Ars Plus

[old arch]

but like, how do i craft it

jei is telling me that the reciipe crashed or somethiing

[neon fjord]

oh? you take the tier 3 base ars armors and throw it in the apparatus with 4 souls and 4 mana diamonds

then upgrade it to the awakened version with the triune elemental soul and 4 netherite.

tier 4 uses flame, frost, or earth souls and triune elemental souls. tier 5 uses lighting or ancient souls and awakened elemental souls. tier 6 uses void souls

[versed ruin]

So tier six is technically void element?

[neon fjord]

Ye

[versed ruin]

Sounds nice

Are there any visual changes to the armors as they go up a tier?

[neon fjord]

Armors look different but no diff between base and awakened

[versed ruin]

Are there any new Armor Threads in Ars Plus?

[toxic vessel]

does anyone know what spells the bosses use?

[neon fjord]

There are 6 new threads

[neon fjord]

The code is on GitHub if you want to look into it

[old arch]

yo

idk if this needs to be said but

there is an issue with swarm

er, the glyph that spawns meteors

when combined with Aura (from ars trinkets), it creates infinite entities

and though it might not really be your problem, perhaps having a restriction to prevent these 2 to be in the same spell would be a good idea

because it's a 2 glyph game crashing combo

techniically anyway

[neon fjord]

Hmmmmmm…

[old arch]

also

you are cheekyy lol

you added an iframe bypass

with iceburst

it just... ignores iframe

im not complaining tho

makes me dps seeking easier.

[neon fjord]

Lol, yeah I thought it could make some alternate iframe setups than just everything being harm cannons

[old arch]

the thing is

i just discovered it because

i triied to have a domain that is completely covered iin water

but sadly i couldn't figure out a way to get the inside of the domain to be filled with water

[neon fjord]

iirc I think I at least hint that it iframes in the spell description

[old arch]

ii didn't see iit

i just did it via combining with aura

also

holy shit aura got a massive BUFF

it was NOT casting this fast in my prevous playthrough

[neon fjord]

Aura truly is a form of all time

[old arch]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-dragon-ball-super-goku-goku-ultra-instinct-ui-gif-10017138207648182009

also

annihalate is funny

it works

but uh...

it's a biit... over tuned?

no

i meant, because of how it works

it's a bit weird

combining it with domain

and barrierless domain

and pierce

[neon fjord]

I probably could nerf it… but it’s an endgame reward intended to let you have your power fantasy ah spells

[old arch]

breaks the ground underneath (if done as a self spell)

so it hits once

and then you're good (if ur hitbox is small)

[neat iron]

I encountered a mage during regular gameplay, and was trapped in a blue ice block, not knowing what hit me until respawn.

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-kenjaku-tongue-shoulder-shrug-gif-22334079

[lone timber]

hey, how did you make that hollow purple spell?

the one that adam gave me backshots with

[lone timber]

it's a bit much for a spell that can bypass armor entirely and do that much damage

and once you get it, you kinda dont want to experiment with the other cool damage glyphs (that's a player choice, but still)

becuase you don't need anything else

make it more expensive (like an amp 3 expensive)?

[neon fjord]

Detonate -> a bunch of pierce -> burst -> sensitive -> annihilate -> burst -> annihilate

[neon fjord]

The intent was to make it expensive so I can def up the cost

[lone timber]

yippee!!!

[cobalt wraith]

How do I get the meteor swarm spell to work? I don’t seem to get it to work when I do projectile -> meteor swarm

[lone timber]

good sir, you must use a damage (or any other glyph) following a meteor swarm

proj -> meteor swarm doesn't work because it doesn't have anything to cast with the meteor

proj -> meteor -> lightning will summon a meteor that rains lightning

think of Meteor Swarm as more a medium/form, than a damage glyph by itself

^^

[cobalt wraith]

Oh, okay, thank you, I was confused, because the meteor spawned, and it did nothing, but this makes sense

I thought it would just explode everything and make a crater or something

[lone timber]

it's okay!

though, adding explosion in the mix will make that fun little spell!

[cobalt wraith]

Yeah, sounds good, I’ll try experimenting with it now that I know how it works, again, thank you! 😊

[flint hull]

were all the bossses intended to be easily captured by the containment ritual? like just put the two rituals side to side and activate both of them and its done, infinite souls from all bosses with a few drygmy

[flint hull]

gotta catch them all

[neon fjord]

poggers

they're intended to be smth to use your cool spells on. If yall want to farm I don't really mind

[lone timber]

why is matthew such a baddie

he's so majestic like oml

[neon fjord]

Lmao

[flint hull]

oh I meant more like because it needs a ton of souls from all Bosses to progress, and it kinda gets annoying if u do a ritual each time for a few souls

[hallow vigil]

Im having trouble figuring out how to upgrade past the usual ars nouveau armor, How do i progress?

[hallow vigil]

Ok so, i figured it out, But these mages just spawns so rarely. Its gonna take ages to get enough of the materials needed

[lone timber]

yeah, but you can always put them in a jar and get resources that way aswell

Also, i just found that that Filter Not Player - Annihilate works a LOT like having a destructive Aura from Trinkets

[alpine tinsel]

Anyone know if the random mages that spawn work in drygmy farms?

[alpine tinsel]

For anyone wondering, I just tested and yes it does!

[alpine tinsel]

Can anyone offer any advice on killing the mage bossed? I'm getting rekt every time

[neat iron]

You should probably use tags to remove them from drygmy's list, just like with wither.

[neat iron]

If you want easier farming, my datapack gives an alternative method of crafting the ritual, but you need Botania.

[alpine tinsel]

Anyone know why this wont work?

[compact totem]

uh, didn't know an Ars Sphax existed

[alpine tinsel]

it does indeed

not a fan of sphax but it has a tonne of mod integrations and it still looks better than vanilla lol

[compact totem]

back in the days Faithful had a lot of compats

Tinkers compat was my favourite

[alpine tinsel]

oh nice, didnt know that

[compact totem]

really changed ugly weapons into very pretty ones as it was changing the overlays of the upgrades

anyway, i don't know the armors he added but are you sure there aren't additional requirements?

[alpine tinsel]

Sphax has it too

[alpine tinsel]

according to the recipe just says 7000 source, but I have that 😒

[compact totem]

like the base armor being tier 3 first, like the elemental armors ask

[alpine tinsel]

ooooh

Thats probably it actually I didnt realise they had tiers

hmm according to this this should work :S

Unless JEI is wrong which is possible maybe?

hmm I'll try upgrading it anyway, thanks for the suggestion

[compact totem]

^

[alpine tinsel]

ah sweet

thanks man

[dapper jay]

i dont know if this is actually related to the glyph or its just the way base ars is coded, but an enchanters sword with annilihate does less annilihate damage when it does more melee damage, and more annihilate damage when it does less melee (weakness potions actually increase annihilate damage)

[neon fjord]

My assumption is that since the iframe bypass takes place after the damage and not before the damage from the sword is causing the spell not to damage

[dapper jay]

no they both happen its just that when one is larger(for example instead of a regular m1 its a crit) the other one goes down

[neon fjord]

Then I have no idea

[dapper jay]

hm

this actually makes weakness a buff

sorta

if it makes a difference im using that one mod with dummies to test it

the first picture is a regular m1 and the second is a crit

[compact totem]

the iframes don't cancel the damage

the second one basically deal the rest of the damage

if the total damage of annihilate is 20 for example

if the sword deals 10, the glyph deals 10

if the sword crits and deal 15, glyph only fills with 5

[dapper jay]

hmmm

why would that work like that

i mean i get why this is happening but i have no idea why it would even be a thing

[compact totem]

that's how it works in minecraft

[dapper jay]

wdym

[compact totem]

if you have a dot dealing 1 damage once in a while, then you get hit by a warden boom during the "damage window"

if the iframes were actually iframes, the damage of the warden would be negated

but instead, you simply take the highest of the two

the only reason why it's there is to cap the damage an entity can take in a small window of time

without it, you'd be dead asap you touch lava

[dapper jay]

isnt that just the iframes?

like lava doesnt bypass the iframes, thats it

[dapper jay]

no stuff like this

[compact totem]

https://www.reddit.com/r/technicalminecraft/comments/wokqu7/how_exactly_do_invincibility_frames_work_i_have_a/

[versed ruin]

If Annihilate does Magic Damage you can use it alongside the Hexing Glyph since Hexing does additional magic damage

[dapper jay]

can someone explain what open domain does?

except the obvious that it has no barrier, and targets blocks

can it target players?

