Ars Omega

[orchid token]

Not knowing about the code things

[deep sluice]

Insert wisdom vs intelligence meme

You're not stupid

You're just not good at knowing how to make mods

Which, fair enough

But anyway like I said since the combo isn't base ars, I don't want combos like that

[orchid token]

Alr, and like I said me suggesting that is just me being stupid.

[deft hornet]

Today you're doing all rolls with disadvantage

[naive ore]

My brain was doing brainy things and I suddenly had an idea, I keep a bunch of dyes on me and have the random color augment used when conjuring a mageblock, I dye the sheep the color of the block. Its completely BSing it but hey if it works it works

[deft hornet]

That would be

Someone will eventually have to implement it somehow at some time, lol

[naive ore]

Lol my method is essentially a great value version of

[deep sluice]

Sorry, what does that do?

[deft hornet]

The annoying part about implementing it is probably the rgb -> dye calc

[deep sluice]

Probably

[deft hornet]

Change the color of dyable things

So sheeps in this example

[deep sluice]

That calculation seems painful

[deft hornet]

A very random and flavour glyph, called wololo

[deep sluice]

Is there a dye color to RGB function?

If so then single dye things are easy

Just get nearest dye color

[deft hornet]

I think there are presets at best

[deep sluice]

Now, multi-dye items on the other hand

I have no idea how to do that without testing every linear combination of dyes under a certain max count

Which seems incredibly stupid

But I have no better idea

[deft hornet]

Do not overcomplex stuff

[deep sluice]

... are you saying to just not implement that?

[deft hornet]

What would you call the nearest color?

[deep sluice]

Or a better way to find it

What if 2 farther colors on opposite sides gives a better combo than the nearest plus 1 other

[naive ore]

Has the thought of just getting a random number and picking the Nth dye value in a list ever popped up

[deep sluice]

Plus there's the fundamental problem of spells render a different way so anything with pink or brown will feel weird

[deep sluice]

... thats just giving up, no?

[deft hornet]

It should affect mainly blocks and entities, special cases of items have less importance. Don't know what you mean for multi-dye anyway.

[deep sluice]

Items that can be dyed complex colors by mixing dye, like leather armor

[deft hornet]

That's just easier 💀

[deep sluice]

Dyeing things like wool and sheep is super easy barely an inconvenience

[deep sluice]

... how so

[deft hornet]

Armor dyeing is hex

[deep sluice]

Oh

[deft hornet]

Convert rgb to hex

Ez

[deep sluice]

So you can just... Not make it a combo of real dyes?

That works

[naive ore]

the idea i mentioned is literally designed for items, its would actually need to be modified for other uses like blocks

[deft hornet]

That would be the laziest option

Followed by people asking for actual color control the day after

[deep sluice]

Thus also the worst option

[naive ore]

I mean another option is just selecting the dye value by randomizing each character, it at least expands the options

[deep sluice]

Bruh

We just said we can dye it the right color and your solution is "why not randomize it"

Just install Omega and use randomize color

Smh

[naive ore]

wait I was supposed to be registering what you said
im kidding

[deep sluice]

If you're providing feedback on it, yes

🤦

[naive ore]

I did forget randomize color exists though
so I need to rethink my future ideas

[deep sluice]

But why do you want it to be random?

[deep sluice]

You started the conversation with it lol

[naive ore]

fair
I think I need to sleep more so my brain doesn't stop functioning mid-conversation as much

[deft hornet]

Rainbow color type also exists

Which can simply become a randomize color with it

[deep sluice]

That too

Is that in 1.19?

[naive ore]

Yes it is

[dusky quiver]

how that works?

[ornate osprey]

How what works?

Some more information as to what you didn't understand might help as well

[spring spire]

#general-and-help message

[deft hornet]

Heartstop should deal void-like damage

Shocked, hex, bloodcloth and something else (maybe fire & poison) all boost the damage multiplier

[ornate osprey]

I know. But neither in general nor here did they actually explain what they didn't understand about the glyph

[deft hornet]

Extremely powerful in PvP due to armor, and probably enchant, bypass

[dusky quiver]

how get shocked, hex, bloodcloth ?

[deep sluice]

... shocked and hex are both from base ars lol

blood clot is a tier 4 glyph from Omega, and it rather obviously gives the effect with the same name

[deep sluice]

... I should switch the mod to use datagen lol

[vital beacon]

What are sigils? what do they do?

[vital beacon]

are they just crafting ingredients?

[deep sluice]

They are just ingredientes yea

[vital beacon]

Thank you

Also Kaz carter's book si found in the demon dimension and the arcane compendium is crafted, where do I find the book of Maria rosa?

And why do I have still have some locekd entries even if I have all 3? I am experimenting in creative

[deep sluice]

In a structure in the overworld

[deep sluice]

Some unlock from entering the demon realm or finding certain other items. The certain items one are only for one specific other feature so if you get the ones from entering the demon realm you should be good on important content

Well and the 3 books obv

[vital beacon]

is there a way to unlock all entries while in creative?

[deep sluice]

Yes, give yourself all achievements
Insert generic spoiler warning here

[vital beacon]

Thank you

Also if I find any bug do I report them? and where?

[deep sluice]

Yes please report bugs

You can post it here or on the GitHub

[vital beacon]

there is still a locked entry, that's weird

[deep sluice]

Huh

For real?

[vital beacon]

ok so so far I have noticed that the demon king and other demons as well attack spell turrets, maybe because they are entities? i don't know but they just walk up to the turret and stare at it

[deep sluice]

They do? Is it just demons?

[vital beacon]

Also not sure if it's a feature or a bug but the demon king takes fire damage

[deep sluice]

Can you test with other hostile mobs and see if they do too

[vital beacon]

which is weird since he summons lava

[vital beacon]

yes

[deep sluice]

It's supposed to be reduced but not removed completely
Might need to change that though, IDK

[vital beacon]

also if I understood correctly when doing a portal ritual if I feed it a warp scroll with the coordinates of where I want to land in the target dimension I will spawn there right? because it doesn't wseem to work, I have tried it a couple of tiems and it just seems to teleport me randomly

ok nvm it is not demons, vanilla mobs in the overworld as well start trying to attack spell turrets if hit

[deep sluice]

Lol

[vital beacon]

I am playing with a bunch of other addons tho so maybe the entry is from one of thoswe?

It's in advanced magical equipment

[deep sluice]

I have no idea

It's either that or a bug

Most likely a bug with Omega

[vital beacon]

I was having a glitch with the potion relay where it turned a potion into an unobtainbale potion

I can try to recreate it and film if it helps

[deep sluice]

That might help

If you can do that and then send your logs it would be great

Wait, relay or one of the machines?

