the heavily nerfed mq phys?
#Persona 3 Reload | Master Quest
hollow trail
not even, then
ashen pulsar
if it's filling meter then it doesn't matter if it's doing "low" damage, even if i personally disagree on this front, it still does a lot, just obviously not as much as a bdjk full mastery save vs phases with weaknesses
dreamy orchid
Everyone also gains more theurgia charge when at lower HP, so Bloody Charge highkey optimal
you gain more charge for being at below half sp too
ashen pulsar
ken reference
hollow trail
dreamy orchid
well ken gets a lot more than everyone else for it
ashen pulsar
wait so do the party member traits do nothing it's just set in the table?
hollow trail
i do mind you doing 2 9999 killshots to the final boss
dreamy orchid
wait so do the party member traits do nothing it's just set in the table?
yea lol
hollow trail
yea
ashen pulsar
that's funny
dreamy orchid
they're not actual traits they are just flavor text
ashen pulsar
that's something i would do
hollow trail
that is technically the correct way to code it
dreamy orchid
the file for the description is literally called TheurgiaFlavorText.uasset or some shit lol
but yea its all just preset in the table
and there is another table for boss encounters where its the exact same values, just doubled
so you arbitrarily charge twice as fast on bosses
ashen pulsar
sexo
hollow trail
it's not arbitrary
it's the same thing as the fortune, but forced because you cannot get fortunes on those days
it's good design tbh
dreamy orchid
mc can get 20% charge per turn just from skills alone while doing minimum effort, even more if you're actively buffing/debuffing or at low sp
dreamy orchid
it's the same thing as the fortune, but forced because you cannot get fortunes o...
nope
the fortune is a lot lower
hollow trail
ok give me the values then and i will immediately copypaste them to the boss table
ashen pulsar
isn't fortune 1.3
hollow trail
i do think it'll make some gatekeepers in yabbashah a fucking pain in the cock to beat though
and junpei will be dogshit
but i'll do it
ashen pulsar
cock??
dreamy orchid
ashen pulsar
hollow trail
why does mc charge from everything that is so funny
ashen pulsar
doesn't charge from analyze!!
dreamy orchid
shinji gets 10% for using any phys skill when aigis gets 12% despite that being her main condition
shinji arbitrarily charges like twice as fast as everyone else lmao
hollow trail
im ok with that
dreamy orchid
he is actual haxman
hollow trail
i will defend excessively OP shinjiro till the death of me
it's thematic
and not a huge deal
just 1 month
hollow trail
lol
dreamy orchid
i like him being op but not like making the game actual baby mode op
he should be better than the others but not like comically so
ashen pulsar
junpei reference
hollow trail
i disagree but it's not a balancing issue, it's a subjective plot opinion
dreamy orchid
do you think he landed a crit on ken's mom
hollow trail
having crazy powertrips in games is fine
doesnt really ruin it if the game goes back to being balanced after he's dead
ashen pulsar
do you think he landed a crit on ken's mom
37%, it's possible
ashen pulsar
yeah
dreamy orchid
dark akechi should've been comically broken
hollow trail
give him the boss stats
dreamy orchid
Nah bro
give him magic mastery, tyrant's mind, magic ability and like exclusive shit nobody else gets
ashen pulsar
if prince akechi was oddly op despite being a "new" persona user that would've been a way more thematic tell than the fucking pancake shit
dreamy orchid
make him undeniably number 1
ashen pulsar
elly is
hollow trail
at this point im gonna have to replay the entire game every time i make an update
dreamy orchid
Oh wait
hollow trail
this is so destructive lol
dreamy orchid
Tatsuya is the OP character in EP
hollow trail
the game has been balanced in isolation but no one's actually tried a start to end run
dreamy orchid
I like how P4's endgame character is terrible meanwhile the endgame character in every other game is pretty goated
hollow trail
i'll consider it a win if i do
hollow trail
dreamy orchid
when are we getting the meovv p5 mod to make akechi busted
hollow trail
lol
hollow trail
ok here's what i think i should do then
- Reduce Jin's HP to 12000
- Make Fuuka give you a Cookie before Takaya and Nyx if you don't have one
- Reduce Nyx (Fool)'s HP by half?
- Increase Debilitating Sutra price to 5x gem
- Reduce Death phase HP?
