Persona 3 Reload | Master Quest | Persona Modding | Page 5

hollow trail Apr 22, 2024, 6:58 AM

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and probably the first block too

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this would make theurgy reset impossible, unless i also make the flag forcefully enable itself at the start of every battle

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this would however force splitup on every floor too, unless i reprogram the feature entirely to be rng

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lol

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idk what the actual real odds of split up are

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but i could make it run on rng

hollow trail Apr 22, 2024, 7:52 AM

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the script that loads at the start of battle is the peaceful retry script rip

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i dont think it does anything unless you die

hollow trail Apr 22, 2024, 8:24 AM

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init scripts cant be decompiled whatsoever anyway so i gotta put a lid on this idea until then anyway

iron pilot Apr 22, 2024, 10:26 AM

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📎 SaveData003.sav

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Hermit

hollow trail Apr 22, 2024, 11:11 AM

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Naonod

iron pilot Apr 22, 2024, 11:32 AM

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Akihiko proving himself to be a fraud once again

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He gimps the Hermit boss (it does dekaja reliably so me buffing the team will lead to a loss of DPS from repels)

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(I'm the only one setting up the debuffs for repels while Ken setups the karns)

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Items will fix the issue but I found out that you can't buy makarakarn items at this point of the game

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Bruh

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:05 AM

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tried priestess with the new skill powers

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lmfao is all i have to say

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was pretty fun

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 10:07 AM

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Common Jack Frost with Agi W

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:07 AM

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zio frost is probably better here

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 10:07 AM

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Yeah I have him with all those

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:07 AM

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actually no

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it needs agi too

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junpei can't handle the despairing tiaras on his own

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 10:07 AM

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That's what I'm saying!!!

celest kindle Apr 23, 2024, 10:22 AM

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On my winning run i had to deal with both Fire and Wind adds

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no elecs iirc

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I was still doing mostly support tho honesty lol

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Rakunda and Tarunda

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there was a little over a minute before i won

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Last hit was Yukari

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:25 AM

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i usually win with 2 seconds on clock lmao

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 10:25 AM

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Was my vid before or after the skill rebalances

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I forgor

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:25 AM

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i think before

celest kindle Apr 23, 2024, 12:31 PM

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hollow trail i usually win with 2 seconds on clock lmao

damn

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I actually only got to 10 secs once but it was in a failed run

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I got bufula'd and wasn't using an Ice Repel/Block Persona

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No jack frostu....

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 3:34 PM

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Fortune/Strength

📎 SaveData004.sav

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 3:34 PM

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nice

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empress/emperor is so fucking rigged lol

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entire fight is scripted

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its designed with the expectation you oneshot them because fuuka literally doesnt have the sp

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 3:43 PM

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Oh yeah that save might be slightly outdated

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I forgot to get slash boost equip so I rewinded and got that

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Lmao

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:37 PM

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Empress&Emperor

honestly this one's more funny than hard

you'll get shafted only if your personas are really really bad, but it's still quite easy, fuuka runs out of SP after 2 scans but there's a trick to it

||They will never have the same affinity twice in a row. Empress will always cycle between Slash and Pierce, Emperor will always choose Fire, Elec, or Light+Dark as weakness. So if Fuuka is out of SP, you can guess almost immediately based off of that||

📎 P3R_Master_Quest4.5.0.7z

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 7:38 PM

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any reason specifically for the type choices?

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:38 PM

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yes

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 7:38 PM

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PauseChamp

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:39 PM

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forcing both buff amp boy and junpei to participate equally

forcing protagonist to have personas with coverage the party does not have

not including mitsuru and yukari's element, because they were defeated for a reason lol

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 7:39 PM

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but doesn't slash/pierce make empress junpei and protag only

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unless junpei doesn't have pierce at that point in p3n anymore

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forgor

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:40 PM

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junpei doesn't have pierce in my save

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he has bash though

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which is strike

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strike would mean all 3 characters could wail on empress

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tbh i could remove fire from emperor

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and separate light/dark into two affinities

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(i dont have an eiha persona on me loooolll)

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 7:41 PM

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Nah I think junpeis magic is shit enough that it should be fine

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you could baton pass to protag but that's about it

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 PM

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thats what i was doing

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lots of baton passing and making protag switch intelligently

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 PM

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yummy

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 PM

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i sorta gave up on emperor's late stage ai

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because empress would probably be dead by then

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but they do interact with each other

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for example

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 7:43 PM

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Do they survive round 1 now

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:43 PM

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they survive round 1 even in vanilla

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but yes they have 1400

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 7:43 PM

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fire

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:43 PM

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empress will exploit weaknesses (it's on a pattern though so you can guard lol)

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she will then do bewilder on one more

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and emperor will getsu ei distressed party members

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 7:52 PM

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hollow trail Empress&Emperor honestly this one's more funny than hard you'll get shafted on...

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Added Hierophant
Nerfed Torrent Shot, a typo made it 50 x2-4 power instead of 25 x2-4, making Junpei and MC have ridiculously more power than intended early game (i knew something was wrong when i was consistently doing 70*4 to early game bosses should've caught that earlier)
Likewise nerfed Tempest Slash from 50 to 40
Re-nerfed Myriad Arrows from 40 -> 45 -> 30
Re-nerfed Arrow Rain from 27 -> 30 -> 25

📎 P3R_Master_Quest4.6.0.7z

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:56 PM

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hollow trail * Added Hierophant * Nerfed Torrent Shot, a typo made it 50 x2-4 power instead o...

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 10:56 PM

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wait you originally buffed arrow rain?

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:56 PM

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by 3

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 10:57 PM

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still.

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:57 PM

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i was just rounding out battle powers

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 10:57 PM

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sexy

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:57 PM

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no u

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 10:58 PM

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i do think arrow rain is something to keep an eye on because it's pretty disproportionately powerful for how quickly it's obtained in base game

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:58 PM

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📎 P3RMQ_Skill_Table.7z

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i agree

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:58 PM

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hollow trail

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 10:58 PM

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idk if u gave it shitty accuracy or something

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 10:59 PM

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lowered to 80

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not a huge fan of using missing as a crutch

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 10:59 PM

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valid

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but it makes sukukaja boy better naotroll

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:00 PM

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im making him better in other ways

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now i gotta replay hiero because i nuked the motherfucker with torrent shot spam

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:00 PM

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i believe in you

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:19 PM

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buffing buff boy........ making lovers not null distres..........

