Ars Plus

[still linden]

i hear that some people on discord can be a bit 😭

[west flame]

yea thats not something that you would normally be joking about

[still linden]

nahhhh but the mod was that tuff tho

[west flame]

truly an all american alloy

[still linden]

https://tenor.com/view/rakai-rakai-studio-rakai-gif-rakai-max-rakai-rap-gif-14162875812429911461

idk when to expect an update but i know its gonna be big so lemme not

[neon fjord]

I can probably have everything features wise done by end of december? idk depends how busy I am. Then the 1.21.1 version and waiting for the new art may take longer

[still linden]

i think i can wait that long esp with all that content AND a promise of a 1.21.1 port?

[neon fjord]

Watch 1.22 ars drop by the time I'm done and I have to make another port

[still linden]

LMAO bro if you drop 1.21 ars plus ill deadass only play that version

[neon fjord]

dw bro, I'll update it once I have everything done. Just won't be making as big of updates probably

[still linden]

thats fine, the mod is really fun as is

trinkets is good too but its way too bullshit to play over a long period of time 😭

i enjoyed the purple essence production lines tho

[neon fjord]

yeah, I plan on adding a lot of config options so they can tweak things if they want things more/less op

[still linden]

that would be much appreciated thank you very much

[neon fjord]

lol, I remember having a whole army of digital miners trying to get enough copper

[still linden]

bro i just slapped luck 4 on a break spell with smelting on it

and then put chaining on it too

[neon fjord]

Idk man. I was trying to make the eternity charm or whatever it was called

[still linden]

SAMESAME

they are really good but the crafting tree is way too unhinged

[neon fjord]

yeah, it was just something to work towards for me

kinda appreciated it for that but I'd never make smth that requires that big of a grind

I like things that require "content" like adventuring and fighting bosses so that's why I'm trying to add that stuff

[still linden]

it made sense on my friends ars server but nobody really understood the mod like that so we were the most powerful mages on the server ☹️

[still linden]

AGREED

[plucky pivot]

Trinkets is best enjoyed if you play it like Satisfactory. I play with project E so the most challenge the game has really is starbuncle production lines

Very good relaxation game at that point

[still linden]

honestly

W taste btw

satisfactory is fire

[still linden]

gonna add create and replace those with conveyors if i can

[plucky pivot]

I've thought about doing that but create isn't as funny/too big brained for me

The smartest thing I've ever done in this game is name my starbuncles by what their job is

[still linden]

lmao

[still linden]

i hear it, tbh i just want eternity rune production and source farms to be way easier ngl 😭

[plucky pivot]

My current setup is sourceberry farm with an agronomic source link being fed into a mycelium sourcelink eating the berries

[still linden]

same here but it doesnt produce enough source quickly enough 😔

[plucky pivot]

I've seen some pretty crazy wixie setups?

[still linden]

i swapped to a tree farm (the cool mage ones) with volcanic source links replanted with turrets

[still linden]

really?

[plucky pivot]

Yeah lemme see if I can find it

Can't seem to find it but there's a source link that gains source from brewing so you have wixies brew potions for you and it apparently generates loads of source

I'm gonna try and set up a sourceberry food autocrafting thing for them tonight after work cause hot dang crafting the diamonds from this mod are taking me a hot minute

[still linden]

lmao yeahhhh they were the main reason i made that volcanic sourcelink farm

i got like 7 stacks of mana diamonds in an hour or two

[plucky pivot]

Hot damn

My current current goal is slaughtering a lot of starbuncles with the capturing enchantment from Apotheosis to get a starbuncle farm lol. It hurts, but it must be done

[still linden]

does that actually work?? ive just been crafting the little summon thingies this entire time

[fair sedge]

can some one plz show me how there infinity is set up

[plucky pivot]

Yes but it only spawns wild ones. I have a spawner in a pit I throw gold nuggets at

And it does take a WHILE to get a spawn egg because you need to kill the wild ones

Though that is untested you might be able to get one from your own starbuncles

[still linden]

OH okay thank you

@neon fjord hey senate i dont remember if i asked before but how did you get so good at modding? ive been learning on and off for a few months and im making progress but not a lot, its a bit hard to understand and looking for answers and information is kinda hard

[frosty nacelle]

wild statement

[drowsy charm]

theres no way to make annilate stop targeting blocks right

it will just simply delete them no matter what as long as a projectile hits a block type

[neon fjord]

I'd just suggest using burst before annihilate so that it only targets entities

[drowsy charm]

see i was doing this, but using sensitive on burst so it created all the max projectiles

if i got rid of senstive on burst it wont make excess projectiles start just swiss-cheesing an area?

[neon fjord]

Yeah, if you're already using burst for propagation then you can't use it again. But if you place it right before annihilate then you can use that to filter our blocks

[drowsy charm]

also idk if JEI is confusing me // this just horribly setup modpack, can you explain the Armor crafting/upgrading "progression". i have all the souls thanks to drygmys that i could ever ask for and wanted to turn my vanilla ars tier 3 gear into some of yours as its my first time with this addon (love it btw)

[drowsy charm]

which im not as familiar with the glyphs, burst just having burst + aoe will only make it create more projectiles if entities are in that burst range right?

[drowsy charm]

nvm ive figured it out now, think its the pack makers fuckery with recipes and shit

[fair sedge]

what is the glyph set up for limitless

[spark ocean]

I am having the same problem, if you figured it out, could you tell me how it works?

[drowsy charm]

so you have to pick one of the three armors (flame, frost, earth) and awaken it then turn that into lightning, awaken that and then turn that into void and then awaken and tada

[spark ocean]

But how do I make the flame armor? I am trying to put in my sorcerer stuff but it doesn’t want to upgrade

[plucky pivot]

Is your armor fully upgraded?

Blaze rods to chorus fruit and pearls?

That was the issue I was having

[drowsy charm]

do you have it tier 3 base ars upgrade

you need it to be tier 3

[spark ocean]

Ahhh it needs tier 3. that explains it. Okay thanks!

[sonic igloo]

how do i get mage cloth

[neon fjord]

Kill mysterious mages, they spawn in the dark in the overworld but are relatively rare

[neon fjord]

Anyone have cool ideas for armor set bonuses? I have some in mind but more than one persons perspective is always better

I'm a big terraria fan so I'm also gonna have two variants of the void armor helmet at least to that one will have two.

[plucky pivot]

Would it be possible to have a ranged or melee attack bonus? I personally really like fighting with the enchanter's blade, so it could be cool to see a Magician's set vs a Spellsword's set

+mana boost vs +spell damage boost or something

[plucky pivot]

Oh another question would it be possible to have a dedicated Ars Plus tab in the Ars notebook thing? Looking for crafting recipes and how to summon the mages took me a hot second of clicking through JEI to figure out

[neon fjord]

I can try

[plucky pivot]

I noticed it's there SOMEWHERE in the book could I could only find it by using JEI

[neon fjord]

🤔

[sonic igloo]

how do i get ancient souls

[neon fjord]

Kill the boss summoned using the ritual of mage summoning + conjuration essence + triune soul

[sonic igloo]

word thanks

[spark ocean]

if I enchant my sorcerer gear with enchantments like mana regen for example and then upgrade it to the flame set, do the enchantments persist or do they get removed since it is a "new" item so to say?

[neon fjord]

The enchantments should persist

[spark ocean]

I see, thank you

[west flame]

Lookin good!

[foggy zinc]

PLEASE NO

[tranquil umbra]

it only makes sense

make a thread that activates limitless with a keybind

at the cost of mana

[foggy zinc]

Oh thats what u mean

but cant u set spells to hotkeys?

[tranquil umbra]

not really a spell but more so like an activation key

i am not too knowledgeable in editing ars but am pretty sure u can do that

[neon fjord]

#1235001538611511357 message
I could try and do something with the charm I already made

[neon fjord]

🤔 Thoughts on adding "leap fatigue". Imo leap being spammable gives too much mobility to players which makes it hard to adequately challenge them imo. Ofc I'd add a config option to remove this but I think putting a mixin for the leap glyph to have some sort of cooldown would do a lot of good.

I like the leap glyph as much as the next guy. But giving it a cooldown and giving bosses an aura to disable gliding would allow for more fun fights imo while still having a "dash"

[west flame]

eh
i mean thats cool but that situation is only one application. we would also be affecting one's method of transportation, the mageblock railguns, a couple other varied uses, all of which would unnecessarily suffer from that debuff

[neon fjord]

A) I kinda think travel from leap is alr overtuned + outside of bosses you can still glide in which case you usually aren't spamming it.
B) I'd only apply it when you target yourself

and C) config option for people who hate it

[compact totem]

The current config to limit leap only works for caster == target iirc

[neon fjord]

Wait, this is a thing?

