2025 XU Product Slate

[jolly kettle]

In short all of the A133P/RK3566 linux handhelds that are priced $50-80 will be near-dead

Anything under $40 will be safe (r36s, rgb10x/v10, some rg35xx models etc)

[bronze yew]

I wouldn't go that far, it's still a $30-40 price difference while you only get full N64/PSP/DC and some GCN/3DS compared to some N64/PSP/DC

the jump in what it reasonably can do is there, but not big enough to wipe the entire budget segment

[sharp cloud]

The t310 with its 1 big A75 would be a good sub 60 choice now, but seem it's no longer around

[jolly kettle]

Or something equivalent in power without being shit for heat generation/battery consumption

(cough cough A527, RK3399, S922X)

[glad oriole]

In my opinion, G1 Gen2 is not suitable for retro device SoC.

[bronze yew]

how come? it has certainly a weak GPU, but the CPU is strong enough to nearly do full PS2

a device that can do that for $99 would sell incredibly well, especially if paired with the MagicX/XU shipping model

sure upscaling stuff is nice, but currently you have to churn out $169 for a decent PS2 experience with the RP4 pro

[spark cradle]

magicx and XU will do this soon enough, their midrange line is already made pointless by Ayaneo of all companies

[spark cradle]

it's the Classic SoC right

[jolly kettle]

Yes

[spark cradle]

hm

I'd be very happy if I got my Classic for 99

had to pay like 125 to get it because the 4GB variant was sold out

[jolly kettle]

RP4 Pro shipped with 4PX to the UK is $164

[glad oriole]

MTK's G510 is better than G1 Gen2

[spark cradle]

not being able to play intensive 3DS/PS2 is annoying, but it does NDS/GBA/Gamecube really well

[jolly kettle]

I'm sure XU could undercut that with a D7350 device

[spark cradle]

well give us a <90 USD product with that chip then

[jolly kettle]

GPU wise yea

2x 2GHz A78 + 4x 2GHz A55

Mali G57 MC2 @ 950mhz

6nm litho

G1G2 is 4nm, 2x 2.4GHz A78 + 6x 1.9GHz A55 with an Adreno 6xx GPU @ 1010MHz

[glad oriole]

G1 Gen2 can not run the beetle completely

[spark cradle]

what beetle

https://tenor.com/view/super-game-ultimate-mushiking-甲蟲王者-gif-18680781

[jolly kettle]

Saturn

[sharp cloud]

I think it's 2.4, not 2.2.

[jolly kettle]

Yea 2.4ghz

[sharp cloud]

The mtk 510 with a lower clocked cpu would be even worse though

[glad oriole]

Guys, let's get back to the real world!

K56 for $110
T820 for $140

😂😂😂

[bronze yew]

we don't know, there is a severe lack of benchmarks on the G510, but it's using the same CPU cores as the G1 Gen2, so I wouldn't expect drastically different results

the only obvious advantage would be the GPU being equivalent to the G99

but hey, if you guys can source that chip for a $99 device and it ain't a burning heap of inefficiency, why the fuck not

[spark cradle]

yeah at the end of the day we care about the device being able to run the games we want to play on it

[jolly kettle]

No chance of full PS2 tho

[bronze yew]

I mean, most of us here are lunatics who would buy 8 Elite devices to emulate SNES

[jolly kettle]

But it'll be able to do quite abit of GC

[jolly kettle]

Pahah love how y'all are gonna undercut both those

G85 for $85
D7050 for ~$130ish

[bronze yew]

I mean, it uses the same core layout as the G1 Gen2, so it should do better in the single core performance that is important for just emulating stuff than the T820

but the lower clock certainly suggests that the G1 Gen2 should do better tbh

[glad oriole]

MagicX is now developing a double-clamshell DS with 2x the resolution of a 3DS, and the price may be around $150

[jolly kettle]

It has 2 less A55 cores

And the a78s are lower clocked

[jolly kettle]

👀 wonder what SoC it'll have

They'll have already done abit of hinge R&D with the flip prototype shells

[glad oriole]

I don't know which SOC it is.

[jolly kettle]

My guess is D7050

[glad oriole]

The D7050 cannot play most 3DS games at 2x resolution

[clever verge]

I have seen T820 devices from 2024 going for $125 US, during that back to school sale on Ali Express. But can we just get away from the T820 chip all together? It kinda sucks after GC for the most part.

What was that saying you used for Mangmi and that Screen to Chip combo? "Like Mouse Pulling a Carrige", that is how the new 476 device looks with the 960p screen and t820 combo

[jolly kettle]

Huh, I thought since azahar is alot more optimised

[jolly kettle]

And the 120hz display

[clever verge]

Yea

[jolly kettle]

Should at least do the heavier ones at 1x

[clever verge]

Same screen on the Slide/477m

[jolly kettle]

With right eye disabled

[clever verge]

T820 Chip is just.....pass

Rather have the d7050 or d900 minimum for Ps2

I still love seeing random ads for 3326 devices from scammers

"Play all your fav GTA games"

[glad oriole]

The retro handheld market is currently bleak, and many XU devices may change at any time. Maybe one day it will be announced that the $99 price is G1 Gen2😋😋😋

[clever verge]

Guess the USA market was larger than expected?

[jolly kettle]

It's like a 10 speed gearbox with a 1.3l engine

That's what luna said i think

About the 120hz screen

In combination with the t820

[tawny swan]

u can, but it wont be perfect

[jolly kettle]

Like he said

The upper 15% will run into problems

Especially without tweaking

[tawny swan]

without tweaking u need at least 865

[jolly kettle]

So yea

[tawny swan]

even it wont be perfect on heaviest games

[tawny swan]

hope so

[tawny swan]

gpu bound issue

[tawny swan]

7350?

it can handle that

[jolly kettle]

$150 for a D7350 DS clamshell handheld is abit tight

[tawny swan]

yh, early bid at least

2x Wii not easy job

for gpu

[clever verge]

D1100 getting me there with Wii/GC at least. Just not with "Every" game. Just most

[jolly kettle]

Anbernic have a dual screen in the works, would be a good time to beat them at their game

Even if it's abit late but still better quality/price/performance

Could be a Unisoc T620 or equivalent chip

[tawny swan]

u know better option with more powerful gpu than 7050 in that price range?

bc i dont :/

[clever verge]

@spark cradle we got the untranslated

[spark cradle]

#1385011384307421224 message

[clever verge]

Wait, sorry. I'm late to the party 🤣

Sorry

❤️

[spark cradle]

can this device run the majority of the 3DS library?

Anbernic is releasing a dualscreen clamshell of their own that is more focused on the NDS for around the same price

T620 + dualscreen clamshell will probably be sold for Cube prices aka ~150

[clever verge]

It's probably a h700, but do they really need anything stronger for nds?

[spark cradle]

you'd have a pretty clear winner to everyone outside of the Anbernic cult if you guys can release a device that's capable of running both NDS and 3DS at the same price

[vagrant iris]

They said it's T620 O_O

[spark cradle]

screenshot mentioned T620

[clever verge]

Ah

More android

[spark cradle]

Gamma will save us

[clever verge]

Gamma can't save everything

[spark cradle]

or Spruce once you guys get back from vacation

[vagrant iris]

which sort of makes sense, they said that their XX successor will be somewhere between RK3566 and T618 performance

[clever verge]

He also has to want to

[spark cradle]

introduce Linux to these devices!

[vagrant iris]

But everyone assumed p65 based on some delivery notes

[clever verge]

Has to exsist for us to do anything. Not all chips support Linux. And most of the teams can even create Linux kernels from scratch

[spark cradle]

but yeah XU should have a winner on their hands if that $150 device can run 3DS well

[sharp cloud]

anbernic one if true has the advantage of using the same screen for both, so no worry about height and resolution difference between the 2 screen. no worry about different panel colors/brightness etc as well.
A 3DS focused device with 2 different screens is more messy in that aspect

i actually like the two58 (at least the screen, not talking about design) they mentioned previously for 3ds, only disadvantage is not having a gap for DS unless you resize the screen smaller.
For 3ds, i think no games rely on the gap?

[spark cradle]

the T620 just doesn't have the horsepower to run the more intensive 3DS games

it's not a matter of screen size, XU can beat the Anbernic offering as long as their device is powerful enough to run the games even if the screens are a bit scuffed for 3DS

[glad oriole]

There are two types of dual-screen devices:

1. Dual screens displaying different content (difficult to develop)
2. Dual screens displaying the same content (easy to develop)

Price depends on the difference; the final product is not the same.

