charging that shit with low sp only for it to give like 8sp is funny af
#Persona 3 Reload | Master Quest
dreamy orchid
hollow trail
not sure what your definition of inconsequential is because even with heavy phys use I have to manage SP items very carefully
be careful with your choice of words in feedback, I might unironically nerf phys even more
dreamy orchid
ive not used any sp items since getting healing apex tbh
that'd just make it not fun to play
and its not even a phys thing, im just using invigorate lol
dreamy orchid
can discord fucking send messages pls jfc
iron pilot
^
dreamy orchid
well you get invig at like arqa 1 lol
thats for protag tho, party just doesn't have sp issues after yukari gets healing apex
hollow trail
i'm still managing to do everything in 1 night but its in no way "free"
if you're somehow bypassing all my intended design changes that's problematic and needs to be changed
but invigorate is intended, and therefore critical info
crazy
dreamy orchid
well before the main sp challenge was just healing skills but now that yukari gets those basically free i don't really gotta worry about sp much
hollow trail
i disagree
i think support skills still present a management challenge, especially if you take the same team to all gatekeepers + monad
dreamy orchid
i don't really like using magic in normal encounters, not cus of the sp cost, but just because the damage is low lol
hollow trail
i had to use items
dreamy orchid
maybe once people get like 2nd tier i'll feel better using it
hollow trail
the way you're describing your experience feels like you are bypassing every element the mod intended to introduce
which is obviously problematic and concerning to me
dreamy orchid
how so?
you didn't change first tier magic and it has always been weak
so it continues to be weak and thus i continue to not want to use it in yabbashah lol
hollow trail
the feedback is unclear in a way that gives off the impression the game is still excessively easy to you, and none of the changes have any effect
eg: SP is still a non issue and phys is still free win
iron pilot
Jack Frost with Agi
dreamy orchid
well i wouldn't say the game is super easy its just that im not really running out of sp
phys isn't a free win (most phys skills so far also feel unimpactful), but I'd rather use it over magic just cus magic has no good aoe options rn
hollow trail
that's acceptable to me
physical is intended to be a plan B option
strong in bosses due to criticals
iron pilot
You guys are the ones ignoring the clock right
hollow trail
i havent used it
dreamy orchid
yea
iron pilot
I think I would myself
hollow trail
i consider using the clock accepting defeat
dreamy orchid
i used it once in arqa cus i couldn't be bothered leaving since i wanted to just do a tartarus session that day
if i had direct commands i'd also have much better sp economy but like you gotta take what you get with tactics
iron pilot
Fragments are a pretty free resource the entire game so I wouldn't mind getting it
hollow trail
they're "free" but i still like the safety of being able to open any chest at any time
hollow trail
i have 60 rn
dreamy orchid
i like the idea of opening chests with them but then i actually do open a chest and i get abysmal dogshit and so i wonder if its even worth it
the sp def seems like the better deal but only if you're actually running low on sp which you really shouldn't be for most of a visit
clock price really should scale with level/block tbh lol
dreamy orchid
well i think chests should also scale with it lol
its just dumb how free everything is
native garden
Thank your Master Quest for teaching me to- alt + F4
hollow trail
that's just dumbass game design
dreamy orchid
you get given an exponential amount of fragments later on yet prices always stay the same, thus its just rich get richer
hollow trail
you'd be crying about the loot not being worth the fragments
dreamy orchid
well there's nothing else to use fragments on
how would it not be worth when there's nothing to compare it to other than sp (abysmal dogshit)
if it were yen i'd get it cus i could use that on literally anything else, but fragments can only be used in the dark hour so i think you either needing more or them being rarer wouldn't be a problem
could also give reason to spend them on lower floors too ig
celest kindle
~~Thank your Master Quest for teaching me to- *alt + F4*~~
You don't grind enough kid
Where's ur persistence
native garden
Where's ur persistence
spams retry button
iron pilot
You suck ass at playing bro I am ngl
celest kindle
*spams retry button*
That's the spirit
dreamy orchid
you know its over for you when doors has to be real for a sec
celest kindle
Experience makes you stronger
Will say it ain't like I haven't Alt-F4'd after a loss though
But you don't get past a challenge by closing the game
hollow trail
i only alt f4 when i know i want something else
faster than going back to title screen
celest kindle
My saves were usually convenient enough
iron pilot
Never did it except when OBS shits itself
celest kindle
I only really ended up doing that when i was still getting cooked by the Phantom Mages lol
