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[fervent hawk]

it gets them away from you, locks them to the ground, and then damages them a couple of times

you could even use lightning on this one, since it knocks them back first

like you could replace that last harm with

[prisma oyster]

ooo interesting, i'll give it a try. ty for the idea

[prisma oyster]

@fervent hawk i tried that spellsword combo out and its great! thanks for the help!

[fervent hawk]

yup! Important thing to learn in this mod is that pure damage isn't the best answer, there are many things you can do to make your life easier

I don't like to put AOE effects on my sword because I have accidentally killed things nearby that I didn't want to in the past, like villagers and cats and whatnot

pull out your sword to save a villager from a zombie, forgetting that it has an AOE spell that one-shots everything in wide radius....

[prisma oyster]

oh ye, i accidentally killed my friend's cat with an AOE spell...AOE can be risky af

[lavish cliff]

How Do You Add This To Your Armor Pieces

[sullen sky]

Reactive enchantment

Make a lapis block, a source gem block and a spell parchment (made from inscribing a blank parchment with a spell with the help of a scribes table) and the thing you want to enchant in the enchantment apparatus, in this case armor

[slender quiver]

So I've built a earth bending wand that raises a little 2x 2 x 2 square and throws it at enemies, I have reactive 4 on it and want to fill the left behind space with mage blocks but I'm having a hard time figuring out how, any advice?
Wand: ×3

Current reactive spell that isn't working how i want: x5

Any advice on how to at least fill the top layer would be great. I just want to be curious to others on the server and not level 2 block high holes to fall in

[spare elbow]

Hey, I've recently tried the necromancy focus, but my revenants don't cast my homing spells whenever I cast one, is this a bug or am I just dumb? Also the revenants don't follow me like regular summoned undead but they do still defend me could that be part of the problem? Any advice would be appreciated!

[fervent hawk]

revenants?

oh, is that the black skeletons that spawn when the normal ones die?

[spare elbow]

Yeah the wither skeletons that spawn whenever the regular undead die

[fervent hawk]

might be a bug

[spare elbow]

Damn

[fervent hawk]

that would be #1019900714044100699 I believe

[spare elbow]

Ah yeah, thank you

[fervent hawk]

I could do my own testing when I have time as well, I have a necromancy setup on the test server

[spare elbow]

Oh sorry, I didn't see your message until now, that would definitely be appreciated, although I suspect it might be a problem caused by some other mod since I'm running more then just ars, don't know wich one it could be though

[fervent hawk]

possibly, but it doesn't hurt to have multiple people testing things

and that's why we have the Test server

could also just be something that slipped through the cracks because no one tested it before

like the fact that they spawn when the summoned skeletons die, those might not count as summons because they weren't created by a spell, and so the effects aren't passed along

[spare elbow]

Could be, I'm just a bit confused since I saw them working flawlessly on YouTube

[fervent hawk]

which version were they playing on, is it the same one you are? The thing about YouTube is that you are always looking at something in the past, and things may have changed since then. Innocuous changes sometimes break stuff that seems unrelated

[spare elbow]

Oh yeah you're right they were on Version 0.5.6.2 of ars elemental while I'm on 0.5.9.3.2

[flint idol]

Like Bailey optimizing particles by simply deleting them for that one version on 1.20

[spare elbow]

Also they had Ars Nuveau on 3.5.1 while I'm on 3.21.4

And we both were on 1.19.2 minecraft

[bold verge]

in a twisted sense that's code optimization

[bright canopy]

oh hm maybe this is where I'm supposed to ask this

I'm guessing this is more of a hexcasting situation but is there anything to control aoe shape of a spell (ideally for like, making a builder's wand esque thing?)

[flint idol]

Not particularly. AOE will increase as a square. Too many glyphs has the chaining glyph, which is sort of like veinminer

So would target all of a block that you select. So could work with place block. But I genuinely don't know how well that would work

[sinful quiver]

you can ignore AOE and use burst before the spell

and yea TMG has chain

[bright canopy]

oh we do have tmg, thank you, I'll test out chaining

I don't have tier 3 yet so no burst for now

[flint idol]

It'll be tricky. My guess is it'll select all sides of the blocks

[bright canopy]

but if nothing else having veinminer sounds nice :p

[flint idol]

Standard AOE is 16 blocks or 8 entities. +16/8 per aoe

[bright canopy]

oh interesting it's not a shape? or is it a shape but also a target count

[flint idol]

Burst is basically a sphere shape, so may work. But it depends

Chaining is an effect. But changes how the targeting works

So it's similar to rune, how it changes how the shape targets things

Chaining is one of the most powerful glyphs because of how the targeting works

Normally with break aoe2, you break a 3x3 blocks. If you do break aoe 6, you'll get a 7x7

But break aoe 6 pickup will not be able to pick up each block. Because the pickup only targets the middle (the one block you targeted). It has some aoe, but not enough for a 7x7

Chaining changes that though. It makes everything else in the spell target all those individual blocks. So chaining break pickup will cast break and pickup at each block

[bright canopy]

huh. but why is it not a modifier then?

technical reasons?

[flint idol]

Chaining aoe 3 break extract pickup is silk touching a full stack at a time

Modifiers modify effects or shapes. And not other modifiers

Chaining needs to be an effect to be able to take the aoe

[fervent hawk]

Burst and chain are like sub forms

[bright canopy]

oh hm maybe I misunderstand the description

[fervent hawk]

They propagate the rest of the spell to the area of the sub form

[bright canopy]

hm

should I just think of it like map

[flint idol]

The main takeaway is that you use chain before any other effects. It says "don't just target the one thing, target all of these things"

[fervent hawk]

Well when a projectile hits something, that thing is the target for the spell. But if you add chain, the it changes the target to everything touched by Chain

[fervent hawk]

The main difference is that Chain affects everything after it rather than one thing. So proj/chain/break/pickup will break 16 blocks and also cast pickup at all 16 of those block locations

[bright canopy]

thanks ^^

I think I get it, and if not my manip essence is finished crafting so I'll find out soon :p

[fervent hawk]

Whereas aoe needs to be added to every effect that you want to have more aoe

[bright canopy]

question: why does break, item pickup actually work, btw

naively I would expect it not to

[fervent hawk]

Everything happens in subticks, in proper order

Pickup/break probably won't work (honestly never tried though)

[bright canopy]

I've been using break smelt pickup for a while and it didn't work as break pickup smelt, so I am guessing order does matter there

(for sponges, if you're wondering why)

[fervent hawk]

Hm, interesting that the smelt works

[bright canopy]

well smelt can explicitly do dropped items

and I assume the block is a dropped item at that point

[fervent hawk]

Right, I'm thinking of Crush that needs extra stuff to work on items

Yeah

[bright canopy]

we don't have a version of falseweave that only players can go through, do we

sorry, bit off topic but I'm getting all the knowledgeable people here :p

[fervent hawk]

No, though the Glassential mod has glass that can be passed through only by players

Not exactly what you want, but

[bright canopy]

yeah sadly this is a friend's pack

otherwise I'd use the gloopcasting one

which also has the benefit of not allowing dirty non-magic-users in

[fervent hawk]

I only just got the chance to mess with Hex gloop, really interesting

[bright canopy]

I haven't played with it tbh, just read the docs yesterday and want to try it

[fervent hawk]

More or less same

Added it to my Arcane Isles instance and was reading through. One of the best things it does though is render the glyphs in tool tips and whatnot as glyphs rather than impossible to read strings of directions

[bright canopy]

yeah I saw that in the docs

it sounded very useful

[fervent hawk]

Soooooo good

[bright canopy]

oh I guess I could like

just add mods to arcane isles some time huh

[fervent hawk]

If that was the only thing it added I'd still think it was fantastic

Yeah I just booted up the instance I was using to test Arcane Isles before launch and started messing with Hexcasting in it again, since Hex isn't on 1.20

[bright canopy]

oh I didn't actually realize the port hadn't happened

rip

[fervent hawk]

I mean as far as I checked last week it still didn't have a 1.20 port

Probably still not

[bright canopy]

fair, you are almost certainly right

I haven't been playing for a while

[fervent hawk]

I heard someone was working on it but that's as far as I know

[bright canopy]

should I go elsewhere if I'm liable to go even further off topic or can I chat here

[fervent hawk]

Yeah, if it's gonna go on longer off topic is where it ends up. I'm going to bed though

[bright canopy]

gn!

