Ars Omega

[thorn folio]

Question, do you plan on keeping 1.18.2 the main version forever, or are you going to very slowly move into 1.19.2, either way makes sense, programming is hard so would understood if you didn't move.

[ornate osprey]

Far as I know, porting is ongoing but since college is also ongoing again there might not a lot of time for it

[deep sluice]

I'm absolutely gonna move to 1.19.2 as my main version when I feel ready for it. But I can't develop two version at once, and on my personal server I have 1.18.2, so it makes more sense to me to keep developing that for now so that I can actually play with all the cool features I add lol.
Plus, I sorta want 1.18.2 to feel like a feature complete version before I abandon it and a couple things are sorta half-finished. I'll probably end up doing a 2.8 version with all the missing stuff like a basic celestial path, finishing achievements, and finishing the misc half-done glyphs and items, and then I'll port all that (and the missing things) to 1.19.2 and not look back (well, probably a couple months of fixing any major bugs still but no more features at all).

[deep sluice]

oh also, 3 new jar types and 4 new resource types (kinda):
-light jar: stores moonlight or starlight
-blood jar: can store blood or ichor
-dust jar: can store a variety of dust items both from vanilla and from the mod. Might even add support for other mods lol why not. Holds like 512 or something, why not.

moonlight: collected with a moonlight crystal, collects faster near full moon
starlight: not sure how you'd collect it yet
both of them would be moved with moonlight prisms and
they'd be used in celestial infusion and in blessing casting

blood: collected via some ritual or sigil and nearby mob deaths.
ichor: similar to blood but with boss mobs only.
both of them would be moved... somehow I guess
and be used in demonic infusion and in curse casting

light jar could give off more light as it filled more

same with the dust jar if used with certain dusts like glowstone dust

[bronze badge]

oh it's easy! Starlights are found in ruined portals, as they already seem like a unknown meteor that fell on earth

:P

Otherwise, like in terraria, they'd simply be a item that falls from the sky in a specific structure, to make it easier than just making it fall anywher

Also it'd broadcast a message like: "A piece of a Star has fallen somewhere near"

Brainstorming ideas rn

[deep sluice]

eh, I don't think that really fits

[bronze badge]

Mmmm actually it's easier to get what fits knowing what you'll define Starlight as

A little bit of light from a Star?
Maybe the piece of a star that died?

You basically have to create a lore to find something that fits

[thorn folio]

Makes sense. I wouldn't want to leave something incomplete either.

[dense arrow]

How the heck does demonic bind work?

[deep sluice]

you place it on the summon wither glyph

bam, the summoned wither will obey you but have a limited duratoin

[mighty trench]

Hey is this a known bug with the ars omega glyphs or am i doing something wrong?

[deep sluice]

on 1.19 that's a known bug

[mighty trench]

gotcha, I assume it's only a visual bug and does not affect functionality?

[ornate osprey]

Correct, probably just missing language files or patchouli entries

[deep sluice]

well, the patchouli book is messed up but IDK if the lang file needs fixing too

I forgot to account for the registry name change lol

see?

[deep sluice]

gotta fix the using wrong pair class thing on 1.19 lol

[mortal vault]

I'm trying to look it up but I can't find any documentation on this add-on- how do you find the Maria Rosa and Kaz Carter books?

[deft hornet]

One spawn inside the mage tower afaik

They should have a crafting recipe tho

[mortal vault]

Nope, no recipes for either one

[naive ore]

Might be due to the modpack your playing

[vestal glade]

It just occurred to me that with the addition of Stable Warp Scrolls to AN 1.19.2, the Tablet of Open Portal may be deprecated content, excepting the cases where a player wants a permanent portal.

Still relevant in 1.18.2, but maybe not so much in 19.2+.

[deft hornet]

Sidenote on this, I'll put a patch in the next ver of elemental to cancel collateral spell damage if there is a filter right before the damage glyph

Doesn't work fully since side effects still apply

Might work with the change of attemptDamage, but it's a breaking update since it's signature change

So we if we really want it, we'd need to update addons right away 😛

[mighty trench]

do creative-placed Infinity Crystals still work?

[deep sluice]

If the normal ones do

[mighty trench]

I ask because i placed one and it's stuck at 0% charge

[deep sluice]

Yea they’re just broken on 1.19 and I don’t know why

[mighty trench]

Ah gotcha

[deep sluice]

Schools been pretty tough recently so I haven’t had the chance to take another look at any of these bugs lol

There’s a lot of 1.19 ones now

[mighty trench]

also what do you do with those complete works of X books? I assume i need the Arcane Compendium to know what to do with that?

[deep sluice]

I don't recall what they do on 1.19 lol

In 1.18 they used to be other guidebooks for the weirder items so I think they do that

In 1.18 I've since changed it so the info is all in locked entries and obtaining those books just unlocks those entries. Makes using the search and stuff easier

[deep sluice]

they actually aren't supposed ot have a recipe, I didn't see the point since they don't have that much necessary information and each one tells about the area you're guaranteed to find one in.

[deep sluice]

you might be looking for the Arcane Compendium which is a different item and SHOULD have a recipe, it details all the more advanced items your documentation might be missing

[mighty trench]

also @deep sluice do you accept code submissions for Ars Omega? If you lack time to fix bugs i could always take a crack at fixing lesser bugs

[deep sluice]

I would yea

[mighty trench]

My background is mostly C# and JS coding but I know Java (I just never used it past college classes lmao)

[deft hornet]

C# is similar enough, I guess?

[mighty trench]

they're both OOP so

shouldn't be too hard

[deep sluice]

yea C# is very similar

the real problem is minecraft code can be messy sometimes

[mighty trench]

I'll see if I can fix the visual issue with the patchouli book and make a Merge Request on it if it works

[deft hornet]

You just have to take some time to dig in the code

[deep sluice]

and my code is ALWAYS messy garbage

[deft hornet]

And face the real enemy

[mighty trench]

fellow spaguetti cooker i see

[deft hornet]

Gradle

[deep sluice]

which one? the entity rendering is weird and seems to be a patchouli issue

the text isn't even a code issue, just a ctrl r in files that I need to do lol

[mighty trench]

Yeah i meant the issue of the entries in the book being whacky

[deep sluice]

the chalk bug and infinity crystal bug are the real ones that are major issues and need code to fix

[deep sluice]

that's super ez to fix I think

if I'd gotten more than 5 hours of sleep last night I'd fix it tonight, but...

[deep sluice]

lol the open issues on Omega are growing pretty fast

[naive ore]

Least they do that work for you

Now you just have to sort through all of those issues and then continue with the rest of the bug fixing process

[azure silo]

Hi, I'm trying to play with the 1.19.2 alpha of ars omega and I'm a bit surprised: it completely messes the overworld generation (random flying blocks, perfectly cubic cliffs, lots of holes on the ground)

Is this a known bug ? If yes is there an ETA for a fix ?

[deep sluice]

what? elaborate

are you suuure that's caused by Omega?

[azure silo]

Yes

[deep sluice]

...

[azure silo]

I tried with and without

with several seeds

always broken with, never without

[deep sluice]

screenshots?

[azure silo]

let me launch minecraft and create a new world, and I'll send a bunch of fresh screen shots

I'm with forge 1.19.2 43.2.3, if that matters

[deep sluice]

I have no idea how Omega would be involved WTF

[azure silo]

Yeah, that's why I was surprised, omega doesn't change generation, doesn't even add biomes in the overworld

[deep sluice]

I think I might have found it

and if so I am very dumb

[azure silo]

That would be a great news, args omega was supposed to be the core of my new world 😂

[deep sluice]

ok so I have bad news for you

I've been sorta busy recently so IDK when I can fix the bug lol

[azure silo]

😭

[deep sluice]

not my fault lol, midterms at University

[azure silo]

Well at least now you know the bug

[deep sluice]

ye, I'm glad you found that lol

I made an issue for it on the github so I don't forget later
https://github.com/dkmk100/ArsOmega/issues/53

between this and a major feature crashing the game, it's a good thing I marked the 1.19 release as alpha lol

(chalk lines crash the game AND chunkban you. oops.)

[azure silo]

😂

Well I will follow this closely and add it to my worlds as soon as I can

I could add it to an existing worlds without danger, right ? Or should I wait for my next world ?

[deep sluice]

I imagine you can add it to an existing world fine, no idea what'll happen when you reach new chunks though

and on 1.19 you should be able to remove it fine too
(on 1.18 you can't, but it's a vanilla bug, NOT my bug, so can't do much about it)

[azure silo]

I guess I will try it and see what happened once the issue is resolved

Thanks a lot and good luck with univ 😉

[deep sluice]

thanks

[deep sluice]

so dumb question but which version of Omega is this?

