AyaNeo Pocket Air Mini

[maiden ice]

Like, it wouldn’t be much of a price drop, but the fact it would be that cheap as retail and not “just early bird, with regular price being way more” would be good.

[urban hull]

To Quote LUNA from XU Retro, "Using that Screen and Chip together is like a Mouse Pulling a Carrige"

Not enough power in the T820 to enjoy all 960p that screen can offer

Also, AliExpress was Running Sales during that Back to School Sale a month ago where they were selling last years t820 devices for $125-$140

[limpid galleon]

first of all they have to give 206 devices away for free

[pearl helm]

The suspense is KILLING ME!!

[warm yarrow]

ngl its making me laugh so hard bcz they write " a retro handheld everyone can afford" in the new video, but dont give a price lol

[inner crag]

it’s so confusing because I thought konkr was the budget brand

[mental haven]

Konkr is just more cost effective in any price range.

Code R ( pocket air mini ) is the budget line

[tribal tiger]

konkr = ayn competitor
code r = Anbernic/Retroid competitor

[zealous mortar]

Ayaneo main is the overpriced line. Konkr is the reasonably-priced (not necessarily budget) line. Code R is the reasonably-priced line with mid/lower end hardware. That's how I see it.

[pearl helm]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-going-to-be-such-an-exciting-day-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-itll-be-an-amazing-day-will-be-great-day-hope-itll-be-a-delightful-day-gif-21430454

[pearl helm]

What time is it in shenzen, when do they usually like to announce stuff?????

[mental haven]

https://www.youtube.com/live/UljYS7imUPc?si=P0uKPq8izPEk2ZQW

Probably right now during their live stream

They might shove in some Pocket Vert or Air Mini Information in there

[zenith breach]

eh

[twin flower]

This live stream is a fun way to tease that their budget line won't have audio.

[mental haven]

Very creative, I gotta give you that

[twin flower]

"We've reduced the weight of our handhelds by an average of 4.5 grams by removing all speakers."

[pearl helm]

What’s this

[mental haven]

Pocket DS - Retro Power

[pearl helm]

Oh yeah

[zenith breach]

it looks exactly how thor ...

disgusting, seems like they use same base

[mental haven]

It really doesn’t

[zenith breach]

very similar

edges are changed in the case

[mental haven]

They couldn’t look more different

[zenith breach]

no sound stream ... uh

anoying asf

OH

they streaming with sound on bilibili lol

wtf

[mental haven]

Saying the Pocket DS and Thor looks similar because they both are DS is like saying the Air Mini and RG476H look similar because they’re both 4:3

[mental haven]

Weibo too

They don’t like YouTube

[zenith breach]

sick

[maiden ice]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[zenith breach]

nah they completely different even for me

[maiden ice]

How the fuck do they look the same, they don’t even have the same top shell (AYANEO’s using a metal one), much less the same hinge.

[zenith breach]

I'm talking about my perception
upd: wrong

And without going into details, I think I'm not the only one who finds them similar.

damn they still streaming ...

[mental haven]

Whatever you say

[zenith breach]

air mini spec reveal hope

[hot steeple]

Damn still no spec reveal

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[zenith breach]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-waitaminute-gif-26448308

hes talking too much

[azure thicket]

Has the stream ended ?

[zenith breach]

no ...

https://live.bilibili.com/22261377?live_from=84002&spm_id_from=333.337.0.0

[azure thicket]

Thanks 👍

[zenith breach]

uw

bruh hes again take pocket fit in hands, this thing never gonna end seems like o_O

https://tenor.com/view/eye-twitch-cat-angry-mad-pissed-gif-15680052

[pearl helm]

It is their big new release, still on early bird

[zenith breach]

yh

[tribal tiger]

pro tip

don't watch Ayaneo livestreams

they are usually terrible lol

[mental flower]

streamer makes this big show of how the company is trying their best to make the devices affordable for everyone every single time

literally has made multiple comments in the Pocket Air Mini QQ server along the lines of 'I thought 140 USD was affordable for everyone!' when Chinese consumers talk about how they're not paying anything over 699/799 for a G99 device

[zenith breach]

yeah worst stream what i ever see

zero usable info

[hot steeple]

I would definitely consider $140 pretty affordable tbh

[mental flower]

bit different in Mainland China when a monthly salary of ~420-450 USD can give an individual outside of the megacities a decent standard of living

[pearl helm]

But still no chip details

[zenith breach]

we are still standing in the same place

[reef shadow]

So in the end no Mini news? 😞

[mental haven]

Yeah, gotta rely on kitsune’s dripfeed again

[zenith breach]

nop

[pearl helm]

Not coming is it

[upper coyote]

99% of the time with Ayaneo, this means they are underwhelming

[azure thicket]

Really need specs reveal now

[pearl helm]

Another week and no chip reveal 😞

[tribal tiger]

I'm guessing Ayaneo and Anbernic are in a deadlock waiting for each other to move first now

[zenith breach]

yh, definitely

[reef shadow]

Well Anbernic has already unveiled everything 🤔

[tribal tiger]

price is not officially out yet, can still have last minute changes

[warm yarrow]

Ayaneo in shambles rn getting all their device launches interfered with from ayn and anbernic lol

[faint chasm]

That's pretty normal for them. They also have issues with their own manufacturing and shipping.

All these companies are small anyways. Shit happens.

[pearl helm]

I think they are delaying so they can squeeze an sd elite in

[faint chasm]

Lol

[surreal ocean]

Definitely

[limpid galleon]

8 Elite for $139 would be wild

G3x Gen2 would be enough tho

[pearl helm]

Nah need the best bang for buck

Elite at $149 or ‘doa’

[rich mantle]

Snapdragon G2 gen1 let's go😂

[zenith breach]

not exist 🙁

[torn tide]

SD865 it will be , Retroid's CEO will go through a second mortgage

[mental flower]

is this confirmed?

[azure thicket]

Nothing is confirmed beside the screen...

[tribal tiger]

I'll allow it

[surreal ocean]

8 gen 2 ftw

Would be cool tho

[azure thicket]

Seems like Russ received his RG476h... first impressions are near and we still have nothing spec wise for the Air Mini...

[tribal tiger]

we'll have to wait until Anbernic officially reveals price and release date for Ayaneo to show their rear a couple days later

so in a few days probably

[pearl helm]

Maybe today some info… maybe

[reef shadow]

Maybe 😅

[azure thicket]

Hopefully 😅

[reef shadow]

If the 476H goes indeed to sale this weekend, Ayaneo will loose some sales if nothing is announced…

[azure thicket]

Yeah, I think so too

[pearl helm]

Yep they need to before then

[azure thicket]

Does someone know how was the shoulder buttons on the OG pocket air ? Were they clicky or dampened ?
I think they might use parts of the OG on the mini

[quick minnow]

I’m based in China, and right now Anbernic and AYANEO are really going head-to-head in the handheld market. Their products are starting to look more and more alike, and the pricing is moving in some pretty interesting directions.

For example, AYANEO just launched the KONKR Pocket FIT series, （By the way, there’s also kind of a funny wordplay going around in Chinese. The AYANEO “KONKR” Pocket FIT series soundsliterally means “conquer Anbernic.” So a lot of people joke about it . ）and the price can go as low as around ¥1700 RMB (about $234). Meanwhile, Anbernic recently released the RG477M with a Dimensity 8300 chip, and it only costs about ¥1650 RMB (around $230).

AYANEO also has the upcoming Pocket AIR Mini, which honestly looks very close in design to Anbernic’s RG406H.

Both companies clearly see the value in each other’s turf — AYANEO is trying to push lower with more budget devices, while Anbernic is stepping up with higher-end specs. So it feels like they’re colliding both in the high-end and low-end markets at the same time.

[mental flower]

to be fair I don't see how the Pocket Air Mini can compete with the 406H/476H if it uses a G99 chip (which is what I'm seeing in the QQ group atm)

they'd better come up with a more powerful chip

[limpid galleon]

Just use a t820 too

[green temple]

If it'll cost 130 dollars then a t820 power is more then enough to beat anbernic

[hot steeple]

I think they would lose that tbh

Rg476h has the better screen, they need to have the better soc

[green temple]

is it actually better aside from the 120hz aspect?

