Ars Omega

[shrewd raven]

great, then adding it to my ATM8 world should give me all possible combinations

I started that enigmatica 8 world and the elemental armor was gone, no wall glyph, no filter glyphs, I didn't know what was available to me

the world kept lagging too

so yeah, that might be my breakthrough for the week, thanks

[deft hornet]

well, in 1.18 the armor was in another addon

[shrewd raven]

oh yeah I think I heard that

some arsenal?

[deft hornet]

yep

Ars Arsenal

[shrewd raven]

the effects of the armor is significant, I had to specify with or without wind armor in my spell showcase because with armor, the ground just yeets into the sky

[deep sluice]

Lol

[deep sluice]

Why would you go back to 1.18 though?

[naive ore]

because some mods haven't updated yet, and I don't have the alphas for those mods.

Actually there is one mod where I downloaded the github files and managed to play with it, but its so lacking in the main content that I need a new term for mods before pre-alpha to describe it.

[shrewd raven]

concept-build

like the first version of Minecraft where you could only walk around and place like 7 blocks

[shrewd raven]

can confirm Sidapa's issue too, upside-down book

lol, so goofy

now I look at it, I cannot for the life of me find 'delay' in my spell book without using the search feature. Is it possible that the book won't show all the glyphs?

these are the 3 pages of my book, the texture error is absorption, but I cannot find delay at all

think it might be dropping some of them

[deep sluice]

Did you check if there's a fourth page?

[strange mango]

Could there be a teensy-winsy small version update about the book being flipped at the correct side :')) it's like blocking my screen

1/4 of my screen is being eaten by it

[brisk scaffold]

trying to get this to work on a rune.. no luck, even thoguh it casts just fine as a spell (enchanting golden apples)

[deep sluice]

I don't know how lol, I'll try this weekend though

[harsh swan]

Ha, chalk it up as a "design choice" if all else fails xD

[brisk scaffold]

Haha

[strange mango]

thank you :'333

[strange mango]

LMFAO 😭

[deep sluice]

😢 are you fr bing 😦

probably doesn't help that the addon wikis aren't accessible lol

thats... eh... close enough I'll count it

pretty impressive actually

[deft hornet]

Randomize is already a WillAdd

[strange mango]

what is that?

[deft hornet]

Bing chat

based on one of gpts, seems worse than 4 overall except for few things

[strange mango]

the way it knows what to say though

Btw who made tome of blood?

[deft hornet]

Mint

[deep sluice]

I'll be honest I have no idea how its showing the book in the first place 😦

[strange mango]

👁️ 👄 👁️

that stack dev website thingy

ask them 😭

how to flip a book upside down

OR OR OR.. ask bailey 0v0

[shrewd raven]

yah, feel like I had that issue in a previous pack, but only seems to be 3 pages here

tbh, it's kinda weird that most of the second page is empty to begin with

well, page 4, right side of second page-flip

[deep sluice]

They all end at a weird point where it looks like they shouldn't

My money's still on whole other page you're missing but IDK

[shrewd raven]

I mean, it's in alphabetical order as well, and delay should be earlier on

[deep sluice]

Oh yea cause 1.19 lol

[opaque flare]

How can I find the Ancient Mirror Shard? Is that the object that I need to put in the mirror of the demon realm?

[robust night]

this may or may not end up not being completed but im currently starting to try retexturing the glyphs here to more fit the style of the regular mod? here's the enchant glyph i just redid, might change it more; is meant to be the enchanting table's book

[deep sluice]

got the arcane book to look identical to the archmage one on 1.19

[coarse stump]

Projectile and Projectile Burst difference?

Thought it'd look more different ngl

[deep sluice]

the amount of projectiles from repeated splits

that's the only difference

[brisk scaffold]

oh! so-so, will the book still be dyeable? that's a major plus i found.

[deep sluice]

the arcane book is not dyeable right now but I'm working on that, it's probably pretty ez but I'm not at my pc right now

[brisk scaffold]

nods thanks for the reply ❤️

love the addon btw!

[deep sluice]

thanks!

[deep sluice]

basically me when making a mod:
"c'mon, please don't crash this time!"

(I'm very bad at it)

I FIXED THE STAFFS!!!
for real this time!

[deep sluice]

that was easy! yay!

all the work is done by base ars lol

[brisk scaffold]

Oh! The staffs. I noticed there was trouble with them not being able to use spells bc too powerful, is that what was fixt?

If so I v happy!

Oh and the book is dyeable now? So-so, you work fast. I love seeing the mod come together!

[deft hornet]

It should be fixable now since the api change

Since the color shows in the crafting preview I guess he updated the api already

[deep sluice]

... ???
What API change?

[deft hornet]

caster tool in context

[deep sluice]

do you mean the staffs?
does the validator even have context? I don't think it does...

also, making progress with the potion blocks! yay!

these'll be OP with the new infuse glyph in ars I reckon

[deep sluice]

@brisk scaffold @naive ore @strange mango new update to 1.19 alpha! Fixed the book and the staffs!
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ars-omega/files/4502337

[naive ore]

Thanks for the information

[strange mango]

YOU'RE THE BEST

thank you

[brisk scaffold]

ahaha you pinged me. you're my hero. thanks for the update and ping~

[strange mango]

I feel rejuvenated

[brisk scaffold]

that's a whole mood.

[strange mango]

Gawd it's sending me to heaven

[brisk scaffold]

may i ask qhat exactly was fixed about the staves?

[strange mango]

fixed staffs that aren't working

[brisk scaffold]

yuh, but like, how weren't the yworking ig is whati mean

oh. i see.

Lol

[deep sluice]

They had too many amps

I fixed them by making the spell work even with extra amps from a staff.

[brisk scaffold]

Ooo ty

That's cool. How I figured it should work. Awesome.

Just upgraded the staff to arcane. Heck yeah!

[deep sluice]

And yes I do realize staffs are now super duper op lol

Oh well

[deft hornet]

Patchouli is still wrecked

with the old namespace of the entries

[deep sluice]

whoops

anythng other than rituals and glyphs?

[deft hornet]

i don't think

remember to tag the spellbook with ars_nouveau:spellbook for the netherite upgrade compat

[deft hornet]

spawn eggs, flesh and clay blocks, advanced elemental essence

[coarse stump]

How does one maximise damage on the Projectile Burst spell?

[deep sluice]

you don't, it sucks

[deft hornet]

at best, you maximize terrain damage, 😛

[coarse stump]

Does the "delay harm" thing not work on it?

[deft hornet]

they would still hit at the same time, assuming you land more than one on the same entity

[vestal glade]

I could see projectile burst and propagate homing being used to excessively add effects like shocked, flare, coldsnap, and/or heartstop to a single target. Even if only the highest damage hits, the stacking effects would maximize the damage of the biggest hit.

[deep sluice]

But those all have really low max levels lol

[vestal glade]

I'm not talking about excessively OP effects. Not thinking it'd be as abused as wall/propagate homing. Just effective.

Please tell me that lingers can't cast propagates.

[coarse stump]

Hmm

So may I ask what'd be the actual "meta" strongest-damaging spell combo out there?