[vital beacon]

potion relat

potion relay*

[deep sluice]

The machines do it for technical reasons but the potion should work fine

If the relays doing it that's a bug for sure LOL

[vital beacon]

I didn't crash, do you still need my log? do I close my game?

[deep sluice]

IDK if I'll need it but it's often helpful in debugging some issues

So I figured it's best to just send it now so I don't have to be pinging you and waiting on you later if I need it

[deep sluice]

That's not the relay lol

It's the potion extender

[vital beacon]

potion relay

[deep sluice]

Which as K mentioned, needs to do the conversion

The relays just sending the potion the extender makes

[vital beacon]

the potion comes out fine, but once it gets relayed it gets turend

it's not

look

[deep sluice]

Oooh

What

Huh

Mod version?

And yea log would be nice

[vital beacon]

It destroys it

arsomega-3.0.1

[deep sluice]

I can take a look in a few hours that is wild

[vital beacon]

for the log do I have to close my game ? or do I just send the log in the folder

[deep sluice]

Send the log from the folder should work I think, IDK

[vital beacon]

there it is

[deep sluice]

Thanks

[vital beacon]

I am happy to help

Also does the potion extender have a limit? or is it virtually infinite? so I can have 1h potions?

[deep sluice]

I think the limit is either 15 minutes or an hour

Either way technically there but huge

[vital beacon]

yeah, does amplify also have a limit?

because potions are super underrated something like regen 6 for 10 mins is wild

[deep sluice]

Something stupid like 12 lol

[vital beacon]

DAMN

[deep sluice]

It's insane

On the other hand it is pricey

Level 3 costs 2 level 2 and so on

So level 6 costs 16 level 2 potions to make

[vital beacon]

yeah amplify at least is a big compressor, the extender is just for free

[deep sluice]

But yes it is OP

[deep sluice]

It kinda is lol

[vital beacon]

Oh right brb i'll see if the glitch hgappens with amplify as well

[deep sluice]

It looks to be the relay so I'd assume so

[vital beacon]

it does, but also something weird, idk if it helps

so hte potion jar at the end recieves 1 does of uncraftable potion

but it doesn't stack

[deep sluice]

Huh

[vital beacon]

like if I redo it the relay won't send it until the target jar is empty

so it only reaches 1%

[deep sluice]

That might be helpful information

It's checking if the type is right correctly

But then transferring wrong

I'm curious, can you test if it transfers correctly if the output jar starts with some of the right potion?

[vital beacon]

brb i'll see what happens if i give an uncraftable potion at the starting jar

[deep sluice]

Um I'd test the other way around

[vital beacon]

of course

I come bearing confusing info

I tried a bunch of things

1: you cannot manually put uncraftable potions in jars
2: if the target jar has the correct potion everything works fine
3: But if you lock the target jar with the correct type but the jar is empty, once it recieves the first potion it will change the lock label to the uncraftable one

4: if the target jar is empty, and the starting jar has like 2% the relay will put 2% of uncraftable potion in the jar

so it does stack

but only in this way

5: a second rlay trying to take the uncraftable potion and put it somewhere else seems to refuse to take it, so the uncraftable potion doesn't get taken

6: not even a wixie hat starbuncle will move the uncraftable potion

7: the potion relay doesn't seem to care if the cords I gave it with teh dominion wand are a potion jar or not, if i set it to take from a grass block for example it will accept it, do the little particles and the text in chat as well

[deep sluice]

LOL that last one

Ok well sounds like 2 bugs and I think I know how to fix just

*both

Not at my PC now though so will have to do it later

Thank you very much for all your testing that's super in depth

[vital beacon]

eheh I do love this kind of stuff, so I am jsut having fun at this point

I will test a bit now the portal issue I was having where it just ignored my warp scroll

[vital beacon]

Ok so I did some testing on the portal ritual. 1: And it seems that adding a warp scroll doesn't change anything,
2: I think it is intentional but a portal that has as a target the same dimension as the start won't do anything, it acts just like a block.
3: When going from nether to overworld my destination coordinates where the ones of the block right above the portal block, they didn't get multiplied by 8 or anything, and I tried it both with and without a warpscroll, but I get the same destination each time
4: extrmely unimportant thing that I am writing just for completition, when going to the end, I spawned midair which cause an obsidian block to spawn below me, but this resulted in me being 1 less in the Y axis than the block above the portal block
5: the portal won't care if my target destination is underground, and will spawn me in the ground inside blocks suffocating

[dusky quiver]

@deep sluice

[deep sluice]

hi
did you need something?

[dusky quiver]

@deep sluice your love

kidding

do the update pls

[naive ore]

so much pingin- XD

[dusky quiver]

i like him

[deep sluice]

impatient much?

[dusky quiver]

he is like a brother

to me

a brother that i didnt have

https://tenor.com/view/thats-my-brother-doughboy-boyz-n-the-hood-thats-my-bro-bros-gif-21699140

my brother @deep sluice

[naive ore]

so lucky, yeah lucky you are So-SO

[deep sluice]

would you be disappointed if I just... removed the potion relay from Omega and moved it to my other addon Industria?

now that starbuncles can transport potions, I'm not sure it really fits the mod anymore

and I was hoping to consolidate all my relay ideas in one place which makes the most sense as Industria

or would anyone else be dissapointed for that matter, IDK how much (if at all) people have tried to use it

probably not much as you're the first to report it being broken on 1.19

[spring spire]

@deep sluice is setting tier to 4 enough to add support for your Tier 4 stuff ?

also what texture do you use for Tier 4 ?

[deft hornet]

If you mean the book, iirc it's just the tier 3 book, lol

For the "can cast tier x spells" yeah, you simply set it

In vanilla there are the three tiers + creative (99)

[naive ore]

Creative book is at tier 99, oh that gives me an idea of an instant kill glyph that costs a stick to make, buts it’s tier 99 so survival people can never use it

[vital beacon]

Turrets can tho

[naive ore]

I don’t think you can add it to a spell without a high enough tier spellbook though

[vital beacon]

No don't worry, starbuncles's pathing is super annoying to deal with tho, so for omega level of potion factories they can be annoying, maybe instead of the rewlay something that helps them move vertically? but I think this is more a feautre request for base ars

[vital beacon]

Oh wait you are right

You can't make scrolls using the actual glyph item right?

