#Persona 5 X to P5R (P5R:XD)

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whole bison
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11540 iirc

vestal stream
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I'll try once I get home but I already say thank you so much in advance

vestal stream
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Thanks it worked! Do you know by chance if only one showtime can be used in a battle?

heady fable
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this is completely broken for me. The game loads joker with his tracksuit and costumes missing

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Wonder doesnt even load its just joker

whole bison
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i mean the build is broken but not bc of that

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did you change the character asset slot to 1 in costume framework ?

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also wait lemme drop the new one

whole bison
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yeah

heady fable
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Also what's up with the "Wonder Thief" outfit

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it looks weird

whole bison
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expect some models to still show joker bc i didn't get around to moving all the models

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oh that's the new wonder model

heady fable
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yeah it's wayyyy more detailed then the older one

heady fable
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yoo he got that Soejima necc

whole bison
whole bison
minor plaza
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Oh nice!

whole bison
minor plaza
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I'm a fan of the details like that

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I assumed that he just reused all of jokers anims outside of idles

whole bison
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he did in the older ones iirc

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but now it's like fully new set of battle and field anims

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just need to figure out whats causing all the other anims in the gap to die

minor plaza
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I saw some of his coat anims in Noesis were uhhhhhh

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something

whole bison
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gonna have to like do real time phys or somin

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like i've never seen anything like it when replacing anims before

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bros head just snaps 45 degrees like

minor plaza
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That is strange haha. I only recently started looking into animation stuff and have had my own issues with them but that just seems bizarre

whole bison
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yeah it's not to do w the custom anims i ported either, bc i edited the showtime one to reduce the exagerated smirk and even that caused it

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and i still haven't managed to get emt anims to export from blender without a comepletly unreleated anim to the ones i change breaking everythingpain

whole bison
whole bison
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requires the newly released custom cursor mod, i tested it and didn't encounter any issues but more ppl able to test it the better

cedar shell
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any idea when the new update for wonder might come out ?

whole bison
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uhhhhhhhh

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no !

cedar shell
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np X)

whole bison
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hopefully before the end of february just need to finish replacing the anims and get physics sorted and then do costumes

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but i really wanna just scrap the shujin ones bc i hate how they look sm

astral pine
whole bison
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cool i’ll probs release it tmr then

whole bison
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oh yeah i forgor i exported her anims

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but uhhhhh i am not looking forward to fusion anims !

stray anvil
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just do what I did with elizabeth and theo

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Rig to bigger people, retarget

whole bison
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oh yeah that's such a better idea then what i did lmao

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i just edited levenza's skeleton and retargeted

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main thing tho is the camera stuff

stray anvil
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I mean elizabeth and theo mostly look fine

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Pretty waide camera shots

whole bison
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true-

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turns out the real issue for me is that blue cloth in the anim

cedar gulch
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is there a way to zoom out the camera a bit so we can get a better look at merope's face?

stray anvil
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pretty sure thats an event

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so you could edit the camera

whole bison
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just double checking weapon attach points are hardcoded yeah ?

stray anvil
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Just rename helper id

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That's how I make Koro use his mouth

whole bison
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would that work for dual wielding ?

stray anvil
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No in that case you put over Makoto or die due to hard coding

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You could also do a work around with weapons being inside epls in the anim, that's a thing I did for Yusuke

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Yosuke I mean mannnn

whole bison
cedar gulch
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L

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not beta last suprise

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(anyway, this is good progress lmao)

cedar shell
sterile wren
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i think you got trolled by aspect ratio

whole bison
whole bison
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damn this looks uhhhh v painful !

whole bison
minor plaza
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Schmoovin

whole bison
mellow dew
whole bison
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removed the neck shadow bc i thought it looked kinda weird ontop the shadow thats already there

wide nebula
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me.....

whole bison
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p5x dancing mini game prepared him

cedar shell
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AI ?!

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(wonder doesn't normaly say orpheu or izanagi no okami)

whole bison
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he has voice lines for them and all the other dlc personas

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not sure if it’s just me but it does seem abit quiet ingame even tho they’re the untouched files from p5x (they were the same volume as base p5r when i checked)

cedar shell
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wait so, if I understood correctly, in p5x, wonder has voice lines for p5r dlc personas, am I right ?

whole bison
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yeah

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and arsene

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has all p5r personas but santiniel iirc

cedar shell
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this is handy but that also means that those will be lock under gacha rules which is pretty terrifying

whole bison
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also got around to editing the plg so it no longer looks weird w jokers

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i do wonder if it's possible to do some trolling (using an empty plg) and just using the p5x sprites for the other characters

whole bison
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maybe w some slight editing

whole bison
whole bison
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if anyone could test these updates it'd be greatly appreciated
Changelog
added costume framework support, uses character slot 1
baked physics for field anims (any issues/ where it looks jank lmk)
redid materials on most models
changed active party battle plg so it no longer uses jokers one
added jp va for bp01

known bugs
wonders hunter attire costume has messed up physics causing gap in hair
costume framework descriptions aren't working for some reason
i forgor to remove shujin winter costume which uses p3re assets and is v rough but oh well

future plans
add rest of battle anims once lookat bug is sorted
replace/polish remaining field anims (chest one in particular is too far off to the right iirc)

astral pine
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costume framework descriptions aren't working for some reason
did i break something???

whole bison
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idk could be a skill issue on my end

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did it get updated recently ? bc last time i checked ik the descriptions on these worked lmao

astral pine
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yeah i finally released the first update since release but i don't think i changed anything that could break descriptions MakotoThink

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related to descriptions the only changes i can remember was an ercar shout and setting an encoding, maybe the second one hmm but not sure why it that would cause wrong descriptions instead of broken ones

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oh, i think it might be darkechi's fault naosmiley

rich eagle
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Oh I thought it was just me that costume descriptions weren't working for KasumiWhat

astral pine
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should be fixed maybe im going to ignore some of bonus tweaks descriptions being wrong for now

whole bison
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yep that's fixed it

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also finally got around to reuving closer's school unifrom to work w the beta 3 textures bc i did not wanna go through the pain of converting the mesh into a t pose from a pose again

whole bison
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redid mats for the thief outfit too altho idk if i've shown that here already lmao

whole bison
cedar shell
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your work is awesome !

