could be the camera shake
#EVTUI (Visual event editing tool)
solemn zealot
faint plinth
Huh, maybe so. I guess it'd be more dramatic for super near objects.
solemn zealot
Is this for the same value?
comparing defaults
faint plinth
Ten!?! Man!
faint plinth
Well, goddamn.
I mean, this may also be in the env.
IIRC.
So this field may have it super high specifically to block out the rafters, lmao.
solemn zealot
well this angle is completely custom so idk if there are other cases like this
faint plinth
Hmmm...
plucky berry
Do Jazz events look right offhand in the editor?
solemn zealot
(no env loads here. what even is an env exactly?)
faint plinth
Do Jazz events look right offhand in the editor?
They look reasonable, last I checked.
plucky berry
Every field has a default
But events can load other ENVs to override them
faint plinth
The env is set by default, yeah. There may be one in the assets, but if the IDs are all zero it'll pick the field's default. Or some similar logic.
faint plinth
Lmaooo, I noticed that with other pool events. Can't believe these lies....
solemn zealot
looks normal
tposing aside
mona has been STABBED by a chair... rip
oh yeah wouldnt you need to also be able to simulate flowscript for the full render?
(also a way to handle conditionals)
plucky berry
looks normal
I wonder if it’s a specific angle instead then
faint plinth
oh yeah wouldnt you need to also be able to simulate flowscript for the full ren...
Yeah, variable handling and conditional handling would be implemented together, whenever that happens. And I do plan to get a basic flow interpreter working, but that's definitely an "after the initial release" thing.
faint plinth
Apropos of nothing, I wonder if this background is supposed to be oriented relative to the camera, and the editor is missing that info 🤔
Everything else being near-pixel-perfect makes me think that background is missing something major. But 🤷
faint plinth
I'm fully spitballing here.
So I have no idea if that's true! But it's one thing worth looking into.
plucky berry
Hm
There IS a mesh flag that turns it into a billboard...
(Always facing the camera)
faint plinth
👀
Vindication!?
Do we know which flag that is? I only see it for Metaphor in GFDStudio.
plucky berry
Not offhand, though if I recall...
On the first Adam Kadmon battlefield, there's red lights on the corners of your building
And I believe those use it
I think some of the leaves on trees in the field with the Hachiko statue also use it.
plucky berry
Just some of them. Just enough that you'd never notice unless you were looking for it.
faint plinth
Why.........
I guess I'd also expect to see it in the aquarium field, etc., if it's in the one I'm guessing it is.
Principal's office, and so on.
faint plinth
I guess I'd also expect to see it in the aquarium field, etc., if it's in the on...
Hm, well, I certainly don't see anything that looks like such a flag within these field models...
solemn zealot
happy 15k messages
solemn zealot
man... one day i might just make a proper list of every (english) singleword
it would make things so much more convenient...
oh yeah, and also getting every event-only animation in the more generic animation files
ocean acorn
i mean i would think the cues themselves are the same its just the sound itself that is affected by language
solemn zealot
i mean i would think the cues themselves are the same its just the sound itself ...
probably. but i still wouldnt have what is said in japanese listed
solemn zealot
oh yeah, and also getting every event-only animation in the more generic animati...
hmmm i might just do that after i've already done my demo. in theory this stuff would help on its development, but i've been already putting the demo back for so long as well...
ajdaaa i broke it again
jolly epoch
Why's this thread suddenly dead?
solemn zealot
~~because im not doing events rn 
~~
jolly epoch
ocean acorn
uhhh i guess for conditionals > reference global bitflag, being able to see sumbits would be nice? not like required though, its not hard to just check what the summed id should be on amicitia
clever talon
the game never calls flags like that though
every instance of a flag being used in p5r is almost exclusively the section and then the flag
p5 also did that in scripts, just less "pretty"
solemn zealot
how less pretty was it
clever talon
it didnt have the 0x?00000 prefix
so it was just the section length
0 + (section 1 length) + (section 2 length) +...
ocean acorn
i said see the summed version not store it that way internally
clever talon
so itd look something like this
0 + 0x800 + 0x400 + 9
ocean acorn
my brain just likes seeing summed for some reason
solemn zealot
so itd look something like this
0 + 0x800 + 0x400 + 9
the 0 here is clearly very important for this equation
faint plinth
uhhh i guess for conditionals > reference global bitflag, being able to see sumb...
Different from the way it's done currently? Not too long ago I added an update that separates the flag section from the ID with the section. The sumbits calculation seemed like kind of a pain for not that much benefit 😅
ocean acorn
yeah i noticed while checking an event last night
faint plinth
Why's this thread suddenly dead?