Dual-screen display of different contents requires a specific Soc and official support to be possible

[zealous jolt]

Dual screens displaying the same content is useless loll

[jolly kettle]

Dual screens displaying the same content is abit redundant

[storm warren]

Well, pretty sure Luna means the same app stretched across both screens

[glad oriole]

I mean the screen contents are the same on Android. On 3DS and NDS emulators, the top and bottom screens are different. That's not dual screen.

Domestic handheld game console manufacturers do not yet have the independent research and development capabilities for Android upper and lower screen different content technology. Currently, only 2-3 manufacturers can do so.

[dreamy lark]

neither are two button devices

[bronze yew]

Single-Core performance is the important part for most Emulation tho

[jolly kettle]

The G1's A78s are clocked at 2.4GHz

The G510's are at 2GHz

[bronze yew]

yeah, which is why I'm doubting that it performs better

[tawny swan]

if u talk about G1 it is

7050 on that cpu lvl too (similar single power) and way better gpu

[sharp cloud]

G510 more balance in terms of cpu:GPU, but for beetle without hardware acceleration, g1 gen 2 should get the win.

[bronze yew]

ideally MTK smacks together a chip with 2x Cortex-A715 and some ass Cortex-A55 as efficiency cores, then puts at least a Mali G68 on top and makes it cheap enough to put in a $99 device

[glad oriole]

You want to see the price of retro handhelds collapse should come soon, but it means that this industry is over and no new devices will appear

[bronze yew]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-7510700295202730251

[glad oriole]

If the D7350 sells for $99, we can declare the retro handheld market dead!

[bronze yew]

jokes aside, I already said above that these devices would then have to sell over form factor, screens and features, instead of mostly power to even emulate stuff

like personally on a $99 PS2 handheld, I would prefer a large 4:3 display, but arguably a standard 16:9 panel would most likely be cheaper

currently we are stuck in the categories
PS1 and below
PSP and below
GCN and some PS2
"full" PS2
and above PS2

but reasonably we will reach the point where it's
PS2 and below
and Switch and Winlator for the more expensive devices

[glad oriole]

It will be coming soon, and there will be multiple ratios 16:9 3:2 4:3

[sharp cloud]

I still want a cheap/budget large screen 3:2 for solely GBA only (so need to be cheap)

[glad oriole]

A higher-end version, A78Soc Android R36, should appear soon

[bronze yew]

XU40 H44 is cheap enough in my book for that, at least a lot cheaper than the Ayaneo Pocket ACE

[glad oriole]

$99 PS2 full 1.5x resolution God of War 2

[bronze yew]

I think we broke Luna

[sharp cloud]

I waiting for powkiddy with their a527 paired with ktr1 screen 🙏

[glad oriole]

[bronze yew]

Powkiddy is dead, R36S buried it

[tawny swan]

strange logic

You sound like the margin is already so low, but its not close to truth
All this industry needs is promotion (This will reduce margins, while sales will be much higher due to the popularity of the product line)

[lyric totem]

Emulation is a grey area. Difficult for them to just openly sell mainstream without risk.

If you sell blank devices like with Android, you risk the user not being able to setup properly.

So in a way this hobby will always be niche

[frigid condor]

oh no, sean’s job security

[bronze yew]

we will employ Sean to feed Bobby

[frigid condor]

[languid dagger]

Which handheld are we talking about? 😲

[jolly kettle]

There is none of that kind in existence

A hypothetical

[bronze yew]

We are trying to ruin the industry by dreaming of a $99 device that's pretty much fully PS2 capable... even if it could pretty much be realized around a G1 Gen2

[livid herald]

Give it time; as chips get incrememtally more powerful, we'll hit that by the time Kingdom Hearts IV comes out

[remote swallow]

Just got mine.

Anyone have a guide on how to set up second sd cards? Or if Gamma already got a unit and is working on something for it?

[fiery panther]

Same as Zero 28

And good luck

It might not woke up some day

Me and some users have reported that issue

And no Gamma yet

[remote swallow]

In what way? Did it stall and just go back to the boot-up loading screen after trying to boot Aurora?

Cause I tried using the 2TB Micro SD card I usually use for all Android stuff for SD2, and it would just keep doing that since it would never finish reading it, I’m guessing it was just too much for it?

Regardless, using a smaller sd card for the SD2 slot worked fine.

[remote swallow]

So it could be that (or any other issue related to the sd card for sd2), or it could more likely be that the sd card used for SD1 isn’t good.

[fiery panther]

Simply, pressing the power button to turn off the screen (like a phone) and then it simply won't wake up

Check #🪄│magicx-chat

[remote swallow]

Oh, you had me thinking it was literally like it just dies and stops working no matter what.

That’s also annoying, particularly since it defeats the whole purpose of Android devices, but at least it’s not literally just dead.

[glad oriole]

What brand of card are you using? There are requirements for starting Android with a card.

I would like to ask those who have received the XU20. Have you encountered the problem of not being able to wake up from sleep mode when using the original SD card or the brand SD card?

[remote swallow]

…Did you by any chance mean “SD card” when you said “SIM card”?

[glad oriole]

It's an SD card

[fiery panther]

SanDisk 64gb A1, good quality SD brand

Flashed the image from the GitHub page

It worked fine until this morning

So the problem isn't the card

Very probably that isn't

The other user that reported the issue said that it is the card from the Zero 28

Kioxia

But with the XU20 image flashed on it

Which I think it is also A1

[glad oriole]

Can take pictures of SD card

[fiery panther]

Sure

It feels sturdy and the printing is high quality
No way this is fake lol

I got it from the MercadoLibre SanDisk official store

[glad oriole]

OK, I will contact the MagicX technicians to update and solve the problem as soon as possible.

[fiery panther]

Thanks

Seems like the problem is the system not being able to wake up the screen
Because the system still running

I connected the charging cable and it made the charging sound effect

But I couldn't see anything

The only way to see something was by doing a hard shutdown

And reboot

But then after putting it back to sleep, same issue

Video of the issue

[stark stirrup]

Will minui work on this ? Since it went to the zero28

[fiery panther]

Not sure if Shaun will make a build for it

Also he cancelled all Minui versions

[burnt current]

Is Shaun still AWOL?

I know he was for a time

[drowsy bison]

He's back, you can check his logs for his comments on minUI

[fiery panther]

Oh I saw it

[burnt current]

Why?

[fiery panther]

Idk they say "deprecated"

[fiery panther]

Oh he said no more consoles will have MinUI

On #1095561573046685696

[sullen tide]

MinUI development has ceased. No More new device support.

[dry sierra]

tf? what?

that was a really good os

what happened

[burnt current]

His kids must have gotten too cool for it lol

[storm warren]

Theres no Linux for this yet.

[remote swallow]

Could you also ask the Dawn developers to try and modify it so that it can detect games that are in Sub-Folders (like, as an example, if there are games inside of a “Pokemon” folder that’s inside of the “gba” folder)?

It’s my absolute biggest pet peeve with launchers since I regularly just like organizing my games into sub-folders whenever I have a sufficiently large enough collection of specific romhacks and such, and it always sucks when launchers don’t bother to try detecting games in those sub-folders.

[remote swallow]

It especially sucks imo since this is based on Daijisho, and that launcher does detect games in sub-folders perfectly fine.

[fiery panther]

Go to the MagicX server and leave the suggestion to Breeze

[remote swallow]

Also, weirdly enough it’s not doing that for me? Is this supposed to be inconsistent and I’ve just been lucky?

[fiery panther]

Probably it is random idk

For the other user that had the problem it was also random

[remote swallow]

Just made a suggestion in the Dawn launcher feedback channel, am I supposed to tag breeze in there or?

[fiery panther]

On feedback yes

That's enough

[remote swallow]

Nice, fast response.

[spark cradle]

wait this isn't configurable?

[remote swallow]

Not on XU20 V32 from what I can tell, and when I asked Breeze, their response made it sound like it wasn’t there yet. Unless you mean “can’t you select the folders used”, in which case no actually.

You can only select a folder for it to make a ROMS folder in, and if there already is one it’ll just make the folders missing. But if you select the roms folder itself, it’ll just make a new roms folder inside of that.

[errant mauve]

i flashed the firmware to a new SD now, will put my roms later too

probably for the best with that too, while i do respect how well filled out it is it is a lot of games even for me as a hoarder haha

[rare junco]

I finally had some time to go retrieve the package and set up the device. I must say that I love the dpad, much more so than the Zero28. But the shoulders are too clicky and loud. I prefer the Zero28 shoulder buttons way more.

And the device came completely discharged so that scared me for a moment. But otherwise I haven't encountered other issues so far.

