2025 XU Product Slate

[glad oriole]

Performance is significantly better than competitors

[radiant lantern]

Xu30 v36 my beloved

[jolly kettle]

T618 on roids

[fiery panther]

I don't understand numbers

I just buy if the shells and OSs are cool

[dry sierra]

Is this thread the same as MagicX? But for XU?

[fiery panther]

Seems so

[jolly kettle]

Nice to see a higher clocked GPU too

Should be able to run some harder PSP at 3x

[jolly kettle]

What will the price point be?

For a better comparison to the Air X

[woven shell]

This is fantastic news. I'm interested to see what the price point for the XU35 is going to look like.

[fiery panther]

Imagine if XU makes something that makes you not want to pick the Tone35

[frigid condor]

like a tone35 with more than 7998 units

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[fiery panther]

I kinda just want to get it because it's limited edition

But each console I get reduces the utility of it

[ivory meteor]

Mmm?

I mean, they have the screen and an even better chip, they just need to clone that awesome Miyoo dpad

[woven shell]

is the v32 dpad new?

have they used it on any handhelds before?

wondering if its decent or not

obviously the xu10 dpad is buns

[bronze yew]

@humble eagle does that mean the MagicX One-Series will also upgrade from the P65 to the G85?

[fiery panther]

Great

10 more months of waiting

[bronze yew]

for a relatively insignificant performance gain

[rare junco]

A One35 without the gimmick would be really great tbh

[rare junco]

Are they still doing the engraved serial numbers thing?

[solemn pumice]

wdym that’s a huge upgrade

[fiery panther]

Seems so

[woven shell]

retro handheld buyers figuring out that moore's law died 10 years ago

[bronze yew]

yeah the P65 certainly would have lost out against the MagmiX or whatever it was called, but MTK is aware that the SD will have better driver compatibility and they would have to give MagicX/XU the G99 to compensate for that, right?

that's what an upgrade would look like

considering at what prices Antec sells the Ayaneo Pocket Micro they probably could do it without their devices getting more than $5 more expensive

after all there are no metal and glass shenanigans involved here

[livid herald]

True

I'm curious abouit the G85-powered stuff due to the possibility of a postmarketOS or Ubuntu Touch/UBPorts port

(Though at this point, the goal may not be PortMaster, but something more ambitious?)

[frigid condor]

it's a new dpad design, only magicx can feel it right now

[woven shell]

they'll need to send me one so i can test 🤔

[frigid condor]

if only you were a cat

[languid dagger]

The XU40 sounds interesting

[burnt current]

It's supposed to be an improved version of the XU10 D-pad

Albeit with a cross design instead of a split

I'll miss the split design, but people hating it on principle is probably why the XU10 didn't perform well despite being a really good R36S clone

[jolly kettle]

What will the RAM/ROM configurations for these devices be

XU20 is 2GB + no internal storage

[spark cradle]

cross is just tried and tested

[jolly kettle]

XU35 I imagine will be 4+64

XU40 should ideally be 8+128 like other devices in its bracket

[bronze yew]

honestly 6+128 would still be fine if they can keep it cheap, only thing that would really affect would be Android gaming

but that really depends on how far they could theoretically undercut the competition, otherwise they should certainly aim for spec parity

[solemn pumice]

Based off this I’m gonna update the roadmap

To sum it up :

XU40 H55 :
MTK D7050
5,5“ 1920x1080
Planned for 2026

XU40 H45:

MTK D7050
4,5“ 1620x1080 ( not confirmed )
Planned for 2026

XU35 H50:
MTK G85
5,0“ 1280x720
Planned for October

XU35 H40:
MTK G85
4,0“ 960x720
Planned for December

XU30 V36 + XU30 H35:
Allwinner A73 CPU
Planned for 2026

H50 has been planned for October and H40 is planned for 45 days later, so December sounds feasible

[left niche]

december of which year?

|| one35 and zero40 were originally planned for september ||

[solemn pumice]

That’s why I changed „releasing in“ to „planned for“

I also, have played these game before

[bronze yew]

you forgot the

XU35 H40_CUBE
MTK G85
4" 720x720

XU35 H35
MTK G85
3.5" 960x640

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/zeng-this-guy-right-here-this-right-here-point-out-point-gif-23913867

You‘re manifesting a little bit too much

[bronze yew]

I won't shut up until I get these devices, the renders are ready, just make them

[solemn pumice]

Maybe I‘ll add the XU30 V36 though

[fossil stag]

You rn

[solemn pumice]

At least you’re not asking for 6 buttons or weird wood grain look

[fossil stag]

Nah bring on the XU35 Power Glove edition

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fish-looking-phone-disappointment-gif-23326574

[fiery panther]

I'll care about all this when I see them at the store and with a review

[left niche]

https://tenor.com/view/i-feel-personally-targeted-attacked-wow-big-mouth-netflix-gif-15432996

[glad oriole]

XU35 H40 real size comparison

Modified joystick rendering will be out soon

[vagrant iris]

This will sell well

Looks awesome, everything you would want for a systems it will be able to handle😍

[livid herald]

Heh, lot smaller than I expected

[dry sierra]

that's the one with the 960x720 screen?

[burnt current]

I believe so

What are the dimensions of the XU35 H40?

[bronze yew]

probably close to the rg405m

[livid herald]

So, erm, I learned that apparently, there IS a D7050 device (Volla Phone Quintus) that can ship with Ubuntu Touch. The fact that XU chose MTK chipsets that Volla got Ubuntu Touch on does make me wonder... could Linux come to the MTK XU devices?

[bronze yew]

they initially had the goal to support Linux CFW for all their devices

[livid herald]

Maybe that and the Allwinners they wanted having very slow progress on Linux could be some factors on the MTK flip

[jolly kettle]

The RH article is saying the xu40 will only have 4gb ram grrrrr

[clever verge]

Do you need more than 4gb ram?

GC used to Run on T610 on Rp2s, same for Ps2. So I'm genuinely curious what requires more than 4?

[jolly kettle]

Android gaming

[clever verge]

Aaaaah, gotcha. So not the Emulators but the Ports

I think Hollow Knight, AMR2, & all the Early ports should be fine. It's the Newer Ports that require the extra Ram and proper Android Games from the Store

[bronze yew]

the XU40 should really have 6gb RAM at least

[fossil stag]

I don't think there's a device out there with the D7050 and with 4 gigs of ram
All the devices have at minimum 6
It would be hard to believe that mediatek also offers soc pricing with 4 gigs but nobody used it yet

[glad oriole]

XU35 Hall effect joystick updated rendering

[livid herald]

...yeah, the D7050 Volla Phone has twice the RAM!

[zealous jolt]

Bit hard to tell from the render, but these are the same modules magicx uses right?

The ginfull ones

[glad oriole]

It is the Hall effect joystick of MagicX

[zealous jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-whoo-hoo-yes-yay-gif-9848298218460771056

[solemn pumice]

Full render?

[glad oriole]

Thank you for your factual report

[fiery panther]

AQUAMARINE

Okay you're slowly selling me this

Man I don't want to buy more consoles after the Tone35...

But it is kinda getting outclassed

Hmmmm

Question

How are they compared in performance? (Based on the chip info)

I don't understand any of the numbers or anything that it's posted here

[zealous jolt]

Isn’t the xu35 going to be using the g85? Same as the one35?

[fiery panther]

So it's a matter of just shell and buttons

What aspect ratio is the Xu35

[zealous jolt]

I believe so, so if you want that second dpad definitely go for the one35

Idk

[fiery panther]

If it is 16:9 or 3:2 I think... I'm sold

[zealous jolt]

Looks like there’s 2 xu35s?

[earnest mountain]

xu35 is supposed to 4:3 i think

[zealous jolt]

#1392860755849646151 message

The h50 and h40

[earnest mountain]

wait, lemme double check that

[zealous jolt]

H40 seems to be 4:3

[fiery panther]

This chipset doesn't reach PS2 fully right

[earnest mountain]

yup

Looks like 4:3 and 16:9

nope

[fiery panther]

Hmmm

[earnest mountain]

Should be slightly above or practically the same as RP3+ in performance

[zealous jolt]

This naming scheme kinda sucks tbh

lol

[fiery panther]

Which one is the teal

First of all

XD

But oh well, if PS2 is not full speed, Tone35 does make a little more sense

[zealous jolt]

Wait so the xu35 h40 is only going to have the p65, not the g85?