[naive ore]

99.9% sure you can’t yeah

[vital beacon]

Then yeah it would be kinda funny having this god-like glyph dangling in front of people

[naive ore]

Worst case scenario make it cost bedrock

I mean I know it’s obtainable in survival but still, very few people will go through that effort

[spring spire]

oh cool. I will load the tier 4 item in when Omega is loaded

[vital beacon]

with Omega how do I remove a negative debuff and keep a positive one?

[deep sluice]

... you don't

Using buffs is a double edged sword

You can have tons of great effects but you might be hit with bad ones

All Omega does is add the dispellant effect so you can prevent effects from being removed via dispell, milk will still work though

[deep sluice]

one more question: if you fill the jar being taken from a lot before linking the relay, and the output jar is still empty, does it work right or does it still have the issue

[vital beacon]

I have been lied to in general and help then :c

[vital beacon]

I'll test it right now brb

[deep sluice]

I don't think you can selectively remove effects anyway

[vital beacon]

It worked, uh, also I tested another thing, it doesn't hzasve to be a potion from an amplifier or extender this seems to happen wioth any potion in a potion jar

[deep sluice]

I know

I found the issue

I was removing the potion first, and then adding it with the type of the jar I removed it from

so if the jar was emptied by the relay

bam, uncraftable potion type instead of the correct one

[vital beacon]

Is it an easy fix?

[deep sluice]

it is

but again, IDK if I want to keep the relay in Omega or move it to Industria

I'm leaning towards the latter since ars now has a way to transfer potions

and Industria is going to have other relays so it'll make things easier in the long run

[vital beacon]

what is industria? it sounds cool

[naive ore]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1041248123374293102

[vital beacon]

So sorry to ask it here but, does ars omega add a ritual or something that prevents people from blinking and warping? I am so sure that I have seen something like this but I can't find it anymore

[naive ore]

demonic something something demonic anchoring maybe

I think its a glyph

[vital beacon]

THANK YOU

I was going insane

Demonic Anchoring yes

[naive ore]

I only remembered cause I was being nostalgic with a friend earlier lmao, and in the old base there was a demonic anchoring rune lol

Hey So-So you know how old diamond was OP, I just thought of a way to make old diamond even more op simply by changing my spells =)

[vital beacon]

Old diamond?

[naive ore]

before the diamond glyph was nerfed to get rid of automatic netherite block generators

[vital beacon]

What

[naive ore]

minor things, nothing to worry about

[vital beacon]

I haven't had time to play around the T4 glyphs yet, so They are all pretty new to me

Ah also I think I have found a bug with the tornado glyph

[naive ore]

thats worrying, you should dm me it and not mention it

=)

[vital beacon]

I am confused

[naive ore]

makes sense

[vital beacon]

do I not write the glitch here?

[naive ore]

yeah you should

I'm great at confusion tactics, I don't even know what my own next move is

[vital beacon]

The description says it can be augmented with amplify but the book won't let me, and it gives me summoning sickness, I tought it was to prevent me from spamming it but I can cast 2 or more tornados together with no issues. Plus this might be a minor issue, but if I hit an entity like a zombie on the top half, the tornado won't hit them, it needs to be ast at the same Y of their feet or below

[vital beacon]

I am shit at understanding when people are joking/sarcastic or are serious

I get confused a lot

[naive ore]

Well to be fair I was all 3 of those in that one message

[vital beacon]

This made me so sad because it is the only T4 air spell and I really want to use it

[deep sluice]

I'll fix the grabbing entities below it thing next update

I'll also look into the amplify thing and the summoning sickness being weird

I was going to add an effect called conjuring sickness, like summoning sickness but for things like tornadoes

So I might as well do that

[naive ore]

oh is it perhaps possible for you to make it so conjure magelight and conjure mageblock give a one second or so conjuring sickness when that hardcore ars mod is installed

[deep sluice]

I... What

[naive ore]

something along the lines of the space it conjures from needs to be refilled or something, im not good with lore

[deep sluice]

Preventing you from building more than 1 block at a time sounds evil

[naive ore]

I mean people can use AOE, oh the amount of aoe can increase the time for conjuring sickness

[deep sluice]

Also from a code perspective if the effect is in Omega it's a pain to add that to the other addon

[deep sluice]

Interesting concept

[naive ore]

Im sure many people will hate me for that idea, its gonna be hillarious

[deep sluice]

I mean the point of hardcore ars addon would be for modpack makers so everything would be configurable

[naive ore]

ah right, well anybody who would dislike such a thing probably wont be the person configurating the modpack anyway, oh right there is fact how they essentially asked for it to be more difficult anyway. They don't have a reason to dislike an increase in difficulty

oh I just got a picture in my head, someone is in the end building a bridge to the end islands and trying to escape the dragon, and they are panicking as they wait for that cooldown to end XD

oh speaking of cooldowns, a cooldown after every spell fired, including on reactive gear of course, kinda like how chants add a cooldown but without the cringe chanting

[vital beacon]

Wait I am confused, do you mean like, a spam prevention for magelight and mageblock?

and forcing the size to 1 only?

[naive ore]

yes to spam prevention no to size force

[vital beacon]

oh ok ok

the magelight one wouldn't incentivize people to not use it at all and just go vanilla with torches?

[naive ore]

well I figured it should be short to be honest

to not do something like that

in any case its just an idea for now, not a feature, so nothing is set in stone as it may never even get added

[toxic junco]

hello
i have a question, why ars omega open portal ritual crashes minecraft? is that dimension still in beta or what?

[naive ore]

Which version?

[toxic junco]

3.0.1

[naive ore]

Ah 1.19.2, I assume the dimension isn’t implemented yet

[toxic junco]

ah ok, is it possible to get all new items from that addon without this portal?

or at least most usefull ones

[naive ore]

The dimension is a big part of progression if I’m being honest, without it a lot of stuff isn’t accessible in survival

[toxic junco]

[deft hornet]

Wasn't there a ritual for it

[naive ore]

Yeah, though they said the portal ritual crashes their game

[toxic junco]

yep

me and my friend tried on single and multiplayer, it also crashes entire server

[deft hornet]

The banishment ritual was only a temporary phase?

I didn't follow Omega after the server shut down, so I dunno anymore if there were changes to progression

"The Ritual of Open Portal will, using absolutely insane amounts of source, open a portal between realms. Requires the sacrifice of a dimensional crystal with the target dimension saved on it. You can add a warp scroll to change the location it sends you."

