👑wasteland-king

[river cape]

Captains will not answer you in any channel. Personally, I doubt they even read them.
One of the mods will answer when they come online.

[knotty abyss]

thx

[versed hedge]

Matchmaking of wasteland king is by the grade first of all and also by trophies you made... so if your state is in legend ranking you will not get matched with states in bronze ranking, its to try to make it more fair and to balance it. Its not always working perfectly since people can change the strength of states by moving states so a state in bronze ranking can have much stronger people then others im bronze... its also trickable by letting your hub get occupied by another state to drop in points/trophies. But its as much as possible fair to balance the matchmaking in strength by points

[dark topaz]

The red trail are my current members in the Mud for the state defense in taking up space.

[sage spear]

I think you meant to post this to your state discord?

[dark topaz]

Update on 777 members in Mud

[mint fulcrum]

Wrong chat…. You’re on public pns server

[quartz oracle]

Any advice for a WK first timer? I’m scared

[snow fern]

Don't go on the mud, use t1s to gather, send same troops as tower leader, make sure to have alot of healing and troop training speedups

[mint fulcrum]

Send same troops as lead if they super the tower. Food mil is nice to help with rebuilding troops. Don’t nap too early.

[quartz oracle]

Thank you!

[distant socket]

Fill your infirmary up with t1s so your high tier troops go to deep healing.

[livid cedar]

Do governor awards carry over? I know the coffers (rss from other states do)

[sage spear]

No, boxes reset

[white totem]

how is everyone's svs going?

[silk thorn]

Hi do we get 300% troop buff by hitting our state turrets?

[normal whale]

Only the troops that are killed in the turrets and the hub are counted towards the 300% come back boosts. Also you only get it for the amount of might you loose for the troops that are killed.

[versed hedge]

I dont know... i missed the start and now im lost somehow 😂

[white totem]

Our SvS so hard tuday.. 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cash-money-counting-money-gif-17544086

Spending

😂😂

[sharp plover]

Do we send heroes to reinforce a turret or hub? My two previous states would kick you out of the turret if you sent heroes. My current state seems to feel it’s necessary to send them. So what are the thoughts on this?

[mint fulcrum]

Is it supered?

[sharp plover]

Yes

[livid cedar]

We matched with @fresh prairie and the differences in power is just 🤣

[fresh prairie]

Ohhhh. Lol

[livid cedar]

I'm already sad thinking about next VC 🤣🥲

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. Everyone will be on your state.

[livid cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-running-away-scared-run-away-gif-25928776

[mint fulcrum]

Supered towers transfer stats of lead to everyone else. No need to send heros.

[plucky ibex]

If we lose our state hub, will we still get the 300% fast comeback troop boost?

[grave dagger]

Yes it will start automatically. But that will be the only boost you will get.

[quaint cedar]

if we lost our state, do we still have the 300% boost？

[livid cedar]

Yes #👑wasteland-king message

[fresh prairie]

Or the if he looked at the question right above his

[quaint cedar]

sorry, missed the question above

[fresh prairie]

It’s okay. Happens a lot lol

[plucky ibex]

Thanks

[plush wing]

Transport fees go into your coffers if you colonize correct? I mean whatever state you take.. if they transport, then the tax on that goes into your coffers?

[plush wing]

??

I asked if transport fees go into coffers if you are colonized

[white totem]

You mean the payment tax to another state

lol sorry

[plush wing]

Well to us actually.. we colonize.. they transport and those fees go in our coffers

[white totem]

it has nothing to do with your resources. I do not think . let me check

Give me 2 minutes to check..

I didn't pay attention (when our hub was taken) if the resources were extracted from the own hq or from the hub

I assume it refers to state resources (hub)

[livid gazelle]

You made it to green!

[mint fulcrum]

Does that mean I talk too much 😂

[livid gazelle]

Nah

[normal whale]

when another state has conquered your state. This state gets taxes on transport and looting (because both are taxable) this goes into the state treasury that conquered your state

[shut peak]

Is it not normal to have units lost while protecting turret but not have kills?

[silk thorn]

20% of our march dies

[nocturne spire]

Is Nataly no longer available in WK?

[mint fulcrum]

What grade are you?

Gold and higher she is

[grave dagger]

Only available in Gold, Platinum, and Diamond

[nocturne spire]

Thank you, I looked but missed that. I also didn't look very good.

[nocturne spire]

I think we dropped down a tier, thank you.

[grave dagger]

No problem. As a fighter main I have to know where I’m getting my Nataly frags from. Lol

[mint fulcrum]

No worries at all. Always scary when layouts change on game without announcements 😂

[sage spear]

You don’t get kills if the attacks are same state players

[dusky elm]

Could I trouble a mod to pin this? this seems to be relevant in platinum as well and this has been immensely helpful

[fleet mesa]

Seems reasonable

If anyone has a more complete or detailed list of points and phases, please share! 😊

[white totem]

Correct me if I’m wrong
The state has 3 hours to appoint a Governor and if it doesn’t the R5 of the alliance occupying the hub will be automatically appointed.

[fresh prairie]

2 hours. But yeah.

[white totem]

Thank you

[left grove]

Hey, does anyone know of a discord server for WK NAPs?

[normal whale]

they are individual for each state.

[left grove]

That's what I thought but I had a friend mention that there was one a loooong time ago that had a good amount of states in it. I told her I'd look into it for her

[normal whale]

what exactly do you want to know?

[left grove]

Nothing. You answered my question, I was just supplying you with more (useless) information 🙂

So thank you

[normal whale]

usually each state has its own personal discord group. But when it comes to having a nap among the states, it's individual, it depends on what kind of deal each state wants 🙂

[left grove]

Yes, thanks

[normal whale]

Oh ok glady 🙂

[floral ginkgo]

Oh, and IOL? That just took over 596? Y’all SUCK.

[quartz flame]

#📚sanctuary-rules not the time. Keep your drama elsewhere, if your going to say rude things, don't type them out

[mint fulcrum]

Sorry for the ghost pings. Didn’t realize I was taken to the top, 😂

[topaz sigil]

Do you get rewards for mud sitting in WK?

[inner sable]

I know what you’re referring to. It’s invite only. Picked by a certain group of players. Im not privy to who’s in it now or if they still invite players.

[fleet mesa]

there were several active that I knew of, and likely many that I didn't. they tend to be built on personal relationships, so when people move states, they can often fall apart over time.

[fleet mesa]

not unless you get attacked, which I do not recommend.

[mint fulcrum]

There are two I know of. The first one was the larger states and you had to be voted into it. It was older states and they didn’t let just anyone into it. The other one is still alive but less active as the death of Rita translator bot didn’t help it, but they still let people onto it. Also with Nataly frags being included and the changing of wasteland king, it’s not as advantageous for folks to nap right away anymore.

[spring geode]

I could repost a more detailed chart if you prefer, but I think it's just more of the same after that point, so I just edited the pinned comment to mention that.

[sand lion]

If. The gov gave you the aide title. Ask you to award some box. I try but the game dont let me could be the lv of the hq....responsable for not let you?

[oblique bane]

The aide can assign titles and hand out rss from the state coffers if you have any… only the governor can hand out boxes

[left grove]

Awesome! Thank you

[left grove]

Awesome, thanks for the info

[left grove]

Thanks for the info

[grizzled dust]

I used to be in that server but did not find value in it. Only had about 50 or so states active. Was never matched up with anyone in it so I left it.

[barren moth]

Mud sitting or no mud sitting..

[mint fulcrum]

Monsters that would sit in your mud will spend diamonds to hit you… imo work on ensuring grass near mud is filled with camps.

[river cape]

If you have farms that can be on to renew their shield, or don’t mind if they’re hit if it falls…gives the person lots of points, lol. The other team too though.
If your state has NAP based on WK participation mud sitting is a great way for smaller hq to help their team get NAP.

[tough spruce]

Sent it to you 😘

[cold ruin]

Any suggestions on the best way to take another states HUB? Captain rallies? Solo attacks'? Combination of both?

[fresh prairie]

Your strongest starts a rally. Everyone matches his units

[atomic mural]

Control the turrets for a time to cause casualties. Doesn't matter what alliance controls them just as long as not the hub holder. Super Rally the hub with your strongest attacker to suit the situation. Ie Shooter vs Rider or Rider vs Rider depending on stats. Reinforce that rally with highest troop type available. Ie t11 or t10 to maximise damage.

[river cape]

@cold ruin I agree with Hoff.
When you control turrets, their fire on the hub does a lot of the dirty work of killing hub holders for you. Unless they have oodles of people to continuously fill it, their numbers will slowly go down.
This is especially effective, and a preferred method when the hub is full of t12.
Note: if the hub captain leaves to refresh his troops, his rally size will remain, but slowly lessen as the turrets fire so his full march will no longer fit in.

[prisma forge]

Alli need is right before thanks for the info.☺️

[jolly gulch]

Hi,
How are the first few WKs arranged in context of which states vs each other? And when does the alignment change?

[fading prairie]

New states will compete in a STARTER GRADE along with other starter states for their 1st and 2nd Wasteland King before being matched by their grade level.

[jolly gulch]

Thanks Kato

[opaque pollen]

Can someone tell me what points you would win/lose if you are in gold and lost your own hub but took another hub?

[grave dagger]

+250. I believe. +500 for taking a Hub. And -250 for losing yours. I think.

[opaque pollen]

Yes that’s how I read it but I know the point system description isn’t that intuitive. Seems a bit off you can get more points for losing your own hub but taking another than just keeping your own.

[grave dagger]

Think they did that intentionally to try and force more offensive action during WK

[icy hamlet]

When fast comeback is active can you still use training speed up or does it not work?

[mint fulcrum]

Can use speedups, training boost, and cost reduction talent.

[signal geode]

Anyone have an excel sheet of the mud map? Sorry, if not allowed, please delete.

[livid gazelle]

I think there's one in the pins

[deft jacinth]

Hey! Could you tell me if there any possibility to see what states at what grade at the moment?

[versed hedge]

Click on event center - upcoming - wasteland king and then on what i circled yellow on my screenshots

There you can see the top 100 states

[deft jacinth]

Thanks! I know this, but the problem is that Id like to see the 3 lowest grades, And it seems its impossible

[versed hedge]

Good point... i dont know 🫣

[versed hedge]

You can check by states clicking on their hubs what they are in (bronze, silver, gold etc) but it will be a lot to click if you search those for one league

[deft jacinth]

Yeahp me too( Was Looking at the Hub information but didnt saw that

[versed hedge]

Click on " View Details " and " Award " from the hub you want to have the information which grade it has

Or directly governors awards

[deft jacinth]

That is smart! Thank you!

[versed hedge]

You are welcome, im happy i could help you 😊🌼

[deft jacinth]

So sweet! Thank you so much!

[rotund wave]

Does the Aide get any type of boost? I see the boosts the gov and other titles get, but I can't find any about boosts for the aide.