- Remove Scarlet Havoc from Punish
- Lower boss Theurgia charge rates to 1.3x (Fortune Reading rates)
hollow trail
i'd buff him
ashen pulsar
make eccentric temper a 1% chance to do 45x damage
dreamy orchid
make morgana's salvation cost 120 sp, give him no buffs besides dynes being better
hollow trail
ok here's what i think i should do then
* Reduce Jin's HP to 12000
* Make Fuuka...
me not caring abt p5
dreamy orchid
i think jin is the main problem
i watched the bdjk video and it was an actual slog lmao
dreamy orchid
mfs who didn't complete Star SL:
hollow trail
what are mfs who didnt complete star sl doing playing mq
ashen pulsar
me
hollow trail
returning players should know
dreamy orchid
master quest no social link run
hollow trail
bdjk proves its possible tho
dreamy orchid
possible, but kinda boring
jin should probably be a bit more aggressive after the stim is my takeaway
like he should keep using stronger skills rather than just reverting to his old pattern after the first megidolaon and vorpal blade
you can kind of tell the fight was originally designed with the idea he'd die right after using those
hollow trail
well yeah thats still really my intention
nerf his hp so you can do just that
4-theurgy his ass at the end
12000 would do it
dreamy orchid
i guess but i think he should also be more aggressive regardless for if you fuck up at killing him
dreamy orchid
though granted idk how threatening his normal pattern is cus bdjk went yukari only
dreamy orchid
i suppose so
hollow trail
still thinking abt death phase
scarlet havoc is not all that crazy anymore
i can remove from punish
and the 20k hp
i mean it seems fine
but maybe 15k
idk
iron pilot
Charging because I have shift boost shoes on him, he's mostly support in the fight so if Junpei crits, I'll usually pass to him
Well I think that'd be how players would usually go for
The cookie was mostly for me to last the death phase, I could optimize it to have something else other than Houo with invigs. But since that one's basically a ready made healer that can do magic null, I'd figure that'll be everyone's targets.
Good idea
I was throwing buffs intentionally, for stacking purposes. And to charge my theurgia to start without buffing again much later into the fight (I know I'll get Dekaja'd at Hermit).
I didn't have elec, actually. Even still, theurgia one shots with setup so lol
Yeah Hermit was basically the bit where I fucked up. That AoE elec is too strong imo (one shots full HP Mitsuru with Rakukaja)
The Morning Star is fine, that's also why I think the repel strat's fine. It needs intimate knowledge of the AI to work
I think I spammed too much items, Aigis and Koro had almost full SP at the end. I suspect that's fine, honestly.
That's mostly on setup, I had the mirrors so I'll use it. Maybe not everyone would so that's fine imo.
Nah, King and I needed Mastery for that to work that hard. It'll do about as much damage as Akihiko would with Electric Onslaught without it. Besides, I didn't do armageddon unlike the intended way. Then again, Trickster finally useful???
That's fine, it was after an entire set of the death phase AI. Givinf a players a breather is alright after all of those 15 turns.
hollow trail
Charging because I have shift boost shoes on him, he's mostly support in the fig...
The ideas I think I will implement then are:
Reduce Jin's HP to 12000
Make Fuuka give you a Cookie before Takaya and Nyx if you don't have one
Reduce Nyx (Fool)'s HP to 750
Increase Debilitating Sutra price to 7x gem
Remove Scarlet Havoc from Punish
Add Diarahan to the Punish (Grim Transcendence + Marakukaja + Heat Riser + Diarahan + Severe 1 More Chain + Night Queen)
Make the punish happen always instead of only once
Lower boss Theurgia charge rates to 1.3x (The rates you'd have if you had taken fortune reading)
hollow trail
yeah apparently it's 2x
iron pilot
Lmao
hollow trail
i thought it was less
hollow trail
wdym
hollow trail
but king/scarlet is fine for nyx if it has 20k hp no?
i'm thinking of doing diarahan on punish for armageddon so you're forced to use it to end the fight and cant just do it twice
ashen pulsar
liz does both
iron pilot
Nah OG Liz but after the first heal
hollow trail
i know
i am saying nyx would not heal on half
but would on armageddon
not spamming it
but as a response only
iron pilot
I wouldn't mind it
That's true, anyone would Armageddon twice if they know there's no punish
hollow trail
i need to make sure the command actually works the way i think it does
otherwise nyx would spam diarahan every turn
need to test
iron pilot
I think you can cannibalize Liz' AI
hollow trail
well
liz checks for the skill being used
but does it do just that
or does it set a flag
where if the flag is true it will always diarahan + megi
big difference
iron pilot
I'm not sure, all I know is she innately punishes Armageddon use if used prematurely
hollow trail
actually
im gonna troll
im gonna make it do the old punish
then do the "laughs audaciously"