I've been out touching grass and such 
solemn zealot
imagine touching grass
ocean acorn
understandable, its just my brain being weird about numbers
jolly epoch
I've been out touching grass and such <:adachi_true:1055549833710149812>
why touch grass when can touch code
solemn zealot
tbf if i had a wife i'd touch grass more often too
faint plinth
also, lookats were kicking my ass and I needed a break
solemn zealot
take your time
faint plinth
Okay, I'm losing my mind 
Could someone who knows their way around one of the executables (any P5 exe should be fine, since I know the beta builds are more readable) share the lookat calculation part of the code? I cannot for the life of me get the vertical component to work in a way that's consistent across models. I don't know why this is so much harder than the horizontal component!!
I'm doing this ^^ but I don't know if every calculation I've tried for getting the angle of elevation from the resulting ray is wrong or what....
golden willow
i could ask swine to give you access to the shared repo so you could take a look at the eboot
i'm not sure exactly what function would be useful to post in chat atm
faint plinth
Could be helpful in the long term, although it'd probably take me a while to figure out Ghidra, since I have never used it 🤐
DC seems to have found the basics based on his message I replied to just above, but I have no idea beyond that.
golden willow
the functions I've checked rn was the request function for MLa_ which sets up the initial state for lookat (mdlLookAtSetMotion), which is the only command function associated with that evt node (a lot of them usually have a tick one as well bu the tick for lookat is already handled by gfd in mdlLookAtUpdate)
this isn't a part of the game that I did any deep investigation and it was a while ago so dc would be the best source
faint plinth
Appreciate your checking, anyway 🙇 Worst case, I'll suck it up and try to get Ghidra working on the eboot, lol. Last thing I did with actual RE was try to look at the eboot with radare2 ages ago, iirc... and for some reason it fully could not analyze it at all 😔
faint plinth
...Got it up in Ghidra, but it's going to take me ages to figure out anything this way. The tantalizing references to mdlLookAt.h/c....
faint plinth
So my main issues are:
- Making sure I'm doing the right calculations for angle of elevation between the head and the target, and
- ...making sure I'm using the correct base rotation for the head.
The former should be easy enough to test given the latter being correct, but the latter is what's proving to be particularly inconsistent.
I see something along the lines of LookAtGetBaseRotation in the eboot, but no luck finding a clear function for it.
faint plinth
New strat: literally just copy from Unity's lookat/rotatetoward implementations and see how far that gets me 
amber moth
I believe in you ajda
balmy basaltBOT
you can do it 
jolly epoch
I'm gonna be working on a new event soon, are there any new features with EVTUI I should know about? 
jolly epoch
no errors, so we're good 
jolly epoch
btw the reason I'm making another event is because I decided to finally work on doing a shusumi christmas event while my friend tests my inventory mod
and I'm kinda thinking of taking some inspiration from a fanfic I read once, but it'd take so long to do
where they go ice skating
it could be so cute, but I'd have to make a new field, some ice skates, and then do some custom animations
faint plinth
A whole new field 😱
I believe in you, though 🫡
Especially now that field previewing is pretty complete.
jolly epoch
Especially now that field previewing is pretty complete.
does it work for custom fields?
also the only reason I'm thinking of attempting it is because I don't need to give it collision or anything
so it should be easier
faint plinth
Should work for any field that works in the game, init script setup stuff aside.
jolly epoch
I've never been ice skating, but looking at some pictures of them it shouldn't be a super hard field to make
but like should I do an outdoor one or an indoor one
oh hey look at this
there's one right by the skytree
faint plinth
I wonder if you could do a pseudo-field with like, a fixed image background + some props and a clear shadow-creating object in the foreground. Like basically just copy + adjust the aquarium, etc.
