Ryo (P3R BGM/Audio Framework)

[north frigate]

atlus moment

alright amicitia updated

wrote the victory themes as this

[tranquil violet]

https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170

off bed now

[north frigate]

perfeccttt

[unborn tusk]

perfect guide! all i need to figure out is the looping and then i shall release this mod.

[river valve]

no more static noises! we're so back

[ebon cave]

so trying to replace DLC music just doesn't seem to work yet

trying to replace even one of them makes all of the DLC tracks not play, instead just increasing the volume of the already playing track for some reason

like ?

checked if it was the hca, but renaming it to replace mass destruction worked just fine

[tranquil violet]

bro what is it with tartarus music and battle music

@ebon cave try replacing the tartarus block music with itself

[ebon cave]

like any music or specifically just the original game's HCA?

[elder beacon]

Has someone perhaps maybe unpacked the game's OST and could tell me what is the files' volume?
Because I decided to replace iwatodai dorm's music with the original taken straight from P3 soundtrack, but it's way too loud

[halcyon junco]

that was done

[ebon cave]

replacing the tartarus block music seems to be fine

not using the original hca's tho i haven't been able to extract them yet

[ionic hearth]

Do this, should fix the volume

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rena

Audio volume is fixed, but if you made your music quieter before and don't feel like re-encoding then do this:

1. Create another folder in Ryo/P3R and move all your files into it. Doesn't matter what you name it.
2. In that folder, create the text file config.yaml with the following setting:

volume: 1.0

3. This will apply to every file in Ryo/P3R/NEW_FOLDER.

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[elder beacon]

Thanks, I was constantly changing volume in audacity before that lmao

So basically it'd be something like
modfolder\Ryo\P3R\music\link_53.hca and modfolder\Ryo\P3R\music\config.yaml?

[sinful cargo]

yeah it seems that specifically within tartarus/battles, there's weird interactions between switching between Ryo music loading and P3R's streaming method of music loading

so having Ryo load tartarus block music is a way to work around it

[uncut veldt]

although I think rena was trying to work on a more permanent solution to that

[sinful cargo]

yea, just saying that for now that replacing tartarus block music with itself in Ryo fixes it

[hexed cipher]

Does Ryo also allow one to have a random playlist of songs as replacement, like BGME?

[sinful cargo]

No, not that I’m aware of. But BGME and Ryo don’t conflict with one another so long as they’re not playing over the same songs

[hexed cipher]

ok

[sinful cargo]

Think of it like this: Ryo is, essentially, the P3R equivalent of the AWB emulator used in past games

[hexed cipher]

I assume one can just follow the P5R guide and just adjust everything for P3R for BGME?

[sinful cargo]

Pretty much

Make sure you grab the PhosMusicManager stuff

It’s somewhere in here

It’s a project preset and audio track listings for P3R

So you can directly replace tracks without having to figure out what cueID it is

As a heads up with BGME Battle Themes, Victory music replacement is still inconsistent; that’s a known issue. I’d avoid replacing that for now

[hexed cipher]

Thank you for the tip. It's fine since I only really want battle OST atm

[unborn tusk]

how does one make a song loop in phos?

[sinful cargo]

Click on the song, you should see a checkbox that says loop

And you’ll see start sample and end sample

That is what tells it where the loop begins and ends

Those numbers will depend on the track

[vernal moat]

i'd suggest using pymusiclooper and the pymusiclooper -i export-points --path {songname}.wav command

[sinful cargo]

I’ve never used PyLooper so idk how reliable it is in helping loop tracks that don’t have natural loop points

[vernal moat]

the command finds 25 possible loop points and you can preview them

[sinful cargo]

Oh neat

[vernal moat]

when you're done previewing them it spits out the loop start and end samples in the console

[sinful cargo]

Cool beans

[unborn tusk]

ill try that cause idk what to put for the sample points

[unborn tusk]

Thank you, that was easier than i thought

[tranquil violet]

may i also recommend a --to-file txt at the end of that

i just like it exporting to a file as well as to console but that's just me

[ebon vapor]

Do i have the right idea for making the battle theme randomise to any song in the folder? Think I'm missing something

[tidal gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoTah9YBG2Y

right now the file is actually MyBattleTheme.theme.pme.txt so it's not being loaded

[ebon vapor]

Ah okay fixed but it still doesn't work

I have the files in there named like this because i figured if you aren't specifying songs to randomise it sholdn't matter but i could be wrong there

[tidal gull]

Does your mod have a Mod Dependency on BGME Battle Themes; it won't see your mod if it doesn't?

[ebon vapor]

Yep

[tidal gull]

btw for battle themes you can use regular file names. battle themes will handle assigning IDs for them in every game.

[ebon vapor]

Word
They're named like that because i moved em right from the download folder to there

[tidal gull]

is BGME Framework enabled in your mods list?

battle themes and reactive no longer auto enable it since P3R has it's own version

[ebon vapor]

Yep, unless you mean smth different

[tidal gull]

okay so here, is this all your music script file has? if so then it's not valid, random_song expects either a min ID and max ID or a list of file names

in battle themes though, you'll need to use a list of files names

[ebon vapor]

Okay right
So it needs to specify every song to randomise between?

[tidal gull]

const pq2_bgm = [pq2_InvitationToFreedom, pq2_PulltheTrigger, pq2_RememberWeGotYourBack, pq2_WaitandSee]
const BATTLE_THEME = random_song(pq2_bgm) // Persona Q2

yeah

[uncut veldt]

it's funny that you use this example bc I ditched it a while ago in random battle themes haha

[ebon vapor]

so for reload itd be like p3r_bgm = [wipingallout] ? for example

[tidal gull]

add it back

[uncut veldt]

but you can toggle between each song individually, that's better 😭

[tidal gull]

if you want, it's just a variable name so it can be whatever you want

[ebon vapor]

But it does need to be the file name so hypothetically for what it is rn i could do bgm = 4000?

[tidal gull]

yep

[ebon vapor]

Word lemme try

[ebon vapor]

Also what's the different between top and bottom here? Aren't both battle theme

[uncut veldt]

first line: you are setting up an array/list with your desired battle themes
second line: you are calling that array/list

I think technically you could do something like

const BATTLE_THEME = random_song([pq2_InvitationToFreedom, pq2_PulltheTrigger, pq2_RememberWeGotYourBack, pq2_WaitandSee]) // Persona Q2

and have it all in one line

but the other approach is a bit easier to read imo

[tidal gull]

it's also the only type that works i think, pretty sure my parser doesn't handle expressions as function arguments

[uncut veldt]

oh does it not lol

in that case, welp

[ionic hearth]

it's actually a feature to enforce readable code

[uncut veldt]

same as the feature to make the scene with P4's true culprit more light hearted?

[ebon vapor]

Do i have the right idea here? not sure what function some of the pq2s serve so i just switched them for p3r

[tidal gull]

should be fine

[uncut veldt]

to answer your questions:

• anything after // is commented out. I did this to mark things down because I had more than one game I was adding themes for.
• the pq2_ prefix served a similar purpose, just naming stuff for clarity

you have flexibility with the variable names (within reason)

[ebon vapor]

I understand

Does not seem to work

[sinful cargo]

where is pymusiclooper used? command terminal? elsehwere?

cause my friend is trying to figure out how to use it, they went through the hoops of installing pylooper through pipx which required installing scoop which required installing python

or w/e it was

when trying to run pylooper in powershell though, he got an error saying he needed to run a command to make it global

but when he did that

he got the error of

module 'ctypes' has no attribute 'wintypes'

[tranquil violet]

simple solution: don't use powershell

[sinful cargo]

no but like

what should be used instead

[tranquil violet]

terminal

console

command prompt

[sinful cargo]

when he tried the command of --help it said it didnt recognize it

[tranquil violet]

(all are the same thing it just has 7 different names )

[sinful cargo]

ok I'll try this myself and see

wait like

how do you actually tell pylooper to find loop points for something @tranquil violet

friend has a wav

[tranquil violet]

pymusiclooper -i export-points --path "pathtofile" if i'm not mistaken

[sinful cargo]

and to be clear, installing it requires pipx which requires scoop which requires python, correct?

[tranquil violet]

does pipx require scoop?

i only remember installing pipx with pip

but yes pip and pipx require python

[sinful cargo]

pipx can be installed using scoop

according to the pipx site

[tranquil violet]

it can be

doesn't require it

can just be pip

[sinful cargo]

well idk if he ever got pip

does he need that

[tranquil violet]

pip comes with python

[sinful cargo]

oh

[tidal gull]

not work how

[ebon vapor]

It just plays the regular battle themes

[tidal gull]

send a screenshot of your battle themes folder

[unborn tusk]

having this same issue now, dlc tracks i replaced just plays the tartarus track but louder. I already replaced all tartarus themes with itself but still doesn't work

[prisma mason]

Is it cool to ask for help here or is there a more dedicated channel for such questions?