then diarahan
all in one go
hollow trail
if ( AI_CHK_ENUSESKIL( 266 ) ) //Used Armageddon and did not kill Nyx
{
AI_SET_ENID_MAXACTTURN( var2, 6 );
if ( AI_GET_ENID_ACTTURNCOUNT( var2 ) == 5 )
{
AI_ACT_SKILL( 157 ); //Final action, Diarahan
AI_TAR_MINE();
AI_SET_ENID_MAXACTTURN( var2, 1 );
return;
}
else if ( AI_GET_ENID_ACTTURNCOUNT( var2 ) == 4 )
{
AI_ACT_WAIT2( 515 ); //Fifth action, laugh in player's face
return;
}
else if ( AI_GET_ENID_ACTTURNCOUNT( var2 ) == 3 )
{
severeAnubing(); //Fourth Action, target weaknesses of all party members one by one with Severe tier skills and finish with Night Queen
AI_SET_GLOBAL( 2, 1 );
return;
}
else if ( AI_GET_ENID_ACTTURNCOUNT( var2 ) == 2 )
{
AI_ACT_SKILL( 188 ); //Third Action, Buff all Stats
AI_TAR_MINE();
return;
}
else if ( AI_GET_ENID_ACTTURNCOUNT( var2 ) == 1 )
{
AI_ACT_SKILL( 196 ); //Second Action, Debuff Defense
AI_TAR_RND();
return;
}
else
{
AI_ACT_SKILL( 379 ); //First Action, activate Grim Transcendence, gain 3 turns (technically 6 but whatever)
AI_TAR_MINE();
return;
}
}```wouldn't you be wasting like
an hour
to get to death phase
i can make the other phases have like 100 hp
iron pilot
Nah solo is 30 mins or somethin'
hollow trail
to speed it
ah
sure
let me apply the other changes
(not sure how i feel about solo being easier)
iron pilot
Plus it's like, a good showing of how solo works with the new changes
ngl I'm probably the only one going to do it
Unless a challenge runner dude would
That and my personas are basically perfect after a lot of time trying that out
hollow trail
Reduce Jin's HP to 12000 ✅
Make Fuuka give you a Cookie before Takaya and Nyx if you don't have one ❎ (too much effort, will implement later)
Reduce Nyx (Fool)'s HP to 750 ✅
Increase Debilitating Sutra price to 7x gem ✅
Remove Scarlet Havoc from Punish ✅
Add Diarahan to the Punish (Grim Transcendence + Marakukaja + Heat Riser + Diarahan + Severe 1 More Chain + Night Queen) ✅
Make the punish happen always instead of only once ✅ ❓(needs to be tested)
Lower boss Theurgia charge rates to 1.3x (The rates you'd have if you had taken fortune reading) ❎ (i can do it really quick though if you can wait a few minutes)
hollow trail
gotcha
might even try cookie code then
idk if i can
need to check if it's decompilable
iron pilot
Well I can't check that one
Since I have cookie already
Oh wait
I picked Champagne on my perfect save
ashen pulsar
DRINKING!!
iron pilot
Wait wouldn't that mean, like
If I picked Fuuka at christmas, I'm actively nerfing myself
Because I won't get cookie in that case
But if I have champagne or any other item, I would
Effectively having two of the same item
hollow trail
oh no
i'd check for champagne too
basically i'd check for you having any xmas consumable, and if not, fuuka would call you and give you either "a cookie" or "another cookie", depending on who you went with lol
iron pilot
When would she give the cookie, when you enter?
hollow trail
after picking "i'm ready", yeah
iron pilot
Me when writing another Fuuker Yamagishit romance flavor text
hollow trail
iron pilot
Wait that seems complex
Like, you need to have something that'll tell you if you picked her on christmas or not
ashen pulsar
Fuuka's Lesbian Cookie
hollow trail
yeah its flagged
iron pilot
Interesting
hollow trail
unless they un-flag it after the date
doubt
but its possible
i'll uh
not add it for now
since its technically not needed to win
but if it proves needed as softlock prevention then yeah
hollow trail
can only do it after the theurgia but yeah
hollow trail
Fuuka's Lesbian Cookie
extremely hetero cookie im afraid
ashen pulsar
no wait
iron pilot
Alright.
ashen pulsar
fuck you bdjk
hollow trail
iron pilot
Thank you too, mate.
ashen pulsar
what does fuuka's non lesbian cookie do
hollow trail
it's a soma
so in mq it's uh
100% hp, 25% sp
battle-usable
only battle usable hpsp item in mq
(the other xmas gifts are too)
in the vanilla game it's a bead chain
soma is mitsuru's item
yuko has amrita soda
and yukari has precious egg
chihiro has +50 SP keychain
no
my bad
yuko is samarecarm
iron pilot
The keychain's extremely mid
hollow trail
sadly
iron pilot
Although honestly, out of everyone's gifts, it's probably the one that lasts the most
hollow trail
she plays long game
iron pilot
If it had a good effect and it's very fitting for the protag's playstyle, that'd be goated af
Something like boosting theurgia charge somehow maybe
hollow trail
magic mastery.
iron pilot
"how tf did she even craft this"
iron pilot
Buff Amp Boy will get it.
hollow trail
oh shit you could give it to buff amp boy
iron pilot
Unless you could make it like Nanako's gifts
Only equippable on protag
For obvious reasons
hollow trail
dont think i can
weapons have a tag but i think only weapons can have such a tag
wait
no
iron pilot
Isn't there a flag for armor to be character specific?
iron pilot
Not applicable for equips?
hollow trail
idk
iron pilot
Wouldn't hurt
Although mastery seems excessive maybe?