But maybe good 2D art is actually harder here, lol.
jolly epoch
But maybe good 2D art is actually harder here, lol.
well I'm not good at painting
if I were, I'd probably attempt that
for now I'm just going with something that looks close enough
actually I wonder if google streetview could help
if it's close enough to a street
faint plinth
I mean, the above image is a pretty great angle, tbh.
jolly epoch
it is, but it might not be the one I end up using for the event
I'd rather have a mesh
especially since 3d modeling is something I can actually do
ocean acorn
I wonder if you could do a pseudo-field with like, a fixed image background + so...
aint that already what some existing fields do lol
amber moth
yeah
faint plinth
Yeah, hence I said to just copy+edit the aquarium
ocean acorn
yea
faint plinth
But still... only easier if you actually have a way of getting good 2D field art 😅
solemn zealot
just do it in ms paint
faint plinth
Finally, P5 mspaint mod.
amber moth
The real way is to 3D model it and then make it 2D
ocean acorn
like actually i should prolly buckle down and do it real quick for that cemetery field we need for #1424140027641860176, would i just like copypaste an existing field that does this and then just change the field textures
ive never worked with fields lol
amber moth
Yeah that should work
They might have to be the same size, but I think the billboard feature for events should work regardless.
ocean acorn
yeah cus we already have a 2d image, i just edited the strikers cemetery png
oh but sky is transparent so i guess something something skybox?
amber moth
I'm fairly sure there are 2D fields with a skybox. I think the skytree is one of them.
ocean acorn
cemetery png is shaded for sunset since thats when the strikers event happens so probably a field used in an event with a similar time of day would be good
amber moth
hmm
ocean acorn
...is the bridge a png?
faint plinth
I don't actually know 🤔
faint plinth
Either way, should be entirely possible to add a node with the labels + conditions to only ever use the clear evening skybox.
amber moth
actually iirc the 2D fields don't actually have a field skybox. it's only ever used in events.
ocean acorn
like the accessway?
no the one in ann rank 10
amber moth
i'm like 90% sure it is 2d
ocean acorn
Either way, should be entirely possible to add a node with the labels + conditio...
yeah i just figure to save myself some effort if i can
jolly epoch
3d model then draw over the 3d model
some artists legit do this for perspective
but I can't draw very well anyway, so imma do it the way I actually know how
plus I can make textures too
I've mastered the art of procedural textures with blender
solemn zealot
some artists legit do this for perspective
yes, me
jolly epoch
well I didn't know you did art
I just haven't been around when you've talked about it before if you have
solemn zealot
i havent really
balmy basaltBOT
the only thing i showed: 
jolly epoch
I kinda started learning programming and blender at the same time
in my sophomore year of highschool
I'm nearly 24 btw
my gosh I graduated almost 6 years ago
faint plinth
🧓
jolly epoch
ngl
idk how much detail I should even attempt to put into the field
if I do a flat angle facing towards the skytree, I could probably get away with much less
I could also make heavy use of textures as opposed to geometrical detail to speed things up
amber moth
Something I just noticed. It seems like the cones in the back aren't correct.
I remember this being a thing in blender where the rest position is skewed and the pose position is the actual scale of the model.
solemn zealot
my favorite persona protagonist: Akaghost
faint plinth
I remember this being a thing in blender where the rest position is skewed and t...
Oh, huh...... do you know offhand what they're supposed to look like in-game?
amber moth
Yeah one sec
faint plinth
Seems like it may be a GMD parsing issue, maybe version-related, or maybe missing a flag that turns on/off some field that affects the positional data offset...
amber moth
faint plinth
Do you remember if you observed the incorrect positioning in the object model or in the field model's object node?
I'm assuming these are a field object, anyway.
amber moth
It's not an object actually, it's built into the field. But this is what I mean essentially.
faint plinth
Oh, I seeeee.
amber moth
This happens with quite a few models from what I can tell.
faint plinth
That's so weird, lmao.
solemn zealot
the hell
amber moth
Originally there was an option for fixing the scaling issue in the blender addon but it stopped working a while ago (I think when the metaphor stuff got added).
faint plinth
The Metaphor update strikes again!!
amber moth
this import setting specifically.
solemn zealot
metaphor breaking everything smh my head
amber moth
The main reason this is an issue is because of sumi funnily enough.
faint plinth
this import setting specifically.
Ooh, this is very helpful. Much like the UV issue, it'll be easier if it's just me trying to get back old functionality rather than trying to add new functionality, lol.
solemn zealot
gorgeous
amber moth
I said version twice and now I can't edit it ;-;
faint plinth
Betrayed by the link bot 
solemn zealot
how will you ever recover
amber moth
Granted I never really had an issue with the rest pose being broken. And when I did that was after it became broken (I just used a workaround). So I can't really confirm if it does.
faint plinth
I see 🤔
amber moth
I guess I can check it actually
fierce pawn
amber moth
forgot I was on 2.0. it works.
faint plinth
Well, at least this vindicates Pherakki a bit, since it's also happening in GFD.
But OK, nice. I should have enough info to get going with on debugging this.
