AYN Thor

[frigid shore]

I don't know, I think a lot of people were willing just for a second screen during the Flip 2 leadup.

[low lake]

why boring?

[fringe temple]

Many people in the community are cheapskates sadly @frigid shore but we'll see how it goes. Exciting to see them work on it 🙂

[lavish crypt]

not as much tinkering

i like the tinkering part

[low lake]

oh thats better than i expected

[low lake]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-you-kinky-chief-gerald-fitzgerald-cedric-yarbrough-paradise-pd-youre-kinky-gif-16418386

[latent roost]

Even without the 2nd screen, just the upgrade from 5000mah 5.5 inch 60hz to 6000mah 6inch 120hz is a big deal

[fringe temple]

i still wish the battery was bigger but i get their reasoning for the ergo/weight

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Let's the sticks and buttons actually stick out without wells. They could have recessed the top screen to do that as well, but I've always found it super annoying with android gestures so I'm kinda glad they didnt

Dude. My Samsung just had a brown spot grow in the middle this week. Sucks

[last pond]

It probably makes sense, but might look weird when closed

[kind saffron]

Oh damn. Kinda curious what the price diff will be. I'd be fine with both honestly

Both can DS console. Both can Linux. Hmmm

[last pond]

Yeah, the fact that both can theoretically run Linux is huge

[kind saffron]

I guess if you wanted to scale or run more filters the 8g2 would be better

[kind saffron]

I would have paid the $80 more or whatever for it

[frigid shore]

My concern would just be, if I'm pocketing this and sit/squat with slightly tight pockets, would the potential pressure on the lifted corners bend/crack the top?

[kind saffron]

Feel like most people would. The people buying Ayn/Retroid devices aren't the same ones buying the 80th rk36 device

[kind saffron]

Need to see an IRL example. Im guessing the gap isn't that huge

[latent roost]

I wish they release variations of both D Pad on top and what this is. I'd go for D Pad on top easily. Maybe that would be the differentiating factor for the eventual Retroid Pocket DS

[frigid shore]

I think the consensus was most people who wanted the Flip 2 during all the teasing would pay the $50~$80 premium for a second screen version.

[latent roost]

I think Retrpid Pocket DS would be basically the 5.5 inch screen instead and D Pad on top

And SD G2 Gen 2

[kind saffron]

I can handle dpad as long as it's above the midway line. So glad they didn't do double sticks top or bottom. That would have killed it for me. Only time I enjoy double sticks bottom is when they can be inset more but bottom screen won't allow a dual shock like layout

[viscid ferry]

Was tempted by the Aya Neo as I havea few of there devices but was umming and arring whether it was too big. Very excited by this for DS and 3DS -is there a rough price for the 865 and will it be an indiegogo I need to keep an eye out for?

[latent roost]

I wish Android would allow 120hz on top and 60hz on bottom at the same time thats the only limiting factor of this device but I can live with this ill just turn off the bottom screen for all emulators excluding DS and 3DS

[kind saffron]

This will def actually slide into a pocket. And won't look like a tumor doing it

[vapid rain]

The 865 if priced well might genuinely be an even better purchase than the Flip 2 even if you play single screen systems on it.
Idk if Android lets you turn off one of the two screens, but if you can, for single screen systems you’re getting a Flip 2 with a bigger screen and larger battery, which is super nice

[kind saffron]

To be fair, it's probably a limitation they've just never thought about. Like no device has existed where separate refreshes would be a benefit til a couple weeks ago. Heh

[vapid rain]

I’m curious to know how battery life is on this with just the top screen turned on

[jolly dune]

Aya allow it via software would imagine Ayn will have an implementation too

[kind saffron]

All these are also running several versions of android behind. It's possible newer versions don't have the limitations but it's not like we'll get an upgrade

[tropic sundial]

Do we really expect this to be roughly as thin as the 3DS XL? The measurement is roughly the same as the thinnest point on the RP flip 2 and that thing is chunky

[latent roost]

Should be better than a Flip 2 with its 6000mah Vs 5000mah

[steel rune]

Rocknix team is going to really busy researching dual screen support on Linux

[kind saffron]

Not allowing single screen would complete defeat the purpose of the 120hz screen

[upper sail]

They’re measuring from the thinnest point on the Thor as well.

[snow notch]

did we get any more details besides reveal trailer?

[latent roost]

Not only that but the 120hz lower input lag screenand BFI feature

[jolly dune]

SD 865 or SD 8 Gen 2

[kind saffron]

Nah. No shot. Not with stacked shoulders

[upper sail]

So I’d imagine this will be as thick as the Flip 2 by the triggers, and the main thing would be that it’s only that thick at the triggers, there isn’t a slope for the rest of it.

[gritty tusk]

This is showing measuring at thinnest point. I expect at least 30mm if accounting triggers

[kind saffron]

It won't be as thicc as the pocket DS tho

[latent roost]

Id rather them focus on resolving sleep and resume issues first

[frigid shore]

I hope the triggers are a bit more sloped than the Flip 2 ones, was my one real complaint.

[vapid rain]

How pocketable that is depends on the kinds of pockets you have.
I’ve seen some people say they can put the Flip 2 in their pocket perfectly well, but also seen people say they don’t find the 35xx SP that pocketable bc of the thickness, so… x3

[devout forge]

god dayum she thick

[upper sail]

Also won’t be as big in general.

[kind saffron]

Yeah for sure. But the thickness with the grips def killed the pocketing for me

[upper sail]

Meaning the screen as well wouldn’t be as big.

[vapid rain]

I might find this pocketable given how I have basically zero issues pocketing the chunky 35xx SP, but hard to say

I haven’t had protruding triggers in my pockets like that

[gritty tusk]

I don’t even find my modded gba sp at 25mm too pocketable. It’s too bulky / bulges.

18mm and below thickness is the sweet spot for me as pocketable

[devout forge]

and this ladies and gentleman is why inline triggers actually don't suck and are actually important

[kind saffron]

To be fair I think they're the same thickness 😆. 35xxsp not exactly thin

[latent roost]

Im in the minority but I would habe preffered inline shoulders like the 3DS

[tropic sundial]

No shot that’s pocketable 3DS xl is already at the limit of my pockets

[frigid shore]

And no top screen etched in logo

[vapid rain]

If that’s the case, then yeah, I should be able to pocket this 👀

[latent roost]

If they made another model with D Pad on top and inline shoulders this would be perfect

[vapid rain]

Really nice

[snow notch]

everyone acts like your evil if you perfer inline shoulder buttons

i like my box shapes

[tropic sundial]

It will be good for a bag though. I’m still interested but was hoping for 20% thinner than the flip2

[jolly dune]

https://tenor.com/view/right-to-jail-jail-parks-and-rec-right-away-fred-armisen-gif-16902115

[vapid rain]

Even just being able to easily carry this in a bag is nice imo given the form factor protecting the screens and buttons

[left kiln]

I think you were hoping in vain lol

[latent roost]

For me there are 2 types of pocketability. Every day carry pocketable like a Miyoo Mini where you pocket when out and about shopping etc. And then there is pocket around the house or take it in a pocket when going round someone's house. Im in the the latet category I like pulling it out when im in the garden or in the lounge which I cannot do with the Swotch or Ally

[jolly dune]

https://tenor.com/view/manbag-murse-friends-joey-handbag-gif-9542551

The solution to all your woes is a man bag

[frigid shore]

Having to pull it out of a bag is one extra step that prevents me from pulling it out at all personally, ahaha.

[gritty tusk]

I find switch oled pocketable for around the house stuff. Detach both joycon and that tablet goes in diff pocket

[frigid shore]

And I carry a bag everywhere.

[tropic sundial]

My usbc size comparison gave me hope!!!

[upper sail]

Same solution for the Pocket DS and several other handhelds that aren’t Odin 2 Portal sized (and that device was almost able to fit in my bag, the problem being that the controls made it too wide.

[tropic sundial]

I want one fr

[gritty tusk]

If you’re going to bag the Thor and going for SD8G2 (assumedly priced with Aya Pocket DS), why not just go for the Aya at that point since it’s 7”? The space savings in a bag would be minimal

[tropic sundial]

Hopefully money savings

[frigid shore]

I was going to say that, but dual OLEDs and stuff I guess.

[upper sail]

Well yeah, that’s why I’m getting that instead.

[kind saffron]

Audio jack, dual OLEDs, thinner, more pocketable size, Linux, optimized drivers, comfier thumbsticks

[upper sail]

I’m getting this to have an actually portable Odin 2 Portal. I’m still interested in the 6” screen, but I’ll probably be waiting for the Odin 3 on that instead.

[frigid shore]

I always say that if I'm bagging a handheld then the acceptable size range becomes way larger.

[kind saffron]

It's not like there's no reason

[upper sail]

Debatable on that last bit.

[frigid shore]

Applies more to the candybar space since there are so many options there of course.

[kind saffron]

I could understand for the bigger screens. But the more powerful chipset is largely wasted imo without higher refresh screens, and I'm not gonna pay for 2 screens I don't use

[upper sail]

Design of the cap is definitely more comfy, but they both have basically zero off-set.

[upper sail]

…You do know know that the bottom screen for the Thor is also 60hz right?

[kind saffron]

The only people I've seen say they enjoy Ayaneo's mini sticks are people who foam at the mouth on excitement when Ayaneo's price is higher than expected...

[kind saffron]

Yeah. So I don't need winlator. I'd take Linux and better driver support instead

Also better standby power draw

[upper sail]

You’re talking to someone who already replaced the mini sticks.

[kind saffron]

Gross

[frigid shore]

I mean, the caps are swappable on the Flip 1S so I assume the same for the Pocket DS.

[upper sail]

Exactly.

[kind saffron]

But it's not the same

[frigid shore]

Like, with the Retroid caps even if you wanted.