[tidal gull]

ask here

it's basically will WIP until it has less bugs tbh

[prisma mason]

It's nothing too crazy, but I'm not too sure where to go from here. I followed the music tutorial guide on https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170#H1_5https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170#H1_5, I tried to Change Mass destruction in Phos Music Manager, but it never changed to the track I put in, I did notice people mentioning editing music by using cues earlier, should I go about using that method instead?

and the track in question I checked dependency for Ryo

[tidal gull]

you are using that method; phos just handles naming and structuring the files for you automatically

in the console, do you see a message like Assigned cue after starting the game?

[prisma mason]

I don't, It should be at the very top right?

[tidal gull]

nearish

right before the message that your mod has loaded i think

[prisma mason]

Don't see it

[tranquil violet]

is your mod named mod_folder

[prisma mason]

no

"Trns Beat" is what i named the mod

[tidal gull]

yeah noticed that, technically your folder name doesn't matter but creating the mod through reloaded typically names your folder have your mod id

[prisma mason]

you mean this?

[tidal gull]

if you click on your mod, then open folder, is MOD_FOLDER the folder that opens

yeah

that's your mod's folder

[uneven pollen]

Are you referring to the tartarus track problem?

[tidal gull]

yeah

[prisma mason]

ohhhhh

so should i put the file in there?

[tidal gull]

yeh

[prisma mason]

Well damn

still doesn't work

[opal plaza]

If the P3R project isn't appearing for me in Phos, do i have to do anything to get it to show up?

[tidal gull]

you downloaded the version from here: https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170?

[opal plaza]

ah i didnt

okay

[tidal gull]

same question as before, any Assigned cue near when your mod loaded

[prisma mason]

Ok, this is weird. I just tested changing a different track, and it worked with no issues.

[opal plaza]

@tidal gull i can use existing HCA files i have to "replace" the music files already via ryo yeah?

[tidal gull]

could be the game plays the song with a different cue name. enable Developer Mode in Ryo's reloaded config and then make the song play in-game

it'll tell you what name it uses

[tidal gull]

if those files were encrypted for the AWB then no

[opal plaza]

They're encrypted for BGME

[tidal gull]

Ryo uses the base key for encryption (which is what Phos also uses)

wdym encrypted for bgme?

[opal plaza]

Like, the files are already setup in such a way that they have they're requiste link names and are already encoded to be used by BGME/Ryo's framework

[tidal gull]

then yeah, i think

thought you meant HCAs the were made for the old method of bgm replacement

[opal plaza]

Nah i had a custom pack i was using using the old method, but i just need to find where to put the files to allow it to replace.

[remote glen]

I am trying to use Phos to build a HCA file for P3R but for some reason it keeps failing everytime I try to build it. I have the loop points set and everything

[prisma mason]

It works now, thank you. Sometimes the game crash on first startup, but rebooting and no issues so far

[opal plaza]

Hate to ping, @tidal gull, checked the log file and it keeps failing the decryption even with the correct ini key in the folder. Any idea whats causing that?

[ionic hearth]

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[tidal gull]

did you download the phos linked here?

[tidal gull]

then back to no

you can't use those HCAs if they were encrypted for the AWB method

[opal plaza]

I did, and its giving me the encryption failed error

[tidal gull]

encryption error??

[opal plaza]

Failed to build output for project Persona 3 Reload PC.
System.IO.InvalidDataException: Cannot find key to decrypt HCA file.

in the log file

sorry, poor wording

[tidal gull]

never seen that, best i can guess is that the updated vgaudio supports deencoding files but i've never used it like that

use the original files or figure out where it wants the key (possibly the phos folder)

[opal plaza]

i have the ini setup correctly with the key, where do i put the VGaudio file to check?

[tidal gull]

ini? key???

you shouldn't have to be doing anything in there

use the original files or figure out where it wants the key (possibly the phos folder)
and set the key back to what it was before

[tidal gull]

it was already set up to work with Ryo, you'll only get issues changing anything

[tidal gull]

oh, discord was just bugging out

[opal plaza]

Sorry my keyboard was bugging out and couldnt reply. I redownloaded from scratch again, tried it using a clean wav got the same error. Im confused what you mean by where it wants the key specifically. I dont wanna fill the chat with text from a log file, so i wanna make sure its okay before i post it.

[prisma mason]

Is it safe to turn the db up on some of the music files?

[remote glen]

Yes I did

I wanna make a full P3 Movie soundtrack mod so bad lol

[placid saffron]

Yes you can

[tidal gull]

you can change the volume of a specific file by creating a FILE_NAME.yaml, replace FILE_NAME with your file's name. Then add the setting: volume: 0.35, 0 to 1.0 is the range

[tidal gull]

well i thought you were using an HCA file made for the previous method in phos, hence the need to decrypt it first

which vgaudio would need the key to do, but i've never used an encrypted file as input so idk where it'd look for that

[tidal gull]

build, get the error, then get the log (log.txt) file from here:

maybe you and honedheart are getting the same error, since their last attempt mentioned using a wav

[remote glen]

Oh bruh I think I may have just figured it out

[tidal gull]

moved files?

[remote glen]

That download of Phos came with some music replacements in the project but since the files don't exist on my pc they were failing to build. I went down the list and deleted the 3 files except for the file I wanted to replace

The music that was already in there were replacements for Mass Destruction -Reload-, It's Going Down Now, and Tartarus (thebel)

So ig as a heads up for anyone downloading that file, make sure to remove those before doing anything

[gloomy gate]

Oh yeah, I did notice that with the tutorial install of Phos

I had just removed them before I built anything, so ig I never ran into the issue

[tidal gull]

yeah generally you'd just get the project preset and create a new project, but phos still needs updating...

oh nice, didn't know you included an icon

[gloomy gate]

oh right, that may actually be leftover from when they grabbed my older project

I grabbed some stock Reload art

[tidal gull]

any luck? if not can you send me the file so i can do some testing?

[opal plaza]

nah im just using the old version of the audio mod to finish my first playthrough

i can send you the log file/hca files im using

[tidal gull]

yeah, but you also said you tested a wav and got the same error?

if so send both

[opal plaza]

I did yeah. I'll dm you in a bit.

[remote glen]

So I created the mod in reloaded and loaded up. The music sounds like a bunch of garbled robot sounds

[north frigate]

means it's encrypted with the wrong key

[remote glen]

I made sure sample rate was 44100 and bitrate was 16

[remote glen]

Dang I think I missed that step

What do you mean by key?

[prisma mason]

How do I add/edit an yaml file?

[north frigate]

actually phos should automatically encrypt with the correct keycode iirc... not actually sure how that happened

[north frigate]

oh wait. when you set your encoder what option did you pick

[remote glen]

HCA (Persona 3 Reload)

Maybe it was in a wrong load order in reloaded

Gonna try to experiment a bit

[river valve]

make sure you have this file when you pick HCA (Persona 3 Reload). It comes pre-installed so it should be there already. I made the same mistake and chose the wrong encoder in the selection

[remote glen]

Yeah I got that file. Not really sure what the deal is. I might just redo the process and try again

Well now it's just playing no battle music at all and keeps playing the Tartarus theme

I am stumped lol

[river valve]

is your audio file that you want to use Stereo? it'll work if it's that

[remote glen]

Ahh thx I'll try that

[remote glen]

WOOO it works!! Thx a bunch 🎉

[river valve]

:ShadowheartHype:

[errant wagon]

hi

i want ask some question

why when I add new music and it works, but I get a music bug When after the battle, the victory music goes mute

sorry my eng bad

[sinful cargo]

The tartarus dungeon music needs to be replaced in Ryo to fix this issue.

you can replace the dungeon music with the actual .hca files from the game, but they needed to be converted to .wav format and then converted back to .hca format.

[errant wagon]

not the tartarus but the victory after battle music

[sinful cargo]

are you replacing the victory music as well?

[errant wagon]

its work but got muted after playing 0.5 sec

[errant wagon]

no im use bgme

const p3r_bgm2 = random_song(10010, 10013)
const p3r_bgm3 = random_song(10020, 10022)

encounter["Normal Battles"]:
  music = battle_bgm(p3r_bgm1, p3r_bgm2, p3r_bgm3)
  victory_advantage_bgm = song(10031)
end```

[sinful cargo]

changing victory music with BGM isn't fully working right now

there's weird things with it

[errant wagon]

ah i see

thanks for information

[tidal gull]

Make your you have file extensions enabled in windows (search on youtube for how to enable.)
Right-click in a folder, create a text file, replace name including .txt.

[prisma mason]

So do I put

volume: 0.35

when it's in notepad, then change said txt file to yaml? Then where do i put the yaml file?