[tribal tiger]

I mean it's 4.7 vs 4.2

[turbid quarry]

Big thing for me would still be ergo

Which won't be that good on the RG476 without an extra grip attachment

[pearl helm]

Still nothing waddafak

[green temple]

that's a subjective pro

[green temple]

I like it more when handheld don't have a built in grio to give you the option to have one or not

the rp mininfor examplenis like 31mm thick with It's grips

which I'm actually not sure how comfortable that is for one's pocket

[pearl helm]

Just get a bag bro

[pearl helm]

This device is starting to pee me off now! Love the look of it but how long we gotta wait for the dang chip

[warm yarrow]

as long as they are willing to wait to play and lose a game of price chicken with anbernic.

still funny how they advertise it as a device anyone can afford, but wont tell anyone the price lol

[mental haven]

Still no pocket vert reveal either

Or the other code R product that is another vertical

[warm yarrow]

they announced a lot all at once, give them time on those. but yeh. theres the vert which Im interested in seeing and the phone that was teasted that could have slide out controls.

[quick minnow]

If that’s really the case, then it perfectly matches AYANEO’s personality of being able to sell literally anything at sky-high prices.

[surreal ocean]

Better by how much? It's still a dpad centric device

[pearl helm]

Not a g99

[surreal ocean]

Not like it needs an sd888

[zenith breach]

if = RIP

[timber sinew]

I want it to at least play Sega Rally Saturn native resolution full speed on Beetle Saturn core. If it can do that it can do anything else I could want.

[hot steeple]

D1200 would be ideal

[limpid galleon]

D8300 would be ideal

[hot steeple]

Yeah but I'm trying to be a little realistic here

[limpid galleon]

G3 Gen3 then

[hot steeple]

I mean, I wouldn't complain if they did that

[zenith breach]

G1 Gen2 would be ideal for 120$

7050 for 120$

[hot steeple]

Wouldn't the g1 gen 2 struggle with upscaling, its gpu is fairly weak

[zenith breach]

better have good cpu than upscaling

[hot steeple]

With the d1200 you would get both

[zenith breach]

that unreal for this price point

-_-

7050 is maximum

[hot steeple]

Hey I would say the same about a g3 gen 3 for $240

It's possible

[zenith breach]

nop

[zenith breach]

em

it cost that much just bc it ayaneo

konkr has different price politics

alr, maybe dimenciy 7300/7350/1100 possible too for <150$, but not over

[limpid galleon]

G2 Gen2, is my last offer

[azure thicket]

If it really ends being a G99, it has to be around 100$.
Otherwise it will be a hard sell

[zenith breach]

g99 if 100$ handheld it okey

[tribal tiger]

but at that point you might as well get a rg40xxh and get a better dpad

[zenith breach]

trash

[mental flower]

this is what Chinese consumers told them in the group btw

699 RMB or this is DoA

[urban notch]

$100 🤞
Instant win
But knowing AyaNeo it might be closer to $200

[muted marsh]

At the end of the day, international shipping will be like $35 from the AYANEO website, which will brutalize the value. I hope the rumor of it being on Aliexpress ends up being true.

If it’s < $150 after coupon w/free shipping on Ali, then I think it’s competitive.

Otherwise, only for the Chinese market and super fans.

[warm yarrow]

IGG earlybird pricing 150 b4 shipping, with an increase of 100 dollars after the campaign ends and they sell it normal price. its ayaneo. lol

[torn tide]

Will this be avaible on Ali or it will be IGG only ?
Depending on the chip and if it's preorder then the 406H is a better deal.

[versed shore]

$100 IGG, $120 retail would make the most sense for a g99 device from ayaneo. Faster than ??5 anbernic devices (~$100), slower than ??6 anbernic devices (~$150)

[tribal tiger]

I feel like Ayaneo needs something more than just "makes sense" to sell these

they need to surprise people with either the chip or the price

[pearl helm]

Telling us the chip will be a surprise for sure

[verbal salmon]

Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini now on the livestream:
https://weibo.com/l/wblive/p/show/1022:2321325211581046194415

[pearl helm]

Does look nice

Is the white one to the left a air mini too?

Seems original air now zoomed out

[tribal tiger]

looks neat

a bit large for a 4" device

[pearl helm]

Comfy though, compared to anbernic one

[green temple]

chipset?

[mental haven]

8 Elite

[green temple]

they can't keep getting away with edging me

[zenith breach]

dm me, when he take it in hands -_-

[mental haven]

Maybe it’s this guy

Nvm it’s the 8elite and g3gen3

[mental flower]

???

for 140 USD?

[crisp fern]

Na

Pocket DS and Konkr

He's got the pocket air mini now

D1200 is my final guess

[sacred warren]

nice looking but yeah chunky boy, not going in my pocket

[mental flower]

oh there's a 799 RMB variant with the G99

have no idea what the 999 RMB variant uses though

[crisp fern]

Let's see if they inflate prices in the west

[long meteor]

maybe still use G99 but with retro power color

[crisp fern]

Give em hell Luna

[pearl helm]

Hmm maybe I’ll just get a Konkr fit then

Is it now confirmed a g99 and other variant?

[mental haven]

Nah mini chipset wasn’t revealed yet

[vestal flame]

ffs 😄 they're stretching this out

[mental flower]

G99 will be sold for ~112 USD (799 RMB) from what I'm hearing, which isn't that bad of a deal

there are ~100 devices with that chip but they're generally worse than what you receive from Ayaneo

[mental haven]

Huh, I didn’t see anything about that

[tribal tiger]

i sleep

[zenith breach]

and stream end, omg

[pearl helm]

I understand their trying to get more ds and fits sold but just give us the chip 😭😭

[zenith breach]

G99 for 110-120$

[pearl helm]

Although looking at that size comparison I feel more reason to just buy a fit

[mental haven]

no

|| I don’t have nitro ||

[hot steeple]

Anything but the soc reveal

[mental haven]

I wanna see the SoC and design for the vert instead

But both are gatekept

[woven vale]

Maybe they are worried it will hurt konkr sales

So after early bird ends

[turbid quarry]

4.2"

[azure thicket]

Is it possible to see the replay for that stream ?

[surreal ocean]

G99 wouldn’t need a fan I would think

[turbid quarry]

Pocket Micro has a fan

[inner crag]

ktr1 is passive heatpipe, zpg z1 unicorn had a fan and it got a little warm

g99 is ok with a quiet fan

[pearl helm]

Ok so in worst case scenario and it’s a g99, what can that do

[woven vale]

Micro has a fan. I never find the micro fan that loud tbh. I can play quite easily without it bothering me

[azure thicket]

Is it possible to watch this stream again please ?

[sweet veldt]

Someone posted a link above to rewatch

While a G99 for $120 wouldn’t be bad I still would like something with a bit more power maybe something like a SD 4 gen 2

[faint chasm]

was this actually confirmed then

or still aya neo being teases?

[sweet veldt]

Not yet but someone was speculating.Just reveal the CPU AyaNeo as the RG 476H isnt looking that bad

Only thing is that looks better on the Anbernic is the screen though

[zenith breach]

anbernic oled and t820, aya should have better soc to compite, or lowering price (<140$ is auto lose) 100-110$ is clear win, even with G99

[torn tide]

Is it confirmed to be the G99 in there ?

[mental haven]

nothing confirmed yet, only speculation

[zenith breach]

nop

[torn tide]

If they put the RP4 Pro insides in there i'll buy it day 1

[azure thicket]

It almost seems like even Ayaneo haven't decided what chip they are gonna use in that

[opaque egret]

G2gen2 in this would be 🔥

[tribal tiger]

build your burger, you decide which chip you want depending on what you want to spend

wouldn't that be nice

[zenith breach]

my bet G1 / 7050 / 900

[azure thicket]

D900 and 7050 are pretty similar no ?

[zenith breach]

Yup, overclocked version

[azure thicket]

Would be the better choice then. It would be a really positive move from Ayaneo

[inner crag]

mostly PAL PS2 games at 1-2x

[opaque egret]

They sell a g3gen3 for ~204€ . A g99 would be awful imo for ~150

[surreal ocean]

Is the anbernic screen OLED?

[inner crag]

rg556 would be oled and t820

you could probably get one now for $150 because it is last year’s release

[zenith breach]

oh, no ... my bad

ips (ltps type)

[steep jolt]

Better to cannibalise one’s own sales than to let money go to the competition. Seems like they’re doing the latter

[green temple]

maybe the chipset isn't final yet, haven't found the perfect value yet

[zenith breach]

maybe

[muted root]

Even t820 is a better chip than g99.