[deft hornet]

how the hell did you break vanilla wg

[deep sluice]

I'm not just the clown
I'm the entire circus

[azure silo]

Alpha-2 for 1.19

[deep sluice]

yea I just downloaded it and found the problem I think

[deep sluice]

I kinda sorta somehow managed to include a datapack overriding vanilla stuff, I have no idea how I managed to miss it, but yea the mod datapack is CURSED on the 1.19 alpha

[mighty trench]

Does putting Proactive on a weapon with no right click functionality do much?

Like i have a melee weapon

Would putting Proactive I just let me have a 25% chance of casting a spell when I right click?

[deep sluice]

I think so lol

[dusk halo]

any news on your 1.19.2 progress? 🙏

gonna reset my server when you're officially upto 1.19.2 so just checking in

[deep sluice]

See above lol

[dusk halo]

damn ok king

best of luck with uni tho

[mighty trench]

and this, fellas, is why i'm a college dropout /s

[naive ore]

F I had those a couple weeks ago, around January 23rd or so, but for high school

[deep sluice]

college is weird some classes have midterms so I don't have a midterm week, I have a couple weeks with lots of midterm type big exams/projects and then a LOT of weeks with other random things worth a strangely large part of my grade for no reason

every class is on a different midterm calendar and it's madness

[naive ore]

That is the third definition of insanity

The first is "the state of being seriously mentally ill"

and the second is me and chaos

[deep sluice]

you're saying I'm insane or the classes are?

[naive ore]

The classes

[deep sluice]

lol good

[naive ore]

I wouldn’t be one to speak if I called you insane lol

[deep sluice]

lol true

[loud iron]

Got a crash during the ritual of shaping with crafting the sigil of earth.
Should I paste it into Pastebin or w/e and send it here?

[deep sluice]

that works I guess

or just send the log file directly

[deep sluice]

...

Omega version?

[loud iron]

Latest for 1.19.2

[deep sluice]

lol 1.19.2 is giving me so much trouble

[deep sluice]

um, what

@bronze cape I wasn't aware that the functionality of takeSourceNearby had changed from 1.18.2 to 1.19.2, is that intentional? it used to return null if there wasn't an option present but now it just crashes if there's no nearby source jar

its deprecated anyway so I doubt you care, but, I found that odd

[bronze cape]

Crashes?

[deep sluice]

Optional<BlockPos> loc = BlockPos.findClosestMatch(pos, range, range, (b) -> world.getBlockEntity(b) instanceof SourceJarTile && ((SourceJarTile) world.getBlockEntity(b)).getSource() >= mana);
        if (world.getBlockEntity(loc.get())

you don't seem to check if the optional has something in it...

you just assume it does

unless I'm dumb, that seems to be the issue here

now, obv this method is deprecated and I gotta find another one anyway

but still, odd that you do that

since in 1.18 it just returned null in that situation and I'd assumed you hadn't changed it lol

[bronze cape]

huh

I must have changed it when I deprecated and removed all the uses of it

yeah dont use that

[deep sluice]

yea I'll have to fix that lol

oops

[bronze cape]

just use 'takeSrouce'

[deep sluice]

still, pretty funky, why does the method exist if you changed it to crash the game anyway? isn't it almost better to remove it at this point?

[deep sluice]

yea I figured

well does the particle version work

[bronze cape]

it was left in in case alex was using it

[deep sluice]

... ok

next Omega version will fix the rituals of shaping and aura crashing if there's not enough source nearby

[loud iron]

Glad to help. :D

[ornate osprey]

College dropouts unite!

[fallow bloom]

the ritual of perma flight crashed my server on 1.19.2 and i cant get it back on again without removing the mod

[ornate osprey]

that's the risk of using alpha versions. At a guess it might be because of the consume source bug described directly above your message, but I'm not the author and can only guess. Removing the brazier with the ritual of perma flight might work instead of removing Omega completely

[fallow bloom]

thats what i did with the ritual of shaping when it crashed

[ornate osprey]

probably best to avoid all Omega rituals that need source for now

[deep sluice]

… wtf I searched the code yesterday and only shaping and aura have that crash

[deep sluice]

Please give me your latest.log and the crash report

[fallow bloom]

not sure if i can access the server log its the all the mods 8 modpack tho if that helps

[deep sluice]

Lol I can’t do anything about it without the logs

Can you reproduce the issue in single player?

[fallow bloom]

okay hold on let me try

[deep sluice]

Would be like asking a doctor to determine if your leg is broken remotely without x-rays, but don’t worry because you can tell him what pants you wore that day

[fallow bloom]

i never said i wanted it fixed or anything

[deep sluice]

True

But you pointed out the issue and it would be nice to have a way to fix it

[thorn folio]

Idk I think if my leg is snapped in half backwards, I think my doctor could tell it is broken.

[deep sluice]

Sure, but a fracture ain’t being found like that

Anyway the analogy is bad

[thorn folio]

True.

Yeah I get the point, you can't diagnose the problem without the logs to show it.

[deep sluice]

A better one would be telling your doctor you broke your leg, sending a low quality photo of it, saying it’s such a shame they can’t fix it, and flying out of the country as they sit there with equipment to give you a cast and a lot of confusion on their face

[thorn folio]

Lol. This literally made me laugh out loud.

[deep sluice]

Yea all I know so far is that maybe something happened

That’s about it

[thorn folio]

Fair enough.

[cyan mason]

im surely missing something but is there a download for the ars omega 1.19.2 alpha?

[deep sluice]

Yea on curseforge

[thorn folio]

Yes, on cuseforge.

[deep sluice]

Its, well, an alpha

[cyan mason]

oh alr ty

[deep sluice]

So it might break things

Right now it manages to mess up overworld worldgen AND the ritual of shaping crashes the game

So… might wanna wait like 2 more days for the next alpha that’ll fix those major bugs

[cyan mason]

alright, will do

[thorn folio]

Will this alpha finally give absorption a texture?

[deep sluice]

That’s nowhere near a priority item

[thorn folio]

Fair enough.

[deep sluice]

If it doesn’t corrupt your world it’s not on the to fix list

For next update anyway

Maybe on beta 4

[thorn folio]

Fair enough, gamebreaking bugs first.

[bronze badge]

Yeah the uh

vanilla generation changes are kind of gamebreaking

our world looks ugly af ngl

[mortal vault]

What is the required spell to turn a golden apple into an enchanted golden apple? The spell used to work for me, but at some point it must have changed, cuz now it asks for either 9 Advanced Amplify or 18 regular Amplify- but those are impossible, right? Just to do 9 AA, it would be a spell length of 11, because you need 1 form, 1 Enchant, and then 9 AA

[deep sluice]

skip the form

use a caster tool

wand or something

[viral widget]

yo how do i get arcane bloom? anybody know 1.18.2

[deep sluice]

craft arcane bloom seeds

[mortal vault]

Does anyone know where wizard towers spawn, and if they can have ancient mirror shards in them? I found one of those structures that needs one in the demon realm, tried making a shard and it didn't work

[deep sluice]

yea you craft enchanted shards not ancient shards

wizard towers can spawn in pretty much any overworld biome

but demon realm structures should also have ancient shards

last I checked, both places do

[mortal vault]

Alrighty, thank you!

[deep sluice]

to do: check if I'm stupid in yet another way with nature school

[fickle barn]

Hey so I've been looking and looking but can't seem to figure this out, is it possible to have starbuncles sort specific items from chests into specific chests? Or will it only be anything in one chest into another?

[mortal vault]

Just to confirm- that would just be the random wrecked rooms, right?

[deep sluice]

the stone brick ones yea, I thought they have 1 shard each...

[deep sluice]

that's not an Omega question...

[deft hornet]

Filter Scrolls, Mimic ones for example

[deep sluice]

are you not finding the shards there?

[fickle barn]

Hm I was trying the mimic scroll but it didn't seem to do anything. Is there something I specifically have to do with them instead of just right clicking on the starbuncle?

[deft hornet]

Move to #general-and-help

[fickle barn]

Wait am I not in-- oh shoot sorry I must have misclicked!

[mortal vault]

Not a single one, no- I will admit, the server I'm on has a mod, Loot Chests- but all that does is give every player their own instance fo the loot in the chest, it still follows the drops for that type of chest

[deep sluice]

yea that shouldn't affect it

what Omega version are you on?

and are you opening all 3 chests? only 1 of them can have the shards lol

[mortal vault]

Ars Omega (2.7.1) is what our pack dev has it listed as- and yeah, I'm checking every single chest

And this is on 1.18.2 using Forge

[deep sluice]

.... huh, it doesn't generate in those chests

I thought it did

[mortal vault]

So I need to find one of these towers then?