whole bison
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ported over the updated fashion outfit from beta 3 trying a new way to convert the models from an A pose so riggings not done, but i also changed the materials now so it uses a normal map but uhhh the model do be 19,647kb lmao

whole bison
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there's so many different colorways for these outfits it's gonna be tiring converting all the textures lmao

rich eagle
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that looks so good on him wow i love it

deep sentinel
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any update on merope mod mortyyy?NaoHi

whole bison
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oh i just gotta fix some anims and then get a 3rd sem save so i can make sure it works in all those events but other than that it should be done, but i haven't rlly been able to play p5 this past week to test changes etc

cedar shell
whole bison
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i could use zmenu to call the events but the idk if all the 3rd sem ones are documented

cedar shell
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You can at least spawn the battle I think, which is already nice ans I have a non modded save file feom my ps4, that has been converted for pc at the end of 3rd semester if you want

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or there's the save file collection from gamebanana

deep sentinel
whole bison
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whilst i'm waiting to get enough time to properly finish up the update on the wonder mod, this update for the joker models is close to done

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nvm my laptops cpu is giving up hollowcat

whole bison
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haven’t got a video but finishing up the wonder update, doesn’t include updated battle or field anims bc 010 hates me, just gonna redo some of the p5 outfits bc i’m not a fan of how they turned out originally

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altho for p5rxd im debating swapping out yuki for wind but looking to take some advice on which characters should be who, only ones locked in are Closer/Ann and Soy/Ryuji atm

cedar shell
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good luck, I hope the new beta will give you a lot of stuff that could help you for the mod

rich eagle
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working on the p3 one atm

whole bison
rich eagle
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that looks so cool!

whole bison
sterile wren
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nice

whole bison
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is the real time editor in the beta any good ?

sterile wren
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yes!

whole bison
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time to figure out why it refuses to load any models for me then

sterile wren
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if there are too many capsules/spheres to draw it overloads the cpu and it just dies 🤠

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unedited joker 051 dies i think

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why not just steal makoto's values for everything

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looks pretty similar

whole bison
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oh i tried and the hair just disappeared

rose vineBOT
whole bison
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oh wait do u mean p3mc ?

sterile wren
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no

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he doesnt have any real time physics

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the back right side of his head would disappear for some reason so i just removed physics from it

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i feel like it's an issue with custom skeletons or something

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jacket has this issue too sometimes

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and only in p5rpc naosmiley, didnt happen on ps3

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feel free to steal values from this but idk if max released the update with this or not yet 💀

whole bison
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yeah just tried again it seems to die w makoto's

sterile wren
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can you send

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i feel like it's because of chain length

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type3 (bone relations) has a field that is just distance between 2 bones, squared

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if it's not correct it can either compress or expand the bone chain

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i can generate close to correct-ish values in blender

whole bison
sterile wren
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oh then it should be right?

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lemme see

whole bison
sterile wren
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yeah that looks fine

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i didnt even make the value editable since it should always be auto generated

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oh what 💀

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why so tiny

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the actual bones look fine too

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huh!!!!

whole bison
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love phyiscs !

sterile wren
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i guess try removing all entries from type3 and connect bones in p5beta

whole bison
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you get to the phyics editor via the model viewer right ?

whole bison
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i've never been able to get past the "file can't be found" error sad_uwu

sterile wren
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it loads the actual file from cpk

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yes, file viewer shows USRDIR files, but the actual loading is happening from the cpk using the same path

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so you need to have a duplicate like this
USRDIR\mod.cpk\model\modelname.gmd
and USRDIR\model\modelname.gmd

whole bison
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yeah that's what i've done

sterile wren
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then it should load!!

whole bison
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all the other patches work fine aswell so naotoshrug

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altho idk if i've tried just lobbing the files into one of the base games cpks yet-

sterile wren
whole bison
sterile wren
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where did data come from 💀

whole bison
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data.cpk

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oh wait-

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yeah it's loading now

whole bison
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F {PPU[0x1000004] Thread (gfdJobQueueFiberWorker) [0x00ab24a0]} VM: Access violation writing location 0x0 (unmapped memory) is beating my ass so-

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dw i have fixed the normals on the visor

jovial oracle
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Huh, it does need a bit of work but its looking good. 🙂

whole bison
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in what way you thinking ?

jovial oracle
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the outfit's pretty good, the visor looks like its close to completion and will look amazing once finished. 🙂

whole bison
whole bison
whole bison
sterile wren
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oh that's pretty close to p5x actually

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nice

whole bison
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thanks, might just reduce the mass on the back abit but other than polishing up the head capsule it’s done

verbal ledge
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Live Black Ooze reaction (He is bamboozled by the quality of your work)

whole bison
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oops guess i accidentally replaced a model that's used

cedar shell
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Hey mortyyy, wouldn't it be more convenient to release update bedore p5x next beta release ?You will probably get a lot of downloads due to hyped people about the next beta, have a lot of feedbacks and the' prepare next update with content from the 4th beta of p5x.

whole bison
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tbh it's in a state to where i think i could upload it now just need to finish replacing the hair, i'll hold off on anims for abit bc it seems like there's some new ones in the next beta anyways

whole bison
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should be done by today

cedar shell
cedar shell
cedar shell
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the aoa backgrounds

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like "go beyond" for wonder and "it's cool" for closer

whole bison
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i just got done replacing the hair meshes to the one w physics on all the models - hair mesh has an issue where the back would clip into the neck - had to rerig the hair and now i have to replace it again hollowcat

whole bison
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oh wow i did something v wrong in 010

cedar shell
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I agree, the hair is wacky xD

mellow dew
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honestly

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that hair goes hard

whole bison
cedar shell
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April wonder, goofy clown

whole bison
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redid butler outfit bc i hate jokers w a passion

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there's gonna be less costumes bc i cba to convert half assed head swaps that were in the og mod, but i'll update it w p5x/p3re outfits when i get to it

cedar shell
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All good

whole bison
cedar shell
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what to test especially ?

whole bison
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oh yeah menu models broken but that'll be fixed on gb