Both because it was frustrating but also because I'd get bored having to reload a save everytime
celest kindle
True information
iron pilot
I think I know the tech for MQ dungeon exploration
iron pilot
It'll be funny if it works
dreamy orchid
the tech (ignoring encounters)
celest kindle
If you're high enough level sure
iron pilot
Something like that but a bit smarter
dreamy orchid
okay i'ma try play a bit til i get bored/tired
dreamy orchid
If you're high enough level sure
xp from anything that isn't a red or gold shadow is pretty minimal
i'm not grinding enemies which i know are giving like 25% of normal xp and are inconsequential compared to bosses 😎
celest kindle
Idk i feel like carrying some extra can help out
dreamy orchid
anyways guys
time to do a boss with haxman and mitsuru in the party
lets see how that goes
celest kindle
Though it's mostly long-term since it's more xp being carried between levels
hollow trail
have you even beaten chariot yet
dreamy orchid
no cus i haven't played in over 2 days
dreamy orchid
real ones will use aigis 💪
hollow trail
...i am
iron pilot
Ideal party for me for that is Yukari Aigis Junpei
dreamy orchid
aigis, junpei, conserve sp hazman
for me tho im just running aigis/junpei/yukari
cus yukari makes dungeon crawling pretty low stakes so i like having her
hollow trail
im just saying
the monads will test you a little
nothing crazy
but they're good
native garden
but they're good
hollow trail
i might just remove invigorate from the game honestly
in 2.0
cuz you can just thebel stall
hollow trail
not at all
iron pilot
That'd be problematic for Takaya
dreamy orchid
thebel grind for 7 twilight fragments
hollow trail
true..
dreamy orchid
boom, stronger than invigorate
native garden
i might just remove invigorate from the game honestly
hollow trail
all this is null and void anyway because 2.0 is gonna have tiredness
celest kindle
all this is null and void anyway because 2.0 is gonna have tiredness
Wait
native garden
What’s next?! Remove regenerate?
hollow trail
i'll make clock free probably
celest kindle
You figured out how to add it??
dreamy orchid
FES REFERENCED
left spear
all this is null and void anyway because 2.0 is gonna have tiredness
should i not keep playing then? i havent played since i got to empereor/empress
hollow trail
You figured out how to add it??
I figured it out before release lol i'm just waiting on popreg opcode support on the compiler
dreamy orchid
2.0 will be when answer drops lol
celest kindle
That's awesome
dreamy orchid
keep playing
left spear
still relatively early
hollow trail
should i not keep playing then? i havent played since i got to empereor/empress
keep playing, 2.0 will probably only come after answer (i don't want to make major changes while people are still playing)
left spear
damnnnnn alr alr
dreamy orchid
alright i don't have jionga because i was a fool and deleted it
native garden
2.0 will be when answer drops lol
Well, new plan. Beat this mod before September 10th
left spear
was just about to boot it up lol
hollow trail
damnnnnn alr alr
Like uhhhh
Blade of Fury (Goemon and Matador) basically makes the 3rd block way easier
it will be nerfed in 2.0
but to not invalidate runs
i'm not patching it
dreamy orchid
i did get this tho which is pretty funny
hollow trail
yeah and tbh i like it
celest kindle
I think she gets Diarahan later as well
hollow trail
yes
dreamy orchid
fits more with athena than palladion imo but either way it fits her better than it does mitsuru
celest kindle
Is it not like that in the OGs?
dreamy orchid
no samerecarm on athena is an L tho
hollow trail
i think
celest kindle
Ah
hollow trail
i can finally go home
iron pilot
No null poison innate
hollow trail
chat should i thug it out
iron pilot
Funnier change
hollow trail
instead of leavingyet
dreamy orchid
bring back null poison on aigis boss
celest kindle
Thug it
dreamy orchid
don't fuck it bro
hollow trail
its just 44 shadows
celest kindle
Save first though
dreamy orchid
thug*
celest kindle
DO IT
iron pilot
Sus
dreamy orchid
oh brother i wanna kms
dreamy orchid
i have no jio skills besides maha-jio
celest kindle
Aw
dreamy orchid
oh well guess i'll go without
dreamy orchid
get takeba to heal you 
hollow trail
she was
at the end
i used all my hp items
for efficiency
well
not all
the mid ones
dreamy orchid
she has like a bajillion sp brother just press media twice
hollow trail
this is not optimal.
dreamy orchid
hp items can be sold for money
sp cannot
therefore, hp items more valuable than yukari sp
hollow trail
istg bro i am gonna fucking remove healing apex
dreamy orchid
media is like, 2 sp
hollow trail
😡
dreamy orchid
don't its fun
not as if there's anything else you could give her lmfaooooooo
removing healing apex is also conceding that yukari is op 😈
hollow trail
nah its just a middle finger to you in specific
you WILL concede to my item management design
/j
its gonna be so funny when i use these
iron pilot
All gonna go to Chernobog soz mate
hollow trail
actually
good point
i wanted to max out teammates but i might dump them on Kaguya just for funnies
(i like Kaguya)
celest kindle
I will wear the adidas shoes and tracksuit to support my goat
Kazushi Fan?
