(P5R PC) Kasumi as Protagonist

[gray slate]

so what should be at the bottom?

persona essentials, custom bonus tweaks, etc?

[astral chasm]

good question, I'd love to know lol I put kasumi protag on #1 bottom always (so it work properly)

[snow aspen]

Why?

[astral chasm]

... idk 😭

[kindred comet]

[rigid quail]

Mostly been lurking but I wanted to say It’s been super great to see this mod grow. I’m particularly excited to the alternative event(s) you plan to implement wisteria - that’s something I always thought would be so cool in a femc oriented persona 5 mod

[open gull]

Oh yeah, here's Ann's P5S portraits. I believe 11.png is her bathhouse portrait.
https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/persona5strikers/sheet/159985/

[kindred comet]

I probably will just use her swimsuit bustups

i'd need to adapt her strikers portraits to fit the royal style and editing bustupparams would cause compatibility issues with bustup mods

[open gull]

Ah alright!

Didn't realise the bustups were different in P5S.

[celest thicket]

Apparently bustup param can be emulated now

or well merged

[kindred comet]

it can?

[wraith juniper]

AnimatedSwine

<@&748707136124485683>
Thanks to @echo thicket Persona Essentials has been updated to add merging to a number of generic binary files. This merging works automatically, just like tbl merging, so mods that did conflict before due to these files should automatically work together now.

Additionally, a bug that caused crashes when using a combination of mods with expanded and normal table files was fixed. If you needed to install "workaround" mods to make P5R work before you shouldn't need them now!

The files that now support merging are listed below:

P3P

• data\facility\combine.bin\ps_model.bin
• data\facility\elvgirl.bin\ps_model.bin
• data\facility\elvgirl_m.bin\ps_model.bin

P4G

• facility\cmbroot\ps_model.bin

P5R

• CALENDAR\CLDWEATHER.BIN
• RESOURCE\RESRCNPCEXIST.BIN
• EVENT\EVTDATEOFFTABLE.BIN
• EVENT\EVTDATETABLE.BIN
• EVENT\EVTDDDECOTABLE.BIN
• EVENT\EVTFADEOUTTABLE.BIN
• INIT\PMCHATINVITE365TBL.DAT
• RESOURCE\RESRCNPCTBL.BIN
• BUSTUP\DATA\BUSTUP_PARAM.DAT
• FONT\ASSIST\MSGASSISTBUSTUPPARAM.DAT
• INIT\SHDPERSONA.PDD
• INIT\SHDPERSONAENEMY.PDD

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[kindred comet]

interesting

i'll keep that in mind, im not good at editing bustups though so i probably wont do it

[celest thicket]

you could just add them in and then work on them later?

it'd only be 1 event so I don't think it would be too jarring

[kindred comet]

i'd have to edit the bustup params twice which isnt something i'd like to do

one time for the strikers versions and a potential 2nd time for the royal style

either way its more important to me to keep the p5r style instead of randomly swapping to the vanilla one

and the swimsuit bustup looks good enough for now

[astral chasm]

guys, I know this isn't the point, but I always thought that in the All-Out Attack image, she had a heart on her face like this... I was sad when I realized it wasn’t.

[celest thicket]

you could make it a mod

[astral chasm]

wish I knew how to mod the game, I'd mod the heck out of it 🥺

[celest thicket]

Pretty sure there are guides that exist. And editing the AoA image is pretty easy in comparison to the rest of p5 modding.

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1062325318083428363 this has some good resources to start looking into it.

[astral chasm]

I'll take a look at it rn, thank you so much!! if I get to mod something, you'll be the one i'll be thanking ✨

[celest thicket]

yeah it's np. If you have really any questions you can ask me. Either through DMs or whatever really.

gb also should have some tutorials aswell. Any texture editing tutorial should be applicable. You just would have to modify it based on where the AoAs are in the files (which should be BASE.CPK\BATTLE\GUI iirc)

[kindred comet]

repositioned sumi during her awakening so she's in-frame, gonna edit the blend anims now

wish blendertoolsforgfs had them rotated correctly

[split pine]

I actually made a model a couple months ago for the sister for the awakening scene, you'd have to replace the face and hair, but it has the extra bones for the sweat on the face

[open gull]

My favourite part about Sumi being shorter than Joker is that when you pick a lock with Ryuji present, instead of patting her on the shoulder, Ryuji gives her a headpat.

[cyan sun]

I don’t think i ever noticed that

[kindred comet]

awesome, I'll try putting it in the mod soon!

[zealous fjord]

Would you be okay if I add it to my mod? I would also like to edit the year pin to be "2" and the mesh for the white of her eye (it's too flat on Kasumi model, so the iris may clip into it in some cases). I'll give you credit of course

[split pine]

Yeah, I wouldn't upload it if I didn't want people to use it

[kindred comet]

working on a smaller side mod, not sure how far ill go with it

[open gull]

Funny you should mention it; there actually is already a bit of work on swapping Violet with Joker. (notably by @dry igloo, who started the https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1317709988390506497 thread, and myself, who started doing it separately before I saw that thread)

[kindred comet]

oh nice

if they're interested I wouldn't mind merging mods or contributing

[open gull]

Here's the wip I threw together, but with Otaco's animations.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yt4xcnk6Pdt_2KOhMQjm0vYe5_q6_ZtW/view?usp=sharing
Changes:

• Metaverse models (including CF costumes from CBT)
• Battle anims (including victory anims by Otaco)
• Cutins
• AoA finishing touch (The BKSK_HERO.BCD from the Kasumi mod had to be edited for this to work, which Otaco pointed out to me)
• Palace field animations (safe room anims are untouched, at least by me)
• Most battle voice clips (uses Joker's added voice clips from CBT, as well as status effect + low health lines from Tactica)
• Gun SFX (Makoto's reload clip and a few menu SFX are affected as a side effect)
• Showtime animations (using an edited version of the BB0001_051.GAP from Wisty's test build)
• Melee attack timing for Violet and Joker (using the VISUAL.TBL from the Kasumi test build)
• Arsene and Raoul over Cendrillon and Ella (ultimate + third tier personas are untested)
• Persona affinities and skills for Violet and Joker (requires a new save for Joker to have his correct skills. Alternatively you can use the debug menu to change them manually)
• Ren's name appears on the equip menu (thx Otaco!)
• Futaba's nav lines for Joker and Violet are swapped. (Note: requires CBT. some lines like the game over lines still refer to the protag as Joker.)

[kindred comet]

very cool

are all the models replaced as well?

I'm lazy

[open gull]

All the metaverse models, yes.

[kindred comet]

I've only replaced the phantom suit and summer unform

nice

[open gull]

Otaco also added victory animations for Joker.

[kindred comet]

are they from p5x?

honestly I might just keep the Sumi one where he's right up close to the camera

I think it's funny

hes such a diva

ive been meaning to ask you @short spade , do you still have the model/anims for this? and if not how were you able to do this?

last I checked I don't think it was in your repo

[open gull]

I'm not sure. The close up anim is Joker dropping from above and landing on the ground like Spiderman and the other victory anim has him do like a hair flip and twirl his dagger.

The test build I posted above does have a few issues:

• The Protect anim and Harison recovery anim aren't replaced properly.
• Joker's zipline appears on Violet's arm during the Showtime attack. Additionally, Violet holds Joker's gun during the last part of the Showtime.
• Event anims, including the Metaverse ones, aren't replaced. The safe room anims aren't replaced either, though Joker does T pose magnificently.

His weapon models also look weird but judging by the video you posted, you seem to have that covered.

[dry igloo]

No, the animations were not from p5x

I just modify the solo victory animation and the tackdown animation, cause I suck at extracting psx

[short spade]

oh i'm not sure i still have this since it was just an experiment and turned out pretty bad - i think i just scaled up her menu model in blender to match joker's and then parented it to his armature to see how it would look

and copied the weights from joker too i believe

[snow aspen]

Don’t forget the hyphen between spider and man

[kindred comet]

ooh interesting, it looks really nice

[kindred comet]

oh okay nw then! I'll deal with that model at some point

[kindred comet]

https://youtu.be/lRAq6GS9A1Y

[reef musk]

Absolutely incredible work to both of you

[astral chasm]

amazing!!! I'm so ready to play it all together

[gray slate]

pog!!!

[arctic totem]

I wonder how they're gonna handle Sumire's backstory once we get to Maruki's palace, since she sees us (Kasumi)

[bronze depot]

||her twin survived but got amnesia||

[arctic totem]

Ah alright, that clears it up, thanks 👍

[gray slate]

is there enough progress on the story overhaul mod and/or the joker as party member to combine it with this one?