[bright canopy]

so pierce says that combined with aoe it adds depth

so I was thinking that chain aoe without pierce would not have depth, but it seems to (testing with break)

[fervent hawk]

The direction it pierces might be chaotic though

With chain

[bright canopy]

oh is it more predictable with pierce, that might be nice

I'd like to make a well behaved aoe digging spell

[fervent hawk]

So chain works differently

[flint idol]

I don't think anybody knows the targeting orientation for blocks hit by chaining

[fervent hawk]

Pierce adds distance that the chain can jump

Across gaps

[bright canopy]

oh I just wanted plain aoe apparently

[fervent hawk]

Yeah

[bright canopy]

what are the chances we have something like "cyclical"

every n times the spell is cast do the following

so that I could make like

[fervent hawk]

Nope

[bright canopy]

rip

I guess I am probably just meant to use pierce

hm. due primarily to mana regen issues appears to be about the same speed as hand mining/slower than caving would probably be if I didn't suck at combat >.>

[flint idol]

Makes sense. Get more mana, or try more mana efficient spells. The discount rings are flat reduction of 20 mana each. So on a spell that costs 50, you only pay 10.

But a spell that costs 350, you're still paying 310

[bright canopy]

fair. I just am very low on materials for more glyphs

that's why I'm going mining :p

[marble moat]

yo
anyone know how to make a spellbook blanket an area with snow?

i want to turn my island into a winter wonderland but placing snow cover manually on the top of trees is giving me carpel tunnel :p

[dapper night]

To my knowledge there isnt a snow interaction 😦

[marble moat]

nooo ahh

[dense wave]

aww i made a nice spell that deals fall damage which ignores armor, but enemies killed by it dont drop xp x4

[deft badger]

yeah try hitting it with cut or another damage spell before

[dense wave]

Ill give it a shot when i log back on

[limber portal]

how do i make an inverted pull?

so like a push

[flint idol]

[tidal egret]

@sage hedge I just saw your video and your comment about asking you about the fire gatling here instead of the commments

[tidal egret]

is Cold Snap stronger than Flare?

[bold verge]

depends

flare deals more dps

(with AE)

but in base ars cold snap is better

[flint maple]

flare does more raw damage (1-2 more + fire dot)

snap does the slow, which can be really useful

[dense wave]

Are spells totally silent for anyone else? Firing spells without any audio feedback feels wrong

[forest mortar]

1.16?

[dense wave]

Yes

[flint maple]

spell sounds were only added in 1.18

then more sounds in 1.19

[dense wave]

Ahh i see thank you

[vocal tinsel]

Is it possible to create anything like domain expansions from JJK in Ars?

Not necessary like the always hit condition. But something that creates (or teleports to) a finite area that is relate to my spells and gives my an advantage. I like fire spells so something in that tone.`~~

hi someone know good fire spells for 1.20.1???

[marsh nebula]

Howdy

[subtle agate]

x6

Put this spell on a mirror

[vocal tinsel]

By mirror do you mena Enchanter’s mirror?

Another not related question is what spells are good to attack other players?

[prisma smelt]

//Surprise spells💀

Leap is a thing
Once they spotted your hostility
They can freely bird away from you
Almost instantaneously

So...
Cosmetic armour
Invisibility

After that
Simply attacking could make them flee
And so
Gravity+Snare

You can apply natural DoT like poison and wither
Then release
How useless are they🗿
But there's DoT you can make yourself

Wich is far better
Damaging hardly
And, maybe, uncancellable by cleanse

For preparation
You can use multiple wands
To bind "spell slots"
Right to your inventory slots

After all
It's all about
Element of surprise 🗿

//... oh, and magic damage from Evoker claws glyph
Ignoring natural armor values
+Can be amplified

[vocal tinsel]

thank you

[solemn gust]

I could use a hand figuring out anti-mob DPS spells in 1.20.1 with Ars Elemental

Preferably fire cuz I wound up with pyromancer robes, but not too strongly attached to the idea
Just want to shred cataclysm bosses with wizard shenanigans

[deft badger]

you can drygmy cataclysm bosses

btw

[solemn gust]

I'm aware

Just would like to also be capable of killing them lmao

[carmine nest]

If this Iframe bypass still works...
https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1105253489820565504

apparently when you use a fire focus, adding heal before flare ignores iframes, do repeatedly for massive damage

Also does AOE, of course, so use with care around your villagers

[prisma smelt]

//After playing a little bit
I discovered something to counter leap

If player using only leap to escape
Snaring with cobweb will stop him completely
Just cast some with cobweb in offhand, and that's already sticky situation

//Another tip - summoner spell focus

Yes, manipulation spell focus is strong
but summoner's is different...

It says
Summoned creatures nearby will cast and when summoner casting those

... yes,
And , since those doesn't causing summoner's sickness

//Also, you can throw a lot of decoys on a hole
Hide it
And then cast

The literal "Killer Quinn Nuke"

... it's them casting
So, this explosion will hurt you as well
So
beware
... better make obsidian shelter before doing this

[sage hedge]

It does.

[sage hedge]

Summoner is actually very strong. The only thing holding it back from being the best focus is that twin focusing is broken in 1.20 and it truly shines when used in conjunction with other focues

[prisma smelt]

//"Twin focusing"?
You mean, having other focuses with ars elemental?

[marsh nebula]

What is “iframes”

[deft badger]

Inviniciblity Frames

[flint maple]

I fixed that a month ago at least

anyway, the horse bomb is not bad at all

but with orbit moved to be an effect instead of a form brings the focus to only recast self spells

note, you can still use onSummon propagation

like proj -> horse-> aoes -> explosion will explode the horses right away

[bold verge]

necromancy and summoning focus is very much beyond busted

[sage hedge]

I think the thing that really changed in 1.20 is the piece.

(and sometimes ) lets you do ridiculous things as a summoner.

And it isn't limited to decoy spam.

For example, it makes Vexes incredibly annoying.

An AoE dispel, for example!

is a good example of how to make everyone sad when they're being chased by vexes.

And while it doesn' work on bosses, it works on a lot of mobs, which is nice!

[fervent hawk]

so I feel like most of the burst spells I've seen have been using to use block-placing type spells, or just generally targeting blocks. I see far fewer spells meant to affect entities in a burst

but fills a vital function in being able to turn any effect into an AOE, which also means you have to worry a bit less about aiming

like burst/ignite/flare type stuff for instance. Yeah flare is AOE, but you need to hit a creature directly. Burst lets you be less accurate

[deft badger]

I have recently developed a dislike for aoe mob targeting spells. I have my base a bit below surface level (made with break+freeze to make a blue ice base in water). I was using shocking thread and then cut/harm + discharge to kill mobs on the surface, I go back into the ice cave and half my starbuncles are gone.

[fervent hawk]

yeah gotta be careful. That's why I mostly stopped using Chain damage spells, but also the Filter glyphs from TMG are massively helpful in this area. If I have an area damage spell, I make sure to put a Filter:Monster on it

[deft badger]

Will it also stop discharge propogation or do i need a different spell

[flint maple]

umh, if you put it before discharge it should

but you'd need to test to be sure

[deft badger]

Probably will test. Just concerned if i hit a zombie with filter before and it propogates to my starbuncles

[fervent hawk]

put the filter after burst

filters are pretty good at preventing this kind of tragedy, if you make proper use of them

the only thing filters do is say "stop the spell here if the filter doesn't match"

so if you burst, then burst selects entities to process the spell on. Each of those entities would have a check against the filter. If the check fails, the spell stops for that target

now, the AOE on discharge and whatnot, I don't know about that... but this is also why I'm advocating that we need more single-target damage options to then combine with Burst and filters for more advanced targeting

[flint maple]

i've put a failsafe in elemental so that damage glyphs look for a filter right before them

[fervent hawk]

oh nice

[flint maple]

mostly to avoid the aoe

discharge has the highest aoe probably, or at least the highest modifier

[vagrant swift]

Anyone know how to conjure water level to your foot? I want to get the effect of burst but only from my feet down but not just below it like underfoot

[vital night]

Underfoot -> Linger? That's my best guess

[vagrant swift]

figured it out it was

[lusty walrus]

Would " : filter_not_player: " spells trigger on decoys while not harming the caster?

[fervent hawk]

hm... dunno! They probably don't count as players, but I've never tested it. I almost never use Decoy

[lusty walrus]

It'd probably be devastating using vexes. To the server, I mean. Lol

Hmmm... If decoys don't trigger summoning sickness, does that mean they'd also summon vexes if I did?

[azure ice]

You'd want the filter after the burst

[zealous vine]

Okay, it seems like chaining - I think it's hitting everything the Fangs hit with the ignite-flare combo but honestly at this point the combo does so much damage it could be an indirect Flare hit

[lusty walrus]

ty.

[latent spoke]

an idea i just remembered i wanted to make but couldn't seem to get to work when i tried is a spell that traps someone for a short moment then after a bit blows them up
i tried this with

it isn't the exact order i put it in but it just blew the person hit with it up instead of having the delay

[fervent hawk]

delay needs to be before the thing that you want to delay

spells read left to right, says "wait about a second before continuing"

[latent spoke]

alright thanks

[zealous vine]

So. Reactive 4 with with full Pyromancer loadout is basically MegaThorns except no durability damage and it basically one-shots Endermen.