[tidal gull]

put it in the same folder as your file

with the same name too

[slow compass]

where am I supposed to look for this? I don't get it

[lusty elm]

Click on the mod in Reloaded then press Configure Mod

[slow compass]

Where then do I find the cue names? are they supposed to pop up in-game

[tidal gull]

enable show console in reloaded's settings

[slow compass]

oooh

thank you

[tidal gull]

the cue names will appear as they play, bgm starts with link_##

if you're doing BGM replacement though, download phos music manager from here: https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170

all the songs are set up for easy replacement

[slow compass]

ye it's awesome
just wanna replace some stuff idk the names of

[halcyon junco]

seems like vgaudio doesn't like 24bit wav

it was complaining about that and want me to downcovert it to 16bit

[river valve]

You can change that In Audacity to 16-bit PCM

[halcyon junco]

gotcha

[last dawn]

Do you need any experience with audio or Atlus audio file knowledge? I would say you do. So, I'm planning on learning the ropes but it's not clear how you are supposed to name the folder, how do you configure a .yaml file with preset instructions for a folder are yaml files a separate thing from Ryo, and how do you begin writing one for a folder then?

[remote glen]

Any idea why DLC music no longer works for me? I used to use this mod https://gamebanana.com/sounds/72455 but since it is now obsolete I uninstalled it. However the music still won't play when I swap to the tracks and continues playing the tartarus music instead

I even tried replacing Reach Out to the Truth with another track for example and it still doesn't play anything

[uneven pollen]

Same issue with me, just the tartarus theme is that plays

[tidal gull]

https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170

[tidal gull]

yeah some people have mentioned this issue, not sure what's causing it rn

[tranquil violet]

you gotta replace the tartarus block music

[remote glen]

All of them?

[tranquil violet]

i think so yeah

[uneven pollen]

thats what i did and still got the problem

[errant wagon]

does anyone know why this is?
and how to fix it?
even though I didn't add or change the victory sound.
Sorry for the bad video, because my laptop can't record it if I don't lower the graphic quality

[errant wagon]

this is the mod file:
https://github.com/AnikoCh/P3R-Metal-BGM/tree/main

[tame sorrel]

So is "Title_Env_Dark" the title theme? Any way to have music play on it?

[tidal gull]

just replace it like normal, all new audio is played as bgm

it's slightly buggy if you go to config/wait for movie since the game doesn't expect music there but that's usually not an issue

[tame sorrel]

Perfect, thanks, I'll give it a try

[dull girder]

If you want it to duck out when the opening/intro cutscene plays, you can set category_ids to 1 and 13 and player_id to 2, but for some reason this will make it spike to max volume once you get past the 'press start' screen.
been trying to figure out how to make that one play nice for a bit, but can't seem to.

[tame sorrel]

Yeah, I noticed that the music just cuts when going to config as well

Currently the issue I'm having is the volume for songs that aren't replaced being pretty quiet

[dull girder]

probably weirdness with Title_Env_Dark being sfx.
and with the quietness issue, try making a config.yaml in the main P3R folder of the mod with category_ids: [0, 13]

[tidal gull]

this is actually fixed just haven't updated it

[dull girder]

about to test if that causes issues with things like the audio ducking for rank-up events, I ran into that one when replacing the audio for Joy with the original P3 version, it needs id 21 in there to duck out properly

[dull girder]

ah, good to know

[tidal gull]

if you dont feel like waiting you can add the config.yaml with:

volume: 0.15
category_ids: [0, 13]

[tame sorrel]

Oh nice, I'll give that a try, it's not a major issue since I didn't alter any of the music volume, it's only the vanilla music being quiet

[dull girder]

been messing with this for a couple of days on my own working on restoring as much of the original P3 OST as I can, solving issues as I find them by myself instead of doing the smart thing and joining here to ask questions XD

[tame sorrel]

I've done a similar thing but it's more of a mishmash of different Persona 3/4/5 songs I like, much of it replacing the DLC themes

[gloomy gate]

@tidal gull idk if this'll help with hashing out issues with Ryo/BGME, but I put out a mod that swaps out most of the soundtrack just now: https://gamebanana.com/sounds/72617

[reef flare]

Dumb question, where is the BGME script in downloaded mod? Wanted to see an example of a completed one but don't see a .pme anywhere

[gloomy gate]

Ah, I mostly just added BGME as a dependency just in case

[reef flare]

that would do it

you just used Ryo framework entirely?

[gloomy gate]

indeed

I didn't need to add any new music slots or randomization, so I just didn't

real convenient that Reload has Battle Advantage and night time overworld music already

Though I guess I could randomize Your Affection and Heartbeat, Heartbreak 🤔

@tidal gull welp, I ended up catching an issue, albeit something of a small one

the Social Link rank up music and the already playing music overlap

at least if both are replaced, like in the mod I sent

[reef flare]

Ah I see, so rather than needing to define any logic you just swapped 1 for 1

[tidal gull]

that's weird they should both have the same categories and player not sure how they could overlap

there's also the thing with dlc bgm not replacing

[dull girder]

well
I've finished restoring the original soundtrack I think
I don't have saves all through the game to test every song, but theoretically it's all good.
and technically it's not entirely the original, When the moon's reaching out stars is using the P3D version since it's essentially the original but more

gonna wait to upload it anywhere until the ryo audio framework update mentioned earlier though

[north frigate]

Just remember you can't upload it in here / on gamebanana

[dull girder]

Yeah, I definitely get why there too

[halcyon junco]

Would people be able to ask about it on your DM?

[dull girder]

I mean, I'd rather my DMs not get flooded by that, personally XD
I'll find a place for it when the ryo update is out, though

[halcyon junco]

Thanks

[dull girder]

music playing before the social link rank up music needs category ID 21 in its ids to be properly ducked out

ran into the same issue myself

err
ok it's not working anymore
hm.

I could swear I'd figured that out.

[tidal gull]

did you set it to just the file itself or the folder

[dull girder]

Originally, just the file itself, but changed to an 'event' folder to catch any song that might transition into a rank up.
About to retest with no folder-wide config.yamls

works fine with no folder-wide config.yamls
...I wonder

[dull girder]

maybe caused by this placeholder fix, which I am using at the moment?
About to test

ok, not that one.
time to slowly readd the yamls until it breaks again

ok, well
I found it
I don't understand it, but I found it
strangeness with my field music folder config.yaml.

whatever TownMap_Carrier is, it apparently messes with the social link rank up event even when no song from that folder is... even playing?

ah well, it's good now

[dull girder]

so, yes, this still stands

[last dawn]

The guide doesn't help or solve any problems, I'm not trying to replace just a BGM as well. The tutorial tells you what to do but not why or how you are doing it, for example creating a yaml file. It tells you to do that, but how do you start doing that is it with Phos music manager or should I have another program? Going to continue some attempts today, but this sort of feels like you needed prior ATLUS file knowledge that isn't in the guide.

[tranquil violet]

quite literally nowhere on that tutorial does it say to make a yaml

[last dawn]

A different one.

That's about non BGM sound replacement.

[tranquil violet]

then why reply to a post linking a tutorial that isn't the one you're complaining about

[last dawn]

Both are linked somewhere in this thread.

[placid saffron]

anyone has the cueID that plays after you beat the game

Memories of the School post-game one

[north frigate]

You can check it yourself by enabling developer mode with Ryo and getting it to play in-game if you have a completed save. It'll show up in the console as link_##

[north frigate]

I did notice that when using these category ids I had music overlap with the social link rank up screen

on pc now so i can easily post (emperor rank 4)

[quiet mesa]

rank up music is a sound effect so maybe thats why

[tame sorrel]

Can confirm this is happening to me as well although for me the DLC music remains the same, despite using Phos to replace them

Every other song replaces just fine

Could be due to how they're named since they show up as link_Sound[insertnumberhere] instead of link_[insertnumberhere]

[last dawn]

Creating a .Yaml file, is that in a guide orrrr?

Ryo also doesn't seem to be picking up voice clips in log do I need to make it detect character voices. It's only picking up sound effects and such.

Is it even possible for it to replace voice clips, on the guide it said voiced events have a cue name as well. So I just assumed.

[tranquil violet]

anyone seen this error trying to edit volume with yaml?

oh my god im an idiot NEVERMIND

[remote glen]

Yeah I noticed that as well. I'm not really sure what to do to get it working yet. Might just wait until more info is found out about it. I even tried validating the files in Steam and the DLC music still doesn't play so it's as if the DLC is permanently jacked up unless a fix is discovered

[tame sorrel]

I managed to fix it by playing each DLC song and finding out the actual link file name, turns out it's link_1000 onwards

Just setting up the loop values again

[remote glen]

Oh wow thanks for the information, you're a lifesaver! Gonna go ahead and fix it as soon as I get back on my computer 🙌🏻

[tame sorrel]

You're welcome, it should start from Reach Out To The Truth which is link_1000.hca for example

There's a gap between Fog and Last Surprise which is meant to be 1005

So it skips a number there

[remote glen]

So Time to Make History is 1001?

