Mangmi Pocket Max

[nimble isle]

Yes

I am a fortune teller

I predict that the price is going to be absolute dogshit and you should buy a base portal while it's still in stock

And I can say this with absolute certainty

100%

[wintry mountain]

...

I might wake up at 2am incase there's a worldwide launch

[wicked lance]

248.00 cheaper than portal

[nimble isle]

If you want the device

Try to get the first one to get the case

So you can at least sell it for profit

[wintry mountain]

If it's $199 + $10 shipping, i'll buy. Any more, i'll go back to sleep

[solemn hollow]

Lol

[wicked lance]

Thats dedication 😅 I can’t wake up for these anymore

[nimble isle]

David got the alarm ready

[wintry mountain]

I did it for the Thor and Odin 3 lol

Not the most responsible thing in the world...

But i enjoyed getting shipped earlier than most others

[wicked lance]

I did it for Miyoo drops back in the day but not since 😅 i like my sleep too much now im getting old

[nimble isle]

Good luck

[wintry mountain]

I might not do it... We shall see... There's no guarantee it'll even be a worldwide launch tbf

[nimble isle]

To be fair

I think they should keep it in china

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/you-do-you-point-nod-yes-good-gif-5281405

[nimble isle]

Don't embarrass yourself mangmi

[solemn hollow]

😂😂😂

[wintry mountain]

I keep checking https://mangmi.com/products/mangmi-pocket-max to see if they've set up the page early lol

[solemn hollow]

Megabonk in a 7" screen would be great!

Or summertime saga

[wintry mountain]

That sounds wholesome, lemme google it real qui...

[solemn hollow]

"Real quick" is the best way to sum it up

[dire charm]

I'm just here for new david drops

[wintry mountain]

Stubbs have Mangmi told you whether 6pm PST today is the worldwide preorder date, or is it just for China?

[dire charm]

Should be worldwide on Feb 5th at 6pm PST

But wait for official reveal because they might change plans by tonight, previously it was Feb 3rd

[nimble isle]

Search history ruined for life

[wintry mountain]

Ohh interesting, I know they mentioned that time on their Chinese image released recently, but seems to be like for non-preorders

[dire charm]

10:08 BJT guessing 😆

[wintry mountain]

Yeah yeah deffo

[dire charm]

They pushed the dates forward a little since then though, yes. They sent me an email yesterday about it.

[wintry mountain]

Feb 2nd 6pm PST is Feb 3rd 10am CST (Chinese Standard Time)

[dire charm]

Emargo lifts at 6pm PST tonight as well for reviews (despite a few videos already in the wild -- went live before reading the email 😂 )

[wintry mountain]

TechDweeb blacklisted

[dire charm]

They didn't seemed too bothered, but a good reminder to let reviewers know early (like when they ship units)

[wintry mountain]

It'll be 2am my time and I was gonna be a degenerate and wake up, but uh, i think i will not do that lol... Prob won't be worldwide preorders opening then

[frail summit]

They spanked Dweeb's bottom red 😭😭😭

[undone lynx]

To be fair given that the international price announcement is probably going to kill off most of the interest in this device TechDweeb did them a favor by driving up what hype he could before the bad news drop

[frail summit]

Thank you Dweeb for letting us fall softly

[deep vector]

TechDweeb killing Pocket Max Hype since 2026

[nimble isle]

I watched a review and honestly a part of me wanted to buy the device even after ordering the portal

It's such a good streaming handheld

[frail summit]

Absolute greed

[nimble isle]

But it just doesn't make sense

[nimble isle]

I really need to empty my checking account into the investments so I don't get those urges anymore

When you sit on 5k you start wanting everything

This klarna pay in 3 also doing tricks on my head

[proud vector]

I'm not a fan of the price of this thing

[frail summit]

You and literally everyone else here

[nimble isle]

I already bought like £500 worth of stuff because "why not, it's just a day of work every month for 3 months"

[umbral rampart]

Nah, poor price and corny modular buttons

[civic ore]

we don't know the official price in the west yet

[proud vector]

Regardless of muh high refresh rate big oled and muh modular controls that are useless as shit WHY NOT JUST DO MODULAR ANALOG STICKS TOO SO YOU CAN SWAP THEM AROUND

[nimble isle]

Pocket dmg and the portal and sons pc peripherals

[nimble isle]

If this was the case I would actually love it

It still makes me think about their decision

With the modules being the way they are they are basically just useless feature

[civic ore]

if you could swap the left stick with the dpad it'd be infinitely more interesting

[nimble isle]

Someone in the company really said "let's do it"

[ripe girder]

Someone let the wrong guy cook

[nimble isle]

It's not the decision that makes me mad it's that someone really saw this proposition and said ok yeah that makes sense

[proud vector]

Honestly yeah

[nimble isle]

It's like in videogames when someone makes a trash update and you sit there like "someone in the company really saw those patch notes and said yeah go with that what could go wrong" same with those stupid modules

[proud vector]

It'd be a bit of an easier sell if they made analog sticks modular

[weak hazel]

well if they gonna do elite, then it means gen5 and beyond should be able to use. thtas when odin4 comes in

[nimble isle]

At least we can be sure that the guy is probably not going to be cooking much longer after sale numbers come in

Right?

Surely it's not going to be another Ayaneo situation

Where one guy makes all the decisions and almost all of them are mistakes

[ripe girder]

That’s why the guy left ayaneo

(I’m all in on the conspiracy tho that ayaneo owns Mangmi)

[civic ore]

it's presumed to be former Ayaneo employees

but tbh smells more like Retroid/AYN to me

if this was Moorechip third handheld company it would surprise nobody

[north flower]

The naming schemes and color choices definitely feel like Ayaneo to me

Only a former Ayaneo employee would make a 7 inch handheld with pocket in the name

[deep vector]

It's Pocketable if you have like JNCO jeans

[vital brook]

RIP , it's over

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-over-it's-gif-3551756699416095564

[dire charm]

Confirmed

Should be 72 hrs

[slender silo]

Poor Mangmi Pocket Max. Only got 72 hours to live, and maybe not even that.

[deep marsh]

It's never over when there is a subscription discount afoot

[frail summit]

My shift is over bring me up to speed

[tough fulcrum]

Embargo is over in an hour, right?

[frail summit]

Wait what

Do we still have no news on price?

[torn onyx]

I’m excited

[umbral rampart]

Looks like $200

[frail summit]

What's the retail?

In 35 minutes it will be real

[umbral rampart]

Around 230 I believe

[frail summit]

They're either making a crazy play

Or are getting ready to rawdog us

[umbral rampart]

Only time will tell

RIP pocket max

[frail summit]

29 mins

I think now would be prime time to have a prayer to Silvia in the hopes that she doesn't bend us over

[ripe girder]

I’m here to clown on this device once more

[frail summit]

From the official site

You can start clowning on it if you want

[prisma umbra]

$240 retail. Well that's unfortunate

[ripe girder]

In the main discord

[flint quiver]

https://x.com/mangmi_official/status/2018505411440329117?s=61

MANGMI Official (@MANGMI_Official)

MANGMI Pocket Max — Official Pricing Announced
Super Early Bird Price: $199.99
🗓 Release Date: 02/05/22026 6:00PM PST

👉 Launching soon on https://t.co/w2AO5O8O87

#MANGMI #PocketMax #GamingHandheld #OLED #GameStreaming #AndroidGaming

X · Feb 3, 2026, 2:02 AM

[tough fulcrum]

$200 isnt bad, $240 isnt good

[ripe girder]

$200 is straight up disrespectful

[prisma umbra]

They should have saved some money and not done the modular control thing imo. Save that gimmick/feature for a flagship model

[ripe girder]

RP 6, G2, Portal dominating

[warm swallow]

all because of a shitty execution of button/dpad modules

yeah what @prisma umbra said

[ripe girder]

Historic fumble

[worn bay]

Who even wanted those I wonder

[prisma umbra]

I was interested as a device for my kids. Minecraft plus android tablet stuff

[flint quiver]

Some executive at Mangmi

[prisma umbra]

Kind of a pain to get local multiplayer Minecraft up and running on my daughter's switch

[ripe girder]

They had an opportunity to corner the 170-190 market

[slender lily]

does this have passtrhough charging?

[slender silo]

So I guess you gotta pay extra to get the actual gimmick: https://mangmi.com/products/mangmi-pocket-max

On the page ... "Mechanical Micro-Switch Modules: Add/Do not add"

[deep marsh]

With switches

[worn bay]

Damn

[slender lily]

thats crazy!

[worn bay]

For a moment I thought the 199 was with add

[slender silo]

Otherwise I guess you just have the membrane buttons and a useless system for "swapping" them. So adding them is $12.

[acoustic tulip]

The micro switch modules are even more expensive in the red and white colors

[slender silo]

It's not advertised as supporting pass-through charging, so unless they didn't think it was worth advertising then probably not.