[kind saffron]

They're literally embedded in that well

Good luck changing caps without hitting edges

Or having them stick out which won't work either

[frigid shore]

Russ literally put the Flip 2 caps on the Flip 1S.

[kind saffron]

Like the clearance is tiny

[upper sail]

Already has Linux support on the Ace, with more on the way. And driver support is already a lot better than it was with the Pocket S.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I'll have to rewatch. It seems massively small

[kind saffron]

Sure. And it's been coming to the o2m for a decade

Just cause it shows up somewhere doesn't mean it continues showing up 😆

[upper sail]

It’s the same sized well. You know you can just say you want to get the Ayn handheld over the AYANEO one right? You don’t have to rack your brain to come up with arguments?

[kind saffron]

Always safer to just get a system that'll support it out the door

[upper sail]

Like, that would already work well enough as an argument.

[kind saffron]

Lol. You found one argument that may be false cause none of us have any in hand out of 6, and then say the rest don't exist. GG man. Buy what you want 😆

The rest are still valid

But go off chief. You seem to really want the pocket ds

[snow notch]

Why not be like everyone on the subreddit and buy both devices and never use them?

[upper sail]

What do you mean 1 argument, most of the ones you just said have been subjective at best.

[gritty tusk]

My personal take on this;

Audio jack I don’t use, I use bluetooth all the way - lag be damned.

The bottom display is not 4:3. i like the 5” 4:3 bottom even if IPS. Watch YT stuff on top and PS2 and below on the bottom. Even 3ds and ds bottom screens are 4:3

again, the thinness and pocketable doesn’t matter to me if it’s a bag handheld.

Linux is a win for Ayn but apparently Aya is working with devs on this too.

Thumbsticks, i guess subjective. As long as no cardinal snapping, I’m fine

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I mean it's all subjective. But it's not like they won't matter to some

[prime pivot]

if Thor battery is 8000mah, then i will consider

[upper sail]

Dude, why’d you ping him for the same message twice?

[kind saffron]

It's not like there's NO reason

[lavish crypt]

its 6000

[kind saffron]

There's reasons. Just depends if you care

[prime pivot]

ayn plz give option 8000mah

[kind saffron]

Probably just discord lag. Happens sometimes

Some people hate Bluetooth audio with a burning passion

Some people can't stand LCD screens anymore

[gritty tusk]

Sorry on train, the connection is shit lol

[kind saffron]

Some people hate mini sticks (tho maybe fixable)

Some people actually want to carry it in their pocket

[upper sail]

No, I’m just saying that you literally could just save time and effort by saying “I don’t want to get something from AYANEO” and literally no one would fault you for that. Like, there’s no need to try and argue anything else, that should already work more than well enough.

[prime pivot]

bluetooth audio if latency isn't too bad, it is okay.

but if it's very bad, then it will destroy gaming experience.

[left kiln]

To make a smaller device there will compromises and the battery is one of them

[kind saffron]

shrug

[frigid shore]

In fairness, he only said "Debatable on that last bit." and not that the rest of your points didn't matter.
I know RNS is usually pretty argumentive (no offense), but this time you're the one that went off, ahaha.

[prime pivot]

im sad D:

[kind saffron]

Sorry. He just made it seem like brand matters to me at all. I give zero brand shits as long as the device has what I want

Well and I imagine I can squeeze support from somewhere hopefully

[upper sail]

Ah, yeah no then that’s fair enough.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. It's all good. Happens sometimes. Saw red

But like. There's reasons for both. Personally if I was going with the Ayaneo and it'd never fit in a pocket anyway, I'd get the x86

[frigid shore]

Not at HX prices though

[upper sail]

Also yeah none taken. In general I just don’t like acting like one handheld is obscenely better than the other unless it’s objectively provable as that (like the difference between the KT-R1 and most other Android handhelds, or the Gameforce Ace and…literally any other handheld in general).

[kind saffron]

Of course I'd want the 8840u which they stopped selling and won't give any info on. And I think are quietly letting die to push people to the hx

[upper sail]

Fair enough then, and yeah the only reason I’m even getting the Pocket DS is to replace the O2P, so unless I want to give up the 7” screen and 8000mAh battery for a 6” one with 6000mAh, the Pocket DS is the one that’s more my speed.

[gritty tusk]

I think I started all this. Sorry guys. I did say I didn’t see much reason for Thor over Pocket DS if both are bag handhelds.. but to some, the extra versatility in size and linux support is more important than screen size— which is fair

[upper sail]

Eh, Pocket DS still should also have Linux Support, so I’m not too worried about that.

[frigid shore]

It's kind of nice we even have enough options for dual screen devices to bicker about it honestly.

With potentially more to come.

[upper sail]

Size will definitely be a deciding factor though.

[upper sail]

Agreed.

[vapid rain]

Yeah, think there's multiple factors when picking a handheld for bag carrying, mainly what kind of items you put in it.
Of course, if you have pockets that can fit the Thor and aren't bothered by the thickness, it's a no brainer

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I'd maybe only be 50% confident. Like even if the chipset is figured out to support it, it doesn't always show up to all devices equally. It probably will because DS is the new hotness but it's not always a guarantee

Is there even a Linux handheld that handles lid closing on arm?

I guess the cheap ones

[upper sail]

RG 35XXSP and 34XXSP.

[kind saffron]

Yeah

[vapid rain]

I think I'm potentially in the camp where I might be able to fit the Thor in my pockets based on what I find comfortable to pocket, but won't know for certain until I have one.

[kind saffron]

Wonder if 2 screens add to that complexity

[upper sail]

Both of which do have Rocknix support, so the software is there as long as they don’t use substantially different hardware for the lid detection.

[fringe temple]

me too 😄

[low lake]

which is one of the reason i am kinda icky about ayaneo despite sitting on 8840u order 😄
tehy way they are handing the launches of Flip 1S and Pocked DS jsut feels so icky

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Still probably needs an update. I mean to be fair it needs to be reworked for almost every handheld that isn't basically an Anbernic clone in different shell

[bronze orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/the-book-of-boba-fett-din-djarin-this-is-the-way-the-mandalorian-pedro-pascal-gif-24828674

[kind saffron]

If I were you I'd be slightly worried on getting support and repairs in the future. But maybe it's a non issue as hardware is pretty standard

[vast ibex]

I just have to keep telling myself I don't need the Thor, I can make due with my O2M and the Retroid screen.

[lavish crypt]

just have it all

thats what i plan to do

[upper sail]

Because I like using them. I still use my Miyoo Mini every so often just for the hell of using it.

[vast ibex]

I don't have the funding for that kind of life style

[frigid shore]

Maybe not if they're unable to source 8840u boards/parts anymore 🙃

[north willow]

If you're here it means you must order one. Give in to the Darkside

[vast ibex]

Well, we'll see. Do we have a price yet?

[upper sail]

Nope, just speculation alone.

[north willow]

I'm speculating $350 to $400

[devout forge]

yeah that's the general consensus for the 8 gen 2 variant

[low lake]

tbh ... i kinda generally dont expect any kind of support from any of these chinese handhelds 😄

[crude tulip]

Yes, I will definitely get the 8g2, but depending on the price a 2nd 865 unit would be tempting

[vast ibex]

I'll take a random shot in the dark: $375 for SD8G2 version, $300 for SD865 version.

[lavish crypt]

eh if i am gonna pay the premium i am gonna get the 8g2 haha

[low lake]

i am waiting on the Odin 3 info reveal (if i will have the itch to upgrade there or not)

[upper sail]

You know what? That sounds pretty reasonable.

[crude tulip]

$249 865
$329 8g2

was my guess

Maybe $10-20 more, but not 50, then they would sit in Ayaneo waters

[north willow]

Hopefully it's a single SKU and 12/256 minimum

[signal ridge]

Can anybody point me to where Ayn confirm the bottom screen specs? I didn't see it on the discord.

[round quest]

Sd865 does okay with wii u so far, barring both. I think there are good chances it will do well with cemu once the software matures more

[crude tulip]

865 will definitely only be 8/128
maybe the 8g2 starts as a 12/512 option

[lavish crypt]

@signal ridge

[north willow]

Is it supposed to have both chipsets on offer ? I missed that memo

[vast ibex]

Beat me to it

[lavish crypt]

yea

865 and 8g2 variants

[north willow]

Yeah no way I'd go 865. It's fine but no

[signal ridge]

Thanks, didn't notice bottom screen text.

[frigid shore]

For once it wasn't just a cheaply rendered reflection

[vast ibex]

I think if there's a decent enough price drop from the 8G2 version, it has a niche. As opposed to the D1100 from the RP4 Pro and the SD865 for the Flip 2 where it was like a $20 difference.

[north willow]

Yeah it was a no brainer on the Flip 2

[jolly wadi]

I was hoping for the newer chipset

Hype going down…..

[lavish crypt]

there is no need

a newer chipset isn't going to bring much to the table

[north willow]

The G2 has so much support I wish it was in the Pocket DS as well

[torpid canyon]

That’d be fantastic

[jolly wadi]

If it keeps cost down, I guess that’s good

[lavish crypt]

its not like the 8g2 doesn't stil max out hardware perf in most cases on android lol

[north willow]

The performance difference between the 2 isn't that significant either

Evo vs Portal

[vast ibex]

I thought I'd like Rocknix, but the loss of the Android sleep mode just kinda killed any interest I had after setting it up.

[north willow]

Sleep mode is my number one requirement

[round quest]

I have said this for multiple devices now but there really is a use case for non analog triggers. The N3DS has the ZR and ZL buttons inline to keep it pocketable, and I would prefer that for this device too

[low lake]

doesnt tha come with android?

[north willow]

Yep but he was speaking on using Rocknix

Linux

[vast ibex]

And Rocknix support is one of the big plus sides to both the SD865 and SD8G2.