[sage spear]

Just the pleasure of helping the governor.

[rotund wave]

That sucks. How do all of the other titles have boosts and the aide nothing? Can the Aide be assigned another title too, like Aide and Deputy?

[sage spear]

Nope, only 1 title per player.

[rotund wave]

They really need to fix that. Is not fair that all titles have a boost but the Aide, and the Aide helps the Gov

[versed hedge]

Gov can give aide a nice box to compensate that they dont get a boost

[mint fulcrum]

I like rotating aide amongst the R5s and they can assign titles for their group for that day.

[rotund wave]

The box is nice and appreciated but... The gov can give themselves a nice box too, and give a number of boxes out to ppl that are getting a title with a boost. Just pointing out how the aide is coming up short in comparison to the other titles, as I am sure other have too if I was to scroll through. If the gov is getting a 12% boost, why not give the aide 6%?

[sage spear]

Just the way it is setup. I just ask for the Envious title permanently 🤣

[dusty venture]

Of course YOU would 😂

[versed hedge]

You can also give aide to a farm from the one you want to help with titles and the main another title 🫣😁

[sage spear]

Lol. I love my eye 🥳
How have you been?

[dusty venture]

Good. Prepping for WK if you can't tell. 😂

[sage spear]

Waking up at 300am to pointlessly kill my troops every 2 weeks. So much fun 🤣🎉

[dusty venture]

4am here....good times!

[unkempt bone]

I got a question if someone could answer. If a state never fights to take another state and just NAP's all the time, Wouldn't they eventually drop down to bronze league? Or does holding your own hub enough points to stay where you are at?

[versed hedge]

There is an awesome chart made by kato, from the points i guess if you not lose your hub but also not conquer another hub you should be between gold and silver league
#👑wasteland-king message

[unkempt bone]

so you would never drop down to bronze if all you do is hold your hub?

[dark topaz]

(My Sanctuary ) is Land of Salvation

Reslav should be coming soon to make 6 777 in the mud and BestWinner defending

[grave dagger]

Wrong server. This is PnS server. Have to post on your state or alliance one. 😬

[sage spear]

No, in silver you get points for keeping your hub. So you bounce between silver and gold.

[unkempt bone]

Thank you

[unkempt ibex]

you need to post this in your state’s discord server.
this is the official Puzzles & Survival discord server for all players globally

[agile relic]

Just confirming for new states - you have 2 Starter grade WK then are paired to leagues?

[shell sierra]

Do State Points affect Trophy Points in any way? Or is Trophy determined just by current trophy rank and hub activity?

[unkempt ibex]

if you’ve already done your 2 zenith wars, and your state is now open, yes

[agile relic]

The state in question has not yet no

They have had one WK against a single state in the same starter time as them

[unkempt ibex]

Trophies are determined by whether you hold or lose your own hub, and whether you take any other hubs. The amount of trophies added or subtracted based on those 2 factors varies based on your state’s affinity grade

[unkempt ibex]

okay then they will have another WK in the starter affinity grade this week, and next WK they will be paired to the leagues

[agile relic]

Perfect - just wanted to confirm. Also it is POSSIBLE they will have 2 states to fight based on numbers and how they break down, but not as likely ?

[unkempt ibex]

If they only face 1 state for their last WK, I would say that they’re more likely to have to face 2 states this WK than they were during the last WK, but i can’t say for certain.

If they do only face 1 state again this WK, make them aware that for the next WK they will definitely have to face 2 other states due to being added into the grading system

[midnight tapir]

Question here. If your state is colonized. Is 300% comeback boost activated automatically after the WK? Or does it depend on the colonizers? That is, can they choose not to turn it on for the colonized state? I thought it is activated automatically after the war. But folks in my new state argue it depends on the colonizers.

[versed hedge]

Its automatically

[midnight tapir]

IKR? Dunno what's up with them still arguing the other way. They say they've been colonized several times, but never received 300% comeback boost every time. (I wasn't in the state when they were colonized.) Weird.

[versed hedge]

Maybe they not always noticed the boost 👀

[livid gazelle]

Is it possible they didn't hurt any troops to actually get it?

[spice prairie]

Do you get points for hitting HUB/Turrets in own state? Was told no, but what if the state is fighting for turret/HUB? No points?

[sage spear]

You don’t get kill points, just casualties

[midnight tapir]

Even if you didn't hurt any of your troops, you can still see the boost icon. They were saying they didn't even see that.

[livid gazelle]

That's really odd

[midnight tapir]

Right?

[livid gazelle]

It should have activated automatically once the event was over. But it won't show up until the event is completely over

[midnight tapir]

Yup, that's exactly my understanding. And exactly what happened to my old state when it was colonized.

[livid gazelle]

Yeah every time we've been colonized it would start is as soon as the other state secured our hub or the event ended completely

[midnight tapir]

Question about Kill Points. Can you get kill points by attacking a resource tile in the mud? (I thought you couldn't unless your target's infirmary is full. Otherwise, no kills from a tile attack.) If so, does the tile owner have to be from an enemy state?

[sage spear]

You get kill points for foreign troops on rss tiles. You do not get casualty points unless your troops die (deep healing or alliance infirmary or beyond)

[floral nest]

Hub Shield question. Why does a state get a shield on their Hub while occupying a foreign state?

[livid gazelle]

Probably to encourage you taking another state

It's a good strategy if you can take a foreign state because that shield means you don't really have to put a strong defense in there

[onyx hemlock]

Noobie question here. My state is doing its first zenith war today. What’s the point in throwing low level troops at the turrets just to gain casualty points? I have to spend a lot more than I earn in rewards to heal the wounded. Is there a benefit to doing this?

[mint fulcrum]

Fill infirmary with t1. Everything after goes to deep heal. Those all count as deaths even though they don’t die. Can get a good fast comeback from all the “deaths”

[versed hedge]

Dont forget to heal the t1 in infirmary in case your deep heal is going to be full (use instant heal first before start healing)

Also cost red. talent is good choice to start before healing infirmary troops, in case you dont need that talent for the next 24h

[white totem]

How do we appoint the governor?

[sage spear]

There is a second Wasteland Icon on the bottom corner of the map. They click on it and then will have the option to assign from there.
Make sure there is no one coming or going from the alliance and that they have a stable internet connection.

[severe bobcat]

Will the times one state occupied the hub summed up if nobody occupied it for 8 hours or will count the longest from the several times?

[grave dagger]

It’s combined longest time. You can check it on that states HUB.

[livid cedar]

Can you transfer governor role?

[sage spear]

No

[livid cedar]

Thank you. Is it true that you only have 2 hours to assign governor? And after that the r5 is automatically appointed governor?

[sage spear]

Correct

[fleet mesa]

How to Appoint Governor
Once your hub is secure, either after it is shielded or at the end of the event, the R5 of the occupying alliance can appoint the governor.

Look for a new pop-up icon in the lower right corner of your screen on the map view. If you are viewing or in a different state, you may need to go view your own state to see the pop-up.

Make sure you have a stable internet connection and people are not coming and going. The person you want to appoint governor must be in your alliance to be appointed.

If a new governor is not appointed within the 2 hour timer, the governor title will automatically pass to the R5 of the occupying alliance.

[turbid valve]

Do rss tile hits get added to the fast come back?

[mint fulcrum]

No

[zenith notch]

1, 5 and 20. We accidentally took all 3 on purpose

[livid gazelle]

Accidentally on purpose lol

[winter sierra]

Wasteland King/War Introduction & Rules

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803653235617431572/1028079815867256832/IMG_7762.jpg

[acoustic tulip]

Currently, there's only two Diamond states, are they just going to fight each other? 🤔 🤭

[white totem]

in theory yes

you have to look at the classification to see how many states have the same points as those with diamonds.

[acoustic tulip]

Is it possible to only meet one more state? Or it has to be a battle between 3 states?

[white totem]

since Westeland, there have always been fights between 3 states

I have never met 2 states only.. I am not referring only to my state but in general

you will be able to see next time

[lapis cosmos]

I have been in 2 way battles (us and 1 other state) and I have been in 4 way battles (us and 3 other states) they are rare but possible

[acoustic tulip]

That's really interesting! How did it go?

[lapis cosmos]

Both were pretty boring but I may of slept through most of wasteland like normal so may of missed good parts.

It's unique tho. It's something you only hear about and then when you are put through it it like huh this is really strange

[acoustic tulip]

It is. I hope we get to experience 4 state battles one day. Thank you for telling me

[sonic path]

Do the Wk phase rewards change depending on the state’s rank? Or are they same regardless of the tier one is in?

[fresh prairie]

In legend won’t happen. 🥺

[fresh prairie]

Each rank has slightly different rewards.

[sonic path]

Is there a page / details which can show all rewards / ranking system ?

Also, is it ever possible that one falls so low in ranking that there are no good rewards any more?

[sonic path]

Lol. Remind me to check Upcoming tab next time @fresh prairie 😅 Thank you so much for this. 🙂

[fresh prairie]

It was easier to make video than to explain 😅

You’re welcome

[versed hedge]

Somehow we got kicked out of diamond league 😁

[fresh prairie]

Ohhhhhhhh. No more fighting with ichi

I won’t get to watch you scout

[cinder patrol]

And so the prophecy has come true! There are two states in Diamond

[stoic summit]

For wasteland king, are you always matched up w the same states? Or will we face new opponents?

[sage spear]

Sometimes you get the same states if they stay around the same point rankings, but it can vary.

[stoic summit]

@sage spear thank you!

[acoustic scaffold]

Good <time of day>

Is wasteland king match ups a random selection or is it based of the destroyer damage?

[river cape]

Trophies. It has nothing to do with destroyer damage at all. Information should be in the pins.

[atomic mural]

So what happens if less than 9 states in diamond? I ask because rules say Legend is top 9 in diamond.

[fresh prairie]

Then I doubt there will be less than 9

[acoustic tulip]

In Legendary, we get to meet!

[south harbor]

come with me..👉👈🤭

[acoustic tulip]

I will follow pretty lady 🥰

[atomic mural]

11th to 5th all in Range of demotion to Platinum.

Getting 4 states to want promotion to diamond is a very small % chance.

[fresh prairie]

But there will always be 9 legend Because some get promoted to legend

[atomic mural]

Rules say top 9 in diamond get promoted to legend.

Currently 9 legend 2 diamond

[fresh prairie]

I guess your not understanding. There will always only be 9 legend. Each week.

It’s a league of just 9

[atomic mural]

From Diamond. The rules can be interpretated as such. No diamond = no legend.

[fresh prairie]

But the have rewards for each Diamond and legend. Diamond is one rank yes. Top 9 in Diamond are bumped to legend each week. But legend is still technically Diamond. IMO

[atomic mural]

Exactly, Legend is still diamond. The rules state Top 9 in diamond are promoted to Legend. There are currently 11 diamond. Broken down as 9 legend and 2 diamond. By trophy there are currently 6 of them within 1 nap of demotion to platinum.