[glad oriole]

Announcement
Some users have reported issues with the Xu20 waking from sleep. We tested 100 devices and repeated the sleep and wake cycles 50 times without any issues. We have confirmed that the issue is due to SD card compatibility. The Xu20 is no longer available in stores without an SD card.

[fiery panther]

Oh

Then what card do you recommend

[glad oriole]

Kioxia, SanDisk, and matching cards have all passed the test

[fiery panther]

I'm using SanDisk

A1

Should I re flash the image and see if it happens again?

[sharp cloud]

does your test involve putting it to sleep for longer period? think someone mentioned it happened when sleeping for a day or similar. And does not occurs if you sleep and wake immediately

[fiery panther]

Yes

It left it overnight and it wake up in a comma

[spark cradle]

he's asking Luna I think

[fiery panther]

Not by spamming the sleep button

[fiery panther]

I'm the one who mentioned the way it happened

Leaving it overnight on sleep mode

[glad oriole]

Various sleep time periods have been tested

[fiery panther]

Test a full day or something

I'll re flash, making sure the the SD is completely empty

If it happens again, I'll just wait for Gamma OS if Gamma ends making it for this console

[spark cradle]

the LeBron of Android handheld OSes

[fiery panther]

Yee

[glad oriole]

You try Zero28's Kioxia card

[fiery panther]

Yeah I have it laying around

I could try it

[glad oriole]

If you test it with the Zero28 Kioxia card and find a problem, it will be easy to fix.

[fiery panther]

Btw I think you missed the word "could"
Without it, it sounds like an order

[fiery panther]

Okay

Btw @glad oriole how do I track the piece of the XU20 that you guys send me lol

I didn't received any tracking number

[glad oriole]

I use mobile translation software, so the translation may be incorrect for a long time. Please don't mind.

[fiery panther]

Oh wait wait I did

Nevermind

It was at the bottom of the email

[fiery panther]

It's fine

Chinese to English translators are quite funky sometimes

They usually make things sound very unnatural lol

[bronze yew]

It's kinda funny how few Asians actually speak English

[burnt current]

Idk if I'd say funny

[spark cradle]

mostly East Asians

SEA and South Asia have high English literacy rates due to colonialism

[burnt current]

India, Singapore, Philippines, Malaysia

I know in India in particular, their entire school curriculum is in English

[frigid condor]

Helps that ASEAN languages tend to be a bit closer to English

[bronze yew]

I mean, I can agree on South Asia being somewhat capable of English, but they ain't exactly what I picture when I think about Asians, just because they are on the Asian plate... especially as Europe technically also is 😅

and SEA seems rather low in English literacy to me

[burnt current]

Heavily country-dependant

Since not all of them were British colonies

I think like half of Singaporeans can speak English

Idk if there are any numbers for Indonesia, but they were a Dutch colony, so speaking rates would be much lower

[bronze yew]

the Japanese could at least have learned German after being our allies during WW2

do Indonesians speak drunk German (Dutch)?

[spark cradle]

only marginally, also the modern variants are closer to English because of colonialism lol

e.g. Cantonese in Hong Kong has a bunch of English loanwords

[frigid condor]

colonialism

if only if it was a cat

[burnt current]

You could say I am rather biased against colonialism

Just a little

So uh

The XU20, huh?

That's a device

I hope my PCB arrives soon

[spark cradle]

the non-English colonies picked up English pretty quickly once it became the lingua franca of the world

[spark cradle]

they absolutely hate the Dutch so no

[errant mauve]

It's pretty cool that so many people over there put in the effort to speak english, i know it doesnt often go the other way around from us in the US

I learned a tiny bit of spanish and trying to learn japanese cuz of all the weeb games but i dont think i could be remotely conversational like them

[sudden narwhal]

I'm using a Sandisk A2 which I'm sure it's a good quality, but I'm still experiencing an issue where the device won't wake up after sleep. Have you tried putting it to sleep while in-game? When I wake it, the sound comes out but the screen stays black.

[fiery panther]

I feel like they are doing something wrong with the tests

[glad oriole]

Currently we need to find a specific SD card to test if it fails to wake from sleep mode before we can adjust the incompatible SD card.

Today we continue to test the sleep wake-up function with various types of SD cards, and we have not found any wake-up failure.

[fiery panther]

I'll test the Kioxia 128gb card from my Zero 28 today

If it fails, then more tests will be needed

[clever verge]

@glad oriole rather than canceling the "No SD card option", maybe have a Statement or Notice to ONLY use (Insert Name Brands Here) SD cards. Otherwise they would be using them at their own risk

[frigid condor]

Also most people use ‘quality’ sd cards on their devices anyway

[clever verge]

I really like the option

I was gonna use the No SD card Option with my H50 order

But I'm a "Professional"

[storm warren]

As a fellow professional, all Sandisk cards I tried so far worked perfectly fine

[zealous jolt]

I guess @fiery panther just isn’t professional enough

[fiery panther]

Maybe I flashed it wrong

I'm gonna try later

Is the option "destroy all partitions" on partition wizard the way to format this SD card?

[fiery panther]

Or what other way do you recommend

To be safer

[fiery panther]

Please

[fiery panther]

Oh well

[zealous jolt]

Do you run windows or linux?

[jolly kettle]

RG476H will retail for $174.99

XU guys have a prime opportunity to shart all over the thing. XU40 H44 will kill it off when it releases..or a hypothetical 4:3 XU40 with analog triggers

[zealous jolt]

Too much for T820 tbh, that's how much the 406h/v launched for a year and a half ago or whatever

[jolly kettle]

Luna was right to shit on t820 pricing

[bronze yew]

I don't think that's nearly ready

[jolly kettle]

True

But when they release the xu40 h44 even

It's over for the rg476h

[bronze yew]

I want my XU Pocket ACE now

[clever verge]

I want a Jamacian Jerk Chicken Pizza

[fiery panther]

Windowos

[zealous jolt]

ah in that case whatever partition manager like minitool partition wizard should work just fine, or you could use something like the official sd card formatting tool

[rare junco]

Fwiw, I just woke up mine from a 12+ hour sleep with no issues. Using Sandisk cards for both slots.

[fiery panther]

I'll reflash on top of my SanDisk card

I see what happened

I'm using an old version of the firmware

Probably that's why

[fiery panther]

Downloading the latest firmware

[rose marlin]

This is a long shot, but anyone else located in China and having trouble finding the XU20 V32? I can't seem to find it on taobao, xianyu or jd. Just a couple sellers with the old XU10.

Feels like a lot of these smaller manufacturers like magicX are specifically targeting the overseas market and don't sell locally.

[fiery panther]

I don't think they are sold at China

[rose marlin]

Could be. It's usually easy to find stuff from Anbernic, AYN, Retroid and Ayaneo here (often at a premium, believe it or not). A lot of other stuff can be a little more difficult to find, despite everything being made here.

[spark cradle]

Anbernic*

[spark cradle]

they only sell on 1688

[frigid condor]

I’m pretty sure MagicX is not allowed to sell directly to customers in China

@glad oriole did say that their company does have plans to sell to customers domestically, but I don’t know when that will happen

[rose marlin]

gotcha, thanks everyone for the info!

[fiery panther]

Alright I have good feelings about this new reflashing I did to the XU20
The system also feels less slow somehow

[remote swallow]

Oh yeah, didn’t they say something about warning users to reflash it if they did it a certain time before? Or am I thinking of a different firmware?

[fiery panther]

Yeah it was this

My bad

I was reporting stuff from an old version

Which seems like I missed when they updated it

Also, seems like F Droid is not something that we should install on this

Without it, the system runs faster

[fiery panther]

Yeah apks and manual installs is the way

[spark cradle]

wait there are shortcuts for this? it's how I use my Classic lol

[fiery panther]

Ye

Stores

[fiery panther]

Found the reason of the issue I was having with the sleep mode

So yeah

Do not put your consoles on minimum brightness

And let's hope that Breeze and Luna can fix this

[tender reef]

I have reproduced the problem just now. The problem will be solved soon. I will upload the static firmware again.

If you encounter this problem, you can use SELECT+Volume+Increase Brightness. Currently, it seems that the problem of incorrect screen brightness is caused by the wake-up trigger at the lowest brightness.

[fiery panther]

Thanks dude
Ping us when the next firmware update is ready

Here or in the MagicX server

[tender reef]

Thank you for your continued testing

[sharp cloud]

So many were using it at minimum brightness?

[lone jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-wakey-wakey-awaken-gif-26734899

[rare junco]

Have we found any good options for screen protectors?

