#(P5R PC) Kasumi as Protagonist

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ionic fulcrum
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Now that we have a Kasumi mod, we need a Akechi mod where Joker and Akechi switch off places

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But they’re still the same characters

cyan needle
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Also I'm curious

kindred comet
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I believe @short spade is working on that

cyan needle
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It said we'd need to install a she her mod to replace the pronouns?

kindred comet
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Yeah, there's one on gb

ionic fulcrum
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Not with @zealous fjord’s mod

kindred comet
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Either that one or use the upcoming story overhaul by Zyvlos

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Editing dialogue would make this mod take even longer to get out

ionic fulcrum
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Which most people would do anyways I think

cyan needle
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Yeah I'm waiting until wisteria releases the kasumi mod to do my second playthrough

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I'm curious to see what dialog is changed ect

kindred comet
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dialogue changes will be in zyvlos's story overhaul

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i might make my own at some point but currently this is all just visual only since changing the dialogue/overhauling the story would add a lot to my workload

cyan needle
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Ok i finished recoloring kasumi in royal

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All that's left is her jumping off the train

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And her persona

magic gyro
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re-done the shape of the jacket, but since the mesh i used is a cube the inner face is invisible, have to try fix that in some way

lean bough
magic gyro
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somehow did it

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now i run in game test

rain tangle
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This should def be a config option or something for the mod that would replace the base royal opening when it's fully done 🙏

magic gyro
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BETA RELEASE

  • mission a proper texture (for now is just the hair texture on it) and "some" (a lot of) piece of the model, basic suit done with right physics
  • to install: extract the zip and drag both file in the " ..costume/joker/" folder of the Wisteria mod
  • the belt will **interpenetrates **with the model but it will be **absent **in the final work
deep stirrup
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So, the kasumi story overhaul thats already on gb, how come there is two of them, but one doesn't have any file to download?

covert obsidian
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Pretty sure one of them was dropped and Zylvos's is still WIP till they are 90% done with it then ppl will be able to test it

zealous fjord
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If you're talking about the other story overhaul (not mine, archlamp's), there's indeed two of them. One is a "Project", the other a "WiP". I have no idea what's the difference, but there's indeed only one that has a file you can download

deep stirrup
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Gotcha

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and I learned that using said overhaul and sumire overhaul together is one heck of a fustercluck

zealous fjord
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Yeah, if they edit the same story files, it's going to get messy

silent cedar
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absolute cinema

kindred comet
cyan needle
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I think ima take a break today Mooipeek

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I did so much work yesterday

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I'll probably do the rest during my English class

wicked briar
sacred sable
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probably known but when searching for downshot on the server didn't come up in this thread, sword clips into leg with downshot, footage from ||maruki||

rain tangle
# sacred sable

It's fixed in the latest test build, as that sort of stuff have been given physics.

sacred sable
kindred comet
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clipping is inevitable, even vanilla p5 has quite a bit of clipping

cyan needle
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@kindred comet Question

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Would you say this mod is a collab between you and the same modder making the violet and roses story overhaul?

kindred comet
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not really

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Zylvos does contribute anim and event fixes but it's not really a collab

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our projects are separate, theirs uses mine as a base

cyan needle
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Gotcha

magic gyro
kindred comet
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i think it looks really nice ^^

magic gyro
magic gyro
sacred sable
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ah

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public version is .2

kindred comet
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yeah unfortunately i cant pin things so the download is buried

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gimme a sec

sacred sable
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I figured it out in the end, but because of that I wasn't sure if the static hair was a fault of my jerryrigging or just it being a beta model

kindred comet
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Latest test build: vPRE-3-0.9.9 (Pre-Release 3 HF3 - 6/3/2025)

Latest changelog: #1094412112576651314 message

Download link: https://pixeldrain.com/l/mrULL5wW

Make sure you download costume framework and configure it in reloaded-ii, joker's asset slot should be set to 1

HOW TO FIX CONFIG SCREEN CRASHING:
Refer to this video - #1094412112576651314 message

Download the voice patch from here: https://gamebanana.com/sounds/73909

GameBanana

Download the Kasumi over Joker Voice Patch Sound Mod for Persona 5 Royal (PC). Customize your gameplay with this fan-made P5R (PC) Sound Mod by HappyGrinch08 in the Voices category,

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@pallid plover could you pin this?

kindred comet
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thanks YukaW

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wow okay

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cries in the corner

pallid plover
sacred sable
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should all of the kasumi mods compatible with .2 be fine with .9?

kindred comet
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the majority of them arent needed anymore (and dont work with it anyways)

sacred sable
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kk

kindred comet
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equipment patch & cendrillon over arsene are included as config options now as well

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voice patch should be the only other mod needed atm

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thank god for voice patch bcs im not touching audio femcmad

sacred sable
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her calling every persona cendrillon is funny however

kindred comet
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i did the audio initially for like the first release and hated it, didnt help we didnt have ryo at that time so singleword awb just broke

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although i think i still have the do the audio for kasumi and... kasumi's showtime mayastare

sacred sable
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disembodied joker voice yeah I noticed that

kindred comet
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its bcs the showtime audio is all one big audio file

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which also includes the sound effects

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its all mixed down to like, 1 stereo channel

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so i have to do a lot of working around to cut out joker's voice while not nuking the sfx

sacred sable
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oh neat, persona has a failsafe when the costume you were wearing is no longer available, just goes to the next one over

kindred comet
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and kasumi doesnt have the biggest selection of voice clips anyway

kindred comet
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if this was vanilla itd just softlock

sacred sable
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ah

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gave too much credit

kindred comet
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actually

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@open gull could you look into extracting the tactica voicelines

sacred sable
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isn't she dlc exclusive?

kindred comet
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if you dont have tactica i can just give you the assetbundle

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and you can use assetstudio

kindred comet
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i have the dlc though

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i pre ordered the deluxe edition i think

sacred sable
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surely she'll have a plentitude of voice lines as a dlc character

kindred comet
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oh awesome, ty!

