Mangmi Pocket Max

[obsidian granite]

[vast coral]

what did i miss

[distant sigil]

nothing

[dire charm]

Feb 11th is ETA, but its already in the US so i'm guessing sooner

[wintry mountain]

Cheers! A Spanish reviewer has had issues with the d-pad so just wondered if anyone else had received one yet

[dire charm]

Will be on the lookout for that!

[cursive glacier]

guess what restocked @wintry mountain

[solemn hollow]

What??

[wintry mountain]

I do declare

[cursive glacier]

very close to buying one

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-crazy-family-guy-fou-gif-11775947423386520412

[obsidian granite]

I'm almost tempted to cancel my Elite Fit and order this but already have a O2 so toomuch overlap

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[cursive glacier]

elite fit is march

feb you can get the portal

1 per month is not bad

https://tenor.com/view/huh-zoom-in-confused-itchy-gag-gif-16657987

[obsidian granite]

I know and can wait but if it's any longer will probably end up cancelling

[still ember]

Ayn is playing squid game with Mangmi
First Game.
Red light ( you dont move)
Green light ( you move)
Ayn version
odin2 Base Model
Red Light ( No stock )
Green Light ( Stock available)
This increase user FOMO
and instead of waiting for 2nd feb
They pull the trigger to buy odin 2 portal and abandon the thought of buying Pocket Max.
Game Over.

[frail summit]

How do I even respond to this 😭

[north flower]

I do kind of want an odin 2 portal ngl

Idk if I would ever actually use it though

[frail summit]

I wanna see if Retroid does a Flip 3

[vast coral]

join us 😄

[frail summit]

Don't give into his temptation

He's a devil in disguise

[still ember]

It is playing squid game
red light ( stock down)
green light ( stock up)
eventually you will give in to temptation (FOMO) and buy this odin 2 portal. ( it is really darm value for money !!! )

[vast coral]

I've had one for over a year sooo 😄 i dont need another

[still ember]

Yes, it is crazy, i witness the stock up, stock down close to 3/4 time within 2 days.

[ripe girder]

Ngl ayn cooked with this one

Pocket max DOA

[frail summit]

Nah

Always bet on Silvia

Never lose jope

[ripe girder]

Gen 2 3x faster than 865 you think pocket max gonna be 1/3 the price

Cmon man be serious

[frail summit]

Just keep believing

[ripe girder]

Bros a plant lol

[nimble isle]

I don't believe

[mighty birch]

You guys are just trying to pump David up so he crashes even harder when the time comes.

[frail summit]

I'm just using him as a lifeline since he has some hope I think

If he's gone I'm gone

[nimble isle]

Mangmis strongest soldier

There is no doubt

[mystic jetty]

😏😏😏😏

[civic ore]

I mean, if you are not in a hurry just wait, the Odin 3 Portal ought to be less than 3 months away

contrary to popular belief the Portal is not perfect and has glaring issues, like bad face buttons, small sticks for a big handheld, no ergo without the grip etc

these are bound to get fixed in the Odin 3 Portal

fwiw I just sold mine this week, I tried to love it but I never really enjoyed it

no one dares to say it because there's no better alternative, but it's a very imperfect handheld for what it wants to be

by contrast I have none of these issues with the Odin 3, that one is an easy handheld to love

which is why I'm confident it's better to wait for the Odin 3 Portal if you are not in a hurry

[nimble isle]

I mean

It's not like you cant upgrade if something better comes out later

eBay sales for used portal with full accessories are more than you pay for it brand new

So if you want something to use right now and possibly upgrade later

You are not losing anything, probably even making a bit of profit if we are being honest

[still ember]

Yes, I agreed with you. poor ergonomic and need to buy grips, change to bigger stick as you mention unlike the konkr fit and odin 3 where ergonomics is great out of the box.
But 80 dollar off, from 329 drop to 249 ( strange that pro and max only 30 and 50 dollar off )
It is laterally 25 percent discount for odin 2 portal.
With the beautiful large 7 inches Oled 120hz
and 8Gen2. It is an emulation beast far greater than the Pocket Max and also good streaming PC.
Yes pro outweigh the con.
FOMO.
Later, i believe base odin 2 portal again go out of stock soon.

[nimble isle]

One thing I can say is that the driver support for elite is not there yet, Odin 3 had some annoying coil whine in review units, not sure if it was fixed with the retail units but I would take loud buttons over annoying fan any day of the week

[still ember]

There are drivers already but may still need fine tuning. But 8Gen2 is still a premium chip.

[nimble isle]

With the ram prices being the way they are Odin 3 portal may be 400+ dollars for the base which would make Odin 2 portal a solid consideration if you are not looking for extra power for pc emulation which in my opinion is still waaaaay worse than game streaming

[still ember]

In my Honest opinion, 249 for odin 2 portal is a easy recommendation.

[nimble isle]

I watch those gamehub showcases doing 720p on low/medium keeping up 45 FPS and people are like wow that's so good. If you don't have any alternative sure go for it but as it stands right now you are only playing lightweight games on gamehub without compromises, anything AAA is going to be a compromised experience unless it came out a decade ago

Odin 3 portal is probably going to use the same screen as the 2 portal because there is no alternative. There will be 8 elite chip which is more powerful but this extra power is dependent on drivers which are only beginning to exist as of 2 weeks ago, need more time to cook. Sticks and better ergonomics are a valid argument and there will probably be an improvement but then how much extra are you willing to pay for this compared to base 2 portal which already does 70-90% of the average consumers needs and if you are not looking for pc emulation is arguably better for high end emulation because of better driver support

[still ember]

Currently, 7 inches screen devices are
Pocket DS - 399
Gcloud logitech handheld - 299 ( poor soc good ergonomic)
Pocket Max - price unknown ( rumour price maybe 199 but soc is aging S865)
Ayn odin 2 portal base - 249

When you take this list of 7 inches and compare.
Nothing beats the odin 2 portal for price to performance for the odin 2 base handheld.

[nimble isle]

Is gcloud oled?

I didn't know it used the same screen

No, it's LCD and it's 60hz

[still ember]

LCD gcloud. As it is Logitech brand, people will still buy it mainly for pc streaming.

[nimble isle]

At this point for streaming I would argue portal is better just because it's oled and 120hz

Grip is $15 too

Base portal with a grip is still cheaper than cloud

[still ember]

I think Grip is optional, some could still play odin2 portal without grip. As mentioned, some people find that it is okay without grip with long playtime.

[nimble isle]

Even for people who can play it without the grip it's probably still more comfortable with the grip

[still ember]

You really got a very good bargain with odin 2 portal.
You mention you are interested in Pocket Max
But odin 2 portal steals your heart away. Sad news for Mangmi

[nimble isle]

I was interested purely for game streaming and psp

But like

Why not just get the portal at this price

I am likely selling the portal in a few months anyway I just wanted to try it out before it inevitably gets discontinued for Odin 3 portal. I won't be upgrading to the 3 portal because I already have the Astra with the elite in it, so as soon as drivers mature a bit I can just sell the 2 portal and use astra for everything

[still ember]

It is really obvious that ayn is targeting at Mangmi, it can offer the base at like 289 or 279
but why 249!!! 80 dollar off.
I seldom see ayn give such a deep discount ever where odin 2 portal is still a good handheld. Demand is still there.

[still ember]

Yes that is a smart strategy.

[nimble isle]

My opinion that it's not only about the mangmi. I think that it's about the ram too

[still ember]

I know, with ram price increasing, ayn still offer deep discount. amazing.

[nimble isle]

I doubt we are seeing 8gb devices in the future because higher end pc emulation requires more and for lower end emulation Odin 2 basically already does everything, the ceiling is reached

[ripe girder]

back in stock! GOGOGO

[nimble isle]

What I really want to see from mangmi is air X with oled screen and a modern processor. As in no glass front, decent ergonomics, 5-6inch oled screen with bezels as small as possible, 8gen2 or slightly lower but not 865 that shit sucks

Basically Ayaneo pocket air but with more modern chip and black is all I want

[frail summit]

Sucks for your use case buster

[nimble isle]

I would buy the pocket air but it's only available in white unfortunately

[vital brook]

https://tenor.com/view/the-x-files-mulder-bored-bad-blood-gif-3842499772602307654

[solemn hollow]

[dire charm]

Stay tuned on our channel this Sunday

[ripe girder]

what channel?

[mystic jetty]

I noticed this when looking to resell certain devices. Like wait a minute, I paid less for this brand new

[vast coral]

Speak for yourself xD I've always used the portal without a grip and no complaints about ergo

[wintry mountain]

From the Spanish reviewer

[cursive glacier]

https://klipy.com/gifs/adrastea-rollercoster

[lusty widget]

https://youtu.be/frk3LtdUSH0?si=dqF5DEd4DQlYCnGe

First review. It looks quite nice! 👍🏻

[solar beacon]

Watching this made me realize the extra modules were in the case.... doh.

[ripe girder]

AI voice translation is crazy

[hexed fulcrum]

No that's TechDweeb's actual voice.

[mighty birch]

We sort of know everything about the Pocket Max since its comprised of parts we've seen elsewhere like SD865, 7inch Screen. We just need the price!

[north flower]

Reviews and no price is definitely something

[hexed fulcrum]

Love the end of the video : "it's either gonna be something, or maybe not".

[severe latch]

The battery life seems insane.