[deep marsh]

Portal sold out soooo

[ripe girder]

For now

[slender silo]

Twenty bucks!

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah $20 for the buttons is a bit steep

[acoustic tulip]

Ayn and mangmi same company confirmed

[slender lily]

the portal was sold out already

once before

it came back

[slender silo]

They're waiting for the 5th to add more Portals.

[tough fulcrum]

I feel like theyre just trying to get rid of all their Odin 2 line to pave way for the 3 line

[slender lily]

does the rp6 was pass through

the odin 3 does

[worn bay]

Fitting profile picture

[tough fulcrum]

?

[slender lily]

i wonder how many portals have been bought in the last few days

[worn bay]

"Boy oh boy... the price of buttons is steep"

[deep marsh]

It's going to come down to shipping price for me.

[slender lily]

im looking at these deals like im going to get somewhtin when i have a g2 and ordered an odin 3 smh

[tough fulcrum]

Ahh yeah

[tough fulcrum]

It's just an addiction at this point. Definitely don't need it, but I want it

[slender lily]

im waiting for my bach 3 odin shipment should be shipped soon

exactly

[tough fulcrum]

Did you get rainbow? Feels like that one shipped out the earliest

[ripe girder]

rainbow best looking tbh

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah theyre pretty sick

[acoustic tulip]

Air X shows $16 shipping to me right now in USA

[north flower]

Not beating the ayaneo allegations

[still ember]

Ayn odin 2 portal base say to Mangmi
https://youtube.com/shorts/jHiZNeADqKs?si=cCboPSkJi_Z1AUaD

[slender lily]

i got the base odin

not going to play much pc games

just want the extra power for future switch once turnip drivers come out

i haver a steam deck

[deep marsh]

Way better than the $32 I had for the portal. Held off on that hoping for better pricing on this one. It's a hard maybe for purchase :/

[slender lily]

but it doesnt have to make sense it's an addiction i guess

the performance is orver double better

you didnt want to pay another 16 bucks for that?

[still ember]

Hopefully, o2p base is permanently stock out.
Mangmi most important prayer

[fossil iris]

Looks premium but dweeb or Stubbs said that the build quality is not up to par to ayn's offering. Also you're buying into the company should you need any after sales support and AYN has much more goodwill over the years so let's say a 10% premium for build quality and another 5% for after sales, it's basically the same price as the O2P and more expensive after SEB for a worse chip

[slender lily]

wow the famous david ive heard of in youtube vids

[north flower]

Hopefully they stop being delusional and keep retail $200

[slender lily]

true

[deep marsh]

The ergo gets some points. Heard that the portal still needs a grip.

[ripe girder]

Don't think they can afford it

All the O2Ps were probably made before RAM spike

same for RP6

[slender lily]

they are to new of a company or the low prices maybe?

too*

[ripe girder]

only if you have small baby hands

[slender lily]

i just want the product to be quality and good customer srvice

the fact that the buttons are extra is the straw that broke the camels back

[still ember]

But they can't. They release where the ram shortage increase their production cost.
They are cooked.
They need Retroid dont do a terminator act
discount 10 to 20 for rp5 selling at 179 or 189 during the super early bird.

[deep marsh]

I think this is ok. As long as button choice is part of the sale.

[slender lily]

i think the buttons should be included

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah I wish you could choose what style and not be stuck with the membrane by default

[slender lily]

true

[deep marsh]

If it's membrane by default that would suck. That's not my preferred.

[still ember]

They cannot as the Super Early Bird is price they barely earn any monies more like selling you at a cost.

[slender lily]

howdid they make an amazing piece with their first piece?

[tough fulcrum]

It is. The option on the site is to add the micro switch

[slender lily]

everyone talks about their first piece like its amazing

price to performance

its hard to know where this fits

every1 says it's a premuim RP5 but who is getting an rp5 rn

[deep marsh]

Case already sold out

[tough fulcrum]

If this was one year ago, people would be singing praises for the Pocket Max. Just a little bit too late

[slender lily]

it can play most gc and ps2 games who knows if at 2.5x res and or the whole library native?

[tough fulcrum]

Was it available to buy or is it also launching on the 5th?

[ripe girder]

[slender lily]

hes messing around

the pocket maz says sold out too

max

[deep marsh]

Not available from what I could see. So likely launching on the 5th, but I'm guessing.

[west oyster]

at early bird pricing this is probably the cheapest way to get 120+hz for crt beam simulation in this form factor

[slender lily]

could the rp5 play all ps2 and gc games native atleast?

i heardat 144hz it has flicker or something

[tough fulcrum]

For sure, and most were upscale to at least 2x

865 is still a good chip

[slender lily]

i heard the sly cooper games would have trouble on the rp5

maybe at native fine?

i need to look at an rp5 review lol

[tough fulcrum]

I guess I never tried them on my flip2 so I can't speak to experience

[slender lily]

god of war?

[frail summit]

You can do upscaling to 2x-3x depending on the game

[frail summit]

Prob 2x

[tough fulcrum]

2x iirc, 30fps

[frail summit]

You can even do Switch stuff

[slender lily]

was god of war originally 30fps?

[frail summit]

Pretty sure majority of PS2 was 30 FPS

[tough fulcrum]

Don't know, never had a ps2

[slender lily]

i heard there was some ps2 games rp5 had trouble with and the g2 is basically do wahtever you want with ps2 and gc

[ripe girder]

Have you thought about our lord and savior Odin 2 Portal

[slender lily]

lool sold out for now

[ripe girder]

You won't sweat about running PS2

[frail summit]

Fuck outta here with that false prophet

[slender lily]

loool

[deep marsh]

For me, it matters if the fan turns on. Most of these handhelds have garbage fans the squeal.

[ripe girder]

You can even run PS3

[still ember]

For sly Cooper or sly Cooper 2, you need to tinker and get the right setting to play on S865 handheld.
S865 can handle most of the ps2 games including God of war

[digital igloo]

Do they throw in free screen protector and bag this time?

[ripe girder]

back in stock

[acoustic tulip]

To be fair, a year ago this probably wouldn’t have been $199

[frail summit]

Mileage may vary

[slender lily]

back in stock already?

[tough fulcrum]

Tru

[slender lily]

prof the prince of ayn

[still ember]

At this moment, it is Stock out.

[ripe girder]

Mangmi really got cooked, I feel real bad for them

[frail summit]

Fuck

[ripe girder]

nah its not

[frail summit]

I need Ayn to start fumbling rn

[slender lily]

they brought it back now?

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah, suspicious timing lmao

[ripe girder]

Mangmi had the perfect oppertunity to do a 1080p 7" 120hz oled, 8gen2, 8gb, without any goofy button switching

[slender lily]

the portal is back in stock

[frail summit]

They know

[slender lily]

they hit david with this one directly

[deep marsh]

Hmmm it's down to $24 for shipping too

[worn bay]

Time for a wellness check

[frail summit]

Hmm this reminds me of a device but I can't put my finger on it

[frail summit]

2 steps from the edge rn

[still ember]

odin 2 portal base is exactly a Terminator aiming at Mangmi 🙁

[ripe girder]

RP6 price drop about to be T2

[slender lily]

they haerd you say i hope it stays out of stock

does prof work for ayn?

[frail summit]

Fuck

[ripe girder]

I wish

[frail summit]

He's an agent

[ripe girder]

free Odin 3 is just what I need

tbh I was trying to decide b/w mangmi pm, RP6 and going full monty with odin 3

then Odin 2 portal dropped in price and I had to cop

[still ember]

Mangmi is trying to sell pocket max and not having Terminator ( ayn odin 2 portal base) coming to visit them.

[ripe girder]

and I became a certified mangmi hater for ruining a perfectly good handheld launch with poor pricing

[slender lily]

even with the portal full price they compete with the rp6

i guess it wins by screen size but for performance would be good

[frail summit]

RP6 isn't a 7"er so it doesn't have a horse in the race

[fossil iris]

Still going to be a tough sell if O2P have price parity, initial sales and reviews are going to tear it apart and the rep of it will not recover even if O2P promo ends

[slender lily]

thats crazy that they rerstocked the moment prof started spreading rhetoric

it has a horse in the race for overall retro handheld sales

[ripe girder]

They've been going in and out of stock all week

[slender lily]

prof you picked 1 up?

[ripe girder]

yea I ordered it last night

[frail summit]

Honestly when those Portals are out of stock this thing has space to breathe

They just might barely hang on

[slender lily]

the pocket max doping bad might be all it takes for mangmi to die off unfortunately

[still ember]

I told you they playing stock in, stock out. to increase FOMO

[ripe girder]

Should I get a konkr fit for a more portable handheld?

[slender lily]

doing

[runic lance]

$200 is fine. The other handhelds around that price are way smaller and do not compete with this.

[slender lily]

not even the people who ordered can get theirs

[fossil iris]

RP6?

