AYN Thor

[torpid reef]

oh wow it's smaller than a N3DSXL? 😳

[errant dome]

shorter and thiccer

[left kiln]

Its thicker but not as wide

[torpid reef]

that render isn't taking the shoulder bulges into account it seems

so even thicker than that really

[errant dome]

its not

youre right

[left kiln]

Yeah it just gives you an idea of the footprint of it

[wispy fjord]

Is the 25.6mm not measuring with the shoulder buttons?

Hm, maybe not

[fading anvil]

the 3ds in the comparision is the new 3ds

[torpid reef]

nah definitely not

[fading anvil]

yea it doesn't count the shoulder buttons

you can see the little guideline ends at the bottom of the body

[wispy fjord]

Yeaaah.

[wispy fjord]

That does make it clearer, ty

[torpid reef]

np

[wispy fjord]

The Ayaneo is fucking ginormous

[torpid reef]

it is yeah

I have a N3DS and an RP5 and I'm wondering if I should sell both of those and just buy this lmao

[elder wing]

So its more like 27 to 28mm with triggers

[wispy fjord]

Wait, I just noticed the render has lanyard holes. Immediate points in my book.

[fading anvil]

I'm putting my mini v1 and my screen kit up for auction tonight

[rare rampart]

I'm debating if I sell now or later to be honest

But my smart side of the brain is saying just wait for hands on reviews

FOMO is a interesting bug

[wispy fjord]

I wonder if they make lanyards with thumb bits for capacitive touchscreens like the phat DS lanyard did for resistive.

[fading anvil]

my mini's been collecting dust for months and I've probably used it less than the number of fingers I have

[cosmic narwhal]

i'm not hanging a 300 buck, 400g device off a lanyard, nope

[wispy fjord]

I'd use it more as drop protection, keep it on while playing

And/or if it can have a touch-bit built in.

[fading anvil]

I'm using it to hold the cute pokemon charms I bought a while back

[wispy fjord]

Used the shit out of that up to my Fire Emblem 3DS.

[torpid reef]

going into photopea and using a third line at the bottom of the shoulder bulge to measure, the 25.6mm section comes out to 0.96 inches while the entire thing including the shoulder bulge comes out to 1.17 inches, so going by that ratio (25.6/0.96)*1.17, the thickest part would be around 31.2mm

[rocky sinew]

I guess they haven't mentioned anything about dates yet?

[gentle notch]

Preorders open up next week I think

But that's all we know so far

[left kiln]

Correct. They haven't announced a specific day, just next week

[crude tulip]

should really stay comparable to the Odin 2 Mini tho

[latent roost]

Seen this on reddit

[torpid reef]

top screen doesn't have to be the same size as the bottom screen, it can upscale higher

[jade pulsar]

Am I the only one that doesn't care and stretch the shit out of everything and use the entire screen most of the time ?

[crude tulip]

and for most games it just matters that the bottom screen is there 😂

[torpid reef]

you aren't the only one but you are part of a small, demented minority 😂

[latent roost]

Will impact games like Contra and Sonic Rush if you dont scale the same.

[crude tulip]

like what do I give a fuck if the inventory screen ain't big

[jade pulsar]

I never said I didn't have issues

[crude tulip]

those are honestly the few games where the THOR ain't ideal yet

[elder wing]

Also for DS games, you can always apply stuff like widescreen hacks for the 3d games or fix it with shaders if you want to stretch it to fill the screen more

[latent roost]

Therr are quite a few games Yoshis Island DS and a few more

Hopefilly.DS and 3DS emulators have scaling presets

Then a quick toggle for the few games like that

Its mainly DS that has more games like that

3DS barely any games I can think of

[crude tulip]

I can play the DS games on the RP5+RDS if it comes down to that 😂

[torpid reef]

they're both 1080p so you max out at a 5x integer scale on DS top screen, which is exactly 1280x960, then bottom screen the Ayaneo is 1024x768 so that's a perfect 4x upscale of the bottom screen. Thor is 1240x1080 which is still limited to a 4x upscale if you're going for integers. If you're cool with some overscan croppage you'd lose 4 pixels on either side of the bottom screen but still only get to 960 pixels vertically.

For 3DS you're looking at 4x integer scale for the top screen, which would be 1600x960, and the bottom screen you've got another situation where you'd need to crop overscan on the Thor to get a nicer integer scale than the Ayaneo. Ayaneo does 3x (960x720) but with Thor if you try to go past that you end up at 1280x960 and naturally then you're losing 5 pixels on either side of the bottom screen again without filling it out vertically.

tl;dr neither one of these devices is going to perfectly integer scale either of DS or 3DS

[latent roost]

My post was nothing to do with integar scaling

[torpid reef]

pisses me off even more that the RP Mini never had a 1280x960 display. Would have been so perfect

[torpid reef]

I was still responding to the reddit image lmao

[latent roost]

The reddit image is about sizing of both screens to match gameplay where 2nd screen isnt inventory or map

Nothing to do with integar scaling

[torpid reef]

well then I wasted my time, oops 😂

[latent roost]

Lol

[low lake]

this is realy weird way to do comparision ..while completely ignoring resolution

[candid inlet]

Now that the nightmare of Ayn using the same low quality high latency screen on every 6” device is over, I would love to see a Loki 2. 6” budget device with great ergonomics, the goals of the original Loki but with this Oled screen.

[low lake]

yup there is only really tiny fraction of games where bottom screen for actual gameplay (and most of them are on DS)

[frigid shore]

It's really only for games that span across both screens which is what it's trying to point out.

For the majority that are just a second screen, yeah, it doesn't really matter.

[low lake]

yeah but thats like 2% of all games on these platforms 😄

probably even less

[frigid shore]

Still worth pointing out that it isn't a perfect replacement though.

[low lake]

nothing ever is perfect replacement

imo

now that i think about it the dual wide oled of RP5+ScreenAddon ... could work very nicely for those few DS games

🤔

[frigid shore]

Or a Surface Duo

[low lake]

that isnt ideal for 3ds 😛

but there is even less 3ds games like that

[frigid shore]

I actually can't think of any 3DS games that span both screens just because the screens were different sizes.

[latent roost]

Contra 4, Sonic Rush 1 and 2, Yoshis Island DS, 3 Dragon Quest games, Arkanoid, Space invaders, Golden Son, TWEWY, DB Origins, Mr Driller, Monster Tale, Metroid Pinball

[frigid shore]

TWEWY is never going to feel right not on a DS I think.

[low lake]

well we are never getting thatpressure sensitive bottom panel

[latent roost]

3DS will be unaffected by different screen sizes

Can't think of a single game

[low lake]

tbh the whole reddit posts seems like someone overthing reasoning to prefer pocked ds ... over dozen DS games and "physical screen size"

[latent roost]

Even big.black bars for.tbose select games on DS its not a huge deal

[frigid shore]

I don't remember the DQ games spanning both screens, which ones were they?

[low lake]

tbh big black bars are less of an issue on oled 😄

i know even weirdous doing PSP on RPMini/Cube and enjoying it lol

[latent roost]

And its still bigger than original DS screen size anyways

[wispy fjord]

Do you mind repeating this when it actually comes out?

[gentle notch]

It's actually not that bad

[torpid reef]

I'll forward my own message 😂

[wispy fjord]

Genuinely pls. I prefer scaling as large as possible while still keeping integer for niceness.

[low lake]

could be worse

psp on Zero40

[wispy fjord]

Not like it won't be able to

[low lake]

tbh some of the DS stuff will be tough .. blasted out on bigger screen 😄

especially the 3ds games

even upscaled

[wispy fjord]

But with texture packs, too?

Gorgeous.

[low lake]

smaller screen with better ppi might be better for those

[low lake]

there are some even for ds?

(never really researched that)

[wispy fjord]

Idk about regular DS, but plenty for 3DS.

Like, lots

[low lake]

beyond pokeromhacks

[torpid reef]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[low lake]

yeah 3ds i know

[wispy fjord]

Then yeah, idk about DS.

[fluid cloak]

Im with you bro

We'll disgust everyone together

For games that actually have like continuous screen tricks i do prefer to keep em matching tho

[gritty tusk]

Why not? 16:9 content is roughly 5.2” on Duo 1 and 5.45” on Duo 2”

RP5 is 5.5”

[fallow condor]

It's gonna sound dumb but

Where's the speakers

Are they behind the device? Am I gonna blast whoever is in front of me with game audio instead of my ears ?

