(P5R PC) Kasumi as Protagonist

[grizzled crystal]

you can copy the edited epl (excluding the header) back into it and it should work

this first line

[kindred comet]

nvm i think i got it

yea the gfd template didnt nuke itself upon reloading

ty :D

[grizzled crystal]

[kindred comet]

[kindred comet]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793

oh this might be a skill issue on my end

nvm it wasnt

its probably some random epl

i love p5 file structure

[spice grotto]

[ruby adder]

i think the data is scattered because cramming “Royal” data into the reserve spaces.

[kindred comet]

that may be true but its also likely because atlus wanted me specifically to suffer

finally found it

its in HOLDUP.PAC

i would assume pak emulator works on it but i cant seem to get it to work

anyways reminder to myself that i have to make an exp mask in version too

nvm i think i get it now

ok no i dont

[ashen sapphire]

what happened🥹

[kindred comet]

pak emulator is being evil

@north bronze could you halp? im trying to use pak emulator for HOLDUP.PAC but i literally cannot get it to work ingame - ive tried using the exact same folder structure with cases that match the original pac and it didnt work. i tried PAK\BATTLE\HOLDUP.PAC and the same thing as before, didnt work

idk what to even do next, i even have pak emulator set as a dependency

its weird bcs outright replacing the files inside the pac itself and then just including the entire pac with p5ressentials works fine

[plucky rapids]

is holdup.pac at the root of the cpk

[kindred comet]

its in BATTLE

and i already tried putting holdup.pac in PAK\BATTLE

still doesnt work

matched the caps too and it still wont work

atp im probably just gonna include the entire pac, i seriously dont know what im doing wrong if this is user error

oh my god

it was a cache issue

https://tenor.com/view/guy-limbs-restricted-kneeling-on-the-floor-screaming-sped-up-gif-14767206172411155766

[kindred comet]

girl whatever

im fixing that out of spite tmrw

@zealous fjord

• #1094412112576651314 message

put this in altmodels

[zealous fjord]

Thanks! I'll test them later today

[zealous fjord]

All good it seems, except for the effect you've pointed out just above

[ruby adder]

Before I knew it, Sumire was in the New Year's commemorative photo.
Even the two-shot looks different!

[spice grotto]

[ruby adder]

Only two original Jokers remain...

[sick breach]

Ain't it 3 right? The one from P2?

[ruby adder]

I only checked on MyPalace, so I can't be sure.

[candid oriole]

I’ve actually thought about tackling those pictures.

I’m assuming I’ll need a dump of the game and to find out where they are, but I was just looking at that right one yesterday.

[ruby adder]

During the All-out attack, when the finishing move animation switches to Futaba, Even in the Japanese version, English voice plays. Is this due to the Kasumi over Joker voice patch?
Or is it because something is set for Kasumi as the protagonist?

[kindred comet]

it's probably due to custom bonus tweaks

I'll look into it at some point too, I haven't unlocked futaba yet

[ruby adder]

Ah, so when ExtraJokerCombatVoice is enabled via CustomBonusTweek, it seems some unspecified voices are fetched from SOUND_EN?

Alright, I'll set up the Japanese voice and output the voice files in my mod.

[swift lintel]

Is it just me, or does the grappling hook work really well in the tower in Kamoshida's palace? When this mod was still in beta, the grappling hook was wonky in the intro casino scene. But playing through the first palace now, the grappling hook in the tutorial was just a little bit away from Kasumi's wrist (expected), but actually connected to the right spot (unexpected & awesome)

[urban anvil]

most of the grapple spots look normal enough with some exceptions where it looks good

[swift lintel]

Nice!

[kindred comet]

it should connect for the most part

if it's a grappling hook cinematic then it won't connect

[swift lintel]

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

[kindred comet]

the mask doesnt align due to height diff quriks so i'll maybe try and move the epl itself downwards at some point

[kindred comet]

so true

[spice grotto]

She’s about to eat it

[kindred comet]

i just ended up hiding the 2nd "light" effect since i couldnt get it to align properly

the mask in doesnt align properly either but its not as big of a deal

[spice grotto]

Ooo

[kindred comet]

ew

[spice grotto]

That’s a screenshot

[kindred comet]

this game feels awful at 30fps

[kindred comet]

full screenshot :)

[spice grotto]

That’s awesome

[kindred comet]

i made the mask disappear a bit earlier instead of lingering after the explosion fx

[spice grotto]

[steep scaffold]

Great work

Now Joker costume commission

[kindred comet]

Next update can be considered a polish patch of sorts

[thorn nimbus]

Gotta love seeing Sumire with her hair down in her Phantom Thief outfit for differences~

[craggy ice]

I think it would be cute if sumire had the long hair variant from the mod in her pt outfit

[thorn nimbus]

100% agreed, Sumire having her hair down would make a lot of difference in her PT outfit~

And hmm could also imagine White and Gold colors on her PT outfit 🤔

[craggy ice]

I'm pretty sure in third semester after the reveal in r&v her hair goes down

but I was referring to the long hair with the braid and ribbon

[thorn nimbus]

Ooh yeah

Sumire with the Long Hair with Braids and Ribbon would be pretty nice in her PT outfit

While Kasumi/Rose can keep the Ponytail

[zealous fjord]

Sumire has 152 bustups to edit

This would take a while

[thorn nimbus]

Yeaah I can see why

152 bustups pics take a loong time to edit.. x___x

Since it is a lot

[zealous fjord]

What's most difficult is the moving eyes/mouth. You have to first realign those on the main bustup (after editing it)

Then you "extract" them from the main bustup

[craggy ice]

just in her pt outfit???

[zealous fjord]

Nah, in total

[craggy ice]

ah yeah no I was just referring to the pt outfit

but yeah still sounds like a pain

[zealous fjord]

There're 12 PT bustups for Sumire

[thorn nimbus]

Oh wow, I could imagine you have to perfect em to align em correctly as you extract em to the main bustups as it can still take forever and difficult lol...

[craggy ice]

I'm surprised the person who did all the bustup edits (ponytail haru, long hair Ann, glasses makoto, bedhead becky) did all that

[thorn nimbus]

Fr tho lol

I wonder if that person can take on that challenge of editting Sumire's 152's Bustups rn

[craggy ice]

well sumire overhaul did lmao

[zealous fjord]

You can probably reuse some of the head/eye movements when making those bustups, so you can optimize the process of making them a bit

Still, I think it stops being fun after doing the first one, ahah

[thorn nimbus]

Yeaah I can see why there lol...

[kindred comet]

you shouldn't need to do all that, just layer them on with photoshop

making the bustup edit itself would be way harder

[kindred comet]

I've made some edits to the temple animation and evt

Big difference is that now she closes her eyes

For some reason not even vanilla does this

I don't have a save where the protagonist reaches enlightenment so I can't really test that but it should work

Additionally, I've added a config dropdown for choosing between the new Seiza pose or the old Lotus pose

[kindred sonnet]

You may be able to adjust how many vists you have made to the temple via cheat engine if I recall the table I have has the option

that should let you reach enlightment if you need to test it

[kindred comet]

probably but im also tired of testing

[kindred sonnet]

fair point

[plucky rapids]

id imagine it stores it in a count that gets incremented each time

in which case mod menu could prob handle it

idk which though, i dont feel like looking through bfs to check

[hollow canyon]

Thanks for making the new pose optional, great stuff

[kindred comet]

@warm jasper @unique beacon @mossy zealot @inner trellis Some new messages have been added/moved to BMD emulator, if you guys could translate this to your respective languages that would be great!

I should note, these are just the raw unbeautified msg files. You add new lines by inserting [n] wherever you want a new line. I currently don't have the time to put these in a better looking text document and then copy them over by hand

@pearl juniper @ruby adder JP and CHS have been kept up to date but new msgs have been added as of the latest update, if you could translate these that would be very appreciated! These are just responses for when you hang out with party members that visit Leblanc

[ruby adder]

Have any new changes been made to the events themselves that use these BMDs?

[kindred comet]

Not tmk, and you don't need to download the 7z

Those msgs were just never translated for other languages, only JP and CHS

[ruby adder]

Huh... E760_501,701,811?
This is the part where I edited the Flow in this JPOverHaul and removed the public bath, right?
If it's .BF, I can prepare it immediately (EVENT_DATA\SCRIPT\E700\E760_501,701,811).