I suspect other Ars Elemental users would find similar results using their own 'basic' combo instead on top of the Fangs

[queen charm]

me when my buddy punches me for the bit and gets fucking eviscerated by my sentient magical armor

[zealous vine]

Punch an Aeromancer and get yeeted into space for a bunch of Wind Shear

[zealous vine]

So, I had to remove the Reactive on the boots because it triggers on any damage, including, say, Sourceberry bushes. Which naturally disrupts farming them xD

Going to have to think of useful defensive spells for Reactive to trigger with

[carmine nest]

I use reactive with Mana Bubble :D
No more need to cast it myself!

[zealous vine]

Nice :D

I need to get the stuff for that, though today I got all 60 tier 1 glyphs in my current pack

[spiral tree]

#1063651803033501736 message

this is just a link to scroll up to the first message lol

took me absolute hours

[spare bobcat]

Hello guys, on my server there are only such spells. What can I make from them to cause a lot of damage in battle?

[queen charm]

against mobs or players

how well do you want it to target

block destruction or entity damage

mana cost

give us some parameters

[eternal zodiac]

I didn't think this deserved its own thread but I made a cool spell I wanted to share:
"Mira's Shell Game"
:propagate_arc:
What this spell does, if you can't intuit it already, is that, when someone bumps into you, it not only switches your place with them, but also spawns an army of decoys that also trigger your orbits to switch with them a couple times. Normal decoy armies have the unfortunate side effect that, even if you teleport into them, they can still see you appear at a different time, or follow the trail of a projectile, or any other number of ways of tracking you. But with this, it's basically impossible to spot you unless they hit you with a spectral arrow or something (in which case, why are you using a decoy spell at all?).
Advantages vs a normal decoy field:

• Very fun when put as a reactive spell on armor
• Basically makes you immune to melee mobs
• Tuned to work more effectively against players
• Each time you cast it, you exchange three more times, likely hitting a different decoy some of the time

Cons:

• Must hit a mob/player to work- doesn't work right due to the use of
• Useless for travel or for moving out of the way of AoE spells
• Relatively high cost, but it's really cool, so who cares

If anyone has any ideas for modifying or anything, lmk!

[sage hedge]

Do a spell with and the Fire Gatling trick. You have everything you need to be a menace to everything but like the Wither and Ender Dragon.

[solemn roost]

guys know what the best spell damage is. I have ars omega and elemental

[eternal zodiac]

I beg you to look at one of the 1000 spell damage threads

[solemn roost]

I mean ars omega spells

[eternal zodiac]

I guarantee you most if not all will work there

[narrow mortar]

so uh.......do vex not attack the ender dragon?

they and the skeletons/revenants just crowd around me.

I've put it into survival, damaged the dragon, got damaged by it, nothing

weird, as my summoned vex die, they drop inferium

........talk about a cheap farm

[flint maple]

dragon is immune from non-player attack anyway

not sure about mob targeting, but probably it's constantly out of range

[latent scaffold]

has anyone ever done any cool stuff with reactive + enchanters sword? i was thinking about it since the amplify from the sword is pretty valuable

would it be viable to have a reactive touch sensitive on sword to summon an entity and use the entity to trigger the sword’s spell?

[bold verge]

no, as you would get the summoner's sickness, therefore making the spell useless

[latent scaffold]

might still work w what i wanna do but that’s true

another question

is linger as good as wall for iframe bypass spam dmg?

or is it situational

[bold verge]

its very situational

if you can spam a lot of linger its decent

otherwise it would be useless unless you use propagate self -> propagate [other]

[latent scaffold]

i wanna make an aquamancer domain expansion type spell just for fun

so far (using wand or maybe that sword thing cuz a “cooldown” wouldn’t be too bad for this) i have but i wanna add watery grave

are self spells viable for what i want? if i make a self wall prop or self linger will i be targeted?

[long basin]

why do you have heal?
damage cooldown bypass only works if they have the hellfire status afaik

[latent scaffold]

yeah but would the thread not proc?

in this case?

[sinful quiver]

Just use your favorite lightning spell and replace the lightning lol

[solemn roost]

Guys I'm sorry to ask but do you know any necromancy spell combo? I have focus of necromancy

[eternal zodiac]

If you're looking for something that will deal 70000 damage, it's not gonna happen with necromancy. You can get a mean army of amplified summon undead tho

[cobalt pasture]

Do you know where this is? I keep getting errors when I go there. One of the spells in it is an answer to the question here https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1217210431576473762

[queen charm]

woaw

oh this is the 1.16 compendium

[eternal zodiac]

Small win, but I put on reactive armor to negate poison-esque effects but the fire became a huge problem. But it turns out that works to put out fire too! Even in the nether! So I'm pretty pumped to discover that

[maiden crane]

Ooh, that's pretty cool; I've never really had a summon water / douse self spell on hand whenever I got set on fire xD The way I dealt with it was making an Immolate thread early on when prepping to go to the nether to get Mage Book materials

Then I'd just fire off an attack spell whenever I got set on fire, usually by a blaze, and the thread consumes the flame
Then I just kept the thread in a L1 slot for the rest of the game and never really thought about it

[eternal zodiac]

I play 1.18, before threads, so this is very important to have

[cobalt pasture]

Better to put just after , that way it doesn't negate any effects that come after. I usually use it like

Gives Nightvision and bounce, as well as put out fire and poison.

[flint maple]

Why evap tho?

[cobalt pasture]

So you don't leave water sources all over the place.

[flint maple]

It's a self spell

It won't place water

[cobalt pasture]

So, overthinking it. 🤦

Also, thanks for the Grimoire, even in text form. The one spell the guy was asking about, I usually find the book for, but just haven't this play through, at least yet.

[flint maple]

That file type is awful so I had to copy the text and paste

[lone gale]

guess that works lmao

[queen charm]

#1141341426223960064 message
@lone gale also no unfortunately

[lone gale]

damnit

[queen charm]

the main point of optimization would probably be using explosion spells to substitute TNT for the source of acceleration

assuming they work the same mostly

[lone gale]

you got a modpack with most of the ars addons?

the relevant ones anyway

[queen charm]

I'm running a 1.20.1 server with elemental and instrumentum

[lone gale]

gimme gimme

[queen charm]

ye

[queen charm]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1220479731401756772

thread for discussion

[blazing heath]

you fucking SAINT

i will WORSHIP you

ALEX FOR SERVER OWNER

[dire tinsel]

Will the geomancer garb enhance spells making use of the focus of block shaping?

[sage hedge]

Yes.

In that

Many spells that benefit from the block shaping focus like launch get benefits.

Or so I recall? I saw the damage go up 🙂

[eternal zodiac]

I would think aeromancer would be better to buff launch and knockback and stuff

[prisma lichen]

Kinda pointless for normal play, and probably requires more than default slots, but is an AOE, gravity, knockback spell, that can make a target go fast enough to pass through blocks possible?

[eternal zodiac]

I'm not sure you can go through blocks like that- I do know that CubicMetre has done multiple iterations of the Orbital Strike Cannon where he says that a projectile moving fast and far enough will have its motion calculated one axis at a time but I'm really not sure if that applies to players

Getting targets moving that fast requires so much TnT

In short, probably not, but if it was possible, it would take many glyphs

[brisk prairie]

it looks like dampen may not work on Break to break just dirt. Trying to make a dirt generator. Any suggestions?

[flint idol]

Default break is iron, you can reduce to stone with a single dampen. Wood with two. In theory, fist with 3

What are you doing to generate the dirt that you're trying to break?

[brisk prairie]

Cobblestone generator

then azalea

[flint maple]

With elemental, Conjure Terrain is a literal dirt generator

[brisk prairie]

and thats what I was hoping for

[clear furnace]

yo what is the best elemental armor set?
earth, fire, water, or air?
if there isnt a "best" one, what do each of them do or like bonuses for using each of them

[sullen sky]

there isn't a best one

[clear furnace]

so then what do each of them do

[sullen sky]

fire boosts fire damage and reduces costs

[clear furnace]

benifits from each

[sullen sky]

and if u get inflicted with fire you get mana regen

and every element is essentially a repeat of this formula

[clear furnace]

soooo

Fire = nether and pvp
Earth = building/mining
Water = ass
Air = travel/exploring

thats what i understand

[lone gale]

"Water = ass" is so true icl

[sullen sky]

my fav is air because it's super fun to have both mobility and damage

water is underpowered, but boy is it handy when you need to cross an ocean

[lone gale]

just

[sullen sky]

#1113763115151142943 also levels up the ddamage aspect

it paralyzes mobs without needing to use

[lone gale]

[clear furnace]

what bout earth tho?