If so, it would be an amazing PS Portal/general streaming device alternative

[hexed fulcrum]

Or maybe not. 😂

[mystic jetty]

First review already out? But it's tech dweeb so imma have to skip 🙁

[hexed fulcrum]

Come on ! The Dweeb's pretty cool. 🙂

But seriously, you're not missing much on this one.

[solar beacon]

I like his videos, but putting this out without the price is very strange. We're literally getting pricing on Monday.

[hexed fulcrum]

The MPM is mostly a known quantity ; literally the only interesting question is the price, and nobody knows it yet.

[civic ore]

in the game of YouTube the first to publish takes it all

but yeah I agree that it makes more sense to review this with final price in mind

[narrow heart]

TechDweeb didn’t even come up with an original title for the Pocket Max video, which kind of shows how little he cares about this handheld

[north flower]

Review is in caps though

[slender silo]

Is it the best handheld ever released?

[winged meadow]

No, no he just sounds like that.

[dire charm]

Putting this thing through its paces. Will sum up initial thoughts tomorrow afternoon during my Pocket Max livestream

[civic ore]

is it good? give us a tease at least

[frail summit]

He's such a cocktease that Stubbs guy

[lost raptor]

I bet he will let you juggle his balls

[frail summit]

Just let me know

I do strange things for spare change

[dire charm]

I never tease, well except for this weekend

Just short on time, not trying to be toooo mysterious. I think you'll be pleased though. Only Rob can juggle balls!

Mine or others 😆

[mystic jetty]

Haha! No beef at all, but the voice goes through me

[dire charm]

It's frustrating the price is still a mystery

[dire charm]

Since we'll get both that and launch info Monday, holding off on a regular review. They are currently preparing inventory though, so sounds like happening quick here.

Comfy!

[daring solstice]

How comfortable is it playing it?

[dire charm]

Beats Portal for comfort

[daring solstice]

[dire charm]

Nice and chonky, but lightweight

[mystic jetty]

From the side by side image poster a few days ago of portal and pocket max, mangmi definitely looks more comfortable to hold and bigger sticks are always a lovely addition

Can't wait to not buy it

[dire charm]

It faces stiff competition if it's over $200, 7" OLED with high refresh rate and nice big joysticks help, sd865 is a no go over, at most, $225 (in my opinion)

[lone sandal]

It's a different form factor, but that RP6 is such a harsh price ceiling with the 8gen2

[daring solstice]

Lets not forget the Portal for 250

Which is even worse competition

[lone sandal]

It's very limited time, so it seems somewhat unrealistic to count it

[daring solstice]

Yeah, a full month tho isn't something to sneeze at tho

[dire charm]

Yeah I think a good way to look at it for the 7" form factor is for streaming, setup very nicely for that. Beats G Cloud, both ABXYlute handhelds, but not Portal or pocket evo.

Timing for that Portal sale is interesting

Software has some early days jank, but an update is available here. Defaults to 3 button gestured, threw me off for a sec

[ripe girder]

quick make a part sheet with 30% upsell

[slender silo]

To be fair, that limited time is ... exactly when people would be choosing between the Pocket Max and the Portal Base.

[still ember]

It must be below 200 dollar as ayn odin 2 portal is selling at 250 dollar.

[undone lynx]

...At this point I'm ready to place the DOA stamp of disapproval. You do not wait this long to reveal the price if the price is actually good, that or the marketing department is being stupid for no reason.

[ripe girder]

ayn came and took their lunch money

after retroid robbed them blind

[undone lynx]

I'd be happy to be proven wrong but this device lives and dies on being cheap enough to be appealing and if it was, Mangmi would have told us already.

[ripe girder]

If its not squarely in the 130-180 shipped its DOA

if you don't about the screen oyu get a RP6 if you do then you get a odin 2 portal

they got cooked

[undone lynx]

The Mangmi Air X had fairly low specs (compared to the top end, mind you, it's still a perfectly serviceable device) which was more than made up with good build quality and extremely low price. With the Pocket Max (which btw is a stupid name for a clearly unpocketable device ) they went with an upgraded version which is:

• Significantly bigger and therefore unappealing as an upgrade to anyone who got the Air X because it was small
• Not high spec enough to convince the owner of some other high end Android device to switch

What's left is the crowd that would like a high end device but find the current ones too expensive. If Mangmi is just being tight lipped for no good reason and they actually have an appealing price for this, then sure it'll be a successful device. But in the much more likely scenario that we're looking at something stupid like a $200+ device then it has no reason to exist and will be DOA.

[ripe girder]

Don't forget replaceable buttons for a non-premium device

(can't change sticks btw)

[undone lynx]

Pointless for exactly that second reason

If they actually commited to the idea and came up with a modular layout thing (hell, could even come with a 6 face buttons module while we're at it) then not only $200 would be a justifiable price but they would have a standout feature to argue putting it even higher.

That wouldn't be enough to convince me because I'm happy with my devices but I would definitely see the appeal in having a device that can switch between top and bottom stick on either side and have multiple options for button layouts.

Hell, put in a knob module for paddle controls and you might actually convince me.

[ripe girder]

Honestly they were basically cooked as soon as RP6 came out, but they still had the screen thing to hang their hat on, but after the portal discount they got severely cooked

The replacable buttons thing isn't convincing anyone to buy

[undone lynx]

Going for gimmick might have worked but they didn't commit enough for that to work

As it stands I'm expecting the modular thing to become a QC nightmare for no good reason

[ripe girder]

The only thing I can think is they are going to do a big "early bird" discount then raise the price as soon as portal goes out of stock/off sale

[undone lynx]

Because remember, adding more contacts and moving parts means more things that can fail. That's a headache I would be willing to deal with if the modular aspect was useful enough for me to actually make use of the feature.

It isn't, so I would only get the headache part.

Frankly I don't understand why they would even think to come up with this but at the same time not have the foresight to actually push it to a point where it's a useful feature.

The only thing I can think of is that they did try applying the module idea to the analog sticks but the module as-designed wasn't sturdy enough to reliably stay in contact under the movement of someone pushing the stick around and there wasn't any more R&D time before release to fix the issue so they dropped it.

The slightly less stupid long-term version of this is that they did think about it and are waiting to put it in a successor device with higher specs, like a Pocket Max 2 with an 8 Gen 2 or something

So around the time the 8 Elite driver support becomes mature enough to solidly cement itself as the best high end option (and the next bleeding edge SD option starts appearing on handhelds), they show up with an upgrade to this with still good enough specs for high end emulation plus the modular layout gimmick for it to stay relevant and at a lower price than the other devices.

That's a plan I could get behind.

[wintry mountain]

Damn those TechDweeb battery tests are amazing

[vast coral]

hearing gigglebytes is still annoying as heck 😄 well, at least we'll hear the price tomorrow

[wintry mountain]

There's only like 5 hours until tomorrow

[undone lynx]

I mean, presumably they're going to reveal the price during the working hours, their timezone, not at midnight

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-dance-sad-upset-cry-gif-14565584175077463670

[hexed fulcrum]

I always hears "gigobytes".

[hexed fulcrum]

Kinda like in Back to the Future when Doc Brown says "1.21 jiggowatts".

[mystic jetty]

I'll have whatever drugs you're having if you think 130 is in the cards

[frail summit]

Man this reminds me of the early days of the PM where people thought it would be around the 150s.

At least they had the excuse of not knowing the full specs

[severe latch]

With those specs I could see it being either $179 or $199 with an early bird price of $149 or $169.

If it's over that it won't be worth it.

[nimble isle]

169-179 is what I expected given the portal 2 sale

Apparently the replacement modules come in the box with the device

Which should also bump the price a bit

[vast coral]

i just dont see it going for that. I hope it will but 😄

[frail summit]

I mean maybeeee

Maybe up until the Portal sale ends that could be the price. And then after the sale they just bump it up to what was originally planned.

[nimble isle]

Base portal still in stock, only black model(the best one), they have no choice

[vast coral]

i mean there's always a choice 😄 if they don't, that's a choice. It'll backfire on them.

179 early bird and then higher for retail will prob work

[frail summit]

179 eb 190 retail

[still ember]

Yes, 179 is really a okay price.

[lusty widget]

My guess is $ 179 for early buyers and $ 199 after that. More than that is too expensive!

[frail summit]

200 flat is what I'm hoping the retail is

[still ember]

EB is the most important price point to create momentum for Mangmi .

[vast coral]

tomorrow is going to be fun 😄

[undone lynx]

169-179 would definitely be a reasonably appealing price for this... But I wouldn't hold out much hope for it being in that bracket. If it is, then great, but I don't see why Mangmi would be so cagey about revealing the price if they could actually price it well.

[civic ore]

it's not a good sign that they are dragging their feet this much on price reveal

[vast coral]

my guess is they had a plan ready to go, but tech prices continued to go to shit and forced a rethink. Maybe 😄

could be worse, they could be the KTR2 😄

[daring solstice]

KTR in general is just issues on issues

[ivory portal]

$229

[ripe girder]

DOA for sure

[nimble isle]

[ripe girder]

I’m not saying it will be that would be a reasonable price in this market tho. I think they are cooked.