[compact totem]

If enabled, it allows to leap only while on ground

[neon fjord]

Hmmm, yeah idk if I wanna be that restrictive.

[compact totem]

You can always have an aura applying gravity if you want grounded fights

[neon fjord]

See, I don't necessarily want to restrict people that much. Just flying around like a fighter jet is kinda too far

[west flame]

although a glyph that works like a grounded leap (leap in the direction you move or leap with no upwards force) that also gives very short iframes (with a cooldown) actually sounds like a fun idea

[neon fjord]

idk, I don't really wanna be changing base ars. But at the same time within the scope the mod I think it's a little too good

[neon fjord]

I need to cut myself off from just adding endless glyphs lol

[west flame]

lol

[neon fjord]

but I do kinda like the idea

[west flame]

if you dont create it I will

[neon fjord]

once again though... leap exists so why

[west flame]

why not

[neon fjord]

bc people will probably just use leap

iframes are nice, but flying out of danger is usually better

(Also lowkey think adding back multiple leaps in a row as an armor set bonus is a neat reward. Like maybe 3 in a row)

[west flame]

hm
slight alteration: gain like +300% speed + invulnerable for one second.
rushdown type glyph

or kinda like
Projection Sorcery

[neon fjord]

I think a "dodge" glyph that moves you based on movement direction instead of the direction your looking would be useful

[compact totem]

I kinda tried with momentum but it's kinda weird stuff

Because you can't reliably use the delta vec

[neon fjord]

That was kinda the vision when I first made "limitless" but it just ended up very janky and is half of the questions I get.

[open cobalt]

this is in the mod rn?

[mighty marsh]

is the ars plus update out yet

like maho type shi

is ars plus stand proud yet

is senate the nah i'd win yet?

[plucky pivot]

No not yet unfortunately

Looks like there's some pretty big changes coming with it though?

Actual content instead of just updating the code to 1.21

[compact totem]

"Add method of finding structures / boss rituals within them."

Isn't the ritual for that in base ars?

Or is it Additions

[neon fjord]

Additions, also I need to tie it into the natural progression

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/toji-toji-fushiguro-death-bloody-died-standing-gif-769732690373477383

[hard hare]

If leap had a cd

Could i self knockback then

[neon fjord]

I'm... not sure

[west flame]

yea but there is no verticality

[compact totem]

Self Wind burst?

[west flame]

CS propogate the windburst

[neon fjord]

See how much creativity is inspired by leap cd.... Trust, it'll be a good idea

[west flame]

these were brought about because leap was disabled in a pack

so instead of useing the normal things we got creative and made ones far more powerful than normal

[neon fjord]

Leap do be like that. I'm committed to this vision

[foggy zinc]

I don't understand how you're supposed to upgrade the new armor

there are 24 different pages of recipies

and nothing works in my creative world

[neon fjord]

Look under the enchanting apparatus. And yes, I didn't bother to setup the creative tab armor correctly

[foggy zinc]

Wait so magic armor upgrade doesnt do anything to that armor?

[neon fjord]

The "Magic Armor Upgrade" in JEI is smth I forgot to remove before uploading to CF

[foggy zinc]

ohhhh

I thought it worked like the normal armor

where u could upgrade each set piece in tiers

[neon fjord]

I'm just stupid and forgot it. And now I'm working on a big update so I'm not gonna bother with a small patch

[foggy zinc]

alr gng

keep grinding

Ik your doing great 👍

[neon fjord]

will do will do

Promise imma blow the previous version of this mod out of the water

[west flame]

and straight into 121.1?

[neon fjord]

Making 1.20.1 and then 1.21.1, buuuuuuut it's likely I'll release them both at the same time to give Eru more time for models

but yeah, I'm just gonna hop straight to working on the 1.21 ver after 1.20.1 is done

[west flame]

hell yes

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-conq-cope-meme-gif-14334455943902534054

Guh, can't wait to be done these structures and move onto making the mage knight

tldr, planned to be a stronger variant of the mage that only spawns in structures that uses an enchanters sword and shield with a melee block / counter and a projectile reflect on a cooldown.

[still linden]

that sounds so tuff ngl

any other plans for mobs that we can fight?

[neon fjord]

I'm gonna limit myself to the two mobs and four bosses for now. Both of the mage types have randomized spell lists so they should have lots of variety even within the two mobs

[still linden]

i hear that i hear that

oh wait

btw

yk rushing them with a sword is surprisingly easy 😭

[still linden]

passive spell efficiency?

like every spell is fired as if spell efficiency is tagged on the end of it

or maybe you can have armour that passively "stores" mana that can be used when the player's mana bar runs out

would work fire with ars zero when ts gets updated

[neon fjord]

Yeah, they're supposed to be variants of skeletons. Dangerous in a group of mobs but you can easily solo them if you isolate them

[still linden]

OH then yeah they work really well at that

i keep forgetting that regular players are supposed to be fighting these things and not endgame mages 🥹

[neon fjord]

The "Mage Knight" is supposed to fill that role of an in your face threat. Since the structures you find the bosses in will have a mix of both they'll work off of each other's strengths

[still linden]

will they drop any unique loot?

[neon fjord]

But yes, they're just mobs, they shouldn't be one shotting people

[neon fjord]

More mage cloth and variants of caster tomes with durability and whatever spell they used.

[still linden]

tell that to orca san lmao

[still linden]

yeah WE are using

[neon fjord]

lol, I'd like to keep from turning the regular ah overworld into a hellscape

[still linden]

ryomen sukuna malevolent shrining my house will never leave my mind 🥹

[neon fjord]

Also I intended to make the mage spells a community thing where ppl can submit their own spells kinda like the starbuncles. Some of them can be stupidly strong

[still linden]

has anyone submitted the ice burst spell yet 😭

[neon fjord]

I've only added one spell that uses iceburst so far

with 38 total spells added

[still linden]

where can you submit?

[plucky pivot]

Not to add more requests but could you add a config to disable mages that do raise earth and throw those ice crystals

The cleanup can get annoying

[neon fjord]

Sure, I have to do a bit of a rework anyways but I can add a "no-spell-greifing" config or smth

[plucky pivot]

Godsend

[neon fjord]

Just msg me here

      "color":  "purple",
      "spell":  "exchange-rotate-leap-delay-pull-amp-launch-launch",
      "coold":  "short",
      "type":   "projectile",```
Here's an example. Type is the form and can be projectile, detonate, self, or melee

color is any minecraft dye color

[still linden]

thank you

MISTAKEMAKER MY NO.1 OPP BTW

[crimson talon]

i summoned the earth elemental mage and he killed me and i cant find my gravestone

does the domains void loot inside?

[crimson talon]

cuz i cant find my loot anywhere

cant even see it underground

[odd geyser]

what do the upgrades do for the awakened void archmage armor do?

cause i got 48 choices to do

so if anyone can let me know that'd be great

[runic night]

main hand fortune pickaxe, off-hand spell book, u save urself the glyphs for ur mining spell

[neon fjord]

They shouldnt but I can look into this

[crimson talon]

please do 🙏

[foggy zinc]

@neon fjord What additions are you making in terms of progression for the next update?

[compact totem]

Look at the pins

[neon fjord]

#1235001538611511357 message

[remote kraken]

hi about this mod is it possible to stop the bosses from destroying our world

[west flame]

Well they will despawn if you get to far away/if you die
Also it usually recommended to not be near your base but otherwise there is no cure
Only prevention

Al none that I know of

[remote kraken]

thanks ig

[west flame]

Forgive me if I can't give a satisfactory answer.

[remote kraken]

its ok

[neon fjord]

In the next update they'll be in their own structures they'll destroy. Sorry for any damage done but I think it's fun to keep them destructive

[remote kraken]

ok

btw there are alot of spells that can one shot tho

[neon fjord]

As in the bosses die easy? Yeah, I'm gonna look into that bc iframes be iframing

[remote kraken]

no as in you can one shot a person with endgame level armor with a simple anihalate spell

i had an awakened void archmage armor

with prot 4

and got oneshot by a spell that was anihalate amp 4 + an extra one at the end

its a one shot spell

and you can reduce the cost to make it spamable

its op

and that isnt the only one either

theres ones with divine smite and so on aswell

[neon fjord]

Yeah, Annihilate is getting nerfed (Kinda, there are some situations it's better now). Iceburst is also getting nerfed bc that was too easily obtained and could 1-shot everything

[remote kraken]

keep in mind these are one shots with end game armor

[remote kraken]

i tried doing combos with iceburst why is it getting nerfed?

