P3P (PC) QOL Collection + recommended mod list

[whole tusk]

I'm kinda thinking of potentially putting together a CEP-style modpack for P3P PC. Obviously the PC port has some... serious issues, which is the whole reason why I think a modpack that packs everything together would be helpful (for example, HD audio SFX only works if no mods edit init.bin).

I know not many people care about P3P, but it still offers FEMC, something that a lot of people clearly miss from P3R. So I kinda figured that putting together a modpack to make it easy to experience P3P 2023 in the best way possible would be nice for anyone who is interested in that, and I don't think it'd be an overwhelming amount of work.

This is kind of an expanded version of this, which I had originally suggested to only merge together 3 mods (wow this embed is ass)

Brawler

I had given someone a guide on manually merging but at this point I almost wonder if it would be best to make some sort of P3P modpack that just has everything merged together beforehand lmao

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#PS2 Fes Sound Effects Mod

Brawler

To give an example: P3P Localization Fixes edits init.bin by editing two files (init\datMsg.pak\datSkillCardHelp.bmd and init\datMsg.pak\datSkillHelp.bmd).

1. Open init.bin in Amicitia (link can be found in #1062319573472383006)
2. Select the file you want to replace, right click, and select Replace (attached image)
3. Navigate to your install of Localization Fixes (it will probably be in Reloaded-II\Mods\p3ppc.battlelocalizationfixes) and find the correct file. In this case, the files are located in p3ppc.battlelocalizationfixes\FEmulator\PAK\init.bin\init\datMsg.pak. Select that file and click Open.
4. Repeat for any other files from either Localization Fixes or any other mods.
5. On the top left, click on File -> Save.
6. Copy this file into a mod using the correct file path. You can use HD Audio SFX for reference (place init.bin in P5REssentials\CPK\umd0).
7. Delete the init.bin folders in your enabled mods. That way, the init.bin you repacked is the only one being loaded. Note that if any of those mods are updated, you will need to repeat step 7 for those mods.

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#HD SFX mod isn't working

[loud plover]

stole this from @proud roost but a list of mods that could go in this pack (provided we get permission from everyone involved) could include:

FEMC specific

• Female Orpheus Telos
• Better FEMC fusion spells

QOL Features

• Manual Skill Inheritance
• Dorm Weekend Improvements
• Go Back Home Easily
• Field QOLs
• Find a Friend
• Easier Item Quests
• Improved Rescuing

Fixes

• Fix Slow Messages
• Shortened Intro(?)
• Config Clarity+

Overhauls

• QOL Collection
• Better FEMC Fusion Spells
• Cutscenes Restored (male, female)
• Skill Fusion Spells
• Sharp Pixel Backgrounds De-dithered

Audio

• High Quality Music Pack
• Add It's Going Down Now and Pull The Trigger as advantage music (aka basic music expansion mod)
• BGME Framework

Portraits

• Confident Akihiko AOA
• Clean Bustups: Faithful

Interface

• Colorful Skills
• Colorful Cut-ins Alt Kotone
• Colorful AOA Alt Kotone
• Controller UI Overhaul
• Visible Rankup Ready
• Social Stat Tracker

Menus

• New FEMC Title Screen Art
• Title Screen Fix+

Cheats

• Social Link Cheat Sheet
• Classroom Cheat Sheet
• Gift Cheat Sheet
• Early Compendium
• Convenient Completion
• Guaranteed Item Drop
• Exp Share
• Change Party in Tartarus

[proud roost]

making a singular download so people get the most out of the port would definitely help the average user

[proud roost]

though i do like the idea of having a Red vs Blue sorta idea for two versions

[loud plover]

I think something like that could just be handled with a config

[proud roost]

just because there’s some mods that edit the same thing but are obviously tailored towards femc players

yeah yeah

[loud plover]

which P4G CEP does not do but I could :p

[proud roost]

yeah configuration options would be good

[green island]

wouldn't Manual Inheritance would be in that

[proud roost]

yeah that's already in there as part of essentials

that's like THE mod to add

P3F model port project would also be good but you'd have to get permission from Pio and everything

i haven't really considered any music mods but we definitely want to aim for more improvements and QOL rather than personal taste

[loud plover]

indeed. honestly I can't reallyyyyy think of any music mods that are necessary besides HQ music

[proud roost]

maybe a simple mod to add it's going down now as a advantage track for MC

and pull the trigger as an advantage track for femc

[loud plover]

perhaps...

could be a config option

[proud roost]

kinda crazy that there's really only a single battle portraits mod

[loud plover]

i dont have contact with pio so if you wanna ask.....

[proud roost]

no ones thought to make P4AU portraits but for P3P?

[loud plover]

no bc they wear different clothing

[proud roost]

oh true

[native geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/vtuber-hololive-ホロライブ-hologra-ホロぐら-gif-25560118

did the movie events project ever finish?

[proud roost]

i don't think so

a lot of stuff was made for P3P PSP or something

[green island]

it was kinda done for just one route

anyways how about colorful cut in and stuff

[loud plover]

okay let me reword it LMAO, I don't think I could think of one that fits a vanilla+ pack besides maybe what bonq suggested

[proud roost]

part of interface

[loud plover]

no, I think purpa was interested in going back to it but I'm not sure what the progress of that is

[proud roost]

we're also definitely open to making additional mods to go along with it in case other people have ideas

i have a lot of ideas but they might not fall under QOL or outright improvements

[loud plover]

I'm also looking for a name for this pack bc I don't want people to think this is associated with CEP too lol

just to avoid any questions being erroneously sent over to them

speaking of purpa... @tardy widget @light blaze hi do you guys remember me kinda talking about the idea of merging HD audio SFX + localization fixes + useful descs? I decided it would be worth expanding further. would you guys be interested in this

[green island]

wait wot

[light blaze]

yeah I remember

[proud roost]

Persona 3 Polish??

that sounds weird

but like polish as in improvement

idk man

[green island]

uh no

I'd think of the polish meme

[loud plover]

lmaooo

[proud roost]

polish people always ruining things

[light blaze]

Persona 3 Poland 🇵🇱

[loud plover]

persona 3 reload if it was good:

[native geyser]

community improvements ✨ pack

[light blaze]

https://youtu.be/uAZFK3fXp4A?si=AfdZoUVX2H0KbapQ

[loud plover]

I'm pretty sure pixel wouldn't mind either way, it's more of I want to make it clear that this isn't the same team

[proud roost]

P3Perfect

[proud roost]

i remember pixel asking setsuna to change the splash screen of their mod pack because it was the same as CEP lol

[whole tusk]

Pixelguin

Any chance you could tweak the splash image a bit more or otherwise make it clear to users your project isn't associated with CEP?
I don't want your users or ours becoming confused as to the relationship between the two 👍

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#p4-modding-chat

[native geyser]

pixel has cep trademarked in us, eu still pending

[light blaze]

I’m down to make a splash screen/thumbnail for the pack, all we really need is the name

I alr got an idea lmaoo

[proud roost]

maybe we can replace the Atlus and CRIware screens at the beginning lmao

[light blaze]

we def can

[loud plover]

perfect

this is it

the real reason I accepted mod, so that I could pin shit in my concept threads

[light blaze]

TRUE!

[proud roost]

this will be our CBT

[loud plover]

LMAO god

I think I might leave other people to think of a name lmao, I'll work on getting a list of mods together and then asking for permission

[green island]

Fuuker

Yamagishit

[light blaze]

SEES Enhancements..?

or maybe Kirijo Enhancements

idfk, kinda hard to thnk of something better than FUCK

[green island]

you can

wdym

[proud roost]

.

