P4 Fog Restoration (fm. Foggy Inaba, Restored PS2 Fog)

[boreal bluff]

Yeah, after grinding for a while you can beat him

And then never have to grind again

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valverrrrrr nooo, I just realized that the static tx was a test ver 😭
i forgor, and honestly didn't thought you'll be updating FR so quickly....... 💀
a fix (looks totally the same but smaller on size etc)

[desert meteor]

stupid thought time

Is it possible to do this same sort of thing...for P3P?

[boreal bluff]

Wdym

[desert meteor]

P3P's dungeon environments look different from FES' so the stupid thought came into my head "Is it possible for P3P as well?"

[scenic dust]

I can't think of any reason why you couldn't if someone got p3p's debug menu working to a similar level of the p4g one. I kinda doubt anyone would have the drive to actually change the envs though. I don't actually know but I feel like the difference between fes and portable isn't as substantial as p4 to p4g. Plus interest in p3p in general isn't exactly that high

[desert meteor]

Yeah I know no one's really interested in P3P, just felt like throwing the idea out there when I thought of it lol

[finite spire]

No one complains about the tartarus bits in P3P that much

I think P4 mfs got conditioned to be jaded everytime graphics is talked about sometimes

[burnt valve]

I agree

(about the P3P not looking that different from P3F)

I thought about it and honestly even if P3P as a game is not very popular for modding, it doesn't sound like a super hard project compared to this

you've got

• Tartarus lobby
• Tartarus 1-6F + monad, which is likely 1 ENV per floor
• border floors (6)
• battle areas (7)
• full moon fields (unsure how many off the top of my head but not as many as fes)
• full moon battle areas (at least 13)

it also seems like they'd need minimal changes too

of course, that requires a functional P3P debug menu with env support

[burnt valve]

put off replying to this because I was out today but I will throw this in when I can

[burnt valve]

done but it did not have a huge effect on file size anyways

[low meadow]

imagine the mod implodes

also what does p4 tv static look like

[round rock]

ð

made the noise tx more resembling PS2 (works better w/ 30 fps, but still fuzzy, I guess there's no way to force the game filter it like on PS2)
(tbh I think P4G noise is just fine)

Jump

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#P4G Texture Enhancement Project (fm. P4 PS2 Texture Addon for P4FR)

[burnt valve]

the difference is more apparent if you load it into the game and look for yourself

[fleet tinsel]

it'd be great if the area the static uses up could be changed

i always turn it off bcs its really intrusive

but in the ps2 version it was only the corners, seems like for p4g they kept the same borders and just added more static instead of making more space

[burnt valve]

i think that's something handled in the game's code so probably not trivial

😔

I'll probably dedicate a major release to adding config options. I'm still trying to figure out how in depth I should make it though...

[sinful hatch]

still, sorry for sending wrong tx

[burnt valve]

no worries (I forgor to reply)

I have a working skybox right now, designed for samegawa floodplain, so I'm thinking of perhaps starting work on the other fields using that skybox. the skybox patch would still be desirable in the long run, but

• I could do the majority of the work now, with the BG needing to be adjusted later
• this version could be adapted to be compatible with vita or switch; slightly worse visually but still 95% of the mod

[sinful hatch]

You know, in my exp, re

lmao i dozed off and forgot what i was writing 💀

[burnt valve]

[desert meteor]

she forgor

[burnt valve]

wow, this is crazy

the config options currently do nothing, I just wanted to add them first

[sinful hatch]

i gotta finally start bu config

[burnt valve]

tbh I'm not sure you need a config for that one

I get the feeling less people will throw a fuss about that one

[sinful hatch]

I really want a config for optionals

[burnt valve]

fair haha

[sinful hatch]

like there's gonna be 3 vers of marie
one is utterly pointless but i just wanna 💀

[burnt valve]

it's just more work

[sinful hatch]

hope i'll be able to pull it off

[burnt valve]

in my case I did have people actually genuinely asking for toggles, which isn't surprising with the changes this mod makes

you are free to look at the P4FR source. I think you can probably copy a lot from it

[sinful hatch]

i wanted to have a toggle for yukiko castle
but ps2 env kinda grows on me

[burnt valve]

maybe that was my goal all along

lol

in the past pizza had wanted to make like a set of custom ENVs that would take the best parts of P4 and P4G

but I think it's clear at this point that it would be a shit ton of work

I also currently have toggles between P4, stock desaturated, and stock... but unless I can batch convert stock desaturated I might remove that option to save time

I think most people will be happy enough to have a toggle between P4 and P4G, and the 3 toggles only would be necessary for P4G exclusive stuff

[cerulean ember]

Ooo, that'd be fun.

I'll be doing the contrast for two and whatever is default for the comparison shots though. Makes my life a bit easier.

[burnt valve]

was not asking you for anything more, third toggle is basically there to appease people who don't want the new fields while fitting more with the look of the mod.

[cerulean ember]

Nah, I don't think you'd want me to do that anyways xD

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve lmao
https://github.com/BrawlerAce/p4g64.fogrestoration/issues/12

wtf fr
someone also stole the scanlines 🤔

[sinful hatch]

forgor that No TV Static exists, likely the case (or the dude uses ooold CEP version)

hope you won't mind that I replied to him in Russian to simplify things for him

[astral fiber]

i made a gui config for femc mod, if you wanna have something with images

[burnt valve]

that's fine, thank you for taking care of it

[burnt valve]

whoaaaaaaaa

how did you do that

[astral fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/type-computer-keyboard-cat-kitten-gif-12222055

it's a separate program, though you should be able to launch it from reloaded with some tweaks in the config code

[burnt valve]

that'd be super cool to have ngl lol, we already have comparison pictures anyways

[glossy shale]

Good idea in concept, not so much in practice 😔

[burnt valve]

it's a good idea I think, it would just take a lot of work lol

[hushed depot]

Is yukiko's castle just unchanged atm or is the mod not working at all for me

For now I'll do the tried and true strategy of disabling every single mod aside from the one I want

That did not work

This looks unmodded (sorry for phone camera pic I cannot screenshot)

Time to just play vanilla instead and deal with no manual inheritance in that version ig

[burnt valve]

that is absolutely working

looks like this normally

[finite spire]

Lmao they played OG recently

Dissociating rn

[hushed depot]

I really should start playing games with visual mods with my glasses on huh

[burnt valve]

lmaoooo

[hushed depot]

My glasses have the ability to absorb fingerprints and dust from across the house so I tend to not wear them while I'm playing games.

Like istg you could chop my hands off and in an hour there'd be fingerprints on my glasses somehow

[burnt valve]

there are comparison screenshots on the P4 fog restoration website

if that helps lol

[finite spire]

That sounds like a shitty pair of glasses

[burnt valve]

need to update that site with new pictures 💀

[hushed depot]

They were like $300

So I hope they aren't

[burnt valve]

but I have not a lot of free time and I'm trying to play Ace Attorney too 😔

[finite spire]

300 bucks
Has shitty plastic material that always leaves fingerprints

I bet it isn't the type to get darker on sunlight too

[hushed depot]

What

[finite spire]

Polaroid thingy

[hushed depot]

That's a thing

[finite spire]

Yeah

Mine's some 80 bucks and it has that

[hushed depot]

Bruh I'd just look away so I didn't get blinded

[finite spire]

It helps if you're the type to go outside all the time

[burnt valve]

they're good if your eyes are sensitive to light like mine are

[hushed depot]

I was gonna ask if you meant 80 dollars or 80 pesos but 80 PHP is $2 over here

[finite spire]

All I'm saying is, this feature makes glasses a tad more expensive

[burnt valve]

they do 😔

[finite spire]

Mine has it for 80 bucks

I'm winning

And apparently it looks like YS' glasses lmao

[burnt valve]

my insurance helps cover it but it's still pricey and all

[finite spire]

I pay for it myself haha

On the other hand I bike a lot so it's fine enough for me

[burnt valve]

the US is a "fun" country when it comes to insurance needs and such

[hushed depot]

My glasses were really expensive cause they without asking us added tons of shit like anti glare (which I already wanted anyway) and some other coatings

I would be going on walks if it wasn't raining and stormy all the time

Winter is winter

[finite spire]

I uh

Lost my glasses 3 weeks ago

Lmao

[hushed depot]

Whenever I lose my glasses they show back up in the most obvious spot

[sinful hatch]

wow cool

gosh I'm glad I don't need glasses since 11

[sinful hatch]

Np
I finally remember why I even was there: I wanted to get the config code...