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sonic punching........

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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see

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you'd think that'd make buff amp boy peak

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but real ones will use mitsuru eerie sound

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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see

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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naotroll

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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lovers uses agidyne with AI_TAR_RND

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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it'd help him out tho

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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i will make it target mitsuru

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naosmiley

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:20 PM

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can you make it target weakness specifically

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so it also bullies mc

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:21 PM

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i can make it target anyone i want and anything i want

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if you are weak to fire, it will bully you

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:21 PM

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goated

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:21 PM

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mitsuru is gonna be viable but she will have to guard a lot

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and you will have to memorize the ai pattern if you want her there

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NaoCd

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:21 PM

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will you add back maragion or just keep agidyne?

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:21 PM

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eh just agidyne

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i gave hiero mazionga tho

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:22 PM

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based

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kouga shit on hierophant is so bitchmade

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:22 PM

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and dekaja and masukunda

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and yes masukunda is actually good here

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bro evades so much even without it

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its unreal

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:22 PM

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masukunda counters buff amp guy

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:22 PM

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buff amp guy can wait his turn

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:22 PM

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also is hierophant the boss with the alternate version of assault dive

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that damages percentage hp

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:23 PM

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it has assault dive but i dont think it's %

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:23 PM

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there's a second assault dive and idk what enemy has it

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:23 PM

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i also made hiero use assault dive on whoever has the least hp

junpei punish

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TakoPepePoint

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:23 PM

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but it does like 80% hp damage

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so i just assumed its what hierophant has

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they tend to give bosses the unique versions of skills

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:23 PM

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dreamy orchid but it does like 80% hp damage

only if it crits

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which admittedly, is semi common

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:24 PM

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oh the enemy-only one has 0% crit lol

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so ig its not hierophant's

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:25 PM

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wait why is holy arrow so fucking buffed too

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what is this skill table

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dark

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why did i overtune pierce so much

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:25 PM

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yeah holy arrow is technically a level 2 skill lmao

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you can get it from your first non-scripted shuffle time

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:26 PM

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wtf is this

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this is literal schizo balancing

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:26 PM

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vibes-based balancing

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:26 PM

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what was i doing when i got to pierce

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it wasn't vibes i had a ruleset

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i just

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completely ignored it for pierce??

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DogConfused

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:26 PM

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you buffed vile assault crit rate a lot too

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though i assume that was intentional

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:27 PM

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that one was intentional yeah

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guess i'll fix pierce alongside lovers patch

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wtf

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actual crack

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ooooooooooh i see what's up

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i made this shit be on par with sonic punch

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which is also excessively cracked

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:29 PM

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tbf holy arrow being a similar equivalent to sonic punch wouldn't be bad if it wasn't a rank 1 card

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:29 PM

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hollow trail buffing buff boy........ making lovers not null distres..........

I'm not opposed to this

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:29 PM

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iron pilot I'm not opposed to this

lovers has instaheal so like....

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billcosbyTRUE

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seems good to me

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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ashen pulsar tbf holy arrow being a similar equivalent to sonic punch wouldn't be bad if it w...

this means i need to nerf akihiko

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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Wait a min

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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which uhhh

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hahahaha

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no

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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wdym

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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keep sonic punch the same but nerf holy arrow

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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his only phys move for quite a while is sonic punch

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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cus sonic punch isn't a rank 1 card

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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yea

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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dreamy orchid cus sonic punch isn't a rank 1 card

sonic punch is acquirable around the exact same time, it's still excessively powerful

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it might fall off

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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well like

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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silly meow meow

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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but by the time you get it it's excessive

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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you're not reading!

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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holy arrow is a level 2 skill

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sonic punch is like level 12

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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sonic punch is 11

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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i think the power it has in vanilla is fine

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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85 power at level 11 is overkill

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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its 70 right

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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holy arrow is obtained from the first shuffle time

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:31 PM

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oh wait you buffed it

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yea tone it down to vanilla values lol

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sonic punch is fine when you get it, it only sucks on fraudihiko cus he gets stuck with it for like 19 levels

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:32 PM

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oh yeah this is just insane

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:32 PM

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that's a typo

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well

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its not distress

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TakoPepePoint

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is what i mean

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:32 PM

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still

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:33 PM

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but yea tone down holy arrow and sonic punch a bit

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:33 PM

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moreso holy

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:34 PM

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well sonic punch here is basically the same power as assault dive but earlier and with a better effect

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Holy Arrow: 45 power, 12% HP, 5% Crit, 95% Acc, 35% Charm

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:34 PM

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fire

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i think you could get

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yea

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higher hp

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that sounds good

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:35 PM

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nerfing sonic punch will just make akihiko even more ass

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tbf

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:35 PM

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fraud boy wouldn't be so terrible if weapons were usable

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cus then he could have his punches replace it naotroll

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:35 PM

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if weapons were usable the game would be even easier

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0 HP 0 SP attacks

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peak

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:35 PM

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add back stumble naotroll

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:35 PM

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TRUE

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stumble peaking

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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stumble guys when

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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also keep in mind weapons have terrible crit rates

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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ashen pulsar add back stumble <:naotroll:846644435911049237>

what if, instead

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What if we modded P3R to remove one more and instead when a weakness was hit it would add a point, let's call it a "Stack", and with Passives and character traits certain moves could award bonus "Stacks" and after everyone had taken their turn, then an All-Out Attack sequence would play, with the power dependent on the amount of Stacks you had accumulated, and then certain perks and skills could extend this AoA with bonus effects

We could call it something like, a "Sabbath" system, sounds fitting for Megaten

I think this would be good billcosbyTRUE

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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additive crit rate passives naotroll

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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hollow trail What if we modded P3R to remove one more and instead when a weakness was hit it ...