I mean, doesn't seem to be what you need

While the ritual of banishment says:

"The Ritual of Banishment will smash through the barrier between realms, and banish nearby entities directly to the demon realm. This ritual is a one-way trip, and without sacrificing further items to the ritual, the targets may struggle to leave the dimension (but not find it impossible). The ritual takes almost a minute, and uses an incredible amount of source "

[naive ore]

Oh I completely ignored the exact ritual they mentioned, I just payed attention to the mention of the dimension. Wait Riko did you use the open portal ritual without setting a destination than?

[toxic junco]

yes

[naive ore]

…. Perhaps that may be why it crashed, I recommend setting a dimension to go to, though this is still a bug that needs to fixed, just a completely different issue than I thought it was. As Alex mentioned the banishment ritual is what you want

[toxic junco]

erm... i use Ritual of Banishment and same effect, should i add something else to ritual blazer?

[naive ore]

Last time I used it I don’t think I needed to add anything, just in case check the wiki. Who knows my original assumption off a misunderstanding may be right after all.

[toxic junco]

The game crashed whilst ticking block entity
Error: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.server.level.ServerLevel.m_46865_(net.minecraft.core.BlockPos)" because "destinationWorld" is null

[naive ore]

Yeah if destinationWorld is null than the demon realm must not exist

[deep sluice]

did you do the actual open portal ritual?

bruh

[toxic junco]

yes

[deep sluice]

huh this is the banishment ritual

not the open portal one

[toxic junco]

ok i just try the other one

i can record crashing form portal ritual too if you want

[deep sluice]

that explains THAT crash, I just need to make it not do anything on invalid destination

the crash with the banishment is weird though

what other mods do you have?

[toxic junco]

uhhh

a bunch of them

[deep sluice]

this is singleplayer, right?

hmm, not sure if I'll need the list so if it's too much trouble skip it for now

[toxic junco]

nope i ussualy play on server with my friend but i do it on singleplayer to use creatiev

[deep sluice]

but the video is singleplayer, right?

[toxic junco]

yes

[deep sluice]

ok

[naive ore]

Is it a modpack someone else made, if so you can probably just say the modpack name and any other mods if you added some after installing it

[toxic junco]

no me and my friend make it

i can send zip to curseforge

[deep sluice]

can I have the crash log?

that woud help more than the mod list

IIRC it sometimes contains it for that matter

[toxic junco]

one sec

[naive ore]

Yeah it should, two stones with one paper XD

[deep sluice]

well, the other mods only matter if it's not something caused by Omega by itself anyway

it's probably me being dumb and breaking it on accident

[deep sluice]

when it crashed on the server

did it crash the whole server? or the player being banished?

[toxic junco]

i open the same world from that video and now its kinda working

[deep sluice]

oh what the

[toxic junco]

good question i think only player bcs i can join to world

[deep sluice]

... that's not conclusive enough to help

3.0.1 you said?

what the devil

it works on my machine 😭

try it without xaero's minimap

on a new world

see if you can get it to behave werid

[toxic junco]

i have an idea

i make that on superflat

y -60

[naive ore]

yeah I see xaero mentioned quite a lot on client side, I recommend you to stop using xaero's since it most like caused the client side crash

[toxic junco]

bedrock in that world is on what y?

[naive ore]

that likely caused you to spawn in the void yeah

[deep sluice]

0 so that thing's easy to fix

just make it guaranteed to spit you over 20

but IDK if I can help with the crash

[toxic junco]

i mean if that way works its ok

[deep sluice]

ok so next question

can you please make a video of the open portal ritual crashing?

[toxic junco]

ok, give me a few minutes

The game crashed whilst ticking block entity
Error: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.nbt.CompoundTag.m_128441_(String)" because the return value of "net.minecraft.world.item.ItemStack.m_41783_()" is null

ok one sec this vid have like 4 minutes

[deep sluice]

oh

oh my god I'm dumb

found a fix

i don't need the video anymore I know the issue

does it work when you set the dimension correctly?

[toxic junco]

yes

[deep sluice]

ok

then yea the only question I have is whether removing Xaero's minimap fixed your crash with banishment

if yes, report the crash to them

if not I'll need the new log without Xaero's

[toxic junco]

no i didnt remove xaero

[deep sluice]

for banishment it crashed earlier

see if you can figure out what triggered it, I think it's the first banishment on a new world

if you can do that would you please check if removing Xaero prevents the crash?

there's a crash that needs to be reported and fixed but if it's an Omega bug Xaero is hiding it

[toxic junco]

sure

[deep sluice]

or it could be a Xaero bug, can't know until it's tested more

[toxic junco]

so i have to use banishment without xaero on new world right?

[deep sluice]

yea

if it doesn't crash, try again with Xaero back

and if that one does crash report it to Xaero with the new log

if it doesn't then IDK what to say, freak accident or something

I'll fix the math for the y level in the next version

[toxic junco]

180MB

btw its without a bunch of loading screens and speeded up

[deep sluice]

is that the banishment ritual crashing again?

[toxic junco]

rn i got big lag

and it crash

[deep sluice]

ok so

are you sure you sent the right log for the banishment ritual crash?

and can you see if it happens without Xaero's minimap and if it does send me the new log so I can actually read it

[toxic junco]

^

[deep sluice]

ah there we are

it always crashes the first time/

?

[toxic junco]

and the vid

[deep sluice]

or what caues the crash

[toxic junco]

i think so

[deep sluice]

huh

hmm

[toxic junco]

btw i have work tommorow (accualy today at 11am) so if you need anything else just ping me, im kinda tired so im hoppin to bed

[deep sluice]

ok, goodnight

[toxic junco]

goodnight

[deep sluice]

huh, I was able to replicate the issue with the ritual not working right and now I am confused

so when you start a new world the crash will happen

but if you save and quit, and then open the world again, it'll work right

what the heck

[deep sluice]

I can't figure this out for the life of me

@toxic junco the first time you crashed with the banishment ritual, were you in a superflat world?

I can only replicate the issue on superflat worlds

and only before pressing save and quit

[toxic junco]

yes

and we tried today on server and it didnt crash, just make really big lag but noone crash

its wierd

[deep sluice]

well it's a really rare bug and if you crash with it it's guaranteed to not crash the next time

AND it's not a bug I can fix

so I'm just gonna not lose sleep over it

I fixed the open portal crash

best I can do

[toxic junco]

[deep sluice]

fun fact: yet another mining dimension has the same bug

EVERY dimension mod I've ever heard of has the same bug

IDK if it's a forge thing or a vanilla thing but it's not my mod that's broken there

🤷 not my problem

superflat worlds are just cursed

[toxic junco]

if it will work on normal world survival its good

[deep sluice]

it will

heck just save and quit and then open the world again fixes it

[toxic junco]

btw that demonic flesh is possible to get before entering dimension?