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whats violet com_voice btw

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p5x would be useful rn if it had eng dub

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assuming they dont just reuse voice lines (they probably will)

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honestly ive really taken persona audio modding for granted

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and cri audio modding

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i did not know the trenches of unity audio modding until i modded aa investigation collection

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its not even hard once you figure it out its just annoying

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but figuring it out took

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many many hours

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im glad atlus sticks with cri for some reason

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even for tactica

open gull
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Oh, the com_voice lines are basically the Tactica equivalent of voice_singleword.

kindred comet
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interesting

open gull
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Mindya, they take an inordinately long time to extract.

kindred comet
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sounds abt right

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by the way whats with the duped audio

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i think every audio in here has a dupe for some reason

open gull
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Eh?

kindred comet
open gull
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Ah, must be a goof on my part. Thx for pointing it out.

kindred comet
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nw!!

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dang laura post really slid back into the role super super naturally just based on these voice clips

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they sound pretty much straight out of p5r

kindred comet
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love how this joker animation literally looks like a normal sumi animation

cyan needle
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Who here

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Wants to see what's essentially 90% of the animation done

kindred comet
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me pleadeh

cyan needle
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Oki

magic gyro
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also me

cyan needle
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While it loads

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I animated something silly cause I couldn't sleep

magic gyro
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what time is ti for you?

cyan needle
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2:40AM

magic gyro
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5h difference

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i just woke up

kindred comet
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holy crap that is impressive

magic gyro
cyan needle
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It's rreennddeerriiinngg

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I might redo kasumis face, I dunno i feel I could do better

magic gyro
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and here is where you are wrong... you **CAN **do better, you always can

cyan needle
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Ok

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Sending

cyan needle
cyan needle
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Literally just TWO scenes left

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But I'm not looking forward to redrawing arsene...

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Trying to see of i can be smart and use a different scene that blends in well and just green screen the transition to the logo

magic gyro
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a bit of joker is still cool, he's still in the game

cyan needle
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He is?

kindred comet
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he isnt

magic gyro
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his soul is

kindred comet
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well not in this mod at least

kindred comet
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i love the lipstick on her face too, super nice addition

cyan needle
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I might try and be lazy by looking for royal scenes or something

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My poor fingers

kindred comet
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do whatever makes it easier for you!!

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youve already done more than enough and im forever thankful risepray

snow aspen
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What a hero 🫡

cyan needle
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Actually wait...

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I think i have an idea

snow aspen
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An idea?

cyan needle
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Omfg wait I'm a genuis

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Gimme 20 minutes

kindred comet
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also includes skirt physics as usual

snow aspen
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Oh god you have not been updating your mods haven’t you

kindred comet
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i have 😭

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i just havent opened reloaded in a few days

magic gyro
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mine was not pushing updates, it did now

snow aspen
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You using the one Ryo made?

kindred comet
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wait omg

magic gyro
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yeah, i need to press the button

kindred comet
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did file emulation finally get ast library update

magic gyro
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didn't know that

kindred comet
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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

magic gyro
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what's that?

kindred comet
# magic gyro what's that?

libraries for atlus script tools, basically msg editing and flowscript editing are a bit easier now since there's more labeled stuff and whatnot

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also means you dont have to use an ancient version of ast/astgui

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OH WAIT

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THIS MEANS I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIX THE BATHHOUSE DIALOGUE BEFORE YOU GO IN

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used to pray for times like this...

magic gyro
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flashback of me manually editing every confidant dialogue for my mod is happening... give me a second..

cyan needle
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My wifi went down

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Oof

kindred comet
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yap nation

snow aspen
kindred comet
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okay well new update just

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broke file emulation for me

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nothing is even using myptable so idk

snow aspen
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You ok there?

kindred comet
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suffering i fear

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does animatedswine have a thread where i can report this

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actually ig ill just make a help post

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okay disabling thieves den mods and ps4 reverts fixes it for now

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how it feels to disable ps4 reverts

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nvm title screen softlocks me

magic gyro
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is this the moment that I start to scream??

kindred comet
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no its okay

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manually downgrading should fix it for onw

magic gyro
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cuze I'm not gonna play with that horrible fade of the AOA

kindred comet
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okay im gonna aim for the next test build to be the pre-release build

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so it might take a bit longer for it to come out, but it should be more finalized

magic gyro
lean bough
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In 2025?

magic gyro
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dude, is faster

lean bough
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I use windows 11 cause I was forced to swap to it when I got a new pre-built gaming pc with better parts. I mean better GPU and better Processor and better ram.

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My old gaming pc barely ran persona.

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I had to play 30fps, minimum graphics.

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That’s how bad my old pc was

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So yeah…

magic gyro
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i'm using a intel laptop i5 11gen and i even played elden ring on this

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i don't know how, but i did it

lean bough
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Fair enough

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Al I know about my CPU is that it’s a 14th gen intel. But no idea what number it is. that I have a RTX 4060. And I think I have 16 or 32 gigs of ram.

magic gyro
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no graphic card here, is integrated

lean bough
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Yeah before I upgraded I was on an AMD cpu and integrated graphics before I then upgraded to a 1080 or maybe it was a 2060 I can’t remember. Either way it was better was good enough to run more games. Although I think my old pc couldn’t run Persona because it had like 8 gigs of ram or smthn.

lean bough
willow prairie
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…and here am i who installed windows 10 on my imac with boot camp to play test this mod

mighty snow
willow prairie
# lean bough The fuck?

like i said, i use apple's boot camp assistant to install windows 10.
it's only available to intel cpu powered mac models

kindred comet
lean bough
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ok

kindred comet
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quit starin at me with them big ol eyes

covert obsidian
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Omg

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I got that "bug" when Morgana wont disappear from the screen recently

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I couldnt stop laughing

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For a whole hour

kindred comet
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hes the observer

covert obsidian
kindred comet
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was finally able to add the line where he says he's gonna go for a walk while you relax

wicked briar
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I feel like someone should make a mod where Morgana is a girl. The name has always been a girl name to me. lol

rain tangle
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I mean he WAS originally planned to be a girl sooo naotoshrug

wicked briar
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GASP

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Someone needs to restore that ASAP then! 😄

rain tangle
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Sports car transformation and everything too

wicked briar
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I would so love female Morgana being all gay for Ann. Give it to me! Heheh 🙂 If I knew how to edit the text I would SO do that myself.

kindred comet
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i thought he was a girl up until like the 2nd arc 😭😭

wicked briar
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Heheh. Same.