[neon fjord]

It's from one of the first bosses and can one shot all of the others including void

doesn't even take much effort

[remote kraken]

oh so iceburst in the hands of the boss one shots players?

[neon fjord]

No, players with iceburst can oneshot bosses

[remote kraken]

oh ok

[neon fjord]

Like Adam with 1000 health just crumples lol

[neon fjord]

What did you find with divine smite? (I ask bc I was planning on buffing it)

[remote kraken]

i cant remember the exact combo but i think it was 3 lightning strikes to max out shock then divine smite

[neon fjord]

Hmm, this is def intended to be strong

[compact totem]

Gonna end up with a damage cap to prevent oneshots?

or just tune down the chances it happen without other mods adding up?

[remote kraken]

btw with the combo you still have some extra slots left so might as well do another delay and smite to ensure the one shot

[neon fjord]

I'll probably add something like this to bosses. Also some sort of iframe protection mostly bc rage glove is a thing

[compact totem]

i mean, like "you can't take more than x damage in a timeframe"

more than just per hit

so you rule out rage glove

it simply allows to reach the cap

[remote kraken]

oh yeah domain is also easy to one shot with

do domain+ accel 3 + anihalate amp 4 and you got yourself a crazy domain right there

[neon fjord]

Yeah this is what I was gonna do. Moreso just meant that the iframe type things are more of a concern than someone with a 1000 damage sword or smth

[compact totem]

rageglove is not iframe related tho

[neon fjord]

That's also a post-endgame spell so I don't mind that being kinda ridiculous

[compact totem]

it's only tied to lightspeed attack speed

ramping up its damage by 1 for each damage attempt

or whatever it is the amount

[remote kraken]

well its still crazy to one shot anyone with said endgame armor

[compact totem]

you're dealing a ton with the final hit, not many small dmg bypassing the iframes

you could do like, REAL iframes instead of the current max(hits)

where only the first hit registers

[neon fjord]

ye, just forcibly making a cooldown between taking damage. (Not sure how the rage glove tracks it's accumulation so that may just let them stack it up and get a 1-shot the moment the CD is over)

[compact totem]

pretty sure that it lasts more than one sec otherwise it would be useless in vanilla 😛

[neon fjord]

Agreed, not quite sure how I'd balance this mostly bc Ars is very offense already. The armor would have to kinda ridiculous

[plucky pivot]

I'm gonna be honest I don't really see why you'd balance spells based around PvP. Modded PvP is insanely difficult to balance especially in a mod as intuitive as this. If you can make a busted spell with the tools you're given, you earned it

Instead of weakening spells to balance I'd just make the armor stronger or have some like bonus spell damage resistance on top of enchants

If you wanna get real spicy add another enchanted book like Spell Protection along with the blast and projectile or something

I'm of the camp "don't nerf existing stuff, buff the others." Especially with end/post end game content

[west flame]

well yes but its mulching bosses as well

giving an unfair advantage towards that single glyph

[pseudo rapids]

I have apotheosis and I use the annihilation glyph with a domain from Adams ars that hits faster, put it on a caster tome, so busted I one shot someone with a God set of armor while they were eating God apples, if that's not nerf worth Idk what is

[pure hollow]

Hey, I'm trying to figure out how to get Mage cloth. can anyone explain how? I think the only way is to kill wild mages but i cant seem to find any. Are they rare or am i overlooking some other way? Hard to find resources for this mod.

[edgy crystal]

i need help, whenever a mage spawn my game crashes under ticking entity

im playing in a server and it seems everyone is doing fine, its only me facing this crash

[placid lagoon]

@edgy crystal

:notepad_spiral: Log Sharing

Upload your log file to mclo.gs so that people can help easier, not everyone is on their PC all the time and having a easily formatted searchable link is much easier for debugging.

Where can I find my logs?

Go to your instance or .minecraft folder and upload the logs/latest.log file

How about crash reports?

Crash reports can be found in your instance or .minecraft folder under the crash-reports sub-folder. This is only made when a crash is registered, so if it doesn't exist that's fine.

Noticed a problem?

Please raise an issue with @flint salmon

[upbeat inlet]

If you got them, they'd probably help

[edgy crystal]

https://mclo.gs/LiH23KB

ive tried putting removeerroingentity to true, still doesnt work

[proven tiger]

Hello, everyone. Can you advise on how to improve armor? There are 24 pages of options, and none of them work. The only options are to use basic lightning armor with low mana or to improve it in the standard way with blazing rods, etc. However, in this case, there are no slots for threads.

[neon fjord]

#1235001538611511357 message hope this helps

[proven tiger]

I have already obtained all the necessary resources. When placing items on the enchanting apparatus according to the recipe from JEI, it says that the recipe is incorrect. For example, I cannot make lightning armor from tier 3 armor from the main mod. I also cannot improve the armor according to the recipe from JEI to increase the amount of mana.

I already gave myself lightning armor from creative, but I couldn't upgrade it.

[neon fjord]

Don't grab armor from creative. Also you have to upgrade to fire/ice/earth before lightning

[edgy crystal]

what does the randomly spawning mages drop?

[neon fjord]

mage cloth, it's only used to make the ritual of mage summon for summoning bosses

[edgy crystal]

you can make those no?

i need to turn off mage spawning because they keep crashing my game

[plucky pivot]

I don't think it can be crafted, I'd just cheat in a stack

[neon fjord]

Oh? Is that on the newest release version?

I know there was issues with them before

[edgy crystal]

yeah, ive sent a crash report above, hoping you could check it out

playing on a server, it seems that only i crashes, everyone else is fine

[neon fjord]

🤔 very unusual

Alright

pretty sure I have a diagnosis but not a solution

The list of mages is pulled from a database on github. If you can't access it I made sure to make seven "defaults" for offline use. For some reason the server is likely able to access this list but you can't so when the server accesses a mage beyond the seven defaults that causes you to crash

[neon fjord]

Under the config options there should be an option called "doComMages". Try turning that to false

[edgy crystal]

thx ill try it out

[proven tiger]

I know that first i need to make fire armor. But I couldn't craft it either. I'll send screenshots of how it all looks.

and the same situation occurs when trying to upgrade armor, none of the recipes work.

checked all 24 pages

[edgy crystal]

does mages spawn anywhere randomly? or is there certain spots

[knotty onyx]

Wall freeze aoe iceberg amp then it deals like 20k dmg

[remote kraken]

crazy

[remote kraken]

thats to upgrade the armor there should be another tab that gives you the creation instructions

[proven tiger]

The problem is that the recipes don't work in the other tab either. Can someone send me the recipes separately?

[neon fjord]

You should have a piece of ars armor upgraded to tier 3. Can you send what you're trying to upgrade?

[neon fjord]

Hmm, I can only assume theres something wierd going on since there doesn't appear to be a tier reading for the battle mage armor

[proven tiger]

Okay, I understand what was wrong with the crafting. But what about improving the armor? For example, the lightning chestplate.

[neon fjord]

I would also try putting the source closer

[neon fjord]

Fire -> Fire awakened (4 elemental souls + 4 netherite) -> Lightning (4 lightning souls + 4 mana diamonds)

[proven tiger]

What about these crafts for increasing mana?

[neon fjord]

I wouldnt look at any of the "Magic Armor Upgrade" recipes in JEI. I just forgot to remove them, all of the correct recipes are under the enchanting apparatus

[proven tiger]

ok, thank you very much

[edgy crystal]

after doing that, it seems like they stop spawning

or are they just that rare to find?

[west flame]

You could likely quickly fix that in a hot fix (1 year late

[full flower]

i can kill him np

[neon fjord]

They should be somewhat rare.

[plucky pivot]

Will Maho despawn after the player dies? Feels like it good potentially be a Not Great Thing to have a dude that inevitably becomes immune to all damage types if you try fighting him unprepared

[neon fjord]

Yes he does. Similar to bosses, they purposefully despawn when theres no players around

That's so A) they don't cause a bunch of unneeded damage to terrain
B) so people's gear isn't spawn camped and they can't just keep dying until they win

[west flame]

There's a c there as well

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-naoya-zenin-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-gif-11401179850835114298

[west flame]

Ayo what

Ooh idea
Gojo's blindfold: passively extends the time limitless is active (while it's as an effect) and also gives resistance while limitless is active

[spark ocean]

I am not that well versed in the spell making "meta" (?) so can you explain how iceburst can be so devastating?

[west flame]

Basically the spell has no iframes

And does 5.1 dmg per proc

Doing something like a lot of ice burst (likely with a ) lets you deal alot very very fast

[spark ocean]

With a shaper's focus? How does that affect it if I may ask?