[cyan sun]

Zylvos’s story overhaul mod isn’t out yet

[kindred comet]

by the way would it be possible to make a clean visual tbl without the edits for protag sumi included

im probably going to adjust the visual.tbl at some point in protag sumi to fix the critical melee camera

and there's no need to include my visual tbl since tbl merging is a thing

if not then i can probably do it myself im just lazy

[kindred comet]

camera being wrong was bugging me so much so here's a fix for it

[vagrant sky]

Wait is that demon on the right part of the original game or is it like a mod? I literally cannot remember that one looks sick

[kindred comet]

old one for comparison

[kindred comet]

yeah its part of the vanilla game

[kindred comet]

the gun still fires early, idk how to fix that 🫠

[vagrant sky]

ah cool don't know why it looks so weird to me lol I 100% the compendium. Guess I just never looked that closely at some of them

[cyan sun]

Power? I think its called

[kindred comet]

just took a look at this, looks good but im not sure why all of the joker assets are in p5ressentials

it would be much better to shove them in sumire's character folder

the tposerrr

[vagrant sky]

ah yeah that makes it more familiar to me

[kindred comet]

im probably gonna just merge this one with mine if thats okay

and im also gonna change his name bcs i hate ren

akira 4 life

??

i think you used the test weapon models

also note to self to add a mask material anim to the victory animation

other than that everything looks nice

good job :)

[kindred comet]

by the way @open gull could you separate the unit and persona tbl edits into versions with only the joker party member edits?

i already did visual and name tbl so dw abt that

im going to make unit and persona tbl config options

i might do the same for the main mod idk but the movesets and such would ideally need to be finalized

[kindred comet]

he looks really nice in battles

[open gull]

Sure thing! Didn't realise tbl merging was a thing for Royal.

[halcyon ether]

Oooo, quick question, if you don't mind me asking? (sup, im a lurker-) I know you've been using English audio, but would there be any interference with the jp audio when we use the kasumi mod?

[astral chasm]

The Kasumi voice mod has both English and Japanese versions. For me, there was no interference at all

[halcyon ether]

Thanks for the answer~

[open gull]

You could use this as a starting point if you'd like.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/513154

[open gull]

You mean in Characters/Joker/1? Asking cuz I'm unfamiliar with how CF character folders work, and I'm still figuring out the details.

[kindred comet]

Characters/Sumire/1

characters folder is mainly for full character replacement mods such as joker over kasumi or kasumi over joker, wonder over joker, etc

Characters is just the foldername cf's character system uses
Joker is the character name, change this depending on the character you want to replace (such as Sumire)
1 is the slot number which is used when you configure costume framework and set a character asset slot

outside of that its basically just functions like p5ressentials

ofc for outfits you would just put them in costume framework instead of in Models\Character\0001 or 0010

i do sometimes use p5ressentials but i mainly use it for flowscript merging

since FEmulator bfs dont work in the characters folder

im aware that there is still a cbt.cpk folder in the kasumi as protag mod, its just a leftover from when i used p5ressentials and ill move it over in a sec

[pallid plover]

oh? really?

[kindred comet]

yeah

last time i tried it it just completely broke

think bf emulator wasnt able to find the dummy file or something

since it would keep throwing errors about undeclared procedures

[gray slate]

alright what mods to use for this mod wisteria? i’d like to stream it sometime if that’s ok! bring some attention to it maybe

i’m not famous or anything but maybe a few

[kindred comet]

use any you want! femc mod might be good since it has story edits i think? at least until story overhaul comes out

[kindred comet]

and apparently tbl merging doesnt work in that folder either

just tried it and it was overwriting visual.tbl with the joker over kasumi one

as soon as i moved it to p5ressentials it started to work fine

so just keep that in mind

[gray slate]

so your mod will override the models from the femc mod?

[kindred comet]

it should, but i think you can also just delete all the models from femc mod so you just have the story stuff

[open gull]

Ah good to know, thx!

[kindred comet]

Here's my v0.1 build of joker over kasumi if anyone wants to contribute to it. I haven't replaced the non metaverse models yet (or really added costumes) but I'll do it later at some point.

Notable changes:

• Config menu
• Automatic compatibility with Kasumi as Protagonist (as long as this mod is below it)
• Weapon models are their correct models
• Retargeted all animations from Kasumi
• Moved everything to the characters folder, set Sumire's character asset slot to 1 in the costume framework config

I don't really recommend using this for gameplay purposes yet since it's very unfinished, there shouldn't be any crashes or anything but I haven't replaced the daily life models so it'll just be Kasumi/Sumire stretched to Joker's proportions

Lastly I uploaded it to a github repo for easier contributing if anyone wants to contribute that way https://github.com/WisteriaSp/p5rpc.jokeroversumi

I also have kasumi as protag on github too

oh and also protag sumi compatibility config option includes the showtime anim edits for joker and kasumi to restore their vanilla positions

it has the same issue of the grappling hook and weapons not appearing correctly though

idk if that can be fixed, might be possible but idk how showtimes are handled

[open gull]

Nice! Just checking; does setting/changing Sumire's character asset slot prevent vanilla models from loading? Asking cuz the test build I did only affected the metaverse models, leaving the overworld models untouched.

[stray sigil]

Violet & Rose mod looks awesome! Gonna be adding that to my follows

[kindred comet]

[kindred comet]

I don't think so, it should work like P5REssentials where if you dont replace something itll be loaded like normal

i merged yours with mine anyway and mine has all of sumi's models in it

[stray sigil]

||Now we just need a mod that changes Morgana's name to Morcatna||

[kindred comet]

also i forgor to update the battle gap thats used if you dont have protag sumi on :P

[open gull]

Oh yeah, did some testing, and I think changing the character asset slot does mess with vanilla models. Forgot to get a screenshot, but basically Sumi's model is stretched to fit Joker's proportions, and she gets a floating head. I moved the character assets back to P5REssentials for my personal build just so vanilla Sumi's models load normally, but I just thought I should make note of that.

[kindred comet]

it doesnt

i retargeted all of her animations to joker

they will do that regardless of whether or not you have them in characters or p5ressentials

[open gull]

Ah alr, that explains the floating head.

[kindred comet]

i mentioned the stretching here too

itll be fixed once all of her models are replaced with joker ones

which is something i'll do... eventually

[open gull]

Ah alr.

Also, I just remembered that the costumes folder in the test build I posted also includes the scooby doo and halloween costumes, which you might wanna take out for the actual release.

[kindred comet]

i dont see them in here

i think you mightve already taken them out before sending it over

[open gull]

Ah right I did. I'm a scatterbrain.

[kindred comet]

begging for a file emulator ast libraries update......

[open gull]

Re-added Joker's vanilla costumes using Costume Framework. I used the file structure from CBT as a reference.

[kindred comet]

Nice! Great work

[open gull]

Thx!

[kindred comet]

starting work on the akechi rank 6 event

this one will be a little annoying to do but it'll be good to get it out of the way

[open gull]

Ah! Relocating to Kichijoji. That makes sense.

[kindred comet]

Yea! I'm probably gonna have it at the jazz club since that one seems simple to work with

[open gull]

Fixed a typo in the configs which seemingly prevented the costumes from appearing in the menu.

[kindred comet]

Oh nice! You used the black leotard folder too

I wanted to do that but forgor

by the way, most of the costume descriptions still use their joker protag counterparts which use [fname] and [lname]

if you could edit them that would be great, this is the wording i chose for the prison outfit

[zealous fjord]

I've found a bunch of events that still use Joker's anims in AE0001_002. I can't replace them myself because she would need to be repositionned.
Those animations are used in 510_040, 715_020 (Ohya confidant events in general), when eating at Leblanc, etc.

[kindred comet]

eating animations

i think kasumi has some but there's a high chance the item bone is rotated weirdly

[zealous fjord]

I mean, there's no eating animation in there

[kindred comet]

is it just sitting animations?