[green island]

just like

[light blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCRRX31uBmI

[green island]

is this a threads thing wtf

[proud roost]

damn the new UI is so shit

so glad i haven't updated my app

[loud plover]

the new UI is dogass i'm so sorry 😭

I found your mod list though

[light blaze]

idk, I clicked the "See all pinned messages." option and they popped up fine

[proud roost]

P3F Camera too?

nah it's more upwards rather than at an angle

[loud plover]

nah I'm not a fan of P3F camera

the problem is that the camera clipping works differently in P3P so the walls get in the way with that mod

[proud roost]

Fix Slow Messages is good for the 99% of people who play at 60+ FPS

[loud plover]

all arcade machines always is a good mod but it does trivialize the P3P stat grind... hmm

[proud roost]

fix slow messages is only for system messages

i think some of my mods might have slow messages lmaoooo

[light blaze]

yeah me neither, idk why but the cam in P3F and the P3F Camera mod look completely different

[proud roost]

i forget how the PC mod actually addresses that issue

[abstract drum]

☝️

a handful of system messages in the game (IE selecting a persona from their stats screen) display WAYYYYY slower & don't let you button mash through them at 60+fps which is what Fix Slow Messages is, well, fixing; it doesn't touch anything else bc the rest of the messages in the game don't have that issue lol

[proud roost]

Shortened Intro and Simple No Ken Romance for obvious reasons

[loud plover]

if you switch your Persona the text is slow af iirc

[loud plover]

what does shortened intro do specifically?

[light blaze]

yk I forgot that I made shortened intro until rn☠️

[proud roost]

when I was testing less time for Maya, it took a very long time to load and so it hung the same way, but if you just waited a little bit, it would merge properly.

[proud roost]

changes the text at the beginning of new game from 8 sentences to one

[loud plover]

gotcha

[proud roost]

basically it adds all this info about it being for girls or returning veterans

[proud roost]

just saw this and i don't think there's anything i can do

[light blaze]

it gets rid of all the yapping abt P3P features n shit and just displays the "Select a Protagonist" prompt

[abstract drum]

Yeah; here's the comparision video for the difference in speed between FSM and the vanilla game lmao lmao

[proud roost]

can't do soft hooking because what i change is at the bottom of the procedure

[light blaze]

very annoying if you're running a new game everytime to test smth in the beginning of the game

[loud plover]

I will set up as many mods for merging as possible. stuff like HD audio SFX though, can't do anything about those

blame P3P 2023

[proud roost]

yeah we'll definitely need to update some mods for merging

[abstract drum]

(you can't tell from the visuals alone but i promise you i was MASHING THE SHIT out of the A button when recording the "vanilla" footage, it genuinely won't let you skip through those messages )

[proud roost]

i don't even think that cutscene restored uses merging lol

merging actually breaks it

[loud plover]

that's why I wanted to have a modpack together, to have as few extra mods required as possible that could fuck with merging

merging does indeed break it

why?

we just don't know

[proud roost]

apparently having the init.bin itself makes it sound right

but having it merged makes it sound bad

[loud plover]

atLus moment

[proud roost]

it would be nice to have a few wip mods finished up for this

like swines costume chooser

and all the costume mods mudkip made

[loud plover]

agreed

[light blaze]

we can prolly add those in the future, with their permission ofc lol

[loud plover]

yeah true

[proud roost]

better femc fusion spells maybe 🥺

i'm pretty proud of that one

[loud plover]

correct

[light blaze]

that shit is peak man

[loud plover]

ok well whatever the case we need a decent name for this mod because Fuuka's Ultimate Custom Kit is not the best name even if the acronym is appropriate

lol

[proud roost]

maybe replace custom with community

and kit with something else

[loud plover]

uhhhhh I'll get there once I get permission lol

I was thinking sharp dedithered

[proud roost]

yeah sharp dedithered is the better one

i would say to make that a separate download though because it's fucking massive

it made my cache go up to like 9 gigs

[abstract drum]

a small price to pay for better backgrounds

[proud roost]

Fuuka's Ultimate Convenience Kollection

i got 73

[proud roost]

or i guess just collection itself

FUCC

[loud plover]

we're really dedicated to keeping Fuuka's Ultimate.... huh

[proud roost]

someone suggested something about Kirijo Group which i liked too

[light blaze]

Koromaru's Ultimate Modpack

KUM for short!!!

[proud roost]

Kirijo's Ultimate Modpack

[light blaze]

Chidori

Chihiro

uhhh

think that's it

[loud plover]

😭

[proud roost]

we're all so mature

[light blaze]

Persona 3 Portable Extreme Enhancements

or P3Pee

[loud plover]

reference?

[proud roost]

Persona 3 Portable Enhancements and Adjustments Kit

P3Peak

[loud plover]

no

[light blaze]

FEMC's Bad Fur Day

I'm actually down to call it that lmaooo

[loud plover]

Community Ultimate Modpack

god I hate names

[light blaze]

we might get a C&D from pixel tho💔 💔 💔

[loud plover]

wxnder and rena probably remember how long it took for me to think of a good name for anime music expansion

😭

[green island]

cum harder

[loud plover]

see I like CBT bc it is representative of modding that game. I would love to have something similar </3

[native geyser]

so you're saying this is representative of your experience with P3P

[green island]

brawler cum on p3p modding?

[proud roost]

going back to that soggy biscuit chat again aren't we

[light blaze]

Community's Best Tweaks

[loud plover]

I hate it here

I do but they do not care for P3P i'm pretty sure

well maybe they do actually let's see

[light blaze]

Junpei's Incredible and Zany Zedits

I kinda like FUCK tho, but CUM is funny too

[native geyser]

yall really want to tell people to download brawler's CUM for the best P3P experience?

[light blaze]

yes!!!

[loud plover]

anyways I'll let other people think of some actual names 😭 i'm gonna go look at mods in the meantime...

STOPPPPPPP

[green island]

fun police

[ebon shore]

I haven't followed the whole conversation but if you're serious about the modpack maybe don't call it CUM or some meme like that. It's probably not the kind of thing you'd want to tell people to download (CBT is an exception, I know)

[ebon shore]

🫠

You can do what you want, it's just a suggestion

[proud roost]

why i suggested P3Peak 😔

[loud plover]

I was not planning on actually using a name like that LMAO, if it doesn't have the same energy as CBT then I'd rather not

[light blaze]

piss is one of them

[green island]

ah yes, PISS

[light blaze]

lovely name

[proud roost]

me having to tell people to use French American Game Decrypter to mod P4G Vita knowing the creators worked backwards from the word they wanted 😔

[ebon shore]

Anyway, on the topic of the actual mod pack, when you've said it'll be one mod do you mean you'll manually merge everything into one package or have one mod with dependencies on everything else?

[loud plover]

the former

kinda like what CEP does

[ebon shore]

I personally don't like the idea of one mod if you can avoid it...

[loud plover]

I know with some mods, it's unavoidable (thanks P3P audio)

[proud roost]

would one mod with a bunch of dependencies work?

that would probably be best so you don't have to update the entire thing for a small change

[ebon shore]

You remove a lot of user agency that way and will probably end up with compatibility issues

[proud roost]

we will have to force merge a bunch of mods that don't have merging yet

[loud plover]

in that case then yeah maybe the pack is just one mod with dependencies, but anything that needs to be manually merged could be merged as part of the download

[ebon shore]

That was just an idea off the top of my head. I don't think you should actually do that (at least not without some thought), you come to the same problem of forcing every mod on users unless they remove the dependencies which is less intuitive than just disabling the mods

[loud plover]

hmm what would you suggest?