TRUE

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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ashen pulsar additive crit rate passives <:naotroll:846644435911049237>

akihiko can't get any of those lmao

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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and and and what if

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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the only one he can get is auto-rebellion

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM

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weapons hitting weakness only gave one stack

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and phys skills hitting weaknesses gave 2

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:37 PM

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sick

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is weapon base halving in some form of table or do i actually have to fucking double all BPs in the tbl

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:37 PM

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it's a BP

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:37 PM

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this game has like what 300 weapons

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:37 PM

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ashen pulsar it's a BP

BYEEEEEEE

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:38 PM

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naotroll

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:38 PM

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it's not mapped out in 010 is it

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:38 PM

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no idea

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if it wasn't on lightoru's repo probably not

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:38 PM

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which bp is it

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:38 PM

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oh you meant

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uhh i forgor

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sowwy

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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isn't it in btlcalc or something

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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mayhabs.

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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but not editable with 010

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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wack

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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its some stupid formula

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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how

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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Holy shit Deus Xiphos will actually be good???

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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its literally bp*0.5

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:40 PM

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but yeah if you want them to work you'll probably break tactics AI irreparably unless you move basic attacks to be like a last resort thing

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cus AI mfs are gonna start thinking their weapons have 900 power

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lmao

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:40 PM

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i'm hesitant to make weapons too good for that reason, and also the fact that, come on, be fucking for real, 450 power at NO COST???

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:40 PM

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Just remove phys attacks on the AI and you can force them to use it via rush

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Just like vanilla fr

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:40 PM

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450 power (lower than phys skills) with 3% crit

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:40 PM

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iron pilot Just remove phys attacks on the AI and you can force them to use it via rush

easier said than done

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:41 PM

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dreamy orchid 450 power (lower than phys skills) with 3% crit

higher than dyne, already overtuned by definition

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especially if i add elementals

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:41 PM

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dreamy orchid isn't it in btlcalc or something

yes

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:41 PM

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only overtuned if boosters for phys exist naotroll

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in p3r it'd be impossible to really balance them around magic's level though considering the boosts exist

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:43 PM

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ashen pulsar oh yeah this is just insane

is there anything else that stands out

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tbh

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:43 PM

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are u fucking kidding me

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i just closed fmodel out

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open it back up

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theres an update

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:43 PM

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ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:44 PM

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fuuka

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ill check for u hun

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:44 PM

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ik onion complained fatal end got shafted

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Well yeah it did

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:45 PM

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aoa damage calc should be there too naotroll

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there's no like

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:45 PM

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It's balanced like an early game skill (it is from the protag's perspective) but the other members get it when it's outclassed 15 levels or more ago

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:45 PM

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"0.5"

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to edit tho

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:46 PM

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awesome

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:46 PM

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shinji having it is so funny

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oh yeah meow meow

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are you gonna fuck with level damage scaling

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:46 PM

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no plans to? dont even know how it works

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:47 PM

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it's a dt

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-13 levels deals half damage

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+10 deals 1.5x

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could remove it and make it technically balanced for all levels naotroll

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:47 PM

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honestly zero level scaling at all is quite based

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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billcosbyTRUE maybe

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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I do wonder how that feels

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That sounds interesting

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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doesnt it make game easier

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technically

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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lets you get by lower leveled but makes you feel less overwhelming powerful at higher levels

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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if you're underleveled it's easier

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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hollow trail doesnt it make game easier

no because you are inherently overleveled in this game

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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if you're overleveled it's harder

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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The game yeets exp on you all the time, at least you'd be on level

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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dreamy orchid no because you are inherently overleveled in this game

idk about you but i battled every shadow i found like a psychopath and only got overleveled in december

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 PM

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if you avoid all encounters and do only mandatory battles then it'd make the game slightly easier

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:49 PM

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Especially if you want everyone same leveled

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:49 PM

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hollow trail idk about you but i battled every shadow i found like a psychopath and only got ...

i had enemies running away from me at the start of every block cus i tried to level up my characters evenly lol

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this started happening by like yabbashah 2

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:49 PM

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it might make it easier to have a specifically tailored experience if you don't have the scaling perhaps

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but if not it's just an idea to play around with

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:49 PM

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i'm down to try nuking the scaling

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uhh

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can i 010 it or do i have to put the mf in UE4

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:50 PM

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you could remove the overlevel penalty

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:50 PM

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i dont wanna open ue

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femc

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:50 PM

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naotroll

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remove only overlevel bonus, keep underlevel naotroll

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:50 PM

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enemies actually still putting up a fight while you're overleveled would be nice

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:50 PM

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it's prob ue

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:50 PM

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ashen pulsar remove only overlevel bonus, keep underlevel <:naotroll:846644435911049237>

this would hurt enemies a lot too tho

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cus if you're overleveled (easy to do) they'd still do pathetic damage

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i think if you're gonna remove one, you gotta remove the other

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:51 PM

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don't worry

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there's a separate version for bosses

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:51 PM

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naotroll

ashen pulsar Apr 23, 2024, 11:51 PM

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they only do more damage if they overlevel you

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they don't underscale

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:51 PM

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oh thats funny

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but what does the game consider a boss

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:51 PM

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Simply make that apply to enemies

dreamy orchid Apr 23, 2024, 11:51 PM

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guardians or just full moons?

iron pilot Apr 23, 2024, 11:52 PM

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I think it's whatever has master of tartarus blaring in the background

hollow trail Apr 23, 2024, 11:59 PM

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dreamy orchid but what does the game consider a boss

so here's what you do

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mod menu yourself to level 1

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set the multiplier to like

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999999999999

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enter battle

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check damage

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profit

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:00 AM

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naotroll

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:02 AM

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no 010 template smfh

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unreal midgine time

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:03 AM

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Nooooooo

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:04 AM

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i can edit it i just have to like

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waste time!!

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ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:10 AM

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naotopray

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:11 AM

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Pain

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:13 AM

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ha you're gonna like this

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boss scaling on -13 is already 1x

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:14 AM

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i know

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:14 AM

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it's only for 10+

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:14 AM

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i said that

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:14 AM

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that it changes

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you did? didn't notice

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TakoPepePoint

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:14 AM

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eternaldespair

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HE DOESNT READ MY MESSAGES

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:14 AM

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so

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you were saying 1.0x for all levels would be interesting

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that it

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:15 AM

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sorry for wasting your time king

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:15 AM

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pain_snao i'm asking you something

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:15 AM

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oh

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uh

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could be!