[ripe girder]

tbh if retroid starts their CNY sale mangmi is certifiably cooked

[runic lance]

But if you can get a portal restock, definitely go for that

[ripe girder]

It will be same chipset as the o2p

[still ember]

But Retroid cannot do a Rp5 discount sale or else Mangmi in trouble.

[slender lily]

lool

[ripe girder]

I already have a steam deck tho so maybe I'll get some meme linux machine like OGU

[fossil iris]

Something less or more powerful? I think the brick hammer perhaps?

[slender lily]

mangmi did so good witht heir firast piece

first

[runic lance]

Who cares, if you consider both the rp5 and pocket max, you’re the problem, not the mangmi’s pricing.

[ripe girder]

probably just up to PS1 is fine for the smaller handheld

[runic lance]

I genuinely can’t fathom how slightly better value will shift you from a 5,5” to a 7” screen

[haughty basalt]

was the price revealed

[ripe girder]

yea

[frail summit]

Its ass

Wrong thing

Imma go back in the closet

[slender lily]

is any1 going to get the pocket max anyway?

[runic lance]

Pocket Max only competes with the Portal

[frail summit]

And pray for a better device

[runic lance]

7” is massive

[fossil iris]

I think brick covers PS1

[frail summit]

Im heavily considering it

And the RP6

[tough fulcrum]

Thinking about it. Kinda just want it for shits and giggles

[ripe girder]

if you gonna get RP6 wait a couple of weeks if you can hold off until after CNY

ali will have a big March sale as well

[frail summit]

I wont have the opportunity to buy it for a while so I dont mind

[slender lily]

to me the performance matters more than screen size

[frail summit]

Same

[slender lily]

to each tiehr own

their

[frail summit]

But there's a caveat for me

[ripe girder]

thats why O2P is solid you don't have to pick

[runic lance]

Order a RP6 then I guess

[civic ore]

it's not the amazing deal people wanted but it's not terrible

[slender lily]

odin 3 hits the sweet spot for screen size

[civic ore]

I think it'll do fine

[tough fulcrum]

For me it's screen size and ergos. Already have way more powerful stuff. Just need something that will convince me to play some ps1

[slender lily]

@ripe girder you and your propoganda

lol

[frail summit]

Screen size is nice but there comes a certain point in price where the only thing I care for is performance

[slender lily]

i dont think it will sell at full retail price

[frail summit]

And the Pocket Max is bordering on that point

[runic lance]

Yeah it might not

[ripe girder]

If you really wanna get price/performance RP6 or Pocket FIT is the best choice probably

[slender lily]

mangmi seems like a good company though

[frail summit]

Pocket Fit

[slender lily]

pocket fitt is too much trouble

[tough fulcrum]

The only issue is getting the pocket fit lol

[ripe girder]

I lean towards teh KONKR just because of the extra screen and you get a G3 gen 3

[slender lily]

i roded my pocket fitt and cancelled

ordered

[frail summit]

Brother said Pocket Fit

[tough fulcrum]

Same, ordered before my Odin 3, and canceled when the Odin 3 shipped

[ripe girder]

I wonder if people are canceling their O2P orders thats why its in stock

[frail summit]

Can you believe this joker

[ripe girder]

canceling in favor of the pocket max

[slender lily]

mine is shipping in this next batch going out

what do you guys think about a 6 inch screen?

[ripe girder]

I heard the website orders are going out finally they finished all IGG

[frail summit]

Cool but by the time I receive the device ill be buying my first house

[slender lily]

i feel like the 6 inch screen is a perfect middle

i might get the pocket max anyway to support a new company

they did so good with their 1st device

[still ember]

Ha Ha. No
the base model you got ddr5 8G.
look at now, ddr5 8G is really expensive.
If o2p base is produce now, it will cost more than 249 dollar with all the part increase prices.

[frail summit]

We ball

[tough fulcrum]

6" is serviceable, and the O3 has a great oled(as long as you don't lose the lottery), but I still like playing on my switch 2 more

[frail summit]

I was told 6" was not at all serviceable I'm afraid

[runic lance]

They kinda did as good as they could with the max too, the market is just really rough.
Tough to compete with companies that can afford to buy in bigger bulk

[fossil iris]

Ironically best price to performance for handhelds are the z1e allys

[ripe girder]

oh I was just talking about ARM specific

[slender lily]

im surprised no one has opinions on a 6 inch screen

[fossil iris]

I think 5.5 of RP6 isn't going to be much different, so RP6 and x86 handheld 7/8" if you need more power

[frail summit]

I was told 6" is inadequate

[slender lily]

damn

[ripe girder]

I think its a combination of a fumble and poor timing. The goofy removable buttons was a huge fumble when they should have just KISS. Timingwise they don't purchase enough volume like the big brands and also their device probably has to be made after RAM price spike while the others were already made

[runic lance]

Ye scratching the modularity was th only thing they could’ve done better

[frail summit]

I think the RP6 is the biggest bang for the buck. The Portal too but that sale only lasts so long.

[runic lance]

Using a 8Gen2 was never option since the portal would swallow that whole

Especially with the ram crisis making 12 and 16gb skus way more difficult to launch

[ripe girder]

could have gone with 120hz screen no gimmick and done 150 probably

would have torn down the market

even 170

[tough fulcrum]

X to doubt

[runic lance]

Nah you’re delusional

[fossil iris]

120hz screen isn't a huge discount

[ripe girder]

plenty of 7" phone screens laying around

I'm sure

[runic lance]

$150 will get you a T820

[still ember]

I think Mangmi Pocket Max early bird launch should be still okay. But really lack of FOMO

[tough fulcrum]

They probably chose the 144 screen because they got it cheaper than a 120

[ripe girder]

its possible tbh

[ripe girder]

could have also stuck a mediatek in it

[deep marsh]

I swore no more T820s after the wifi range issues with the rg556. Have held to that.

[ripe girder]

notl ike they need linux support

dimensity 8300 > 865, no? In raw numbers

mediatek is a meme company tho

[fossil iris]

Wonky ass dimensions if they tried to use a 20.5:9 screen

[runic lance]

D73XX could’ve worked

So they’d have more wiggle room with the pricing

[frail summit]

On paper yes but I can only do 4x PS2 so many times before I ask when can I do Switch

[ripe girder]

ayn really cooked with their sale tbh, until then I was so sure I was gonna get the pocket max

[runic lance]

Ayn has some evil timing

[tough fulcrum]

Please dont think about that when I post my 557 up for sale

[frail summit]

I won't

[runic lance]

Like the Portal sniped the Pocket Evo, the Thor sniped Pocket DS and the Portal Sale sniped the Pocket Max

Ayn is out for blood

[frail summit]

I'm still deciding and things may change but I think I'll get the RP6

[runic lance]

Don’t forget to order a grip ;))

[obsidian granite]

Just seen the price and at $200 it's OKish but retail at $240 is a ripoff , if anything it might have sales until the EB is done then fall off cliff

[ripe girder]

It'll be a perma sale device

They should buy out O2P stock only way of surviving

[obsidian granite]

It sort of has to be

[tough fulcrum]

It'll EB and then retail for a week and then back to EB

[obsidian granite]

Well we thought that about the Air X but look at it now

[frail summit]

Would I need the grip for dpad top

I see a lot of people happy without it

[tough fulcrum]

Better to get it and not need it than not get it and need it

[still ember]

Are u buying rp6 or pocket max?

[runic lance]

Depends on what you want to play

If you use the stick, than it’s always a yes

[fossil iris]

Air X didn't really have great alternatives with it's specs be it screen or chip. Retroid and AYN has a grip on every segment in the mid to high end arm market with a SKU for each step. Hard to enter it without taking losses and the market conditions didn't help this launch either

[frail summit]

Still deciding but currently leaning on RP6

[north flower]

Okay they're definitely former Ayaneo

[tough fulcrum]

Shoulda called it MayaSpace

[obsidian granite]

It looks almost exactly like AyaNeo software

[north flower]

Biggest tell is the device spoofing imo, only Ayaneo does that AFAIK, mainly due to g3x gen 2 compatibility issues

[ripe girder]

spoof sd865 for a better processor

[obsidian granite]

Sure but my point was mostly that EB pricing on the Air X was great but unfortunately now slightly more expensive and was more just saying that Air X is not going back to EB prices with Ramapocalypse

[fossil iris]

Air X has no reason to stick to EB prices due to competition. Pocket Max has to for it to be a reasonable buy is my point haha

[still ember]

Okay. It is sad day for Mangmi

[narrow heart]

Some people are claiming Mangmi and MiniLoong are actually the same company

Same launcher theme, same included USB cable and even shipping from the same address

[north flower]

Damn

[tough fulcrum]

Honeslty never heard of MiniLoong

[narrow heart]

They recently released the Pocket 1

[still ember]

No !!! ha ha.

[tough fulcrum]

Pocket checks out

[still ember]

Mangmi seem to only release Qualcomm chips only.