[rare rampart]

They are right there

[fallow condor]

Ah

They're gonna fill with grime so quickly

But valid

Not the place I would've put them, maybe above the lstick and abxy

[jaunty hull]

"I paid for all these pixels I'm gonna use every single one of em" ass comment. Lol...I respect it

[rocky sinew]

can’t believe how much aspect ratio crime is going on in here - to jail with all of you!

[jaunty hull]

Lol. I mean My crimes mainly max out at turning off interger scaling.

[gentle notch]

Should use that mindset to make aspect ratio cheats if you ask me

[frozen laurel]

Pillar boxes don't bother me that much, but anything generation GC and up just gets stretched

[winter roost]

this would have been 11/10 for me if it had D-pad on top, but I think I can get over that

[jade pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-right-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-5292336

[winter roost]

Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon with HD texture pack on a handheld is going to be amazing.

[wispy fjord]

Oh for sure, though iirc when I last tried it, too high of a resolution causes ghosting.

Maybe it's been handled since.

[elder wing]

Not me thinking about the Rom hacks to the all the 3ds pokemon games with HD textures and how glorious it would be

[winter roost]

old pokemon games in HD

[wispy fjord]

3DS romhacks haven't super matured due to engine bullshit, to be fair

[elder wing]

Yeah, but the ones I mainly play (mostly the Dio Vento and the rare drayano one) would benefit from hd texture immensely

[wispy fjord]

(BDSP on the other hand...)

But true!

[torpid reef]

isn't there a sick BDSP hack that makes it more like Platinum

[wispy fjord]

Yes, though it's more like Renegade Platinum. I'm being silly. I'm a co-owner of it.

[torpid reef]

well shit!

[wispy fjord]

The "like Platinum" one is currently on hiatus iirc

[torpid reef]

a celebrity in our midst 😂

[wispy fjord]

[elder wing]

OH

Dang

[wispy fjord]

That's why I'm being silly

[elder wing]

Wow xD

I've been meaning to check Lumi Plat for a while, but switch emu has been.... very hit or miss for me tbh xD

[wispy fjord]

Yep. We recommend doing it on a hacked Switch, frankly.

Or at least Ryujinx because Yuzu and its forks are inaccurate as shit.

Either way! It'll be fun to try my own romhack on a Thor.

[elder wing]

Im excited to see how the BDSP decomp goes! I remember hearing about it when it was first announced and was floored to see that it was even possible

[elder wing]

[sudden patrol]

so what are we thinking, is this basically what should replace your RP Flip 2 or does it replace your portal despite having a smaller screen and battery 🤔

[icy atlas]

This easily replaces both

Except for these people that are obsessed with gigantic screens

6" is already pushing it

[elder wing]

I say the Flip 2 more

[icy atlas]

Flip 2 without question

Portal depends on your screen and battery preference

[placid fog]

Skill issue

[elder wing]

The Portal has stronger uses as a streaming device and an at-home device for long hours of gaming

The Flip 2 is just straight up outclassed here

[sudden patrol]

yeah those are my thoughts on the portal as well

it could work as a "use anywhere else" and the portal can just be the one you use at home

[elder wing]

also off-topic but your PFP is fuckin siiick

[latent roost]

Odin 2 Mini, RP Mini V2 and RG477M

And Flip 2

All big size pocketables have been dethroned

[elder wing]

I think it's more of a far less dramatic PSP vs DS situation here

It's comes down to form factor preference

Although this will not replace my Odin 2 Mini, but will act as its cohort in my emulation setup

[icy atlas]

None of those devices are pocketable

[latent roost]

They are for me

[elder wing]

Having both Minis, they're pretty pocketable for me

Especially the RP Mini

[latent roost]

I dont really carry handhelds outside on the go shopping. I carry around the house ornwhen im goingnto someone's house etc

[elder wing]

Odin 2 Mini is just at the cusp of not being too pocketable, but i can still slide it in no problem as my EDC

[torpid reef]

yeah if the RP Mini had an actual 1280x960 OLED screen I'd still have mine. It was fantastic pocketability wise

[elder wing]

It's a slight bigger PS Vita with more power

[torpid reef]

and stick top 😩

and a bigger bezel

and vignetting

[placid fog]

I've got the right brain damage, can't see the vignetting

[elder wing]

Same

[placid fog]

Though I could see Thor replacing it cause completely

[elder wing]

Also idrc about stick vs Dpad on top

I just adapt

[latent roost]

The Thor can easily replace DS, New 3DS XL, RP Classic in my collection

[torpid reef]

I should take a pic like this of my handhelds lol

[latent roost]

Bringing my devices down to 3

Will keep my New 3DS XL though I also habe a regular size New 3DS as well

Tbis just keep going up in price so not worth selling

[torpid reef]

I need to sell my 34xx 😩

I never use that damn thing

[elder wing]

I have my Japanese N3ds XL, so im not selling that. The Thor would replace my DSi XL tho in my daily set up

[latent roost]

I don't like having a large collection

I dont mind keeping original hardware like DSi and New 3DS XL

[torpid reef]

yeah I have a DSi and New 3DS non-XL

[latent roost]

But retro handhelds id rather sell than build a collection. Ive had few devices before which I sold for a profit

[torpid reef]

and a Vita, and an RP5, and a Switch OLED...and a Switch 2 😂

Switch 2 OLED comes out I'm sold

[elder wing]

XD

[latent roost]

I sold my Vita, PSP etc.

[elder wing]

OEM i try to hold on to as that something I can't always find easily

[latent roost]

DS and 3DS are still too unique eben Thor cant fully replicate

Stylus play ain't the same

[wispy fjord]

I still have all my handhelds but my Vita is in semi-retirement because I stupidly got a very funny burn-in on it

[torpid reef]

too many Vita games I want to play that aren't emulatable yet

[elder wing]

Retro handhelds I will sell if another fits my needs

[latent roost]

Stereo 3D etc

[wispy fjord]

(Rawk Hawk from Paper Mario. It was my partner's skype icon because I didn't know you could sleep the screen and keep the call.)

[latent roost]

Most of the games i like have been ported

[elder wing]

Ah yes, old OLED burnin, my belothed

[wispy fjord]

I have one specific one in mind, but someday.

One nice thing about getting a clamshell is sticker space, tho

Not worrying about a grip or covering fans.

[fluid cloak]

oh actually i just remembered

Are both this and the ayaneo going to support video out

i guess it wont really matter since i keep my odin 2 mini semi perma docked for artemis and all that good stuff but im curious

[mystic condor]

any game that requires fast and precise touch input is a struggle on modern touch screens

meteos comes to mind

sadly I doubt anyone's making resistive touch screens in 2025

[grave grotto]

If it was my only device the 8 gen2 would make sense but already have a portal and the main use case for this is da and 3DS. Not sure what I’d emulate that would need 8g2 with two screens

[elder wing]

Wii U

But that still in beta and not everyone wants to do that atm

[grave grotto]

True but I feel like by the time they get cemu up to speed we’ll be several devices down the road

[icy atlas]

I feel like what I'll do is get it and just disable the bottom screen when I play non DS content

But if it's replacing my RP5, shouldn't I just get the SD865?

The questions...

[kind saffron]

Haha. That post kills me

You think you'd run it by some people first

[kind saffron]

I mean there's maybe something to be said about the 8gen2 running 2 screens better

Might not be a 1 to 1 performance wise with the sd865

[icy atlas]

Oh for sure, I just can't see it actually being necessary for DS/3DS

[kind saffron]

Not to mention different packages and cooling

Yeah. No. I'm sure they'd still be fine

To be fair it's all I really need. But I'll sell a bunch of what I have and let Thor fill more gaps

[hushed ridge]

The bottom screen is too small… DS and 3DS games need overscan for integer scale… the sticks probably feel bad… I don’t need it…

[kind saffron]

Haha. But the bottom screen so pretty..I think I've owned every device with it in it. And they were all bangers

[hushed ridge]

I’m sure the screen itself is high quality, it’s just those dimensions

[wispy fjord]

But what if you wanna play GBC and PSP at the same time? :V

[icy atlas]

He's integer scaling 3ds

[elder wing]

Real question here

What color is everyone getting?

Im getting that rainbow one tbh

[hushed ridge]

With the bottom screen usually being 2D sprites? You bet I am

[frigid shore]

But what if...

[elder wing]

.... that's too much for me

[wispy fjord]

Finally. A way to satisfy ADHD.

[elder wing]

One hand, my ADHD loves this

Other hand, my autism hates it immense xD

[sacred gorge]

Why are they calling one of the rainbow?

Because of the skittle buttons?