[fresh prairie]

I think we are explaining the same thing. Just differently

[atomic mural]

My question was what happens in that scenario. I suspect it will still be top 9 from all ranks so even if every state dropped it wouldn't matter. Just less rewards for those states.

[atomic mural]

Well they've addressed it!

[rough stone]

Question if our hub has been taken by another state and WK is coming back third WK coming up do we got up against that same state we went up against the state twice already will be a third time as well

[fresh prairie]

More likely you won’t go up against the one that took your hub.

[rough stone]

Man I sure hope not lol thank you

[fresh prairie]

They should increase trophy’s while you decreased.

[rough stone]

So since this our third WK we would be matched with states in the same league right

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. States closer to your trophy rank.

[teal imp]

Is it possible to max out WK rewards with just casualty points?

[mint fulcrum]

Yes

[grave dagger]

Sounds like an expensive way to do it

[mint fulcrum]

T1 in infirm then regular to deep heal. Not bad at all.

[livid gazelle]

No but the recovery afterwards sucks

[mint fulcrum]

Use an off troop and not as bad.

Did my 29 shooter last time and had ~230k to 270k in deep heal. Used shooters to get points. Think I ended up ~ 12 mil to 14 mil in comeback points. Jumped my shooters up a lot with comeback. Think I calculated about 4 mil might worth of shooters lost.

IMO worth it for a very limited frag./hero

[livid gazelle]

I used an off troop which is why I barely have to full marches of fighters

[sage spear]

I still just use my t9 shooters. For everything. Regular infirm, deep healing, tile hits, killing riders 🤣

[mint fulcrum]

What about fighters?

[sage spear]

What are those? 🤣

[mint fulcrum]

We call them speed bumps in our alliance

[sage spear]

They are the thing I send at a turret when infirmaries are full and I know I wont get them back. Lol

[teal imp]

Thanks!

[mint fulcrum]

Np

[grizzled brook]

🤣

[bitter briar]

hello, I need help I made the mistake of going to a state where I didn't want to, go can you help me

personally I don't want to wait 30 days

[latent raven]

Buy a locater

Nvm

[mint fulcrum]

Have to wait it out. Make friends.

[bitter briar]

mdr 🤣 friends I have some

[livid gazelle]

That's how we ended up with a new member of our alliance. He traveled to our state by accident

[river haven]

Ok just to clarify- the change in points is now if you only occupy your own state , legend is -300, diamond is -200, platinum is -150, gold is -100. Silver is +250, bronze is +350. There was no other point adjustments in regards to state trophies. Correct?

Oh wait they also adjusted if your states invaded slightly….

So current numbers for losing your hub are legend -500, diamond -300, platinum -250, gold -200, silver -150, bronze +250

[lyric warren]

Sanctuaries in green can not be attacked during WK, correct? Or is it only opposing states can't attack but in-state can?

[fresh prairie]

Opposing states can not attack anything in green.

In - state can attack

[lyric warren]

Ok. Thanks.

[mint fulcrum]

Also you can’t attack someone from same state in another state during wk

[candid haven]

If i fly to new states after WK. Does the 300% boost still work on me?

[livid gazelle]

You lose it

[candid haven]

Thanks

[dire tartan]

I have few questions guys, hope someone can enlighten me.

1. Do fast comeback boost applies to troops injured in HUB only and not in turrets?

2. Do we have to fill-in our infimary before WK so that the troops injured will automatically go to Deep Healing?

3. How do I know if my troops will die (gone permanently) and not just injured that can be healed?

[normal whale]

Only the troops that are killed in the turrets and the hub are counted towards the 300% come back boosts. Also you only get it for the amount of might you loose for the troops that are killed.

[willow verge]

If you have filled your infirmary (hopefully with T1s), 100% of your wounded troops will go into Deep Healing and count as "died".

[sage spear]

30% (minus Miraculous Healing in research and nova) will Die in turret and hub attacks.

[dire tartan]

Thanks everyone. Appreciate it.

[river cape]

Turret fire on the hub doesn’t count towards fast comeback.

[dire tartan]

Meaning those troops died in turret?

[fresh prairie]

When the turret shoots rockets at the hub. They die

[vapid spade]

Do coffers carry over when you loose your hub? And who can then hand those out? As there is no gov.

[sage spear]

They do carry over. Only the gov and aide can hand them out, so you would have to wait until next time you secure your hub

[vapid spade]

Or hand them out during wk i suppose? To stop the bleeding

[sage spear]

You wont have a gov during WK.

[wild zodiac]

If alliance aaa is in our hub and alliance bbb takes another states hub do we still get the shield or do the two hubs have to be occupied by the same alliance?

[dusky elm]

Assuming both alliances AAA and BBB are from the same home state, the home state will get the shield

[upbeat gust]

Am I right in thinking there's a bit of a quirk in the points system if you're in Bronze grade? If you secure your hub and take another, you get 500 points. If you lose your hub and take another, you get 750 points. Seems a bit back to front to me 🤣 Unless I'm interpreting the points info incorrectly...

[wild zodiac]

Thank you 👍🏼

[river haven]

They can’t be in all three or shield drops. If they are in urs, theirs is shielded. No one can get in it. If ur asking if u can have different alliances from same state- absolutely

[river haven]

You would get 350 for ur hub and 500 for theirs. If u lose urs and take theirs ud get 250 losing urs and 500 winning theirs. So 850 vs 750

[upbeat gust]

That would make more sense, but my interpretation was that the points in the top table are independent and not addictive (from several posts I've found in here). E.g. if you're in gold and you hold your hub and take one, my understanding was that you get 500 points and not 500 - 100 = 400

[river haven]

Well, you definitely wouldn’t get 500-100 because the -100 is if you don’t occupy anything

[upbeat gust]

But isn't that where the 350 comes from in your Bronze example above?

[river haven]

Top and bottom charts combine according to circumstances. Top chart is just the top chart it. Bottom is separate. The 350 came from you, not occupying your hub.

[upbeat gust]

You mentioned 350 for securing own hub + 500 for taking theirs

[river haven]

Hold on multi tasking lol. Let me actually look at the chart before I start speaking random numbers.

[upbeat gust]

No worries, I was just curious 🤣 we're not even in bronze but I was just looking at possible scenarios

[river haven]

OK yeah if you don’t occupy anything foreign ud get 350.

If you occupy one foreign, you get 500.

Bottom chart is home hub if invaders occupy

So I don’t know what the hell I was saying earlier

[upbeat gust]

But bottom is addictive right? So if someone takes your hub but you take someone else's, you get 250 for one being taken and 500 for taking one? These charts really aren't very easy to read 🤣

So net 750 if I'm reading it right...

[river haven]

Yes. So 750.

Go figure it’s pns lol

[upbeat gust]

Cool, I'm not going mad then. Thanks 😂

[river haven]

Apparently my maths as bad as theirs 😅

Nope lol. Think ur good.

[idle wadi]

Just wasted years of troops

Im going to quit the game

[cursive valve]

I'm confused are you sitting in the mud? Hqs can't be attacked if on the green.

[acoustic tulip]

Looks like they are both from same state.. 😱

[versed hedge]

Im sorry that happend to you, but we can not verify what happend, what was in the past and why he did so. To rebuild troops you will for sure find a lot people to give you some hints and it may get faster then you expect 🙂 but please dont call people to hunt someone in this chatrooms 🙂 thank you 😊🌼

[cursive valve]

Ah, that sucks big time, and especially when defending the state. I can see the date, time stamp on it.
And as a reminder, get your troops out of the alliance Infirmary before going back to your home alliance. Sometimes it's easy to forget because you just want to get back home.

[idle wadi]

No it was same state hit I was not in the mud and he waited for me to drop my bubble to fill up hub to take my super weapon

Even though there is a state wide nap not to hit for super weapons during wk

I’ll just buy an account that can zero him

[versed hedge]

You should re think about posting that here since to buy or selling accounts is against rules of the game 👀

[topaz sigil]

So I just lost weeks worth of army building when my shield dropped

To maximize points and healing speed in future WK is it better to suicide your top troops on turrets or the hub? Or should I build an army of T1 taxis and suicide those?

My main troops are T8 fighters. My weaker T7 riders and shooters got sent to deep healing. If I’m a fighter main should I even bother training up anything besides fighters and vehicles for gathering?

[cursive valve]

A LOT of t1 anything is useful as a shield for your main.

[topaz sigil]

When getting attacked?

What’s a good amount. I had 100K taxis doesn’t seem like they did much

[fresh prairie]

I have 1million

[mint fulcrum]

I have 3 mil

They work nicely

Gives you time to port away if someone is a lot stronger than you

[livid gazelle]

I have 1.2m t1 and over 1m t11. They definitely spread the wounded out

Trucks are a great defense

[topaz sigil]

Ok cool

I literally lost all my vehicles from one attack. Shield dropped for less than 15 seconds

[mint fulcrum]

Yeah, people gun for shields dropping in mud

[cursive valve]

One caution though, T1s are great in HQ attacks in Nuka and Reservoir War, because you get all troops back at event end. For Wasteland or other in-state attacks that fill your infirmary, the infirmary will also fill proportionally with T1s, so you have a risk of losing higher level troops permanently if your infirmary fills up.

[topaz sigil]

Yeah makes sense

Attacking turrets or hubs give the same points right?

[mint fulcrum]

Correct

If you hold hub and a turret fires on you, you don’t get fast comeback points from their deaths

[quiet cave]

My hospital was empty before WK started and I’ve been healing all day . I lost more than a full march. Over 270k troops and 3 million comeback??

[fresh prairie]

The units in your hospital don't count towards fastcome back. Only those that die / or go deep healing

[quiet cave]

Really they have to go in deep healing to count? I don’t think it matters

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. Deep healing counts. And deaths.

Not infirmary

[dense epoch]

Hello. Is anyone else that have an issue with fast comeback? I don’t have any fast comeback 😔

[fresh prairie]

How did your units die? Did they just go to infirmary? Tile hits?

[cinder patrol]

Only deaths from attacks on the hub and turrets count for fast comeback

Turret fire and tile hits don’t count

[fresh prairie]

Yup

[dense epoch]

I had regular infirmary full with taxi before wk started. All my troops goes in deep healing

[fresh prairie]

But if wasn't turret or hub hits. Then doesn't count.

[dense epoch]

It was turret

[willow verge]

Was Fast Comeback activated for your state yet?

[dense epoch]

Yes

[willow verge]

Weird. Think you'll need to contact CS then.

[dense epoch]

Thank you. I did contact CS already, I’m waiting for them to answer. I just wandering is just me or someone else have same issue.

[willow verge]

Anyone else in your Alliance or State have that issue?

I only killed off one march and got the expected amount of Fast Comeback. Same with my farm.

[grand zealot]

Here is my question. Sat in the hub today alongside others for the full 8 hours. Got attacked by multiple marches, mixed level… but say for argument sake t9. 10k kills but no points on the rewards. Anyone got any ideas as to why?? Will post some screen captures from the many battle reports below.