If I do find the issue in the Blender tool code, might be a nice occasion to start a fork 🤔🤔
amber moth
Better now than later I guess
faint plinth
May as well, if it works 🤷
faint plinth
forgot I was on 2.0. it works.
Actually, does this model break in GFD, too? I feel like I'd expect it to, if the field is breaking for the same base pose scaling reason...
But I don't remember it breaking there....
So, that's odd.
amber moth
faint plinth
Thought so. Weird!
amber moth
I guess whatever import code is in the addon seems to not translate it correctly.
faint plinth
Does this mean GFD is doing scaleless rest pose for character models but not field models??
solemn zealot
go QUEEN! assert dominance on the creeps by a-posing! 🅰️ 💅
amber moth
Also, for some reason if you do the offsets for F012_029 it's the opposite from what they are ingame.
in the render view it's the left one and ingame it's the right one.
amber moth
It seems to somewhat happen in F012_027.
solemn zealot
last time i tested i was using f002_005 (shujin rooftop)
faint plinth
I did fix that recently, yeah. Unless these fields work the opposite way for some reason??
solemn zealot
last time i tested i was using f002_005 (shujin rooftop)
and what about this one?
amber moth
one sec
solemn zealot
the offsets were correct im sure
solemn zealot
a while
amber moth
just making sure
faint plinth
Possibly worth updating just to make sure?
amber moth
I think it correct
solemn zealot
oh no, we have a case in our hands
faint plinth
I think it correct
Yeah, looks like you're on an older version without the UV fix.
amber moth
oh right
thats weird, I thought I updated
okay cool it works now
the cones are still squished though so yeah it's not an update issue atleast
solemn zealot
okay cool it works now
oh thank goodness
faint plinth
Nice. The UV and field offset fixes were in the same PR, so makes sense.
jolly epoch
the cones are still squished though so yeah it's not an update issue atleast
cities always are full of the worst drivers
faint plinth
...I wonder whether the pre-Metaphor-update GFDStudio version that had the unbroken UVs also has the scaling issue with the cones 🤔
solemn zealot
cities always are full of the worst drivers
indeed i hate when city drivers cartoonishly squash cones with their bad driving
faint plinth
(cartoon splat sfx)
jolly epoch
(cartoon splat sfx)
specifically the one from Deltarune
faint plinth
You know the one.
jolly epoch
amber moth
...I wonder whether the pre-Metaphor-update GFDStudio version that had the unbro...
It's annoying because the fields can't be viewed in gfd
faint plinth
They can't?
amber moth
they just show up as blank and can't be seen no matter how much you zoom in
faint plinth
Ooh!
amber moth
faint plinth
Okay, so it really was the Metaphor update in both cases. But I guess GFD has something that smooths over the issue for character models specifically 
amber moth
No this gfd is 10.2, which the latest is 10.3
I don't think it'd be any different in older versions
jolly epoch
@amber moth that's because GFS files usually don't store textures
the textures for fields are stored in BIN files
amber moth
it's not the textures that are an issue
faint plinth
No this gfd is 10.2, which the latest is 10.3
Oh 🤔 but the cone issue persists.
faint plinth
But it is in EVTUI, which just uses GFDStudio's code.
I don't remember the exact version, but definitely something after the Metaphor update.
faint plinth
Do we have any events we could test in this field to see whether it works in EVTUI?
I guess Takemi's confidant events.
amber moth
sure one sec
jolly epoch
It's not an object actually, it's built into the field. But this is what I mean ...
I wonder if this is part of the difference between GFS and GMD files
like
GFS files are clearly used for different things despite the process of making them being basically the same as GMDs
at least on our end
but like I wonder if they do have those as props but the vertices just get combined with the brushes
faint plinth
I think GFS vs. GMD is just a suffix thing for categorization/organization purposes, tbh.
amber moth
looks fine, I don't see any issues.
faint plinth
So I guess that field's issue in blender is unrelated to the scaling thing.
jolly epoch
I think GFS vs. GMD is just a suffix thing for categorization/organization purpo...
the formats are identical, but I think GFS files were probably made in an in-house level editor while GMDs were made with traditional modeling tools
faint plinth
Maybe so.
amber moth
So I guess that field's issue in blender is unrelated to the scaling thing.
Maybe, but they both have exactly the same issue. This whole thing is really odd.
faint plinth
solemn zealot
looks fine, I don't see any issues.
there is an issue.
best girl aint there ||im /j'ing i know she's an npc||
amber moth
she is actually
jolly epoch
there *is* an issue.
best girl aint there <:pensivekechi:766785714201034832> |...