[earnest mountain]

it'll have g85

[fiery panther]

I'm confused as you

[zealous jolt]

Ah that guys message I linked says p65

Hopefully it’s the g85

[earnest mountain]

The latest pin says it has g85

It's all just different form factors

And i guess the 2nd dpad vs 2nd analog stick

[fiery panther]

I guess I'll buy whatever comes first...

[zealous jolt]

Hopefully the one35 comes first

It’s been so long since the original release date lol

[fiery panther]

They had to do it from 0 apparently

With the new chip

[zealous jolt]

And the most recent timeline was

[earnest mountain]

it would be crazy if the xu35s come out first
the tone35 has had actual device testing for a while now

I'm guessing the delays are from trying to iron out the TATE mode stuff in their software, but that's just my uninformed opinion

[fiery panther]

Wish all this info was better organized tbh

Wait

And I just noticed something

This console is just the discarded Tone35 with dual joysticks

And Tron style colors

But

The shoulder buttons are in a better position

Maybe even better than on the Tone35

Hmmm

[frigid condor]

These renders are really beautiful, please make these colors

[bronze yew]

no, black will be the only color option

I dig the teal one tho

[frigid condor]

I will scratch you if you change the world order to do that

[bronze yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cat-cucumber-scared-gif-10226870

[sinful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-lift-off-cole-davis-fly-me-to-the-moon-here-we-go-lift-off-confirmed-gif-10284188292436584657

[solemn pumice]

what are we doing

why is the vertical the only XU40 with the stick on top

[frigid condor]

[solemn pumice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1ms5rad/xu40_help_us_choose_a_screen_size/
https://forms.gle/JGF6ro12TEoiJp3w7

if anyone wants to vote, or voice their opinion

[solemn pumice]

you're just a messenger bobby, or else I'd get the guard dogs to chase you

[frigid condor]

I’m not just a messenger

I’m a cat

and cats explode

[fiery panther]

vomits in your meal

[bronze yew]

cuz that design is insane and stupid, also 3:2 reigns supreme

and honestly with the D7050 the use for a stick on top would be limited

[solemn pumice]

I need to know res

I heard 1620x1080 is in an awkward spot

[bronze yew]

I'm honestly wondering if it's just the KTR1 screen or really some other 4.4" panel that may have a better scaling resolution

regardless of that, fuck another 16:9 device

[solemn pumice]

KT-R1 is 4,5“

[frigid condor]

They could be measuring the screens themselves and rounding down

[solemn pumice]

Unless it 4,49“ which leads to some people calling it 4,4“ and some 4,5“

As it is with the 3,95“ 1:1 screen which some people call 4“

[bronze yew]

which is why I haven't ruled it out yet, if it would be 4.3" or something we would be sure that's a different panel

[tawny swan]

hmm interesting (gpu btw very slow)

even with poor driver support

[frigid condor]

It is not being used anymore

[frigid condor]

[tawny swan]

❓

[earnest mountain]

They changed it to a Dimensity 7050

[tawny swan]

huh

[dry sierra]

Easy 3:2

[tawny swan]

that crazy upgrade, where info>?

[sinful mortar]

XU/MagicX hardware specs dont exist till the devices are ready to sell

they change spec so fucking often its hard to even keep track

[tawny swan]

yeah ... anoying

[radiant lantern]

They are properly offset though, I think it could still work

[solemn pumice]

And They’ll use a new a73 core Allwinner chip that releases in 2026 for their XU30 line

[earnest mountain]

#1392860755849646151 message

[tawny swan]

bruh

[solemn pumice]

They could have been properly offset on the horizontal handhelds

[radiant lantern]

Looks like they kind of tried on the 3:2

[solemn pumice]

#1392860755849646151 message

I summed up all the latest specs here

[earnest mountain]

Might need to edit that message to update both XU35s with the G85

[solemn pumice]

If it would be like on a Odin2Mini , it would be perfect

Stick on top, but dpad still usable if you adjust your grip

[solemn pumice]

Oh right, don’t know how I missed that

[frigid condor]

um actually

the one 35 is a d9400 now

[sinful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/mistwol-cat-his-greed-will-consume-him-eating-silly-gif-14271929065765266047

and still no active cooling

[solemn pumice]

in a world where the D7050 is stronger than the D1100, maybe

not in this reality though, catman

[tawny swan]

7050 is massive upgrade for real

30% +- less than 865 in cpu power (but ofc poor gpu driver support and much weaker gpu power)

almost the same (should be higher with cooling) good ps2 lvl

[solemn pumice]

rip battery life

[tawny swan]

it decent

[solemn pumice]

it's the same chip as the d900 but overclocked

so same effiency

more performance will cost you more watt

[tawny swan]

4 watts both

[solemn pumice]

of course it's the same chip

7050 can draw more watt though if u push it

[tawny swan]

u mean unlock TDP?

with root

[solemn pumice]

nah it should be higher clocked from the factory

[tawny swan]

it does, but have the same 4w limit

[sinful mortar]

its the same chip that draws the same power at IDLE
when boosting it will use more

[solemn pumice]

exactly

they dont have the same limit

only the same base clock

[tawny swan]

huh

proofs?

[sinful mortar]

see the laws of thermodynamics and how they relate to cpu power usage

[tawny swan]

ofc

4w idle

8 elite has Idle arround 4btw (with spikes ofc)

[solemn pumice]

i think this chart is misleading

[tawny swan]

they has BOTH 4W at max.

with any scenario

until u unlock tdp

[sinful mortar]

yeah cant find mediatek spec sheets so its a moot point everyones just guessing

[solemn pumice]

4w only holds true if the 7050 also runs at 2x2.4ghz with the cortex a78

[tawny swan]

no

it doesnt work like that ...

[solemn pumice]

your own source onctradicts itself

[tawny swan]

?

[sinful mortar]

It does if MTK sets the TDP PL1 limit higher but I cant find any docu from them other than these random 3d party sites with no sources

[solemn pumice]

same chip, same effiency

[tawny swan]

yes, but they not

[sinful mortar]

One of which claims the D900 is a 10w chip

[solemn pumice]

the d7050 cant be more efficient with a higher clock speed

[tawny swan]

if u unlock both socs, ofc 7050 will eat more due to higher freqs

but not by defoult

[sinful mortar]

also D7050 phone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrUubXLuTM

hitting near 5w power draw

[tawny swan]

hmm, interesting

[sinful mortar]

*6.5w

[tawny swan]

custom vendor limits maybe

[sinful mortar]

its probably just not throttling due to heat limit/cooling solution

hard to tell heat from video because all they're showing it battery temp for whatever reason

[tawny swan]

bruh i cant find any valid test with 900 and scene -_-

[solemn pumice]

I just realized how bad most sources to find out more about power draw and effiency

[tawny swan]

nvm

[solemn pumice]

only thing i found

[tawny swan]

that the worst site

[sinful mortar]

Its because SD & MTK dont put out proper spec sheets
If I could just look at technical documents you could just see what they set the thermal/power limits at for the SoC (before vendors dick around with more agressive battery saver stuff)

[solemn pumice]

that's what I meant

this feels like they just copied nano review

[tawny swan]

we should force somone with Pocket 4 to run bunch of stuff and compare

[solemn pumice]

no one bought that handheld

[tawny swan]

yeah sadly ...

[solemn pumice]

you are more likely to find odin lite buyers

[sinful mortar]

wasnt the 3+ also D900 tho

or was it a unisoc

[solemn pumice]

T618

and rp3 was t310

[sinful mortar]

yikes.jpg really lmao

[tawny swan]

rip

[sinful mortar]

I realize why people were the big mad when the plus came out

[tawny swan]

we have reached an impasse

alr i have idea -_- brb

[sinful mortar]

nah im out not even sure what we're really still doing here

[tawny swan]

Dimencity900

@sinful mortar

[solemn pumice]

theoretically speaking there is nothing indicating why the 7050 should be more efficent.

same manufacturer, same architecture, same gpu not even any hints of some sort extra cache allowing the cpu to store data locally. there's no indicator which would make run more efficient than the d900 at the same clockspeeds

biggest difference isnt even the clock speeds but the inclusion of a newer npu

this whole thing isnt even that important

i feel like i just wasted 20 minutes of my life

[clever verge]

Seems the d1100 & d900 were just 2 amazing chips and that was why Retroid used them

It wasn't until the d8300 you saw real performance gains

[tawny swan]

yes, but dumb price-management just killed base variant

[clever verge]

I'm definitely not arguing that

[tawny swan]

this why +- noone buy RP4, just not worth

[clever verge]

The ayn Odin lite was a d900 as well

[solemn pumice]

there was theories about them using left over d900s from ayn

[tawny swan]

isnt it was first?

