molten void
So on Twitter I saw this image and noticed the little sweatdrop. Which, in turn, made me remember about the field emotes. Persona 4 Dancing has something similar to these and I got a hold of those. Does anybody know if these are .DDS images or .GAP files? And if they're .DDS, can you help me find them? I got a lead on Amicitia that they may be hiding withing EN.CPK (ps4R.cpk on the wiki) but I've still yet to find them after digging around folders I figured they'd be in.
wheat copper
...I would love to know this, too. I have never found them, but I'd wager either they're in a PAK/BIN somewhere, or they're actually models (so they wouldn't obviously show up when looking at the usual 2D/pseudo-2D file types) -- or both!
molten void
wouldn't be too surprised, considering that the blush effect on the Dancing models is actually just a GMD
wheat copper
Yeah, they're probably GMD files, imo.
molten void
wheat copper
EN.CPK seems likely, since there are English (/seemingly localized) words in some of the effects (PI PI PI, MEOW, etc.).
molten void
why i believe it's in here, but I could be wrong
yeah, I know it's EN.CPK
from the descriptions in the pics there, this seems like the likely place it would be in
wheat copper
CAMP/ and FONT/ are also particularly likely locations.
carmine turtle
not sure if the ones in the final game are, but ik some of the beta expressions are epls
empty berry
yea i assume this is in effect/event
wheat copper
Okay, yes, I am 90% sure they are the EPLs inside of EFFECT/EVENT/EE000_000.PAK. The indices match up with the icon enum used for creating the emote effects in EVTs, as well.
The GFS files inside of the EPLs don't show up very well as anything when opened in Blender, like I can't get them to animate or anything, but what does show up + the GFS names + the enum matchup makes me very confident in this.
molten void
hm
i figured they would've been images
wheat copper
Most pseudo-2D effects aren't actually images, tbh. Speech bubbles and such are mostly PLGs, a lot of things are GFSs, etc. If it interacts with 3D space it's rarely a DDS or SPD.
Very little of the menu UIs are images.
molten void
🥲
i know ones for p4 were ripped and they were released as image files
But i know, that's like comparing a tomato and a potato
this is from dancing (4 or 3)
wheat copper
Some examples of the files:
EE000_000.PAK > ee500_001.EPL > bikkuri.GFS = !EE000_000.PAK > ee500_002.EPL > bikkuridai.GFS = !!EE000_000.PAK > ee500_003.EPL > hatena.GFS = ?EE000_000.PAK > ee500_004.EPL > hatenabikkuri.GFS = !?
molten void
ahhh
but you said they don't show up well
I was thinking of just doing something like rendering them as still images and making them transparent for renders i make in the future
wheat copper
I know this from the EVT icon enum + romaji GFS filenames, but actually, the animations are working now and confirm it.
Well, if you load up the GFSs you might be able to render something, but it probably won't be super straightforward.
molten void
but I have to extract the models from said epl hmmm
wheat copper
Hopefully it's OK to upload a few to get you started. I'm never sure whether unmodded game files are kosher, but I figure these are minor enough.
molten void
you can always DM me
or just extract them and DM me a zip
wouldn't want you in trouble
wheat copper
Sure, I'll DM you the rest. It'll take me a moment to unpack the remaining ones.
molten void
thanks!!! you're a life saver 🙏
wheat copper
Thanks for motivating me to look again 😁 I was going to need to find these sooner or later, anyway.
molten void
haha you're welcome
i'm ambitious
wheat copper
(For posterity: the files have been delivered 👍)
If anyone else wants to look at the files themselves, I can at least attest to these from my EVT exploration (where the keys/indices match up with the EPL filenames inside the aforementioned PAK):
molten void
I was going to check out 25 but noticed that it was a EPD
checked the other folders and found:
15 (EPL)
18 (EPL)
23 (EPL)
24 (EPL)
25 (EPD)
41 (EPD)
the others are fine, all GFS files
wheat copper
Ah, let me see....
molten void
oops i meant to put that in DMs
I'm multitasking atm lol
giving shape keys to my OCs model and looking at these
wheat copper
Interesting that 15 and 18 do indeed come out empty with BetterEPLInjector. I wonder if they contain an unexpected filetype, or some other way of storing the models...? They should be the phone "PI PI PI" ringing effects.
...Ah-ha! Just needed to use the latest from the repo, not the release, since it's just DDS files. Good, I don't need to bother SecreC 😁
wheat copper
It means that all files inside the EPLs are indeed accessible, but you'd have to build the up-to-date version of the BetterEPLInjector tool locally to get them all.
molten void
ahhhh
wheat copper
New server emote... ⁉️
wheat copper
🤫 ...Sorry, I'm just having fun with these now 😅