[kindred comet]

Yes

[ruby adder]

In Kasumi as Protagonist, does that mean the relevant event is handled via BMD+EVT instead of BF?

[kindred comet]

It's handled via the BF

Some BF files contain embedded msgs which differ from BMDs

Although here I think Zylvos had to do a bf edit as well

[ruby adder]

For the JP Overhaul, I've created .flow, .msg, and .h files with the same processing as the Femulator_SummerV2 you just provided. If there are no changes to the message labels extracted from BF, is it sufficient to upload the .msg file?

[kindred comet]

.h files can be deleted, they don't contain useful data

[kindred comet]

I think so, although I would recommend just translating the msgs I sent since I can't really do extensive testing of this event

Any further dialogue changes would be best put in your JP overhaul mod

[ruby adder]

Got it. I'll send it right away.

[kindred comet]

Thank you

[ruby adder]

I have translated it. Please review it.

[kindred comet]

That looks good, thank you very much!

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord Here's the modified temple event, it just removes shoes and adds the eyes closed blend animation

[zealous fjord]

Thanks!

[unique beacon]

Aye, aye, sir!

[pearl juniper]

Okay!

[kindred comet]

omg i forgot the velvet room persona fusion has a mask model

https://tenor.com/view/noisey-sees-you-pizza-tower-the-noise-peppino-gif-10385903665275465185

ok well this one seems straightforward

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord put this in the altmodels (both variants) characters\joker\1 folder

should replace the joker mask when fusing in the v.room

[zealous fjord]

Alright, thanks!

[candid oriole]

Would anyone happen to have high quality versions of these two pictures available?

[kindred comet]

Yeah, gimme a sec

[mossy zealot]

only ones left are weapon and gun help bc theyre kinda making me lose my mind

[kindred comet]

😅😅😅

Yeah I'm not super sure what I can do about that one unfortunately

[mossy zealot]

no its okay ill struggle my way through it lol

but the rest are all done

[candid oriole]

That would be awesome, thanks!

[kindred comet]

I completely forgot, sorry 😓

Hold on

[candid oriole]

No worries. lol

[candid oriole]

Perfect, thank you!

[kindred comet]

Yw!

[spice grotto]

Oh?

[kindred comet]

Thank you!

[kindred comet]

New update is live, have fun

[ashen sapphire]

[spice grotto]

GOGOGO

[thorn nimbus]

🥳🥳

[deep stirrup]

Is their a changelog? I can’t play it at the moment

[kindred comet]

Yes, it should be on the gb page

[kindred comet]

The next update will include a music toggle for all costumes with music + an overhauled Kotone's outfit music script

[spice grotto]

Now that’s a mashup

A thing Royal needed, a select music option

[kindred comet]

why is the p3 music in cbt so low quality

[spice grotto]

Good question Unfortunately there’s no good answer

[kindred comet]

probably atlus

thats the answer

[spice grotto]

[thorn nimbus]

She looks cute in that Kotone's Costume, the ribbon bow on her hair is a nice touch~

One of my fave costumes for Kasumi/Rose ❤️

[spice grotto]

Aww sweet time to pull the trigger to wipe them all out

[sick breach]

I'm surprised that ain't a mod for that

[spice grotto]

If it is I haven’t seen it

[kindred comet]

What if I said I just released this update 2 minutes ago

[urban anvil]

teehee

[kindred comet]

Apparently I configured the CBT adx replacement music wrong, I'm going to reupload addons mod but not increment the version number so (hopefully) people won't be bugged by another update notification. If you want the game to use high quality versions of Master of Shadow and Unavoidable Battle overwrite the yamls in p5rpc.kasumiasprotag.addonsmod\Ryo\P5R\Kotone\CBT-HD with these ones attached

[astral chasm]

omg, downloading mods on GameBanana is getting harder and harder. The files are often unavailable 😤

[kindred comet]

download it from the mirror if gb isnt working, its below the mod downloads on gb

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dtbXAv5kY669otIq3iiLPuC_UBdve7BQ?usp=drive_link

[astral chasm]

oh no, yours downloaded fine, thnx!

I’m frequently having issues with some mods for P5R and P3P

[thorn nimbus]

Off-topic, but I see New York pfp I like lmfao

[astral chasm]

I love her sm lol

[reef musk]

The Kotone outfit goes so hard

[thorn nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/flavor-of-love-entrance-gif-8050083

Gotta stan her lol

[thorn nimbus]

I love how it fits Kausmi/Rose a lot too~

[reef musk]

I love Kotone a lot but icl I think Kasumi honestly wears it etter

[thorn nimbus]

So true, as Kasumi/Rose also wearing a Red Bow Ribbon on her hair makes it cuter too ❤️

[meager lichen]

Is it normal for like the handcuffs and clipboard and stuff in the intro to be completely misaligned from the character model?

[kindred comet]

It is and is mentioned in known issues

[meager lichen]

okay thanks, just wanted to make sure I didn't do something wrong

[kindred sonnet]

your going to notice a lot of that its normal due to model size between joker and kasumi

[small stream]

sorry Wisteria the update mention Added a config option toggle for Costume Music to all three mods which 3 mods are you referring to?

[kindred comet]

main mod, addon collection, long hair

[small stream]

okok

[solar comet]

Remind me of this fanart

[plucky rapids]

gorls

[thorn nimbus]

Ooh Kotone wearing Kasumi's Persona 5 School Uniform

while Kasumi wearing Kotone's S.E.E.S. uniform(plus Reload drip) I love to see it~

👀

[spice grotto]

Aww man I want Kasumi to have headphones now

[kindred comet]

trill art jumpscare

[kindred comet]

Hai everyone!! This is the new phantom thief portrait for L7M3's bustup pack, they were looking for thoughts and feedback before working in the animation and finalizing it as a whole so if you have any thoughts please share them

@oblique juniper tagging you since you provide some great insight on art/illustrations so if you would like to comment on anything please feel free to ^^

[craggy ice]

i like this one a lot!

i don't use l7m3's bustups because i thought they looked a little too different from p5's style but this is a lot closer!

[pale flower]

I'm gonna assume the OG concept art was the reference for this? The head tilt and face remind me heavily of it.

It looks elegant and conveys that she is thinking while still having an intensity to it. It may not be finalised yet, but it has more personality than Joker's thief bustup.

Only thing I noticed that was off is that her black collar is missing.

[urban anvil]

true

[astral chasm]

this is gorgeous

[manic cedar]

oh yeah i forgot

[manic cedar]

and yeah i did use it as inspiration

taking a look at what appears in the cutin while in-game made me feel like the tilt and angle just worked

without having that much simply not appear bc of some over the top nonsense I'd usually end up doing to try and make it "unique"

[astral chasm]

are you planning to add a strong light on the left side? To me, that's pretty much the only thing missing. The rest looks really well done! The pose and the look bring out a new side of Kasumi that fits perfectly

[astral chasm]

like that!

[manic cedar]

i am

you can check some of the others I've done before this one

so yeah, the last thing i need to do is lighting and shading

and the blinking animation

[astral chasm]

Nice! congrats on the art, it turned out really good

[manic cedar]

I've been working on the portrait again, and I stopped to think for a moment about how I'd go about doing the rim lighting

in the previous pieces I made, the rim lighting would sort of match the ambience it was put on, so the overworld would be a warmer golden hue, and in the interrogation it would be a colder blue

was thinking about putting this one with a red tint to match mementos, but at the same time, it would end up conflicting with her already red hair, so I'm kinda in a loss

[kindred comet]

I would say keep it neutral like jokers

Metaverse lighting tends to vary anyway

[manic cedar]

simple yet effective

i actually forgot about that lol

was too focused on making it "new"

i'll see what i can do

[manic cedar]

this is what i've got so far.

In a way, it's done, but I can make changes if needed. If there's nothing to note, I'll just need to do the blinking

with that out of the way, to bed I go.

[oblique juniper]

my feedback usually runs on the nitpicky side to make things look as accurate as possible so i would have to make sure that is okay for the artist before giving feedback 🥲 i dont want to upset anyone with criticism

[manic cedar]

go for it

the last thing i want is sugarcoating

if i wanna get better, no other way than to have others who know better to talk their heart out

dw, the last thing I'll do is take anything to heart and feel offended

on that note, I'll also point out criticism is not harrassment

so don't be afraid to hold back

[oblique juniper]

do you have a screenshot or something where the image is a bit higher quality?