[solemn pumice]

in that sense if could have made sense to clear moorechips inventory

[clever verge]

Further boasting the "they are sister companies theory" while both of them tell us differently

[tawny swan]

flip 2 btw the same story

1100 variant useless with that small economy over Kona (which can be overclocked to like 30% and beat 888 even with less consumption and temps)

[solemn pumice]

that's like within retroid itself though

no weird retroid ayn conspiracies involved

as in, them clearing leftover d1100s is a sure thing

[frigid condor]

Retroid owned the patent for the Odin for a time, they’re obviously related

[clever verge]

Unless you ask them directly

[solemn pumice]

But Chris, said no

[frigid condor]

what does Chris know?

He’s not a cat

[rare junco]

If Chris says no then no. It's clearly stated in the rules of the Retroid server.

Just kidding. It's not stated in the rules. Just engraved into the soul of every retroid fanboy.

[sharp cloud]

If it's produced significantly later (compared to earlier/initial products on the same node), there is a chance of better yield due to improved process maturity, so higher availability of quality chips that can clock higher and/or use lesser power for the same performance from this node.

That in addition to the fact that the newest/higher end stuff have already moved on to more advanced nodes, so these lower end/more budget chips have higher chance of getting better binned chips as well, instead of taking the "leftovers"

Not saying this is definitely the case here of course.

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-what-confused-mock-gif-12065879997169681173

[fiery panther]

XU20 release is very close

[fiery panther]

I expect to get it near my birthday

[fossil stag]

Just in time to maybe get an announcement of a possible release date for the tone35

[fiery panther]

I expect that end of September

That thing got almost a full year of development

[glad oriole]

The XU40 H44, voted the most popular device, will be the first device in the XU40 series to be released.

CPU D7050
4.4-inch screen 1080x720
Expected release date November 2025

[fiery panther]

Looks like a Retroid or it's just me

[remote swallow]

It looks like the Pocket Ace.

[lyric totem]

The candy bar design is a very popular and common design.

[fossil stag]

That light green if they actually will make that color

[lyric totem]

I'm kind sad the smallest screen size won

[fossil stag]

Yeah but it will be pocketable now

[lyric totem]

Anything over 4 inches isn't poketable in my opinion.

[zealous jolt]

We did it boys, mission accomplished 🫡

New retroid pocket 2s

[fossil stag]

That extra 0.4 inches didn't hurt anybody 😉

[tawny swan]

shock ... why 4.4 ppls vote 🙁

[zealous jolt]

Cuz 3:2 is the goat

[tawny swan]

5.5 is everything

[dry sierra]

looks like the pocket ace on a budget

kinda a weird screen to choose, ktr1 screen seems like a better choice

but I guess it should suffice

[frigid condor]

It was the most popular choice by a long shot

The people will get what they voted for, true democracy here

[dry sierra]

guess people really want that gameboy integerscaling

[sharp cloud]

Are the other 2 choices scrapped or just later launch?

[dry sierra]

what were the other options?

[lyric totem]

Not always true. Alot of polls will be bias because its on Reddit and people who have no intention of actually buying the product. Maybe they voted for 3:2 because its rare.

No consequences for them.

[frigid condor]

It was a multiple choice poll, you pick what you want, there’s no top choice pick only

If I can figure out how to get ranked choice, I’ll prefer it, but multiple choice poll for now

[dry sierra]

My main question is, why 720p on a relatively larger screen? 1080p would give you the ideal ppi. Is it perhaps much cheaper to get this new screen than the ktr1 one?

[lyric totem]

Oh I'm not argueing about the poll. I'm just saying the voters don't always vote with intention of buying. You see that alot of video games. They say they want something but once it comes out, they have no intention of buying

[zealous jolt]

I don’t even think that screen integer scales gba perfectly…

[frigid condor]

I have to wonder where MagicX and XU are getting these screens

[zealous jolt]

I voted for it cuz I love 3:2

[dry sierra]

960x720 is really good at integerscaling. 1080x720? Not really. So you may aswell go with a higher ppi screen option.

[remote swallow]

It never did, the integer scaling for GBA in terms of resolution is 240x160, 480x320, 720x480, 960x640, 1200x800, 1440x960, 1680x1120, and so on.

[sharp cloud]

I thought the stuff that integer scale on 960x720 will just do the same here, with black bars

[left niche]

🐸 colour

[dry sierra]

you can also integerscale with horizontal pixels like 240, 480, 720, 960 etc.

[remote swallow]

Yup, the “960 horizontal pixels” being the reason why GBA integer scales with 960x720.

Doesn’t integer scale from top to bottom, but left to right.

[jolly kettle]

1080x720 huh

[languid dagger]

Do we know the price?🙏

[tawny swan]

site?

[zealous jolt]

https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/

[bronze yew]

which is awesome, so I'm hyped

[solemn pumice]

Ain’t no way, it’s exactly what you wanted

I think this needs to cook until Q1 of 2026

[bronze yew]

1080x720 is indeed an interesting resolution, but honestly it ain't too bad either, like it's basically on par with the 4:3 960x720 we have in Anbernics rg406 devices, just with extra pixels to display bigger 3:2 content... and the scaling on the KTR1/ACE screen is honestly not very good with anything, it's just enough PPI to not bother

[bronze yew]

they said November, so I want it by November

[solemn pumice]

Oh shoot you’re right

So they’ll do the XU40 series parallel to the XU35 series

[bronze yew]

also if the color choices ain't resemble the GBA I will riot, I want black, indigo and silver at the very least

[solemn pumice]

I want the XU35H40 colors, especially the blue

[solemn pumice]

Absolute cinema, looking forward to the color reveal

[jolly kettle]

Also how much RAM/ROM will this have again? The RH article is saying 4/128 but I can't find confirmation

[bronze yew]

I honestly hope they do at least 6/128, 4gb RAM in 2025 (potentially 2026) is just dinky and limits a device too much, 4/128 would be fine on the XU35 line tho

no real need for 8gb if we are really honest here, but like if they can do it within a $5 price difference then by all means, but otherwise 6gb RAM is enough for what this can reasonably do and will be used for

[jolly kettle]

Yea

[solemn pumice]

Don’t worry that spec combo was meant for the Allwinner A733 variant which was announced 40 days ago.

[jolly kettle]

Okok

Now if they make this at $120

It will be a real market disruptor

Along with the XU35 being sub-$100

[solemn pumice]

Now if gamma picks this up

[jolly kettle]

Yes

[sinful mortar]

Who wants to guess the next chip it will use

[bronze yew]

honestly if this hits at $120-130 this will be a game changer

[solemn pumice]

D1080

[bronze yew]

that's basically the same SoC

D1200 just to fuck with us

but nah, honestly D7050 will do good enough

I'm really happy about how this is turning out right now, if only they will release it by November

[solemn pumice]

It’s what Sean had initially planned for touch-two series I think

Before saying D8300 is more likely

D1080 really is just an older D7050

[frigid condor]

I think two series was previously like D920 or something like it

They kept changing the two series soc constantly

[solemn pumice]

Well you know what, I won’t care about chips from now on

I won’t to see an ETA, price and a retail unit first before I believe it

[frigid condor]

that’s kind of what you were supposed to do the entire time

nothing will stay the same until they have built an actual prototype

[tawny swan]

good for ps2 just :/

[bronze yew]

I mean... the t820 does about 2/3 of the PS2 library just fine and this is a lil more powerful, so it would be reasonable to assume that 70% of the games will run at native or a light upscale, it's good enough honestly

[tawny swan]

all depend in price

[solemn pumice]

You probably need to tweak some settings, even for that 70%

[tawny swan]

if 120$, it will be hype

[solemn pumice]

Won’t be plug&play

But I also don’t know if there’s been minimal improvements to nether

[sharp cloud]

Aethersx2 use more than dual core (the developer recommend 4 large core), so might not have an adv over the t820 for cpu bound games at least.
At least t820 was performing better than d900 for some stuff.