Like it's cool to have, and I'm happy for the people enjoying it, but for me, didn't really work out.

[last pond]

I'd say Linux is mostly cool for Portmaster on these

[kind saffron]

Haha. True. It's such a weird excuse. And then when asked about if it'll come back they just ghost

[last pond]

Hell, on Android even Doom engines cost money

[north willow]

Winlator and Moonlight plus the few emulators I enjoy are my jam

[wintry prairie]

I've been holding back on an android hh because steam deck/sp/dsi/3ds covers most of my bases but if they get this right... my poor wallet

(also my first post in this discord lol hi!)

[elder wing]

For me, Rocknix is for like my N64/PS1 and below stuff + Portmaster and Pico8

Android is for Dreamcast/Naomi/Atomiswave, PSP, GCN, and PS2

[last pond]

Yeah, it will likely be a bit more expensive than I'm comfortable paying for, but it seems to cover so many bases for me that I might just bite the bullet

(and seems like it's gonna cost similar to a used N3DSXL in my area)

[gritty tusk]

Lol hopefully they just didn’t turn off the rest of the pixels and hide it behind the bezels like mini v1 lol

Custom screen manufacturing is very expensive, never thought they would be the ones to produce one

[low lake]

i mean even anbernic managed to get two custom screens nowadays

i guess the "minimal ordr reqs" went down from panel makers

[vapid rain]

They at least permanently dropped the price of the D1100 Flip 2 to $179, so it's fairly viable now.
In fact, I think the SD865 Flip 2 will be the one in a weird spot now if the SD865 Thor ends up not being that much more

[vast ibex]

With ~$200 in my paypal from selling other handhelds, and a potential ~$200 from selling my Odin 2 Mini and I probably could afford this.

Really though this is something I think I'd wait a while after release to get tbh. See if a V2 ever materializes to fix a hinge or whatever.

[last pond]

I think it's safe to assume that by the end of the year we might see ds clamshells from Retroid and Anbernic

[fringe temple]

Yeah. There are a lot of potential failure points

[vast ibex]

Anbernic DS with a H700 wooo

Oh dang, I didn't notice this thing does have a 6000mah battery, stay winning Ayn.

[sacred gust]

Might still stick with a rp5+rds, depending on the pricing of this and the Odin 3, whether any combo offered etc.
For the benefits of equal screen sizes for NDS/3DS, and no/less worry about different color profiles(brightness calibration, gamut, color temperature etc).

[vast ibex]

A good choice

[vapid rain]

I'll wait and see how the hinge on this does and also what reviewers think of it.
Not like I'll be able to afford it until December at the earliest anyways (and more than likely a next year purchase)

Luckily, this having an 8Gen2 config means this will last a good amount of years specs wise

[ancient torrent]

So did anyone else see how the pocket DS will be locked to 60 hz on both screens because it's apparently an android thing? I don't see how this would be different then unless aya was wrong? I saw some people cancel their pocket DS orders because of that.

[frigid shore]

It'll be the same here unless the second screen is turned off.

[sacred gust]

Nobody said it will be any different on this.
Nothing claimed by AYN as well.

[ancient torrent]

Just curious if people won't realize and get mad lol

[vast ibex]

Both screens will be locked to 60fps if both are on is what I've been told. If the bottom screen is off, the top screen still retains its high fps.

[jolly wadi]

im fine with 60hz oled for android

[ancient torrent]

Doesn't matter to me but I bet it will create drama if they don't clearly state that. Hopefully when it's available for pre order they have that clearly stated. These companies always seem to do something wrong lol

[rain scaffold]

what's the point of a 120hz if you only use it at 60hz

[kind saffron]

What will be real funny is when it's not locked and everyone turns slowly to Ayaneo

[ancient torrent]

True lol

[wintry prairie]

bc you can use the full 120hz when only using a single screen

[dark flame]

damn, THICKER than the rpflip2 puts it out of range for any pockets but JNCOs

[wintry prairie]

so for other emulators/game streaming you get that benefit

[vast ibex]

Peeps like black frame insertion right?

[kind saffron]

I'm still not like 100% convinced there isn't some workaround. Android pretty flexible

[vast ibex]

That's about it

[ancient torrent]

You don't always wear JNCOs??

[frigid shore]

I think it's about the same thickness? Retroid measured at the thinnest point too.

[wintry prairie]

tbh 120+hz is nice but it's never a dealbreaker for me but I guess I just have low standards lol

[dark flame]

how'd you get this video of me

[vast ibex]

I just find it so funny that they decided to call this "Thor", instead of just "Odin 2 DS"

[elder wing]

It's really not by much outside of the triggers, but we have to see irl testing

[ancient torrent]

Pocketing consoles since '96

[frigid shore]

Thor has two eyes

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Unfortunately the stuff just has to go somewhere. And without a team of 20 state of the art hardware designers, your not gonna get smartphone or even og console levels of engineering

[jolly wadi]

wow. stupid flip2. wish i didnt buy one lol

[ancient torrent]

Get a backpack

[cobalt summit]

I dont think this needs to be super pocketable

[wintry prairie]

honestly this feels like the best size for dual screen we've gotten so far. it's why i'm tempted. that ayaneo windows ds is... well it is.

[cobalt summit]

Were hitting 6" screens lol

[ancient torrent]

Why would you want to pocket any console. I barely want to pocket my wallet and keys

It's definitely a nice option though

[kind saffron]

Haha. I know your joking. But I love the people who are like, don't you just carry a bag everywhere. Like no, not really

[ancient torrent]

But yeah I get it, definitely nice if it is pocketable

[jolly wadi]

so people will ask if im happy to see them or is that an ayn thor in my pants

[ancient torrent]

Sew a new pocket that's perfect size 🙂

[frigid shore]

With a clamshell it's just the ease of access.
Especially if you want to get like, a quick few seconds in a puzzle game or something.

[cobalt summit]

Well no, i just don't need hanhdhelds like this to be pocketable

[dark flame]

yeah honestly for that i just want a better screen on a 405m, that thing has been such a great pocketable device

i'll likely buy this day 1 though. will definitely replace my rpflip2, MAYBE my evo?

[kind saffron]

The only reason I give pocketability any objective weight in this community is because we all grew up with handhelds we could at some point fit in our pockets

[frigid shore]

Before the Flip 2 I carried a 353M with a flip cover, but even with that sometimes I didn't want to deal with popping off/on the cover to play and then off/on again to put away.

[kind saffron]

I don't think people would fight that option again if they weren't all so massive

[cobalt summit]

Those handhelds had screen sizes under 3"

[vast ibex]

For almost a year I kept my RG28XX in my pocket with my phone just fine.

[cobalt summit]

Now we're like can I pocket this thing guys??

[vast ibex]

But then I'm weird and can also use the 28XX for hours without the infamous cramping.

[hushed ridge]

What’s the bottom screen? 1440x1080?

Or 1280x960?

[kind saffron]

And with several decades of advancements, edge to edge screens, thin batteries, foldable screens, etc, we can do no better?

[gritty tusk]

That’s the king edc device, that’s why

[cobalt summit]

1240x1080

[dark flame]

all of those people, myself included, are like 40 with bad eyes, so i'm always dreaming of something over 4inch screen that is also thin and pocketable.

[kind saffron]

Like let's not lie and say a 3ds is bezelless

[ancient torrent]

Yeah maybe if Samsung makes it

[hushed ridge]

Hmm, I gotta run some numbers for DS scaling

[frigid shore]

We're at "close enough" range, especially if you wear cargo pants or something that it can be a deciding factor.

[cobalt summit]

No I understand wanting it, I just think it sacrifices too much ergonomics for larger devices

[kind saffron]

I could also pocket a 3ds XL so....

[cobalt summit]

The 3ds line are fairly thin devices tbf

[kind saffron]

Which is fair. But for stuff like clams, pocketing it is kind of a reason

Otherwise you just have a really small laptop

[jolly wadi]

should come with belt straps

[frigid shore]

Should come with a leg holster

[hushed ridge]

Man, that resolution and screen size combo is bad for DS

[kind saffron]

Would be sick

In the US people would be shot tho

[vast ibex]

Honestly I think ergonomics on a handheld itself is just a losing game 90% of the time, and a basically flat handheld + grip will just work better anyway for most people.

[cobalt summit]

It'll be 3.7" of 4:3

[frigid shore]

Yeah, for me if something isn't pocketable and I have to bag it I'll just get something that's comfortable.

[cobalt summit]

Yea ds type handhelds are gonna be rough with ergonomics anyway. But thats one major reason I don't like playing games on my n3ds

[wintry prairie]

i think even with advances and improvements over decades, these are still powerful chips that might cook themselves in more compact hardware. more powerful than anything nintendo, etc. dreamed of putting in a handheld.

and with this form factor, they have to make sacrifices in some places

[kind saffron]

I find it easier than some of these. But I guess the 3ds also didn't tempt me with joysticks

[frigid shore]

I feel like with the resolution and power that stretching full screen with filters is probably fine.

[celest torrent]

What, there's a con to the 3DS ? People swear original hardware is the only way to play

[kind saffron]

In reality these chips would be fine in compact hardware if you limited them to less powerful emulators. It's not my fault everyone has to run PS3 on everything

[gritty tusk]

If you want comfort and dual screens get a Surface Duo and G8+ if all you want to play is 3DS and some GC + PS2 without headroom for upscaling.