[zenith breach]

but for <120$

[atomic moat]

If the above is true, G99 normal/unlimited units price for <120 or even 130 is fine (not great but still fine), as long as there is no crazy shipping fee ( I expect something of this size to be 10-15 usd max).

Far better value than all the h700/rk3566/a527 stuff out there.

And kind of positioned ok against the mangmi air x and upcoming g85 handhelds from magicx/XU.

Hopefully early orders discount of 10-15 USD.

[steep jolt]

I just think it seems un-Ayaneo-esque to not have a premium price tag for whatever they put out. I think it's safe to say, whatever you think the price should be, just add $50-100 to be inline with how Ayaneo prices their devices in general, regardless of whether it's a "budget" chip/device or not.

[hot steeple]

Ehhh you can find rg406h regularly on sale for around $120-130. At that price g99 just really isn't a great value

[pearl helm]

It needs to be comparable to the 476 really

Atleast

[hot steeple]

The hell is their problem lmao

Just tell us the soc

[azure thicket]

Maybe we are wrong assuming this has a SoC and that it is meant for playing.
Maybe it is just a fine looking plastic thing with a screen to display in your living room

[torn tide]

They're probably figuring out what to put in there lol And i hope they're not lurking in here and go with the G99 , that chip sucks

[jaunty storm]

The only way ayaneo knows how to make a budget handheld is making the most expensive kids fish ring game

[strong marsh]

Yeah I think they wanted to use g99 originally and even produced some batches but than they saw people complaining, so now they will pretend g99 was the plan only for the cheaper variant and they are trying to figure out a new soc for the main one

[versed shore]

That's bordering fanfiction territory lol. The only thing we know is that it'll cost <$140, nothing else

[strong marsh]

Yeah , I have no idea why they don't want to announce the SOC, I just saw some people saying they announced 799 RMB variant with the G99 so it's even weirder to me that they didnt say what they will use for the main one

[versed shore]

What do you mean "what they will use for the main one". There's only one chip in there, no one confirmed there's 2 variants

[strong marsh]

If you will scroll up there's info about the cheaper variant, not sure now if real though, lol : #1412470785213468838 message

[green temple]

There are no bad chips, only bad prices

[limpid galleon]

I would be a little disappointed if my "free" Air Mini is a g99 device

[strong marsh]

Not sure if I agree, I think free is a reasonable price for it

[mental flower]

this is cooked I think

Anbernic are selling the 476H for a presale price of 998 RMB

Ayaneo needs a more powerful chip than the T820 with the 999 RMB variant

[green temple]

goddamn

that sounds amazing

too bad I just made a huge purchase on getting a new tv

I wont be affording this

eh, waiting is almost always better anyway

[muted root]

Ayaneo are probably a year too late on this if its a g99

[zealous mortar]

$120 is by no means a bad price for a G99 device but honestly, if I'm gonna buy a G99 device in late 2025 it's gotta be under $100.

[torn tide]

I wouldn't go through IGG cringe for a G99 in 2025 lol

[muted root]

No they have to sell this normally and ship within a few days.

[steep jolt]

If under $100 is what you think a G99 device should be, the you betcha Ayaneo is gonna price it at $120 or more. Gotta maintain their “premium” pricing image after all

[muted root]

G99 is way better than sd662 so 20 to 30 usd more than the magmi air x makes sense at that level even though smaller screen.

[pearl helm]

Chip?

[green temple]

CHIP, we need the chip

don't care about the plastic quality frankly

[pearl helm]

It already looks nice… everything hanging on the chip

[tribal tiger]

this will make Russ happy

[azure thicket]

Exterior is already good, we know that. We need to know how "well built" it is inside now...

[azure thicket]

Need to know if this shoulder buttons are dampened too. Can you tell us ?

[green temple]

Yeah he always seems to complain about smudging on devices

I personally just wanna play so I don't care all that much

[fervent mica]

Less than 799 CNY (112 USD)

[atomic moat]

he can't reveal the chip without a streaming session ...?

[blissful pine]

Nice price

[surreal ocean]

I don't get the the g99 hate, it's a capable chip, only slightly less powerful than the t820 (CPU wise, I think it has comparable gpu)

[green temple]

exactly, AMAZING chip for n64 and ps1

4x upscaling will be easy

[atomic moat]

its quite abit weaker than the t820 actually, i think gpu gap might be bigger than cpu gap. but as long as its priced <120 i am ok with it

[ivory dagger]

It's almost definitely a G99 at this price then

Which yeah, is fine, it's not supposed to be a full GC/PS2 machine, it'll do great at everything below

[surreal ocean]

I have ktr1 with a g99 and 406v with t820. There's not any difference in emulation below GC/PS2. The ktr1 has plenty of power

[ivory dagger]

12gb ram option (apparently) on a G99 is weird though, so I still have some doubt

[atomic moat]

where did you get the 12gb info from?

[muted root]

Might be same chip as retroid pocket classic.Price should be doable for that

[ivory dagger]

#1065271348601040946 message

It was apparently in the live stream yesterday

[atomic moat]

oh. yea no point

[blissful pine]

The pocket micro also had 12gb option

My guess is 6/8/12 like micro

[atomic moat]

overly complicated for a lower end/priced product

[blissful pine]

That's ayaneo

https://tenor.com/view/ayaneo-arthur-ayaneo-arthur-ayaneo-ceo-ayaneo-uhh-gif-13249268331265667570

[ivory dagger]

I don't believe it did

Wait, I'm dumb, that's the classic

I don't believe the regular micro offered 12gb either though

[blissful pine]

Yea im wrong

[ivory dagger]

Interesting, now I'm really doubting G99

[tribal tiger]

maybe they do two chips?

g99 on the cheaper sku, d1200 on the more expensive one

[atomic moat]

has they shown a headphone jack on this yet?

[ivory dagger]

I don't think AyaNeo has ever done that, but there's a first time for everything. Especially if Arthur really wants to advertise that low price

[atomic moat]

they did for the konkr, though that one feels like a addon later to counter O3 to me

[ivory dagger]

Yeah

[blissful pine]

The konkr has 3 different chips i dont think the pocket mini would use more than 1 for a budget device

[ivory dagger]

Fingerprint reader only on the 12gb might indicate something different? I'm not sure how the tech on that works

[blissful pine]

They have a fingerprint reader?

[ivory dagger]

This is from people that viewed the live stream, that Arthur mentioned a finger print reader only on the 12gb model

[atomic moat]

phew, at least with a headphone jack even if its a g99 and share the same flaws as the micro we can still use wired headphone/earphones

[blissful pine]

The drip feeding from ayaneo is always shit

[tribal tiger]

well, price and release date of the RG476H is officially out

so if they were waiting for Anbernic they can do their move now

[zenith breach]

130 not fine

[turbid quarry]

I'm kinda confused about the sticks on this

Will it, or will it not have red caps for its sticks on the white model

I love the caps on this

But renders feature white caps

[zenith breach]

readed ... g99 but for lower price

[blissful pine]

Pocket air came with 3 different caps in the box so maybe they are throwing them in it

[zenith breach]

so ayaneo just will kill XU and Mangmi, Anbernics below 476

good move actually and also we are on another lvl 112$ for G99 is pretty good

it much better than T618/620/662/G85 cpu and gpu

[zenith breach]

CPU Multi, Single, GPU

[zenith breach]

or they just fucked up, and put t620/662

[versed shore]

It's swappable.

[turbid quarry]

I know it's swappable, but it may not come with extra caps

[steep jolt]

If it really makes it fingerprint-proof I'll order black.

[surreal ocean]

How to resist the retro power color way?

[pearl helm]

Hmm this or 120hz

Can the g99 play cave 1000 arcade games ??

And Saturn

[zenith breach]

it can anything below GC (beetle above)

[maiden ice]

Maybe it’ll be like the original Pocket Air and include multiple stick caps with different colors?

[turbid quarry]

That's what Moomin said

[maiden ice]

Yeah I only saw that after my comment.

[turbid quarry]

You could easily be right

I hope

Not like the caps are expensive

[blissful pine]

The caps look different but they gave you 3 colors and the little dust cover for the sticks? Idk if that's what its called

the konkr also comes with extra caps so maybe they just put it with everything now lol

[pearl helm]

Other than the chip and screen, for ergonomics and dpad buttons etc would be safe to assume reviews of the pocket air would be similar?