I didn't know Sumi hung out at the clinic
solemn zealot
just in the other room
well i cant see her so does she even exist
schrodingers' woman
jolly epoch
more of an object permanence thing
faint plinth
looks fine, I don't see any issues.
Wait, actually, I think the issue would still be out of frame here. It was the window to outside, not the front desk that looked odd.
solemn zealot
I didn't know Sumi hung out at the clinic
she's studying to be a veterinary duh(...why can i kinda see it?)
amber moth
doing the scaleless rest pose option does fix it.
jolly epoch
she's studying to be a veterinary duh(...why can i kinda see it?)
because Sumi's sweet and would definitely love animals
amber moth
Wait, actually, I think the issue would still be out of frame here. It was the w...
no the door frame is still there
faint plinth
Ah, hm.
amber moth
it's ripped off in this image
faint plinth
Yeah, this is all really weird 
amber moth
I think we need to kill atlus
solemn zealot
because Sumi's sweet and would definitely love animals
ocean acorn
they just show up as blank and can't be seen no matter how much you zoom in
u tried rotating?
solemn zealot
what if its just shy
amber moth
I mean i'm sure it's there. I think it's just too big to be viewed in gfd or something
solemn zealot
big model problems
amber moth
I'm not sure why, but for some reason my text edits aren't saved. They show up in game, but then reopening EVTUI it gets replaced with the vanilla BMD
faint plinth
The eternal jank 😩
amber moth
faint plinth
What's the location of the saved file within your mod directory?
amber moth
P5REssentials\CPK\EN.CPK\EVENT_DATA\MESSAGE\E700
jolly epoch
What's the location of the saved file within your mod directory?
wouldn't it just default to EN.CPK anyway?
could be a duplicate though
faint plinth
Is it using BMDEmu or no?
amber moth
I'm not
faint plinth
Hmmm 
amber moth
Like it saves correctly and the game reads it, but it just doesn't show back up in the editor.
faint plinth
What files are the logs showing on event load?
For once this should definitely be info that's in the logs, lmao.
Huge.
amber moth
faint plinth
...or not
Is it printing to the console, then? This stuff definitely gets printed somewhere.
amber moth
i'll check
faint plinth
Should just be a bunch of filepaths in a row.
amber moth
it does not look like it's being printed.
to be clear you mean the git bash console right?
faint plinth
I'd assume there if not in the logs, yeah.
amber moth
only release, I could try debug. How do you build debug versions?
faint plinth
dotnet run is all it takes for me.
faint plinth
Oh, then that's weird.
amber moth
I think it was happening before I updated too. So I guess it could be something file related instead?
faint plinth
I definitely don't think it's a new issue, but it is hard to debug without being able to see what paths are actually being loaded.
I suppose it could have been from the file management overhaul a few updates back, but script jank has always been an issue, so hard to say.
amber moth
I should've made a backup EVTUI before the overhaul
faint plinth
You should be able to build from the commit just before that.
amber moth
Which one was the overhaul, and what would be the command to build from a commit?
oh I see
faint plinth
Should be this commit: https://github.com/DarkPsydeOfTheMoon/EVTUI/commit/d9ea8b8863954a3a01f0036b378edcf88267e30f
Or, well the one before that, since this is the one with the file loading overhaul.
So, I guess this one: https://github.com/DarkPsydeOfTheMoon/EVTUI/commit/2830215f5844ee1c94544bd00572400c804eb8d5
amber moth
You do git checkout and then the commit right?
faint plinth
Yes, I believe so.
faint plinth
I bwoke it
amber moth
i'll check 61 just to make sure
faint plinth
Well, good find. Maybe I should take a break from being beaten to death by quaternions and start to fix message jank for real....
solemn zealot
Well, good find. Maybe I should take a break from being beaten to death by quate...
take as much time as you need 
amber moth
yeah 61 did break it
jolly epoch
Well less of a beating atleast
you make it sound like we're beating ajda up
^us to ajda
faint plinth
I'm surprised the most recent still has the issue, since I fixed a different issue related to scripts but I guess that was in emulation mode, so this is different.
faint plinth
https://tenor.com/view/kunleinho-kunleinhogifs-family-guy-beating-assault-gif-20...