Idk where to ask with all the addon channels

But hunch is on Ars Omega given it's literally another tier of spells

[vestal glade]

Omega is strong (even OP) by itself, but linger from base Ars and chain from TMG can make spells FAR more dangerous.

The usual linger lightning trap would be devastating with heartstop added.

[coarse stump]

I mean

You kinda require base Ars for Omega so Linger is included methinks

Huh

Dun think we got Too Many Glyphs in our server yet

[coarse stump]

How is that done?

tell me the code

[vestal glade]

Lol. Projectile, linger, sensitive, lightning, amp×2.

You can add snare, and even demonic anchoring, to try and keep the target in the trap. The sensitive on the linger ensures that the linger triggers on the blocks, resulting in one helluva light show.

[deep sluice]

that may cause lag and/or look cool but it's useless for any real damage methinks

[deep sluice]

probably the fire spell that uses Elemental TBH that thing's insane

basically Omega provides some fire damage multiplying effects

and then the fire focus from elemental's pretty busted too

so combine them...

👀

[coarse stump]

We got Elemental, humu humu...

[naive ore]

Wait a second, that’s not the most recent alpha

[deep sluice]

honestly I have no idea what that image has to do with Omega specifically

[deft hornet]

Umh, even if it was a bad joke, sheep's meme got me an idea.

Rejuvenating glyph or ritual

Turns a mob into its baby form

[deep sluice]

that could actually be a cool idea lol

[vestal glade]

Do summoned Withers (without Demonic Bind) drop nether stars if they are killed?

I might have to test this when I get home.

[naive ore]

I still recommend testing it, but I don’t think so

[brisk scaffold]

summoned withers without bind Do drop stars. i tested~

[supple moss]

so ars omega is causing weird issues for me. a lot of the glyphs it adds aren’t in the worn notebook properly, their entries look like class calls “ars_nouveau.glyph_name.adrenaline” and their descriptions have a similar format “ars_nouveau.glyph_desc.adrenaline”

everything else seems to be working fine though

things like staff’s are in the worn notebook totally normal

[brisk scaffold]

It is in alpha,

[fallow wedge]

That's a known issue for that version

[supple moss]

rip

[deft hornet]

The famous Alpha & Omega

[brisk scaffold]

giggles

[deep sluice]

... I just got the joke

[atomic dagger]

sweet jesus in sandals what sort of mana pool do I need to summon wither with cursed bind

I got full arcane, almost fully enchanted with mana boost 3 and a bookwyrm familiar

two rings of greater discount

once I max out on mana boost I don't know what else I can put on that makes it possible to cast this spell

[deft hornet]

The bookwyrm familiar doesn't discount all spells

To trigger the discount you need at least one glyph of an elemental school

Otherwise it simply reduce your mana pool

At least that's how I remember it

It's different in 1.19 so I can't even look on the wiki to check if I am right

[atomic dagger]

I'm on 1.16

[atomic dagger]

does it now

[deft hornet]

I remembered something about elemental ones

Well, time to check in code if it's memory or text fault

[atomic dagger]

other than a mana boost necklace I literally have no clue how else I could increase my mana pool

if full arcane with boost 3 and 2 rings of greater discount isn't enough then I'm afraid my options are limited lmao

[deft hornet]

Oh ok, the damage boost ask for elemental. The discount apply to all

Omega adds better mana curios, you probably gonna need those

[atomic dagger]

I thought maybe focus of summoning reduces summon costs but no

[deft hornet]

Focus of mana?

Do you have that?

[dry heath]

I think that's the name

[deft hornet]

It almost doubles your pool

[atomic dagger]

I swear why do some of the items not show up in the worn notebook...

[deft hornet]

Pretty sure it's needed to summon it

[atomic dagger]

and then I end up having no idea that they're even in the game's files

[dry heath]

Iirc some omega items are only in its own documentation book?

I usually just use jei anyway and search for @ars

[deft hornet]

Yeah, check on Jei first

Omega's biggest flaw is with documentation and missing text

More than the debatable texture look, or balance (since what throws it off the cliff is the existence of TooManyGlyphs)

That focus give like 3000 mana

[atomic dagger]

welp guess I'm clapping chimera again

[deft hornet]

It also reduces regen a lot, but you can simply swap it out after summoning your wither

[deep sluice]

Ok but to be fair I've made huge progress fixing this on 1.18, 1.16 is just really outdated by now

[deft hornet]

well, 1.19 docs are borked too

(which again, suffers from being an alpha made during shortage of free time)

[deep sluice]

Pretty much yep

I'll have to port the 1.18 ones at some point

Minus the changes obv

[quiet latch]

What blocks does glyph of diamond work on?

[deep sluice]

Only alchemical stone, check JEI for the recipe

[subtle mantle]

Does the tablet of tribute get consumed by the ritual its involved in?

[deep sluice]

Only technically, it does but it drops a new one so it effectively does not

You do lose it if you break the brazier while it's running though

[subtle mantle]

good to know, thanks

fortunately i have the ritual brazier on protected chunks

[naive ore]

nothing a good old dragon can't break. if dragons arent an option than nothing a good old launch in previous versions of Ars cant break.

[daring falcon]

#1103496476203692103 is a damn good idea for you fellas to add

[naive ore]

I cant wait to combine that wit- nevermind ignore me I have zero potential plans regarding that glyph. Nothing sketchy or abuseable going on here =)
And just to make sure its as obvious as is possible, I love that idea.

[daring falcon]

im gonna use it in a magitech bomb

[shrewd raven]

I mean, another idea is a general-use 'vertical size' glyph, not being able to lift spell effects up a block or two has hamstrung me multiple times

AOE for width, pierce for depth, but vertical size is a bit tough a lot of times

[deft hornet]

My wip version of propagate underfoot/overhead move the resolution up and down

Like, you target the block under the block you hit.

Things that would be reworked in NEG can be merged into main omega if Soso wants, also because they would be overwritten by omega ones if loaded together

Atm it's just the propagate Orbit (to orbit on blocks) and Underfoot change

[naive ore]

Interesting…. I’m sure I could find some uses for this. I already got a few ideas with blink and the nether roof

Or alternatively the bedrock floor

[deft hornet]

Can't you already use Pierce + missile ?

[naive ore]

I mean yeah, but I’m lazy and runes

[deep sluice]

How's that different from mine lol?

[deep sluice]

That sounds cool though

[deft hornet]

Does your underfoot do that with projectile on block too?

I don't remember changing anything big, so it might be that i changed only the context change part

[daring falcon]

make the black hole glyph lmao

[naive ore]

I keep forgetting to mess with the propagates, besides self, projectile arc, and orbit anyway. I never knew yours did that, nor did I know you could stack them.

[coarse stump]

So

How does one go about making Demonic Gems?

[deft hornet]

Iirc you need to mine them in demon dimension

[thin forge]

how do you unlock all the glyphs in creative?

pls @ if you can answerrr

[ornate osprey]

giving yourself all the glyphs and using them probably

[coarse stump]

Just... get a Creative Spell Book

[thin forge]

Sorry I misspoke

[ornate osprey]

Not sure if every version of Ars supports T4 glyphs in the creative spellbook

[thin forge]

I wanted full access to the notebook

Like all the locked stuff

[coarse stump]

?