[nimble isle]

Imagine 229 early bird bro

That would be more shocking than the latest Epstein file drop

[still ember]

Ayn odin 2 portal
7 inches oled 120 hz
8gen2
ddr5 8G ram
ufs 4.0 128G
wifi 7
bluetooth 5.3

Pocket Max
7 inches oled 144 hz
S865 chip
ddr4 8G ram
ufs 3.1 128G
wifi 6
bluetooth 5.1
magnetic module dpad and controls.

If odin2 base portal sold at 249 ( still in stock !!! )
How can pocket max with inferior spec sell above 200 dollar!!
the spec different should be more than 50 dollars.

[frail summit]

Literally no one would buy it

We have to wait till tomorrow to know for sure but with how things are going I'm banking sub 200 as EB, maybe 179 EB and 200 retail

[still ember]

my prediction 189 EB for 5 days unlimited. got 5 dollar discount.

[nimble isle]

Magnetic modules on the mangmi should be listed as a downside

[civic ore]

pretty tough spot for Mangmi

[vast coral]

im going to love the chaos when price is revealed

[civic ore]

above $200 is a hard sell, below $200 is unlikely with these specs

[vast coral]

gonna be so heartbreaking for the scene when most of us have too many devices already 😄

[civic ore]

I don't even want to buy this lol

I'm here for the drama

[nimble isle]

We need a wellness check on David after the price reveal

Police on speed dial

[civic ore]

he'll just claim fake news and proceed to buy a Portal

[nimble isle]

Textured caps and screen protectors sold out

[vast coral]

most of us dont want to buy it but most will because lack of willpower 😄

[civic ore]

after the Portal the next 7 incher Android has to be one with full blown ergonomics and controls for me

otherwise pass

this one is a step in the right direction with full size sticks, but I want to see bigger ergos

[mighty birch]

AYN is more established compared to Mangmi. AYN has better scales of economies/contracts to produce at a lower cost.

[still ember]

Ayn has more handhelds to generate revenue for them even if they dump ayn odin 2 portal near cost price.

for base model.

[tough fulcrum]

Were they only discontinuing the Odin 2, or was it also the mini and portal?

[vast coral]

its only the odin 2 thats being discontinued for now

[still ember]

due to ram shortage, ddr5 ram is really expensive.
Therefore, I believe that odin 2 portal series may not in production. Ayn will soon announce Ayn odin 3 portal I believe.

[jade garnet]

Whoa

https://youtu.be/frk3LtdUSH0?si=1IfoCNvc1xtN0Bli

pretty interesting so far

[mystic jetty]

I'm sorry but 130 is not reasonable. 180? Yeah sure. But giving a range of 130-180 is loco

But to each their own

[mystic jetty]

It'll be interesting ONLY after a price reveal

[ripe girder]

SD865 really cooks the price tbh can't slap lipstick on a pig

[jade garnet]

Yeah curious to see the price on this

[vast coral]

nice to know 865 is suddenly dogwater weak for some people 😄

[ripe girder]

I don't see it being less than $180 early bird

[jade garnet]

to be honest I wished the black joysticks are a bad design choice

the joysticks should be like beige or atleast Red would look way better

[mystic jetty]

Sure, but retroid still have rp5 listed at 199$, but we want 130$ for a device with the same chip but a WAY better screen and sticks? And unwanted modularity?

[ripe girder]

Its not that its weak its that RP6 which is 220.

[ripe girder]

Who is buying a RP5 at 199?

[jade garnet]

Like aya neo pocket air did it better imo

[mystic jetty]

But thsts what it's listed at?

[jade garnet]

RG CUBE even has the red joy sticks

[mystic jetty]

Pocket classic is listed at 100$

[ripe girder]

But thats not reasonable pricing, I'm not saying they will list it at a reasonable price, but with RP6 sitting at SOC 3x as fast and Odin 2 Portal with odin 2 portal at same price point with similar screen its cooked

[mystic jetty]

Mangmi did state their EB price will be 'substantially' cheaper than rrp though. Well just have to wait 1 more day and find out

[jade garnet]

imagine playing GBA games on that screen though

[jade garnet]

what's RRP?

[ripe girder]

I assume its RP6

[mystic jetty]

It is not reasonable but that's where it's priced, also rrp is recommended retail price

[vast coral]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-popcorn-gif-3983484043797832117

[ripe girder]

I think we agree I'm just not making my point clearly

[jade garnet]

Do you think we'll ever to see too medium sized handheds?

like alot of the 16:09 handhelds are slightly bigger than the medium sized handhelds we used to get

[mystic jetty]

I absolutely get what you mean btw, I'm just stating retroid should drop their rp5 prices because right now it is technically still 199$

Which yes, makes no sense when you consider the price of the g2 and rp6

180 would be fantastic, 130 is impossible

[jade garnet]

I liked the g2 more because of the switch lite colors

[mystic jetty]

Me? I'm waiting on RP7 / Odin 4 🙂

[mystic jetty]

Colours be cool but I couldn't care less for Nintendo

[jade garnet]

Ohh nice! I'm waiting on the RP 2 mini 2! I got impatient waiting ever since I saw the fan concept of it online

[mystic jetty]

I can no longer defend thst company

[jade garnet]

I can

[mystic jetty]

You can and you may, but they're evil corp

With garbage looking games

[jade garnet]

Ohh Speaking of Switch and Nintendo I should try getting a Switch lite so that I can emulate switch games and more portable playing indie gaming machine

[mystic jetty]

Pokemon 4th highest selling game franchise of all time, 500 million in sales... But wheres the voice actors?

[mystic jetty]

Meh, rather indie game on a superior device like rp5

[jade garnet]

True more portable but more clunkier compared to the switch for indie games

[mystic jetty]

Oh no, just better, In every single way

While being cheaper

[jade garnet]

It's not lol for convenience it's worse and you need to tinker with it

[mystic jetty]

Tinker with what? I click download, I press play, I enjoy on Oled full HD

[jade garnet]

Wish it was that easy

[mystic jetty]

It is 🙂

[jade garnet]

Not from my experience I remember struggling to run stardew valley might have to tweak the settings

[mystic jetty]

Struggling with stardew? Sounds like user error to me.

No issues on my side 🙂

[jade garnet]

Exactly that's why I said for convenience and less clunky experience I'd rather play with a switch lite for indie games

[mystic jetty]

I clicked download, I clicked play, it worked fine. I enjoy.

I'm confused on how you failed, but I guess humanity will never cease to amaze me

[jade garnet]

because gamehub is a clunky experience obviously

Same goes for Switch emulation

[mystic jetty]

Maybe last year? But every single game I've tried so far ran full speed bar none.

[jade garnet]

Though Gamehub is pretty impressive lets you play PC Games on the android makes me feel hopeful

[vast coral]

tad harsh that 😄

[jade garnet]

yeah has improved but looking at the steps to do switch emulation it makes me rather just buy an actual Switch despite the imoproved performance games

[mystic jetty]

Hey man on the rp5 I can choose to play stardew via Gamehub, switch (flawless on both) or even the android version 🙂

[mystic jetty]

Which steps? 🙂

[jade garnet]

all of it

[still ember]

Once Mangmi Pocket Max release
EB at 199 , Retroid will put rp5 at 179
EB at 189, rp5 will be on sale at 169.
rp5 sales will determine by the EB launch price of Pocket Max of it is less than 200.
with rp5 reduce price
with ayn odin 2 portal reduce price
rp6 at 229
I think Mangmi is cooked.

[ripe girder]

Brittany did nothing wrong

[mystic jetty]

All of. It?????? 😂😂😂

I was right in my assessment before

Yes you are the perfect client for a switch lite

I apologise for questioning you

[jade garnet]

yeah good reason why people usually recommend getting an actual switch for switch games

[mystic jetty]

What you doing in mangmi thread though?

[nimble isle]

You just uploaded the firmware and keys and dump your game on the SD card. Then you pick the driver in eden and go play

[mystic jetty]

Shouldn't you be in the switch or Nintendo section?

[nimble isle]

It's not even tinkering

[mystic jetty]

Thank you.

Those are the basics, if you don't want to do that, you are in the wrong hobby

[nimble isle]

If you can't set up eden you probably will need medical attention if you ever see the retro arch menu

[winged meadow]

RP6 is $230, the RPG2 is $220, RP5 is only $199 because it’s not on clearance yet (Flip 2 says it’s $180, but that’s because it’s using the D1100 price for that).

[jade garnet]

Hyped for this handheld a big budget device is up my alley

[mystic jetty]

Hyped for what exsvtly.

You will need to tinker 🙂

Why not stick to switch lite?

[vast coral]

some rather judgemental folks in here today huh 😄

[ripe girder]

yea mangmi is cooked

[undone lynx]

Ahem Clearly you're forgetting the step where you're dumping the firmware from your own Nintendo Switch after modding it... right?

[mystic jetty]

I was going to bring this up but I gave up

[jade garnet]

would rather tinker any thing but with switch emulation

[nimble isle]

And buying my own copy of the game instead of getting it on rutracker

[winged meadow]

Hell no, a SD865 with a 7” OLED panel and high refresh rate absolutely is worth around $180 if not more (the only thing really holding it back being that same chipset, and it’s not exactly a big debuff).

[jade garnet]

especially with the big battery life

[mystic jetty]

At 180$ I do believe it's absolutely worth it.

No doubt.

[obsidian granite]

Too bad it’s not going to be $180

[ripe girder]

Why wouldn't you just buy a portal?