[deep sluice]

check pinned FAQ lol

[toxic junco]

ok one more question that i didnt found on that faq, can you stack that flowing time tablet effect?

like clocks in projectE

[deep sluice]

I think so

IDK

🤞 hopefully you're not on your way to discover yet another crash I forgot to prevent in the code

[toxic junco]

oke i will test is tommorow after work

i already crash server many times using just regular ars,
carry-on + animated blocks
wall+smelt+pierce x4 on +4000 items on floor
and something else

anyway im hopin to bed, another 11h of work tommorow

[deep sluice]

Finally attempting that petrification overhaul

[deep sluice]

me on my way to commit war crimes

[naive ore]

I think we both know that Chaos is the one who bring it to a point where an MC Geneva convention will be made though

[deep sluice]

I mean, yea

this is just me testing the petrification overhaul I'm working on

next Omega update is gonna be fire

[naive ore]

Agreed

[deep sluice]

better petrification, new mobs with actually decent models, and improvements to old features

I might try remaking a few textures to be slightly less ugly

do you have a list of, like, the 5 or so textures that bother you the most? not counting the potion relay I'm removing that for now

[naive ore]

I don’t dislike any of the textures to be honest, they are all quite good

[deep sluice]

... are we talking about the same mod

[naive ore]

I’m much more tolerant of textures than people, so none of your textures annoy me

[deep sluice]

ok but which ones could be better

[naive ore]

Onto the second part of my answer, it’s been a while since I played Omega so I don’t even remember the textures

[deep sluice]

lol

they are worse than you remember

what game version do you play these days?

Omega on 1.19 is stable

[naive ore]

If I’m being honest, I have barely played MC past month, let alone a specific version

Current pack I’m playing isn’t even on forge, so I don’t even get regular Ars

[deep sluice]

huh lol

[naive ore]

Im probably just gonna download the source files and look at the textures folder instead of opening up the game lol

[deep sluice]

oh yea forget the textures I was gonna make 3D models for the staffs

I had a whole staff rework planned

I should just... do that

[naive ore]

oh that sounds awesome

[deep sluice]

how hard can it be

https://tenor.com/view/rokožuki-gif-20547550

[naive ore]

that reminds me, I heard of a texture pack that makes Minecraft turn into hexagons

[deep sluice]

that sounds cursed

[naive ore]

oh you were right

[deep sluice]

nobody is surprised

bad idea is bad

and how would chests work? dispensers?

I wanna see dispensers in this now

[naive ore]

Im hoping there is a mod for it though, like that mod that removes cubes

lol I gotta get the right MC version up first, but I will make sure to find an image of those things

they might not have been changed, not everything was I dont think- oh no everything was

it might have gone wrong....

[deep sluice]

lol

[deep sluice]

staffs will have to be next update they look like a ton of work

[visual canyon]

Stop saying such true things

[vital beacon]

Is there a guide or a progress bullet point? I feel like I am stuck but at the same time I have there is so much more to do

[deep sluice]

where do you feel you are stuck?

have you checked the faq? do you have all the tier 4 stuff?

if you found a strange mirror I regret to inform you it's an unfinished feature

I was dreaming of much more to do but I can only make things so fast and I have an easily distracted brain -- ooh squirrel (added for ironic emphasis of my point)

[vital beacon]

I have t4 book ,and I have killed the demon king

[deep sluice]

then I'm afraid that's most of the progression so far

you could mess with any of the many random systems I got distracted making though

[vital beacon]

But like

I still have no idea where this maria rosa book is

[deep sluice]

oh

a structure in the overworld LOL

[vital beacon]

Plus there is this thing about a shard

[deep sluice]

I've seen like 5 people complaining that the structure is too easy

[deep sluice]

that's... going to be a lot more interesting next update

but yes

there is a little bit to do there

[vital beacon]

What does it look like

[deep sluice]

big tall tower

[vital beacon]

I have so many random structures because of random mods

[deep sluice]

can't miss it

OP crystal at the top that I'm gonna nerf a LOT next update

[vital beacon]

The infinity one

[deep sluice]

ye

[vital beacon]

Why is it OP?

[deep sluice]

it produces too much source

[vital beacon]

Isn't that like a small source generator

[deep sluice]

more than I intended so I'm fixing it by lowering the amount

[vital beacon]

aaah ok ok

[vital beacon]

I have an issue that I can't for the love of my find structures, especially if I am not sure what it looks like

I am supposed to find some sort of golden portal in the demon realm

Is there like a photo of it?

[deep sluice]

golden portal? no idea

do you mean to exit?

[vital beacon]

Plus where do you get glowstone? I have only found 2 near the demon king structure

[deep sluice]

that's one block, called demonic rift

[vital beacon]

wait

[deep sluice]

you can craft it, check JEI if you have it

[vital beacon]

I must have been remebering wrong

hold on

[deep sluice]

also yea worn notebook sucks I am sorry

I need to fix it

I'll try to do that next update, add some of the missing recipes

[vital beacon]

I need demonic glowstone dust

also wait there it is the book says:

"[From the notes of Kaz Carter] In one of the altars I encounred, I have discovered something strange. Instead of a blood altar, like the others have contained, this one had an empty golden frame. There is a shard of broken glass, and I believe this may have been a window or mirror of some kind...."

[vital beacon]

Oh I am a moron

[deep sluice]

oooh that

[vital beacon]

you can craft the dust

[deep sluice]

nah the book never mentioned it that' son me

[deep sluice]

that is ALSO a goof on my part

so the thing is

it was gonna

but, like, coding is hard

I never figured out the model

[vital beacon]

I feel you

[deep sluice]

It's basically a one block end portal at the bottom of a temple/altar building

there's two variants of it, the other has the cauldron

[vital beacon]

the curse cauldron

[deep sluice]

and yea that thing isn't very fleshed out

were you on 1.19? I forget

[vital beacon]

I am on 1.19 yes

where does the portal lead?

[deep sluice]

if so I'm planning to flesh this out so much more over the next few weeks

[deep sluice]

well, it's like the botania alfheim portal

strong enough for items but not beings

[vital beacon]

ooh

[deep sluice]

so it can't possibly much matter, can it

[vital beacon]

Wait what items does it take

[deep sluice]

well it tells you each time

except the first when it doesn't matter just give him a cobble or somethign LOL

[vital beacon]

And what does it give?