You can pocket the Duo easily without the controller if you want to play some touchscreen games

[kind saffron]

Like all these chips are super efficient at lower clocks. It's why they work in phones

[hushed ridge]

Top screen is 5x integer scale, bottom screen is only 4x

[low lake]

I am od the mind that there is o such a thing as objectivity .
Ita always battle between subjective values and personal needs vs specs

[kind saffron]

But like. If you didn't add a fan to an sd865 people would riot

[hushed ridge]

And using integer scale, top screen is still gonna be a lot bigger than bottom

Unless you limit top screen to int 4x…? I haven’t run those numbers

[kind saffron]

Eh. I'd say that it depends what you're talking about. There may not be universal objective agreement. But certain aspects of a product space can produce not totally unrealistic objective expectations. But that's way deeper than we need to go here

[hushed ridge]

Looks like it’ll still be bigger though

[kind saffron]

Can you do independent scaling?

[prime pivot]

what is this, i am interested

[kind saffron]

I wouldn't be shocked if some emulators added that

[cobalt summit]

If you watch the review you won't be

Tjd t101

[river salmon]

865 chip made me sad. Not very exciting if the device is $400

[kind saffron]

That'll be the $300 one for sure

[low lake]

And sadly we kinda already reached the point of some users already "picked their winner" while ignoring any kind of reasoning others can have and just go trolling at the place of competitor

[kind saffron]

I could see them slipping an 8gen2 in for maybe $360 or something EB

[vast ibex]

Reminds me of A30 vs RG28XX.

Granted the state of those review units for the A30 were rough iirc.

[kind saffron]

Still kinda wild to me anyone would want LCD + OLED over dual OLED but it's a choice I guess 😆

[prime pivot]

sometimes...
someone just got nothing to do, and go have fun while causing inconvenience to others.
OR
they just want to see the world burn

[river salmon]

Is there 2 models?

[kind saffron]

Pocket DS gonna be like ghost stories

[kind saffron]

Yeah. 865 and 8gen2

[river salmon]

I think my phone, s22 ultra has an 8gen 2 chip and it stutters on 3ds

[vast ibex]

I mean, shader caching is still a thing?

[kind saffron]

What emulator. Supposedly azahar or whatever blows shit away

[cobalt summit]

Shaders can look weird on oled and it also oversaturates retro games

[river salmon]

Oddly enough, citra ran better for me when I turned shader caching off

[river salmon]

I haven't tried azahar much. Will need to investigate

[round quest]

Azahar is a beast

[kind saffron]

Yeah. But your gonna be stuck with OLED on main screen anyway. And imo the wing OLED is a great ratio for the games I'd want things like crt on anyway

[low lake]

Iirc async shader compile +disable right eye makes things pretty nice

But there always will be minimal shader stutter with emulation imo

[prime pivot]

i find it disappointing that Russ didn't troll the viewers by getting a pants that can fit the TJD T101 into pocket.

[cobalt summit]

Yea its not the worst thing just sharing that some people prefer lcd for 2d stuff

[river salmon]

Do we know if both screens are oled?

[kind saffron]

I dunno. It's less the wins for me for the Thor over the pocket DS, and more the places where I feel the pocket DS fell short outside of buying the base cost wise

[vast ibex]

For the Thor? Yeah

[low lake]

But it makes thinks pretty weird for me who has orders planned across all three companies

[vast ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crying-woody-harrelson-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-6945518

[kind saffron]

Like 7 inch high refresh screen would be awesome. If it was paired with a high refresh secondary. Especially for doing DS things outside emulation

[prime pivot]

i ended up placing order pocket DS and not waiting for Thor.

[river salmon]

Thor isnt out yet?

[kind saffron]

Neither is pocket ds

[prime pivot]

i mean i wont wait for Thor

[kind saffron]

Time traveler here

[cobalt summit]

Lol these both got announced recently

[prime pivot]

sorry for my bad english

[kind saffron]

Bold to also assume Ayaneo will deliver before this. Hehe

[round quest]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-roach-roach-piratesoftware-piratesoftware-roach-dire-maul-gif-2794493264638216527

Everytime I see the name Thor I am unfortunately reminded of this guy

[kind saffron]

Both have up and down track records

I imagine if the flip 1s hits delays the pocket DS delivery will start lagging

[prime pivot]

i will probably get Thor when it release too.. lol

[vast ibex]

Gotta just keep resisting the urge for this stupid thing, I have a perfectly good O2M I can just slap an extra sceen onto.

[river salmon]

I think of this thor

[round quest]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-hemsworth-gif-22327655

I just watched Ragnarok last night

[kind saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-alonzo-training-day-you-know-what-i-mean-denzel-washington-gif-3880790992928319831

[round quest]

I'm undecided if I will get Thor at release or for a bit cheaper from Toy Barn

[low lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hoarder-hoarding-messy-room-cleaning-gif-24211763

[kind saffron]

I mean I still have my 12gb pocket DS ordered. Doesn't make sense to cancel until more deets drop

[river salmon]

Ima wait. It took 3 months for flip 2 hinges to show cracks?

[round quest]

Smart play

[vast ibex]

About yeah

[hushed ridge]

Alright, if you overscan DS to cut 4 pixels off both sides of the bottom screen and 3DS to cut off 5 pixels, then bottom screen scaling matches top

[celest torrent]

Can you overscan in the 3ds emus?

I suppose you could in the retroarch ones like Melon DS

[low lake]

I am gonna go with thinking that "my bad hinges luck" has been exhausted by GPD Win 2 ... and me resheling it twice over worked hinge

[hushed ridge]

No idea

[low lake]

And my rg35xxsp has been completely fine despite some people having hinges problems there too

[river salmon]

Good luck sir @low lake

[prime pivot]

RP Flip 2 is 229 USD right?
i'm guessing Thor with 865, somewhere around 260 usd? is this price possible ?

[river salmon]

AYN has an AYN tax usually

[hushed ridge]

For DS, at 5x integer scale for both screens, there’s a displacement of up to 0.4 inches depending on where you’re looking

[low lake]

And with RDA , Flip 1s 8840u and possibly one of Thors

I am fine if one hinge break , I have options

[cobalt summit]

Are you buying all 3 clamshells?

[hushed ridge]

For example, the right side of the DS top screen is 0.4 inches to the right of the right side of the DS bottom screen

[river salmon]

Yall just have $2000 to throw out when new devices come out xD

[upper sail]

Eh, the Flip 2 could get pretty toasty on its own when you pushed it, so honestly them using a fan meant for an 8Gen2 might be another objectively better benefit thing for the 865 variant versus the Flip 2.

[hushed ridge]

But none of this speculation and analysis matters to me if the device is above $299 lol

[low lake]

Nah all are lowest versions

So half that

[celest torrent]

All 3 pokemon starter vibes

[kind saffron]

It has fan tho no?

[cobalt summit]

The 865 model is prob $300

[upper sail]

The Flip 2 has a fan.

[kind saffron]

My point was just like, no one ships a chip that can't be pushed to max. But if you did, you could throw it in a fan less compact model and still run a lot. You just couldn't max it

[celest torrent]

Imma need reviews before I purchase. Like the 477M seemed good on paper until you heard about the fan. I just need to see these in action

[kind saffron]

It's where corpo device control over output lets them do cooler engineering things

[celest torrent]

Exciting tho

[snow notch]

two models?

[low lake]

• the fact that the reason I am grabbing Flip 1S ... is to help me and my gf with speeding up work so it will technicaly kinda pay for itself and others in few months

[upper sail]

It’s not a great fan, so them using what should be a better fan (and hopefully a better heatsink design since the chips were on the button side of the pcb for the flip 2 and that should flat out be impossible for this given a screen is there), should result in it actually running cooler.

[snow notch]

oh nice

If it keeps price down it's better for me.

The only increase in power is for winlator i think

[upper sail]

Well yeah, but my point is that with them putting an 865 into a handheld designed for cooling an 8Gen2, people might actually be able to fully max out the 865 and still it have run relatively cool to the touch, much less not having any fear of thermal throttling.

[celest torrent]

Switch and Wii U probably too right

[upper sail]

Honestly I’m starting to get more and more tempted to potentially just get the 865 variant to use alongside the Pocket DS (I’d be selling literally all my Retroid products except the Classic for it to replace them of course).

[snow notch]

there's wiiu on android?

[upper sail]

Oh yeah, Cemu’s been on here for a while now. It’s just a beta still, but it’s working pretty well nowadays.

[cobalt summit]

8gen2 is a good bit better. Also better driver support

Will help for ps2 and above

Prob not much difference gc and below

[kind saffron]

For sure. It just doesn't make the device any thinner

[frank haven]

So happy we got screen sizes. All I'm waiting on is the SoC and price to make my decision

[lavish crypt]

we already know soc

865 and 8g2 variants

waiting on price info

[dreamy widget]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxA_CXR2azfB2nTQiDXnHWeCE8HJKkKoD_?si=uzKDYQulmOn27jUK

Was this shared already?

[jolly dune]

Price will be competitive with Aya. They know itd be dumb not to

[upper sail]

The price will have to be good enough to make sense for that, but if it is? I might be able to replace my entire collection of Android handhelds with just 2 Dual Screen clamshells alone.

[cobalt summit]

I think the 865 will be pretty affordable for what this is

[hushed ridge]

What even is 1240x1080, just make it 1280x1080

[cobalt summit]

Or 1280x960 😉

[frank haven]

I only saw the screen size on a Retro Handheld post on YouTube so thanks for the info.

[hushed ridge]

That too

[lavish crypt]

np!

[upper sail]

Eh, I can see them being competitive at $375 for 8g2 and $295 for 865.

[kind saffron]

Miyoo mini flip, pocket DS/Thor, steam deck, and OneXFly G1 and I'm at retirement stage honestly

[frank haven]

For me, it's a Odin 2, Thor, or Odin 3 (depending on price)

[low lake]

Rookie numbers

[upper sail]

Lets them compete with the RPMiniV2+RDSAddon combo with a better top screen and battery life at the cost of being like $25 more.