[tame sorrel]

That's correct

[remote glen]

Awesome

[tame sorrel]

After Throw Your Mask Away which is link 1010, there's a big jump again

[remote glen]

Idec about having P4 and 5 music in P3R tbh. I just wanna use more themes from all the variations of P3 like Portable, Reincarnation, the movies etc

[tame sorrel]

Yeah that's fair, I've been doing that too by replacing some with songs from Portable and Q/Q2

Also replaced some of the P5 music with Strikers

[remote glen]

Oh yeah the Q music is fire

[uncut veldt]

I was going to release a randomized music pack for P3R to add at least some of those songs for battles, but I put off releasing it because swine had expressed interest in coming up with a solution that used the in-game BGM menu

[tame sorrel]

Ooh that sounds like a cool idea if it's possible to add more entries, maybe even a random toggle on there

[north frigate]

That gap is for the victory music. 1005 is p4's victory theme, 1011 is p5's

All documented here https://amicitia.miraheze.org/wiki/Persona_3_Reload/BGM

[tame sorrel]

Ah thanks, I gotta correct that too since it shows up as link_Sound_Result_02 for me

[north frigate]

Oh interesting

[tame sorrel]

All of the dlc music shown up as link_Sound and it didn't play, not sure if that was a preset or something so I'm just correcting all of that

[uncut veldt]

that's what we were talking about, yeah. right now the only solution that is working uses the R2 config menu to set songs

[sinful cargo]

I've just been manually building

as far as music randomization goes

I basically took a theme file from Persona Randomized Battle Themes and edited it down to the songs I wanted

[uncut veldt]

that solution is working right now but it's unreleased, and well it's not super ideal lol

[sinful cargo]

(and also took the .hca files)

only thing about the in game menu, even if DLC tracks can be replaced, is it replaces boss music too

which I don't want

so

I'd rather not have to remember to turn it off before I do a full moon lol

[tame sorrel]

Maybe there's a way to override that somehow, have the boss music take priority or something

[sinful cargo]

maybe

[tame sorrel]

It's really bizarre how the boss music is affected too though, I mean unless I wanted I'll Face Myself or Blooming Villain to play

[sinful cargo]

fwiw, P3R's DLC is bizarre period

[tame sorrel]

True that

[sinful cargo]

like the art book and soundtrack are fucking apps

that cant be tabbed out of

without pausing

[remote glen]

What they should've done with the DLC is make it like the Atelier games where you can individually choose what themes affect normal battles and boss fights

[tame sorrel]

Even the P5 dlc allowed music to play only in normal battles (the caviat being it was tied to the costumes)

[remote glen]

They probably thought it was an improvement but in reality it's just questionable.

[tame sorrel]

Replacing the sfx sure went well (spoilers for those who haven't reached this far I guess)

[uncut veldt]

it is really bad

[ionic hearth]

right now this is the best solution I've got for random BGM, but because it uses Ryo it is also subject to Ryo's bugs

Brawler

anyone wanna test this just to make sure nothing breaks horribly?

Jump

[Go to message!](#1089998902616395776 message)

persona_randomized_battle_themes_-p3r_ver_-1_0_0.7z

Download

#BGME (Music customization for P4G 64-bit, P3P, and P5R)

[tame sorrel]

Was trying to replace the sfx for the evoker but doing so stops the music from playing, also get this message immediately afterwards

Also makes the music really quiet afterwards, specifically the vanilla music

[lucid thicket]

the Riff error on phos means I have a bad wav yea?

[remote glen]

So I changed the name to link_1000 for Reach Out to The Truth and I'm still having the same issue. Am I missing something?

[tame sorrel]

Did you change it in Phos?

[remote glen]

No I just renamed it in the mod I created already. Is that the issue?

[tame sorrel]

I'd convert it with phos just to be sure since the .hca file would need to be created with that in mind

[remote glen]

Ok I'll give that a try

[sinful cargo]

I don't think that'll make a difference

but you can try

[tame sorrel]

Make sure to change the Output to link_1000.hca

[tame sorrel]

Can't hurt to try, but if it doesn't work then there's something else going on

[sinful cargo]

the DLC BGM is just kinda fucky to begin with

it should work to simply rename it to the link you wanna replace

[remote glen]

Yeah that works for all the non DLC replacements I tried so I assumed it would for this too

[sinful cargo]

if it worked like other tracks

it would

[remote glen]

And it's definitely not the files because they work if I replace other tracks

[sinful cargo]

but presumably since the way it's called is different than other tracks (since it's an in-game menu that configures whether it's on or off and it replaces multiple tracks at once)

it clearly isn't that simple

[remote glen]

Yeah just tried the Phos method and it still doesn't work so something is up

[tame sorrel]

Do you have developer mode on for Ryo Framework?

Try playing Reach Out For The Truth to see if it plays it on the console window

[remote glen]

I'll try that

[tame sorrel]

You might want to try another mod someone has made that replaces the DLC files to rule that out

[remote glen]

It doesn't show up on the log at all

[sinful cargo]

Again

DLC music is weird

I’d recommend using BGME Battle Themes instead if you want to do battle music

Keep Ryo framework because you’ll need it

But

[tame sorrel]

It's still strange though since it worked perfectly for me but yeah that'd be easier

[remote glen]

I haven't tried BGME yet. I'll have to look into getting it set up

[north frigate]

yea thats weird. do you have any other files that might conflict with it maybe? it should show up when you either enter a battle or play the song from the dlc bgm menu

[remote glen]

Ok I just played it from the menu and it only says 1000

Not link_1000

Just "1000"

Suuuuper strange

[sinful cargo]

ok you can try just making it 1000.hca

but I'm not sure if that'll work

[remote glen]

At this point may as well lol

[north frigate]

oh thats weird yeah

[remote glen]

Yeah and it doesn't play anything. It just continues with the Tartarus theme

Bruh

So renaming it 1000 worked

[tame sorrel]

Lol, so I guess in your case it's just 1000, 1001 etc

[remote glen]

Why is my game different than Zuku's? Lol

[uneven pollen]

i should try that too

[tame sorrel]

Just out of curiosity is your version the steam or Gamepass verison?

[remote glen]

Steam

[tame sorrel]

Yeah that's weird then lol

Mine is steam too

[north frigate]

yea im wondering why it even changed the link_xxxx thing in the first place...

[remote glen]

Yea fr

[tame sorrel]

I wonder if "link" is optional

[remote glen]

Well at least now it's solved

[north frigate]

ive seen it change the #s to be without the link_ before but only when using a bgme mod

i can test mine without the link_ really quick but i dont expect it to work

[remote glen]

Maybe it's cause I have BGME installed but never used it?

I made my replacements require Ryo though

Idk

[tame sorrel]

Did you have BGME installed prior to doing all of this?

[north frigate]

you don't have bgme (or anything other than ryo) set as a dependancy right?

or any other mods active?

[remote glen]

I had it installed but never did anything with it

[tame sorrel]

That could be why then

[remote glen]

But yea only Ryo set as dependency

Could very well be

[tame sorrel]

But then wait, only the DLC themes are 1000, 1001 right? Are the basegame songs named with link in your folder?

[remote glen]

Yep those are link

Only the DLC themes are without it

[sinful cargo]

I just think it's DLC tracks being stupid

I don't think BGME changes the way the game understands tracks

like I don't think it'd change it to just the numbers internally

[uneven pollen]

that fixed my issue as well

so weird

[remote glen]

Yea very weird

[sinful cargo]

BGME takes a track at, say, 1000, and makes the game read it as link_1000, at least as I understand it

[remote glen]

Yeah that's what I don't get either

[sinful cargo]

My best guess is, again, the DLC tracks being called differently than normal ones

especially since there needs to be some mechanism to prevent them from randomly appearing if you have it off or if you do not own the DLC

so I feel something on the backend in that regard may be it

after all, the .awb lists the tracks as streaming_sound_XX

as opposed to just streaming

[north frigate]

yea it's just really weird that some people's games have the link_ and some don't. it would add some troubleshooting for public mods that replace the dlc if half of the games call "link_10XX" and half just call "10XX"

[tidal gull]

that's on me

bgme has to manually play new music, anything with an id > 400 is considered new music

[sinful cargo]

but theyre not using BGME

so

aka their mod doesn't use it as a dependency

(though maybe just having it at all is causing it?)

[tidal gull]

they do though ^

[sinful cargo]

ahhhhhhhhhhh

[tidal gull]

in other games it was save to assume anything more than the max cue was not music

idk why they decided to add music in the 1k 😭

[sinful cargo]

again, since it's DLC, I'm assuming that's meant to keep it out of reach of anything that could possibly call it without intending to

[north frigate]

oh alr yea it is bgme doing that. turned it on and it dropped the link_

[sinful cargo]

oop

stupid question but does BGME work without Ryo? Not that I'm getting rid of Ryo I just am confused slightly lmao

[tidal gull]

well in p5r they couldn't even be called, it'd just replace existing music of the outfit ACB/AWB were loaded

since the game has a music player, maybe that's why they have their own cue names

[sinful cargo]

no I know, I just meant the devs put it at a high number because it's DLC

[tidal gull]

what's the range of dlc bgm ids?