[deep sluice]

it would seem so

that's an ooopsie I wanted them to be a bit more common than that

[mortal vault]

Damn, don't think I've seen a single one so far, hope they aren't too rare

[deep sluice]

I'll fix that next time I guess

[deep sluice]

eh, they're pretty rare

since I wasn't planning for them to be the only source of ancient shards lol

not as rare as, say, a mansion

but still not very common at all

[mortal vault]

Aight then, guess I'll just start wandering aimlessly XD

[deep sluice]

I mean, if it gets bad enough you might consider just cheating a few in or waiting for an update

[mortal vault]

Do you happen to know if there are any pictures posted of the towers? Just so I know what to watch for?

[deep sluice]

they're pretty annoying to get right now

there's one on the mod page lol

[mortal vault]

I might do that, yeah, but going to give it an effort to find one legit- and thank you!

[deep sluice]

well, yea, give it the effort to find a tower legit

7 more though? don't do that to yourself

[mortal vault]

Yeah, I've actually screenshotted this and sent it to the pack dev, since she's also the server owner- going to try and find one tower, since I still need the Maria Rosa book anyway, then I'll ask her to cheat one in

[deep sluice]

yea, the entire mirror portal is WIP anyway lol
I was hoping to finish it a while ago, but, finding the time has been hard

[mortal vault]

Ahh, alrighty- and yeah, that's perfectly fair, I doubt that's the only thing you're working on, not to mention any IRL stuff

[deep sluice]

yea IRL I have college which thinks it's funny if ever week is midterm week

and in the mod there's bugs, the 1.19 port, more bugs, items to rebalance, more bugs, more rebalancing, more bugs, the petrification rework, more bugs, ...

[mortal vault]

Ugh, yup, sounds like a freaking blast

Been utterly dying trying to get through my own college years

Oh, actually, I have a question about the rifts- so the very first one I touched took me back to the overworld, but left me under the bedrock layer. Is there any sort of escape from that? Tried using Blink or Intangible glyphs, neither seemed to do anything to help

[deep sluice]

... huh
under bedrock?

oh no

ooooh no

https://tenor.com/view/i-might-be-an-idiot-liz-lemon-30rock-idiot-stupid-gif-19745990

it's supposed to just drop you inside blocks or lava lakes or whatever
but not below bedrock, that would be a bug

[mortal vault]

Yup, twice in a row now XD

Trying to fly back to my base's waypoint rn

[deep sluice]

I messed up my math didn't I

probably swapped min and max 🤦

[mortal vault]

We have a gravestone mod luckily, so just going to let myself die near home base and hope the grave is relatively easy to get to

[deep sluice]

yea that's a problem lol

oops

[mortal vault]

That was my orginal expectation actually XD

[deep sluice]

lol

[deep sluice]

this issue is completely unrelated to the ritual of shaping one, and a latest.log would be helpful...

figured it out myself

that means every major issue I know about on 1.19 is fixed and I can upload the new version!

emphasis on major

lots of even moderate things are still there

but the crashes and messed up worldgen should be fixed

and the infinity crystal cause that one was ez

[deep sluice]

alr that's just an issue with how I handled configs, just fixed it

[fallow bloom]

okay

nice

[deep sluice]

I think this version will work

let me know if no

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ars-omega/files/4401513

[fallow bloom]

perma flight works no crash 😁 👍

[deep sluice]

yay!

I fixed the ritual of shaping too

and a few other things

[fallow bloom]

im trying that rn

thank you very much btw

everything works 🙂

[deep sluice]

@cyan mason @bronze badge @thorn folio good news! new apha that fixes most major bugs!

[silk horizon]

you got caught by the automod for pinging too many people lol

[deep sluice]

ye I saw

[bronze badge]

noice

does it fix the model?

[deep sluice]

too bad it's not my own discord so I could just add roles for people who want notifs 😦

[deep sluice]

no but it fixes crashes lol

that's... about it

AND the worldgen is fixed

[bronze badge]

oh thank god

[cyan mason]

oh cool so i can just

download and use it?

[deep sluice]

yea, it's still in alpha so expect some issues, but it shouldn't be too bad anymore

[cyan mason]

alright cool

[deep sluice]

... oh come on
I forgot to fix chalk lines and the documentation

welp, time to start on alpha 4 lol

[bronze badge]

oof

[fallow bloom]

what does the tablet of conjuring do?

[deep sluice]

errr dupe gorgon gems cause I was too lazy to figure out an interesting way to make them renewable lol

[fallow bloom]

alr

[deft hornet]

"Figure out"

Just make a gorgon enemy

So people can make structure-based spawners

[deep sluice]

yea, I'll probably do that at some point

whenever I get around to polishing everything related to petrification

[thorn folio]

Nice.

[dense arrow]

hey i got easy magic mod

and now enchant glyph dosen't work

so idk

is it incompatible?

[deep sluice]

no idea, never heard of that issue

please elaborate what you mean by enchant glyph not working

[loud iron]

Are you trying to enchant the tool while it’s in your hand or in a chest?

Because it’s meant to be a floating item on the ground then use the enchant glyph.

[dense arrow]

oh wait it works when it's not already enchanted

but before it worked with enchanted items

confusion

maybe not

i might just be dumb

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-press-la-noire-gif-18717264

[dense arrow]

yeah im imagining

nvm

[green karma]

Hello. i just started playing the 1.16.5 forge, i dont seem to understand how to use the enchant spell to create enchanted golden apples

[deep sluice]

you need more advanced amplifies than fit in the spell when using the spellbook, so you have to use a casting device like the wand or a staff

[green karma]

i tried casting it with the base spell book but i saids i need more mana, i have 450 mana but i dont know how to select the item i want to enchant, i tried with self + enchant but says i dont have enough mana

[naive ore]

firstly you cast enchant on an item entity, an item dropped on the ground

secondly yeah it will take a decent bit of mana to make something like a notch apple

[deep sluice]

LOL that's the one thing they AREN'T doing wrong, last I checked self does work

you need to get a LOT more mana my dude

[naive ore]

oh I never knew that

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-matthew-mc-conaughey-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-6096185

[naive ore]

Thanks for informing me though

[deep sluice]

I mean, could be it changed

but I thought that works

[green karma]

i see i need way more mana, maybe enchant shouldnt be a lv 2 spell

what else can i do with it besides enchanting, apples and honey

[deep sluice]

I mean honey is waaay easier

and it makes sense notch apples are hard to make lol

[naive ore]

I just naturally assumed it needed to be an item entity because it would be annoying to enchant the wrong item on accident

[deep sluice]

honestly

[deep sluice]

I mean, yea but it would be weird to accidentally cast it with self, no?

[naive ore]

true

I was originally gonna comment on how that would work, but it would find the right item but a simple copy paste of the code from place block and modifying it for the intended item would work just fine for that so that would be a useless comment from me

[deep sluice]

lol wait till you learn I only check the hands

[thorn folio]

Honestly would be cool if there were roles for each section of addon-corner that the developer of the addon could ping for news of people who want it.

[mighty trench]

mood

I wish i could ping people with a specific role for #1076216334960046130 updates

or maybe we could have an announcement channel here for add-on mods

[thorn folio]

Yeah.

[green karma]

Enchanter wool robe set vs Arcane robes, whats the difference besides enchanter having slightly more defence

[deep sluice]

Arcane has better mana stats but weaker defense

So far that's the only difference

[green karma]

Thanks

[naive ore]

I assume after Omega fully updates to 1.19.2 the Arcane robes will have better threads than the enchanter's wool robes as another difference, though that depends on how So-So wants it.

[deep sluice]

I was gonna scrap the new armor entirely and just add a way to upgrade all the armor sets to tier 4 with arcane blooms

and enchanter's wool was gonna become a thread

[naive ore]

well uh

good thing I added that, "thought that depends on" clause

[deep sluice]

lol

no idea what I'm gonna do though, I might never end up finding the time to code that lol

[naive ore]

I really like that idea to be honest, I mean the armor already was an upgrade to tier 3 so turning it from a separate item into tier 4 just seems natural

[deep sluice]

that is the obvious solution

[green karma]

The transmute spell is not working in chorus flowers, the descriptions says it turns them into swither skulls

Here it is, it works with iron into gold but not chorus flower into skulls

[deep sluice]

sigh this would be so much easier if you updated to 1.18, there's JEI support lol

it works, you just need more amps and a focus of alchemy

and it only works on the item form, not the blocks when placed

[green karma]

ahhh i see thanks alot , feels great to get answers directly from the dev

[green karma]

There is a lot of documentation missing in the worn notebook, it probably shows in the 1.18 version but im playing 1.16.5, is there somewhere else i can get that info from? Like Alchemy seems broken i would like to know more about it

maybe i should run 1.18 in single player just to read the worn notebook there

[ornate osprey]

The wiki https://www.arsnouveau.wiki currently points to the 1.18 documentation.
There's definitely going to be differences to 1.16 though, So-So changed and added a couple of things afaik.