[solemn pumice]

That price would make me salivate

I’d jump on that asap

[bronze yew]

you always need to tweak a bit if the device ain't straight up brute forcing stuff, we also say that the RP4pro runs most GCN/PS2 games, that ain't means that you won't have to change some settings like on more powerful devices (Odin 2, rg477m, Ayaneo stuff) which just take a shit on those systems

[solemn pumice]

Sounds about right

[tawny swan]

Aether dead, i hope new PCSX2 will improve compatibility

and we will able to run full ps2 library on t820 (Dimencity900 already can almost)

and most of stuff at t618 1x

[bronze yew]

I mean yeah, technically the t820 probably could run most PS2 games, but the emulator sucks ass

the motivation behind emulating Nintendo systems is just way bigger at the end of the day and Dolphin is a marvel to be honest

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[clever verge]

I didn't even know he Responded to me, I have him blocked

Same for when....Jigg do you have me blocked?

[frigid condor]

he doesn't respect democracy

[solemn pumice]

huh

[frigid condor]

long live the democratic company

[solemn pumice]

I never blocked a single person in my life

[placid cosmos]

u can check for blocks by reacting, you cant react if blocked

[burnt current]

What's wrong with 3:2 on a D7050 device?

[frigid condor]

just people being picky

[clever verge]

Thanks for the Heads up

[frigid condor]

there's already so many android 5.5 inch 16:9s, they're not exactly needed in my opinion

[burnt current]

Now I'm just being reminded that Kitsune has me blocked despite the fact that we've never interacted before lol

[clever verge]

"He Doesn't Respect" end of statement

[frigid condor]

[placid cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-eric-cartman-respect-authority-authoritah-gif-13202456096890101602

[burnt current]

Tbh I also don't respect democracy when there's a colour poll on Reddit lol

[solemn pumice]

For me it’s always a 50/50 if kitsune responds to me ._.

It is what it is

[clever verge]

Black, White, Grey. Top 3 colors. Every. Single. Time. People suck when it comes to colors

[frigid condor]

that's why you sneak in a little

uh

"vote fixing"

[solemn pumice]

Imagine people on Reddit voted 3:2 thinking it was 1080p

[clever verge]

I mean, it Technically is right?

[frigid condor]

it would've been helpful if i was given full screen specs

people were worried the wrong screen choice would mean a worse screen

[tawny swan]

no point device

[frigid condor]

i honestly expected all of the screens to be identical besides resolution

[tawny swan]

strong enough soc, but has no way to use actually ...

[burnt current]

Idek what I did to upset them. I'm not perfect but I thought I was pretty inoffensive aside from my interactions with Wumput

[gloomy grotto]

Personally, I'd like a bit higher resolution given so much power in the chipset

[solemn pumice]

it would have been accurate if you were given full specs

[clever verge]

Whumput had it coming

[frigid condor]

blame xu for not giving me all the info

[tawny swan]

we should force them to make another vote ...

[solemn pumice]

I mean you can tell them

[placid cosmos]

i just take it as a point of pride to get blocked
especially since i dont try to piss people off
if they gonna be that lame then i dont wanna talk to them anyway

[tawny swan]

seems like ppls dont understand what they pick at all

[clever verge]

I blame the 3:2 lovers from 2023 who never moved on

[solemn pumice]

Say you need a little bit more info

[frigid condor]

xu sent me a message hours before i woke up and when i woke up they were already asleep

[placid cosmos]

we should vote on if we vote again first

[gloomy grotto]

There's nothing to move on to

[frigid condor]

what was i supposed to do? delay the poll by a day?

[solemn pumice]

Yes

[burnt current]

Well the reason why I love 3:2 is because it's a happy medium aspect ratio. Some games have great wide-screen patches, but others don't, and it's alright for both

[solemn pumice]

All for accuracy

[clever verge]

1:1 best Retro ever

[frigid condor]

ok fine, but only if you give bobby tuna

[tawny swan]

yeah

[clever verge]

Does 3:2 better

[solemn pumice]

PS1 on 1:1 slowly pisses me off

[gloomy grotto]

960p vertical would give 2x 480p, 6x GBA, 4x 240p

720p is so close

[solemn pumice]

I can give you something that smells like tuna ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[frigid condor]

[clever verge]

1:1 Supremacy!

Best GBA, 4:3 is good Enough. And 8:7 with Interger Scale Over Scale is wonderful

[frigid condor]

i have to wonder if xuretro is actually a screen company because 2 out of 3 of the screens provided to us were not seen in this community before

[clever verge]

XU Retro is Magic X Lite

Diet Magic X

[frigid condor]

they're two seperate companies

[clever verge]

Ayn & Retroid said the Same thing

[solemn pumice]

Wait I can whip out the biography

[frigid condor]

yeah i think ayn and retroid are closer

[bronze yew]

what are you guys even complaining about this screen is the same resolution as the 960x720 4" panel found in the rg406 devices, which is honestly great for the powerlevel the t820 and d7050 sit at, just a few extra pixels for GBA, this ain't bad at all

[gloomy grotto]

Sean said before they split some of the work between Xu and MagicX, smaht

[placid cosmos]

i wanted 721p!

[clever verge]

I wanna Imagine they share the warehouse and yell at each other across it

[placid cosmos]

jigg jigging jard

[gloomy grotto]

exactly that

[bronze yew]

you lost some of your screws?

[solemn pumice]

Why cut inbetween the biography

[clever verge]

Oh sure, just use their own words against them like a Normal person

[frigid condor]

something like that

i'm pretty sure xuretro is a larger company than magicx, they're just not technical

[solemn pumice]

It’s really just symbiosis

[solemn pumice]

They have to be, seeing how fast they can pump out devices. ( Given that their ETA / roadmap is reliable.)

Releasing 2 XU35 and 1 XU40 handheld by the end of the year is no easy task

[frigid condor]

that hasn't been proven yet, but they're definitely not held to the same boundaries as magicx

[solemn pumice]

Magicx could only release a single device in that time

[solemn pumice]

I‘m thinking the same

[solemn pumice]

You’re the one wanting 721p

Speaking of it

[placid cosmos]

[frigid condor]

it could also be xu falling into the same mistakes sean used to make a year ago, we don't know

[solemn pumice]

Isn’t that the red gamma set for the broken display Helegaly?

Because of the 1 pixel on the right

[burnt current]

XU35 coming out before the One 35 is gonna fucking break me lmao

[solemn pumice]

It’s not impossible

[frigid condor]

sean used to give us really tight deadlines for products until he slowly realized the company repeatedly couldn't meet them

luna's cycle in this discord is pretty similar to sean's so far, so i'll wait and see what happens

[solemn pumice]

Nvm

[solemn pumice]

Maybe they could have met them who knows.

But they actually put in a lot of work to refine everything and optimize the software/ dawn launcher.

They’re being quite meticulous actually

Good to see, nothing‘s being rushed

[frigid condor]

and it's probably not on a large budget

the zero 40 after all was a co-branded thing, it probably wouldn't have existed if ampown wasn't backing it as they were probably funding a good portion of the project

it's like the triangle of building something, "cheap, fast, good, pick 2"

[solemn pumice]

Everything’s a collab for them

They were talking a lot about working closely with dimensity and allwinner

When using some of their facilities or something like that

[bronze yew]

I just hope I can buy my XU Pocket ACE by November

[frigid condor]

i think those are services mediatek and allwinner provide to any company, but those were services magicx desperately needed when they got scammed by their non-soc-company related partner

you can think of the flood of mediatek phones from the late-2000s and early 2010s out of shenzhen

magicx was really smart to take advantage of those services and then just hire a passionate dev to bring the software into a console-ready package

[bronze yew]

also the best thing about this 4.4" screen is that it's as good as the 4" 960x720 4:3 panel we had in similarly powered Anbernic devices, while actually giving 4.1" for 4:3 content

so in a sense the XU35 H40 has become kinda redundant for me

[frigid condor]

magicx and xu really be giving something to everyone

[bronze yew]

well, I'm just hoarding these devices at this point, so I will probably pick one up nevertheless

but I'm definitely most hyped for my XU Pocket ACE

[solemn pumice]

Which is kinda unfortunate, I really liked that blue.
But I also have no intentions of buying 2 handhelds that overlap this much in use cases.

You on the other hand…

You’ll probably get both

[frigid condor]

if i can convince magicx & xuretro to do some giveaways, i'll try to host some

[lyric totem]

This is still a pretty niche hobby with alot of competition. They still need to sell enough or end up taking losses.