Dionysus is me in those reports.

[mint fulcrum]

Nothing really died of yours

Don’t know the damage you did to attacker

[grand zealot]

Not talking about my deaths. It’s reporting 10k kills.

I got points for losing units.

[mint fulcrum]

Maybe you didn’t kill anything, whereas the t11 did the killing

[grand zealot]

In the middle screenshot, 10618 kills.

In the bottom, 0 kill points.

[mint fulcrum]

Middle I see you had 302 die

[grand zealot]

And? Not talking about my deaths here.

[mint fulcrum]

Not seeing 10,618

[grand zealot]

“Enemies killed: 10,618” it’s pretty clear.

Unless it’s just bollocks.

[mint fulcrum]

Ohhh I see why

In state

Deaths only count for in state is what I’ve been told

[grand zealot]

So in state attacks count for losses but not for kills? I kinda see what you are saying but that is utter rubbish. So it means in Valiant where same state battles mean you do actually lose troops, in WK you gain nothing. Except the losses. This game is very odd in lots of ways!

Thanks for responding though.

[mint fulcrum]

No worries at all. I agree that it has some weird mechanics to it. Also what makes it interesting in trying to figure out how it ticks, per say.

[grand zealot]

Oh definitely. I like to understand things!

[wanton shoal]

Do we still get the 300 boost if the hub occupied by other state? Or its up to the foreign conqueror?

[mint fulcrum]

Yes it will auto activate

[wanton shoal]

Thank you

[frail igloo]

How is Highest might player in state determined? Including or excluding troop boosts? If you lose your hub.

[livid gazelle]

Used to be highest total might. I do not know if that has changed now that they're documenting might without troops as well

[signal crag]

How come there is a fee of 500 diamond going into WLK state.

[river cape]

? I’ve never seen that. As far as I know wk and VC relocation is free. As for tile hitting, you can only tile hit in the gray, which I’m sure you know.

[willow verge]

I've noticed that it's been 500 diamonds for awhile. Dunno if it was free previously or not

[river cape]

You can tell how often I do it, lol.

[fresh prairie]

Yeah Wk going to another state has always been 500 diamonds. Coming back free

[normal summit]

Hey if i went and attacked another state and had some of my troops killed. Are they dead for good or do they come back after WK?

[mint fulcrum]

Troops stay dead in wk

[sage spear]

Dead until your train new ones

[mint fulcrum]

You get to build them back with fast come back if they died on turret or hub.

[normal summit]

What do you mean fast come back and what if attacking lairs or tiles?

[mint fulcrum]

No fast comeback for tiles. Get zero points for lairs

[willow verge]

If you attack out of state hub or turret, any dead troops will count towards a 300% training increase. Many players use this to train a gazillion troops for Ace.

[normal summit]

Are there any other boxes i can buy too

[mint fulcrum]

No nap talks here #📚sanctuary-rules

[lapis sedge]

Then where can you add states so everyone knows who can’t be trusted

[mint fulcrum]

Other servers

All hear say

Rules of the server. Becomes back and forth on some of the talks for it. Hence they have rule 6

[lapis sedge]

So the server that this directly pertains too you can’t talk about here makes perfect since

[mint fulcrum]

Nope, different country have different laws. People start posting stuff and bullying others over real game stuff and mods are left to clean up messes. Makes perfect sense.

[weary loom]

Everyone can come here and claim this and that. We can't know for certain though, so none of that here please ❤️

[lapis sedge]

Okay well an fyi take the information if you want I guess it’s hear say

[cinder patrol]

The server isn't about arguing about or criticizing gameplay styles. It's to get help and talk to people. That's why it's not allowed.

[sharp plover]

To checkboard the mud or cram it full? Which is the most effective?

[mint fulcrum]

Less bases to have enough space inbetween that a base can’t fit. Just remember anyone that could easily sit in your mud can spend the diamonds from the grass to hit your turrets and hub

[sharp plover]

So you’re pro checkerboard? I am in a vicious debate over this with our current gov. lol

[livid gazelle]

We don't even put anything in the mud.

[cinder patrol]

We do the checkerboard. One tile width between. It never goes perfectly but we get close. And while yes people can speed up, that takes time and precious seconds that can still be used by us to our advantage. We have been saved several times by the fact that we cover our mud and the grass.

[sharp plover]

That’s what I’m saying. Less bases in the mud, means more for the grass.

[livid gazelle]

Just remember to remind everyone to check their shields frequently. There are some people who like to take advantage of smacking unshielded bases in the mud

And don't forget the ones that aren't using their marches can also send out camps to block grass

[sharp plover]

He says it’s easier to spot a hole if it is crammed full. But it’s not. Our brains are literally wired to recognize patterns and inconsistencies in them. It’s one of the first skills our brains develop.

[livid gazelle]

We've never had enough people to actually cover our mud for Wasteland. But the few times that we've actually taken other states it was difficult to get close to anything until later in the day when shield started popping in the other states

[cinder patrol]

We cover the grass with camps. We have everyone start to move early, like Thursday, and then plug any holes with at least one camp, (as long as it’s properly placed, it should only take one in most cases). We have a lot of practice and we have someone who sends out coordinates for the mud on where to go, so it works well.

[mint fulcrum]

I’m anti mud. It’s a waste and people forget to shield. It’s a phalanx. One doesn’t shield, have huge hole for 40s

[sharp plover]

But more bases equal more room for error.

[mint fulcrum]

No bases equals no error

Can also fill first few rows and leave near grass empty. Gives you chance to clear if necessary

Many strategies and I know some use it as an alternative means of nap.

[topaz sigil]

Your troops only die when there’s no space in the infirmary right?

Even with all the rewards and training boosts it wasn’t worth it to decimate my whole army. Must be doing something wrong

[fresh prairie]

Not only die when infirmary is full. They can die on hits too.

Like here. My infirmary was not full. But killed 55k

[exotic totem]

I got deaths with empty infirmary. Nothing in deep heal though - wasn't enough attacks on turret I was in🙃

[zenith notch]

I helped this player get 36k

[fresh prairie]

🥺

[zenith notch]

Players were porting into the mud asking for hq hits

[topaz sigil]

What determines how many die?

[livid gazelle]

That is going to be decided by how strong the person who hits you is. I know when we were getting hit in the turret that I was in some hits would be zero wounded or dead for us and it would be a complete wipe for the other player.

[willow verge]

If your march is eaten, I believe it's 30% minus whatever buffs you have active (like miraculous recovery and First Aid). Of course if your infirmaries, deep healing, and alliance infirmary are full, then they all die. 🙂

[cinder patrol]

Was this yesterday 😂

[ornate cobalt]

Noob question😅:
superweapons can be used during Wasteland King in a turret or to defend the Hub?

[mint fulcrum]

Yes, rail gun and whip are good to assist for wk

[ornate cobalt]

Thx

[white totem]

Infirmaries are also a factor. If your infirmaries are already packed with casualties, along with deep healing and alliance infirmary and you take a hit, those troops will automatically die.

[plush gorge]

Can a colonizing state migrate to the state they occupied after wk freely (like in valiant)

[sage spear]

Nope

[vocal quest]

Nic po polsku

Jak mi powiesz że mam coś zainstalować to się wkurwię

[fading prairie]

Go to #🔠language-select and select the polish option and it’ll give you access to the polish channel

Wejdź na #🔠language-select i wybierz opcję polish, a da ci to dostęp do polskiego kanału.

[river haven]

You still lose 30%

If u want it cheaper fill hospital with t1. Then 100% goes to deep healing and count as death

[topaz sigil]

You mean alliance infirmary or both?

[river haven]

Not alliance hospital. Just your personal hospital. The order the hospitals fill is personal, deep, alliance.

[mint vector]

If someone wants to take the building they will use diamonds no matter how far are they, so the mud is not much helpfull and very risky for small players filling the mud

[cinder patrol]

No. There are no special privileges or benefits. The only thing you get for occupying another state is the tax from their resource transfers and any sanctuary attacks they might do.

[mint fulcrum]

Also since the introduction of Nataly Frags, you get their boxes to distribute to your state.

[turbid valve]

Didnt you get boxes from another state before they introduced the frags?

[sage spear]

Yes, but the frags are the most valuable item in the boxes for most people

[turbid valve]

True

It read as if we only started getting the boxes from another state when they introduced the frags, that's why I asked

[scarlet forum]

Does anyone know if the kill and casualty point rules for Wasteland are the same for a Zenith War?

[fleet mesa]

I've actually got a conspiracy theory that taxes that go to coffers, are really based on gathered resources. You see a huge jump in tax income on gather day, and there have been times in the past where a player quit and opened their bag for us to plunder, and that plunder did not seem to be reflected in taxes at all.

[weary loom]

Is that an conspiracy? I thought that that's exactly how it works

I might been told wrong things though...

[hallow crown]

But you get coffers from the state you conquer, not your own, plundering someone in your own state won't fill your coffers

[mint fulcrum]

Might be a coincidence like how crime rates go up when more ice cream is sold.

[versed hedge]

Usually after gathering day follows building/research/troops day... so people starts transporting rss from one to another on gathering day to be prepared for next day 😉

[weary loom]

Uhm, they are corelated, just love global warming going up and the amount of pirates decreasing. RIP pirates 😭

[mint fulcrum]

As temperatures go up more crimes are committed. Also as temperatures go up, there are more ice cream sales. Ice cream is not driving more crime.

[versed hedge]

Now i want some ice cream

[mint fulcrum]

#🎯off-topic-chat what kind?

[weary loom]

I want more pirates

[mint fulcrum]

So you want another Disney park? 😂

[livid gazelle]

#🎯off-topic-chat y'all

[fleet mesa]

Right, but at the time, we were a conquered state. 🙂

[hallow crown]

So you checked with the conquering state and they didn't get the coffers?

[fleet mesa]

Yeah! It was weird. Like a friend plundered over 200m wood from a player that quit, plus other resources, and the "right amount" didn't show up in the other states coffers. The right amount would have been about 70m, assuming the usual 30% tax on attacks, but only a couple million showed up in the other states coffers.

[hallow crown]

That's odd, maybe only transfer taxes go to coffers then

[fleet mesa]

Maybe one day I'll fly to a dead state for a couple months, knock out some governor achievements, and test taxes 😂

It's hard to do testing any other way on this topic.

[hallow crown]

That's true

[sage spear]

Taxes. Seems pretty clear to me.

[river haven]

That’s NOT the only taxes….. that’s literally just transport taxes. There’s also taxes from attacking hq.

Which is where the debate on what taxes go to other states comes from

[lapis cosmos]

It's a 30 percent tax from hitting hqs

[livid gazelle]

You can just gather more at once if you send the right kind of troops

[river haven]

??? Lol. Say what?

They debate is about coffers…. Not the amount of the attack tax or the quantity that u can carry.