[kind saffron]

Like at that point I'm just burning moneh

[frank haven]

I'm hoping the Thor will be my final handheld purchase for awhile. Gotta sell my Razer Edge Wifi so I can recoup some money

[jolly dune]

Gonna have to flip my flip 2

[hushed ridge]

I’m looking for my forever handheld at this point, I want out lol

[low lake]

Tbh that's fine by me .... I kimda gave up on ever owning house od my own ( after my father gambled it away) and I don't belive I will live till pension anyway (thx to current health issues) ... and I can afford it ... so why not there are pricier hobbies

[upper sail]

Either way I’m definitely likely gonna be selling my RP5 soon, since I do prefer my Flip 2 over it, and literally any plans I have on getting the RDS are solely just for the RP Mini and Pocket Ace.

[frank haven]

I already have a SD865 dual-screen device (Surface Duo) so it all comes down to how much the 8Gen2 is

[lavish crypt]

i want it to add it to my android handheld line up haha

i'm keeping my flip 2 and RDS tho

[frank haven]

I don't blame you. I honestly want the Thor or Odin to replace my modded Switch Lite. I have my OLED for games I've purchased or want to play online

[sacred gust]

Does any arcade emulators support Tate mode on dual screen device?

[frank haven]

I don't think so. I know it's works on RetroArch on my Surface Duo because the custom ROM I run treats the two screens as one big screen

[crude tulip]

Would open the Ayaneo salt mines

[gentle notch]

You don't even have one in your hands yet bro slow your roll

[devout forge]

I've got excited about like hundreds of handhelds before

yet I've showed restraint and managed to not buy any

right now I only got oem handhelds

[fringe temple]

'perfection' until the next one comes around 😄

[gentle notch]

Honestly besides the bottom screen I can't see much they could do to improve this

It basically has everything I would want

[lavish crypt]

What's wrong with the bottom screen lol

[fringe temple]

not 120hz is my guess

[cobalt summit]

Its on the smaller side too

3.7" for 4:3 content

[sacred gorge]

I was informed that Ayn has switched up the letters from promo to final production before (Odin 2 Mini was Nintendo layout in promo but wasn't when it came out)

[vapid rain]

I can’t really afford to even midrange handhelds at the moment anyways, so even if the Thor came out next week (probably not), then I won’t get it yet

Waiting to see prices first to see if I can afford either model later on

I might still consider the d1100 Flip 2 with that now permanently having the discount

[grand spoke]

what's everyones upper limit on price for the 8Gen 2? Im thinking around $439 for 16GB ram and 1tb storage

[last pond]

The bottom screen is 3.92", so that means it's 1:1-ish, right?

[sacred gorge]

It's the DMG Mini Classic screen

[gentle notch]

It's not really 4:3 and only 60 hz

[vapid rain]

For what’s on the bottom screen most of the time in DS and 3DS, it’s still good enough, no?

[left kiln]

It is but some always want more 🙄

[cobalt summit]

Lol not everyone needs to like or buy the handhelds you like or buy

[gentle notch]

#1407322274071314492 message

All is said is it could be improved lol

Not that it's a dealbreaker

[vapid rain]

Oh, for certain. Don’t disagree there at all

[last pond]

I don't care about refresh rate on the bottom screen, but just a bit sad it's not 4:3 for both DS and 3DS

Then again it's OLED and glass front, so probably won't be that noticeable

[sacred gust]

I think that was due to feedback/complaints, no signs to say they will do the same here for now.
And Nintendo layout makes more sense here anyway.

[sacred gorge]

I mean you're gonna get black bars regardless

Since the 3ds top screen was 15:9

[gentle notch]

Well the only reason I'm bringing it up is just because it's going to lock both screens to 60 hz when they're on

[vapid rain]

120hz on both would’ve been hella nice for lower input latency on DS and 3DS, but the Thor as is sounds like it will be plenty amazing

Will wait for reviews

[fringe temple]

Just be careful not to critique AYN in the presence of the Lord Kirazuki 😄

[sacred gorge]

I know that they'll want to undercut Aya but

Would they want to undercut themselves

Since the Portal is $329, I can't see the Thor price being near that

[upper sail]

Likely not, they likely also wouldn’t want to potentially sell at a loss, and we have no clue how much this custom screen costed.

[round quest]

I could see it being 20 or 30 above it

[vapid rain]

For the record, I’m with Kirazuki in that the bottom screen is good enough, but there’s always room for improvement. That’s part of what I enjoy about this hobby

[scarlet ferry]

It will supposedly start at 250 for the 865 and 350 for the 8gen2

[vapid rain]

Ofc, don’t want the tradeoffs being too big of dealbreakers to me either

[sacred gust]

By the time this is delivered, portal will be close to a year old? Which is time for permanent discount anyway

[grand spoke]

that is harsha for retroid lol

[sacred gorge]

Price incoming then

[upper sail]

We just talked about Kirazuki man.

[vapid rain]

Well… that’s a rip on the SD865 Flip 2 then 🗿

[left kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-been-summoned-gif-19881033

[sacred gorge]

My ideal price is $360-$375

[gentle notch]

If the 865 version is under 300 I'm probably going with that

[upper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-dameron-heavy-sigh-star-wars-sigh-sighing-gif-26030273

[woeful estuary]

Day 2 of being stoked

[upper sail]

And speak of the devil.

Oh, that’s not to you Stubbs.

[left kiln]

Hey. What did I do to you 🤣

[upper sail]

See this is why I like replaying to my own comments.

[round quest]

I want the Thor nowwww

[upper sail]

Well, just to at least give benefit of the doubt, do you happen to work with Ayn at all to be able to actually count as a verified price leak?

[woeful estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-14883606492298699285

[round quest]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-roach-roach-piratesoftware-piratesoftware-roach-dire-maul-gif-2794493264638216527

[left kiln]

Im a mod over there but I have no insider info. Someone keeps posting my guesses as if they're actually leaks lol

[upper sail]

Ok, well at the very least I can’t and wouldn’t blame you for that.

So instead you can count the “heavy sigh” as being directed at Scout Main.

[left kiln]

Im just speculating along with everyone else. Yeah Scout main is where you should direct that to 😅

Ive been right so far with my guesses which I think is why he's running with it

[timber escarp]

Sounds like what somebody with insider info would say

[left kiln]

Don't stir the pot 🤣

[latent roost]

Wow those prices would be great but I doubt it

Only $20 more than a Flip 2 for SD865

[upper sail]

Not just that, it’s also cheaper than getting the RP Mini and the Dual Screen addon.

[sacred gorge]

Speaking of

[upper sail]

For a custom 6” 120hz OLED screen.

[vapid rain]

It’s not entirely out of the question given how cheap the screen being used for the bottom screen is these days, but I do think the top screen being bigger and higher refresh + bigger battery means it won’t likely be that low

[latent roost]

That combo has always been a terrible idea, doesnt fold properly, insane battery drain, and only 4000mah battery

[sacred gorge]

Does anyone have a rp5 with their dual screen addon, wondering if the dual screen affects 3ds performance

Since it's relevant to this now

[left kiln]

I dont think the RDS even starts shipping until tomorrow

[timber escarp]

Ayn has pleasantly surprised with price every time, I would expect competitive pricing

[upper sail]

And yet it’s what it’s priced at. So how much do you think having a better screen directly integrated into the device would cost? Also the battery drain is actively due to the screen itself (and potentially the driver), it’s not something they can just avoid given the Mini’s screen is actually pretty power efficient.

[low lake]

the rise of dualscreen has been so fun to watch

[latent roost]

I think battery drain is more to do with USB C connection to power the 2nd screen. Russ tested with just the 2nd screen on and surprisingly it drained fast

With this having screens built in I think batteru drain would not be as bad if you just power 1 screen only unlike dual screen attachment

[upper sail]

How fast did it drain with just the second screen on the rp5?

[latent roost]

I forgot but check the video Russ made

[cobalt summit]

Those are amazing prices

[upper sail]

Like I said, the RP Mini had a shockingly efficient screen, so the fact it’s battery life with only the second screen is around the same as the RP5 without the second screen just tells me it might just be the screen itself.

[upper sail]

But I don’t remember seeing him test it with just the top screen on for the RP5, so I’m not sure whether that’s also similar, or if it drains more battery, or hell maybe it drains less (the Mini is working with a 4000mAh battery, so it ending up similar in battery life could suggest it doesn’t drain as much)?

[frigid shore]

Android USB power delivery is just annoyingly bad.
Like how with a controller attached your battery drains ridiculously fast.

[jagged jay]

What price should i expect from this device 300 or 400 dollars?

Pretty similar

[hearty charm]

If it's 400 matching the pocket ds it's sunk lol

[jagged jay]

If its 300 or 350, is gonna be great

[crude tulip]

I hope the 12/512 SKU isn't going to push it over $399, can't see the 16/1024 being less than $459 tho

[vapid rain]

I’m personally predicting $269-289 for the 865 model, and around $339-359 for the 8gen2

Anything more is too close to Pocket DS yeah

[jagged jay]

There is going to be more versions?

[errant dome]

im in for the max for this then leaving this server, game over

[timber escarp]

Not enough price gap between the models, the 8g2 is several generations newer

[crude tulip]

Yeah, they kill Retroid

More than $259 for the 865 and nobody will give a shit

[jagged jay]

I mean for the device, same case but different chipset retroid flip 2 style

[vapid rain]

It’s kind of funny to think of the possibility where the d1100 will suddenly go from the model that had zero reason to exist to the only Flip 2 model worth getting x3

If I want the 865, rather get the Thor if it’s priced well

[jagged jay]

How powerful are chipset ayn uses on their device?