[maiden ice]

Hope so, always great to have options for this kind of stuff.

[maiden ice]

Depends on if they updated the membranes to match what devices like the Pocket Evo or Pocket Ace have.

Or hell, maybe even the Pocket DS if they’re listening to people who want tactile buttons like me.

[mental flower]

I only hated the possibility of the G99 being sold for 999 RMB, it's fantastic at 799

my impression was that the G99 was considerably worse than the T820 though, if it's close to the latter then I think the 476H is truly DoA if Ayaneo manage to get this out in time lol

[surreal ocean]

T820 does better in benchmark’s likely due to higher cpu clock

GPU on g99 has higher clock/turbo

[ivory dagger]

T820 will play nearly all GC and most Wii easy, and most(?) PS2

G99 plays like half of GC well, and less than that of PS2 without a lot of tinkering

[surreal ocean]

G99 will play GOW2 very well on ps2

In my experience

[ivory dagger]

Hence the tinkering condition

I think it can be hacked to play a lot of PS2 well, it just takes work

[steep jolt]

Realistically if you want a well powered device, what are you doing looking at the 476H or the Air Mini? Seems like the 477M would be the likely candidate. The 476H and Air Mini are fine to be low-powered devices IMHO.

[maiden ice]

Are you trying to say the T820 doesn’t already require tinkering?

[ivory dagger]

Less than the G99

It does more without tinkering, that's the simplest way I can put it

Both also benefit from tinkering

[thorn swan]

well, ps2 with tinkering at 200$ is not great

[atomic moat]

G99 's is clocked slightly higher, but its g57mp2 vs the g57mp4 in the t820

[mental flower]

this is getting sold for ~112

[thorn swan]

at least pocket air mini is around 160$ with shipping and taxes

112$ naked man

it's around 160$ for me, and 476h shows at 200$ on ali

[maiden ice]

Didn’t they already pull the same “less than” thing they just pulled with the Pocket Fit?

Cause so far this is still saying “less than”.

[thorn swan]

if it's g99 it would be great to be 99$ take or leave it

[blissful pine]

shipping is usually around 30 bucks

usd

[thorn swan]

even worse then

[mental flower]

less than = presale/early purchase discounts

799 is probably the retail price after those discounts

[blissful pine]

where ndid you get 160 from tho lol

[thorn swan]

VAT * (112+20)

[blissful pine]

ah

vat

[mental flower]

brother this is the Pocket Air Mini thread

[blissful pine]

https://tenor.com/view/going-to-vomit-gif-15669269131231828557

[mental flower]

yes the 476H costs more lol

[maiden ice]

I dunno about that, even the retail price for the Pocket Fit G3Gen3 was in fact less than the $330 they said it would be “less than” for.

[mental flower]

well hopefully that holds true for this one then lol

[maiden ice]

It was like $10 less, but at this price range that’s literally the difference between being above and below $100.

[thorn swan]

brother, what is the competitor of this device as we understand it? why so many people noted that aya is waiting for anbernic to show the price of 476h so they can decide how much to charge for this?

[pearl helm]

Even when we do know the chip, the screen is still a lottery. Also for me personally I haven’t tried ayaneo dpad and buttons so may not like them while I know I really like anbernic and retroid (from experience)

[thorn swan]

that's why i think this would be my first aya device if priced correctly

[atomic moat]

They were forced/pressured by Ayn for the konkr, anbernic not giving them the same pressure here

[mental flower]

oh okay I thought you were talking about the 476H being 160

[thorn swan]

just to get a feel for their controls and build quality

[maiden ice]

How’s the screen a lottery? No one’s even used one of them yet, it’s not the same potential issue that the Pocket Ace managed to avoid.

[pearl helm]

Lottery as in we don’t know what it is like

[mental flower]

idk I think a 160 Pocket Air Mini > a 200 476H

[pearl helm]

Could be awesome screen could be meh screen

[mental flower]

since the chips are apparently similar in performance

[atomic moat]

They are not really

[maiden ice]

They are from what I’ve seen with the Unicorn and Cube.

[atomic moat]

Unless you count 20-40% difference (depending if cpu or GPU bound) as similar in performance

[thorn swan]

benchmarks aside (no one plays those) they are pretty similar and they both need tinkering for ps2/gc

[maiden ice]

The only times I got better from the Cube was with GammaOS. And even then Aya’s performance profile options might as well be the same in what you can get.

[atomic moat]

Then the t618 is similar with the g99 then

[thorn swan]

if you consider DC/Saturn being the ceiling then the only differentiator is the screen, 4.2" vs 4.7"

[atomic moat]

The gap between t618 and g99 is similar to the gap between g99 and t820, all 3 needs tinkering for ps2/gc

[thorn swan]

again .5" makes the diff

[mental flower]

4.2 4:3 feels big enough for me but I understand people wanting stuff closer to 5 inches

[thorn swan]

depends on the age/eyesight

[pearl helm]

It’s a bit more than just the 0.5” though, ones 120hz and also tried and tested while this one could be shite

[steep jolt]

We all assuming this is Ayaneo competing against the Anbernic RG476H. The more I find out, the more I think it's a horizontal competitor to the Retroid Pocket Classic.

[thorn swan]

i doubt aya will put a bad screen in this, unless they want the image hit they will get

[blissful pine]

aya usually has good screens

[mental flower]

nah Max Zhou talked mad shit about Ayaneo's boss yesterday lmao

this is intended to compete with the 476H

[mental flower]

Ayaneo guy got hit with the 'he looks like a hanjian' insult

[thorn swan]

because Max is encroaching on Arthur's space and Arthur decided to go and attack Anbernic on the low side

[maiden ice]

It is honestly funny to me that they’ve had one of the best hit rates on getting good 60hz IPS screens.

[thorn swan]

fck, let them fight, i always like manufacturers wars, we win

[ivory dagger]

Max just shit talks every single competitor and is constantly out for blood. Admirable really

[shadow swan]

So ayaneo is combatting max by coming to the market too late

[blissful pine]

I was gonna say isn't max always talking about someone

[shadow swan]

this is AYN loki all over again

[maiden ice]

Meanwhile, everyone else is already focused on either getting 120hz IPS or OLED.

[mental flower]

yeah the Pocket Air Mini would be hailed as an amazing device if it was released last year

[thorn swan]

as long as quality doesn't suffer in their race to the bottom, my wallet and family is happy

[mental flower]

genuinely have a nice midrange device to recommend to my family and friends now

not costing over 1000 HKD for 3DS and potentially PS2 gameplay with some tinkering is very nice

[thorn swan]

we suffer from a lack of devices in the 100-150 range

[mental flower]

have no idea if this can run Switch but given that my RP Classic can now run Luminescent Platinum on Eden...

[shadow swan]

for 100-150 range devices, there need to be arm phone/tablet versions in the 120-180 range worth picking from

[thorn swan]

running switch is a fortunate bonus for this

if you really need switch buy a modded lite and play that

[maiden ice]

Funny enough, Lumi also ran on my Pocket Micro.

[pearl helm]

I’m gonna be selling my rpmini for this or 476, need/want bigger screen and 4:3

[shadow swan]

anbernic has steadily been picking soc's used by ZTE, which is largely a south-east-asia-only phone developer

[maiden ice]

“Run” being a loose term…

[pearl helm]

What if they announce a different chip now….

GIVE CHIP PLEASE

[vestal flame]

oooh thats really cool to hear

[versed shore]

Announced <799 rmb price means it's almost definitely g99

[hot steeple]

G99 🥀

[zenith breach]

yup

[pearl helm]

Ok I’ll take a gamble on it and buy one

[tribal tiger]

or a g1 gen 2

[pearl helm]

If it’ll play ps1/n64/dc upscale and Saturn

[zenith breach]

beetle no

cpu not enough

[pearl helm]

Nah yaba thingy I’m fine with

Gamma working on g99 after t820 too

Cmon ayaneo

[zenith breach]

he know something?

or for micro

[pearl helm]

I dunno but he’s said t820>g99>sd865 when someone asked about gamma on rpmini

[zenith breach]

hm

[zenith breach]

https://youtu.be/hMMs7VpAD20

[torn tide]

They may put the T820 in there then
If it's the price they announced than RIP the entire T820 line by Anbernic

[zenith breach]

dont know anyone who can configurate emu properly and review that soc, this is like out of box.