[thin forge]

I found out how to

[ornate osprey]

Like the parts of the documentation locked behind achievements?

[coarse stump]

Yeah, like... you get all the Glyphs unlocked with a Creative Spellbook

[thin forge]

Disabling achievements in patchouli worked

Like even the entries on the demon realm etc etc

[coarse stump]

And with the caveat that there's probably T4 stuff that might not get included

AH

[thin forge]

I just didn't like all the locked symbols when I'm testing the nod

Mod

But it's good I figured it out

[deep sluice]

you can also use /advancement to give yourself all the advancements lol
but that works too

[brisk scaffold]

is the tablet of p. flight meant to expire when you come to the overworld through the end portal?

[deep sluice]

No, huh

[brisk scaffold]

oh

not just portal if you die also

idk about the nether

also very op, for very little. i approve ;3

[naive ore]

If you think thats OP you should see Omega + TMG combined, they reach heights that shouldnt be reached in such ways

They also reach new heights when it comes to mana cost XD

[brisk scaffold]

i've seen it 😛

[brisk scaffold]

oh! structures , at least the gorgon cave and tower are being cut off in skyblock.. by the void i mean, lost the entire bottom 1/3 or so? and the chests of the cave

[ebon flint]

so does anyone know what the infinity crystal does?
i found the tower but it doesn't seem to react to any thing i do

[deep sluice]

Its just a source jar that makes source out of thin air lol

[ebon flint]

did not know that i thought it had something to do with the new tier glyphs

[nova fog]

What does the cap (made from shield) in omega do?

[deft hornet]

The cap?

[nova fog]

Cape*

Upgrading the shield gives the Cape im on 1.18 btw

[deep sluice]

that's not an upgrade

that's a whole different item

you still nee a shield lol

the two capes have worn notebook entries, check that

if you're on an old version it might be in the arcane compendium

[nova fog]

Got it

[brisk scaffold]

will summon wither underfoot put it on the obsidian i have place under the end portal, assuming im standing on it... or set it free to destroy my island?

oh it did as i hoped, wonderful

[brisk scaffold]

i fear the time that the infinity crystal was useful is over for me.. its so cool useful and pretty, but my mycelial link is better 😛

love this community ❤️

[deep sluice]

it was never meant to be good lol

it's meant for another purpose that it isn't serving at the moment

[brisk scaffold]

It was fantastic as described :3

I just have been slow in upgrading 😛

now i must go in and implement parallel relays 😅

[brazen oyster]

what was its original purpose?

[deep sluice]

power the traps, but that would require extra work to make the tower configure the relays when it spawns

I plant to do it... eventually

[deft hornet]

Area scan and autolink?

On place I mean

[brisk scaffold]

idk if this goes in elemental or omega, but the arcane book won't enchant with "protection of four elements"

you can still upgrade from a protected archmage book to arcane, and that works though?

[deft hornet]

Nothing too weird

The recipe work on a tag

And omega spellbook in not in the tag atm

Since tome upgrade preserve the NBT, it carries on from archmage

[brisk scaffold]

i figured

[deft hornet]

Does the rendering still work fine?

[brisk scaffold]

rendering?

[deft hornet]

You know, the texture

[brisk scaffold]

of the four elem,kent's black netherite filigree?

ya

works just fine

looks nice, btw

:3

i wasn't sure i was a fan but i decided its good xD

[deft hornet]

You can always disable it in client cfg

[deep sluice]

which tag is this?

[deft hornet]

ArsNouveau#spellbooks

Not sure about the s

[magic granite]

hi guys

how can i made a clay golem?

I'm using Animate Golem on clay and nothing happens

What two medium means, man

[deep sluice]

You need a carved clay magic clay on top of a 2-block tall stack of magic clay, all of the same type

Like a snow golem kinda but with magic clay and carved magic clay instead of snow and carved pumpkin

[magic granite]

how can i made a carved clay magic?

[deep sluice]

Carve glyph

... I should probably make shears work next update lol
🤦

[deep sluice]

The worn notebook entries are bugged in 1.19, I'll fix them eventually

[brisk scaffold]

Doesn't cut do carve already?

I'm just a bit confused..

[deft hornet]

Maybe Carve was made before Cut worked

[brisk scaffold]

Ooooo

K

C:

[compact quiver]

Hi im currently playtesting a pack and as far as I can tell i've got as much mana boosts and spell reduction as you can but i still can't afford divine smite

[deep sluice]

get mage armor and enchantments too, and try the focus of mana boost

[worn jetty]

how do I go too the demon realm?

[deep sluice]

check pinned FAQ

[naive ore]

oh god I may or may not have forgotten that existed, I run off of experience for 90% of things XD

[compact quiver]

thanks for the help, the focus was the missing piece

[brisk scaffold]

Oh! So-so the wilden's gravity steals perma flight from you, if you didn't know.

[deft hornet]

It dispels all effects

[brisk scaffold]

O

[deft hornet]

Basically the anti-cheat for people who use fly rituals

[thorn folio]

Long time no see. Ik it previously wasn't, but is Ars Omega safe to install without risking breaking the world in the future?

Also how is uni going SoSo?

[thorn folio]

Ik previously if the mod was ever removed it would corrupt the world

[deep sluice]

I think that's fixed in 1.19

It's also not a bug in Omega lol it's a vanilla bug so if it's not fixed there's nothing I can do about it

[brisk scaffold]

i mean not the chimera, i know he pulls you down,. but the white ones too?

[deft hornet]

Oh?

Could be a buff added with the new patch

They didn't before afaik

[brisk scaffold]

ya its new im pretty sure

[thorn folio]

Ah alright. Well thanks for clarifying 😄. Before adding it to my main world Imma test it then

[spring spire]

I was trying to document some ideas for an addon and going through #1019639765093589153 and I found this addon which has a lot of similar ideas/concepts. I have heard of Ars Omega but never got the chance to play it.

Do you mind I dm you my ideas and make sure that I don't overlap with your mod and future plans ?

[deep sluice]

Sure that's fine

[magic granite]

guys, where do i find the demons?

i got it

[haughty rose]

hi im playing in a private world with my brother so im not allowed to go to the end till were both ready, using the conjuration essence i can make end stone, and i was going to use the transmutation spell to change the wither skull to a chorus flower as it says in the description, but it didnt work, after farming a few more hours i eventually got the focus of alchemy, the advanced amplify gliff, and enough random items to get enough mana to cast it. however its not changing the wither skull into a chorus flower no matter what i try. were in 1.19.2 if thats the reason its not working

[terse ferry]

You need a couple of amplifies and sensitivity so it hits the item and not the block.

[haughty rose]

i tried using the ranged spell and aoe before and it worked for other things like iron. ill try that real fast

isnt working

[terse ferry]

Hmmm may need more amplifies.