[solemn pumice]

Good Job Rich

[sudden narwhal]

Yayy thank you 🙌

[sudden narwhal]

Similar to the Trimui Brick (probably the exact same panel?), the screen is super bright—even at the lowest brightness setting. 🤣

[fiery panther]

Is this going to stay like this? Since I discovered that the SD was completely unrelated

[fiery panther]

@tender reef ?

[zealous jolt]

it shouldn't stay like that imo, at least when magicx did it they gave you a quality card, i don't want to be forced to pay extra for a trash card lol

[solemn pumice]

@frigid condor what happened to the colors of the H55

Surely they make another poll and add some transparent colors

[bronze yew]

surely they will just move forward with all these ugly color combinations

[burnt current]

I think some of these colours would work better as transparent

[solemn pumice]

Like, they made banger transparent colors for the v20

Why not for the v30 series as well

[frigid condor]

idk

[solemn pumice]

Then find out or :

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cooking-fries-ai-cat-mcdonald's-gif-15253947472684078251

[frigid condor]

[woven shell]

4 is the best colorway i've ever seen on a handheld

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/bellibolt-frog-pokemon-gif-26925217

[woven shell]

he looks quite friendly

[fiery panther]

Ye it is scummy that they offer us those cards

And force us to pay for them

[storm warren]

This

As a fellow 4 voter, it was the only correct choice

[remote swallow]

Oh hey Frysee, did you happen to get the XU20 V32?

[storm warren]

Yes

[remote swallow]

Nice, is it similar enough that NextUI might work on it without too much issues?

[storm warren]

Well, I have already soldered uart to figure something out

But I'm also out of town this week on a business trip, so no progress

[fiery panther]

With that this would be just Trimui Brick but cheaper lol

[zealous jolt]

If nextui or another awesome linux cfw comes to the XU20 i'm probably buying one tbh, I wonder how easy/hard it would be to port nextui to the zero28. I would think its possible since its the same cpu as the brick, minui also works on the zero28 which is the base of nextui so

[fiery panther]

I hope we see Next UI on the Zero 28 or even the Xu Mini M

[storm warren]

I have been messing around a bit with zero 28 in preparation for the xu20, but the rotated screen makes it a tad annoying

[fiery panther]

Maybe the XU20 doesn't have a rotated screen

Who knows

[storm warren]

Well from what Ive seen so far there's some indication of it being rotated 180 degrees

[frigid condor]

there was a picture of the xu20 bootloader where the screen was rotated 90 degrees

[fiery panther]

I wonder from what it is recycled

A camera?

[burnt current]

That's actually a really smart theory

Since for a camera, you want it to have a high res screen so you can make sure a photo is good

But the screen is also quite small

I can't imagine it for any other purpose

[storm warren]

The boot image on xu20 is stored upside-down, so 90 degrees would surprise me

[frigid condor]

nvm it's recovery

[static aurora]

Will receive my repair kit tomorrow 🔥

[karmic shore]

Livestream review of the V32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWJcOyiVaFA

[static aurora]

Thanks XURetro! ❤️

[bronze yew]

the wake up issue is while putting it to sleep on low brightness, so it's the software not the SD

[fiery panther]

Yep

I was screaming at the tv when he said that

But yeah I understand that this MagicX channels are so active that it is hard to catch up

[karmic shore]

But the software is ON the SD

https://tenor.com/view/confused-math-what-wtf-peep-gif-6081931

[sinful mortar]

luna was blaming the issue on any sd cards that weren't theirs 🤣

[bronze yew]

and in the end it was the software, that was theirs

[fiery panther]

What if it was a way to get more money by forcing people to buy units with SDs

[fiery panther]

Hope not

Luna say something ffs

And let people buy console with no SD

[fiery panther]

XU20 V32 - Firmware Update is ready for Download
https://github.com/Magicx-Breeze/XU20_V32/releases/tag/XU20_v1

[fiery panther]

Very good update
There still some stuff that needs to be polished but it's a good start

[spark cradle]

would you say that this is plug and play for the average user

obviously assuming that they've done their research on emulation but are still new to the whole thing

[frigid condor]

these updates erase all your data so no

[spark cradle]

I mean if they download the updated version of the firmware upon receiving the device

[sharp cloud]

Ota don't work on the xu20 v32?

[fiery panther]

No

[remote swallow]

Alright nice, just got the replacement parts for the triggers.

Unfortunately I had to leave my house before I could actually replace them, but this time I took it and my screwdriver kit with so I can at least take care of it when I have the time.

[fiery panther]

Any tips to make the shoulder buttons of the XU20 less rattly? After installing the new pieces, they are more rattly than before

[fiery panther]

Fixed with tape lol

To fix it
Just put some tape in the upper part of the shoulder buttons that touches the shell

[drowsy bison]

I placed some kapton tape on the switches, works pretty well

[fiery panther]

This is how the interior of my console looks like

It isn't pretty, but works

[frigid condor]

I wonder what “OPQ” on the battery means

I see it on all of their device batteries

[lone jolt]

might be their oem name

[frigid condor]

[fiery panther]

Does it rattle

[iron zodiac]

Is there a way to add BT to the xu20?

[fiery panther]

I don't think so

[static aurora]

After assembled, all looks good👍

[fiery panther]

That's nice

[rare junco]

I just installed the replacement parts too and yeah, it rattles lol

That's 28xx level rattling

Gonna have to apply some tape

[static aurora]

It rattles for you because of installed replacement parts? 🤔

[rare junco]

Yeah, I have no idea why tbh. Maybe the recessed portion of the replacement part where the button clips on to (don't know what to call it) has a slightly different thickness.

[north dove]

Yeah, if the mold is slightly different from what was originally intended for the device, it’d do that

RG28XX has probably the worst rattle out of all 100+ of my devices, so it being that bad sounds awful lol

[jolly kettle]

Aya Pocket Air Mini will have a 799RMB variant with the Helio G99 apparently

Let's see if they inflate the western prices

[tawny swan]

who sayed that

[spark cradle]

saw it being talked about in the Pocket Air Mini QQ chat and heard the streamer mention 799 for a second (didn't catch what he said exactly though, I was preoccupied with something else at that moment )

[tawny swan]

known guy in chat sayed that, or random?

[spark cradle]

unfortunately random but it was a number of them

[tawny swan]

weird

[spark cradle]

awaiting for official confirmation ig

[tawny swan]

so someone sayed that ... u need to find source

112$ for G99 from Aya it pretty good deal

but that price will be only in china bet or for limited time

[fiery panther]

I don't expect the XU20 receiving more firmware updates, I think as it is is decently solid
The most important issue was already fixed and the rest of issues are related to the Aurora app itself

But not sure what Breeze has in mind

[languid dagger]

Do we know what the battery capacity (in mAh) is for the XU35 H50?

[storm warren]

Anyone having issues with the second SD slot, or am I just too dumb to use it?

[drowsy bison]

which device

[fiery panther]

XU20 I believe

Yes it is hard to reach

[storm warren]

Yeah, xu20

I cant seem to get a second card to show up in Android

[drowsy bison]

I formatted with SD card formatter to exFAT before I put it in mine, and then marked it as portable with the device dialog for SD cards

[fiery panther]

Format as exfat
Wait for the notification of the SD, set it as portable device, do not format with the console

Then use Aurora to select the SD

The root of the SD, not the roms folder

And then reset Aurora

[fiery panther]

If the notification doesn't show, the SD might be fried or the port itself

Or it is formatted wrong

[storm warren]

I've tried pretty much all formatting tools and partition layouts I could think of, I'm not getting a notification

Funnily enough, I can swap the Android SD card to the other port and it boots just fine

[fiery panther]

Check the storage settings on the settings menu

And scroll down to see if is there

If isn't there, yep your SD port is cooked

And you will have to send a mail to Xu retro

With video proof

[storm warren]

Well, I'm officially dumb

Apparently, both slots work for the OS card

But only the right one will work for a secondary card?

If I'm booting off the right slot, no card is being detected in the left slot

[fiery panther]

Lmao

How curious

But I mean

All consoles use the left slot for OS

At least the ones from Anbernic

[storm warren]

Yeah, what threw me off is that apparently both work for the OS card

[drowsy bison]

I think there's some code in Aurora that hard codes the right slot to external storage, it was the same way in the Zero 28

[storm warren]

Not just Aurora, same behavior when booting Linux actually

[zealous jolt]

There’s a Linux build for the xu20 already?

Oh wait I see the nextUI tag next to your name

Is Next gonna be coming to the xu20?