[zealous fjord]

I should have said : she finished eating, she's receiving a text

Yeah

[kindred comet]

oh then thats easy

[kindred comet]

honestly repositioning them is really easy, you just need blender and then you need to import the animation with blendertoolsforgfs

edit the animation, move the root bone to the desired position, save and done

i ususally use joker with the original unmodified as a reference point

[zealous fjord]

I'll give it a try then

[kindred comet]

i'll make a quick recording

but basically you just wanna copy that gap (so you have a backup just in case)

then replace the anims you want to reposition with her sitting anims

lemme record it really quickj

[zealous fjord]

Alright, thanks

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord

im not sure how much experience you have with blender but the hotkeys i used were:
G - move tool
X/Y/Z - Lock to specific X Y Z axis
Ctrl Tab - Pose mode
Tab (while NLA strip is selected) - Edit NLA action

Make sure this little circle thing at the bottom is blue when animating

Also select another bone just to make sure you're actually editing the action, if you select a bone (or even the root bone) and don't see any keyframes it means you're not editing the action (you must be in pose mode to see the keyframes)

Make sure your transform Euler is set to XYZ, you can find this by pressing N and clicking on the item tab

Also if the root bone has a bunch of keyframes for some reason you can use AnimAide - https://github.com/aresdevo/animaide/releases

It'll add this button which you can use to toggle manipulating multiple keyframes for the selected bones in an action, you shrimply enable it and then pose the bone however you want. The changes should apply across all keyframes

[open gull]

Boop de doop.

[kindred comet]

Whats this?

[open gull]

Oh, that's the costume descriptions.

[kindred comet]

oh you shouldnt need to edit that anymore

costume framework has description msgs for each costume

theyre located in the costume's folder

i can manually add them in though based on that bmd if you want

[zealous fjord]

@kindred comet I'm not very experienced with Blender, but thank you for all the info. I'll try to make it work

[kindred comet]

yw!

[open gull]

Sure! I think most of the outfit descriptions fit as is tho, so it wouldn't be too much work.

I can't remember whether or not the costumes in the Kasumi test build have descriptions tho.

Oh yeah, here are the edited descriptions.

[kindred comet]

nice, thanks!

[open gull]

All good!

[kindred comet]

also if anyones curious this is how i deal with one of the easier "custom" animations

[kindred comet]

the Glare

[kindred comet]

Also this should be fixed now (ignore the Trickster)

[kindred comet]

@open gull replaced the majority of sumi's models and also added the correct descriptions

[open gull]

Oh, those are just the Costume Framework costumes. Sumi's non-metaverse models haven't been touched.

[snow aspen]

That’s a tall man

[zealous fjord]

I've managed to edit them too, thank you very much for all the info! I struggle a bit with the keyframes, they tend to disappear when I select another animation to editFigured it out

Also, I think she's sitting a bit too low on your screenshot. I'm currently ajusting her height here. Sumire is sitting a bit higher on her chair too

It lines up nicely with the chair in crossroads

[snow aspen]

I keep forgetting Sae is there

[zealous fjord]

Also, the phone animation is actually joker's taking out his phone, pausing for a moment, then putting it back in his pocket. Swapping the animation with Sumi's will only replace one part of the whole animationI just saw that's in the second video you made. Well, since you've already made it, you can have my file below if you want to adjust her height

[zealous fjord]

Here's my file:

And the position I've used for the root, if it's useful

[zealous fjord]

That took a while, but I managed to fix all the animations in Maruki's rank 6 by editing the event. The issue was that the animation where she holds her arm is not a idle animation, but a loop on the last frame. The way the animation was set up in the event works for Joker, but not for Sumi. Without this fix, she will return to her regular idle animation.

[vagrant sky]

Based song choice for the tutorial, that's my favorite song in P5R lol

Also thanks for the tutorial, I'd like to get in to blender rigging and animations and stuff too, so this is nice to have!

[kindred comet]

Glad it helps!!

[kindred comet]

Awesome, thanks! And thanks for the other repositioned gap

by the way

what did you edit to make it not loop?

[zealous fjord]

That's a good question. I ended up copy pasting the parameters from a Sumire animation (in rank 7 of her social link) because I haven't been able to figure out exactly how it works

Everything below "AnimationSpeed"

I think Field10 is the animation you want to loop

Field28 is the probably the frame at which point you want to loop? Not a loop here so it's probably the frame at the end of the animation

Field20 is whatever stops the animation from looping. I can't figure out why it's this number

Field1C is also an animation speed parameter

Annnd I'm pretty sure Field18 is important for something, but I'm not sure what

I've looked at another event where the same type of animation freeze is used (E704_010), and it's not done the same at all. I tried using the parameters from this event at first, but it didn't work.

[kindred comet]

interesting

[dense prawn]

I was curious and lurking, so I checked what vanilla (left) vs. your version (right) looks like (ignore the differing outfits). I'm very confused by the vanilla version, because animation 43 doesn't seem to be defined in the GAP that it uses 🥴

[zealous fjord]

Oh, yeah when trying to use the parameters from 704_010, I changed "AnimationMajorId" from "2" to "3" for the protag

And I kept it like that

So it now uses BE0001_003

Which does have that animation

[dense prawn]

Right. I'm just confused how the vanilla animation actually works now, since BE0001_002 doesn't seem to be right for animation 43....

The way it seems to work, though, is that because MAB_ defines two animations where the second is usually the idle animation, it just uses the same animation for both, but then indeed loops on the final frame for the second/"idle" part.

Yours simplifies that by just playing the animation once and then not looping + turning off the second/idle animation part.

(I don't know why they didn't just do that in vanilla....)

[kindred comet]

yeah thats really strange

i did run into this earlier when i was editing the bathhouse activity

joker's social stat anim would freeze about halfway through

i solved it by just using a different animation that looked less awkward but when i checked the evt i had no idea what animation it was even referencing as the gap didnt seem to have it (and evtui just displayed the tpose)

[dense prawn]

Hmmmmmmm.

[kindred comet]

seems like something vanilla overcomplicates for no real reason, im sure it might be useful in some areas but its usage so far seems pretty random and a little pointless

[dense prawn]

Definitely seems like a weird vanilla asset management trick.... Which bathhouse event (ID) did you find that in, for reference?

[kindred comet]

i think it was 761_101

[dense prawn]

Cool, I'll investigate over in the other thread

[kindred comet]

[zealous fjord]

I may be wrong, but I think there's a parameter in there that allows the MAB to use the BE0001_001 animations. I remember editing an event (129_001) that uses BE0001_006 (which doesn't exist) and AE0001_602 (used in the event, but it's not the running/idle animations)

[dense prawn]

It could be that it always combines whichever GAP is defined in the header with BE0001_001, but you may be onto something there.

[dense prawn]

...yeah, E129_001 does it for Ryuji, too... and it's not just MAB_ that has to use those animations (MMD_ does as well), so I'm thinking it's some general asset management shenanigans....

[junior stream]

"Sorry I have a habit of making bad jokes in uh tense situations"

[kindred comet]

i agree

is it now

[celest thicket]

he's just asleep

[kindred comet]

[cyan sun]

I too enjoy the atmosphere when sitting inside of a chair

[zealous fjord]

I fixed the position of the glasses in this event

Live Yukiko reaction:

[kindred comet]

LMAOO

thanks btw! i completely forgot about this one 😅

[short spade]

just mentioning it in case these flew under the radar, AE0001_790 contains joker's cleaning animations that need some skirt physics baked

i attempted these myself a while ago since they weren't overly complicated but it's been so long since i used the plugin

[deft lake]

hi, I saw your twitter post with the mod and you mentioned rose over violet in there. Does that mod have any compatability issues with your kasumi as protagonist one?

[zealous fjord]

Hi! Rose and Violet is meant to be used alongside Wisteria's Kasumi as Protagonist mod, so you won't have to worry about compatibility issues

[deft lake]

ah alright cool

ty very much

[deft lake]

hi, I don't know if I'm blind or something, but is there a download for rose and violet?

also are the various kasumi as protag weapon overhauls and so on necessary or no?

[zealous fjord]

Oh, it's not finished yet. I'm still developing it, but it's like 75% done

[deft lake]

ah gotcha

[zealous fjord]

The protag weapon overhaul won't be necessary. It's for flavor

I'll put a screenshot of my mod load order so people can copy it for their playthrough

[zealous fjord]

A small side effect from editing the coffee cup for Haru's confidant

[kindred comet]

oh

im not fixing that 😁

i wouldnt recommend trying to fix it either

[zealous fjord]

Nah, it's easier than that to fix

[kindred comet]

unless you can get an evt edit to work

that animation is

cursed

the rotation isnt correct in blender

and it just does whatever it feels like i hate it

[zealous fjord]

No, just name the model differently (IT0133_030 instead of IT0133_020)

And change the item id for the protag coffee cup in the Haru event you made it for

[kindred comet]

? why does it have to be renamed

[zealous fjord]

You edit replaces all coffee cup. You made it for the protag, it replaces also Haru's

Or I could just fix Haru's coffee cup by editing the events to add back the old coffee cup

[kindred comet]

thats bcs the cup has anims for both haru and protag in the same gmd

[zealous fjord]

Huh it's possible it's also the coffee cup used elsewhere

[kindred comet]

actually im confused

her cup is fine here

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, i'm confused too

[kindred comet]

it really is cursed

well i guess just stick with the edit you made

better than trying to unravel whatevers going on with it

[zealous fjord]

Now I'm not even sure what's going on

[celest thicket]

whats the item and event? I can take a crack at it

[kindred comet]

IT0133_020

i dont remember/know the events though

idk why the rotation would randomly change

[zealous fjord]

I was looking at 703_100 and 703_101

[celest thicket]

I see, I will check it out.