[lone gale]

ocean problems solved

[clear furnace]

i love mining and building cool farms

[clear furnace]

i got that too lol

[sullen sky]

earth is nice, definitely the one i played the least with tho

i can say that it's pretty good if u want to stick with base

[latent scaffold]

earth is best for single target damage iirc

fire is best for pure aoe/chaining dmg and air is best for mobility but barely sacrifices damage if at all, u can put up crazy numbers with air

imo air is easily the best but u can argue that they each have their strengths

ive thought about swapping from air to earth for single target (cuz i keep killing my friend by accident) or water (for aesthetic!) but cons seem to outweigh switching from air

[lone gale]

water is just ass in general, dont

[eternal zodiac]

In 1.18 (before threads) water is kinda fun, I move at Mach 10 in the ocean and the freeze-cold snap i-frame skip sans hellfire is nice

I play a pirate on my server with friends and I highly recommend trying it at least once

Maybe not optimal, but being suboptimal sometimes gives you more room for creative expression

[sullen sky]

the main thing about aquamancer is making an underwater base

at least that's the appeal to it for me

but the thread of depths makes that available for everyone

[fervent hawk]

the depths thread has that super underwater speed built into the water breathing though, and honestly that speed can be too much for actually navigating around underwater

water focus gives the dolphin's grace effect, which is also a bit more than I want constantly

[sullen sky]

i find it adequate

but maybe that's cuz i play with 2 air bangles all the time

[fervent hawk]

dolphin's grace makes underwater movement too slippery for me

like I'm always going to overshoot my target because of the low friction movement

like I'm both in the air and on ice

that's how dolphin's grace feels to me

[sullen sky]

it happens, but usually the water exploration is for ocean monument and mega underground bases

i don't have a need for swift movements like that

atm9 tho, i don't know why or how i did it, but i went so fast that chunks didn't load, it was actually painful

[dapper night]

Pair Aquamancer + dolphins with Apotheosis Gems and Enchants you zoom at 10 chunks a second

[lone gale]

hear me out: origins merling

[vital night]

You think thats impressive? Add the glide thread and see how high you can go

I think I've gone over a thousand blocks up once before, exact numbers not remembered

[latent scaffold]

have there been any ideas to make interesting designs with a spell? like using conjure or place blocks to make different shapes or patterns? i’m wondering how much visual spice you can add to a spell

[flint idol]

I've done a direwolf 9x9 when you set the config to allow a lot more glyphs in a spell. Basically the interior with mage block, then another big cuboid with place block/conjure terrain with more pierce and AOE to make the outer wall

[latent scaffold]

wait what is dire wolf 9x9 >.<

[flint idol]

Direwolf20 is a YouTuber who has specialized in modded Minecraft for about 12 years. But while he knows a ton about a bunch of mods, he always jokes that he doesn't know how to build. So his first base in every series is a square 9x9 made of cobblestone

He later then expands by simply adding more of those together

[latent scaffold]

is ur spell like a layered cube kinda thing? having a hard time picturing it

[flint idol]

Let's see if I can remember what all it was.

Self underfoot conjure terrain aoe9 mage block pierce 3 AOE 7 conjure terrain pierce 4 AOE 9 amp

So underfoot. Targets at your feet aimed up. First conjure terrain makes a dirt floor

Mage block pierce 3aoe 7 creates a big rectangle around the player. Pierce is aimed up, so it covers you 3 high (4 if you count the floor, but it's already dirt now)

Next conjure terrain does the same as the mage block, but bigger in all directions. But since the middle blocks are now already mage block, it only places the shell

Amplified to be cobblestone of course

Finally the mage block disappears and you're left with a hollow square box

[latent scaffold]

oooh cool

the way ars can be used in so many niche ways is why i love it so much

[flint idol]

Burst can work well also for spheres

And I think specifically a dampened burst is hollow anyway, so no need for the "mold" with the mageblock filling

Burst is also interesting in that the shape itself applies to the rest of the spell

While with underfoot, I had to have all the aoes on each part of the spell. Burst AOE 5 is a 5 radius sphere for the rest of the spell

[flint maple]

you can probably optimize the spell a bit with pPlane

[flint idol]

Oh yeah. Haven't done much testing with that one.

[rocky cove]

i mean im not the best at spells but you could do this [prop under] [conjure terrain] x4 x3

works without infinite spell demo

Is there a way to launch arrows at mach 10 with explosion without the arrow going up?

[flint idol]

Short answer is "probably, but still tweaking it"

#1220479731401756772

[narrow mortar]

how?

erupt a block of ice, I'm assuming that's one big block rather than multiple smaller blocks

but it doesn't say how, is it an augment? equipment? some other glyph?

[dense mountain]

I think it's just referring to sending out the ice chunks and was worded akwardly

[narrow mortar]

is that right? it definitely looks like an entire other sentence though

damn, thought I had it, putting pull after cold snap makes all the blocks come together and rush toward you

for a very split second, I thought they reassembled

[bold verge]

with earth focus will make it work

[dense mountain]

Oh wait myb it means you're able to cast cold snap on an existing block of ice in the world and cause it erupt into the ice blocks as well

[eternal zodiac]

Welcome back to Mira's Spell Corner! I had an idea for a very simple thing that is super useful on a multi-player server.
If you make a permanent rune of with sensitive to make sure it goes to your inventory, you can make it so anyone at the base can drop things into your inventory, which is just nice if you, say, run out of food 10000 blocks away or something

[blazing heath]

oh my god

ORR

enchanters eye a chest

[fervent hawk]

chests have a hard-coded interaction range

[eternal zodiac]

Do what to a chest now

[blazing heath]

damn

storage lectern

[eternal zodiac]

I've never heard of this

Is it because I play just with elemental in 1.18

Or should I know this

[fervent hawk]

Enchanter's Eye I think is 1.19+

[eternal zodiac]

I still like my way

It teleports funny things to your inventory and that's cool

[blazing heath]

it is

[eternal zodiac]

My bf exclusively uses it to teleport roasted marshmallows on a stick from farmers delight into my hotbar

[blazing heath]

that is the best thing i have heard this month

[eternal zodiac]

I'm gonna marry him someday and this will be one of the reasons

[blazing heath]

im not gay but like

if a guy did this to me

im switchin teams

[fervent hawk]

so there's another fun thing with sensitive runes, if some entity touches the rune it will swap places with you. I use this to make a "recall" rune, and hook up redstone to drop an item on it

[blazing heath]

@eternal zodiac switch yours to this and jumpscare ur boyfriend

[eternal zodiac]

What a good idea

[eternal zodiac]

<3

[sick oyster]

this also works with blink doesnt it? although it may be a somewhat jank interaction

[latent scaffold]

there’s no tricky ways to do remote casting right? like i can’t set up a turret or something and have it cast on me wherever i am (granted chunks are loaded)

[flint idol]

It depends. Rune sensitive will use the player inventory. So remote sending of items (or pulling with toss) is possible

#1207058223421595749 has some tools and glyphs that might be useful

[latent scaffold]

i’m mostly thinking about certain effects and specifically the ways imbue can be used

wait i forgot about the new reliquary glyphs that might work

i need to start playing with those

[flint idol]

Reactive armor with imbue could work. You could set up a pair of toss/pickup runes to pull your first slot on the hotbar to swap out for full flasks every so often

[latent scaffold]

ooh interesting

[flint idol]

Just don't put anything else in slot 1

[latent scaffold]

oh

you can’t use scrolls?

for glass bottles

[flint idol]

I mean if you have an automated system to have a rune sensitive toss for pulling items from your inventory

Might be better to have instead a warp scroll to your flask refill system. Then you can blink empty flasks home, and have them auto go back to your inventory with rune sensitive pickup

[tall ore]

Hello guys, i have a strange request. i wanted to know if there is a way to:
-create a sphere somewhere of anymaterial
-this sphere has to float (or i can launch it) to the top
-the sphere collapse as if it was a sphere of sand that goes on the ground: so it goes until there is a block that stops it

I tried: but it goes until it falls it doesn't attach to the ceiling

[forest mortar]

Snare will solidify it

[tall ore]

Mh, that's actually smart but it needs to be timed otherwise the block will not move, and could happens that the block stops before or after touched the ceiling

[forest mortar]

use delay

[tall ore]

yeah but then it starts to fall on the ground again

[forest mortar]

hm, you can try to tweak the delay timings but not sure if there is a perfect one that will give you a sphere every time

the issue is that they dont work on a grid so unless you are doing this with a turret it will result in some of them being broken

[tall ore]

they idea was to shape a cave and the sand is the perfect way because it falls like a mountain, if i was able to do the same in the opposite way it was perfect. at the end i will do a moutain with sand, replace the blocks with something solide and with the schematicannon of create flip it. Do you know if there is a way to provide me infinite mana? Even in a cheating way, i was looking a way with the source but it does not seem possible

[forest mortar]

You can set your attributes in creative to give yourself a huge amount of mana

[tall ore]

thanks ❤️

[narrow mortar]

So ice spikes, I can't remember what makes them icy (focus? armor? ring? a glyph?) but it seems I can't make ice spikes if I use them on a rune. Is this intended?