[fiery panther]

Can we get it on the Xu Mini M as well please

[storm warren]

If I can get everything up and running, yes

[zealous jolt]

Out of curiosity, what exactly does it take to port nextui to a device? Like for instance the zero28, since it has the Tina linux build and minui is most of the work already done and all you have to do is add some paks and other nextui stuff? Or is that grossly over simplifying things lol

[storm warren]

The problem specifically with zero28 is the rotated screen. I can bring up NextUI on that no problem, but the issue is that every single community pak and standalone emulator has to handle the rotation by itself, which is a huge turnoff

[zealous jolt]

Oh jeez I see, that's pretty rough

[storm warren]

I was messing around trying to get the hardware rotation working, but got distracted by xu20

[zealous jolt]

What exact skills does one need to accomplish such tasks? Cuz I kinda want to start helping on these community projects but don't really know anything, like to the point where it's hard to start learning since I don't know what I have to learn if that makes sense

[storm warren]

Well, one thing thats irreplaceable is problem-solving skills and having fun at trial&erroring yourself towards a solution based on incomplete information

[zealous jolt]

Gotcha, I like to think I’m good at that stuff but 🤷‍♂️

[sharp cloud]

Don't know the chip yet, but looks like tough competition for the H40 ($90?)

[storm warren]

I think most community projects are happy about any kind of involvement, just find a problem thats interesting to you and see what you can achieve

[zealous jolt]

I appreciate the tips

[frigid condor]

what about chasing red dots

[burnt current]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-laser-eyes-the-boys-antony-starr-trendizisst-gif-17944551246244314936

Chase the red dot

[frigid condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chasing-dot-reddot-gif-11119376

[remote swallow]

At the very least, Breeze already said they’d work on scanning subfolders for Dawn.

[sudden narwhal]

Just installed the replacement part from Xuretro 👌

[fiery panther]

But that seems to be app update

And I hope most of the next updates are just that, I want to play my classic android games lol

And I can't extract the saves on most of them

[fiery panther]

If it rattles, use tape

[glad oriole]

People are evaluating XU20 with tinted glasses, which is hard for us to understand. Is it a wrong decision to sell it at such a low price?

[burnt current]

I'm confused by the question

[glad oriole]

The XU20 is a device with 2GDDR4 memory, a touch screen, and a 765P resolution, priced at around $50. To attract a large number of gamers, it was marketed at cost, and the expectations people had for the XU20 were too high, making it difficult for us to accept the various reviews.

The retro handheld market has reached a saturated stage. After XU20, we will not launch any more Android touch-screen devices below $70 because people's standards for these devices are getting higher and higher.

[idle sierra]

I think the low cost market is saturated in general, format nonwithstanding. Really hard to introduce anything new

[radiant lantern]

From what I can tell, reviews for the xu20 have been mostly positive tbh, haven't really seen any major critiques besides maybe the dpad pressing issue on launch. That being said yeah, there's a lot of competition at this price point, around $100 is the sweet spot I think

[rare junco]

There's no doubt the market for low-priced handhelds is getting saturated and people's expectations are getting higher, but has the reception of the XU20 really been that bad? I was under the impression that it was received quite positively.

[fiery panther]

Who the fuck is complaining lmao

Reddit?

Nobody is happy there

YouTubers like it

Normal people outside of reddit like it

I like it

And all the people here like it

I haven't read any complains

Other than hardware stuff that can be fixed with tape and glue

And the pieces you guys send

If I where you guys, I wouldn't leave the low cost market, in terms of Android, there is only a few

And, since Google is dropping support for sideloading Android apps, using old builds of Android will help with the preservation of classic Android games

There will be a big niche there

Angry Birds will no longer be playable anymore, for example

The XU20 is an amazing console for those games

The next step on something like this for retro android games, with a 3:2 or 16:9 console

That runs on Android 10 or 12, 10 has better compatibility with old Android games

[fiery panther]

Maybe an Android version of the Powkiddy V10
But... Less mid?

I heard that it had a bunch of problems

[sinful mortar]

aside from your standard stock cores being out of date and wierd +- buttons I thought it was ok

[fiery panther]

Yeah those +- buttons are weird

Don't put that

And give it instead what the XU20 has

[sinful mortar]

also they were cheap af 🤣

[fiery panther]

1 dolar

[storm warren]

I dont have many complaints about it, apart from it being Android 😄

[fiery panther]

For me it was the main selling point

Touch + android

[bronze yew]

I mean, the expectations on the whole market are getting higher, what has been peak a few years back wouldn't sell today

The XU20 is solid for what it is, but arguably the more interesting spot in the market currently is between $75-150

And I'm talking about stuff like the Magmi X, not Anbernics XX devices or even MagicXs Zero40 when it comes down to it

[fiery panther]

We will see if people buy the turquoise console thing

XU35 I believe

[solemn pumice]

XU 30 H40?

[fiery panther]

Dis

I like it

More than the Tone35 honestly

If the Tone35 gets cancelled and this doesn't, I'll get this

[solemn pumice]

Ye that’s the XU30 H40, they should release it before the H56 honestly

They got rid of XU35 and made it XU30 instead. And turned the former XU 30 into the „XU Pocket“ line

[dreamy lark]

for me the only issue is that a the miyoo mini + offers a smaller size while having a bigger screen, I know its more powerful and has a better screen, but on that size i dont think those are that important

[zealous jolt]

Tbf most YouTubers “like” anything, or maybe not most but definitely a solid amount are shills. I won’t name any names but I’ve had to stop watching a couple channels due to how bad it’s gotten, saying the same things about every handheld as if they’re reading it off a script

[sinful mortar]

positivity gets clicks I'd say watch some more critical channels but I dont know any really.
Maybe joey but hes more I dont like this style of system therefore it has no value

[noble mirage]

Yeah, I think Joey goes a bit too far in the other direction at times.
I think he’s gotten better about making it clear it’s his opinion, but he still has the moments of saying there’s no reason to get something bc this other system that has very different uses and style is better in everyway (spoiler alert: not better in everyway x3)

He did that with the Odin 2 Portal and Anbernic 476M from my recollection

[frigid condor]

Luna, what reviews have you been reading

[radiant lantern]

Wicked collector I think

He complained a lot about the lack of analog sticks, but like if you want analog sticks then it's just not for you

[storm warren]

Where would those even fit on that device, come on

[sinful mortar]

yeah he does it alot.
idk its become hey look at the toys I like more than actual reviews

theres room for opinion with objectivity but he really seems to lack the objectivity part alot of the time

Its nice when he doesnt pull his punches on actual issues tho

[noble mirage]

I find Russ more objective than Joey personally.
Russ lists the pros and cons of the device, makes it clear when he is or isn’t fully qualified on more specific issues, and lets the viewer make the decision for themselves whether to buy it or not

Much better approach than just straight up being told not to buy it bc insert very obviously subjective reason(s) here

[storm warren]

Wasnt a big fan of his latest reviews tbh

[noble mirage]

Yeah, I don’t always like every review he does, but I don’t think there’s a reviewer out there where every review they make is a hit no matter what

[sinful mortar]

this tbh idk tho russ is super safe about issue barely goes into detail or digs into it

[noble mirage]

His recent… 476h review I think it’s called?
I think he didn’t make as much of an issue out of how loud the trigger was than I think he could’ve

I found it obnoxiously loud personally

[sinful mortar]

I think theres room for a more critical viewpoint but hard to get given consoles when you call out companies flaws

[noble mirage]

Considering he’s been blacklisted by Ayaneo before for calling out stuff, I don’t think that’s an issue for him really

[sinful mortar]

expecially with dealing w/ chinese companies
they much dont understand the benefits of unbiased media

[noble mirage]

I think he just has different standards for how big issues have to be for him to not recommend it at all

I can see how his style of reviewing can be considered too safe though

As long as he is calling out the issues something does have though, I’m not that bothered

[frigid condor]

you make it an accessory that fits around your paw duh

[frigid condor]

Eh I’m pretty sure at least one reviewer has been blacklisted by a company at some point, it sounds like common practice

[pine current]

The only reason I haven't bought one yet has been the issues with the triggers/backplate. I want one to replace my miyoo mini and brick. Android is a big selling point to me, and the price is amazing. I've just been dragging my feet waiting for them to come out of the box fixed.

[noble mirage]

Super loud triggers are annoying to me.
I put up with it on my old R36s bc of the price point, but loud triggers are much more annoying to me than loud buttons

[pine current]

yeah, if they can get all that stuff sorted...I'll take two lol the colors are great.