[west flame]

I believe 3 aoe's is all you need to oneshot adam

[west flame]

So basically if you did the spell normally the ice burst will only trigger to where the spell was resolved. With a it now extends that to every ice block created

[spark ocean]

ooooh

I see I see

Okay thank you, that explains it!

[west flame]

Np
Do keep in mind the spell will be nerfed soon for balance reasons

[spark ocean]

Understandable if it is that strong, although burst is part of tier 3 book

But the rest is available early

makes sense its strong for when you can get a simpler version

[west flame]

Correct
Actually ice burst is technically past t3 as it requires a boss meant to be taken on at t3

There is also a t2 glyph called

Which is far different but still broken in its own way

[spark ocean]

Ahh fair fair. I fought all the bosses before t2 so far except Adam. I just had to jar him.

[west flame]

Respect

[spark ocean]

Thanks! I will say sometimes the AI went...dumb which helped a lot

[west flame]

Yea

[spark ocean]

I really like this mod and its extension of Plus and Elemental. Looking forward to more updates to it 👍

[west flame]

Hell yes

[spark ocean]

If there is one feedback I'd like to give is maybe to have some earlier new glyphs too? Most of the Plus content seems to be locked behind t3/The End. Might just be me tho!

[west flame]

Ah senate's offline I was going to ask him if the summon swords glyph was going to be t2
I def think it could

[spark ocean]

Would be pretty neat 👍

[west flame]

Indeed

[neon fjord]

Mmm, only pre-boss glyph is ten shadows and some augments iirc

[open cobalt]

when can we get ars plus on 1.21.1

[west flame]

Haha

[plucky pivot]

Actively in the works with a bunch of content additions. My guess would be 2026 probably?

[west flame]

Early to mid

Just don't expect a schedule to be kept

[open cobalt]

Sweet

[crimson talon]

@neon fjord srry for the ping but have you looked into the loot voiding thing for gravestones yet? dont rlly want to try to fight a boss with the risk of me losing my loot again

[neon fjord]

Hey Uber! From what I can tell it's because I didn't blacklist item entities from being targetted and so all of the item entities were "attacked"

[west flame]

Damm

[crimson talon]

i see so are you planning on removing that or keeping it as is?

[neon fjord]

Now for why the gravestone didn't work... I can only assume that was unfortunate timing

[crimson talon]

im guessing the gravestone got broken while in the domain

and the loot got voided

via him attacking it

[neon fjord]

I can definitely change this. It's not difficult to do

[neon fjord]

Yeah, what boss was it?

[crimson talon]

earth

[neon fjord]

Hmmm, yeah that's kinda just bad timing. He's not particularly destructive

[crimson talon]

he put me in that stun

then i got 1 tapped

while in his domain

[neon fjord]

Yeah, planning on changing the fights to be hopefully more fun

[crimson talon]

looking forward to it keep up the good work

[neon fjord]

🫡 Trying to, making all of these structure assets is taking me a while tho

[crimson talon]

wish you best of luck

[neon fjord]

#1235001538611511357 message Whenever everything on this list is moved from "To Do" to "Completed"

[woven yoke]

what is yall's favorite domain combination

[woven yoke]

how do i summon the ancient mage

[spark ocean]

What are like the best ways to use Annihilate and Divine Smite? Anyone got any fun combos with those?

[west flame]

Conjuration essence and a triune Elemental soul

[thorn hazel]

hello, can anybody explain this to me

is the item named differently now or something? i can't find a soul with that name

[west flame]

ah yea senate forgot to change those

you are looking for triune elemental souls

[thorn hazel]

got it, thank you

also: the randomly spawning mages are really annoying because they destroy things even with mob griefing off
is there a config option i'm missing? i had to resort to using a repeating command block to repeatedly kill them

[west flame]

you will need them to progress

how often are they spawning?

they should be rare as fuck

[thorn hazel]

well, i am playing on hard, so the spawn rates would be naturally higher, but i swear they spawn every night 😭 i'm in a create pack and it's really annoying for some of the farms and stuff i'm building

but rare or not they still wreak havoc on builds

[west flame]

they should be underground
weird

[thorn hazel]

yeah no they spawn aboveground also

[west flame]

stop stealing everyone's spawns

though this would be a good thing to test

[thorn hazel]

i'm trying to use a air essence with the tablet of summon mage but it isn't accepting my earth soul, am i misunderstanding what's required for an elemental soul

[west flame]

yea a triune elemental soul is made from the souls of the first three bosses

there should be a recipe

[thorn hazel]

ahh i see so you can't just use one

waiut

[thorn hazel]

what is an elemental soul now and what is a true elemental soul now
i know a triune soul is one of them but which is it, and which is the other

[west flame]

triune elemental

is one soul

[thorn hazel]

yeah i know but

is it used with the conjuration or abjuration essence
and what is the other soul

[west flame]

triune is for lightning and ancient

[thorn hazel]

i see

[west flame]

true elemental is for final
with abjuration

[thorn hazel]

got it, thanks

[west flame]

so air or conjuration is used with triune

[thorn hazel]

and air and conjuration essence both summon a different mage
i think i understand

[west flame]

correct

[thorn hazel]

full health, fighting the final mage when my screen freezes for 5 seconds and eventually shows me this

thank you powerscaling very cool

[west flame]

oh yea adam is a bit overpowered

he will be rebalanced

[thorn hazel]

i have max +1 enchants on everything and that was a one hit 😭

what's the current way to beat him

[west flame]

try this one on for size

[thorn hazel]

oh yeah i'm. probably supposed to be using magic

[west flame]

lol

[thorn hazel]

i've just been poking things with a netherite stick for upwards of ten minutes

ok

[west flame]

he has a domain that casts burst
in every single space

and that burst holds anniliate wich does 30 void dmg

*10 void dmg

[thorn hazel]

does he teleport towards players
i may just

encase the brazier in blocks and put down a deployer with a sword

and hide out like a thousand blocks away

[west flame]

bosses despawn if you get to far away

[thorn hazel]

i see

[west flame]

he will find you
also yes I think he tps

[thorn hazel]

dude fucking detonated my underground arena area so i don't think i can just loop around him with conveyors or portals 😭 ok i'll probably uhhh fill out my glyphs in the spell book with the stuff i have now and try that spell

[west flame]

yea he does that

if it doesnt work then remove an from ray and add it to

[thorn hazel]

got it

how many mages does the basic tablet ritual summon

i got six
so this is a viable way to get more scrolls

yea it seems to always be six

[west flame]

it is meant to be a positive loop

[thorn hazel]

awesomesauce

[thorn hazel]

oh is that spell tmg/neg
haven't installed those 🥀

just nouveau, elemental, and plus

[west flame]

Ah ok

So just more aoe and try to get a form that doesn't use projectile to avoid his limitless

[thorn hazel]

does that include arc and homing projectile

[west flame]

Likely
Ray is usually used to bypass their limitless

[thorn hazel]

can't apply any aoe to the forms i do have 😔

[west flame]

Well put it on burst then
More dmg

Oh right if the spell makes a ball of ice it'll need a

[thorn hazel]

why on earth is the durability loss so high
i just broke a netherite helmet from max

[west flame]

You should be getting the ars armor
It regens

[thorn hazel]

i'll just use an exp pump during the fight because i don't feel like doing all that for one fight

[neon fjord]

the intent is that you'd be using smth better than netherite lol

[thorn hazel]

pretty much all of the fights can be beaten with netherite, a few trapdoors, and patience
i'm using create's hyper experience from enchantment industry so i would need to afk overnight to get the levels required to enchant the ars gear

is this armor almost invisible or something or does it just blend in with my skin that well, incidentally

[neon fjord]

I would assume the latter.

[thorn hazel]

i see

[thorn hazel]

i feel like i'm missing something

is my setup incorrect
i have an arcane core under the apparatus there

[west flame]

Is your gear t3?

[thorn hazel]

i've never used ars armor, do i need to upgrade it first

[west flame]

Yes

[thorn hazel]

oh, and do i need to upgrade every step of the ars plus armor

[thorn hazel]

i c

[west flame]

Just the og armor

[thorn hazel]

thank God

[livid cobalt]

does anyone know how to fix the issue of recipes not appearing in the worn notebook and through jade 🥹

[west flame]

Hm

Oh do you have a mod like JEI?

[livid cobalt]

yep!

[west flame]

Well I think the recipes will appear there

[livid cobalt]

the ones for threads and such do not

they don't show up in the menu at all

[west flame]

ok thats fun and weird
senate isnt online so I dont wanna pi-
sike @neon fjord I think this is a known issue, do you have a fix?