[versed ruin]

Iirc it targets everything in the Domain Range (including yourself if you don't have sensitive)

[dapper jay]

wait what wasnt it extract to remove yourself from the targets

[neon fjord]

yeah it's extract

[lone timber]

is annihilate considered an Abjuration glyph?

[latent wraith]

I used to be mildly afraid of adding this to a server. Now I'm horrified XD

[winter token]

Im trying to get a lightning soul and i cant find online where the mob that drops it spawns, does anyone here know?

[primal lagoon]

You can get any mage by using ritual with tablet of mage (you use air essence for lightning) you can check description on tablet of mage for more detail

[winter token]

Ok sweet, thank you

[primal lagoon]

forgot to mention, you need fire water and earth for triune element soul because that is required for air essence

[winter token]

When i use the tablet it just summons the mages that drop the magic cloth, how do I get the ones that drop the souls?

[primal lagoon]

you need to place essence with/out soul on ritual with your tablet on it to summon specific mage according to your tablet's info.
For lightning mage, you need : one tablet of mage, one triune element soul, and one air essence then place all of these into your ritual. Be warned that any specific mage can be destructive and powerful.

for triune element soul, you need fire water and earth mages for their souls
in order to get these mage, you would do same thing
Fire Mage - one tablet, fire essence needed
Water Mage - One tablet, water essence needed
Earth mage - One tablet, Earth essence needed

does that help?

[winter token]

Gotcha, ok thats very helpful thank you

[primal lagoon]

anytime and if you are still not sure, lmk. I'll do my best to explain because my english is not that great

[winter token]

Much appreciated

[lone timber]

you know, I really thought that meteor shower spell would kill adam(s)

it did not

[winter token]

What about the mage that drops the ancient soul?

[primal lagoon]

you would need to use conjuration essence and triune elemental soul for that mage

[winter token]

I see, thank you

[lone timber]

Wouldn't it make more sense to make Limitless a persistent AOE "potion" effect (like Aura) that only targets entities? It would make limitless more applicable than using its "blue applications"

homing and projectile spells, along with seeker-type arrows basically negate the effects of Limitless if you have it off for a second, kinda making it... bad to use, considering how expensive it is

The only real application of it I've used with varying success is a *3 [Limitless] to deflect basic skeleton arrows

But... I dont know all too much about coding and how the Minecraft engine will handle it, but [Aura][Limitless] works amazing, so it couldn't be that bad

(limitless is such a cool concept for a glyph, but it's just not worth using without Trinkets rn)

[winter token]

Does anyone have good ideas for domain spells?

[lone timber]

snare+craft domain

[cobalt wraith]

Can you tell me what spell combo you used?

[latent wraith]

I am currently debating whether to allow both Ars Plus and Ars Trinkets on at the same time. On one hand, it would look fkin awesome. On the other, it's a kitchen sink pack, and the combination would be so powerful there would be absolutely no reason to use anything else, even with apotheosis

[versed ruin]

The only time when borderline OP mods should be allowed in kitchen sink packs it'd be when there are also mods that add mob difficulty in the pack (so that the gameplay is not completely one sided at the advantage of the players)

[latent wraith]

Any chance you know a difficulty mod that is on a player by player basis? Cos we periodically get new people...

[versed ruin]

Mob Auto Leveling
Majruz Difficulty

Or if you're up for suffering, L2 Hostility

[lone timber]

i'd recommend you uh... test it out in singleplayer first

[neon fjord]

ah yes. I also use pretty much this exact spell... but I use it to mine netherite

[cobalt wraith]

Okay, thank you! I will test it in a singleplayer world first 😊

[shell sluice]

How do I get a lightning soul?

Trying to unlock extended threads and stuff

[neat iron]

Beat a boss called matt, I believe. The ritual can be altered via offering.

[scenic trout]

What offering is needed? I cant for the life of me seem to find which item it is

[scenic trout]

just found it up in chat, need to add triune elemental lol

[cobalt wraith]

Anyone who knows why this doesn't work? It doesn't work for flame or earth either, I'm kinda stuck

[neon fjord]

Is the armor tier 3?

[scenic trout]

you should really put the armor upgrades and boss summons in the worn notebook

so many people coming here to figure it out lol

[neon fjord]

They are

[scenic trout]

guhh where

i searched everywhere and didnt find a single piece of documentation on items for boss summons

or t3 armor being needed

[neon fjord]

I’ll send ss

[scenic trout]

ohhh i saw the summon mage tablet one but it was unclear

coz nothing in game is called an “elemental soul”

just triune and the big 5 one i forgot the name of

[neon fjord]

yeah... thats mb for writing this before I finalized the item names

[scenic trout]

yeah idk about flame helm though i probs missed it

ill go check if i js have an old version or if im blind 1 sec

okay yeah i have the armor pages but i feel like they should be listed under this

i can only find them in the entry index thing

[scenic trout]

oh and one more thing that im like super confused abt: do you need to upgrade the first level of armor in the mod (flame/earth/frost) to get the awakened ones

coz im putting in flame armor with 4 triunes and 4 netherite and its not recognizing it as a recipe

[neon fjord]

hmm, that should work

[scenic trout]

this is also happening on jei for "magic armor upgrade" (not the flame-> awakened, the stat increase one)

magic armor upgrades in general seem to be kinda buggy lol

[neon fjord]

like it should go: tier 3 mages -> flame/frost/earth -> Awakened flame/frost/earth -> lightning/hero -> awakened lightning/hero -> void -> awakened void

[scenic trout]

it does but the recipes dont seem to function

[neon fjord]

I need to just remove the "magic armor upgrades". It's always the enchanting apparatus that shows correctly

[scenic trout]

this is probably the client crash for magic armor upgrades

if its of any use

[scenic trout]

yeah also the fact that the upgrades cost 4 netherite too 😭 🙏 it would just be better to go to the next tier like normal

[cobalt wraith]

I've tried both before and upgrading the armor, none of the armor upgrades seem to be working for me anymore

I'll try again

Maybe I'm dumb

I also have the JEI problem

[scenic trout]

testing rq if t3 armor does in fact upgrade properly

ok it does

upgrading to awakened is completely nonfunctional though

[cobalt wraith]

I got it to work as well, Idk why tho, reinstalled forge tho

[scenic trout]

ok @neon fjord i just tested flame->awakened, awakened->lightning, lightning->lightning awakened, none of the recipes work

im pretty sure every single armor up-enchant or whatever is broken past the first one

i think people just goof the first one bc they dont know you need t3 armor

[neon fjord]

hmmm they worked for me

[scenic trout]

lemme get a clip rq to make sure jei isnt lying to me

you can see for yourself

uuuuuhhhhhh

i just found something super weird okay

@neon fjord so when you grab the armor from the creative menu the recipes don't work... but if it goes straight from the apparatus into the next tier it works

im not sure what would make creative menu armor different from survival armor

i was gonna send the clip of me trying to go from base-flame-awaken-lightning-awaken and then it just WORKED when the creative menu armor wasnt working lol

[neon fjord]

it has to be the right tier

so grabbing it from creative doesn't work since it's tier 1

[scenic trout]

oh my goodness you can upgrade the mod armors like the base armors

i seee

[scenic trout]

okay

ill see if the armor upgrades work if it's t3??

this could be whats breaking everything lol

yup

just worked

[scenic trout]

so... tl;dr more documentation ig lol, mod doesnt seem to have any ACTUAL bugs its just that half the features are obscure

this has been immensely enlightening because i've been on an mp save and we are deeply confused as to why half the things in the mod didnt seem to work

[cobalt wraith]

Upgrading the awakened archmage void armor like that gave me only a tier 1 thread slot and nothing else, I don't think they are supposed to be upgraded?

[shrewd smelt]

hello, where do i get mage cloth

?

[cobalt wraith]

Mages spawn randomly throughout the world at night, they drop mage cloth

[old arch]

maybe make them spawn more in archwood forests?

[young field]

Is there a guide for armor tiers 1-6?