[fiery panther]

For silent triggers, a Zero 28 does a better job

As I said before, having both consoles complement each other quite well
You use the XU20 to play games that don't require shoulder buttons, Android games and simple stuff, and the Zero 28 for games that requires a lot of inputs

[zealous jolt]

You mean the issue where the shoulder buttons would get press when pressing the dpad/abxy buttons really hard? Cuz as far as I’m aware the only units affected were the early bird ones, as long as you order after August 30th (I think) you won’t have to replace the little plastic bits

[pine current]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-o-rly-owl-gif-7905924

[zealous jolt]

#1351917232535507014 message

Time to order one lol

[static aurora]

Overall I'm happy with it, as it perefectly plays hollow knight, it can be seen on my video 😊 👍

[drowsy bison]

The XU20 is great, it's basically a RG35XX Plus/Brick with a nice working touchscreen

[fiery panther]

I just hope they re consider selling the non SD version

[spark cradle]

黑子不需要理會吧，我沒看到有正經的老外在批評 XU20，大部份評價都是挺正面

大部份人都講道理，~48 美元不會要求甚麼自行車

這價錢有 Android, 兩激內存，高解像度觸屏和不錯的硬件很多人都已經滿足了，等老外出 cfw 這會是神機

不少想入坑的人會想低價買部掌機試水温，就算貴公司不再推出新的低價掌機也不要停產 XU20

[hoary egret]

赞成

[jolly kettle]

@glad oriole The Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini has the MTK G90T

https://ayaneo.com.cn/product/AYANEO-Pocket-AIR-Mini

2 fucking gigabytes of ram you can't be serious

It's either 2+32GB or 3+64GB

[burnt current]

Can't imagine what difference 3 GB would make

[jolly kettle]

But that price...

And the soc itself

This could actually compete with the xu30

[burnt current]

I mean it will

[jolly kettle]

But then again this is early bird pricing I think

Think the 3 gig version will have a normal price of $100

[burnt current]

Tbh the difference in SoC doesn't really change anything for me since it's still not fully GCN capable

[spark cradle]

@hoary egret @silk gull you guys can read Chinese?

[hoary egret]

I am Asian Chinese

[zealous jolt]

I used chatgpt

[solemn pumice]

This will be $100 shipped early bird and $120 shipped for retail

[solemn pumice]

Oh it will but I would still prefer the XU30 if it’s a flat and pocketable candybar

[zealous jolt]

100000000000

[solemn pumice]

Air Mini will be the same size and form factor as the cubexx and I was trying to get away from that

[zealous jolt]

I'm a firm believer that small handhelds should be pocketable. Stop putting stacked shoulders and ergo humps on what would otherwise be a perfect pocket carry lol

[burnt current]

I think One35 will still have a niche of being as powerful as it is for its size

[tawny swan]

now i want to know new prices on XU devices

since ayaneo goes rush

[tawny swan]

u mean ali?

or official site

[solemn pumice]

Official Site

[glad oriole]

Thank you for your support of XURetro

To thank our friends who support us, XURetro is launching the Dream Series Project to help all retro handheld game console enthusiasts realize their dream of buying their own devices as soon as possible.

[solemn pumice]

What does that even mean?

[tawny swan]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

maybe D7350 for 120$ meaning

[glad oriole]

This is the dream equipment for all vintage lovers. We leave no room for competition.

Please wait and see

[solemn pumice]

We got no other choice

[solemn pumice]

Please wait and see

[fiery panther]

Is that a schedule site or something

A roadmap site maybe?

[fiery panther]

Why so cryptic bro

[glad oriole]

The first device in the Dream series will be announced soon

[zealous jolt]

whatever this dream handheld is it better be pocketable

no stacked shoulders and no ergo humps!

[burnt current]

I dream of getting sloppy while I game

Make it happen Luna

[solemn pumice]

What does getting sloppy mean

[burnt current]

I should have said receiving

Would have made the meaning clearer

[solemn pumice]

I‘m not a native speaker, what does it mean, I can’t find anything online about it

[burnt current]

Shorthand for sloppy blowjob

I'm embarrassed to explain it lmao

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[fiery panther]

The dream is the Tone35

[burnt current]

You're also double posting gifs huh

Thought it was just me

[radiant lantern]

My dream is z28 with a d7350

[solemn pumice]

Tbf luna also appreciates easier translations

[solemn pumice]

I saw many more complain about if here

[fiery panther]

And touch screen

[burnt current]

I partially wanted Luna to not know what I was talking about lol

[solemn pumice]

For under $70

[jolly kettle]

Still waiting for Luna to rip this to shreds

2gb ram is a Geneva Convention violation at this price

[burnt current]

It certainly seems quite bad in comparison to One35, but I don't actually know what difference it makes

[bronze yew]

I don't see the 2gb version running any GCN tbh

[tawny swan]

aya kills every option to T820

[solemn pumice]

Watch them sending those out to Pocket S2 buyers

[tawny swan]

i have no idea how other will try to compete

7050 device for 100$ we need i think

[solemn pumice]

Or, something that’s actually pocketable

[tawny swan]

pocketable 4:3 7050

[bronze yew]

Fully expect that

[dry sierra]

kinda insane how gamecube has 43mbs of ram yet you need to much to run it

[bronze yew]

That didn't had Android running

Like on Linux 2gb are plenty

[plucky halo]

The dream series is already done by miyoo

You guys dream of getting a P60

https://tenor.com/view/aerosmith-dream-on-steve-tyler-rock-music-i-your-dreams-gif-21713693

[frigid condor]

you know what my dream would be?

cat

[clever verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chuby-cat-dance-gif-15991549

[rare junco]

help all retro handheld game console enthusiasts realize their dream of buying their own devices as soon as possible

Maybe they're gonna be handing out loans for poor people who want to buy ayaneo devices

[livid herald]

(Insert something about Linux handhelds)

[solemn pumice]

Hear me out.

A stickless, horizontal handheld that actually fits in your pocket

[bronze yew]

I just want a better Gamebub

[frigid condor]

nevermind that, it has to fit in your mouth

[clever verge]

How about using that d7050 or d7350 and giving everyone a Proper 405m replacement device

720p, 4", 4:3 Screen, recessed Hall Sticks, In Line Shoulder Bumpers, D Pad Top

Could even use Plastic to keep cost down

[frigid condor]

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826

[bronze yew]

sold, but use the 7350 tbh

[clever verge]

Didn't they already mention that chip would automatically make the device cost $170 US or more?

[bronze yew]

more like $150

idk what exactly we were talking about that drove cost up more

but yeah the 7050 arguably would be cheaper

but if we replace the 405m we need something capable to do the GCN and PS2 library IMO

[clever verge]

7050 = d1080~ right?

That should definitely be plenty of power to be a Proper successor to the t618

[bronze yew]

and with the influx of 4:3 devices right now, while the only higher end options are the 477m (which is too expensive in the 12/256 SKU) and the upcoming Pocket S Mini which will be easily $299, they could do a nice device that has sufficient power at a good price point

assuming that Retroid won't beat out the competition with a 4.5" OLED 4:3 device boasting a G2 Gen2

[bronze yew]

more like d900, while the 7350 is d1100

[bronze yew]

nevermind, MTK naming sucks

[clever verge]

No argument

Their naming sucks sooooo bad. Almost as bad as Xu & Anbernic & Powkiddy

[fiery panther]

XU20 but horizontal and with a button to switch Dpad function to Joystick?

I would buy something like that
But 3:2

[solemn pumice]

You lost me after „button to switch dpad function to joystick?“

[fiery panther]

3:2 for GBA and android apps that asks for wider screens

[fiery panther]

The small button of the Xu20 that changes/makes the Dpad work as a stick

[solemn pumice]

Well they won’t do it because too similar to the pocket

[fiery panther]

Is that 3:2?

But maybe, more GBA micro size? Lol

But not that small

[solemn pumice]

Here

[fiery panther]

Ah

Interesting

[glad oriole]

Dream Pocket

4-inch 960X720

[solemn pumice]

Isn’t that just the XU30 H40?

[rare junco]

So where the heck is this Dream series positioned at? I'm starting to think they're just throwing out random device names and specs to generate talk.

[woven shell]

Personally, one thing that really makes me unlikely to trust a brand is when they have 10-20 devices announced or in development with nothing to show for any of them.

Ayaneo does the exact same thing. If you want to be working on stuff behind closed doors, that's fine by me. But I should also have a clear idea of some sort of pipeline also.

The only devices the general public should have any information on are the one or two that are about to come out imminently.