[jade garnet]

I'll stick to the switch for switch games I pretty much only emulate games that are hard to get or pain in the ass to acquire for real hardware.

pretty much any retro console basically.

[obsidian granite]

Switch Lite 2 when ?

[winged meadow]

Yeah, that’s honestly more likely, I just mainly took offense to the idea of $180 somehow being too much.

[ripe girder]

they'll slow roll you for 5 years and then charge you same price as launch price

[vast coral]

that 250$ before shipping will be very short term lasting 😄 but yes, odin 2 portal over this for most people, in most cases 😄 not going to knock those who want this its just a rough pricing position for them to be in

[jade garnet]

I know you're meming but that's not really true lol

[winged meadow]

Because the Portal is $70 more only because of the fact that it’s likely on clearance.

[jade garnet]

hey i'd buy it as long as the switch 2 lite is oled

[nimble isle]

I don't want switch 2 lite, I want a switch 2 emulator

[obsidian granite]

Imagine if they use the older 7” OLED screen ob the Switch Lite 2 , it would be better than the OG Switch 2

[jade garnet]

Overall more expensive especially with shipping and taxes

[ripe girder]

None of these places charge tax on their first party sites

[winged meadow]

Sure, you could tell people to just get a base Portal while they’re still available (assuming the people would be willing to spend the extra cost), what exactly do they get when the base mode runs out?

[ripe girder]

blatant tax evasion, but I ain't complaining

[jade garnet]

just like years ago the best Switch 2 emulator is the switch 2 itself

[winged meadow]

Unless you want to recommend that they get the $370 Pro model instead of a hypothetical $180-$200 Mangmi Pocket Max? (It should stay noted that the $180 isn’t guaranteed).

[mystic jetty]

Yeah you do that man, I'll stick to playing Switch games on a non switch at higher fps and better fidelity 🙂

[jade garnet]

180$ would be the sweet spot for a budget handheld

[vast coral]

you know things get entertaining when RNS shows up 😄

[ripe girder]

$70 dollars is a great investment to get a 8gen2 over the 865

[jade garnet]

Yeah pretty much

[undone lynx]

It's only a great investment if you care about emulating what the 8g2 allows that an 865 won't, and right now that's mostly, what, Switch, some PS3, x86 emulation?

[ripe girder]

If its 180 shipped it might have a lifeline still in the ICU at launch until portal runs out

[pliant grail]

70 dollars are still 70 dollars tho, its not like 20 or 30. That would be like 2 packets of eggs in the USA or some

[mystic jetty]

Nintendo will never get another penny from me again

[nimble isle]

What is the minimum hourly rate in the US

[vast coral]

you may have mentioned that 40 or 50 times 😉 😄

[nimble isle]

Just curious

[jade garnet]

Hyped to see Switch emulation getting better and better

[undone lynx]

The funny thing is, in France, if you are looking for Switch the Lite is actually at a great price right now

[mystic jetty]

Nope,. First time, before I was stating my Hate

[ripe girder]

also future proofing, its a shame that with such a nice screen and battery and decent looking ergo you have a device that launches with a chip from 5 years ago

[wintry mountain]

AYN charge $29 shipping. My Mangmi Air X was $10 shipping. If they keep that, there's another $19 savings.

[jade garnet]

as they say the best switch emulator is the switch itself

[mystic jetty]

7.25$ apparently

[ripe girder]

depends on where you are

[pliant grail]

If it were to launch at 150$ I'd say thats something. After that it has to wait until the Odin 2 Portal has been discontinued

[undone lynx]

Of course at this price you get the paperclip-safe version so you're stuck to hard-modding if you don't intend to stay within the Nintendo walled garden.

[jade garnet]

Though I'm glad that Switch emulation has improved despite the road block of a certain stupid emulator devs for releasing breath of the wild sequel early that got them shutdown

[vast coral]

no way in hell it'll be 150

[mystic jetty]

2.13$ for Tipped employees is NUTS 😂😂😂😂😂

[nimble isle]

So it's like 10 dollars an hour on average I think and people are really considering getting a device 3x less powerful for 7 hours of work?

[pliant grail]

Haha yea but I feel like this would sell insanely at that price.

[nimble isle]

And they will wait for it for months too

[ripe girder]

People don't think about money this way, sadly

[jade garnet]

Honestly it's worth it getting a Switch lite you're getting a more compatible experience, less head ache and no tinkering required compared to Switch emulation

[nimble isle]

Because it's not even on preorder yet

[vast coral]

and water is wet ;D we know it'd be an insane sell at 150. It's not going to be 150 tho 😄

[mystic jetty]

Incorrect

[undone lynx]

Also I see we're keeping the tradition of talking about anything but the device the channel is supposed to be about in #1095014087232077935 alive

[ripe girder]

I think $170 lowest EB for 5 hours then 200

[vast coral]

you're expecting people in this hobby to have logic? rookie mistake 😄

[pliant grail]

If all I have to pay for is a device, than surely, you're right. Most people have to pay bills and stuff from that little bit of change per hour

[mystic jetty]

Dumping the game is not no tinkering 🙂

[jade garnet]

if you say so

[mystic jetty]

It's a fact

[jade garnet]

Yeah not much info other than TechDweeb making a vide about it, Sadly not even TechDweeb has the prices shown.

[ripe girder]

if its anything over 169 I'm not buying

[mystic jetty]

171

I'll send you the difference

[ripe girder]

can't buy it for the memes then even

[nimble isle]

On hourly rate jobs there are usually overtime hours. I am on a minimum wage in the UK at the moment. If I want to buy something nice that's not in the budget I just go to work on Saturday 3 times and I get like £120 for each of those, I don't know if it's any different for the rest of the people here but I just trade my free time for something I want in this case, every purchase can be valued by dividing it by my overtime rate, if it's worth it then I buy it, if it's not then I don't

[vast coral]

im sure they will cry in despair if you dont buy one 😄 not as if we all haven't got more devices than we need already

[ripe girder]

tbh I just need a device between my steam deck, r36s and arriving mangmi air x

[jade garnet]

Same though mangmi pocket max might be too big since my Steam Deck is already like 7.4 inches scree nsize

[ripe girder]

should have pulled the trigger on the portal already, but I like tinkering

[jade garnet]

Either gonna get Switch lite for switch games or retroid pocket g2 for GBA and PSP emulation

[ripe girder]

Yea either a RP5 pops up or I might just fold and get a rp6 if this thing is 200

[jade garnet]

why not the retroid pocket g2?

[nimble isle]

Because it's a crap deal

[ripe girder]

Employers don't hire people here full time because cost of benefits so they scam people into working part time and so people have multiple part times jobs to get by. They also so gig work which is basically slave wages.

[vast coral]

g2 kinda feels pointless with the rp6 unless you need a device immediately

[ripe girder]

imo ugly

[mystic jetty]

This is also my mentality, I do uber on the weekends so I can have nice things

[ripe girder]

when you don't need something you can be picky lol

[jade garnet]

I like the colors on it more along with it having better ergonomics due to the textured back

[ripe girder]

ribbed for my pleasure?

[mystic jetty]

You sure you up for tinkering with retroarch?

[pliant grail]

problem is, that you can't just assume its the same for everyone. There are people who have families and jýoung children. I'd rather spend my weekend with my young son as long as he still wants to and get something cheaper for when I find time to play in the evening than to give that up.

I'm just arguing for the sake of my point: Its not the same for everyone and depending on the price, this might have a market (If it were like 70 bucks difference including shipping). In general, I'd just wait longer to get the better thing, but not everyone needs the better device.

If the device is only 30 bucks cheaper, then I'm agruing for nothing tho haha

[ripe girder]

leave the man alone bullying fr 😂

[jade garnet]

Hell yeah

[mystic jetty]

If installing a dlc and update on Eden is hard work, I don't have hope for you on rettro arch

[vast coral]

LaFleur really on the being an asshole trend today huh 😄

[jade garnet]

I don't even know how to install DLC for 3ds lol

[mystic jetty]

Someone put something in my breakfast

[jade garnet]

ribbed with anything is obviously good

[frail summit]

Seeing a lot of historical revisionism around the 865

All of a sudden it's dogshit

[ripe girder]

brother not again, we've already litigated this

[vast coral]

where have you been the past 2 months since this got announced 😄

its still hard to justify given other devices though. is gonna depend on that price tag tomorrow

[frail summit]

I blame Retroid for making the G2 Gen 2 and 8 Gen 2 around the 200s cool

[nimble isle]

I understand the point but at the same time I know it's mean but I will say it anyway, if you are worried about the 70 dollars difference maybe videogames can wait until you sort out the finances. 8gen2 is miles ahead of 865, it's not even comparable in my opinion. I would imagine a lot of people in this hobby are not on the minimum wage unlike me so the opportunity cost is a lot smaller which makes decision to buy an inferior device for let's say 3 extra work hours saved even less sensible imo. But if people want to buy the pocket max while ayn sale is still on who am I to tell them no

[winged meadow]

Well, that or you have a shit ton of stuff that only fits the RP5 and you’re feeling too lazy to sell them and wait/look for new stuff.

[ripe girder]

yall you know what I'm just gonna get a miniloong pocket 1

instead

the faceplates convinced me

[vast coral]

you know you're not allowed to make reasonable logical comments here 😄

[nimble isle]

I apologise

[winged meadow]

Which includes the Retroid Dual Screen.