[kindred comet]

oh i guess thats why

[zealous fjord]

And it does indeed use IT0133_020

[kindred comet]

i forgot it had an additional animation

well i dont feel like messing with this at all so just go with the fix you have

i never want to see this stupid cup ever again

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, that cup is weird. Replacing animation 1 and 2 does nothing

Since Haru's using animation 1 and it's symetrical, i'm tempted to just change the rotation of her cup in those 2 events

[kindred comet]

i guess just rename it to IT0133_030 and change protag sumi's to use that one

[zealous fjord]

Well, if the animation is only for one event

It'd probably be best, yeah

[celest thicket]

do you remember what this event is?

[kindred comet]

idr the event id but its one of haru's SL events

[celest thicket]

i see

[kindred comet]

the one with elephant dung tea or coffee

but i think i found the issue

[celest thicket]

what is it

[zealous fjord]

703_040

[celest thicket]

thank you

[kindred comet]

the anim isnt rotated

it probably uses animation 2 for other events

[zealous fjord]

The fix I made and the cup with the name I used

[kindred comet]

nice ty

[celest thicket]

does the kasumi anim itself need any changing?

[zealous fjord]

No, the cup's handle is on the proper side for Sumi protag

[celest thicket]

I mean aesthetically.

[zealous fjord]

Oh

Well, the cup anim is shaking a bit, but it's probably because it's hard to follow the arm animation

[celest thicket]

I will work on it then

[zealous fjord]

Do you want a small vid?

[celest thicket]

sure

[celest thicket]

Alright, I'll work on that then.

[zealous fjord]

Thanks!

[celest thicket]

np

[zealous fjord]

I need to stop editing events now. I still haven't started Yaldabaoth arc, but...
Before/after:

I should probably test with another model, brb

Still clipping, red coats were hiding it

Clipping is unavoidable I'm afraid

Well, at least, it's better than what was before, so you can use it if you want

(I just changed the protag position, not the animation)

[kindred comet]

is that a romance event?

sorry i havent ever like

seen the romance stuff before

i can probably adjust the animation there to get rid of the clipping

what gap does it use

[zealous fjord]

Yes, it's Hifumi's romance (I'm testing events I haven't tested yet)

The gap is AE0001_717

Their arms clip at the end of the animation in my edited event. Hifumi's position is also rotated before she plays her animation

[zealous fjord]

A note of a few animations I've found in Sumire GAP folder, but I'm not good enough with blender to replace some of them myself (yet):
Hand-holding animations: AE0010_706 --> Could be used for the Christmas events?
A "giving something" animation: AE0010_801 --> Could be useful for all kind of purposes
Sleeping/waking up animations while also sitting: AE0010_515 or AE0010_544 --> Could replace the animations in AE0001_761 used when Kawakami wakes up the protag after finishing the coffee/curry.

[kindred comet]

if theyre just sumire animations then you dont need to do anything hard

delete the keyframes for all of the bow bones

insert keyframes for scale, rotation, location, etc by editing it how you usually would and pressing i

insert keyframes for the ponytail as well (and reposition it if needed)

make sure all ponytail/bow bones have keyframes so they dont freeze in place

rinse and repeat for all desired animations

the lack of physics won't be too noticeable

@zealous fjord

i didnt add any keyframes for the ponytail since she already had some

[kindred comet]

what a kind soul

[celest thicket]

pretty rough so far. This animation is a bit tricky so I'm trying stuff. I should hopefully be able to finish it tomorrow.

the main thing is the arm length so im looking at my options for it.

[kindred comet]

wait are you redoing it?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094412112576651314/1328987986121068554/2025-01-14_23-21-31.mp4?ex=67bcc743&is=67bb75c3&hm=8a356b45a7f07624cd4bcd3099c77dbd1eee7114fbde7890589862c52c76aa26&

this is what i was able to get, its not perfect but its better than the joker one

if you want to continue with it feel free but its not necessary

[celest thicket]

yeah

I know, I just want to make a more aesthetically pleasing one like the gaming anims.

[kindred comet]

ah i see, thank you

[celest thicket]

it's np , no shade on your work with this. You did a great job in spite of how annoying this specific anim is.

[kindred comet]

thanks! and yeah idk whats up with it but the gmd rotation and the anim itself is just

[kindred comet]

not sure whats up with bmd emulator but it doesnt seem like i can add new messages with it?

just tried and the game softlocked when the msg was called 🫠

compiled bmd it is i guess

i probably need to adjust the SL point rewards but here it is

also i dont know why her socks are gone at the end

@zealous fjord do her socks occasionally disappear for you

it might be treating them like shoes but idk

[kindred comet]

seems like it was due to the socks mesh being named shoe_0_0010_001

this is actually really useful to know

fixed it and as a bonus gave her shoes

[zealous fjord]

Oh, I thought I had fixed this Yeah, it's the material

[kindred comet]

functions just like the vanilla models, shoes will disappear when applicable

weirdly enough its the node, not the material

renaming the node will fix it

[zealous fjord]

Oh, I think I just swapped the material name with the shoe one and it worked

Well, obviously no, didn't work

Thanks, I'll update my model too

[kindred comet]

yeah, annoyingly renaming the mesh in blender wont fix it

youll either have to rename it in gfdstudio or hunt down the node bone

and rename that

i guess thats why i never figured it out initially

[dense prawn]

Oh, it's based on a node, not the mesh...? 🤔 Good to know!

[zealous fjord]

Thanks for the video, I'll take a look a it later.
I'm struggling with editing the keyframes. I'm probably not doing it in the right menus or with the right options, so I think I need to watch some tutorials first. I have no experience with that kind of stuff, soooo

[kindred comet]

yeah im not super sure why but its good to know

[kindred comet]

struggling how so?

to be honest blender really could improve their NLA system, i had absolutely no idea how to even edit an action for the longest while

its just not very intuitive

and the jargon kinda seems like nonsense sometimes

like stashed actions

that means... what exactly?

im sure if i looked it up i could get an answer but its a pretty vague name and if someone just wants to edit an action its uh

not very descriptive

also the mask should be fixed now

[zealous fjord]

I'm just about to go to work, but if I had to summarize it :
In the animation menu, I don't know how to move keyframes or remove them in the timeline (I wanted to shorten an animation, but it's actually not a good idea now that I think about it)
I also have the issue of clicking somewhere, the keyframe are no longer showed and I can't get them to show up again (even when backtracking). I didn't nuke them, they're just not showing anymore. I'm probably stupid and it's a bit hard to explain

[kindred comet]

its because you clicked off the stashed action

ideally you want to just

head to the animation tab

press tab on the action you want to edit

then swap back to a different tab

if the action is green it means youre editing it

if its green and you see no keyframes its either because there's no keyframes, you're in object mode, or you dont have a bone selected

also why is shortening them not a good idea?

keyframe interpolation should take care of a lot of the work

if you need any specific examples feel free to tell me and i can show you

but its a lot easier than it looks

its just

poorly designed imo

you just have to pick up on the weird quirks

oh and also if you're going to be editing animations you're probably gonna want this

its a poorly made chatgpt script from like 2 years ago

but it works

you edit the action you want to uh

edit

go into pose mode, make sure the armature is selected

press f3

search up select keyframe bones

hit enter when it comes up

and itll select all bones that have keyframes

[snow aspen]

What’s Ren doing here taking her spotlight

[kindred comet]

so you dont accidentally insert keyframes for a bunch of random bones

although if you do this you'll probably want to switch to bone layer 1 which displays every bone

even ones that the current model doesnt use

[kindred comet]

hes being awesome and stuff

[zealous fjord]

Alright, I'll try again when I get home. I'll screenshot stuff I'm struggling with. Thanks a lot!

[kindred comet]

of course!