[manic cedar]

i legit just turned off my pc

gimme a sec

[oblique juniper]

noo its ok then

[manic cedar]

also yeah, screenshots suck

that was mb

hope this is better

[oblique juniper]

yee

since im unfamiliar with the modding sides of p5 i have to ask, which exact sprite is this going over?

[manic cedar]

the phantom thieve one

ill grab it, just a sec

[oblique juniper]

okk

just give me a bit

[manic cedar]

now that im taking another look at it, i just noticed that maybe line thickness on her chin and hands could be a bit bolder

[oblique juniper]

what else are you planning to add pre anims?

rendering wise

[manic cedar]

pre anims I don't have anything else in mind

[oblique juniper]

okay

[manic cedar]

most of it will end up being cut off, so i'm not really sure if adding more details would be necessary

but hey, if you find anything else that could be added

feel free to point it out

[dusk sundial]

if it's not untoward, the thing that jumps to me first is that the scalp specular kinda flattens the shape, they should kinda warp inwards as they go back into the pony

i think her bustup has a better example of how you can achieve that tho

[oblique juniper]

i mean the major thing is that she isnt in shadow on the bottom half like joker is

and a lot of other smaller stuff

i have to cross reference with some artwork before i make actual comments though cuz i dont wanna misinfo

its been a bit since i looked at p5r artstyle in this much detail

[manic cedar]

oh yeah, that shadow I'll be adding later on

you mean the airbrush looking shadow, right?

[oblique juniper]

ya

[manic cedar]

yeah, i usually add that after finishing everything else

sorry for not pointing it out

completely slipped my mind

[oblique juniper]

issok

ok im gonna look at artwork now i should be replying with a paragraph in half an hour lol

[manic cedar]

oh yeah that makes sense

yeah I ended up making her head too much of a ball

[oblique juniper]

for workflow sake its better to ask for criticism in sketch phrases and not work on the art while waiting for criticism bc its really painful to constantly go back for the artist

you mightve asked for sketch criticism here tho and i mightve not been here for it so i cant say much if you had alr done that

[manic cedar]

im fine with redoing some stuff whenever needed, but yeah you are right

again, that was my bad

[oblique juniper]

it gets really tiring really fast

[manic cedar]

kinda new with all of this

[oblique juniper]

its ok

[manic cedar]

i bet, yeah

[oblique juniper]

its why im giving the definitely pro tips

[dusk sundial]

i also think the bow could use with a lighter grey tone just cos it's getting direct light/wont be affected by the gradient as much
when you look at jokers mask even there are two shades

[oblique juniper]

we have had to go back and forth a shitton in femc mod p3r so 😭

[dusk sundial]

[manic cedar]

I'll keep this in mind

[manic cedar]

and I definetly appreciate it

and i forgot her choker

again

[gritty orbit]

Very clean, I love it.

[oblique juniper]

first of all this isnt me saying “you should redraw the entire thing”, this is more so how i would approach it. youre free to pick and choose what to apply, but its also why i said to ask for feedback while sketching so you can go back and fix things

1. you shouldnt stick to concept art so much. its just concept art. proportions will be all wrong, it will chew on rules that were set later for the character

2. watch this video. https://youtu.be/mb8EMQi1jpI?si=rLrKotOwV3CKEqoI soejima tells the intention behind sumire’s character design, and points out how her bangs should be drawn. understanding the story of the process of designing the character if its accessible to you will make you draw a lot more intentionally.

3. i did some redraws and split it into two so its a lot more readable. from here on out i will be describing what they are

bangs: they completely defy sumire’s shape of bangs, and are shaded completely differently when theres already tons of reference on how to shade the hair in style in game. you shouldnt ignore the rules set across the sprites unless youre making an educated guess, if you want to copy the artstyle.

chin: face shape is completely different, once again theres a similar pose of her in game you can reference, and many other official art that i didnt include here. key is always to cross reference over and over and over again

hands: joker has a different pose where he has his hand, i dont understand the intention of her hand being visible in her “base” sprite

bow and pony: they are creating a tangent which makes it hard to read what going on in the back of her head. additionally, the top of sumire’s pony is rarely visible so account that and look at when it Is visible across official arts. i wouldve drawn the pony in a different direction because once again, there needs to be purpose behind things youre drawing and adding.

mask: you should just get the 3d model, and angle it the same way to see how the ends of the mask would look. i dont know how accurate models are to art in p5, so keep that in mind.

eyes: the eye shape is completely different to other sumire arts, study the shape and then apply it to the perspective. the tearduct is usually visible to some extent, so she looks a bit awkward without it

body: you already mentioned choker, so im leaving it out. i think you should add small highlights to the gold bits, since they would catch the rimlight. Double check how her body suit works via other full body art, that is your homework on cross referencing

basically, be intentional with how you do everything. if youre shading the insides of the mask, make sure thats done that way in other artworks. if youre adding or changing the flow of the hair, study how that is done in the other artworks. and concept art is, just concept art. sticking to it religiously will look odd in the end. and as i already mentioned, this isnt me telling you to redraw the entire thing, its me nitpicking at everything like i said i would

to point out some places where its clear you went off of memory and didnt really reference as much as you should: hairline, ear, ends of mask, fingertips/fingers in general

it is OK to reference concept art. its the best option for poses, because it lets you use poses you know the creators of the character thought for them. but on a technical level, they are drawn sloppily so you shouldnt copy art style things from there

[ruby adder]

@kindred comet
I checked the seiza pose in the update. The current posture for the full lotus position is a bit wrong, so should I make a pose?
However, if I make it into a proper pose, the bones may interfere with each other. I won't know until I make it.

[steep scaffold]

Is that like a new bustup?

Cus that pose looks Perfect for one IMO

[manic cedar]

it was one of the things I've been doing with my artwork in general. I tended to go off the way it usually looks by giving it my own flair, notice it's not how "it should be" and then redo it.

might be an issue with my own confidence, but ty for pointing it out either way and actually say that this is indeed something i should improve

and yeah, i focused way too much on getting the ferling of her concept art, even when I felt it was off

the idea of using a 3d model ks actually really good

I'd either just go with the reference or take a png of jt somewhere and try to adjust it, though it never really looked good

ty so much for the criticism, i really appreciate it

some of the things might actually be fixable with how it is right now, bc of how i layered things

might take a while, but I'll post whatever new version I'm able to make in here later on

once again, i really appreciate you taking your time to point everything out

[kindred comet]

You're free to do so if you like, there hopefully shouldn't be any issues with the bones

[manic cedar]

forgot to answer, and yeah it is. Im making an addon pack with hand-drawn animated portraits

with variants for the zylvos rose and violet one too

[manic cedar]

Quick update on what I've been up to. Added the choker, added some black shading to her collar and neck area, put some soft rim lighting on the golden button, adjusted the mask position to be more tri-dimensional, while also adding some layering to it's edge to give a sense of depth, adjusted the ribbon's size and position, and made her ponytail a bit more grounded to her to not be too extravagant as it was before

i'll probably do some work on her bangs, then move on to make her hair warp towards her ponytail, which totally slipped my mind while doing it (thanks to CatBoy for pointing it out, btw)

[kindred comet]

very nice ^^

[spice grotto]

Kinda looks like Byleth

[craggy ice]

this might just be me but it seems like her bangs are a bit too poofy? like in her sprites they lay against her forehead a bit more

[manic cedar]

i ended up making them too off and rounded, without taking actual physics into consideration

[craggy ice]

ah yeah that's it

[manic cedar]

it really ain't just you, which is unfornuate

again, slipped my mind

as frustrating as this is, it's also fun to fix my nonsense

ty for speaking out btw

ill prob drop something else in a few minutes/hours

[craggy ice]

np. other than that it looks really nice. you replicated the style really well

[manic cedar]

also, in regards to her bangs, I'm unsure on how to proceed

the inner areas of her hair, I've made it very wavy to give her some more flair, but I'm unsure if I should follow the straighter lines they tend to have

[kindred comet]

I tried looking into the rainy weather footsteps but couldn't get them to work, even after copying over the properties values from joker

They just seem to be really buggy

[kindred comet]

yeah im just gonna keep the file the same as it is in the latest release

i ended up somehow breaking the footsteps even more

[manic cedar]

in regards to this, I'll probably keep the bangs shape language near the tips to be somewhat the same, just so I can feel like it's not really copied from the other reference photos I was using (also bc I really enjoy the looks it has when it's not too straight)

but I'll try to follow the way they look from the middle part to where they start on top

[kindred comet]

in latest they seem to work but will stop working if you go somewhere that puts your umbrella away and then go back out into the rain

might be a conflict with the regular gap but i have no idea why that would be happening

regular walk/run footsteps always work fine though

[manic cedar]

it already feels much better with the new hair

now for the finishing deets

[craggy ice]

oh yeah that's more like it

[halcyon ether]

Sorry if this was asked before, but does anyone have an issue where they start the game, but it loops at the title screen? I saw an error that says it can't find the model, even though it worked last time 😭

[craggy ice]

i get the same problem

just restart

[halcyon ether]

I restarted maybe twice and the problem persisted though

[craggy ice]

huh

one sec

[halcyon ether]

Maybe I should try again? It'll be a roulette lol

[urban anvil]

this used to happen a lot to me sometimes you just have to restart like 3-4 times

[craggy ice]

is it "C000_007_00.GMD"?