[edgy crystal]

this mages are funny

when i look for them, they all seem to be missing

but when im doing something else, i get ambushed

[neon fjord]

🫄 no idea

[compact totem]

Usual Vminus suspect if it affect all ars and not just plus

[livid cobalt]

ooh it is affecting all of Ars! is there a “Vminus” fix

[compact totem]

kill it

[west flame]

Preferably before lays eggs

[compact totem]

it was installed as dependency of another mod, but it's likely that mod didn't even need it

as in all other scenarios, removing it didn't alter the modpack launch

[livid cobalt]

lol i just checked my modpack and vminus isn't installed :/ disabling plus brings back the other ars crafting recipes tho😓

i appreciate yalls input and time though :)

[compact totem]

well that's odd

[plucky pivot]

Maybe make a single player world and see if you can even cheat the items in? Corrupted install or something is my only guess

Also if you do @ then the mod name in JEI I know it will filter just that mod, I wonder if that would force it to show up

[edgy crystal]

does do com mages increase the type of mages spawn? or does it only give the already available mages extra spells?

[neon fjord]

yes

[edgy crystal]

sorry but yes to which one

[thorn hazel]

armor is different in jei for some reason

maybe because it doesn't take into account the t3 armor that it's based on somehow
idk

[neon fjord]

It's because the stats are based upon the tier which defaults to the "tier 1" version in JEI

[thorn hazel]

i tried this
seems good but i wish the glyph would be like frosted ice and melt with time

yeah this isn't hitting him regularly but when it does he just heals the damage

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[thorn hazel]

what, how you do beat him instead

[runic night]

can we get a void focus/bangle in the upcoming update? like how ars elemental got those to enhance glyph elements but for void

also does the void archmage armor buff void spells?

[edgy crystal]

is there a location where mages spawn more like the enchanted forest?

[runic night]

purely based on experience, large cave systems, just because it's dark and spacious i think

[edgy crystal]

how do i undye or redye the lighting armor to its original color?

[neon fjord]

Iirc gray is what I used as default

[edgy crystal]

alright thx

does looting work on mages

[neon fjord]

I’m ngl I’m not sure

[thorn hazel]

do i not understand how the upgrade system works or is this a bug

you guys said there wasn't a way to tier up ars plus armor so what is this here for

[west flame]

those are things senate forgot to take out

[neon fjord]

Tfw this mod was literally just supposed to be for a personal server and I expected maybe 100-200 downloads

[west flame]

lol

yea Catbuncle made cat's jewlery tweaks for the yesn't server and it now has almost 3k downloads

[thorn hazel]

wait i'm confused is this an actual armor upgrade or not 😭 this is showing actual stat gains

oh is this how the armor for the mages is done

that makes sense

[thorn hazel]

okay actually though how do people beat him
i have all the glyphs from TMG/NEG, elemental, basegame and all the glyphs i can unlock right now from plus
what is the strategy

[west flame]

currently as he is a little to hard to beat I reccommend cheese like containment jars or litterally anything with iceburst

[thorn hazel]

oh that's a thing?
any way to kill a mob in a containment jar or no

[west flame]

no but you can get his drops through drygmies

[thorn hazel]

hrmm i see

thank you

[west flame]

granted these methods will be patched out in the next update but with the tradeoff of the bosses being more uniform with their power scaling

[thorn hazel]

so what's the method, begin the ritual of containment and then summon him?

[west flame]

yea, follow the ritual's instructions, make sure there is nothing nearby (not even items), then activate and back off a bit

[thorn hazel]

gotcha

[neon fjord]

I never promised uniform scaling. Just glyph nerfs

[west flame]

..

though you are going to alter his domain to make it less laggy and a bit easier to survive right?
right?

[neon fjord]

I optimized Annihilate and open domains to be less laggy and annihilate got nerfed so by nature of that yeah

[west flame]

noice

cant wait

[neon fjord]

tldr annihilate now has no iframe skip but does void damage instead of magic

[west flame]

so it can still kill you in a second

isnt its base like 10 dmg

[neon fjord]

yeah

No that got changed

[west flame]

toooo

[neon fjord]

nevermind. It was 14 base and 8 per amp and now it's 10 base 2 per amp

[west flame]

good

there arent many ways of gaining max health

[neon fjord]

I was gonna add that to the armors I just couldn't figure out how to do it w/o bugging

[west flame]

interesting

[thorn hazel]

my first attempt caught an arrow 😭 this works tho thanks

[thorn hazel]

dare i ask if this has been implemented for the mages

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/to-be-hero-x-to-be-hero-x-nice-nice-to-be-hero-x-to-be-hero-x-nice-pose-nice-pose-gif-9433552676869199295

you know the answer

[thorn hazel]

oh this armor is actually super visually glitchy
it doesn't flash red when you take damage for example

[neon fjord]

oh?

[thorn hazel]

let me get a video

the hero armor has a separate thing where the top of your head turns grey when you move your cursor up and down in the inventory

yeah

also this sprite is like IDENTICAL to my skin so somebody's plagiarizing here

[runic night]

no but loot pinata from apotheosis works

scavenger too but I forgot which mod that enchantment is from

[crimson talon]

how do u get ancient soul

with air essence it summons kashimo

and i tried with conjuration it js summoned random mages

thats 2 triunes down the drain 🥀

[neon fjord]

Ancient uses Conjuration essence not Abjuration. Abjuration requires an awakened elemental soul

[crimson talon]

ohhh

[thorn hazel]

i'm confused by this description

if i amplify this twice is it (-x/3)^2 or 2*(-x/3)

[west flame]

its just -x/3

[thorn hazel]

amplifying the spell multiple times has no effect?

[west flame]

hm

miiight be broken

[thorn hazel]

no, i'm asking a question

is there an effect if you amplify it multiple times
and what is the equation for that

[neon fjord]

A*(-x/3) where A is amplifys

[thorn hazel]

thank you

[west flame]

ah

[neon fjord]

They don't know how limitless works

[west flame]

its kinda hypocritial as you are the creator of it

[neon fjord]

Thats why I'm the sad man in the corner

[runic night]

I’m ngl i never had much practical use for it when i played

tried out the combos but I usually default to high dmg

[crimson talon]

is domain not usable in survival

oh

it js needs a shit ton of mana and spell efficiency

nvm

cant even use anything with it

gotta change it in config ig

[neon fjord]

Domain should cost 1000 mana. Best armor gives 1400 mana without considering enchants / glyph mana / mana efficiency.
Should be very doable in survival, the high mana cost is a purposeful drawback

[west flame]

you will be getting 1000 mana easily and eventually
just moar glyphs

[thorn hazel]

yeah because the description is wrong

it's n*(-x/3) instead of (-x/3)^n where n is the number of amplify glyphs

[neon fjord]

"Augmenting with Amplify will multiply the velocity by: -X/3"
It's because the full equation is Velocity * (-X/3) * Amp
I just don't make reference to what more amplifies do just how the function changes when they're present

[thorn hazel]

this is exactly what i'm saying

this isn't a one time thing either there's a lot of poor wording in ars plus and even in ars nouveau in general
i get it though because this was supposed to be a oneoff thing for a friend server

[neon fjord]

I mean, part of the problem is balancing detail with not having a text box the size of your screen

[thorn hazel]

true lmao

[neon fjord]

Like I definitely could yap enough to do that. I just wanted to be concise with limitless and domain as I could and let people experiment to find the combinations of these things

[thorn hazel]

on the topic of limitless

is there a way to like, create a projectile spell with zero velocity as soon as it's cast

so it remains at the cast position

[neon fjord]

You can make it really slow but from what I can tell literal zero just dispels spell projectiles

[thorn hazel]

how slow
that might work for my purposes

[neon fjord]

As long as it isn't zero

[thorn hazel]

so it could very extremely slow without dispelling, i see
what is the method for that

[neon fjord]

Either you can use deaccelerate. Or something like: Burst -> Sensitive -> Limitless -> Amp -> Dampen

[thorn hazel]

this is a big edge case but i'm repeatedly encountering an issue where bulk use of limitless causes my game to freeze

video is uncut so skip ahead to see when it happens

unforunately i just so happen to need an array similar to this for what i'm doing so i encounter this all the time

and i don't get a crash report because technically my game never crashes
is there some way i can share a log of what's happening in a similar fashion

[neon fjord]

I'm ngl that's goofy enough idk if I really care to address it. Like if you want to crash your game via ars you can easily find ways

[thorn hazel]

big issue for railcannon makers

i'm not trying to make a lag machine lmao

[neon fjord]

What are you trying to make legitimately?