[jade garnet]

Looks decent.

https://youtu.be/frk3LtdUSH0?si=dmNvGVIGbwAKnPgD

[slender lily]

so how are the talks going gentlemen

have we come to a conclusion

i think more devices should have passthrough charging

[deep vector]

So you're telling me that the one thing that sets this thing apart from everyone else and you have to pay extra for it

Lol

What was the point of advertising the Micro-Switch Modules to begin with

[warm swallow]

what was the point of the micro-switch modules to begin with

[deep vector]

To charge more Apparently

[slender lily]

...

[nimble isle]

[wintry mountain]

I asked Mangmi how much shipping would be to the UK but they apparently don't know

Fair play though they replied in like 20 mins

[nimble isle]

They dont know because they didn't expect anyone to buy this

[still ember]

Please dont be so cruel to Mangmi

[nimble isle]

Restart the poetry and I may consider being more understanding of their situation

[novel spindle]

It's dead on water lol 😆

With this absurd price

[still ember]

In this discord, Still got people willing to purchase the SEB to support Mangmi. But Sale Volume will not be great

[novel spindle]

Why on earth will you recommend this now we've got Odin 2 portal for 250 bucks. Even RP6 or RP G2 is my easy recommendation rather than Pocket max

[still ember]

Because it has TMR joystick, good ergonomic and magnetic modules.

[novel spindle]

Who tf cares about TMR joystick that can be bought for like 20 bucks lol

[still ember]

Yes, I agreed. Mangmi is cooked.

[novel spindle]

Magnetic module that no one needed

[nimble isle]

Oh wait

It's 240 retail?

Isn't rp6 220?

Holy shit

[novel spindle]

Yeah, 240 without shipping to be exact

For a mere Snapdragon 865, what were they thinking lol 😆

[wintry mountain]

#1448862795788582922 message

[solemn hollow]

I just need a good streaming handheld with full controls and good ergos. It's a better deal to get the MPM than the Portal 2 + the grip.

[nimble isle]

They made this first 188 get a free case in china

Because they know there will be like 150 orders

So people get decent value

Weird how they didn't do it for international

[cursive glacier]

these guys are definitely ex-ayaneo

[nimble isle]

WHAT

[cursive glacier]

because they keep changing shit

[nimble isle]

They are really only selling it at 200 only for a week

So a week later there will be pocket max with 865 at 240 and Odin 2 portal for 250

And rp6 at 220

And Odin 3 at whatever

[mystic jetty]

I think it goes from 199 week 1, 220 week 2, then retail 250 after that

[mystic jetty]

It was 72hours so they've just extended that I believe

Sucks regardless

[nimble isle]

Is rp6 6"?

[wispy plaza]

5.5

[nimble isle]

Ok fair

I understand that 1.5" can make a lot of difference but still

A week later it will be the same price as rp6

Another week after that 10 dollars below portal

[wispy plaza]

what price will the Portal base be on February 26th is the question

[deep vector]

It won't matter because the Pocket Max will be $240 by then

[wispy plaza]

I don't assume the Portal base will go back to $329

[deep vector]

It should be $300

[wispy plaza]

feel like it was below that even before this sale

[vast coral]

This has been entertaining

[mystic jetty]

That's why I'm avoiding rp6. 5.5" is just too small (sorry fellas)

[vital brook]

Came out way too late in the market for that price

[vast coral]

it is pretty small for the power of the 8 gen 2 yeah

[mystic jetty]

Yup. I downloaded where winds meet yesterday and gave it a try on the rp5. Deleted it within 5 minutes because it looked too small, and I didn't enjoy 30fps cap

[vast coral]

oh thats 100% not a game for that small a screen 😄

[mystic jetty]

Oh yeah for sure. I tried it on my fold 7 in full screen, camera distance set to furthest away and it's so much better of an experience, aswell as the constant 60fps

[vast coral]

I might try it on the portal

[nimble isle]

As a 9.06" haver(Astra) I totally agree

[muted panther]

way to kill a device with price

[undone lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/gentlemen-synchronize-synch-synchronise-notaquietk-gif-18049587

[wintry mountain]

https://youtu.be/JgTEGk9dtzk?si=6nX58N4k6rjC6Xt4

[whole gust]

I just with it had at least the g2 chip.... instead of modular gimmicks

I'd be all over it

[solemn hollow]

Black looks so good tho, but poor choice of games to showcase. Should have gone with Subnautica and Red dead Redemption.

[mystic jetty]

Honedtly, if redmagic release an elite 5 astra (which they probably will), I'll be buying it and forgetting about any future handhelds for the foreseeable future.

Heck if 8 gen 6 is out in August / sept, maybe one of the Chinese manufacturers will release a tablet with that soc early on

[vast coral]

whats the performance gains for elite 5 over elite?

[north flower]

About 20% for cpu and gpu iirc, not nothing but not anything crazy either

[wintry mountain]

For me, I'm undecided until I see the shipping cost

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-fry-my-god-do-it-gif-5888454

People usually say that to me 😅

[civic ore]

20-30% ish

[wintry mountain]

I'm expecting it in June. Sign up for their newsletter and they usually give you a discount and early bird access and stuff

[nimble isle]

Rough

[mystic jetty]

Not alot but not nothing as as aynployee pointed out. I also have the Samsung edition elite which has the same clock as the elite 5 gpu, but I don't really want to play on my fold 7

[mystic jetty]

Thanks for the heads up! I'll be doing that right away. Hopefully there's an inclusion for micro sd though or it's DOA for me personally again. Unless the 256gb is the base model then I should be okay

[wintry mountain]

Oh I doubt they'll add a microSD card slot unfortunately. The new Lenovo Y700 might have one, and that should have the 8 Elite Gen 5, but it won't be OLED

[mystic jetty]

no Oled 😭😭😭

I swesr these companies communicate with each other and intentionally leave out different things making the decision hard

[wintry mountain]

Usually 12GB/256GB is base for RedMagic yeah. There'll be a 16GB/512GB and 24GB/1TB model too I imagine.

256GB is a bit tight for GameHub and stuff tho

[mystic jetty]

I'd like To think so as my buddy has the 11 pro 24/1tb

[vast coral]

yeah for an elite i'd want 512gb minumum

[mystic jetty]

Id skip it purely because I'd want 16gb ram minimum I think

12gb is ample for emulating switch and below but I'm sure the high high end Gamehub stuff will benefit from the extra ram

[warm swallow]

there's still stuff to talk about with this system?

[wintry mountain]

Nah, post tellitubbies translations instead

[mystic jetty]

Lala was the goat

Weren't they all porn stars though?

Irl

😭😂😂😂

[mystic jetty]

Where looking for the next thread to meet up in, not too sure where that is

I will miss David dearly if he isn't as active anymore

[nimble isle]

Imagine 8-9" oled, 2 usb ports one of which is actually in the right place to put a controller on. Don't give a shit about SD card, 16:10 ratio is fine, 8gen5 would be perfect

I would pay £700 for this

[mystic jetty]

Yeah I've decided if I'm getting 16gb, it comes with 512gb at which point I too don't give a shit about sd card

[warm swallow]

https://tenor.com/c4UhMc2HnqO.gif

[mystic jetty]

I'd probably pay similar if it's 8-9" OLED wirh the elite 5 16gb, because I'd enjoy using it for shows too and I read a lotta comics manga at night

[still ember]

Rumours that Elite 5 chip have heating issues ?

https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-15-benchmarks-3614813/

Remember not all snapdragon chips are great.

[wintry mountain]

In OnePlus' phone maybe

The 8 Eltie 5 rules dude, it can play unreal engine 5 games

[still ember]

But it seem that there are thermal issues.

[wintry mountain]

But yknow people doing that are using a cooler on their phones

[still ember]

U need very active cooling for 8 elite 5 I believe.

[wintry mountain]

And the RedMagic 8 Elite Gen 5 phone has a fan and water cooling

The OnePlus 15 will just have inadequate cooling for it,it's not the fault of the chip

[still ember]

https://www.phonearena.com/news/the-snapdragon-8-elite-gen-5-is-fast-but-not-all-phones-can-handle-the-heat_id175544

If got good active cooling I think 8 Elite gen 5 chip is great

But the 8 elite use by odin 3 and konkr fit dont have this run away thermal issue I believe. I think Qualcomm will solve it for 8 elite 6.

[wintry mountain]

The 8 Elite throttles in Samsung phones cause they don't cool it properly

[still ember]

Phone usually don't have active cooling.

[wintry mountain]

You can see yourself on Ryan Retro's channel. The 8 Elite got awful performance on his phone, but then on his Odin 3 it was great

[wintry mountain]

That's why RedMagic are the GOATs

[still ember]

even water cooling. usually i buy y700 lenovo from aliexpress as the mini tablet with good chipset are cheaper. but dont know whether y700 got good cooling system.