[pliant grail]

I find this argument to be gatekeeping and a little bit privileged. I know what you mean and in general I agree but this logic would lead to people not being allowed to participate with this "hobby" or playing games in general. Instead there's a device that could let people participate. Some people also are able to do responsible decisions or, god forbid, don't let their entire life be consumed by this "hobby"

Again, I might argue for nothing here, if the price isn't different enough lol.

[ripe girder]

If $70 dollars is a big deal you'd get the RP6 or RP5 second hand since you don't have a PC to stream from

so who cares about the 7" screen atp

[pliant grail]

Yea absolutely, there are plenty of devices out there for almost everyone. Insane that there's still no banger 4:3 device tho.

I'm done arguing tho, because I'm not even arguing for my own case haha.

[winged meadow]

Isn’t that just the exact same logic as not needing a 7” screen?

[ripe girder]

I'm just passing time I don't fell anyway about this

[winged meadow]

Why keep waiting for a high-power smaller 4:3 screen handheld if you can get a 16:9 handheld right now?

[pliant grail]

Because a 4:3 device would be fun 😄

[wintry mountain]

The Spanish reviewer says the announcement will be on 2nd Feb at 6PM PST - which is Feb 3rd 2am in UK, 3am Europe, and 10am China

I assumed Mangmi saying 2nd Feb meant 2nd Feb in China

[pliant grail]

Also I did preorder the RP6 because that's everything I need from a formfactor this small.

[vast coral]

huh, 2am my birthday xD

[winged meadow]

So is 7”. Beeg screen neat.

[dire charm]

Yes just heard price is delayed by a day here too

[winged meadow]

Like, 2am today was, or tomorrow at 2am?

[dire charm]

But also that $200 was a "solid guess"

[wintry mountain]

Ohh it's a PRICE DELAY?!?!

What can I say but 👀

[winged meadow]

Mainly asking to know if I should add an “early” to the “Happy Birthday” or not.

[nimble isle]

Silvia mangmi reading this chat and sweating when people say 150 price expectations

[pliant grail]

Yea but I don't understand what you want from me lol.

[vast coral]

nah Feb 3rd 😄 so a day and a bit UK time

[winged meadow]

Alright, “Happy Early Birthday” it is then.

[ripe girder]

Mangmi buying out portal stock as we speak

[wintry mountain]

Man if they open pre-orders at 2am I'm gonna be so far back in the queue

[jade garnet]

Imagine playing GBA games on this bad boy

[wintry mountain]

Do love me some comically large GBA on 16:9, but 16:10 is even better

[jade garnet]

That’s why I love my steam deck Oled

[mystic jetty]

I'm still looking for a super solid 4" 4:3 device for gba, anything over 4.5" is a bit too large for me for gba specifically

[jade garnet]

@vast coral @mystic jetty how’s switch emulation on this?

Since I’m not really good and fimiliar with switch emulation

[mystic jetty]

On a steam deck or a 865?

[jade garnet]

865

[vast coral]

i cant really judge anything on 865 as the only 865 i own is a v1 mini 😄

[jade garnet]

I remember it was better than expected a year ago not sure about these days

[vast coral]

its prob 'decent' but if you really want that than ideally you'll want an 8 gen 2

[jade garnet]

We really need a sequel to the retroid pocket mini

[vast coral]

we're not gonna get it though 😄

[mystic jetty]

These are the games I have on my 865,. All play at full speed besides wonder which has slight drops here and there but otherwise fantastic

[wintry mountain]

TechDweeb's Mangmi Pocket Max video shows him playing (the beginning of) Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 at full speed. Which honestly was surprising to me, I guess Eden has just gotten better

[jade garnet]

I’m a believer of the mortgage screen

[jade garnet]

Man I really underestimate switch emulation

[vast coral]

im glad you are, i am not a believer of the mortage screen 😄

[mystic jetty]

I have only installed the updates and dlc, and they all run absolutely fine

Mk8, you don't even change driver, it just runs.

[jade garnet]

Whoa that’s really impressive

[vast coral]

I do need to try Xenoblade 2 on my portal 😄

[wintry mountain]

Man I loved XC2 so much

[jade garnet]

Why isn’t there detachable controller retro emulation handheld? Imagine the possibilities

[mystic jetty]

In docked mode too, no issues no tinkering

[wintry mountain]

Still haven't played 3. Bought it at launch but kept putting it off. Now I'm just holding out hope for a Switch 2 patch

[jade garnet]

Ohh that sounds amazing

[vast coral]

I can't really say i liked XC2 that much but i found it entertaining so i'll give it another go 😄

[mystic jetty]

Honestly you will be surprised how far switch emulation has come. I may give fire emblem a try soon too, and I'm still on the old eden 0.0.3

[jade garnet]

If I either Emulate switch or get switch lite I want to play the xenoblade game with the giant mechs

[mystic jetty]

Which one? I've seen xenoblsde run on rp5 over on youtube

That was almost a year ago, surely it's even better now

[still ember]

Techdweeb mention that switch Emulation is 50 50.

he estimated around half of library playable.

https://youtu.be/xOabXDmxIeU?si=TB7x9xa25kgae79M

Need to watch for pocket max also

[jade garnet]

Xenoblade Chronicles X for Odin 3 or retroid pocket 6 both seem really powerful

[jade garnet]

Ohh thanks! That’s really impressive

[still ember]

Honestly, If you want switch Emulation you should consider either rp6 or odin2 portal if possible 12G ram.

[north flower]

Does the razer edge count

[civic ore]

8gen2 going for $200 changes the value proposition equation of everything

[civic ore]

$190 EB calling it now

[civic ore]

happy early birthday!

[dire charm]

YES

[dire charm]

Happy bday!

[hexed fulcrum]

?

Where ?

[civic ore]

RP6

[hexed fulcrum]

Where ?

[civic ore]

alright, call it $200ish, you know what I mean

[mystic jetty]

If I wanted to do higher end switch emulation I would not consider the 865 chip tbh. For the middle and low end games it seems completely fine though.

https://youtu.be/hfR1gqZjN1o

Here's a 10 month old video of it running on a rp5 though. Probably runs better now with the advancements in Eden?

[dusty galleon]

Mangmi price the pocket max $200 or less and my life is yours 🙏

[hexed fulcrum]

Which goddess are you praying to ? Hyperbole ?

[frail summit]

Hylia

Silvia

Your Goddess of choice

[lost raptor]

Stubbs thumbs

[frail summit]

This is the 8492th time I've been cucked by Mangmi

[jade garnet]

Got I’ll keep that in mind

[celest sage]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-4677175942198662182

[jade garnet]

Ohh close enough I forgot about that

[celest sage]

(The price does not matter to me as I'm not in need of another 865 but I'm hooked to find out)

[jade garnet]

Ohh that’s looking good yeah seems looking good yeah retroid pocket 6 or the Ayn Odin 3 seems better for switch emulation

[mystic jetty]

Yep if you're looking at the upper end of switch then you'll want 8g2/elite for sure. I don't really play those games, the ones I do want to play, run

[jade garnet]

Ohhh got it

[nimble isle]

Odin 3 still missing drivers. 8gen2 is if you want switch emulation now, Odin 3 is going to be better in 6 months or so when drivers mature

[jade garnet]

Ohh I completely forgot about that

[nimble isle]

I have a tablet with the elite, also waiting for drivers to mature

[jade garnet]

Ohh

[dusty galleon]

Wheres the price gonna announced tomorrow? On their YouTube or website?

[jade garnet]

to be honest if the price has been announced it'll definately be pasted on this specific thread.

[dusty galleon]

Yeah fair, I'll just check here then lolol

[winged meadow]

Actually, didn’t the Turnip devs recently finally release drivers for the 8 Elite?

Can’t say how good or bad they are since I don’t have an 8 Elite device, but it does look like things are finally starting to turn around on that end.

[weak hazel]

....

rip i skipped the odin3 coz the devs said they werent gonna do it

[civic ore]

can always reconsider

my understanding is that the drivers are not a done deal yet but a work in progress

but I haven't tested them yet

[winged meadow]

Eh, there always is the chance of someone just point blank saying “no, I’m not doing it”, which is in fact how it first sounded like the Turnip support for 8 Elite was gonna be.

But like you said, that in of itself doesn’t stop people from changing their mind later.

[dire charm]

2.25ms decode!

That's just at 60, it also works at 144

[narrow heart]

720p?

[dire charm]

At 144hz we can get down to 2ms, avg 2.1

[jade garnet]

Oh didn't expect you to have it already

[dire charm]

144hz

Yes both at 720

[jade garnet]

I hope magmi makes like a medium 16:09 handheld! something like 5 inches would be nice

[jade garnet]

Not sure if it's just me but the video is just a still image with noises

[dusty galleon]

Just you, vids playing fine for me

[dire charm]

Wait for 1080p combined with 144, getting 2.5ms, NICE

Ah it stabilized around 3 to 3.5, oh well so close 😆

720 will be best if you want lowest latency

[jade garnet]

Oh dang rip me

[jade garnet]

Ohh this videi is working! What game is this? it looks fun.

[narrow heart]

I think Mangmi’s next handheld will be a vertical Linux handheld

You can see the middle one resembles the Air X, and the one on the right is the Pocket Max

[jade garnet]

dang wished it wasn't linux

[flint quiver]

I hope it's not a 16:9 vertical!