[thorn hazel]

let me see if i can find a video

hang on

ok i can't find the video i made in create 5 but

legitimately people are using limitless to accelerate CBC projectiles insanely fast

higher velocity = higher damage and penetration

i've done this before just never on a gimbal, which i'm now trying

[neon fjord]

lmao, since when has this been a thing

[thorn hazel]

couple years

it is uh

[west flame]

thats epic

[thorn hazel]

niche tech to be sure but interesting

you can actually accelerate the projectiles fast enough to break bedrock-tier blocks (except bedrock is hardcoded as unbreakable)

but anyways

yeah i'm encountering a big issue with the performance of this
normal spells don't have this issue

best i can figure is each of the limitless spells is stacking and affecting the other ones somehow

[neon fjord]

Hmmm, yeah idk. I don't know if there's smth I can do beyond putting a hard cap on how fast limitless can accelerate. But idk what that limit should really be since it would vary from user to user

[thorn hazel]

imo
the limit should be just enough to prevent buggy behavior and not stop like this from happening

[west flame]

you could hypothetically blacklist limitless from being castable on a spell turret

[thorn hazel]

because the entire progression line to get to this point is probably worth whatever you get from it as a reward

[west flame]

though i suppose its a nuclear option

[thorn hazel]

thing is i need to cast it from spell turrets because

[west flame]

ik

[thorn hazel]

i need to apply the spell in pairs to actually accelerate the projectile

negative number times a negative number

i'm currently just trying to get this to work for what i'm doing, which is frustrating because i know i've done it and it's putting up a fight all of a sudden 😭

[neon fjord]

Thats what dampen is for. (A * -X/3) * -1 = A * X/3

[thorn hazel]

real shit

okay

i might try runes

thanks

[neon fjord]

np

[west flame]

lol

[thorn hazel]

another thing

do you know if the uhh
amplify 2 and 3 glyphs from NEG/TMG are 2x and 3x amplify or 4x and 8x

[neon fjord]

I believe it's x2 and x3 with x4 and x9 mana cost but I can take a look

[thorn hazel]

awesome, ty

[neon fjord]

https://github.com/DerringersMods/TooManyGlyphs/blob/1.19.x/src/main/java/io/github/derringersmods/toomanyglyphs/common/glyphs/AugmentAmplifyTwo.java
Looks like it's x2 and x4 with x4 and x16 mana cost

[neon fjord]

Man got me looking up my addon now to see whats posted. Smh found a russian reupload

[west flame]

lol

but also oof

[neon fjord]

I'm ngl I actually find it kinda cool in a way

[west flame]

the limitless railcannon?
yea, Im just suprised it hasnt been brought up until now

[neon fjord]

No, the russian re upload

The railgun is just cool no kinda involved there

[west flame]

ah

[thorn hazel]

found it

[west flame]

holy railcannon batman

[wheat bison]

how do i upgrade my void archmage armour?

nvm im stupid i just didnt upgrade it with blazerods first

[wheat bison]

but still cant upgrade it past that

past this

[foggy zinc]

if u spawn the armor in its weak

[wild gull]

Hey, I have a question: why does the mages crash? And is there a solution other than disabling them? (Help! I want to play with a friend, but the game keeps crashing for him.)

[compact totem]

like, a client only crash?

it's weirder than a server crash because it means it's tied either to rendering or their pc just surrender at some point

[wild gull]

Any ideas?

[compact totem]

Could have any with the upload of their crashlog

[placid lagoon]

@wild gull

:notepad_spiral: Log Sharing

Upload your log file to mclo.gs so that people can help easier, not everyone is on their PC all the time and having a easily formatted searchable link is much easier for debugging.

Where can I find my logs?

Go to your instance or .minecraft folder and upload the logs/latest.log file

How about crash reports?

Crash reports can be found in your instance or .minecraft folder under the crash-reports sub-folder. This is only made when a crash is registered, so if it doesn't exist that's fine.

Noticed a problem?

Please raise an issue with @flint salmon

[wild gull]

https://mclo.gs/hwqsJ8F

[compact totem]

Umh, that's def a bug in Plus somehow

Unsure if Senate already fixed but the release waits for the big update or it's a new thing

It's a big downside of big updates, hotfixes get delayed a lot

[wild gull]

:l Okay, so what can I do in the meantime?

[neon fjord]

Yeah, I've seen this one before. Not sure if you'd know how I can fix this but it's because I made the randomized mage spells pull from an online github file. So if the server loads correctly but the client doesn't then when it pulls a randomized index higher than what the client sees as possible the client crashes. Can cause wierd things like only one player crashing and others having no issues

[neon fjord]

Go to your config and disable "doComMages"

[neon fjord]

#1235001538611511357 message
Make sure to start right from the base ars armors and upgrade your way up

[wild gull]

My game doesn't create a configuration file for the mod (or at least I can't find it).

[neon fjord]

If this is on a server you'd change the config for the server

[wild gull]

How can I do that?

[neon fjord]

Find the world file for your server (different server managers look different) and navigate here:

[wild gull]

thank you so much

By the way, sorry if my writing was weird, I actually speak Spanish and used Google Translate

[tame vine]

do you mind updateing to 1.21.1 neoforge

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-the-incredibles-well-get-there-gif-16300647

[tame vine]

thanks i want this in my modpack

[neon fjord]

I plan on making it, but I just have a lot that I need to get done first

[tame vine]

can you add the spell domain from feature reqests

[runic night]

can we get a void focus/bangle in the upcoming update? like the ones from ars elemental to enhance spells for void like annihilate

or does the void archmage armor already do dat

[edgy crystal]

never tried apotheosis, how does the mod work?

[runic night]

qol + higher lvl vanilla enchants + more enchants

there's a lot of stuff

gems and stuff too

but mostly quality of life and I guess a nice enhancement of vanilla

there’s also a world progression thingy where stuff gets stronger when u get stronger

[neon fjord]

Maybe in the future but for now, no

Ars Elemental / Elemancy alr exists so ideally the endgame would just be Void Armor with elemancy bangle + focus

[cedar flume]

hi, is there anyway of using limitless without the need of ars trinkets?

[potent stratus]

hey guys how dose one make a void star its not showing up in jei

[west flame]

you gotta kill adam

[cedar flume]

you need to do the mage ritual and throw awakened soul and pink essence

[potent stratus]

and how do i get either of those?

[west flame]

Abjuration

[west flame]

Pure elemental actually

[potent agate]

that would be amazing but unfortunately i dont believe there is

[neon fjord]

stay tuned... (It's being added)

[potent agate]

cant wait

[tame vine]

@neon fjord i found this when looking thew feature reqests take https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1424351610837926069

[neon fjord]

idk, I'm kinda putting a cap on what I'm adding. Mostly so I can actually get done

[edgy crystal]

whats the diffrence between normal flight/glide thread and cloudstep?

[west flame]

glide is an elitra
cloudstep is creative flight

[edgy crystal]

would lightning element or hero element respond to focus of air or and such from ars elemental?

[west flame]

The desc should tell you the schools if they exist
Glyphs of those types will interact with the bonuses

[tender skiff]

does anyone knoes what is the list of spells that the final boss uses?

[west flame]

The end goal Is the same:
All use annihilate

[tender skiff]

Yeah I know but I wanted to know all of the spells like his projectiles, his domain

every spell

[neon fjord]

Look on github

[tender skiff]

Where?

Can you send the link pls?

[neon fjord]

https://github.com/AdamRogres/AdamsArsPlus/blob/master/src/main/java/com/adamsmods/adamsarsplus/entities/custom/AdamEntity.java

[tender skiff]

Thx

[neon fjord]

If you want to dig around there you can see all of the hardcoded spells

[tender skiff]

Ok I was looking and I found everything but I can't find the projectile atack

[neon fjord]

sometimes I would store the spell in the goals. So check the casting goals

[tender skiff]

Ok I'm not realy familiar with programation and with github so where can I find the casting goals?

[cinder edge]

im trying to use a drygymy to get mage cloth but it doesnt seem to be working anyone know why or i beingimpatient

[west flame]

If it's too slow
Add more drygmy
How long have you been waiting?

[neon fjord]

To do list is getting short

[neon fjord]

Nows the time to ask for any config options people want. I have a couple in mind but if anyone has a request just lmk.

[plush perch]

Think it'd be nice if Six Eye's night vision was a client option. Maybe a way to toggle the magic find as well? Also, balance be damned, whether or not mana exhaustion can be inflicted, if possible. It made it harder to justify utilizing the Immortality thread honestly.

[plucky pivot]

Leap fatigue is for sure going to be controversial should probably have a config for that

[west flame]

I think there will be
Actually a good thought Senate is what is already being included?