[halcyon ether]

Sorry im not at my deck, so I can't see it

[craggy ice]

for me it works after one restart

you can have reloaded 2 spit out a log txt file iirc

[halcyon ether]

Okay, I'll try again after when I get back home
And raven, thanks for the check, I'll see if I get that line

[craggy ice]

"C000_007_00.GMD" is the error i always get

[halcyon ether]

I play on my deck so idk how I'll be able to spit that out

I'll look via the command prompt lol

[craggy ice]

[urban anvil]

Well the logs go... somewhere

[craggy ice]

i use linux too. the txt file will probably end up in your proton prefix somewhere

[urban anvil]

Well the method for installing reloaded on the steamdeck is kind of annoying

[craggy ice]

it's not that hard. you just install it in the dedicated proton prefix

[urban anvil]

for some reason they made it more complicated than just a regular linux install

[plucky rapids]

that doesnt look like a valid model id...

[halcyon ether]

It took me eons.... a weekend

[craggy ice]

that's what shows up for me

[plucky rapids]

like, jonklers major id is 1 and it counts up from there

so trying to grab major id 0 for a character model sounds like a straight up bug

[craggy ice]

it only started happening after i started using this mod

[halcyon ether]

Ohhhh but you have to disable it for kasumi's model to load

[craggy ice]

it could be a straight up protontricks problem

[urban anvil]

protontricks makes me wanna strangle someone

[craggy ice]

cmon protontricks is awesome

[halcyon ether]

Mood honestly

[craggy ice]

you don't have to install any runtimes like wine

[halcyon ether]

Yeah but protontricks makes reloaded bug out

A lot

[urban anvil]

I'm not a hardcore linux user

[craggy ice]

yeah....

[urban anvil]

oh yeah the flickering is so awesome

[halcyon ether]

The thing was lighting up like a Christmas tree

[kindred comet]

that isnt an issue with my mod

[craggy ice]

we can ping sewer, but he said he had no clue

[plucky rapids]

if windows users dont have this issue then maybe

[halcyon ether]

While amusing, it kept closing 😭

[kindred comet]

i changed nothing about the title screen except for the model, and that model doesnt seem like it exists to begin with

yeah its probably a linux/proton issue

ive never seen a windows user have that error

[craggy ice]

i wonder why it would call an invalid model id?

[halcyon ether]

Thanks linux, u continue to cause me problems -_-

[craggy ice]

don't diss linux smh

[kindred comet]

(and if it is you'd have to ask in p5-user-help, its not an issue with my mod so i cant do anything about it)

[kindred comet]

idk

[craggy ice]

i already have a thread there. one second

[kindred comet]

sorry i just wanted an excuse to post this

[craggy ice]

stretched kasumi

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1403852916015628422 here. we can continue to talk about it here

[plucky rapids]

me about to set up win10/nobara dual boot so i still have a supported os that isnt win11

[craggy ice]

i used nobara for a bit and just switched to base fedora kde

sure you have to configure fedora a bit but i didn't like the way nobara's kde looked lol

[plucky rapids]

ive mostly been eyeing nobara since it has a bunch of gaming shit out of the box

[craggy ice]

but fedora-based distros for the win ✊

bazzite's a good fedora-based gaming distro too

[craggy ice]

all it's got is protontricks, wine, lutris, and steam pre-installed lol

if you have nvidia you can pre install the drivers too but it's as simple as sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia

[craggy ice]

and wine isn't even pre-configured

[halcyon ether]

I'll stop if it works for me 😭

[halcyon ether]

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll check it out later!

Oh you know what, I never checked if the intro is skipped on essentials

I'll disable it and see what happens

[kindred comet]

shrimply use win10 ltsc 2021

no feature updates, much less bloat, and it'll still be supported for a few years

its what i use and its great

[plucky rapids]

i mean i probably will do that too but i also want linux in addition tbh lol

[kindred comet]

only downside is you'll have to use powershell to install some uwp apps if you want those for some reason

i used to have likke

[craggy ice]

escape the windows shackles

[kindred comet]

linux mint on one of my hard drives so i could dual boot into it (and win 7) but the hdd made it so fucking slow that i just wiped it and used it as a normal drive, not enough space on my ssd to dual boot unfortunately

[craggy ice]

i still have my old hdd because. it's glued to my boot ssd

[kindred comet]

im riding out win10 until its last breath

win11 looks like a disaster

and its ugly

harder to recreate the vista/win7 look on it too

[ashen sapphire]

keke

[halcyon ether]

"Hey kids, let's use the apple UI on windows 11"

[kindred comet]

is that 11

[ashen sapphire]

si

[kindred comet]

the icons look weird but do you have aeroglass

[ashen sapphire]

its all customizable

im using startallback

[craggy ice]

i HATE the macos look

[kindred comet]

yeah but do your windows have glass

[halcyon ether]

Oh wow, I haven't seen that UI since early 2000s

[kindred comet]

also was able to kill immersive menus with windhawk

[craggy ice]

nostalgia blast

[kindred comet]

default win10 actually doesnt look that bad, i do like acrylic but it looks very flat most of the time

and then win11 is just dollar store macos

dollar store macos that has a chance to corrupt your ssd

and is just infested with more microsoft bullshit

[ashen sapphire]

Sorry, wifi died, i dont have that option enabled, but its there

[plucky rapids]

i love having built in spyware and genai /s

[ashen sapphire]

mmmm copilot how i love you

[kindred comet]

its rly funny that onedrive desktop is seemingly enabled by default on 11

[craggy ice]

it is

[kindred comet]

[craggy ice]

i had to go through so many hoops to disable it

[urban anvil]

i love the cold grip of microsoft

[kindred comet]

if you want to make a local non ms account please survive the 30 trials by combat

[urban anvil]

command grabbing my pc

[craggy ice]

i love not actually owning my computer

[urban anvil]

you own the hardware, buddy

[kindred comet]

i hope win10 discontinuation backfires and they have to go back and support it

like how xp or win7 had an extended lifespan

[urban anvil]

that would be hilarious

[kindred comet]

remember when win 10 was the "last" windows version

[urban anvil]

ai got something to do with this

[ashen sapphire]

I mean they already backtracked on their initial statement by offering that extended support programme previously exclusive to corporations

[kindred comet]

[inland linden]

how.... teach me your ways...

realizing now thats a vm im so oupid

[kindred comet]

it's not

[urban anvil]

damn

[kindred comet]

i use startisback, aero10 (i think, its been a while), openglass, and a bunch of windhawk themes + some manual replacements

though i prefer the look of vista tbh

[ashen sapphire]

^

Startallback my precious

[inland linden]

im being shown wonders i never could dream of

[manic cedar]

One last update on how it looks now. Fixed a bit of her chin and jaw, got her hair to properly move towards the ponytail, fixed her bangs, a few shading things here and there, and overall i think this should be the final version

[halcyon ether]

Oooo pretty!

Also, enabling skip intro worked for me. Everything works now

[craggy ice]

your shading is sooo good omg

[craggy ice]

yeah i started doing this and it came back eventually lol

[manic cedar]

got the hang of it after so mich trying

[astral chasm]

her hands in this are just ~chef's kiss

[ruby adder]

I'm a little worried about the rotation of elbows and arms, but this is what Zen (full lotus position) is like in Japanese temples.
The position of the hands is different from the full lotus position in yoga.