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uhhhhh just if janosik works and the overworld models

cedar shell
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all of the models ?

whole bison
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preferably

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ik there could be some issues w the work ones bc they use the old wonder model textures that haven't been renamed yet iirc

cedar shell
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Maybe I can try tonight if I ain't too long with the homework and the chores, not sure tho

sterile wren
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why is this like oiled up, and rim light is blue

cedar shell
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(11 pm for me rn. If I can't test it tonight, I'll be able to do tomorrow, I hope you'll get other testers tho)

sterile wren
whole bison
whole bison
sterile wren
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(multiple models are oiled up with blue rim light)

whole bison
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all the p5x models are

sterile wren
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💀

whole bison
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it's the mat i used for this outfit where it looks alr i just copypasted everywhere lmao (also ignore the clipping i will fix)

sterile wren
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the mask on rat model is so big lmao

whole bison
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does that mean the model ppl have been using for the past 10 months has a massive maskhollowcat

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bc i just copy pasted from first release basically

cedar shell
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possible, unless you get to shido's palace with the mod, you don't see it in "normal" runs

sterile wren
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(i think every model with this jacket has these funny arms)

whole bison
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the old models will never stop haunting mehollowcat

sterile wren
cedar shell
sterile wren
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im just going through every model

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in gfd studio

cedar shell
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must be more convenient using gfd studio rather than spawning the models in-game

sterile wren
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also if you wanna use p3re butler, these should be more proper

whole bison
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ty

sterile wren
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well maybe i made shadow map too sharp

whole bison
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jw do you think you could lob p3re makoto shujin textures too please i'll redo the model using that

sterile wren
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(ignore color being very compressed, i used gfd studio png to dds

sterile wren
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ken's sees uniform

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wow that is very shiny

whole bison
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do you think it's worth using pbr or c_complex for the p5x models

sterile wren
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complex should be enough

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damn this gold material is fire though

whole bison
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adachi_true it's from mudkips gfd libary

sterile wren
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and pk's blue channel works as a specular map

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or green? idr, lemme check which

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yeah you can use green as a specular map

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with specular power set to some very high value

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can you send wonder's new textures from p5x

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metaverse body

whole bison
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i'm redownloading my p5x dump rn but here's what i used when messing w pbr a while back should be unedited from the game

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oh wait nvm

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those are old textures

sterile wren
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they are yes

whole bison
whole bison
whole bison
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literally everything but the pk textures i have and there's like no dumpspain

stray anvil
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do you need a dump of latest ver

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I have one chilling on hard drive if you need files

whole bison
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omg yeah that’d be great thanks

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i spent ages downloading one i had one but it was only beta 2pain

stray anvil
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what files you need

whole bison
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basically all of wonders pk and normal maps, i’m not sure which bundles they’re in tho

whole bison
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how does-

whole bison
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left is diff mats w normal map right is old shiny mats (no normals)

sterile wren
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mask material isnt quite right btw

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the reflection

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idk why it's like sideways in p5r

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normals are part of the issue (reflection doesnt use uvs, just view direction and normals)

sterile wren
sterile wren
whole bison
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oh i was just about to send this lmao

sterile wren
whole bison
sterile wren
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edited diffuse texture and made a specular texture (just so that the rectangle bits on the edges dont get any reflection)

whole bison
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omg finally LFGHEEFUCKINGHOOO ||(they were on some random wonder model i still had when messing w jacket physics)||

sterile wren
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speaking of normals

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do you feel like reexporting every single model again

whole bison
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huhhollowcat

sterile wren
whole bison
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oh for that ofc

sterile wren
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all 3 of those have custom normals

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this was relatively low effort, i can do this for other characters too if you need

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i just turned this into normals

whole bison
sterile wren
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why is eye texture 1k 💀

whole bison
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oops forgor to replacehollowcat

sterile wren
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i set emissive color to [0.15, 0.15, 0.15, 200]

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personally im not a fan of this but p5x does have it so if you wanna be accurate then uh yeah

whole bison
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p5x shadow maps are gonna be the end of me

sterile wren
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this is a material issue

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inconsistent ambient color values and/or toon shadow brightness

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(she has proper shadows on face while the others dont)

whole bison
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im gonna have to reimport the faces anyway bc apparently theres two different head meshes used hollowcat

stray anvil
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or one of them is just a leftover

whole bison
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yeah the left ones from cbt1 iirc and the others the updated head

sterile wren
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oh 💀
do you want me to redo with the new head then

whole bison
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if you don't mind lmao

sterile wren
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well if you send me files adachi_true

whole bison
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btw how do you convert the sdf to vertex colors bc uhhhh-

sterile wren
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i bake!

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anyways i need the funny texture too

whole bison
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i think it's the same

sterile wren
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the uvs are different lol

whole bison
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i do not have my game dumps-

sterile wren
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oh wait maybe not?

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lemme check

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ok yeah it works fine

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nose needs a bit of fixing 😔

whole bison
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ty

whole bison
sterile wren
whole bison
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it do be that material

rose vineBOT
sterile wren
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maruki env bad?

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i guess just use the same material as neck then

sterile wren
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oh it probably is just maruki env being bad, the neck is ultra bright too

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can you check in not maruki palace

whole bison
sterile wren
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well that does not look right

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anyways i guess futaba just has a bad face material fr

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cuz you can see how even shadow map isnt being applied 💀

whole bison
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omg wait a sec

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blender 3.6 moment i think

sterile wren
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just using the same material as neck should work

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though the shadow is kinda soft

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i'd increase shadow factor to like 8 maybe

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in type0

whole bison
sterile wren
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copy type2 values?