[blazing heath]

ICE SPIKES ARE A THING??

[flint maple]

Water focus+spike

Visual gimmick + slow, but no damage boost

[blazing heath]

das cool

[sullen sky]

pun intended

[blazing heath]

no

[narrow mortar]

but yeah, tested a direct-attack spell with ice spikes and they work fine, I guess the fact that I'm using them via rune is breaking the ice part

[dapper night]

I dont recall but does work with a stabilized warp scroll?

I threw on a dodge chance gem from apotheosis, and i keep dodging my own turrets

[azure ice]

Yes

[turbid light]

Try using

[flint idol]

Runes should work just fine. Don't need sensitive if it's in a chest next to it. Sensitive is just if you want it to use your inventory

[molten bone]

any way to break a block you've placed with the same spell? trying to do some simple fortune mining of some silk touched ores

ah, focus of block shaping lets you do it

[stark trout]

So, I know 'how I kill dragon' has been done before and there are a few solid methods, but I'm going to ask a slightly different question:

What is the most hilariously spectacular way you can think of to use Ars to take out the Ender Dragon? Includes Elemental, but NOT TMG. Chain silliness is verboten.

I'm 100% looking for the 'YOU DID WHAT?' responses.

[flint idol]

My first thought is to throw it in a containment jar

That has specific benefits as well. You can get dragons breath from the jar then. It doesn't "defeat" the dragon though @stark trout

Makes a nice paperweight on your desk at home as well

For actually defeating it. There's some discussion on #1220479731401756772 for accelerating arrows fast enough to potentially one shot her

[stark trout]

But that's been discussed and really isn't killing it.

Is that the arrow-cannon thread?

[flint idol]

I couldn't get her to actually be hit by . But with create mega fireworks you can get single shot kills on the wither easily. I'm not sure why they went right through the dragon

[stark trout]

I was wondering if anyone had something silly like turning the obsidian towers into flack-cannons by tossing the blocks up with an explode attached to them or something, although I haven't played with blocks-as-projectiles so I don't know if that's feasible.

Always appreciate your input Zieg. Will have a look at the arrow-cannon.

[cobalt pasture]

Couldn't you shoot beds that then explode?

[eternal zodiac]

Oh god

Would (bed) with block shaper's work?

[flint idol]

It'll probably stop you from actually using it. But worth a shot

[stark trout]

That's pretty brilliant, gotta admit.

[flint idol]

I know that in the overworld, I can't use projectile interact with a bed on an eye to sleep

But if you're lucky it might still do the explosion in the nether

[fervent hawk]

yes

interact works at range to explode beds in places other than the overworld

which also means... that respawn anchors would do the same in the overworld

[bold verge]

time for BOMBS

[stark trout]

Is that a matter of range-to-bed for purposes of sleeping, though? It sounds like it might be from what Xacris is saying.
Guess I will find out.

[fervent hawk]

yeah, the range check is only for if you can sleep in the bed

I have done the exploding bed at range thing using , can confirm it works

[stark trout]

Awesome.

[flint idol]

Makes sense. To the game it's two separate checks I guess. It doesn't explode when you get in bed. It explodes the instant you right click it

[stark trout]

Apparently!

[chilly otter]

Hey can someone explain to me how exchange works? From what I understand, if there is a recipient and a caster, it will swap their positions, but when there is only a recipient, a queue of their 2 most recent exchange positions is stored, the oldest one is dequeued, the new location is queued, and the remaining second location is where the recipient is placed. What I want to understand is why this spell is considering the exchange rune to have only a recipient but no caster, and how to fix it

[fervent hawk]

[chilly otter]

ooh ok lemme try that

omg you saved my life

how does that work exactly?

[fervent hawk]

sensitive makes a rune use you as a caster, otherwise it doesn't use you

[chilly otter]

ohhhh ok, makes sense

[fervent hawk]

this will also make a rune use your inventory for any spells that use an inventory

so will teleport items and XP orbs to you regardless of distance

[chilly otter]

this fall damage trap currently does 5.5 hearts, anyone know a way to squeeze some more damage out of it?

[blazing heath]

[chilly otter]

oh yeah that kills you

much better

[fervent hawk]

gravity without extend time is just a one-time sudden downward force

with extend time, applies a potion effect that continually pushes them down and multiplies fall damage

[flint idol]

Couldn't hurt to also add dripstone to the bottom

[chilly otter]

can someone explain reset to me?

[blazing heath]

no idk how it works either

[chilly otter]

from what i understand, it prevents spells that look for other spells from looking past it? so for example, rune, X, reset, will prevent rune from applying to anything after the reset

idk if theres other uses for it

[flint maple]

exiting from spells like burst or linger

or from the blockshaping focus

if without reset, any glyph will resolve in the new area, the glyphs after reset will resolve in the original area

[dense mountain]

E.g. shoots a projectile, say it collides with a grass block. It then constructs a hollow sphere of mageblocks where the projectile hits, and then sets that original grass block you hit with the projectile on fire

without the reset, the spell would have tried to target everything within the hollow sphere shape with the ignite

[sullen sky]

makes a "fire ball"

if i could squeeze in 2 more glyphs with the it'd be an actual fireball

[dense mountain]

yeah its also good for layering bursts on top of each other

[sullen sky]

cuz

that glyph alone adds valid arguments for more glyphs slots lol

[stark trout]

So, having taken a shot at Jean with Avalanche (renamed 'Chill Out') and Thawed/Mira's 'Beddy-Bye Time' showed a few things: 1.20.2 Jean is absolutely immune to cold slow/stun effects, and that it would take roughly 30-35 beds or so to kill her. It's cute, but I can't quite say it's spectacular.
Definitely a hilarious spell to pull out in the Nether for clearing irritations, though.

[eternal zodiac]

I love that

[flint maple]

this is what i call a weird test spell

lag just because this pc is in potato mode

[lone gale]

what in the name of all that is holy is that

[blazing heath]

bro what addon are those glyphs from 😭

[lone gale]

are those even out yet

i've never seen them

[flint maple]

NEG #addon-announcements

[blazing heath]

WAIT IS THAT THE ONE THAT PORTS PROPAGATE UNDERFOOT

[chilly otter]

are spells like coldsnap and flare similar to harm, do i need a delay between multiple uses of it?

[turbid light]

Yes

[chilly otter]

Where should luck be placed to get use out of it?

should it be before or after the damage?

this is how I have it rn

[sinful quiver]

Luck is an augment so it only affects a single effect glyph (the blue ones)

So you'd need luck after each harm glyph

[chilly otter]

ah ok

[sinful quiver]

And if the sword damage kills them I'm not sure there's anything you can do about that

[flint idol]

Looting on the sword will work regardless though

[long sorrel]

Hey all how goes it

I've got a couple questions regarding spell functionality 🫤

I've seen online, and maybe in game, that if you add the "propagate X" glyph to the wall glyph it'll fire whatever glyph(s) come next... fairly rapidly... is that fairly accurate?

[blazing heath]

Pretty much, you need

[long sorrel]

Can u do the same with Mage block 🤔

[blazing heath]

No

Wall is not solid

Wall applies an effect to an entity

With sensitive it applies on every block in the wall area

The thing it applies is a propagate, that pretty much shoots a projectile type

[long sorrel]

so could i cast it on a player and have "the player" fire my spells... in theory?

in my mind i'm thinking something like dnd's cast through a familiar

[blazing heath]

interesting theory

i think propagate missile x2 would do that

[long sorrel]

missile?

is that just projectile?

[blazing heath]

its a projectil, but if it goes for long enough without hitting anything it activates midair

[long sorrel]

i'm going artificery so i'm using lightning, would linger or wall be better for rapid lightning strikes?

[long sorrel]

What kind of Heal setup would you suggest for a player with ~30hp?

I'm thinking of putting heal on my shield, to just heal on block

Tho I'm trying to keep it cheap enough to be free, or as close too, in regards to the shields mana regen on block effect 😅

[lone gale]

uhh armor with reactive

[sick oyster]

linger would be better cos its a flat shape on the ground so you get more aoe on target, if you use accellerate on linger it strikes more often

[sullen sky]

you just... made a black hole

[blazing heath]

no he didnt

[sick oyster]

bro made a flippy flopper

[lone gale]

imma make a damn black hole dont test me

[turbid light]

(obsidian)?