[rustic fable]

finding mages is so difficult

[neon fjord]

• Leap Fatigue

• Do community mages

• Do griefing mages

• Do domain cooldown

• Do Mana Exhaustion

• Armor stats

• Boss stats

I’d have to check if there’s more

[west flame]

Noice

[tender skiff]

@neon fjord i was looking through the code but i cant find anything can you please tell me the boss moves.

[west flame]

Ooh lore pages to explain the bosses attacks?

[runic night]

when using six eyes, everything was glowing for other players too

[plush perch]

Yea since magic find applies glowing to all magical entities, which should show for everyone. Why I figured the ability to toggle it would be neat

[bitter charm]

I'm getting this error with Ars Plus and patchouli about the mod book not working? Version 4.0.2 from curseforge

[bitter charm]

Also the tablet of summon mages says “air or conjuration essence essence + elemental soul”, but the actual item is named triune soul? The pinned comment also says it’s triune soul

Same for “true elemental soul” when the item is named “awakened elemental soul”

[west flame]

Yea thats something Senate forgot to change

[grave hound]

hey guys, where do i find the wandering mages or whatever and how do i get the elemental souls

i was looking around in the worn notebook but to no avail

[neon fjord]

They spawn at night in the overworld. They're just somewhat rare

[grave hound]

i see, perhaps i am just unlucky

[bitter charm]

Randomly at night. Though for some reason I got jumped by a whole swarm of them at the border of a deep dark city

I had 3 wardens chasing me at that time, so… it was not a good time

[bitter charm]

For elemental souls, the terms the book uses is outdated

Elemental soul should be triune elemental soul. True elemental soul should be awakened elemental soul

Kill mages

• get mage cloth
• make mana diamonds
• craft mana diamonds and mage cloth together for summon mage tablet
• activate the ritual 3 times. 1 each with earth, fire, water essence. Beat those bosses for souls (bosses destroy terrain, fight far away from your stuff)
• combine earth, frost (water), flame (fire) souls using enchanting apparatus to get triune elemental soul
• ritual summon mage with triune soul + air essence. Beat the boss
• ritual summon mage with triune soul + conjuration essence. Beat the boss
• enchanting apparatus the two new lightning and ancient souls with earth, frost, flame, for awakened elemental soul

[rustic fable]

how do i make annihilate not hurt me?

[west flame]

That's the neat part
You dont

Well
Malum's soul ward should work

But outside of external mods you can't affect it

[rustic fable]

ok

[west flame]

Yea
If it's any consolation annilate will be nerfed next season

[stark pier]

hi, how can i do the flame armor?

[west flame]

Check your JEI of choice
Should have a recipe

[stark pier]

yeah its this one

[west flame]

Indeed

[stark pier]

but its saying there is no recipe

[west flame]

Try putting the pedestals a bit closer

Seems like the edges are just out of range

[west flame]

Oh
Is the armor piece that you are using to craft t3?
It's not is it?

[stark pier]

no, but in jei, its saying tier I

[west flame]

It lies

[stark pier]

Ahhhh

Okey, gonna try

thksss

[west flame]

It follows the same logic as the elemental armors

[stark pier]

for hero essence?

[west flame]

Indeed

[neon fjord]

Kinda nerfed

side-grade

If you played with apotheosis and had 100% magic resistance that version of annihilate was a joke

[west flame]

It doesn't one shit now so. Win in my book

[neon fjord]

For all of our pyromancers out there. New setbonus will finally let you burn the unburn-able

[plush perch]

Ooh. Curious then what makes it different from Elemental's fire focus? Is it like you can actually inflict burn DPS or...?

Or is it rather simply an alternative route to achieve a similar effect

[neon fjord]

After taking a look at the code of elemental the difference would be that this doesn't bypass the fire resistance potion effect but what it does do is make fire immune entities be able to be set on fire. In practice I don't think it's that different? Idk I really haven't used the fire focus much

[grave hound]

what is an ancient soul and what is it used for

nvm i understand it now

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understand-it-now-ok-i-understand-it-now-i-understand-it-gurm-bear-gif-4859748791707698675

[plush perch]

Oh, well it would still be useful to bypass the need for a fire focus in some cases? As long as it allows some of the abilities to proc, like Flare? Which is kinda what the mage fire effect enables, to my understanding.

I guess it wouldn't empower flame based spells like the focus does, but it'd still fill some gaps. Which is honestly cool

[grave hound]

i do NOT understand it, where do u get the ancient soul

never mind i do understand

[neon fjord]

Yeah flare would def work. The setbonus basically just gives you an aura in which the fire immunity on enemies basically just doesnt exist

so for example if you walked up to a zombie piglin floating in lava it would burst in flames

[plush perch]

Lmao ok yea that's pretty cool. Would it affect players under any conditions?

[neon fjord]

Not normally. if there was some cross mod item that granted fire immunity similar to how other entities are fire immune it would bypass that

[plush perch]

Yea I was thinking like that one fire immune belt from Artifacts for example

[neon fjord]

I'd have to check it's code but maybe?

[plush perch]

Or I think that was a ring? Dunno but stuff like that

It doesn't give the fire resistance potion effect it just makes you naturally immune to fire and lava

[grave hound]

do the threads scale with thread slot teir or not

[west flame]

Yea

It's kinda the whole point of putting them higher

[runic night]

pretty sure only the gliding, immortality & cloud step threads don’t scale

it’d be kinda broken to have that many lives tho

[neon fjord]

Anything that’s an “ability” doesn’t usually scale

[potent agate]

they might not scale but some of them have tier requirements to be used

[runic night]

all 3 of those do

[sullen sigil]

Has anyone successfully created an automated farm for Purple Essence that relies as little as possible on other mods? Also, are there any videos or guides available?

[west flame]

Purple essence?

[sullen sigil]

ah sry... Its ars trinket item...

[west flame]

Ah it's ok

[runic night]

i used create's smart chutes

and mechanical arms

[west flame]

Create is peak

[oblique furnace]

will a drygmy get a soul from elemental summon mages?

[west flame]

Yep

For now al

[oblique furnace]

thk u

[sullen sigil]

I'm thinking of using the Ice Beam everyone recommends to take down Adam, but won't it miss because he TP's? How do you guys handle it? I want to be fully prepared!

[west flame]

Basically he'll teleport if you get to far away so beam him the second he spawns in or try to bait it

[sullen sigil]

I'll have my friend hold the totem and die!

[west flame]

If your friend is ok with it ig...

[sullen sigil]

Is AoE still effective in 2? I want to save MP.

[west flame]

Aoe 2 you mean?

[sullen sigil]

yes

It's still a bit early...

[west flame]

Yea stick to normal aoe
2s are only when you need more but have no space

[sullen sigil]

ty! I'll use this guy as a decoy.

[west flame]

Tell him sorry in advance lol

[sullen sigil]

...?

what

[west flame]

Yup
This is why it's getting nerfed

[sullen sigil]

wow...

broken

[west flame]

Yup

It deals 5.4 dmg per block with zero iframes

Base

[neon fjord]

2000 hp btw lol

[west flame]

Yup

Tho it's interesting
I've found that you can't deal dmg more that 20 times a second

With most things

[neon fjord]

(Was getting too big to fit in my og message)

[west flame]

How the frick lol

[finite ingot]

Making progress to getting Void souls blah blah blah i need all the souls to spawn him blah blah
How do i spawn each of the special boss mages so i cam get the flame, frost, earth, lightnigh, and ancient souls

[west flame]

That's all in the description of the summon mage ritual

[finite ingot]

Doesn’t tell me how to do lightnight and ancient tho. Are they just the other essence?

If anyone answers, pls @ me im not staring at this

[west flame]

Same thing

[finite ingot]

Kindly. Pls answer the other question

[tender skiff]

when is this version gonna release?

[west flame]

It's in the description of the ritual of summon mage
Just like the elemental mages and Adam

[neon fjord]

When everything on the To Do list is done

[burnt stag]

How summon emperor archmage for void souls?

[west flame]

That is abjuration essence and the true elemental soul

[burnt stag]

thx

[neon fjord]

(To Do)

• Create 1.21 version

• Improve Boss AI to make fights more fun.

  • Ryan
  • Cade
  • Nick
  • Cam
  • Matt
  • Adam

• Improve JEI and Worn notebook documentation to make progression more clear.

  • Fix Armor JEI tier issues
  • Remove multiple armor "recipes"
  • Add Worn notebook pages for how to get Souls
  • Add Worn notebook page for how to get Mage Cloth
  • Add Worn notebook page for Enchanters Stopwatch
  • Add Worn notebook page for General's Wheel
  • Add Worn notebook page for Auto Turret
  • Add Worn notebook page for Mage Tomes
  • Add Worn notebook page for structures / eyes
  • Update Worn notebook page for Summon Mage Ritual
  • Fix Worn Notebook pages for armor to show recipe and add info on set bonuses

• Fix Entity Animation issues.

