Anbernic RG DS

[trail wigeon]

Imagine if instead of this slop they just put a single 406v screen in a bigger h700 clamshell

[zinc patio]

Imagine if they did a dual screen clamshell with the T820 right off the bat and avoided all this cringe lol

[trail wigeon]

The 406v screen would be such a good screen for a budget linux handheld. Integer scales everything

[twilit meadow]

This is the 477m Anbernic should of made , how hard was it to mod stacked triggers ?

[zinc patio]

" I refuse making the RG477H"

Ok , get trampled by the RP6 then

[worn sierra]

The price would be too close to ayn thor

The rg slide was $189

[pearl flower]

Ya know

I’d happily pay $200 for an RG DS pro with T820 and dual 960p screens

[worn sierra]

Too pricy for normies
This would've been cool if it was like $15 cheaper
A lot of the issues seems to be software related

[zinc patio]

If they released that right now they could pull off that price and have sales , 2026 is a different story

[drifting laurel]

The thor lite probably won't exist anymore so it'd still be $100 cheaper

[frank nacelle]

Did they discontinue it?

[drifting laurel]

Officially no, but they haven't shipped any AFAIK and its the only one listed as out of stock

[worn sierra]

It's still available on aliexpress

[zinc patio]

If the purpose is playing upscale 3DS , the Lite is more than enough and makes the other more expensive ones overkill. It's not a surprise they may nerf it

[warped delta]

Do u know anbernic pre load roms set on their devices.
Rumours that this practice stop them from getting the qualcomm chip. Why anbernic dont have s865 chipset?

Ayn, retroid, ayaneo and mangmi all of them dont give you rom set You need to DIY which is difficult for some parents buying gifts for children. That's why all these companies have access to qualcomm chipset.

[jolly radish]

Anbernic is never going to use anything higher than a D8300 in anything they make that runs android

Unless Max can get them for 2 bananas and an egg

Anbernic is good not to continue to pull this crap as long as we give them money, and since they are super popular in China that's going to have them continue to shit out sub par devices

[warped delta]

Without qualcomm chipset, they will not able to emulate switch well and also winlator (gamehub) will not be so great.
ayaneo and ayn already use 8 elite chip for superior gamehub emulation.
Anbernic will only chasing shadow.

[jolly radish]

No anbernic chases profit

https://tenor.com/view/dive-into-money-money-bin-ducktales-scrooge-mcduck-gif-1520915004553762854

[worn sierra]

Its because of the driver support not the chipset power
The d8300 is way more powerful than the 865

[zinc patio]

It's the easiest thing ever to download roms to an Android handheld , it's literally putting a file on a regular phone.
Imagine not having a deal with Qualcomm because of that

[warped delta]

Everyone knows that qualcomm has the famous turnip drivers.
look at ayn, they dont use mediatek or unisoc chipset anymore. They also know that eventually there may be custom driver for 8 elite chipset and it will change everything.

[zinc patio]

Early 2026 per rumors

[warped delta]

why r36s is so popular, any parents who has zero knowledge on computers and etc just bought this device give to their children. Immediately they can start playing. all the roms set and the arkos goodness.

[trail warren]

Or if it just confirmed to the rumors. T620 with 768p screens

[zinc patio]

But wasn't the T620 that couldn't output dual screens ?

[zinc patio]

That and the price

[warped delta]

I saw on AliExpress may sell around 15 to 20 in sales and still have not applied coupons yet.
R36S is actually dominating the retro handheld for ultra budget handheld that can play some psp and n64 !!!

I bought some as gifts for children and they will love them.

[trail warren]

I thought that was the t618?

[zinc patio]

Some people here said the T620 would have the same limitation

[trail warren]

D'oh

[charred lava]

I recall people saying the cheapest chip besides this current one is the T820 yea

[zinc patio]

I remember that too , there's no gray area. Either the RK or the T820 and up
Although maybe the G99 could do it ? Or some older SD ...