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Someone really needs to do that as a mod.

wicked briar
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I just made a post in concept and projects asking if there were any modders who would be willing to make said mod. Hehe

covert obsidian
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my game decided to not open at all after I installed the new test version, any idea what could be causing it? this is the layout, was working fine before that

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nvm it decided to work randomly

kindred comet
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theres some issues with file emulation framework rn so that might be why

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which is out of my control

kindred comet
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down to the last 3d cutscene NoMoreCanon

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this is gonna be so painful LOL

deep stirrup
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I’ll be your cheerleader if need be lol

kindred comet
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also my pc was absolutely not enjoying having to render all this

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probably bcs i have like 200% render resolution and other things open

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gpu nuke

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okay this shouldnt be too hard, just tedious

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going to just reuse as many keyframes from sumire here as possible

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since baking for like all 22 animations would take forever

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the gun here looks really bad but with animaide it shouldnt be too too hard to fix it if i just use joker as a reference for her arm

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not sure why shes even moved that far to the right but shrugika

kindred comet
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welcome to sumi world

ionic fulcrum
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With a random Joker

magic gyro
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he's omnipresent, even when you don't see him

kindred comet
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also its sumire's birthday today MayaShock

sinful kiln
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it also made me realized how the rest of the phanton thief don't have their weapons on them during most cutscenes

urban anvil
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Where do half of them even store their weapons when they aren't using them

halcyon ether
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hammer space/j

sinful kiln
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what if outside of kasumi's sword none of the weapons are canon and the rest of the phantom theifs fight exclusively with their persona like in the anime

rain tangle
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I like to think they keep all of their weapons hidden away in their costumes, like Morgana has his sword in his bag, or Joker has his knife under his vest

sinful kiln
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i like my theory, because its funny to think that while the rest of the phantom theifs are doing magic with their persona, kasumi is going devil may cry on some fools

cyan needle
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Ima try and finish the opening today

supple moat
paper gull
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pretty sure its bc the 1.0 hasnt been released yet? its still in alpha lol

zealous fjord
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Well, there are two hotfix for the 8th test build. The last one is version 0.9.8.1 so it's probably not the latest hotfix

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The latest hotfix is this one

wraith juniperBOT
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Test Build 8 Hotfix 2

  • Fixed potential Kamoshida arc softlocks (AoA tutorial and fusion tutorial)
  • AoA tutorial will now automatically add and remove Eiha to Cendrillon
  • Reverted Protag Cendrillon and Protag Vanadis to fool
  • Removed Eiha from Protag's default accessory
    (These only apply to the skillset config)
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paper gull
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ah ok cool

kindred comet
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good catch ty

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im not sure why the hotfix didnt appear when i was searching for it femcthink

paper gull
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looking forward to both mods! also for posterity i was merely clarifying there was no 9.7

kindred comet
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there is i just linked the wrong one

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or well

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0.9.7

paper gull
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what i meant was there was no version past 1.0 lol

deep stirrup
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So, i have's a question, during the hawaii trip, we are still roomed with mishima, is this planned to be changed at all or?

kindred comet
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Maybe in the future but not for now

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There's quite a few events that are still like that and are out of my scope (for now)

deep stirrup
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Gotcha

covert obsidian
kindred comet
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aigis livestream aigisTrue aigisTrue

covert obsidian
gray slate
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romantic tension

mighty snow
velvet kite
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Hi, a lot of progress has been made on this mod since the last time I paid any attention to it, I was wondering if the option to have a Sumire/"long hair" version of the protagonist is still a planned feature. I made a mod to do that a few months ago before the mod picked back up on development, and I wasn't sure if it would be worth it to update my mod for the latest update of the main one

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If it is still a planned feature, I'd also be happy to contribute the models I spliced for the mod I made if that's an option

kindred comet
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a few models did get changed though so beware of that

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although i think most of them were hair down anyway 😛

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this was the plan for the sumire version btw

velvet kite
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I see I see. My copy of Royal has been having some issues lately, so I can't test which ones are incompatible with the latest mod version, but I'll go ahead and throw the models I made into a zip file sometime soon

covert obsidian
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Hair down saviour

velvet kite
kindred comet
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tysm!! i'll look into doing it soon

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big stuff happening

kindred comet
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AAAAAAAAAAA! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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i dont even know how or why her arm ended up so far away from the gun

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but its fixed now

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also im not changing this to be her actual gun

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would be too much work since itd probably clip and her hand would probably not be positioned correctly

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also ignore the broken jacket

willow prairie
kindred comet
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IMF REE

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i think i forgot ribbon physics for like 1 animation so ill fix that but AAAAAA (fixed and fixed the jacket freezing during the gun pull)

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also the audio desync is bcs my game is dropping frames

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unless theres a random cutscene i forgot this means every cutscene is done now

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also it kinda has skirt support, but with some clipping bcs of how high up her legs go when running (and i dont feel like fixing that)

kindred comet
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now i can actually close blender

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very lucky her mask almost always covers up the weird looking joker blend animations

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treating myself for finishing all the cutscenes

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this is so awesome though actually bcs now i can play ace attorney investigations in peace

ionic fulcrum
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YO 2 EXTRA MINUTES

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wait, doesn’t this mean you only sleep for 5 hours?

kindred comet
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no i stole this pic from twitter 😭

snow aspen
magic gyro
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what U SLEEP MORE THAN 5?!

cyan needle
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@kindred comet Guess what

pallid plover
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kasmui....

covert obsidian
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the better kasumi : kasmui

cyan needle
cyan needle
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All I humbly ask is if someone can help me write Mod created by Wisteria in the logo transition cause I'm ass at graphic designing

kindred comet
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billions just cheered like I literally just heard them

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thank you so much!!

cyan needle
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@kindred comet Yeah of course no problem at all

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Just, do you know anyone that can recreate the font to add it here?

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If not I can try

kindred comet
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I can do it if you'd like

cyan needle
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Then lemme send you the Google drive real quick

kindred comet
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by the way I can send you wake up get up get out there extracted directly from the game files if you want cleaner source footage

kindred comet
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unless it alrealdy is then 😝😝

cyan needle
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Oh wait

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Cant cause I mixed it

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The ending is different

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It uses the ending verse of wake up get up get out there

kindred comet
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if you want you could just send over the layers with just kasumi and i could put it over the footage too

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up to u tho!

cyan needle
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Oohh yeah gotcha

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Send it to me and once you finish crediting yourself in the video on that segment I'll use my editor to replace the none kasumi segments with the source video

rapid pine
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Everything here is so peak

kindred comet
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for some reason it extracted with some black bars around the bottom so you might have to crop it a little bit

lean bough
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I’ve actually just thought of something

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That I feel could apply for this mod and the story overhaul mod

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I know that @magic gyro made a white leotard for Protag Kasumi. Couldn’t that technically be Kasumi’s phantom thief outfit while her sister in the overhaul mod could have the black leotard?