[kindred comet]

Oh, yeah I see the issue

I was having a lot of difficulty posing the initial lotus position animation

iirc I was trying to go for full or half

[ruby adder]

In Japan, the half lotus position is generally thought of as being for people with stiff bodies, so I thought it might not be suitable for a rhythmic gymnast like Kasumi.

[kindred sonnet]

never would have figured following along for a few mods would end up teaching me how to sit differently but here we are

[manic cedar]

"chair"

[kindred comet]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/620894

[kindred sonnet]

nice ill install this do i need to worry about load order with R&V

or can it happily sit w.e reloaded puts it

[kindred comet]

nope

[kindred sonnet]

ok

was the sound effects driving you wee bit batty

[kindred comet]

https://gamebanana.com/sounds/82061 moved it to sounds, redownload if you want auto update support to work

[kindred sonnet]

do I need remix toolkit turned on

or does it turn itself on and off as needed?

[kindred comet]

dont think so

should just take care of itself automatically

[kindred sonnet]

like unreal toolkit

and a few others i have that seem to always be off but still run

[inland linden]

just wondering if theres any plans to edit the thieves den portraits and icons? (the icon to change costume and the portraits for tycoon as they still show ren and use his voice lines)

[manic cedar]

done

[manic cedar]

my focus was on the "game", as of the moment

didn't even stop to think about the thieves den

but who knows

i might

[inland linden]

afaik all of the assets for kasumi should already exist

[trail topaz]

What’s this for

[trail topaz]

There’s a mod for kasumi in tycoon

[inland linden]

just found it lol

but it sets the voices to jp?

will have to report that

[kindred comet]

none on my end

also i dont handle voice lines

if i did they would be forced english which would alienate players who use jp voices

[kindred comet]

thats intentional iirc

idk if they'll do an english version or not

[inland linden]

im so stupid

[kindred comet]

maybe @open gull could look into adding eng and jp tycoon lines to voice patch

[inland linden]

i need to read things fully

sorry for the trouble >_<

[kindred comet]

you're fine!

[manic cedar]

a portrait pack I've been doing that just adds my hand-drawn animated versions to the game

[open gull]

I'd love to, but I don't even know where to begin with those. Sumire and everyone else has like 100 more tychoon lines than Joker and the Cue IDs don't give any indication of how they match up. Not to mention all the unused lines as well as the fact that I barely even know how tycoon works to begin with.

[manic cedar]

@red orbit sorry for the sudden ping, but I just wanted to recall the options you usually have whenever exporting a png to .dds to persona through NVIDIA texture tools

I'm about to test the sprite in-game, and I wanted to make sure I wouldn't end up screwing something up

[kindred comet]

you would probably just have to use ryo in debug mode

[kindred comet]

export to dds and turn mips off

bc7 is generally preferred too

[kindred sonnet]

I never really played or touched the card game

was never big on them in rpg's only one I could barely tolerate was the one in FF9 and that was only barely

and i hunted down a mod to remove gwent from witcher 3 lol

couldn't stand the thing

[manic cedar]

alr, ty

[plucky rapids]

i feel like someone should make some kind of utility mod that just fetches the game's voice language and lets you selectively use files based on what it returns
idk how youd fetch voice language though

[manic cedar]

I'm pretty happy with how it came out

[kindred comet]

true but also it can just be solved by having two separate downloads, which is what voice patch has

and it gives me an excuse not to deal with or maintain vo, which i hate dealing with regardless

[kindred comet]

That looks super nice, great work ^^

[plucky rapids]

i suppose yeah, its just an idea thats been stuck in my craw for a while (i see voice stuff come up wrt other mods sometimes)

[craggy ice]

my legs hurt just looking at it

[craggy ice]

oh WOW that's good

the blinking adds so much more life

[trail topaz]

Does she blink normally

[manic cedar]

not that I know of.

i don't believe the base ones from the mod do

[manic cedar]

forgot to send it here. Pngs in hand. If anything's wrong, do send me a msg

[kindred comet]

ty!!

[kindred comet]

It looks great ingame, tysm again ^^

i think the only one left is just the velvet room/bath portrait with her hair down

[strange linden]

I think there's also a special cut-in for baseball minigame

[kindred comet]

well those don't really any non vanilla versions

[thorn nimbus]

I could imagine this bustup used in Rose & Violet except her hair and eyes needs to be Brown there and her Mask be White there lol

[kindred comet]

I mean, yeah

there'll be a rose and violet version

like usual

[thorn nimbus]

So true there lol

[manic cedar]

already exists

I've made it for that add-on

we just need zylvos to decide what to do with it, either posting it now or on another update

I'm fine with whatever he choses

[thorn nimbus]

Ah well I'm curious of what he'll choose there o:

[plucky rapids]

is that the same one as darts or

[zealous fjord]

The R&V variant will be in the next update

[kindred comet]

yes

even though I already replaced that joker cutin so idk what they're talking Abt

tested it in both darts and batting cages

[thorn nimbus]

Very nice 👀

[strange linden]

I forgot you replaced the cutin, sorry for bothering you about it

[kindred comet]

New update later today 🔜

[trail topaz]

oooo

[spice grotto]

Aww sweet

[kindred comet]

Update is now out, here's the patch notes https://gamebanana.com/updates/365893

Have fun

[manic cedar]

being reffered to as "the biggest addition" did not fail to bring a smile to my face

ty for the kind words wisty

means a lot

[kindred comet]

You're welcome :)

[light horizon]

speaking of which... wasn't there a toggle for blue winter clothes? pretty sure that one doesn't take off shoes when laying on bed like during takemi (Death) confidant

[kindred comet]

yeah blue dress over winter casual

i never really play with it on so i never noticed, i'll check really quickly

[light horizon]

I've been making CHN SUB videos with r&v, and I didn't think about mentioning this detail until now lmao

mostly because I was busy with video editing

[kindred comet]

i guess its because they didnt model the bottom of her socks

[light horizon]

ah damn okay

[kindred sonnet]

does this new bust up replace kasumi the player character or sumire wonder if should use this option or the option kept on in R&V

[quartz gyro]

sorry just curious and trying to figure this out. is that replacing this one or is it a different bust-up that just looks similar?

[kindred comet]

Its replacing that one yeah

[quartz gyro]

gotcha. I saw it was was like "didnt that already exist, or am i just crazy" lol

[hollow canyon]

i thought that one was already really great tbh haha

[manic cedar]

it's not that it's bad

it's an artist thing where when i see something can be improved, it keeps nagging in my mind

lines were thin, expression could be changed, posture and hands could be worked on

and yeah

[inland linden]

im making a mod to replace joker's phone texture and i want to add an option for this mod (i doubt kasumi would have the same phone case as joker) and i was wondering if anyone had any ideas for kasumi's? ^_^ (i was thinking a rose or flower design)

sumire does have her own phone texture but its just a boring solid color

[sonic finch]

What about something with blue flowers and a glass slipper for the Cinderella theming?

https://www.redbubble.com/i/iphone-case/Glass-Slipper-by-zwashington80/32634739.5HT9M

Like this one is cute

[inland linden]

oooo thats cute

definitely like the colors for that

[astral chasm]

something related to roses, maybe?

[kindred sonnet]

I approve the blue is pretty too

im a sucker for blue though

[tawny fable]

Hey I had some ideas to get the mod to work on switch cuz I’m having trouble with animations from optimizations of the gap files

It’s not certain it will work but once I see if it’s possible I’ll send a tutorial of it if it does work on how to mod the switch version

Well I’m gone to bed

[kindred comet]

true

okay this model is just a broken mess

got it to import correctly with an older version of blendertoolsforgfs, mouth was bugged out in the rest position "animation" so i reverted that, looks fine in gfdstudio until you play an animation with mouth rigging

[kindred sonnet]

thats mildly terrifying >.<

[kindred comet]

well whatever

i dont really need the vanilla model anyway

[kindred sonnet]

what model do you use?

your own?