celest kindle
How much damage did your magic do
iron pilot
Yeah when I was more attentive to that I found that to be a problem
celest kindle
MonadMax
iron pilot
You can trade for those specific rocks but
That happens a block later when they're available
iron pilot
Broke af frfr on god
hollow trail
nah i can craft anything i want
thinking which base model i dupe rn
probably nihil ore
ik i want 4 unbreakable cages
AYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dreamy orchid
post boss fight trauma
i won't lie i brought aki so he could hit an elec weakness and he genuinely didn't hit it once
hollow trail
what was this about sp being free with healing apex
dreamy orchid
he just spammed diarama so yukari would've been a much better pick
well if i brought yukari it'd be free!
but i didn't and look where that got me!
ig bdjk is right, this guy sucks
hollow trail
skill issue
dreamy orchid
he also did mazio over his theurgia at one point which was funny
iron pilot
Using Akihiko is a grief at this stage frfr
dreamy orchid
fast charge my ass
i even used sylphid aura for him to charge it faster and he didn't fucking use it!
dreamy orchid
aigis used orgia mode and he didn't use his until the end lol
nah he sucks im sorry
gigantic fist might make him pog tho
hollow trail
no cuz like
dreamy orchid
but rn he's terrible damage and an sp waster
hollow trail
why are you all grieving over his supposedly bad performance and for me he was doing just fucking great
dreamy orchid
meovv a base game akihiko truther?
hollow trail
no bro base game aki is dogshit but he's already at the MQ upgrade stage in Yabbashah
wdym bro
that auto tarukaja doesnt fuck around
dreamy orchid
idk he performs really poorly at damage compared to junpei and aigis and even mitsuru/yukari until he gets jionga, he's reliant on buffs which you don't have aoe for yet and he wastes sp a bunch on tactics, especially cus diarama is expensive af now
iron pilot
I think I'd feel auto tarukaja's effect if I were doing DC
But you guys doing tactics
dreamy orchid
auto-tarukaja is also like several levels ahead of where i'm at rn
he's only 28 rn meaning he's literally base game
dreamy orchid
imo he'll kinda suck until gigantic fist even if auto-tarukaja will help him at least compete
iron pilot
Strike boost aigis will be better trust
dreamy orchid
yea
hollow trail
ok
dreamy orchid
i hate this little twerp
iron pilot
Use athlete meal
hollow trail
are there aoe amronions
dreamy orchid
he can threat no tho cus mazio and sukukaja are gonna be leaving soon
iron pilot
Wdym you can keep hanging out with Akihiko!!!
hollow trail
yes? and he gives heat riser? it's also a waste of a night slot?
have you forgotten i'm doing an optimized stat/SL run on top of MQ
dreamy orchid
currently i have 6 matarukaja items, if i chose to plant buff potato sprout with aigis (i didn't cus no item run) then i'd have like 9 pretty sure
hollow trail
oh ayo
iron pilot
Orthrus will cook for me
dreamy orchid
also yea aki downgrades into heat riser after you finish his shit
iron pilot
I actually like heat riser in the mod in cases
hollow trail
this is better than marakushit
i need to get herbs in december tho
spam that shit
oh wait
tactics
its shit
nvm
dreamy orchid
think im good on the hp item front
oh i have a bead and a soma too? since when bruh
dreamy orchid
are you kidding me
i just got scammed
2 fragments for a fucking heat riser item
get yo ass outta here with that dogshit
hollow trail
subjective 
wait im stupid
why didnt i fuse in tartarus
i had lovers
i need to get used to that
dreamy orchid
oh we chilling for sp rn
dreamy orchid
how the fuck you got 52 mad bulls bruh who does that
dreamy orchid
insane person
dreamy orchid
for me its just more loading screens and wasting my precious yen 😔
oh i forgot the material shit was a thing
i should do that ig
i could do something hilarious rn
dreamy orchid
but im not gonna cus its lame
dreamy orchid
what does kaguya have here
hollow trail
nothing special
i just like her
light magic and mediarama
i think?
let me check
oh wait
I'M 1 LEVEL BELOW REQUIREMENT
back to grind
wait can i even
yes
i can
red shadow grind time
iron pilot
I'd rather save the building strats on endgame
iron pilot
Oni will rise from the dead
dreamy orchid
meovv did you change some tactics shit
why is junpei spamming assault dive when torrent shot can hit the weakness lol
is he being psyopped cus the base power of assault dive is higher?