[ebon shore]

What specifically neeeds to be manually merged?

[loud plover]

anything in init.bin

[proud roost]

scratch that

those are fine

[ebon shore]

tbh I don't really have a good solution other than adding some more advanced modpack support to Reloaded which would probably be a lot of work

[loud plover]

the original idea I had was to merge HD audio SFX, useful descriptions, localization fixes.
but then it was like... oh well wouldn't people just like to have one single modpack just to make it easier?

[light blaze]

lowkey it'd be cool if we had a custom program or site that allows the user to select which parts to merge but that's a lot of work

[ebon shore]

It'd be much better if we just didn't have to merge stuff manually at all... Is all of that stuff that should in theory work with pak emulator and stuff but just doesn't?

[loud plover]

the issue is HD audio SFX doesn't work with merging bc P3P PC handles sound funny

[light blaze]

the audio quality gets crushed for some unknown reason

[proud roost]

yeah the biggest thing is that you can't merge into existing archives like you can with aemulus

right?

[native geyser]

can you not use FEmu?

[loud plover]

no

[proud roost]

femulator makes it sound bad

[ebon shore]

Well the real solution would be to fix that, that's a bug as far as I'm concerned

[proud roost]

using init.bin makes it sound right

[loud plover]

well

[native geyser]

🤔

[ebon shore]

You shouldn't have to do these workarounds

[loud plover]

I think the more accurate way to say it

is that using pak emu for HD audio SFX causes the audio quality to get crushed down to vanilla p3p levels, whereas leaving it in as a bin improves the sound quality

if you take init.bin from p3p 23, make that a mod, it will improve the sound quality

[native geyser]

maybe it'd work better with ryo

[loud plover]

as far as I know, no one has ever figured out why, it seems to be some weird behavior with P3P's audio playback

it seems like an issue with the game itself, not Persona Essentials

[native geyser]

i think p3p loads audio with SetFile, considering it can load loose bgm files just fine

and you usually need to set the right audio info before playing

[loud plover]

even then it's like... I think it would be nice to have a dedicated modpack for P3P, even ignoring the original intent that led to this post, because CEP is really nice for P4G

[proud roost]

how does CEP handle it's enabling and disabling of mods?

[loud plover]

it doesnt lol

[proud roost]

oh

[loud plover]

it does the whole, everything packaged in one mod sort of deal

unless it was added recently, no

[proud roost]

no ones complained about that?

[loud plover]

it seems not

[light blaze]

strange

also lmaoo

[ebon shore]

Back on this for a second. There's info on Reloaded's current mod packs here. I've not tried using them myself but I think some of the problems are:

• You can't update a modpack so no adding mods, etc (as far as I can see)
• You can't specify mod versions, it'll just download the latest stuff (I don't think this is that much of an issue)
  (Pixelguin has probably actually tried using them and could probably list more issues)

[loud plover]

I think for most people, the convenience of a modpack like CEP is worth it even with the limitations

so even if the sound bugs with P3P are hypothetically figured out, such a pack would be worth having is my view on it.

now, it would be great if those sound bugs were solved, but it seems like an undertaking that may not even be possible given it seems to be an issue with P3P itself, and it's an undertaking that I can't imagine many people are interested in working on

the fact that there is a workaround seems to be a fluke in itself, bc if not for that method somehow working, the sound would just be ass and there would be nothing that could be done about it

[ebon shore]

I mean I think downloading the pack is a one time thing

[loud plover]

well perhaps sniwe means that you cant update a modpack to add or remove mods if needed

yeah

[ebon shore]

You install it and then you have those mods

It doesn't keep knowledge that you have a modpack so you couldn't add stuff to it without making people redownload the pack

[loud plover]

that first point is an issue I would think. second point meh

[ebon shore]

At least that's how it looks to me, as I said I haven't used the feature myself

[loud plover]

I think CEP typically does automatic updates as it's handled as one big mod

[ebon shore]

Yeah, that's the problem. There'd be no automatic way to do updates as it is, you'd have to somehow manually notify people and then get them to actually go through the steps of reinstalling the pack

[proud roost]

i mean

can't you save a mod set and share the json?\

doesn't that automatically download mods?

[ebon shore]

No it doesn't

It'll only enable ones you already have installed

(I tried this in the hopes that it would download them)

[proud roost]

[light blaze]

would something like this be somewhat viable then?

[ebon shore]

That's basically what mod packs are though

[proud roost]

aemulus is sounding pretty sexy right now

[loud plover]

so really, I think we're just back to this. I don't really see any other options that would work really?

[light blaze]

true!!

[loud plover]

there is obviously the option of just letting users figure it out themselves lol

[ebon shore]

Yeah, this is probably the only realistic solution currently. You could wait for improvements so some of the other things I've suggested would be possible but who knows how long that takes (if it happens at all)

[loud plover]

mhm that's the thing, I am not sure if the interest is there

which to be clear, I'm not holding that against anyone

[ebon shore]

Another thing with CEP is it guides the user through setting up everything, it even includes its own reloaded copy. Do you want to go that far or just have a mod that people download after they've setup mods for themself?

[loud plover]

it's just how it is right now haha

[proud roost]

a mod that people download is what i would go for at least

[loud plover]

this would likely be the latter, yeah

not as handholdy as CEP, but the idea is once you get R2 set up, you're good to go, you just click one and you get a modpack with mods to make P3P PC slightly less shit to play

[ebon shore]

Fair, that's sort of what I was expecting. Everything Pixelguin does for CEP sounds like a lot of work 😅

[loud plover]

yeah haha

I think at that point it's like

if I wanted to do that, I would just ask pixel directly

but given P3P CEP was already cancelled lol, yeah (and also I'm not sure there's enough interest in the first place for something like that, whereas with P4G it makes sense)

[proud roost]

i thought P3F CEP got canceled

or ended support

[ebon shore]

I'm sure Pixelguin has explained it somewhere but I think it's basically lack of interest, not as many mods, plus p3r exists

[proud roost]

was there ever a P3P CEP

[ebon shore]

Yeah p3f was ended as well

There never was a p3p one although I'm sure he considered it

[loud plover]

there was a role for it

it is now the P3R role

so swine, in your opinion, do you think it'd better to have

• one mod the way CEP does it, with R2 config options to enable or disable certain parts
• one mod with dependencies

I think the R2 mod pack approach probably isn't gonna work well given its limitations

[ebon shore]

I'd say one mod cep style

[loud plover]

and obviously this could change in the future if we have more expanded capabilities, but for right now, that doesn't exist

alright

[ebon shore]

Actually you're going to have some problems with that now that I think about it. I don't think there's really a way to merge code mods so they might have to come as a dependency

(I don't think there are many code mods though so probably not a big deal)

[loud plover]

imo configs are annoying

[proud roost]

if there was a flowscript like system for configs id be making so many more config options 😔

[loud plover]

I think the only ones that exist for P3P are yours

[ebon shore]

Yes I think you're right lol

[loud plover]

would you help if I needed it <3

making

[ebon shore]

I can't remember how many there are though. I can think of Manual Skill Inheritance and Visible Rankup Ready off the top of my head

[loud plover]

if you have too many config options it fucks the order

[proud roost]

i think cep just makes code mods a separate package

[loud plover]

sewer is aware afaik but I think the answer was more or less, wait for R3

[ebon shore]

I couldn't remember if I made that for p3p lol. You're probably right

[loud plover]

in the meantime you can work around it but it's a little annoying

[proud roost]

crazy

[loud plover]

mainly it affects losers like me who use the R2 configs for music mods hahaha

[proud roost]

no config options

[ebon shore]

I don't blame him, it'd be a pain to setup

And I think the end goal for cep was to move away from one mod and into separate mods when all of the merging was done

[loud plover]

most of the mods in P4G CEP are mods I consider must haves anyways

[loud plover]

do you know how that was planned to be done?