[green karma]

Thanks a lot i wont have to bother you guys this way, nice mod i really like it, but my friends insist in ice & fire so i had to host the 1.16.5 version

[ornate osprey]

I'm just the Web Dev doing wiki stuff and breaking things in Ars Instrumentum. All the credit for Omega goes to So-So 😁

Ice & Fire is one of those things where a port would be nice though, yeah

[deep sluice]

huh, it never ported? lol

[green karma]

How many amps do you need to enchant honey and apples? there is an animation when i cast it with touch but its no working

[deep sluice]

Ars Omega FAQ:

Why isn't my transmute spell working?
Transmute only works on item entities, not blocks or items in your hand. Additionaly, for higher level transmute spells, you'll need a focus of alchemy (or even advanced one) as well as some levels of amplify. On 1.18 and above, this can be seen in JEI too.

Why isn't my enchant spell working?
To enchant honey bottles and golden apples, you'll need to add a bunch of levels of amplify. For golden apples in particular, you'll need at least 18 levels of amplify, which is 9 amplify 2s. They won't fit if you also have a form, so you'll need to use a casting tool like the wand. Also, you'll need a lot of mana for this. Not sorry, get better gear if you want that much power.
Update since 1.19: you might need enough experience as well, 40 levels for 1 golden apple.

What's the most powerful spell?
Not sure, divine smite has a ton of raw damage, but heartstop avoids the protection of armor. Also, other tier 4 spells have plenty of utility uses. Read the worn notebook for more info.

What's the best spell school?
They all have pretty good damage potential except nature and alchemy, which are more support / utility schools. Alchemy in particular is great for both resource management and defense.

how do I get gorgon gems?
Gorgon caves, which counterintuitively are structures that spawn on the surface of the world.

Where can I find the missing worn notebook entries / other books?
The arcane compendium is crafted, and the other two books which unlock notebook entries can be found in the relevant structures.

Is there a 1.19 version?
Yes! It's fully released there now.

is the mod version stable?
Yes! On 1.19 and prior MC versions, the latest mod update should be pretty stable.

Is there a 1.20 version?
Not yet, since I'm super busy with school this term.

Ars Omega FAQ part 2:

When will you port the mod to the next MC version?
Whenever I find time; I'm pretty busy with school recently though.

What does the infinity crystal do?
It slowly generates infinite source, it cannot be moved though.

How do I get to the demon realm?
Ritual of banishment. Check notebook or JEI for recipe.

How do I get the flesh for the ritual of banishment?
Ritual of demonic summoning. Check notebook or JEI for recipe.

Why can't I see recipes or info related to getting to the demon realm / tier 4 glyphs?
you need to craft the arcane compendium to learn these secrets. Recipe in the notebook or in JEI.

Why can't I see everything about the worn notebook about the demon realm?
If you don't see anything at all, see above. If you're missing only later info about the demon realm, you'll need to find that info in stuctures in the demon realm. Exploration is key here.

Where do I find the structures in the demon realm?
They are found on the surface of the dimension. The most important one is made of stone brick, and is key to progression.

How do I get back from the demon realm?
Find a demonic rift, which looks like demonic stone with yellow cracks. It'll send you back to the overworld.

What if I find a bug?
please report it on the github. If it's causing you trouble, feel free to ask for help in this channel on the discord as well.

I don't have enough mana to use summon wither, what do I do?
You'll probably need a focus mana boost, and remember that learning more glyphs improves max mana.

How do I use the diamond glyph?
The diamond glyph converts alchemical stone into different ores, based on the number of amplifies. Despite the name you cannot make real diamonds, only "alchemical" diamonds which are similar but used in fewer recipes. The alchemical stone recipe can be found on JEI.

Can an Admin please pin those? I can't lol

[ornate osprey]

Todo: Done 🙂

[green karma]

Damn , i guess im just a puny mage

[deep sluice]

err, I sorta figured the second one should be pinned so people don't miss it by just skimming from pinned messages

[ornate osprey]

Both?

[deep sluice]

yea, in case someone doesn't jump to message lol

[ornate osprey]

Both it is

[deep sluice]

thank you!

lol that's a lot of text

but I have something to refer people to now

(before I never would've though I had a project popular enough to need an FAQ so this is fun)

[ornate osprey]

The pains of being popular. Thanks for the FAQ, that should be a big help! 🙂

[dense arrow]

Really? I just add like 5 amplify II on my spell book and it works :0

I was gonna asl

Ask

How the heck

Does change biome

Work

In 1.16.5

[ornate osprey]

Advanced amplify < Amplify II in that instance. TMG amplifies harder than Ars Omega and the combination of both turns things insane

[dense arrow]

Because the notebook has the description for the ritual of cleansing on the page for ritual of change biome

[deep sluice]

you sure that wasn't amplify III? Because amp III, which is from a different addon, is worth 4 amplifies, thus 5 of them are worth 20 amplification (more than the 18 I said you need)

[deep sluice]

change biome is fairly simple. Craft a biome crystal, right click in the biome you want to change to, and sacrifice that to the ritual of change biome. Then start the ritual and make sure it has source.

[dense arrow]

It was amplify 2

[dense arrow]

So how exactly does it "change the biome"

Like thats what I'm confused abt

[naive ore]

oh that gives four? I thought it gave three lol
Your teaching me more than my school has over the entire course of last semester

oh I just looked at the code, I thought it was 8x the cost of one amplify but its 16x the cost actually. You should be a teacher as a side job

[ornate osprey]

Your debug-information will show that you're standing in the new biome instead of the old one.
The Grass color will change to that of the new biome.
Generally, the game will behave as if whatever area you're standing in is the new biome.

[mortal vault]

Did I shape this wrong? It says it's running, I put source jars around the brazier, but nothing is happening

[deep sluice]

I don't see particles

Can you try moving the source jar closer?

@mortal vault

[mortal vault]

Oh, apologies, it worked- so I was using a bunch of source jars that had 5% in them, to try and clear them, turns out it required the source come from one single jar

[deep sluice]

Oh yea, that's just how rituals work lol

Can't you just make a relay and use it to consolidate source lol

[dense arrow]

im in 1.16.5, and the gorgon cave dosen't seem to be spawning

like

at all

[deep sluice]

the counterintuitively spawn on the surface

also IIRC they're way rarer than they should be on 1.16

[timber sierra]

what are the blocks used for the wizard tower? playing on 1.19.2 and the wizard tower structures spawn without the light purple (slab?) blocks

[naive ore]

If your referring to what I think you are, its a relatively simple reason for why it spawned as it did. Block id nonsense. You can read more about it in the messages following the image im replying to.

More recent image on the tower though I will need to continue checking to see if another one got posted just incase

yeah I think thats the most recent image, its not at the top of priorities for relatively obvious reasons hence why it hasn't been fixed yet.

[timber sierra]

yeah this is what i was talking about. wanted to know if the blocks missing were currently in the mod to fill it in

thats fair

[naive ore]

I mean I would work on more important stuff too if I had a nbt exploring tool that doesnt let you use ctrl + f to fix it all instantly lol

[deep sluice]

lol would be funny if demon king got ticked off and stole the Caliburn from Mahou

[mighty trench]

I forget, didn't Ars Omega mess with terrain generation?

or did that get fixed?

[deep sluice]

Fixed in newest alpha

[terse ferry]

Found an issue with your spellbook... the player holds it open upside down. You see the back of it opened up...

[deep sluice]

yea that's been reported a lot lol

no idea how to fix it and it's pretty low priority

[naive ore]

I got a simple idea

flip it upside so when its upside down its normal

[deep sluice]

is it to flip it

[naive ore]

lol you guessed it

[oak marten]

Hey, I'm having an issue with staves on 1.19.2 where the staff won't cast unless I have 2.5 times the cost of the spell in my source bar

[deep sluice]

that's... odd

[oak marten]

agreed

It's specifically the archmage staff

[deep sluice]

huh

[oak marten]

Actually I take that back

[deep sluice]

are you able to make a video of the issue?

[oak marten]

it seems to be whenever my mana bar falls below 50%

[deep sluice]

I legit have no clue

do other staffs work normally?

it probably has to do with how I apply the amplifies

I imagine it's just harder to notice on the other staffs

[oak marten]

the regular staff seemed to work?

The regular staff seems to require a small excess of the spell cost, but not much

[deep sluice]

figured

I'll look into the issue when I get a chance

[fringe sage]

Hello, just a question please... Enchanter's Wool is for Enchanter's Cloak only? Or are there other uses?

[deep sluice]

on 1.18 it was used in an armor set too, on 1.19 I'm still figuring out what it's other use is gonna be

so yea for now it only does the enchanter's cloak

(I should consider giving the block special behavior too, that would be fun)

[dusky quiver]

@deep sluice your mod crashed

[mighty trench]

you wanna proved a crash log? details? What you did to make the crash?

anything?