[safe nacelle]

Hey, so how do I summon a boss cuz I've been summoning mages, killing them all but I don't get any elemental souls?

nevermind guys i figured it out

[tawny plank]

how rarely do they spawn? ive gone a long while now without seeing a single one of them

[cobalt wraith]

They are quite rare, however, I know that a lot spawn inside deep dark and on mushroom islands. This is due to them actually spawning there and being the only hostile mob being able to spawn. So that’s an easy way if you want to cheese it

[tawny plank]

ah okay thanks, im playing this in a very big modpack, so the absolute insane amounts of mobs spawning probably doesnt help either

[shrewd smelt]

Hi, anyone know a setup and combo to hit kill adam? He is pretty hard to kill

[graceful kiln]

airsword works great

Hey, is it possible to recreate adams hollow purple? I think he uses some version of annihilate but cant figure it out

[neon fjord]

Sadly no since I used burst twice

[graceful kiln]

Ah ok, thanks anyways

[neon fjord]

Yeah, you can make smth similar but that exact spell is impossible in survival

[graceful kiln]

How tho? I already have a lot of trinkets and wither farm. Also can I modify mods config to allow 2 bursts? I found your recipe in previous messages

[full flower]

i could reccomend perhaps to make it as a spellbook like the findable books in ars elemental

[neon fjord]

sure, I could make recipes for them when I decide to do another update

[graceful kiln]

Also can i make limitless stop arrows? And how to do it

[latent wraith]

Yes. VERY good timing, cos it's not a field or wall, it's just an invisible pulse

[buoyant trail]

duplicate spell. you can see it exists already in the base mod on the top right, my m ouse ont he bottom left

[neon fjord]

I couldnt find a way to hide it but I needed a duplicate that was slightly different so that it was usable by mobs

[buoyant trail]

oof

[neat iron]

Maybe use a color inverted texture/border to signify the difference?

[buoyant trail]

feel liek there should be a way to just hide it, its all code afterall

[buoyant trail]

I uhhhhh.... made a spell that may corrupt your save... and/or crash you.

might wana fix that

or it at least significantly slows down the world to where entities cannot move or update their states and you cannot do anything except walk around in seemingly frozen time.

[buoyant trail]

ah. its the open barrior glyph

its just that

that is making the entire game lag to hell

cuz the spell works fine without it

@neon fjord

[neon fjord]

Yeah it's an inherently dangerous glyph. It's the same as using sensitive with burst. There isn't really much I can do besides reccomend to be careful

[buoyant trail]

how do you use it without it straight up crashing the game?

im also getting some errors on boot

one of them is yours i think

[wooden haven]

Is this being updated to 1.21?

[strong sparrow]

Hello! I'm looking on how to summon the Emperor Archmage from the Adam's Ars Plus addon can someone enlighten me?
For Void Souls

[strong sparrow]

Figured it out awakened soul and abjuration

[neon fjord]

I was probably just going to wait for 1.22

[buoyant trail]

um so...?

should I just disable this glyph or is there a correct way to use it?

@neon fjord

[little nebula]

How do u summon the bosses to get the star things?

[latent wraith]

Kill random evil mages > summon mage tablet > use an elemental essence on the brazier before activate

[little nebula]

Thank you just added this on new world and was super confused

[little nebula]

Are the armors worth it, I went into creative mode to test trying to rank up the modded armor but it would glitch out to tier 1 again

should I just use the elemental armor instead or is there a work around?

[neon fjord]

Yeah, it will work if you craft them. The creative versions are always the tier 1 versions

[little nebula]

Oh ok thanks

Should I in my survival world try to get up to the void awakened or are they all similar in there buffs

Like can I just go to lightning or whatever?

[neon fjord]

Void is def the best but it’s up to you

Id just craft them in creative if you want to see the complete versions

[little nebula]

Do they give buffs like Ars elemental armor? Like does the lightning give buff to air damage and reduction in mana cost

[neon fjord]

Not right now no. I may add it in the future but rn they just give way higher stat buffs and higher thread slots

[latent wraith]

Unless you are fighting apotheosis or cataclysm bosses, even basic + elemental will wipe the floor with anything due to being able to do so much so quickly. Reactive heal/shield, shooting, walls, debuffs. There's very little way to actually go wrong in ars. Except for making so much visual doodoo your GPU explodes. That's a very real danger.

So pick whichever theme suits your style tbh

[hexed relic]

but these recipes dont work!

(for the armors)

[vital vortex]

I've been having trouble trying to craft the armors too
Anyone figured that out yet?

[vital vortex]

Wait, found how it works (I think)

At least that's how it works for crafting them, not sure if there's any way to tier upgrade them

[neat iron]

You don't. There is an awakened version of said armor however.

[vital vortex]

I see

[strong oriole]

When I crafted the earth helmet, it spawned as tier 1 with no tier 3, how do i make it tier 3? or is smth wrong

[vital vortex]

They don't have tier upgrades, just the regular and awakened forms

[mighty marsh]

How to summon a void mage

or how to get the void soul

[latent wraith]

You need to summon and beat every boss leading up to it by throwing an essence into the ritual fire before activating the ritual

Then craft the element soul and throw that on with an abjuration ess as well

[mighty marsh]

Thanks

[mighty marsh]

Dam this air mage is difficult

[latent wraith]

Wait until one of the bosses literally uses Malevolent Kitchen

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-fight-jujutsu-kaisen-fight-jjk-blueray-gif-6504871374094424722

[mighty marsh]

💀

dam

Need to get op stuff

[latent wraith]

He is not immune to Harm Canon outright, but he DOES know how to use limitless...

[mighty marsh]

does snare just stop player/entity wherever they are?

What if you did domain, snare, open domain or something

will you become inumaki or is that not how it works lol

Wait I might be cooking

[latent wraith]

Inimaki does alot more than stop ppl but yes, i think snare works on projectiles. Limitless definitely does.

[latent wraith]

Ps, there's no reason to fight FAIR. Fill the area with runes beforehand. Build iron golems. Summon them in the middle of an ancient city...

[mighty marsh]

Yeah but you ofc cant do what he can with Ars it would be too complicated

[mighty marsh]

Some issue is happening on my server with this mod man

It is trying to register an item at the same time as Ars nouveau with the same IDs and jei can't handle that

idk why that even happened

I summoned the wither and as soon as I used an Epic fight ability it stopped the server lol

[neon fjord]

Hmmm, I’ve never had that happen

[mighty marsh]

Really strange

I will probably make this easy by reverting to a backup

for now

[neon fjord]

Epic fight might be it. I’ve never tested with it but I know it can be weird

[mighty marsh]

idk how to read these extremely long crash reports

and I don't want to learn lol

so I just gave it to ChatGPT and that is what it told me

[neon fjord]

Lmao

[mighty marsh]

I am having trouble trusting GPT on this one because it gave different answers for the original crash and the crash that happened when I tried to rejoin

So yeah gonna have to move to a backup for now

[frosty nacelle]

Put it into mclo.gs

[mighty marsh]

Yeah I did

[frosty nacelle]

Send link here

[mighty marsh]

But there were so many red text stuffs that I said screw this and threw it at chatgpt

[mighty marsh]

I would but I have given up and closed the pc lol

[frosty nacelle]

Rule #1 chatgpt is dumber than a crayon

[mighty marsh]

Yk whats funnier

I couldn't upload the crash to Chatgpt because "Unable to upload crash-report-263974827. Try again"

So I went over to my trusty Chinese gpt, Deepseek

And it pointed all guns at Adam's Ars Plus XD

[frosty nacelle]

ffs

you're supposed to upload the latest.log file

[mighty marsh]

whats that mean

[mighty marsh]

Oh

good to know :)

[tepid spear]

how strong are the bosses

like how much chould i prepare

[latent wraith]

The final one has 1k hp. Capable to soloing multiple wardens. Has both armor and protection. Can catch projectiles, including spells, using limitless. Can teleport. Literally disintegrated a hill...

[graceful kiln]

Couldn't catch my airsword Gatling

[frosty nacelle]

yeah you couldn't catch a 9mm bullet in real life but that's more fair than using trinkets

[full flower]

airsword is just unfair lmfao, i omne shotted a lot of my fellow smp "friends"

who refused to use ars and one of them LMFAO uses and claims that iron's is better

i sent him to heaven

[latent wraith]

I sent someone to the moon with snare > Starlight Swarm XD

[full flower]

Deserved honestly

[random pebble]

irons is a useful tool

[latent wraith]

It's also got some wiiiierd interactions. Some spells(not just the ones that you'd think, like the flame slash) appear to apply your weapon enchants. Not too weird on normal enchants, like fortune. But when your magic laser applies your apotheosis affixes resulting in you being able to rapid fire boss killing shots at semiautomatic rates...

[latent wraith]

If you reeealy wanna flex, use a burst dispel when he has shadow veil up. It's considered horrifically op, since it makes you invincible while it's up...