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i mean for you that might make it in some respects easier to scale for different players

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:16 AM

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getsu-ei is 1.75x??? lmfaoo

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:16 AM

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people won't be drastically outclassed when they didn't grind all members naotroll

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yeah

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that's why it's effectively 551 base game

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:16 AM

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mad

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oh okay so xp is x4 if 10 levels under

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that makes MQ reaper optimal to fight at 89

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Thonk

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orr

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no nvm

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:18 AM

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Get that out of there

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:18 AM

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hollow trail getsu-ei is 1.75x??? lmfaoo

sorry you had to find out like this.

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:18 AM

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i already knew

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i'm not removing xp multipliers

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that's non negotiable

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reaper to 99 is intended

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nyx is 99

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:19 AM

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make it x8

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:19 AM

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and im not making you play reaper 5 times

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:19 AM

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naotroll

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:19 AM

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i mean realistically when are you ever 10 levels under

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lol

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im confused though

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:20 AM

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you'd have to fight reaper at least 3 times

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for all party members naotroll

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:20 AM

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reaper at 14 is instant 99

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soooooo

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that's way more than 10 levels

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what's happening there

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because reaper at 80 is not 99

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:20 AM

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xp getting split between characters

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:20 AM

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its like 96

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:21 AM

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hollow trail that's non negotiable

Can you nerf it to just 50% increase

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:21 AM

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no

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you'd still have to grind reaper out several times with 50% increase

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reducing xp is stupid

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you will never be underleveled so why reduce the catch-up

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:21 AM

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I don't mind ngl

errant pumice Apr 24, 2024, 12:22 AM

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What about Armageddon? That’s a “press A to win congrats you are level 99 now FemCYay “ moment with reaper

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:22 AM

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will not change

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i saw you on memento mori thread

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:22 AM

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master quest reaper has over 9999 hp

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:22 AM

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changing armageddon is just stupid

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goes against game's theming

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:23 AM

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hollow trail you will never be underleveled so why reduce the catch-up

bdjk is an insane person who likes boring grinding

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:23 AM

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Make the Reaper null almighty and then use Amargeddon R if you try to use Armageddon on him naotroll

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This is balanced trust

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:23 AM

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It's not grinding unless you're doing reaper early which is unintended

errant pumice Apr 24, 2024, 12:23 AM

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hollow trail i saw you on memento mori thread

femcimok Sorry, I will drop that

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:24 AM

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i am not changing armageddon because it is an iconic skill with history behind it

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:24 AM

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ashen pulsar bdjk is an insane person who likes boring grinding

me when i played p3n as well

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:24 AM

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i instead integrated it into the bosses

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:24 AM

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The reaper not dying to armageddon is a reference to Sudou clearly

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:25 AM

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i also have no problem with armageddon oneshotting the reaper because by the time you are able to use it you'd already have been more than able to beat it, or likely even already have

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:25 AM

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Can Sudou tank armageddon?

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lmao

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:25 AM

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hollow trail i also have no problem with armageddon oneshotting the reaper because by the tim...

~~sage couldn't~~

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:25 AM

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armageddon is funny

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i like it

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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sage imposes baffling self-restrictions they can't handle

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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its really not even worth using in p3r because of the reduce hp/sp to 1 condition

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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dreamy orchid Can Sudou tank armageddon?

Nah but like, he'a already dead

A traditional IK move clearly won't have an effect on him

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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hollow trail sage imposes baffling self-restrictions they can't handle

the self restriction in question being not using haxman akihiko buff amp king

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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dreamy orchid its really not even worth using in p3r because of the reduce hp/sp to 1 conditio...

free liz heal on 1/31

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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damaging hama

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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dreamy orchid the self restriction in question being not using haxman akihiko buff amp king

they went no items too and wasted all their twilight fragments on thebel as a result

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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Armageddon becomes aight with Life Aid/Victory Cry on the used personas

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:26 AM

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how would that even happen

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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"i don't like using items"

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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you get like 99 billion fragments just for doing SLs

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and find a bunch in tartarus

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WAIT THEY WERE USING YUKARI

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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I got 50s at the end of the first month

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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HOW DID THEY RUN OUT OF SP

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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yukari is down 20 sp better top it off

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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by spamming auto recover

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lol

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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but mediarama is like 4sp..

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:27 AM

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Clearly we should disable auto recover

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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nah it was in sh2 it can stay

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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clearly, they should've ran amada/yukari/shinjiro

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infinite sp team!!!

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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ashen pulsar nah it was in sh2 it can stay

was it i didnt even notice

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or dont remember

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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yeah

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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i'd always go hideout for full recover

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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If you're a good player, auto recover is a shit skill

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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phys costs hp, bdjk...

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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auto recover op for not wasting my time like opening the menu does

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:29 AM

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Being efficient and using items for heals is better

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:29 AM

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why bother

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fuuka moment

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:30 AM

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in what universe do you ever need to be efficient with heals in any persona game, nevermind perusona 3 za nightfall?

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:30 AM

#

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i feel like this will just make normal battles easier

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but uh

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yea

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:30 AM

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dreamy orchid in what universe do you ever need to be efficient with heals in any persona game...