[dusky quiver]

Details:
Caused by 0: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: modifiers
at com.dkmk100.arsomega.ArsOmega.setup(ArsOmega.java:79) ~[arsomega:1.2] {re:classloading}
at net.minecraftforge.eventbus.EventBus.doCastFilter(EventBus.java:247) ~[eventbus-4.0.0.jar:?] {}
at net.minecraftforge.eventbus.EventBus.lambda$addListener$11(EventBus.java:239) ~[eventbus-4.0.0.jar:?] {}
at net.minecraftforge.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:302) ~[eventbus-4.0.0.jar:?] {}
at net.minecraftforge.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:283) ~[eventbus-4.0.0.jar:?] {}
at net.minecraftforge.fml.javafmlmod.FMLModContainer.acceptEvent(FMLModContainer.java:106) ~[forge:36.2] {re:classloading}
at net.minecraftforge.fml.ModContainer.lambda$buildTransitionHandler$4(ModContainer.java:107) ~[forge:?] {re:classloading}
at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.run(CompletableFuture.java:1800) ~[?:?] {}
at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.exec(CompletableFuture.java:1792) ~[?:?] {}
at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:295) ~[?:?] {}
at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.topLevelExec(ForkJoinPool.java:1016) ~[?:?] {}
at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.scan(ForkJoinPool.java:1665) ~[?:?] {}
at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:1598) ~[?:?] {}
at java.util.concurrent.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThread.java:183) ~[?:?] {}

Mod File: arsomega-1.5.jar
Failure message: Ars Omega (arsomega) encountered an error during the common_setup event phase
    java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: modifiers
Mod Version: 1.16.5-1.5
Mod Issue URL: https://github.com/dkmk100/ArsOmega/issues
Exception message: java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: modifiers

@mighty trench

just ars + ars omega

[mighty trench]

oh it's in the set-up phase

is the issue happening always or only when booting a dedicated server/single player?

[dusky quiver]

single player

dedicated didnt tested

[mighty trench]

gotcha

what other mods do you have installed?

Probably a good idea to list them so @deep sluice can test under the same conditions you have

[deft hornet]

It's a reflection error, so there's probably a version mishap?

[dusky quiver]

Just ars and the ars apis

Like patcholi, curious, gecklib

And the ars omega ofc

[deep sluice]

@dusky quiver what version of Java are you using? 1.16.5 only supports Java 8, I suspect you're using too new of a version

[dusky quiver]

java 8

and it just crashed with ars omega

[deep sluice]

huh

hmm

ars nouveau version?

[dusky quiver]

the most recent one

[deep sluice]

can I just see your mods folder lol?

also, are you suuure you're not launching with java 17?

by accident

[dusky quiver]

wouldnt it crash minecraft anyway? cause it just stop working when i put ars omega

[deep sluice]

no, a lot of things just sort of... work until they don't

other people have had this exact issue but ALL of them were on java 17 and all of them were able to fix it by switching to a java version below 11

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-gif-13250124

[deep sluice]

I mean, mod list looks fine

again, I highly suspect it's a java version issue

since what's happening is Java is different, and, well, why else would that be the case?

[dusky quiver]

seens like tlauncher is using java 16

iam correctly?

[deep sluice]

bruh tlauncher?

[dusky quiver]

iam not rich to have original account man ahah

so i need switch to java 8?

[deep sluice]

I mean, I sorta already answered that question

[dusky quiver]

okie

[deep sluice]

but I can't really help if you're pirating the game lol

[dusky quiver]

also ars industria coming to 1.16.5?

[deep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-owl-house-hunter-golden-gif-22454321

[deep sluice]

no why would I backport lol

[dusky quiver]

why, it seens descrimitation against poor people

[deep sluice]

I'm not that stupid (almost though)

[dusky quiver]

👀

[dusky quiver]

can i backport it?

[deep sluice]

I'm not supporting anyone who breaks the law

[deep sluice]

yea, but you'd have to figure out how yourself so I hope you're good at Java

[dusky quiver]

i understand, but otherwise i wouldnt be able to play the game

thanks mate

[dusky quiver]

ik, i did a fun mod want take a look?

[naive ore]

I’m not breaking the law, im just downloading and playing the free game called Mincecraft

Completely different game

[mighty trench]

my man out here dead-ass trying to plead for a backport just because they use pirated minecraft

[loud iron]

joins AN discord
Pleads for backporting
Proceeds to show screenshot of desktop displaying TLauncher.
Acts like it's not a problem to steal copywritten work for "reasons"
Defends self with strawman fallacy by deflecting their being caught red handed with a flimsy argument that a game costing money is discrimination against poor people.
Refuses to elaborate

Nah bro, I'm disabled and live at home with family, yet could still purchase minecraft legit.

[mighty trench]

I don't blame people for having to pirate games but like

acting like you have even the slightest bit of privilege to ask for a backport to a long-outdated version of minecraft?

That's next tier i tell you

[loud iron]

Literally "beggars can't be choosers"

[dusky quiver]

Whar

I didnt begged for nothing lmao

Ready the entire convo

I was asking for help cause ars omega was crashing

[deep sluice]

well, regardless, I can't help for multiple reasons

[terse ferry]

If your trying to use a 1.16 version of minecraft and trying to load mods from newer versions... its never gonna work... Its like trying to run two instances of the client version of Minecraft... it just does not work...

[hollow furnace]

Is there any combination of trinkets (amulet, rings, etc) that allows me to both have mana and good mana regen? Or is the idea to be swapping to the Focus of Mana to cast big spells? For example, I have two arcane rings and the arcane amulet of mana regen but I can't cast the wither spell even once without putting on the focus of mana.

I also have ars elemental tier 4 armor on

[deep sluice]

just pick a strategy and learn to use it

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-skill-issue-skill-gif-24485644

[naive ore]

What are you augmenting it with?

You could always try just using it with only amplify 1s and extend times to make it cheaper

If not only one of those two being used

[deep sluice]

I mean to be fair it is a couple k mana lol

it's not meant to be cast willy-nilly

[naive ore]

True I just don’t remember it costing all my mana when casting, not that I could double cast it easily though

[hollow furnace]

10 minute summoners sickness anyway but think I can actually mitigate this issue with different threads and enchants

[deep sluice]

why are you summoning a bunch of plain withers lol

[dusky quiver]

Lol

Skill issue

Imagine not be able to Beat a lot of withers

[naive ore]

uh he didnt say he couldn't

he just asked why

Wither actually kinda weak ngl

[deep sluice]

This, I was actually brainstorming how to buff spawn wither so you can build a combat strategy around it without making it cheap and letting you spam it

[hollow furnace]

Am I wrong or wouldn't summoning sickness just prevent you from spamming it entirely?

[deep sluice]

Well yea

My plan is to buff it and the goal is to do that without messing with the summoning sickness

I'll probably make the summoning focus affect if somehow

Or something dumb like that

[thorn folio]

I'd love to see a list of all the random ideas So-So has thought of. Would be interesting, he has them all the time, not a bad thing, hopefully means there is plenty of content to come.

[naive ore]

Who knows maybe one of our minds can somehow go from a to an unknown b to get a new idea from those ones lol, actually maybe that should wait till the mod is fully released on 1.19.2

[mortal vault]

Welp, I finally got around to using creative mode to do one of those busted mirror things- oh dear god am I glad I didn't do it in survival, I do not have the patience to find 8 of those damn towers XD

[deep sluice]

yea that's a mistake on my part lol

oops

[mortal vault]

XD Don't worry about it immediately, I know you said all that stuff is WIP anyway, I just wanted to see what all would come of it so far

[minor stratus]

So... is there a reason why the demon realm has no bedrock layer? I just died to the void since I decided to fight the a wither (its the OP progressive bosses wither) in the demon realm so I dont need to worry about terrain damage

(sorry if this sounds rude, my important stuff had resolute ivy from botania so I didnt lose anything of importance, I'm just curious)

[deep sluice]

honestly I have no idea

worldgen confuses me

[dense arrow]

can the ritual of perma-flight be dispelled in 1.18?

i'm moving my server from 1.16.5 to 1.18.2, so I'm probably going to have alot of questions :0

[deep sluice]

I think I added a config for it

Why

[dense arrow]

i was just wondering because in my server that will be how fairies fly since there isn't a wings mod for 1.18

and i was wondering if its dispellable

because that would be bad

and i would have to use angel ring mod

[deep sluice]

oh I just realized you said dispelled, not disabled

um, I don't remember honestly

you're better off adding an angel ring mod probably, but IDK

[naive ore]

well if you don't have one for toggling dispelling yet than that's another feature you can add to the list. It probably can be done rather quickly after you get it working with just one ritual. Probably a feature near or at the bottom of things that should get done.