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A kind of two sides of the same coin, yin and yang kind of deal?

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I just realised that while playing with Ultimo’s white leotard.

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Idk what you’d think of this @kindred comet And what Zylvos would think of it.

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But it’s just a suggestion if Ultimo is okay with it too

kindred comet
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i'd rather have it as a costume for now

lean bough
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It’s just a thought

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You know?

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Since it could be an interesting thing to differentiate them.

kindred comet
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@magic gyro do you still have the project files or whatnot you used to edit the textures for the white leotard

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like the layers

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since i did notice the textures are kinda low quality

cyan needle
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Also is that a photoshop file?

kindred comet
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yes

cyan needle
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Credits.psd

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I no have photoshop

kindred comet
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thats fine everything that was in it are the pngs in there

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i included it just in case

cyan needle
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Oohhhh gotcha

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Lemme cook now

haughty terrace
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Checking this thread has become a part of my daily routine now, I am just completely and utterly blown away by the effort and sheer quality of what you all are doing! I’m sure there are countless other fans lurking here like me who cannot wait to play! Keep it up guys 🙂

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Like this genuinely looks exactly like persona 5 if atlus themselves decided to make yoshizawa the femc

shell wren
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The “Yes!” Gif has become apart of my used gifs because of Wistera smh

kindred comet
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New costume based off her concept art by @worn topaz risepray risepray

prime orbit
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Custom bonus tweaks

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Unfortunate acronym

worthy dagger
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i said that a year ago bro

kindred comet
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2023 😭

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how did u even find that message

pallid plover
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bro 😭

pallid plover
kindred comet
kindred comet
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tweaked a few things

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also im not rly used to the mod menu freecam so sorry for the mid angles >_<

lean bough
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How the hell do you find that?

austere stirrup
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tbf it's one of the first messages in the thread so it's pretty easy to find

cyan needle
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@kindred comet guess what again

lean bough
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You updated the intro arbiter?

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I know I’m not wisteria but I had to ask

cyan needle
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heheh

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yup

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its 100 percent completed

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i snet wiseria the google drive link so whenever they can they can just add the opening to the mod and presto

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and maybe even use it for the mod trailer

lean bough
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Did you cut that out?

oblique juniper
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i dont check here very often so apologies for late comment but if you are still able to i advise making the highlights in this frame both be placed in the same place on the iris

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otherwise people might say shes looking cross eyed 😔

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other than that its cool seeing someone working on the OP too KittyYuha

rapid pine
cyan needle
# lean bough Wasn’t there a scene where Arsenal is summoned?

A few factors kinda went into it, i was gonna do it but since this is a free project I'm doing to help wiseria I had to cut it, plus I needed to find a way to credit wisteria, so I tried being creative by implementing the transition from persona 5 the anime and mixing it with logo transition of the game

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@oblique juniper like this?

oblique juniper
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yeah that works !!

supple moat
kindred comet
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THIS IS LITERALLY THE GREATEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED

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TYSM AGAIN OH MY GOD

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🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

cyan needle
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The pupils on here eyes and then BAM

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Done

kindred comet
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awesome!!!! tysm again like i genuinely cant state how grateful i am 🥹

kindred comet
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@cyan needle made some adjustments/edits, mainly just color correction and rain for the dancing scene as well as masking out the kasumi edits and placing them over the ps4 op whenever i could

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btw lmk when you're done with the adjustments, i can easily swap out the footage i used for a newer version so it wont be any trouble risepray

cyan needle
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Bless your soul

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I'll do it in like 10 minutes

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You made my life alot easier

kindred comet
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awesome, tysm!!

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kindred comet
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itll be available next update

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oh thank you!

cyan needle
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@kindred comet OK ITS DONE

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I may eventually go back to it and reanimate kasumis hair at the very end of the skating segment so that it looks cooler

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But otherwise

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We are finished

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Ima send you the Google drive link

kindred comet
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awesome!! im currently just doing some masking rn so im happy to see it!!

cyan needle
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It's gonna take like 5 minutes for me to send it to you cause no wifi

kindred comet
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its okay!! tyt!!

cyan needle
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Btw is there anything else you need help with in terms of animation or art?

wicked briar
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Can you replace Joker with Kasumi in every anime cutscene? lol. Kidding. 🙂

cyan needle
kindred comet
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actually there are a few images i havent replaced, feel free to tackle them if you want MayaNod

wicked briar
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I wish there was something we could do about those anime cutscenes, but I wouldn't expect less then a whole team to do that much work. lol 🙂

kindred comet
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i think the most that can be done are VN cutscenes like in p3p, but im not interested in messing with the 2d cutscenes rn

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for a story overhaul maybe but it would probably done VN style

willow prairie
kindred comet
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that would take a very long time and wouldnt be really worth it if there wasnt a story overhaul to go with it

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not to mention thats a giant workload for a free project

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and p4/p5 cutscenes are much more detailed than p3's

ionic fulcrum
kindred comet
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yeah or my own if i end up doing it

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point is, let's not get ahead of ourselves

willow prairie
ionic fulcrum
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How would yours differ from theirs if you have any idea?

kindred comet
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theirs isnt out yet and idk the specifics of rose and violet but the big difference would be joker would still be around

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thats kinda it for now

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i havent really had a chance to develop the idea any further

kindred comet
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tysm!!

willow prairie
ionic fulcrum
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Yeah, Rose and Violet uses that as a base

cyan needle
kindred comet
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omg i love it!!!

cyan needle
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she's so adorable

kindred comet
cyan needle
rain tangle
# cyan needle

She could've died, yet she's out here giving off a silly little smile as always. It's giving Kotone so much lol

cyan needle
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She's a marshmallow

kindred comet
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LOVE THESE SO MUCH OH MY GODD THANK U

ionic fulcrum
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I think the smile is a bit too small imho

cyan needle
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Joker is the type of guy who thinks he's cool but is actually loser so of course he'd be grinning like that

kindred comet
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i like it being small like that

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it fits her a lot

cyan needle
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The humble kasumi is just glad to be alive

ionic fulcrum
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If that’s the case, I don’t think she would be doing the double peace sign like that

cyan needle
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For the joker being dead one, ybh i dunno what much I can change since the hair kinda covers up any significant details

ionic fulcrum
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Maybe a simple hands in lap with the smile?

cyan needle
ionic fulcrum
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Ah ok

kindred comet
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since i have joker brainrot and can tell its his hair shape rn

cyan needle
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mmkay

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aside from that any other art?

kindred comet
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i think that should be it!

cyan needle
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lemme finish that up

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btw

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@kindred comet once you add the fixed eye segment can you send me the google drive link of it completed?