[wicked lance]

Not even @wintry mountain voted yes 🤣

Or even later 🫠

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-kirby-kirby-kirby-anime-blow-up-explode-gif-26085575

I'm a strong man in control of my impulses

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[ripe girder]

They yern for the O2P

[wintry mountain]

I have played hundreds of hours of Brotato on my Odin 2 Portal lol

Ground the original sticks down and had to buy some Sakura ones

Then ground those down 😅

I think i may have worn the inner ring and now it just grinds on any stick

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-omfg-oh-my-sweet-jesus-sweet-jesus-oh-my-gif-4946454

What do you do to your handhelds 🤣

[wintry mountain]

I do wonder if most people don't move the stick all the way to the edge or something

But yeah i played A LOT of Brotato and that's basically just only controlled with the left stick

[wicked lance]

Copper heat system. No active cooling. Essentially big heatsink. I have Gen 2, 3 and 4 all stay pretty cool

I will likely get Gen 5 once on AliE 😅🫠

[wintry mountain]

Waow one person voted yes!!

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bang-theory-hallelujah-can-i-get-gif-22145348

[nimble isle]

Davids alt

[ripe girder]

Silvia

[nimble isle]

Same thing

[still ember]

https://youtube.com/shorts/wDIPmk_qqck?si=yoyGbRsK5W0HHKz5

That's why Mangmi is screwed as they obtain their ddr4 ram at high prices.

[undone lynx]

My answer to that one would have been no but I'm abstaining because the answer to the implied question of "Were you ever within the target audience for this device?" is also no.

[winged meadow]

And unless things somehow get better soon, it’s gonna be the same with a lot of other new handheld releases.

[nimble isle]

David secretly trying to make people think that everything will get even more expensive than pocket max so they should buy the mangmi now

Sneaky mf

But I see your tricks

Not today David mangmi

[worn bay]

We need david to hype man more of magicx's devices into existence

[frail summit]

He'd honestly be really suited for that role

[mystic jetty]

Ive noticed performance throttling is worse when the fold 7 is folded, but is quite a bit cooler when unfolded

I was running where winds meet at pretty high settings and max fps, was getting hot, I unfolded it and continued gaming and saw the temps Drop

The Samsung versions of snapdragon having higher clock speeds probably doesn't help with the heat either?

[vital brook]

May be the last handheld we'll buy before WW3 kicks in , chose wisely

[nimble isle]

I already escaped russian draft what's one more

If I fail to escape the ww3 draft I will make sure to send sexy pocket dmg pictures from the frontlines in the #🏆│device-showcase

We are now 2 to 22, another person voted yes

[vital brook]

@nimble isle Are you Russian ? My grandfather was too.

[dire charm]

Looks great in black, dang

[frail summit]

409 views in 8 hours

Everyone saw the price and Nope'd out of existence

[ripe girder]

Number of units Mangmi will sell

[frail summit]

This is just sad

[ripe girder]

https://tenor.com/view/kenny-smile-mic-beard-happy-gif-16593614452332912947

[hidden ember]

I might have missed it but does the super early bird bonus also apply to international purchases too? (Not the price but I thought I saw an included case as well)

[nimble isle]

Yes, moved to the UK 8 years ago

[civic ore]

well, at least we can dispell the idea that Mangmi is Moorechip

because AYN ruthlessly killed it

[jade garnet]

But it’s a cheaper gba machine at least

[worn bay]

-# Deploying the tactical One 35

[still ember]

AnTuTu v9
Odin 2 Portal (Snapdragon 8 Gen 2): ~1,280,000
Retroid Pocket 5 (Snapdragon 865): ~670,000
AnTuTu v10
Odin 2 Portal: ~1,510,000
Retroid Pocket 5: ~800,000 (estimated range)
Geekbench 6 – Single Core
Odin 2 Portal: ~1,980
Retroid Pocket 5: ~430
Geekbench 6 – Multi Core
Odin 2 Portal: ~5,270
Retroid Pocket 5: ~1,310
GPU (Adreno generation)
Odin 2 Portal: Adreno 740
Retroid Pocket 5: Adreno 650
Raw performance ratio (approx.)
CPU: ~3–4× faster (Odin 2 Portal)
GPU / overall: ~2× faster (Odin 2 Portal)

[flint quiver]

Do the Early Birds orders get the Bag and or the Screen Protector at least?

[still ember]

Therefore people choose odin 2 portal base for 50 dollar more over pocket max can understand.
you get 3-4 time faster cpu
and 2 time better gpu.

[still ember]

Dont have this time round. I think this Super early bird they barely earn any profit.

Rp5 has same soc as Pocket Max.

[ripe girder]

David is mangmi's biggest naysayer now

[still ember]

The $199 "Super Early Bird" price for the MANGMI Pocket Max has received a mixed reception because the market finds it less compelling than it first appears. The timing puts it directly against a stronger competitor on sale, and the core chipset is considered dated for the price.

Here are the main factors, based on reviews and industry analysis:

Primary Issue: Bad Market Timing & Competition
A key competitor, the AYN Odin 2 Portal, recently started a major sale, dropping its price to around $250. This device uses a much more powerful Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chip. For about $50 more, buyers get significantly better performance, making the Pocket Max's value proposition less clear.

Core Problem: Perceived "Last-Gen" Performance

· Chipset: The Pocket Max uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon 865. While capable, this is a processor from 2020.
· Performance Gap: The competing Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 offers a "sizable jump" in performance, often over 2x in benchmarks, for modern Android gaming and demanding emulation.
· Market Perception: It is seen as lagging behind newer devices like the Retroid Pocket 6, which competes in a similar price range.

Offsetting Strengths (The Trade-Off)
The $199 price is a trade-off. You get impressive features for the cost, but they come with the older processor:

· Premium Display: A 7-inch 144Hz OLED screen, rare at this price.
· Modular Controls: Offers swappable button modules (an extra $12 for clicky ones).
· Full-Size Sticks: Features full-size, drift-resistant analog sticks.

In short, the $199 price is not seen as a major bargain because it buys you a premium screen and controls built around an older-generation chipset, at a time when more powerful alternatives are available for slightly more money.

If you are considering this device, what matters more to you: having the absolute best performance for newer games, or getting a larger, high-quality screen for retro gaming and streaming at a lower entry cost?

[nimble isle]

How did we go from the poetry to AI summary of the situation we already know

[frail summit]

The fall off needs to be studied

[still ember]

Is it really tough for Mangm?
They need to go back to drawing board to design 3rd handheld and move on. Hope it will not financial failure and break this new Company. Mangmi did release a very good debut Pocket Air X.

[nimble isle]

What was bro typing for so long, there are bold parts of the text we know you copied it straight from LLM chat

[nimble isle]

The day hasn't even started but it's already ruined

Thanks David

[still ember]

Mangmi need to learn from it.
They release a handheld where there are ram shortage causing them to raise selling prices. Furthermore, they try to release handhelds that are Retroid/Ayn segment ( around 200 dollar handheld). Worse of all, Ayn take this opportunity to whack Mangmi by lowering base model to 250 ( Ayn really take the glove off against pocket max ).
It is important that Mangmi will survive. Most important, they must put extra effort in the QC for pocket max to ensure that the handheld really is good.
Yes, it has better ergonomics and TMR joystick compare to odin 2 portal. But the rest of the specifications, the odin 2 portal is much better for 50 dollar extra.

[nimble isle]

David

I hate to be the one to tell you

This shit won't sell

The interest is completely gone after the price was announced

It's over

It's done

Let it go

There will be other handhelds

Maybe not from mangmi but who knows

Using the word "powerful" for a $240 sd865 handheld is crazy work tho

I think this could be the worst price to performance we have seen in this space for months

[wispy plaza]

what about price per square inch of screen

[digital igloo]

They were calling it "flagship" in the initial reveal/tease before taking it down

[fossil iris]

What is the stability on phones for GPU tests? The gains probably fades away when you are thermal throttled VS an active cooled solution that can dissipate 20W 8 elite

[flint quiver]

The $5 coupon that worked for the Air X would that work for this?

[north flower]

Most phones from what I've seen usually have 50-60% stability so yeah still worse than something like the odin 3. With stuff like the redmagic 11 or tablets they'll probably be on par

[obsidian granite]

Well it is Mangmi's flagship

[flint quiver]

I was undecided on the wall for this even after the price announcement but ya'll are convincing me not to buy this.

[cedar sail]

People behaving like they own shares in mangmi

[obsidian granite]

I was off the hype train when the modular controls were announced but the price definitely killed it even more

[flint quiver]

TBH I am looking for a 7" ~$200 device with a nice screen to play PS1 and below, I have old eyes. Thought this would be the one to get.

[frail summit]

Yea the modular buttons definitely blunted the spear

[hidden ember]

Same boat, this seems like a good device. Priced a little high and they may have waited a bit too long to release but that doesn’t change the fact that it does what you want.