It's a general thing, every game that has auto recover on it tend to be useless

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:31 AM

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how is it useless

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it means less menuing which saves time

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thats the whole point

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:31 AM

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both doors joker kun living up to the name

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:31 AM

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Yeah but it doesn't take into account items usage at all, which isn't good for resource management

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:31 AM

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good one, pal

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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I hate that damned name

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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iron pilot Yeah but it doesn't take into account items usage at all, which isn't good for r...

you know what game does do this? YIIK I.V

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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doors is right auto recover is literally dogshit

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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why is it bad i don't get it

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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Well yeah if it has options for using items or using skills I think it'd be better

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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its for people who don't wanna put in effort and just want to heal up quickly

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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because it makes casual players lose even more sp than they need to

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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doesn't need to be strictly optimal

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 AM

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hollow trail because it makes casual players lose even more sp than they need to

(based)

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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it's not "not strictly optimal"

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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It needs to have options

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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it's actively sabotaging newbies

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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hollow trail because it makes casual players lose even more sp than they need to

so go home for the night naotroll

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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its literally anti-qol in its current state

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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it probably sabotaged the atlus playtesters too which is why they thought fuuka needed to restore 100% sp for free naotroll

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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it should prioritize items

errant pumice Apr 24, 2024, 12:33 AM

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Yeah, I never used Auto Recover Once, the whole gimmick is just bad

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:34 AM

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yeah auto recover is shit i never used it either

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:34 AM

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idk ive used auto recover in every game and never really used healing items and it didn't cause sp problems

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:34 AM

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Or have options for items only heals or skills only heals

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:34 AM

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it'd probably be better if it used items but i don't think it needs to really

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:34 AM

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onion you're not a magic spamming casual holy shit lol

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new players need all the sp they can get

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they do knockdowns only

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:34 AM

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well meovv i did it in p3 too

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i'd just have yukari and akihiko heal me with dia skills after every fight

#

naotroll

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:35 AM

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p3 is different

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sp is literally free there

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:35 AM

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i didn't know the bottom floors recovered sp until endgame

#

lmaooo

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:35 AM

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auto recover is good in p3

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:35 AM

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i was just save stating before bosses to save time

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so i never knew i got full sp for going to the entrance

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:35 AM

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naotroll

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Lmao

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:36 AM

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ok i have removed all level scaling in p3r

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(did not touch xp)

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:36 AM

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W

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:36 AM

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Test it

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:36 AM

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test mq reaper with it ig

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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reaper would uhhhh

#

deal less damage

#

actually

#

actually

#

this

#

is good

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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yeah but see how it feels

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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because after i buffed dynes

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it was oneshotting me no matter what

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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ken not getting one shot would be nice

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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so this is good

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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omg

#

you're welcome

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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this also nerfs karn cheese strats btw

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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Chernobog moment

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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cus the level diff makes repel damage a lot higher

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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That'd fine

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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that's not true

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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you mean it buffs it then

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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Repel strats kinda insane

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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troll

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:37 AM

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is it not?

#

ShioThink

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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its not yeah

#

repel damage is the same across all levels

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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stuff like endurance and level scaling only accounts for the hit target

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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huh i didn't know

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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you don't reflect the damage taken

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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it's like the reaper is attacking itself

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

#

ah

#

makes sense

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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Lmao

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

#

1 endurance makarakarn

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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nevermind amada still cracked

errant pumice Apr 24, 2024, 12:38 AM

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Kinda wished my boi Reaper would’ve appeared on Floor 2 like in the original but dev decisions.

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:39 AM

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ashen pulsar it's like the reaper is attacking itself

to support this

#

rakunda is effective because of that

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:39 AM

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But rakunda on you isn't

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:39 AM

#

yup

#

big brain strat, tarukaja the reaper

#

KEKW

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:39 AM

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okay but imagine if it did matter though

#

self-rakunda naotroll

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:39 AM

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That's honestly what I was thinking against Liz at one point

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:39 AM

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secret op strat

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:40 AM

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p3n summer dream

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:40 AM

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10 hours lets go

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Welp

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:40 AM

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big package

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Good luck

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:41 AM

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it wont be too long

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:41 AM

#

Bro 10 hours is how long I downloaded reload

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:41 AM

#

is this why people dislike unreal engine

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:41 AM

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i forgot to delete my old build

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KEKW

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:42 AM

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pros: nudemod
cons: long time.....

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:42 AM

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ashen pulsar pros: nudemod cons: long time.....

Nudemod in GFD happens too the LL guys are just lazy as fuck

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:42 AM

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i should pay them to make one for fes

#

good idea

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:42 AM

#

maaan

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:43 AM

#

Renderware nude mods

#

Like that one GTA SA modpack

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:43 AM

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hot coffee p3

#

it's coming

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:44 AM

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What other boss are you going to go with

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:44 AM

#

femcsigh

#

oh

#

i have to start over

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:44 AM

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eternaldespair

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:44 AM

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Wdym

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:44 AM

#

it was failing because i added a file that crashes the engine

#

said file made references to the table

#

i deleted everything basically

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:45 AM

#

F

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:45 AM

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gotta start over

#

wont take long

#

just 2 minutes

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Uhhh, so only full moons are going to be changed

#

Apart from the already changed ones

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:46 AM

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for now, the game has an absurd amount of gatekeepers

#

i'll get there when i get there

#

Naonod

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:46 AM

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naotopray

#

you got this

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:46 AM

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most of the gatekeepers are fine tbh

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 12:46 AM

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when they dont die in one hit yeah they are

#

thats why i wanted tiredness and theurgia reset

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:46 AM

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all they really need is player damage being reduced so they don't die instantly which phys nerfs cover somewhat

#

buff amp haxman gonna be dominating with those 4 turn charge lightning spikes fire

#

best character at all levels will be hard meta in master quest

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:47 AM

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:notgarbage_true:

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:48 AM

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can you make an fes akihiko render one

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 12:48 AM

#

give me 5$

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:48 AM

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i'll give you 5$ (in videogames)

#

naotroll

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:51 AM

#

Haxman when his better brother charges up his theurgia within just one pass and move usage at low HP

#

No joke that's how strong his charge is

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:54 AM

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iron pilot Haxman when his better brother charges up his theurgia within just one pass and ...

then he also gets a 1-more so he can use the theurgia immediately after

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:55 AM

#

Theurgia charge tierlist

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Shinjiro

#

Ken

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Akihiko

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Junpei

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:55 AM

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shinji, ken, yukari then haxman probably

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:55 AM

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Protag

#

Koro

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Yukari

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:55 AM

#

well like it depends on what factors we look at

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:55 AM

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Midsuru

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:56 AM

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remember getting an extra turn of any kind boosts the charge further

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:56 AM

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Midsuru dead last there, sadly

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:56 AM

#

and junpei gets consistent 1-mores with crits, which charge his even faster

#

so really junpei could be #2 if you have half-decent luck

#

and are running revolution

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 12:57 AM

#

iron pilot Midsuru dead last there, sadly

is that true?