[inner crag]

I think this might be good, otherwise, why the secrecy

[obsidian socket]

I'm still assuming this is gonna have the same D1200 chipset as the original Pocket Air, which would be just fine by me since it's a perfectly capable chipset for everything below GameCube and PS2 plus most of the GameCube and PS2 catalog as long as you don't mind doing a bit of tinkering.

[limpid galleon]

G3 Gen3 or bust

[mental haven]

If that was the case I’d market it as 2x PS2 pixel perfect upscale

[tribal tiger]

well this is Ayaneo so god knows

but I'm hoping they surprise us

[fervent mica]

Livestream on Sept 18 at 8 AM EST

[hot steeple]

Ah, so he's uncle tail

[mental haven]

So basically 10AM EST to skip the pre-show and some yapping

[maiden ice]

Ok, so now I fully expect them to immediately start to business just to mess with people, because I’ve already had to deal with like 2 different jinxes “coming true” and I’m starting to get a bit skeptical on whether or not these companies have spies lurking in here.

[mental haven]

Nah, they’ll have to restart their YouTube stream 4 times before even getting to the chipset

[maiden ice]

You say that, but what if they literally start the stream with the Chipset announcement pre-recorded but blurred, and then restart with a way longer video so that people know it’s happening in this stream, but they don’t know the chipset until they watch it all?

[mental haven]

Nahhh

Not happenin

[tribal tiger]

G3 gen 3 mic drop

then Arthur puts on sunglasses and "won't get fooled again" starts blasting

[warm yarrow]

I doubt it based on the prices shown so far.

[surreal ocean]

Aya really gonna reveal the day before rg476 goes on sale? Ice cold if surprise chip announced

[little cove]

not very ice cold if the chip is worse than a t820

[cosmic root]

their wallet will be ice cold if so

[hot steeple]

D1200 🤞

[azure thicket]

It can only be D1200 if they have leftovers from the OG Pocket Air and that they want to get rid of it in order to replace it with new gen soc.
But even then, they could easily sell this device with D1200 for 140$ and it would still be a good price imao.
And of course Ayaneo know that, that's why I doubt it will actually be D1200

[reef shadow]

If they don’t give us then the SOC, they’re trolling us!

[atomic moat]

Hope it's the last video stream for this

[inner crag]

one thing for sure, i am not watching this stream live

[steep jolt]

As long as it’s priced accordingly based on the chip. Doesn’t need to be as powerful as the 476H. It can be as powerful as the RP2S or RP Classic for all I care

[zealous mauve]

it will be soooo funny if they dont reveal the soc

to be clear i think they will

but imagine they dont

the publicity stunt of the year

[zealous mortar]

He's gonna to be showing off the curves and feeling up the plastic for 2 hours.

[torn tide]

Yeah no , i like my e-waste to be not THAT blatant e-waste. Only T820 and up now.

[strong marsh]

Actually if priced well it can be interesting with g99 , the only problem I see is $20 for shipping if they will use their usual shipping methods on IGG

[steep jolt]

Well I’ve got news for you.. The RG476H has a T820

[flat robin]

https://ayaneo.com.cn/product/AYANEO-Pocket-AIR-Mini

MTK Helio G90T is the SOC

[zealous mauve]

oh no

[pearl helm]

So wtf is that

[zealous mauve]

not great

[flat robin]

Android 11, weight is 269g. Ordering RG476H tmr - better option now barring sub 100$ price for this

[zealous mauve]

worse than the t820

[atomic moat]

rofl

[hot steeple]

Worse than g99 in single core but better in gpu

[zealous mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-duddI9zjI&list=PLB4emcksNbenQbIs-kG3itGqttjycwL7Z

[pearl helm]

Bring back the g99 all is forgiven

[zealous mauve]

mario sunshine 24fps im crying

whyyyyy

[hot steeple]

On the bright side I can now save $100

[zealous mauve]

ayaneo giveth and ayaneo taketh away

[pearl helm]

How did it end up being worse than any predictions

[limpid galleon]

Is this a joke?

[zealous mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrNXw-9mczA

its joever

its not even better than the t618

this is barely even a good deal, it's just a modern rp2s

[strong marsh]

LOL, its a shame that single core is the most important for emulation 😄

[zealous mauve]

why did they give us hope

[ivory dagger]

With typical Aya shipping this is a way worse deal than a RP2s

[zealous mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfECnXjPmjo

wait, conflicting messages

running way better here

not flawless but

metroid prime 55-60fps isnt the worst thing ever

[strong marsh]

Actually the fact they were hesistant to announce it was quite telling, everyone was expecting g99 because of it, but it's even worse 😄

[atomic moat]

its just a underclocked g99 in the cpu side, not that bad but still

[zealous mauve]

god there are NOT a lot of emulation videos of the g90t

[abstract nest]

Guess Anbernic wins this round with the 476

[zealous mauve]

476h is so ugly though 😭

[fervent mica]

Top config is 3+64, is that even enough?

[zealous mauve]

i will never get my perfect handheld

[atomic moat]

top config? then what is the bottom ?

[fervent mica]

Lowest is 2GB+32GB

[zealous mauve]

what is. this handheld aimed at

like, it's not quite gc/ps2 capable

but not aimed at psp bc it's 4:3

cant quite run saturn flawlessly

dreamcast and n64 machine????

[atomic moat]

should still do perfect (or close to it) for n64/dc

[pearl helm]

It’s only got 3GB ?

[atomic moat]

i mean excluding parallel renderer etc

[zealous mauve]

sure but we've had dreamcast+n64 devices for around this price before

[strong marsh]

Indeed, but the price is still too high

[atomic moat]

rp2s? that has a smaller 480p screen though

[zealous mauve]

mangmi air x is 16:9 but its also $80 or smth

[atomic moat]

has price been revealed/confirmed? other than the <799 poster

[zealous mauve]

used rp3+ / 405ms are $100 or less

sake for base model rp4s with the d900

[strong marsh]

Unless by <799 they mean it will be $80 or sth

[pearl helm]

This does have a nice body and probably screen

[abstract nest]

How does it look ugly?
It looks so good design wise

[zealous mauve]

nearly every anbernic device looks horrific to me

i'm a designer by trade, i will be picky

• chin bigger than forehead
• buttons (font, colouring, everything abt them tbh)
• vent position
• anbernic text on the back (and the colour is out of place)

most anbernic devices look like AI renders to me

[atomic moat]

3gb is ok for the systems it can play. 2gb i not so sure especially considering the ayaneo software/bloat

[zealous mauve]

rg cubexx is the exception, that one is pretty

[strong marsh]

Out of curiosity what do you think about the old Nintendo handhelds?

[zealous mauve]

if they released today i'd find them pretty blegh

gba sp looks alright

but context is important, at the time they fit in perfectly fine

[strong marsh]

TBH I think I lke the look of all Retroid devices, but they have horrible ergonomics

[zealous mauve]

fair, everything before the rp5 was very flat

ive never held an rp5 or rp mini irl though so i cant speak for those two

[strong marsh]

rp5 also has terrible ergonomics 😄

[zealous mauve]

damn rip

im not super picky with ergonomics tbh, i liked the switch lite and that was flat as hell

[strong marsh]

I think Taki once said their design contractor is very good at visual design but knows nothing about gaming

which actually makes sense looking at their devices

[zealous mauve]

eh honestly retroid also commits some design sins to me

[strong marsh]

I'm not able to use mine without the gripcase

[zealous mauve]

ayaneo devices tend to look the best, but they also have missteps

[abstract nest]

Yay a 5.8 ghz gpu
This is the best handheld

[flat robin]

this could have been a perfect "small carry everywhere" device that plays till gc/ps2. But 6 year old processor ruined it for me. The screen, ergo is fantastic - like cheaper version of RP Mini.

[zealous mauve]

wouldve preferred they made this a $150 rpmini competitor tbh

[atomic moat]

should be 800mhz

[zealous mauve]

worse, and not by a small amount for the consoles where it matters

[flat robin]

G90T CPU is almost same as G99, GPU is a third of G99. Hope it can play till 0.5 times GC/PS2

[zealous mauve]

ayaneo really had us hyped with their konkr stuff being genuinely good value

we deluded ourselves into thinking this too would be well priced

we learn

[atomic moat]

i think you all exaggerating, the cpu is just clocked 7-8% lower? gpu is older architecture (not sure it will affect older emulation) but looks slightly better than g99 's in raw performance slightly also

i think power efficiency takes the biggest hit since its on 12nm

[zealous mauve]

no like, watch the emulation clips that existr

it's equivalent to a t618 device in gc/wii

[flat robin]

the above attached videos look promising though, for that price. hmmm....