[ebon shore]

(SPR merging being somewhat broken hasn't helped that 🫠)

[loud plover]

given the issues we've been talking about with mod packs?

[proud roost]

@main kayak full send

[ebon shore]

Umm I'm not sure. I think I'm not making that up lol

Hopefully that is true...

[loud plover]

lol if you don't know it's fine

I believe I'd heard something similar

either that or we're gaslighting ourselves 🤷

swine I'm just curious, were you aware of the whole thing with P3P sound quality and mods?

[light blaze]

it was an issue day 1 when it released

[ebon shore]

Yeah, I've heard of it a fair few times

I don't understand why it happens though. It's very strange that using the exact same file as the base game but through persona essentials makes it work

[loud plover]

yeah. but only if it's in a bin

haha

[ebon shore]

Rena would probably have a better time working it out given their work with music stuff

[opaque umbra]

good lord what are y'all cooking in here

i leave for 4 hours and a big ass concept appears

[proud roost]

potions and spells

[light blaze]

food

[ebon shore]

Don't you literally copy init.bin from the original files or am I remembering the solution wrong?

[light blaze]

[loud plover]

you could use the P3P PC init.bin if that's what you're asking

even if you load that with no other changes, it sounds better lol

absolutely baffling

[ebon shore]

Yeah that's what I thought. Idk why that would happen

[loud plover]

I'm kind of assuming it's a mystery that will never be solved

[opaque umbra]

blame preapp

cuz why not

[loud plover]

what we do know is that this workaround exists and works haha

[proud roost]

someone should definitely get on it because it would make this entire thing simpler

the catalyst for this project is because of that issue and needing to merge multiple mods to alleviate it

[opaque umbra]

bonq be like: "get to supporting‼️"

[proud roost]

kinda

it's been an issue for a year at this point?

[loud plover]

true although as I did say, having a mod pack for P3P would help a lot in general I think

[ebon shore]

Since day 1, yeah

[loud plover]

not many people are interested in P3P, fewer people still are probably going to want to bother figuring out what mods to use

[light blaze]

I actually went ahead and replaced some of the audio files with some of P3FES' for the HD Audio SFX mod (aka the files inside the init.bin)

[ebon shore]

Yes

[proud roost]

.

what was the plan for the individual packages?

[ebon shore]

Yeah, is that true and if so how were you going to?

[loud plover]

I'm mostly curious about the latter personally

also pixel while you're here, if you have any suggestions for a modpack name that would not be too close to CEP...

[opaque umbra]

P3ME...?
is that used already?

[proud roost]

that's actually really interesting

not sure how you would distribute that without zipping up reloaded entirely though...

[loud plover]

hmmm if you used the mod pack function within R2 you do run into that issue of not being able to add new mods 🤔

[light blaze]

how does Aigis' Homebrew sound..?

[ebon shore]

With the modpack feature would you need users to manually reinstall it with each update?

[loud plover]

does it respect mod order?

nice

[ebon shore]

But a user would have to download it themselves right? There wouldn't be some prompt in reloaded?

Yeah that was the problem I was thinking of when I mentioned the feature first

How do you get that information out to them though? Just hope they join the discord and see the ping?

[loud plover]

something like this mod pack probably wouldn't be on the same scale as CEP anyways (ex: no dedicated tutorial, no R2 installation prepackaged, etc)

P3P doesn't have the popularity as you're no doubt aware lol

[ebon shore]

Yeah that's true

I also say adding new mods is a problem but that requires people to actually make new mods for the game lol

[loud plover]

if it did I'm sure you would've just made a CEP for P3P already

true, P4 is better

what?

[ebon shore]

I've not used (or even seen?) gb lists before. Could you include a r2 modpack file in there?

[proud roost]

you mean collections?

[ebon shore]

But if they just want to get all the things

[proud roost]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/collections/454732

i think they're private by default

[ebon shore]

Instead of having to download them one by one

[proud roost]

so you've never seen one

[ebon shore]

I might've but I've seen one at a glance but I've never used them

[loud plover]

if I did what you did I'd have the benefit of auto updates 🤔

I'd just be more in charge of maintaining things

[ebon shore]

Do you want that responsibility though...

[proud roost]

id definitely take over if need be

considering i still make P3P mods

[loud plover]

hmm well. P3P modding is dead right now

It will never become super popular, bonQ is hard carrying rn

[ebon shore]

True... rip outfit selector

[light blaze]

except for BonQ propping up the whole P3P Modding economy

[loud plover]

I think in that case maybe maintaining the mod pack as a whole wouldn't be so bad

thoughts?

like having it as one big mod

[light blaze]

seems like the best option ngl

[loud plover]

if it were like P4G 2020 or P3R right now, fuck no lol

but P3P is pretty quiet...

[ebon shore]

I think it's up to you in the end. If you think you're up to it and people will want it then go for it

[loud plover]

the only reason to play that game anymore is femc

this is true

[ebon shore]

Or you can't run reload...

[loud plover]

it's just given me a lot to think about

[proud roost]

or you just think the game is good and fun 🥹

[light blaze]

I plan on making a P3P mod in the future tho, but I gotta finish TT 1.2 first bcuz I need that to be finished for the work to transfer to Portable

[loud plover]

surely people could run FES instead haha

[ebon shore]

you would be wrong /j

[native geyser]

and the better soundtrack

[proud roost]

setting up? no

[loud plover]

there haven't been a lot of users period

[proud roost]

having issues because of me? yes

[loud plover]

the main issues are really down to the P3P audio issues making mods annoying to set up, and the lack of a dedicated list or collection of mods

[light blaze]

how to make a folder incident

[native geyser]

i for one miss unpacking all the game files

[ebon shore]

I for one miss waiting a few minutes to rebuild every time I edited my mod 🙃

[loud plover]

no yeah you're right. the reason I thought of this is because I think that setting this up would not take a lot of time. and also with the FEMC cutscenes project almost done and FEMC explicitly confirmed to not be coming to Reload, it would be nice to have an option out there for a mod pack

[proud roost]

didn't all the complaints about that stop once i fixed the cheat instructions for hardware?

[opaque umbra]

[proud roost]

oh wait remastered

not restored

[native geyser]

"touch less grass"

[loud plover]

it's mainly, how do I want to set up this mod pack. that's the main thing right now

chromebooks

[native geyser]

people use phones with simple UIs instead of computers

[light blaze]

I got taught with WinXP and Win7 machines in like 2011-13☠️

[native geyser]

i think some mobile OSs don't even let you see the file system

[loud plover]

I suppose I could look at the R2 modpack option

[light blaze]

(first grade to third ish)

[loud plover]

it might be good for something like this

do I need permission from the mod authors in that case 🤔

I'm not packaging their mods but if I have a mod pack download

cool

[light blaze]

you got mine regardless

[ebon shore]

You don't but imo it doesn't hurt to ask regardless

[loud plover]

thanks haha, appreciate it

yeah. I'll probably go ask around eventually just in case

[proud roost]

all my mods are free to use lol

[loud plover]

can't hurt

[light blaze]

alr; side discussion, back to the name

[ebon shore]

You could go with something a bit more boring like P3P Essentials Pack

[native geyser]

essentials kind of clashes with mod loader names

[ebon shore]

(I was going to say P3P Essentials but that might end up being a mod in the future)

Yeah...