[zealous fjord]

I tried again, but with the animation from AE0010_544 since they line up with the default sitting animation (I was trying to shorten one that didn't lined up very well). Thanks again for the video with the fix for ribbon, it works quite nicely

And those can be used to fix the sleeping in class animations too

[kindred comet]

very nice, i had no idea she had sleeping anims

im not sure if this'll be helpful but i do have a spreadsheet of kasumi's event anims with descriptions of what they contain, i wrote this way back when i started so itll probably lack some details https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xHMfa8jl-VeDQslf8qgCUzG-5F7umOZKtmxDaRMIkY4/edit?usp=sharing

i have one for joker too but i never got very far with it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/112MEaD8wW8h09FU1uns3nDsRSwHRrQeel9NR75FsLLk/edit?usp=sharing

if you'd like to add to it please let me know, i think itd be good to eventually document all of these

oh and on the topic of gap 770, could you try and replace the rest of the things in there? im gonna be dealing with some different anims for now

you should be able to reuse the subway reading anims from 771

and social stat raises can just use the standard hair flick one

[zealous fjord]

Sure!

[kindred comet]

i'll try and address the crafting animations at some point

for both here and at leblanc

[zealous fjord]

Yes, there's also a reading animation in Leblanc so I'll have a look

[kindred comet]

very nice

[kindred comet]

i can add you as an editor if you'd like, just DM me your gmail

[zealous fjord]

I was opening animations at random yesterday, just to see if there was anything useful. I'll just mention this here, if anyone's curious and wants to laugh

AE0010_712.GAP is a dancing animation

(not for the school festival)

[vagrant sky]

I would love to see Kasumi's model rigged to Joker's dance from the school festival

[kindred comet]

https://tenor.com/view/specialist-yu-narukami-persona-persona4-persona4dancing-gif-20996036

[zealous fjord]

The class anims with the reading anims

Not perfect, but, yeah

[kindred comet]

nice!

[zealous fjord]

Hmmm, okay

I fixed the crossword position too

[kindred comet]

very awesome

i think her pen is the wrong way

remind me to look into it later

should be a shrimple fix theres just a lot of study anims to go through

@open gull if you dont mind, i'd like to look into simplifying the voice patch by giving it a config menu. could you give me a list of differences between the multiple versions? (aside from the obv jp difference)

ideally there'd only be two versions on the download page

eng and jp

since as of now its kinda overwhelming

oh and i can make one for the weapons and equipment patch, although i would need to be informed abt the differences there too

i could also include it in the main mod as a config toggle but i'd need to know if its ready to go and wont require many future updates

although ofc any compatibility patches built in like this would need to be removed

[kindred comet]

finally replaced the attic hideout animation (ignore the joker jumpscare in the background)

also @open gull just letting you know it doesnt seem like the skillsets were updated for arsene (cendrillion) on that joker over kasumi mod

[gray slate]

all this effort only for atlus to not acknowledge the modders’ extravagant effort and give us a modern day persona game with fully implemented femc

[celest thicket]

depends on how they handle a femc

[gray slate]

they did it with ps3 portable and never again 😭 everyone thought kasumi was gonna be the protagonist before persona 5 royal was released

[celest thicket]

p3p was decades ago now iirc. Even if the same staff was on they've definitely changed since then.

I wouldn't want a femc that was poorly made tbh.

[gray slate]

i agree, but i’m very happy with how this mod, and others with it, are turning out

[astral chasm]

I also wouldn't want Atlus to release something poorly made, but at the same time, I'd have liked to have had another official femc 🥺

I think that's why this mod and the parallels are so good for keeping up with the evolution

[stray sigil]

P3P was 2009

I still have my UMD

In its plastic case

But my PSP's battery inflated

[celest thicket]

thats a shame

[open gull]

For some reason, the tbl edits only affect the skills which are unlocked when Violet/Joker joins the party or upon unlocking new skills, meaning that you'll need a new save for the correct skills to appear. Either that or you could use the debug menu to manually add the skills. (The mod menu might work, but I haven't tested it.) I'm not sure how to fix that, sorry.

[kindred comet]

that's not the issue

i checked the tbl and his first persona (arsene/cendrillion) isn't edited

it's also verifiable by checking the stats screen and looking at the next skill available

[open gull]

Oh right. Must've overlooked it. I'll give it a check.

[open gull]

The only difference between the standard and CBT version is the added voice cues/folders from CBT: 014, 015, 026, 035, 035, 081.

[kindred comet]

does the cbt version work without cbt

or does it cause issues

[open gull]

I haven't tested it, admittedly.

Alright, hopefully this fixes the Persona skills.

[kindred comet]

thanks! ill give it a test in a sec

btw what exactly are the cbt cues

[kindred comet]

oh i meant like

when do they play/how can i trigger them

unless the game crashes on bootup without cbt it shouldnt cause any issues

also im not sure what the difference is with these ones

[open gull]

Oh, those are addons.

The Futaba nav addon just changes Futaba's nav dialogue to Violet's (the Joker over Kasumi mod already covers that) and the latter two addons just add 'Sumi's lines for commenting when another party member unlocks a new skill. (eg: "I'd love to see that in action!")

[kindred comet]

does joker have lines for that idr

[open gull]

No.

[kindred comet]

hmm

if you give me the filenames i'll make it a config option

im gonna test cbt patch without cbt and if it works then you can just go with that one by default

and the futaba nav one can be a config

this should cut it down to two versions on the modpage, jp and eng

[open gull]

Good idea.

The only reason I had the new skill lines as an addon was because of the filesize, but looking back, it was cuz I made them with FEmulator in mind and thus included more files than neccesary. I'll fix that.

[kindred comet]

well the cbt version seems to work fine without cbt

so itll just be the default

[open gull]

Good to know!

[open gull]

081 = getting healed (eg: "Thanks")
034 = additional lines for initiating all out attack
035 = all out attack finisher
026 = complaining when attack doesn't finish off enemy (eg: "Damn. Still alive?")
014/015 I'll have to check.

I would've made the CBT lines a config option myself, but I don't yet know how to do configs.

[kindred comet]

wait does he not say thanks in vanilla

well the option isnt really needed anyway

[lilac needle]

Something i meant to ask but didnt know if it was asked before was the thing with Kasumi running before walking for a few frames...?

[kindred comet]

wdym?

[open gull]

Good to know. I guess I was just cautious back then, since I had issues with the CBT version not working without CBT back when the mod used FEmulator, but it seems like the transition to Ryo got rid of that issie.

My main concern is that users have either the default or CBT version installed, thus, deleting the default version would mean that users with that version wouldn't get mod updates unless the reinstall the mod altogether.

[open gull]

He doesn't.

[kindred comet]

not sure if there's any way to fix that other than pushing an update with a changelog just saying to reinstall

idr how updates work for pages with multiple mods tbh

[kindred comet]

actually how do updates work with your mod?

i dont see any update metadata on the page

and also is there any reason why FEmulator is still used for these

[open gull]

Oh that's for compatibility with the female audio mod, since that mod uses FEmulator to replace some files.

As for updates, I'm not sure. I thought I set it up right but I'll have to check.

[kindred comet]

oh well i just moved them to ryo

i dont think itll matter too much though

[open gull]

Alr. My main concern was that it would cause conflicts with the female audio mod, since then two different mods would be using ryo and FEmulator to load the same file for an event.

[kindred comet]

ryo redirects the cue so its fine

[open gull]

Ah ok. Good to know.

[kindred comet]

im testing it rn and therres no issues it seems

[open gull]

I'll probably keep my upload of the voice mod the same in case any issues arise and someone asks for the original version.

[kindred comet]

honestly i'd prefer if you upload it and continue to maintain it

i dont really want to maintain an audio mod

[open gull]

Ah alright. That makes sense.

[kindred comet]

and i'd recommend just throwing the old versions on google drive or something

since having a bunch of downloads clutters the page and will probably lead to people downloading outdated versions

[open gull]

Sounds like a plan. Feel free to make your own tweaks and send it over if you want. Whatever you think works best.

[kindred comet]

im probably just going to give it a config menu and then send it back over, this looks a lot easier to do than i thought

[kindred comet]

@open gull eng one done, i'll do the jp one next

[kindred comet]

@open gull

Changes:

• Moved all FEmulator stuff to Ryo
• Added Navi voicelines & Skill comments addons as config options
• Added a description and icon
• Merged the CBT version with the regular version

the source for the config is on my github

you should be able to add stuff to the optionalmodfiles folders i added easily, but if you want a new config option lmk

[open gull]

Will do, thanks!!! I'll test it out then post the update on gb!

[kindred comet]

yw!