Usually 4 work for me

[haughty rose]

i maxed out amplifies, i tried 8 then 7 improved amplified. they work with the iron gold testing earlier, ill try that

nope still not working

[terse ferry]

Check JEI with the glyph it should show how many amplifies and stuff you need.

hover over the transmutation glyph and hit U by default

[haughty rose]

i tried using jei with the glyph and its not showing anything either, thats when i finally caved and got onto discord

[terse ferry]

It should also tell you all its recipes too like Iron to Gold.

@deep sluice Did you change the recipe for Wither Skulls to Chorus Flowers?

[deep sluice]

a long time ago yea it's skeleton skulls now I think

check JEI

did you find a place it still says wither skulls to chorus flowers? that would be a documentation error

[haughty rose]

again, jei doesnt seem to be working on 1.19.2 also how am i supposed to get normal skeleton skulls?

[deep sluice]

oooh wait JEI is broken on 1.19 lol

[deep sluice]

charged creeper?

[haughty rose]

i can try and send a screenshot for the description if you need

[haughty rose]

darn i was hoping you wouldnt say that lol

[terse ferry]

1.19 I think people use REI now?

[deep sluice]

so does the description say that it uses wither skulls? I'll have to fix that lol

[haughty rose]

it does

[deep sluice]

oh god please no

do I need to support that separately

I'm not supporting two recipe viewers

[terse ferry]

I know there is a substitute for JEI til its fixed for 1.19

[deep sluice]

I haven't even got one working bc they changed everything from 1.18 to 1.19

[deep sluice]

but... jei is on 1.19 already lol

what do you mean

it's my JEI support that's borked

not JEI

LOL

[terse ferry]

Oh

My bad

[deep sluice]

alright I;ll have to fix that

I think I changed it to skeleton skulls

but if you don't have JEI, please test in creative first

since IDK for sure

test in creative transmuting a chorus flower see what you get

since it's two way

ez way to find out

[haughty rose]

alright, and thanks for helping, i NEVER would have tried normal skeleton skulls to do it, i also spawned in some chorus flowers to change them and that didnt work either now that i think about it

[deep sluice]

chorus flowers didn't do anything?

huh

[haughty rose]

ill try again in creative but im pretty sure when i tried it with chorus it didnt work

[deep sluice]

I'm sorta in finals week and have like 3 projects worth 25% of my grade in their respective classes due in the next few days

but I'll look into this and a whole backlog of other bugs once I'm on summer break

[haughty rose]

thats fine man no rush i was just very confused and hopped on to see if anyone would help

[deep sluice]

aka hopefully this weekend

since 1.20 is coming up I should finish the 1.19 port LOL

*ars 1.2, I know mc 1.20 is out

[haughty rose]

ahh ok

wait, could it be i need an advanced focus of alchemy for it?

yep advanced focus is required

[terse ferry]

Most likely

[haughty rose]

i was using the base one since the jei didnt show how to make the advanced focus

[terse ferry]

Ah

[haughty rose]

before i go then, how do i make an advanced alchemy focus?

[deep sluice]

There's a chance the recipe is bugged in 1.19 if it's not showing up for you...

[haughty rose]

Yeah, can I find it loot somewhere or get the recipe description so I can just delete items and /give myself it instead?

[deep sluice]

I don't remember the recipe lol, no it's not a loot item

I know it had two glyphs of lead skin which is probably what I messed up in the port

A couple diamond blocks and the basic focus

But IDK the rest

[haughty rose]

Unfortunate. I only ask cause there's no wiki for it. Ah ok

[deep sluice]

No wiki? Does the online one not work either?

[haughty rose]

I didn't see an ars omega wiki. It has it listed but no recipe stuffs

[deep sluice]

It's the ars nouveau one there's an addons button

[haughty rose]

Oh nice, I'm just blind lol

Ah nice, 4 iron blocks, 2 enchanted diamonds and 2 lead glyphs. Thank you so much

[bronze badge]

ngl i kinda miss ars

mostly omega but

it's that thing, not fun to play alone

[normal jewel]

Hey, a couple questions about Omega... First, where do you find the ancient mirror shards? I found a tower with the Source crystal thing at the top, and didn't find any shards... Is it hidden in it somewhere? Or are they in a different structure?

Also, the Ritual of Change Biome, is there a way to make it do a bigger area? I thought it just needed more source, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[deep sluice]

what version are you playing on?

no unfortunately you can't increase the range of the ritual of change biome yet, that's a good idea though

[normal jewel]

1.18.2 I believe.

Yeah, for the biome thing, maybe sacrifice essence or something to make it bigger? I think some of the other rituals do that...

It's 1.18.x for sure... Also, I love Ars Omega, it's got so much cool stuff you can do!

[deep sluice]

I think unfortunately the ancient mirror shards are only in the demon realm at the moment

They are supposed to be in the towers too but that might be broken sorry

[normal jewel]

Ah, ok. I've not found a lot of structures in the demon realm. Do you have a screenshot or something of what they look like?

[deep sluice]

It's the stone brick one

Squareish

With the staff

On the latest 1.18 version it's pretty common I think

[normal jewel]

The ones that have the staff for the demon king? I'll have to look. I think I was looking for something that stood out more. lol

I might have just been unlucky in finding them.

[deep sluice]

😦 so much for quickly porting the last few changes from 1.18 so I can finish the 1.19 port

[deep sluice]

k almost finished porting the random related glyphs

[vast ledge]

One message removed from a suspended account.

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[deep sluice]

What game version? In 1.18 it just unlocks more stuff in the worn notebook

@louis6988

...

[deep sluice]

yay, I ported all the stuff from the most recent 1.18 update to 1.19!!

This includes achievements, documentation improvements, and the random glyphs (3 random chance glyphs plus the two random color glyphs)

surprisingly I was even able to port the cursed earth

[naive ore]

they probably figured it out

oh I forgot to reply

[naive ore]

welp its obvious already, but either way, I meant to reply to here

anyway nevermind that person, that cursed earth is gonna be great for mob farms

All that extra fast spawning, I wont even need spawners

[deep sluice]

Yea, requires a tier 4 glyph though

[naive ore]

minor cost for automation

Especially with the range of mobs that will spawn, since it isn't limited to only one type

[deep sluice]

Which I think balances it nicely

Its easy to make when you unlock it so it's not a permanent grind or anything

But you gotta do some boss fights to get there so it's still a challenge

... oops I forgot to test the new demonic light

I'll have to do that later to make sure it works

[naive ore]

I wonder how much faster a farm can be made just by switching out whatever blocks mobs spawnerd on before with those....

welp thats something I can test in creative mode or whatever

[deep sluice]

Yep once I release this version hopefully today but maybe later this week

[rotund cargo]

the raise earth glyph can raise basically any block lol

i tried and it can raise spawners, bedorck, end portal frames, etc

you should make it so that the spell doesn't work on certain blocks

[deep sluice]

Oh oops I'll fix that

[deep sluice]

end portal frames and bedrock is a problem

I guess spawners too lol

yooooo I fixed JEI support for transmute!!! Just gotta do the others now!