[tame sorrel]

They all go from 1000 I think

[sinful cargo]

aint it like

1000 to 1010 or smth like that

or like 1020

[tame sorrel]

1000-1037 is the range for it, since the victory themes repeat themselves

Although it jumps from 1010 to 1020

[uneven pollen]

Reach out to the truth: 1000
Time to make history 1001
Ill face myself -battle 1002
New world fool 1003
The fog 1004
last surpise 1006
take over 1007
rivers in desert 1008
jaldaboath 1009
throw away your mask 1010

[tame sorrel]

It's all here too

https://amicitia.miraheze.org/wiki/Persona_3_Reload/BGM

[tidal gull]

https://github.com/T-PoseRatkechi/BGME/releases

if anyone can test specifically on the steam version

[tame sorrel]

Do you want me to test to see if the cues change with BGME installed?

[last dawn]

Asked in GB, does Ryo Audio support replacing voice lines in the description on GB it says their are cue names for voiced events do they appear on log? It didn't look like it to me, but I did see some things in log that looked like audio files for the event but they were posted late not in the beginning.

[tame sorrel]

I'm not sure if the log allows for voiced lines to appear, but I feel it's definitely possible to replace voice lines provided you know the filename for them, it's the same with sfx

[sinful cargo]

this is specifically the P3R version yes? Cause if not then other BGME mods with tracks in 1000-1037 would break

I assume

[last dawn]

Knowing the filename is hard if you don't see in logs, no? Unless it's logged on Amcitia, I'll check there but I feel voiced lines should be made to appear the same as everything else.

[tame sorrel]

Yeah I agree, I think the log doesn't show the voice lines for a reason as it shows everything else

Only BGM is logged on Amcitia at the moment, I tried the same when I was looking for specific sfx

[tidal gull]

are these not the voice lines?

[tidal gull]

@tame sorrel yeah, it should fix it redirecting anything with the id 1000 to 1100

and also hopefully hooks the origin bgm function fixing some other random bugs people have had

[north frigate]

yea it does show voices

i wanna assume event dialogue all start from Cue1 and just have different Player IDs but i havent checked that hard

seems like it actually yea

(from this very brief glance) generic interjections seem like they're all on player ID 4, and events with full dialogue are on their own player IDs, with cue IDs starting at 1 and going up as the event goes on

[tame sorrel]

Nuice, I didn't realize it was named that way, that'll be good to know

[worn canopy]

Ok so I'm having a weird issue
when I boot into the game on a save that's inside the dorm at the evening I get a music volume bug that makes replaced tracks way louder and vanilla ones way quieter than normal
but if I boot into the game during the afternoon in school everything's fine

this is sth I can 100% reproduce each time

[last dawn]

Are those really the voiced lines? Message is the sound effect for the boxes appearing I think and cue just seems like nothing from my experience. Since the same message can be Cue1 or Cue2 it just counts upwards no matter what even if it plays the same voiced lines...? I'll go look again, just seemed like repeated occurrences.

[last dawn]

Wait o so are the cue name player_id?

[north frigate]

the cue name is the CueXXX

idk how to specify for files to replace a specific player ID's cues tho

[tame sorrel]

Have you checked any fully voiced lines?

[last dawn]

Think it just depends on how you named the folder, as long as they don't have the same player ID and you use different folders so none of them overlap? But does this apply to voiced events too?

[tame sorrel]

Oh wait you have, nvm

[tidal gull]

there isn't a way right now, and if what max said is true, multiple voice files use the same name

idk if i'd recommend replacing voice lines until they can be tied to specific ACBs

[last dawn]

O wait ur right, can that not be solved by having specified folders in your mod folder?

Or does player id stuff not care if your folder is named after a different event name.

[tidal gull]

for voice lines the game creates new players left and right

can't reliably tie a name to player since it might be used by someone else on another run

[last dawn]

Would it just be better to edit the raw audio file then, huh?

For now.

[tame sorrel]

Funnily enough two school student NPCs had voice clips and their cue IDs are right next to each other

And this one is Yukari saying "Hey there"

[remote glen]

Welp ran into another issue. As soon as the DLC music plays, all other non DLC music volume decreases

[tame sorrel]

Ah do you have a config.yaml in your P3R folder?

[remote glen]

For example the Tartarus music is regular volume and then as soon as I get out of battle the music is now much quieter

I believe so

Let me check

[tame sorrel]

Check if it has the following in

volume: 0.15
category_ids: [0, 13]

[remote glen]

category_ids are [0, 3, 13, 18]

Would that matter?

Or should I delete 3 and 8

[tame sorrel]

Yeah change it to just 0 and 13 just in case

Since I had that issue when I added title screen music, it made everything else quieter

[tame sorrel]

You can give it a try, for example with the rank 9-10 for the student council, these were the cue IDs, it seems like they start with 1 and go up, the scene changed to the roof and the player ID changed, resetting the cue IDs to 1 again

[remote glen]

That worked. Thanks!

Also you managed to add music to the title screen?

[tame sorrel]

Glad it worked, and yeah although I had to replace the sfx that was playing in the title screen, so it's a bit buggy

[remote glen]

Ahh gotcha

[tame sorrel]

Just an example

[remote glen]

That's really awesome. Only downside is the music seems to cut off by going back out of the options

[tame sorrel]

I fixed that now but it's still buggy, since it's technically sfx, it's messing with the volume of the other sfx

[remote glen]

I think you would have to add a new bgm slot along with a script that makes it play on the menu but I have no idea how to do that or if it's currently possible

Also I figured out why it was doing the volume thing

I tried to replace the p4 victory theme with another track

When it's replaced it does that. Haven't figured out a fix yet

[tame sorrel]

The P4 victory theme is one of the 1000 cues you have so maybe it's not pointing to that

[sinful cargo]

The DLC victory themes also have like

Two different cues

[remote glen]

I fully uninstalled BGME to make sure there's no more incompatibilities

Wait

Maybe that's it

The 2nd cue

[sinful cargo]

That depend on whether it’s the regular DLC or the EX DLC

[remote glen]

Yeah I just did 1005

So I need 1027 too?

[sinful cargo]

Maybe

Idk

I haven’t messed with victory themes

[remote glen]

Only reason I did is cause it's awkward having P4's victory theme playing after a P3 track

[tame sorrel]

Is it for Reach Out For The Truth?

If so, then 1005 should be fine

[remote glen]

Yeah problem is it screws the volume and sometimes disables the Tartarus theme after battles

It's really wonky. But disabling the mod that changes the victory theme fixes everything

Yea adding the 1027 replacement did nothing

[placid saffron]

i converted the songs, and when i play it just plays some garble static

did i do something wrong

[north frigate]

in Phos make sure you set your encoder to HCA (Persona 3 Reload)

[silk gyro]

So, is there a fix for Going Down Now and Mass Desctruction? I tried to replace it by encoding it at HCA method and Ryo framework but it seems it's just a weird sounds playing. Any fix guys?

Can't seem to fix it

[hot plover]

did you use Phos?

[river valve]

I'd use Phos Music Manager. It made replacing music easier. Make sure for the audio file you use, that the sample rate is 44100, is 16-bit PCM, and is Stereo. And when you select the encoder, pick "HCA (Persona 3 Reload)". This tutorial helps
https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170

[silk gyro]

Yeah, I've followed tutorial and replaced several tracks in game but it's seems to be only issue with those two tracks

And I used Phos, yeah

Maybe problem is that I used Mono for the replacement but lemme check again

[river valve]

Mono and 48000 sample rate will cause the static noises

[silk gyro]

Yeah, I used stereo but didn't see it was set on 48000 lol. Lemme try 44100.

Hm, I'm rendering it in audacity and swapping it to 16bit-PCM but when I put it back to check it keeps telling me it's 32bit float

[river valve]

right click the track and go to format, it should be keeping the change

[silk gyro]

Got it, lemme try that

[river valve]

could also set it in the preferences the next times you launch audacity to make it less of a hassle

[silk gyro]

Yeah, it helped. Thanks. Lemme encode it with HCA and try it ingame

[river valve]

one more thing, for the track, leave it at 48000 because if you change it to something else lower/higher, the pitch will change for the music

[silk gyro]

Yeah, I got around it somehow, I set project at 44100, not the track itself

[river valve]

Pretty good

[silk gyro]

Nah, still got those weird noises

Even after lowering track to 44100 and 16bit PCM

[river valve]

if you have this ini file, select the HCA (Persona 3 Reload) encoder, it's at the bottom of the dropdown

[silk gyro]

It picks me where should I even begin with searching for a solution myself, as I'm not that into programming and understanding how this even works but I appreciate that somehow community found a way to replace bgm with own tracks

[silk gyro]

Oh, so I gotta choose HCA (Persona 3 Reload) encoder, hm, lemme try that one

[river valve]

it's okay, it happens. I had to trial and error to find out things

[silk gyro]

Yeah, got it working. Thanks for the solution. So yeah, Got three questions here as novice in that kinda thing.