On the other hand though.....
ashen pulsar
magic needs it.
iron pilot
That seems like a very interesting gift compared to the others
"Here, have something that's usable in the hardest battle of your life"
iron pilot
"it'll give you something to cheer you up"
"here have this to nuke"
"it's a Jack Frost keychain, reminds me of you"
hollow trail
"yuki-kun, don't ask how i got this"
armageddon fusion spell card item
ashen pulsar
ice driver equip
iron pilot
Goemon keychain
hollow trail
ice driver equip
mod instantly trashed for dlc piracy
hollow trail
nyx is pirating omg
iron pilot
One Piece
ashen pulsar
the one piece
hollow trail
the one piece (elec driver gloves)
ashen pulsar
real
iron pilot
Anyways I think it'd be interesting as a gift
Because it's technically not that good unless the player spec into it
But at that point you'll have the ingredients to do so
And it's only applicable to maybe two blocks and the final bosses
hollow trail
i would if it didn't essentially force you into a romance
even if it is the one i'd end up picking anyway 
iron pilot
Shrimply don't mention in the patch notes what the item is changed into
ashen pulsar
i should do a chihiro cosplay...
iron pilot
hollow trail
some stuff here is missing from the theurgiaboost table
does it not cover everything
or am i reading it wrong
oh
ashen pulsar
kill lightoru gojo?
hollow trail
i am
iron pilot
Maybe the other bits doesn't work
hollow trail
nah nah
i was misreading
it's not per character
it's per boost, with the characters in each enum
iron pilot
Oh.
iron pilot
Yeah that guy's thorough
That's for sure
A bit hard to talk to (likes to explain everything in detail, for better or for worse)
But is very good at doing it
hollow trail
wait
charge ACTUALLY does count for buffboy's tgr
i was JOKING
you can charge and just not use it
iron pilot
Yeah it did
hollow trail
ashen pulsar
yukari x haxman op combo?
hollow trail
yukari x haxman op combo?
i gave haxman charge so he could literally do that and go elec
iron pilot
His kit is very good with shift amp
dreamy orchid
jokes on you guys, its impossible to make magic mastery an equip
hollow trail
fuuka gains tgr if someone gets up?
dreamy orchid
i know because I've tried 
hollow trail
jokes on you guys, its impossible to make magic mastery an equip
its not you just have skill issue
dreamy orchid
purrhaps
iron pilot
fuuka gains tgr if someone gets up?
Technically everyone does
ashen pulsar
DESTROYED
hollow trail
Technically everyone does
nono i know
but fuuka specifically has 100
and 0 everywhere else
oh no nvm
iron pilot
Well I guess her charge condition is supporting
hollow trail
wait
the fortune stacks with bosses
so it works on liz
is it only liz it works on
dreamy orchid
yea
iron pilot
Technically yeah but Liz is basically the only one where you can do that because soul fortune
Is only applicable to her practically
Everyone else is in a day where you can't do it
Oh yeah wanna know something fucking stupid?
hollow trail
ok
ashen pulsar
you?
iron pilot
You can't use Sylphid Aura on full moons
hollow trail
lol
ashen pulsar
what is that again
iron pilot
I tried
dreamy orchid
fuuka's auto-maraku/masuku thing
hollow trail
what is that again
maraku + masuku
dreamy orchid
its useless
ashen pulsar
never used any of fuuka's skills outside of empress/emperor
hollow trail
its not useless i needed it for one (1) fight
dreamy orchid
im pretty sure i unlocked the actual auto-ma's before she got it tho lol
hollow trail
you did not
iron pilot
I used them for the fraudihiko vids
hollow trail
thats not possible
iron pilot
Yeah idk if that's possible
dreamy orchid
oh nevermind she gets it very early
hollow trail
anyway it would be really good if analysis was free
dreamy orchid
damn i guess i just didn't realise it exsits
iron pilot
You only get auto mas at 30s
hollow trail
cuz i aint wasting SP on that shit
iron pilot
Spell Master on Fuuker optimal
dreamy orchid
oracle gives you heat riser guaranteed anyways tho so like its not very practical even without autos
ashen pulsar
bussy
iron pilot
Oh good point
dreamy orchid
spell master fuuka
iron pilot
spell master Fuuka
Magic Ability Mitsuru
Which way
hollow trail
im looking at this theurgia table and honestly i cant think of anything i'd realisically want to change other than setting the boss table to 1.3x of the normal table
iron pilot
She would in the Nyx fight
dreamy orchid
so i don't think spell master on her is anything other than a meme strat
iron pilot
Her SP bank doesn't get bigger in this one
dreamy orchid
She would in the Nyx fight
if you scan every single phase i guess? but you could just not scan the first few
iron pilot
I don't think that can be assumed to some players
hollow trail
oh
hold a fucking second
boss table isn't flat 2x
yukari charges LESS on bosses
iron pilot
What did they mean by that?