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I have one last surprise for ya

kindred comet
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yea! im tweaking some things rn but it should be rendered in a sec

rain tangle
# cyan needle I have one last surprise for ya

is that a reference to hit game Persona 5, released in 2016 by Atlus and specifically the song Last Surprise which plays during in-game battles and other various fighting moments!!1 🤯

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(very corny joke I know, I couldn't help it MonaConcern)

kindred comet
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@cyan needle sent it, check your gmail! risepray

magic gyro
# kindred comet tweaked a few things

cool, sry i was working yesterday and had no time to see the discord.

just noticed the little edit you mentioned on the mask and the sword handle (didn't see if you changed something else) very cool, happy you like the idea

oblique juniper
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thats the only reason why its in scope to reanimate cutscenes maaan

covert obsidian
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@kindred comet idk if this has anything to do with the mod, but in 9/23, when i visit the maid cafe for an event that unlocks an achievement the game gets stuck in an loading screen loop, first time this happens, but deactivating the mod+mods related to kasumi as prog makes the event happen normally

covert obsidian
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The event is suppose to give you this achievement

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(idk why i tag it as spoiler lol)

kindred comet
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seems to work fine for me

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i also completely forgot this exists

covert obsidian
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i see

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then idk what triggers this loading loop

kindred comet
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??

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well

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trying to make infiltration tools in class just crashed my game

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doubt its related to this mod though

urban anvil
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the maid cafe is completely broken

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for me

kindred comet
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i never touched the maid cafe

urban anvil
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Not like i'd use it anyway

covert obsidian
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same, im just aiming for every achievement for the sake of testing, just gotta turn off mods for the maid cafe achievement then once you are out turn on mods again

kindred comet
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yeah its working fine for me so im not sure what would be causing it

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whats your modlist?

covert obsidian
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is there anythin off?

kindred comet
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try disabling she/her joker and checking again

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if its not that it could just be a bf/bmd emulator bug

covert obsidian
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oks give me a few minutes

kindred comet
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okay updated bf emulator and its not an issue with that femcthink

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yeah its a bug with she/her joker

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just checked and it happens due to that mod

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im not sure why its happening but try reporting it to the dev if you can!

covert obsidian
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just reported it

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hopefully is nothing srs THertaFallen

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stoopid maids

kindred comet
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new SMS chat message art!! thank you so much to @calm compass

kindred comet
rapid pine
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Yessssss

alpine crypt
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great job

dry igloo
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Oh my that's amazing

gray slate
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will joker be a romance option with this mod?? 🗿

kindred comet
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at the moment no

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this mod is visual only and doesn't really contain any story or dialogue edits

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except for the bathhouse stuff

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if i do go through with making a story overhaul though i'll consider it

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your best bet for romances rn is either using gay joker or looking into rose & violet story overhaul

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although i dont think that has romances in it

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or using femc mod for the romances

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adding romances is a lot of work though so i wouldnt count on it being in rose & violet yet

zealous fjord
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Yeah, no new romances in my mod, at least for now

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If I were to use the Gay Joker mod, I would need the authors permission for it since I would rewrite the dialogues (and technically, it's no longer gay joker, so it's a departure from the original intent of the modders). It's a lot of work anyway, so I'm not focusing on that for now

gray slate
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aw ok! np np

kindred comet
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huh

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yeah

kindred comet
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@cyan needle

wicked briar
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Oooo, when we gonna get a test build with that? 🙂

kindred comet
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Next build will have it

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No release date on it yet but it'll likely be one of the final (if not the final) builds before release 1.0

junior stream
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looking back on how long ago you guys started this project the amazing progress is so inspirational

kindred comet
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tysm!!!

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I'm really surprised as well

cyan needle
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YYOOOOO

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That's so sick wtf

junior stream
# kindred comet tysm!!!

No thank you you all have done so much to make this dream a reality and the history of this chat is proof to just how hard you all have worked You guys are the greatest

kindred comet
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All the credit goes to you!! You KILLED it with the opening I'm so thankful you made it risepray risepray

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Sumire mode is real

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i do have to replace the anims but i'll do that later

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poor morgana...

wicked briar
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That's so cool. 🙂 Love the long hair. 🙂

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And the glasses. ❤️

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I wanna play Sumire mode so badly. ❤️

kindred comet
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Finally got around to adding this, they look great tysm! They'll be a config option in the addon mod since I don't want the main mod to have too many config options

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well thats an interesting bug

kindred comet
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Not sure if I already showed this off, but I gave the White Leotard costume an alt color scheme that makes it fully white. Also both versions have a gold sword True

velvet kite
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Been keeping up with the channel a bit more frequently than I used to and it's insanely awesome to see all the work and passion everyone's putting into this

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rapid pine
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Actually it's from her concept art

open gull
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Oh, I meant the second image had a costume entry titled "Phantom X" which caught my eye.

rapid pine
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Ohhhh

covert obsidian
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zealous fjord
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Speaking of maid café, I've swapped the "clench fist" animation for gaining points with the one used when playing video games

zealous fjord
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I've also swapped and re-positioned one of the 2 sitting anim when meditating at the temple (it was still using Joker's)

kindred comet
zealous fjord
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Sure, I'll try swapping the other animations in there where Joker turns a bit around

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Oooh, it's possible it's sharing those with the crafting... I'll try it too before sending the fix

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Nvm, crafting is AE0001_751. The burger are AE0001_761

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Works nicely

mental shard
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@kindred comet Hi! Just wanted to ask because I got curious, since you are reanimating the opening using the PS4 USM, did you extract it in the best possible way? because it can be turned to MP4 for editing without a quality loss

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Oh wait, i think another person was working on the animation right?

magic gyro
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yeah is @cyan needle who is making the opening

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and is damn good

mental shard
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Yeah! That's why it will be a shame if there is a quality loss so I want to help if possible, I already have a script that extract USMs without a quality loss from the PS4 version

cyan needle
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Wisteria cropped the animations i made and imported it into the original opening for better quality

mental shard
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Or did @kindred comet source them?

kindred comet
cyan needle
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I also made this peak of art

mental shard
kindred comet
cyan needle
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Animating and drawing on a phone is

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An experience

mental shard
magic gyro
kindred comet
cyan needle
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Btw

kindred comet
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any further quality gains would be placebo

cyan needle
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Wisteria

kindred comet
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hii

cyan needle
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Anyway we can use the original audio i mixed?