[river valve]

[silk gyro]

1. Should I encode all tracks from onward with HCA (Persona 3 Reload) or I should be good with encoding it with base HCA? Cause I got tracks that I encoded with basic HCA and they working perfectly.

2. About loop points and volume for those tracks. I saw previous messages about volume ingame but it still bothers me, how do I increase volume for ingame replaced tracks? And about loop point. As I remember correctly, I modded some tracks in P3Fes through ADX encoding, and there I was using loop points for the tracks not to be played from beginning at start again and again. So I kinda forgot how to even make those Loop points through Audacity. So question is - how to make loop points in Audacity and make them work in game through PhosMusicManager? (As I saw there was an option for choosing start sample point

[river valve]

HCA (Persona 3 Reload) for P3R music replacement

[silk gyro]

Ok, got it. Thanks

[river valve]

At the bottom of the screen in audacity, you can select it to display the timeline in Samples and that's what the loop points are based on.

At the top of the screen, click Transport and then Looping to turn on looping. You gotta manually find loop points and write down the loop in and loop out sample numbers. To get a seamless loop, you have to make sure the loop points are on zero points (like the image below). Find similar wave patterns and use your listening to find a music pattern

For increasing volume, I feel like you can increase the volume in audacity idk if it's reliable.
Sorry if it doesn't make sense

[silk gyro]

Out of curiosty whered you get that theme for audacity lol

[river valve]

in the interface section in the preferences

[silk gyro]

Should it loop in game when I'm gonna set it to preferable loop point in phos? Sorry if I got my question wrong but I want track to start playing from loop point I set after track is done playing. To start it with intro and then it should be played from loop point 1

[tidal gull]

that's how loop points work, assuming i understand what you mean

[silk gyro]

Yeah my question was is it gonna work that way

[tidal gull]

the song plays from the beginning, when it hits the end loop point it goes back to the start loop point

[silk gyro]

Oh, okay. Gonna test that. Thanks

I thought it will be playing just from sample point, not from beginning

[silk gyro]

About sound level tbh its peaking in audacity but in game it plays beneath the sfx

[river valve]

at the top right, you can set the playback volume at around 70-80% so it doesn't blast your eardrums when listening to it in audacity. But to change the volume of the track, it's on the left side where the plus and minus are. You can increase that by a few decibels, for me I did +2 or +3

[silk gyro]

Still didn't quite get how to mark those loop points. Sorry for my bad knowledge. I got those numbers for samples position and I just want to mark that as Loop Point one. I remember that It was render menu maybe where I insert those loop numbers in as loop point one. Or maybe it was different software...

[river valve]

highlight the track and try to set loop to selection and enable looping

there should be a thing at the top that you can drag to adjust where the Starting loop will be. You just have to find a location in the music to drag it to. And then the loop end will be at the end of the track. You drag that to before the outro of the song but will flow back to the starting loop that's near the beginning of the song

[river valve]

For example, the loop points in the track look like this

[silk gyro]

I'm stupid guys. Sorry. Didn't know that in phos you can actually type whatever digit you want besides of 1,2,3 etc. Lemme explain. Soft I was working with (AtomENCD) back in the day, there was an option to toggle those loop points manually. And I didn't know that it was possible in phos. So in Audacity we have a 9 digit number. So for example, if I wish that my track would start from 000,931,261 samples, than I should write 000,931,261 in Start Sample prompt, correct?

[river valve]

without the zeroes at the beginning, yes

[silk gyro]

So it would be just 931,261 - right? But what for those numbers? Do they count too?

Can I use them in prompt too?

[river valve]

It'd be 931261. The samples for the loop point samples in audacity count for the samples in Phos. just make sure you're using the same file that you used in audacity when you were finding the loop points

[silk gyro]

Yeah, gonna test it rn, thanks for help

[river valve]

there's not any editing you have to do, just find loop points and write down the sample numbers for them

like this

[silk gyro]

Yeah, worked perfectly

Thanks a lot! Gonna play with sound levels a bit

[river valve]

thumbsup~2

[hexed cipher]

Anyone got a short guide for adding randomized music for P3R? Tried following the P5R guide and got confused

[sinful cargo]

that uses BGME

[hexed cipher]

That I'm aware, should have specified that myb

[sinful cargo]

first of all

#1089998902616395776

[hexed cipher]

tyty

[hot plover]

If I make a mod that has changes to the script, can I pack a Ryo mod with it

or do they have to be separate mods

[hot plover]

something like this i mean

[hot plover]

It works 👍

[placid saffron]

Link_98 is not an unused theme because it plays AFTER you beat the game

Like this for example

[hot plover]

Since Ryo logs CueIDs, is it feasible to replace voice lines with Ryo as well?

Or not recommended?

[hot plover]

I'm trying to replace one of Nyx's lines (Player ID is 71)

and not exactly sure how the syntax for the yaml for that would work

[tidal gull]

you but it's not recommended since cue names are reused between characters, though maybe nyx would be an exception?

i don't think player ids are super reliable, honestly would probably not recommend voice replacing yet.

i should probably add -1 player id as an option to use the cue's current player

[hot plover]

i see

using the normal method then

[hexed cipher]

Where should config.yaml be for configuring volume? I tried putting it in MOD_FOLDER\Ryo\P3R with one line:

volume: 0.30

When trying it in-game, the change is not recognized and is still seen as Volume: 0.15

[tidal gull]

it should be getting picked up there

to be safe, do you have file extensions enabled in windows?

[hexed cipher]

I do

it's also seen as a YAML file type on explorer

The console says [15:40:23] [Ryo (P3R)] [DBG] Modified volume. Player ID: 0 || Category ID: 0 || Volume: 0,15

[tidal gull]

in the console window, did you see your config get printed out?

with debug logging, it should've appeared when it starts adding files from the folder

[hexed cipher]

nope, it did not print out

what debug level should it be?

[tidal gull]

debug

hoping it's not some kind of encoding thing since I see a , instead of .

[hexed cipher]

How it looks for me in file explorer for reference

going to test your config file now

Log from the latest session with your config.yaml. No output was printed and volume was not adjusted

[tidal gull]

that's weird, and i just tested adding it to battle themes generated folder and it worked fine for me

new build in 4 mins that'll have better log messages

[hexed cipher]

🫡

[north frigate]

oh that explains why mod loader enabled added the blur texture

[hexed cipher]

@tidal gull for reference, when could the config.yaml print to the console?

[tidal gull]

very early on

right before it starts listing the cues assigned

[hexed cipher]

Does not show up for me

what the path for config.yaml, just to double check?

[tidal gull]

the folder

any folder under Ryo/P3R can have a config.yaml

[tranquil violet]

yeah

sonic has it in just P3R

no subfolder

which afaik you need a subfolder right

[tidal gull]

no even that folder is fine, they're all loaded the same way

[tranquil violet]

huh

weeeeeird

[hexed cipher]

I just got an update for BGME Batthe Themes and Framework API

[tidal gull]

https://github.com/T-PoseRatkechi/Ryo/releases

forgot to send new build, it'll hopefully have a better log if it's failing to parse the file

[tidal gull]

just updating everything to the current P3R versions, technically only BGME P3R/Ryo actually updates from the P3R page lol

[hexed cipher]

tyty

Should I do anything else after updating? The log didn't really seem to change in terms of output

[tidal gull]

no, should've logged if it failed to parse the file somehow

the only other thing it could possibly be is if the file exists check is failing for some reason, like permissions or something

[hexed cipher]

Could it be affected by some ModConfig.json?

Guessing it's just a misprint on the zip

[tidal gull]

yeah that doesn't matter

[hexed cipher]

🤔 🤔

[tidal gull]

check here in 4 mins (in case i forget to respond again): https://github.com/T-PoseRatkechi/Ryo/releases

it'll log whenever it's loading a user config, if you don't see that message then it legitimately can't see the file

probably cause of permissions or something

[hexed cipher]

okii, checking in 5

[tranquil violet]

turns out sonic's reloaded-ii folder is in sys32 somehow

(joke)

[hexed cipher]

My log after installing the new update

Am I doing something wrong?

since the log isn't changing?

like where I put the update or config.yaml's location

[tidal gull]

you only have one folder of ryo in the reloaded mods folder right?