[kindred comet]

once the main mod v1.0 is released I think I'm gonna finish up that joker over Sumi mod and start a story overhaul of my own

I don't have any details worked out but party member joker made me really want him back

I missed Akira 😭

both will be separate mods and won't be included with the main mod

[open gull]

Oooh alright! I recall Episode Violet aimed to do the same thing, though the mod page + discord went private due to rl+safety reasons. You could try to reach out to them if you wanted to collaborate, though that's just a suggestion. Regardless, I'm interested to see what you cook up.

New update.

https://gamebanana.com/sounds/73909

I figured the overhaul Wisty gave it was big enough to warrant 3.0.

[stray sigil]

omg

I've never been so early to an update

[kindred comet]

very nice!

[kindred comet]

do you know how much progress was made?

[open gull]

Not too much iirc. Some writing for the story overhaul has been done, plus L7M3's menu art and the Joker stuff I threw together were originally done for that mod, but the mod director was fine with it being used for other projects too.

[zealous fjord]

I have fixed the animation when calling the public phone in Leblanc. It works when calling Kawakami and when Sojiro calls you at the start of the game

Before/after:

[alpine crypt]

is it playable i want to try this

[zealous fjord]

Do you mean the mod or the fix I just posted?

[alpine crypt]

the mod

[zealous fjord]

The latest test build is here:

[wraith juniper]

Wisteria

Jump

[Go to message!](#1094412112576651314 message)

kasumiprotag-testbuild7hotfix2.7z

Download

[zealous fjord]

Remember to config Costume Framework and put "Slot_1" on Joker

[alpine crypt]

alright

ty 🙏

[zealous fjord]

np

[kindred comet]

awesome! great work

[rain tangle]

Quick question Wisteria, will the Joker over party member Sumi mod you're working on be compatible with early party members?

[snow aspen]

Does that mod work anymore?

[rain tangle]

Yeah

At least for me it does

[kindred comet]

Maybe but his skillset probably wont progress like it

also finally fixing up these animations

[rain tangle]

Ok, thank you!

[kindred comet]

oops

[vagrant sky]

I'd say keep it for its aesthetic 🤷

[kindred comet]

well i can just move her forward

[vagrant sky]

maybe Kasumi just wants to be a ventilation unit lol

I'm just playing of course, do what ya want lol

[kindred comet]

fixed it

[open gull]

Thought up a concept for an alternate loading screen. I haven't fully tested it yet (the loading screen hasn't yet appeared long enough for me to discern whether or not the icon is actually rotating) but I thought it'd fit with 'Sumi being a gymnast. (It's an edit of the in-game photograph of her performance.)

[kindred comet]

nice!

does this replace take your time?

[open gull]

I don't think so, no.

[kindred comet]

which one does it replace

[open gull]

I replaced the same spr_1 file as the main mod.

[kindred comet]

oh you mean the loading wipe?

[open gull]

Yep. I used the file structure from your mod as a reference.

The silhouette might be a bit rough in some areas (particularly with the lower thigh since her leotard has a skirt in the source image) so feel free to refine the shape if need be.

A quick question regarding SPD emulator, if you're editing/replacing a sprite dds without changing its dimensions/aspect ratio, would it be fine to leave the spdspr untouched?

[kindred comet]

most likely yes

honestly i do like the current loading wipe so i probably wont add this but feel free to make it an addon mod if you want!

[dry igloo]

For the joker mod, can I post anything that helps with it here?

[kindred comet]

yeah! feel free to

might be good to make a thread for it eventually

[kindred comet]

every hideout anim should be accounted for now

[kindred comet]

anims for chalk interactions!

[deft lake]

is that joker over sumi?

[pallid plover]

WEAVE NATION CERTIFIED

[kindred comet]

TRUE

[kindred comet]

yeah!

[west cloak]

Haru with a ponytail is sooo cute

[kindred comet]

[rain tangle]

Not sure if this is a bug or not, nor if it was addressed already, but when idle in battle, protag Sumi's ult weapon has the swing glow effect.

When I say idle I mean when controlling another member, it's fine when controlling her.

[snow aspen]

Shiny

[rain tangle]

Stumbled upon this nightmare when messing around with the cheat menu 😭

No idea why this happens, I have CBT no pre-renders on too.

[astral chasm]

that's the real sumire

[rain tangle]

she had a lil growth spurt

[kindred comet]

make sure cbt is above protag sumi

[kindred comet]

also yeah i decided to keep it bcs it looks cool

i cant really fix it anyway

without just nuking the mats

[rain tangle]

reasonable lol, it does in fact look cool

[rain tangle]

that fixed it, ty!!

[rain tangle]

Sorry if I'm being a bother, but I saw that there's a hair down version of the P5D outfit using the dancewear model and was wondering if the regular starlight outfit was changed to use the dancewear model or not.

[kindred comet]

they're the same model, the only difference is the music that plays

starlight uses groovy whereas dancewear uses ROTTT

[rain tangle]

Oh ok, I can easily js swap that then

[kindred comet]

the normal starlight outfit isn't in there but I added it back which will come in the next update since I noticed it was absent

[rain tangle]

Found an unfixed anim that you guys might've missed. It's the one where you hand Maruki the calling card and throw it onto the table on 2/2.

[kindred comet]

oh yeah im aware of that one, that'll take a bit of effort to fix

along with the fist fight animations

which i'll probably just bake physics for

[rain tangle]

ah, alrighty then

[kindred comet]

accidentally recorded like 30 more seconds than i shouldve in the first clip

[dry igloo]

Still needs some work but I got one of the saferoom animations done for Joker

[kindred comet]

that looks really nice, great job!

[kindred comet]

every metaverse interaction should have sumi anims now (pressing buttons, pulling levers, etc)

[supple moat]

Love to see how much energy people put into the Sumi mods

Just miss some voice lines for Cendrillon and Ella when you're using skills :x
Like "Enchant us, Ella" ect. ^^
Dunno if its possible to add them since Joker doesnt use 'em ?

[kindred comet]

it should be possible but preferably they would only be included with a cendrillion over arsene mod

[supple moat]

I assume you won't make one yourself ?

Another stupid question of mine, tried to use the alternative outfit mod for Kasumi but it won't show up.
Is it because of the test version ?
Tried it above and below the Kasumi as Protag mod and I know it used to work last time I checked.

[kindred comet]

the one on gb isn't compatible with the test version

[kindred comet]

probably not, i dont want to deal with skillsets or audio

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, I haven't updated the alternate model mod for the test build yet

[supple moat]

Alrighty, I was just confused since I've used it in the past :3

Looking forward to it and the story overhaul

[kindred comet]

[zealous fjord]

[barren temple]

https://gamebanana.com/wips/88857 with this mod you keep sumire in the party with her voicelinesand play instead kasumi but this mod isnt rdy for the download yet

@supple moat

[supple moat]

I know, am waiting for its release

https://tenor.com/view/crazykai-kaithedog-im-waiting-waiting-come-here-gif-25160759

[barren temple]

yeah these 2 mods will be beary nice together

[sonic finch]

Counting down the days until Joker's banished forever and it's Sumi time

[kindred comet]

umbrella animations should look a bit better now

i dont have a clip of the old one on me but she looked much stiffer when she would put the umbrella away, there wasn't any leaning

[vagrant sky]

looks good!

[astral chasm]

her old joker-running was funny lmaoooo but this is way better

[shell wren]

the hand wiggle is so cute

is that in the base animation?

[kindred comet]

its from her SL rank where she confesses to you

[open gull]

HAH. Perfect.

[dry igloo]

It's Great.

[kindred comet]

thanks 💜

[kindred comet]

[open gull]

I'm tempted to add a little Sumi squeak to the beginning of Mona's voice line here.

That might help add a bit of extra levity to the scene given what happens next. Plus, the animation you picked is perfect.

[stray sigil]

Do eet

[open gull]

Now to put it in the game and test it out.

[open gull]

Yep it works.

I am so adding that to the voice mod once the new update drops.

Ideally with a config toggle, but I gotta figure out how to do that first.

[kindred comet]

i think you can put it in without a toggle

something like this feels too niche to warrant one

[open gull]

True. I tested it out and I reckon it adds to the comic factor of Morgana's sudden appearance.

Especially since its before the protagonist starts knowingly smuggling him into class.

[kindred comet]

next test build should be packed with some nice goodies, like a dozen or so field animations and event tweaks and thats not counting the akechi rank 6 rework

and the hideout anims ofc

[zealous fjord]

Oooh, nice! I'll note that I'll need to check the Akechi event. I'll certainly need to change some stuff in what I wrote for that one

[kindred comet]

did i ever post it here?