[wintry mountain]

Ooh no sticks, rare on a vertical these days, i like it!

[jade garnet]

is there even a 16:09 vertical?

[narrow heart]

You sure you don’t want this?

[wintry mountain]

If it only has two face buttons that would be crazy but I would respect it

[flint quiver]

There are quite few namely GameMT's E5 and E6 series.

[jade garnet]

holy crap finally PSP vertical

[jade garnet]

lmao that's crazy

Uhh technically the Flip 2 and thor are vertical since it has a top screen

[flint quiver]

There's also this M5 and R60 Max

[flint quiver]

Yeah sure you could call 16:9 Flips as 16:9 Verticals

[jade garnet]

Ohh

[flint quiver]

Given that they're saying, "Classic reborn, sentimentality reigns supreme" I think this will be GB/GBC like the Pocket Classic but may be sub $100 🤞

[north flower]

A Linux handheld with the rp classic screen would go crazy

[dire charm]

Fast charge is maxing out at 25w

Running wildlife extreme stress test now

[acoustic tulip]

Ball x Pit

[jade garnet]

Thanks

[dire charm]

99% stability. Run on extreme performance mode with fan also on extreme.

[ripe girder]

With in margin of error to RP5

[dire charm]

Was rp5 stability this high as well? Looking for old benchmarks

[ripe girder]

yea about 99% I think

Russ had a table on one of his recent videoes I can't remember if it was 2025 handhelds or which one

[dire charm]

Added Pocket Max

[ripe girder]

Solid score

Here it is source: https://youtu.be/4ByeyqlasHY?t=1306

[dire charm]

Going live in 10 min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdsVYNQIuUs

[frail summit]

Niceee

[ripe girder]

mangmi doesn't ship to washington btw lmao

[frail summit]

Fuck everyone in Washington I guess?

That button indent for the modules was a pretty good cach

[frail summit]

Jesus christ I look at Stubbs thumbs now

This guy has thumbs like vienna sausages

[north flower]

You might even say they're like stubs

[narrow heart]

1388 CNY, so most likely $199 EB pricing, preorder Feb 3, ships on Feb 6

[north flower]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-man-idk-i-dont-know-gif-27358524

So if I'm seeing this right it's $240 retail?

[narrow heart]

Yep

[north flower]

Cooked

[lone sandal]

Ehhhhhh

Stupid modules

Could've saved like $5 there at least

[narrow heart]

Modules not included, but there will be bundle pricing discount

[digital igloo]

what is the type that came with it again?

seems like a chore to use + risk of damage anyway

[dire charm]

This 😆 nice idea, a little finnicky

[dire charm]

Welp

Wonder if any difference for USD pricing tomorrow

$190 EB, $199 retail would work

[lone sandal]

Can't believe US pricing would be lower

Tentative DOA on this

[wispy plaza]

the Portal base model sale is also only for a few weeks, allegedly. maybe the price drop will be permanent, maybe it'll be discontinued

[flint quiver]

Honestly $200 USD before shipping was my max for this. Guess this is going to be DOA for US folks with shipping.

[ripe girder]

The more I think about this the less this makes sense at $200

Beyond cooked

[jade garnet]

is that 1,300 pounds?

oh it's in Chinese dollers

[jade garnet]

Ohhh slightly cheaper than the retroid pocket g2 atleast

[digital igloo]

For 72 hours

[jade garnet]

oh Dang then G2 seems to be the better option

though to be fair the Mangmi Pocket Max is decently cheap for a large 6 or 7 Inch Handheld oled screen

[dire charm]

They'll need to get more aggressive with pricing

G2 does beat it out in performance at the price for sure

[wispy plaza]

there have been handhelds where the early bird price ended up being the permanent price

[ripe girder]

The audacity to price it over the RP6

Ayaneo gonna ayaneo ig

[jade garnet]

were c an you find the store page of the max? it only shows the air x

[ripe girder]

That was all I needed to get the portal

[jade garnet]

Aya neo? this is a Mangmi handheld

[ripe girder]

Iykyk

[jade garnet]

Ah got it

[flint quiver]

Air X showing $16 to my US Zip Code, if $200 + $16 shipping might be able to just squeeze this in.

[jade garnet]

Ohh

[still ember]

Retroid may put on sales their rp5 and sell them at 179 or 189.

Mangmi Pocket Max is cooked.

[slender silo]

"NO Pocket Max" is somehow appropriate.

[jade garnet]

to be fair there's an upside 7 inches with 8000 mah battery is decent for the price since other big handhelds cost alot more

[jade garnet]

Lmao I love messed up google translate

[tame bramble]

Will the Max case have the same easily detachable letters? _ANG_I can you please confirm?

[burnt mountain]

Sorry to say that I think the extra $50 portal makes more sense

[mighty birch]

Price was super predictable. Like everybody was saying $200 EB.

[earnest pecan]

RP5 still has a much smaller screen that's 60hz

Also this Odin 2 Portal sale won't last for long

[north flower]

I mean it'll last about as long as the early bird for this will most likely

[earnest pecan]

Yeah but then it's back to $330

[north flower]

300

They were running a permanent $30 coupon

[earnest pecan]

Ah

So what is the retail price of the Mangmi?

[jade zealot]

Why add cost by having interchangeable dpad/buttons? just sell a mod or something

[north flower]

At least from the Chinese prices $240, official reveal might be different though

[earnest pecan]

Yeah $240 is a bit rough ngl

[jade zealot]

Looks like a nice device in techdweebs video, just probably going to be too expensive

[earnest pecan]

They shouldn't have done an early bird thing at all. Just a flat $200 from the start then once the Portal deal runs out it becomes a good option

Or at most $220

[nimble isle]

200 eb

[hushed girder]

168eu

[wintry mountain]

If they can keep the $10 shipping of the Air X, then $199 isn't so bad, seeing as the Portal is $29 shipping

Would have liked the whole thing to be $199 including shipping tho

[nimble isle]

My portal was 31 dollars shipping

[wintry mountain]

Yeah cause you added loadsa accessories

[nimble isle]

[dusty galleon]

[distant sigil]

Most were expecting 190-200 for EB, so I don't know why so many are disappointed

$10 aren't making or breaking it

[vast coral]

They're angry because they want it to be 150 😂

[distant sigil]

That was never going to happen

[vast coral]

I'm prepared for the storm of entitlement today 😋

[still ember]

No, we expect at least 72 hours super early bird at 180.
180 ( slight FOMO)
200 ( to me no FOMO )

[distant sigil]

That was just you

And like 2 other people

[still ember]

I agreed. But o2p is staring at Mangmi with 249 price point. This is the issue.

I speculate at 189.

[distant sigil]

Whatever. If it was profitable to sell at 180 they'd do it to counter. It's not a "must buy" but that doesn't nean it's "DOA" as some people proclaim it is

It's just fine at this price

Still waiting for global announcement

[undone lynx]

150 would have been a "must buy if you're within the device's target audience" price but with the NANDpocalypse progressing as it has it obviously wasn't going to be sold at that price, 180 would still be a compelling offer, 200 is meh for a meh device and I don't think Mangmi has the reputational inertia to coast on "meh".

Hence why I put that as the threshold for DOA.

[distant sigil]

You clearly had weird expectations about the device with SD865 and 7" Oled

[ripe girder]

DOA at this price

EB 200 retail at 240? For a SD865? Clown behavior

[undone lynx]

The Retroid Pocket 5 is sitting at the same price and more importantly was already on the market for a good while and given that size can just as easily be an advantage as an inconvenient to a prospective buyer I wouldn't expect "someone who wants a retroid pocket 5 but bigger and can absolutely not afford the existing larger devices" to be a large enough target audience for this to be a successful device.

[distant sigil]

What are you talking about. This is a device for someone who is looking for a 7" screen

[ripe girder]

7” screen to do nothing with

Imagine not just getting a portal

Or a RP6 if you want something faster

Or whatever mediatek trash that ayaneo is about to put out

Pulled the trigger on the portal btw 230 shipped

[vast coral]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-17113235549330485842

[deep vector]

Lmao

This device is going to fail at $200

[undone lynx]

Whether you look at it from the spec or the screen angle, the end result is the same, we're looking at a customer base made up of people who want a 7" screen device and refuse to compromise on that front, don't already own any of the many 7" devices out there, and would be unwilling to spend $250 for an Odin 2 Portal but would be willing to spend $200.

[deep vector]

And that's the early bird price too

Literally no reason to get this over the Odin 2 Portal

[undone lynx]

That's a tiny slice of the market, and I don't think Mangmi is going for sub-4 digits sales.

[deep vector]

You need to stop playing mental gymnastics to try to justify this. No one in their right mind is buying this when for $250 you can get an Odin 2 Portal.

[undone lynx]

I could see the argument if the Pocket Max turns out to be at like $180, that's enough of a price drop to consider forgoing an SD8Gen2 device in favor of this thing (especially if you don't care about high end emulation in the first place, but in that case why are you looking at a 16:9 7" device?). At $200? That's not enough of an argument to move the amount of units that Mangmi probably needs to make this profitable.

[deep vector]

Also $200 is for the Early Bird

So it actually cost more

[distant sigil]

It's an ok price at 200, not so much at 220-240, that's all

Mangmi are screwed either way, so I hope they didn't stock a lot of units

[vast coral]

Ah I love the smell of entitlement in the morning 😄 but yeah it's a tough sell

[still ember]

They just have to move on to their 3rd handheld. They must learn from their mistakes.