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lol

whole bison
sterile wren
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that's the real time outline attribute

whole bison
sterile wren
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it's like super subtle but it's there

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also what is up with texture sizes in this

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bigass hand shadow texture, other textures are kinda blurry too

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eye is still massive too

whole bison
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i scaled down a bunch to 1024 and 512 bc having a 2k foot texture seemed uhhh v unoptimized, the eye texture i just forgot to get the 512 version so it converted the 1024 one as a dds

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i just need to mass replace them again

sterile wren
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lazy edit for shadow maps, better than nothing i think

whole bison
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ah ty i'll replace it now

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updated faces, fixed several broken p5x shadow maps, added normal maps, changed material on p5x models haven't changed nanashi should be the only unchanged one atm

sterile wren
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can you make rim light not blue

whole bison
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i thought i did-

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oh i might've forgor p3 models

sterile wren
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(you can batch edit it in 010 editor technically)

whole bison
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ah i just forgot that ones

sterile wren
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also i guess this issue is actually just diffuse textures not matching up

whole bison
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crunchy old model

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love psvita textures !

sterile wren
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also why is every model shiny still

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phantom thief outfit makes sense, it's like a leathery material

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but school jacket doesnt really make sense

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this model i mean (it's more noticeable in motion than this screenshot though tbf)

whole bison
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i thinks its bc of the specular, i think i might have the unedited pk texture for the uniform somewhere but it's not rlly something i can change until im back at uni

sterile wren
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it probably should have any specular tbh

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other than those things i feel like everything looks fine

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i assume gekkoukan isnt edited yet?

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i sent proper base diffuse/shadow/specular maps earlier

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now that im looking at it, i guess i should make shujin uniform's shadow map sharper

whole bison
sterile wren
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a bit more pronounced. like it is in reload

whole bison
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yeha that looks better imo

sterile wren
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also you didnt replace diffuse i think

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anyways

whole bison
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ty

sterile wren
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and here's ken again, but with a sharper shadow map too

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so yeah main offenders are neck mismatch, things being glossy, and ig old dancing models

whole bison
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the neck mismatch is probably bc of how i merged the diffuse and pk textures, so i should be able to fix that in an update next week

sterile wren
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it looks like it's just flat color in all models with this issue so i'd just use eye dropper and make a 16x16 texture for just neck skin color 💀

whole bison
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that is a much smarter way to do it actually

sterile wren
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well, more lazy way

whole bison
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still probably gonna have to end up reexporting every model again either with new neck uvs or to separate the neck and ear meshhollowcat

sterile wren
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or properly edit textures

whole bison
whole bison
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bc i am really hoping this is just a "doesn't work in my game" moment

cedar shell
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I would love to but my game decided otherwise (it doesn't load with any mod anymore)

rose vineBOT
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game crashes on boot modcheck

sterile wren
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that usually happens because of broken tables, let me delete my cache and see if it still happens

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it does

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by on boot i mean like 1 second after this shows up

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deleted all tables and it does not die

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though on most outfits joker persona 5 shows up

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oh wait i didnt switch to slot 1, oops

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yeah i can equip all outfits

cedar shell
sterile wren
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you really should not do that, i just did that to check if that was the issue

cedar shell
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well my logs seems to indicate some error with one of my mod but even deactivated the crash 1 sec ater the same screen as you showed up keeps happening and I do not have any solutions that comes to my mind that I haven't tried (redownload mods, R2, deactivate mods, etc.)

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so the solution you gave is the one thing I still haven't tried. Why should I avoid it tho ?

sterile wren
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oh yeah you should probably remove ReceiveShadow flag from the face material

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and make sure neck and face have the same type2 attribute values

cedar shell
sterile wren
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interesting collision?

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only happens on this outfit i think

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phantom thief mask should probably be more transparent

sterile wren
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normals gaming

whole bison
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ah nvm

whole bison
sterile wren
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do you mean the outline

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both values have to match up 1:1 in both materials

whole bison
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oh nah i was on about how white the skin goes at some angles

sterile wren
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that's just how it be with these normals

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you can make the rim light threshold bigger to make it thinner/push it back a bit

whole bison
sterile wren
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that has to match too!

whole bison
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oh okay so should i set that to 1 on the neck material then ?

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or well 0

sterile wren
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idk!

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apparently it's named incorrectly

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  gfdUInt32 flags;
  gfdUInt32 palette;
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and flags are just

  GFDEXTENSION_SHADER_OUTLINE_FLAG_NORMAL = 0x1,
  GFDEXTENSION_SHADER_OUTLINE_FLAG_INVALID = 0x2,
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lmfao

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anyways just grab both from joker's face i guess

whole bison
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left is both head and neck values from joker right is head and neck using the same from jokers head

sterile wren
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joker's head is split in a funny way btw

whole bison
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yeah ik i took the mat from the red part in your screen

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this is it using the values from the green part

sterile wren
heady fable
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outside of that all outfits work for me

sterile wren
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that's how it is in p5x

whole bison
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that's just what they're like iirc

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might add physics to the jacket tho bc blender just does not like it when i copy the keyframes from those anims to other ones

heady fable
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bruuh why does it pause for a secdark

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btw will the tie clipping be fixed?

whole bison
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oh-

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i didn't realsie that outfit was included

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but yeah it will be

heady fable
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the new hair looks sick btw

whole bison
#

as the wonder mods finishing up, i’m wondering what characters the other thieves should be obv luffy, closer and soy are set, but im not too sure what position to put wind in, komoto is most likely gonna be haru, so that leaves Makoto, Yusuke, Futaba, Sumire and Aketchi left

im not against the idea of using social replacing social links aswell, i think Kii will probs be over Mishima, and Hifumi could take Winds roll (it would be much less effort rig wise lmao)

sterile wren
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there's a material that ignores the Y axis rotation for shading

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so the face doesnt get fully shadowed if he looks down

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i think joker's interrogation cutscene model (102) had it

cedar shell
whole bison
sterile wren
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i can check now actually

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cause maybe i misrembered

sterile wren
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hi

rose vineBOT
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oh what happened to the video modcheck

sterile wren
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ok it does, idk if it was a discord issue but i just reencoded and it fixed itself

whole bison
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oh wow yeah that looks rlly nice

cedar shell
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1.5.0 doesn't load wonder for most outfits and seems to make the phantom thief outfits and some other outfitys completely disappeared, I needed to merge 1.3.0 and 1.5.0 to get back wonder on most outfits

whole bison
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yes those aren’t included bc they haven’t been updated and/or are bad adachi_true

cedar shell
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oh ok, good to know ^^

whole bison
sterile wren
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i made an edit without the weird lips and nose shadow and the face looks pretty much like p5 one actually