Lookats @ me
solemn zealot
lookats at @ at me
solemn zealot
ryuji that's rude
ocean acorn
let him have this
faint plinth
A guy can't even become one with his bowl of ramen anymore....
ocean acorn
hm, render crashes readonly mode
ocean acorn
oh, okay e764_101 crashed out of readonly mode when i looked at render after glancing at a bunch of previews
(i was trying to figure out what object asset 14, an item, was supposed to be, but preview was seemingly empty and i didnt catch anything of note when render was open)
although here look at the funni model stacking
does. does this actually exist
faint plinth
Sometimes the EVT refers to item models that don't actually exist 🤷 I usually assume that means it existed during dev and got removed but that the game's engine ignores it if that happens. Buuut there could always be something else going on.
If anything, it might refer to the next object with a smaller ID? So 7738_001 in this case, I guess. But that'd also be weird, even if consistent with how the game usually handles missing assets.
ocean acorn
idr any object being in the invite version of the event thatd change depending on the party member invited, so i feel like it prolly is just nothing
although still weird, esp when i did find a command or two referencing it and they bothered putting an EVT_ASSET_OVERWRITE for it in the init script (that also changes it to a nonexistent model lol)
theres a nonzero chance i clog this channel with akechi movie date mod yapping
(thats why i was looking at this event lol, im making them watch the duhvengers since that seems to be the one they spend the whole damn movie talking during in mementos mission)
(dont think i could steal the dialogue though unless i want to adapt whole ass chapters of that manga to game events :V)
(its probably gonna be him bitching about character arcs or something lol)
(also idk which month of the game to put the invite in)
faint plinth
I feel like over the summer makes the most sense in terms of the confidant (the weird Summer Fling timeline of it all...), but that probably isn't how the manga does it, if you want to preserve any aspect of that 🤔
solemn zealot
~~theres a nonzero chance i clog this channel with akechi movie date mod yapping...
you say that like its a bad thing
ocean acorn
I feel like over the summer makes the most sense in terms of the confidant (the ...
the manga is most of the reason theyre watching duhvengers in specific, im kinda unclear when it is in the timeline since i just kinda read that chapter and the one before it but right before that is basically the entire pts sans oracle and violet on a fishing trip which would be consistent with november?? that feels weird though
but then ren does talk in code about "hey wouldnt you rather be free of this conspiracy bullshit," so...
faint plinth
P5 tie-in media all overloads November sooo much 😭
Like WHEN are we finding time for all that, lads... this month is already crazy....
Maybe you could replace the night-before jazz club invite with this?
And maybe there's one over the summer that the scene can call back to?
(The night-before jazz club invite is forever wild to me, lol)
ocean acorn
"im alone right now"
faint plinth
"heyyyy, gonna kill you tomorrow, jazz club tonight queen??"
So, yeah, my initial vote is "one event in the summer that's got the carefree tone of their weird summer fling" and "one event that replaces his 11/19 jazz club invite and is a poignant callback to that"
ocean acorn
i forgor there was a jazz invite in november
faint plinth
Literally the night before it all goes down 😭
ocean acorn
but also wouldnt it be 11/18 since 19 is the actual bossfight
faint plinth
Oh, might be 11/18, true.
I just know it was right before having to go do the thing.
And then was just like a regular jazz club trip? Lmao.
ocean acorn
or wait 11/17 since on 18 you have card and also maruki rank 10
solemn zealot
yall remember the specific dates?
ocean acorn
for some things
...wait actually what month of the game is duhvengers out for lol
and do the existing movie invites even respect the movie schedule :V
faint plinth
~~or wait 11/*17* since on 18 you have card and also maruki rank 10~~
I think it was the 18th, though 🤔
ocean acorn
hold on i literally bookmarked a playlist by that guy who played the game at a rate of 1 day per day so i could check these sorts of things for fanfic purposes
why did i not immediately jump to that
solemn zealot
...wait actually what month of the game is duhvengers out for lol
and do the exi...
funnily enough, a lot of things in persona dont really have an schedule. they can just happen whenever (love when a slink is like "soon it'll be x important event", fastforward months later, and the character is still as nervous about the event that is going to start 'soon')
tbf acceptable break from reality for gameplay
ocean acorn
no yeah im remembering 11/18 right
solemn zealot
hold on i literally bookmarked a playlist by that guy who played the game at a r...