[burnt valve]

😆

you'll notice the order is kinda weird; that's an unresolved bug with R2 configs if you have too many items in them

[stone star]

I know I’m late but if possible, how would it look say if a texture was over layered on the gameplay?

Wait nvm I’m dumb

[burnt valve]

yeah we had that discussion a bit ago, unfortunately not a texture. I did have an idea but I was hesitant to pursue it because idk what impact it would have and it would require me to create essentially custom assets

[burnt valve]

I've added config options to the mod with this update. you can now enable/disable fields as desired. this also includes Samegawa Floodplain but I will be removing that and the new skybox for release because the skybox change fucks all Inaba fields

please test this and let me know if anything breaks horribly

that release has slightly outdated descriptions but I'll update them for the next release

prev build was a little more broken than i realized so heres a fixed one. i havent noticed any major issues but i did limited testing

could still use some more in depth testing thankssss

[burnt valve]

I'm gonna assume by the lack of complaints that this version of the mod works splendidly with no issues whatsoever :D

I'll upload this tonight lol

[sinful hatch]

Sorry, I honestly didn't had a moment to test, I'm ill ):

[hushed quest]

Hope you get better man

[sinful hatch]

testing rn.....

[burnt valve]

it's okay! feel better

thank you for taking a look anyways

[sinful hatch]

I think P4 pink cheese ought to be boosted a lil, it's a bit more transparent in p4g, even though the tx is same (even more noticeable in dynamic)

[sinful hatch]

my fever somehow convinced me that this is of priority

typed cheese x3 when searching the tx lmao

boosted pink cheese

[burnt valve]

thanks, I'll look when I get home

[sinful hatch]

Samegawa's cutscene only or what?....... (p4/stock lol)
Am I missing something?,,,,,

[sinful hatch]

done testing, everything's in order sans Samegawa (?)

[burnt valve]

I only changed the one with rain

the skybox change universally affects almost all overworld fields though

honestly though that actually doesn't look too awful

tysm for testing everything though, appreciate it a lot :)

I will remove the samegawa toggle for the full release because i haven't tested the skyboxes enough to know everything will be ok/not if unedited

[sinful hatch]

ah riiight

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-i-forgot-i-forgor-gif-22449575

[sinful hatch]

also forgor to check Konishi Liquors
all's well there

[burnt valve]

just like me fr

thank you for testing so thoroughly, I will update when I get home

I'm surprised it all worked on the first try lol

[sinful hatch]

np

(a lil reminder about ps2 saves)

[burnt valve]

yea see i forgor lol

[sinful hatch]

thanks a lot

[burnt valve]

could probably use a tiny bit more opacity but still looks more fitting as is

I might just push out this update bc it looks fine to me lol

and done

[sinful hatch]

knew I should've chosen 200% over 180 😔

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve I guess you should add note that No TV static isn't a requirement
it seems there's a second person who misinterpreted the desc
https://gamebanana.com/posts/11853404

[burnt valve]

crying

I should update the description that's on me

but I just got to sit down for the first time since this morning so like I'm gonna need a bit lol

I might just see if I can add code later to detect no TV static and auto disable that texture

but that's a later me problem

[sinful hatch]

literally me yesterday

[sinful hatch]

there's three textures
well, 5 since the last update (no more glare effect)

[stone star]

Sorry I know this is old and I'm not 100% sure if you saw but I have managed to find a few of the source photos for Persona 4

[glossy torrent]

word?

[stone star]

Yes

word

This one

[stone star]

A lot of them come from these two website that's sadly no longer up
https://web.archive.org/web/20150405053011/http://www.mayang.com/textures/index.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20160326070442/http://www.engineeringradiuk.com/2015/12/texture.html

I've been doing quite a few restorations for qtrew and their project https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1264150305667289181

[flat dagger]

thats crazy that you found this lmao

[glossy torrent]

yeah holy shit lol, you really dig deep 🔥🔥

[stone star]

It’s called luck

You just gotta be lucky someone uploaded the original photos

This is one I’m really after

The floor in the school

Sorry off topic

[burnt valve]

it is honestly pretty impressive how good you are at finding source textures and sounds though

[stone star]

Thank you

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve found it, pin it, idk

[burnt valve]

thanks much

I wonder if I can just use the one from P4 or if the quality drop is too great

lmao

[sinful hatch]

dont forget about the minibar lighting diff

and obv ps2 tx can be upscaled

[burnt valve]

I'll probably just remake it, it can't be that hard right

[sinful hatch]

Oh, and ps2 tx is also obv 4:3.........

[burnt valve]

also true

[sinful hatch]

since you guys forgor (?) to post the new vid here
just got it in my recs
https://youtu.be/Oro6lJi9O8o

[burnt valve]

oh yeah I kinda forgot to post that huh

gonna try to post these weekly, the reason for the delay was mainly bc we all got busy lol

(loaf edits these, but sends them to me for feedback first)

[cursive cosmos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbsyZtRzetc

Fog restoration mod referenced

Also, based AustinSV for bringing up the artstyle change side of the argument

Instead of just relying on "its the engine change bro"

[burnt valve]

we worked together on that video actually lol

they pulled a lot from some of the stuff i wrote about the fog mod

[cursive cosmos]

👍

Glad he reached out

[hushed quest]

Really good channel

[cursive cosmos]

True!

[stone star]

Hey would it be possible restore the colour here?

[burnt valve]

I don't want to say anything with confidence until I get to that point

but just at a glance, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to at least get close

some of the textures would cause issues though I'd imagine

[stone star]

Gotcha

[ancient fable]

The textures in original persona 4 look weirdly hyperrealistic

[stone star]

You could make the same argument about the game itself lol

[quasi igloo]

im guessing golden is left?

[fleet tinsel]

golden is right actually

[quasi igloo]

got tricked by the widescreen lmao

[glossy shale]

always look for the ui stretching, never confuse the two again~ unless no ui is shown

[cerulean ember]

Oh hey, the Yukiko castle one is now out.

https://youtu.be/x8Ta0MibZCI?si=MGDVoQV7bBmLTqL5

[burnt valve]

I should probably like schedule more than just the video because I forgot I'd scheduled that...

[burnt valve]

# 1.3.0 - ??/??/2024
- Added P4 visuals to overworld map (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Samegawa Floodplain (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Samegawa Riverbank (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to the area outside the Dojima residence (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Shopping District, South (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Shopping District, North (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Junes, West Entrance (day, rain)

NOTE: The changes necessary for these fields may affect other fields in different weather! As a result, there is currently only a toggle for all of Inaba to enable/disable all changes. This will be changed in the future.

this isn't all the fields I want to do for this next update, but it's a decent chunk of them

I'll probably push the update once I finish most of the rainy day fields bc it's been a while since I pushed out a content update. but until then, if anyone wants to test this and make sure that there's nothing horribly wrong, that would be nice

[sinful hatch]

the map.....
obv/FR/stock (you also forgor to drop in PC32 or PS2 map tx ): here u go jic)

[burnt valve]

I'll fix it later. 32 map is probably preferable isn't it?

bc winter and all

either way I think I need to tune that one further, I'll do a second pass later

[sinful hatch]

, but I added the PS2 details to the winter map (gotta find where I saved it tho)

[burnt valve]

interesting

also, nice pfp, we love cars here 🙏

[sinful hatch]

thx, it's my bff's
he's quite the ear-nibbler

[burnt valve]

the map was really hard to adjust btw, I should probably say that. it took a lot of time to even get it to that point 😔

[burnt valve]

let him cook!!!