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also yeah those normals kinda suck

whole bison
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oooo nice, is it okay if i include it in the next update for P5X Joker outfits ?

sterile wren
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sure

whole bison
whole bison
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p5x does use a shader for the bustup gradients pain

sterile wren
whole bison
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true- i just have no clue how i would even go about converting that to an image

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and they're unique for each character and character outfit

sterile wren
sterile wren
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can you give me full json and a corresponding bustup png

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i wanna try some trolling

whole bison
sterile wren
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7 gradient keys

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what the fuck

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wait no 8

whole bison
whole bison
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chainner my beloved

sterile wren
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the fuk is this gradient

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not quite it, is it now

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i dont feel like figuring it out so

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common one seems to fit more proper

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(this is just using multiply)

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rescaled to fit bustup

whole bison
sterile wren
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idk adachi_true

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i gave you the textures

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(first argument is path to json)

whole bison
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omg that's amazing tysm

sterile wren
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but judging by the json parameters, they angle it ingame naosmiley

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man why tf are they doing all that trolling 😔

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this is so stupid

cedar shell
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The other way around coule work even tho that would be weird but this...

whole bison
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it's bc there's no gradient in that image

sterile wren
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i think you're right in that they apply the gradient and then overlay the base 💀

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that's so dumb

whole bison
sterile wren
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it's in the body base

whole bison
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OH WAIT NO WAY DO THEY TAKE THE ALPHA FROM THIS AND APPLY IT ONTOP OF ALL THE OTHERS

rose vineBOT
sterile wren
turbid sun
sterile wren
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yeah they apply gradient to the face and then load the body on top of that

turbid sun
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why change how they do sprites now though this seems way more complicated on their end too

sterile wren
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this is the first persona game developed by this studio

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it's not atlus

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they didn't "change" how they do it

cedar shell
turbid sun
whole bison
sterile wren
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gaming

sterile wren
whole bison
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they do be the same

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just a massive difference in skin tone

sterile wren
whole bison
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btw does gfd studio mass texture replace work on bins ?

sterile wren
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no!

whole bison
sterile wren
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i feel like it needs to be offset vertically a bit

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or maybe scaled down idk

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well no not scaled down, that seems fine

whole bison
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i'll probs offscet it abit bc this is just it w 0 ofset and close to the same scale as ann's

sterile wren
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but in most p5/r portraits the pointing end of the text box is roughly on the same level as mouth

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so this portrait is like a bit too high up

whole bison
sterile wren
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at least offset is just a value in bustup params

whole bison
sterile wren
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not in p5s either 🤠

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at least iirc

whole bison
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didn't p5s just use vanilla bustups tho ?

sterile wren
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yeah but text box is different

sterile wren
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did they update the shadow texture layout 💀

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looking at other models, wtf is this naosmiley

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sometimes shadow map is red channel and rim light mask is green, sometimes it's the other way around

rose vineBOT
whole bison
sterile wren
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blue channel is either copy of red of just white so i assume it just doesnt matter

rose vineBOT
sterile wren
whole bison
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how many different textures does one mask need-

sterile wren
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i missed a few

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so there's more technically

whole bison
sterile wren
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🦒

whole bison
whole bison
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i think using anns skeleton was a mistake-

whole bison
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wonder if it'd be worth comming someone for a p5x model exporter bc uhhhh asset studio just hates exporting animators w meshes

whole bison
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this is the outcome from using the merged option (needs to imgs from step 2 w unapplied gradient)

whole bison
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jw would it be possible to combine the MUModelExportInfo with obj’s after exporting think360

sterile wren
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who

whole bison
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oops wrong thread i meant to put this in the tool one lmao

clever crystal
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Let Mortyyyy Cook

whole bison
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i am not cooking atm

clever crystal
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Give it time

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I have full belief

whole bison
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tried matching Closers p5x skeleton (ignore rigging it's p5x's just w like 8 bones renamed bc the rest are the same lmao)

stray anvil
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is there a reason youre not matching her to ann

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like the actual mesh

whole bison
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uhhhhhh not really, i've already rigged all her current outfits to ann and ported some outfits over, but anns weird ahh anatomny makes some of the anims look weird

sterile wren
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these are definitely ambient and rim light colors

whole bison
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i think they might be a mix of haru and aketchis but i’m gonna change them anyways

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jw do uno if there’s a way to reduce the intensity of the normal map via the material so it looks closer to p5x ?

sterile wren
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no!

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edit the actual texture

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put #8080ff over it with a low opacity until it looks good

whole bison
whole bison
whole bison
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omg it got worse on reimport lmfao-

stray anvil
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mirrored bone moment

whole bison
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i've made a help thread for it bc uhhhh everything i tried to fix it hasn't worked lmao

clever crystal
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Forget the shoes

whole bison
clever crystal
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Looking cool Mortyyyy

whole bison
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added ui for comte

whole bison
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matched opactity|| for my own future referance it's 85%||

clever crystal
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This is sick

whole bison
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gonna have to redo the blinks bc p5x sprite doesn't have skin behind the eyelid so the blinks just overlappain

sterile wren
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oh yeah btw can you send your soy models, i wanna see if i can help with his materials

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i like soy so i want him to look good 🥹

whole bison
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sure, models might be abit fucky idk i haven't touched them in ages lmao

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oh yeah bc normal maps aren't included in the model i don't think (thief uses lodlow iirc)

sterile wren
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wow this normal map is ass

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this one as well

sterile wren
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have to go now but first model is done

jovial oracle
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are the party member persona's still in the works btw?

whole bison
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yeah, i was working on closers yesterday but i got distracted bc i was too lazy to fix an issue w the anim

whole bison
sterile wren
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i edited normals adachi_true

sterile wren
sterile wren
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rip by uvs my beloved

whole bison
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jw do there be a way of fixing this retargets issue w out editing the anims or-

stray anvil
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not a retarget issue, the sword is animated seperately

whole bison
jovial oracle
sterile wren
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oh yeah a bit of tomfoolery

sterile wren
whole bison
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it looks v v nice ingame tysm

sterile wren
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oh i may have used a wrong material for the face 💀

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can you use wonder's with the locked y axis, just copypaste type0 values and ambient color from the one i used here