[mighty marsh]

The recipe for flame helmet isn't working for me

Ars version is 4.12.6 on 1.20.1

And Ars plus is 4.0.2

I have 4 mana diamonds and 4 flame souls on the pedestals and when I insert the sorcerer's collar, it says recipe not found

I have a full jar of sauce next to it

I don't think there is any interference from other pedestals (no other machines next to it)

Nvm sorry

I read in the chat above it requires tier 3

[steady jacinth]

is there supposed to be a config file?

we wanted to adjust some glyph costs for a modpack but when we got to ars plus we werent able to change it

[neon fjord]

I’ll make one for the next update but sadly there isn’t one setup right now

[light willow]

Hey just wanted to ask, I did what I found in the worn book, aka make the mage ritual and them summon it but when I killed everything that it summoned I just keep getting the mages cloth. I did the ritual multiple times with bunch of luck (looting) spells and I even farmed them with drygmies for some time and all I keep getting is the mages cloth. Also how do I get the spirits such as earth spirit, lightning spirit etc. I cant seem to find it anywhere how to get hem

I found it now should have looked a little harder in the chat 😄

btw drygmies make it so much easier to farm I love them

[wooden haven]

Drygmys is what separates early and mid game for me

[mighty marsh]

That means I never advanced from early game lmao

Also Mr.Stand proud

Thank you so much for this mod

I love the bosses man

They put up a real fight

Thanksss <3

[light willow]

How do I get the lightning, ancient soul because I tried putting all of the types of essences when doing the ritual but out of all only 3 different bosses spawned

Ive successfully farmed them now but idk how to get the rest

ohhh I see I guess I put them together and throw the tripple essence into the ritual

but still how do I get the ancient

ok so I was wrong about the lightning one and so I dont know how to get the lightning and ancient one... help please

Ok after some trying in cretive I found how to do it

any fixes for this tho?

[mighty marsh]

Stand proud kun, idk if the new versions have better docs but you gotta up ur docs game if not lol

[mighty marsh]

I don't think?

[light willow]

Do you have this problem too?

[mighty marsh]

Yeah

I haven't made them yet but I am planning to later so I will tell how it went in this chat

[light willow]

thanks

I appreciate the help

also do you have a good method for farming netherite?

[mighty marsh]

If you have allthemodium, I recommend going to the mining dimension

[light willow]

I believe I do

[mighty marsh]

If not then you can do a ritual of scrying, augment it with 1 ancient debris and 1 manipulation essence(makes 15 minutes total duration) and you will basically get xray for ancient debris

[mighty marsh]

Instead of making stuff with allthemodium, use it to make a teleport pad which will tp u to the mining dimension, where you can use a jar of voiding(for turning cobbled deepslate to mana) and spam some big aoe mining spells to find allthemodium and ancient debris

[light willow]

ok, will do thanks

I need to find the allthemodium to create the pad or dont I?

[mighty marsh]

Yeah 1 ingot would be enough

Are you playing on a pack?

Like atm10?

[light willow]

unfortunately not cause my pc cant handle it so I made my own

with like 70 mods

[mighty marsh]

kk same lol

[light willow]

😄

[mighty marsh]

Then you also probably don't have the charm that allows you to find allthemodium easily

[light willow]

no

[mighty marsh]

Oh

[light willow]

I could add the mod that has it inside

[mighty marsh]

Then you can decide if you want to do that

Alr byee

[light willow]

sure what is the name of the mod

[wicked latch]

I need help with the Ars Addon "Adam's ars Plus" mod, Im currently playing the "Medieval MC 4" Modpack and I've stumbled across a Item called "flame soul", does anybody know how I'm supposed to get that Item? Is it supposed to be mined or something, and if yes where the f do I need to go?
been looking for reddit posts but with no success

The Worn Notebook doesn't tell me where I'm able to get the souls

[mighty marsh]

It should be in rituals> summon mage

Make a ritual brazier and a tablet of summon mage using the mage cloth you get from common mages

Augment the ritual with fire/water/earth essence for their respective mages

For air and conjuration mage (they drop lightning and ancient soul) you have to add a triune soul made from flame, frost and earth souls from the earlier mages

[mighty marsh]

pro tip : They are strong af

And ig the abjuration mage is gojo himself and drops void soul lol

[mighty marsh]

For abjuration mage you need to add a true elemental soul made from all other souls

[wicked latch]

thanks

Do the mages that spawn randomely also drop Souls or is it only when I augment them?

[mighty marsh]

Nope, only the ones you summon using augments

The naturals drop mage cloth that you use to make the tablet of summon mage

[zinc estuary]

i've got the problem, i trying to upgrade void archmage awakened armour from lvl 3 to lvl 4, using infinite source, and trium souls, but it doesnt work, what can be the problem?

[mighty marsh]

The other pedestals might be interfering

Can't really tell the issue tbh

[neon fjord]

Awakened just uses more void souls iirc

[zinc estuary]

and second question, is this possible to make Limitless effect last lobnger than one moment?

[neon fjord]

I may add an extend time augment later but rn you have to use linger/aura or something

Issue is that it would be very laggy if I used my current method

[wicked latch]

am I doing anything wrong?

[mighty marsh]

Is the armour you are putting in, tier 3?

Also source jars MIGHT be out of range

It doesn't seem to be the problem because it is giving a recipe error and not asking for source

[latent wraith]

Whatever your current method is, I use it to suspend mobs in midair via launch and then the 'Blue' function. I don't know if that's supposed to happen, but I love it. By suspend, I mean they just literally DO NOT come down XD

Might just be easier to split it into 2 via sensitive/extract? One just makes the player immune to projectiles for a while(and maybe melee?), the other does the current limitless. I'm pretty sure what most ppl actually mean to say is they want limitless to give gojo invincibility

[neon fjord]

Yeah, if I end up making it I’ll use extend time.

I just gave up when I initially tried but that was way back when I first was making it tbf. I could probably figure something out this time

[latent wraith]

Good luck

[latent wraith]

Anyway, anyone know the mod Immersive Melodies? The mod that let's mobs play instruments? Imagine a bunch of skeletons floating just out of reach and playing spooky scary skeletons on the trumpet on loop.

[ocean glacier]

hey all, as someone who has friends begging to run an Ars Nouveau server yet never touched it myself, is Ars Plus a good idea to have for balanced server combat

[neon fjord]

Depends on what you mean by balanced. The mod by design raises the power level possible by quite a bit. But hey, if everyone has the same tools I suppose you could call that balanced?

[ocean glacier]

haha that's fair. I think there are some folks who might not get into it. but at a first glance it seems like a lot of glyphs have really powerful effects, like creative flight and meteor swarm. plus huge power-scaling with armor

how hard is it to actually get the "Soul" items to reach most of these features?

I plan for there to be some cool modded monsters to fight, but will these make them mostly trivial?

[neon fjord]

You have to beat bosses for all of them. Their pretty strong by Ars standards but you can cheese them bc it's minecraft and it's pretty hard to make smth uncheeseable.

The truly broken stuff is locked behind the final boss which imo is a pretty tough fight. Not to mention it is a bit of a grind so I wouldn't worry about them getting that stuff too fast anyways

If you know what other mods you're using I can kinda help give a better idea though

[ocean glacier]

ohh interesting 👀 if it's an actual process to master and work your way up to these higher levels I won't mind that as much

I was mostly worried that it would be somewhat easy to get to the god-tiers and then the monsters would be trivial

[neon fjord]

mhm, there's an order or "tiers" you have to go through

[neon fjord]

Again, idk the monsters so I can't say but once they reach the final tier of stuff they will def be very strong

[ocean glacier]

hm my modlist is a bit insane lol, but in terms of bosses some standouts are Mowzie's Mobs, Ice and Fire, Legendary Monsters, etc.

and Bosses of Mass Destruction

[neon fjord]

Not familiar with all of them but from a quick look it would make all of those enemies trivial But you can't even get the gear until later in minecraft progression than you would even fight them. So by the time you get the op stuff you should've already fought them

all this should do is just add later game gear/bosses

[ocean glacier]

ohh okay so realistically the Ars Plus stuff IS the late late gear and bosses stuff

[neon fjord]

that's what it would be with that set of mods yes

[ocean glacier]

it's okay if you don't have time to get into it, but how does the progression work with the mages and souls and such?

[wicked latch]

Yo, don't wanna mess up your conversation but how am I supposed to get Void Souls?

Im kinda at a Dead end

[ocean glacier]

you have to summon them right? Is there a fail state if you can't get a leg over them?

[neon fjord]

Well, I'll just answer you both at once lol

[wicked latch]

and ye the Mages are pretty strong :)

[neon fjord]

They despawn after a while

Progression is basically:
Basic mages spawn in the dark and have a 50% chance of dropping "mage cloth"

You craft a tablet of mage summoning using the mage cloth, this is used to summon normal mages and if you augment the ritual with essences you get the bosses.