[radiant flicker]

the surface DS is actually 1 screen with DS is software

the chip doesn't need to support dual screen but one must invest heavily in software

[radiant flicker]

G99 is nope, minimum snapdragon is 835

[zinc patio]

I see , then they really should have gone with the T820 tbh
Yes , it would be more expensive but it's not like they wouldn't sell it

[radiant flicker]

also I have G99, it doesn't like switch or 3ds emulation

it theory it should work but it just doesn't do it well

[zinc patio]

There's no problem with no Switch emulation on this device tbh Just stable and upscaled DS would be great

[radiant flicker]

both switch and 3ds emulations are at very early stages. It would need at least 5-10 years more for them to mature a bit more

[charred lava]

I'll repeat that I would have no interest if this was in the $200 range

[zinc patio]

Because then it would be too close to the RP6

I see what you mean , but i know they would still sell lots of clamshells

[jolly radish]

If it was in the $100 - $200 range then it wouldn't be a shit device

[charred lava]

Perhaps but I wouldn't care lol

[drifting laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-feel-gif-26944000

[charred lava]

Like of course I want this to be better

But the price increasing to accommodate that isn't something I care for

[pearl flower]

I mean yeah sure good and cheap is ideal

But let’s be realistic

[charred lava]

I mean by better I would just want the bug with the refresh rate to be fixed

2x DS would be nice but absolutely not essential

Same thing with retroachievements

[indigo grove]

Anbernic isn't chasing the shadow, they're doing business and thriving particularly for that. They've successfully become the light in the handheld industry.

I fear many new companies who try to chase Anbernic will instead end up chasing the shadow.

[pearl flower]

What

[warped delta]

ayaneo pocket mini and Mangmi Air X are good deals but people have to DIY to make it a good android emulator, Retroarch, shaders, bilinear filtering, cores make non IT users head spin.
Anbernic has magic in the sleeve. They provide you roms for rg35xxsp, rgds and etc. People can pick up and immediately start playing the devices.
For this reason alone, RGDS will sell very well. ( A bit like the android TV superconsole X )

[indigo grove]

Providing roms won't magically sell the device itself.

[warped delta]

It helps for people who are puzzle by what is bios, what is roms? obviously not in this discord chats but some non IT people.

[indigo grove]

As much as Mangmi Air X is a good deal, it stands that right now, Anbernic RG DS is a good deal in dual-screen budget range if they fix their software issues.

[warped delta]

Yes, GammaOs will do the job. Anbernic will later improve the stockOS.
Anbernic may not send any more their handhelds to Russ anymore ( strike off him name soon)

[indigo grove]

No, they won't strike Russ for some mere criticisms unlike Retroid who striked Joey's Handheld.

[drifting laurel]

They wouldn't strike Russ his channel is too big

It would be a terrible look for them

[oblique estuary]

https://v.redd.it/xa1x6du2bq3g1/CMAF_480.mp4?source=fallback

they've been working on the 40 hz issue

have they shipped it yet? they could get the fix out before retail units are sent

[distant jacinth]

Sweet! They told Russ they were working on a fix too, so hopefully they fix it either before shipment or with an OTA update

[distant jacinth]

Nah none have been shipped yet

[oblique estuary]

ah, gotcha

well this makes the biggest problem resolved, just a matter of seeing once it gets in consumer hands

[indigo grove]

It's great that they've acknowledged the problem and are finally fixing it ❤️

[distant jacinth]

Battery life was already reported to be pretty bad, I imagine it will get worse if they stop the top screen from going into power-saving 40hz mode lol. Ah well, would obviously rather have it run at 60hz all the time that a few extra mins of battery

[oblique estuary]

yeah the battery is unfortunate, luckily i imagine disabling the top screen will help if you aren't doing ds

i think i probably would be playing for 30 min - 1 hour at a time so it wouldn't bug me too much, at least based on how long i play my 34xxsp

[indigo grove]

Well some sacrifices have to be made to squeeze performance, I'm fine with that. 3+ hours battery life while playing DS sounds fine in my books

[oblique estuary]

i'm glad russ showed the potential of multitasking a little, i feel like that kind of thing is severely underrated for all these dual screens

if i had a thor i'd absolutely have genshin and a youtube video loaded up lmao

[indigo grove]

Also I hope they fix touch rate sampling issue that reviewers mentioned

[oblique estuary]

that i'm not too sure if they will be able to resolve given emulation kinks. even the thor has some latency

[indigo grove]

I think Retroid dual screen thingy fixed it via software updates.