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That changes the ending verse

kindred comet
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we could but it was kinda low quality and the original one ended up working perfectly

mental shard
kindred comet
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for now i'd like to avoid any further changes unless its something super serious

kindred comet
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i am very confident in my usm though

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some parts are kinda low quality, mainly 2 with sumi, but i was just too lazy to mask those

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either way its not very noticeable thankfully

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i did compare it to the ps4reverts one ingame and it looked pretty much 1:1

mental shard
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Is it encrypted?

kindred comet
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yeah, this one isnt though

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this is before i encrypted it

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i can send the encrypted one if you want though

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its the same usm just... encrypted

mental shard
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No it doesn't matter, I can view it, just asked to use the correct USM viewer to see it

kindred comet
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ah alr

mental shard
kindred comet
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thanks!

kindred comet
rain tangle
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Not sure if you guys missed this or not, but right after fighting ||Maruki||, a little scene plays out of him accepting defeat. During this scene, the protag walks up to take his treasure and it uses a Joker anim when they grab his treasure. This is after his 2nd phase, still in his palace before escaping just to make things clear.

kindred comet
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noted, ty!

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i'll have to stitch together a custom anim for it

rain tangle
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Alrighty! Jokers anim carries over into the idle animation up until he takes it back outside the palace too.

rain tangle
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The animation for giving Sojiro flowers on 3/14 uses a Joker anim as well

vagrant sky
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You can give Sojiro flowers on White day? huh

rain tangle
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Yeah lol

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Pretty sure it's for not romancing anyone since I didn't do that this playthrough

vagrant sky
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ah gotcha I was assuming that, but for some reason in my head I juat thought White Day was skipped lol... never done a romanceless playthrough 😅

wicked briar
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Hey, real quick thing I'm curious about. The main menu, would it be possible to replace the Joker on there with Kasumi? I dunno how the menu works so probably not, but I could help but at least want to ask. 🙂

kindred comet
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its complicated, maybe

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Croissant Guard said they'll look into it later though

wicked briar
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Okay. 🙂

dense prawn
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The non-romantic valentines and white day events are the best ones femc

vagrant sky
wicked briar
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Has anyone seen what the dating EVERYONE valentine's day scene looks like with Kasumi? 😄

zealous fjord
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An issue with the position of the sitting animation in this event. Unfortunately, it uses BE0001_001 and AE0001_002, both have generic sitting animation with the proper position. I've fixed it with event editing. Before/After:

wicked briar
# zealous fjord

She's sinking back into the cushions like Homer Simpson sinking into the hedges. lol

astral chasm
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noticing the difference in the briefcases they carry, would it be possible to make Kasumi's briefcase black like Sumire's? just out of curiosity

wicked briar
astral chasm
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as I said, just for curiosity 😊

kindred comet
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it would be possible but it would be a pretty big hassle

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also sumire's bag is black because thats her shujin bag

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joker has both a shujin bag and a casual brown bag

willow prairie
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ayo @kindred comet, is the sumire version ready to be tested?

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please, i'd like to try it out

kindred comet
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no, please be patient! it'll be in the next test build

willow prairie
wicked briar
kindred comet
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tried changing the title screen model and ended up with a monster

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jumpscare

magic gyro
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holy

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a dinosaur

kindred comet
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what is going on there

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I have...no idea

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I was using the joker over Kasumi mod and found that

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Jumpscare of a life

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Might play with my mods to see the problem

kindred comet
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Ah I see thank you

kindred comet
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but i really wouldnt recommend playing with that mod anyway

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Oh alright

kindred comet
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its not intended to be used rn

deep stirrup
lilac needle
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why the long face

zealous fjord
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Fixed the protag position with event editing in Maruki's ending. Before/after:

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The camera's still a bit high at the the last closeup on the protag's face. I haven't managed to fix it.
I don't want to spend too much time on that scene for obvious reasons 👀

deep stirrup
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I wonder if there is something similar to the gay joker mod that would fit the game or if gay joker is the best possible

kindred comet
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it's possible just a lot of work and outside the scope of our mods atp

kindred comet
kindred comet
vagrant sky
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lol is the dialogue still about fogged up glasses? 😂

kindred comet
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yea! i think zyvlos already addressed that in their story overhaul though risepray

vagrant sky
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cool thanks! Looks amazing!

covert obsidian
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Where can i see more of this person artwork? looks super natural ! KasumiCheer

covert obsidian
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Very curious to see !

calm compass
# covert obsidian Where can i see more of this person artwork? looks super natural ! <:KasumiCheer...

Hi, I'm MyTamagos! I tried to match the original style as closely as possible, my personal style is completely different, more stylized and realistic. I enjoy experimenting with various approaches depending on the project! If anyone is interested in seeing some of my work, you can find socials in my profile bio, though they are quite different. Thanks!

I must say, the work Wisteria has put into this mod, along with everyone else involved, is incredible! The dedication and effort behind it are truly inspiring. It’s amazing to see how much this project has grown! 🧡

covert obsidian
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Looking cool !

eternal cypress
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Can't wait for this to be completed, i would love to replay P5R someday with this mod :D

deep stirrup
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I give up

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So what persona's give the ultimate weapons for kasumi?