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(it should not be receiving shadow)

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i love minecraft

whole bison
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p5r pc shadows my beloved

sterile wren
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i can make it have better antialiasing but that involves recompiling all shaders 🤠

whole bison
sterile wren
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nah it's like not hard at all, there's just no tool for replacing shaders rn

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only adding new ones, which can be easily adapted but I'm lazy

whole bison
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fair

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i'd love to learn how to do shaders and stuff so i can try make a p5x one bc it'd save sm time dealing w pk textures but maths pain

whole bison
# sterile wren rip by uvs my beloved

btw is there a tutorial online on how to do that bc closer also has some of the normals of all time|| ignore the rig/anim it's a v v old screenshot when i was messing around w replacing the showtime anim||

sterile wren
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oh it's just a feature in nier blender plugin LMAO

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i use that when i dont feel like manually setting up sharp edges for good normals

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it also lets you merge weights by name copies (so spine1, spine1.001 and spine1.002 would get merged into one)

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goated

whole bison
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that sounds amazing holy shit

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this one ?

sterile wren
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ye

sterile wren
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I'm not really sure how they use it though tbf

jovial oracle
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the mod's pretty good, are any of the party persona's avalable for download?

whole bison
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rokoko is just decideing not to work so-

whole bison
whole bison
jovial oracle
whole bison
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haven't even looked at it ngl956584683112656896

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cattle really isn't a priority atm for various reasons

sterile wren
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needs better camera though i think

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from what i remember it's just a gmd/epl?

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cuz lmao

stray anvil
sterile wren
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no i remember seeing that camera when testing every epl ever in p5 adachi_true

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i also loaded it in blender adachi_true

sterile wren
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actually, you can probably just rotate him instead of editing camera lmao

whole bison
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yeah that’s what i’ll probs end up doing

whole bison
sterile wren
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oh yeah that's good

clever crystal
deep sentinel
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Mortyyy's on fiyah🔥

whole bison
whole bison
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gonna have to redo soy now that im somewhat more confident w physicspain

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and weirdly it seems to literally ONLY BE WONDER who's bones mess up on export

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even in the most recent beta where he only has ~3 animators none of them export right!!

whole bison
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nvm i don't remember how i got it to export in the first place

whole bison
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retargetted basically every battle anim to the broken model now i have to do it all againhollowcat

whole bison
mellow dew
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she's taking the 'balls of her feet' too literally

astral pine
whole bison
whole bison
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works on my machine so idk catstare

astral pine
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naotoshrug hopefully it's just an outdated bonus tweaks, assuming they have your mod enabled cf should use a fallback outfit if a mod outfit is missing

whole bison
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yui has a normal model and animator but it exports empty pain

pliant yarrow
#

I hope everything goes as smooth as possible for this mod it rocks so far

whole bison
pliant yarrow
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Crazy how they made what's probably one of the best Velvet Room designs and it's for a mobile game

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Also the arena looks great so far!

livid flint
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oooooooooooooo that looks amazing

clever crystal
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7 course meal

sterile wren
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@whole bison did you release an update with broken tables 💀

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i updated to latest and it's crashing on boot

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nuked tables, it loaded

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bounding box moment

whole bison
whole bison
whole bison
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i thought i messed up closers face at somepoint for a sec but no theres just a gap there for some reasoncatstare

sterile wren
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they're struggling with these models

clever crystal
whole bison
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also redid the skeleton and this time there's no broken foot bones on reimport LFGHEEFUCKINGHOOO (bip01 R finger dums are but oh well956584683112656896 )

whole bison
whole bison
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fixed the feet by deleting the edited toe bones, replacing them with the original, then copying the rest pose keyframes from the og toe bones and pasting them to the edited rest pose nla

waxen oracle
#

Are you someday gonna add Video Game Wonder

whole bison
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probably, i haven’t done a lot of digging since yui released but a lot of P5X model stuffs on hold atm until there’s a way to export them with rigging

pliant yarrow
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Video Game Wonder?

sterile wren
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this monstrosity im guessing (what's wrong with his hair textures)

whole bison
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holy shit that's actually atrocious

sterile wren
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my honest reaction

whole bison
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he looks like a soggy cat there

sterile wren
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he has white pupils in it though interestingly

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(not the case for normal model)

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i wonder why, every piece of art ever has it

whole bison
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yui also has white pupils so it could be somin they did for the game characters

sterile wren
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it's weird

whole bison
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oh yeah i never noticed that before lmao

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oh wow the gradiented bustup i uploaded on twitters on the fandom (alongside several pieces of misinformation and incorrectly shaded bustupsnaosmiley )

sterile wren
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this is like the only art i found that doesnt have white pupils

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actually maybe this too but it's hard to tell

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why is it inconsistent 💀

whole bison
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it's weird they didn't just use black like the model does

sterile wren
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original soejima concept art had white

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they just forgor about it on the actual model i guess?

sterile wren
cedar shell
#

wonder should probably go see a doctor

sterile wren
#

he's simply built different

whole bison
sterile wren
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also even in art with white pupils, in some of them it's a circle, in some of them it's more of a diamond shape

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💀

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i understand design differences in different games but how can one game have so many

whole bison
#

if someone could test anims that'd be v nice, they haven't been synced to the hit fx yet, but im mainly worried about the crit anim being v v wrong ||(the camera has been unedited bc i haven't gotten a crit after like an hour yesterday) || also bustups use old param file from when i seperated this for testing back in cbt2 so they might not line up perfectly w the new ones

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oh and Ann anims haven't been retargeted yet (not sure if this is a skill issue or gfd studio issue but they only correctly retarget if i do every anim individually, the mass retarget doesn't worksad_uwu )

rose vineBOT
sterile wren
#

are you on latest

whole bison
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0.8.0

sterile wren
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that's weird!

whole bison
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tbf i haven't tried retargeting since fixing the skeleton, but it wouldn't do it with the last one altho im not sure if it's just bc that one had the broken foot bones

sterile wren
whole bison
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oh cool tysm!

sterile wren
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did you not adjust the sdf texture at all before baking it into normals 💀

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i made it symmetrical for soy and wonder