Pull 'em in and drown them in obsidian

[lone gale]

i was thinking netherite blocks (on the server im on i have littearlly infinite of it)

[chilly otter]

ive finally unlocked tier 3 glyphs? what are the possibilities? How do i get more damage than i was previously?

[turbid light]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1105253489820565504

[turbid light]

Or just look around in this channel. You aren't the first one to have asked this question and some if not most have received an adequate answer that you can search.

[long sorrel]

So I seem to be having trouble with a spell I put on my crossbow

And I used to get multiple arrows, but now I just get one

[dense mountain]

you don't put forms on enchanter's tools

[long sorrel]

I just copied what the crossbow has on it 🤷‍♂️

Like it's been working, last night it just stopped

[fervent hawk]

you aren't using potion arrows or some other special arrow apart from the Ars ones, have you? Cause spell arrows don't work with potion arrows or other special arrows to my knowledge

[long sorrel]

Nope I have a quiver full of splits

I haven't changed anything just logged in and now I only get the one arrow... it also seems to bounce off and fall to the ground🤷‍♂️

[dense mountain]

Does it work if the split arrows are in your inventory instead of quiver?

[long sorrel]

Doesn't seem to make a difference

[flint maple]

Could be tied to enchants or simila?

[long sorrel]

It's still Carving out a decent sized hole, I just used to get 4 holes 🫤

I did recently put Multishot III on it 🤔

[stark trout]

Is that recently-in-the-neighborhood-of-when-it-stopped-working-like-I-expected?

[worn ginkgo]

is there any repair spell

to repair armor?

[azure ice]

No, either use a repair thread or wait longer

[eternal zodiac]

You could put mending on it!

[flint idol]

Mending and unbreaking goes on everything

[eternal zodiac]

Sure does!

[cobalt pasture]

Soulbound, too, if you have access to it.

And yes, you can put it on spellbooks.

[coral bronze]

Whatd I do wrong?
Did iframe reset get patched or do I need Fire Focus to do that?

[sinful quiver]

You need a fire focus yes

[coral bronze]

What gear/setup do I need for the gatling gun thing to actually do significant damage

[bold verge]

just wanted to ask (since i am not on my computer), but would using create the water, and then make a single explosion ?

[bold verge]

fire focus, pyromancer armour, damage thread T3, kindeling thread T3

[blazing heath]

Yuh

U need on tho

[bold verge]

i forgot about it

[turbid light]

I guess one could also create a popping bubble

[whole axle]

anyone knows how to make an elevator on 1.20.1 with glyps? or tp?

[flint idol]

Or

with a warp scroll in an adjacent chest

[sullen sky]

I think ars trinkets adds those

[bold verge]

no?

[whole axle]

is possible to grow nether wart with glyps? because i cant 😦 im playing in 1.20.1

[turbid light]

It might not be. As the plant cannot be bonemealed in the base game, which is why it isn't in the list of plants that grow from

[whole axle]

Btw you now good set of glyps for sword or bow/xbow or shield?

[turbid light]

Just have a look https://ars.guide/spells/combat/aggressive/

[bold verge]

When you need to trigger hellfire, is the Fire Focus mandatory, or is that just a legacy thing ? solved

[sullen sky]

Then extended glyphs, mb

[scenic merlin]

What does soulbound do?

[scenic merlin]

Why do you need water

[bold verge]

it was meant as an example sprll

not anything practical

[cobalt pasture]

@scenic merlin Souilbound means that when you die, it stays with you.

[scenic merlin]

What can be enchanted with soulbound

[sinful quiver]

Pretty much anything as far as I know

[scenic merlin]

Can a spellbook be enchanted

[azure ice]

Yes

[lone gale]

littearly everything

i could swear i have a dirt block with soulbound on atm9

[scenic merlin]

That would be funny to see

[flint idol]

Enchant your dirt block with reactive 4 touch Conjure terrain

[bold verge]

it’s all fun until you right click w/ it

[sullen sky]

We need curse of unbinding

You can’t right click with any item that has that

[turbid light]

?
So make it unable to be used or worn?

[sullen sky]

On items

[turbid light]

Yeah, I mean like in general.
Blocks can't be placed, items can't be used, armour can't be worn

[scenic merlin]

Would attacking with an item count

[turbid light]

Dunno. But would make sense

[worn ginkgo]

what the best spell u can put on enchanter sword to do most dmg 1.16.5

[sullen sky]

The purpose of it is to not place the block, so an opposite version would be more appropriate for left click

[maiden crane]

How do you get craft to only effect people around you

[scenic merlin]

Try orbit and if you have a not self filter, use that

[eternal zodiac]

In later versions, you can't. Earlier ones can cause someone you hit with a spell to craft, but this was removed to prevent probably exactly what you intend to do with it

[flint maple]

nah, it was never allowed

if you saw it possible, it's because Omega has a glyph that swaps the roles of caster and target

[maiden crane]

If I use swap roles would it work?

[flint maple]

I don't remember the exact name of the glyph, should be swap, but should be still possible

[turbid light]

I think it was swap target

[bold verge]

^^^

[olive jewel]

Anyone have suggestions on spells to put on the enchanter sword?

Using Ars Elemental and TMG

[eternal zodiac]

Welcome to Mira's Terrible Spell Corner, where I talk about spells that didn't work
I tried to make a spell that I called the Everyspell, intending to be able to deal every kind of damage and therefore kill anything.

My main go was with :homing: :poison_spores: , fired twice: once to give the status effects, and once to actually damage. I also tried removing the last two glyphs and adding two splits to make it a single spell.

In practice, this does not do nearly enough damage to do much of anything at all. If anyone has an improved variant on this, I'd love to hear, but for now, it is going to the Dream Graveyard from hit movie Sharkboy and Lavagirl (2005)

[flint idol]

The reason it doesn't work is a thing called iframes. Invulnerability frames.

[eternal zodiac]

I know what I-frames are lol (tho tbh I forgot about them so that's fair, that would be why this failed)

[flint idol]

In short, you can only take one instance of damage every half second or so.

You just hit them with like 6 things at once, so only the highest hurts

[eternal zodiac]

Theoretically the concept still works tho, as it's just meant to be able to damage any entity

Idk if it even does

Think I need another harm or something

[flint idol]

Also good news, ignite flare doesn't need a second cast to cause damage with the flare

No delay needed even. It'll just work. Same with any of the glyphs that need a status effect to work

Though definitely worth noting that the wither, dragon, and wardens are immune to most effects, so flare and cold snap simply wouldn't work on them regardless

[eternal zodiac]

Wait really? I actually didn't know it would just work, I used to always delay them haha

[turbid light]

As far as I know can hurt anything.

So you could have [p.homing] and it should hurt anything.

From lowly mobs to high speed flyers

[blazing heath]

Launch is funny

Cuz it adds speed, not sets it

So u could do harm cannon but instead of damage its

And it would send anything FLYING

[flint idol]

Multishot crossbow. Also in general it's cheaper and better to use multiple launch instead of amplify launch

Have fun in orbit when you get hit with 5 projectiles that all have 5 launch

[turbid light]

*taking notes for my arrowcannon

[eternal zodiac]

Delay, launch, delay, gravity, extendtime

Very funny harm cannon spell

[wet field]

sorry to bother, trying to remember.

Is it the interaction between flare and a mob that was healed after that causes the i-frame damage immunity to be reset?

[flint idol]

Requires hellfire. Which needs elemental with the level 3 fire thread or the fire focus if I recall

[blazing heath]

Btw u need the delay at the start so all the projectiles hit the mob

[eternal zodiac]

That's why I put it there

[blazing heath]

I know lol

Kinda just informing other ppl

[eternal zodiac]

Ahhh oke

[polar idol]

Is there a glyph that hoes the dirt?

[azure ice]

from NEG

[polar idol]

NEG?

[azure ice]

Not Enough Glyphs

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1222861594657030205

[potent scarab]

i need to kill really op people im on 1.16.5 and we got bloodtome idk about any other ars related mods

[blazing heath]

Good luck

[potent scarab]

xd

[potent scarab]

How do i do the most instances of damage?

[turbid light]

Look through past threads

You wouldn't believe how many people ask this

[turbid light]

Harm Cannon is the strongest spell that I know

[potent scarab]

nah i just need instances of dmg and im on 1.16 no addons

[turbid light]

So good luck

[bold verge]

1.16 no addons is pretty rough

[unreal willow]

how about 1.19 no addons?