[kindred comet]

the one by croissant guard and zylvos

just with sumire's head/hair

its basically just the summer casual outfit but with removable shoe support for events that use it

[kindred sonnet]

ah

so for the doctor etc

[kindred comet]

shut up sae remake before persona 6

[craggy ice]

yes fuck you sae (affectionate)

now make a shut up siu director

[kindred comet]

[kindred sonnet]

siu and shido

shut both of them up

[kindred comet]

okay this is really easy

for some reason i just

didnt use framejump in the original version

probably because i didnt know it existed or was overwhelmed by the giant wall of commands

[craggy ice]

looking at code scares me too

even cli prompts. if they get too complicated i'm like fuck this

i need gui

[kindred comet]

i hate command line

also yeah evt editing was

really

really

really

really

[craggy ice]

that's why i love evtui

[kindred comet]

really

painful before evtui

[craggy ice]

aye

[kindred comet]

even shut up sae which literally only just like

deleted commands

was annoying to make

im pretty sure the takemi event is still bugged

[craggy ice]

zylvos seems to be a master at evttool tho lmao

[kindred comet]

does zylvos not use evtui

[craggy ice]

nope. still uses evttool

[kindred comet]

why

[craggy ice]

says he likes it

idk

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord answer for your crimes

[craggy ice]

that's gonna take a while. it's like 4 am for him

[kindred comet]

im aware

[craggy ice]

what is his timezone anyway

[kindred comet]

i have no idea

[deep stirrup]

Vampire sumi

[gritty orbit]

Almost time for Halloween.

[kindred comet]

i forgot the game already has framejumps that check if youve maxed out sae

except for like ryuji ann morgana

so this'll be really easy

i do find it kinda funny they put that in there

like i get why but jesus christ

shut up igor

[kindred comet]

which they seemlingly messed up a bit

you'll hear the bgm play twice after the rank 1 rank up screen

because they didnt add a condition to the bgm that checks the same flag as the framejump

[kindred comet]

also takemi keeps her eyes closed

anyways easy fix

that was something that was bugging me in the original shut up sae ;-;

i'll throw in a rose and violet compatibility toggle while im at it

[zealous fjord]

Because of my work, I'm way too used to editing raw files. Clicking menus is physically painful 👀

[zealous fjord]

Actually almost 6am. My timezone is GMT+1 👀

[craggy ice]

what do you do for work that makes you hate clicking menus 😭

[dense prawn]

I'm usually the same way, ironically enough 😅

[craggy ice]

you're only 6 hours ahead of me... thought it was a bigger gap lol

[craggy ice]

evtui creator dislikes gui 💀

[kindred comet]

zylvos rn

[craggy ice]

what did they do to you...

[dense prawn]

I just think a GUI needs to be justified, haha. That's why I don't want to make an actual release until model/camera position previewing works

[craggy ice]

I'm so gui pilled I copy and paste as much cli as I can

sometimes I'll copy one command

[kindred comet]

cookie clicker cli edition 😔

[craggy ice]

too much type

[kindred comet]

this feels like seeing vanilla p3's tanaka SL for the first time

[zealous fjord]

Very old code that are quite niche. People in that field are used to it, so there isn't really a push to modernize it on that front. They're being updated, but it's still used like it's the 1980s

[dense prawn]

Omg, do you work on, like, ancient finance-related code in COBOL or something....

[kindred comet]

true

@zealous fjord is there any particular reason why the evt files in your mod are in the character folder?

luckily i think the only evt conflict i have between shut up sae and r&v is the sumire rank 1 evt

but it does mean i cant overwrite your files without creating a bind

which i can do for r&v compat but if you ever make changes to the rank 1 events theres not much i can do, i dont really want to do everything through crifs binds

a lot of these dont even seem to include the ecs

which i did notice when i was playing, i play with shut up sae so the audio commands got desynced due to r&v not including an ecs (and instead the one from shut up sae being used)

[stone lark]

no matter what i do, i can't seem to get the kasumi over joker voice patch to work, i believe i have everything up to date and i do not think it it is clashing with any other mods because i've tried it with everything off except the dependencies and it still did not work, is there anything i could do about it?

[kindred comet]

do you have ryo framework

and is your game itself up to date

[kindred sonnet]

post a picture of your mod list?

[kindred comet]

well if you do have ryo and your game is up to date make a help post in #1045463162452987924

[zealous fjord]

I don't remember. Maybe it was to make them override you event edits, before they were made optional in your mod

[kindred comet]

i dont think i ever added them before i made the config menu

anyways its kinda whatever for now since i already made the bind config for shut up sae, it'll just bind the sumire event

[zealous fjord]

Oh Sumire's hair here. This should be fixed in Rose & Violet since it's an issue with Sumire Overhaul

[kindred comet]

yeah i figured

i had r&v turned off so i could test this

[zealous fjord]

I'm most certainly going to make some adjustments to some Sumire events and dialogue in the future. This is her rank 1?

[kindred comet]

yeah

[zealous fjord]

I shouldn't need to change the .EVT for that one, maybe just the existing dialogues

[kindred comet]

if you do edit the evt for some reason then just let me know

i think its literally like a 1 command edit since i just used framejump (and its at the very bottom of the command list)

so it should be easy on my end

[zealous fjord]

Basically, I want to replace all instances of Sumire bowing to Kasumi, but I haven't found a good animation for it

[kindred comet]

ughh i totally need to get a new primary monitor

starting to get discoloration and lines

[kindred sonnet]

maybe the one where she taps her chin with one finger? its the only that keeps popping in my head

[swift ether]

OOOOH!!! I might have to sit down with Brawler’s tutorial so I can write music randomizer mods… After health obviously
(outfit bgm just always annoyed me in base game)
But that’s amazing!

Arigato. I know a lot of people will love this.

You’re wonderful!

[swift ether]

Thought you might appreciate this then!

[thorn nimbus]

Gotta love her in Kotone's Costume ❤️ one of my fave costumes for Kasumi as alot fitting on her alongside Kasumi Miku & Kasumi Robin 🙌

[halcyon ether]

Oh idk if anyone is still interested but

These are the error messages I saw in the command prompt when I tried to load up the game

Its definitely probably not at all related to the mod (as wisteria established), but just bringing in some closure and since raven wanted know

That said 💀 I turned the opening back on cause I really liked arbiter's opening and the game started normal. So.

[craggy ice]

huh that's a bit different from mine

[halcyon ether]

Sorry had to search; its diff yeah

I had to look through again to make sure if I was having the same error lmao

I'm just gonna chalk to up to Linux being mean to me and call it a day

[plucky rapids]

those would be the menu models added by cbt wouldnt they?

[halcyon ether]

I would assume it is, yeah

Only question is is that the only model I "edited" is just turning joker into slot 1 for kasumi

So like..........stares

[kindred comet]

https://tenor.com/view/business-business-man-shrug-shrugging-what-gif-23117746

[kindred comet]

you ever leave p5r paused in the background in the middle of a fight because you decided to tab out and get distracted for 2 hours

[craggy ice]

yes actually

[kindred comet]

yeah i do this all the time and it is most definitely a contributing factor as to why i never finish games

[craggy ice]

literally same

[kindred sonnet]

yup

though i also sometimes just leave P5R on idle at night in the rain

because yeah

Ill find a covered spot for kasumi and camp out

[urban anvil]

i just be afking

[astral chasm]

so guys, I found out that if you're having trouble downloading mods on GB, using a VPN or even your phone’s 5G fixes it. downloads just fine after that lol

[light horizon]

so uh I dunno if anybody else noticed the detail but I just noticed kasumi winks when ending a battle with miku costume wow

[craggy ice]

she winks now in every instance

[light horizon]

with miku costume? neat

[craggy ice]

no with default

[light horizon]

I don't think she did most of the time?

or unless that's older versions

[craggy ice]

older versions

recent update added the wink

[light horizon]

ah okay okay

[magic gyro]

hi, long time i dont check this mod progress.. how is it going?

[urban anvil]

it is done

well, released

[magic gyro]

let's gooo

[ashen sapphire]

Has been for a while haha

[light horizon]

yup

[kindred comet]

@open gull while playing with the JP voice patch I noticed a few audio clips that were really loud and had audio clipping. I've adjusted the volume and used a de-clip software to clean up the clipping a bit

[strange vector]

Hey big modder person, could you kindly trow the "Binden Mode" (Shut Up SIU Director) ZIP file my way? My ISP seems to really not like when i try to use GameBanana to download mods for P5R.

[strange vector]

Thank you verry much.