[frigid condor]

sean had me set up a levelling system so we can do giveaways centered towards our most active members on our discord

[solemn pumice]

Don’t make us guess the price though, do the good old random selector

[frigid condor]

it's going to be a random selector

[solemn pumice]

Because I have no intentions abput wanting to tell you about my favorite game I want to play on the XU40

[solemn pumice]

Good, good

Doesn’t have to be a full unit, giving away coupons will do

[solemn pumice]

Oh hell no, you’re forcing me to chat with rich and wumput

[frigid condor]

rich i'm not worried about, he's nice and helpful

[solemn pumice]

Yeah I’m half joking

[frigid condor]

wumput? he infuriates me a bit, but i don't want my server to be authoritarian

[bronze yew]

I want it to be authoritarian, but only if you yield all the arbitrary power to me

[bronze yew]

so where is the leaderboard bobby?

[solemn pumice]

I want it to be like a anarchy Minecraft server

Kinda like what mangmi has going on

I could literally photoshop my own giveaway and post it, and people would participate

[frigid condor]

that place is basically held together by an unmarked mod with no powers

[frigid condor]

[bronze yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-gif-19831790

[slim gale]

So what I’m hearing is chat more so I get free stuff

Brb coding a chat bot

[frigid condor]

bad

[slim gale]

Well call it cat bot

You can be friends

[frigid condor]

stop shaking me

[bronze yew]

then do it properly

[rare junco]

I guess that's where the pocket ace lookalike went. But I don't understand.....when you're doing this level of power, why are you still going for 3:2 and why are you still doing inline shoulders?

I mean, I didn't quite understand it for the Pocket Ace either.

[bronze yew]

what problem is with the level of power?
this is t820/d900/sd845 level, way less juice than the ACE has and the rg477m also has inline shoulders while being vastly more powerful

[rare junco]

Like, are people going to buy this for GBA? The inline shoulders on the RG477M baffled me too.

[bronze yew]

among other things sure

this display gives 4.1" 4:3 area with the same resolution as the 4" screen Anbernic used in their 406 line-up, so it's really excellent for that as well

and 3:2 works out nicely for 16:9 content as well

it's just a way more fitting aspect ratio for retro handhelds than the plain old 16:9 panels we get most of the time

[lyric totem]

Like I said, I think people voting have no idea what they want. I have a feeling it might not sell too well.

[sharp cloud]

I want a a133p (or maybe the upcoming a73 allwinner) with this screen or the ktr1 screen, just for a cheap large gba device

[rare junco]

You're getting black bars for practically everything that's not GBA. I don't see how it makes sense unless your primary focus is GBA, which I don't think makes sense for a device with this kind of power either.

[bronze yew]

you would get black bars on a 16:9 panel as well

[rare junco]

The thing is, 3:2 is only good for GBA. Black bars for everything else. A 4:3 or 16:9 would cater to way more use cases.

[burnt current]

Ig it depends on your tolerance for black bars

The black bars for 4:3 and 16:9 content are small enough on 3:2 and that's why I like it

[solemn pumice]

I blame @frigid condor for not waiting a day and asking for screen resolutions

[bronze yew]

16:9 just sucks and is absolute garbo

[burnt current]

Most classic games I've played have been Nintendo's Virtual Console ports, which basically all have black bars

[bronze yew]

3:2 is

[rare junco]

On a weaker device I would kind of understand because there's not much you can play that's 16:9. But I just don't get it with a device of this power.

[bronze yew]

what exactly can you play on this that is 16:9?

PSP, that's it

[solemn pumice]

The voting options themselves were flawed

No horizontal 4:3

[burnt current]

Was definitely an oddball move

[bronze yew]

I'm more interested in the screen of option 3 than the device as shown for sure

[solemn pumice]

Option 3 is so random

[bronze yew]

but option 2 is simply

and I'm really glad they make one

[solemn pumice]

Why does this have a flip 2 control layout

[bronze yew]

probably some wonky resolution like the TrimUI Brick screen

at the end of the day 3:2 supremacy won by a very long shot, if the 4:3 would have been horizontal we may have had a draw tho

[rare junco]

Entire PSP, maybe some lighter Vita, streaming PC games, and a lot of native Android games are designed around widescreens.

[bronze yew]

yeah... great, get one of those countless other 16:9 devices then, we are in for the retro systems

[solemn pumice]

It would have won, for sure

[burnt current]

There's no need to be a dick about it

[rare junco]

I mean, the "this is retro" argument doesn't really mean much when you're reaching this level of performance. 😂

[solemn pumice]

all the 477 doubters would have jumped on it

[bronze yew]

ehhh dunno, won is a hard word, I may have dual voted for those options tho

[burnt current]

I think it'd definitely have won tbh

[bronze yew]

"this level of performance" is a weird argument still

[solemn pumice]

prog4m3r is coping

[burnt current]

Plenty of people in the same boat as Shamiko where black bars ruin the experience for them

[bronze yew]

I'm not coping anything, also if it ain't a 120hz 960p 4:3 screen it's pretty pointless to vote for XU to make one when Anbernic will flood the market with devices that have their panel

[solemn pumice]

They better hurry up with that

[rare junco]

Well I mean, I don't really mind black bars too much. I just personally can't fathom choosing a panel that fits only one use case, with black bars for all others.

[bronze yew]

I bet in 2-3 months we will see the next device with it

[solemn pumice]

Predicting another over-engineered piece of shyt

[bronze yew]

so what are you arguing for, 16:9 or 4:3?

[rare junco]

Either would make more sense than 3:2 imo.

[solemn pumice]

Anbernic is really good at making a perfect handheld and that changing one thing to make it flawed

[burnt current]

Like I said, I really like the happy medium area that it's in

[bronze yew]

well, we will see, I gotta buy two XU Pocket ACE

and the One 35 as well, if MagicX releases it at some point

[burnt current]

Outside of the price, what's the issue with 477M?

[solemn pumice]

Metall shell and shoulders

[burnt current]

Metal shell is bad now?

[solemn pumice]

Either make very low profile sticks that + inline triggers OR tall sticks + analog triggers

Makes it heavy and more expensive

[bronze yew]

the sticks ain't sticking out much, so

[remote swallow]

PSP, PS Vita, Wii (reminder that a lot of Wii games had letterboxing on 4:3 because they were only made with 16:9 in mind), Wii-U, Switch (Wouldn’t advise going into Switch emu in general, but it’s useful for indie titles if you don’t want to mess with Winlator).

Granted, I actively prefer 3:2 since I’m more than fine with playing 4:3 and 16:9 stuff on a 3:2 screen, so I’ll at least agree that 3:2 is great.

[bronze yew]

PSP and some Wii I will give to ya, but Vita emulation is not there and Wii U/Switch won't be something you do on an d7050

also as plain and simple as it is, there are more than enough 16:9 device people can pick from, more powerful 3:2 options are rare, so this will sell like hot cakes

[solemn pumice]

Yeah, like just get a Retroid or Ayn if you want 16:9

#1405942352069263430 will also soon be announced

[jolly kettle]

Y'all will also have to compete with the ayaneo pocket micro

That's being resold for cheap by antec

[slim gale]

Bigger and better, have a pocket micro and honestly just don’t like it that much lol

Love the screen, but the sticks and the sharp corners combined with the weight make it not that fun to use for longer sessions

[jolly kettle]

I mean in this price segment

[livid herald]

True

[burnt current]

Not sure about that one given the difference in screen size

Oh my bad

I guess you're right

But even with its superior power, I'd still want Touch One 35 over the Pocket Micro

[tawny swan]

seems like no re-vote ... rip device

[burnt current]

What's wrong?

[tawny swan]

3:2 with D7050 (D900), really?

[burnt current]

I don't really see the problem?

3:2 is decent for both 4:3 and 16:9 content

[clever verge]

d7050 was closer to a d1100

almost on par with the retroid 4 pro

i still cant get over how Dimensity made worse chips with higher numbers

[burnt current]

I have no clue how the naming convention works

[tawny swan]

not even

[tawny swan]

lol

its like 5-10% at max over Dimencity900 could be in handheld with higher limits

rename with low overclock

[clever verge]

Yea, I just double checked with a Better more accurate website...