[mighty birch]

Its just that the Odin Portal is also 7inch can do so much more for only $50 more.

You could also get a 5.5 inch screen that will play PS1 and below for less than 100

[hidden ember]

Yes, but portal is better value but you’re paying 25% more.

If you just want to stream GeForce now and play PS2 under it does what you want

[tough fulcrum]

My only issue with getting the Odin portal is now that they've discontinued the mini and og Odin 2, im wondering how long until the portal is gone and we get the Odin 3 portal and mini

[flint quiver]

I have the Air X 🙂
Feel I need something bigger 🙂

[hidden ember]

I also have the RP5 with dual screen and a Z1 Extreme ROG Ally were both in the same spot lol

[mighty birch]

The Odin 3 Portla is definitely coming but that has a completely different processor and will be much more expensive. So its not even a fair comparison

With rising cost, You can expect Odin 3 portal to start close to 400...

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah I agree that the portal 2 is the better buy than the Mangmi, but would I buy the portal 2 and then just upgrade in 3 months?

[mighty birch]

Again not the same class of devices. Odin 2 portal is SD8G2 and cost 250. Odin 3 Portal is 8Elite and will cost 400+

[hidden ember]

The Odin 3 Portal is what I want. I want to play some PS3 Madden and NCAA Revamped mods

[mighty birch]

Yea if you want the Odin 3 portal then wait

[hidden ember]

Just don’t know how far off stable ps3 emulation on Android is

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah that's what Im saying, is the Odin 2 sale a canary for the odin3 portal being announced or what. I just wish they'd say something

[mighty birch]

I think they aren't making the Odin 2 Portal any more.

They never said that officially but thats what I expect. What ever inventory they have left is it

[still ember]

it will start at maybe 450 dollar started with 12G model.

[tame bramble]

I'm in the same boat. I decided to try an Ambernic 476 for the screen size and 4:3. I have the Air X and that's also great, although Ambernic's stock setup sucks and GammaOS seems tricky to install safely (I may be wrong about it, I don't have the balls to try).

[still ember]

I think 8G ram no point especially 8 elite chip focus on gamehub.

[still ember]

No you can buy it , 5 dollar will work. Since you wanted to play ps1 games. 7 inches for this price at 194 will be good.

No need odin 2 portal for your use case and it got inferior joystick and ergonomic pocket max is better.

Hope you support Mangmi by getting pocket max. It need every little support.

[still ember]

Way to go, there are now 5 votes for Pocket Max.

[jade garnet]

Ohhh

https://youtu.be/RRW_UTLTnVo?si=whasDxI7_HZz-B4j

[still ember]

#1448862795788582922 message

[flint quiver]

Same for me. I'm waiting for the RG476V if that ever happens. I heard some folks bricked their devices when flashing GammaOS.

[flint quiver]

Will they include carrying case at least?

[still ember]

This time round no. I think the SEB price for pocket max is breakeven price, they may possibly make a loss for every SEB set.

[flint quiver]

For PS1 and below I think all Stock OS work great.

https://x.com/RetroGameCorps/status/2018549450852196735?s=20

Retro Game Corps (@RetroGameCorps)

Looks like the Mangmi Pocket Max will start at $199 when it launches later this week. Mine just arrived so I’ll work to have a video out by the launch date.

X · Feb 3, 2026, 4:57 AM

RGC's review will be important to make a purchase decision.

His review unit just came in.

[still ember]

Oh no, Russ will compare odin 2 portal with Pocket Max at the end of the video.

[ripe girder]

[deep vector]

Why are y'all trying to give this device false hope?

https://tenor.com/view/stop-already-dead-kristen-msm-jokes-over-burger-gif-15769364

[wintry mountain]

Do you think Mangmi will find me and kill me if I use a diff email address to get another $5 coupon

[deep vector]

David will come to your house and attack you

[wintry mountain]

i'm ready to fight

[vast coral]

That was an entertaining read

[fossil iris]

Don't just buy to support a company, buy a product because it suits your needs and is good value compared to the competition.

[still ember]

It is okay. They really need your support.

You buy Pocket Max
if you wanted 7 inches ( cheapest big screen price point) and good TMR joystick.
If you only wanted ps2/gc/3ds games and below.
You wanted PC streaming
switch and gamehub will be bonus.

You buy Odin 2 portal.
Dont mind the extra 50 dollar.
You also wanted 7 inches screen
but you want better performance
for switch and gamehub.

You buy Rp6.
dont mind extra 30 dollar.
But has smaller 5.5 inches screen
but in exchange for better emulation for switch and gamehub.

From this list, I think Pocket Max is still worth for SEB prices.

[digital igloo]

Did you use AI to draft the above?

[vast coral]

David's reliance on AI to argue his points is funny 🤣

[still ember]

No it is all my thoughts.

[fossil iris]

I just don't see how needing to support should influence a customer's buying decision. It has a place on the market, just a very niche one and a tight one value wise. For some it will make sense, for the majority, not really and mangmi themselves know it.

[wintry mountain]

David they need YOUR support and you only voted "undecided" on my poll

[still ember]

Mangmi first handheld was great.
Their 2nd handheld is quite beautiful Pocket Max, but it was release at the wrong time.
Hopefully they can survive this as I believe the sale volumes for their 2nd handhelds will not be great.
But they are good company, I hope that they will survive and produce a better 3rd device.
I can only pray 🙏 for their survival. It is Survival of the Fittest in this Retro Handheld world.

[still ember]

I have to be honest, I am undecided as I dont like chipset S865 as I need handheld at least can do switch Emulation.

[digital igloo]

From the official mangmi discord, I think they already have their own hardcore supporters, so it's ok

[wintry mountain]

I dunno even the mod in there isn't hyped for this lol

[full heath]

Does anyone know what bitrate was used for the 1080p Artemis test?

[wintry mountain]

Which Artemis test? Stubbs' one?

[full heath]

Yep, Stubbs’ one.

[wintry mountain]

Probably the default, but wait 'til it's a more reasonable time in the US and then tag him, I'm sure he'll tell you

FWIW I find the default value to be perfect, no issues using it at 1080p 120fps on Odin 2 Portal or Odin 3. I've had more issues when trying to max it, even though my local network is capable of those speeds.

[full heath]

On my Odin 2 pro, i usually do around 80mbps in either 1080p60 or 1440p60 as I found it was a good middle ground between decoding latency and image quality. It would be awesome if the mangmi could do at most around 6ms average decoding latency at that bitrate

[wintry mountain]

Do you notice a difference in image quality between 1080p and 1440p when streamed to the Odin 2's 1080p screen?

[full heath]

Yeah, believe it or not, the image is clearer in 1440p downscaled to 1080p than a native 1080p stream, to my eye at least. It’s not huge but noticeable

[nimble isle]

I stream to the Astra 2560x1600 decoding is between 5-9ms on average

I don't notice any lagging but it could be because I play single player RPGs, reaction time is irrelevant

[wintry mountain]

I just have Artemis/Apollo set up to match the res/hz of my Android device, one of the beauties of that setup over Sunshine/Moonlight. Never really thought to try streaming at a higher res 🤔

[wintry mountain]

You should be getting way better on an Astra man. Are you using the 2.4Ghz band or something?

Like you should be getting near zero decoding times on an Astra, that's what I get on Odin 3, albeit using the 6Ghz band

[nimble isle]

Not sure, to be honest I don't know what I am doing

It says on the top something like 5/0.5 something

[wintry mountain]

Do you have your bands split on your router?

[nimble isle]

I don't know my dad does the WiFi, I will ask

[wintry mountain]

Even if it's not a wifi 6/6e/7 router, you should still be able to split 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz

[wintry mountain]

If you only have the one wifi connection at your house then it's likely a combined 2.4Ghz/5Ghz band, where the router will decide for you whether your device gets 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz. Could be it's only giving your Astra the 2.4Ghz one

In reality i'm sure 5-9ms decoding time isn't very noticeable anyway lol

[nimble isle]

The settings I used are 120fps, HVEC, 90 bitrate, 2560x1600, I clicked the fast decoding thing for sd chips in the settings

Pc is connected with the ethernet cable

[nimble isle]

I will look into it on the weekend

[wintry mountain]

That's an Odin 3, same chip as your Astra. I have to wait a while to even see it go to 0.01ms average decoding times

[narrow heart]

For Redmagic Astra, switch to Diablo mode to get under 1ms decoding time

[nimble isle]

I was in diablo mode because otherwise refresh rate is unstable and stream is lagging

Any other mode and refresh rate fluctuates between 117 and 120

[south dagger]

Do they sell a screen protector and protective case/bag for this?