  • Mage
  • Mage Knight
  • Divine Dog
  • Nue
  • Rabbit Escape
  • Round Deer
  • Mahoraga

[zenith elk]

It seems there are few things left to finish...
Can we confirm that we'll have the mod next week? 🤔🤔

[neon fjord]

I make no promises

I'd like to wait for Eru to finish the new Armor models so idk how long that will take

[bitter charm]

MAHORAGA??

Me acting like Megumi will be flawless. The moment anything mildly inconveniences me, I’m summoning Mahoraga

[neon fjord]

Yuh, can’t wait to see the taming exploits

[west flame]

Finally I can roleplay as potential man

[neon fjord]

Honestly think a ten shadows play through could be fun

[west flame]

Lold

Check out this pic I took

"roses are red
My self esteem is ash
The sun has just performed
A world cutting slash"

[neon fjord]

Mo/jo

[west flame]

Wat

[runic night]

nah, he’d win

[compact totem]

You've been slashed in half like another -ojo

[west flame]

A/h

[neon fjord]

lowkey kinda thinking of just getting a 1.20.1 "pre-release" out and then add in the new art later once I have a more stable version since I'm sure people will find bugs.

[west flame]

That would work

-# plz plzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplz

[neon fjord]

Aight, well I can put smth like that out before the year is over

[west flame]

Best Christmas no cap

[neon fjord]

new years gift fr fr

[west flame]

Hell yes

[zenith elk]

It can't be, I don't have enough sticks to make a sword
With this treasure, I summon...

[west flame]

LOL

[bitter charm]

When I summon up a literal divine being to have him punch a tree for me. I’m too lazy to walk 5 blocks

[west flame]

Put the divine being to work

This is the ars way

[bitter charm]

Can I put Mahoraga in a jar to motivate all my other unpaid minions? If they don’t work hard enough, they go in the jar

[neon fjord]

Reminder to make Mahoraga adapt to jars

[west flame]

Yoooo

[bitter charm]

Imagine if Mahoraga waits to break out when you go to bed

[zenith elk]

Jars: Nah,i'd win

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/haruta-haruta-jjk-haruta-mahoraga-haruta-makora-makora-summon-gif-4473675668938835407

[bitter charm]

Instead of a text pop up saying “You can’t sleep because there’s monsters nearby”, it’s “You can’t sleep because Mahoraga’s looking for you.” Then a minute or so later if it doesn’t find you, it adapts and just teleports to you

[west flame]

"aren't you forgetting a loose end?"

[neon fjord]

I’m ngl I’m mean enough already lol

There’s a dungeon trap that sends you to the nether

[west flame]

Not enough

We want the users to suffer

[bitter charm]

Anyone arrogant enough to trap a god in a jar needs to get jumped

[umbral crescent]

does anyone know a good way of defeating the final boss adam </3

[neon fjord]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586361038015037451/1114778900975861874/skillissue.gif

[umbral crescent]

alr 😭

[neon fjord]

bait out the use of the domain and keep distance. Use up the projectile deflection with a cheap spell before using a high damage spell

[umbral crescent]

thank you <3 <3 <3 ima try

[sullen sigil]

Adam crasher

[runic night]

I tried putting the tormentor from arphex in one, server owner closed the server in time

[bitter charm]

Will Mahoraga have boss music?

[neon fjord]

Unless someone is going to make some for me. No

I’m not musically inclined at all

I could probably just use AI but people seem to hate AI more than they’d appreciate boss music

[bitter charm]

Could use the soundtrack from the anime

[neon fjord]

Idk, I feel like I’m already kinda pushing it on the whole IP thing

[bitter charm]

There have been non-official jjk games on Roblox and other sites that charge money and such for years. They haven’t been taken down. Though I’m not sure if that’s because the author doesn’t care, or if they don’t want the hassle of dealing with roblox

[still linden]

hey is the annihilate death message fixed in the new update?

[still linden]

theres also moral implications of using so much stuff from another ip, on top of the chance that not everyone would appreciate something like that

it would still be cool to see though

[wise plover]

There's a new update?

[still linden]

coming soon but yeah

pretty soon but no promises have been made

its looking really promising though

[neon fjord]

There will hopefully be a 1.20 “pre-release” before the year is over. Then once I have the new armor models and 1.21 version I’ll release the “full version” that will hopefully have a lot of bug fixes

[waxen crane]

Where can I find mages

[neon fjord]

Overworld in the dark

Just rare

[sullen sigil]

Recommended to search in the desert.
You can mass-produce drop items by bottling them as dry gummies.

[west flame]

that is the greatest autocorrected version of drygmies yet

[neon fjord]

Gonna be calling them dry gummies going forward

[sullen sigil]

lol

[west flame]

fr

[bitter charm]

As it turns out, making a domain with chain, then a bunch of lightning delay repeats was not a good idea. Taking advantage of the antidote item from relics mod reducing debuff durations by 80% to spam domains was also not a good idea. I gave my server a seizure

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[bitter charm]

Though I think the main issue is that the domain treats blocks as targets, so it was hitting every block with lightning, which then chained to every other block, for every single block

[neon fjord]

Idk what to say. Domain responsibly

[bitter charm]

In my defense that was my first ever domain. I’m using the newbie pass

[neon fjord]

man got access to domain and immediately choose violence

[bitter charm]

Well, it seemed like a great idea at the time. Especially considering my shock pendant item from artifacts mod, which makes me immune to lightning, which means I don’t even need extract. So I figured I would just cast infinite lightning on Adam. Then I tested it beforehand and… yeah no

Is there a config for domain? I need to ban chain so I don’t forget this lesson and repeat it again in the future

[neon fjord]

There should be config for all glyphs iirc

[bitter charm]

You know how enchanter’s mirror raises the duration of all glyphs in its inscribed spell? Does that work on domain?

Also enchanter’s horn casts the inscribed spell on me and all nearby entities. Can I combine that with decoy spam to have all my decoys domain spam lightning hell?

You know what? Imma test it

If I don’t update within 20 mins just assume my computer exploded

[neon fjord]

zamn

[neon fjord]

Just for future reference, I'm not ok'ing the bosses until I've beaten them in survival with the expected gear to have when facing them. So anyone who asks "How to beat _" shall be met with a 'skill issue'

[edgy crystal]

is there spell that increases pierce strenght? otherwise id like to suggest pierce 1-3

[bitter charm]

horn testing done. Only the user (or maybe players only) will be forced to cast the inscribed domain. Decoys won't cast it

[neon fjord]

I've considered it, it's just annoying to actually code so I've decided against it

[edgy crystal]

ddamn, alright then

[neon fjord]

yeah, sadly pierce isn't just a "stat" like a lot of other augments

projectiles check directly how many are present so I'd have to make a mixin for every projectile and even that wouldnt cover addons

[bitter charm]

It does not. No domain was cast

[runic night]

you should try this for fun, but in a dimension with nothing u want destroyed and make sure u can fly
projectile/missile > domain > open-domain > meteor > accelerate3 > pierce > pierce > explosion

u could add burst + sensitive but I don't recommend it

[neon fjord]

Literally only have the Adam boss rework and Mahoraga skin left before pre release 🎉

everything else should be ready

(Maybe upload to CF tomorrow if the texture is done)

[compact totem]

You could Mixin in the method that counts them and only do something if the arg is pierce

[bitter charm]

Does turning game rule mob griefing off stop bosses from cratering my world? I don’t want holes everywhere

Actually is there a setting for that in the Ars Plus configs? Because I don’t exactly want to turn all mob griefing off, since that’ll make creepers pointless. I just don’t want 50x50x50 craters

[faint dew]

We shall now demonstrate, Mild Collateral (Or Cookie Cruncher) to celebrate new years

[bitter charm]

They actually do look like cookies XD

Happy New Years!

[west flame]

lol

indeed

[sullen sigil]

Collect bosses

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-procrastinate-pencil-gif-3318690986319493831

The promised 2025 release

[gray steeple]

HOLY PEAK

[cold wraith]

A small question, getting bosses in contain jars how much source cost?

For example, Nicky the earthy boi

[gray steeple]

Should be the same amount of source

Like 10% I think?

Or wait no source

It’s free the first time per tablet

[cold wraith]

10% of the hp?

Im not really used to use Contain

[gray steeple]

10% of a source jar

[cold wraith]

How im suppose to do it then?