[wispy fjord]

Skittle buttons aren't even finalized iirc

[sacred gorge]

Then when is it called Rainbow lol

it's just white

[fading anvil]

Grey with full color buttons is the rainbow option

[elder wing]

Pure white doesn't have the skittles button

[fading anvil]

White is still being finalized

[wispy fjord]

Then I misunderstood

[flint pumice]

The community poll was very confusing

I thought rainbow was white

Now I am thinking I should keep flip 2 because the dpad gaming on Thor seems uncomfortable

The grip will help though

[sour hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cube-war-of-the-worlds-war-of-the-worlds-2025-stare-ice-cube-stare-gif-17764644364958943989

Im trying to vision my hands on ayn thor controls

[icy atlas]

white should have plain buttons but they should sell skittles buttons as an add-on

since they're kind of a universal mod people like to do

[icy atlas]

white colorway is not rainbow colorway

[fading anvil]

I like the white with rainbow lettering

[wispy fjord]

The buttons are white vs grey, right?

[fading anvil]

3ds vibes

[wispy fjord]

Matching or off-bit, right?

Matching vs highlight, I guess.

[fading anvil]

The color options are for the lettering on the abxy buttons

[icy atlas]

buttons are white with gray lettering or white with skittle lettering

[exotic bramble]

thats the entire vote

[wispy fjord]

Ohhh.

[icy atlas]

left is for normal people and right is for evil people who hate whimsy and fun

[wispy fjord]

Interesting. I personally like the colored ones, but you could argue that'd be worth getting the Rainbow version for, then.

Colored letters is very n3DS, though.

[fading anvil]

Yea

If the rainbow lettering wins I might be more torn between white and rainbow

[gentle notch]

Was leaning towards the grey but rainbow makes so much more sense

[fading anvil]

oh the all white with rainbow lettering is a new 3ds xl colorway

[wispy fjord]

Ah, that's the one

I'm thinking purple but honestly the white with colored buttons is damn clean

Any word on if shifting face buttons will be a thing?

[fading anvil]

most definitely

oh now I see the vision for grey lettering

it resembles the og 3ds white colorway

[exotic bramble]

they are already doing skittles

[wispy fjord]

I tend to prefer Xbox layout when it's letters because that aligns with my mental layout of Playstation (confirm is bottom, right is cancel, etc).

[sacred gorge]

Grey ❤️

[fading anvil]

ok this might be a little harder to decide

because I'm a sucker for the og 3ds (grew up with aqua blue)

[sacred gorge]

wait

im dumb

lel

[gentle notch]

Oh didn't realize

[wispy fjord]

Has anyone posted all three confirmed colorways in this thread yet?

[exotic bramble]

sigh, lemme do it

[wispy fjord]

That alongside the proposed white would be neat

Sorry and thank you!

[dusk hound]

do that yellowed grey color from the retroid pocket 3

[sacred gorge]

the black rainbow and purple?

yea that

nothing's changed since that last time it was posted?

[exotic bramble]

your all getting this already, eat it or dont

[fading anvil]

I mean it's so split down the middle atp that it'd be silly for ayn not to make the loser face buttons purchasable seperately

[exotic bramble]

vote on this or whatever

for white

[wispy fjord]

I asked if they'd been posted yet or not, genuinely wasn't sure lol

Thank you!!

[fading anvil]

yea I'm changing my vote to white now

[exotic bramble]

never hurts after 8 hrs in an active channel

people cant read anyway, might as well try to help them

[wispy fjord]

[molten harbor]

Wow the vote is very split

[torpid reef]

these straight up look like retroid ads

[sacred gorge]

where is the vote happening

[icy atlas]

i wonder why

[icy atlas]

ayncord

[torpid reef]

you gotta admit it is weird that they're undercutting the price of the RP Mini/5 + Dual Screen Attachment combo

[fading anvil]

meanwhile I'm losing my mind trying to figure out shipping for my mini on ebay

apparently priority flat rate padded envelopes just aren't an option anymore?

[full wigeon]

Maybe because they can financially do it and it will mean sales, the RP5+DS attachment may have also been a tester and sufficient R&D to then develop the Thor now…but if they had both products under Retroid name, the people who got the RP5+DS would probably be super annoyed about it.

Personally an extra screen attachment device, sounds a bit messy…in regards to manufacturing and shipping and sales stuff having it in one device and all sold and shipped as one unit from the start might cost them a lot less than making a peripheral and so they can make it cheaper.

[wispy fjord]

Kirazuki works for Ayn?

[left kiln]

Im a mod there. Not actual staff

[wispy fjord]

Ohhh okay

I only just ventured out of the Retroid server to here, I feel like I'm learning lots

[left kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/a-whole-new-world-aladdin-jasmine-i-can-show-you-the-world-flying-carpet-gif-5187023

[sacred gorge]

that's what actual staff would say

[wispy fjord]

That lanyard is actually pretty slick

[nocturne sedge]

yayyy soft pouch, it will keep THOR being pocketable

[cosmic narwhal]

a pouch is kinda pointless for a clamshell

in my opinion

[covert sparrow]

personally i'll get the TPU shell instead of the soft pouch, feels like it's hardier for impact protection

but then the thought of taking off the shell to put on the TPU grip when using it at home feels a bit annoying haha

[molten harbor]

hopefully they have a package with everything, so I can try all the combinations

I can really see ergos going both ways, the wide flat back might actually be good for ergos, where the TPU shell would be good enough to address any grip (friction) issues, or the TPU grip would make it more like the Pocket DS's ergos, and I'm definitely glad to see they thought of making two cases

[nocturne sedge]

its not, because it protects it from scratching but at the same time is not as bulky as regular protective case, and the screens are protected anyway when device is closed

so it doesnt nmeed extra protection

[molten harbor]

gotta protect it in case you drop it on the hinge 😂

[cosmic narwhal]

i get it, pouches are my favorite type of protection for something i put in a bag

[nocturne sedge]

Fair

[cosmic narwhal]

but for a clamshell i'd either go naked or full case

i really don't care about outside case scratches i guess

[nocturne sedge]

so wait, you can't use two screen protectors at once?

[thorn widget]

no

[cosmic narwhal]

the bottom one would be hell to install anyway

[torpid canyon]

I’d care, especially since I’m going white

[nocturne sedge]

no one will buy bottom one xD its always the top one that gets smudges from touching the dpad and buttons

[thorn widget]

im broke so black boi

[covert sparrow]

i'll be installing the bottom one, since that one is the one with most touch inputs IMO

[thorn widget]

Im looking forward for the 8gen2 one but if ion got no money ill happily take the 865

[torpid canyon]

I have to get it because the games play will require a lot of touch inputs, stylus inputs

[thorn widget]

Stylus add on

[cosmic narwhal]

my rp5 seems really fine without a protector, i feel they use quality glass

[thorn widget]

bro all my rp5 got is a grip

[nocturne sedge]

same and same xD

[thorn widget]

no screen protector no carrying case nothing

just a grip and an sd card

[nocturne sedge]

but I will probably get 8g2, I'm just finallizing buying a new home 😭

[thorn widget]

gonna get this by like next year though

[nocturne sedge]

I will get this one as soon as I move I guess so probably in a couple of months or so

😉

[thorn widget]

because ayn takes like 5 months or something for their products to arrive here on datablitz (philippines)

[nocturne sedge]

but I wont have a lot of spare money so its gonna be a base 8g2

[cosmic narwhal]

i'll get that too if i buy it

i wanted it black anyway

[thorn widget]

if i didnt get the thor its probably because

-I didnt get enough money or
-I bought a different handheld or
-WE bought a ps5 (my family and I)

[frosty bobcat]

Ten should be enough

https://tenor.com/view/torresandwich-gif-26397875

[kind saffron]

Monotone looks so much better imo

But colors always wins

Then it ends up being the worst selling colorway

[frosty bobcat]

You mean about the white color poll?

[kind saffron]

Yeah

[frosty bobcat]

Yeah I agree the white and grey looks much better. I think people initially voted color because they didn't think the "white with skittles" would be available as a purchase option.😭

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Oh well. Maybe they'll sell a white/grey button set. Looks classy as shit with the glass face

[frosty bobcat]

Yeah let's hope so!

[jaunty hull]

props for making a case that considers the grip.

[torpid canyon]

Yeah ayn is generous with it

[teal portal]

grey print gang

hope they eventually do what the 8bitdo does with that sucker and button swaps

[whole jasper]

won't Thor have the same limitation the Pocket DS has of 60 Hz when using both screens?