[cursive glacier]

I see there is some news here

local early bird price on air x was ~5-10% less than global

so expect 220-240 shipped, earliest bird

[severe latch]

That's....a complete rip off.

[wintry mountain]

Lmao running it through Google Lens

"coupon for positive reviews'

[proud vector]

Just get an odin 2 portal base while you can

[cursive glacier]

everyone’s an influencer

[still ember]

They cannot go higher for international launch

[cursive glacier]

it's impossible, there are additional processing fees for international payments

[nimble isle]

Did I miss the crashout? David is unusually calm today

No poetry

I am disappointed

[cursive glacier]

the damage was done already by the portal

[distant sigil]

Does that jd platform include shipping in the price tag?

[brittle hill]

This was my thoughts too

[brittle hill]

It’s a China specific site. So it would realistically make no difference

[cursive glacier]

yeah shipping is like 2-3 USD in China

[brittle hill]

International usually has added costs. Unfortunate but true

[distant sigil]

There's usually platform fees on marketplaces, so they could do 199 realistically. But if it's not, then it's kinda a meh launch. Going just below 200 is like the best selling point they have

[vast coral]

its early. give it a bit 😉

[still ember]

Ha ha it is already predicted below 200 and only just.
Mangmi is cooked.

[frail summit]

My silent whimper prediction wins

[nimble isle]

You can do better than that

The ayn vultures circling around wounded mangmi waiting to partake in the feast of their own making

Some shit like that

Come on bro

[wintry mountain]

The david account is run by many people and only one of them is poetic

[frail summit]

Bring back poet David

[solemn hollow]

Who exactly is David tho?

[wintry mountain]

A poet! Must be the same dude

He hath shephereded us all through this launch, fought like a warrior for good prices, posted some gosh dang poetry, and, therefore, will one day be our king

[solemn hollow]

The man, the myth...

[deep vector]

You guys trying to glaze Mangmi are weird

[frail summit]

Idk who's glazing here

It's bleak

All hope might be lost

[deep vector]

RIP Pocket Max

All Hail Odin 2 Portal

[frail summit]

Nah fuck the Portal

Absolutely massacred my boy

[deep vector]

Lmao

Never stood a chance

[cursive glacier]

We had the betrayal, now need the redemption and the resurrection. Maybe in time for Easter

[nimble isle]

Mangmi dual screen

Both screens oled, all glass front, modular controls

Mangmi doodoo max

Sd 865 starting price 340

[deep vector]

Pocket Max will probably be worth it through an AliExpress sale

[nimble isle]

Once it hits 150-170 on some sale + coupons

Then we can talk

For now it's portal supremacy

[jade garnet]

lmao fair

[lusty widget]

$199 plus shipping is expensive for international costumers. Let that sink in ☠️

[deep vector]

Ayn took the Pocket Max out back like Old Yeller

[wintry mountain]

Depends. Their shipping for the Air X was only $10.

(to the UK anyway, maybe it varied country to country)

[lusty widget]

If you use coupons then it's fine. But if you have to pay taxes the price will go even higher!

[wintry mountain]

They sent it via YunExpress last time which managed to skirt the VAT. If they sent it via DHL then I wouldn't even consider it lol

[lusty widget]

I was expecting a $179 price. Now I don't know if it's worth it

[undone lynx]

I'm just here to join in on the dead horse beating tbh, I'm not in the target audience for the Pocket Max regardless of launch price anyway

If I want a 7" display I have my Steam Deck

[deep vector]

I too am here to beat the horse to death

https://tenor.com/view/horse-dead-beating-gif-9285411

[ivory portal]

$229

[frail summit]

Retail?

[still ember]

Hopefully, Some of you will support Mangmi to go thru this difficult phase. Air X launch was great. But Pocket Max launch immediately going ICU. Need people to support especially people buying super early birds.

[open junco]

What?

[frail summit]

Depends on the retail price for me. EB is irrelevant since I doubt I'd be able to get in in that window

[pliant grail]

David is actually an undercover Mangmi worker or sth

[undone lynx]

not even EB price is below 200
It's so over.

[frail summit]

It might be over but I'm waiting for the official announcement

I wanna hear it from their lips that it's over

[lusty widget]

Does super early bird mean that you have to buy it in a few minutes? 🤔

[coarse basin]

lmao base portal is just 10bucks more exp right now, why would anyone get this

[frail summit]

I think Joey said its 72 hours

[undone lynx]

When I said DOA if over 200, I was admittedly overstating my actual expectation that it would just not be a good seller.

But if these are the prices, then it's actually DOA. There will be zero sales for this thing past the 72h SEB window and I'm barely exaggerating

[lusty widget]

First 188 orders grants you a free carrying case. Best deal ever

[frail summit]

I think there is a space for this thing to exist after the Portal sale ends

But in the meantime oh yea you bet your ass its over

[lusty widget]

It's looking way too expensive. Better get an odin 2 portal instead!

[frail summit]

I'll get the RP6 instead

Or Flip 3 if they decide to make another one

[still ember]

Yes, and i send the wrestling image

What i mean is that Pocket Max launch will not be as successful as Air X launch. Will this impact the financial of this newbie company?

[deep vector]

Why are we going to support a company when the competition offers something better for not that much more

[still ember]

I must admit, It is the misstep that Mangmi by not understanding the Market.
But their Pocket Max look premium and stick seem great.

[still ember]

Since got ayn Thor and pocket ds, i believe not more flip 3.

[frail summit]

Single screen Flip 3

If they decide to go down that route there is a spot for it

[digital igloo]

can they make an arrangement with ayaneo, buy pocket max get a bundled 2gb pocket air mini

[nimble isle]

If David says it's over it's actually over

He was the last man standing

[frail summit]

If Mangmi's strongest is gone then I'm gone

[still ember]

No Mangmi can survive this fallout. Need to get the 3rd devices with the right prices and market correctly.

[deep vector]

I still think Retroid is going to make a Dual Screen Handheld

Especially since the Dual Screen Add-on hasn't been in stock for a while now

And doesn't line up correctly on a Pocket 6

[deep vector]

It's Joeover

[frail summit]

But I want single scren 🙁

[vast coral]

great device but the wrong time pretty much

[jade garnet]

Here’s hoping they make an AYN Odin 3 mini

[frail summit]

I hope for that too but I mean the RP6 is right there

[north flower]

That's more like the Odin 2 mini portal

[still ember]

Not it is ayn odin 3 portal.

the reason is 8 elite chip superior in PC games under gamehub. small screen is not suitable.
Big screen possible 8 inches instead of 7 inches.

Odin 3 portal may start with 12G instead of 8G.

[north flower]

Ngl having an 8 inch screen with an 8 elite doesn't really make sense, at least for my use case

The main reason I'm even interested in gamehub and pc emulation is because you can play pc games on handhelds smaller than x86 ones

[still ember]

But why switch 2 is 8 inches and not 7 inches.

[jade garnet]

We don’t need that portal came out recently I’d rather get an ayn Odin 3 mini a needed sequel
Which came out longer

[frail summit]

Odin 3 Mini would melt

[vast coral]

oh god i dont envy the thermals on an odin 3 mini with the elite 😄

[north flower]

Wouldn't though, it is a phone chip after all

[jade garnet]

I mean phones are fine and they don’t even have a fan

[vast coral]

would need some good cooling given you know, these devices are mainly for gaming rather than as a phone

[digital igloo]

It can uses 15w, same as the deck apu, unless Ayn handicap/cap it in a mini

[deep vector]

I love how it's the perfect size to carry around

I should have gotten the 2 Mini while it was still in stock

[still ember]

PC gaming on 5 inches screen. That is interesting. wondering how the triple A gamehub title will be on 5 inches screen.

[jade garnet]

Yeah I love how small it looks we need more medium devices

[deep vector]

Surprisingly still the only Handheld to have a Mini LED screen

[vast coral]

Most people with 8 elite phones will be using them for phone things and not pc emulation 😄 gaming phones with the built in fan etc is a different story

[frail summit]

Dawg I think most people out there with 8 elite phones have gaming in mind

[deep vector]

Have 8 Elite Phone. Cannot confirm.

I mostly play Fortnite on it though

[frail summit]

Can we get a ban on this guy?

[still ember]

8 Elite chipset need 6 inches or 7 inches at least. 5 inches, pc gaming on gamehub will not be so enjoyable.

[north flower]

Lowkey get a steamdeck atp

[frail summit]

5.5"

[still ember]

odin 3 at 6 inches is already the minimum for 8 elite chipset.

[jade garnet]

Closest thing we got is the retroid pocket 5, 6 and g2

In terms of size at least

[acoustic totem]

Indeed. 8 elite phones are really not designed for sustained performance. I've got an 8 elite in mine and benchmarked it beside the Odin 3 and it thermally throttled by loop 4 of wildlife extreme and dropped ~30-40% framerate.

[deep vector]

You know how else can ban this guy?