#

doesn't she have inherent synergy with auto-masukunda and ambush?

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Yeah her theurgia charges up real slow

#

Theurgia charge conditions aside, her gauge charges up the least among everyone

#

You can see it in my hermit footage

#

Btw meovv are you gonna touch that

#

Charge rates

#

Protag and Koro are the middle ground

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 1:00 AM

#

amazing fucking engine

#

i literally cant edit the table anymore

#

bricked

#

even after full wipe of project

#

file simply just no longer works

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:01 AM

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Thank you Epic

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:01 AM

#

ebin games: where games are epicness

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:02 AM

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I think Mitsuru's being so low is because "debuffs are a no brainer, so it might be overtuned if she has regular charge"

#

Idk what they were cooking with Akihiko though, same fucking logic

#

Yukari got shafted with the same logic too I think

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 1:06 AM

#

???????????????

#

rebooting pc worked

#

what is this bullshit man istg

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:08 AM

#

Did you try turning it off and on again is a tried and tested method of fixing things

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:09 AM

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iron pilot Idk what they were cooking with Akihiko though, same fucking logic

haxman op

#

idk how the theurgia charge thing exactly works

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:09 AM

#

Man that picture is hilarious

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:10 AM

#

dreamy orchid idk how the theurgia charge thing exactly works

From what I can tell it's just

#

They have a base rate on regular enemies

#

And bosses

#

Then the fortune boosts it by 1.3x or someshit

#

(iirc there's an unused 1.5x one)

#

The charge condition boosts it way faster

#

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f4Bhkg0gBqUSm4YR1Bba1JsQn6w6fPDrqBTaWlHla8A/edit

Google Docs

P3R Database

Weapons

ID,Name,Equips To,Attribute,Ignore Resistances,1.5x to Downed,Attack,<- as Skill Power,Hit,Crit Mod,Ailment Type,Ailment Rate,HP,SP,St,Ma,En,Ag,Lu,Skill(s) Added
1,Shortsword,MC,Slash,38,√19.00,95,,,,,,
2,Long Wakizashi,MC,Slash,65,√32.50,95,,,,,,1,1,
3,Saber,MC,Slash,60,√30.00,95,,,,,,
...

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It's in this thing

#

Different actions and having various effects boosts it too lol

#

For full context of the numbers present, a full theurgia bar is 1000

#

Those are simply the numbers that each condition met gives

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:24 AM

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these numbers seem random lmao

#

what were they thinking

#

why does koromaru get such a big boost from weapon crits?

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:25 AM

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Technically his condition is "weakness exploitation"

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:25 AM

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wait yo

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:25 AM

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I guess they generalized it as "getting downs"

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:25 AM

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if we can edit this

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we can turn akihiko into debuff guy

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lmao

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 1:26 AM

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nah

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:26 AM

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Haxman but real?

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God that picture is still hilarious

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 1:26 AM

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i dont think the code supports that at all

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:26 AM

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Probably made by an ark ham aslume enjoyer

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 1:26 AM

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passive effects can't be applied on someone other than self lol

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debuff boost would be impossible

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:27 AM

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I think they meant his theurgia charges up faster when he uses Tarunda or debuff items

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:27 AM

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no i don't mean debuff boost

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i just mean making his theurgia charge from debuffs

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 1:27 AM

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why

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buff is inherently better

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:27 AM

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debuff fits him more

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AkariShrug

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buff is more beneficial for him as it stands tho

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yoo yukari griefed?

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gains more than other characters for low sp but never gets low on sp

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:30 AM

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This thing taught me that using Mitsuru for rakunda twice isn't a bad idea

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Well it isn't a bad idea in general but yeah this is another aspect of it

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She's fucked if she got anything else

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Gonna be honest

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:31 AM

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lmfao

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iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:31 AM

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I found some freeze strats usage but her theurgia charge being so low kinda made them unusable until the end

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:31 AM

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firm stance allows you to bypass cap??

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:32 AM

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I don't get it

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Wdym

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:33 AM

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5x cap applies, but firm stance is 0.5x

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:33 AM

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finally, a use for mastery goemon

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:33 AM

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Oh I get it

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So if an enemy has firm stance up

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And you have magic mastery build

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It's still basically 4.somethinx

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:34 AM

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it all scales separately?

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trolled

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:34 AM

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Lol

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:34 AM

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1.3x sukukaja actually isn't even real

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:34 AM

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That or it's worded that way

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:34 AM

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oh jesus that's gonna be aids to address with descriptions

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:34 AM

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have fun

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:35 AM

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what if instead

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i simply lie and say its all 1.4x naotroll

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:35 AM

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this would also imply all buffs are not 1.4x

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Theoretically, rakukaja is stronger than tarukaja

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and so is suku

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naotroll

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:36 AM

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That's hilarious actually

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I just assumed it's the same lol

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:36 AM

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go check bdjk

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:36 AM

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I tested just tarukaja

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:36 AM

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test slave

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:36 AM

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I'm busy now

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I won't be able to touch the games for the week

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:37 AM

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wait so

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is sukukaja just arbitrarily worse than other buffs?

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:37 AM

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dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:37 AM

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since its 1.3x instead of 1.4 lmao

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:37 AM

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accuracy up is worse

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but evasion up is better than tarukaja

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:37 AM

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how

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am i being dumb rn

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:38 AM

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0.7 = divided by 1.42 something

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but this means rakukaja is a lot stronger than tarukaja

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 1:38 AM

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common junpei victory?

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 1:39 AM

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Average Junpei W

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 1:39 AM

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common fortify spirit L

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hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:18 AM

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i am still rebooting my pc

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ue keeps crashing randomly or the file just becomes empty at random

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 2:20 AM

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Aw...