[left kiln]

Yes

[cosmic narwhal]

it seems to be an android limitation so yeah

[whole jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

hm, I guess the Thor still wins out over the Pocket DS... (for me at least)

[teal portal]

just realized it has two lanyard holes, one on each side

[low lake]

so you can do two lanyards 😄

and do a walk around a town with it and your wife/husdband while both holding it by one lanyard

[teal portal]

gonna double strap and wear it like a backpack actually

[snow notch]

Are still hyping ayn thor as the chosen one?

[whole jasper]

if they use the same plastic Retroid used for their clear model, then this one shouldn't have any cracked hinge problems either, will it? 🤔

I really like my ice green Flip2, but Thor is bringing the hammer down on it pretty heavily for my use case 😅

[thorn widget]

i havent felt this hyped since the mini v1

knowing that I am NOT gonna get enough money to afford it

[low lake]

looking at the accessories .... i might do .... grip , gripcase and softpouch probably (gripcase for when bagged on a trip , softpouch for daily carry)

not sure about screen protectors and tpu

[crude tulip]

THOR, case, done

maybe the lanyard if it's like $2-3

[latent roost]

I've had a quick look at Winlator /Gamehub emulation and im honestly not impressed. There seems to be a ton of tinkering required. You have games from 360/PS3 generation not running well. Even some 2.5d games like Shadow Complex have issues. Ive read stories of people playing a game running decent then a level mid way in a game crashes. As a person who owns a Windows handheld i dont think I will bother with Winlator. So now im thinking if I should just get the 300 dollar model or even 250 model. Im mainly after PS2, Wii, GC. Switch emulation is also pointless for me as I have a OLED Switch hacked.

Are there any decent Android games im not aware of that would benefit higher tier

[crude tulip]

then the base model is plenty, Android games may indeed benefit from more RAM, but if you ain't into some gatcha stuff

[full wigeon]

Alien Isolation.

[torpid canyon]

You’re getting the base model? O.o

[crude tulip]

nah, I said that towards kalosmani

I will get the THOR PRO most likely

still slightly contemplating the MAX, but ehhh... $80 is a bit harsh for the upsell they are clearly trying to pull here 😂

[torpid canyon]

What do you need the pro for? ;))

[crude tulip]

nothing really, but I kinda regret having bought the base Odin 2 Mini 😂

I really don't like having 128gb ROM in such an expensive device

all my Ayn ones are also 12/256

[torpid canyon]

128/8 for 865 is fine

[crude tulip]

really a shame they gone back to that after the Portal had 12/512, that was ideal

[crude tulip]

yeah but I ain't going for the 865 😂

[torpid canyon]

But someone said 8 Gen 2 has better battery life

So even though I only play ds and 3ds

8 Gen 2 it is

[fringe temple]

16/1tb storage isn't a bad price upgrade tho, esp given you'll prob be grabbing a high storage sd card

[torpid canyon]

7nm chip 🤮

[whole jasper]

I have a hacked Switch OLED and Lite, but still like to do Switch emulation on something that is more pocketable or transportable 😛

[latent roost]

Yeah 50 more.for Gen 2 is cool I will go for.that. its the additinal RAM model thats 350 im having second thoughts on

[crude tulip]

I mean, the $50 are well worth it 😂

[thorn widget]

ion think i can get the thor bro

[torpid canyon]

More like 100

[thorn widget]

i forgot gta 6 releases next year we gotta get a ps5

[torpid canyon]

128/8 + 8 Gen 2 just doesn’t feel right

[crude tulip]

oh no, it ain't bad, but still, I would have preferred a 12/512 SKU for lets say $369 at worst over the MAX at $429

[torpid canyon]

Ayn should get rid of its base models and make the pro model a little bit cheaper

[crude tulip]

tell that to my Odin 2 Mini 😅

[latent roost]

Gen 2 will eben help PS2 and Wii games so even if not interested in Winlator the additinal perfomance is worth the 50 as well as better battery perfomance and gamestreaming perfomance

[torpid canyon]

I had issues running skylanders : Spyro’s adventure on the 865

8 Gen 2 would probably breeze through anything that’s wii

[teal portal]

yeah 16/1tb isnt bad since my other sd cards in use and buying another tb sd card is like the same price hike

[frosty bobcat]

AYN will release a 10 screen handheld before GTA 6

[thorn widget]

real

[last pond]

Damn, I was somehow convinced the bottom screen on Pocket DS was 3:2 (maybe it was on x86 Flip)

So turns out, it is possible to get the bottom screen in the correct aspect ratio

On the flip side I think the bottom screen on Thor is OLED, but it's IPS on PDS?

[low lake]

Yes

[covert sparrow]

same, i read some comment saying it's the same screen as the Pocket Ace

but turns out it's not

[sacred gust]

The one with 4.5" 3:2 bottom is the flip 1s which is also ongoing

[honest slate]

Are the face buttons for the pocket DS the same as the flip 1S?

[nocturne sedge]

there are air intakes visible

[honest slate]

The thinness of the main lower body looks so great, shame the only USB is at the front

[nocturne sedge]

the shape really reminds me of og 3ds

[honest slate]

It's a weird lovechild of 3DS and OLED Vita aesthetics

[dusky thunder]

No design on the lid! Thank you!!!!

[nocturne sedge]

you are right! 😄

[sacred gust]

Should put to rest those fears that they just made up renders to snipe pocket ds

[dusky thunder]

Now the cancellations will begin rolling in 😅

[frosty vine]

again

[dusky thunder]

To be honest though. I will order both. Decide which i like better and sell

[elder wing]

Outside the triggers, this thing looks super flush man

[dusky thunder]

Or keep both if i am crazy 🤪

Would love to see a software demo

[sacred gust]

still waiting for Odin 3 details to decide if this, pocket ds or just get RDS for rp5

[elder wing]

Like ngl, this looks like what a DS/3DS successor could look like (minus OLED)

[nocturne sedge]

I love it, it looks retro and modern and the same time

[honest slate]

For the past 2 days I've been so mixed between the two
Pocket DS:
Larger battery + larger screens + back USB + No risk of OLED burn in on the lower screen + more lower screen buttons

Thor:
Cheaper + Lighter + Aesthetically nicer + what look like comfier controls + more Vibrant lower screen + 3.5mm Jack

The chipset differences are w/e but 8gen2 will probably be the better winlator machine. Anything I'm missing?

[frosty vine]

Price & one of them is aya neo

[honest slate]

Most of ayaneo's software issues are x86 OS related, right?

[elder wing]

Honestly, I haven't heard much OLED burn in with a lot of the more recent devices we've been seeing. I think the tech has developed enough to find a way around it nowadays to where that's mostly a non-issue if you're not cheaping out

[honest slate]

True, but the risk is still there especially with how old the panel is

[frosty vine]

Their android software is crap, they abandon support very quickly & they have case cracking issues with their non-hinged designs

[nocturne sedge]

Maybe additional point for Ayaneo - hinge reliability, if we are going by Flip 1 & 2, the Retroid/AYN ('s outside designers ;D) don't have the best track record

[frosty vine]

They also have the worst customer service out of any of them

[low lake]

ayaneo is fascinating

[frosty vine]

There's a reason it's a meme

[low lake]

the have cool hinges
but have cracks in regular plastic

[honest slate]

Hinges are so hard to get right it seems, only the RG SPs don't get flak for them

[low lake]

i have seen coplaisn about rg sp too

[frosty vine]

same, but not many

[low lake]

tbh ultimately ... cant be worse than GPD Win 2 😄

[lavish crypt]

Fuck that black model looks so good

[low lake]

and that lived through lo with me ... including two reshellings due to borked hinge

[honest slate]

Company rep aside, the design of the Thor hinge looks sturdier with it being full width, I didn't like the 2DSXL-style hinge of the pocketDS

[frosty vine]

Have they shown off if it's DS style or laptop style yet?