Fire, water, and earth essence summon the first and easiest tier of enemy.

After you've beaten all of those bosses you can make a "triune soul" using fire, water, and earth souls (drops from the bosses)

Then you can use air and conjuration essences in addition to a triune soul to summon the second tier of bosses.

Use the lightning and ancient souls along with the fire/water/earth souls to make an awakened soul.

Then use an awakened soul and abjuration essence to summon the last boss that drops void souls which are used for the strongest gear.

You also need tier 3 armor from the base ars mod in order to craft the higher tier armors which needs you to have access to the end.

[ocean glacier]

dang my Ars friends are gonna be drooling over this, it sounds terrifying to me lolll

[neon fjord]

love to hear it

also, the spells used by the mages are similar to the custom starbuncles so if you or your friends ever want a custom mage just lmk and I can add it.

[ocean glacier]

I had an idea to use another mod and make it so that wearing most Ars Nouveau robes will make you unable to deal damage with weapons anymore, so that anyone who goes the "fighter" route don't feel as overshadowed. maybe that would also help manage progression pace and/or make my wizards rely on our fighter types?

[ocean glacier]

oh shoot good to know

[wicked latch]

Is there any way for me to compete with Ice and Fire, somehow I don't deal any damage to friends that have Dragonsteel Armor

but I gotta say, this addon slaps, pretty sick progression route

[neon fjord]

Well, short answer is yes.
A) Void armor is equivalent to the dragonsteel armor.
B) Iceburst and Annihilate can both be used for high damage spells so I'd reccomend testing those

[wicked latch]

do I just stack Amplify on them or is there a better way to combine the spells?

[neon fjord]

Hmmm, I'll leave that to you to figure out. 😉 But I promise the combos exist

[wicked latch]

I probably just suck when it comes to figuring out combos

[wicked latch]

ight, will do

thanks king o7

[neon fjord]

Hmm, not sure what I'd recommend but my biggest suggestion is to include something like Apotheosis so that weapons have a higher power ceiling

[fossil fulcrum]

Hey, i wanted to ask, what is the domain combination the void boss uses for the opening? And any suggestions to how to counter it (i ended up just using a ring to give me mad absorpion but would be cool to make it more epic fight)

[mighty marsh]

Just run away and get out of the range maybe, tanking it is pretty useless tbh

Oh void boss

[fossil fulcrum]

the archmage one i mean

[mighty marsh]

Yeah his domain is huge and I think he uses open barrier or something

[fossil fulcrum]

I think so to, cause i tried using my own domain but it didnt do much, he just onatapped me

I just asked cause i liked the spell a lot and wanted to know what it was. And found a way to just tank it with a ring and a spell i think may be bugged or something

[mighty marsh]

Ohh

Well yk what I was doing

Its pretty funny

There is a spell called https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1356607074632732873

It creates clones of you that have orbit around them

If something touches the orbit, more clones are made with more orbits but these orbits create lightning

it basically summons clone which summons lightning and vice versa

[fossil fulcrum]

thats sounds so good

[mighty marsh]

The mage guy starts running after the clone and starts getting damaged by lightning while I watch from a few chunks away

And I summon more spells closer to him than me lol

That way he runs over to the clones

But either way what happened was I thought I was safe and started eating bread, when I looked up he came flying and one tapped me 💀

The actual fight was way funnier btw, felt like an episode of tom and jerry ifyk lol

[mighty marsh]

It is an expensive but good spell

1000 mana per cast

Harm canon is way better dmg/mana but it doesn't work because of the infinity in Ars plus mages which simulmancer's smite bypasses

[hexed relic]

Catch him in a jar :3c

[mighty marsh]

Why tho

I don't think he drops anything from jars so wouldn't be beneficial

[hexed relic]

He'll boost rates. I always catch several mobs that have no loot. Starbuncle, Wixie, whirlisprig.. Bee, Allay, Axolotl..

Etc

Then I stick a high exp mob with no drops (wither)

And then what ever mob I need for loot at the time

Saves on storage problems, which inevitably arise with drygmies

[mighty marsh]

Only three ways to capture lol

1. Do the ritual as he summons in
2. Do the ritual and summon a clone on the opposite side (so basically the guy, ritual in middle and the on other side a clone) he will get caught while running oiver to the clone
3. Do the ritual and wait inside the area until he jumps at you gets trapped (u die)

[modest lark]

yo um

im trinna craft this

but it doesnt work

is it because of the source requirement?

[hexed relic]

If it wants source plop a jar down

[hexed relic]

Ya I caught the by grabbing as soon as they summoned in :b

Them*

[warm lagoon]

can you guys help me understand how to summon the other mages? i can get the fire water and earth but i just dont get how to get the others

[mighty marsh]

For lightning/air mage, throw an air essence and triune soul (made using the fire, water and earth souls), for conjuration do the same but use conjuration essense instead of air essence

For the last boss, you need the conjuration essence and a true elemental soul made from the other 5 souls

[warm lagoon]

Thanks

Just wasnt clicking for some reason..

[earnest tulip]

Is there a way to find the basic mages ? ive been running around the map but can’t find any

[mighty marsh]

They spawn at night with the other mobs

If it is difficult to find them, make a tablet of summon mage with the first 2 mage cloth you get that drop from mages

[earnest tulip]

ty !

[wraith hollow]

.

[near blaze]

At what point or how do you kill archmage Adam me and my friends don’t stand a chance against this guy is there a gimmick or a strategy we are missing

[neon fjord]

~Skill issue~ Iceburst is a great dps glyph and using mobility traps + flight will help a lot

[near blaze]

Can traps work on him he seems to teleport/somehow deflect a lot of my spells

[near blaze]

I just dont know how to deal with infinity

[near blaze]

Holy your right the skill issue was HARD

[wraith hollow]

Did Senate throw Gojo at you lol

[near blaze]

I mean no but bros limitless is beyond carrying

[tepid spear]

are you meant to be able to just put the bosses in containment jars

[mighty marsh]

yea

They don't drop the souls though

not without any kubejs configurarion

[warm lagoon]

can someone help out an old fool? my kid wants the lightning gear but we cant figure out how to make it. i have 4 lightning and 4 mana diamonds on the ped but it just wont craft. thanks in advance

[neon fjord]

Hi, so you need 4 lightning souls and 4 mana diamonds on the pedestals. Then you need to put an awakened water, fire, or earth armour piece

[warm lagoon]

tried that in a test world it still wasnt working.

[warm lagoon]

Is there a video out there on this mod addon?

[latent wraith]

You can't pull an awakened piece out of creative. They lack the proper nbts or something. You need to start with plain old tier 1 arcanist and work your way up manually, even in creative mode.

[neon fjord]

I should fix this at some point… but idk when I have the ambition for the next version

[latent wraith]

You'd only ever get that issue in creative, which means unless you're in very specific circumstances, you'd never ever notice.

[neon fjord]

Yeah, but I get the question so often it’s evident that I should make it more clear and fix some of the JEI problems

[frosty cairn]

what exactly does 6 eyes do?

[neon fjord]

Makes spells use waaaay less mana

[frosty cairn]

Does it do smth to your vision?

[neon fjord]

Gives you night vision and magic detection as a passive yeah

[frosty cairn]

Ohhh

No idea what magic detection was that's why i was confused

[drifting vault]

Somehow i can't bring ars plus on a aternos 1.20.1 Sever. Anyone know why???

[near blaze]

How do you apply limitless to yourself? Like to stop projectiles

[ocean glacier]

Is there a way to change the boss names so they're not modern? And maybe have them hooded like the other mages

[neon fjord]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, not rn but I'll consider it

[zenith flame]

Isnt it Self > Infinity > AOE?

[near blaze]

I’ll try

[frosty cairn]

wait this chat says ars plus, but is it specifically adam's ars plus?

i remember that there was a mod called ars plus at some point, so want to be sure

[mighty marsh]

what century is that from

Well I don't know about any other Ars Plus but yeah this is only Adam's Ars Plus

#general-and-help message

These are all 1.20.1 addons

There is a pin for 1.21 addons too

[frosty cairn]

cool ok! also u have any idea where ars delight is crossed out?

[mighty marsh]

It is as I heard, banned from curseforge

The mod developer has 189 mods

Most are broken

And the developer just wants to make a lot of cf points

He has 4 other broken addons, idk about them tho

[frosty cairn]

oh i see, thanks for lettin me know!