[deep sluice]

well

IIRC there's a random table of rewards but it's not really anythign new

the new part was when you completed all the quests

only... I never finished porting it to 1.19

so....

right now there' sno reward

but in two weeks, now

I planned to finish porting the WIP thing as well as make it slightly less WIP

[vital beacon]

Can I help?

[deep sluice]

umm

IDK it's way past when I should be in bed and I can't consider that question right now

I shall respond at a more reasonable hour

[vital beacon]

I understand, go rest ^^

[vital beacon]

Is this the tower?

Or this one? I am asking because I can't find the infinity crystals on any of them

Or this one? I am sorry for sending this many pics, I did not expect to have this many randomyl generated towers

[ornate osprey]

that does not look like the mag tower's I know from ars omega, no

Omega's tower should make use of wood and have a conic roof afaik

[vital beacon]

😭

does it spawn in a specfic biome?

[ornate osprey]

not that I'm aware, no. They should be pretty visible though, I remember them to be very tall

[vital beacon]

Does it need an addon to be generated? Like terrablender for the archwood forest? I have been flying around for quite a bit now and I am not finding anything

I DID IT

There is no way to mve the infinity crystal right?

[ornate osprey]

Nope, not afaik

[deft hornet]

Could be by using another mod, but not just Ars

[naive ore]

Maybe that Carry On mod might work, if it can even pick the block up

[vital beacon]

I have it and I tried it it did not work :c but it's fine, it is meant to be unmovable

[vital beacon]

How does heartstop work? it says it can be combined with shock but it doesn't seem to work

[deep sluice]

It does more damage if the target is shocked

From being hit with lightning

The damage is still pretty low compared to any other damaging glyph though

[vital beacon]

Even with blood clot?

[deep sluice]

Compared to other glyphs? Yes lol

[vital beacon]

I am a moron i tought it was static charge

[vital beacon]

Oh, what is better?

[deep sluice]

For damage? Not sure

Well ok I'm pretty sure hell flare is much better

[vital beacon]

isn't hellfire dmg overtime?

[deep sluice]

But I actually haven't measured the exact numbers in a little bit so IDK at this point

[deep sluice]

Nope

[vital beacon]

Oh wait so what is a good dmg spell with omega that you'd suggest

[deep sluice]

Do you have other add-ons?

[vital beacon]

Yes

[deep sluice]

Fire school is your best bet

[vital beacon]

tmg and elemental

[deep sluice]

Start with scald and soulfire

[vital beacon]

what if i am all in with air tho

[deep sluice]

Ah

If divine smite is still school of air it's your best bet, otherwise IDK

[vital beacon]

It is not

Or at least it doesn't seem to bew

[deep sluice]

Oh

[vital beacon]

Stuff like hell flare JEI tells me it's fire

[deep sluice]

Then I guess air is sort of the weakest school with Omega at the moment since it's lacking a tier 4

[vital beacon]

Smite it just says School:

[deep sluice]

Ooops

[vital beacon]

There is tornado

but it is a bit glitchy

and not a lot of dmg

[deep sluice]

Glitchy how?

[vital beacon]

I texted about it a few days ago

[deep sluice]

And yes the damage sucks and that is on purpose

[vital beacon]

oh

why

[deep sluice]

... because it's meant to reel in your enemies so you kill them with something else

[vital beacon]

But if I like spam leap I can get out very easily

sorry i forgot to say

this is for pvp

[deep sluice]

Have you tried adding accelerate and AOE?

Oh yes it doesn't work if you hit the top of mobs which I do consider a bug, will also be fixed next version lol

What sort of PVP?

[vital beacon]

Ars vs ars

[deep sluice]

But like friendly duel, or no holds barred street fight?

[vital beacon]

wait why, what changes

[deep sluice]

The best spell is always blink from base Ars, send them to the void or a pre built trap

[vital beacon]

That's true

[deep sluice]

Omega's use there is to give them demonic anchoring

If they're in the void with gravity and demonic anchoring they can't escape

Gravity trumped elytra IIRC

[vital beacon]

but that's too mean, the void destroy every item

[deep sluice]

Hence why I asked...

[vital beacon]

but not leap spamming

[vital beacon]

yeah no no then f4riendly duel

[naive ore]

I coulda sworn you made a glyph to get rid of demonic anchoring.... demonic cleanse iirc

[deep sluice]

Lol true

[vital beacon]

yeah but who has that on the ready

[naive ore]

I mean....

[deep sluice]

True but it has a 1 min cool down too

So it's not like you can avoid the anchoring forever in a real duel

[naive ore]

mhm but I could totally avoid it long enough to escape an ah who tried to anchor me in a trap or something like that

[deep sluice]

Perhaps, really depends on how it all plays out

[naive ore]

true, oh right I forgot I can just..... use a really long blink to escape the void if the need arises, it will never kill me when im prepared anyway so I have more than enough time to escape it

[vital beacon]

how do you escape with blink?

[naive ore]

touch -> sensitive -> blink

[vital beacon]

Also what is a good omega spell for a friendly duel then

[naive ore]

if Im anchored I cleanse it or just wait it out

[vital beacon]

does that teleport you to where you casted it?

[naive ore]

mhm, like 5 block reach but its enough for this usage, or I could do that overhead one and propagate it a million and a half times then blink

actually that wouldnt work how im imagining it probably

[vital beacon]

Ah also tornado cannot be amplfied,

what does accelerate do?

stronger reeling?

[deep sluice]

IIRC yea

[vital beacon]

Is it intentional that it pushes the caster as well?

It makes it hard to use

[deep sluice]

I could add a way to avoid that I guess

That was mostly cause testing in multiplayer is hard so I tested it on myself

[vital beacon]

That's fair, but since tornado is so big, i can only cast it really far away or I get caught too

also I take back what I said summoning sickness is preventing me from shooting a new tornado, maybe it wasn't letting me because I was in creative? idk, because stuff like wolves and steed check for the sickness even in creative

mmmh I can still escape it easily with leap even with 4 accelerate

granted i am not doing the most through of testing rn

it's that it has a 12 s cooldwon because of the sickness that confuses me

(what is the salt for?)