hollow trail
this has always been the case
and i noticed today too
i do not think it is fixable
dreamy orchid
absolute tactics moment
hollow trail
unless you want him to use weaknesses when an aoe would've been better
hollow trail
or use weaknesses on an enemy that is already downed when critting someone else would've been better
(he'd do this too)
hollow trail
junpei is just fucked
hollow trail
no way to check if they're already downed or not?
ig there is
i'll try some stuff tomorrow but its a very low priority issue rn
pierce weakness is rare
dreamy orchid
ah
dreamy orchid
sure hope this doesn't fuck up tactics
dreamy orchid
nah maragi is horrid
dreamy orchid
it has zero use case lol
iron pilot
I'd use maragi only if it's DC
dreamy orchid
unless there's some tactics bullshit where he might use it
dreamy orchid
why would it ever be preferable to agirao tho
hollow trail
i never said that
hollow trail
he will likely not use agilao
if there are more than 1 enemy
because he will see phys as better
that's just how p3r works
dreamy orchid
i think maragi has more opportunities to throw tho tbh
hollow trail
i'm sorry but you are incorrect
dreamy orchid
he is yet to even use it on tactics yet tho so idk
ive genuinely not seen him use it yet
hollow trail
he was generating the majority of the AoAs in this block when i got to grinding
there are encounters entirely weak to fire
hollow trail
why are you leaving dogshit phys skills??????
iron pilot
guys I might be able to play tonight
dreamy orchid
why are you leaving dogshit phys skills??????
nothing to replace them with rn
iron pilot
I'll get to arqa II before vengeance
dreamy orchid
he never uses it so it has no way to fuck up ai
oh actually meovv idea
could you make junpei prioritise torrent shot over assault dive like you did with aigis and shinji's aoes or would that require you to like tierlist every single junpei phys skill lol
iron pilot
at some point Junpei will definitely prioritize AoEs when Blade of Fury and Deathbound comes in
hollow trail
"if torrent shot available and (every skill that is better) isnt, always torrent shot (if not resisted)"
he wont
dreamy orchid
he wont
that'd be nice tbh lol
wrong reply
meant to reply to the torrent shot thing
hollow trail
this is what i did for aigis
dreamy orchid
just cus its pretty monumentally better than assault dive
hollow trail
yeah i know
dreamy orchid
i got the floor with a bunch of red shadows
and its all those easy af jotuns
free levels !!!
left spear
do you just have to be lucky on the emperor/empress fight after fuuka runs out of sp
im getting fucked over so hard
iron pilot
it's a set pattern on what they shift to
left spear
ig ill just write it down 😭
hollow trail
its not set
it's random, but never repeats twice in a row
empress will always be slash->pierce->slash->pierce, because it's her only weaknesses
but emperor is elec, fire, and light/dark (both)
so empress you can always figure out instantly
and emperor is basically just whack it with everything you've got
dreamy orchid
hmm
hollow trail
tldr scan empress only once
dreamy orchid
although something that might be problematic
aigis prioritising arrow rain on downed enemy over cruel attack
hollow trail
you can kill them both before fuuka runs out of you do that
left spear
oh damn so everytime i used magic on empress i was wasting a turn lmao
dreamy orchid
idk if thats mathematically better or not
hollow trail
aigis prioritising arrow rain on downed enemy over cruel attack
she will not
celest kindle
Yeah you basically just need to be stingy with Fuuka's sp lol
dreamy orchid
she just did for me
hollow trail
oh damn so everytime i used magic on empress i was wasting a turn lmao
its like that in vanilla game too
celest kindle
Empress will never Strike and never repeats like Meovv said so she's guessable
celest kindle
Yeah
celest kindle
I think in Vanilla they just alternated between full phys weakness and mag weakness right?
celest kindle
Huh i guess i misremembered then
dreamy orchid
no in p3f they alternate between different shit but turn 1 one is weak to all phys and one is weak to all magic iirc
iron pilot
they initially have full phys weak and mag weak respectively
but they just become random after that
hollow trail
no in p3f they alternate between different shit but turn 1 one is weak to all ph...
guess i always killed it before they alternate
iron pilot
assuming you allowed them to shift
dreamy orchid
maybe it was just a flub on my end but she def just spammed arrow rain over it despite the enemy being dizzy
hamaon kinda based
dreamy orchid
nah remove makouha
hollow trail
no shit thats what i said
dreamy orchid
and skill card on kouga
hollow trail
remove light boost for dekunda, making makouha replaceable with hamaon
dreamy orchid
tho damaging light and dark are kinda shit here cus of the nerf
so instakill patriots win
hollow trail
is it worth rolling until all stats are yellow, or do stats get more points if only a few are yellow
hollow trail
guess i'll fuse with all yellow
dreamy orchid
is it worth rolling until all stats are yellow, or do stats get more points if o...