From those real shots it looks like it could be laptop style, parked at a pretty acute angle there

[lavish crypt]

You can see the hinge pretty well in that second shot

I hope review units go out soon

[nocturne sedge]

I have deja vu again

[frosty vine]

Really hope they have a way to couple/uncouple screen brightness between the screens, hope we get a look at the software soon

[lavish crypt]

Yea def super interested in seeing the software in action

[sacred gust]

Calibration of color temperature as well, if it's not well calibrated out of the box

[wheat creek]

worst case scenario is it's a rp flip 2 with better screen

[frosty vine]

Per screen too

[sacred gust]

A dual screen handheld just using the same two 16:9 screen would leads to a lot less hassle

[honest slate]

Less hassle, more wasted space

[sacred gust]

But if the controls are not covered when the screen is down a lot people going to complain I guess

[frosty vine]

21:9 top, 16:9 bottom

[snow notch]

any red circles i cant see

[rocky sinew]

Black looks really nice, torn between that a Rainbow

[honest slate]

Rainbow fits the 3DS aesthetic better but glossy black glass is timeless

[left kiln]

Jigg has to be a bot at this point 😅

[honest slate]

Huh, the 865 version only outputs at 1080p

[tender granite]

Jigg is THE bot

[honest slate]

The White colour option just made this choice harder

Also, Linux support is advertised on the product page. Interesting

[torpid canyon]

I actually took my sweet time

30 seconds late

[frosty vine]

Discord compressed the shit out of this for some reason, but it shows off independent brightness control, there's another slide that says this menu is available at all times, hope it's a hardware button

[elder wing]

Eugh hold up

[latent roost]

If only they can sort out Android limitation of displaying 12phz and 60hz at the same time

[frosty vine]

There's also a toggle to circumvent the battery & power it directly from the wall

[latent roost]

Because these 2nd screen features is limited to 60hz id avoid as id want 120hz for better input lag with all my games excluding ds and 3ds

[honest slate]

Do any of the DS/3DS emulators support BFI?

[elder wing]

Last ones were shit quality

[latent roost]

Its not about BFI though even PS2 and Wii dont support BFI but want 120hz for lower input lag

[frosty vine]

No, gamma did make an apk for systemwide bfi on the 477m tho so that might be possible

[elder wing]

Maybe the retroarch DS, but 120Hz for these are still good for lower input delay and visual clarity

[honest slate]

Wow, that'd be incredible

[latent roost]

I'd be basically using Thor as a Flip 2 and ignoring 2nd screen for 80 percent of the time

Due to this limitation

[honest slate]

Same, glad I skipped the flip2

[latent roost]

In fact if they did a Thor without 2nd screen and positioned the D Pad better id get that instead

I just want thor for a compact 120hz OLED device with SDG2

[elder wing]

I blame android

[honest slate]

Does android even support 3 screens or will video out cut power to the secondary?

[elder wing]

But also, im surprised the Android devs haven't gotten this shit sorted yet with all the new foldable and flip phones spewing everywhere

[rocky sinew]

the color choice is challenging

[frosty vine]

650 nits on the top screen, wicked bright

[honest slate]

They can probably achieve that due to the top lid acting as a heatsink

[frosty vine]

477m also gets up that bright, beautiful but makes my eyes hurt pretty quick lol

[honest slate]

Wait, it's the pocket DS with a metal lid. The Thor might be plastic

[fresh pivot]

Dealing with one big screen is definitely not the same as dealing with 2 physically separate screens.

[low lake]

cuts power , at least from what aya said .... coonecting it to TV turns off th bottom screen

[sour hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

One year warranty

[low lake]

more than you get through IGG and same as ever single comoany that does these

[honest slate]

Longer warranties would jack the price up

[sour hedge]

They are not playing around

[low lake]

obvously after a year , you sell yours and then buy Thor Portal instead ... into perpetual yearly ycle of upgrades

[cosmic narwhal]

it looks so thin and sleek in those irl pics, damn

[celest rune]

the little second screen will be touch screen right ?

[cosmic narwhal]

yes

[celest rune]

so we can use it like a mouse or a keyboard right?

[cosmic narwhal]

if anything i'd be more worried about the top one not being touch

but they should both be

[celest rune]

and they will tell us next week ?

[left kiln]

Of course they're both touch lol

[cosmic narwhal]

i'm probably just confused by the jankiness of the wii u emulator thing on the rp extra screen video

[sacred gust]

is that "AYN" on the bottom edge a button or something?

[honest slate]

Yes

[sacred gust]

cool, at least 1 button to help with management for the dualscreen i guess

[torpid canyon]

Reviews end of of September. Probably.

Or rather “first-looks”

[sacred gust]

would be funny if international people get this earlier than the pocket DS

[torpid canyon]

EB will last almost two or two months

[left kiln]

Its shipping mid October so there's a chance lol

[low lake]

i would say pretty likely ... ayaneo is usually supper random on shipping

[vapid rain]

White with grey buttons won
We already got the Rainbow color option referencing the New 3ds, White with grey buttons winning means we also have a reference to not just the DS Lite, but the og 3ds 🙏

Peak color lineup all around. Only thing that'd make it even better is having more transparent colors

[torpid canyon]

RIP to those 815 voters..

Losing with 49% must suck

[fluid cloak]

Pain

For them

I dont really have much of a preference

[jolly wadi]

i woulve voted grey print

[left kiln]

It'll be worse when I ban all of them for making the wrong choice 😏

[torpid canyon]

I guess they can still ask support for rainbow buttons from the grey model

[torpid canyon]

All bark, no bite ;))

Do it

[vapid rain]

Now that we know the specs and color options for certain, what model and color you guys going for? Doesn't have to be bought rn, just if you plan to get the Thor at all
I'm going with a 12/256 Clear Purple

Want the higher performance and ram for higher-end systems and HD Textures performance

[vernal zinc]

yeah if you want colourful buttons buy the snes one

the colourful letters on the white one make an otherwise sleek and minimalist colourway look very fischer-price/anbernic

[torpid canyon]

this guy gets it

[vernal zinc]

but also if I get a thor I'm going for the snes one

[jolly wadi]

im still undecided

[torpid canyon]

so the early bird lasts like 50 days

which is after reviews drop

so just wait

there's no incentive to order early, unless you want the handheld asap

[vapid rain]

The Rainbow option is also balanced out by the grey/black dpad and sticks which makes it look less fischer-price than it otherwise would

So going with grey labels for the White makes a lot of sense

[vapid rain]

Can't order early even if I wanted to anyways x3
Irl be the biggest of ops

[blissful widget]

Same flawed hinge design as the flip2 with the sharp inside corner on the small plastic tab holding the hinge element

[vapid rain]

For their sake, they better be using higher quality plastic.
Main reason the non-Ice Blue color options on the Flip 2 got cracks is bc they cheaped out on the plastic

[blissful widget]

Yeah if they used pa66 like whats in my power tools itd be fine, but that 90 degree inside corner concentrates stress.

[vapid rain]

AYN is supposedly aware of the hinge issues the Retroid Flip 2 got, so time will tell if they did anything to improve it.
Even just using higher quality plastic would help a lot

[blissful widget]

The trouble is, I can't test the plastic by looking at a photo but I can see if they haven't fixed a design flaw.

[vapid rain]

Yeah...

[latent roost]

I think im going to wait before I jump on this if im unable.to return my RG477M or sell it. This way i can see how the hinge holds up

[wheat creek]

https://anbernic.com/cdn/shop/files/RGSlide_b64586b5-a94f-43cb-ae50-c364268296f2.jpg?v=1755156165&width=800

colored buttons look awful here imo

glad gray won

[hearty charm]

Supposedly? 🤣🤣🤣 They use all the same parts and factory at the least. They are the same company at most

[honest slate]

I'm team colored buttons but with the rainbow model I think grey buttons on the white is only fair

[vapid rain]

Semantics, semantics...
You get what I'm saying here :p

[snow notch]

Damn already sold out

Which one of you rich people brought all the stock?

[vapid rain]

Rather funny they priced the Thor so closed to the Flip 2 though.
So much for the Retroid and AYN love story /j

[fluid cloak]

Wait, it was up for preorder??

I didnt even realize lol

[hearty charm]

New people. Lmao. They put the page up and it's listed as sold out until it goes live. First time ordering a pre-order? 🤣

[fluid cloak]

Ohhh ok that definitely threw me off there

[vapid rain]

I am dead certain dekum is joking there

[fluid cloak]

Thought i missed an announcement

[vapid rain]

Pre-orders up on Monday (or Tuesday depending on your time zone)

[hearty charm]

This happens every launch. It's 99% of the time not joking

[fluid cloak]

If he was he got me with it lol

[vapid rain]

It's more how it's said and the follow-up that makes me think it is.
Has nothing to do with whether people do this every launch or not lol

[snow notch]

I'm joking

[kind saffron]

Pretty sure those are the vents. Intake is the one on the bottom. But yeah. It exists at least 😆

[kind saffron]

Hinge panic aside. I might go white for once this time

[rare rampart]

I'm going black again

Wish there was a grey

But I realize now I'm a solely black device collector lol

Unless there is grey

[vapid rain]

I think the Rainbow option is meant to be grey?
It looks like a darker shade than the actual White option when I look at it on the website

[rare rampart]

Yeah but the buttons 🙁

Honestly if anything best color scheme is black gamecube

[vapid rain]

Could always swap the buttons out I suppose, but that depends on if you even wanna do that x)

I am by no means a hardware tinkerer and won't dare try to open up and modify a clamshell 🗿

[rare rampart]

Or Panda actually...