(my clay golem is not following me, am I doing somethin wrong? it is currently on combat mode)

(ok i setted it to guard and now its following me)

What is demonic light for? The text makes it seem like it has a secret use

[deep sluice]

Huh, you sure? I know vexes and decoys don't check and I'm just using the function they are

[deep sluice]

Huh might need to fix that

[deep sluice]

That's another one of those I planned it but never finished it things lol

[deep sluice]

Nothing yet but I am planning recipes with it

As you can tell the mods a mess of half finished ideas lol

Oops

[vital beacon]

nono I meant, I said some days ago that summoning sickness did not stop me from shooting a tornado again, i tried it again in survival this time and it seems to be true

[deep sluice]

Yeah I mean what you said about wolves still having the limit in creative

[vital beacon]

I didn't test it properly this time tho so I am not sure if it is the gamemode

[deep sluice]

I think nothing has limits in creative

It's definitely the game mode

[vital beacon]

I mean, are you programming it all by yourself?

[vital beacon]

Disclaimer: i did not test it at all. I summoned my golem and it only seemed to follow me during guard, but it didn't do the teleport thing wolves do, so he kept being behind

If I can i'll do more detailed testing

[toxic junco]

[deep sluice]

Oh yeah they don't teleport, I should probably add that lol

[deep sluice]

Yes I was meant to remove that lol. That said it has no recipe so it's not a big deal

[toxic junco]

btw thats kinda op but its fun

[deep sluice]

Level 20? Fr?

I thought I set the limit at 12, oops

I might "nerf" it (still suuuuper powerful though)

[deep sluice]

I am

[vital beacon]

Then don't beat yourself up are you joking, this mod is huge, it has an entire dimension, structures, glyphs, etc. this is a massive job

[oak marten]

I know I'm pretty late to the party, but those towers look like Dungeon Crawl dungeon entrances.

[vital beacon]

Thank you, I was wondering what mod where they from

[vital beacon]

What does Lead Skin do? is it a flat reduction of all sources of damage? or a percentage? or is it only for some types of dmg sources

[deep sluice]

percentage reduction of anythign that can be blocked by armor

[vital beacon]

wait

so like

each level is more percentage

?

[deep sluice]

yea

[vital beacon]

oh god

is it 25 per level?

[deep sluice]

I don't recall

[vital beacon]

because there is a terrible glitch

lead skin unless using a focus of alchemy only allows 1 amplify/advanced amplify

but there is no limit for the TMG Amplify III

so I am sitting with like Lead Skin 9

[deep sluice]

.... what the

what version of th emod are you on

I am confused

[vital beacon]

Wait

[deep sluice]

the amplifies aren't where it's limited, it just limits the actual level of effect you get

[deep sluice]

in fact it's broken the other way around, you can only have level 1

[vital beacon]

yes my bad

I must have read it wrong

[deep sluice]

wait what

how did you get to 5

oooh wait max focus?

[vital beacon]

This is 1 Amplify III

[vital beacon]

nope

I have air focus and block shaping

[deep sluice]

eh

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[vital beacon]

I swear I somehow got IX before

let me see if I can get it again

[deep sluice]

amp = Math.min(amp,maxLevel);
amp = Math.max(amp,0);
living.addEffect(new MobEffectInstance(potionEffect, ticks, amp, false, true, true));

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[vital beacon]

Also

if I use 3 AMpIII

[deep sluice]

mod version?

[vital beacon]

I get Lead Skin I

[vital beacon]

3.0.1 for 1.19.2

[deep sluice]

um

[vital beacon]

Oh god

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[vital beacon]

This seems broken

[deep sluice]

it is

I am so confused rn

literally getting a level over 5 should be MATHEMATICALLY impossible as far as I can tell

[vital beacon]

Why do you need the 2nd amp line? is there ways to get negative amp, ah nvm dampen yeah

[deep sluice]

there is

[vital beacon]

What is the Variable max_level

[deep sluice]

well it's a parameter in the function

int focusLevel = 0;
        if(shooter!=null) {

            if (CuriosApi.getCuriosHelper().findFirstCurio(shooter, RegistryHandler.FOCUS_OF_ADVANCED_ALCHEMY.get()).isPresent()) {
                focusLevel = 2;
            } else if (CuriosApi.getCuriosHelper().findFirstCurio(shooter, RegistryHandler.FOCUS_OF_ALCHEMY.get()).isPresent()) {
                focusLevel = 1;
            }
        }

        if (entity instanceof LivingEntity) {
            LivingEntity living = (LivingEntity)entity;
            this.applyLimitedEffect(living, ModPotions.LEAD_SKIN.get(), spellStats, 2 + focusLevel);
        }

so how on god's green earth did the max get over 4?

https://tenor.com/view/bcfd-monkey-confused-gif-26011916

[vital beacon]

is it a minecraft variable or one that you defined?

because whatever happened it seems to not know that the max is V

[deep sluice]

it's the last number in the call to applyLimitedEffect

[vital beacon]

Could it be an issue with the API?

where it returns fuckedu p values

[vital beacon]

wait

[deep sluice]

it doesn't matter I clamp it to a cosntant fucking number AFTER the api

[vital beacon]

where is the case for when I have neither focus

ahg nvm

[vital beacon]

mmmmh

try with TMG

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-works-for-me-meme-engineering-dvd-gif-27508941

[vital beacon]

might be an issue with how their glyph works?

[deep sluice]

I'm clampng after getting the value from the API

unless their glyph messes with the constants 0, 1, or 2, or messes with the Math.min function

[vital beacon]

Also out of curiosity how much resistance is Lead 3

[deep sluice]

I wanna know how that could happen

[deep sluice]

well it's 20% per but they apply in order not as a sum

[vital beacon]

Could it be that amplify III increases the level of an effect after it gets applied?

so after your function?

[deep sluice]

so around 48%

[deep sluice]

no idea

[vital beacon]

That's pretty damn good

[deep sluice]

I sort of doubt it but anythign is possible

[deep sluice]

oh for sure it's absurdly good

[vital beacon]

no I know it would be weird, but at the same time I have Lead SKin IX for 4 mins

the weird thing is

[deep sluice]

true

[vital beacon]

if I use 3 Amp III

it gives me lead skin I

so there is a cap

just a really weird one

Wait

what

[deep sluice]

...

[vital beacon]

I got Lead Skin III

[deep sluice]

are you srue thgat's not minecraft not showing the number cause it's so high

[vital beacon]

with 1 Advanced amplify

[deep sluice]

yea, 1 base plus 2 amp = 3

[vital beacon]

Could also be that

[vital beacon]

ah ok ok

wait so with like an alchemy focus that's like Lead V

oh god how much resistance is that one?