To have a comparation

[latent roost]

You might be right he tested with only Mini screen off and just the dual screen on but the additinal drain was shockingly bad

[lime dune]

there should be a solution on rocknix i believe

[latent roost]

Rocknix is a write off for me due to battery drain on sleep

[hardy heron]

slightly bigger than the vanilla DS

so only smaller than the dsi xl and the 3ds xl and new 3ds xl

[river salmon]

I worry the center piece will cause damage to the device because the sides will rock side to side in storage.

[frank haven]

Did they mention how much RAM and internal storage it has? Been crazy at work so I've not been able to keep up with the chat

[serene goblet]

The biggest thing that I wanna know is if the high refresh rate screen stays high refresh when both screens are on

[timber escarp]

Probably the usual

Not until some fixes are brought either by Android or Ayn

[errant dome]

no but id bet on 8, 12, and 16

i wonder if theyll go portal specs on storage tho and 128 512 1tb

[serene goblet]

Apparently the AYANEO DS has it so if both screen are on, the refresh rate is 60hz on both

🙁

[errant dome]

itll be the same here

[frank haven]

Makes sense. Looking into a used Odin 2 Pro.

[errant dome]

its been discussed a lot. its an android thing

i just sold an odin 2 pro on the marketplace

[frank haven]

Unless we are really lucky and both are 120hz

[frank haven]

Sadly I missed it

Want to replace my Razer Edge Wifi and modded Switch Lite

[errant dome]

they already said the bottom screen is 60hz

[serene goblet]

if both are somehow 120hz, or if AYN finds some sort of workaround without having to disable the bottom screen, I might actually look at this to replace my Razer Edge

[serene goblet]

damn

[icy atlas]

red: flip 1s
green: thor
blue: 3ds xl

[serene goblet]

impressive

[errant dome]

https://tenor.com/view/catch-catching-put-it-in-your-pocket-put-in-the-pocket-gif-9717172953245572814

[frank haven]

Damn

[frank haven]

Ah text is to small for my old eyes lol

[low lake]

why use flip 1s instead of pocket ds 😛

[icy atlas]

because nobody cares about the pocket ds

(also it was already in there from my last size comparison)

[jagged jay]

Or the flip 2

[icy atlas]

RED: AYANEO Flip 1S
GREEN: AYN Thor
BLUE: Nintendo 3DS XL
YELLOW: Retroid Pocket Flip 2
CYAN: AYANEO Pocket DS
SILVER: Nintendo 3DS

[errant dome]

throw in a 35xxsp! for thickness

[errant dome]

the stack grows!

[icy atlas]

RED: AYANEO Flip 1S
GREEN: AYN Thor
BLUE: Nintendo 3DS XL
YELLOW: Retroid Pocket Flip 2
CYAN: AYANEO Pocket DS
SILVER: Nintendo 3DS
DARK RED: Miyoo Flip
DARK GREEN: ANBERNIC RG35XXSP
DARK BLUE: Nintendo Gameboy Advance SP
DARK YELLOW: Miyoo Mini Flip (estimated)
DARK CYAN: Funkey Model S

widescreens are stood on their side and smaller clamshells are right side up

[jolly wadi]

banana for scale

[errant dome]

so about the same or maybe slightly thinner than an sp

[errant dome]

what site is this

[jolly wadi]

bananaforscale.com

[rare rampart]

Oooh

Hmm

[left kiln]

This is getting out of hand 🤣

[rare rampart]

Maybe I might get a Pocket DS

[vapid rain]

Glorious

[latent roost]

Can someone do a 477m and Thor size comparison

[sacred gorge]

That is not a thing that is possible on Android

[serene goblet]

lame!!!!!

[vapid rain]

Hopefully it's something Android can fix at some point

[last pond]

Why do people wanna play on two screens with different refresh rate anyways?

[serene goblet]

android sucks for input lag unless the refresh rate is high

[vapid rain]

Idk if I'll go as far to say it sucks, but higher refresh rate is just good for input latency in general.

[serene goblet]

so i'm just sitting here like "is anything gonna be able to replace my razer edge"

[latent roost]

120hz low inoit lag gameplay while seeing a guide

Or 120fps moonlight streaming while 2nd screen used for keyboard

Low input lag DS and 3DS gamesplay

[icy atlas]

Wii U is a big one I don't think I hear enough people talk about

[serene goblet]

for 99% of people it's probably totally fine yeah...
too bad i'm the 1% who's spoiled by my gaming laptop and razer edge's screens

[icy atlas]

yes most Wii U games have switch ports

but there's a number that don't, or that are singleplayer experiences potentially better emulated on Wii U

[serene goblet]

playing DS games on 60hz android is so, so glaringly laggy

like even though i'm spoiled there's no way y'all don't notice any lag

💀

[vapid rain]

I can't really say since I've never tried playing DS on my Android phone, and have no interest to as I don't enjoy playing emulation on a phone period

[jolly wadi]

what rate do ds games play at?

[icy atlas]

I'm gonna be so honest, having owned a 144hz monitor for like 5 years now, its just diminishing returns after a point

[icy atlas]

59.8

the main issue though is how jank ds emulation is

[errant dome]

i have a 240hz oled, but use frame gen to hit that so i gave up on low lag long ago.

[low lake]

onexsugar got robbed

[icy atlas]

when i'm in a useless existence competition and my opponent is onexsugar

[jolly wadi]

multi or just 2x?

[serene goblet]

depends on the game but generally ~60fps
but android is dumb and on an operating system level, has noticeably higher input lag on 60hz screens compared to higher refresh

[errant dome]

if it can use 4x ill use 4x. im about to beat khazan with 4x on the entire way on expert

[jolly wadi]

ive only tried multi on indy jones. and it worked surprisingly well

[errant dome]

the only genre i need low latency on is offline competitive fighters

which im not going to do on a handheld

[vapid rain]

Huh... interesting.
Would that by any chance contribute at all to me finding my iPhone's 60hz screen smoother feeling than the 60hz on my Android phone?

[errant dome]

i definitely notice the difference playing on a mister connected to crt using snac

but i adapt

[serene goblet]

I've tried lossless scaling framegen and it's pretty neat but I definitely could tell a difference in responsiveness even with low-end games
totally worth the price to get it on steam tho

it's just so cool

[crude tulip]

I mean, the Flip 2 will have better ergo for d-pad stuff, so I wouldn't entirely write it off

[errant dome]

i use lossless on my legion go, really great program

[vapid rain]

That's true admittedly with it being in-set

[errant dome]

on pc i have a 5090 so use the nvidia frame gen

[vapid rain]

I forgot that the dpad on the Thor is not going to be inset bc of the screen in the middle x3

[jolly wadi]

but have you tried using with a second gpu lol

[serene goblet]

that could be a contributing factor, yeah

[serene goblet]

I have not

[jolly wadi]

cant remember if it helps with latency or its just better performance

[serene goblet]

i can't imagine it helping with latency--ultimately it's an overlay that's put on top of a game afaik

but i can't say for sure cause I haven't tried it

[hushed ridge]

$250 for the 865?

How good is that for Wii U?

[lime dune]

Pocket DS is more like a Pocket Brick

[latent roost]

60hz isnt a big deal for games up to PS1 as you can use runahead 1 frame

But for PS2, 3DS, DS, GC the lag in a lot compared to original hardware

[gentle notch]

It's just if you want to do stuff like bfi, android games at 120 fps, or streaming on the top screen while the bottom screen is on you can't do that. Not a problem for 3ds and ds but it does decrease the overall functionality a little bit

[latent roost]

120hz helps reduce atleast by 1/3 compared to 60hz

Also for streaming games you can run games at 120fps

Then you also have additinal feature of BFI

[solar epoch]

Seems like the Thor is only gonna be about 5mm wider than the Flip 2. So Flip 2 is gonna be the closest comparison.

[candid inlet]

Is it confirmed if you can do 120 hz on the top screen while also using the bottom screen?

[little yacht]

You can’t

[low lake]

iirc unless someone hacks android , its impossible

[candid inlet]

Gamma?

Also, both of these chips have Linux support

[vernal zinc]

If someone cared to make a dual screen Linux image for it

Then you could do 120+60

[serene goblet]

damn. they really gon make me learn linux for this

😭

in my experience rocknix is cool and all but android is so, so much more intuitive

which makes this whole refresh rate hoopla so frustrating

[lavish crypt]

you don't really need 120hz for ds/3ds and thats the most common use case for both screens

you can just turn off the bottom one for your 120hz experience

doesn't seem that terrible

[serene goblet]

well i don't need 120hz at all for anything

but i WANT it lol.

[latent roost]

Ive said this before but RG477M appeal of being the only pocketable 120hz handheld has already been dethroned with this. Especially seeing how this is smaller although thicker while maintaining a larger screen even for 4:3 games. Now you have the best of both worlds 120hz and OLED, the 2nd screen is just the cherry on top. Also the 477m has a 5200mah battery while this is 6000mah

[lavish crypt]

i feel like a lot of people are gonna use it as a single screen device anyways

[vapid rain]

https://youtu.be/Krbk14IIQiY

Seems surprisingly playable for the games I'd want to play on it

[serene goblet]

imo the only excellent thing about that device and the slide is the display.
everything else imo is just compromise after compromise

as much as people love metal, in my experience with the 405M... metal only makes a handheld worse

[low lake]

yup

[serene goblet]

anbernic i swear if they can make a dualscreen handheld with two of their beautiful panels running at the refresh rate they're supposed to
i wouldn't care about the SOC, my wallet is theirs

it would probably fly too close to the sun legality-wise but fuck it LOL

[gentle notch]

Anbernic is almost definitely cooking something up, just hoping it's a full fledged handheld and not an attachment

[vernal zinc]

I hope it’s a cheap option for NDS

[jade pulsar]

I know Im about to speak blasphemy but since I already have a O2 and no plan of selling it the SD 865 model might be a better fit personally.
Well that is depending on price difference, , will be interesting to see what the Odin 3 brings to the table and what SOC they use

[vernal zinc]

Two trimUI brick screens in a ds lite shell

[upper sail]

Yup, it dropped it down to around the same battery life as the RP5.