[sinful hatch]

also he always has that doomed expression

[burnt valve]

he's so real for that

he knows how it is

[sinful hatch]

he's a true possum at heart

[drifting hound]

was so confused for a sec

cat not car

[sinful hatch]

also, about some staggering ENV diffs (jic: Brawler haven't touched this one yet, the foliage missing for P4G is my doing)

truly kiwami, but P4 env does a great job hiding the weird field movement

@burnt valve speaking of cats
catboy dojima update when 😭 😭 😭

[sinful hatch]

also drop this in the FR upd

it's basically a squished 16:9 screenie, obv

[burnt valve]

uhhhhh I forgor

I'll try to get these changes in tonight

[burnt valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-cat-meme-car-gif-13125278196998866219

[sinful hatch]

also, pls don't rush pushing the upd, I wanted to look into the ??? field effects and finalize the winter map (found it!)

[burnt valve]

yeah dw it won't be rushed, I'm not done with the work I wanted to have done. I would expect it next week at the very earliest

[burnt valve]

i added all the changes you mentioned
(i will also do a second pass with the map later)

i chose p4g32 but if you get the p4 ps2 one working, i would prefer to use that

(this is also a prerelease)

[cursive cosmos]

Is it me, or is the 32bit texture a bit overexposed?

[burnt valve]

(i will also do a second pass with the map later)

[burnt valve]

big changelog for next patch

[cursive cosmos]

Sorry, I thought the texture was unrelated to the mod 🙏

[burnt valve]

the overexposed look is due to the ENV, not the texture

[sinful hatch]

still cooking, it's almost done

[sinful hatch]

pics 3&4 are stock
@burnt valve the dds goes into f001_002

[burnt valve]

thank you

I would recommend releasing the P4G32 one as a standalone mod or include it as a part of the texture mod if applicable

users without P4FR should still have the benefit of a not stupid looking map screen lol

id probably recommend adding code to account for P4FR. it makes a little more sense for that mod to check for P4FR than P4FR to check for that mod

(I can do it for you if you don't know what you're doing)

[sinful hatch]

the 32-bit tx will be in the next TFP update

[burnt valve]

ok cool

[sinful hatch]

gotta ping a certain someone to check on my iterations

[burnt valve]

yeah I'm mainly worried about if people have TFP below FR, bc it will override

so TFP should probably add a check for FR

[sinful hatch]

for cep users the tfp is always gonna be above

[burnt valve]

I'd like to account for non CEP users too

but that is fair

[sinful hatch]

missed that, true

[burnt valve]

I guess it's also just easier to say, hey, check mod load order

but I like avoiding that lol

[sinful hatch]

I'll reply more later, a bit busy rn, sorry

[burnt valve]

no worries

the details of it are something I might want to ask swine about but I'm actually traveling for like a week tomorrow soooo

not gonna be very available for modding

[sinful hatch]

gotcha, safe travels

[burnt valve]

ty o7

oh I do also need to update the license for this mod bc I've heard it's pretty restrictive rn....

but I don't know much about licensing and I'm kinda putting it off anyways lmao

[sinful hatch]

@blissful mauve please help the man

[drifting hound]

gb license embeds 😭

please

[burnt valve]

that sounds pretty nice

maybe I'll just go with that, I don't think there's anything I'm particularly opposed to in there

ty

would this allow people to port the mod to other platforms if they wanted to?

alright, that seems pretty acceptable to me

yayyy

thanks for the help, I'll probably go update the rest of my mods with this license later bc I've kinda been using the default 💀

yeah I'm not really a hard ass about it but also I have no idea what I'm doing hahaha

oh awesome that makes it real easy

what about mods that have code for say, config options?

where it's not the main draw but it's there

ok. bc all my mods with code are like that lol

awesome, all my mods have that license now 😎

i'm glad i can set a default license i was worried i'd have to go thru all my mods

i will go and update the relevant githubs later

yoooooo

we're so back

[sinful hatch]

where?!

[sinful hatch]

ty

[burnt valve]

yup! i would say oftentimes it's more that people just don't know any better with licenses (that's how it is for me)

it would be good to have license info somewhere on the server i think

[sinful hatch]

I'm dumb and actually went thru all my stuff a month (?) ago, missing some in the process, as I discovered just now

[burnt valve]

ooooof

I'd say

• throw something like that in #1062319573472383006
• announce it in announcements if the rest of the mod team is cool with it
• might be worth making a GB post about it just to spread the word as much as possible

yeah

its kinda weird to think about it bc a lot of it is like... we're modifying assets

at the very least, it would be great for people to be aware of the license options they have

nice 😎

thanks again for the help, I'm glad it just ended up being really easy

basically copy pasting the license you sent bc I was cool with that lol

well ty whenever you see this haha

[sinful hatch]

funny how the No TV Static+ is the reason I pinged Pixel here in the first place

nah, it's just you brought up the licensing and how you can help with that when we updated that mod

[sly wagon]

The licensing selector?

Yeah of course. Drove me nuts how much GB licensing sucks

[burnt valve]

I may or may not have been using the default licensing bc of that lol

[sly wagon]

That's the other reason I made it

The default licensing is terrible

[burnt valve]

it seems very restrictive when I read it

I updated all my mods to have less restrictive licensing bc as stated I was using the default haha

[sly wagon]

Lots of good mods die because no one can update them due to the restrictive licensing

[burnt valve]

basically recreated catboy dojima for 64 bit because I couldn't get in contact with the 32bit creator

tbh my edit looks better anyways

[sly wagon]

The decision makes sense, not having an option to select better licensing does not.

but also I think the style of the license embeds looks better and is clearer too

[burnt valve]

mhm I agree

the new embed is nicer to look at, feels more official lol

[sly wagon]

"you can go to this website to pick a CC license"

I remember the whole thing just started as a github repo of gb licenses, and then the feature creep happened

I wanted them to add the license embed select to the mod page.
It got good reception but tom shot it down.

said he felt it wasn't clear enough. When I told him I could easily change anything on there and to let me know what he felt needed to change, he never replied to me

[burnt valve]

GB is already an unclear mess

[sly wagon]

I made it a gb app instead. still better to just bookmark the page though

[burnt valve]

I really don't think a license selector which probably isn't that much of a mess anyways would be worse than it is rn

[sly wagon]

well all they'd need to implement is a preview and the selector. I wrote the directory walk and stuff, and they could host the licenses on their own server.

Cause all it does is reads everything in the repo and dynamically populates the drop down

[burnt valve]

the real best part about being a mod is being able to pin and unpin messages in my concept threads lol

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve pin this one instead. Both PS2 maps in one package, folder-structured. The green one received some tweaks to remedy the seams as best as the shoddy field mesh allows

also, the name enter BG toggles with the config just fine (jic)

[burnt valve]

thank you, this is more convenient lol

also glad to hear the velvet BG works

[sinful hatch]

about the velvet.... there is a 2nd VR field and p4FR doesn't cover it
Can't really check, but I think it may be used on Vita JP/KR for the VA interviews

I reckon it wouldn't harm to drop the ENV on that one, jic, like if someone will restore that stuff for PC in the future (+for the Vita port ofc)

[burnt valve]

I'm guessing it would be trivial to cover it. it's really down to figuring out what field it is

[sinful hatch]

oh, it is 008_015

(the playable VR is 008_003 for those interested)

shame I couldn't find any JP Vita saves online, would've tested if it's the VA field (no means to convert PC saves for JPN Vita)
not keen to speedrun any SL in Japanese 😅

[burnt valve]

you only need to have a mostly complete save file loaded in the JP version, the save doesn't even have to be Japanese afaik

@slim cradle you did something like this for your video, could you elaborate?