[deep sluice]

glyph idea: random delay
is that worth making? could be handy

extend time and duration down would act as multipliers for the delay selected I think

[rotund cargo]

yeah

also the dimension in omega could use a revmap tbh

same with some of the creatures

[deep sluice]

dimensions are hard and I'd rather spend my time elsewhere

the mobs and boss are probably worth my time to upgrade though

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-touck-it-if-it-works-cj-estrada-wag-mo-galawin-hayaan-mo-pabayaan-mo-gif-18952229

[hollow folio]

Hello, i just did a ritual with the Tablet of Open Portal with the Dimension Crystal linked in the Demon realm and a Warp Scroll for the spawn point, but i cannot enter the portal, do i need to do more than one or how i can enter?

[deep sluice]

Just walk in, does that not work?

[hollow folio]

Nop, i used a trapdoor too like the portal at the end

[deep sluice]

Huh. Can you send the latest.log and tell me what version of Ars Omega this is?

[hollow folio]

Yes, I am playing in a private server with Ars Omega 1.18.2

[deep sluice]

Which Omega version on 1.18.2 though?

Also, I'll need the latest.log from the server

[hollow folio]

The version is 2.7.4, i'll ask to the owner of the server for the latest.log

[hollow folio]

Here is the latest.log from the server

[deep sluice]

the portal just leads to the overworld

you might've messed up with the dimensional gem

@hollow folio can you try making the portal again? you might've right clicked with the gem by accident which would set it to the overworld again...

the log says the portal just leads to the overworld

[hollow folio]

Oooh, im going to try again, thanks 😄

[steel cave]

Hi! Can someone explain how can i obtain the focus of advanced alchemy?

[deep sluice]

What Ars Omega version?

[steel cave]

arsomega-3.0.0-alpha-4 in 1.19.2

[deep sluice]

Yea I think the recipe is bugged, I'll fix it next version

[steel cave]

okey thanks!

[deep sluice]

I'm not really happy with the current dev version, but I fixed all the major bugs and everything is working EXCEPT the things I just haven't been able to port yet (and a few balancing issues)

so I guess I'll release the version as a beta now because I don't wanna risk taking longer than expected on the rest of the stuff and not releasing it for ages

it will bring some nice fixes that were lacking on 1.19, most notably it fixes the worn notebook and adds back in JEI support

making the mod MUCH more playable

[deft hornet]

It's a minor detail, but remember to update the texture for propagators and override the index method (I don't remember the name, check mine) so they are clamped together

[deep sluice]

Aaand it crashes on servers bc I forgot to check that

I'll fix that today when I get a chance I guess

[hard pumice]

Hello everyone
I have a problem with ars omega
In solo i can run it but when I put it on my server, it doesn't work

[deep sluice]

Yep that's the issue I just mentioned

I'll fix it later today

Sorry for the inconvenience

[hard pumice]

ooups sorry i just tried to understand, im not english native

ok ok no problem

[dense venture]

is it normal to be unable to re-dye a t4 spellbook or is it just nyi?

[deep sluice]

What mod version?

[dense venture]

1.18.2

latest

[deep sluice]

I know that was an issue earlier but I thought I fixed it in at least one version

[dense venture]

2.7.4

[deep sluice]

Hmm

Guess I didn't fix it then 😦

I'll see if I have time at some point, I'm working on the 1.19 port now though

[dense venture]

hmm

[deep sluice]

(well will be in a few hours, at work rn)

[dense venture]

its not that pressing

just a bit annoying

[deep sluice]

Yes I agree

I also agree

[naive ore]

At least something like that can be solved with a resource pack, so it’s not terrible

[deep sluice]

That's the dumbest suggestion

If you're gonna go through that effort

Make a data pack to make them dyeable it's easy

It's one recipe from ars I forgot to add to the book

smh

[naive ore]

Oh wait that’s the issue

I didn’t realize it was that easy

[deep sluice]

It is cause ars did all the work

[deep sluice]

working on fixing the 1.19 server crash

[deep sluice]

fixed, let me know if it works

[hard pumice]

no problem

[deep sluice]

do you mean you're going to try it? Or did you already try it and it works?

[hard pumice]

oh sorry i will try it

[deep sluice]

you don't have to

but it would be nice to know if it worked for you or not

[hard pumice]

but I will retry with my server in 12 hours

okay 👍

[deep sluice]

ok

[heady glen]

Has the transmutation glyph changed?
Because if it hasn't changed I don't see how we can use it with the limitation of the amplifiers.

[deep sluice]

... remind me what used more than 2 amplifies?

anyway the limit only applies to things that deal damage

transmute isn't limited anyway LOL

[heady glen]

I thought the limitation was general, so no problem

[heady glen]

To go from golden apples to enchanted golden apples, didn't you need 18 level 1 amplifiers?

[deep sluice]

that would be enchant, not transmute

but yea also not limited

(I should change that to use XP too lol, it's a bit OP right now)

[heady glen]

ah yes, I got confused.

[heady glen]

Making an xp farm is not difficult, by the time you get to the point where you can use it you will already have 5 xp farms.

[deep sluice]

me forgetting to test that my mod works before publishing it

[ornate osprey]

We all test in production sometimes 😁
And you did mark it as beta!

[deep sluice]

it worked worse than the alpha

[hard pumice]

hello, our server work with ars omega
thanks 👍

[deep sluice]

yay!

[lament iris]

What would be the best spells to put on an enchanters sword to make it do the most damage.

[deep sluice]

not sure

try experimenting with divine smite or heartstop

[lament iris]

alright thanks

[lament iris]

What does the Enchanters Cloak do?

[deep sluice]

reflect projectiles shot at your back

[naive ore]

I must say, its always nice to see someone curious about Ars (plus its addons) and ready to experiment with ideas. Some other great glyphs for damage are Hellfire and Hell Flare, I have gotten enough damage out of those to kill all of the vanilla mobs I attacked using them.

[dense venture]

can anyone explain what demonic curse does in detail?

[dense venture]

the 'spore' glyph can be really nice to use

[deep sluice]

it's literally just poison but not curable with milk and not having any other special interactions poison does

but yea it just does a tiny bit of damage over time

the exception is in the newest version of 1.18 or 1.19 where it has one extra ability:
if you use demonic curse glyph on a block and you augment it with sensitive, it can turn dirt into cursed earth

which as you'd expect, spawns more mobs

[lofty onyx]

Hey

[ornate osprey]

I would suggest asking your question or checking the faq post that's pinned in this channel.
Just hey isn't really helpful in asynchronous communication

[lofty onyx]

Okay sorry. So I got this book called “the complete works of Maria Rosa”. It says it can add entries to my worn notebook, but how?

[ornate osprey]

They should be unlocked after you got the achievement for getting the book

[deep sluice]

If you pick up the book theyll appear in the worn notebook on their own

[sleek smelt]

found an oversight/bug, the Arcane Discount ring doesn't say it decreases mana costs like the lesser versions do

[deep sluice]

In 1.19?

It might not work at all then

[deep sluice]

Can you tell me the exact mod version you are using?

[sleek smelt]

i'd have to double check, hang on

[sleek smelt]

the 1.19.2 beta

[deep sluice]

Which version?