[digital igloo]

Yes， check the accessories

[wintry mountain]

For local streaming?! I would have thought it could do that on the lowest power setting

[nimble isle]

The panel has an issue where refresh rate fluctuates like crazy on any other mode. If you put in diablo it stabilises itself to around 120.27 and only fluctuates around 0.01

It's an issue with every unit, a lot of info on this on Reddit and even a video demonstration

[wintry mountain]

That sucks

Would have expected better from RedMagic. That tablet's been out like 7 months too right? Plenty of time for them to fix it

[nimble isle]

There is no alternative for oled powerful tablet tho

We take what we can get

You buy this or lego 2

And Lego 2 is £900

[vast coral]

and thats just the 512gb version

that is a frustrating problem tho

[deep vector]

David must be down

[wintry mountain]

He didn't even vote yes!

[deep vector]

Even David didn't vote for it

Pocket Max is cooked

[jade garnet]

Yeah not getting this since I have the steam deck

[frail summit]

I voted undecided iirc

[wintry mountain]

Time for wild speculative panic. Mangmi have removed this from their FAQ.

I've emailed them to ask if preorders are still being sent within 24-48 hours

[vast coral]

so it begins 😄

[frail summit]

Maybe they do what Nintendo did for the 3DS

See that fucking no one is buying it and slash the price drastically

[wintry mountain]

3DS Ambassador hell yeah

[frail summit]

Mangmi Ambassador

[wintry mountain]

When i grow up i wanna be a Mangmi Ambassador

[frail summit]

Well son you're gonna have to purchase their entire inventory worth of modules for that to happen

[umbral rampart]

Pocket Max was doomed from the start. Can't go in a pocket. Need JNCO jeans, one pocket for Max and one for all the modular buttons you won't use

[deep vector]

The Modular Buttons are extra

[sturdy dove]

mangmi can keep their pocket max in their pocket

[nimble isle]

Mangmis pockets are going to be empty if this is their max

[grim kernel]

What’s the consensus on pocket max ive not been up to speed

[mighty birch]

Too expensive

[frail summit]

Retail price sucks peen

[vast coral]

great device but wrong price basically

[deep vector]

If the device was $150, it would be a no brainer

[whole gust]

I think they might be betting on different markets that may have a hard time buying from ayn and retroid, like brazil

[deep vector]

I think they were expecting the Portal to still be at $300

[whole gust]

they offer a different (and expensive) shipping that covers import taxes

[deep vector]

Ayn lowering the price kinda screwed them over

[whole gust]

so to some countries like brazil getting one of these would cost as much as buying a rg476h with coupons and discounts from AliExpress

[frail summit]

Even if it was at 300 the PM is still 240 retail

60 bucks more gets you the same device with a better chip minus the fluff

[deep vector]

Yeah but Super Early Bird is $200

Which would make it a $100 difference

[frail summit]

For 72 hours iirc

[deep vector]

Yep

[nimble isle]

865 bad, modules bad, price bad, too short early bird bad, David's poetry nonexistent, Odin 2 portal base at 250 ordered

[frail summit]

*David's poetry fell off actually

[nimble isle]

He switched from poetry to AI breakdown

If anyone wants someone to blame for 900 dollar ram

Blame David

[deep vector]

https://tenor.com/view/david-scream-marmot-david-scream-gif-3449357644506545335

[flint quiver]

A bit much don't you think?

[mystic jetty]

Nice to see there's still activity here 😂

Time for me to move on to the RG Vita anbernic is cooking up

[nimble isle]

We migrate like birds

When chat gets cold we move

[frail summit]

Brother if only you knew

[mystic jetty]

Oh you weren't kidding 😂😂 it's gonna be in fun there, let me see if I can rope David in

[mystic jetty]

Looks like a shit show in there too man

[wintry mountain]

No those are pretty normal prices I think...

Not the fake full prices, but the fake sale prices, they're what i'd expect

[nimble isle]

@wintry mountain I just found out about the WiFi, we have WiFi 5 and the router doesn't support 6/6E. Could this be the reason that I get higher latency than you?

Its the same joined network they support 2.4 and 5ghz WiFi, my tablet shows 5

[mystic jetty]

I bought myself a WiFi 6 router two months ago. Much better connection now regardless of my location at home

[nimble isle]

Oh I use ethernet most of the time the actual WiFi is only relevant to me for game streaming, I get 5-9ms deciding at the moment and I can't feel the lag at all. If Vodafone will upgrade me for free then I will surely do it, if I have to pay over £50 for the router then I can live with my 5ms just fine

[wintry mountain]

Yeah deffo, but even things like the Logitech G Cloud and PlayStation Portal only support Wifi 5 too

That's good that your tablet's showing 5 at least

[nimble isle]

I will ask Vodafone if they can send me an upgrade for free tomorrow

[wintry mountain]

Cool, you must have had that Wifi 5 router for a while! Bout time they got you a more modern one

But yeah like you say, you can't feel any lag even at 5-9ms, I doubt I would either tbh. It's just nice to see the low numbers lol

[nimble isle]

2-3 years or so, the house was new and the router was already there

[wintry mountain]

I set my ISP's router into modem mode and then plugged that into a separate dedicated Wifi 7 router, but you can't do that with all of them

[nimble isle]

I probably could but again if the gain is something I can't really feel why even bother

[wintry mountain]

Yeah deffo cause it would be an extra expense to buy your own wifi router

[nimble isle]

Just tested on my phone

[wintry mountain]

I just got really into learning about this stuff during the Playstation Portal launch, and then more when Artemis/Apollo came out, that I just had an itching to get a dedicated router lol

[nimble isle]

That's in my room over WiFi, ethernet is over 500

[wintry mountain]

Yeah that's your internet speed, even if it was bad, it wouldn't affect the speeds on your local network

But it's good that you're still getting those speeds on wifi, means the connection is decent from your room to your router

[nimble isle]

My room is directly above the storage closet where the router is

[wintry mountain]

Perfecto!

[nimble isle]

Used to be much worse in the old house where I would get 1 bar in my room

And the mobile network was at E

I was reading more than I was gaming because anything online just sucked ass

[wintry mountain]

Yeah if vodaphone can get you wifi 6 that would be better, but top prize would be 6e or 7 - that will give you access to the 6Ghz band. You could split that apart from the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands and just have your Astra connected to it and nothing else

[nimble isle]

It's £100

Or maybe even £150

Router costs more than the pocket max

[wintry mountain]

Yeah not worth it

Just turn the stats overlay off in Artemis and forget i ever mentioned the decoding times 😅

[mystic jetty]

Fair enough, I'm an ethernet man my self but ofcourse want good WiFi for my handhelds. I know in England, Internet can really vary depending on area to area.

Like I have access to 2gb speeds, but 4 streets away my friend doesn't 😂

[nimble isle]

I used to have high download speeds in my student accommodation

But when I moved back home I literally couldn't tell the difference

Anything over like 200-300 I can't tell with what I usually do

[wintry mountain]

Jealous, most I can get is 1gb. That said, I updated to that from 80mb lol so it felt amazing.

[mystic jetty]

80 to 1gb ooooft

[wintry mountain]

You see some of these american youtubers and they can get 10gb internet

[mystic jetty]

It's handy for me because I delete and reinstall games on steam alot

[nimble isle]

I torrent games and updates so they are capped at like 15mb/s with the VPN turned on. Crunchyroll and YouTube load just fine. I don't really know what the bigger speeds are for to be honest

[mystic jetty]

20ish mb is what's recommended for like neflix/amazon 4k content right? Should be fine on those speeds

Netlix bit rate is capped at lily 15-17mb

[wintry mountain]

Yes but bigger number is bigger 😌

[nimble isle]

I don't even have a single device with 4k resolution

My astra is now the highest resolution device I have

I need to check the laptop too hold om

[mystic jetty]

For a second I was thinking vauxhall astra

And thought, they suck!

[mystic jetty]

If you ever decide to save up for a TV or something, the LG Oled models can get quite cheap these days

[mystic jetty]

I'm a hatchback guy myself tbh

Had the same car for 11 years

[frail summit]

Hatchbacks are cute

[wintry mountain]

I was about to say this yeah, this year @nimble isle , on Black Friday, it is time to get the previous years' LG C model. I imagine the C6 comes out this year, so there should be good deals on the C5

Best TVs evar

[nimble isle]

I think my Lenovo duet 5 is 2560x1600 so almost the same as the astra

[nimble isle]

It's in the plans when I get a mortgage in 2-3 years, saving for a deposit

The dream is to put a huge TV in front of the double bed and just play with a controller

[wintry mountain]

Psh mortgages don't come in 4K res

Nah smort, fair play

[nimble isle]

Guess the resolution of the TV in the house rn

[mystic jetty]

I have a remote that pops out a TV from my bed 🙈

[nimble isle]

It's older than my brother

[mystic jetty]

1080i

[nimble isle]

Holy

[wintry mountain]

Oh man if you're asking then i guess it's lower than 1080p

[nimble isle]

720p I am pretty sure

[mystic jetty]

I promise I'm not rich, I found the bed for £160 and it came with a pop up TV thing 😂 max it will fit is 42inch though

[nimble isle]

It's used exclusively to play my brother's switch oled and a loop of a fireplace video

[wintry mountain]

You used to see those on MTV Cribs lol

Did ozzy osbourne used to own your bed

[mystic jetty]

When I picked it up, dude lived in a huge house but I was just glad he got rid of it as cheap as he did for it's size and quality

My I have an lg cx downstairs since 2020, absolutely love it

Previous gen LGs can be found on black Friday from as low as 600.I'm sure

[jade garnet]

Mangmi Pocket mini when? 5 inch Oled handheld

[wintry mountain]

Legendary TV, that's what I've got too

Plus I got it from John Lewis who did a 5 year warranty, and like 4 1/2 years into its life I got the panel replaced cause i got some dead pixels round the edge, and then the main board went so got a new one of those too, so i basically have a brand new TV now hehe

All for free from the JL warranty

[mystic jetty]

I was going to say, every person I know utilises this Method to get a new TV 😂😂

Still no issues with mine, but I plan to move in a year or so, so I'd want a new one and this to go upstairs

[acoustic tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-the-cycle-frontier-the-cycle-frontier-hop-on-the-cycle-frontier-gif-26888181

[weak hazel]

So its a Ayn Portal for 200 dollar and less performance?

wtf

[slender silo]

Or you could look at it as a cheaper G Cloud.