[kindred comet]

found it

[zealous fjord]

Oh yeah, you did. I didn't catch that

[kindred comet]

anyways its basically just his rank 6 dialogue reframed to fit the jazz club into his past instead of the bathhouse

[lean bough]

Question, @kindred comet Is it possible to swap the battle portraits in the party overlay in battle of joker and Kasumi?

[kindred comet]

Yeah, that's already been done

[lean bough]

Cause I’m trying the mod but the thing I’ve found is that the battle portrait is still joker’s.

[kindred comet]

It should be in the test builds

[lean bough]

It’s not showing for me

[kindred comet]

are you using the test build or the one from gamebanana

[lean bough]

I’m using the build that reloaded II downloaded for me.

[kindred comet]

then thats the old build

[lean bough]

Ahh. That makes sense then.

[kindred comet]

you can download the test build from here or wait until v1.0 releases which should be soon

[lean bough]

Could you link the test build in here?

[wraith juniper]

Wisteria

Jump

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kasumiprotag-testbuild7hotfix2.7z

Download

[lean bough]

I’ll just manually install it. Cause I’m really wanting to play this.

[kindred comet]

make sure you download costume framework and configure it in reloaded-ii, joker's asset slot should be set to 1

[lean bough]

Thank you!!! And thank you for actually making a Kasumi Protag mod.

[kindred comet]

yw!

[lean bough]

Ok.

[lean bough]

It’s not often I see people who make such actually good mods.

Like I swear I’ve seen more mods making party members OP than I have total overhauls.

So thank you for your work.

Also, just one last question. Have Navi lines been replaced at all?

Like swapping joker’s Navi lines for Kasumi ones?

[kindred comet]

yes, it should be in the voice patch https://gamebanana.com/sounds/73909

be sure to enable the swap navi voice lines config option

[lean bough]

Okay. Thank you!!!

[kindred comet]

youre welcome!

[lean bough]

I’m hyped for 1.0 and I hope that it’s possible to have Arsene replaced with Cendrillion at some point.

[kindred comet]

i think theres a mod for that on gb but ive been thinking of just adding it as a config option to the main mod

[lean bough]

idk if there is but I cant wait to experience the most recent build pre 1.0 release

Uhm…

Is there a specific way I should config voice patch?

Cause I’m still getting joker…

How do I fix this? sorry for bothering you @kindred comet

But how do I make the voice patch work?

[lean bough]

Again that is.

[lean bough]

I’m dumb and blind.

XD.

Nevermind

I found my problem. The config says I needed custom bonus tweaks. And I was missing the mod.

That’s what was my problem.

i thought i fixed the problem

but its still not working

both the Navigator patch and the external navi files are on

in the corresponding mods aka Custom Bonus Tweaks and The Voice Patch. IDK why am still getting joker.

any ideas?

help

please

[kindred comet]

are you using jp voices

the english one is the only one with navi patch files

you'd have to ask count to add it to the jp one

[lean bough]

No. I’m using English

And I’m still getting joker Navi.

could these 2 be conflicting?

the she/her joker and the kasumi over joker patch?

i'm trying with She/her Joker off

to see if it works

It’s not the mods conflicting.

Turned off the female pronoun joker mod and it’s still joker in Navi lines.

Idk what I’m doing wrong.

I’m gonna sleep cause it’s late + am tired

But over all idk what to do. The voice patch which im using the English voices one. Is not swapping Navi lines despite me being on English voices.

[kindred comet]

oh i know whats happening

open the voice patch mod folder and extract this into there

@open gull whenever you make the next update be sure to update the OptionalModFiles folder structure like in that zip

basically just open the futabapatch folder > cpk and then move the battle folder up out of cbt.cpk

also updated thumbnails, i messed up the spacing on the last one

[open gull]

Ah thx!

I should note that the Futaba addon doesn't actually replace the voice lines; it edits the Nav BMD text file, which in turn changes which voice lines are loaded. So it should work for the JP version, albeit with English text.

From the looks of it, the config in the JP version already has a toggle for the Futaba patch, which'll hopefully make it easy to add that.

[lean bough]

Okay. Do I need to open a .cpk at all? Cause if I do… I don’t have anything to open that. If not it’ll be fine.

[kindred comet]

no

[kindred comet]

you can just extract this into the voice patch mod folder

[lean bough]

ok

but what was that whole move battle folder out of cbt.cpk

what does that mean? @kindred comet

wait

i went into the cbt.cpk folder and theres a dupe of the battle folder. i'm guessing i want to move it out of that?

(in other words I am lost once again.) When I move the battle folder out of cbt.cpk folder it asks if i want to replace the already existing files there

i'm so lost.

[open gull]

The folder structure should be p5rpc.kasumivoice\OptionalModFiles\FutabaPatch\CPK\BATTLE\MESSAGE\EN

[lean bough]

ok

thanks

Something I just noticed funnily enough

Is that you can’t fit Yoshizawa in the last name bit when naming your mc

Because the character limit is 1 letter short

So that’s fun.

Just some feedback. In the awakening in game scene. The camera feels a bit too high at some points cause it cuts off Kasumi’s face at her eyes or you just completely can’t see Kasumi. From my experience at least.

[tiny storm]

I think that's inevitable considering she's shorter than Joker lol

[lean bough]

Fair

Another thing I see is that the voice patch didn’t replace joker defeat voice line from what I can tell. Cause when I lost a fight with Kasumi dying it was joker’s “it can’t be” rather than Kasumi’s Voice. Something that might needa be looked into. (For me it was in a scripted loss but still)

[open gull]

Oh, is that the scripted defeat prior to Ryuji's awakening?

[lean bough]

Yup

[open gull]

Huh ok. I thought Joker's defeat quotes went unused in the game. I'll haveta test it out.

[lean bough]

They are used. Just usually the Navi is louder than joker… because you know

All Navi shout and beg for MC to get back up and all when they get killed.

While the other characters it’s a simple message saying “X character had been knocked down, can anybody heal them?” Kind of thing.

Also, actually curious. Is the P5R mod menu compatible with this? Cause I seem to be unable to even get Reloaded to A. Recognise the P5R mod menu and B. When it miraculously does, the game refuses to launch. Instead it just opens, black screen and then crash.

[lean bough]

Hopefully @kindred comet Can answer my question here. I could just be running into a random bug.

[vagrant sky]

I'd you'd like a workaround using a cheat engine, I know a method and was able to lengthen the name by 1. I'm free in a few hours, so you can shoot me a dm and I'll get back to you when I can!

[supple moat]

Replaced the files but I also still get the Joker lines in battle for some reason

[lean bough]

I mean it does say it is a futaba patch.

So if you have any of the other navis it won’t do anything.

It’ll only do it for futaba

[supple moat]

Am currently in the Okumura palace

:x

[lean bough]

Im just guessing based off folder names

Since technically futaba is the main navi. And morgana is more of a sub in til you get her.

[lean bough]

I mean honestly it makes sense it’s a patch only for futaba because the other navis don’t have lines for kasumi/violet

So you can’t exactly replace their navi lines.

[supple moat]

Okumura comes after Futaba tho

[lean bough]

does he?

[vagrant sky]

he does, yes

[lean bough]

i thought he was before. Cause am sure you have Makoto in futaba palace.

OH WAIT

AM MIXING UP KANESHIRO AND OKUMURA

AM STUPID.

XD

nevermind me

i'm just being stupid

[lean bough]

also i did send a dm

[vagrant sky]

sounds good, I'll reply in an hour or 2 when I'm back at my pc!

[zealous fjord]

Another fix of the position of some sitting animations. They play in event 510_050

[zealous fjord]

I've swapped the animation for the protagonist talking after waking up with human Morgana (event 511_060)

It was using a Joker anim

[kindred comet]

Good catch, I'm planning on going through most of the Kamoshida event anims and doing things arc by arc

will do the cutscenes too

oh and also

i just reused the persona summon physics for the idles so they dont loop perfectly, idrc though since it looks ok enough

[willow prairie]

looks like i need to remake that gif i made with this mod…

https://tenor.com/view/persona-5-persona-5-royal-kasumi-yoshizawa-takuto-maruki-sumire-yoshizawa-gif-4412147146676814302

[kindred comet]

she doesnt hate maruki 🥲 💔

[willow prairie]

i did it just for fun, no offense intended ||(also, i kinda have a grudge against maruki due to story plot and personal reasons)||

also, about the purple dress… will it be an addon toggle as well? @kindred comet

[kindred comet]

yeah

[lean bough]

@kindred comet Do you have any idea how to make like the amcitia mod menu work when playing your mod? I can’t seem to get it to show up or load when it does show up.

Like either it won’t show in reloaded II or game will crash at launch.