Bruh Pixelguin's doing it too

[native geyser]

brawler couldn't handle it 😔

[light blaze]

no funny acronym..?

[proud roost]

hate that P3P Community's Useful Mods sounds good

like it's the most normal sounding funny name one

[ebon shore]

Just a suggestion, Brawler can do a funny acronym if he wants

[light blaze]

P3P Modder's Choice

[native geyser]

which modder's?

[light blaze]

handpicked mods by modders near you

[ebon shore]

9 out of 10 modders recommend

[green island]

colgate

[proud roost]

there aren't even 10 modders for this game bruh

[native geyser]

sad but true

pixel about to dmca CUM

[proud roost]

i was about to say that yeah

[ebon shore]

True. 2 out of 3 modders recommend

[light blaze]

nah 3 is too much

I said P3PEE

[abstract drum]

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-suit-gif-24830079

[light blaze]

Exquisite Enhancements

P3P Live and Reloaded

[loud plover]

why does that actually sound good 😭

[light blaze]

Persona 3 Hardboiled Egg

[native geyser]

im like 80% sure those are ratchet and clank games

[loud plover]

Persona 3 Deload 🙏

[proud roost]

person-her 3? i hardly know her

[loud plover]

I think either way, with this project, I'm probably going to stick with the whole mod pack idea, either through R2 or something else. in addition, for the init.bin mods, that can be packaged as its own mod

thanks for the insight and advice you guys, appreciate it :)

seems like a lot less effort which might make it easier 🙏

[light blaze]

if u need a thumbnail or smth I gotchu💯

[loud plover]

this i do like for that init.bin mod

might take that

[loud plover]

that would be nice

[light blaze]

Persona 3 Hardwired

Persona 3 Stationary

[loud plover]

persona 3 Portugal?

[proud roost]

persona 3 polish versus persona 3 portugal

[light blaze]

Persona 3 Panama

Rise of the Persona 3 Portable

[native geyser]

how many modders does it take to come up with a name yall

[loud plover]

Rise?

[light blaze]

persona 3 no moon

[loud plover]

Persona 3 Nightfall

P3N Mod Collection lmao

[light blaze]

Persona 3 Kai Cenat Ohio Skibity rizz level 3 gyatt

[proud roost]

ban him

ban him just for that message right there

[abstract drum]

~~this thread has just devolved into Persona 3 Shitposting 😭 ~~

[loud plover]

it really has 😭

[light blaze]

isnt that everyday? 🗣️

[abstract drum]

could this be the power of the Persona 3 Community's Useful MOds...

[proud roost]

have we even agreed on what mods will go in the pack

[loud plover]

not yet lol

[ebon shore]

wtf am I looking at
why has the English language been massacred

[proud roost]

every single one of my mods because i'm amazing and cool

[loud plover]

I think first thing to do is probably to check that the modpack feature even works as intended

[proud roost]

except for P3RE cutins when i publish it

that mod sucks

[abstract drum]

brawler has a list of some mods that could go in but yeah nothing's been decided yet lol

[loud plover]

it's in pinned haha

I'm happy to take any more suggestions

[light blaze]

Person 3 Portátil

[proud roost]

no cheat mods?

[loud plover]

I think what I could do if the modpack system works out, is have like a mod pack for essential mods and then another one for mods that aren't so vanilla+ but are still nice

(could include cheat mods)

either that or just do one mod pack and let users figure it out...

[proud roost]

does P4G CEP even include cheats anymore?

[ebon shore]

Exp share?

[proud roost]

i remember back on aemulus they did and you could just disable them

[loud plover]

is it possible to have modpacks ship with mods disabled by default?

[proud roost]

but i don't even see social link cheat sheet mentioned on the page

[loud plover]

that's a good one

[proud roost]

ah my bad

convenient completion?

[loud plover]

what is that mod anyways

[proud roost]

that's not really a cheat-y mod

[ebon shore]

FES Tactics and Outfit Selector would also be good ones if either were finished 😔
(I completely forgot about FES Tactics until now)

[loud plover]

if you ever finish outfit selector that'd be nice to have

[proud roost]

unlocks orpheus telos by maxing out all social links across multiple playthroughs instead of one

[loud plover]

I think only BonQ and maybe max would rly use it at this point butttt

[abstract drum]

i was gonna mention FES Tactics earlier myself actually but then i forgor ig lmao 😭 whoop

[loud plover]

ahhh

[proud roost]

yeah that

[loud plover]

P3P modders are truly the strongest persona modders

[ebon shore]

It has all of the vanilla costumes as well. That's sort of the main draw since I don't think anyone cares enough to make model mods

[light blaze]

strongest or masochistic

[loud plover]

actually that's a lie, P3R sound modders are stronger 🙏

[loud plover]

yes

[proud roost]

didn't mudkip make a bunch of costume mods but never release em because they were waiting on costume selector

[ebon shore]

Moddaman and I were working on it but I guess we both forgot or something. Idk, it never got finished

[proud roost]

they told me they had PQ costumes and velvet room costumes

they posted the P3D models but it's not finished

[light blaze]

all of them

[ebon shore]

The problem was less the actual tactics code and more making the game not crash

[native geyser]

found them ^

[proud roost]

@magic geyser how finished are the costume mods you made for P3P again?

the PQ and velvet room ones?

[abstract drum]

I remember i ended up kinda dropping off in terms of progress when i needed to get my libraries sorted out to match the ones everyone else had and to work with the version of BF Emu that uses function aliases; was making progress on that and then slowly i just kinda stopped and yeah forgot to go back :'3

[magic geyser]

idr making velvet room costumes but pq is done yeah

[ebon shore]

Yeah, I also got sick of dealing with the libraries

[native geyser]

how many p3p mods are just unreleased lmao

[proud roost]

i got like 6 unreleased ones right now

[loud plover]

many

[magic geyser]

11 or so for me last i checked

[light blaze]

I believe I have like two..?

[proud roost]

sometimes i make a P3P mod because i'm bored and wanna experiment

make it, realize it sucks, never release it

boom, released, now it's out there

[light blaze]

when's the griddy battle finish animation

[loud plover]

isn't there one for P4G?

[proud roost]

all signature skills are already inheritable in P3P

[abstract drum]

i've got a few that i haven't finished/released yet yeah, should really get on them at some point lol 😭

[proud roost]

there's no limitations

[proud roost]

remember dungeon party organization 😔

[native geyser]

[loud plover]

you guys should release that mod

that was a good mod

[proud roost]

oh you meant like that

that would literally just be a table edit lol

right?

[ebon shore]

Releasing mods is hard, it's way easier to mostly finish them then get bored and forget they exist 🙃
(I think I've only got two for P3P, three for P3R, at least one for P5R, and probably a lot for P4G...)

[magic geyser]

p3r killed any chance i would care about my unfinished mods

[loud plover]

just send the files to BonQ I'm sure they'd finish them for you lmaooo

[proud roost]

you should release em anyways so i can fix em up

[proud roost]

i quite literally dmed them about that a few days ago lmaoooooo

[loud plover]

what if you released those P4G mods at some point 😳

[ebon shore]

That would be cool lol

I think some of the ones that aren't released are waiting on bmd emulator

[loud plover]

I wanna do a modded P4G run at some point so it'd be appreciated lol

templates are useful!

[light blaze]

I've helped others with their mods instead of mine lmaooo

[loud plover]

ok back to P3P modding, do any of you know of any other mods that edit init.bin besides HD audio, localization fixes, and useful descs?

I can't think of any major mods but...