[near blaze]

Ars delight works for me

[frosty cairn]

o7 i can still add it w/ prism, so ig ill be using it until i find a reason not to lmao

[compact totem]

Aka when you find out the wilden drops don't work

[versed ruin]

The Ars Delight that had some different effects & the Enchanter's Knife?

That Ars Delight has been rebranded as Ars Nouveau : Flavours & Delight.

[mighty marsh]

Yeahh https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1301539822640435261

[mighty marsh]

Might be some other mod then

[compact totem]

Two different addons

Delight was the Project Count one, so the new better one had to add "Flavours and Delight"

[zinc brook]

Hello im newbie,How to find soul?

[mighty marsh]

You make a tablet of summon mage, do the ritual but augment it with the correct essences

read the summon mage tablet pages in ritual section of the guide book

[normal star]

Do the glyphs and armor that are added by this mod only drop by those mages or can you craft/find them? I can't seem to find any info on those on curseforge, the notebook or JEI. Thanks in advance!

[mighty marsh]

'tis but an old tale I heard once, if you do it the right way, you can apparently augment the summon mage tablet with elemental essences to summon forth the mighty mages

.
Two theories I know of are as follows, one is, they are the corpses of the nation leaders from 8 centuries ago, and the erudite discovered that you can re-animate them using forbidden magic, which was later refined and now you can do it with a tablet

The other theory is, the mages are conjured with mana in the surroundings, the essence you toss becomes the core, and the immense amount of mana changes it to a soul for the mage that gives them conciousness

.
Anyway you should check the recipes in jei for the armour sets, the souls are obtained if you kill the summoned mage, more about it in the rituals section of the guide book

[old arch]

cool

[ashen ermine]

Hey guys im doing ars plus and i would like a safe method to farm bosses especially the last one Adam which one shot me every time even with totem. Someone has an idea how to farm him safely ?

[high wagon]

is there a way to prevent the random mages to spawn?

im having some problems

[mighty marsh]

Probably not because they are really op

[mighty marsh]

[subtle coral]

I usually use Drygmys and Jars

[ashen ermine]

IT WORKS ?

[subtle coral]

Yeah!
Word of warning though, you need 2 braziers
And start up the jar ritual before spawning the mages

[neon fjord]

Lol, still unsure if I should remove this when I get around to making a 1.21 o 1.22 version

Not exactly unintended but it's def too easy

I'll leave it for the regular mages though

[subtle coral]

Oh absolutely

Plus a river and an enchanters bow are usually enough to kill most of em
Just takes a while

[floral dragon]

Why 2 braziers? What are each doing?

[subtle coral]

1 to spawn the mage, the other for the trapping ritual

Less room for error

[floral dragon]

Ahhh gotcha, thanks

Can all the mages terrain-grief or only some of them?

[subtle coral]

I think it depends on the type for normal mages
But iirc, most of the special mages do it

[mighty marsh]

Hold on

They dont give the souls do they

[ashen ermine]

Ty so much you are the goat

[subtle coral]

They do

[mighty marsh]

...

😭

[edgy root]

how does the limitless glyph actually work, if i may ask?

i havent actually managed to make it owork yet

*work

[mighty marsh]

I think you augment it with aoe and have to time it right as I've heard

[edgy root]

gotcha

[rough ridge]

Hi. I have a question about Adam's Ars Plus. How can I upgrade the armor to level 5?
I'm trying to do it in creative in another world, but I can't.

[neon fjord]

A little annoying but you have to start from the base are armors and upgrade up

[rough ridge]

thx

https://tenor.com/view/false-god-bvs-superman-gif-17296760

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-superman-gif-632723218522114279

[high wagon]

whats the effect of this thing?
the description is so vague...

[neon fjord]

Inflicts spell targets with hex

[high wagon]

oh, nice

the draconic word induce us to think about other things

[neon fjord]

I’d have to check again but it may inflict eruption as well

[high wagon]

Adam is also very stupid to fight

the lag skill he uses crashed my friends so much during the battles...

damage wasnt the problem during the fight, the lag was

[neon fjord]

I’ll keep it in mind for a future version

[high wagon]

ok, ty

here i am, wearing a full Awakened Void Archmage armor

6 eyes thread is awesome, ngl

im waiting the end dimension open to get the creative flight thread

[neon fjord]

How did man do this without chorus fruit lol

[high wagon]

we begged the server owner to add it to a shop

[neon fjord]

Fair play ig

[high wagon]

yeah

the only missing thing is elytra

we can get dragonbreath somewhere to unlock the glyphs

[floral dragon]

^I'm in a similar position, the server owner is ok with Twilight Forest's uncrafting an ender pearl into a chorus fruit. lol

On and off trying to figure out hoping any of the mods I have add an alternative way to get Elytra to not added extra rush for the server to unlock the End. (If y'all know of any popular mods that add alternate ways let me know)

But on the topic of Adam's Ars Plus, I have a question about the ritual

So I tried putting an air essence down first, it wouldn't accept a flame/frost/earth soul, which is what I assumed it meant by "elemental soul". But 1 air essence followed by 1 "Triune Elemental Soul" (the mix of those first three souls), worked to summon the air mage. later in the description it says abjuration essence requires "a true elemental soul", so I assumed they probably meant the "Triune" soul and not the later "Awakened Elemental Soul", but no it looks like I needed Triune earlier than that? Idk if something's broken or I'm misunderstanding.

So I got the air mage, but then afterwards doing it with 1 conjuration essence followed by 1 triune elemental soul, got me regular mages as if it wasn't augmented, not a "powerful mage" like I was able to get with the 4 previous ones. (It also ate up my ingredients ofc) What should I do instead?

[neon fjord]

Hmm, conjuration should be the same as the air mage. That's partially my fault for changing the names after I wrote the guides and such

[floral dragon]

So these are the two I'd need to get the the correct mage right? Does order matter?

[neon fjord]

Yes, order shouldn't matter

[floral dragon]

Ok tested both of the last 2 in creative singleplay, it works. Weird that it didn't the first time I tried it, huh

Also are all the mages named after like other devs on your mod? Or like your friend group or something? XD If so that's cute

[neon fjord]

lol yes and yes

may replace it later but I didn't want to come up with names lol

[floral dragon]

I mean it works lol Albeit feeling like these mages look like main characters but with no lore attainable

[neon fjord]

I'm the only 'dev' but they helped with ideas

[neon fjord]

I don't see myself making ars lore lol

[floral dragon]

Valid. lol Me neither, albeit I have debating whether I want to program a specific addon for Ars, though it would have more to do with controls of how you cast spells at cast time, rather than something I can imagine shoehorning lore into even if I wanted to.

Though while I'm here I do got other questions about some stuff mechanically from this addon

I get the JJK reference, but how is this actually implemented mechanically? What does "superior vision" mean?

[neon fjord]

Gives you permanent night vision and the effect from the sense magic glyph

[floral dragon]

Another question I have but about the Spell Efficiency Glyph, I tested it both in survival and rn in a creative world, I'm not seeing a noticeable difference in the numeric mana from another mod, nor the actual bar length. Whether a spell costs more mana than I have in creative, or if its less than my total (so actually castable without creative). Does this Glyph actually work, or does it work in practice just not shown in the spellbook? The debuff it causes definitely appears in the menu after use

[floral dragon]

I imagine the night vision isn't toggleable without taking the item/thread off?

[neon fjord]

The discount is applied at the time of casting. So it doesn’t show in the cost estimate

[floral dragon]

Does stacking multiple Efficiency glyphs together make the penalty stronger, or does the debuff only have one level?

[neon fjord]

I believe it makes it longer but I can’t remember off the top of my head

Six eyes thread also makes the glyph not inflict the debuff iirc

Debuff pauses mana regen. And the discount from spell efficiency is 0.7^X where X is how many of the glyph you have. Six eyes automatically count as 2

[floral dragon]

Oh that's actually very helpful to know. lol I kinda wish the glyphs and threads were more transparent about the actual numerics (the efficiency glyph's description actually does include that 0.7^X formula I appreciate that), but that's moreso a trend throughout Ars Nouveau not just a specific module lol

[neon fjord]

Yeah, it’s a balance between info, sounding cool, and not having too much yap

I tend to like more info but I know others find it annoying

[floral dragon]

AoE, Accelerate, and Extend Time II and II all cost 4x and 9x the original augment's mana cost. Are they also 4x and 9x as strong as the originals? 5x and 10x? How much stronger

[high wagon]

I found a problem with the Creative Flight thread

the effect only reapply when the first one runs off

so we fall to death without warning

thats stupid

the Ritual of flight at least reapply after a minute...