1 day per day??? 😭
ocean acorn
some people are fuckin weird man lmao
solemn zealot
who isnt
ocean acorn
faint plinth
There we go, yeah.
amber moth
can't you just search the dialogue and retrace it from there?
solemn zealot
search for messages in the bmd dump containing topics of movies and find the file it came from
then see the corresponding flow thingie
ocean acorn
i know the ids of the chat invites themselves but ctrl+fing for CALL_CHAT_ARRIVAL(805) gives me nothing
clever talon
i have some very (bad) news for you!
chats and hangout events are stored/read from counters
ocean acorn
yeah i was gonna say
clever talon
idr the count but youd have to search for the relevant count to be set to 805
ocean acorn
i figured it was probably written to a variable which was then passed to CALL_CHAT_ARRIVAL and/or a count was involved
why is it every time i need to do a regex i fogor how to write one and need to look it up
clever talon
hangout events are stored wholly in the count and then math is involved
(cus they have to split the upper 3 and lower 3 numbers for the event major/minor id)
ocean acorn
oh right fakenitro broked
oh thank god i found someone uploaded the movie invites as youtube videos https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLILRkcpXHATTZ_eco23N5jBOxKdx2_i7F
oh but these seem to be for og, i feel like they probably didnt move much but idk
...i feel like i probably did at least one in my playthrough, if so its probably in my calendar somewhere
ocean acorn
AHA, day specific scheduler function ==> sdl_Coop_Holiday_Invite ==> CALL_EVENT(780, 6) ==> this procedure
...now to figure out how CMM_HOLIDAY_INVITE_CHATNO works
wait wot
solemn zealot
lmaaao i forgor i was messing around with evtui when we first got the render and i had saved this 😭
yuri jumpscare
"i know the feeling" gee i wonder why
jolly epoch
I'm thinking
maybe an angle like this for the event?
haven't worked much on the map, so there's not much to it yet
and idk where I can save time by just using textures and HDRIs yet
I think the only actual reflective surface will be the ice though, the glass won't be
loosely based on this image still, can't find a better angle for one unfortunately
amber moth
looks nice so far
amber moth
and idk where I can save time by just using textures and HDRIs yet
I mean iirc most of the field textures are pics of real buildings with a filter over them.
you could probably find similar looking textures and you can just reuse them.
jolly epoch
my angle was way off lol
this might be closer
that cube is just gonna be a tent or something eventually
the rest of the background I might just be lazy and use a dome texture for
plus I don't want to try to test GFD's limits so I'd rather use as few 3d objects as possible
the frame for the sky tree itself was easy at least
just a cylinder with some modifiers
I'll have to apply them and convert the text to a mesh before I export, but I'm leaving it like this for now since modifiers are easier to tinker with
anyway, superbowl's about to start so I need to get off my computer since my family will probably kick me off soon anyway
ocean acorn
loosely based on this image still, can't find a better angle for one unfortunate...
i think itd be funny to use the image as-is lol
faint plinth
I'm not sure why, but for some reason my text edits aren't saved. They show up i...
Alas, I cannot recreate this 
But this did help me realize that I got rid of the file paths being logged at extraction/setup (or, more accurately, failed to preserve them in the overhaul), which is definitely something that needs to be added back.
amber moth
Weird that you can't recreate it, but good that it helped you out.
faint plinth
What the--
rocky kelp
t h e h o l e
solemn zealot
looks sick
solemn zealot
t h e h o l e
faint plinth
I just want to see the Odaiba field 😭 Why is the eternal void here....
solemn zealot
thats just odaiba irl
amber moth
Alas, I cannot recreate this <:femcsigh:752266148187209840> But this did help me...
So good news, I guess maybe my version was bad because I reinstalled the latest and it works now. Genuinely no idea.
wait
hmm
faint plinth
amber moth
so my custom event works, but the non custom events don't.
faint plinth
Huh. I guess it's prioritizing the existing file over the modded one.
I wonder if the sorting logic is somehow platform-dependent??
That would be.......... annoying.
If you move the modded BMD for a non-custom event into a custom CPK directory (i.e., not EN.CPK), does it show up in the script selection dropdown?
faint plinth
OK, yeah, between that and the "shows up in game but not in-editor," it definitely seems to be prioritizing showing you the game copy rather than the mod copy. But why 🤔
amber moth
every copy of EVTUI is personalized
faint plinth
True...
solemn zealot
never had this problem
faint plinth
It's only happening recently when not using BMD emu, apparently.
And also only on Windows, I guess? But it might be a bit stochastic.
solemn zealot
oh a new word
faint plinth
"Okay maybe if I mess with the bone matrices a bit I can get at the scaling and--OH GOD"
amber moth
spooky p5r
solemn zealot
this is the future italians want
faint plinth
Finally... Paper Persona: The Thousand-Year Door....
amber moth
morgana😭
weary pelican
Finally... Paper Persona: The Thousand-Year Door....