[zealous mauve]

Mario Galaxy 2 runs pretty much identically to my old 405m

and it did not run well on the 405m

[atomic moat]

you are talking about phones/tablets without any active cooling or even space for a decent heatsink for passive coolign

[zealous mauve]

that wont matter for such a low power chip

[pearl helm]

So can it do upscaled n64/dc 100%?

[atomic moat]

maybe 🤷‍♂️

[zealous mauve]

this thing wont take the extra wattage even if it could

[zealous mauve]

yeah, n64 and dc will be fine, as will psp

upscaled for 99% of games

[atomic moat]

yes, better than a t618 at least. I not sure if there is a "dirge of cerberus" or similar for n64/DC, so can't say about the 100% part

[pearl helm]

Damn I still kinda want it buuuuttt

[zealous mauve]

but saturn, gc, ps2 and wii are a no go

[pearl helm]

Yeah I want Saturn atleast

Not bothered about gc or ps2 really

[zealous mauve]

if youre doing saturn, be warned it's one of the most finicky consoles compatibility wise

please wait for videos demonstrating it on this chipset prior to purchase

[pearl helm]

Yeah I’ve done Saturn on lots of other stuff over the years

[zealous mauve]

esp with saturn having a pretty small game library, if it doesnt end up running one of the main games you wanted to play you'd be scamming yourself

isnt it so fun that dreamcast is significantly easier to run than saturn lmao

thank you 90s sega you are so intelligent and innovative

[pearl helm]

Other problem is there’s arcade stuff I want that this won’t play 100% too

2d

[zealous mauve]

yeah no fair, an rp mini might serve you well?

[pearl helm]

Yeah I have one 😂

[zealous mauve]

ah fair lol then why do you need this 😭

[pearl helm]

I’m after a larger 4:3

[zealous mauve]

anyway back to thirsting over the konkr pocket fit, this thing looks so good

[pearl helm]

The mini is awesome but small screen

[versed shore]

G90T looks to be more powerful than G99, at least on the GPU. CPU is identical

[zealous mauve]

ahh, 476h/477m seem like pretty much your only options then

[zealous mauve]

no?

g90t is twice as old, 12nm as opposed to 6nm, about 10-15% worse cpu performance and 10% worse gpu

its also clocked lower than the g99

[flat robin]

RP6 wont come till Nov. RP Mini 2 even after that. That could have a killer 4:3 screen (4+ inches). But need to wait few months. Until then either this or RG476 are only good 4:3 options

[ivory dagger]

Well being clocked lower is why it's worse in CPU

[zealous mauve]

wait but why is ayaneo advertising this as having wifi 6 and bt5.2 when the g90t only supports wifi 5

[ivory dagger]

Because the core layout is identical besides for 12mm and the downclock

[zealous mauve]

true, i was writing as i was reading the specsheet

lol

[versed shore]

Yeah GPU was named weirdly on that one, They're pretty much identical besides the clocks it seems. G99 is better on every point then

[zealous mauve]

but real world performance as per the videos i posted above is

not impressive for ps2/gc sadly

[ivory dagger]

Well no, the GPU looks to be different somewhat significantly

[atomic moat]

its older architecture but slightly better in raw power

[versed shore]

I'm looking at benchmarks

[ivory dagger]

Lower clocks, less shader units, but more shaders in general

[zealous mauve]

why are we just saying things

its not 😭

[ivory dagger]

Performance wise, yeah, I was looking at architecture

[zealous mauve]

the g90t was a predecessor to the g99

same series roughly

g90t, g95, g96, then g99 (and now g100 and whatever else they release)

[vestal flame]

and so the salt begins 😄

[zealous mauve]

cpu is roughly the same between them all, but the g95+ all clock higher and are 6nm as opposed to 12nm

[ivory dagger]

I don't think the power difference is the biggest deal, this wasn't really a GC/PS2 machine even with the G99

[zealous mauve]

no i mean fair, but g99 makes a lot of gc/ps2 just barely playable

so having something just below it

is a little disappointing

[blissful pine]

Do we have a price

[zealous mauve]

eg wind waker, double dash, sunshine all run on the g99 (barely) - but won't on the g90t. those are huge games to miss out on

[atomic moat]

the stream didnt start yet

[blissful pine]

Don't buy this for gc and ps2 wth lol

[hot steeple]

Don't buy this*

[zealous mauve]

yea no this isn't a great deal just in general if it's $100 like i'm guessing

same value proposition that an rp2s was a year ago, but just with a better form factor

[pearl helm]

So it’s a little bit better than the t618 but worse than the g99

[steep jolt]

Called it. A horizontal competitor to the RP Classic. Not the 476H

[zealous mauve]

pay $20 more and get an rg406h on sale 😭

[zealous mauve]

yeah that summarises it pretty well

[ivory dagger]

You could, but with the amount of options we have to play GC and PS2, trying to jank them out isn't the best. It's cool to do, I do it a lot, but not that practical

[flat robin]

maybe they will do another device under CODE R branding in the future: 5" 4:3 screen (bottom DS screen), with G99, 6GB/128GB

[zealous mauve]

yeah no very true, we're just in a tough spot with gc/ps2 atm sadly

just barely out of reach for a $100 device it seems

dimensity 900 couldve got more use i reckon

[vestal flame]

oh man whatever is going to spend days sobbing in a blanket from this 😄

[zealous mauve]

if only they revealed the soc earlier lol

it feels like they knew itd cause an upset

[pearl helm]

These emulation tests on YouTube are all using phones with double the ram too so probably worse

[steep jolt]

Would totally buy this if it's $100.

[ivory dagger]

Arthur made a big deal about never compromising on his handhelds to get a lower price, and then he made this. A little surprised

[steep jolt]

Time's are tough. Competition getting fiercer. Not surprised TBH

[zealous mauve]

like i said i think this wouldve been far better received as a $150 device with a better soc

ayaneo does not need to be a $100 or less manufacturer

[timber sinew]

[zealous mauve]

even if it was equally performant to the t820 devices, people would go "an ayaneo device that isn't horrifically overpriced?"

[versed shore]

They should release one $100 device, as a treat

[zealous mauve]

rather than "this is cheap, but also not really worth it"

[azure thicket]

Still much better than the sd662 coming in the air x

[zealous mauve]

praying the konkr line has some cool stuff coming

[zealous mauve]

i mean, not in a meaningful way

neither can do gc/ps2 in a playable manner

[atomic moat]

which is already good value for its price compared to the h700/rk3566/a527 devices.
People just expecting multiple leaps in performance/dollar within a few months.

[zealous mauve]

both can upscale psp/dreamcast

the mangmi air x is $80 and will emulate anything this can

[azure thicket]

Yeah but better overscale and shader possibility

[zealous mauve]

not really, the GPU difference is miniscule

[steep jolt]

I mean they $100 price bracket for Android devices.. There aren't that many devices so I can see why they'd want to capitalise on it.

[maiden ice]

Isn’t it going to be $90 retail and $80 is just the early bird?

[steep jolt]

Go where the money is.

[zealous mauve]

oh maybe, i havent kept up hugely with it tbh

[zealous mauve]

true, but it just kinda cheapens their brand image

why wasnt this a konkr in that case

what is this whole code r thing for if its just to make cheaper devices that are still more expensive than similarly performant competitors

[steep jolt]

At this point Ayaneo as a brand doesn't scream "luxury" or "premium". Just screams "overpriced".

[zealous mauve]

i guess but to me they knew what they wanted to be

they were almost bespoke in a way

overpriced, yes

but because they wanted to position themselves as less bootleg-ish than the competition

ayn just undercut them hugely with the o2 which kinda ruined that

[steep jolt]

They wanted to be something that doesn't have much viability in a niche.

[zealous mauve]

fair but idk, i like ayaneo's position in this hobby. there's gotta be some company making handhelds with actually well considered aesthetics and randomly overpowered socs

who else would ever make the ayaneo pocket dmg

im doomposting and being melodramatic i know

[vestal flame]

melodramatic, just a bit 😄 it's funny to read though

[zealous mauve]

i dont mean to be like dooming about ayaneo's future or whatever, this device changes nothing lol

anyway konkr pocket fit might be my handheld i choose then

[steep jolt]

Even "luxury" tech brands make budget products. Ayaneo just doing the same. NBD.