[rare rampart]

Yeah I'm not opening up a clamshell

The og Nintendo Ds was enough of a pain.

[dusky thunder]

Have they said how long the early bird prices are until?

[frigid shore]

Until shipping.

So we have months.

[vapid rain]

I don't mind not paying the early bird pricing. It's only $10 off for every config except the Max model

Which is complete overkill for my needs anyway

[rare rampart]

Yeah compared to Pocket Ds

[frigid shore]

Review/early units going out mid September apparently so we can potentially see some first looks and still get early bird.

[rare rampart]

The EB pricing difference is much smaller

[vapid rain]

Ayaneo use actually decent pricing challenge:

[dusky thunder]

Ah sweet. Will wait till payday then

Wont rush in head first 😅🤪

[vernal cloak]

Tempting to pre-order this and finally get both a dual screen and a PS2 capable device... but the history with the hinges on these devices is so darn flimsy, it's best to wait at least 3 to 4 months. Dang.

Also, that clear purple looks pretty sweet. If it's the only model with good plastic like it was the case with the Flip 2 and Ice Blue, then at least I won't feel bitter to be forced into it.

[hearty charm]

There's no pressure to pre-order this. You can take time to see how it holds up. Only 10 dollar savings. The pocket ds was worth the pre-order because the price difference was much larger

[vernal cloak]

Oh, the temptation wasn't because of the 10$ discount, it's simply because it looks so darn good and I've been holding off for months getting a PS2 capable device to wait for the one. Because this looks like it, I am getting a bit antsy.

[hearty charm]

Agreed. I just pre-ordered the pocket ds. Still getting this 🤣 one will end up on marketplace

[vernal cloak]

Understandable. I don't want to get into the resell game myself, so I have a hard limit of four of these devices, only getting a new one if another breaks. I'm already down two, a pocket one and one for PSP and below, so the pressure to pick well is real... but also, damn it, I get excited over all of these just like everyone else. It's hard 😅

[low lake]

oh i remember the times when i assumed "35xx,SDeck, RP3+ and GPD Win2" are all i will ever need and that those 4 will cover everything 😄

[honest slate]

Non of those had ds or 3DS covered with dual screens but for anything else they are sufficient

[hearty charm]

Luckily I'll still be under 4 devices 🤣 sold everything I owned to get an F1 pro and have a pocket micro

[vernal cloak]

Keyword being, I expect some of them to break at one point or another

[hearty charm]

But yeah. Same boat. I have an awesome x86 and very small device. Just need the mid range

[vernal cloak]

And getting a dual screen and a PS2 capable device in the same go still leaves me a whole spot free to be dumb!

[hearty charm]

China is happy to feed our dumb moments 😅

[honest slate]

The playdate is a good dumb extra device

[kind saffron]

I dunno. Whites banging. I might take the risk. Just looks so good with the glass and grey

2nd pick would be purple

Not really a skittle guy. And I'm assuming smudgy Ayn black will be a thing

But yeah. This might be my hh of the year assuming no major flaws

[honest slate]

Massive assumption for an untested form factor

[kind saffron]

Clamshells?

Pretty sure those exist

[honest slate]

Sorry, not form factor, architecture as a android dual screen clamshell

[kind saffron]

I mean I can do it with my phone right now

I just plug it into a display

Like nothing here is really novel besides putting it in the same plastic shell technically

Technically it should just work. It's more the hinge that worries 😆

[elder wing]

Understandable, which is kinda why I'm hoping these devices succeed so more support for proper dual screen devices can come our way via the creators or android themselves

[kind saffron]

Or maybe thermals

Ayn does tend to do ok thermal wise in the past tho

[honest slate]

Ideally it should but both the Thor and pocket DS will require some sort of software solution for controlling the behavious of the secondary screen and that's when the cracks could show

[kind saffron]

Dual screen software will be new but hopefully easily update able if issues

[low lake]

tbh ultimately i only really the emulators to support the dualscreen stuff 😄 and that already works

[kind saffron]

Software won't be great day one. But I have faith both Ayn and Ayaneo won't abandon it immediately

They kinda need these to work

[low lake]

but some people wants other stuff out of it 😄 So they need more nonemu software stuff than me

[kind saffron]

It's more so if the stuff they added to turn displays on and off or whatnot end up not working. Like even if only interested in DS stuff like that'll matter

[honest slate]

Yeah, If I hadn't seen evidence of emulators working well on android with a second screen then I wouldn't touch these devices

[snow notch]

That's too much time to impulse buy

[kind saffron]

[torpid canyon]

This thing will have big face buttons

[frozen laurel]

I like big buttons and I cannot lie

[honest slate]

But like all things in life, moderation is key. There's always 'too big'

[rare rampart]

Yeah I preorder for the Pocket DS because retail price ain't it

[rare rampart]

tbh I'm more worried about Ayaneo vs Ayn on that

AYN can take a while to fix stuff

[brazen minnow]

If only...

[rare rampart]

No experience with Ayaneo though the amount of device they release worries me when it comes to support

[brazen minnow]

Same goes for Anbernic.

[balmy vortex]

Man this thing is appealing. Fixing to sell all my HH stuff and hold out for one.

[vast ibex]

Why must you do this to me

[hushed ridge]

Are those sticks comfortable for something like Smash? They look like they really wouldn’t be

[bronze orchid]

While I'm a fan of white w/ Skittles, this goes hard

[devout forge]

ayn thor 2 should have the mortgage screen which mean both screens should be 120hz which would ultimately fix the 60hz locking problems

I guess there are still ways to upgrade for a new generation of ayn dses

[raven river]

how confident is Ayn on the hinges on the Thor?

[devout forge]

Well they probably wouldn't say they aren't confident now would they?

[raven river]

true... pretty tempted to pre-order but i'll wait for reviews and updates in 3 months? post release

[frozen laurel]

All my chips are in, preorder for sure

Especially now that I see Gamma has taken an interest

[rocky sinew]

now the hard part - picking a color

[frozen laurel]

Gimme that purple drink Thor

[sacred gorge]

Oh so rainbow and purple are exclusive to the pro model

[jaunty hull]

tbh, they made it easy for me.

bezellless bottom screen means visible black bars on anything that isnt black.

[flint pumice]

I know it’s nitpicking and a few months ago we had zero dual screen devices. But I wish it had a 4:3 bottom screen. Because the only use case of the bottom screen is for DS/3DS which are 4:3

[jaunty hull]

no 4:3 OLED screens exist.

[rocky sinew]

Yeah I'll probably end up on black because it's the most "practical" for the bezel/OLED aspect

but I do like that Rainbow a lot too

[flint pumice]

There is for Surface Duo but too big

[jaunty hull]

and we saw what happened when retroid tried.

[flint pumice]

Hope the Retroid mortgage screen is real

4-5 inch 4:3 OLED will be super useful for many devices

[jaunty hull]

tbh. I kinda wish they added some form of small bezel to it and it woulda improved it, but I get it, they wanted it to be more premium feeling with bezellless.

[last pond]

Same, but I wonder if it's worse to have the bottom screen non-OLED

If we're talking games like Contra 4, you'll have different color reproduction between the screens

[round quest]

I think the Duo's screens are 4:3 when put together but not 4:3 when separate

[frigid shore]

They're 4:3 seperate and 3:2 opened/combined.

I know that doesn't math out on paper, but it doesn't render the gap from the hinge.

Or rather, it accounts for the gap and doesn't render that section so it's a bit wider.

[sacred gorge]

Single displays are 4:3

[icy atlas]

It does though

4:3 + 4:3 vertical is 4:6 = 2:3

[left kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[frigid shore]

...you know what, that's right, I was thinking 8:6 because dumb, ahaha.

[round quest]

I mixed it up with the samsung fold I think lol my bad

[hushed ridge]

Alright, hear me out…

Top screen: 4.318x (4 + 7/22) scale

Bottom screen: 5x integer scale (cut off 4px on each side)

This would make both DS screens the same size, just with the top screen being slightly blurry, but the large scale would help mitigate this problem anyway. It also keeps perfect scaling for the bottom screen which is more important for touch controls

Without any filter/shader stuff, that means the top screen would have every fourth pixel be 1/3 bigger

[sacred gorge]

Keep in mind, the duo does have pretty big bezels

[hushed ridge]

Oh, I’m talking about the Thor

[sacred gorge]

Meant to @ the message before yours

[hushed ridge]

And using a 4x scale on the game itself would probably be even better for 3D, but it would be the same or worse for 2D

[kind saffron]

I've honestly never had a big software problem with them of course I've only owned their latest Gen stuff. I did have to open my DMG and put actual thermal pads on it tho

Yeah. I've never been a ratio stickler. As long as I can make it a size my eyes can see

[upper sail]

Eh, hopefully the Pocket DS will have the ability to change the looks for each screen independently via the AyaSettings on launch (so basically being able to tune the contrast and saturation for both so that they’re more visibly equal to each other).