ashen pulsar
ashen pulsar
incredible
dreamy orchid
i know recovering from down is doubled
iron pilot
Maybe intended because "they heal a lot on bosses"
ashen pulsar
healing during the boss throwing?
iron pilot
Lmao
dreamy orchid
tbf 20% charge for casting one (1) healing skill is still really good lmao
hollow trail
this isnt x2 at ALL
dreamy orchid
i assumed it was 2x but i only really took a glance at it
recovering from down was multiplied so i assumed the rest was too lol
dreamy orchid
yea buff amp guy gets the same boost from buffs on bosses as he does in normal fights
iron pilot
Tf
dreamy orchid
oh i see whats happening
their boosts from using any skills at all is more than doubled
so the charge feels about twice as fast regardless of if you fill conditions or not
hollow trail
items L???
iron pilot
Yeah technically I'm nerfing my theurgia charge rate
On the other hand, Nyx is a fight where you get down'd a lot
So if you take calculated risks, you charge faster
hollow trail
wouldn't it be funny if the table accepted negative ints
ashen pulsar
buff anti amp
hollow trail
downed? lose all TGR
dreamy orchid
Aki gets +10% for phys/magic/crits/weak on bosses wheras he only gets +3% for these normally
hollow trail
please this would be so funny
dreamy orchid
wouldn't that just make it impossible to charge theurgia against bosses who anub
dreamy orchid
would also make it impossible for aigis and yukari to do anything against hermit
actually yes this would be funny af
ashen pulsar
🐱
iron pilot
Lining up a killshot on hermit is easy (I didn't do it because it's intended and not because of skill issue I swear)
dreamy orchid
wait tf
why does yukari get a lower boost from using magic against a boss than akihiko does?
hollow trail
haxman
iron pilot
Good question
dreamy orchid
aki isn't even a magic character lmao
iron pilot
Haxman
hollow trail
buff amp makes theurgia rate 1.3x by default
ashen pulsar
real
dreamy orchid
Yukari is cucked in bosses holy shit
dreamy orchid
buff amp makes theurgia rate 1.3x by default
its higher than 1.3x
ashen pulsar
yukari in the chair who's she watching
dreamy orchid
he gets like 2.5x lmao
ashen pulsar
no...
dreamy orchid
yukari in the chair who's she watching
she's watching haxman one shot the reaper
iron pilot
They synergize on reaper kills
dreamy orchid
Haxman is the strongest character in the game (when not counting theurgia) !!!!
iron pilot
His theurgia is undeniably good now in MQ
ashen pulsar
Haxman is the strongest character in the game (when not counting theurgia) !!!!
dreamy orchid
In Master Quest he's quite sizably stronger than junpei (when not factoring crit rates or theurgia)
iron pilot
And is a decent shift into character
Arguably more than Junpei (he does the shifting to him)
hollow trail
iron pilot
Actually I wanted to test, like
How strong would they be at level 99 hitting the reaper on crit
I think Junpei will win
dreamy orchid
Haxman is the strongest character in the game ~~(when not counting theurgia)~~ !...
(only when assuming 99 all stats and not counting multihits cus those are le rng)
iron pilot
In vanilla
ashen pulsar
(~~only when assuming 99 all stats and not counting multihits cus those are le r...
stop moving the goalpost haxman denier
dreamy orchid
with unmodified stats? Junpei should win
In MQ Junpei would probably win even more
Because God's Hand nerfed into being Brave Blade clone
ashen pulsar
mid's hand
iron pilot
Single target boost might decide it
On the other hand, shift boost + amp on Junpei's possible
dreamy orchid
no it wouldn't
God's Hand nerf is a bigger multiplier than single-target boost is
so Aki would be worse
Aki only outdamaged because cus his phys skill was better
ashen pulsar
🤓 ummmmm actually BUFF AMP!!!