[zealous mauve]

youre right, but its just confusing that they made a whole subbrand for good value devices

then release this under their main brand

[azure thicket]

I think, all thing considered, it will be good at what it is meant to be.
Because they didn't said it was for GC or PS2...
If they advertise it at 5th gen able device then it is a good proposition i think

[ivory dagger]

It's also weird because the sub brand is an awesome value and possibly the best

[steep jolt]

Yeah no idea what they're trying to do with Konkr. Seems like a waste of time creating a sub-brand.

[zealous mauve]

exactly - the konkr pocket fit g3 model is insaaaane value

[ivory dagger]

It just makes it confusing that your main brand is now being advertised as overpriced lol

[zealous mauve]

and once the elite model has driver support

even more insane

[atomic moat]

Never miss a chance for "World 's first" 🤣
they ignoring the R46H

[zealous mauve]

where did this screen come from btw

like what device used it originally

1280x960 isnt a super common resolution

[steep jolt]

No idea.

[azure thicket]

Even more If the rest of the device is well built

[ivory dagger]

Advertising the cooling system because you picked an old, power inefficient chip that needs it is certainly a choice

[zealous mauve]

tbh this honestly just feels like a device aimed to attract people who want a h700 device that's a bit fancier looks/build wise

like this is the rg40xx h for people who want a fashion accessory

[versed shore]

Faster than 40XXH / Cube XX that's for sure

[atomic moat]

just waiting for the price , how long the stream going to go 😴

as long as it is priced well against the mangmi etc it will sell despite the naysayers.
And please no extravagant packaging and high shipping cost

[zealous mauve]

yeah no definitely but

its not doing any extra consoles than those ones realistically, apart from a bit better n64/dc

[ivory dagger]

I'm just wondering where retail price ends up, because that might be stupid

[zealous mauve]

and upscaled ofc

point is that youre gonna end up playing the same games on this, because youre not getting 6th gen stuff

[zealous mauve]

indiegogo shipping ruins it too

for the pre-retail prices

[fervent mica]

Not the same screen, R46H 1024x768

[versed shore]

Yeah but they're not saying that

[atomic moat]

yea, but not the world first 4.2" 4:3 screen

[zealous mauve]

bro this 4.2" 1280x960 panel isn't even on panelook

panelook has legit every display ever wtf

[versed shore]

Seems like a custom order

[zealous mauve]

surely not for a $100 device, im crying\

why would ayaneo do that 😭

[versed shore]

They're planning a DSi XL clone maybe?

[zealous mauve]

inb4 rpmini screen situation 2.0, kidding of course but

[versed shore]

Ahead of anbernic

[ivory dagger]

"We had to use a G90T because we blew our budget on the screen. Please buy out product."

[zealous mauve]

they truly make some baffling business decisions

yeah no this panel has gotta be a custom order

[atomic moat]

still possible to be the one kitsune previously linked? the srgb slightly higher but that can varies among panels or just marketing. screen size often get rounded off as well
#🔥│upcoming-chat message

[versed shore]

TBH that's the kind of thing I'd only expect from ayaneo

[zealous mauve]

there is not a single device or existing panel that's 4.2" and 1280x960, let alone 500 nits max brightness

[zealous mauve]

oh what the hell

wait i may be stupid hold on

[versed shore]

Pocket Vert is also looking up to use some obscure 10X DMG panel

[zealous mauve]

????

why is this so funny to me

[tribal tiger]

not sure if this is a joke but it's the Analogue Pocket screen, nothing obscure about it

[versed shore]

Oh didn't know that

[pearl helm]

This thing has active cooling too 😞

[ivory dagger]

It's like a mystery box. 80% of the time it's black, the rest of the time it could be any color

[zealous mauve]

i love alibaba / taobao listings

[pearl helm]

Hmmm I still want this I think 🤔

[zealous mauve]

ayaneo bag pocket

[atomic moat]

not sure how well their loads of software going to run well on a 2gb device

[ivory dagger]

Still advertising PS2/GC/Wii

[zealous mauve]

gotta be misleading atp

i hope no one buys this hoping to play 6th gen

inb4 ayaspace enables g90t overclocking/extra wattage

[ivory dagger]

Yeah, this is AliExpress storefront levels of advertising

[pearl helm]

Is this going to be like when the rp classic was announced and the g1g2 or whatever ended up being better than everyone thought

[atomic moat]

its just saying there are no black borders for ps2/wii

[pearl helm]

Although that was a new untested chip

[zealous mauve]

bit different, g1 chip wasn't in any other devices

we know how the g90t performs\

not well.

[ivory dagger]

Lol, Arthur is on stream complaining that he wanted Qualcomm but they cost too much

[zealous mauve]

and with how these helio chips are, theres nothing ayaneo can do software-wise to make it perform much better

[pearl helm]

I dont mind paying for a Qualcomm in this 🤣

[zealous mauve]

cooling it will help sustained performance but it's still not strong enough to do gc/ps2 reliably

[tribal tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/birthday-day-let-down-sad-bad-day-celebrate-gif-6086793

[atomic moat]

i don't think this is targeted at people who want to do gc/ps2 reliably

[ivory dagger]

The translation was "If you want high performance on this product, I would have to say I'm sorry."

[green temple]

this better be 100

[ivory dagger]

And confirmed G90T

[zealous mauve]

but theyre advertising it as capable - people are going to buy this expecting that performance

[zealous mauve]

HAHAH

why does this read as an admission of defeat

it sounds like hes aware this really isnt that great value

[pearl helm]

Can it do dc n64 upscaled reliably… if so I may still get it as that’s what I’m after. And arcade

The screen sounds nice

[green temple]

if they price it right this could become the ultimate rp2s replacement handheld

[rain pendant]

Ngl, I wouldn’t have minded a Qualcomm in this for $150 lol
But I’ll await judgment until I see the price on this

[pearl helm]

18w charging better than anbernic too

[zealous mauve]

sus

that is not what notebookcheck has lmao

also isnt geekbench compute CPU-bound??

[green temple]

chipset should be great for n64 and below, probably handles 4x upscale no problem right?

[ivory dagger]

He's really harping on the GPU lol

[zealous mauve]

not the targeted chipset choices lol

[rain pendant]

It was going to mainly be for N64 and below even if it was G99 imo.
The price is the most important thing here

[zealous mauve]

god these benchmarks are so misleading

[rain pendant]

If it’s anything above 100, it’s doa

[ivory dagger]

I think this might make more sense for the Chinese market because they do more Android gaming? But at the same time he's marketing it only for emulation 4:3

[zealous mauve]

exactly - this would honestly make more sense being 16:9 bc then it's a great psp handheld

[green temple]

if early bird is a 100 I might get this

[atomic moat]

close to what notebookcheck has from what i can see, with some minor variance

[ivory dagger]

See I can say all this but also it looks outstanding compared to anything at this price design wise

[zealous mauve]

yeah no to be fair, ayaneo rarely misses in aesthetics

[ivory dagger]

Wait, he's spitting, he has a point on the shaders

[zealous mauve]

like if i was in the market for an n64/dc handheld, i would pay more for this just bc it looks nicer

[ivory dagger]

Those are GPU bound I believe

I use a RG Cube for those currently, I'm tempted to switch

[pearl helm]

Yes why the rp classic struggled

[flat robin]

plays Wii too? did we get the power of G90T wrong earlier?

[zealous mauve]

fair but then they shouldve found an OLED panel 😭 so that you could use CRT beam

[zealous mauve]

no, it will not play wii well in any capacity

[green temple]

Do we know the colors yet?

[zealous mauve]

128-bit??? 🤔

[ivory dagger]

Final fantasy X as the PS2 game

[ivory dagger]

He's advancing the console wars

[zealous mauve]

also wtf theyre advertising vita capabillity

[rain pendant]

Shaders is a valid point to have the G90T on here instead of G99

[zealous mauve]

this thing will not do vita, surely not

[zealous mauve]

that is just straight up a blatant lie lmao

[ivory dagger]

Finally have honesty

[zealous mauve]

barely

this is not running gt4 lmao

[zealous mauve]

or twilight princess

[green temple]

reminds me of those Angry videogame nerd memes

[ivory dagger]

He's saying now that only some GC/PS2 will run

[zealous mauve]

is he gonna say anything about the fact he put vita there 😭

[ivory dagger]

It can probably run like Binding of Isaac

[zealous mauve]

oop price reveal

[atomic moat]

well this is definitely false marketing, especially with regards what its competitors can run. unless he comparing against h700/rk3566/a527

[zealous mauve]

100 usd for 3gb, as expected

so prob 90 usd for 2gb, which is not worth it

[pearl helm]

But can it run Amiga

[hot steeple]

Hmm, actually makes it a little more appealing

[zealous mauve]

do not get an android device with 2gb ram

whys he kinda got a shiteating grin rn

[green temple]

what if it supports linux down the line?