[sinful hatch]

Tried a couple of months ago, didn't work out
possibly my fault

[slim cradle]

Let me get the dog breakfast and I'll explain

[flat dagger]

arent those just events you can load

[slim cradle]

The camera would be frozen but you can work around that yeah, the event IDs being between 080_500 and 080_511

Converting saves between regions doesn't work; loading them says the save is corrupt. but what I did was change the game's region on Steam to Japanese, and boot into one of Loaf's NG+ saves so that it changes the name. Then convert that save to Vita. Now, loading it will crash the game but you don't need to load it. Having it present is enough to access TV listings from the title screen

[finite spire]

That's smart

[sinful hatch]

fr, my bad

[sinful hatch]

thanks a lot for explaining

[finite spire]

Wait actualky

Wouldn't it be funny if doing it like P3P save conversions would work

Basically load the savefile normally but don't press confirm yet

Replace

Then hit confirm

[slim cradle]

idk how I'd do that on Vita/PSTV, afaik you have to sit in the app for ftp access. But if you got past the corrupt save prompt it'd probably just crash

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve I checked the events, 008_015 is indeed the VA field

[glossy shale]

As a BGS modder, anyone can do whatever with my mods~ I actually use CC0 when I can.

I'm an outlier, though 😔

I don't make anything big, and I won't take down anything solely mine, so I don't gotta worry about that, idt.

[burnt valve]

now I'm getting people asking me why the PSV version of the mod was taken down 💀

starting to wonder if maybe I should've released it myself but I really do not care to support any non PC 64 mod

[low spoke]

Considering how people might’ve thought you had some involvement with the PSV version when you made the PC (64 bit) version. I can see why

[low spoke]

I just think you should’ve for archive reasons. Coming from someone that used to reupload lost mods for another site I frequent. Maybe it could lead to someone else properly updating it.

[burnt valve]

the PC files do exist for anyone who wants to convert the mod, the current license allows it

[burnt valve]

https://youtu.be/fbaqeyOyWcY oh wow

[low meadow]

man this video just randomly spawned on your yt

[burnt valve]

I figure I should probably start sharing these around but there hasn't really been a ton of progress with P4FR anyways

I think I was waiting on something from @sinful hatch ???? but I can't for the life of me remember what that was lol

I know I need to put in the new VR ENV and map...

[sinful hatch]

Sorry, I've been in the hospital for the last few days (discharge only on Monday). All modding stuff completely left my mind

I wanted to do smth with the white cheese effect density for the ??? field (Yu's dream), but to my surprise I had difficulties tracking down the tx, iirc I found it only for the battle field (it's a tmx, iirc it's in tex2\field\effect\048_xxx)

[burnt valve]

ooooo yikes I hope you're doing ok

would you like me to wait on you or nah? I have some fields to add still so

[sinful hatch]

I'm alright noww, ty

You've waited long enough, let's skip the cheese for now

[burnt valve]

I mean I did have a con last week so it's not like I've been really waiting on you hahaha

I'm guessing it'll be a week or two until I'm satisfied enough to put out a new update

[burnt valve]

new build just dropped

- (previous build changes)
- Added P4 visuals to Shopping District, North (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Shrine (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Junes, West Entrance (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Classroom Building (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Practice Building (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Class 2-2 (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Library (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Roof (day, rain)

some of these fields I'm a little iffy about... the texture work is a big factor but also it is just surprisingly hard to match up with some of P4's lighting

the shrine in particular I'm not very happy with but I spent like an hour on that alone

[burnt valve]

off the top of my head, I need to do the following for this update probably

• update overworld map rainy ENV
• second pass on yasogami roof especially the sky
• Junes outside food court
• other school areas I'm missing
• second pass on the shrine? idek
• floodplain walking
• school entrance

[sinful hatch]

kinda lost track of time at that moment and felt like a small eternity had passed idk

[burnt valve]

this weekend was also rough for me too lmao

apparently i uploaded that build yesterday (albeit at midnight) but idk I drove like 400 miles in the last two days and I've been so busy that I'm taking PTO tomorrow just to recover haha

[sinful hatch]

that's hard
I think it's been 10+ yrs since I last traveled that far/long

I actually just slept thru the weekend (and the nurse forgot to ever wake me up to eat yesterday 😭 )

[burnt valve]

damnnnnn

are you doing okay???

[sinful hatch]

I wonder myself
doc said I'm all good to go
but I'm real sluggish, guess it's just too much sleep

ty for asking

[burnt valve]

hopefully it's just that and you get through the rest of that

yeah it's been so busy for me lately. I've not had much free time so of course, modding has to be put aside

tomorrow I took PTO but I have so much cleaning to do because I have a lot of new furniture

if I'd been working on this mod last year it would have been done in like 3 months tops 💀

[finite spire]

F

[sinful hatch]

same hopes here
I actually slept that much just bc of the real gloomy rainy days and nobody bothering me (and the doc said I need rest fr)
Cleaning 😭 Feel u, I need to clean and sort thru the stuff on the apt balcony, congrats on the new stuff though

If it weren't for my health this year, I would have also dealt with my mods much faster, early August methinks

[finite spire]

It was raining really bad last week

And it'll happen again this week

Two storms coming in

[sinful hatch]

I wanna thunderstorm
can't get enough of it
only 3 this year

[finite spire]

3 this year? Lucky

[sinful hatch]

nah, actually I think there were 5

[burnt valve]

haha, for me the weather has been really wonderful lately

yeah idk like I work a full time now and so finding time to make mods is hard when there's a lot of things I want to do with my free time

I mainly just focus on this mod now bc it's my mod

lol

[finite spire]

Our.

(my job's calling P4 mid)

[sinful hatch]

full time truly sucks

[burnt valve]

it's okay to be wrong sometimes <3

[burnt valve]

it does but that's just how life is I guess 😔

[flat dagger]

is the gh build the latest or should I use pinned

want to test something

[burnt valve]

pinned

[flat dagger]

epic

[burnt valve]

I never did figure out how to do like GitHub actions for mod builds so I manually uploaded that build lol

[burnt valve]

@flat dagger this is the newest one. I just realized it wasn't pinned 💀

[scenic dust]

I can help you with that later if you want. Ping me in a few days (maybe the weekend) when I forget I said this lol

[flat dagger]

oh i just did some massive fucking trolling wow

i didnt position right (didnt look at reference photo 💀)

oh it didnt crash calling it too

ok well i just figured out custom field imports

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-gif-2829327295667490896

i think this goes beyond scope of brawlers mod though gomen 💀 i will post elsewhere

[stark sundial]

This is the mod of all time

[floral rover]

Happening??

[low meadow]

how do you just “accidentally” figure that out 😭

[cursive cosmos]

Man, with this restoration mod rennaissance, I might as well postpone my P4G playthrough for at least another year or two lol

Not that I'm complaining. All of these new mods and developments are awesome

[sinful hatch]

epic
This means now you'll be able to restore clouds for the Inaba map (f001_001)?

[burnt valve]

damn congrats LMAO

can I have that field though (when/if it's done),,,,

id love to put it in the mod tbh

[burnt valve]

alright
there's a few things I think I need some help with 😭

[desert meteor]

That's crazy bro LMAO

[flat dagger]

this is pissing me off now but i cant find field object file for the 2d plane of water there

its like that in vanilla too atlus why

[tacit viper]

you dont get water cause water is gross

[sinful hatch]

isn't it m017_017 (f017_001_rmd.arc)

[burnt valve]

every time I see your PFP it's a jumpscare bc it's like WHOA EMA SKYE

[hearty fossil]

wojak pointing

[flat dagger]

i dummied it out and it was still there

so 💀

[glacial island]

the goat

[flat dagger]

yes

I did not think you'd want because it goes beyond fog restoration, but I can do a pr with it when im done if you want

[sinful hatch]

feel you, can't find this shit
dummied just every field model related to this set and still can't find it

[flat dagger]

thats env isnt it?

like, a particle

unless im mis-remembering

[tacit viper]

...