[weak hazel]

that too

[flint quiver]

If RGC says this is more ergonomic than the Odin 2 Portal that might be a decent reason to get this for me.

[umbral rampart]

Now with free modules

[flint quiver]

Can't seem to remove that $5.69

My Mangmi Pocket Max estimate is $$226
Which includes a $10 case and $16 shipping US

[solemn hollow]

https://youtu.be/uUjYezvkst0?si=KthhxaZHrNPffuiJ

[tough fulcrum]

That might change my mind tbh

[tame bramble]

Same.

[mighty birch]

You have to remove it from your cart. You cant do that once you go to check out page

[flint quiver]

I removed it from my cart but it automatically adds itself back

[mighty birch]

You have to uncheck the bottom left.

where It says worry free

[flint quiver]

ah found it

[still ember]

Are you buying Pocket Max or Odin 2 portal?

[flint quiver]

Mostly going to buy the Pocket Max tomorrow.
Hoping RGC video says good things about the ergonomics and comes out before then.

My justifications for my use case are;

Cheapest 7" OLED screen device for lower end systems.

[still ember]

Good, you know what, you are the few people that choose to buy this handheld at launch. For your use case, you wanted bigger screen to play ps1 games. This one will serve your needs. Not need to pay extra 50 for odin 2 portal.

[flint quiver]

Given that AI has convinced humans to feed it more RAM and Storage I think things are only going to get more expensive from here on out for the foreseeable future.

[still ember]

Thats why Mangmi Pocket Max has such a difficult launch as they paid high prices for rams and storage.

[flint quiver]

Don't know if I should feel bad for them

What can I say but capitalism.

[still ember]

Yes, this is life.
Survival of the fittest.

[ripe girder]

[hardy monolith]

For me the problem with that is it lacks the upper d pad. With the stick placement it has to be more focused on its ps2 and beyond performance and because of that I feel sd865 is to much of a drop off from 8g2

If it had a modular swap of some sort it would’ve rocked that niche

[digital igloo]

Hope to see more reviews during this 7 day period

[flint quiver]

I see your point, my view is there is almost no 7" out there with upper dpad I guess they're targeting streaming audience. Minor inconvenience to me but I do play half my titles with a stick. 🙂

[hardy monolith]

Fair lol I am a pretty big stick enjoyer on a lot of dpad centric old games tbh

[flint quiver]

I use dpad on platformers and pokemon / 2d rpgs.
shmups and 3d titles are stick for me.

[hardy monolith]

I’ve always been trolled for preferring megaman with sticks 🥹

[flint quiver]

Yeah I can't do that. BTW I saw Stubbs playing castlevania with Sticks on the RPF2. 😬

[still ember]

Furthermore 7 inches will give good emulation for 3ds and ds emulation as large screen estate.

[flint quiver]

David, Do you work for Mangmi?

If you don't mind me asking.

[still ember]

Honestly, As S865 still give good emulation from ps2/gc and 3ds and below.
You are okay with some playable (50 percent of the library ) switch games and indie gamehub games.
This is still a good 7inches handheld for retro/android and streaming.

[still ember]

I dont and vote undecided in the poll. But I hope Mangmi can survive to produce a good 3rd handheld. I have air X and it is my daily driver :).

[flint quiver]

Yeah I will definitely use it for N64, PS2 and GC.

[flint quiver]

The Air X and the Pocket Air Mini are are my daily drivers and are great devices.

[flint quiver]

Rumor is that Mangmi's 3rd Device will be a vertical GB/GBC style Linux Handheld Device like the Retroid Pocket Classic but sub $100. 🤞

[still ember]

Yes both are really good devices. Air X was really amazing that why the launch was well received.
Pocket Air Mini trying to compete and at the end it is a tie.

Competition bring better devices. Ayn is trying to kill off this company with odin 2 portal.

[flint quiver]

Are you going to buy the Pocket Max tomorrow?

[still ember]

Still thinking waiting for retro corp review

[nimble isle]

It's crazy how we dog on this device for weeks, dog on the price and then they throw a useless module in the bundle and suddenly people are buying

[cursive glacier]

Mangmi is back!

[still ember]

It is because after you minus the magnetic module at 20 usd, the handheld magically become 180 USD which is similar to the poll conducted that 160, 180 is the launch prices users aceepted.

[nimble isle]

I am sorry what

It's still 199

+shipping

You just get a module with it that multiple reviewers said they don't need because they prefer retro feeling controls

The price didn't go down

You just get a fidget with your handheld now

[still ember]

I understand, but some think since I need the modules they now realize the price they are paying is more reasonable now.

[wicked lance]

Tbh those modules should be free regardless imo. Not just early bird. You make a big deal about a feature and then charge for it 😅

[cursive glacier]

this tips it for me, I’m probably buying when it’s on sale

I wanted the modules but the pricing didn’t make sense

I dunno how I ended up this month with a pocket max and a portal

[nimble isle]

Your fomo makes me sick to my stomach

[cursive glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-catch-em-all-gif-5662253

[undone lynx]

The existence of the modules have negative value (additional point of failure) for anyone not interested in the feature (which is most people, let's be honest). This solves absolutely nothing.

[vast coral]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-gif-10104807991349274331

[cursive glacier]

all we need now is free 50-100-200 grit sandpaper for the module pogo pins

[vast coral]

It's great to see david back to his usual weird totally not helped by AI rants 😄

[cursive glacier]

plot twist he works for ayn marketing

[wintry mountain]

Nice

[slender bear]

I still think he works for MagicX, he agreed too much with Luna about some controversial decisions xD

Also I found his IRL picture:

[nimble isle]

Looks clean af

[still ember]

poor luna

[wintry mountain]

What colour ya getting?

[cursive glacier]

the white one, let's see how I feel tomorrow

[wintry mountain]

I was thinking white too!

[solemn hollow]

I'm thinking I'll go black

[wintry mountain]

Makes the free modules an even better value cause the white and grey ones are $9 more than black for some reason lol

[solemn hollow]

Lol

[wintry mountain]

Correct choice for an OLED device tbf

I just fancy a change, most of my recent handhelds have been black

[solemn hollow]

And no borders when playing a different aspect ratio system

I go bold on dedicated devices, but black when I know I'll be playing a lot of different systems with different aspect ratios, especially if it's an oled

[wintry mountain]

That's from the Mangmi Discord mod after a few of us tagged the main Mangmi account asking

I hope it really is only a week and not a repeat of the Air X waiting times

[cursive glacier]

[wintry mountain]

I saw your deleted message

[cursive glacier]

https://klipy.com/gifs/side-eye-113

[nimble isle]

You guys still have time to contemplate your life choices

[wintry mountain]

I couldn't contemplate a cat

[tough fulcrum]

Oh that's really neat, Etsy buttons?

[umbral rampart]

https://youtu.be/zDlPCjdOaCM?si=HRVMlQ5oJdEGJO82

[cursive glacier]

weird, mangmi says it's 450g

[umbral rampart]

It's official, Pocket Max is dead

RGC: Portal 2 "no brainer"

Therefore, if you buy pocket Max you have no brain according to Russ. Only brains by Portal 2

Needs more grippage ffs

[ripe girder]

Lmao

[warm swallow]

did he order his 10 units yet?

[nimble isle]

For the absolutely insane amount of cope he put us through I think they should send him one for free

[warm swallow]

can't do that - he's gotta support the company

[cursive glacier]

brains got nothing to about buying mangmi, it’s all in the feels

[umbral rampart]

VIBES

[cursive glacier]

if you buy it early bird, then sell the modules after it becomes 180

now find someone who wants to buy the modules 😂