[livid gazelle]

All of those taxes that go nowhere if you have control of your own state are what go to the coffers of the other state if they colonized you. People were positing that there may be other factors at play for those coffers as well

And the amount that you can carry means that you're going to get charged less in taxes if you don't have to hit multiple times to steal from a base

[sage spear]

Those are not posted in the game anywhere. There is a loss of rss, but not actually described as a tax.

But someone was saying that gathering resulted in coffers. Which isnt accurate

[river haven]

Im aware of the taxes. I was just saying the comment that taxes seem clear and then posting the transport tax page is only a portion of the taxes. That’s all I was pointing out

Before they started putting rss on defense logs people didn’t even realize attacking was taxed.

And granted it says those words nowhere in the game but does that really surprise you in a game that we can’t even get a clear answer on whether or not we leave our alliance we get disqualified? Lol. If u don’t call it a tax what would u call it? Theft? 😋 same same

[sage spear]

I’d call it colateral damage. Like breaking into a jewelry store and dropping some of the diamonds on the way out 🤣

[river haven]

🤣. I’d say it’s more like paying a pimp….

[sage spear]

Lol. Either way, someone is taking some of the stuff you worked hard for 🤣🤣

[river haven]

That part 😅

[mint fulcrum]

Taxation is theft…

[weary loom]

No politics in here please 🤣

[mint fulcrum]

How’s that politics? Talking about game taxes.

Why’s a game got to pull taxes?

[livid gazelle]

Do you need the timeout corner?

[mint fulcrum]

Probably

[livid gazelle]

That was definitely an honest answer

[river cape]

@livid gazelle since only mods CS delete other players messages.

[livid gazelle]

I left one of them up

[analog laurel]

If we have not been colonized during the previous WK, Can the state bulletin be changed during the next WK?

[mint fulcrum]

No governor during wk. so no

[empty hemlock]

Im curious on what everyone likes to see for NAPs in wk?

[livid gazelle]

Depends. We had one recently that I liked except a big guy kind of abused it a little. Full march no heroes t10 and lower, t11/t12 no heroes only up to 300k. No rallies no hit on hubs

[sage spear]

I hate march limits. Just wastes fast marches and takes longer for both sides to get their points.

I usually try to hit buildings with my full marches and heroes before anyone has negotiated a NAP. LOL

[mint fulcrum]

No rallies usually helps to curtail damage and no march limits needed. Can also put catch and release on turrets if you’re scared a scary player may take over your turret.

[livid gazelle]

Some states can't take a full march of T12

[sage spear]

That sounds like states that don’t deserve to keep their buildings 😈

[mint fulcrum]

Catch and release helps 🤷

[livid gazelle]

I'm okay with catch and release.

I just want to run into hillside at some point so we can play with fire

[fleet mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/malinda-yourenotwrong-notwrong-wrong-right-gif-19187634

[empty hemlock]

Lol thanks

[river haven]

Ya I’ve only had one issue with nap in regards to being costly and ironically the nap was low- 100k t10-12 no heroes. 150k t9 etc. Somehow that ended up costing us more than when we take other peoples hubs 🤣. We ended up with like 400 battle logs in very short time. But aside from that, I agree with what the last people said -March limits suck. Only thing I would limit is T 12s and I would only limit that for sake of I’m cheap. Give them a tower or two to hit, but not free for all that way you can regulate a little better.

[fresh prairie]

I dislike naps that have limits. When I ask for nap. Everything goes except keeping turrets and hitting hub

[river haven]

Ya it’s a pain. Ends up making an all day affair out of trying to get points. It’s terrible.

[fresh prairie]

We get points for kills. Not just killing our units lol

[river haven]

If you have an even halfway worthy state I don’t see any reason why you need limits

Mine was borderline worthy that week lol. But at the end of the day it was still cheaper than most my wlk by millions.

[rugged tartan]

If you are not bubbled and in the grass during Wk can you be attacked by the invading state.

[mint fulcrum]

If any part of your sanc touches the mud, then yes. In grass no. Fun caveat, if you’re in another state, you can’t attack anyone from your own state

[rugged tartan]

Thanks. That is funny!

[mint fulcrum]

We had a state that wanted us to take them. We didn’t want to. They started creating accounts in our state and trying to take their own hub with them. Found out you can’t burn them.

[sage spear]

You should have returned the favour and made accounts in their state and taken their hub with those accounts. I’ve watched those battles before. 🤣

[mint fulcrum]

No comment…

Learned through observation that you create it in the third state and take the hub

Also, those promo codes are handy for new accounts…

[gaunt ledge]

Possibly dumb question about Zenith; I thought for sure I could score zenith (someday wasteland?) points by sending t1s to die. Or is it just for wasteland? Or a I making it up altogether lol

[fresh prairie]

Wasteland wars. For turret and hub deaths.

[river cape]

They don't give many point for you, and none at all for those you are you are hitting during wasteland.

[lapis cosmos]

I like to go out and kill t1s till I got 3m fast comeback😂

[fresh prairie]

Sounds like your killing all day lol

[lapis cosmos]

Actually no

Takes about 10 minutes just chucking them. 318400 march so doing this for 10 minutes gives a good enough chunk

I have alot of fast marches as well

[river haven]

I might suggest filling your hospitals with T1 and then any troop after that will go to deep healing and count as dead. It’s significantly the fastest route. And the cheapest.

[river haven]

This is when its best to send a mystery account to take the hub forcing them to kick it out or forfeit governor to the random no name holding hub with cars 😎

Or so I’ve heard

[gaunt ledge]

You guys are brilliant; thank you all!

[sharp harness]

Hey guys! I have been under the impression that turrets do a fixed amount of dmg (1%) to the hub. I am hearing that it can be impacted by what is in the turret? Is that correct?

[sage spear]

It is a fixed amount of 1% per turret

[sharp harness]

Thank you! Thought so

[river haven]

Possibly people are mis speaking and meaning depending on how many troops are in the hub….. because obviously 1% would be of whatever is in there, so the less that is in there the less that damage would be overall ¯_(ツ)_/¯ just a thought 🙂

[remote ridge]

Can you explain this a little bit more? If I understand correctly, you fill hospital with T1 so anyone killed during turret battles will go to deep healing which you don’t touch until fast comeback, correct?

[river haven]

Kinda

You’re close

Basically, you fill your hospital in your sanctuary with T1. You do this because they are super cheap to heal, and so that anything that gets injured or dead after that goes to deep healing, which anything that goes to deep healing is considered a death. Where as things that go to your hospital you only get 30% dead. And a bunch of injuries. if that makes sense

So basically 100% of your injuries you get credit for death

The con to this is that deep healing you can’t heal quickly. Unless you want to spend a ridiculous amount of diamonds. So those troops will be there for quite a while. Probably almost until next wasteland if I had to guess.

The t1 you can heal for pennies on the dollar, and it only cost food as far as resources go. Your deep healing speed revolves around the troops in your hospital so you would want to heal the t1 as soon as you can once you get your points

[mint fulcrum]

Can get about 70k t10 troops back a week in deep heal. Diamonds are great to use on valiant weekend for diamond event.

Also, deep healing doesn’t cost resources

[river haven]

So those you’d want to heal pretty much immediately. The come back is irrelevant to any of this process as far as timing goes. You will be getting credit for all of the might of the dead troops, so once come back comes on you would want to start training.

[river haven]

I live dead so I’ve never paid attention lol. Good to know. So that would probably take you more like four weeks or more to get your troops back unless you pay diamonds. But the no resources thing is huge and if you have enough troops, you don’t even notice they’re there.

[remote ridge]

This is very helpful. Thanks!

[river haven]

No problem 🙂

[mint fulcrum]

The nice thing is you get to make troops that count in your deep heal, then heal those and you basically double that might “lost”

[river haven]

just make sure there’s no pirates in town lol. Last time I did this I got zeroed right after ended up with nothing but t1 cars alive. 😭

[remote ridge]

😱

[river haven]

It’s seriously taken me like eight months to get over the PTSD to start doing it again 😅

But it does make a huge difference

[mint fulcrum]

Thinned the heard and can shape your troops to way you really want 😬

Ooo, Good shield for that is do it in another state. They can hit you in another state.

[river haven]

Well…. You see this was the good old days before you got a report saying they were coming. Or skill to keep from instantly hitting people And he wasn’t very big. He was only at 31 when he got there and he went from 31 to 35 overnight and he killed us the second we sent our troops to the towers. And then joined our alliance to help us take the other states hub 😑

I actually had three accounts zeroed at the same time

It was a real bad day

[mint fulcrum]

Believable. Still here and ready to kick butt tho

[river haven]

Absolutely lol. I’m running out of new ways to die tho

I’m gonna have to start getting creative

[mint fulcrum]

Put a small in mud and rein it

[river haven]

I do that all the time

Lmao

In fact, I love doing that because I get points and relief goods

[remote ridge]

That’s such a good tip

[teal imp]

Is there an easy way to get points while I'm falling asleep in the hub (assuming we'll have NAP in place with no hub hits)?

[hallow crown]

Coordinate with someone from out of your state to trade some tile hits

[river cape]

Before I left my old state they were talking about rotating in the hub in two hour shifts so hub holders could go out and have some fun too. And gain points.

[teal imp]

Thanks! Will try this but we have people sitting in the mud so that makes this a little difficult.

[teal imp]

I will most likely ask to rotate out, but was hoping to get some freeish kill points in a tower so I don't have to kill off as many troops

[hallow crown]

But tiles still spam between sancs

[teal imp]

Ahh, yeah you're right - I'll chalk that up to early morning brain fog on my part. Will definitely give this a go, thanks again!

[river cape]

That works too, lol, esp if the tower really busy

[river haven]

I’ve had a few states that had one alliance put t1 in hub and then 4 other alliances each controlled their own tower. And other state hit towers. Hub people will be getting hit by turrets obviously but that’s why the t1…..

This rotated

[torpid robin]

Kinda nervous about this WK. I feel pretty underprepared to help my state :/

[grave dagger]

Think that’s a fairly common feeling this go round. Lol

[torpid robin]

I have t9's but only about 300k fighters. 600k troops over all. Its our states first WK so idk if it'll be relatively good matchmaking

[grave dagger]

Unfortunately you never can tell what the matchup will look like. Even knowing the tier can only help so much.

[torpid robin]

:/ yikes. Like I wanna help but I'm fresh meat lol. Only been playing 3 months

[grave dagger]

So if it’s your states first you should be ok. If I remember correctly. It’s been awhile…

[torpid robin]

Gotcha. We have some pretty good players and they know how to negotiate. Maybe they'll get a nap going idk

[grave dagger]

That is usually the case

[river haven]

You will be fine. It’s based on points and if it’s ur states first real wlk u don’t have many points. I guess you could get unlucky and have some super group that was made in a new state 😂😂😂 that’d be funny. Anyways let me just tell you the best advice you’ll ever get in this game——- fk wlk

Ok less smart ass advice- losing wlk is no big deal. You wouldn’t even notice except people like to be dramatic about it. Don’t lose any sleep over it that’s for sure….. unfortunately this event will happen every two weeks for eternity so there will be plenty of time to make up for it. Also- this game has like 20 people total with everyone having like 90 million accounts each and I personally guarantee you your states no exception. Someone there will know what to do and will get it done. Just hang out. Meet new people. And for god sake have fun. Oh- and stay off the mud. Other than that you can’t really mess up. Good luck

[brave stratus]

Do we not get kills any more from defending turrets? I still have zero kills even though a lot have attacked.