dreamy orchid
1.69x evasion op
hollow trail
- Jin2's HP lowered to 12000
- Reduced Nyx (Fool) HP to 750
- Increased Debilitating Sutra price to 7+7
- Removed Scarlet Havoc from Nyx Punish condition
- Made Punish condition more punishing (Diarahan trollage)
ashen pulsar
dreamy orchid
diarahan op
iron pilot
I think I can test this in 30 mins
ashen pulsar
do it now
ashen pulsar
wait
iron pilot
Nah I'm soloing
hollow trail
are you gonna test the punish
iron pilot
Yeah
iron pilot
It's simple, I don't theurgia in the first 13 phases anyways
Sure
Saki Mitama will be the goat
hollow trail
maybe don't burn time listening to nyx yap
dreamy orchid
actually does armageddon then gets one tapped by agi like a boss
iron pilot
Hey man, I love the voice acting on that one
hollow trail
i know
iron pilot
Thank you Akira Ishida
dreamy orchid
protag now getting a dialogue option to address her as ryoji is funny
i didn't know that was there before watching the doors vid lol
iron pilot
i didn't know that was there before watching the doors vid lol
It's stupid af imo
ashen pulsar
already did
iron pilot
It's uncapped already wdym
dreamy orchid
oh is it?
iron pilot
Yeah
dreamy orchid
get shoes of light for haxman
iron pilot
100% evasion haxman real
hollow trail
protag now getting a dialogue option to address her as ryoji is funny
i always pick it
iron pilot
I could I guess but I'm soloing
ashen pulsar
if uncapped evasion rate ali dance stacks with sukukaja haxman would only get hit 30.5% of the time
dreamy orchid
well it won't make a difference if akihiko can never get hit
ashen pulsar
ashen pulsar
haxman wins by doing nothing
iron pilot
(has high counter so repels phys)
dreamy orchid
use all your incenses to get him 99 ag/lu
iron pilot
Technically my perfect save has everyone with that
ashen pulsar
lu boosts high counter (trust)
hollow trail
the fuck does lu even do
ashen pulsar
your mother
hollow trail
ok
iron pilot
Crit rate, ailment rate and shit
ashen pulsar
bdjk post the fuckass formula
iron pilot
Divide the attacker's Lu with the defender (after adding 50 or something to both)
Multiply by 2 if apt pupil's in there, multiply by 0.5 if sharp student's in there
Multiply with base crit rate
Then the additives, add those
Voila
iron pilot
Lmfao
ashen pulsar
haxman 200 lu
hollow trail
haxman 200 lu
129*
ashen pulsar
buff driver
dreamy orchid
give haxman 1.3x higher stats
iron pilot
Due to how the formula works, I have 100% crit rate against anything except death phase nyx or Liz with my Heaven's Blade build
iron pilot
Because anything else doesn't have 99 Lu
ashen pulsar
what does it have normally
hollow trail
way less
iron pilot
55 or someshit
hollow trail
thats all i remember
dreamy orchid
does fortune use the wheel
iron pilot
Nope
ashen pulsar
hollow trail
no
dreamy orchid
L
dreamy orchid
that would've been funny
iron pilot
Fuck you fatlus
dreamy orchid
make it as close to the movies as possible (force the player to solo)
hollow trail
i do wanna solo it by restricting myself in each phase to the matching arcana persona
like in movie
ashen pulsar
scarletto havoc
hollow trail
it counts!!!!!
iron pilot
Nah scarlet havoc's name is Gurenge Slash in Jp iirc
dreamy orchid
does protag use the max arcana personas
ashen pulsar
oh yeah the movie fucks up the arcana thing too
iron pilot
Well she uses Mother Harlot instead of Alilat
hollow trail
Maha-Scharlette Havhokk
ashen pulsar
it's all except empress or something
iron pilot
He*
ashen pulsar
femc canon??
hollow trail
does protag use the max arcana personas
implied
iron pilot
To be fair, Mother Harlot is badass compared to dumbass pillar
ashen pulsar
but alilat has boobs!
hollow trail
so does harlot
dreamy orchid
pillar is goated if you're a megaten youtuber wanting to beat elizabeth
divine pillar meta !!
iron pilot
The song I'm using in that fight is the song playing when protag hits death phase
ashen pulsar
use krow battle theme
iron pilot
Probably one of the best songs P3 has imo
It's very fitting, the only L is he's using Thanatos in the movie
dreamy orchid
the mixing was a lil quiet in your gameplay
nah bro thanatos is goated
he has new moon thanatos with phys skill up vorpal blade trust
hollow trail
simply skill card it until its good
ashen pulsar
bdjk cheated
dreamy orchid
didn't you literally get it
i won't lie doors i think he can and the guide thing is just wrong
iron pilot
Yeah but every logical explanation says I shouldn't have
ashen pulsar
sussy
iron pilot
Unless my game glitched
ashen pulsar
cosmic ray
iron pilot
Nah I think he's trustworthy
dreamy orchid
get magic mastery arsene unmodded
iron pilot
Bro's scared of saying misinfo
dreamy orchid
wait is the person behind this stuff a buff amp glazer
iron pilot
True!