[flat robin]

is he going to call and wake up the executives today too?😁 and reduce the price further

[hot steeple]

Charging speed is one of the biggest problems I have with my rg cube

[versed shore]

It's mediatek though

[zealous mauve]

on a helio? def not

[ivory dagger]

He didn't even show a spec sheet with 2gb yet

[zealous mauve]

85usd early bird, okay thats a good price

[ivory dagger]

Ooh nice

[zealous mauve]

if you get this early bird, youre getting a good deal then

[rain pendant]

Oh wait, the $90 and the $100 were the regular prices?

[zealous mauve]

btw this is assuming price parity between china and global

[rain pendant]

I honestly thought those were gonna be the early bird ones lol

[zealous mauve]

$90 wasnt actually revealed for 2gb

[green temple]

https://tenor.com/view/monkewait-gorilla-eating-meme-monke-siegemonkewait-gorilla-wait-gif-22185671

[zealous mauve]

i was just guessing

but $100 is the normal price for 3gb, yeah

[rain pendant]

Still, this is a better deal than I expected

[devout edge]

So much hate here lol

[zealous mauve]

"maybe you have no idea how cheap it is" hEs cAlLiNg uS dUmB

i did not know ayaneo streams were this awkward lmao

[ivory dagger]

Huh, he said to wait for overseas price

[green temple]

Yeah because people wanted an rg476h competitor, which clearly this isn't

[zealous mauve]

concerning

[ivory dagger]

Not exactly confidence inspiring

[devout edge]

It’s significantly cheaper though

[zealous mauve]

no one's hating, these are inanimate objects, we're just setting expectations

not the "one more thing" bro thinks he's apple 😭

[hot steeple]

I wanted an rg cube successor tbh, first magicx cancels theirs and now this 😔

[ivory dagger]

I think he said a month to shipping

[green temple]

I personally like this better, I either like to go all in with the ps2 capabilities or not at all

[zealous mauve]

70 usd for the 2gb model EARLY BIRD

[rain pendant]

I’ll be honest here and say that this is surprisingly decently priced for what it is.
Shouldn’t have been so surprised after the Konkr pricing.
What a weird timeline we live in where Ayaneo somehow has a very competitive device at the sub-$100 category

[atomic moat]

if he can maintain the domestic price (~85 early bird/~99 usd) for international without hidden/abnormally high shipping would be a buy for me.
though i still think they should just go for 4gb ram especially with their ayaneo software stack

[flat robin]

very good prices. interested now

[devout edge]

The 476 aren’t really it for ps2 either though… or sure why people would put themselves through that 😀

[fervent mica]

Basically H700 price but more powerful

[ivory dagger]

It's a good price, but might be painful to use the OS

[zealous mauve]

2gb model only worth it if you wanna deal with android jank

[green temple]

people say it can play nearly all of gamecube though

[zealous mauve]

this is all CHINESE MARKET PRICES btw

still no global pricing

they will announce global pricing within the next month

[vestal flame]

first time? that's all most people in the hobby do 😄

[rain pendant]

Which some do on the MagicX 28

[zealous mauve]

fair, but doesnt that also have its own custom launcher?

[green temple]

2gb for android is diobolical

[rain pendant]

Yeah.
So you’d 100% want to use something like Beacon or ESDE here

[devout edge]

Play has different meanings for different people I guess

[zealous mauve]

"2gb can run emulation games" so they know it cant run the actual OS itself? lol

[vestal flame]

2x gamecube on a large majority of the platform at least for me good to see the more t820 pedalling is still ongoing tho, its funny 😄 ps2 is the main problem point ofc, large amount at 1-1.5x but the heavier titles don't cut it

[ivory dagger]

G90T kernel was released publicly a while ago

[zealous mauve]

unrelated but why does nittrx have an australian narrator now

who sounds 16 years old

wait no british now??

what the helly

[devout edge]

Dude is very talented

[reef shadow]

Smooth GT4 on this, really? I have some doubts…

[atomic moat]

1000 units for the discounted ones, for domestic at least

[versed shore]

It's an AI translation+voiceover of bilibili clips, so obviously just junk

[vestal flame]

still, that was a lot of buildup wasnt it 😄

[zealous mauve]

yeah no it sounded decent for a moment then i quickly realised it was a shitty AI tts

[zealous mauve]

yayyy protective soft film

my favourite

[rain pendant]

Gonna assume they just mean a screen protector?

[ivory dagger]

https://youtu.be/i-Gyns-tv8Y?si=_OMlQaP2iBKmTcv-

[versed shore]

Yeah

[ivory dagger]

Same Soc

[zealous mauve]

damn

still, what benefits would linux bring here apart from general OS performance on the 2gb model maybe?

[rain pendant]

Portmaster

[zealous mauve]

oh yeah true

[fervent mica]

Please no DHL/Fedex shipping

[ivory dagger]

Lol he's up to 3000 now

[atomic moat]

huh? he doing the "surprise" thing?

[zealous mauve]

yall should i just bite the bullet and preorder the konkr pocket fit

[ivory dagger]

He keeps upping it

[zealous mauve]

why have they started doing this

the price countdowns too

[reef shadow]

I’m thinking about it 😅

[ivory dagger]

Marketing fun

[zealous mauve]

its so goofy lmao

[zealous mauve]

you dont understand, the igg page has been pinned in my browser for a week now 😭

[reef shadow]

I regularly open the IGG since at least 2 weeks ago 😁

[reef shadow]

Other culture 😉

[zealous mauve]

fair yeah, sales tactics in china are insanely different

[devout edge]

This is actually fine for the price..

[umbral ruin]

I hope shipping isn't $30.

[atomic moat]

another surprise: no extra charge for retro power

[devout edge]

People are upset about it not being a 476 competitor.. but it’s literally like $15 more than the h700 XX trash

[zealous mauve]

lowkey this is the most exciting announcement

[devout edge]

Pending shipping of course

[ivory dagger]

My stream crashed

[zealous mauve]

i am soooo sick of ayaneo overcharging for colours

[ivory dagger]

So nothing new from me

[rain pendant]

I’m not one who values aesthetics too much, but this is also a much better looking device than the majority of those

[zealous mauve]

yeah no this thing will sell based on looks, i feel

[atomic moat]

I am happy with what is revealed for now, only main concerns is possible international markup and crazy shipping fee

[steep jolt]

And ergo. Looks comfy.

[devout edge]

For sure.. as much as I hate to mention the ktr1.. 🤮.. it wasn’t bad performance wise.. if this is that close and at a third of the price…

[ivory dagger]

They brought something new out I think

On stream

Is it the phone?

[rain pendant]

Even the retail prices aren’t bad imo.
Ayaneo legit cooked with the pricing on this.
Reviews will be a big factor on if it’s good or not

I can’t believe I’m saying this about an Ayaneo product of all things, but this could legit be a great first product/gift for people looking to get into the hobby if it ends up being a great device

[atomic moat]

hopefully they will send units out to reviewers before the international sales start since they going domestic 1st

[rain pendant]

Hopefully.
Either way, this and the Mangmi Air X 100% are destroying what should be expected from sub-$100 devices

[pearl helm]

Month! Took a month for the soc

[versed shore]

Gonna be waiting for it to show up on aliexpress for ~$100, cause shipping cost is killing the value otherwise

[rain pendant]

Idk why it took so long for us to get near perfect N64 under 100

Other than RP2S

[little cove]

If they offer 4px this could be tempting, if it’s the usual expensive DHL shipping Ayaneo does I’d rather go 476h

[umbral ruin]

How does this chip perform?

[versed shore]

Better than T618, worse than T820

[rain pendant]

It’s similar to the G99.
Slightly worse cpu, better gpu

For what this will mainly play, it doesn’t really matter

Better gpu is nice for shaders apparently