you get more if fewer are yellow
dreamy orchid
you get +3 to random stats every level up
basically just keep rerolling until the stat you don't want is white
hollow trail
this would be optimal then
well yes
but the odds are awful
i keep getting all 5
yeah fuck it
doing all except str
iron pilot
me who rerolls for 3 and below anyways
native garden
the odds are like 0.0000000001%
I’m just that goooooood
iron pilot
the odds are like 0.0000000001%
I lived in OG P5 era it's fine
native garden
I lived in OG P5 era it's fine
iron pilot
I'm the guy that rolled a 7/8 Telos remember?
hollow trail
gg
celest kindle
hollow trail
i mean
left spear
we will be benching 😔
celest kindle
Hadn't shared this one cuz Discord was dying when it was uploading lol
hollow trail
god dont do that
celest kindle
Oh it still is
hollow trail
he'll catch up
left spear
isn't mitsuru better with magic being better than phys
hollow trail
no
magic has higher base power than phys, but junpei's strength is still stupid
and critrates
and uh
multi hit phys is also good
and aoe phys
left spear
damnn ill just have to lug him around until he catches up then
dreamy orchid
we will be benching 😔
don't bench the mvp
hollow trail
literally take him to a gold hand or a gatekeeper and he'll be up to speed
celest kindle
Junpei also doesn't miss a ton now with Vacuum Slash thanks to shitty acc lol
dreamy orchid
lug him around (1 tartarus guardian you'll want to bring him for anyways)
dreamy orchid
bench akihiko until you're level 30 then use the clock to catch him up
dreamy orchid
dlc persona headass
hollow trail
zorro and goemon are the only phantom thieves with any longevity
hollow trail
in early game
hollow trail
dlc persona headass
i'm entitled to finally being able to enjoy them after spending hours rebalancing
dreamy orchid
but goemon got high af str
hollow trail
dont diss my kaguya i will slap you
dreamy orchid
shes not p5!
hollow trail
idgaf
iron pilot
Kaguya technically outclasses 4th tier magic in vanilla
dreamy orchid
WHY DOES HE ONLY LEARN 2 SKILLS
dreamy orchid
just put vacuum slash or zan-ei on there idk bruh
hollow trail
just put vacuum slash or zan-ei on there idk bruh
?
dreamy orchid
neuro-slash
celest kindle
Bufudyne
dreamy orchid
i meant for his skill progression
dreamy orchid
blade of fury is obviously dumb but 2 skills is cringe
hollow trail
no need to cry over filler
dreamy orchid
nah he sucks without the blade of fury
iron pilot
Everyone knows Yusuke is a mage
dreamy orchid
we will be using matador instead
hollow trail
throwing
dreamy orchid
phantom thieves aren't fun
hollow trail
your mother
dreamy orchid
p5 sucks i don't wanna be reminded of it
i wanna use izanagi to remind myself of a better game
hollow trail
get to grinding
hollow trail
run invalid
hollow trail
you suck
dreamy orchid
the stats are crazy tho
hollow trail
put god's hand on him mf
iron pilot
you can mutate
hollow trail
just mutate
hollow trail
GET TO GOEMONNING
dreamy orchid
i had it maxxed by now on my blind playthrough
wait bruh
why don't you just give goemon sukukaja
he literally has it in p5
dreamy orchid
nah koro sucks
iron pilot
matarukaja
dreamy orchid
i want matarukaja
hollow trail
die
dreamy orchid
i already got revolution!
iron pilot
well Jikokuten also has Revolution
dreamy orchid
I HAVE TO MANUAL LEVEL MATADOR UP 3 LEVELS FOR THIS SHIT??
nah fuck this bro im just gonna getsu-ei
hollow trail
?
iron pilot
I won't need Blade of Fury for this bit ngl mate
hollow trail
Goemon's Counterstrike has been changed to Counter.