But regardless, I’d also already expect the same from Ayn since you can have different color reproduction between 2 different OLED screens (it’s not an OLED+Non-OLED only situation), where 1 could by default be worse in saturation and/or contrast than the other, and it’s up to the devs to either “tune both their settings to be more equal” or “give us users a way to tune them ourselves”.

[round quest]

Yeah this should be a very good solution

[cyan verge]

This is what i like one week from reveal to sale.

[wispy fjord]

Could someone please ask how easy it will be to get inside to swap buttons? Could a newbie to disassembly do it?

Also I assume "Odin Mode" in their little control center is Xbox controller mode/drivers?

[jolly wadi]

oOoOo i do like to keep an eye on the performance metrics

[kind saffron]

I just love the fold flat

It's honestly how I find my G1 most comfortable

[remote moon]

It'll also come with the crap customer service if something goes wrong

[kind saffron]

Customer service is always a risk

[upper sail]

Ah yes, like the all time favorite of the community.

[flint pumice]

I have a flip 2 and surface duo. Not sure what to do with Thor 😂. I love all of them. I want to buy Thor but I should get rid at least one of the other ones.

Flip 2 is probably better for dpad gaming than Thor with the inset dpad

[kind saffron]

Here I am trying to figure out what the Thor can't do that id need to keep something for 😆

[upper sail]

In all seriousness, I’m honestly wondering if they’ve actually been cleaning up their customer support team, because I’ve now seen 2 different people be nothing but positive about their experience with their customer support, both of which apparently even ending up with a free extra battery for their respective devices (in the event their first one goes bad) and a properly working unit.

[kind saffron]

At least on the android side

[upper sail]

Like, I’m still a bit honestly doubtful it’s particularly good, I’m expecting it to at the absolute best be on par with Ayn’s more mid moments, but I won’t lie when I say I haven’t had to personally talk with them in general, much less recently, so I can’t personally claim whether it’s still good or bad.

[flint pumice]

Thor can do almost anything but it’s not the best for some things. Dpad gaming for example is probably not ideal on it.

[wispy fjord]

Aside from fighting games, what other games are often dpad focused?

[flint pumice]

Older systems

[icy atlas]

this is a particularly good one

[flint pumice]

All 2D systems like SNES and GBA

[wispy fjord]

Suppose so. I'm a weirdo who uses joystick anyway unless it's menus. But I can get the want for original feel.

[hybrid mulch]

Steam deck taught me how to play old systems with sticks

[flint pumice]

Sure for certain games that’a fine. Using sticks to move around characters are ok, maybe even better

Maybe the grip will improve dpad gaming

[rugged orchid]

I also like to use the stick for old games, like SNES or Gameboy. Unless you have to be very precise with your input.

[flint pumice]

Interesting. I have to say I never tried using sticks for older games

Maybe it’s not that bad

[hybrid mulch]

Grinding levels in rpg with stick is really nice. So much easier for my thumb

[flint pumice]

I also have RP Classic so i have those covered too

The main thing is GBA which I enjoy playing on the flip 2

Playing on the Classic is slightly smaller image (3.6 inch), still quite a lot bigger than the original GBA (2.9 inch) though.

[kind saffron]

Yeah I'm quickly approaching the being flexible over owning 10 handhelds phase. Heh

[flint pumice]

I think I’ll keep surface duo because I just got it and I think it’s still better than Thor for DS games that don’t need much buttons inputs

Touch only games on surface duo without external controller is awesome

[gritty tusk]

I have Pocket DS preorder. Still debating whether to keep it or Duo 2. Obviously Pocket DS will have a bunch more power but Duo 2 has been great for 3DS and DS. Handles everything game at 2-3x for 3ds..

Duo 2 is dual oled 5.8” 4:3 displays with both running at 90hz. Kinda hard to go back to bottom lcd for pocket ds and as for thor, smaller displays

[flint pumice]

Right. The screens of surface duos are amazing. I haven’t played much with external controller yet but for the little I have tried, I find it a bit cumbersome. It’s also bulky and heavy. Surface Duo + GameSir G8+ weights over 600g. It’s more a steam deck category than a 3DS.

For that reason Thor really appeals to me. 380g and 3DS size is perfect

I should probably just play surface duo for a month or two before deciding on Thor since I just got it.

[low lake]

looking at the surface duo 2 prices here 😄

i could probably buy both pocked ds and thor

[gritty tusk]

I have 479g on duo 2 with x2s which is my preference over the bulky g8+

i use g8+ only when streaming which is seldom to this device

[flint pumice]

I got X2S too thanks to your suggestion! I will use both depending on games

Thor is typing

[silent notch]

Guys, what you think the battery life will be like in the 8gen2 pro version?

[gritty tusk]

Here in states duo 1 is like $280-$300 and duo 2 is like $400-600 based on condition

[flint pumice]

You should know

[gritty tusk]

@flint pumice nice bonus with duo is you can pocket easily without controls. Use it lone screen mode for touchscreen gameboy games, use as e-reader, note taking, esim for calls, etc.

[flint pumice]

Yeah I am loving Surface Duo. I don’t think I’ll get rid of it for Thor. The question is more about keeping flip 2 or not.

Especially now with the flip 2 hinge issue I have option to get a refund.

Feels wrong to do that though

And I love the flip 2

[gritty tusk]

@flint pumice if you love flip 2 then keep it but it has same power level as surface duo so lots of overlap

[whole jasper]

I'm keeping the flip2 until I can afford the thor 😅

[flint pumice]

I haven’t done much higher end emulations yet. The power of SD865 is enough for most of my use cases.

[gritty tusk]

Surface duo is SD855. Fairly similar to SD865. You’ll get 1x native PS2 emulation and 1-2X on gamecube.

[crimson berry]

Boys, I’m in a predicament and need your help if possible. I’ve been watching all these retro handhelds for the past year through various channels such as Retro Game Corp, Wulff Den, Joey from RetroHandhelds, etc. Throughout my time watching, I haven’t bought any device yet (been primarily Steam Deck/PC for all my gaming) butI just enjoyed keeping up with the community. Seeing such avid people keeping our passion alive is amazing.

Finally, we come to today and I think I’m ready to pull the trigger on either the Thor or the Pocket DS. I’m leaning more towards the Thor, but I wanted to get y’all’s thoughts to see if that’s the way to go. I like the form factor of the Thor more than the Pocket DS but the battery and power difference on the Pocket DS has me second guessing. What would you recommend if you were in my shoes? Please let me know!

[rare rampart]

Same here but I taste 4x resolution once on the Gen8

Nom nom nom

[jagged jay]

With every image i see of the thor, i can't stop thinking: "I want that thing and i want it now"

[left kiln]

The power difference is negligible in real world performance. Pick whichever device will suit your more based on the size, screen etc

[rare rampart]

Power Difference?

[left kiln]

The g3x gen 2 has a beefier gpu

[rare rampart]

IRL if you're talking retro gaming 8Gen2 has better compatibility

[low lake]

but worse driver support

[crimson berry]

is the chipset not a big difference? I know the 8gen2 is really good and pulled from the Portal

[rare rampart]

So both chips are evenly matched to be honest

[left kiln]

Yes driver support is better on the 8g2 for sure

[flint pumice]

For me personally smaller size, weight and cheaper are the reasons I choose Thor over Pocket DS.

[rare rampart]

Battery Performance is the main difference tbh honest

Oh and one screen is LCD on the Pocket DS

If that is an issue

[flint pumice]

Ayn vs Ayaneo is also an issue. Ayn seems to have much better reputation from what I can tell.

Better customer support

[rare rampart]

Ayaneo has a habit of spitting out new products

So often times we're talking about 1 year of support from what I seen

AYN on the other hand has slower support in terms of software

[left kiln]

You mean the 11 devices AYA announced in their last livestream 😅

[rare rampart]

I remember when AYN took half a year to fix a snapping issue with the Odin 2

[crimson berry]

yeah the size of the Pocket DS is kind of big no lie and screen looks like overkill with the 7inch screen

im probably going to go for the Thor then, excited to see when its slated to ship!

[rare rampart]

I preorder The Pocket DS for now

And keeping an eye on the Thor

Reason being the Early Bird price of the Pocket DS

[flint pumice]

I read shipment is October

[crimson berry]

ooh even better then!