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[acoustic totem]

The Mangmi Pocket Max isn't necessarily DOA. There's always room for a price cut. Special introductory sale 🤣

[vast coral]

nono the hivemind has spoken, it's too late 😄

[jade garnet]

It’s technically the cheapest 16:09 7 inch handheld for emulation

[deep vector]

The joke is that Mordecai and Rigby are in Fortnite

[jade garnet]

Sure it isn’t as powerful as the portal it’s still decent and cheaper

[deep vector]

$200 is the introductory price

[acoustic totem]

It's also the cheapest 7" handheld that can't play any 16:9 emulated systems at 1080p 🤣

For me the best use case is streaming... And if you can afford a gaming PC or a geforce now subscription you're probably not concerned about budget.

I lie, it can play PSP at 1080p.

[deep vector]

Aw yeah

Crisis Core at 1080p

If only there was a remaster available

[jade garnet]

I disagree PSP would look really good on it

[jade garnet]

Oh my bad I didn’t see this

[acoustic totem]

It wouldn't surprise me if the Odin 2 portal can play the remaster on gamehub 🤣 just that VRAM.

[deep vector]

It runs the Switch Version

[jade garnet]

To be honest I don’t see why we need an odin 3 portal so soon

[deep vector]

But that's at 720p

Also 30fps

[deep vector]

Because GameHub

[jade garnet]

That’s still so soon since portal came out recently it’s like releasing the Odin 3 instead the portal last year

[still ember]

Odin 3 portal is for gamehub and PC streaming.

[digital igloo]

It just needs to drag til the portal gets discontinued, at least the base version 👀 , and keep it at the EB $220+

[still ember]

Odin 2 series, odin 2 portal likely will not be in production and once it is sold out. Odin 2 portal may not be available and ayn can choose should they go odin 3 mini or odin 3 portal. There are use cases for odin 3 portal over odin 3 mini.

[undone lynx]

Meanwhile at AYN:
"They actually released the device? Cut the Odin 2 Portal's price by another 50 dollars."

[jade garnet]

Agreed we don’t need Another portal for another year would rather get something different like Odin 3 mini imo

[digital igloo]

Retroid pocket max when ?

[still ember]

I understand you already have an odin 2 portal and it is still good enough and no need for odin 3 portal.

[vast coral]

yeah an odin 3 portal with elite doesnt excite me much 😄

[still ember]

Why, your gamehub will be better as most PC games are suppose to play on at least 12 inches screen. So 7 inches will be better over 6 inches.

PC games developer design their games on desktop.

[vast coral]

this may be a shock but i dont care a huge amount about gamehub 😄

[still ember]

Did u know some people buying odin 3 as they focus mainly on gamehub especially when there are no turnip drivers?

They actually already own odin 2 portal so switch games can be handled.

[vast coral]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[still ember]

They want to turn their android device as steamdeck lite and odin 3 portal can do it.

[jade garnet]

Oh I don’t have one unfortunately it looks so good with the GBA Colors

[still ember]

Thanks to Mangmi, now it is the right time to get odin 2 portal base at 249 !!!

[civic ore]

[jade garnet]

I wonder if the AYN portal 3 will look like the portal and 3?

Or maybe they’ll go wild and make it look really different

[still ember]

It will be either 7inches, 7.5 inches or 8 inches.

But it will not be cheap due to the ram shortage.

[deep vector]

Portal released a year ago

[still ember]

With shortage of ddr5 ram are they planning to produce more odin 2 portals?

Or just the current existing stock??

[deep vector]

Doesn't seem like it since it's currently on sale?

[still ember]

o2p use high value spec like ddr5 and ufs 4.0 storage. Now the ram shortage, it will be quite expensive for new production of these handhelds.

[jade garnet]

Yeah I know

[deep vector]

To be fair, Ayn devices are already on the high end

You could argue there's also AyaNeo but it's also AyaNeo

You'll be lucky to get your device to begin with

[still ember]

i worry that odin 3 mini or odin 3 portal ayn may use ddr4 ram instead 🙁

[mystic jetty]

Ah so the price has dropped

The realistic predictions wer mostly correct I guess, 200 to begin with, 230-240+ after. DAMN

We can agree on one thing David, elite chip or 8g2, you do want something bigger than the rp5 screen

Guess the wait for the odin 3 portal begins

[still ember]

I thought that people prefer the smaller odin 3 mini?

[digital igloo]

Unless they change the chip, that is not possible

[mystic jetty]

Perhaps, but I will not buy another device below 6" personally

[still ember]

u mean 8 elite chipset must use ddr5 ram!!!

[mystic jetty]

Google says even the 8 gen 2 is strictly ddr5

So yeah they won't be getting ddr4 in those higher end chips, no shot

[deep vector]

https://tenor.com/view/david-scream-marmot-david-scream-gif-3449357644506545335

[still ember]

Really, that is the reason why Mangmi dont use 8gen2 chipset due to ddr5 ram chipset requirement.

[acoustic totem]

As much as I'm a maniac for having the most powerful devices. ||at that point just get a steamdeck OLED||

PC emulation really ain't good enough to warrant that kind of money to play PC games badly 🤣

[deep vector]

Steam Deck OLED is 800p

[still ember]

The issue is x86 handheld battery life is short unlike the more efficient 8 elite chipset. Where the handheld can be smaller and lighter.

[acoustic totem]

I'd rather have 800p than horrendous frame times and high input latency.

Gamehub is cool for lighter indie games and 10+ year old AAA titles , but if you enjoy a smooth, responsive game. Android emulation ain't there yet.

[still ember]

I heard from odin3 chatgroup mention that after using the drivers, they are getting more triple A games to play on their odin 3. is it true?

[digital igloo]

I have a o3 and a deck oled, I can assure you the o3 is not more efficient than the deck when it comes to running the same games/setting/performance, at least for most use cases now.

[deep vector]

Android Gaming is also nice

Can't play Fortnite on a Steam Deck

[acoustic totem]

technically playable and I really enjoy playing this are different things. On a non VRR display I can't say I enjoy a frame time graph that looks like a buzzsaw.

[deep vector]

I mean, you can but you have to install Windows

[wintry mountain]

Can't play it on an Odin 3 at the moment either

[deep vector]

Is that true?

[wintry mountain]

The device gets flagged and they kick you from the game

[deep vector]

Weird

The Portal has no issues playing it

[wintry mountain]

I think the same happens on the RP G2

Yeah strange, something to do with certification i suppose

[acoustic totem]

You can install windows on a steamdeck and play fornite. You're kind of crazy to do it, but it's possible 🤣

[mystic jetty]

Still never played a single minute of fortnite

[deep vector]

@acoustic totem

Cloud for Fortnite when?

[acoustic totem]

Can you not play it on the amazon luna service?

[deep vector]

You can

[acoustic totem]

That may well be the worst way in history to play a competitive shooter.

[deep vector]

Same with other Cloud Gaming Services

But natively no unless Windows

Amazon Luna is a nice addition to Prime

Lets me stream my GOG Library

[acoustic totem]

There we go. Best reason to buy the pocket max. Bundle it with an amazon prime subscription.

[deep vector]

Also I meant Cloud Strife

Nah

Pocket Max needs to come with a Year of 4K Netflix for it to be worth it

[north flower]

That's my thing as well, someone would have to spend around $500 for the 16 gb odin 3 portal for a device pretty similar in size to x86 handhelds and a similar power draw. I just don't really see the point

With the odin 3 being switch lite sized i think it has more of a niche

[cursive glacier]

https://youtu.be/MUJYDWmpGQw

david you are famous!

[deep vector]

David has ascended to Gaming Valhalla

[nimble isle]

Love the recognition for our mascot

Bro has been doing good work

It's about time he got the fame he deserves

[wintry mountain]

HyperDave Handhelds

[slender bear]

I wonder if David secretely wanted everyone to think the price will be lower, so everyone will be dissappinted and buy Two Dream instead

(Because he is Luna's alt)

[still ember]

oh dear what is happening
quoted my discord chat from 2 youtubers. what a joke??

[cursive glacier]

it seems you have become the go to source for mangmi information

[undone lynx]

It's him

David Mangmi himself

[deep vector]

Move aside Silvia

[still ember]

Is only speculation? what???

[deep vector]

David is the True Mangmi

[mystic jetty]

You have made it!

In the big leagues! Go start a youtube page and capitalise

ThePoetDavid

[frail summit]

In David we trust 🙏🙏🙏

[deep marsh]

Ok, the Odin 2 portal shipping is $32. Hoping the Max's price delivers.

[frail summit]

Abandon all jope

[mystic jetty]

What on earth is this $5 worry free charge????

[frail summit]

Mangmi cooked beyond belief

[frail summit]

Something not worth looking at

[mystic jetty]

£25 for delivery sheeeesh

[nimble isle]

Surely it's not 25

It's 23

[wintry mountain]

Just remove it

[mighty birch]

The Portal+grip cost me $28 in shipping.

Shipping prices vary depending on location but there around that range

[civic ore]

in before that quote ages catastrophically

[mystic jetty]

I did, but I've just never seen such a thing before. All deliveries should be worry free

[vast coral]

its been around for a while. retroid etc use it too

[wintry mountain]

We asked AYN about it during the Thor launch and they said it was something Shopify themselves were adding on

Just some way to scam you out of money

[mystic jetty]

Shopify dirty scum

[umbral rampart]

I love how the fees are for our convenience

[obsidian granite]

Just imagine if it didn’t have the mostly uselees modular controls and was $20 cheaper , people wouldn’t be complaining

[deep marsh]

Is the YouTube video official? I didn't see it on the site yet?

[surreal glacier]

Heard the price is getting revealed today?