[burnt valve]

I would yeah. fog restoration is just the name I chose but really it's about restoring P4 PS2 visuals and I'd say this falls under that category

[burnt valve]

TRUE

[sinful hatch]

i don't follow, you mean .ENV can include a tx? 🤔
I found a tx for the related battle fld (tmx, curiously, tex2\field\effect\048_002), it looks the same as the one from the prev capture
like, for both captures I actually dummied every dds and tmx (sans npc and the floor obv), no luck

[glacial island]

i assume he meant env can spawn atmospheric epls

[sinful hatch]

if so, tf they never put those few txs from the epls into tex2 😭

[glacial island]

maybe because it's in init free

field/v_room_filter.tmx

[sinful hatch]

i actually checked init_free, but only tmx stuff
thx!

[glacial island]

wait v_room, im stupid lol

there is system/effect/effpack.bin in it as well however

[sinful hatch]

yep, and it looks diff iirc

[sinful hatch]

those I did check, no luck

[glacial island]

understandable

[sinful hatch]

also no txs that look like this one

[sinful hatch]

no, i was wrong 💀

[flat dagger]

the camera angle is way smaller

so I kind of have to make some changes

@burnt valve could i get some input here

[burnt valve]

what's up?

uhhh I don't have a pic of the PS2 version for reference lmao

[sinful hatch]

also type 3 cams (like Samegawa) can't be moved 😭 , only fov can be changed

[flat dagger]

ive been using this as reference 💀

[sinful hatch]

55 fov 💀

[flat dagger]

mha sky

[burnt valve]

ooooo I see, did you pretty much just place them lower than in ps2?

also looks like they were placed a bit to the left

I have to like scroll up and down to compare cuz I'm on my phone lol

[sinful hatch]

checked again bc I discovered that the dummy's file name was incorrect
still not it 😭

[burnt valve]

I really need to do a pass of that field adding more fog...

the power lines look great but the lack of fog makes everything else look really funny

[flat dagger]

well if you think it looks fine ill just pr it then

[burnt valve]

wait does p4g just add a hill in the background lol

would it be possible to move the power lines slightly to the right?

holy shit

persona 4 kiwami

I'd say the only thing is that the contrast is so high in golden lol but idk how that looks with contrast 2

speaking of warmer colors the school on rainy days has warm lighting as opposed to p4g where it's all kinda blue

it took me a second to get adjusted to it but I really do like P4 keeping the school looking warm and cozy

[flat dagger]

yeah

[burnt valve]

well I've added config toggles anyways so if people don't like the fields they can use the default P4G ones 😎

in the future I'll probably add desaturated P4G fields too so they won't stand out as much

(hollow forest already uses this implementation right now)

that looks nice

[sinful hatch]

also, other than the sign this field lacks the road markings by some reason

[burnt valve]

that's actually because with the recent expansion of Junes, Inaba has been running into serious power problems </3

[glossy torrent]

it kinda makes sense in the steam vs ps2 comparison pic that mudkip sent cuz they're using daylight to see in the house

at least that's what it looks like to me lmaooo

[burnt valve]

P4G removes this detail, sanitizing the reality of Junes' corporate influence to make it more appealing to modern audiences. real ones will never forget the way Junes is gutting the soul of Inaba though

[burnt valve]

why do you think they locked episode aigis behind a $35 expansion pass?

holy shit

[burnt valve]

hang on I gotta actually compare them lol

I think I like the look of this new one more personally

[flat dagger]

ill pr that then

[burnt valve]

tysm

what field is that btw?

I could get it myself later too I just figured I'd ask rn

she's her

[flat dagger]

its funnier because its naoto boneset

being scaled up

[burnt valve]

there's kind of a funny trend with the persona games where all the guys are taller than the girls anyways, it's nice to see that broken lol

like mitsuru in P3, she seems like she should be taller but she's shorter than you lol

[sinful hatch]

f017_001

[burnt valve]

ty ty

[sinful hatch]

idk i just remembered this suddenly 💀
actually, the P4G cmr is the same angle and all, like exactly, but it was moved to the right a bit to fix the thing you were referring to

[glossy torrent]

ahhh yeah that's probably why it looked fine on golden

[flat dagger]

https://github.com/BrawlerAce/p4g64.fogrestoration/pull/13

@burnt valve

[burnt valve]

yeah

(ty)

nice config name

[flat dagger]

there was

[burnt valve]

Persona Twitter is simultaneously better and worse than you think it is lol

[flat dagger]

everytime people say "p4g is mid actually, heres p4" its just an image of the powerlines LOL

even threads start with it

[burnt valve]

gonna post it on twitter when I'm done with the field and caption it with some shit like P4G if it had soul lol

[flat dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gun-shoot-bang-bang-crying-scared-gif-15272562

oh i thought itd cut off before the shot thats less funny 💀

[burnt valve]

pov: you are being sent to the velvet room

[sinful hatch]

atlus has it in for the powerlines

[flat dagger]

anyway is there any other field stuff from p4

[burnt valve]

woke atlus HATES power lines

[sinful hatch]

@flat dagger

[burnt valve]

I'd have to get back to you on other things later. I kinda assumed field imports wouldn't be possible anyways so I didn't document anything lmao

[sinful hatch]

small things but still

[flat dagger]

ok is that one really noticeable enough 💀

also in that fov i still see powerlines there

oh this is floating in og p4 lmao

[burnt valve]

moment

[sinful hatch]

Depenns from the weather +mind the map preview
like you go straight to that point from the map and there's no road marking
this makes one qtrew really disappointed 😭

[stone star]

Wait does this mean we can import the trees from OG Persona 4?

[sinful hatch]

also forgot

[sinful hatch]

that school gate thing you noticed, do you have a capture?

[burnt valve]

that's a good question actually

[sinful hatch]

im just off to sleep and can't find it

[stone star]

You mean a screenshot?

[sinful hatch]

yup

[stone star]

I think so

[sinful hatch]

ping mudkip with it pls

[stone star]

Okay

[round rock]

@flat dagger

GabiShy

Also I just noticed they removed the little thing near the gate (I don't know that it's called)

Jump

[Go to message!](#1264150305667289181 message)

#P4G Texture Enhancement Project (fm. P4 PS2 Texture Addon for P4FR)

[sinful hatch]

@flat dagger
Dunno tf they removed that lil mesh for P4G, the grooves of the gate on the grnd
the texture for it on the same map as the actual gate

[stone star]

Lol

Sorry for the double ping

@sinful hatch by the way how is your project going?

[flat dagger]

am i stupid i dont see the difference

[stone star]

Sorry

[flat dagger]

o

[stone star]

Was removed from Goldens model

[burnt valve]

huh

interesting

[sinful hatch]

I haven't worked on it at all, been in the hospital the last week
glad you took up the p4 fonts thing, saves me time, not working on that one anymore, good luck

[flat dagger]

looks like its just a 2d plane overlaid on top of normal model

[stone star]

Oh shit is everything okay?

[sinful hatch]

Depends, really
short-term - yes
long-term - no
ty for asking

[sinful hatch]

Wait now i remember lol: theyre there in Golden, can be seen in the winter, foliage bg hides em for the other seasons
but they are real small

[sinful hatch]

wait no VA vr? (f008_015 jic)

[burnt valve]

I think I forgot to put that in the changelog but it was done

[sinful hatch]

O good
pretty much can be left as silent change

[flat dagger]

well ill try to compile those two changes you guys wanted into a list but if you guys remember more lmk

[sinful hatch]

Tysm, will do

@stone star fyi just in case

[stone star]

will do!