[fiery panther]

What if

What if the Dream series mimic the Dreamcast

Would make sense

[frigid condor]

or what if there’s some really niche difference about dream series products that warrants a different series

[fiery panther]

Or maybe they are made to be DYI so we can make our "dream console"? Just like a just did with my Zero 28 glacier???

Like they give you a bunch of pieces, different dpads and you put them together as you please???

[earnest mountain]

XURetro style KTR1

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-clapping-applause-proud-happy-gif-9441839

[glad oriole]

After a week of negotiations with MagicX, the original XU30 and XU40 were canceled and replaced by the Dream series, which will launch two devices with 4-inch 960x720 popular screens at unimaginable prices.

The promotional poster of Dream 1 will be released in a few hours, including parameters, price, release date, etc. I hope everyone will help post it to major communities, channels, and YouTube posts.

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/dream-minecraft-dreamstan-dream-face-dream-face-reveal-gif-26848534

Can’t wait for the dream reveal

[frigid condor]

There’s no more xu30 h50?

are the prices really that unbelievable

[placid cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/miles-reface-no-i-wont-gif-18024270

[solemn pumice]

To clarify,

are you referring to the XU Pocket and XU Classic when saying original XU30?
And are you to the

1. XU40 H44 (3:2)
2. XU40 H45 (4:3)
3. XU40 H55 (16:9)

all equipped with the D7050 when referring to the XU40 line of devices?

[glad oriole]

Due to fierce market competition, MagicX planned to launch the One flip cover immediately after the launch of One35. Now that the price keeps dropping, they may cancel the One flip cover.

[frigid condor]

I thought MagicX already canceled the one flip already

[solemn pumice]

In theory the XU30 H40 and XU30 H55 should still be released.
Because they used to be the XU35 like before the XU Pocket and XU Classic had that name.

He seems to refer to the „original XU30 line“ after all

Rest in piece

@bronze yew it‘s over

[glad oriole]

The G85 Dream 1 is launched at manufacturing cost, unreservedly competing on price.

[frigid condor]

does that mean you’re literally not profiting from it

[solemn pumice]

Luna take a deep breath

[placid cosmos]

maybe its time for a nap

[frigid condor]

I did not expect the XU rep to be so personal when he arrived

I’m touched

[glad oriole]

In my opinion, after the launch of Dream 1 and Dream 2, the 3566-level equipment has become garbage, and there will be no new models of PS2 full-level equipment.

[placid cosmos]

they shouldnt be touching you, thats harassment

[frigid condor]

they can touch me if touching == petting

[placid cosmos]

[sharp cloud]

if the rk3566 start appearing in the sub 40 devices (like the rk3326 now) i think they are still ok 👀

[solemn pumice]

When you have the time luna .. ;))

[glad oriole]

Not to mention 3566, A537 can't keep up with the market development

[sullen tide]

Looks like market is going to get a lot of 4” 960x720 devices

[solemn pumice]

And none of them will be from XU

At this point I need to see them actually release something

[jolly kettle]

How are y'all gonna profit from it?

[crisp plank]

So doubly cancelled now? I can't keep up 😞

[glad oriole]

Our boss said in a meeting that business wars require unconditional sacrifice in order to have a chance of winning.

XU30H40 is the same as the Dream 2 in appearance, but it is upgraded with a powerful A78 to run the full PS2. The dream price device will soon be available.

[solemn pumice]

So this appearance?

[bronze yew]

man, we really need a clarification of what is actually going to release

[solemn pumice]

Nah that makes too much sense

Baby pocket ace is gone though

That’s for sure

[bronze yew]

I refuse, give me my Baby Pocket ACE

[frigid condor]

That might be confusing for customers

[bronze yew]

I'm starting to dislike MagicX/XU Retro for the fact alone that they announce cool stuff, make us vote on shit and then just cancel it

[sullen tide]

LUNA the only way to beat the competition is to get to a 3:2 4.5” 1620x1080 screen device

[bronze yew]

I would have been totally fine with their 3:2 4.4" 1080x720 panel

[sullen tide]

This too

[glad oriole]

XURetro's current positioning is:
Super affordable prices
Excellent quality
Extreme popularity

[frigid condor]

You should start reaching out to more social media platforms for the third one

[bronze yew]

positioning is absolutely pointless if you don't release the stuff you announce, give me my XU40 H44, god damn it

[glad oriole]

If you are looking for personalization and ultra-high configuration, XURetro's equipment may not be suitable for you. MagicX or other brands may be more suitable.

[solemn pumice]

Tell him luna

[glad oriole]

MagicX has these screens, 4.4-inch 720P 1080P they have, you can ask Sean for a plan, but the current retro handheld market environment is so bad, they may not be willing to mass-produce niche devices

[bronze yew]

Calling a 3:2 screen niche... somehow

There are plenty of 4:3 devices competing on the market and we always get excited about a new 3:2 because they are rather rare these days, yet you rather do a 960×720 instead of 1080×720 device

[glad oriole]

3:2 equipment is not suitable for the role of destroyer

I believe MagicX will plan a 3:2 device, but it won't be priced at cost.

[storm warren]

Do you think having a Linux OS option would help you reach a bigger market?

[pine current]

Whichever device will attract a hot chinese girlfriend, that's the one I want. Keep us informed. lol

but seriously I too am confused...a g85 device, and then a better soc device but same form factor, or is dream separate? I agree with everyone else on wanting some clarification on what's actually coming? is anything dropping in october still?

[glad oriole]

I know that many players like Linux, but now Soc is updated very quickly and Android emulators are getting better and better.

[glad oriole]

Dream 1 is G85
Dream 2 is D7XXX (original appearance XU30H40)

The price of Dream is harmful to any device

[rare junco]

So basically all of the previously announced XUxx devices are gone?

[glad oriole]

Except for XU20, all other devices were cancelled, which caused heavy losses to both us and MagicX. The market competition was fierce and entered the elimination stage.

[frigid condor]

I am so confused

[glad oriole]

The molds, software, and materials are all ready, but now they can only wait in the warehouse for ten thousand years.

When you see the Dream 1 poster later, you will understand why we have such a change of plan.

[jolly kettle]

👀

[storm warren]

While we wait, any chance we could get access to the XU20 panel driver? 🙏

xu20_android_dump % strings u-boot.bin | grep RTP                                                   
----------RTP40WV101B:lcd panel init
----------RTP32HD016A:lcd panel init
RTP40WV101B
RTP32HD016A
RTP36HD029A

[frigid condor]

MagicX covers the technical aspects of the XU20 so you should probably ask @humble eagle or @tender reef

[jolly kettle]

$60ish for a g85 will be crazy as shit

[storm warren]

I pinged him over on the magicx discord, lets see

[frigid condor]

[pine current]

Sucks you guys both had to eat some losses, but probably a smart move, given the upheaval the market is currently going through. Look forward to seeing whatever it is. From you guys and magicx both.

[frigid condor]

you forgot to give his cat belly rubs

[burnt current]

MagicX Dream is a much better name than XU30 lol

Or wait

XU Retro

[jolly kettle]

XU Dream One..

Looking forward to seeing renders and everything

[burnt current]

I feel like visually it'd be the same as what we've already seen?

[bronze yew]

I don't need it to be priced at cost, I just need the XU40 H44 to exist

[bronze yew]

What a waste, just release it, they don't have to destroy the market

[burnt current]

Oh nvm they're throwing it all out

What the hell man

[jolly kettle]

The dream two will reuse the XU30 H40's design

[burnt current]

What the hell is the Dream 1, then?

[rare junco]

I just hope they won't be taking their time too much just to have others beat them to whatever they're doing and end up scrapping their plans yet again.

[burnt current]

God forbid

Still a good chance of it not happening though

[zealous jolt]

Magicx and XU Retro are starting to remind me of that one coke head uncle that comes up with a new business venture every other week, yet doesn’t actually follow through on any of them

[rare junco]

It's a good thing that they have at least released something.

[burnt current]

True

XU20 basically released on schedule, ignoring the shoulder button issue

[dreamy lark]

dont cancel the one flip, theres almost no clam devices, specially with the size it seems to have according the "testing" videos

[glad oriole]

According to MagicX insiders, the sales volume of One35 pre-sale and two weeks after its launch will determine whether the One flip phone will be mass-produced.

[burnt current]

What

One35 hasn't gone on presale

Are you saying if the sales are very good?

[solemn pumice]

Yeah I’m confused

[rare junco]

One flip...phone?

I guess that's a translation error 😂

[glad oriole]

MagicX will decide whether to produce the One flip phone based on the sales of One35.