[fresh prairie]

Make sure they aren't sending t1

[brave stratus]

A lot are t9 / t10

[fresh prairie]

You can open battle report. And find your name and see how many you killed and compare it to what points you have.

[lavish oxide]

When turret lead does super rein, does game show this information to others in turret? I not be able to find it in any boost screen I check

[willow verge]

Yes. You can tap on the normal Battle Details icon to get a breakdown.

[sage spear]

You also don’t get kills from in state attacks

[brave stratus]

Ok. Thanks. That’s it.

[lavish oxide]

Hmm. Not seeing this, I just see troop size. Or do you mean in battle report?

[sage spear]

Yes, it annoys me when players are too lazy to go to another state and attack. Everyone gets better points and rewards that way.

[brave stratus]

My previous state was better on this. No wonder I didn’t realize before.

[willow verge]

Yeah, battle report.

You also get a System Message saying that Super Reinforncement was activated.

[nimble anvil]

603 just got matched against 171 this wlk. They only have players t11 and above and have already taken all our towers. How is that even possible?

[mint fulcrum]

What grade are you in?

This pin explains grades #👑wasteland-king message

[nimble anvil]

Silver

[thin crystal]

That is actually possible. This WK our state (i can say quite old state) meet with 519, and other two young states. Yes, its 4-way WK this week. It depends on your grade not the might of the state or the age of the state

[mint fulcrum]

Some states are older and don’t win. They stay in a lower tier.

[lapis cosmos]

Those 4 ways are quite interesting lol

[mint fulcrum]

Haven’t seen one of those in a long time

[nimble anvil]

So.. for us to drop down if we wanted to, we would have to lose wlk?

[mint fulcrum]

Yes

Recommend just growing and learning strategy

Win some and loose some

[thin crystal]

Been there done that. This is my second 4-ways-WK

[mint fulcrum]

Have to calculate the points off the table I posted. Sometimes loosing once isn’t enough

[nimble anvil]

My state is making it sound like it's the end of the world losing wlk and asking all alliances to attack t11 and t10

By reference we only have a few t11 players in state

But what you are saying is that the more we win in wlk, the harder the pairings will be?

[mint fulcrum]

Naw. Not at all

[thin crystal]

Nah, losing state is normal. You only lose state boost and boxes. And oh well, you need to pay coffers. Not a big deal

[mint fulcrum]

Nice thing is the fast comeback gets auto activated

[sage spear]

Losing just means you don’t get the small state boosts or boxes (which in silver arent great anyway) for 2 weeks

[nimble anvil]

Who becomes governor?

[lapis cosmos]

I've been in 1 and it was super boring lol

[mint fulcrum]

So some states are “dead” and only have some bigger players in them. They stay in smaller tiers. As you grow, youll get more comfortable

[sage spear]

And coffers are paid anyway, just usually to empty space instead

[sage spear]

No one

[mint fulcrum]

No one. Largest might controls door

Coffers are just taxes from transportation. You’ll never notice

[nimble anvil]

Is it worth killing our units over?

[mint fulcrum]

Wk is a great spot to grow troops

[mint fulcrum]

Yes

The fast comeback is great

[nimble anvil]

For the faster comeback Right?

[sage spear]

Usually not. At least not any more than you planned to kill off if you were winning

[thin crystal]

Indeed. I remember years ago when we lost state for the 1st time. There are rules we cant burn sanctuaries and or transport rss. Ah good old days

[nimble anvil]

Good thing alliance showdown is almost over

[lapis cosmos]

I'm the petty person to if our state is ever taken I boycott transporting😂

[nimble anvil]

I thought about that immediately

[thin crystal]

Today is quite interesting and also bcs none can leave alliance since its reservoir tournament. Quite messy plan for WK haha

[mint fulcrum]

I conduct business as usual

[mint fulcrum]

Attack and defense teams help

[sage spear]

Glad the state we took last WK didn’t feel that way. Fluffed up our coffers nicely 😈😈

[lapis cosmos]

It's not the end of the world losing wasteland there's gonna be some days you'll win there will be days your up a full 24 hours fighting for your dang hub and there will be days you lose

[lapis cosmos]

Only thing I really transport in masses is gas and steel that's why I boycotted it last time our state was taken🤣 which was ages ago

[fleet mesa]

Reservoir tournament really messed up our state WK structure in a bad way :/ not too happy about it

[river cape]

My general rule of thumb is not lose any more than I can afford to lose. It doesn't always work out this way, but it usually seems to work out.

[lapis cosmos]

That's currently why I'm by myself throwing t1s for fast comeback in a foreign state

[thin crystal]

We usually did that. But none leave alliance for atk team. Usually my alliance being the atk team and now being defense

Oh geez, reservoir tournament messed up the WK plan and seems like peeps already forget that in 26days we will have WC 😂

[mint fulcrum]

Good way to build troops is fill your infirmary with t1 troops. Then kill a some so they go to deep heal. All that go to deep heal count as dead. Nice thing is you basically get double the might back on troops in deep heal by “replacing” them with new troops. Then you get their might back as you heal them out of deep heal (takes a while)

[mint fulcrum]

T1 the hub and get it shielded. Should be good

[thin crystal]

Ya and peeps back to sleep 😂

[lapis cosmos]

Yeah this res tournament got everything messy

[thin crystal]

But i love the water bottles! Seems like everyone most likely get levina maxed in no time! And there will be complaint again lol

[lapis cosmos]

I have yet to get her up in size due to the sheer mass of nano tubes I need for just normal res/clash lol I am not participating in the tournament so I can wiggle a bit

[thin crystal]

Sounds like a plan! When everyone busy for reservoir tournament you can focus on normal clash or reswar!

[fleet mesa]

T1s? I sent 11s 😂 quick and easy and get more kill points that way

[lapis cosmos]

Oh you haven't heard the story... so somewhere in the process of going from hq31 to hq35 I got 1m useless t1 fighters. So every wasteland I've been killing them off slowly. In 6 weeks I'm now officially down to 280k I'm still throwing though

So perfect cushion to get some fast comeback and kill em off lol

[sage spear]

I do that with my t9 fighters 🤣

[mint fulcrum]

Y’all and your speed bumps

[lapis cosmos]

I just don't know where they came from like excuse me 🤣 I'm a shooter and got way too many fighters up in here lol

[thin crystal]

All my fighters are lazying around in noah tavern. They are pretty much useless 😂

[lapis cosmos]

That's why I am killing mine lol

[fleet mesa]

Oh. I just have a lot of random T1s lying around 😂

[lapis cosmos]

I only want t1 cars lying around and 2 loaf if t1 pewers

[keen shoal]

Hey mods,
I can’t remember..😂 when losing a state is last gov able to still pass out titles?

[plain tapir]

Nope

Titles aren’t passed, no boxes and only the fast comeback boost

[keen shoal]

Ok that’s what I thought

Thanks 😬

[plain tapir]

Yea one of our bigs lost 32million then says I may have messed up big time.

“If our state gets taken do we still get fast comeback?”

[keen shoal]

Oh man

Does gov go the the strongest in state or to the last person that was gov?

👀

[lapis cosmos]

There will be no gov if state is taken

[livid gazelle]

If you lose your state no one is governor but the strongest might in the state can control the headquarter limit or approve immigration applications. If you're in an older state and headquarter limits already at 40 that won't be adjustable

[keen shoal]

Been a while since my state has been taken 😂😅

[keen shoal]

Thank you !!

[white totem]

This shit is unbelievable

603 going against 171

Took both states 603 and 601

Bullies

[fading prairie]

…but that’s the purpose of the event, Is it not? Trying to get Hubs and better rewards for your state?

If they have the capabilities to do so, I don’t see why not. If they had agreed to a NAP and broke it, I would find it more questionable.

But in the end, it’s a state doing the event.

[lapis cosmos]

Taking other states isnt being a bully

You are a newish state youll learn this is a part of the wasteland cycle. You win some ya lose some

[mint fulcrum]

Be thankful you won’t see them again

[lapis cosmos]

Unless they strengthen up and get stronger and wind up in the same bracket again

[wanton shoal]

Make it a state tournament, so you should be safe on both

[wanton shoal]

Agree... I hate troop limit, Or hero, equipment,etc.

Just no rally on attacking would be enough for nap agreement.

[lapis cosmos]

I mean some are strong enough to whipe out turrets so I can see there being some limit on bigger troops lol

[strange totem]

Is everyone marked safe from losing their hub

[lapis cosmos]

My states was secured right on schedule

[livid gazelle]

We kept ours

And NAP had no troop limit. Only restrictions were no heroes and no hits on the hub

[thin crystal]

If taking states is booli. How about the pirates

[river haven]

We took both. Cuz we could. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[acoustic tulip]

I like this answer 🤭

[river haven]

I seriously have a very small state and we have some good players, but we are not even on the map in regards to strength but we killing it in wlk. It almost makes that horrendous event fun.

Plus legend pays so much better

[acoustic tulip]

Oh, which state is that?

[river haven]

381

[acoustic tulip]

Colonize more, then be in Legendary?

[river haven]

We are in legendary quite frequently

Will be again this time I assume

The new point system makes it very hard to guess that, though

[fresh prairie]

My state. Just naps every week. Boring

[river haven]

Eeeeew. Been there done that. That’s how this one used to be. Luckily we managed to get rid of most of those people. Everyone here now loves to fight. And we’ve been doing it together for a long time so we have pretty good success even with our size.

We also are anti-pointless deaths so if we are out of our league, no one’s losing sleep over it.

[fresh prairie]

We don't even try. I want to fight lol

[river haven]

Come visit!!! Even fight my farms lol

All 20 of them 🤣🤣🤣

Jk. There’s only 7

[fresh prairie]

Lol

Too expensive to move

[acoustic tulip]

I find it funny that when people get colonize in Legendary they make so much fuss in battle chat. But the reason you are in Legendary and able to meet 335 is because you must have previously colonized other states, this assumption is correct right?

[fresh prairie]

When your in legend. You face other states who have earned the right for legend. So no complaining allowed

[river haven]

The only justification for complaining I can think of is the huge swings in points causing for people to end up legendary simply because there was 150 states that napped or left hubs open and tanked their scores. Outside of this rare circumstance that is no longer possible- it’s pitiful to complain. Current rules you cannot become legend without colonizing. Period. You lose points even by holding your own hub. Only way to gain points is by taking other peoples. However, the first time we made legendary, we got there simply by holding our own, and everyone else dropped.