[burnt valve]

this is the full changelog for the record

# 1.3.0 - ??/??/2024
- Added P4 visuals to overworld map (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Samegawa Floodplain (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Samegawa Riverbank (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to the area outside the Dojima residence (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Shopping District, South (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Shopping District, North (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Shrine (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Junes, West Entrance (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Classroom Building (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Practice Building (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Class 2-2 (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Library (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals to Yasogami High Roof (day, rain)
- Added P4 visuals for the Velvet Room field used in the cut JP interviews
- Changed name selection background to match the Velvet Room visuals
- Added an automatic compatibility patch with No TV Static 64 to disable static if that mod is above P4 Fog Restoration in the mod order
- Replaced the overworld map texture with its P4 counterpart
- Fixed an event in the TV World bedroom not having proper P4 fog

NOTE: The changes necessary for these fields affect other fields in different weather, and some field skyboxes may look worse! As a result, there is currently only a toggle for all of Inaba to enable/disable all changes. This will be changed in the future.

soon will be updated with the power lines too ofc

smh

[flat dagger]

oh 💀

[burnt valve]

tbh I'm unsure how to handle this in config bc I wasn't expecting anything like this in the first place lol. I just kinda made it a separate category and left it at that

or rather left it as a separate category

[astral fiber]

when will p5 visuals be added?

[flat dagger]

when dniwe sends me a p5 map

[burnt valve]

this is how it looks with the p4 env, no edits

it should be much brighter in reality but we'll get there

[flat dagger]

the giant fucking hole 💀

i really need to fix this atlus please

[burnt valve]

lmaooo

[frail radish]

it's funny to me how at no point from ps2 (since in that comparision image you sent earlier the gap seems to have been there as well) all the way to golden64 did they ever think "hmm lets scale up this water plane so it clips through the ground looking like a actual puddle and not a Floating Square" lmfao 😭

somehow they managed to add some bushes closer to the camera right there and still didn't notice how awkward it looked lol

[burnt valve]

which looks better (background fog)

using this as reference for p4

[frail radish]

2nd one looks nicer imo and better resembles the ps2 one anyways

[desert meteor]

2nd

[burnt valve]

skybox texture stuff is a bit unfortunate but

hopefully it can be figured out

i can also hide the hills with enough fog lol but idk if i should go thru with this one

[desert meteor]

With the skybox as it is rn this one doesn't look great to me at least

[flat dagger]

whats the issue with skybox?

[burnt valve]

got it

[low meadow]

i’m unclear - what’s the issue with the water here?

[burnt valve]

p4 has one skybox for each field but the same for each weather. p4g does the opposite lmao

[flat dagger]

look in between water and concrete

big hole

so you see under water

[frail radish]

Yeah i don't really think that'd be the way to go here lol, esp given that to me this looks like a case of them replacing 2D background details with 3D ones (in this case you can see what kinda looks like 2D hills in the PS2 background which seemingly aren't there in the golden field, but the 3D mountains on the golden field are basically in the same spot where the 2D ones were)

[low meadow]

that ain’t a hole dawg, that’s the dirt sloping down isn’t it

[flat dagger]

i mean, i could just add the skybox if I need to?

[flat dagger]

no!

its in p4, you can see the plane clearly

[burnt valve]

well swine was talking about making a code patch to add individual skyboxes for each field

i think hes been busy with other stuff tho

there is a skybox texture present to be clear, it's just the generic one i've been using for samegawa floodplain and other fields (since p4g stock shares the skyboxes)

[low meadow]

[burnt valve]

the big issue iirc was that it's easy to replace skyboxes but it isnt easy to make a code mod that uses a stock skybox rather than erroring/hanging if a skybox isn't present for a specific field

there's a lot of fields

i don't really 😔

take that tom gamebanana

I also dont have the patch in the first place lol

maybe i just leave it like this for now

oh wait i forgot to change the fog color

oops

[stone star]

The black road is thrown me off lol

[flat dagger]

couldn't you just make a script to make dummy skyboxes for every field lmao

[burnt valve]

i suppose i could lol but it would greatly increase file size and if i forget a field, gg

[sinful hatch]

my best ever "woke up randomly at 3 am" moment

[burnt valve]

im done modding persona for today im so sleepy 💀

[sinful hatch]

Get some rest

[burnt valve]

i have a lot of cleaning to do bc half my living room is unusable rn lol

[low meadow]

this literally looks so good :3

[sinful hatch]

@flat dagger there is also a winter ver of that fld...

[flat dagger]

what

when the hell is that used

[sinful hatch]

sl events

[flat dagger]

is the angle with towers shown

[sinful hatch]

Naoki has a scene there, iirc it's seen

[burnt valve]

oh....

right...

it's his rank 9 I think?

[sinful hatch]

yes

gonna capture it now

[sinful hatch]

event 640_090

[low meadow]

damn that looks so much better

[sinful hatch]

yeah, fuck p4fr env

delete the mod Brawler

[flat dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-gif-2829327295667490896

[burnt valve]

how bad is it to do these field edits anyways

for you*

[flat dagger]

not bad

but annoying

stuff like this isnt too hard as long as it doesnt decide to randomly break

[burnt valve]

oh cool

well the random breaking isn't cool but

[flat dagger]

the worst part really is actually getting the models from p4

💀

[burnt valve]

well hey at least you already have this one lol

[flat dagger]

well

i kinda deleted the file

so im gonna have to datamine my own model

[sinful hatch]

@flat dagger also we all smhw missed the broken UV 🫠

[flat dagger]

Is that my field model?

[sinful hatch]

why yes 💀

[flat dagger]

Weird

[sinful hatch]

export moment?
looks like this in noe too

[sinful hatch]

@flat dagger oh well, you obv femulated the m017_017.AMD into f017_001.arc inst of f017_001_rmd.arc

happened to me too once or twice

[low meadow]

where’d the poles go

[sinful hatch]

it's stock for testing

[low meadow]

also wth where did the water and plants go 😭

[astral fiber]

taken by the ~fog~~ ✨

[sinful hatch]

i actually swapped em with this but it's positioned somewhere outta frame i guess lol

and is it just me or the glorified hole (no pun intended 😭 ) is in fact an optical illusion of sorts (exacerbated by the broken UV)? 🤔
like, it's hard to illustrate, you gotta have a look at the actual geometry

funny shit

[low meadow]

qtrew talking about glory holes was not on my p4fr bingo card

[sinful hatch]

just like the cheese stage moment and the gb page cream comment weren't for me 💀

[low meadow]

the… what?

gb what comment

[sinful hatch]

the most popular one on the p4fr page

[low meadow]

i’m on an ipad run while my laptop is being repaired so i can’t easily access the page

that sounds funny tho

[low meadow]

[sinful hatch]

feel you, gotta repair mine's kb

for now i just locked the "d" with AHK

[flat dagger]

I didn't fem anything

I included the arc

But the 017 wasn't touched

[sinful hatch]

oh, i assumed you might've done that for testing

when you mentioned dummies

[flat dagger]

I only included main field arc

[sinful hatch]

but fr, take a closer look at the f017_001 geom

[next forum]

Golden is kinda like the Kiwami to original P4 already
(completely changing the cinematic style in ways that vary between looking better and looking worse, but overall just being "different" for the sake of being different)

out of all the changes though, removing the power lines really is the most mind boggling
imagine if they ported P3Fes and just removed the moon

[low meadow]

p3p:

[next forum]

LOL

[sinful hatch]

@flat dagger also did you intentionally changed f017_001v_far_grass_02 for f017_001v_far_grass? https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxtapose/latest/embed/index.html?uid=4b03ce62-6f48-11ef-9397-d93975fe8866

[flat dagger]

Idek what that is

[next forum]

idk, ask the art team?
the game has a lot of changes that feel arbitrary even aside from brightening everything up

[sinful hatch]

check th link pls 😭
self expl

[flat dagger]

I'm on phone I don't see it

[glacial island]

they made what they thought best represents their vision on limited hardware, that's it

[sinful hatch]

oh thx

[flat dagger]

The grass in back?