[ruby adder]

I was also concerned about that, so I made some fixes in my own mod. I also rewrote some lines that didn't quite fit the scene.

[open gull]

Ah thx! I'll add it in an update. Outta curiosity, was it the Tactica clips which had volume issues? Also, I oughta look into this de-clip software for the future.

[open gull]

Oh alright! Outta curiosity, what did you rewrite?

[kindred comet]

I have no idea

[ruby adder]

The most recent scenes I recall working on are the cutscene for the final shot at Maruki and the Satanael summoning scene during the Yaldabaoth battle.
I'm making adjustments here and there, so I'll provide them all together once I'm done.

[open gull]

Oooh alright! Are these text edits or audio edits?

[ruby adder]

that is audio edits.
The text is also synchronized with the audio.

[open gull]

Oooo alright!!

[ruby adder]

@open gull Since Wisteria handled the clipping and gain adjustment for VOICE_SINGLEWORD, I'll review the other audio and submit them.

[open gull]

Oooo! Outta curiosity, what's your mod?

[ruby adder]

my mod is that overhauls the Japanese language and events to match Kasumi as Protagonist.
In the process, some of the voiceline were also adjusted.

@open gull The ShowTime voice was previously submited, so this is the remaining portion.
Also, the voice for Futaba's finish in the All-Out Attack was in English, so the Japanese voice is packed as well (BP01\4102.cue)

[open gull]

Ah okay!

[open gull]

This is probably a silly question, but you good with this being added to the voice patch in an update?

I barely know a word of Japanese, so I pretty much just picked the exact equivalents of the English lines.

[swift ether]

Seriously? the jp voice patch is really decent. I even recommend it for non Kasumi people since it’s stand alone if they need a not male voice. Well thank you. As someone who know a decent amount of Japanese I really appreciate you taking the time.

Goddess Aqua is truly watching over us

[ruby adder]

np. please use it.

[open gull]

Hehe, thx for the kind words! I'm glad you like it and that it turned out decently!

[open gull]

Will do thx!

[ruby adder]

@open gull Sorry, I forgot to change the voice for the ShowTime boss battle, so I'll make that and submit it quickly.

[ruby adder]

@open gull Showtime audio for boss battles

[open gull]

Ah nice thx!!

I don't think Showtime boss lines have actually been touched yet.

[ruby adder]

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X · Sep 24, 2025, 2:29 AM

[thorn nimbus]

Ooh I guess people over at Japan wanted to play as FeMC Kasumi there 👀

[small stream]

yeah i mean orginally P5R is suppose to have femc based on conept art

[thorn nimbus]

Yup I remember that one

Brown Hair, FeMC Joker's Mask & Heart Shaped Window Leotard

[small stream]

makes me wonder what femc orgin story will be like.....

[thorn nimbus]

Rightt

[spice grotto]

Oh what could’ve been

[rapid pine]

What should have been

[bold flicker]

I know right

[sick breach]

It was supposed to be a femc and a male MC at the same time but was cut

[astral chasm]

what, where did u get that info?

I heard about femc and male mc at the same time about the new persona 6, not p5r

[sick breach]

Because it was cut super early

It a picture of joker and the cut female protagonist in the car together (I lost the picture tho)

[ashen sapphire]

When companies have to start cutting corners, they start with their largest additions, female mcs have been a side project since 2009

[sick breach]

Faz on yt

It where I saw the picture

[small stream]

Pretty sure there is meant to be a femc since vanilla game there is the yoshizawa twin and concept wise if player choose femc she would have her own origin story as one of the twins.

[sick breach]

• kasumi was supposed to have a showtime attack with akechi XD I always wonder how it supposed to went

[swift ether]

The BetaFeMC project technically started out as the same thing the P3 FeMC mod did. As a cut content restoration mod. Both aim to “restore” the cut FeMC and associated content to their respective games. Just P3 has more publically known content to restore whereas P5 they are working on tween Nanako, expanding a new area for both exploration and hideout and more. Also some ideas not in the beta at all to give it its own identity. Check out the mod page they have a discord

[snow aspen]

Akage reference

[ruby adder]

@kindred comet Previously, I reported an error in the herbal bath rendering at the public bathhouse. It appears the effect and texture call order is off by one.
A) Non-summer: Mugwort is rendered as yuzu
B) Summer: Peppermint is rendered as mugwort
C) Winter Solstice: Yuzu is rendered as peppermint

I'll investigate the call flags a bit further.

[kindred comet]

Next update will replace Joker's message tone with Yoshizawa's

vanilla

Actually I'll add it to gentle sfx collection too

Alright updated gentle sfx collection with it

https://youtu.be/3HJqI-WJN9E

[craggy ice]

so much nicer omg

[kindred sonnet]

holy shit that is so much nicer

i love it

can we use that file now?

or wait for ubdate

[kindred comet]

Download the new gentle sound effect collection update and toggle the notification sound option on

[thorn nimbus]

That Ringtone does fit Kasumi's phone there 👀

[spice grotto]

Very pleasant like her

[kindred sonnet]

ty

[ruby adder]

Kasumi as Protagonist Japanese Overhaul Version 1.0 has been released.
Thank you for your cooperation.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/622761

[ruby adder]

Japanease Overhaul Mod Ver.1.0 Trailer Movie is available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQk93rQwG0I
I apologize for the delayed notification, I have written the following names to the credits at the end of the video:
@kindred comet, @zealous fjord, @open gull (HappyGrinch08).

[zealous fjord]

Congratulations on the release!
I don't speak japanese so I can't really read the edits you've made. Looking at the amount of files you've edited though, I know for sure that you deserve to take a break, ahah

Out of curiosity, how did you handle Sumire? You said in your mod page that she's s atranger, but is she still Sumire/Kasumi or a completely new character? Does she remark on how the protagonist looks like her?

(You can answer in spoiler, if you think this is a spoiler for your mod)

[ruby adder]

@zealous fjord Thank you.
I checked the properties of the Mod folder...
It contained 6,419 files and 214 folders lol.

The protagonist is fundamentally a different person from Kasumi Yoshizawa or Sumire.
However, various NPCs will point out that she looks similar.
Different people, yet similar
To resolve this contradiction, I drew inspiration from Japan's subculture secret weapon: “Narou-esque settings.”

@zealous fjord
||After losing Kasumi in an accident, Sumire received counseling from Maruki. At that time,||
||she wished not only to “become Kasumi” but also for “Kasumi's resurrection.”||
||Maruki didn't possess such power back then, but through the strength of his and Sumire's feelings, only her soul came to dwell within the protagonist.||
||That's the setting.||
||This part only becomes clear during the February conversation with Maruki in the True+AkechiR10 scenario. ||
||I added a line like “The reincarnation of the goddess who changed the fate of the world” to give it a bit of a Shin Megami Tensei vibe and make it feel authentic.||

I don't have the skill to make a mod as polished as Rose&Violet,😭
so I tried to create settings that resolve some contradictions without changing the scenario or co-op.

[zealous fjord]

Oooh, that's an interesting take!
||It's also helped by the fact that Kasumi's resurrection wouldn't solve Sumire's issue on its own. She needs the protag, wether it's Joker or "Kasumi", to help her||

[ruby adder]

Alternate Models Long Hair
Thanks to you, I got this idea. I'm truly grateful.

[zealous fjord]

It's all relative to what story/overhaul you want to make. Event editing is difficult and tedious, so it's better to work with the base game and try to change the story around that. Thinking outside the box will help, but some contradictions can't be avoided (same in Rose & Violet).
Also, you did edit somes lines I didn't, like the small dialogues in menus ("What item should I use...?" or stuff like that). I didn't feel like I needed to edit those in english, so in that way, your mod is more polished than mine! 😉

[ruby adder]

The abundance of masculine and feminine language is one of Japanese's troublesome aspects.😔

[zealous fjord]

Oh, I see. In that case, changing gendered dialogues and some parts of the story must be have been a lot more work for you. Great work with that story overhaul!