(also I think I realized this too late but I wonder how many people think localization fixes is some anti woke mod to combat woke localization, when it's literally just to fix all the typos in P3P)

[light blaze]

ehhh I think it's fine imo

[loud plover]

I undid the change precisely because it's an issue in Japanese haha

it's a voiced line is the problem

if the voice acting said 1999 it would be fine but my understanding is that even in Japanese they say 2000

the other option is to simply mute the line or edit it but that's a fix I feel would stand out more than it should lol

[light blaze]

they consistently fucked it up, real dedication ngl

[loud plover]

if there's nothing else, it shouldn't be too hard to make a mod that merges them all together. then an obsolescence notice could simply be placed on the old mod pages and updates could continue from there

mod pack could be a separate page, maybe I will use community's useful mods or something idek

[proud roost]

forget how time consuming it is to rename functions back to stock 😔

trying to fix change party in tartarus for a public release

[light blaze]

so we're going with P3CUM as the final name?

[native geyser]

meanwhile CBT...

[light blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/aigis-persona-3-nuh-uh-gif-2187820196525411510

[native geyser]

SUBTLE

[proud roost]

yeah i think cognitive behavioral therapy

weirdos think the other thing

[light blaze]

well we need smth that stands out but is serious

would be funny if we could use cum but yeah, that's not the best look lmaooo

[loud plover]

I'll scroll through some of the suggestions pixel dropped tomorrow or something and think on it

I think though an argument could be made that because it's just a R2 mod pack, aka a more or less list of mods, I could use a much more to the point title, like P3P Essential Mods, Community Recommended Mods, etc etc

[light blaze]

maybe Persona 3 Midnight Enhancements?

[native geyser]

why midnight?

[light blaze]

dark hour happens at midnight

🤷‍♂️

lmaooo

[opaque umbra]

i did say P3ME earlier

[native geyser]

ohhh, that's what the clock is for

lmao

[loud plover]

either way I don't think the mod page for the mod pack needs to be super fancy. for the merged init.bin mods something nicer could work

[loud plover]

with that being said, I think people associate midnight far more with P4 despite the dark hour taking place at midnight...

[light blaze]

true

[loud plover]

P3P Community Recommended Mods is another boring but straight to the point title lol

stuff like that I think is fine

[proud roost]

@abstract drum got it working with your latest release and stock functions

[light blaze]

well ig something simple like P3P Community Fixes could work

[abstract drum]

ayyyyy nice

[proud roost]

and can confirm it's working as intended too

there were definitely some interesting function labels in there

[light blaze]

well if something sticks feel free to lmk so I can add it to the thumbnail👍

[loud plover]

although I think it's more than just fixes so perhaps that wouldn't be sufficiently descriptive

sure thing haha

I think for right now:

• P3P QOL Collection for the mod that would combine the init.bin mods together
• (insert name here) for the modpack(s) page

[opaque umbra]

P3N
Persona 3 Necessities

make p3n real

[loud plover]

unironically that might work ok lol

it's simple, it gets to the point

[opaque umbra]

P3NIS REAL‼️‼️‼️

[light blaze]

[proud roost]

we almost had it

we almost had a functioning name

it was right there

[opaque umbra]

yeah p3n

[native geyser]

getting persona series randomized battle themes vibes

[light blaze]

Persona 3 64 DS

[loud plover]

Persona 3 Portable (PC) QOL modpack/modlist

[opaque umbra]

Persona 3 Part 3

[loud plover]

😭 yes I know I am bad with names

[light blaze]

Persona 3 Stardust Crusaders

[proud roost]

wxnder

[loud plover]

next update I'm gonna shorten it to randomized battle themes

[opaque umbra]

i think p3n would be funny i'm ngl

[proud roost]

would you like to try and cook up a thumbnail for the change party in tartarus mod

or should i

[opaque umbra]

it's such an inside joke here that p3n would work well

[proud roost]

actually it should probably be called Dungeon Party Organization right?

what's a better name

[opaque umbra]

Tartarus Member Swap

[light blaze]

I can think of smth, give me a bit to think

[loud plover]

I felt change party in Tartarus was very descriptive as is

[light blaze]

Tartar Swap

[opaque umbra]

TMS
(tokyo mirage sessions)

[loud plover]

or whatever you had before

[light blaze]

Tartar Sauce

[proud roost]

yeah change party in tartarus then

[light blaze]

Tartarus

[opaque umbra]

Tartarswap is a good one

man you guys are so lucky my ass isn't making mods anymore cuz you know i would be making stupid ass titles like these

[light blaze]

it was a play on words on a play on words😭

would an apple music playlist shuffle icon represent the swapping of teammates in tartarus or nah

[magic geyser]

I was working on a mod that added in a couple custom bossfights (including yu) and added some new skills

I was naming it Persona 3 Portable Enchanced Gameplay

[opaque umbra]

but what about p3piss

[light blaze]

P3PEG

[magic geyser]

[light blaze]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[opaque umbra]

oh yeah max

where's piss hair p3re

[native geyser]

surprised that wasn't the first mod released tbh

[light blaze]

yeah shit this is gonna be a bit trickier than I thought

this is all I have rn

feels a bit empty to me

[proud roost]

oh we had similar ideas lol

this isn't done, i need to make the text prettier

[light blaze]

lowkey a combo between my thumbnail and yours would probably make the best of both ngl

[ebon shore]

Would you guys mind going to #p3-modding-chat. I realise this post has already completely devolved from the topic numerous times but it'd probably be helpfuly to brawler if we could try and put it back on track

[proud roost]

yeah yeah sorry

[light blaze]

shiiii my fault, will do🫡

[ebon shore]

ty

[opaque umbra]

anyways brawler what name do you wanna try and use for this p3p cep-like thing

[lavish zealot]

p3p emo “enhanced modern overhaul”

revitalized and legacy are also some keywords that could be useful

[green island]

CUM better

[lavish zealot]

naming it p3pRE is also a little silly i think

[sleek agate]

Too long. Keep it simple. P3P Enhanced or something

We always make the mistake of stupid wordy names then regret it later 🫠

[lavish zealot]

honestly i like “necessities” the best but there were talks of having a funni abbreviation which is why i even wrote it

[green island]

P3 Necessities Is Reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[loud plover]

:')

I think some of those are already on the list no?

we'll see how the mod pack system works, but I think I'd just be able to select a specific version at the very least

[loud plover]

sounds like R2 modpack probably wouldn't be an option so I'm thinking I could do the whole dummy packages thing

it's a workaround but if it works...

[ebon shore]

Why wouldn't it be an option? It seemed to me like you were leaning towards it yesterday

[loud plover]

I was but sewer was talking about how it as a feature works and it sounds terribly inconvenient ngl

i didn't mess with it much but it also didn't seem like a case of, hey, just download these mods! it seems to me like it packages the specific versions of mods together

[ebon shore]

Maybe I should try it for myself, that didn't seem like what it did to me based off the documentation on it

I don't really get how it could be specific versions either, that'd only really work with GitHub since I don't think anyone really leaves multiple versions of mods up on gb

Oh I just saw what sewer said in #modders-chat

I see the problem now, I didn't realise you couldn't upload them to gb

You could upload it somewhere else and just link to it. The way gb does one-click installs isn't anything special, it's just a hyperlink (there was info on it in the reloaded documentation)

[proud roost]

yeah i think it's just a hyperlink

i was going through trusted links in firefox one day and saw it

[ebon shore]

Or maybe you try convincing tom to let them on gb. Sewer did say this was two years ago that he said they couldn't be uploaded

[loud plover]

I suppose it couldn't hurt to ask

[loud plover]

would that have 1-click support then or?