[sinful hatch]

yup

[flat dagger]

Didn't touch it

[sinful hatch]

smth broke again

[flat dagger]

Odd

[sinful hatch]

oh shit might be the case!

actually not the case
same day, stock asset

it was worthy to check tho, ty

[sinful hatch]

@flat dagger sorry if nagging, jic if you missed that bit
check fr in blender when it's convenient (checked in noe, it's dark ah there, I may be wrong)

[cursive cosmos]

Apples to oranges

Kiwami's changes in style are, more often than not, unintentional and only a result of (lazily) porting and importing content from Yakuza 1 into what's effectively the entire framework of Yakuza Zero

P4G may be in a different engine, but everything is pretty 1:1 all things considered, and as Brawler has shown, it's not like they couldn't have chosen to replicate the original look because it is perfectly possible in the engine

If anything, it took, in some ways, more effort because they had to change a lot of assets to help in the artstyle change process

Personally, I subscribe to the idea that they just wanted the game to look more bright and colorful to stand out on the Vita OLED screen

[burnt valve]

[burnt valve]

I thought this was mentioned earlier 😔

there was a lot to catch up on I hope I didn't miss anything major lol

[flat dagger]

doesnt seem to be uvs, just broky texture

like its using some random ass one

regardless next time this happens this loads textures externally, you guys can fix

gabi wanted to use her upscales on them too so i think she'll be doing that

[sinful hatch]

oh, there was also a lot to catch up on at that moment, guess I missed it smhw 😔

[burnt valve]

@stone star can you confirm this haha

[stone star]

What I’m confused

What about my upscales?

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve I give up on finding the cheese effect from Yu's dream, you can stop waiting 😔

[burnt valve]

something about you handling the broken texture in that area I think...? I'm unsure max please confirm haha

[burnt valve]

oof rip, what effect were you talking about anyways

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve that lil shit
believe me, tried a lot of stuff to track it down (it's partially descr in a few later msgs)
prolly made a huge lil mistake somewhere, but for now I'm pretty fed up with the thing 😭 (i'll likely will go on a rampage to find it tomorrow although i'm totally opposed to the idea now)

[burnt valve]

ahh

not even print file access showed anything?

that's surprising

[sinful hatch]

me braindead
it was d i s a b l e d (I def enabled it a month ago or so)
o d d
i thought i checked with the FA prior to the hospital thing, but guess I checked smth else instead
o d d
checked the proper FA log and there's nothing new, but I'll recheck tomorrow bc me braindead

ty, sensei 🙏

[burnt valve]

lmaooooooo

alright sounds good

[sinful hatch]

huge lil mistake indeed

[burnt valve]

there's not a guarantee that it will pop up but there's a decent chance

[sinful hatch]

true, but still

[burnt valve]

that effect looks similar to one of the filters in the debug menu too

[sinful hatch]

check that plz when convenient

[burnt valve]

sure

[stone star]

I believe I asked them if they would like to use my textures?

[flat dagger]

Yeah

I mentioned in dms you could do textures externally and just reiterated that here too

[burnt valve]

hmm what's the texture called? could I just pull the texture from the original map for now?

just so it's not broken lol

[burnt valve]

its so washed out 💀

idk why they're so bright and why i can't adjust them lol

[desert meteor]

p3r reference???

[burnt valve]

holy moly

actually wait

this is rainy

im dumb

[quasi igloo]

were you editing the wrong file?

[burnt valve]

yes

[quasi igloo]

lol

[flat dagger]

well thats the thing im not sure lmao, i should be able to fix regardless though

probably wont touch it or the snow model until this weekend though

too much p3r and uni stuff to do

[burnt valve]

yeah dw haha you've seen how slow my development is

i miss university bc i had more free time lol

i think this looks a little better

cant do anything about the lack of clouds, though...

it looks like the clouds are just a flat texture though

kinda like the cheese fog in the tv world entrance

[finite spire]

Imagine how it smells

[burnt valve]

does this look like the original p4? 🤔 i think this isnt too far off

[astral fiber]

nah, too blue for p4

[frail radish]

Bit too dark I think idkkkkk

[burnt valve]

true...

does this look better?

i worry that theres a little too much red (p5 reference)

[flat dagger]

opened this in dark room with phone brightness up

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[burnt valve]

oops

[frail radish]

Aw yisssss it's breathtaking...

Now all we need is a mega bloom 200% vignette reshade filter and p4g will finally have good graphics 🔥 /j

[burnt valve]

i dont understand, p4fr already fixes the graphics?

[burnt valve]

is there any point where you're out in the yasogami PE field during a rainy day?

[burnt valve]

other than that, I am almost done with the next P4FR update. the last thing is the missing texture as seen here

really big changelog incoming lol

these fields actually haven't been tooooo hard to do. I think it's just tedious more than anything

well, none of this mod is hard at this point, the hard work was already done by swine in getting debug menu working lol

[low meadow]

[burnt valve]

preview build if anyone wants to update early

i need someone more talented than me to help make a nice set of thumbnails for this mod lol

[low meadow]

oh @cerulean ember i believe this sounds like a job for you :3

[burnt valve]

the game was never about fog actually

izanami's goal was to spread overwhelming bloom to blind the masses

[cerulean ember]

[cerulean ember]

The timing and the fact I have no assignments atm must be a calling.

[boreal bluff]

I remember playing batim dark revival and the bloom was at like 300% there, genuinely looked terrible

[next forum]

its a bit of a pain in the ass to figure out the right weather setting when loading a field, but the P4 JP debug menu might help with getting to any obscure PS2 fields y'all need

functions the same way as the call field option in the P4G mod menu

with major and minor

and no need to know japanese to use the debug menu, cuz those options are in basic english

[burnt valve]

I've been using mod menu with P4 PS2 anyways

[next forum]

honestly forgot that was a thing

that's probably easier lmao

[burnt valve]

yeah haha

also because I have a bunch of hard saves for P4 PS2

so I can use those in combination with mod meu

[low spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[cerulean ember]

I need to continue the saves for p4.

[burnt valve]

I understand why this happens now btw, it's if you replace an env with the game still open and reload it

nbd it's just funny

[glossy shale]

I don't think so. There's no soccer on rainy days and I can't think of any other time we're out there that isn't for class, and it's always either clear or cloudy when class is out there.

[burnt valve]

okay

it's odd because there is a rainy field env for it

and typically if a field doesn't ever have a certain type of weather, they just omit it

[glossy shale]

Might've been something cut, or I simply forgot.

[flat dagger]

simply pretend it doesnt exists until someone mentions it

[burnt valve]

true!

I mean next update will absolutely be missing fields

the only way to catch everything is through a full playtest

[severe reef]

I'm getting seams on the ground in Yukiko's Castle

[floral rover]

already mentioned in the faq

[severe reef]

oh

fuck

there we go

[floral rover]

https://github.com/BrawlerAce/p4g64.fogrestoration/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions#whats-with-the-weird-artifacts-in-some-dungeons-like-yukikos-castle

[severe reef]

darn

[burnt valve]

it's barely noticeable if you're playing at 1440p 200% scaling but it's not an issue with this mod per say it's just that this mod makes it more obvious

I had some pictures to show that it's in the base game but I can't find them rn so you'll just have to take my word for it

[severe reef]

I just did it myself and could see it

[burnt valve]

I wouldn't even begin to know how to tackle a problem like that tbh, I can think of one person who might but even then it seems like way too much effort to be worth it

[severe reef]

dumb idea lol

I know this wont happen but it would be nice if you made it so the vanilla option in the config an alternate version of vanilla without the motion blur

but that would double the file size and take dev time away

[floral rover]

you can't really disable motion blur because it's tied to the game's multi-pass lighting iirc. Special K gives you an option to disable it, but it breaks all the lighting and makes the game really dark.