[hexed cipher]

I figured it out

or, more like the log helped here lol

it's supposed to be in MOD_FOLDER/BGME/P3R

now the config popped up in the console

[tidal gull]

ahhhhhhhh im so dumb lmao

i even knew it was for battle themes

[hexed cipher]

it works, gave a jumpscare but it worked 👍🏿

thanks for all the help ^^

[tidal gull]

@last dawn @quiet mesa cues are now associated with an ACB. for voice lines you'll have to create a config.yaml in the folder with the voice files then add the following:

acb_name: ACB_NAME_HERE

# May or may not require others.
category_ids: [2, 15]

With dev mode enabled it'll show the ACB name to use with the cue that played.

https://github.com/T-PoseRatkechi/Ryo/releases/tag/1.3.0

[hot plover]

🙏 this will be so useful

[quiet mesa]

@lethal patrol

[lethal patrol]

Hell yeah. I’ll get to trying it out this weekend.

[last dawn]

Peaked

[tranquil violet]

im braindead, is this better voice line functionality in ryo?

[tidal gull]

yeah, in the case of duplicate cue names for different characters

[hot plover]

What about sound effects?

since its acbs I assume i can do those as well as long as I have the names for the files

[tidal gull]

yeah though you'd probably need to use different categories

all of them are on the mod page

[hot plover]

since its SE, would the category id for those be [1,14] ?

[tidal gull]

probably

[hot plover]

alright, thanks!

[tidal gull]

lmk if you get any issues with bgm clashing with it; rn i think they're all playing using that player

[hot plover]

Apparently the change I'm trying to make is to the system acb

testing it out now

wait, Ryo doesn't show the player ID anymore in the console

doesn't seem to be working for stream

Here's what I did for the yaml

cue_name: Fld_Encount
category_ids: [3,18]```

the file name is the same as what the cue name is displayed on the reloaded console

i tried changing it to link_37 (37 is the id in the acb) and didn't work either

[tidal gull]

if you have dev mode it'll log the the acb name it's associated with

it's probably just system, no file extension in p3r's case

[hot plover]

Oh right it's uassets for P3R

[hot plover]

Ye that's where I got the Fld_Encount from

I'll try again tomorrow it's like 2am 🛌

Thanks for your help!!

[hot plover]

alright, tried again

garbled audio, triple checked if i'd gotten the keycode wrong or something but no

[tidal gull]

what key did you use

[hot plover]

48936317374667840 for the system acb

[tidal gull]

ryo doesn't actually process the audio outside of just loading it into memory

ryo expects audio to use the base key for encryption, not acb specific keys

[hot plover]

Ahhh

so should i just have used Phos

[tidal gull]

yeh, specifically the version on the music modding guide

[hot plover]

gotcha, let me try once more

[hot plover]

the sound I'm replacing is the leadup to the battle, however it seems to be repeating the sound that plays before it

though Ryo definitely changed the sound no doubt

[tidal gull]

did you remember to untick the loop button in Phos? if it's still happening despite that send me the mod to test

[hot plover]

Did

Not at home rn but will send here when back

[tidal gull]

Added movie support with randomization: https://github.com/T-PoseRatkechi/Ryo/releases/tag/1.3.1
Replace/add new files for movies either by:

• Adding a .usm to MOD_FOLDER/Ryo/P3R with the same name as the game file (ex: MS_Event_Main_100_010_M_Movi.usm)
• Creating a folder with the same name as as the game file (ex: MS_Event_Main_100_010_M_Movi.usm but as a folder ✨ ). Any files added to that folder will be assigned to the file.

If a movie has more than 1 file assigned to it it'll randomly pick one. IRyoApi also has a AddMoviePath for conditionally adding new files/folders.
@quiet mesa

[meager sentinel]

music that replaces "Joy" don't stop when the Arcana cutscene plays

[tidal gull]

i think those songs need the rank up modulator category

category_ids: [0, 13, 21]

[meager sentinel]

I have no clue how to set those

[tidal gull]

create a text file named: FILE_NAME.yaml in the same folder as your song file, replacing FILE_NAME with the name of your file. Then just edit in a text editor like Notepad.

Make sure you enable file extensions in windows (search it up on youtube if you haven't)

[sinful cargo]

Not that it’s important for me at this point but does the same need to be done for the final Tartarus block theme? I had the same issue of it continuing through the rank up music.

Also, do categories have something to do with why BGME Battle Themes keep getting ignored with Monad mini bosses?

[tidal gull]

don't know what cue ids = what song off hand, but i'd assume any song where a rank up might happen needs it (so probably yes to your question)

[sinful cargo]

It’s cue ID 81 I believe

[tidal gull]

there's like 10 songs I think, honestly sure if it'd break anything to just have it on all of them as default (besides the rank up bgm itself)

that cue doesn't seem to have it

85 does though

[sinful cargo]

Which is 85?

[sinful cargo]

Oh

[tidal gull]

the final tartarus song should be tartarus_0d06 i think

[sinful cargo]

Yeah that’d explain why the music didn’t mute right with those rank ups

[sinful cargo]

Nah I know, that’s why I knew the ID was 81

Since I’ve been doing the thing to replace Tartarus with themselves

[tidal gull]

81 is the third song

[sinful cargo]

Wait what

Oh

[tidal gull]

isn't it?

cue 74 does have the rank up category

love how they're all in order except for 3 lmao

[sinful cargo]

What about 75?

I know there’s two different cues so

Maybe one of them just. Doesn’t have the category

[tidal gull]

just 74

[sinful cargo]

Maybe 74 goes unused?

Or at least

75 is what’s called at points where there’s a rank up

Actually Yknow what it might be

Cause im pretty sure that this is the song that plays at the great clock

So. Maybe that’s what the two IDs are for?

But then in normal gameplay presumably the rank up music would work normally

[tidal gull]

so cue 74 plays it with rank up category

[sinful cargo]

Is there something about Ryo that ignores categories?

[tidal gull]

cue 75 plays with just the regular bgm ones

[sinful cargo]

So cue 74 is meant to dim at rank up?

[tidal gull]

yep (ig, haven't played the game so...)

[sinful cargo]

Judgement

Ryo doesnt delete categories by default does it

[tidal gull]

the new audio has no categories to delete

[sinful cargo]

Ah

So categories need to be manually added

[tidal gull]

that data is in the acb, but new audio doesn't have that data anywhere. i have to manually set it before playing, just by default I add bgm ones since that's what most people use it for

yeh

[sinful cargo]

That’d explain it

Yeah cue 74 needs a rank up category

Hey, stupid question, but would it be against the rules of GB to release a sound pack that’s just “hey here’s the Tartarus block theme files to workaround the Ryo glitch”

[tidal gull]

i don't think so? i mean like 95% of mods are just sharing game assets so it'd be weird for that specifically to be an issue

[sinful cargo]

Also I haven’t updated Ryo to the movie update but I’m assuming that this issue isn’t addressed: any reason why BGME battle themes isn’t working with monad battles? It just plays default music instead

[tidal gull]

monad?

by default normal battles are just battles without any custom music set (bgm id in battle data is 0)

though i did notice quite a few battles are explicitly set to mass destruction for w/e reason

[uncut veldt]

it shouldn't be, I'd probably just call it like Tartarus Theme Fix for Ryo Audio Framework or something

just make sure you obsolete the mod once the issue is fixed proper

although I will say, I tried the exact same fix and people complained about it being too loud... but in my limited testing it was fine

so there's a possibility that their volume might be getting spiked at random?

[sinful cargo]

I haven’t been getting that issue at all

Something that has happened to me is, very rarely, when entering battles with ambush, the music becomes silent. It’s set to just be It’s going down now, and nothing else goes silent or anything; once the battle ends it goes back to normal. This has happened all of 2, maybe 3 times and only when I’ve been doing super crazy Tartarus sessions where I get a bajillion ambushes in a row

[sinful cargo]

Yup

[uncut veldt]

with Battle Themes or no? if it's with Battle Themes I'd probably say to delete the P3R_PC folder in battle themes and rebuild

although im guessing it's also a fair assumption that you've already done that or other troubleshooting :p

[sinful cargo]

With battle themes. I could rebuild. But again it’s only an issue for one battle

Like it’ll be silent that one fight, then victory music kicks in like normal, Tartarus works, and next battle is totally fine

So idk if that’d fix the issue

[uncut veldt]

yeah I'm just wondering if it's just played that song so few times that the error shows up rarely. I don't think it could hurt to try rebuilding, it doesn't take that much time anyways

[sinful cargo]

When it fixes itself after a single fight and it’s also so rare to begin with

Eh fair

[uncut veldt]

it's like, maybe a few more seconds at the next startup :p

[sinful cargo]

Side note brawler do you happen to have the pymusiclooper working?