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or is paradise model mr the ultimate weapon?

urban anvil
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same as jokers i would guess

kindred comet
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i think i forgot to replace tyrant pistol though

deep stirrup
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Yeah I have sword of Sinai 2 and paradise lost Mr

kindred comet
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im not sure then, another mod might be overwriting it but idk

deep stirrup
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Maybe

kindred comet
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for posterity changing h_M_HR1 bone keyframes from y 180 or whatever to 0 usually fixes the phone rotation

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and vice versa id imagine (0 to 180)

kindred comet
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the arm looks kinda cursed, think the arm twist weights might be cursed on this model

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not really a big deal though

zealous fjord
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If you're editing the animations for laying in bed, you might want to check if the edits I made to 2 events in the prologue are holding up

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It was those 2

wraith juniperBOT
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Here's a fix for the two one in bed. The camera might need to be adjusted again if you edit the bed animations, but it shouldn't be too hard

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kindred comet
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lets hope they dont use the same gap

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oh it totally does

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😭😭

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okay i think you just need to edit the rotation in the evts @zealous fjord

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like that should be it, the camera seems fine

zealous fjord
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Yeah, it's a just matter of rotating it. I'll take a look at it this week

kindred comet
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awesome, ty!

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now for the hard stuff

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those annoying crafting anims mayastare

covert obsidian
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rip gremlin sumi craft animation

kindred comet
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eto blehhhh

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:P

kindred comet
kindred comet
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computer time True

kindred comet
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i cant really do much about her floating forward a bit or sitting on the very edge of the chair for now

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since im not sure what anims its using for those (and it would probably be better to just edit the evt or something i guess?)

rain tangle
kindred comet
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since always apparently, its just usually covered up by the blanket

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unless its summer

rain tangle
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ah

kindred comet
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oh this is definitely going to be a pain

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I FORGOT SHE JUST EATS THE ENTIRE THING IN LIKE 2 SECONDS IF UVE ALREADY GOT THE CAPTAIN RANK LMAOOOOOO

kindred comet
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okay actually it wasnt that big of a pain, there's only like 2 animations here the others already got replaced thankfully

serene scroll
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hi, hi! i was curious on how far along this mod was, since i wanted to play with it but didn't know how long it would take for the 1.0 release.

i don't mean this as a way to rush you or anything, just wanted to know how much longer roughly itd take, and if it's already in a playable without any major bugs (as in, if the only issues are animation offsets/similar stuff) state so i can play with it.
i loved the idea when i saw it and i can tell it already looks great even if it's not fully finished right now.

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since it's just a visual replacement, i assume the only things are animations glitches, but just wanted to be sure, lol.

open gull
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From my experience, it should be fully playable as is.

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The only real issue I had was the aoa tutorial softlock as a result of changing the default Persona's skillset, but Wisty made a workaround for it in the mod.

serene scroll
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ah, alright!

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thank you!!

open gull
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All good!

kindred comet
kindred comet
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im currently just fixing up some animations and waiting on some other assets then it should be good to go

serene scroll
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i see! thank you for answering!!

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looking forward to it!

kindred comet
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of course!!

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i'll try and adjust her arms a bit so theyre closer to the burger, will do that later though

indigo crane
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Everytime i check on this mod im amazed at how much effort you put into it and how far it came

halcyon ether
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Man tho....even if that thing is huge, I kind of wanna eat that borgor....

kindred comet
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the burger does kinda snap to her helper bone h_M_HL1 (151) so ill try adjusting the position in the evt or the burger's animations

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will do that later though

cyan needle
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@kindred comet Nothing really crazy but here you go

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Majority of the head is just black so I touched up the hair to resemble kasumi a bit and added her bow tie

kindred comet
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pretty much exactly what i was looking for

oblique juniper
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waaah i really wanna help w assets in this mod but my hands are incredibly full w other projects 😭 maybe one day..

covert obsidian
thick shard
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While Playing the Mod, I noticed that her character is positioned really low during the Deadline ending and she still uses Jokers voice. Just thought I would point this out in case you guys missed something. Hope this helps!

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Sorry for the really bad audio and quality, I needed to find a way to upload this without Nitro.

sacred sable
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if you're on windows, try windows + g for the built in recording program

thick shard
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I used a mobile device to record because it would use the least amount of Megabytes and it would give me the ability to upload because I am not paying for Nitro

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That being said, I'm really looking forward to this mod!

kindred comet
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she fuckin that shit up!!!

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Let's go Sumi!

thick shard
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In the meantime, I will look for other things that you potentially missed and point them out, I want to help out too. That being said I am attending school so it could slow down what I find

kindred comet
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blendertools keeps messing up the anim rotation on export

open gull
ionic fulcrum
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Would be funny if this was modified so that no matter what social stats you had, you could eat this

kindred comet
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tweaked it a bit so her eyes are closed now (cant really do much about the blinking unfortunately, oh well!)

cyan needle
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Today i learned kasumi is awful at baseball

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zealous fjord
# kindred comet awesome, ty!

Fixed the two events, but I needed to adjust the camera too since there was a bit of clipping with her head apparently. I also adjusted the rotation so her fingers no longer clip with phone (well, just a little bit, but that's very annoying to fix)

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However, 106_001 uses another GAP (AE0001_106.GAP) with exactly the same animations as AE0001_603.GAP, so i replaced the animations in there too

kindred comet
thick shard
covert obsidian
vagrant sky
# covert obsidian

She's just admiring her hard work cleaning the counter top last night! KasumiYay

covert obsidian
vagrant sky
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"Wow, I've never seen this bar so spotless before!"

covert obsidian
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good job good job !

kindred comet
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theres one where shes holding something as well but idk where thats used

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found another event you might wanna look into fixing @zealous fjord , it uses the shared sitting gap so there isnt much that can be done anim wise

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its E712_060.EVT

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i dont remember if you did the mishima one or not yet but if you did you can probably just move her by the same offset

kindred comet
thick shard
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Every new animation brings this mod one step closer to completion!

kindred comet
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this game has so many one off animations it's kind of insane

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I always find new ones

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really makes me appreciate the work they put into this game, especially since reload avoids one off animations

thick shard
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I will look for more Animations you might have missed, oh and no need to credit me, I just want to help

zealous fjord
thick shard
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I forgot to take a screenshot or record it but in the Vanilla Final Boss, Kasumi has a 50% chance to show either Jokers model or become a distorted Giraffe when she does the finishing blow on Yaldabaoth.

kindred comet
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use custom bonus tweaks

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and make sure your protag sumi build is the latest test build

thick shard
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I am actually using the Test build. no biggie, I just think it's funny

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I did save the file to my Drive just in case I wanted to download the mod on another device of mine, I didn't share with anybody else, It's just there because it's painful to look for it here when it's buried in the messages.

kindred comet
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it's in pins

urban anvil
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(bad idea)

rapid pine
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I love that actually

lilac needle
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Same

urban anvil
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her mask is so inconvenient because its so flat

rapid pine
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I think it's funny that hers obscures her face the most. Hides her mouth too unless you have a lower view

thick shard
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Honestly it's a cool idea to have her mask when loading Thieves Den.

thick shard
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I don't have any evidence but unfortunately, while playing in Maruki's palace, whenever I exited the palace, the game just suddenly crashes.

urban anvil
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mostly because i had to do the entire palace again

kindred comet
urban anvil
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i have no clue on how to put it IN the game tho

kindred comet
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send it to me and i'll try and figure it out

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although admittedly i have no idea where the texture is used

urban anvil
kindred comet
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ty!