[dense arrow]

Yeah because I can see why normal creative flight would be dispellable

Just not perm

BC its supposed to be almost permanent

[deep sluice]

I think it can't be dispelled but can be removed with demonic cleanse
but I really don't recall, sorry

...wait I can just check the code 🤦

yep, it can be removed with demonic cleanse but not with dispell or milk

[naive ore]

Interesting and useful to know, thanks.

[dense arrow]

what if you die tho

[naive ore]

the ritual can be at their spawn so its reapplied instantly

[minor spindle]

How do I craft Archmage's armor?
i can't seem to find it in the books and in the JEI

[ornate osprey]

1.19?
Your best bet is the Battlemage Set, but Omega isn't set up to handle the new Ars Nouveau Armor System yet so you might not want to do that (no threads etc)

If you do decide to go ahead and craft it, remember to remove all threads from the set, otherwise they will probably go poof

[minor spindle]

im at the smithing table and it's not working

or am i doing it wrong?

[minor spindle]

yep im on 1.19

[ornate osprey]

it was a best guess, if that doesn't work, probably nothing will. Does JEI give you any recipes?

[minor spindle]

nothing

[deft hornet]

archmage was the old name of the tier 3 armor

[ornate osprey]

No, when you check the recipe for the Arcane Armor, does it give you anything

[deft hornet]

the arcane armor is probably removed from omega in 1.19, if i understood what soso said

[ornate osprey]

Welp. Then no armor at all in 1.19 until that's re-introduced

[minor spindle]

still none

i tried it in the smiting table too

whelp
this sux ....

[ornate osprey]

If there is no item called Arcane Armor or the item doesn't have a recipe, it probably won't work in the 1.19 alpha version

[minor spindle]

there's no arcane armor too

on JEI i mean

[ornate osprey]

Then as Alex said it doesn't exit currently

[minor spindle]

but it was mentioned in the book

[ornate osprey]

Because it used to exist in previous versions. But as you know since you play 1.19, Ars Nouveau revamped it's armor system and Ars Omega on 1.19 is still in alpha and hasn't ported all it's features yet. Which is why it is still marked as alpha

Alpha notes from Curseforge:

first attempt at a 1.19.2 port!

Quite a few things are missing,like the potion modifying blocks and the biome change ritual

but most of the glyphs and stuff work, and the demon realm mostly works

note: this version of the mod requires at least ars nouveau 3.8.3

-fixed crash with ars 3.8.3+
-fixed broken tooltips with ars 3.8.2+
-fixed demons spawning in invalid locations
-fixed infinity jar rendering

-fix vanilla worldgen getting messed up (oops lol)

-fix crash with rituals of shaping and aura

-fix crash with configurable rituals

-fix crash with some glyphs that dealt damage

-fix infinity crystal not working
It's still very much a work in progress and So-So (the author) is currently busy with university

[minor spindle]

that's too bad, guess i just have to suck it up for now
im currently being power crept by my friends in our server with a different mod

[ornate osprey]

Unless you can hand him a finished degree, pretty much yes

[deep sluice]

That is a bug, it does not exist

[naive ore]

I think it should instead be called a hint at a future feature, makes it sound much better lol.

[azure silo]

Does the chunck need to be loaded for a warp source relay to work ? I ask here because I especially think about the infinity crystal

I found one but I don't want to move all my base there so I would like to use warp relay to get source from it

would it work ?

[deep sluice]

the chunk needs to be loaded and that's still a base ars mechanic lol

[azure silo]

So how can an infinity crystal be used ?

I mean, doing the structure where it is required to have some serious spell and armor, meaning you already have a base, so you won't move everything just to be near one of these

[deep sluice]

🤷 if it's that much trouble don't bother using it then

[azure silo]

Oh or maybe it's just for doing the advanced ritual that require an insane amount of source ?

[deep sluice]

it's there if you wanna design around it

it's there for people to use

that use is left as an exercise to the user

[azure silo]

Oh okay, I was just asking if there were a specific purpose of not

And other question, does curse food ignore armor ?

[deep sluice]

I don't remember lol

curses are weird

worth a shot

[azure silo]

Well, one of my friend will be my ginea pig for this

[naive ore]

it seems reasonable to assume they do lol

[naive ore]

oh I love guinea pigs, so fun to experiment on.

[deep sluice]

I need to add compat for Ars Elemental's hellfire stuff

most notably buffing it's damage, and using elemental's is on fire check instead of mine in the hell flare glyph

[lost parrot]

what do the strctures to find the demon king look like and on which y-level?

[deep sluice]

... I somehow didn't put that on the FAQ yet lol

[lost parrot]

xD

[deep sluice]

stone brick structure thing on the surface of the demon realm

[lost parrot]

Ok thanks

How often do they spawn? cant seem to find any or I might be blind

[deep sluice]

mod version?

they're not that rare normally but some really old version (or 1.16 versions) have a bug making them rarer

[lost parrot]

Yea nvm I found one, was just unlucky flying around

does the demon king have to be summoned in the demon realm?

[deep sluice]

yep

[lost parrot]

Ok

[deep sluice]

I also forget if the demon realm return rifts are bugged and even more dangerous than advertised or not lol

... sigh they are, of course they are

[lost parrot]

Does the Demon King despawn after a while?

[deep sluice]

I don't remember, why

[lost parrot]

bc I accidentally summoned him, got killed and now I need to get my items back

Ok he despawned

[lost parrot]

Isnt the Model of the Arcane Spellbook wrong? 😄 Like Im holding the wrong side of the book

[deft hornet]

It is

[dense arrow]

these are nice and purple

arcane clay blocks

at least the golem works

[dense arrow]

Also, what's salt for?

[deep sluice]

yea, known issue

[deep sluice]

possibly nothing lol I didn't get a chance to add the stuff it was gonna craft

[deep sluice]

mod version?

[dense arrow]

1.18.2 2.7.4

[deep sluice]

Huh

Is it just the arcane one? Or all four magic clay variants?

[dense arrow]

lemme check

just arcane

also the name is weird

block.arsomega.arcane_clay_block

[deep sluice]

I'll add it to the list, pretty minor issue though

[dense arrow]

yee

just thought i would point it out

what are the bigger issues :0

anything crazy?

also this works fine its just when you place it

[deep sluice]

Lol what

Now I'm confused

Must've messed up the clock states

*blockstates

[naive ore]

lol I remember I once had that issue once when I was messing around with modding, oh the slightly better days of slightly dumber me.

[dense arrow]

hey um

how do i unlock the locked entries

[naive ore]

I think its locked behind advancements

correction, it is. I have checked the wiki before and it has mentioned needing an advancement to see the entry in game

[deep sluice]

Check the pinned FAQ lol
Basically craft the arcane compendium and then follow the progression into the demon realm

[minor stratus]

I just got the celestial wand, as of rn is its only use converting part of the demon realm to a plains biome or is there some other use thats currently implemented?

[deep sluice]

Doesn't do much yet lol

[minor stratus]

I mean, it certainly helps me get music discs quickly xD

[deep sluice]

lol what

[minor stratus]

A few creepers spawn

Just a few

[deep sluice]

LOL

erm, how is that different from vanilla plains? hypothetically

all you're doing is saving yourself a few tablets of nightfall lol

which are dirt cheap

no?

[minor stratus]

idk, I swear mobs spawn like 4x faster in here than in the overworld

[deep sluice]

might be a mob cap thing

if you fill or light up caves you'll get the same results in the overworld I'd imagine

(and do it at the same height)

[minor stratus]

you're probably right, but eh I'll stick with this dirt lot in the middle of nowhere xD

[azure silo]

How is used the glyph of transmute ? It says it cannot be used on placed blocks, so it's with Item in my inventory ?

[deep sluice]

no, items on the ground

kinda like smelting items

[deft hornet]

You can also use rune

[azure silo]

Oh okay thanks, i'll try

[azure silo]

Is there a "best" way to automate transmute ? I tried to use the pedestals but it didn't work so for now, the only way I found is to have a dropper drop a bunch of item on the floor before firing the spell from the turret

[deep sluice]

you can try using a rune

[azure silo]

Like having the turret fire a rune, then drop the item on the rune ?

oh no using a perma run

and drop the item on it

But I would still have to drop a bunch of item on the ground at some point

[deep sluice]

perma rune

dropper

or toss turret

you automate it the same way you automate smelt

unless it's a thing that needs the focus in which case you can't really automate it

[azure silo]

I automate smelt with furnaces most of the time 🤔 😂

[deep sluice]

lol why

so slow

so much fuel

[azure silo]

It's just I don't really like leaving item like that on the floor, especially when there is a pedestal which can hold item and that can be interacted by starbuncle and hopper

[deep sluice]

... what

you can just use a hopper on the machine

look at the FARTS system lol

just change the spell on the rune

[azure silo]

Yes but you still have item dropped on the ground at some point

I like things like pedestal or conveyor belt from create, where you can interact with items, but there are not really items entity

It's silly but I find this cleaner, because you're sure item won't despawn, you cannot pick them up if you walk on it, and so on...