About time
solemn zealot
P5 if it was good
north cave
Finally... Paper Persona: The Thousand-Year Door....
Suddenly paper mario
jolly epoch
I think I'm just gonna finish up my inventory mod before I even finish the custom field since I'm not gonna be done in time for valentine's day anyway
and I keep just wanting to improve the inventory mod
I'm gonna make one last change to the UI and then just look for mouse controls in the game
anything that could clue me in on how to unlock the mouse
solemn zealot
Bump
I really am starting to want to work on events again. I think for my demo i only have one more of haru and 3 of the kamoshida's will seeds left?
If i dont just decide that i acrually want to make a bazillion more events out of nowhere like i often do
jolly epoch
@faint plinth can I DM you a zip of my mod for the linux test btw?
faint plinth
<@572321426456182794> can I DM you a zip of my mod for the linux test btw?
...I don't have a setup right now 😅 Probably quicker to ask raven.
rocky kelp
I'll test it out tomorrow
jolly epoch
I'll test it out tomorrow
it doesn't work in the test field btw
you have to go through New Game or load a save
rocky kelp
ok
solemn zealot
bumping this back to my thread list
solemn zealot
holy why did this one take so long to open
patent pier
huh...
ocean acorn
got bored, tried making that jpeg background cemetery field we need for restored events, dont know what im doing, got a crash somehow
like somehow this does not seem correct :v
also are these not implemented or is my thing out of date
ocean acorn
i tried messing with camera values via the slider but um. i dont think theyre supposed to be this large
original values by comparison
it always gives an int value too
ocean acorn
i pulled up the diet building field which i used as base for this, changed the camera coords to match an event that uses said field, and uhhh that sure is a big fat gfd default texture
solemn zealot
probably doing adult things tbh
ayo
ocean acorn
tbf this much is probably just skill issue from me but eh
faint plinth
probably doing adult things tbh
Yeah 🥲
Been verrrry busy. Hopefully I'll get it under control soon, but a full time job + a small business + a wife and three cats and family visits does not leave much time for any hobbies 🥹
rocky kelp
oh wow you're really girl bossing it up
ocean acorn
...progress?
rocky kelp
I know ajda just said she's busy but I'd really like bmd emulator to be fixed because I really don't like writing the bmd in evtui then copy pasting my stuff to a separate msg bc the evt would see a blank message so I have to do the compiled version
it should be an easy fix, right?
something like first look at edited msg, if msg command is blank look at original bmd
pure folio
Is EVTUI only able to edit events within a cpk file? I want to edit one added by rose & violet, but I can't just open the EVT file within the mod folder, it seems?
jolly epoch
Is EVTUI only able to edit events within a cpk file? I want to edit one added by...
it tends to prioritize CPK events, but it is possible to edit custom ones with it too
I think one of the ways I got it to work was by setting it to the ID of an existing event in the CPK
and then changing it to the ID I wanted after
solemn zealot
you can open any event, even ones with new IDs
you have to set the directory to the root folder of the mod
pure folio
Thanks! A little janky but I think it's working
ocean acorn
its annoying when you bring config folders into the mix since it only reads from mod folder's p5ressentials folder but yea otherwise just chuck mod root at it
rocky kelp
Is EVTUI only able to edit events within a cpk file? I want to edit one added by...
yeah, just duplicate a file and give it a name that isn't taken. i'm not sure you can make one from complete scratch (yet)
solemn zealot
theoretically you could but theres no reason
pure folio
Just want to say this tool is amazing! I got an event edit mostly working on the first test thanks to this
sacred musk
Is that the one for your kasumi mod
sacred musk
ah
pure folio
What happens when two mods try to edit the same event? Does the lower mod overwrite or does it error like with flowscripts?
sacred musk
Afaik the lower mod overwrites it, but if two mods have the same edit the same scheduler it crashes
solemn zealot
you sure there isnt scheduler merging?
pure folio
yeah the scheduler is just a list of functions that need hooks to edit
theres no scheduler merging because of that afaia
clever talon
it should work with standard flowscript merging
ocean acorn
the scheduler is just a series of bfs that you can emulate like any other bf
i wouldve made that a reply if i knew id get ninjad
clever talon
solemn zealot
<:dojima_false:1055549867331686571> the scheduler is just a series of bfs that y...
a series of boyfriends?
ocean acorn
editing the same procedure of the same bf fails but thats true of all bf emulation not just scheduler
pure folio
Thats what I meant, two mods cant hook the same one
trim ridge
I completely forgot how to reinstall this.
Anyone mind giving me a hand?