[serene goblet]

imo.. go big or go home when it comes to a DS handheld
cause we already have cheap DS options

[upper sail]

Which, for better or worse does show even more how efficient the LG Wing screen is, meaning it’s likely not gonna be draining too much from the Thor.

[serene goblet]

yeah they suck but they're cheap

[vernal zinc]

Like what

I don’t see any cheap dual screen handhelds

[serene goblet]

well i moreso meant "handhelds suitable for playing DS games" rather than literal 2 screens

[gentle notch]

That's kind of what I'm planning as well, I already have a high end android handheld so if the price is right for the 865 that's what I'm going with

[vernal zinc]

By that logic we already have loads of 3ds handhelds too

Basically any android handheld lol

[serene goblet]

i agree exactly

so for me personally if i see a company try the dual-screen design, they should go for as little compromise as possible

cause if it's compromised why not just use your phone

or the O2P or Razer Edge

or RP5 or etc etc

[jade pulsar]

I only makes sense to me personally , the SD 865 should still be plenty powerful for DS gaming .
Just love the fact both screens are OLED

[gentle notch]

Yeah 865 should be able to do 3x minimum for the library I think

[errant dome]

im going one and done. going to preorder the max and if it delivers, sell off my portal

[gentle notch]

I might be a little too sentimental to sell off my handhelds lol

[jolly wadi]

And I’m just too lazy

[jade pulsar]

I want to see what they do with the Odin 3 before deciding 100% , SD 8 gen 3 ?

[gentle notch]

Yeah that too 😂

[errant dome]

i have a big sell post up right now. pretty much selling everything i have other than the portal, classic, and legion go

well, not counting first party like 3ds, ds, vita, etc

those id never sell

[serene goblet]

i'm sitting here wondering if the O3 would be redundant or not

is there a massive difference in emulation performance between the 8G2 and the most recent qualcomm chips?

or gaming performance?

[errant dome]

for what? winlator? gamehub?

i guess switch emulation

i dont do any of those

[jade pulsar]

All of the above and high end Android gaming on max settings

[low lake]

from anbernic ... i totally expect dualscreen device with H700

[errant dome]

can you even do android gaming on max? some of these games lock that to iphone like genshin used to

i guess wuthering might not

cant it already do that tho

8gen2 i mean

[serene goblet]

BRUH

i'd cry
but then i'd buy it

[lavish crypt]

the 8g2 already maxes out android games lol

[jade pulsar]

Which for the SD 8 gen 2 does fine already but I just like buying multiple handhelds with the same SOC

[errant dome]

insanity

but this is the retro handhelds discord, were all insane here

[jade pulsar]

I know but I stated why above

[candid inlet]

Except for arthritis inducing dpad placement. It can’t earn the “pocket crt” title that the 477m has when most of the crt systems will be uncomfortable to play

[little yacht]

It will not be redundant, not everything is about performance otherwise people wouldn’t have bought the o2 portal. Yes others may favour it but form factor amongst other things are important to consider too

[serene goblet]

i understand that but how do you top the O2P if you're not gonna make it more powerful

the thor being dualscreen is awesome so there's that

[errant dome]

dual screens! oh wait..

yeah i went from odin 2 to portal and it was because of the 120hz oled

[serene goblet]

am i tripping or aren't the O3 and thor different handhelds

[little yacht]

By bridging the gap between the favourable form factor and pocketability of the o2 and the oled screen of the o2 portal

[errant dome]

that was a key difference for me

here an odin 3 vs thor is so close except the thor has a big advantage

unless like the odin 3 is 100 bucks less and double the battery

then i see a market

[serene goblet]

people pocketed their odin 2s???

no shot

[errant dome]

lol ^^^^

[little yacht]

Its much more “pocketable” than the o2 portal

[errant dome]

the odin 2 mini maybe

[serene goblet]

i could barely pocket my vita 2000 and that's smaller than the O2M

[errant dome]

and an odin 2 portal is more pocketable than a steam deck

doesnt mean it is pocketable

[little yacht]

O2 portal is just too big for me, i know me and others agree o2 is a good size and the main gripe with it was its screen, make it better and it keeps its pros and loses one of its major flaws

[little yacht]

Except they’re almost the same length, im using pocketability in reference to its form factor not being intrusively large

[errant dome]

that doesnt make sense either

the stacked triggers, thumbsticks, grips. nothing about the o2 is pocketable

[icy atlas]

I like the implication here that the 477M is pocketable

[fluid cloak]

the only truly pocketable handhelds i've had imo are the funkey/rg nano/q36 mini

[icy atlas]

A30 gang

[little yacht]

No one here is realistically putting any handheld in their actual pockets, pocketability as far as im aware is just in terms of how much space it takes up

[serene goblet]

i'm kinda concerned it'll just be a redundant product then. cause for 90% of people the RP5 isn't that much less powerful

[fluid cloak]

anything else you start worrying about if the imprint shows or is digging into your leg

[errant dome]

i take my classic everywhere i go, before that the brick. raw in my pocket.

[serene goblet]

ignore that "90%" i got that number out of my ass.

[fluid cloak]

Im not a shorts guy but for sweatpants a lot more handhelds work but i only do that around my house usually

[errant dome]

back pocket with the classic lol

[gentle notch]

I buy my handhelds based on how pocketable they are actually

[little yacht]

How many are actually going in your pocket

[fluid cloak]

zero 28 or a30 or odin 2 mini or whatever else is all pocketable in sweatpants but definitely not jeans

[tender granite]

RGB30.....

[gentle notch]

Most of them

[little yacht]

That does not fit

[tender granite]

It's my EDC, in my pocket

[errant dome]

i dont even do a case or screen cover

[tender granite]

Right now

[errant dome]

the classic screen has a screen protector, how much more does it need

[tender granite]

If I didn't pull it put you would not even see it dawg

[sacred gorge]

Clearly pocketable :3

[serene goblet]

I used to put my 405M and Vita2K in my pocket all the time during college
nowadays I prefer just taking a bigger handheld in the same small bag I use for my headphones

cause if I'm outside I probably got headphones on, might as well get a bigger handheld with me

[little yacht]

If you carry a handheld in your pocket then you do you lol, I’m not here to go against what people believe i was just understanding it to be in reference to its real world use case relative to its size

[tender granite]

Better picture?

Not my fault y'all wearing skinny jeans

[little yacht]

Help me understand, do you do this only around the house or you go out with a handheld in your pocket like that?

[tender granite]

Always lol

[errant dome]

i cant believe im about to take a picture of my butt pocket to post on discord but its about to happen

[tender granite]

If it's on my person, I'm more likely to use it

Larger Android/X 86 devices are great for Couch Gaming too. But having a Pocket Device is also awesome

[serene goblet]

damn. for free??

[little yacht]

Right, but this would just be too uncomfortable for me, i have my phone keys wallet and earbuds all taking up space already

[tender granite]

I just have Phone/Keys. Wallet got ditched Years ago into the phone

[errant dome]

Subliminal onlyfans ad

[sacred gorge]

all the devices i pocket (like the pocket classic). the device will be the only thing in there

[errant dome]

take it everywhere

[sacred gorge]

i don't share that space with my wallet or keys

[errant dome]

love having it on me. currently playing through the mario tennis gbc world tour

[little yacht]

I simply just don’t treat my handhelds like this, fair enough

[errant dome]

sneak in some sets when i can

[tender granite]

I'm playing Pokemon Rom Hack R.O.W.E.

[little yacht]

If I’m at home I can just simply just set it down and pick it up when i want to

[icy atlas]

Brick on the hip

[little yacht]

If im out then im out doing something other than needing to play on my handheld lol

[tender granite]

I would also say, my RGB30 is the Absolute biggest I would ever carry on my person

[errant dome]

im about to go out to a doctors appointment. i can sit there browsing discord or social media or whatever... OR i can get past the 2nd round of this tennis tournament

the latter is way more appealing

[little yacht]

You do you man

[gentle notch]

I just brought my rg cube to my dentist appointment yesterday

[little yacht]

I guess i must not be as deep in lol

[serene goblet]

based @errant dome
but i can't lie nowadays i've been more along the lines of rylrs in which i just have headphones

[errant dome]

i mean comically this started with you saying the odin 2 is more pocketable than the portal

see what you started! butt shots!

[little yacht]

And as I’ve said a few times now, in reference to a more real world favourable form factor

[icy atlas]

I mean realistically if you're not doing anything but using your handheld on the couch you shouldn't have any reason to own one lol

[little yacht]

I’m not discrediting your literal use of the term, I’m just explaining what i thought it to be

[icy atlas]

Just emulate on a PC or do a pi box on your TV

[errant dome]

nah thats not true. sometimes someone is using the tv or you want to watch tv yourself while playing

or hang in the backyard playing a game. lots of uses

pc streaming on the portal is so good. sit on the couch streaming to it while watching some sport. good times

[serene goblet]

ur right but shut up!!!!!!!!

i need an excuse for my bad purchase habits

[lavish crypt]

i always have a device with me when i leave the house

gotta keep that thang on me

[icy atlas]

I forget that most people in this space are married with kids

I live alone, If someone is using my TV I have bigger problems than getting my Brick

[icy atlas]

At work one time I said "I keep that thang on me" and a coworker gasped and asked if I had a gun

[tender granite]

I'm crashing on your couch now Tacos

[icy atlas]

I'm making pizza for dinner tonight

[lavish crypt]

Always stay strapped

[icy atlas]

Now granted I do also have a gun but I was mainly referring in that instance to the console...