Goemon no longer learns Shift Boost and Mabufula.
hollow trail
see
heres the thing
because i already fused him
and played like 20 more hours
i am not updating it
so my run is not invalidated
dreamy orchid
goemon it is then
wait actually
i'll fuse goemon into jikokuten (better persona)
hollow trail
go right ahead
dreamy orchid
mainly just cus i want revolution on it too
but i couldn't inherit that from power cus not enough slots
oh and slash boost
bro
do i skill change pierce boost
iron pilot
Power to Orthrus was my fusion path last time iirc
dreamy orchid
y/n
iron pilot
do it
hollow trail
yes then reload if bad
dreamy orchid
FUCK YOU BITCH
iron pilot
lmao
dreamy orchid
FATAL END
iron pilot
L
dreamy orchid
IM KILLING MYSELF
hollow trail
bro i had aigis on base equips this whole time LOLLLLLL
no accessory
im so goated
iron pilot
I'm the goat of mutations (got auto rebellion at 10s)
dreamy orchid
rn aigis only has +1 str accessory for me
oh nevermind
i put mega master band on aigis
epic +3 all lmao
the ma is literally wasted but its kosher
iron pilot
it boosts theurgia
hollow trail
haxman is literally mvp in chariot/justice
fight is literally stalemating without him
this fight feels really really good
rip i died at the end
good tho
cuz i wanna record
this was really fun
iron pilot
I'll do better using Yukari trust
hollow trail
that was way more fun than it had any right being
tactics griefed a bit but nothing serious
iron pilot
it's a decent fight in vanilla tbf
hollow trail
yeah it was
but here there was a lot of buff and sp management
also theurgia meter management
dreamy orchid
nice
dreamy orchid
so far i think my fav was probably emperor/empress
hollow trail
really? that's the one i was most concerned about being shit
dreamy orchid
lovers was good too but tactics are kinda fucky there
its def the easiest but i think its fun
i like how the two of them synergise with each other
hollow trail
that distress critfishing
anyway kaguya carried
total mid victory
i used an attack mirror cuz i was getting sick of their shit
i also noticed theurgia meters charge when the tank does something
which i think is unique to this fight
they charge very little tho
junpei was abysmal dogshit here
kept doing vacuum slash
aigis was also doing swift strike but at least that was fine
and she critted more than him
she fucking destroyed justice
oh right also
i did revolution strat
because the tank separating removes all its buffs
revolution is good here
native garden
revolution is good here
But you would give chariot and Justice a chance to crit on you tho
dreamy orchid
offense is goated tho
crits means more damage and more theurgia charge
getting knocked down also means more theurgia charge 😈
but yea vacuum slash seems a lil mid here
so i might honestly do trashman, aigis and yukari
if tank were freezable i might bring mitsuru just because i find it funny
but its not
hollow trail
But you would give chariot and Justice a chance to crit on you tho
no
because of what i said
revolution
buffs crit on party
and tank
next up is junpei
he theurgies
tank separates
party has buff
they do not
native garden
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[Ok, I believe you]
hollow trail
so i might honestly do trashman, aigis and yukari
akihiko is the most valuable party member in the fight
don't sully his name
junpei was literally replaceable here
i'd have taken mitsuru for rakunda botting and i am not kidding
in direct commands sure
but in tactics he was ass
native garden
you should
Welll I need to S E E it to B E L I E V E it
iron pilot
Akihiko is mid (I know what I'm gonna do)
native garden
Akihiko is mid (I know what I'm gonna do)
Let Aki cook
iron pilot
nah I'm not letting mid cook garbage
dreamy orchid
i gotta do the monad thing so haxboy can get elec boost
he got strike boost gloves which is lit tho
iron pilot
I like how people say Akihiko is good if you get that and buff amp early in vanilla
I love lying in the internet so much bro
native garden
https://youtu.be/g6tZKsXgonQ
Wait, ||why does the Tank form has regen 1?||
iron pilot
probably a deterrent for my break strats
hollow trail
to punish stalling while tank is active mostly
tank pattern is very predictable so you could probably stall and win that way
native garden
to punish stalling while tank is active mostly
It sounds more like a DPS check to me but alright. At least it’s not regen 2 or 3
||Also bloody Nora, the tank knows POWER CHARGE?!||
dreamy orchid
oh i fucked up my schedule bruh
i didn't get buff amp for chariot fight
only buff boost
think i prioritised aigis over aki at one point
dreamy orchid
i love tactics!!
Yukari using her bow against resist pierce rather than reviving Akihiko despite being on Heal/Support
dreamy orchid
just had the worst run ever
i "won" the fight but i don't feel like i did lmao
everything was perfect, lined up the perfect kill shot for aki
then that idiot just decided to use sonic punch over his theurgia
so the fight lasted 2 minutes longer than it should've and he got no xp cus his ass died
dreamy orchid
okay i refought it
everyone lived but i ended with fucking 3sp left lmao
i feel like if i had buff amp this would've gone a lot smoother
matarukaja would've also helped a lot lol
bruh the fight was 20 mins for me with tactics/no items
kinda had some bad rng too but still
long fight
dreamy orchid
https://youtu.be/g6tZKsXgonQ
wait you had mediarama for this? lmao
i forgot kaguya had it
i was thinking of getting sarasvati for it, but she's Priestess so it'd require grinding for me cus I don't have Fuuka yet
iron pilot
https://youtu.be/g6tZKsXgonQ
lmao Akihiko griefed at the end
lmaooooo
funniest shit ever
dreamy orchid
i had the same shit happen bro
except when i had it happen, it ended in one of them being resurrected and the fight prolonging several minutes
iron pilot
lmaoooo
native garden
Yukari using her bow against resist pierce rather than reviving Akihiko despite ...