[loud plover]

maybe! i should probably actually put something together first though 💀

[ebon shore]

Yeah, you click a link and it'd install

https://reloaded-project.github.io/Reloaded-II/InstallingModPacks/

[proud roost]

damn so we can host on mediafire?

that's pretty sweet

[loud plover]

interesting

maybe P3P CEP will be real after all lol

[proud roost]

nah that's a personal thing unrelated

[ebon shore]

You could host on anything. Just try and pick something that won't disappear lol

[quick juniper]

you guys should name it persona 3 portable polished

that way the acronym can be p3pp

[opaque umbra]

[quick juniper]

and the pSex (p5ex) and p5rcbt (custom bonus tweaks) legacy can be carried out

[opaque umbra]

but p3n

[quick juniper]

[proud roost]

god help the next soul who's gonna have to make an acronym based on the last remaining part of that

"persona 6 very awesome good"

[opaque umbra]

LMFAO

p6vag

[proud roost]

outside of the whole pp joke, i think portable polished is pretty good

[barren narwhal]

Poatable

Uh

[loud plover]

holy shit, like the audio file format used for the p3p battle lines?

this is so cool

[barren narwhal]

P1 PC also uses .vag files

Guess which game also has audio problems

[opaque umbra]

if p1 ever gets actual mods

someone has to make a modpack called p1ss

[barren narwhal]

It does tho....

They're just

All music

And textures too

Text editing is a pain since there's no tools

All hex editing

[barren narwhal]

Persona 1 Sebec Super Supreme HQ Incredible Touchups

P1ssshit

[opaque umbra]

if you change it to

Persona 1 SEBEC Supreme & Superb HQ Incredible Touchups

you get p1ss&shit

[quick juniper]

wait actually i just saw this

you NEED to use this name

this is fucking perfect PLEASE

HSAKJDHASKDHAKSJHDJ

[opaque umbra]

C U M

[barren narwhal]

I agree

[opaque umbra]

Persona 3 CUM

[barren narwhal]

The best way to play with FEMC is using CUM

[loud plover]

@light blaze @tardy widget when you guys get the chance: how do you think collaboration regarding QOL Collection should work? since it's essentially taking the content of Localization Fixes and HD Audio SFX, so any future updates would probably require us to coordinate changes haha

[opaque umbra]

🤨

that is horrible wording

[barren narwhal]

That's the point

[barren narwhal]

Whenever I see this emoji I think of the fact the SMT modding server has a Mothman version

[light blaze]

honestly I think we can just make it a new mod with both changes

[loud plover]

right, I'm saying for future updates

[light blaze]

then we can send one person files for an update or we can update the page ourselves

with perms n shit

[loud plover]

alright, sounds good

I have no idea how to give other ppl permissions to update the page lol

[loud plover]

think I did it before but I forgor </3

[native geyser]

permits?

[light blaze]

I forgot how to do it..☠️

[opaque umbra]

permits ye

i did that for megacatyu for wff p3fes

bro basically owns it now lol

[barren narwhal]

P3 Needed Install Selection

P3NIS

[quick juniper]

sadjhaskdjhasldajhdlkHKLJHDS

[opaque umbra]

we should make a channel where we just come up with stupid fucking acronyms

[loud plover]

i feel like that's what this channel has become lol

[barren narwhal]

sowwy

[loud plover]

it's alright haha it's kinda funny and i kinda brought it on myself

[barren narwhal]

I just need to install penis to my laptop

Or cum

Or fuck

Whatever we're calling it

[quick juniper]

i need to install piss&shit

unplayable without it

[opaque umbra]

i'm trying to come up with P5TRANS but i can't think of words

[loud plover]

@light blaze since you offered, I would like a thumbnail for P3P QOL Collection :p
which that mod I'm thinking would just be combining HD audio SFX, localization fixes, and useful descriptions if yuki is cool with it

[barren narwhal]

Tbf the string editor was really stretching what words people would understand
"Intelligent String Subjugator" or smth

[loud plover]

can't imagine why she wouldn't be, it is p3p after all lol

[barren narwhal]

Just for the funny acronym

[light blaze]

yeah abt that, I alr have like 75% of it done but I still need the name☠️😭

[opaque umbra]

we need to host a poll

[loud plover]

modpack itself i haven't thought a ton about

[light blaze]

P3N
P3P CUM
and P3PP

[opaque umbra]

CUM, P3N, P3NIS, FUCK

[loud plover]

figured it would be worth getting the QOL collection together first

[opaque umbra]

what are we going with

i'm personally a fan of CUM myself

(don't you dare take that out of context)

[proud roost]

man i just realized 😭

font mods won't me mergeable with the QOL collection mod

more reason not to make one

[barren narwhal]

P3 Bebe's Outstanding Original Beautiful Supplements

P3Boobs

[opaque umbra]

BOOBS

YOOOOOOO

[loud plover]

is something wrong with the default font for p3p

[opaque umbra]

[proud roost]

nah i just like customization

[barren narwhal]

Cumstomisation

[opaque umbra]

i am ruthless

[whole tusk]

yes, its not fot slump

Brawler

[Reply to:](#1215507296763904051 message) is something wrong with the default font for p3p

[barren narwhal]

We should make it comic sans

[proud roost]

P4G fonts do work natively on P3P

it's just the characters are super large

[opaque umbra]

you mean like the default mods in mod compendium?

[proud roost]

compared to how small P3P characters are

P3P font is like the slim font for P4G

[barren narwhal]

SO THE WHOLE GAME IS LIKE THIS?

[jolly night]

she do be cool with it

Brawler

[Reply to:](#1215507296763904051 message) @light blaze since you offered, I would like a thumbnail for P3P QOL Collection :p
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[proud roost]

yeah

[opaque umbra]

holy shit

[barren narwhal]

I love it

[opaque umbra]

why isn't this a mod already

[opaque umbra]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[quick juniper]

persona 3 portable universal superb simplified (mods for) you

p3pussy

[opaque umbra]

p3pussy

the true way to play femc

holy shit wait

can we use P3NIS for p3re and P3PUSSY for p3p

[quick juniper]

HSHDSAJDHSAJDHJSADHASDH

[opaque umbra]

pwease

[loud plover]

I'm gonna shoot that one down for P3P it's too on the nose 💀

besides idk if you guys saw but there is the possibility that this could just end up being P3P CEP anyways

[quick juniper]

the double s and the y was killing me

[quick juniper]

idk if you want that label

if you do, get ready for the horde of support questions lol

[loud plover]

true, that's the main thing that has me like hmmm

at the very least, the guide would be pretty damn useful though I think

[opaque umbra]

you'd have to join the cep discord

[quick juniper]

persona 3 portable unified simple imports

p3pusi

it works well enough

[lavish zealot]

im still a fan of p3p emo

[opaque umbra]

a fate worse than death (i've literally never seen the cep discord before)

[loud plover]

I don't check it so idk how bad the support questions can be lol

[quick juniper]

well you gotta consider

cep usually isnt just a modpack

its a full guide on getting the entire persona modding thing going

and its usually a closed environment

people only download cep and nothing else, and only ever rely on the cep guide

[proud roost]

kris’ suggestion was pretty good if we don’t go for CEP

portable polished

[opaque umbra]

i will never stop fighting for p3n

[quick juniper]

we know its just funny

[opaque umbra]

but we're making persona mods

everything is a meme

[loud plover]

I'm fine with it being a meme lol, it just has to have some taste to it (CBT is a good example....)

i'm starting to think maybe it's a tradition at this point lol

[opaque umbra]

it is

[proud roost]

CEP is the outlier statistically

[quick juniper]

honestly

yes

its really funny

[proud roost]

we really should get serious and think of a good name though

pixelguin is right

[lavish zealot]

necessities..