(with 30 seconds left in case it cant reapply)

[floral dragon]

I don't have that yet to test but you can try a spell or item to apply slowfall or bounce in addition maybe?

If you have Ars Artifice or Extended Glyphs, a Spell Storing curio or a Spell Recursor can be programmed to autocast a spell using your mana ofc

[floral dragon]

I keep trying to get Limitless to work. With domain or various other AoEs, but mobs still seem to be able to move in them?

[high wagon]

Aura Glyph from trinkets was peak to use with limitless a year ago

[dreamy cairn]

Has anyone managed to beat the archmage

[mighty marsh]

which one

the final one?

Adam?

He one shot me through a totem charm

[high wagon]

yeah, flight ritual is your best bet

[neon fjord]

If you're struggling I'd suggest just using: burst -> Sensitive -> conjure water -> freeze -> ice burst
A super high damage option available pre-void soul

[torn slate]

So I just crafted a full set of Earth Armor, what is my next step before I can "awaken" it?

[torn slate]

I wanna tier them up but I have no idea how to, I have plenty of source, but I think I may have the wrong recipe?

[neon fjord]

Yeah, the upgrade in JEI is incorrect. Go to the enchanting reciple in jei. Should be 4 netherite and 4 triune souls

[torn slate]

triune not True elemental? also that's to awaken it, but it won't let me awaken it, don't I need to upgrade the earth armor first?

wait wait it worked

huh. so it was triune not the true elemental... hrmm I really appreciate it

[floral dragon]

Does that aura combo just deflect arrows or also the velocity of mobs?

[mighty marsh]

wdym lol that dude is 50 percent of the time jumping 100s of blocks

i might have to try again

Maybe I wasn't strong enough

that dude dug out 2 huge hemispheres out of the earth and now when I fly by it, it looks like the colossal titan sat there

will send ss tomorrow fr fr

[high wagon]

it freezes every entity around you

[floral dragon]

Is that combo glitchy/laggy at all?

[high wagon]

nope, it doesnt affect air or blocks, you're ok to use

[floral dragon]

Don't have that mod in our modpack yet (we can get it cuz we're on 1.20) so I'll have to wait on that, but sounds sick.

Any suggestions on what sort of freezing-enemy-in-place spell I can put on a trinket from Ars Artifice? Been experimenting with Limitless but struggling, ultimately I want to make a trinket with Anguish (Artifice, triggers on hit) and Retaliate (Ars Additions, targets last attacker) to freeze in place the last enemy who hit me

[wispy fossil]

Make Glyph of Summon Herobrine check for the Herobrine mob from "The End of Herobrine"

If the mob exists, summon it.
If not, crash the server as usual.

Increase Duration increases the time he's spawned for (Base 20 seconds, increased by 10 seconds per Increase)

Extract makes Herobrine not hostile to you.

If possible, for funnies, make herobrine immune to any spell that hits him after 30 seconds.

I specify "The End of Herobrine" because it has a truly fightable herobrine boss

[mighty marsh]

whas this

suggestion?

idk if u know but, Ars extended glyphs iirc has a summom herobrine glyph that crashes the server

[wispy fossil]

wait shit I thought it was this mod that added it

mb

[mighty marsh]

#general-and-help message

[wispy fossil]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1377716592976199791

Boom

[mighty marsh]

Do you want that to be part of the base mod or some addon?

[wispy fossil]

an addon ofc

it wouldn't really fit in the base mod

especially with the feature of becoming immune to spells (if possible)

[mighty marsh]

that dude pulled out his domain expansion twice and made those huge dents in the ground

[neon fjord]

Ngl, I wanna get in contact with the terramity dev at some point. Wanna make the bosses a lot more of a "boss fight"

May also dip my toes into making some structures to serve as arenas. ppl seem to get confused on summoning the bosses rn

Just want to generally polish up things. Rn everything def has an amateur feel (bc I am)

[mighty marsh]

idk about terramity mod but to give an honest opinion about the bosses

They are pretty well made

Very strong, have trump cards and not as dumb as one would expect

[mighty marsh]

That would be amazing

[mighty marsh]

Stand proud

[neon fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-jujutsu-kaisen-jogo-anime-gif-15480418563921375696

ty ty, I just know I can do better

[mighty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jogo-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jogoat-sukuna-gif-8018799219841835694

[wispy fossil]

there are bosses?

[mighty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-gojo-satoru-gojo-gojo-nah-id-win-based-gif-1386208306800778510

[wispy fossil]

do they tank Touch, Obliterate (or wtv it's called), Amplify IIIx10, Spell Efficiencyx5?

also I managed to make RCT

Ring of spellcasting FTW

[mighty marsh]

there are different ranks firt of all

I like to think of them as 3 ranks

rank 3 is for earth, fire and water mages

rank 2 for lightning and ancient (air and conjuration i think)

rank 1 is for abjuration and that dude is strongest

all of them have domain expansion, last one has sukuna's malevolent shrine domain

I hope you know jjk it makes it easier to understand

I recommend going in with a totem charm to fight the rank 3 ones just so u can see for yourself their power

[mighty marsh]

Idk how much damage that does but it looks deadly lol

[wispy fossil]

all of it

it does all the damage

[mighty marsh]

I recommend https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1356607074632732873 as a backup becauyse that works well

[wispy fossil]

never

I will make my own spells

[mighty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocked-blue-emoji-emoji-blumoji-gif-15892774813361256198

[wispy fossil]

I ALSO have malevolent shrine

I ALSO ALSO have infinite void

I can stack domains

[mighty marsh]

U ALSO ALSO ALSO have trinkets

Because that isnt possible for us peasants

lol

[wispy fossil]

I ALSO ALSO ALSO ALSO have a 100 glyph limit

[wispy fossil]

I just- have them on seperate spell slots-

and I use 5 spell efficiencies in my domains

[mighty marsh]

Ig it is safe to say u will survive even rank 2

But even idk the rank 1 dudes power

He one shot me through my totem

[wispy fossil]

not to mention I have a ring of spellcasting that heals me for 10 hearts whenever I take 4 damage

[mighty marsh]

I have unobtanium robes too

[wispy fossil]

aka Reverse Cursed Technique

[mighty marsh]

Lol

[wispy fossil]

I also have dismantle

Raycast, AOE, Air Sword, Break, AOE, Spell Efficiencyx5

it

is spammable

and doesn't proc unless it hits an entity

so it doesn't waste mana on miss

Worst case scenario I just take the whole server down with me

(Summon Herobrine)

https://tenor.com/view/valekis-gif-14850121764306207925

ALSO ALSO

[mighty marsh]

air sword

[wispy fossil]

Psi, Leggings, Custom Infinity Spell

[mighty marsh]

good luck

[wispy fossil]

Projectiles can't hit me

I outheal most damage

I can pop domain for practically nothing

and finally, I have hollow purple

[mighty marsh]

nice because the last guy adam has an open barrier domain which did this:

[mighty marsh]

lol

[wispy fossil]

Explosion Projectile, Pierce x30, Extend Time III x5, Obliterate, Amplify III x5, Break, Pierce x5, AOE III, Spell Efficiency x5.

Optional: Awakened Void Archmage Helmet w/Six Eyes Thread

[wispy fossil]

If you know all the glyphs you'll have enough mana to cast this

it will take MOST of your Mana tho

No additional armor mana needed so long as you know every glyph

It doesn't require Mana from trinkets either

it's literally just base max mana (+all the addons for 1.20.1 that add glyphs)

[mighty marsh]

How are u so stacked but u dont know there are bosses

[wispy fossil]

Hollow Purple

[wispy fossil]

Because finding glyphs isn't hard

[mighty marsh]

plus u need the boss souls to make that stuff

That armour requires the soul drops thi

[wispy fossil]

the armor is optional, didn't say I had it.

codexs can give you ANY glyph

[mighty marsh]

yeah

kk

[wispy fossil]

It only takes like 30 smth Ancient Codexes to get all the Tier III glyphs

which can be found in the ancient cities real easily

it's actually harder to get all the teir II glyphs since those codexes are harder to find

and Tier I is only pain because of how many filters there are

so chances are you won't get something useful your first few codexes

[mighty marsh]

ohh

[mighty marsh]

i only ever found like 10 tier 1s

[tranquil umbra]

how do u get mana diamonds

[mighty marsh]

8 source gems around 1 diamond on enchanting apperatus

requires 1 full jar of source

or 70%

some like that

[tranquil umbra]

oh yikes

[mighty marsh]

Yeah pretty expensive

But not if you do the right stuff

[mighty marsh]

Get urself a scrying ritual, augment with a diamond ore block and a manipulation essence, then go mine as many diamonds as u can in the 15 minutes

[tranquil umbra]

what does that do

[mighty marsh]

For source, even a sourceberry farm with starbuncles works

Create a source giant battery to store the source

[mighty marsh]

its basically xray but instead of making stone see through, it highlights the diamonds nearby with a similar orb that u see when u fire a projectile

U will see how good it is when u try it

[tranquil umbra]

very interesting

[mighty marsh]

This is the easiest one and because I was able to do it, anyone should be able to

Then u can go extra by making a amethyst golem farm thingy to get u amethyst, hook that up to some inmbuement chambers and assign a starby to collect the source gems

[full flower]

i can talk to him

but idk how interested he would be, since he did say before he wont rework bosses next update, also he will be going open source in the next update so maybe you can make an addon for it?