[plucky halo]

https://tenor.com/view/dream-big-cyrus-lift-follow-your-heart-follow-your-dreams-gif-3035756566151705474

[glad oriole]

The device that makes retro handheld game enthusiasts around the world crazy, Dream

I hope everyone can help forward this to the major communities, channels, and YouTube posts about retro handhelds. Thank you.

[sudden narwhal]

That bezel looks amazing 👌

[glad oriole]

4-inch 4:3 pocket design

[zealous jolt]

Inline triggers and no ergo humps (I’m guessing)???? I’m in love 😍

[solemn pumice]

No transparent colors? 😭

[glad oriole]

Retro + simple knot + pocket = Dream 1 design style

[zealous jolt]

Give me preorder link now

[storm warren]

RGB30 vibes but good (and wider)?

[bronze yew]

Okay fine, I will admit that this is amazing value

[sudden narwhal]

Beautiful! Would be nice if there's retro color similar to aya's Retro Power or maybe Snes color tone 💯

[bronze yew]

Now do the same damn device with the 3:2 screen

[plucky halo]

It's the promised rgb10max4

[solemn pumice]

Transparent please :3

[jolly kettle]

$66 WHAT THE FUCK

[glad oriole]

Dream 1 can reach the popularity of r36, and the transparent shell has at least 10 colors

[jolly kettle]

Finally a price that actually suits less than 4gb ram

[bronze yew]

Well, 3/32 is kinda whack still, but at least it ain't 2gb RAM as the AYA

[solemn pumice]

Can you explain the second part?
Might be a translation error

[plucky halo]

He meant they can release it in many colors

[glad oriole]

Pre-sale starts in late October

[plucky halo]

Like

[burnt current]

Hot damn

I love this

[solemn pumice]

Thanks, I’ll might just grab the black one.
And gift it to a friend when they do transparent.

[bronze yew]

Tho arguably the Air Mini has the better screen and SoC, even if the final price is basically $100 compared to $76 with the Dream 1

[jolly kettle]

The dream 1 will kill practically every handheld at its price point

RK3566 is dead

[burnt current]

Looking at the Dream, I'm noticing that the design is very similar to One35

[jolly kettle]

Long live RK3566

[bronze yew]

Yeah, budget market is done for with this

I want to see the Dream 2 now

[solemn pumice]

I am officially a dreamer

[plucky halo]

Rgb30 killer

Thick candy bar

[solemn pumice]

Hero Legend Game Ally Killer

[glad oriole]

Dream 1: The colors will continue to increase

[solemn pumice]

Thanks Luna

[bronze yew]

I'm good with a clean (transparent) black for this

[plucky halo]

https://tenor.com/view/ifunny-trump-watermark-ifunny-watermark-i-funny-gif-2127246376315082046

[burnt current]

Ergo bumps are nice, but this being as flat as it is means it's probably just about pocketable

[bronze yew]

The teal render is awesome tho

[burnt current]

RGB30 is like the max size of what you can pocket, and this will be close enough to that

[solemn pumice]

Honestly, this might have turned out for the better.
Ended up with actually promising device and also a better naming scheme.
XU Dream One sounds way better than XU30 H40

[burnt current]

Just a different aspect ratio screen

[glad oriole]

I hope everyone can share it and let more people know about Dream 1

[burnt current]

To be honest, I think the name would be better if it dropped the One part entirely

Just XU Dream

[solemn pumice]

Oh I will

[plucky halo]

But there's another dream so they can't

[solemn pumice]

They totally can.

But they shouldn’t

[burnt current]

What's the other Dream handheld?

[jolly kettle]

Dream 2

[solemn pumice]

XU Dream by itself sounds too corny

[jolly kettle]

Mediatek D7xxx

A78

[burnt current]

Some of y'all afraid to be corny but I was born on the cob

[jolly kettle]

Wonder if it'll be 6nm (D7030, 7050) or 4nm (D7300)

[solemn pumice]

There’s a good chance they don’t know themselves yet.
And that they’ll change it according to the market.
Looks like XU is quite flexible in that regard

[zealous jolt]

Little size comparison

[glad oriole]

Next Dream device released in early 2026

[burnt current]

Did Luna give the dimensions or is this just an approximation

[glad oriole]

On the poster

[burnt current]

D'oh

I wonder if Cobalt finds the RAM acceptable

[solemn pumice]

I mean

[rare junco]

Oh yeah this is definitely a jab at ayaneo. Not complaining 😂

[plucky halo]

Dream 1 Pro or Plus with 4GB Ram @ $75

https://tenor.com/view/we-got-a-deal-or-not-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-deal-or-no-deal-are-we-agreeing-to-this-or-not-tim-robinson-gif-8584884808718164135

[vagrant iris]

They should call it Dream Big

[plucky halo]

Dream On and Dream Too

[vagrant iris]

😄

[dire ivy]

you guys better make that G85. it's easy money

[glad oriole]

The One35 on MagicX comes with 4GB RAM and 64GB storage. They will announce the price next Monday, and I'm guessing it will be around $80.

[clever verge]

@glad oriole is there a Possibility of getting a 4gb model as an option? For extra money? Or is that a cost that will drive up overall prices?

[solemn pumice]

Summary from my understanding :

XU nuked their whole line up to adjust to the market.

And now they’ll start fresh with the Dream 1 and Dream 2.

Dream 1 :
G85
4“ 960x720 Screen
Flat Candybar Design
Releases in November

Dream 2:
D7XXX (something in the D900-1100 Range, power-wise)
Is supposed to look similar to the XU30H40 that was discontinued)

Now we wait, Gentlemen

[clever verge]

And ladies

How ever many of them are here lol

https://tenor.com/view/sausage-party-dance-gif-5212802

[plucky halo]

From what he said they probably wont do 4gb because the one35 is the device for that

[clever verge]

4", 4:3, 720p tho 😭

[solemn pumice]

3GB will be fine

I feel like they cut the perfect corners

[earnest mountain]

I’m not entirely sure what the extra gig would actually get you in terms of features/performance

It’s nice to have just in case I guess

[rare junco]

So if the One35 does well we get a One flip phone, and if the Dream 1 does well we get more shell colors

[solemn pumice]

That’s right

[bronze yew]

This basically is an RP2S with a better screen, so the extra RAM would be nice to have, but at the price this is at, 3/32 is fine

[solemn pumice]

Treat this as a RG40XX-H Pro

[bronze yew]

Air Mini kinda is a different ballpark IMO, will play the same systems obviously, but has more juice for shaders and a better panel

Not that the 720p one isn't great at this price point

[dry sierra]

XU casually dropping the best pocketable retro emulation machine

I originally wanted the rgb50 but I'll take this as an alternative

bezels look incredible

will it have linux support?

[jolly kettle]

They'll be making almost zero profit off it I think

[glad oriole]

There is no difference between 3GB and 4GB running in the simulator

[dry sierra]

is the g85 seems to be nearly identical to the chip found the the retroid pocket 3 plus

should be a great machine for psp and below machine especially with the perfect scaling

[jolly kettle]

I'd love for renders and a spec sheet for the Dream 2

So I can get to making a graphic hah

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/NyQt35Eb9h

Mixed reactions

[radiant lantern]

The way it's phrased does come off a bit like an advertisement

[dry sierra]

why mixed?

[rare junco]

Because reddit

[jolly kettle]

That is true

[dry sierra]

"Perfect for N64"
- Doesn't have 6 front buttons like the MagicX Retro 45

"Perfect for Dreamcast"
- Doesn't have analog triggers

"Perfect for PSP"
- Doesn't have a 16:9 screen

Hmmmmm...

Marketing bollocks appart, if the G85 is capable and optimized enough, the screen is good, and the software is nice, a device like this for 66$ can be amazing

what is wrong with people?

[solemn pumice]

Screenshotting luna also wasn’t a smart move

[dire ivy]

sounds like it got picked apart

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1ngrsjh/sugarcube_n97_gameplay/?

sugar cube n97 looks "decent"

[dry sierra]

I kinda hate it but it still looks impressive from an engineering standpoint

[dire ivy]

yeah it's weird and small and made for dpad-only or analog-only gaming

[dry sierra]

uhm, actually the psp isn't 16:9 but 15.9:9 🤓 👆

[glad oriole]

The Dream 1 plan will not change and cannot be changed anymore. It has reached the manufacturing cost price.

[dire ivy]

coolness

[solemn pumice]

So you can’t turn Dream 1 into a wheel anymore?

[glad oriole]

If Dream 1 can sell 100,000 units, the company will reward me with 200,000 RMB

[bronze yew]

so you are telling us we pay 2rmb directly to you with every unit we purchase

I want my 0,24€ back