[proud roost]

i think the idea of naming it slightly after a character in P3 is interesting

like Kirijo Group's Enhancements Kit

or something idk

[lavish zealot]

p3p sees? idk what the acronym would be

[quick juniper]

thats so booooringggggg tho

[proud roost]

Kirijo Group's Game Augments

Something Extras and Expansions Something

[loud plover]

my serious opinion on the matter is that if it's just done for the sake of the meme rather than genuinely sounding good/being relevant/being useful to say easily, it's not as funny
P5R CBT works bc

• custom bonus tweaks is a good way to describe what the mod does (it does a lot)
• CBT is indicative of how the mod was to make lol
• CBT is also an easy thing to remember

[lavish zealot]

i asked chat gpt SEES: Socially Enhanced Experience Suite
SEES: Streamlined Expansion & Enhancement System
SEES: Community-Driven Superior Enhancement Suite
SEES: Synergetic Essentials Enhancement System
SEES: Simultaneous Expansion & Enhancement Solution

[quick juniper]

gotta think of the words first and then if you want it to be funny you can change it around a bit

that way you can have it be readable

[lavish zealot]

true..

[proud roost]

expansion and enhancements sounds better

[loud plover]

(as of right now I'm still working on merging the QOL collections base mods together)

[proud roost]

but streamlined and system sound off

[lavish zealot]

but yeah its up to you on how you want the acronym to be

[loud plover]

it does sound AI generated LMAO

[lavish zealot]

i asked it to list 20 more

do you want it LOL

[loud plover]

honestly I'm going back to P3N because I mean. Necessities describes this pretty damn well

[proud roost]

i love how that second one isn't even the right acronym

[lavish zealot]

fr

[loud plover]

these are mods that I think are genuine necessities to have to enjoy P3P PC

bc P3P PC is mid

lol

[lavish zealot]

yeah necessities is Just Right

as a casual who wants to use this modpack it gets all the information i need regarding the mod across

[loud plover]

now realistically I'd probably go with Persona 3 Portable Necessities (mod pack) but I do know how much people love P3N lol

anyways if you're looking for a mod list right now, there's one pinned in here

[lavish zealot]

i'll probably wait until its put together as im not planning to play rn anyways

[loud plover]

the suggestion was to remove "Portable" iirc lol

would that be potentially too close to Persona Essentials though

[lavish zealot]

okay pepe is outright cringe

[loud plover]

lmao

ngl that has me against the idea LMAO

(the main thing is that I think it suggests it's like an essential mod similar to Persona Essentials or P3R Essentials)

actually I guess it might not be much of an issue bc P3P has a small playerbase

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

so P3P Essentials or P3P Necessities (or some variation of either)

think I'm satisfied with that

[proud roost]

i think N is pretty hot

[loud plover]

god why does that actually look good

[lavish zealot]

alternatively: P3Nis since it sounds like a shortened necessities

but it also might be too in the face

up to you

[proud roost]

fixed the letter size

17b986 is the hex code on the N

[quick juniper]

i hate it because when i hear p3n i hear persona 3 nightfall

[proud roost]

what even is persona 3 nightfall

[quick juniper]

but i also hate that it looks good 😭

[loud plover]

is there a way to replicate the squiggly effect that the P3 logo has? genuinely have no idea how lol

[quick juniper]

a dumbass joke axe kept spamming in this server before p3re was even announced

[proud roost]

oh like how it's slightly warped because it's hand drawn?

[quick juniper]

it was SO annoying

[loud plover]

it does look good yeah 😭 unironically I might just use that for the thumbnail

[proud roost]

i got no idea 💀

the P is P3P isn't clean either

[lavish zealot]

easiest way is to copy paste it from parts of the original logo

[proud roost]

because it's taken from the PSP logo

[loud plover]

it's not supposed to be clean anyways

[ebon shore]

I would avoid P3P Essentials completely. Sewer wanted to split out Persona Essentials into separate mods at some point so, depending on how that's done, there's the possibility that P3P Essentials becomes an actual mod

[loud plover]

oh really

well that makes the decision easier LMAO

but why though?

[ebon shore]

I don't know how exactly he planned to do it, it did sort of sound like it would still just be Persona Essentials and it would somehow only install the parts it needs for the specific games. I could be wrong though, it could be that it would just be separate mods

[proud roost]

here's that logo brawler, as a psd

not sure how to do the warble effect

[loud plover]

ty

[ebon shore]

Basically the problem was if you only use Persona Essentials for P5R you still have the code for P3P and P4G taking up space so Sewer wanted to make it so that didn't happen because he's an optimisation freak 😄

[loud plover]

interesting
idk how exactly it works but at least for P3P/P4G I feel like they'd use most of the same stuff anyways lol

that's the vibe I've gotten yeah LMAO

[ebon shore]

It is mostly the same but particularly with tbl merging there's a fair bit of basically copy pasted code

[loud plover]

I respect it

[ebon shore]

Even if P3P Essentials didn't become a mod I still think there could be some confusion between Persona Essentials (and P3R Essentials maybe) and your modpack if it were named P3P Essentials

Better to just go with a more distinct name imo

[loud plover]

noted, thanks for letting me know

[proud roost]

there's also the fes thing too lol

i didn't do it fantastically but yeah

[loud plover]

I liked the first one more

what I will probably do is call this mod P3P Necessities Modpack and then just use that first logo for the thumbnail

[proud roost]

nice

[loud plover]

(or ask wxnder to do it lol)

[proud roost]

maybe make the thumbnail something like this with the colors blended? just an idea

[loud plover]

wxnder was apparently cooking something up so I'll leave it to them haha

[proud roost]

ah alright lol

excited to see it haha

[lavish zealot]

i can do it if youd like

[proud roost]

yeah i posted the psd above if you wanna take a stab at it

[lavish zealot]

well i lied i already did (i hope the transparency works)

[light blaze]

speaking abt the thumbnail, the final name is P3N?

P3Necessities

[lavish zealot]

did it not

[proud roost]

damn that looks sweet

how'd you do that anyways?

[lavish zealot]

i copy pasted parts of the original logo then touched up the connectors between pixels

[light blaze]

if it's cool with u, can I use this? 👉 👈

[lavish zealot]

i literally cant tell if its transparent btw im on mobile

oh yeah go ahead LOL idm

[light blaze]

thank you 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[lavish zealot]

ok it's transparent god bless

[light blaze]

ok so is P3N a quality of life mod or a modpack

I assume modpack right?

[proud roost]

modpack

[lavish zealot]

qol modpack

[light blaze]

ight bet bet bet

[loud plover]

I'm thinking the full name would be P3P Necessities Modpack but the thumbnail could use that P3N logo

(thoughts?)

[proud roost]

feels a little long

P3 Necessities rolls off the tongue better

and there's no confusion with P3F considering P3F CEP already exists

so you don't need to specify P3P

[loud plover]

well I'm mainly thinking like, does P3 Necessities make it clear that it is a mod pack

you sure like your acronyms huh lol

it certainly works

that sounds like a good name to me, I'll at least use that as the mod title

idk what the thumbnail looks like so there's that haha

[lavish zealot]

at the same time this IS a modpack for portable so i feel like that needs to be specified somewhere

otherwise it might get mistaken for a vanilla mod.. but you guys are more knowledgeable in this

like this yeah

[loud plover]

I'm gonna wait to see the thumbnail first