[deep sluice]

well, it's not the naive 100% because that math would be wrong

but it's still absurd

... I should nerf it to 15% I think that would make it WAY less op

it's a 68% reduction at lead skin V

not as bad as I thought lol

[vital beacon]

wait

[deep sluice]

math wins again

[vital beacon]

before or after the prot IV reduction from armor

[deep sluice]

not sure but they do stack

[vital beacon]

which is like 64

iirc

[deep sluice]

but again they don't add they sorta multiply

so that's an 89% reduction LOL

whoops

hence why I need to reduce it to liek 15%

[vital beacon]

Mmmmh

I might not be understanding how TMG works but

[deep sluice]

ok so I have new theory

I thought my lead skin code is old

but this is my dev environment so there's a nonzero chance I'm an absolute gosh darn idiot

[vital beacon]

If I use Advanced Amp and Amp II that should be a total of V and that works, but Advanced Amp and Amp III gives me VII

[deep sluice]

and forgot that I fixed a bug with it in the last 5 days

[deep sluice]

yea but is that without a focus? if so it's still bugged on the first one

amp III is 4 amps

2x amp II since amp II is 2x amp I

tmg math

[vital beacon]

ah

I tought it was 3 then no it checks out

Then I am pretty sure I have Lead Skin XI and it is just not showing me the number

Yup

[deep sluice]

ye it only shows up to like 9 or 10

[vital beacon]

I spammed lightining on myself for like 15 seconds, not even 1 heart

[deep sluice]

at that point it reduces 90% of damage

[deep sluice]

do you also have armor?

[vital beacon]

I do

[deep sluice]

ah

[vital beacon]

with Prot IV

[deep sluice]

aaah

[vital beacon]

netherite level armor the end game one of elemental

[deep sluice]

so that ups it to 96.6% reduction total if not more

LOL

[vital beacon]

Oh god

[deep sluice]

thought TBF this is bugged

[vital beacon]

Oh wait

oh god

is there supposed to be a max on regen as well?

Because I am running around with regen IX and I tought it was normal

But now I think that's also wrong

[deep sluice]

there is lol

of like, 2

erm

[vital beacon]

Oh

so regen IX for 3 mins

was not intended

[deep sluice]

oh heck no

the max is meant to be 2 without a focus and 3 with focus of life

[vital beacon]

focus of life?

[deep sluice]

new WIP focus

[vital beacon]

Aaaaah

[deep sluice]

does an enchant called "durability cast" exist in your game?

ah

[vital beacon]

I don't think so

[deep sluice]

yea so it turns out 3.0.1 is just bugged lol

[vital beacon]

like a book enchant you mean right

[deep sluice]

and I fixed all the enchant glyphs in the 3.1.0 alpha

so that explains that

mental breakdown averted

it all makes sense now

https://tenor.com/view/this-explains-everything-liz-lemon-30rock-that-makes-sense-makes-total-sense-gif-21894293

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what was wrong with it

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well

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LIZ LEMON

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I say "bugged"

I just... didn't apply a cap in old versions

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Oh lmao

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note to self: 3.1.0 is even more important than I remembered

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3.1.0 is the newest version?

I am Immortal

I am pretty sure

I can survive the void with this

oh god

Too pussy to go and try it

but yeah

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yes it's marked as alpha

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just have a warp scroll ready and go live a little

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Fair

Brb

oh god i am immortal

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well enjoy it while it lasts I suppose cause next version does fix it

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I went over- 1k

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also you're not near immortal

does it even protect from fall damage?

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interesting fact

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definitely not fangs or heartstop that's for sure

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when I teleported even tho I was full health my undying thread activated

idk why

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why?

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huh

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My armor does that for me

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...because lead skin only helps if armor blocks it

armor doesn't block those

obv

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But yeah i don't think lead skin would work there

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what if prot blocks it

does it still count?

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I have no idea

I don't think I actually check "does armor block"

I check if it's not marked as ignoring armor

close enough hopefully

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Because Prot IV in vanilla is kinda broken it protects even against stuff like magic, that armor is normalyl useless against

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which BTW fall damage is set as bypass armor... huh

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so fangs completly bypasses armor huh

I should test if it ignores prot as well

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fall damage bypasses armor

but nothing bypasses prot apparently 🤔

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I am pretty sure prot reduces fall damage as well

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#mixintime

it reduces all

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other than you know fether falling

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except stuff that ignores i-frames and creative

public int getDamageProtection(int p_45133_, DamageSource p_45134_) {
      if (p_45134_.isBypassInvul()) {
         return 0;
      } else if (this.type == ProtectionEnchantment.Type.ALL) {
         return p_45133_;

LOL

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This is the code for what?

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vanilla prot enchant

relevant section

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ugh what are those variables name

I hate it

stuff that bypasses invulnerability is only command and creative stuff?

or fangs and fall dmg as well?

I know void damage bypasses it

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only creative and command stuff

it ignores i-frames and creative mode invulnerability

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so Fangs get reduced by prot

but not armor

interesting

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yup

base dmg 6, against full prot Iv it's

2.16

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if it doesn't kill players in creative it is reduced by prot, not counting any mixins

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full 64% reduction

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I'm just gonna reduce the damage of heartstop and make a mixin so that prot doesn't reduce it

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mixins?

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yea this is a function so

final result in a modded game is anyone's guess

depends on the mods

do you know what mixins are?

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wait if you make heartstop completly ignore armor and enchantments

no matter the dmg if I do proj, hearttstop delay eartstop etc

it's instant kill

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Never heard of the name

(Also sidenote, i just discovered target dummies color codes damage sources by tyype, that is a nice touch)

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... ah yes 0.5 * 5 - 1 (from regen between delays) * 5 is totally equal to at least 20

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basically mods can change vanilla code which is how mods can actually end up doing a bunch of stuff

forge only does so much

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fair

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ah yeah, so forge let's you add code but this mixin let's you change ingame code directly?

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well "add" code doesn't mean anything on it's own if it's never called

forge calls your mod's "constructor" once where you can tell forge you wanna listen to "events"

there's two main types of events: registration and gameplay

registration is like the event for registering items where you can register your mod's items

gameplay includes things like when something takes damage, when an item is used on a block, etc

if you need to change somethign that there's no event for, you bring out the big last resort: mixins

before forge loads the game at all, mixin runs and collects the list of all the mixins from the mods

then when it's loading minecraft's code, it applies both forge's patches (which add the events) as well as those from the mixins in mods (so that mods can change things)

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what is an example of an event that requires mixin

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mixins lead to weird bugs and mod compat issues so they're usually avoided unless they're needed

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like a different dimension?

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no dimensions are actually done by datapack LOL

don't even need a mod

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