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another sms art from the amazing @calm compass 💜

kindred comet
urban anvil
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This is awesome

vagrant sky
thick shard
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Ok, this one I forgot to screenshot, but in Akechi's Pool game social link and in the Pool game in general, Kasumi clips through the table.

kindred comet
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oh yeah the pool anims

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yeah i wont be fixing those

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out of my skill level tbh, and i would probably have to deal with props

thick shard
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All good

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Just looking for animations potentially missed and thought I would point them out

deep stirrup
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So I got something fummy to report

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we got a naked akechi running around in the jazz club

kindred comet
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i thought i fixed that MAD

deep stirrup
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His will for nudity is too strong

covert obsidian
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Naked and saying that....

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Aggressively naked

deep stirrup
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I am both horrified and aroused

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horroused

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next dialogue goes back to clothed

kindred comet
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okay should be fixed now

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or well

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in the next build

deep stirrup
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Lmao, can't wait🥰

thick shard
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While playing the very first introduction of the game, Kasumi still uses Joker animations and clips through while cleaning.

kindred comet
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funny you mention it, i think i just fixed that an hour ago

thick shard
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Glad I pointed it out!

rain tangle
urban anvil
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what if his name was freakechi and absolutely nothing changed

kindred comet
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just did a whle lot of animations for eating curry/drinking coffee

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took forever but they turned out pretty alright naocry

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literally only possible bcs of animaide since i can just paste her sitting pose and itll apply it to all keyframes while keeping their transforms

kindred comet
open gull
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Nicely done!

covert obsidian
half scaffold
rain tangle
covert obsidian
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I actually dont remember either, if it isnt then Wisteria did a very cute job

cyan needle
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What will you do with the faith arcana

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Confidant

covert obsidian
wicked briar
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My fiance found a messed up animation today. In the strength arcana with caroline and justine, when we go to the gym and Kasumi is supposed to be lifting the weights, she's not actually doing so, they're lifting on their own.

kindred comet
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does she do the animation and do they float or does she just stand there and they float

tiny storm
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that's cute

thick shard
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We're so close! My guess is the mod is 94% complete

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One thing that is hard to notice, if you get the bad ending in the 3rd semester, the group picture on the phone has Joker, it's hard to spot but it's noticeable

kindred comet
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i forgot that cutscene even exists

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they didnt put it in the thieves den tsnap

thick shard
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I don't even know why

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It is what it is

open gull
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That doesn't seem hygienic.

kindred comet
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he loves that cat too much to care i fear

kindred comet
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another SMS art by MyTamagos!!

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had to do some minor rewriting to make it make sense ingame but im happy with it

wicked briar
kindred comet
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if it's just floating props then it won't be fixed

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also yeah I have to fix those calling card anims eventually

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wish I could fix the floating props but they're too hard to edit and usually don't export correctly

slow shoal
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This has revitilized my love in a way i didn't think possible

zealous fjord
# zealous fjord In that case, there's probably the Mishima ones, one Ann event, a story event wi...

I've edited the events happening at the dinner to fix the protagonist position and the position of the camera since this wasn't enough to make her visible in some of them.
I've edited the following events:
718_020 -> Mishima rank 2 // With camera editing
718_050 -> Mishima rank 5 // With camera editing
718_070 -> Mishima rank 6.5 // With camera editing
718_090 -> Mishima rank 9 // With camera editing
706_020 -> Ann rank 2
702_060 -> Makoto rank 6 // With camera editing
709_051 -> Futaba rank 5 // With camera editing
712_060 -> Iwai rank 6 // With camera editing
One story event happens at the dinner but doesn't need editing : 210_001

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Before/after for some of them:

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After for Iwai event:

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Here are the events:

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Let me know if you think they need to be tweaked again

thick shard
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Another thing I found is the handshakes with Akechi, Mishima and Maruki are positioned where they don't actually make contact

rain tangle
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Quick question Wisteria! I noticed that protag Sumis gun ammo is still at 8 instead of 10 like hers should be. Is there gonna be a fix later on, or would I need to install anything to fix it?

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Oh and another thing, when using the elevator in Saes palace, the animation for using the keycard to go up doesn't play and instead uses Sumis talking anim. I assume this is on purpose since it isn't a Joker anim, but I thought to point it out just in case.

vagrant sky
rain tangle
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Oh right, forgot about that lol, I used to have it but Wisteria did say it wasn't necessary anymore.

vagrant sky
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ah right yeah if it's not necessary then I don't know about the 10 rounds lol

thick shard
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After more digging, I confirmed that Kasumi's model remains as Joker during the finishing blow with Satanael on Yaldabaoth.

zealous fjord
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Weird, it worked fine for me when I tested it

thick shard
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It is strange honestly, I am not sure why that is. Ah well

short spade
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The model remains as Joker during that scene if you don’t have custom bonus tweaks

thick shard
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Which I do have, I got the evidence of the strangeness

short spade
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is the no-prerendered scenes option enabled for cbt

thick shard
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Yep

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That's why I find it so strange

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I can take a screenshot of the enabled mods and send it to you

short spade
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what does your mod list look like? i think if cbt is loading after this mod it will be overwriting the kasumi fix for this with joker

thick shard
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That could be it. I will try what you suggested

thick shard
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I know this is irrelevant but Kasumi vs Dream would be Hilarious

kindred comet
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so please wait for that, in the meantime you can use equipment and weapons patch though if you want the 10 ammo

kindred comet
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I'll add them when I get on my computer later today

kindred comet
# thick shard

admittedly I have no idea what's going on there but it's probably a mod order thing

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be sure cbt is near the top of your mod list

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but also I should just move the no pre renders stuff into the characters folder

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I think I already did that for the upcoming build thankfully