It's an OverClocked d900, 3:2 is probably Fine™ . Best you are getting is GC & Some Ps2. Like 60-70% of the catalog anyway

Wii is a Pipe Dream on the d900

[tawny swan]

GC and PS2 will scale horrible on it

[burnt current]

Did black bars kill your fucking family or something

[jolly kettle]

D7050 is the D1080 renamed

[tawny swan]

true if frequencys

but with cuted bus

[clever verge]

after using some of the 3:2 devices from recent times, and seeing a shrunken down 4:3. i would rather sacrifice the 1 system that is 3:2 than all of the systems that are 4:3

its not the "Black Bars"

its the wasted space on the Plastic Shell of the device itself

[tawny swan]

7050 has just 2x16 bit, when normal (900 and 1080) 4x16 bit

[clever verge]

As for the Black Bars thing, im a 1:1 Supremacy Person. i live in the black bars lol

[burnt current]

I've been playing a ton of GameCube on Odin 2 Mini without wide-screen patches, and you lose quite a bit more screen real estate on that compared to 3:2, and I still think it's fine

I get it for One 35 because the screen is already not the biggest, but a 4.4" screen is pretty sizeable

Which is 4.07" for 4:3 and 4.2" for 16:9

A 4.4" 16:9 panel would display 4:3 content at 3.6", which is a massive reduction

[clever verge]

i have used alot of various devices thanks to a friend locally, on top of my own Pk V10

for Retro Stuff, 1:1 wins, then 4:3. Sacrafice the 3:2 GBA

16:9 is great for PsP and Wide Screen patches, but where it really Excels is getting Old Phone Screens for lower Prices and passing that unto us the consumers

im not gonna be that Super SP kid, but holy Crap on a Stick does 720p x 720p on my RGB30 look great. and im sure the CubeXX people can agree with me, and now all the new r36 Plus people recently joining for cheap

[burnt current]

But what if I want both 4:3 or 16:9 on a single display with massively compromising either?

I'd much rather a handheld that does it all, more or less, rather than own different handhelds for different purposes

[rare junco]

I'd rather compromise either one of them instead of compromising both of them.

[clever verge]

Retroid Mini V2 with that new Add on 2nd Display

[burnt current]

Well not all of us are moneybags able to buy whatever we please

[clever verge]

after scouring all of these devices now for almost 2 years, there is no "One device to Rule them All"

not yet, not unless you paying Aya Neo device money and even then its just disappoint ment because...Aya Neo is trash

[rare junco]

Well I'm not one of those either. That's why I'm willing to compromise. I just don't want to compromise everything that isn't GBA.

[burnt current]

You're really not losing that much tho...

This conversation is frustrating me way more than it should, so I'm gonna dip
Sorry if I came off as aggressive

[sinful mortar]

yeah.jpg I can lose 13 lines off both the top and bottom of most 4:3 games and be fine

[bronze yew]

1.5x scale at 4.1", not at all horrible

[sinful mortar]

also fun fact a bunch of '4:3' games of the crt era would account for crt tv overscan and are closer to 224p ~32:21 rendered viewport

[tawny swan]

I remember my experience with Rg406, it was awful.

It just doesn't look right, and it's perceived completely differently.

[clever verge]

with this d7050, d1080 re badge. 3:2 is w/e to me now. imma just wait for the big boy device and thier top end 16:9

[tawny swan]

Me too ... or maybe they realised it was mistake and drop both

[clever verge]

they seem to be Anbernic from last year and intent to drop a device very frequently

[sinful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-simpsons-krusty-the-clown-homer-simpson-clowns-gif-13052591347349595220

"ill just shoot both of you" vibes
they should just focus on releasing thier devices than the constant shell games
I have no idea wtf they're making anymore and im at the point of not fucking caring anymore

[clever verge]

they just keep changing chips ALOT. its crazy to keep up with

and then the Magic X & XU Retro combo, all in a crazy short period of time

im happy for them, but holy ball sacks is it confusing if you even miss 1 day of info dumping

[sinful mortar]

kek im on here like actual hours a day and I still dont know wtf is happening with XU/MagicX

and the only thing I care about is release date and price

[clever verge]

and Specs that are freaking gonna be Consistent lol

we are at a point now where they changed chips on Multiple devices with a Shit naming scheme

[languid dagger]

Do we know approximately how much the XU40 will cost?

[clever verge]

nope, they never revealed that much

[lyric totem]

This is why I prefer companies not to announce a product until its been solidified.

Its also a bad to ask for ideas from customers. too many cooks spoil the broth

[clever verge]

some input is fine

[sinful mortar]

design by commitee is fine for picking colors market research and not much else

[clever verge]

but holy poop lol

[lyric totem]

There's a diffrence between collecting feed back and making a poll to choose the screen size...

[bronze yew]

The people spoke, 3:2 was choosen, stop being salty about it

I wouldn't give a rats ass about 16:9 or a vertical 4:3

The XU Pocket ACE meanwhile is pure hype

[lyric totem]

People who won't buy the product. Next time only people who willing to put a down payment can vote

[dry sierra]

people are mainly salty about the resolution

doesn't integer scale much and the ppi isn't amazing

[spark cradle]

I was originally worried about black bars when I ordered my RP Classic but the OLED screen makes it work lol

1:1 is perfectly fine as long as the screen is good enough

[bronze yew]

Why tho? It's literally the same as the 4" 4:3 panel on Anbernics 406 devices, which is great for what the SoC can handle (+ some extra pixels to make it 3:2)

[clever verge]

1:1 Supremacy!

[sinful mortar]

yeah but theres a bunch of those now

more 3:2 5:3 plz

[spark cradle]

4:3 is probably a bit more versatile, but 1:1 is so incredible for multiscreen layouts

3:2 is fine if it's like a 4.5 to 5 inch screen and supports a vertical mode like the One 35 😂

[dry sierra]

except 960x720 integerscales SO many consoles, gba, gameboy, ps1, psp, sega genesis etc.

[clever verge]

tbf, they are all exactly the same lol. either 3326, 3566, one h700, one g99, one T820

[sinful mortar]

strange we havent seen a 3.5" 1:1 720p yet there is an available panel

[bronze yew]

This panel literally only has 120 extra pixels in width, it integer scales all this stuff the same, but you can choose to blow up GBA to 4.5x

[clever verge]

there was a Flood of 3:2 already tho. it waas deemed Garbge back then. we had one 5:3 that was Glorified as amazing, then Abandoned lol

[sinful mortar]

I mean unless you're counting like 350? years ago
its been pretty limited v10 and 34xx's

[clever verge]

3:2 was all the rage in 2023

[dry sierra]

that's like saying "well actually the 3ds xl integerscales gba as 2.9 thar's the same size as on the original so clearly that means it offers the same experience"

[sinful mortar]

and the 3326 was considered good then

[clever verge]

it was the King of Fun & we Liked it

and they were $100 devices *

[sinful mortar]

im not saying theres never been 3:2 screen im saying a more modern 3:2 is nice (guess theres the pocket micro if you can eat the shipping)

[spark cradle]

yeah I saw comments on Bilibili talking about those days

[dry sierra]

it technically integerscales the same stuff, but you lose out on a smaller more pocketable handheld because of the extra width, blackbars are also always best to be as minimal as possible

[spark cradle]

it sounds horrible 😂

[bronze yew]

Nah, what I'm saying is there is no real drawback on this 3:2 panel compared to Anbernics 4" 4:3, the only systems that "don't" scale the same are GBA and PSP as they have more space to work with

[dry sierra]

@bronze yew

[bronze yew]

Yeah read that after I send mine

[sinful mortar]

bruh hes in the chat you dont need to ping him

[bronze yew]

Whatever, buy something else then, IMO the XU40 Pocket ACE will sell a ton, I gotta buy two

[clever verge]

honestly that 5:3 sounds wondeful

[sinful mortar]

KT-R2 but hopefully without the jank and with an actual release

[dry sierra]

actually genesis doesn't scale the same either

290ppi is kinda low in 2025, like yeah steamdeck has an 800p screen and it's fine but that's because for 3d games scaling matters less

[sinful mortar]

🤣 reading too much copium posts

[bronze yew]

Dude... the screen is good enough

[dry sierra]

well being good enough better justify an incredible price point

[bronze yew]

If this had more power than it does, I would understand the complaints about it not literally being the KTR1 screen, but as it stands it fits what the SoC can do totally fine

[dry sierra]

power has nothing to do with how good the resolution should be

the higher res the better generally when it comes to retro handhelds

for handheld such as the steamdeck? honestly lower resolution makes a lot more sense

[bronze yew]

I quite dislike it if the device ain't powerful enough to integer scale to the display resolution

[dry sierra]

has that ever happened to anybody?

for 2d games absolutely no problem

for 3d, you just drop down the upscaling

[clever verge]

720p on a ~d900 is perfect

[tawny swan]

yeah

[clever verge]

Anything higher would be Pointless. Not Enough power to utilize it for PsP, GC

Ps2, you are gonna be lucky to be running most of the stuff Native

[tawny swan]

pretty sure they dont know it will be that dumb res 😄

this why voted

[dry sierra]

there is a big difference between 720 and 1080 when it comes to 2d games of this size

interpolation is going to work much better

[clever verge]

720p has better Interger Scaling for the vast majority of Systems

And the d1080 is not getting enough power for Upscaling GaneCube past 720p. Ps2 is Native for whatever it will be capable of even running. Little to no chance of Wii

[rare junco]

I guess the Pocket Ace clone is DOA. Waiting for their next real device. 👍

[bronze yew]

everyone: hyped about the XU Pocket ACE
Shamiko: it's DOA, stop enjoying things

[rare junco]

There's maybe like..
2 or 3 people hyping about it.