Also which version of Ars?

huh nevermind think I found the problem

[sleek smelt]

7/3/2023 arsomega-3.0.1.jar Beta 1.19.2
and the newest version of 1.19.2 for nouveau

[deep sluice]

thanks

found the problem though I think

there we go, does that look better?

will be fixed next version

[sleek smelt]

much better thanks!

[deep sluice]

the discount ring doesn't work at all on your version actually so thanks for finding that bug!

and sorry that it's sorta dead weight until I upload the next version lol

[bronze badge]

wasn't there a setting to make diamond glyph be able to make debrees

[leaden dragon]

does anyone know how the diamond glyph works?

i cannot get it working

i kinda got it

[deep sluice]

Check pinned FAQ

[leaden dragon]

oh what thats cool

thanks gang

[deep sluice]

...

Oops I don't see the diamond spell there

[leaden dragon]

oh yeah i think i got the diamond spell

[deep sluice]

But you just craft alchemical stone (recipe in JEI) and hit that

[leaden dragon]

okay yeah

[deep sluice]

More amps = better thing

[leaden dragon]

and then it makes all the vanilla ores, except diamonds where it makes the alchemy version that doesnt work with some stuff

[deep sluice]

That was the diamond spell, and its a config thats off by default yea

[deep sluice]

Yes!

I'll add it to the FAQ when I get home
also update the stuff about the 1.19 beta

[deep sluice]

alright updated the FAQ

[naive ore]

oh wait it makes the ores instead of the blocks now, good to know, I haven't payed much attention since the ability to automate it went poof (Its a great spell im just too lazy to experiment with it)

[tardy dock]

which level 4 fire damages more?

fire school

[naive ore]

I assume you mean Soulfire and Hellfire, hellfire probably deals more damage

although since soulfire is tier 3, I will also answer for hellfire and hellflare, and in that case they are meant more to be used together than one or the other

hellflare requires the target to be on fire anyway last I checked

[tardy dock]

Thanks

[bleak escarp]

Hey, I'm playing 1.16.5 rn and there is this animate glyph that I dont seem to understand. It won't work when use it so does anybody know how to utilize it?

[ornate osprey]

Carved clay on top of 2 normal clay I think

Cast on the carved block

[bleak escarp]

it only works with carved clay? why does to decription ever mention that

[bleak escarp]

and how do I carve clay? right clicking with ymy carve spell does not seem to work

[ornate osprey]

I think it needs to be magic clay not normal clay

[bleak escarp]

ah okay

ty

[vagrant prawn]

What would be the best curio set up

[vagrant prawn]

Also why doesnt enchanters wool work?

[deep sluice]

Enchanters wool block doesn't do anything yet, might change that later

[deep sluice]

Probably focus and amulet of your choice, as many discount rings as fit (default 2 but depends on mod pack), and cape of your choice

Arcane discount rings and amulet since those are best

[vagrant prawn]

Would it be better to go for a full regen build or mix?

[deep sluice]

Depends what spells you want

For most things full Regen is best

[vagrant prawn]

Because a full max mana build is not that usefull

[deep sluice]

Nah it's only good for certain spells like summon wither

Not worth it

[vagrant prawn]

max regen plus armor is the best probably

[deep sluice]

Elemental adds good foci if you have that though

[vagrant prawn]

I dont

[deep sluice]

Armor isnt curios but yea

[vagrant prawn]

yeah, but more of a built

or just generally enchantments will help alot

[bleak escarp]

is there a wiki for this mod? I need blood crystals but dunno how to get them and JEI has no recipes

[deep sluice]

blood crystals?

you sure this is the right mod? there are no blood crystals

do you mean the demon crystal and/or demon gems? If so, travel to the demon realm (check pinned FAQ)

@bleak escarp please elaborate

[bleak escarp]

ah bruh mb

I meant demonic crystals

was thinking of another item when i typed that

[deep sluice]

ok now I'm curious why you want more than one

[bleak escarp]

ty

[deep sluice]

but yea the pinned FAQ should help

[bleak escarp]

well i need one demonic crystal for the 4th spellbook

and two gems

[ornate osprey]

Omega is also integrated into the Ars wiki. Although some people are having issues activating addons and I can't recreate it 😐

[thin crest]

How can i turn iron ingot into gold ingot using Transmute glyph?

Ok i got it working

[bleak escarp]

that wiki rarely explains anything or maybe I just dont understand what some things mean as I am not a native english speaker, haven't had such problems with other mods tho

but the ars mod's are insanely fun

[deep sluice]

Since I'm gonna need to port to 1.20 soon I'm obviously dropping 1.18 support
I'll make one last update just to fix the bug when returning from the demon realm since that's major
But aside from that, I'm moving on to 1.19 for now

as far as 1.19 goes, I'm working on fixing more bugs
and I'm finally getting back to the wizard tower, fixing the missing blocks and broken traps and stuff

and loot tables

[deep sluice]

finally fixed one of the most important loot tables in the mod

[spring spire]

do you happen to have a maven ?

someone requested that I add support for Tier 4 stuff

[deft hornet]

Pull it from curse

Just like I told the other user, easy copy from curseforge file page

[spring spire]

but does it have sources?

[deep sluice]

hmm, don't think so but it shouldn't make a big difference. If you need it for reference the source is on github

have you tried curse maven already?

[spring spire]

not yet. let me go do that

[spring spire]

Yep it is still compiled

[spring spire]

@deep sluice is tier 4 disabled right now in the 1.19 builds ?

[deep sluice]

No

[deep sluice]

What makes you ask?

[spring spire]

The Tier 4 mixin is commented out on the source code on GH

[deep sluice]

Doesn't need a mixin in 1.19

Ars added support for tiers over 3 in the code

Older ars versions didn't add that so I had to do hacky stuff to make it work

But tier 4 is definitely in 1.19 lol

[spring spire]

oh cool!

can you point me to where it is in code ?

[deep sluice]

Err

For some reason I put it in TierFourEffect which is kinda a weird place

But it works so not gonna touch it

[deep sluice]

Do you know how to make optional compat?

[spring spire]

Yeah

Blood Magic and Occultism are optional for my addon

[brisk scaffold]

was perma flight removed?

[deep sluice]

I believe so

I'm gonna rework it

it was kinda dumb and buggy

so now I'm gonna make "personal flight"

it'll be flight ritual, but by person instead of place

so keep it chunkloaded for infinite range

that's the idea

it'll still be an upgrade over ritual of flight

[brisk scaffold]

neat

[vagrant prawn]

Where are the structures in the demon realm, what Y level?

[deep sluice]

Last I checked they can spawn at different ones, but the surface is the best place to look

So the veeeery top. Helps if you have an elytra and fly around looking down.

[orchid token]

how much does the arcane discount ring discount... like 30 mana or more?

[vagrant prawn]

I think 30, due to the 1st tier doing 10, 2nd tier 20, so I think 30

but idk

[deep sluice]

I think it discounts by 50, not sure though

[orchid token]

50? dam

is there like a wiki i can check it on or nah?

[deep sluice]

There's a wiki but it won't help with that

Does the normal ars wiki even have the numbers for the ars rings?