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(rebaked, that's why uvs look slightly different, but they're not actually)

whole bison
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nah, i did make it symmetrical at one point but the normals still came out kinda crusty so i just used the normal ones, what’d u do to get yours so smooth ?

sterile wren
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i manually edited the baked vertex colors after baking

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with the smudge tool

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the funny triangle is only on one side if you dont make it symmetrical

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proper effect

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can fix this crust with the smudge tool as well

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chin on the bottom should have the same values as the front, not fully black

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that makes sense for an sdf texture since it'd make the area always shadowed, but it doesnt work for normals since they're actual directions and are used in more complex calculations

sterile wren
whole bison
sterile wren
#

did you manually try to paint the funny triangle on the other side

whole bison
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nope ! just blended it really poorly in vertex paint

sterile wren
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that's still manual technically

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i literally just take left half of the texture, flip it and invert

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and blend the transition in the middle since that's the most obvious seam

whole bison
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i did not think to invert itcatstare

sterile wren
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and then this is what i bake and then manually edit with the smudge tool in vertex paint

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the way it's symmetrical is actually very similar to hi fi rush!

zenith crystal
#

is this a mod concept that just replaces all p5x content to p5r with third semester and shiNaoHi

whole bison
#

huh?

zenith crystal
whole bison
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oh i forgot that’s what the posts called

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current plan is focusing on replacing p5 cast w the p5x one, but eventually might branch out and replace some other characters too (i think mishima is kii atm)

pliant yarrow
#

Shocked at how good Joker looks with the Wonder animations, really glad their skeletons line up as much as they do

whole bison
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the mod uses jokers skeleton lmao

pliant yarrow
#

Ah 😅

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Regardless it is still really damn nice

whole bison
#

also btw @coarse meteor sorry for the ping, but is it okay to use cbt's expanded visual tbl as a base for the visual tbl edits in this mod to prevent the startup crashes ?

coarse meteor
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sure, I don't see why not

whole bison
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alr ty, just wanted to make sure

pliant yarrow
#

No way new update drop sukucheer

whole bison
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oh yeah i forgor to check overworld models so hopefully there aren't any issues there

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i increased the light threshold on the face mat to like 10 so Wonder doesn't just become rlly bright in some environments

sterile wren
whole bison
pliant yarrow
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For some reason the party panel icon doesn't work when using the Investigation Team mod so instead of having Wonder in the hud it's just Joker

whole bison
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yeah bc there is no spd merging iirc

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not spd whatever it’s called

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plg

pliant yarrow
#

I see

pliant yarrow
#

Okay this might be an odd question but are there any plans to make masked versions of the costumes similar to what the Thief Masks on DLC Outfits mod does?

whole bison
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probably not bc it’d just bloat up the costumes imo, although i wouldn’t mind doing something storta like the early p5 concept where they have the masks

pliant yarrow
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The early p5 concept?

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Oh like

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The Thief outfits that are over the uniforms or?

whole bison
#

ye

pliant yarrow
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That would probably rock hard af

pliant yarrow
#

Made it to mousification n found that Wonder had a bit of an accident when getting moused

whole bison
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i hate that rat

pliant yarrow
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So rude

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Just because he has a few extra arms

whole bison
pliant yarrow
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Wtf Hatsune Miku,,,

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Also do you mean like

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Scarf Physics?

whole bison
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that and hair

sleek relic
#

Mortyyy merope whenMarukiCry

whole bison
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i’ll take a look at p5x stuff again after i’ve finished the p3 thing im working on, but the main issue in general is the models not exporting w their armature which makes them 100x worse to rig, but for merope i think i need to redo the bust ups and mess w the camera for fusions or something but after that i should be able to send it here and have ppl check that anims are okay for 3rd sem

carmine trail
carmine trail
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oh nvm someone found him. Great work so far btw! Looks so good

dim mesa
carmine trail
dim mesa
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I need the boi

carmine trail
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it is yusuke and joker combined from looks alone sorry LOOL

dim mesa
#

I found Shun's head, but I could not find both or either of Seiji's models....

dim mesa
#

@whole bison is there supposed to be a shadow or outline that separate the jaw so that and the neck aren't blending together 😰 ? for some odd reason these models don't have normal textures for their faces...
and idk how to even apply the shadow textures
There's an option to hook up specular and normal textures with the default shader

dim mesa
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oops gimme a sec

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so I think i fixed the neck by using a dummy normal texture

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but I still don't know the purpose of the pk texture, how to apply the shadow texture, and that black and white face one

wary cloak
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i can not wrap my head around the 3d models, im trying to import chord into p5r but its way to confusing

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but the progress you've made is hype, keep it up

dim mesa
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RIP
well, at least I know how the model is supposed to look like in game

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screenshot very helpful ty

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the colors are right....specifically his hair, but it isn't as intense in shade

wary cloak
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if you need anymore feel free to ask 🙏

dim mesa
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I would say an image of his irl self but he hasn't shown up in game 😆 he's hiding in the game files, open in blender atm

wary cloak
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oh true, i forgot that hes hasnt actually showed up yet

dim mesa
wary cloak
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silly billy

dim mesa
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more like trap

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how can he look so pretty in the metaverse but then irl he's okay

wary cloak
#

hes still pretty irl methinks

dim mesa
#

his model can be prettier if somebody would answer my questions on how to properly apply these textures 😂 I put up a thread for help

whole bison
#

bustup param mergings out so im gonna try to clean up what i currently have for closer956584683112656896

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altho i really wanna find a way to get her summer outfit and persona stuff before release but uhhhhh Asset Studio hates p5xadachi_true

deep sentinel
#

Morty forgor to drop merope attendant.....

whole bison
#

more like i forgor to finish itadachi_true

deep sentinel
#

i thought its almost finished MakotoThink

whole bison
#

oh nah not at all, there were issues w cameras and stuff that i needed to fix but it's not as much of a priority as other characters

deep sentinel
#

oh i forgor you're gonna update your p5x mod right?