[deft hornet]

just add pickup at the end

the rune will insert the items in the adjacent chest

[azure silo]

actually the runs don't seem to work with transmute

I tried do to it manually and when throwing iron on it, the run is consumed but the iron remains iron

[deep sluice]

huh

[dense arrow]

thats a smart idea: adding a feature to equip focuses to spell turrets :0

[dense arrow]

Omg tornado is so pretty with alot of projectiles

[azure silo]

swap target doesn't work with propagate ?

I tried something like projectile > swap target > propagate underfoot > conjure mageblock > aoe > piercing

It was suppose to trap the target in a cage of mageblock, like it would do if you juste do underfoot > mageblock > aoe > piercing but it didn't work

[deft hornet]

add one more aoe and pierce?

a 2x2 might be hard to place on an entity

[deep sluice]

propagate underfoot acts like true underfoot not like the underfoot glyph lol

I should probably change that

[azure silo]

oh okay, that's way

So no way to trap someone in a cage

😭

[ornate osprey]

might be that it works with reverse direction from TMG?

[vestal glade]

Propagate overhead
Why trap them in a cage when you can trap them in a solid block?

[deep sluice]

propatage underfoot and then propagate overhead will make it point up

seems doable to me

[vestal glade]

I like the "Oz" idea better... Drop a house on the witch.

🤣🤣

[deep sluice]

too bad there's no place schematic glyph

or good thing if you like hoarding magic slippers

[azure silo]

projectile > swap target > propagate underfoot propagate overhead > conjure mageblock > aoe > piercing ?

I tried but it did it on me

[deep sluice]

well, yea

propagate underfoot and overhead are from the thing you hit

so it'll work without the swap target lol

and no, you don't need swap target to do it to yourself either

you can use propagate self -> propagate underfoot if that was the goal

swap target is for... much weirder things

more niche

[azure silo]

No I want to do it on someone else

I want to hit someone with a projectile and spawn a cage of mageblock all around him

That's way I thought swap target would allow me to do a propagate, but over his head instead of mine

[deep sluice]

exactly

but propagate overhead is already over his head

[deep sluice]

so you do NOT need the swap target

you're welcome

[azure silo]

oooh okay, that's awesome

Thanks

[potent crown]

yo, whats the infinity crystal?

my buddy found one and i cant get on our server atm

he wants to know

[deep sluice]

just a source jar that slowly generates source out of thin air lol

[dense arrow]

oh that makes sense now

ive been thinking that it slowly generates source to put into a source jar

not that it WAS the source jar

i feel dumb now

[deep sluice]

lol

[vestal glade]

Conjure Construct, as a glyph or ritual. As a glyph, you'd have a schematic in your offhand. As a ritual, sacrifice the scematic to the brazier.
The difficulty with a glyph is supplying the materials. A ritual could use storages near the ritual to conjure the building.
Essentially, it would become the Ars version of the Create "SchematiCannon".
Maybe this idea belongs in Creo thread...

[naive ore]

thing is Creo requires Create (Obviously), so they already have access to the SchematiCannon

not much point in giving them what is essentially an Ars version

[minor stratus]

Oh, I also didn't know this

Also i highly recommend using packaging tape or mekanism to pick up / transfer the crystal (no clue if that's intended,but it is fun for pranks or moving portals from the tablet of open portal

[naive ore]

I bet you can use Carry On to transport it

if you have that

[potent crown]

Good to know

[shrewd raven]

boo, I was gonna install this for my next spell video, but it stops at 1.18.2?

any chance that would work anyway?

[ornate osprey]

There's a 1.19 alpha on curseforge, but with a couple of issues left to iron out, that's why it's an alpha

[shrewd raven]

so should I wait? I could do another spell video with Too Many Glyphs in the meantime, these shorts have really helped my subs after all, I can pump out a few more

[ornate osprey]

🤷‍♂️
You can always try it and see how much is already in, I haven't followed development all that closely

[shrewd raven]

so it will work? just has some WIP stuff in it?

I mean, if it has the stuff from previous versions, I'm fine with that. The spell videos do showcase the glyphs primarily, but if it's cool I could branch out or add it to my long-form videos

it seems I'm the weird one for using 1.19.2, tbh

[ornate osprey]

There's parts that are missing, parts that need change and parts that don't work, afaik.
It shouldn't brick your world, but I would make a backup just to be sure.

[shrewd raven]

hmm.......world backups are pretty big

has 6+ hard drives

but I'll do it

OR

this could be a chance to start a new modpack and actually use the server I am paying for

[deft hornet]

TMG is basically the same on all versions

[shrewd raven]

.......hang on...TMG

someone explained this to me before

I should know

OH

TOO MANY GLYPHS

nailed it

I have memory issues, pretty obvious

[deft hornet]

Omega is always a bit behind, usually because there's a lot of raw content and SoSo either play the older versions or don't have time at all

[shrewd raven]

I mean, from the CurseForge page, it does look pretty big, lots of glyphs, a whole dimension, new items, etc

what's this modpack that people are talking about on this server?

[ornate osprey]

#1066538065331494982

[shrewd raven]

does it include all the mods we have here?

[ornate osprey]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/arcane-isles
Most. Omega having a far higher power ceiling and not being finished porting leads to it not being part of the experience.
Same goes for all the addons stuck in 1.16.5

[shrewd raven]

so an ars pack without omega?

[ornate osprey]

correct

[shrewd raven]

how many mods? I do have a server but only 6GB (cuz I'm unemployed and can't afford to upgrade)

[ornate osprey]

Check the Relations on curseforge, I'd also like to take this out of Omegas chat

[shrewd raven]

oh yeah you did just send that link

my bad, I might still DL omega to tryout

thanks for the help

[exotic ermine]

is the demon king in it or no

[naive ore]

yesn't, I know its in the fully released versions but I dont know if its in the 1.19.2 version or not since thats still in the process of being ported

[exotic ermine]

is it in 1.16.5?

[naive ore]

uh it appears So-So or someone else who has played this mod in 1.16.5 shall have to answer that question as I have not played Omega in 1.16.5 versions

[dusky quiver]

No demon king on 1.16.5

[deep sluice]

it's not? I thought it was lol

oh well

[dusky quiver]

I cant find the egg name

Or iam writing wrong

What is the correclty id ?

[deep sluice]

I don't know if it has a spawn egg lol

why not try and use the staff?

or the summon command?

[naive ore]

Wait the staff isn’t the egg

I thought staff = egg not staff equivalent to egg

[deep sluice]

lol what

why would I do that

nah the staff is separate lol

[azure silo]

Is there a way to make a turret use the alchemical focus ? I would like to automate netherite creation with Diamend spell

[deft hornet]

nope

[azure silo]

oh so no infinite netherite for me 😢

[dusky quiver]

i need the id

to summon

[deep sluice]

can't you autocomplete with tab lol

ars omega doesn't add many mobs at all

[dusky quiver]

okie ssusy baka bukaro

[deft hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/buckle-up-buckaroo-caitlyn-jenner-herbert-garrison-principal-victoria-south-park-gif-20622264

i think to this scene every time you say that

[naive ore]

My dumbbutt hasnt played with the staff during a time when it wasnt a single use like spawn eggs, so I think of it like a spawn egg lol

I mean I might have played a version where it had infinite uses but I didn't exactly need to fight the demon king by then

[exotic ermine]

How does the transmutation spell work?

[exotic ermine]

nvm

[warm swan]

How do I use the infinite source jar on top of the ars omega tower

[potent crown]

Relays

[warm swan]

Thanks

[warm swan]

It’s still not working

[potent crown]

Place a relay, and use a dominion wand to connect them

The use the dominion wand to move it to anything, most likely other jars

[warm swan]

So place a relay on the infinite source jar then use the wand to connect it to a jar

[naive ore]

if im not dumb, yes

[warm swan]

Is there a specific relay I have to use

Got it

Thanks

[dusky quiver]

Yeah doenst have demon king

Nvm have

1.16.5 have demon king

What is that unbound wither? Seens same wither from vanilla

[deft hornet]

There's a spell that allow to temporarily tame a wither

[dusky quiver]

I see thanks sussy boyi

[deep sluice]

Well yea

[dusky quiver]

but yes

the mod have

the demon king

[deep sluice]

I thought so

[dusky quiver]

cap

[naive ore]

I have no clue if its been discovered or not but on the alpha using the arcane staff I can't even cast projectile -> harm, it adds 3 advanced amplifies to the harm glyph but the maximum allowed is two so it fails

I consequently discovered TMG doesnt limit the maximum number of Amplify II and Amplify IIIs you can have

[deft hornet]

Yeah, Derringer doesn't seem to care

[naive ore]

I see….