[bronze yew]

you and Whatever have been real party poppers about this, like your life would depend on XU's first higher-end device being exactly what you want... maybe just let the rest of us enjoy things

[rare junco]

Sure thing. You are free to enjoy it and I am free to not enjoy it.

But eh, knowing MagicX/XU, there's a good chance they'll pick up these negative opinions and turn the final product into something else anyway.

[radiant lantern]

Honestly don't think the screen resolution is too bad, besides doesn't the 4.5 inch 3:2 panel have problems with lightbleed? I remember seeing some reports even on the pocket ace

[fossil stag]

The 3:2 screen won the poll by a huge margin
It had almost 60 percent of the vote and had almost double the votes of the next voted option
I get that there may be people that don't agree with the final result and it's okay to have different opinions, but it seems that you're just now trying to manipulate opinions to make it seem like it like only 2 or 3 people voted in the poll

[rare junco]

🤷
I don't see many hyping about it here.

Either way my opinion won't change just because of a reddit poll.

If you want to enjoy it, go ahead. Don't force me to.

[fiery panther]

I honestly don't care about any of this new consoles, the one that is pocket size is outclassed by the Tone35 in functionality

[woven shell]

This has gotta be the best channel in the server

You can get the closest you'll ever get to the actual development of new consoles that have really cool specs and styles available for all types of devices

And somehow it boils down to people bitching about screen ergos and arguing that Pokemon bdsp looks good

[spark cradle]

you can't tell me that the water in BDSP doesn't look good to be fair 😂

do agree that it was a letdown graphically in general though

[fiery panther]

For me

It feels like a mix of styles

That doesn't blend together that well

Showing how rushed the developers were during the process

The games came as broken as Pokemon Red and Green

[woven shell]

The major issue with it is that it signifies a complete non-attempt to actually remake the game

Jubilife city should look like this

But instead it looks like this

[glad oriole]

XU40 H55 will continue to be sold, but H44 will be sold first. As for the 4.5-inch 4:3, I believe it will appear in the new device of MagicX.

[woven shell]

Sorry for derailing the chat Luna

Very interested to see

[vagrant iris]

So the order of releases is 1. XU35 H50 -> 2. XU40 H44 and -> 3. XU35 H40?

[bronze yew]

you talking about the six button one, right?
can you tell us the resolution of the 4:3 screen?

[bronze yew]

probably, I really hope I get my XU40 Pocket ACE by November

[fiery panther]

XU20 in a few days

[bronze yew]

they haven't shipped that one yet?

[burnt current]

Nah they said they'd start shipping around the 23rd/24th

[bronze yew]

okay fair

[spark cradle]

^^^this

[spark cradle]

what are the XU40 specs again

[bronze yew]

D7050 (same level as D900, T820, SD845)
with a 4.4" 3:2 1080x720 screen

[spark cradle]

ooh interesting

[vagrant iris]

can't decide if I'm more excited about XU40 H44 or XU35 H40 😄

[bronze yew]

certainly is, especially as the screen gives a 4.1" 4:3 area with the same resolution as Anbernics 406 devices, so that's really good IMO

[bronze yew]

I'm more interested in MagicXs 6-button device which will apparently use the 4.5" 4:3 screen, maybe later XU will do an XU40 H45 too, for a more normal design... basically an rg477m clone in plastic would be kinda fun

[solemn pumice]

Updated roadmap :

XU40 H55 :
MTK D7050
5,5“ 1920x1080
Planned for 2026

XU40 H44:

MTK D7050
4,4“ 1080x720p
Planned for November

XU35 H50:
MTK G85
5,0“ 1280x720
Planned for October

XU35 H40:
MTK P65
4,0“ 960x720
Planned for December

XU30 V36 + XU30 H35:
Allwinner A73 CPU
Planned for 2026

[burnt current]

What was the XU30?

[bronze yew]

it's XU40 H44 tho

[vagrant iris]

Oh this one also looks interesting but I think 4 inch 4:3 will be much more pocketable and very good as Dreamcast machine;) (+easier to run GCN games)

[solemn pumice]

Oh right, it still had 45 from the ace screen

[solemn pumice]

Name of that new Allwinner chip is still under embargo

[solemn pumice]

Where was that announced again

[burnt current]

So not even a design shown???

XU30 must be the XU10-looking thing

[solemn pumice]

Nah but people suspect it’s whatever at the top of this picture

Looks too small though imho

[burnt current]

I think it's just that the XU20 is quite big for its screen size

[solemn pumice]

Top left is built like a ayaneo pocket classic

[burnt current]

These two have basically the same measured width

83 mm vs 84 mm

[solemn pumice]

Can’t hurt to be that big, the bezels help with giving the screen surface to stick on.
So it’s more sturdy and won’t fall out

[burnt current]

I'm not complaining

It's a fine size

People won't like the bezels, but I'm not really one of them

[solemn pumice]

They can just get a brick

Looking forward to reviewins / comparisons between those two

[burnt current]

I already own an RGB20 Pro, which I think has even bigger bezels with the same screen lol

[solemn pumice]

The handheld that’s built like a tv remote

[burnt current]

Yup

I like it for what it is, but it's too tall for me to fit it in my back pocket without it sticking out

[solemn pumice]

I don’t doubt that

[burnt current]

The height definitely helps with the comfort though

[burnt current]

My guess is that it's a prototype of that thing MagicX were making that was effectively the One 35 but shaped like the Pocket Ace

Idk if either company still plan on manufacturing it at a larger scale

[bronze yew]

MagicX's N64/Genesis/Saturn device? On their server/channel. The more normal XU variant is just my speculation

[solemn pumice]

Odin 3 just got announced

Guess I need to save up for that instead

[bronze yew]

well, they had to with the KONKR Pocket Fit being announced

[burnt current]

I feel dumb asking, but what's the point in going beyond SD 8 G2 for emulation?

[solemn pumice]

It’s so funny how irrelevant konkr just became

[bronze yew]

Switch seems to profit a lil from the G3 Gen3 and maybe Winlator can pull some more, but it really isn't meaningful for emulation

[hoary egret]

Lets see what feature they add in 😂, maybe six buttons? Touch pad?

[bronze yew]

I think the Odin 3 will just be direct competition to the KONKR Pocket Fit, but ehh, wrong channel for this

[jolly kettle]

It's either the A333 or A537

They both have roughly the same GPU as the A527 (Mali G57 MC1)

[slim gale]

If it’s under embargo it might be an unannounced chip though right?

[tawny swan]

but 845 can much more with turnip

[bronze yew]

Well, their main supplier is MTK, so we can cry about Snapdragon all we want, yet it's hardly relevant at this level IMO, most GCN will run fine, PS2 isn't really affected by Turnip drivers and Switch ain't something you will want to buy this for anyway

[burnt current]

PS2 isn't affected by Turnip drivers?

I thought RP5 had a decent bump up in performance from RP4P for PS2

When the chipsets aren't that different in terms of pure power

[bronze yew]

Nah, pretty much same same, some stuff even runs better on RP4pro, GCN does more 3x upscale thanks to it than 2x

[tawny swan]

and if skilled a bit u can gain over 25%+ performance boost with GPU overclock and some rom/ram optimization (on 855/865 too)

[sharp cloud]

Aethersx2 (at least the versions commonly used) has no support for loading turnip drivers.