[orchid token]

i dont think so

[deep sluice]

Ok

The only wiki for Omega is the Omega entries on the Ars wiki website

Which just like the ars wiki is just the worn notebook entries

[orchid token]

is there a different way to check then if its 50? or do i need to go like into the files for that

[deep sluice]

At that point you'd have to check the code but I'm pretty confident it is 50

Why?

[orchid token]

cus they are hard to make, so i dont wanna use a lot of time to make them if they are under 50

[deep sluice]

You can either trust me or check the code yourself

Or if you're on 1.19, wait for next update which makes them display the discount value right

[orchid token]

im on 19.2

[deep sluice]

Then yea feel free to wait a week or so for the next update

If you prefer

[orchid token]

meh, il trust you then

[vagrant prawn]

Whats the curse altar do?

[deft hornet]

Now it does

In the tooltip

Sorry, not wiki

[leaden dragon]

the divine lightning glyph isnt in the school of air

which i think it should be

[deep sluice]

Nah no thanks

I'm gonna make it celestial school

[leaden dragon]

celestial?????

like the stars???

[deep sluice]

A school I'm gonna add

To be the opposite of demonic

[leaden dragon]

wouldnt that be like "holy" or "angelic"

i mean celestial WORKS yknow, dont let me shit in your cheerios

eh

sounds cool tho

[shrewd raven]

divine

holy

light

sublime

blessed

astral

I quite like Celestial too, just hope it doesn't get confused for that one mod

[feral tiger]

can you fix the enchanters horn. cause the mod doesn't count it as a legit tool. and also it stacks togeather if you make more then one

[deep sluice]

That's... not from Omega I don't think

So no, I can't fix it

[nova fog]

are all the structures in the demon realm useful/have loot?

[deep sluice]

some don't have loot per se but all can be used for something or other

might be loot

might be a unique block

might be loot but in the form of rare blocks instead of chests

[naive ore]

I mean if I can take the stone for building than it sounds like loot to me

XD

Everything is loot if you lower your expectations

[deep sluice]

yea but nobody should have them that low only pretty low

[naive ore]

Perhaps, I see it as I get dissapointed less if I consider everything loot, like the map data for example when Im failing to find the structures lol

In other words, everything I just said is a coping mechanism for vast disappointment with my luck XD

[deep sluice]

you do use a lot of that copium

[nova fog]

is this normal?

im on 1.19.2

ars omega ver 3.0.1

[deft hornet]

Yes and no

It's a bug already reported. There was the old type of sourcestone there and hasn't been replaced yet.

[nova fog]

got it

Thank you alex

[halcyon thicket]

does whirlpool have any conditions?

i feel like a lot of the time it doesnt go off when the projectile hits a block

[deep sluice]

just that it needs to be multiple blocks underwater

if it's having trouble activating underwater it might be a bug, where on the block is it hitting and what's around the block?

[halcyon thicket]

it'd hit the ocean floor on colored sand from all the biomes you'll go so like pink purple blue and white

and some kelp/seagrass

it was just base projectile and whirlpool

[deep sluice]

oh might be the kelp

[halcyon thicket]

i did notice when i put max accelerate it didnt like it and wouldnt work

rip

[deep sluice]

I'm probably stupid

oh

accelerate?

[halcyon thicket]

yeah before that

[deep sluice]

I wonder if it could be going through the floor and having trouble then

[halcyon thicket]

i did projectile/whirlpool/rest was accelerate

i did notice it was hurting mobs under the orb/particles it does

a dolphin to be specific

[deep sluice]

then that means it was working

that much accelerate on a whirlpool or tornado is just weird

[halcyon thicket]

no but thats when it did work tho lol

[deep sluice]

ok

[halcyon thicket]

other times it hits the ground and like sort of fizziles with nothing happening

[deep sluice]

and what made it stop working?

[halcyon thicket]

idk thats the thing, i would do base projectile/whirlpool and sometimes wouldnt go off even in the deep

[deep sluice]

I think it might be the kelp, I'll look into it later

[halcyon thicket]

but then it would hit a squid near the surface and work

kk ty

!!

[deep sluice]

I think I'm literally checking for water blocks cause I'm dumb

so I'll change that to check for stuff that's actually supposed to count as water

like water, kelp, seagrass, etc

[halcyon thicket]

kk ty

[halcyon thicket]

does scald with amplify make them take more fire dmg ?

[deep sluice]

No, just increases the immediate damage

Scald and soulfire don't get better at higher levels

But they do stack with each other

[halcyon thicket]

oh shoot scald does immediate dmg?

omg woah it does

[brisk scaffold]

was there not a set of gear for ars omega at one point? is that in the works again or was i just mistaken?

like armor etc

[deft hornet]

Removed in 1.19

[brisk scaffold]

ooo okai

ty

[deep sluice]

messing around a bit. I call this spell "fairies" and it's cute

isn't that cute?

[deft hornet]

Is that a randomize drop out basically?

[deep sluice]

I mean, yea

it's the random 25% chance glyph twice

so the light only has a 6.25% chance to spawn, and if it does it randomizes the color first

[deep sluice]

... proactive enchant has been broken this whole time and nobody reported it

and I never noticed because I haven't played my mod much recently

does nobody use it?

I guess

it is kinda dumb but I didn't know it was totally ignored lol

ok on second thought that's because it sucks

hmmm

ok so on armor I wanted to make it hit the melee attacker which would almost be too OP so it would also have a cooldown per-player (so if your proactive armor activates, all the pieces activate and then you as a player are on cooldown for a couple seconds or so during which your proactive armor doesn't activate)

and I guess to make everything better I have a new enchant idea to go with proactive and reactive: durability cast

basically, proactive and reactive could use durability from an item instead of mana to cast

higher levels provide a discount

but it only works on proactive and reactive

this would be very powerful on a high-durability weapon as you could spam expensive spells

hence the absurd cost to add reactive to an item is finally justified

seriously WTF was I thinking with the current effect...

that buff is much needed

I also wanted it to cast upon successful blocking with a shield but IDK if Elemental already does that so...

[deep sluice]

my progress so far on the next update:
-fixed biome crystal and ritual of change biome
-fixed proactive not working
-added new durability cast enchant

[brisk scaffold]

cool! omega is a great addon, love it :3

[deep sluice]

I'm also making enchanter's wool immune to spells because that's implied by the description

[naive ore]

Agreed, its a mystery why its still only known for being too powerful when its much more balanced than TMG

[deft hornet]

So like the void prism?

If you keep the wool, you could make an enhanced version of the warding thread

Which explicitly defends from spell damage, by using the event

[naive ore]

Oh I would love that, wait is it possible to mutually exclude threads so that advanced version & regular version of warding can't be used together

[deep sluice]

and it comes with a (no spam) chat message so that people don't think it's a bug

[deep sluice]

does the void prism stop touch spells as well? I thought it only did projectiles...