Welp that just means I use configs to limit it

If I can

[deep sluice]

Which alpha version?

[naive ore]

the most recent

I noticed afterward it happened with the enchanter's sword as well though that requires amplifies to start with

[deep sluice]

Number please

Of the specific one you have installed

[naive ore]

on curseforge the most recent I could use was alpha 3

[deep sluice]

And that's what you're using?

[naive ore]

yup

[deep sluice]

sigh that's annoying

I'll look into that

[naive ore]

I reported it here cause I first noticed it with the arcane staff and after reporting it was when I found out about it happening with the enchanter's sword, so it may be more of a bug with base Ars

[deep sluice]

I think the ars one is by design bc they hate fun

It's one of the two main Ars design decisions I disagree with

The other being that leap does no kinetic damage and cancels all your fall damage

[naive ore]

It would totally be better if you had to live with your choices of flying 100 blocks into the air with leap and not being able to just use it close to the ground to negate all fall damage yeah

The decision on limited amplifies wasn't necessarily a bad one either way though, it prevents amplify spam and therefore forces more complex spells to increase damage

[deep sluice]

Lol glad someone agrees

[deep sluice]

No no I like the limited amplifies

I just wish the sword amplify ignored the limit

[naive ore]

oh that

yeah I agree there as well

[deep sluice]

Limited amplifies are cool bc they allow for more interesting spells

[naive ore]

I will always agree with people getting karma lol, even if its me.

[naive ore]

Once I learned this I actually switched to using advanced amplify on the spell I was using, the limit is there for a reason, even if it meant I went from 350 to 120 damage from a spell

[elfin obsidian]

What are the extents of the clay golems? Like can it hold a weapon or have armor? What are the modes? I understand I can use a dominion wand on it but it's kind of confusing

[naive ore]

This is the wiki entry

[elfin obsidian]

Oh okay, thank you

That's awesome tho

[compact quiver]

Has anyone found a use for temportal collapse, seems really interesting but cant think of anything that would benefit from it

[naive ore]

well say I want a really short pulse of redstone, thats a use

[shadow atlas]

got a bug to report! some stuff from addon mods dont go into the spellcaster OR trinkets pouch (example: any magic chalks (or just chalk for that matter))
(add more compat stuff)

[shadow atlas]

another bug! divine smite doesnt apply shocked effect

[naive ore]

I just double checked with Jacky, but yeah these are 1.19.2

speaking of bugs, I got a bug to report for Ars Nouveau so to that channel I go

[shrewd raven]

quick question, is there a modpack everyone is using that has the latest Ars Omega? I'm on 1.19.2 atm and it doesn't work, so I was thinking of installing a modpack for 1.18.2 or whatever Omega was in to film

[harsh swan]

To film? Machinima or let's play?

[shrewd raven]

uh, just guides and shorts

[shrewd raven]

but yeah, trying to find a modpack to play ars omega, but none of my current ones are sufficient

[fallow wedge]

Hoping for 1.19.2 push 🙏

[ornate osprey]

Ongoing, there's an alpha version on Curseforge if you haven't seen that yet

[winged grotto]

@deep sluice Oof! Looks like we have a hard conflict now over Magic Clay + Lily of the Valley. https://github.com/DerringersMods/TooManyGlyphs/issues/9

[deep sluice]

Hmmm, 1.16 lol
I mean, I sorta think I should get the recipe in this case since, well, poison flower. What else could I use?

[winged grotto]

Hmm. Wither rose is a bit too advanced for a novice glyph... This is a real poser.

[deep sluice]

Yea if we both need early game poisonous flowers that's an obvious difference

Failing all else I can add a new item crafted using a lily of the valley and a source gem or something like that

But that seems dumb

[minor stratus]

This is an ars omega structure right (I'm playing on a modpack but I swear its ars omega)? I've only seen these spawn in the demon realm, can these spawn in the overworld too?????

[deep sluice]

It is not and I think it's a dungeon from Quark lol

I have nothing to do with it and no idea why it's in the demon realm

[minor stratus]

oh I always just saw TONS of them in the demon realm and I thought it was part of it

[mortal vault]

Naah, Quark is just weird, saw that in my world too

[naive ore]

you see a ton of them because the demon realm has a ton of empty space that fits the y levels they are in and so they are incredibly simple to find

[winged grotto]

Is there another common flower that has a distinctly baleful aspect to it? I don't need poisonous specifically so much as a connection with hostility toward players and peaceful mobs like villagers. For example, I chose the association of blue orchid with swamp and storm magic for , and the association of the poppy with plains and villages for .

[keen kite]

Could just use a red mushroom.

[dry heath]

what sort of state is the 1.19.2 alpha in? thinking of adding it to my enigmatica 9 server

[naive ore]

I mean it can be used but there are features missing

oh scratch what I said

It may be more functional than I realized

[winged grotto]

Amanita muscaria? It's a bit of a stretch.

[keen kite]

True, but any other ideas?

[winged grotto]

Maybe tulips, since they're mildly toxic?

[deep sluice]

are you saying for you or for me to use the tulip?

they seem more common so they might fit better for filters than a powerful damage glyph lol

[winged grotto]

I'll switch it to a tulip. A powerful damage glyph at T1 though? Interesting. The only powerful T1 damaging glyph I was considering was Conjure Explosive, which would create a lit TNT at the target location.

(And tag it as duplicated, so no Entropinnyum hijinks.)

Well... not exactly, but Ancient Harm would be either a rare find in chests, an endgame craft, or both.

The TNT fuse delay would make dealing reliable damage with it a challenge, but it should provide a way to do explosion-based mining and/or crafting (hi Pneumaticraft).

[deep sluice]

It’s not powerful powerful, but it’s pretty good for a tier 1

[shrewd raven]

How fortuitous, I was just experimenting with explosive creation spells

Using place block, linger and redstone signal though

It'd be nice if we could have a traveling 'vehicle' say with linger on it dropping TNT like a carpet bombing run, but I don't think there's anything I can use for that atm

[mortal vault]

@deep sluice A friend of mine is being a bit mean and refusing to upgrade her book to tier 4 because it loses the dye- do you think you'll add that at some point, that the books can still be dyed at that tier?

[deep sluice]

I'll try and do that when I get a chance

[naive ore]

You know if you use a texture pack, anything can be dyed lol

That way once it is implemented, the texture pack can just be disabled and the book dyed normally. Ta da, your friend is happy.

[strange mango]

it doesn't

my book is still white

just.. not holding it properly

btw Idk if this is intended but

[minor stratus]

it doesnt lose the dye, it just loses its ability to be dyed again in the future iirc

[strange mango]

The protection ritual also blocks the Interact spell?

I've been reading and I think it should only block the Break Spell

I found this out when I'm using an Enchanter's Eye with a (Projectile -> Interact) bound to a Scry Crystal pointing to a Storage Lectern [Meaning when I use the Enchanter's Eye, it will open the Storage Lectern, via the spell Interact]

But while I have the Area of Protection status, the Enchanter's Eye fails to open the Storage Lectern

[deep sluice]

Blocks anything that checks if you're allowed to break blocks, like a chunk claim

[shrewd raven]

quick question myself, got on Enigmatica 8, perhaps I installed Ars Omega (forget) but now Elemental and other mods seem to be rolled back, no elemental armor, glyphs missing, etc.

Is there any version of MC where Omega, Nouveau and Elemental all coexist at their newest version or close?

Enigmatica 8 is a 1.18.2 if I recall. though it might be worth checking the versions of the mods

Probably a dumb question tbh, just want the most options for screen-recording

actually, is Omega in a playable state in 1.19.2? I see alpha, but is that fine? chunks of it haven't been disabled or anything?

[shrewd raven]

rather than just use a texture pack, can you just manually edit the skin? I've seen people put custom paintings and banners in vanilla, is the book texture un-filetype-locked enough to just paint it the desirable color?

I also recall that when I did that thing with the book using netherite to make it unburnable, it turned black

[naive ore]

What exactly do you mean with edit the skin... cause the only way to edit a texture without using a texture pack (that I know of) is to download the mod files, edit the texture there, and built the jar yourself. Inconvenient to say the least.

[shrewd raven]

oh yeah the jar files, but that's how modding worked back in the day if I recall. Didn't think it was that hard

just an option, assuming you can find the book tex file

[naive ore]

Hard, goodness no, just inconvenient compared to the texture pack.

[deep sluice]

well, technically not disabled but effectively

it takes active work to move stuff over and I just haven't had time to move all the stuff to 1.19 yet. But most of it I did

[shrewd raven]

the glyphs?

that's pretty much all I'm worried about, doing another spell-mix video, after all

[naive ore]

Oh yeah glyphs all work from what I’ve tested. I mean a few textures aren’t there but that’s not something I expect to be done in the alpha to be honest

[deep sluice]

Oh yea I think those all work