hollow trail
oh the fucking game updated
iron pilot
bruh
ashen pulsar
yeah
iron pilot
do I have to download
hollow trail
i wouldnt yet
iron pilot
tf did they update for, actually
hollow trail
it fucks with all files i think
ashen pulsar
it removed like 7gb
hollow trail
inb4 mods just dont load anymore
iron pilot
alrighty
ashen pulsar
surely
hollow trail
zipping game to make sure its backed up
iron pilot
ok let's rock
iron pilot
wait is the person behind this stuff a buff amp glazer
he's the creator of the graphs so yeah
oh I have Jin/Takaya to get through too
I'll record those too
hollow trail
yeah hopefully jin is less fucking boring now
iron pilot
I'll do everything with a party except Nyx
iron pilot
Everything is still beatable solo but you're required to have a healer bot this time (very good)
neat reef
iron pilot
yeah I don't think people will complain on this one
iron pilot
2.1K damage fr
I armageddon'd him for the meme
although King and I would have killed
hollow trail
iron pilot
thanks mate
errant pumice
How’s the fatigue system going?
hollow trail
impossible to add until decompiler supports popreg opcode decompilation
(i need access to scripts that run on loading a new room)
iron pilot
holy shit lmfaooo\
I love that
I killed with Armageddon again
I didn't debuff and buff tbf
iron pilot
well time to solo
hollow trail
GL
hollow trail
that was peak
iron pilot
The AI works 100%
AI works perfectly, let's see if I can win
I burned my soma for this one mate
hollow trail
The AI works 100%
it only diarahaned once?
iron pilot
Yeah
hollow trail
awesome
iron pilot
I'm in the process of killing her now
hollow trail
gl
iron pilot
I forgot to give Arahabaki Enduring Soul so lmfao I could have legitimately died with 1 HP
hollow trail
loll
iron pilot
40 mins
because I let her heal
lmfao
lmfao
oh yeah she just continues on the next turn of her pattern, so I think it works perfectly
hmmmmm I should have brought a Lucifer with Diarahan for the best results
that's the only piece of optimization left for this one imo
hollow trail
oh yeah she just continues on the next turn of her pattern, so I think it works ...
that's a recent fix
idk why
but i had punish reset to magician
(bug)
iron pilot
interesting
I think that's good though, like
I wasted my Theurgia bar, right?
I have less breathing room if she doesn't reset
I didn't have Diarahan so I was using Cadenza lol
hollow trail
Morning Star
miss
"Whoa, I'm safe"
Nyx is laughing audaciously
"fuck"
hollow trail
ultra trolled
iron pilot
anyways I'll post again, expect that in 8 hours
hollow trail
dreamy orchid
yeah I don't think people will complain on this one
Ken carrying as usual?
hollow trail
dreamy orchid
Does Nyx diarahan if you use karns btw?
hollow trail
no
dreamy orchid
or is the diarahan punish only for armageddon
hollow trail
nothing, it's intended
dreamy orchid
ah okay
hollow trail
and no it's not as cheesable as you think
in solo it's more of an issue but i have decided i dont care
dreamy orchid
i was just curious cus i thought you gave it karn punish
dreamy orchid
ah okay
hollow trail
it'll still get its shit bashed in with reflects sometimes
especially in phases where it has no choice but to
dreamy orchid
yea i remember bdjk beating hanged man instantly with sweep reflect
dreamy orchid
Ken absolutely goated
hollow trail
setup was relatively intricate
iron pilot
It's 20K HP, it'll be fineeeeee
hollow trail
i mean technically its 10k
ashen pulsar
dreamy orchid
Couldn't handle Amada
He was too good
they'll kill him
but we all know deep down that he's the GOAT
iron pilot
He's fine, not the goat
iron pilot
11%
iron pilot
25%
hollow trail
lolllll
iron pilot
84%
iron pilot
ashen pulsar
wouldn't changing them be a nonissue now that level scaling doesn't make them absurdly strong?
hollow trail
i'd have to individually track them all down
ashen pulsar
fair
iron pilot
wdym
we can just beat up the reaper to get to the levels I was at in the vid
it's possible
dreamy orchid
hollow trail
we can just beat up the reaper to get to the levels I was at in the vid
i mean sure you can mirror strats the guy and pray he doesn't kill you
ashen pulsar
cock
hollow trail
if you can do reaper at like lv65 and it isn't a 10 hour slog, its ok
iron pilot
that or flat out beat the guy, it's decently a challenge but I think they can handle it
hollow trail
it might have too much hp
i gave it 18k or whatever but that was with the expectation you'd be at a higher level
soft cap kinda ruined that
iron pilot
16K I think
hollow trail
i should probably lower it to 9000 again
hollow trail
ok you go do it at lv65 without antiques gear then
iron pilot
wait, why?
ashen pulsar
becuase
hollow trail
xp gets fucky near adamah
i think
im not sure what level you'll be at by the time you reach jin
but it wont be 90
lol
ashen pulsar
hsa anybody looked into exp calc btw?