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since there's new outfits and new character on the new update

whole bison
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i would love to

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but

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animators exporting w out meshes is like the biggest reason why i put the project on hold

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so basically anything since full release can't easily be added

deep sentinel
whole bison
wary cloak
whole bison
#

tyty

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i think there's finally enough P5X charaters to replace the full roster

Joker - Wonder
Ann - Closer
Ryuji - Soy
Yusuke - Fleuret
Makoto - Wind
Futaba - Bui
Haru - Komoto
Aketchi - Doctor
Sumi - Mont

wary cloak
#

how is wind going to work since shes the navi

whole bison
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i think she might have some leftover stuff from before she was navi

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otherwise i can just uhhhhh idk find some anims to steal from somewhere

wary cloak
#

i'm actually really looking forward to see it, her being an actual party member would be sick

whole bison
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well i need a way to export her model with rigging firstadachi_true

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but i've got models for basically every character present from the betas just any after that is uhhh

dim mesa
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This person has them

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You just have to ask

whole bison
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with rigging is the question

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i can get the models fine

dim mesa
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I don't think they have the rigging

whole bison
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lmao just saw this on the blog thats p fun

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funny*

heady fable
#

i mean he looks like yusuke a bit too

whole bison
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hmm

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yeah actually

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bc hes an artist too right ?

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and ice

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so

heady fable
#

also give doctor dude akechi's prince outfit for when he is a nice guy then switch to the psycho plague doctor fit

whole bison
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that do be the planadachi_true

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or maybe idk if he has another sorta outfit that wouldn't require as much bustup editing

heady fable
whole bison
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ah fair enough

heady fable
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also looks like yusuke like i said

whole bison
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i haven't played much of the actual p5x story since like uhhhh the 2nd palace boss so

heady fable
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me neither but i saw him and that got me to like him

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so i saw his stuff

whole bison
#

anyways whilst im messing around extracting stuff i figured i'd get pegasus and yuki's stuff for a boss fight mod on the side maybe

whole bison
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also did a v easy shujin uniform for closer as the only thing i really needed to change was the skirt texture

dim mesa
dim mesa
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More than you know lmao

sterile wren
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oh wow 💀

whole bison
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here's the current build of the closer stuff im looking for people who might wanna test the following things

event animations
bustups having incorect blinking/mouth placements
cutins crashing the game
battle anims being wrong/janky

i haven't copyied the models/bustups 235135121 times to cover any outfits outside of winter shujin, winter casual, and gym outfit so

dim mesa
# sterile wren oh wow 💀

yeah 💀 I recognized those expressions right at the start
They p much copy-pasted those sprites with minor edits like the eye shape, face length, the direction they're both facing, and their skin tones

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some people say they just referenced expressions but look at Mont
She legit copies Mika's pose....

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I don't think that's the case for all the phantom idols and team members, tbh

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working on some of the other outfits bustups atm and uhhhhh im probably just gonna steal makotos, the blue fits Closers casual outfit and once she's replaced with Wind it won't be the same anyways

heady fable
wary cloak
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how did you make the bustups not pasty white

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im trying to port chord into p5r and it's actually blinding how white her bustups are

whole bison
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almost every character has their own gradient thingy in the files, you can export it as a json or somin iirc and then make it through that

wary cloak
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oh okay, i'll check if its in the p5x datamine drive

jovial oracle
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are there any of the persona's from p5x avalable for download/playtesting?

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Rob Roy is one I'd love to try out most

late socket
whole bison
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finally got this done, still some rigging to touch up but

mellow dew
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when did closer get an obligatory swimsuit model lol

whole bison
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came in the summer update, they gave one to wind, kotomo, wonder and soy too iirc

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oh and the velvet attendent

mellow dew
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surprised they aren't in one-pieces knowing china's censorship

wary cloak
whole bison
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nope

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altho something that might interest you is that i mightttt have the guitar girls model w rigging somewhere on my drive

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i won’t be able to check until tmr tho

wary cloak
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nope- but with her original rig it should be p easy to just skin wrap it

wary cloak
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oh true, i dont know why i didnt think to do that

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@wary cloak not sure how useful it'll be but here's her model from cbt1 with rigging incase you wanna rename and merge vertex groups in blender to match violet

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dim mesa
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How do you even get the rigging? 😭
I need Kira with rigging for a custom dancing model

whole bison
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kira ?

dim mesa
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Y'know, doctor guy (Messa in his PT outfit)

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From some looking online, his file names are simply 'Doctor'

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A friend of mine has been having a rough time trying to gather funds for all sorts of stuff for months in a row and she's working herself to the bone 😭 she looovveeesss Kira and I want to surprise her with him and her OC

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Flight back home, gathering rent for the place they moved in, getting a surprise flea infestation (can you believe the realtor/previous owners left them in rhe dark about something that important??), spaying her cat 😭 and Brazil sure ain't cheap from what I can tell

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Mfer in an A-pose and I know of the infamous shoulder problem
And I can't fix that, not with my current skill set (yet somehow Masaki aka Cherish has a T-pose?? 😭 the fuck)

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iirc i couldn’t find a way to

dim mesa
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Damn
Guess I'll have to use the arms of that one Fleuret meshmod

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But here's the thing: mofo likes to use apricothere's models for the armature instead of rips
So i'm gonna have to play the guessing game of connecting the arms to the rest of the armature

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Well
Parent, to be more precise

sterile wren
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@whole bison hi do you have original wonder textures

whole bison
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uhhhhhhhhh

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si

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lemme grab them

sterile wren
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sankyu

whole bison
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np

dim mesa
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Poor Morty, being bombarded on all ends

whole bison
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i don't have high hopes but if this works it could be big

sterile wren
# whole bison

do you also have party panel ui perhaps maybe perchance....................................................

whole bison
sterile wren
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do they just use top left if it's your turn

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yeah

sterile wren
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i shall put him in p5s...

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bond icons too

whole bison
whole bison
wary cloak
vale maple
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But we got to see it today

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You don't have to steal anims anymore

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It's not just an alt

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It's an actual upgrade and true form

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And it's canon to the story, she actually becomes it

jovial oracle
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I'm still suprised there hasn't been a us version yet

dim mesa
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I wish I could see what's going on, but Korea gets content a week later and I gotta wait for the player I watch to post

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pain oh well ig winds gonna have to wait

vale maple