[kindred comet]

put it at the bottom of your modlist

I wouldn't recommend playing with it though tbh

it's mainly just a tool for modders

[lean bough]

I like to use it to kind of more make NG+ unique or to double check names and tbh im also reinstalling a bunch of stuff after swapping pcs. Including most of my mods.

[kindred comet]

well my mod shouldn't have any conflicts with mod menu

I'm able to use it just fine

[viscid flower]

Hey Zylvos, apologies that I'm replying to something so old. I did as instructed here with the latest test build and the newest alternate model download however it seems to only be working outside of the metaverse and in game model in palaces/mementos is still the regular Kasumi model. Any suggestions on how to adjust this myself or is it just something I should wait for in your first release? Thank you in advance!

[short spade]

not zylvos but all the metaverse outfits are controlled via the costumes folder so you would need to manually replace each one with the corresponding file from zylvos's mod, or wait for them to update

the easiest way to do this yourself is probably to look at this list as reference, if you scroll down you'll see c0001_151_00.GMD is the summer uniform, so you'd move that file from zylvos's mod to the summer uniform folder in costumes (in the kasumi protag mod folder) and rename it to costume.gmd

[mighty snow]

is there a way to move dancewear to the unused starlight outfit? i miss hearing groovy💔

[rain tangle]

They're re-adding the starlight outfit in the next upate

[short spade]

i think that was actually me that removed the starlight fit, or dancewear in my repo - i remember organizing the costumes and i think i forgot they played different music tracks even though it's the same costume, so i swapped one of them at the time to kotone's uniform i think

my bad

[mighty snow]

which one is the kotone uniform?

[mighty snow]

ahh okay, ill just be patient

[short spade]

i think wisteria changed the name of it to leader's uniform, on it's own slot now

[open gull]

Now I'm trying to find the sound effect that plays here so I can add a scream. I'll try testing that event out when I get home.

[kindred comet]

I plan on releasing the new test build hopefuly tmrw

just need to lock in and do anim edits/physics for a bunch of stuff

[lean bough]

Cool. Just wondering.

[zealous fjord]

Two more fixes :
First one is the event just before fighting Sumi (511_350). I've swapped the talking animation like I did for the event with Morgana. No video to avoid spoilers

Second one is the event where Sumire gets called "Sumire" cognitive Kasumi (511_150). This fix requires event editing to stop her head from doing whatever it is doing. Before/After:

[lean bough]

but where do i get it again? I found a github repo with a release back in 2022 but idk if its the right one.

[kindred comet]

https://github.com/ShrineFox/Persona-5-Mod-Menu/releases/download/1.9/p5rpc.modmenu.beta.zip

[lean bough]

thanks, although is that like a seperate github?

and does it work with royal?

[kindred comet]

it says p5rpc in the file name

[lean bough]

ahhh

[kindred comet]

and yes its shrinefox's repo

https://github.com/ShrineFox/Persona-5-Mod-Menu?tab=readme-ov-file

[lean bough]

i am just baffled and I literally just made a post about not being able to make the mod menu show up/work in the p5 user help forum

XD

[kindred comet]

added, ty!

by the way could you possibly send over some of the edited gender specific events? like the beach scene with only yusuke and ryuji

[lean bough]

https://github.com/Amicitia/Persona-5-Royal-Mod-Menu/releases - i was using this repo, that was in my search history. It still had ShrineFox mentioned as the one who published it

guess i was using the wrong one XD

thanks

[kindred comet]

yw!

[lean bough]

Oh yeah. @kindred comet It would be cool if we had a joker party member alongside this at some point. You know?

[kindred comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrNEhTiQ44

not out yet but itll be worked on eventually

[zealous fjord]

Sure. Do you want the others? There's also the event where Futaba is trying her swimsuit and the Shido pool scene

[kindred comet]

Yeah that would be great, ty!

[zealous fjord]

Beach events with Yusuke and Ryuji:

Futaba trying her swimsuit:

The Shido pool scene uses a custom recolor of the protag swimsuit (none of the girls are wearing her regular swimsuits). Do you want me to swap it to C0001_063_00 before sending it to you ? (it's her regular swimsuit)

[kindred comet]

honestly you could probably just send the recolored one

[zealous fjord]

Alright. It's a yellow retexture

[kindred comet]

could you send the texture too?

[kindred comet]

thanks

[zealous fjord]

By the way, are you still going to put an "auto-disabler" for the optional events edits and stuff like that (like the bathrooms, bathhouse, etc?) if my mod is used alongside it? I'm going to duplicate them in my mod so they're no longer optional and to avoid issues with dialogues, but I'm also considering making a big warning somewhere so people aren't surprised

[kindred comet]

i already made it

the only issue is it only works if rose and violet is detected before my mod is loaded

eg: if my mod has lower priority than yours

so im not sure how to fix that

[zealous fjord]

Hum, yeah that's not going to allow me replace some stuff

[kindred comet]

well if your mod has lower priority it should just overwrite the config files anyway

[zealous fjord]

Yes, but it's likely that BMDs and BFs are not going to be overwritten because of the file emulator. For instance, I'm expecting your Ann dialogues in the bathhouse to play even if I keep the event with Ryuji and Yusuke

Unless I make specific files to replaces those

[kindred comet]

oh yeah then probably

actually no

BMD/BF emulator dont work if a mod in your modlist just contains a full BMD

anyways i wouldnt bloat your mod with a bunch of stuff to prevent incompatibilities, i'll try and figure out a way to fix it only detecting it if its loaded before mine

and worse case scenario you just put a disclaimer

[zealous fjord]

I made some additional edits to the files that have the bathrooms dialogues at school. If I keep them in P5REssentials\CPK\EN.CPK, they're completely ignored (ie Vanilla file + your edits). If I put them in Characters\Joker\1, it keeps your edits and then mine elsewhere (ie mine is the new "vanilla" with which the emulator works)
I'm kinda expecting the same with BMDs

Well, i'll put a disclaimer next to the load order

How to configure things properly

[kindred comet]

anything in p5ressentials is overwritten by the characters folder

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, I'm probably going to move everything there

[kindred comet]

why

[zealous fjord]

Just in case and to make sure my files are the files the emulator is working with as a basis

[kindred comet]

i mean thats kinda extreme idk

there isnt really a reason to do that, all BMD edits are config options in my mod

i stuck everything in the characters folder for my mod since its a full character replacement and i'll directly benefit from CF's features

for text/dialogue mods its better to just throw everything in p5ressentials tbh

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, you're right. Well, I'll make a big clean-up / verification of all that stuff before release

I'll adjust things there

[kindred comet]

i wouldnt worry about it too much tbh, i'll try and figure something out

even if i dont though you will just have to put a disclaimer saying to disable all bf/bmd config options and that'll fix it

[zealous fjord]

Alright, thanks. If it only detects something loaded before, that something could be another mod like the "Weapon and Equipment patch". Joelcula is going to make a custom one for my mod

[kindred comet]

well i can probably just make the code check again a bit later

[lean bough]

I just want one thing to be added to the mod/voice patch. Kasumi’s actual AOA voice line when she gets her AOA finished screen.

[lean bough]

Curious

Is this meant to happen with Kasumi’s model?

Like her idle anim in battle seems to either not function or be frozen in a single frame unlike Morgana, and that who seem to be fine.

[short spade]

her stance is different when you get ambushed

99% sure it's the same for joker and every party member, but honestly it happens so little i couldn't say for sure - but looks correct

[lean bough]

Fair enough. I’ve honestly not seen Kasumi ambush stance so I wouldn’t know

[kindred comet]

yeah thats just her ambush animation

everyones idle and melee animations are different when an enemy ambushes you

to reflect the enemies surrounding you

[lean bough]

Ahh ok

[open gull]

That's already been added, though you'll need CBT for it.

[short spade]

@kindred comet did you ever decide if you wanted to include a persona swap as a config option? i cleaned up my old addon that has all of joker's personas swapped to cendrillon, vanadis and ella over arsene, raoul and ng+ satanael respectively if you want me to send you it over. it has no skill edits because i didn't want to overcomplicate it and i dont think its all that necessary really

[kindred comet]

yeah it could be nice, i'd be willing to add it if you send the files over

[short spade]

there you go! the visual.tbl in there is based on the latest test build i'm not sure if you've made more changes to your version since then, but figured if it was going in a config it'd need your changes too

the voice files you'll probably want put in the voice patch, right now i think that already has lines for ella and vanadis but they are the opposite way round

[kindred comet]

thanks!

btw you dont need to use my tbl as a base

it would probably be better if my stuff wasnt there, tbl merging should take care of it