[rare rampart]

If anything though you can wait

Early bird price for the Thor is a difference of $10 except for the highest end

[crimson berry]

Yeah, the hinge is a bit of a concern to me given what has happened with the Flip 2

[rare rampart]

Early bird price for the Pocket DS is like... $100+?

So yeah....

[crimson berry]

I might just wait for Russ's review before I offiically pull the trigger

Retro game corps is the goat!

[flint pumice]

I did that for Flip 2. I preordered as soon as I finished seeing the reviews. It was still considered preordering.

[rare rampart]

Lol same

And then I sold my Flip 2 the same day I got it HAHAHA

[flint pumice]

Why?

[rare rampart]

Yeah even with reviews sometimes you just need to get it in your hands

[rare rampart]

Ergo didn't feel right to me

I was comparing it to the Rp5

So it was a either or question

[crimson berry]

I think the grip is necessary for all these devices for ergo concerns

[flint pumice]

I find flip 2 quite comfortable. I think it depends on the hand sizes too

[rare rampart]

The issue I had

Specifically was trying to use the Trigger while also using the buttons on the bottom

[flint pumice]

RP Classic is rather uncomfortable to me but i got used to it

[rare rampart]

Was a bit of a stretch for my tiny hands

[flint pumice]

The triggers on the flip 2 are weird for sure

The triggers on Thor looks the same as flip 2

[rare rampart]

Yeah that has me worried

Also both devices have the buttons in line with each other which isn't great

Was hoping for a more V shape

[lavish crypt]

i find the triggers really easy to utilize on the flip 2 but i don't have small hands

my index fingers naturally rest on the l2/r2 when i hold it

[flint pumice]

I find it ok to use but feels weird

[icy atlas]

Thank God the Thor has better controls than the flip 2

I can't hardly reach the buttons on the flip

[molten sand]

hmmm

[dark aurora]

Dont put too much stock in it.

[jolly wadi]

The hinge is reinforced, just not the plastic

[lavish crypt]

How small are your hands lol

[icy atlas]

incredibly

my thumbs are exactly 2" long

[icy atlas]

omg mee

[elder wing]

Basically

If AYN can use a better plastic than Retroid, we should be set

[icy atlas]

its very interesting to me how its really not the hinge itself that is the issue on these devices

its the quality of the plastic shell

[cloud aspen]

I’ll be sure to swing my 380g $300 device around with the lanyard

[icy atlas]

the lanyard is not for the carrying

the lanyard is for the aesthetic

the lanyard is for the love of the game

[elder wing]

I remember watching a retrospective on the 3DS and learning that some of the issues with the resin they wanted to use were due to not only the possibility of it falling, but also the hinge possibility shattering the resin layers and making a major health hazard.

[icy atlas]

people also underestimate just how much pure engineering went into making the ds/3ds viable systems

[errant dome]

i thought part of the issue was how the metal inside the plastic was hitting the plastic shell

[rare rampart]

Lanyard is for when you need a weapon.

[icy atlas]

Kind of. Like a good plastic won't have that problem anyway

[errant dome]

rubber handheld when

[hushed ridge]

Time to get one of these

[wispy fjord]

Do they unclip at the base?

[hushed ridge]

Probably not, but you could get something to make it latch on/off to a lanyard loop

Or keep it on your keychain so it doesn’t get in the way since this system doesn’t have a dedicated stylus holder

[river salmon]

Has AYN had "Bad" releases before where there needed to be a V2?

[fading anvil]

I’m really excited for the Thor

I’m just unsure if I want to go for the 865 or base 8g2

[supple mason]

id get the 8g2, the extra power could be nice in the future

[vernal zinc]

I think it depends whether this is an NDS/3ds only handheld for you or if it’s gonna be your main squeeze for everything including switch

If the former get the 865, latter get the s8g2

[supple mason]

if you do want switch, i think you'd want the 12gb model to be safe

[vernal zinc]

Yeah, and at that point 12/256 plus a 1tb microSD is not much cheaper than the early bird max

[supple mason]

the price ladder is crazy haha

[vernal zinc]

So I’m on the fence about getting the 865 or the max lol

The middle options don’t appeal to me personally

[supple mason]

max also has the benefit of better winlator in the future with that extra ram

[vernal zinc]

Often price ladders just convince me the max spec is the good one but then it’s out of my price range and I just don’t buy

The bottom skus being black only makes me mad

[supple mason]

yeahh i think its lame when they do this

ayaneo especially is worse with the color tiers

[vernal zinc]

A rainbow 865 would be such an easy buy for me

[supple mason]

it would look like the ultimate n3ds

[errant dome]

max AND a 1tb sd card

[vernal zinc]

why do you need 2tb of storage

[supple mason]

winlator and switch games could max that

but its a lot of storage

[errant dome]

keep all emulation on sd card including ps2 , gc, 3ds, other big file format games

fill up internal with stuff like pc games and android games

also vita installs in the internal

[gentle notch]

Just in case

[fading anvil]

Wait the 865 and 8g2 base are black only

[frozen laurel]

The base models

[fading anvil]

That is so disappointing

[rare rampart]

You guys keep mentioning 1tb

And I'm thinking to myself man I haven't even filled up 128gb

[river salmon]

It happens fast with 3DS/WII U if you have more than 15 games

[wispy fjord]

Hasn't for a while now

[placid fog]

I want to try to use the Thor as an everything device from GB/GBC/GBA up to PS2/GC/3DS so I'ma load it up with entire libraries

Gimme that 1TB

[errant dome]

really? can you change it? i still install vpk

[wispy fjord]

You can change the base install location since v12

[errant dome]

thats good. for the next one

[jade pulsar]

No Thor logo anywhere?

Actually glad it doesn't have one anywhere

[cosmic narwhal]

on the flip 2 it almost felt intentional that they made it so stupid ugly, as if they wanted to prove their bosses that no one wants a design on the lid

[elder wing]

To which

they were proven correctly

[red cairn]

I spent all this god damn effort selling my gpd win mini so I could get the odin 2 portal during the brief window that the tarrifs were lifted and now they go make this thing thats exactly what I want so now I have to sell the odin 2 portal

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner2049-blade-runner-angry-god-damnit-confused-gif-15118091

This

[sleek ledge]

i think ayaneo and ayn should trade the names of their flip devices. Thor makes more sense since the ayaneo is much bigger and has a faster chip. The Ayn is smaller and actually more pocketable??

[gentle notch]

Odin has one eye

Thor has two

Loki is invisible

[red cairn]

I changed my mind. 6 inch 120hz oled is fucking dope

[wispy fjord]

All right, y'all. I can't afford both so I'm canceling my RDS to get the Thor.

Gonna do purple and the lanyard and sticker it all up nice.

[red cairn]

who wants to buy my odin 2 portal 1 TB

[wispy fjord]

#💬│marketplace-chat , I think?

[sleek ledge]

I think the Thor is great for emulation but I think the PDS gets you that last mile of performance for Android games

[elder wing]

So...

I may have converted my Partner into getting the Thor LMAO

[left kiln]

Not really

[wheat zodiac]

Yeah getting the 1tb and putting a 1.5tb microsd in that sucker. Gonna have all my music and pretty much the entire RetroAchievements catalog on there.

[wispy fjord]

I may just end up moving entirely to the Thor, so the 1tb micro SD I already have is going to do well

[vapid rain]

I'm just gonna have the games I know I'll play and have played, so I might get a 512gb card.
Doesn't mean I won't also try out games I've never played before, but at least starting out, rather not spend too much on an sd card x3

[sacred gust]

for 3ds emulation, is there ways to combine updates/DLC together with base game file similar to switch (with SAK etc) ?
I assume updates/DLC cannot be installed/stored to microsd.
to save internal storage.

[kind saffron]

Yay it's up

https://retrocatalog.com/retro-handhelds/thor

[wispy fjord]

Isn't the entire install in the portable folder the user chooses?

[sacred gust]

ah ok, so the entire "user directory" can be on microsd?

thought it will be similar to yuzu and some other emulators where installed updates/dlc, or texture packs, mods etc is in some android data folder on internal storage

[wispy fjord]

It should be portable for Azahar

[placid fog]

You can also force an SD card to be 'internal storage' on abdroid right? Just won't be readable by other OS

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, but then you're also at the mercy of getting all the files onto it from the Android device

[placid fog]

I think you can still access it by plugging in to a PC just like the normal internal storage

[wispy fjord]

Oh, true. I've always found that to be bothersome since it tends to slow down rather quickly but

[red cairn]

I am so fucking hype and barely understand why