Tactics update 4 when?
hollow trail
It sounds more like a DPS check to me but alright. At least it’s not regen 2 or ...
? are you talking out of your ass
do you know what dps check means
the tank can only be separated by theurgy, there's no "dps checking" being done
even if the theurgy is 1 dmg it still splits it
regeneration on the tank is a punish for not storing theurgia or charging it fast enough
the longer you take the more hp it regains
there's no "dps" to be had because the tank resists everything and takes like 1 damage from everything
also yes, revolution was worth
i had full defenses up
getting knocked down charges theurgy faster
and aigis nuked them with crits
which you cropped out
native garden
? are you talking out of your ass
Considering how I woke up to loud lawn mowers then, maybe but not entirely
iron pilot
give Akihiko charge (it charges theurgia faster)
Make Yukari drain herself frame one (it charges theurgia faster)
hollow trail
take koromaru just for auto masukunda (it charges mitsuru faster)
iron pilot
honestly I kinda get the logic of Yukari getting more theurgia the more SP drained she is
but in practice, no one will actually hit that condition
native garden
but in practice, no one will actually hit that condition
Me after fighting Lovers blind in this mod:
native garden
Can Master Quest modify the title screen logo to say “Persona 3 Reload: Master Quest” instead of just saying Persona 3 Reload?
dreamy orchid
take koromaru just for auto masukunda (it charges mitsuru faster)
erm it actually charges everyone faster
hollow trail
Can Master Quest modify the title screen logo to say “Persona 3 Reload: Master Q...
technically
its not very worth tho i dont think
celest kindle
You'd also need to implement it across languages which i think wouldn't be too hard but it could be time consuming
dreamy orchid
can you make it say persona 3 kitty cat edition
iron pilot
erm it actually charges everyone faster
You can say the same for any action technically
But debuffs with Mitsuru boosts her more than average
native garden
its not very worth tho i dont think
Sadge. I tend to forget if I have the mod installed sometimes since I’ve never seen a gameplay overhaul mod that would leave the title screen logo unchanged
native garden
can you make it say persona 3 kitty cat edition
iron pilot
In theory Akihiko and Mitsuru's conditions are the same but between buffs and debuffs
dreamy orchid
But debuffs with Mitsuru boosts her more than average
its not actually that big of a boost tho lol
its 8% vs 4%
iron pilot
But in practice, Akihiko gets way more of a kick out of it because charges counting
I think Mitsuru's should have had that charge clause too
Ngl
dreamy orchid
mitsuru's charge rate is basically the same as aki's except she only gets 8% from debuffs while he gets fucking 15% from buffs
the bias is crazy
they really hated her when making this game lmao
dreamy orchid
he's decent damage but its not got much practical use in base game because of how the balance is and because like the one fight he would be good in resists strike
i think he's good for chariot/justice tho especially in a more casual setting
iron pilot
He sucks ass there if you time things right, he does too much damage in a way that's detrimental
Kinda hilarious
I don't think replacing Aigis with him helps either
dreamy orchid
Akihiko literally too good at dealing damage for bdjk to use him
i think he's way better than aigis there ngl. her only thing she has over him is that she's tankier but like with buff amp rakukaja i think he'd still tank very well
iron pilot
Nah he sucks ass, literally had to save the run with a crit in order to catch up
dreamy orchid
i did tactics tho so maybe arrow rain spam on aigis would be better
nah for me the issue tended to be like
not dealing enough damage to chariot
and he's the best magic user in the party
i had him and yukari lazering chariot while orgia mode aigis just spammed crits with revolution
though in base game you can just do phys even through the resistance which is hilarious
iron pilot
I'm talking vanilla here
Dunno MQ ver of this fight, Meovv wasn't done with the full moon bosses while I was doing the playthrough
dreamy orchid
ah
in vanilla he might be worse idk i didn't use him
i think i did like
yukari/mitsuru/aigis lol
native garden
Don’t worry, Aki is useful in master quest
dreamy orchid
it was horrible comp but i wanted to level up mitsuru cus she was underleveled
native garden
yukari/mitsuru/aigis lol
Damnit, I used Aigis,Junpei, and Aki iirc
dreamy orchid
Don’t worry, Aki is useful in master quest
eh
iron pilot
Don’t worry, Aki is useful in master quest
Lmfaoooo
dreamy orchid
auto-tarukaja has def helped him but so far he's still pretty underwhelming
native garden
I forgot to add the word still but yea
iron pilot
I know how it'll go, only gonna be that way after Shinjiro dies
dreamy orchid
nah he might be good for yabbashah II
dreamy orchid
i'll probs take him for hermit tbh
iron pilot
I won't
dreamy orchid
mitsuru gang?