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Hope UE doesn't shit itself later

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:21 AM

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its so fucking random

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it was working perfectly a while ago

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p3r's also been crashing like crazy ever since i installed unreal atlus script lol

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oookay i guess the first time i had accidentally stumbled into the right way to do it

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exporting now i guess

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:29 AM

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hollow trail p3r's also been crashing like crazy ever since i installed unreal atlus script l...

same thing happened to me lol i had to disable it

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:31 AM

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ok now we wait 239874892374 hours

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:31 AM

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dreamy orchid same thing happened to me lol i had to disable it

funny thing, that

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i disabled it too

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it kept itself activated

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not even a dependency

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bro just wants to be a hater

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:31 AM

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lmfao

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yea i remember trying to fuse it, it not working at all, but also crashing my game several times

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so i just decided to not even bother lol

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:34 AM

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fucking femc

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finally

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:34 AM

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yooo

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:34 AM

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it was calcratio

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needs to be present for the other dts to load

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if not present, it legit just fucking crashes if you rename it

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or is empty if you open it

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likewise, it was crashing on build because i had a blueprint in the project

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ue hates putting cooked bps in projects!

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📎 DT_BtlCalcLevelDamageBoss.uasset 📎 FBtlCalcRatio.uasset 📎 DT_BtlCalcLevelDamage.uasset

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in THEORY

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these files remove all level scaling

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i have no fucking clue if they actually registered my edits

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i would certainly hope so

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:37 AM

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pog

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how do you even do this

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do you just drop the files into unreal engine lol?

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:37 AM

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yes but also no

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cant drop iostore stuff into ue like that

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Ryn made a special dump of the game that converted every file to the older format

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then you duplicate the file, and it becomes new format

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:38 AM

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ah

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are there any actual tutorials on this stuff

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or do you just need to be In The Know™️

atomic swallowBOT Apr 24, 2024, 2:39 AM

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Tekka

Table Editing Through UE4

Download Unreal Engine 4.27 from Epic Games Store
Download custom P3R UE4 project
Download Ryn's converted uassets
In the custom, UE4 project edit Config\DefaultEngine.ini to also include

[/Script/UnrealEd.CookerSettings]
cook.AllowCookedDataInEditorBuilds=True
s.AllowUnversionedContentInEditor=1

Open up the project in unreal engine
Right click and create folders in the editor to the path of the uasset tables you want to edit for example Xrd777\UI\Tables for DatAntiqueShopLineupDataAsset.uasset
6b. If the table you want to edit is a localized file (L10N\en\Xrd777) you'll want to create the folders without L10N\en then when you drop the uasset/uexp in step 7, you'll also want to right click the file in the editor > Asset Localization > Create Localized Asset > English
In the project's folders in File Explorer, drag and drop the uasset and uexp files from Ryn's dump (ex: DatAntiqueShopLineupDataAsset.uasset and DatAntiqueShopLineupDataAsset.uexp are dropped into P3R-Project-master\Content\Xrd777\UI\Tables
In the editor, duplicate the file that shows up by selecting it and inputting ctrl+w
Delete the original and rename the duped file to the original name
Now when you double click the file in the editor you'll be able to edit the file
To pack these files to use for modding follow this guide then you can put the outputted files directly under the UnrealEssentials folder for Reloaded mods

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hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:39 AM

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atomic swallow

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:39 AM

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Oh W

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thank you ShioHappy

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:40 AM

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OOOOH YEAH

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YEAHHH ITS WORKING LOL

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Reaper went from 1800 damage to 1100

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(level 24)

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:41 AM

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amada usable again?

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:41 AM

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maybe

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let me get pre-endgame save

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will do reaper with

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buff amp haxman

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amader

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and uhh

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mitsuru fuck it

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:41 AM

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bring koro to support haxman

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:42 AM

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koro it is

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:42 AM

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haxman needs revolution to pop off

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:42 AM

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wait

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ah

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yeah

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my koro isnt lv70

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:42 AM

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oh rip lmao

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:42 AM

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or whatever level debilishit is

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one away from

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i can force it

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:42 AM

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debilitate is 77

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:42 AM

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yeah hes 76 then

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oh we are DEAD lol

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HAXMAN PROCCED THE EVADE ICE

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LOLLLLLLLL

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BASED

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why does the fucking dog get masuku too

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:46 AM

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because he had it in FES!

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and tbf it does fit him more than it fits haxman

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give haxman tarukaja to pander to the glazers

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:47 AM

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hollow trail HAXMAN PROCCED THE EVADE ICE

HE PROCCED IT AGAIN

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LOOOOL

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SUKU TRUTHER

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ok nvm he ran away from fear

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PUSSY

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amada ran too

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pussy

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dog ran too

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oh my god

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amada boy still dies

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but the damage is very reduced

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so uh

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W

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:49 AM

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i mean like

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:50 AM

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60 vs 99

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i know

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yes

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:50 AM

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you fought with level 60 amada right

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yea

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amada got low hp too...

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 2:50 AM

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let me try with a real party

dreamy orchid Apr 24, 2024, 2:50 AM

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i'd call him a fraud but im biased

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 2:58 AM

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hollow trail HAXMAN PROCCED THE EVADE ICE

lmfao

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btw there's a fear null armor

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that's what I'd use but apparently I fucking sold it in my first playthrough save

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in practice though this means you have 2 dudes with insta heal and one dude with null fear everytime

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or even 4 if you bought the null ailments equip at that point

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 3:00 AM

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i might make reaper freeze/shockable

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 3:00 AM

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do it

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just make it resistant I think

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 3:00 AM

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fes reference

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100% shock cheese

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oh wait the fuck

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they already can be?

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theres no null here

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 3:02 AM

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huh????

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I tried mate

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freeze boosted king and I and Midsuru didn't do it

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do you mean just shock?

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lemme try

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 3:04 AM

#

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huh

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indeed

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reaper can be frozen

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has been possible since i first did reaper

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wow thats insane lol

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 3:25 AM

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you're telling me Midsuru was usable the entire time????