Idk anyone who does but I thought you might fsr

[uncut veldt]

nah, I've always looped songs manually 😆

[sinful cargo]

I did that once to loop a mashup I made to put in a smash bros mod

[uncut veldt]

i might take a look later though I've got a python environment on my computer and I'm assuming it needs that

[sinful cargo]

It was hellish

[sinful cargo]

It does. I couldn’t get it working but maybe you’ll have better luck

[uncut veldt]

unfortunately for songs that don't loop cleanly, it's kinda useless bc you need to do some audio editing stuff in audacity to make it work out

[north frigate]

I think the latest update broke config files

Cuz I now get an error saying missinc cue or acb name

It goes away when I delete config.yaml

Did not have this issue before the update

[meager sentinel]

how many of these files are needed for every song?

I intend on replacing all of them

[tidal gull]

only 1 file

create a folder for those files, move them inside, and instead make a config.yaml

[tidal gull]

🫠

assuming they work at all right now

[north frigate]

idk if I'm doing something wrong with my files or what

[tidal gull]

no probably not, can you post your config

[north frigate]

literally just volume: 0.20

it was working before the update

[tidal gull]

i see the issue, update in a few mins

[north frigate]

this also happens with bgme btw

in case you didn't already know that

[tidal gull]

try out the new update: https://gamebanana.com/mods/495507

[north frigate]

can't test rn cuz I'm playing ffxiv with friends but I'll let you know if it's fixed

[tranquil violet]

based choice of game

[north frigate]

Ok it works now

Also what do I do to convert videos to usm files?

I wanna put the Yakuza 0 JP opening for personal use

[tidal gull]

https://amicitia.miraheze.org/wiki/USM

i've actually no clue how to make them tbh

[meager sentinel]

render the video in the AVI format and use Scaleform Video Encoder

[north frigate]

Got it

I found an alternative by using someone's upload on the Yakuza 0 Nexus mods page cuz Yakuza 0 uses usm files as well

But that's good to know for intros of other games if I wanna put em

[sinful cargo]

FYI it's been figured out how to replace specific voice lines..... kind of

the folder structure is figured out, but if lines arent replaced and others are, it wont work

Update! They work now!

[tranquil violet]

added looping https://gamebanana.com/tuts/17170

will likely update it with pymusicloopergui once i get it working :,)

[sinful cargo]

Niceeee

[hexed cipher]

there's a gui for pymusiclooper?

[sinful cargo]

In the works

[hexed cipher]

ahh

[placid shuttle]

Hi! I apologise if this is a bother, haha. I was wondering how to use Phos Music Manager to encrypt voice lines? I'm pretty sure I know how to use it in Ryo, but as for the actual encrypting... I can't figure out how to do so. I assumed Phos was only for music. Am I mistaken? Again, my sincerest apologies if this is a bother, I'm just new to the modding scene and would love to learn. :)

[tidal gull]

brawler let you know but yeah the issue sounds like it was missing encryption. the build in the guide has the update vgaudio and encoder settings needed for p3r

it was meant for music originally but it's essentially a gui for vgaudio; i'll probably be renaming it whenever i get around to updating it lol

[sinful cargo]

Use Monke2

There’s a download from Mudkip in the FeMC server

That’s what you should use to convert edited voice line WAVs to HCA

[tidal gull]

can't wait for Monke3, apparently it's gonna be VR

[sinful cargo]

cant tell if this is a joke or if VR stands for something other than Virtual Reality

in this context

[grand warren]

Has the Tartarus music disappearing been fixed yet?

[tranquil violet]

there's a workaround on gb

[sinful cargo]

https://gamebanana.com/sounds/72908

[grand warren]

Thank youuuuu

[uncut veldt]

think this is worth pinning until the bug is fixed

[uncut veldt]

idk if anyone has brought this up but with the judgement arcana rank ups, since those all take place within tartarus, it seems the tartarus music isnt stopped for those rankups

[sinful cargo]

Yeah, I experienced this, iirc Rena or someone else mentioned the Tartarus tracks may need a tag to designate it as potential social link music? I’m not sure what the tag is though or how to find it

[tidal gull]

@uncut veldt category_ids: [0, 13, 21] category 21 iirc

[sinful cargo]

Thank you

I’ll edit the files tomorrow (idk which adamah cue is which, one of them is used for the great clock)

[uncut veldt]

how do I use that

[tidal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-ratio-take-the-l-zutomayo-ztmy-gif-6430725429430442194

create a yaml file with the same file name as the audio file FILE_NAME.yaml, ex: link_26.yaml. then just edit in notepad and add the line.

may or may not be easier to move all the social link affected audio files to a folder, then create a single config.yaml in that folder to apply the setting to all the files in it

[glad mica]

Oh wait that was just notepad?

Lmao

[sinful cargo]

Again I’ll update this tomorrow

[uncut veldt]

ty haha. can you have them in a folder within the Ryo folder or something? i only have the tartarus songs rn but i feel like that could be good to know

[uncut veldt]

surprised you didnt package it as a general mod

[sinful cargo]

I mean at the end of the day it is just sound files, even if they’re simply the ones from the game, so I thought packaging as a general mod would be more complicated and potentially an incorrect categorization

The files themselves are no different than any other sound file, they just happen to be for practicality and nothing else

[uncut veldt]

typically even sound mods should be packaged as mods to make them easy to install, unless there's a specific reason not to

[sinful cargo]

Fwiw this assumes you have a Ryo install already

[uncut veldt]

it certainly wouldn't be incorrect if you're worried about that. it's already in the right category

[sinful cargo]

Like the sounds are specifically for if you have a sound mod already made/in-use

And need to fix Tartarus music going quiet

[glad mica]

I'm not in the know

how does this glitch happen, exactly?

[sinful cargo]

Plus iirc the zip file is literally a Ryo/P3R setup anyway

[sinful cargo]

The theory is it has to do with the game switching between audio loading methods

Given how battle music works differently than say, typical BGM cause of needing to check for advantage state and all

I think there’s a more detailed explanation as to why it might happen but

This glitch happens regardless of if it is simple Ryo replacement or using BGME battle themes

[glad mica]

hmmmmm so it happens basically for any bgm replacement involving battlle themes

[sinful cargo]

Yeah

And nothing else

[uncut veldt]

my thoughts on it are:

• anyone using ryo for battle music will benefit from this, whether they're using an existing music pack or their own custom pack
• having it as a separate dedicated mod isn't an issue, for end users it means they can easily install this mod to fix any issues with Ryo music packs
• your mod title and description explicitly and clearly states Ryo framework, and you can add a dependency if you're worried
• having R2 1-click install just makes life easier for everyone

[glad mica]

I haven't tested the one I did so dunno

thanks

just blasted it from mod menu lmfao

[sinful cargo]

Hm, that’s true, though at this point idk how I’d re categorize it

[uncut veldt]

it's up to you but I don't think it would be hard to make it a dedicated mod with 1-click support and I don't really see any major downsides to it

I would literally just update the mod to package it as a proper mod and change nothing else

there's no need to recategorize it

[sinful cargo]

Can sound mods even be done to do that?

Like on GameBanana

Cause again it’s in Sounds and not Mods

[uncut veldt]

yes; see battle music randomizer for example (but also most other sound mods)

[sinful cargo]

Oh you’re right lol

[uncut veldt]

fortunately, even if there's no current fix for the glitch that's permanent, the workaround makes it basically perfect anyways

[sinful cargo]

^

[uncut veldt]

ideally there would be a permanent fix though :p

[sinful cargo]

The only thing is that very rarely ambush music will go silent for a battle

[glad mica]

I'll install that then

[sinful cargo]

But then it literally comes back like normal

[glad mica]

I didn't replace ambush so it should be fine for me

[sinful cargo]

Idk if that effects it

Cause I didn’t either

[uncut veldt]

yeah. I was also hoping it would be packaged as a mod so I could just link to it on my mod page

[sinful cargo]

Yeah, I’d be down. Would you be willing to help me set this up tomorrow?

[uncut veldt]

(speaking of battle music randomizer, I've had many requests for new songs... 💀)

sure thing, it won't be hard at all though

[glad mica]

I had trouble using phos

[uncut veldt]

I could probably just link you the "publish your mod" guide and you'd be able to figure it out on your own haha

[sinful cargo]

What specifically? I feel like super confident in using it so

[glad mica]

uhhh I put in loop points manually using audacity and such

I'm confident the loop points are correct

[sinful cargo]

What do the loop points look like format wise

Like gimme an example

[glad mica]

but when I build and make it play in game, it loops too early

[uncut veldt]

it's set to start/end not start/length right?

[sinful cargo]

Cause idk how audacity shows them

[uncut veldt]

I fuck this one up all the time and I've done music a lot so figured it's worth an ask

[glad mica]

it's set to seconds but you can switch it to uh

what's it called

[uncut veldt]

samples?

[sinful cargo]

Sample points?

[glad mica]

yes

[sinful cargo]

Cause phos uses sample points

So

[glad mica]

yeah well

I have experience doing music mods but on P3P and such, but I use a different software for that