[atomic mural]

It doesn't matter how small your state is if you have 2 or 3 powerful players that's all you need. The rest are just there for reinforcing.

[river haven]

It matters because if you only have two or three powerful players not only did they get burn out, but the rest of the state gets burnt out because 100% of us are doing 100% of the work all the time and we do a whole lot of dying and not a whole lot of growing

People have real lives outside of game. Small states don’t allow for that very much.

[atomic mural]

That's the catch 22 isn't it. Love to fight, don't grow. I love a rumble for WK. Others love to have lots of troops. I'll take fun every second weekend thanks.

[fresh prairie]

I believe you grow faster, the more you fight

[main marten]

Can anyone tell me if "scramble" stats apply to wlk? It says they apply to "zenith war"

[fresh prairie]

Yes. They do

[main marten]

Thanks @fresh prairie you are always so helpful and knowledgeable ❤️

[teal imp]

Do Atropos bonuses apply in tower? Wasn't sure if that qualified as a rally

[unkempt ibex]

no, atropos’ ‘raid’ stats only apply in sanctuary hits, both when attacking and defending

[teal imp]

Thanks!

[river haven]

Fighting and being slaughtered r not the same thing. Fighting every other weekend is great. Being brutalized every other weekend and losing more troops than you could ever do with rss and come back simply so that we can have a couple boosts for the week and the governor that I couldn’t care less about and probably don’t like (although current state, at least I don’t have to worry about liking the governors. They’re all pretty cool) Yeah I’m just not into it. If I’m motivated, I’ll give you two marches of my main type and as many fighters or shooters as you want to kill. If I’m not motivated, you get one march and after that I’m done dying for a pointless cause. You can take my t9 and t10. I guess…. But even that I’m probably logging out after that I really despise the event.

[atomic mural]

You're proud of being a small state and killing it in WK. To which I said you obviously have 2 or 3 super strong 40s. Then you complain you hate WK and don't like losing troops and that ye have WK fatigue. Some people are never happy.

[river haven]

First of all just because I do good at something doesn’t mean I like it. Second of all no one’s complaining I’m responding to your comment. Third just because I don’t like something doesn’t mean I’m going to put the rest of my state or team in a position where they have to handle everything themselves.

[atomic mural]

I refer to might growth. Can be a billion + from troops or 600 to 800m without a lot of them. Can be same base strength.

[atomic mural]

You literally boasted your state is small, as if that has some bearing on how good at playing WK ye are. Rubbish. 1 maxed 40 can carry ye into legendary.

[river haven]

Lol. Some will complain about anything and some will argue anything. You must be the latter. I never said I was good. I said our state did good. I’m well aware of the capabilities of a strong 40. I am also well aware of the capabilities of a good team. Neither of which play any part into whether or not I enjoy the event. Nor does enjoying the event have any effect on whether or not I participate in the event.

[river cape]

Im wit @river haven
Just because you are good at something doesn't mean you enjoy it.
I could enjoy both VC and WK much more if they were a little less frequent.
Im awesome in WK.
I hate VC because we have no choice but to participate, even if it's just shielding.
Between these two events and work, I have no weekend life. Im getting burnt out.

[river haven]

I’m so opposite lol. I’m valuable in wasteland, but that’s about the extent I’ll give myself there. I love valiant, but I get my ass handed to me and I’m lucky if it doesn’t cost me to participate 🤣

[river cape]

Lol. I might enjoy it more if VC was once a month. Something big every weekend kinda tarnished it for me.

[river haven]

That I totally understand and honestly something that I think causes a lot of people to not like it is the fact that it costs you whether you participate or not. Whereas wasteland only cost you if you choose to participate.

[river cape]

Exactly!
1k diamonds still costs.

[river haven]

On my million accounts…. Yeah it’s not cheap for me at all lol. I don’t even shield half of them so I have to go around and transfer resources from everywhere and it’s a stressful day because I get sidetracked and I always forget and it never fails. I’ll get all the accounts that I don’t give a shit about squared away and then I’ll log into the ones that I do and I will have forgotten one and it’s already dead 😤

I’d still take two valiants over wasteland any day tho 😋🤣

[errant stream]

👀

[river haven]

Go away boss 🤣

[errant stream]

But

https://tenor.com/view/pennywise-upset-sad-oops-mistake-gif-10557398

[livid gazelle]

Oh my

[spring geode]

Wasteland King Points Chart

(Updated with more values)

[river haven]

Omg wtf loses 12mil troops in that event 😳….. id drop dead, reincarnate, just so I could drop dead again…..

[spring geode]

Troop might not units. Should I label it better?

[river haven]

Ya think so. I about had a heart attack reading it. 😅

[spring geode]

Wasteland King Points Chart

[mint vector]

fighting makes it fun even when you have no chance lol

[river haven]

Much better. No heart attack 😋

[livid gazelle]

And troops count as lost if they end up in deep

[mint fulcrum]

Or if you exceed deep heal

[livid gazelle]

I was trying not to bring up those bad memories....

[mint fulcrum]

If you drink enough, they drown out 😂

[livid gazelle]

I need somebody to start buying me drinks

[livid cedar]

For WK trophy score, is that number (1950) your current score or do you have to subtract 100?

[mint fulcrum]

Current. You lost 100 the last time

[livid cedar]

so at the start of the next WK, what will be our score? 1950 or 1850?

[mint fulcrum]

As stated, it is currently at 1950. Because WK is over, it will start next wk at 1950.

[livid cedar]

thank you. That's what i thought too but just wanted to confirm

[mint fulcrum]

All good

[river haven]

I’m not sure if this was in response to my comment but originally the chart was labeled as units killed and I don’t care how they end up considered dead -12 million units killed would be an absolute crisis in my world lol

[hushed jungle]

and in my world it would just be impossible I don't have 12 million units 😂

[grave dagger]

Would definitely be a big ouchie

[orchid belfry]

Hey Stranger 😬😬👀

[livid gazelle]

I would be -3m at that point...

[river haven]

So in this situation- does that mean 419 is guaranteed to go against only 405? Or will they possibly put 527 against them since technically 419 and 527 is tied? And how did they determine which went legend and which was diamond? And if they do add 527 would 527 be getting legend boxes and points while the others get diamond?

[sage spear]

I can only answer part of that. Typically, PNS ranks the one that got there first as higher ranked in a tie. So 527 likely secured all hubs before 419 did.
And odds are it will be 419/405/442 together. Mostly because the 9 legend teams will break out to 3 groups of 3.

[river haven]

Ok. Ironically, the last few times I’ve actually only had one other state it was in legend lol. So basically, who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 🤣. If I was pairing this, I would put one and two together solo since they are significantly ahead in points and then divide to 419…. But what do I know 😋

[orchid belfry]

🧐🧐

So much interest in 419

[river haven]

It’s a good state. But actually my interest is who my options of opponents are for wlk

[orchid belfry]

I wouldn’t mind a match with 381, good thing im friends with dop and ghost 😆

[river haven]

Ya. Good for us lol. I don’t think I would want to be matched against you guys 😅

Our states a little on the small side these days and I’m a little on the dead side

In fact, I think there’s only one state that I would want to be matched against that I could be matched against this round unfortunately.

[orchid belfry]

I have a view states I’d love to get matched with 😏😬

[river haven]

Ya I got a pretty good list usually myself 😂 This one may be a little skimpier than usual cuz everyone’s traveling so much with this tournament etc…. I feel like everything is all mixed up

[plain tapir]

404 again

[orchid belfry]

😏😏

[orchid belfry]

Not as long as I have friends there 😬

[plain tapir]

Oh we don’t have to be friends that day! 😂🤣

[sacred tendon]

Cuando es el emparejamiento para el evento wasteland king

[river cape]

The day of the event: you know only when it starts.

[stoic summit]

When is matchmaking completed for wasteland king? Is it typical to continue to get matched with the same states?

From what I read it seems like if we continue to score similarly we continue to be matched together?

[lapis cosmos]

Yes. Similar states happens quite often tbh. You won't know your opponents till wasteland starts so you never know who you'll get

[stoic summit]

Cool cool cool cool cool...ty blue

[simple pike]

If you use the comeback boost to upgrade troops does upgrading a T9 to T10 count as 60 might from the boost or 15 (the increase per troop)?

[oblique bane]

the difference

[simple pike]

fantastic!

[hollow light]

@lixxy

[cinder patrol]

You typically get matched within 100 points either way, my tracking has shown

[fresh prairie]

Getting annoyed with the 3 towers and doom naps lol

[fleet mesa]

Try no NAP

[uneven rapids]

Hello,
Wondering if someone can give me some clarification. If we are currently in silver and secure a foreign hub does that mean our points will be 500 + 250? Or just 500?

Meaning we have 1700 points we will move straight to platinum... 😱😳

[cinder patrol]

This is mine. It is out of date and hasn’t been updated since the points change.

[river haven]

I can honestly say I haven’t seen a whole lot of consistency with this. The most consistent is legend because there’s only nine options total but with the way the points move up and down these days even that is pretty inconsistent. I have had five or six wlks in a row where I fought the same state. And I’ve had six months or more without any duplicates. It all depends. And the pattern in which it matches I tried tracking and there was no consistency there either.

[river haven]

Yes. Hence the no consistency. I’ll be honest the rankings move around so often now that the higher the rank, the better because you get better rewards. The opponents are pretty much, the same regardless. I think there is only three teams in legend that have been there consistently for a while. The rest of us bounce from platinum to legend diamond platinum to legend to diamond to legend etc 🤣. Shoot for legend and pray that you get a good match up. Chances are you’re gonna end up fighting the same teams in platinum and diamond anyways. Plus you drop points faster so the up-and-down is faster rather than having to throw multiple weeks in a row.

[fresh prairie]

Let's ask @versed hedge

[mint fulcrum]

Bye bye

[versed hedge]

👀😬

[carmine moon]

@fading prairie @fleet mesa
Can you please answer the question of red? 🙏🏼

[fleet mesa]

[mint fulcrum]

We won an extra state last time in gold. We got 500 points for it.

[hallow crown]

The points changed a bit, but you only get points from one column, the own hub means only securing your hub and not taking anyone else's

@carmine moon

[uneven rapids]

Thanks for this information 😊

[sage spear]

There is a very comprehensive chart pinned to this channel that even gives examples

[carmine moon]

🙏🏼 Thx for Support. ☺️

[stoic summit]

Super reinforce for hub/turrets means the others heroes don't matter right? Just captains?

[sage spear]

Correct.

[stoic summit]

Thank you!

[livid gazelle]

That was usually a good idea to have at least one person with heroes in there in case you need to switch out

[oblique bane]

we usually push to have everyone send heroes in case the super runs out. our captains are spread out through out the world so inevitably one build is expired at least for a few minutes

[hushed plover]

Does it make a difference for the shield for the hub when a different alliance is occupying a foreign state than the one which is occupying the home state?