[tender granite]

I making Tacos, we should Collab

[fluid cloak]

you could try pointing it on someone's back like snake and make them think it's a gun

[icy atlas]

🤝

[fluid cloak]

freeze

[devout forge]

Did we get price confirmations?

[left kiln]

Not yet

[crude tulip]

Probably, but if it's like the KONKR Pocket Fit and close to $300 I'm in nevetheless

[hushed ridge]

Replace the 1240x1080 bottom screen with a 4.3 inch 1280x960 screen (for 8/9 the height of the top screen) and replace the sticks with circle pads, then it’ll be perfect for me

I basically want a Super 3DS

[icy atlas]

im super happy with this as is but also yeah

[tender granite]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-for-dinner-pizza-tacos-taco-pizza-pizza-taco-gif-13708491

[candid inlet]

I tried pocketing my GPD Win Mini just for fun. It fit but afterwards my jeans pocket was permanently stretched and deformed. I do not recommend

[little yacht]

I think a custom bottom screen would’ve been more fruitful than a top screen since we have a couple options for a top screen already but only one for the bottom but can’t complain too much

In regards to it being oled

[icy atlas]

honestly might end up selling my flip 1s if this turns out to be peak 3ds/wii u

i'd prefer a 6" x86 anyway

[little yacht]

8g2 definitely will be for 3ds, wii u might be a bit more picky with compatibility on arm

[icy atlas]

865 is good enough for 3ds

moreso the 8g2 question for wii u

[flint pumice]

Any guess on the shipment? More like November?

[icy atlas]

2028

miyoo scheduling

[little yacht]

Mostly but not all yeah

And would be alot less than the flip 1s

Especially the 865

[hushed ridge]

I’d be happy with being able to play all 3DS at 2x resolution. Though 4x would be preferred

[flint pumice]

Does Wii U android emulator support dual screen yet?

[hushed ridge]

And I think 865 is fine for 2x based on videos

[flint pumice]

It’s pretty cool that they have 865 as a lower cost option but I will pick 8gen2 for sure.

[scarlet ferry]

I put my flip 2 in my pockets, every time I go out

I sold my O2 Max to get a Flip 2 to be able to take my handheld outside in my pocket

[amber zealot]

I think you're severely mistaken, fellow gamer

[jolly wadi]

now THAT'S a handheld!

i like to put my handheld, if i can, into my pocket around the house, or in my robe pocket

[solar epoch]

Dual Screen pocketability doesn't seem as big of a concern for me. If you are out and about you don't have data for videos, and a FAQ would only work if it was single page already loaded or downloaded to the device. I guess DS and 3DS would be the big factors for wanting two screens on the go.

My shorts pockets don't accomodate the Flip 2 well. But it fits well in the sling I usually carry. So it being just a bit bigger than the Flip 2 is fine for me. When I hurt my knee and had to use crutches I would just carry things around the house in my sling too.

[little yacht]

As ive been made aware lol

[little yacht]

You do you man

I got other things to put in my pocket lol

[elder wing]

Maaan the more I look at it

[kind saffron]

I regularly download FAQs and guides as files just so when android gets ram limited I don't have to reload pages every time I check it

I'd also load it up with movies if I knew I'd be off the grid for an extended period

[elder wing]

The more the Thor looks like an actual premium device compared to the Pocket DS

The pocket DS looks more like a chunky toy xD

[jolly wadi]

i would say it looks more mature

[elder wing]

Ah yes

Mature

[kind saffron]

Kinda wild that someone said people don't put these in pockets 😆

Glad I missed that

I put my switch 2 in my cargo pocket whenever I'm wearing em. So I think I'll be ok here

[jolly wadi]

i would also put the switch 2 in the cargo pocket, and treat them like knee pads

stupid lcd

[kind saffron]

Miyoo flip mini will basically go in opposite my keys and phone

[elder wing]

I carry my O2M in my normal pocket all the time as I wanna actually use it on break xD

[kind saffron]

I'll never remove it except when switching pants

[calm granite]

So is Wii U Android development mature enough that this would likely be able to handle it? Obviously we don't know the SoC, but just off best guess

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Should be fine

[scarlet ferry]

I take my Flip 2 to the gym, as well. It's amazing for cardio days

[little yacht]

lol

[kind saffron]

8gen2 should handle switch and lower pretty easily

[elder wing]

We do actually

[little yacht]

wild

[calm granite]

Oh guess I missed that image

[kind saffron]

I guess. More like practical. If you know, I need to pick up things

[calm granite]

Doesn't Odin 2 have 8gen2? Thought this and Odin 3 were going to be the same SoC

[kind saffron]

Must be nice to live a life where you never need to pick things up randomly

I need that life

Carrying things up and down stairs is the worst

[sacred gorge]

Yes to the Odin 2. No it will be using the older chip

[kind saffron]

Probably for pricing reasons

[solar epoch]

You don't carry one of these on you at all times?

[kind saffron]

Helps offset the other hardware costs

[elder wing]

Which is smarter for pricing and support reasons

[kind saffron]

Picking up a baby with one of those might cause lifelong trauma. But I'll give it a go

[elder wing]

8 gen 2 has mature drivers and overall solid community support with the power to boot, so it better to use that than force in a new chip and raise price up

[sacred gorge]

Use this instead

[kind saffron]

I think it's funny. Cause like. We're all def in different places in life. I guess back in my college days I didn't have to carry around much. Would just jog with with my steam deck held out before me if it existed back then

[jolly wadi]

is that for a him or a her

[little yacht]

[kind saffron]

Stuff of nightmares

[solar epoch]

I love having a sling to carry things around in. Until I flip it around to my back then try to bend over and grab something and it swings back around and smacks me in the face.

[kind saffron]

Haha. So handheld weight is more important than size for you

[solar epoch]

For sure. If that happened with a Steam Deck, I'd probably have to go to hospital.

[kind saffron]

That's what we're missing, soft padded handhelds

I wanna feel like I'm holding a pillow. Or use it as one in emergencies

[hushed ridge]

Wait, do people actually watch videos on their second screens? I thought that was just the made-up excuse companies used to get Nintendo off their backs

I say this with complete sincerity:

[celest fog]

In a gba SP shell. Buttons will go….somewhere

[vernal zinc]

Put them all on the back

[last pond]

Maybe pin this?

[crude tulip]

kinda, but the external screen will be the gamepad one, so with the RDS you have the main action on the build in screen of your device, would be interesting to see how a dual screen handheld handles it

[dusk bough]

Anyone else hoping this thing is thin

[left kiln]

We know how thick it is lol

Its thicker than the 3ds xl but has a slightly smaller footprint. This shows, from left to right, the 3DS, Thor, 3DSxl, Pocket DS

[teal portal]

Legit too scared to put one of these in my pocket lol

[gritty tusk]

The 3ds is actually flat though where this Thor has protruding triggers, likely reaching to at least 30mm

[left kiln]

Yes there's that. Its a bit thicker at one end. The size is still impressive

[dusk bough]

What else do we know

like specs

[left kiln]

Thats it for now

[scarlet ferry]

Flip 2 In my pocket, ready to go out

[frank haven]

Think we'll get a price by the end of the week?

With the 120hz screen, it's got a leg up on the Odin2 but not by much IMO

[left kiln]

120hz and OLED. Thats a big difference in screen quality imo

[frank haven]

100%. For my needs/wants, I could do without them if the price was right

[crude tulip]

$249 for the 865, $349 for the 8g2 base seems likely
I'm more interested in what the PRO SKU will go for tho

[left kiln]

I think the pro could be $399

[frank haven]

Ya I'd like to get 12GB of RAM

[crude tulip]

I really hope that they keep that one at $399 or below, while it's 12/512 like the PRO SKU on the Odin 2 Portal

[frank haven]

Hoping for early bird discount

[left kiln]

We should find out all the prices by the end of the week I would imagine

[dusk bough]

Looks bland but good

[crude tulip]

pretty sure yeah, Nicole will drop more infos on the Thor for sure

[dusk bough]

I hope someone makes something to have matte controls

[kind saffron]

Beats not having to hold 2 devices up at once at least. I'm also way more comfortable with my handheld battery dying than my phones if I'm out somewhere

My phone does important things

[latent roost]

Well honestly its not really a must have feature other than DS and 3DS. But if the functionality is there and easy to use i can see myself leaving on a long podcast while i grind an RPG or do open world side missions in a game

[kind saffron]

Plenty of games filled with mindless grind stuff so it's nice to have the option

[steady nest]

I don’t know much about chips, will this most likely run 3ds games full speed?

[sacred gorge]

this has two models

both should be yes

tho the weaker one, 865 might have some trouble upscaling

[lavish crypt]

I mean the o2 portal exists lol

That display is incredible

[solar epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[jolly dune]

100% phone is basically my wallet

[river salmon]

Double OLED

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-donkey-kong-bananza-clap-clapping-clapping-chest-gif-13281792882547830224

[crude tulip]

the only surprise here is the 6" 120hz screen, instead of them using the 5.5" RP5 screen

[kind saffron]

Not to mention the only way I know how to get somewhere in a city im not familiar with. It dies, I die. Lol

[jolly dune]

The guy remortgaged his house for these screens!

[crude tulip]

in all fairness, that probably already happened before the RP Mini blew up in their face

they just used it in an attempt to divert the blow

before the RP Mini rose up from it's grave to bite them in the ass again

[icy atlas]

Bouncing on it

[icy atlas]

If the game isn't fun I don't play it

[timber escarp]

https://youtu.be/Dr7RSJDzzOU

[kind saffron]

I've played plenty of fun games that still have grind. Sometimes the grind is fun. Sometimes doing something mindless is just what the body needs 😆

Some of my fav game moments were mining nodes in wow and things pop off. Still spent a lot of time just mining nodes

I'd consider animal crossing to just be one massive grind with some text thrown in 😆