[deep sluice]

if it's not I'll make it possible
(prepares to agressively misuse mixins again)

[deep sluice]

that's actually a great idea
the main use for it right now is the enchanter's cloak which reflects spell projectiles that hit your back

[deep sluice]

me: surely by now I've learned not to push a version right before being unable to use my computer

also me 1 month later: pushes a version on friday night right before going on vacation for a few days
(but I marked it as alpha this time so it's less evil)

[cloud river]

having an issue with Ritual of Alchemy.

do I use one of the Omega chalks?

[cloud river]

got it! it was needing the right chalk

[deep sluice]

... I should make it warn you that it detected the wrong chalk if that happens lol

[cloud river]

that would be so helpful. And add in the book which chalks each ritual needs. I tried the normal Ars Nouveau chalk first

then the Magic Chalk, not realizing the white chalk was also normal chalk

which, the fact white chalk doesn't have durability is a godsend.

omg

I made 2 expecting them to have short durability like the others lol

[deep sluice]

I'll look into that , they all use the plain white chalk though so I'm not sure how to make that clear.

I'll definitely make the ritual give more feedback though, so it's less frustrating

[deep sluice]

No point it would just be annoying

The reason the other chalks have durability is because they do powerful spell related stuff

[orchid token]

Imagine being me when I realized what I've done wrong

[deep sluice]

...

[orchid token]

Can't it be kinda more clear?

Like

Why isn't it "draw" or something like

why does it say to PLACE chalk

[deep sluice]

... because you right click like if placing a block

It made sense to ne

[orchid token]

Well, did not make sense for me

[deep sluice]

Fair enough

I'll try to make it more clear, but
There's a limit to how much I can do

If I make to too specific it'll be too long and nobody will read it and it'll be worse

[orchid token]

and also the main part of the worn book says that all rituals are performed with pedestals

So it was obvious for me that all add-on'ed rituas too

well, it was obvious but was not true

[deep sluice]

WHAT

Oh goodness since when

[orchid token]

not all, but something like that, can't find it now

It says smt like for rituals you need a braizer and pedestals

[deep sluice]

You sure you aren't thinking of the inbument chamber or source links or something?

Pedestals aren't mentioned in the page on rituals

[orchid token]

oh shoot

[deep sluice]

https://www.arsnouveau.wiki/category/rituals/entry/performing_rituals

[orchid token]

I mixed things up

[orchid token]

dude

I am laughing so hard now

[deep sluice]

Next version I'll be sure to clarify you're drawing with the white chalk

[orchid token]

Not of the meme, but of the whole situation

[orchid token]

Yeah, thank you

[deep sluice]

I mean it makes sense when comparing to other stuff in ars

I guess I overestimated how obvious the use of chalk is

[orchid token]

And I was so mad at some abstract "mod creators" first

I was like, those sigils are too expensive and they don't fit the whole recipe

I need 18 manipulation essences for this one

Why

💀

[deep sluice]

Lol oof

[deep sluice]

Though to be fair manipulation essence isn't that expensive after the mid game

It's just some source and amethyst which are easy to automate a lot of

[orchid token]

Well, I'm not really into magic on the server I'm playing on rn, because my faction is mainly Taltanation's Smallships, Taltanation's Villager Recruits and I&F specialized

And that's the first time I play with ars omega

So I don't have any ars nouveau setup stuff

except the very basic ones

and tbh I haven't played ars nouveau on survival that much as well

so yeah

sheet happens to everyone, right?

[deep sluice]

Yea for sure I do dumber stuff all the time lol

[orchid token]

and also I was creating a t2 spell which turned out to be useless

[deep sluice]

That said you do need a good ars resource setup for the end game ars Omega items

Y'know since it's mainly a late game addon

Minus all the other misc things

[deep sluice]

Huh, which one?

[orchid token]

that one

basically snare + gravity

[deep sluice]

How is it useless?

[orchid token]

but useless because too short duration

[deep sluice]

Ah I guess

[deep sluice]

But extend time is a thing

And this one's immune to dispell I think
But fire removes it

[orchid token]

Extend time adds only 1 or 2 seconds to it per each glyph

[deep sluice]

I mean, yea

It's meant for a specific purpose

[orchid token]

oh, wait

[deep sluice]

Which is dealing with dispell spam

[orchid token]

I just realized

[deep sluice]

If your opponents don't use dispell don't bother

[orchid token]

It's self instead of projectile

[deep sluice]

That also won't help you with combat lol

[orchid token]

And I realized it after using it standing on the braizer

That braizer doesn't exist anymore

[deep sluice]

... yikes

[orchid token]

Brambles wiped it out of the reality

[deep sluice]

Also wait does brambles break terrain? I should consider changing that

[orchid token]

when used underfoot

[deep sluice]

So it only replaces air and grass and stuff

Yea I might change that

[orchid token]

why

it won't work then

I mean

With propagate underfoot at least

[deep sluice]

Hmm I guess that's true

[orchid token]

and also, can you add some ars elemental compatibility please?

[deep sluice]

What kind of compatibility?

[orchid token]

Elemental focuses and bangles

But for your elements too

Like

Nature, those other ones

[deep sluice]

Alchemy has a basic and advanced focus

And life had a focus in the new beta

[deep sluice]

I'll add a nature one when it's relevant

Remind me what bangles do?

I could add bangles if elemental is installed I guess

[deep sluice]

No point yet, nature isn't fleshed out enough

[orchid token]

oh

well, yeah, that's why brambles and vine grab have all those issues

Add more duration to vine grab please (,_,)

[deep sluice]

What issues specifically? The low time on vine grab is on purpose

And brambles seems fine to me

[orchid token]

Well, shouldn't they be kinda covering blocks instead?

Or be like redstone and chalk

that'd solve the issue with propagate underfoot

[deep sluice]

Do you mean brambles? Or what are you talking about?

[orchid token]

brambles

[deep sluice]

Brambles I wanted super thick so you could make huge hedges

[orchid token]

Weren't you thinking about adding conjure terrain + brambles combo?

Or not conjure terrain but conjure mageblock

Or whatever making it an actual block

(if it isn't by default)

Or

It can be opposite

Like

[deep sluice]

I'm of the opinion effects shouldn't do weird things like that

[orchid token]

is it weird?..

[deep sluice]

Each effect has a specific definition and only augments should change it

Though adding sensitive to make brambles subtler like vines and redstone does sound cool

I'll look into that idea

[orchid token]

But crush, for example, is actually doing that

[deep sluice]

Not in base ars

[orchid token]

well, conjure terrain

[deep sluice]

In base ars everything takes effect in order

I'm building my mod based on base ars

[orchid token]

Dude

Conjure terrain + crush = sand

[deep sluice]

Other add-ons are a bonus

[orchid token]

But it's base ars

[ornate osprey]

Conjure Terrain is Ars Elemental.

[orchid token]

what

[ornate osprey]

Yeah

[orchid token]

jei says it's from ars nouveau 💀

[ornate osprey]

Yeah.
That's because Glyphs need to be registered under Ars Nouveau in older versions.
But it's implemented by Ars Elemental

[orchid token]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm stupid

Sorry

[ornate osprey]

All good, how should you know about technical limitations in the code? 😁

[orchid token]

Well, I've proven that already...

I mean being stupid