[mint fulcrum]

Shield still activates on your hub even if a different alliance (from your state) occupies an opponent’s hub

[winged aurora]

Question during wasteland war this weekend if you kill people in other alliances within your own state do you get kill points

[mint fulcrum]

Death points

[nimble anvil]

Hello guys if I a player just flew in to the state can they participate in wasteland?

Like 6 hrs before wasteland starts lol

[strange totem]

That’s a good question

[dire basalt]

Probably yes

[lapis cosmos]

I heard yes

Nothing changed. It's just like usual business with the whole cannot hit in state for however long that thing is. As long as they are in state beforehand

[mint fulcrum]

They can join

We’ve had multiple in our state fly in day before and participated just fine. Just can’t attack same state.

[sage spear]

Even 6 seconds before WK is fine

[nimble anvil]

Thank you all for your answers!

[hushed plover]

Ok thanks 🙂

[solemn stratus]

I'm finally doing it right and won't have to spend two weeks taking my fighters out of there 😂

Apparently I still managed to do it wrong? Infirmary won't switch to deep healing? You have to have a completely full infirmary then the next attack will send to deep healing?

Or... the red line means that many went to deep healing? Is that correct?

[sharp palm]

Hello, during wk is the number of players limited to 16 in the tower ?

[solemn stratus]

As far as I know, it's based on the occupying alliance's "united allies" tech skills.

[sharp palm]

Thanks

[willow verge]

You are suppose to fill up the infirmary with T1s while leaving deep healing empty. From that screenshot, you filled up your deep healing with T1s?!

[solemn stratus]

Yes.

Going to deep healing counts for "killed" for points?

[willow verge]

Yes but WK hasn't started yet.

[solemn stratus]

Oh I had no idea. First time doing this particular strategy and like literally only my second time killing troops on towers.

Only a 7k diamond mistake.

[willow verge]

What I do is I fill up my infirmary with T1s and leave deep healing as empty as possible. Then when WK starts, I will kill a march or two against a turret. Every wounded unit will then go into deep healing and count for points.

[solemn stratus]

Well I did the first part right 😂

[abstract dust]

Hello, if we take another states hub, our hub shields right? for how long it shields?

[strange totem]

Until you finish or if they manage to take the hub back

[dire basalt]

Shields as long as you hold their hub yea

For points on killing enemy units, does that include same state units?

[mild crown]

No only foreign units I believe, although you can still kill yourself on home state fortifications for casualty points

[oblique bane]

In state does not count kills only casualties. For both sides, so the defenders may get a little salty with those same state hits

[remote flume]

What is that button?

Never seen it before

[lapis cosmos]

That buttons always been there

[remote flume]

Nope usually it's super reinforcement button

You can reset super reinforced timer without being a leader

[lapis cosmos]

There has always been a reset button

[remote flume]

Yes so that's what the button for ^^

[viscid orbit]

If you lose the state wasteland king to another state will fast comeback be activated after event is finished?

[abstract dust]

Thanks👍🏼

[pale peak]

If alliance infirmary and deep healing get filled, do they go to alliance infirmary or do they die off? This is for WK.

[mint fulcrum]

Alliance infirm then ☠️

[teal imp]

Is the fast comeback math pretty straight forward? Like if you have 15,000,000 in fast comeback displayed that would mean 250,000 x 60 might(for tier 10) would get the extra 30% bonus?

Just wanted to confirm because the last time I did training the math seemed off

[pale peak]

Its a pool of units not might iirc. Lemme double check notes in my states discord

Its 120% of the might lost.

[lapis cosmos]

I couldn't tell you exactly but I usually take the might of a full load of training I have then do division of how many loads ill be able to do. Meaning sometimes a load will go over by a bit and that load still gets the boost cause fast comeback wasn't maxed yet

[pale peak]

If you had 15M might died, then 120% of that so total might pool is 18M so you can train 300K T10 troops at 300% boost.

In this instance 3 T6 = 1 T10 troop

[pale peak]

Yes thats the base. The 120% is determined once thats finalized

[teal imp]

Trying to see if the math on that is straightforward. The wording seems like it is. So you take whatever the might is and divide by the might of 1 troop of the tier you're training

[pale peak]

Not quite

[teal imp]

And that's the total number of troops that will benefit for fast comeback

[pale peak]

Take it multiply by 1.2 then divide by tier troop might.

[teal imp]

Isn't the multiplier used to calculate that number displayed there?

As in if you lost 1,000,000 might on the attack the fast comeback displayed would be 1,200,000

[lapis cosmos]

That's alotta might loss...

[teal imp]

I have 1500+ hours in training speedups I'm planning on burning through. Want to see if I can get the most bang for my buck is all

[lapis cosmos]

Oh definitely. Reason I told above how I calculate my fast comeback. Most accurate results for me is doing my troop might gained from 1 load then dividing your fast comeback by that

[versed hedge]

Just take care you have also the rss (worst case is if you go for that much comeback and then has not the rss to rebuild 🙈)

[lapis cosmos]

Wanna know something funny

[teal imp]

That would be terrible lol

[lapis cosmos]

I only use my fast comback to train t1s I never run outta rss

[teal imp]

I need a lot of troops though. Still learning so I was hoarding and rationing for a long time not realizing how much I had built up

Okay just tested

The multiplier is added into that number displayed. Just killed off some troops - might lost = 600k, and 720k was added to fast comeback

[sage spear]

That is the 120% already applied

[pale peak]

Excellent and good to know lol

[livid gazelle]

I usually run out of speedups before I run out of RSS

[lapis cosmos]

Me too🤣 reason my fast comeback doesn't finish till speedup day

[tame dawn]

What are the current points for hub occupation or losing hubs?

[teal imp]

How many fast comeback points do you usually have?

[lapis cosmos]

Well my t1 switch I was doing got me 5m by killing a ton. But when I do usually try try at leas t8 to 10m I don't die often so can't tell you my exact numbers

[cinder patrol]

It’s in game, tap the Wasteland War event in the event center, then the ! in the top right corner. It’s under Grade Rules tab.

[lean plinth]

how does the taxes work for being a colonized state (foreign take over) is it an actual tax or does the state get paid everytime we attack or transfer resources?

[river cape]

Raiding and transporting are taxed. Always. The taxes for doing it just goes to the other state instead of the ether.

[lean plinth]

Thank you that makes sense

[atomic sierra]

How do you assign a governor to state you took

[fresh prairie]

You don't

[fleet mesa]

You don't. They don't have a governor for the next two weeks

[atomic sierra]

Ohhh okay

[spring plover]

Normally fast comeback starts when we win our state… It has not started and we won 3 hours ago. Any idea when it’ll kick in?

[tame dawn]

If you win your state, the gov starts it whenever they want

[spring plover]

Ohhh, i thought it was automatic. I think our Governor went to sleep 😂😂

[tame dawn]

Lol

If you lose your state, it will start either when the invading state seals the hub, or at the end of WK if nobody seals it

[strange totem]

👀

[jolly gulch]

Isn't WK supposed to be a battle between states with similar power levels?

How do you guys justify matching my state 606 with bloody 113? What a ridiculous system

At very least match newer states with newer states. At least then it's like tough luck, the stronger ones just got lucky or did a better job

It removes the joy of battle if we verse groups that are completely outside our ability to compete with.

[lapis cosmos]

No

It's a battle of states in that bracket

Which means it could be 24/7 battling or boring or partially napped up

Once your past those first few zenith you are pushed out to learn and get your footing. New state has been a sad excuse I've heard recently every state had a starting point in this event. just work together and win your state hub together. You'll win some you'll lose some.

[cinder patrol]

All fair game if you’re in the same bracket and within 100 points of each other

[jolly gulch]

It's completely illogical. Also, that was a really sorry excuse for justifying an imbalance in the game Bionic.

It's not physically possible to defeat a state with like 20 + I billion power players when we are such a brand new group.

It is a defect within the developers matchmaking structure and seriously should be reworked if they want to create a fair system for all players

[lapis cosmos]

I've seen my fair share of questionable lineups always good to have t1s on hand lol

[jolly gulch]

What's the point of events if we keep having to match against groups with a major-colossal advantage. It's like expecting a starter polemon player to challenge the elite four. Wtf? No, that's not okay

[lapis cosmos]

What you are asking for is a handicap basically on a war game because you are a new state. All new states go through it. It's time to get your footing and learn and observe the event

[jolly gulch]

Even the reward system for standard events is broken. You're expecting people to score higher than those who've been in the game for several years longer. They have HQ based perks which enable them to score higher than newer players in all events. Broken

Honestly just broken

And the devs can do better

I hope they do better

[lapis cosmos]

It's not broken

They actually updated it recently for points

[jolly gulch]

A handicap? Requesting balanced footing in a game is called common sense

You're asking for a handicap by enabling your state to verse brand new states

Too afraid to challenge your own fellow 100's. Okay mate 👍

[lapis cosmos]

You realize in older states there are different sizes correct?

[jolly gulch]

Devs, if you scroll around these posts, I hope you consider more balance so people can enjoy the game

[lapis cosmos]

So yes it's fair

[jolly gulch]

I'm not going to sit here and argue with someone who is benefiting from the imbalance of your matchmaking structure

[lapis cosmos]

You are both in that bracket

I don't participate in wasteland often. If I have time I go hit turrets on my own with the nap given

My state has face its fair share of ouch that really hurt moments. And oh yeah let's take this lol

[river cape]

Let's see if I can help.

1. Nothing in this game, or life, is fair. You have more money than I do, gimme some, cuz that's not fair to me! I should have the same amount as you!
2. Learn to hoard absolutely everything. That is how you manage to finish phase reward. You probably wont be able to do every event every week, so you have to pick and choose which ones are most important for you.
3. The devs and captains don't read this discord, so ranting at them won't get you anywhere. Instead, send it to CS in game, their facebook, twitter, email.

[jolly gulch]

Are you all just conveniently passive aggressive?

[river cape]

No, we've just been playing longer so know what it takes for the f2p and low pay to accomplish things.

[jolly gulch]

First sentence "Nothing in this game, or life, is fair"
Okay mate.
A simple devs are present on Discord is enough

[lapis cosmos]

Playing 2 years you learn about this game

Most of us are here for the people and to share our knowledge

[river cape]

They aren't on discord.

[jolly gulch]

Yeah, it's not our experience difference that is the issue here 🙂

Plan, at least you gave me one bit of useful advise. I'll try FB or customer support direct

[lapis cosmos]

Obvious you aren't here to learn and just complain since you are saying plan and I are being agressive

I suggest you go message CS

[jolly gulch]

You're not teaching either

[river cape]

Ok, so, everything in your life is fair? Where'd you buy those rose coloured glasses cuz I want a pair.

[jolly gulch]

You're just patting yourself on the back over a topic that has nothing to do with experience

Weird flex, but also, pointless