[severe reef]

I know that yeah

[floral rover]

Oh im confused. If you know it's not possible, why are you suggesting it? Or am i misunderstanding you? lol

[burnt valve]

file size isn't an issue but dev time is

anyone who has been following along knows how slow development is and I can't do anything about it

if you want to do it, do it yourself. and I don't mean that in a mean way, it's just that I really can't spare the time but I've written up a detailed tutorial

I will also warn you that the blur effect is weirdly linked to the lighting of an area, and in some cases you can't get it to look quite right without the usage of the blur effect

it's really weird

if you just play at a higher framerate it deals with the motion blur to some extent anyways

[sinful hatch]

@burnt valve I completely forgot and remembered just now, sorry
rechecked stuff
still nothing 🫠

i think everyone should see this sparrow
thank you all for your attention

[sinful hatch]

you forgor to mention the wintr OW map

[burnt valve]

unfortunate

[burnt valve]

good call

i was asked not to include changelog files in the mod because it resizes the R2 update window, but I did like having the changelogs :(

also idk if anyone has noticed but I did change the author from just me to me + friends similar to AME, I hope that is fine lol

R2 menu is too short to really add a whole list of authors unfortunately

[flat dagger]

yeah i had to stop with femc

i made a changelog so big people couldnt update the mod

because the download button was hidden, and the exit button was too

💀

misinfo, dl is there, just only at top so you had to download everything and couldnt disable specific mods

[burnt valve]

that's awesome

ugh it's really unfortunate though

[tacit viper]

in the discord

[next forum]

that's too close together
in the discord

[burnt valve]

I considered it but I just decided to follow what I did with my previous big mods anyways (Brawler & friends)

[sinful hatch]

I catually missed that upd
fine by me, it's nice (:

[low meadow]

brawler and MORTAL ENEMIES GRRRRR >:(

[burnt valve]

you haven't contributed to the mod yet I can't do that

😔

[burnt valve]

heyyyy so about these two things..... do you have time haha or are you still busy

[flat dagger]

oh oops im not holding up update am I

[burnt valve]

what's the nicest way to say that you are

hahaha

I don't mind waiting a bit really like I don't want to be pushy, but figured I'd follow up

[flat dagger]

im free tonight ill work on it

[desert meteor]

"You're holding me up bitch"

[flat dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-benson-regular-show-regular-show-benson-angry-gif-3864384236832066965

[flat dagger]

i am very confused

both gmo viewer and noesis see the sidewalk as this

idek what texture its using

im very confused

what the hell are they doing with this field

why are some textures bc7 dds and some not

????????

im not entirely sure i can fix this sidewalk

like i cannot access the original data for it

gms conversion is not working, it wont load in noesis normally, gmo viewer also wont load it

3ds max is dying on it, so does my gms script for blender

💀

[flat dagger]

ok well @burnt valve this is grass fixed

maybe snow can wait if you dont mind.....

[burnt valve]

yeah, that's alright

so I'm confused is the sidewalk just kinda fucked rn or?

[flat dagger]

well

i literally dont know what it even is

like i cant grab the original mesh

the only thing i could do is like, place another mesh right over top of it with correct texture

but itd have to be uved correctly

[burnt valve]

that's really weird lol

[flat dagger]

im doing snow rn though actually so,

[burnt valve]

oh cool haha

[flat dagger]

i do not want to make custom snow covered towers though so

im just slapping normal ones in

[burnt valve]

that's fine

[flat dagger]

alright heres snow

grass should be fixed here too

[sinful hatch]

f017_001v_romen2

[flat dagger]

no the mesh lol

i know what texture it is

[sinful hatch]

sry just woke up

[flat dagger]

its why the only conclusion i came to would I'd have to basically slap my own mesh for sidewalk and uv it which I'm not sure I wanna do

[sinful hatch]

why not?

[flat dagger]

the uvs are clamplicated i dont wanna make custom model for that

but i cant extract the uvs properly either

[low meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-clam-grass-jump-gif-25956447

[sinful hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[flat dagger]

https://imgur.com/qAnzIyr

[low meadow]

MAX WHAT THR FUCK IS THIS

[sinful hatch]

me cooking

[severe reef]

https://youtube.com/shorts/wh5g27Vxl-I?si=wQvfXlOksoiVvow8

[burnt valve]

ai 💀

[burnt valve]

ty ty

[burnt valve]

i never really noticed how low res this grass was until now lol
but yeah wow power lines in the winter wow

[sinful hatch]

ah nice, Max fixed the green hill tx too

[quasi igloo]

why is that portion of the road white like it’s been selected by a cursor ahah

[sinful hatch]

stock for comparison

@flat dagger 😭

[flat dagger]

How

[sinful hatch]

also, the hill tx is at it again

[quasi igloo]

i dont know enough about 3d graphics to wager whats causing this

import/export errors?? uv troubles?

[sinful hatch]

also, it would be great to fix the cables not being connected to the towers (since PS2!), if it's not too much of a hassle
can be see on both angles, actually

[quasi igloo]

so that and the water on the rice field looking odd for model fixes

it’s so funny that they made the winter variant of the rice fields and made the texture white and icy looking but didn’t fix the plane floating like that

probably to alleviate z fighting or something ?

guess it was deemed not really worth fixing given the very short time you spend looking at those fields

[flat dagger]

They be 2d planes

[sinful hatch]

it's not floating, this is an optical illusion
but you'll have to see the geometry in the editor to really grasp it

[quasi igloo]

ohhhh!

it does look like an error to the layman though

[flat dagger]

It do be floating

[quasi igloo]

oh lol

[flat dagger]

You can see completely under it loading into map

[quasi igloo]

weird

[flat dagger]

You can see in video I record too

Recorded*

[quasi igloo]

yeah idk how you could fix the power line wires not connecting if they’re just a texture on a plane with transparency

[flat dagger]

Started to think vertex colors are dying which is why the weird overlaid textures die

[quasi igloo]

you’d have to make custom textures

[quasi igloo]

oh this could be a possibility, the ps2 did vertex colours weird right ?

[sinful hatch]

I may be stupid, but... Do we both mean the green line between the water and the missing sidewalk as "under", right?

[burnt valve]

this stupid field is causing so many problems LMAO

all this for a field you see maybe twice ever

[sinful hatch]

more of an issue of pioneering the whole thing

much respect to Max for doing all this

[burnt valve]

indeed indeed I just find it funny how there's always a new issue that pops up

[hushed quest]

Oh that's nice.

[burnt valve]

?

that's just stock lol

[desert meteor]

It's nice... 😊

[hushed quest]

It's been five years since I played P4G ngl

It looks as I'd expect it to look

But if that's stock after all I'd recommend some fog or something, that'd be cool.

[burnt valve]

I'll deal with winter areas later

I'm not sure how to handle winter areas. I could definitely add more fog but the amount they have already looks pretty nice. it also depends on how you interpret the fog in Inaba. should it be foggy in the winter after they've defeated ameno-sagiri?

it's either I just touch up lighting or I also mess with fog

[next forum]

honestly i think lighting only should be fine, at least in that map's winter version

it has a pleasant amount of fog without feeling oppressive
and it's not storming so no need to go overboard

though with the power lines, a nearer fog distance might be good just to fade them out a little more against that super bright background

[burnt valve]

yeah I might have to do that

I'll touch up golden exclusive fields later

[burnt valve]

finally dropped the update (added a few more fields and fixes before the update)

i know it's been a while i've just been busy </3

[low spoke]

Very nice

[burnt valve]

I was going to make a preview video then slacked off on it then kinda decided fuck it I should just drop this now