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 9:59 AM

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ultra troll mode

make it so you only gain xp from enemies that are strictly above your level

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troll

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(/j)

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 10:07 AM

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I wouldn't mind it ngl

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 10:08 AM

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depends on how levels work in tartarus

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if gatekeepers are below full moon level, then it's not good

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id hate being forced to do priestess at level 9 or 8 lol

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yeah

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rampage drive is L8

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automatically fucks you over for priestess i think

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jack frost would be mandatory

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since no valkyrie

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 10:49 AM

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soft level cap op

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 10:49 AM

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i'm tempted to change party member skills i'm just extremely lazy to do so because i'd have to mod menu all my saves to reflect the changes

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 10:50 AM

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do it

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 10:51 AM

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Hmmmm

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That's a tough one

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I'd say get some guinea pigs to get the feel before that kind of thing

ashen pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 10:52 AM

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you

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 10:53 AM

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It won't work with a nanjoguin run

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Lmao so not me

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:24 AM

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rebellion doesnt count for haxman does it

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for TRG boost

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:28 AM

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I think it's counted as a support spell so I think it does

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:28 AM

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Evade Strike
Single-Target Boost
Auto-Tarukaja OR Auto-Sukukaja
Charge
Herculean Strike
Gigantic Fist
Swift Strike```

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thinking which of these might benefit haxman

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:29 AM

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Single Target probably the most balanced among those

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:29 AM

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i do think saying "fuck it" and making him an evasion powerhouse would be funny

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remember acc floor is 0% in mq

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:30 AM

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Lmao

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:30 AM

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i dont really want to change the buff distribution that much

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yukari sukunda and dogbilitate are the only ones that make no logical sense to me

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not balance wise

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but characterization wise

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:31 AM

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Dog learned how to be a man from Shinjiro

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Ez gg

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:32 AM

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amadabilitate

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:32 AM

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Hmmm actually

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:32 AM

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hes already too op

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:32 AM

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Wouldn't it be good if like

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Akihiko and Ken get some skills that are also from Shinjiro

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Story wise lol

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:32 AM

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bloody charge ken LOOOOOOOL

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which shinji skills would even cross over well

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tho

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ken endure

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troll

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:33 AM

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Endure on Ken

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:33 AM

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LOL

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:33 AM

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Holy shit same braincell

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:33 AM

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ken endure is actually hax

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with how low hp he is

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"mq is a challenge mod" my ass

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TakoPepePoint

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:34 AM

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Well for Akihiko I would say Counter

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:34 AM

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lemme see what castor gets

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he gets firm stance?? LOOL

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i mean i know no one is gonna actually level him up to that point

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but LOOLLL

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM

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Or maybe Ken gets counter

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM

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he debilitates too

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damn

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM

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Yeah

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM

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doesnt he die at like level 40

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM

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That's what I meant for dog learning from him

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM

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aki should get it then

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yeah

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM

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I didn't use him first playthrough lol

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I like this the more I think of it, Makoto learns Bloody Charge from the guy

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Expanding it to Ken and Akihiko goes so hard

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:39 AM

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Fatal End - None (is slash)
Blade of Fury - None (is slash)
Heat Wave - Akihiko? Herculean Strike seems more varied since Aigis gets this
Bloody Charge - MC (Aki getting regular Charge)
Endure - Ken
Counterstrike - Akihiko
Regenerate 3 - None
Deathbound - None (is slash)
High Counter - Akihiko
Brave Blade - None (is slash)
Debilitate - Akihiko
God's Hand - Aki already has this
Akasha Arts - None, Aigis has it
Firm Stance - None, too OP

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:39 AM

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Firm Stance Mitsuru:

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:40 AM

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what gives her that

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other than reaper reward

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:40 AM

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Nah I just thought it'd be funny

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:40 AM

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ah lmao

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:41 AM

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Anyways I think AoE phys kinda steals from Akihiko's identity

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:41 AM

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single target boost haxman

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:41 AM

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Haxman

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Maybe the "he's stronger than MC" is actually true this time

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Also Fatal End was on Midsuru

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Lmfaoooo

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:44 AM

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aight i'm giving him

Counterstrike
Single-Target Boost
Charge
Debilitate```

i do really wanna give him evade strike and an auto-kaja skill too lmfao, maybe not tarukaja because it would trivialize a lot of stuff, but sukukaja definitely hilarious

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:45 AM

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Why are you writing Gigantic Fist in there

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He already has it

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Do you mean he gets it later?

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:46 AM

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my bad g i meant herculean strike but thats aoe

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so nvm

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actually auto tarukaja might be better after all

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sylphid aura is only useful early game and its Df/Ev

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haxman would be full buff midgame lmao

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:47 AM

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As much as I shit on the fact that you get auto buff equip after tziah 1

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I think it's a good balancing decision

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:48 AM

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Auto-Tarukaja
High Counter
Counterstrike
Single-Target Boost
Charge
Debilitate```

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lol

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haxman real

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poor mitsuru relegated to only being good for the 1% of enemies that can be frozen

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are gatekeepers immune to freezing

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:49 AM

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How about in exchange for that auto buff, he gets gigantic fist later

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:49 AM

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hollow trail are gatekeepers immune to freezing

Some but not all from what I can tell

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:50 AM

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iron pilot How about in exchange for that auto buff, he gets gigantic fist later

didnt you say his phys is shafted hard because of how late he gets new phys

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sonic punch is nerfed in MQ

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hed be even weaker

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:51 AM

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True, although from experience his elec has been more beneficial somehow atm lol

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:52 AM

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Elec Boost
God's Hand
Ziodyne
Debilitate
Single-Target Boost
High Counter
Charge```

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uhhhh

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yeah uh aki has some tough skill replacement choices with these changes i think

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should be easy to find the theoretical best tho

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rip evasion haxman

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:53 AM

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Haxman

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:53 AM

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well tbf

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could replace some of these passives with the gear options

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so its not all bad

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i just dont know what kind of gear combos can be done since the excel sheet is a pain to scroll through

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:55 AM

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You could make the players choose between phys or mag Akihiko by removing elec boost from his kit

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:55 AM

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lmfao imagine if charge counted for haxman's charge

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do charge

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simply just

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never use phys

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infinite boost

iron pilot Apr 24, 2024, 11:56 AM

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So the accessory slot can either be elec boost or strike boost

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Iirc being charged or concentrated will give you more boost than usual

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So it's a separate condition from being buffed

hollow trail Apr 24, 2024, 11:57 AM

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iron pilot So the accessory slot can either be elec boost or strike boost

i'd love this if making gear wasnt so fucking asssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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sh2 did it better

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