That would also explain why it would be quite a bit more work for Atlus devs to make to FeMC

[kindred comet]

Congratulations on the release! I'll be sure to link to it on my mod page

[kindred comet]

fine, i'll do it myself

this wont be part of the main mod, i'll release it as an addon mod

[craggy ice]

are you gonna release a long hair model version? if so can i yoink them for my (real not protagonist) sumire with mytamagos hair mod?

i already got permission fro mytamagos to do it

[kindred comet]

if i find a way to automate it i can

[craggy ice]

all i'd have to do is do the bustups... sweats

[kindred comet]

I figured out how to automate it so long hair version will happen

[craggy ice]

yay

[kindred comet]

zombie

im gonna have to make four separate mods in total for this

im debating on rolling it all into two mods

and just adding a config option

but thats a load of wasted space

easy peasy

.....so does anyone have a p5r glasses overlay i could use for the bustup or am i gonna have to frankenstein the sumire one onto her

[snow aspen]

Okay based for the Ace Attorney emoji

[snow aspen]

🤔 thats a hard one you could Frankenstein Sumire or you can take from Ren and throw it in Kasumi

[kindred comet]

quit staring at me with them big ol eyes

[craggy ice]

you can just photo shop them to be by themselves. shouldn't be that hard

[snow aspen]

She likes staring at you with them big ol eyes

[kindred comet]

unfortunately i hate photoshopping bustups

like a lot

[craggy ice]

i'm gonna have to do a lot of it

making sumire bald then putting the hair on top

[kindred comet]

cries

[plucky rapids]

bald
bald...?

[craggy ice]

ripping the ponytail off

[plucky rapids]

(this is what the refrance) https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1148670477607387207

[craggy ice]

using magic wand to fuck away the ponytail

[craggy ice]

oh my god i hate it

[kindred comet]

her glasses can just do that

okay the frames wont even fully wrap around anyway and i am bad at stamp tool

it looks so bad 9 million years of despair

[spice grotto]

Getting there

[kindred comet]

im going to sleep soon but if anyone wants to give it a shot (or redraw the glasses as a layer) here are the sprites

[ashen sapphire]

Sure

I might

[kindred comet]

i was looking at wonder over joker to see how the aoa splash art was handled and realized i never included a motionse for kap so that will be fixed next update

[ashen sapphire]

oh congrattations on verified moddar

[kindred comet]

@open gull could you prepare an update for voice patch that removes the replaced gun sfx

in my experience it never worked anyway but better to be safe

[kindred comet]

think the only thing i'd have to fix now is swordtrack lazy, wont do it for now

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord could you lob me the script you use for optimizing models

[zealous fjord]

https://gist.github.com/MichaelGatesDev/0d3f075c5512bec9faa9be9ed033ff39

[kindred comet]

thanks

[zealous fjord]

I don't think it actually removes material duplicates. I usually fix this manually

[kindred comet]

good enough for a one click solution at least

[short spade]

so i was porting akechi's p5x weapons for my akechi protag mod and uhhhh i love to procrastinate work on my own projects so i also decided to grab some for kasumi
the first 2 being her own from p5x, the following 4 being from luce (might be too broad) and the final 4 being from cherish

i'd need to trim 2 but they could maybe be an additional option for the weapon model optional

kind of obsessed with that last one i wanna recolour it red maybe

[spice grotto]

Looks like Fire emblem weapons

[urban anvil]

this image doesnt do her 5 star weapon justice

[kindred comet]

oh those look nice

[sick breach]

Akechi protag mod???

[kindred comet]

replace the big bang burger with a giga pancake

[sick breach]

Seriously how do I play it? 🙏 Or it not done yet? Idm waiting

[kindred comet]

Trill (the goat forever) drew a glasses overlay so she will be real now

also i wont be including this bustup because i just remembered its used for the bath scenes too but

[manic cedar]

want me to make a "with glasses" version for mine?

Shouldn't be too hard, considering it's all 2d

[kindred comet]

Oh yeah, that would be perfect

Could you do it for the alt models one too?

Basically it would just need to be the neutral one and then the fogged up glasses one (which doesn't use eye blinking so you can just put the eyes in their normal place)

[manic cedar]

the alt model being RV or the long hair?

[kindred comet]

RV

[manic cedar]

yup, can do

[kindred comet]

[manic cedar]

I'll be busy this entire week, but yeah, that is very much doable

I'll get to it as soon as i can

[kindred comet]

Awesome, I'll prepare to upload it in the meantime and then add it in an update

Thank you

[manic cedar]

np, my pleasure

i also need to do the long hair variant for bath-house and prison which I forgot to do

anyways, I'll get both done

[kindred comet]

[strange vector]

Friends, something is wrong whit my party panels.

[spice grotto]

Uh oh

[strange vector]

No matter what i do, shit doesn't work.

[kindred comet]

what mods are you using

[strange vector]

Just a sec.

I was using Colorfull pack too, yeeted it because i thought it was conflicting whit EPIC Party panels.

[plucky rapids]

try moving epic above sumi protag

[strange vector]

Seems to have fixed it.

Let me just reach the part where Sumire shows up to be sure.

[kindred sonnet]

new variation of the model? or a new add on mod?

[strange vector]

And now we rolling people!

[kindred comet]

be sure to turn on the config option in alt models to get kasumi's party panel colored in like the other ones

[strange vector]

Fuck yeah! Thats that GOOD shit!

It's the first time i play the Kasumi as protag "Modpack", i was waiting for the first wave of bugfixes to hit.

[open gull]

I can, but in this case, wouldn't it be better to make it a toggle instead? (I haven't had any issues with the gun sfx, and people will notice if it gets removed.) On a related note, what's the issue? I looked at the video and I didn't see it.

[kindred comet]

a toggle for what

[plucky rapids]

you could have it check if epic (or colorful pack) is enabled and load the sprite based on that though idk if you prefer the extra bit of choice (and i think youd have to force load the other mod before loading your sprite to make it respect priority?)

[kindred comet]

motionse?

i prefer choice

[plucky rapids]

yeah i had a hunch that was why

[strange vector]

Gotta say, i always smile seeing how a simple model swap breaks animations in funny ways.

[kindred comet]

i could do that but i really dont feel like making another motionse just with most of the minor edits i made nuked

well

fuck it

actually no nvm

[plucky rapids]

(even if i dont imagine a lot of people choosing to enable epic and then wanting sumi alone to have the regular or colorful pack sprite)

[strange vector]

Like, Kasumi is straight up not in cuffs, the cuffs are just floating.

[kindred comet]

its more than a simple model swap but yeah

[strange vector]

Also, all the camera angles where she is low on the screen, some where she almost isn't on screen, cause the angles where meant for Ren (Is the fandom okay calling him Ren? Don't like calling only him by the codename) and Kasumi/Sumire is smoll!XD

[strange vector]

Could you enlighten this here ignorant?

[kindred comet]

its all on the feature list but many, many anims were tweaked and edited to nuke joker pose jumpscares

all of the cutscenes anims were edited as well, objects weren't edited because they would be a pain

[strange vector]

Ah, i see. The never ending battle. There is always something else to be tweaked. Learned that hard on uni after i nearly din't finish a text because i keept rewriting it!XD

[strange vector]

On a scale from snaping fingers (0) to 🎵 How will know (100), how much would it make one want to bang their head on the wall if they dared?

[kindred comet]

100 because there's basically no way to accurately preview both the objects and model anim while editing them

and objects dont import with the correct root bone with gfstools anyway

[strange vector]

Oh.....

So you gotta edit it, hope you got it right and the only way to check is WATCHING THE CUTSCENE!

Yeah, i see how that quickly turns into a torture method.

[plucky rapids]

evtui render preview...someday ...

[dense prawn]

I may have something cooking re: model positioning, but objects may still complicate things, depending on whether they're attached....

...but I guess the main problem here is that they're not attached? So maybe it won't be too hard.

[craggy ice]

I was thinking the best way to fix the objects was to just attach them to the bones

for the fact that Kasumi is short idk about that one lol

the camera being right above her head always made laugh

[kindred comet]

i dont want to include a shitload of evts

[strange vector]

Evt= Event?

[kindred comet]

yeah

[kindred comet]

just move the animation's root bone up

the bed thing only happens because there's a billion dupe animations

realistically all you would need to do is find those dupe gaps and replace them with the anims i already did for the bed

[strange vector]

In uneducated terms, move Kasumi's model up?

[kindred comet]

yeah

also could you please turn off mention when replying to my messages

[strange vector]

oh, sorry.

[strange vector]

Gonna be honest, i did not know i could do that.

[strange vector]

She smoll.

[craggy ice]

do you not like being pinged? I'll turn it off from now on