[neon fjord]

If they're going open source that's all I'd be curious for. Just like having references

[full flower]

i assume you played terramity but if not they have an effect called misprogrammed

while you have it on you ignore i frames

pretty op

[neon fjord]

mhm, I've used it a decent amount

[full flower]

i was thinking to make a very very small addon thats misprogrammed as potion effect

to pair it with aetherworks refracted

with the crown of that mod adds the ability to have a permanent potion effect in you

[neon fjord]

Hmm, not a bad idea

[floral dragon]

Speaking of all the essence types and associated mages, is there a reason there's none for Manipulation Essence?

[mighty marsh]

I don't know about that at all

[frigid sluice]

How does one get things like flame souls

[mighty marsh]

Create a tablet of summon mage with 1 mana diamond, 2 mage cloth and 1 blue archwood log aka cascading archwood

Create a ritual brazier for this and augment the tablet with a fire essence to summon the boss

.
Kill the boss and you will get 5 to 10 flame souls

.
Do this with water and earth essence for their respective bosses

You can read more about this in the worn notebook/spellbook, Rituals>Tablet of summon mage

[tranquil umbra]

does focus of block shaping effect raise earth or do i use the focus earth instead

[mighty marsh]

Should probably use earth focus

[mighty marsh]

I don't remember exactly but

Yeah

If the elemental school is earth

Then earth focus

if manipulation the block shaping

[tranquil umbra]

how the hell does the iceburst work

?

[mighty marsh]

I forgor but it was similar to a simple touch freeze coldsnap spell

But i feel like it used to work on water

[tranquil umbra]

So i just put iceburst after both freeze related spells?

Bc i shot it at ice and it did nothing

[mighty marsh]

[mighty marsh]

This is a nice spell

add an aoe at the end to target mobs in a larger radius

[mighty marsh]

it should have a description

[tranquil umbra]

iceburst at the end i assume?

[mighty marsh]

nah thats just a normal spell lol

lemme check iceburst rn

im on

[mighty marsh]

replace the with iceburst and try firing on a mob, on the ground and on a water body

[tranquil umbra]

nope doesnt work

have to be all freeze spells

[full flower]

Any recommendation for a water spear spell that doesn’t involve any domain and by any chance any funny limitless spell?

PvP intended btw

[floral dragon]

Is Limitless with Peirce supposed to cause damage?

The description makes it sound like Pierce is just supposed to make entities go to where the spell resolved (only if amplified?), not sure if damage is intentional

[neon fjord]

You need to amplify it

[floral dragon]

Happens both with and without amplify/dampen, but enough dampen augments make it not cause damage

[floral dragon]

It still seems to cause damage when amplified, is that intentional?

[neon fjord]

Yeah it’s supposed to cause damage

[floral dragon]

Ahh ok, thanks for clearing that up

[floral dragon]

Suggestion: Pierce II and Pierce III like AoE II and AoE III.

Those AoE glyphs of yours are very useful when testing XD Saves room/simplifies logic when trying out things in Creative Single worlds. But the AoE series only affects two dimensions (width and height if hitting a block from side, or width and depth if hitting a block from above or an enemy from any side). Pierce on the other hand applies depth when hitting a block from the side, and height from hitting a block from the top or an enemy from anywhere. So it's important for dimensions, and a Pierce II and III would be appreciated additions. 😅 If you worry about the balance implications of Pierce being able to do things like bouncing projectiles through multiple enemies, maybe that can be explicitly not included in Pierce II and III, idk how the base mechanic is coded if that'd be easy or hard to do

[floral dragon]

^Like maybe don't let Pierce II and III act as multiple Pierce if you make them further increase damage of Limitless like that XD Unless you don't care about the combat implications, I moreso care for the dimensions

[compact totem]

Pierce probably can't get the empowered version code wise as everywhere the code does an explicit check for pierce

While for amp there is an amplification stat, so it was easy to add

[old arch]

hey

it might be a bit much to ask

but is there a way that ars plus adds a sensitive augment for domain

for example, im trying to make the closed domain contain water,

but i can't find a way to do so

if there is a way, please pointn me out to it, if there isn't, please consider this suggestion

[neon fjord]

Hmmmmm, I’ll think on it. Only issue is that it takes away a lot of the “OP” factor from open domain

[old arch]

but, you could make them mutually exclusive

wait wdyym

op factor?

what about open domain is so op?

[neon fjord]

Burst combos

[old arch]

wait you can pair it with burst?

isn't that like

an auto crash?

also, obligatory is there any plans for 1.21

[neon fjord]

Yeah, just doing other stuff rn

May skip to 1.22 for any big update but I’ll try and make a 1.21 version

[compact totem]

1.22 is an heavy lift

You will likely have to stop a bit on 1.21 along the way

[old arch]

oh also

i don't remember if it was intended or not but iceburst ignores iframes

in domain at least

[neon fjord]

That was intended

[old arch]

ah

[neon fjord]

Personally I think I’ll nerf it in the next update but I want to to have some degree of I frame skips

[mighty marsh]

Cant be strongest or proud stand without i frame skip yk

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-ryomen-sukuna-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-ep-17-gif-10165865180936555467

[lusty zodiac]

hey so im trying to make a flame set rn, and my chestplate and hood worked just fine, but my boots and legs just refuse to craft, says theres no recipe

[neon fjord]

The boots and legs tier 3?

[lusty zodiac]

yea

[neon fjord]

You have the 4 souls / 4 mana diamonds / source?

[lusty zodiac]

yep

i tested it out more cause im op

and everything after that line also didnt work

specifically for boots and leggings

like i gave myself the flame stuff

and then i couldnt awaken it

etc

[neon fjord]

You have to craft it manually or it doesn't work. My laziness

[lusty zodiac]

💀

i really wish JEI would tell me these things

uhhh

[neon fjord]

that's on me. I was lazy when doing the JEI stuff

[lusty zodiac]

am i crazy or is it not crafting

[neon fjord]

You need to use the enchanting apparatus

[lusty zodiac]

you said manually

so i switched

😭

it also wasnt working in the enchanting apparatus tho

[neon fjord]

I mean manually go:
tier 1 -> tier 2 -> tier 3 -> flame -> awakened -> lightning -> awakened -> void -> awakened
instead of grabbing it from the creative menu

[lusty zodiac]

well yea

and im saying it didnt let me go from tier 3 to flame

so i tried going to the creative menu

grabbed flame

flame -> awakened didnt work

(I got to tier 3 naturally)

[tranquil umbra]

how do u get void,ancient,and lightning souls?

[mighty marsh]

read the summon mage ritual pages in rituals

ingame docs

It will tell u how to summon the mage with air and conjuration essences

u need a triune soul for that too so dont forget that

kill the bosses that spawn

And when u have all 5 souls, make a true elemental soul

then you can summon the abjuration mage

[tranquil umbra]

oh i didnt see that thanks

[tranquil umbra]

what does the draconic curse effect do

specfically

[tranquil umbra]

also how do i upgrade my magical armor to tier 4 do i need to make the specefic elemental armor?

[mighty marsh]

Something with hex or something

haven't tried yet

[mighty marsh]

not elemental, get the base ars armour to tier 3 first

[mighty marsh]

Then make flame/frost/earth armour

then awakened version of it

then lightning from it

then awakened lightning

then void

then void awakened

[tranquil umbra]

i see

big thanks

for jei is NOT working for this mod so i am relying on yall for this

[mighty marsh]

It is kind of messed I agree 😅

[tranquil umbra]

sorry to ask again but tier 4 slots start happening from awakened Flame/frost/earth right?