But Qualcomm/adreno official drivers already tends to be better/more compatible than Mali, at least for the older generations gpus.

[stark stirrup]

Please don't be h701

[storm warren]

(A733+A133)/2 = A433

[woven shell]

A100,000,000

(extra 2fps in n64 emulation)

[fiery panther]

3 days for XU20

[glad oriole]

XU35 H50 color, details

[burnt current]

Analogue triggers?

Interesting

[glad oriole]

XU35 H40 transparent style

[burnt current]

Back view, please?

[glad oriole]

All XU35 series use Hall trigger

[burnt current]

Great for Dreamcast

[slim gale]

Stereo speakers looks like, also love the blue/green color

[dry sierra]

I mean it's a non pocketable design

of course it's going to have those triggers

[burnt current]

I wouldn't consider it to be a matter of course

Especially after the RG477M

[bronze yew]

No red triggers and analogue ones are kinda pointless for a G85

[bronze yew]

Don't kill the dream of a 405m with a better screen by doing analogue triggers on that one too

I mean, on the widescreen one, okay, for game streaming, but on the 4:3 device?

[jolly kettle]

Finally

Budget dreamcast

[fiery panther]

Oooh RG350 vibes from this

[fiery panther]

So, all this consoles share the same chip with the Tone35

It is just different shape

Or the bigger one has a different chip?

[bronze yew]

No XU35 shares the G85 with the One series

[fiery panther]

I see

[tawny swan]

oh ... that interesting

[sullen lark]

Will the H40 only come in transparent colors or will there be a matte black version as well?

[fiery panther]

Will be fun if XuRetro doesn't do what MagicX does, no Xbox black consoles

[glad oriole]

The XU35 H50 price will be announced in 10 hours.
Vote for multiple colors.

[frigid condor]

are we voting on the price?

[glad oriole]

Poor translation

[fossil stag]

You get tax refunds on the xu products depending on how many kittens you have

I saw that they also released the price for the mangmi air - it's 80$ for early bird

[frigid condor]

that might be why luna is revealing the price soon

[jolly kettle]

Please be sub-$100....

And 4+64 RAM/ROM

[frigid condor]

please be $85

[jolly kettle]

Give the Air X some competition

XU20: 2+0
XU30: 3+32
XU35: 4+64
XU40: 6 or 8+128

[rare junco]

And I hope for a release date as well. (Yes, yes, I know, MagicX dates are about as reliable as miyoo hinges)

[spark cradle]

sub-80*

[jolly kettle]

Yes

That'll give the Air X a real run for its money

Then again they'll each have their own advantages:

[frigid condor]

The XU35 has sexier colors

[jolly kettle]

Air X has turnip support for better compatibility with light switch and pc games and a 1080p screen

While the XU35 would be cheaper with almost if not just as good controls and have better raw performance and power efficiency thanks to the MTK G85

[frigid condor]

take that mangmi

[frigid condor]

pretty sure the xu35 will have better controls

[jolly kettle]

Well they'll both have hall sticks and analog triggers

[frigid condor]

I trust Sean’s hands

[sharp cloud]

its not mentioned, but i assume "standard features" such as vibration, microphone etc are included in the XU35 and above lineup?

[spark cradle]

I honestly care more about how sexy my wallet will still look like after these purchases unless they're like the AYN Thor 😂

[frigid condor]

I didn’t know the mangmi doesn’t have analog triggers

[sharp cloud]

it should have?

[frigid condor]

was it ever stated?

[sharp cloud]

don't look like digital to me

[burnt current]

I forget

[rare junco]

It's in the spec sheet
https://mangmi.com/products/mangmi-air-x

[burnt current]

Does the XU35 have a touch screen

I assume so, since XU20 does

[sharp cloud]

oh it has gyro as well

[burnt current]

Gyro is an interesting one

[frigid condor]

I’m pretty sure it’s part of the SOC

[burnt current]

Wonder when you'd use that at this level of power

Oh lol

[sharp cloud]

vibration and mic not mentioned

[frigid condor]

I can’t swear at people in COD mobile

[fossil stag]

Yeah where's the rgb light on the xu consoles?
Does a console really matter if it doesn't light up like a christmas tree

[sharp cloud]

hope the XU retro and magicx upcoming products don't release with weird refresh rates (think the mangmi one isn't 60 out of the box, at least for the units already out) and out of phase speakers

[frigid condor]

at least we have breeze

[rare junco]

Just based on specs on paper the Air X is a pretty damn good deal. But I am much more willing to try out the G85 in the XU35, as long as the build quality is good and they can give a clear timeframe.

The color choices are kinda meh, though.

[fossil stag]

That screen looks really good
1080p at that price is out of this world 🚀

[jolly kettle]

Apparently the MTK G85 also has a gyroscope

[jolly kettle]

These will also run Android 12 correct?

[jolly kettle]

Also drop the full spec sheet while you're at it

[burnt current]

This is true

We can assume it's a match to One 35 in most respects, but that's just an assumption

[jolly kettle]

Yeah best guess

I'm confident in the XU35 H50 being a great budget streamer device

Decent enough screen, all the right controls and WiFi 5 should make for a comfortable experience

[jolly kettle]

As well as for PSP aswell, it has more than enough power to run a good chunk of the library at 3x, the heavier games at 2x

The Air X's battery life while playing psp seemed kinda underwhelming

Less than 4hrs

[serene sky]

Off topic, but I know the XU folks look at these sometimes. Would like XU to steal this design, inset the controls to the maximum possible and make something without the fan noise pls 🙂 .

[jolly kettle]

Yeah that's what they're sorta doing with the H50

Except it's abit smaller and the screen is 720p instead of 1080p

[serene sky]

That's cool at this screen size. May even get better battery life. Just need that ergo and quiet.

[jolly kettle]

Yeah it will be

[serene sky]

This is likely not quite right. The left side is inset and the right is directly under the buttons. May be intentional for TATE?

[jolly kettle]

Don't think the xu35s will have active cooling either

[serene sky]

The Magmi X is great until that fan turns on :(. So close.

[jolly kettle]

XU35 will definitely have better battery life than the Mangmi

[vagrant iris]

I think it's just perspective, they both look inset to me, but less so than on Mangmi

On the other hand I think 5 inch suits psp and below better, making it much more pocketable

[jolly kettle]

XU40 should have active cooling?

[tawny swan]

it silent lol

[tawny swan]

streamer device with D900/1080/7050 Xd - 7050/1080 is overcloked D900 btw

it can handle any ps2 game, 3ds, wii (any android, many x64, light switch)

[serene sky]

Maybe for you. The reviews that have the sound of the fan in them tell a different story.

[jolly kettle]

XU35 has the Helio G85

Think you're on about the XU40

[tawny swan]

yikes

[jolly kettle]

The XU40 H55 fits the bill for what you're talking about

5.5" 1080p screen, hall sticks and triggers

That'll be a good streamer too

[tawny swan]

yeah, wrong device

😄

so dumb code-names ...

Hm... g85 is like T618

[jolly kettle]

Yeah they're comparable

[tawny swan]

maybe underclocked like in X28

[jolly kettle]

GPU should be abit better because of the higher clock

[tawny swan]

gpu doesnt matter

emulators cpu bound (except x64, switch, wii u, ps3, xbox)

[jolly kettle]

850MHz on T618 vs 1GHz on G85

[jolly kettle]

True

There's also GPU bound games that are on the cusp of being fullspeed on the t618 I reckon

[zealous jolt]

Will turnip drivers actually improve anything on the mangmi? I was under the impression they only helped in stuff like wiiU and switch

[tawny swan]

dont think it would be cheaper or the same price for real :/ but if ... Mangmi will be cooked 😄

[vagrant iris]

Probably they will provide better compatibility in Winlator

[zealous jolt]

Ooo good point I forgot about that

[burnt current]

Seems respectable enough tbh

Does SD662 have high power consumption or something?

[jolly kettle]

They should deffo send gamma dev units for these xu devices

[burnt current]

I think Gamma asked if they would but idk what answer he got

[glad oriole]

After 4 hours, there will be multiple color options for complaints

[vagrant iris]

When do you plan to start pre-orders?

Can we expect similar price for H40?

[glad oriole]

There is no early bird price for the H40, and the price will be $5 more than the H50