iron pilot
Repel strats is exactly the same there pretty sure
native garden
i'll probs take him for hermit tbh
I don’t think there’s a reason why you would bench him for Hermit
iron pilot
He actively fucks up repel strats
native garden
Like he RESISTS elec and hermit used…elec
dreamy orchid
how does he fuck up repel strat
iron pilot
Just don't get hit?
dreamy orchid
I don’t think there’s a reason why you would bench him for Hermit
in base game his damage is not really high enough comparitively to want to bring him
native garden
Just don't get hit?
dreamy orchid
you could maybe do aki/shinji/koro for full dps comp but then you gotta use rakunda and healing items instead of having a dedicated user for either
native garden
in base game his damage is not really high enough comparitively to want to bring...
But the tarunda tho. You can’t sleep on that
dreamy orchid
tarunda is useless in hermit
native garden
you could maybe do aki/shinji/koro for full dps comp but then you gotta use raku...
I did something like that in vanilla but replace Koro with Ken
dreamy orchid
cus hermit will never get to attack if you're doing enough damage and if you're repelling then you actively don't want tarunda on it
iron pilot
how does he fuck up repel strat
elec break persona only nulls elec in level without skill cards
Doesn't allow protag to take advantage of auto tarukaja at start of battle since he's doing rakunda duty first turn
The first turn of hermit is dekaja before charging up so matarukaja buffs gets dispelled (equipped him with auto tarukaja equip)
If you have boost + amp getsu ei at this stage, a crit first turn will make the hermit charge immediately
hollow trail
i recommend not talking about bosses you havent even played
dreamy orchid
im talking about vanilla here
hollow trail
ok
dreamy orchid
mq version is buffed in damage and you can't nuke with getsu-ei anymore so aki might be better on that basis
shit theurgia tho 😔
native garden
i recommend not talking about bosses you havent even played
Can we talk about suitable BGM replacements for the full moon shadows? Like replacing master of shadow with the blue falcon theme from shadow the hedgehog for chariot and Justice?
iron pilot
That first point means my first repel is only 3 dudes instead of 4 so that fucks me up
iron pilot
Can we talk about suitable BGM replacements for the full moon shadows? Like repl...
Do it yourself
dreamy orchid
>elec break persona only nulls elec in level without skill cards
>Doesn't allow ...
ah
you could just have someone else use rakunda item tbf but ig its fair
native garden
Do it yourself
Already half way there
iron pilot
That thing isn't all that available at that stage iirc
It'll be sold next month I think? Forgor
And I'd need 3
Btw did Hermit get regens
Will kill afk strat if I have the right idea (good)
hollow trail
i forgor
iron pilot
Oh yeah you can argue for fusing elec break into mothman and stuff to fix the problem but
I'm not gonna baby a shitass party member for no gain
dreamy orchid
nice
dreamy orchid
@hollow trail noticed a small typo in the base model duplication menu. This should say "Generic" but it says "Genetic"
hollow trail
that makes sense
i've been reading it as genetic this whole time
low priority issue
will fix whenever next update is ig
celest kindle
i've been reading it as genetic this whole time
Surprised you never batted an eye 😭
dreamy orchid
but i at least have buff amp and phys boost now
ashen pulsar
wholesome 100
hollow trail
Surprised you never batted an eye 😭
i always associated it with aigis so genetic made sense
dreamy orchid
i gotta grind tf out in tartar sauce tho
i can buy phys booster accessories now but i accidentally wasted my black quarts on ice boost for mitsuru lol
will probs just get pierce for aigis and strike for shinji tho, junpei can get a slash one if i have enough but he is low priority rn
celest kindle
...yes?
I'm gonna assume the association with Aigis is an Arena thing then
Haven't played that so wouldn't know
hollow trail
oh yeah right hermit is shockable with break
i didnt intend it but its there
im leaving it in
not worth doing but cool if it happens
dreamy orchid
this shit crazy
native garden
this shit crazy
So many good cards to choose to from 
native garden
this shit crazy
Btw, do you plan on recording all of the monad bosses in Master Quest?
dreamy orchid
ive been doing so