[eternal zodiac]

Less rough, but still not great

You at least have linger sensitive lightning

[unreal willow]

whats an early game spell that i can use to defeat hordes?
like tier 2

im playing on a modpack called Survival Unchained, and there's always a spam of mobs

[eternal zodiac]

That spell exactly will work

Throw some aoe on the linger and some amps on the lightning as you see fit

[flint idol]

Linger is t3 so won't work for them.

Simplest t2 AOE is probably going to be projectile freeze (can omit freeze if you have a chilling thread) cold snap amp amp

[eternal zodiac]

Oh duh they said t2

My bad

[thick acorn]

Still Harm Cannon. It does so many hits per second, it literally uses a special interaction to completely bypass iframes. You're doing something like 27 hits per tick.

[thick acorn]

I mean, if they don't mind the visual doo doo, Flare will do more on the long run if you can force them to stay in the mage fires

[potent scarab]

idk it

[eternal zodiac]

Isn't wall t3

[thick acorn]

Harm cannon doesn't use wall? Oh wait burst. My bad

[eternal zodiac]

Oh, old fire gatling used wall

[sullen sky]

#1255523457760890950

Anyone has any idea on how to do this

[blazing heath]

Not an option

1.16 doesnt have threads

[eternal zodiac]

Welcome back to Mira's Spell Corner, where I tell you about smaller, less revolutionary spells than Wrath of God. Today's spell is "Send Directly to Hell." You can cast it with x2 x4. This opens up a hole in the earth that runs to 25 blocks down that swallows up anyone unfortunate to be standing there, then fills it back in! It's effective against any non-teleporting ground mob, though you won't get their loot, but it's really fun, so that's okay

Also incredibly inconvenient against your friends which I find hilarious

[dry shadow]

lmao

Teleport to the Hole

[queen charm]

thank you for documenting surprise gulag

many dissidents will be sent directly to hole now

[blazing heath]

Ive tried to make spells like that but mine were not as good

[eternal zodiac]

So glad I could revolutionize the hole industry

[deft badger]

You should if there are no caves cause items float inside blocks eight

[eternal zodiac]

Sorry, could you rephrase that? I'm not sure I understand what you said

[turbid light]

I undestood it as:
"You should use it against mobs, as long as there are no caves (since that would not suffocate them), because the loot doesn't get truly lost. It is stuck between the blocks, all right"

[eternal zodiac]

That's true

[flint maple]

I'd argue that it will still dispose of them, even if without killing

[eternal zodiac]

Yeah, I'm fine with there being a cave

It gets rid of the target

[turbid light]

True

[eternal zodiac]

Might be more impactful in higher power mod packs

[fervent hawk]

the items would bubble up through the blocks

[eternal zodiac]

Where you're more likely to want to just not deal with a mob or player

[turbid light]

Though it seems they were more interested in the loot

[eternal zodiac]

From 25 blocks deep?

[fervent hawk]

when items are stuck in blocks they go up

people make item elevators with this

[eternal zodiac]

I guess I've just never stuck around an area I did that to long enough to see it happen

[flint idol]

Pretty common in redstone designs

[eternal zodiac]

Every time I needed items to go up I just built an extension with a water elevator if it needed to go more than a block or two up

[fervent hawk]

sometimes you can't use water (nether), or it's problematic for some reason

[eternal zodiac]

Solution is just to build things in the overworld only like a goddamn American

[deft badger]

It* should (get their loot) if there are no caves cause items float in blocks right?

[edgy igloo]

Absolute fastest way to destroy someone with lifelink assuming you can’t die ?

I’m thinking void but idk if that true damage translates to them too

[flint idol]

with a 7+ star firework on your hotbar

[bold verge]

with or without addons ? If yes, wgich ones?

[ionic stone]

.

[cosmic girder]

no clue what to call this, I threw this together in like 3 minutes when I was bored, looking for optimizations on the spell

[bold verge]

may i ask what is the name of the glyph to quickly apply the shocked effect in elemental?

[cosmic girder]

spark?

[bold verge]

ah this one

ty

[harsh glen]

Heya, had a quick question

Do flare and cold snap need a delay or can I just do ignite/freeze > flare/cold snap

Also is it intentional for explosion with 2+ amp / 1 aoe to ignore extract?

Trying to make spells that reasonably clear stuff without also leaving a giant hole in the floor, at t2 and below

So far i got ignite and freeze together to pop flare and cold snap

Discharge + spark but im fairly sure if im near the mob ill pop too

And rune + fireworks with delay

[flint maple]

Extract makes all the block broken drop, to not break blocks you need a

[harsh glen]

Wouldn’t dampen also reduce damage? Or could I get the same effect with a double amp after it?

[turbid light]

Nope. Dampen nullifies all block damage and reduces entity damage to near zero

[dense falcon]

yall um

so i need help makeing a spell i saw online for my world

it was a spell from ars elemantel

thay called it fire gatling thay somehow did like 3k damage

what spell combo would i use to make this?

@anyone

[turbid light]

Use the search function

[dense falcon]

yea ty but you see its a combo of spells and the vid doesint say witch ones

they just called it fire gatling

[turbid light]

🤦

[dense falcon]

???

[turbid light]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1105253489820565504

There is a thread for only that spell

And as far as I know it isn't a combo

[dense falcon]

tysm

[turbid light]

But what the hell do I know

[dense falcon]

i just looked a my book and i didnt see it

it looks like it is tysm

i can make it now

whered you find this?

[blazing heath]

Idk maybe with the search bar

[dense falcon]

on discord?

discord has that

i legit had no clue

i dont use servers vary often lol

ty

[dry shadow]

All knowledge is new to us at one point, don't worry about it

[dense falcon]

lol ty

[blazing heath]

Fair enough

[dense falcon]

ty

ive been puting off geting hex for so long

welll

i guess its time

blah

[blazing heath]

Also if ur playing on 1.20 fire gatling will be a tiny bit of a nightmare to clean up

Just a heads up

[dense falcon]

ty what about 1.21?

[azure ice]

1.21 doesn't have Ars yet

[blazing heath]

💀

[flint idol]

If you manage to get it on 1.21, I'll be impressed

[azure ice]

If you have 1.21 Ars please send it to us 😂

[dense falcon]

yes i does

[blazing heath]

U mean 1.20.1?

[dense falcon]

yes

sorry

LOLLL

my badddd

lol

[blazing heath]

Yeah 1.20 and 1.20.1 are the same thing

1.20.1 is just slightly better

[dense falcon]

womp womp

ok well mases are gonna be made than ):

[blazing heath]

I am trying to not be mean so hard here

[dense falcon]

masses

why whats wrong?

my typos?

im dislacksick

[queen charm]

link the message

you know you want to

[jade dragon]

my fav spell is called spooky lighting its

[blazing heath]

💀

[queen charm]

this is your favourite spell?

of every spell?

[jade dragon]

a joke(ish)

[queen charm]

i'm a little slow dont mind me

[jade dragon]

it looks like a clickbait utube intro which is why i like it

[wicked plume]

my fav spell is simply projectile -> break

too effective

[pine vessel]

It is definitely the reason why I stopped using any of my tools after I crafted the spellbook

The only time I need to bring out an axe is when I need to strip some logs for making Andesite Casings from the Create mod

[jade dragon]

frfr

or projectile break amp if ur mineing ores

[queen charm]

projectile break is psychotic

>>>

[sullen sky]

Eh either or

[turbid light]

Totally agree

Efficiency to the max

[sullen sky]

Flarecanon cost reduction

[peak jasper]

Does anyone have any ideas regarding a telekinesis-like spell? I’ve been experimenting with mixing pull and knock back but can’t quite figure it out

[turbid light]

The spells are definitely too strong

And depending on what you want to move, the spell can vary greatly

[eternal zodiac]

Honestly, I would think the best would be air focus and forcing levitation, then you can use homing spells while they're locked in the air to move them as desire (assuming they can't leap or fly away)

[harsh glen]

heya, got two spell ideas in mind

how do i combo spark, cold snap, discharge, and some combo of create water / evaportate to just make a water spell that self cleans up and uses all the wet stuff

second, is there any way to cause your summons to be the target of say explosion? trying to get the most use out of necromancy foci

[turbid light]

For the summons, -->

[harsh glen]

which will also blow me up in the process right?

[turbid light]

Yep

[harsh glen]

hmm... bit too much to invest into

what about the other, water combos?