because i looked at the table briefly and the reper was like 204 exp
lo
hollow trail
yeah
iron pilot
I think it was late 70s to early 80s based on the shadows and bosses available
ashen pulsar
my guess is it's probably exponented off level but idk for sure
hollow trail
the highest level shadow is lv75
you can go higher with gatekeepers but only on one party
that is a potential soft lock
hollow trail
which one
iron pilot
tenjin musha, the red shadows after floor 247
hollow trail
can you reliably spawn mushas tho lmao
iron pilot
gamble
hollow trail
"gamble" as funny as it is is not very good design
ashen pulsar
isnt there a fortune specificaly for that
hollow trail
Ok but what if you decide to do the whole tower on 1/31
what now
no gamble no reds
ashen pulsar
eat shit lol
hollow trail
not a valid answer
hollow trail
i can't allow a player to enter a a literally unwinnable scenario
iron pilot
tbf I think someone's gonna be metagaming a lot if they decide to do that kind of thing
hollow trail
that is literally on you
No, it's on the game
dreamy orchid
the game gives you the option to rewind 7 days if you die to a main story boss doesn;t it
ashen pulsar
^
hollow trail
no
iron pilot
they'll beat up the reaper fr
hollow trail
it does not
dreamy orchid
L
hollow trail
reload removed that
dreamy orchid
p5 did that
hollow trail
because of rollback
dreamy orchid
can you rollback an infinite amount of times
hollow trail
no
and by the time you enter 1/31 there's not enough rollback slots to fix something like that
iron pilot
yeah there's 3 days of leeway for rewind
hollow trail
i don't think designing the xp curve around "guess that we intended to make you use this specific fortune" is good
ashen pulsar
so change the level of the enemies?
hollow trail
I'm not touching the 300+ shadows in the game
ashen pulsar
just touch like the last block lol
hollow trail
I'd rather not before knowing the true viability of killing the reaper in a legit mq run
i just might have to play the fucking game
ashen pulsar
proud of u king
hollow trail
I'm at the point where i can't think of any more changes anyway so it would be the time to do a full test run
iron pilot
I did do it at 82 and everyone else is 70s in those vids
hollow trail
only thing I'd maybe do is add dlc rework to it, but remove the unique skills (nyx uses them)
iron pilot
I think it's reasonable for at least the protag to hit that benchmark
iron pilot
Ken strats will get them by trust
hollow trail
i tried ken strats and evil smile/tentafaroo ruins the run
breaks all the makarakarns
iron pilot
did you lower his SP
iron pilot
yeah
hollow trail
how fast does it charge in peak condition
iron pilot
basically it charges every 2 or 3 turns
ashen pulsar
wot
iron pilot
76
but there's armor for that
oh wait no antique
but that thing's from harabah so idk
hollow trail
oh true
ashen pulsar
can't you just buy it for 500k anyway
hollow trail
that's resist no?
ashen pulsar
null all ailments
iron pilot
nah they mean amritite necklace
ashen pulsar
so better than unshaken
hollow trail
2000000¥
iron pilot
I was talking about fallen noble's armor
oh nah you can only buy one in a playthrough
hollow trail
then it's useless
iron pilot
not on protag it ain't
hollow trail
i need aoe fear/confuse null
iron pilot
there's an insta heal thing you get from Liz
and there's a null fear boot
that you get in arqa or somethin'
Aigis exists so no need for one member
hollow trail
oh true
iron pilot
you need max devil and lovers card to get it though iirc
hollow trail
xp curve is separate so growth 3 does still give max XP regardless of level
you can grind personas even if mc gets 0
iron pilot
yeah arahabaki got to 90 in my run lmfao
hollow trail
low levelling keepers is a lot more tolerable so i guess the expected floor is anywhere between 72 and 75
iron pilot
oh yeah
you know how you can skip mfs
you don't need to, like, take those into account right
hollow trail
i wouldn't really design around a glitch to skip mfs
iron pilot
lmfao
anyways I'm guessing you're doing the absolute bare minimum and no antique to see if it's possible
hollow trail
pretty much, I need to see if it's even possible at all to reach Jin with really mid conditions
it's technically a level spike from 75 to 90
with nothing in between but the reaper
iron pilot
assuming no reaper, yeah
well uhhhh
there's floors before them that has enemies that are at 70s
if anything else, you can edit those guys
they're unique to those floors pretty sure
hollow trail
if they're unique that's better
I need to check if there's anything at all that I should change and then commit to a full playthrough to test
iron pilot
yeah they're old Monad fodders
dreamy orchid
question
hollow trail
cuz every time i make a change it affects whole game
iron pilot
I love those guys
hollow trail
like the no items rule
hollow trail
probably? it's 99
ashen pulsar
hollow trail
nyx is supposed to be the peak
dreamy orchid
i should replay all of p3n to do low level master quest