[queen charm]

check out #1258240326032818207 for discussion on decoy propogation mechanics but if you you can have a decoy group have their orbit projectiles proc against each other and create a chaining explosion but wait yours to fizzle out and expire

alternatively you can :prop_self: then just clean up the water under you with an

i'm not actually sure underfoot works like this

but something along these lines

this would be tedious to make use of in a lot of situations though and generally unless you're in a somewhat predictable combat situation where you can set it up might be unwieldy

but necromancy is unwieldy, so

[harsh glen]

Oh the water and necromancy are two seperate questions

For water im trying to make it self cleaning up and do spark, cold snap, discharge

[queen charm]

yeah my underfoot water suggestion was to mitigate the damage from the self explosion

i'm not sure about the water theory i don't really play much with those schools

just seem less interesting to me than playing with entities

[harsh glen]

Originally i did flare + cold snap but noticed it didnt really do well

So trying to get back to that dual elemental burst

[queen charm]

i would think you would need a block shapers focus to do self-evaporating water

would accomplish that

to get your target wet, I think

[harsh glen]

mind giving me a rundown of the foci real quick? dont really understand them too well

its just a thing i hold/wear to modify how spells behave right?

[queen charm]

gotta equip it in a curio slot iirc

[harsh glen]

dunno if this would work. If conj water hits an entity it does nothing

[flint idol]

Self water can put fire out on you. Even in the nether

[dry shadow]

You can do this with , can't you? Or is it a version issue

[coarse turtle]

yes you can

i like have a break spell, and then a seperate tool spell somewhere in my book so that i can strip, smelt, teleport, etc

[eternal zodiac]

I think I know how to use rune offensively

I will be testing it soon and I will post if it succeeds

[turbid light]

They basically repeat the spell that you cast

• when conjuring or moving blocks
• when using and nearby summons are present

[turbid light]

I don't know about self cleaning but:

[eternal zodiac]

In addition to graph man's info, at least in 1.18 where i play (and this is from memory so eh), Necromancy focus buffs anima spells (like hex and summon wither) and causes summons to come back to life when dead, as well as letting your summons cast homing spells when you do.

Fire focus buffs fire spells, especially flare, and lets you sublimate (evaporate from a solid) ice, and gives you more mana regen when on fire or in a hot biome

Water focus gives extra speed when swimming, water spell buffs, and lets you make ice by freezing a conjure water in the same spell, and gives more mana regen when wet or swimming

Earth focus buffs earth spells, knockback resistance, and lets you make a gravity well using sensitive on gravity, and gives more mana regen when under y = 0

Air focus buffs air spells and lets you make someone levitate, and gives more mana regen above y = 200

The "buffs" listed are just a free on the selected type of glyphs

[sullen sky]

Honestly a wand of gravity or something like that would be nice

[wicked plume]

U sure?
If you use autoclicker you can mine way faster

[jade dragon]

i was looking for a strong dmg and armor dmg spell for multiplayer everyone has prot 4 and archmage FYI

[eternal zodiac]

#1249736144736878632

[harsh glen]

do wither and envenom stack? or will the two tick at the same time?

at the same level, i think I can get around it if i make one a higher level

[lusty walrus]

Simple, evil, deadly if the victim is unprepared:
In the end, aim an observer towards the obsidian entry platform. Next, aim a spell turret at the platform, and use a ⛓️ spell on it. Break the entire platform, then connect the turret and observer with redstone. Place down some source jars, and the End Dimension becomes inaccessible for any player unable to fly/leap/pearl/etc out of a void fall, since they'll start falling before their client even loads the area.
Opinions? Flaws or ideas for improvements to the design?

[queen charm]

no because this seems like a needlessly evil usecase

[eternal zodiac]

Yeah, seems more like a dick move than anything else

[ionic stone]

Just send a through portal

Observer breaks

[lusty walrus]

True, for the second run, but it'll probably get most ppl the first time.

[lusty walrus]

This is an idea to follow with everyone always asking "how do I beat blahblah?" in various threads.
While not feasible in the long term, it's likely to catch someone unprepared, and depending on how far along they are in the game, possibly softlock the End for some.

[queen charm]

eh its also kind of an infohazard

i'm okay with discussing simulmancy because its destructive in a mitigatable way

there's counterplay

this concept is more like void blink

which I am exceptionally not a fan of

[flint idol]

Void blink isn't for pvp. It's for "I don't want to pvp"

[eternal zodiac]

Like, I get that sometimes someone is really being upsetting and you just want to end them, but I'm starting to think these unfun and sometimes grief-y techniques should only be whispered about, you know

[flint idol]

Sure. But where's the line? 35,000 damage from fire Gatling?

[blazing heath]

Exactly

Thats why i still havent found an ars server i enjoy

Its too sweaty

I need a server that isnt in #advertisements ngl

[eternal zodiac]

I just play with close friends and we don't grief each other, that's the best way I think

[blazing heath]

I think so too, but im the only one out of the people i wanna play with that knows enough about modding to host and troubleshoot a server

(im also broke)

[eternal zodiac]

Fucking real

[eternal zodiac]

Honestly, I work a full time job and am busy a lot, but I'd certainly periodically pop on to a server with you on it if we had one

[lost eagle]

how do i change the color of spels using ?

[turbid light]

Go into the book, left side, spell colour, set to your desired result.
The color will be used for the visual effects of the spell and

[lost eagle]

ok i will try it thanks

[queen charm]

i mean there's no "try" thats how you do it

it's like saying you'll try breathing

[turbid light]

Lol

I'll give it a try

Do you per se have a manual on breathing?

[queen charm]

What addons?

Check #1258240326032818207

or #1264642360352968816

[turbid light]

First I got to ask. Is the damage proportional to the amount of decoys?

If so, then probably ⚡

[outer forge]

yeah it is

but to spawn the decoys i have to run into the orbits

[jade dragon]

Try APWNN

[blazing heath]

Now what is APWNN

[jade dragon]

It’s a server

Stands for a place with no name

I’ll ask the owner to post another inv

If u want

[bold verge]

may i know the addon list?

[blazing heath]

Hell no

it WILL get too sweaty

For your own sake, don't

[jade dragon]

it has like no pvp

and its 1.18 so no oneshots

almost

[blazing heath]

Don't.

[jade dragon]

ok

[jade dragon]

idk like 300

[queen charm]

Arasar's server is nice :) but lets not advertise outside of #advertisements

[jade dragon]

k

[late perch]

Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent tier 2 spells for killing the wither and chimera? I’m currently needing nether stars and wilden tributes for upgrades into tier 3.

[ionic stone]

The wither is constantly floating
So I think you could work around wind shears

Do you have any addons?

[late perch]

What do you mean by addons? The server my friend group created is using all the mod packs currently found in direwolf 1.19

[ionic stone]

You mean all the mods modpack?

[late perch]

Mayyyyybe?? I didn’t ask for specifics tbh so idk :(

[azure ice]

Direwolf 1.19 is a different modpack

[late perch]

I really want to get into like a pyromancy type of vibe as I’ve always liked fire spells in video games, but my current spell just seems to do such little damage for such a massive mana cost.

[ionic stone]

@late perch check your modpack for these:
Ars elemental
Ars trinkets
Not enough glyphs
Too many glyphs

[late perch]

I have all!

[ionic stone]

Well

Guess it's time for me to start cooking

[ionic stone]

What is your current spell?

[late perch]

And I have on arcanists armor: head and feet level 2, chest and legs level 3.

Also equipped with a lesser fire focus

[ionic stone]

First of all

Get harm the fuck out of here

[late perch]

Oh? Why’s that

I thought I needed harm to trigger the ignite effect

[ionic stone]

I-frames don't allow ignite to work, so flare is useless

[late perch]

Oh god I have so much to learn. What is an I-frame

[ionic stone]

Invincibility frame

Do you play dark souls?

[late perch]

Yes I do. Same concept?

Didn’t realize minecraft has I-frames.

[ionic stone]

Yeah

[late perch]

How do they work in MC?

[ionic stone]

After receiving a damage for a few ticks you can't do a higher amount of damage

[azure ice]

You have 11 ticks where you can't take damage

We have a page going up on Ars.Guide later today on the topic

[late perch]

Huge. I’ll look into it. Where can I find said Ars.Guide?

[azure ice]

https://ars.guide/

[late perch]

Would something like work better? Cause I’m my mind it would take the flare damage, then light on fire and take the flare damage a second time? Or would I need to throw a time delay glyph in the middle for that to work?

[blazing heath]

is needed

[late perch]

In what part of the sequence would be put? Perhaps after the first ?

[blazing heath]

Bingo

[late perch]

Sick

Just one stack of ?

[blazing heath]

Also please dont use the "compedium" until you feel youve grasped most of the mod's concepts. It's like a book of dark magic that makes people constantly make useless threads

[late perch]

…what’s a compendium?

[blazing heath]

Part of ars.guide that gives people premade spells. Ever since it came out there's been an increase in people asking very dumb questions

[late perch]

I see

[blazing heath]

Anyways i honestly love seeing a new player that cares about how the mod works, not about one-shotting their mekasuit friend