So, it's fixable by some length

[oblique estuary]

i'm surprised no reviewers have really done much testing of some of the 3ds games anbernic did show tbh

i love rune factory 4 and that was their go-to showcase, very curious if it does indeed run just fine

like yeah nobody should expect pokemon on this thing working well, but there's a fair few very lightweight 3ds games and indies

[indigo grove]

Yeah, I'd just turn off the sounds if they're choppy on 3ds but as long as it runs fine, I don't see any problems

3ds is just a bonus system btw

[oblique estuary]

i am glad that russ' ds testing also kinda showed that, barring the 40 hz issue, the device can still play nearly every ds game with only two examples he found needing 1x and the rest can still run at 2x

[indigo grove]

But one thing that caught me off guard was DC performance Russ showed on RG DS 🙁

[oblique estuary]

isn't dreamcast really notoriously hard to run?

i have no games i've ever been interested in playing from it so i never looked into it

[indigo grove]

I think some lightweight games should run fine even on that R36s so I was expecting much from this device

Sadly it didn't fare well in that department

[oblique estuary]

ah i see

wait the manual multitasking thing russ showed would be awesome for games like nes zelda and mother 1

[indigo grove]

I think RG DS even has in build AI translation so Mother 1+2+3 will be finally playable in English

[oblique estuary]

mother 3 has a great fan translation already and mother 1 & earthbound have official english translations

[indigo grove]

I ain't touching fan translation

[charred lava]

Mother's 3 fan translations is awesome tho?

[oblique estuary]

i'd only ever have interest in the translation tool for games that completely lack translations, ai hallucinates a lot and the mother series has VERY specific and careful wording

an ai would never pick up the nuance of mother 3's script

[indigo grove]

I'd be just pressing A A A A button btw so I'm fine with AI translation

[charred lava]

Ew

[oblique estuary]

the entire point of mother 3 is the dialogue and script so you'd basically miss the whole game

there would be no point in playing it

[indigo grove]

Ew x2 for fan translation

[charred lava]

Yea the story and the events are why people love the game

[oblique estuary]

it's like entering a visual novel and saying "ewww i have to READ?"

that's. the whole point,

[charred lava]

Yea lol

[oblique estuary]

there is a reason people say mother 3 is an extremely hard game for something like nintendo to ever want to officially translate, the script has so many subtleties to it

[charred lava]

You shouldn't be playing these types of games if you're not going for the story

[indigo grove]

RG DS has in build AI translation feature so it's awesome to use that service on official Mother 1+2+3 japanese dump that isn't hacked by any fans

[charred lava]

It's fine in a pinch but

I kinda hate playing untranslated games with external tools

Fan translations all the way

[oblique estuary]

there is no reason to use a jp dump of earthbound or mother 1 when official translations exist and mother 3 is fundamentally a game that needs its script translated by a human

games that just have some ui in a different language can work fine with that ai tool

but a game so heavy on writing is pointless to play when you will get every other sentence mistranslated

[indigo grove]

I'd be okay if I could just copy paste the files for fan translation but I would not trust the patcher I need to dump for ROM.

[charred lava]

?

Just use the online patcher

[indigo grove]

Nah it will modify my original rom, I won't be okay with it

[oblique estuary]

they're more trustworthy than buying from an overseas company that is ripping off copyrighted consoles and providing pirated emulators on them?

[indigo grove]

I'd better play AI translation rather than going through the process

[oblique estuary]

you really trust a faceless company making knockoffs over an open source well documented and trusted tool that has existed for over a decade?

[sinful hearth]

It's really not that bad, but it's your choice in the end

[charred lava]

First time I've seen anyone be weird about fan translations lol

[indigo grove]

I don't purchase SD cards off them, it's only problem if you buy SD

[oblique estuary]

still technically illegally ships commercial emulators

i'm just saying, your logic is not consistent here

[indigo grove]

You can always remove/uninstall the emulators like Russ taught us

[oblique estuary]

you also assume you're downloading roms from some place that aren't already tampered

like idk how the part you have to question is... a fan patch with over a decade of support and giant community and is open source and well documented on how it was made

[indigo grove]

That's why I've few collection of my own games that I'd like to play

[oblique estuary]

one that is probably the one to toby fox used back in the day to play mother 3

all i'm putting out there is, your logic isn't consistent if your concern is privacy and safety and untampered stuff; you probably should not hook your handhelds up to the wifi if you're that worried

[indigo grove]

Isn't it consider illegal if I patch roms?

[oblique estuary]

no

[charred lava]

No

Why would it be

[indigo grove]

Nintendo says that

[oblique estuary]

they do not

they say it's illegal to pirate roms. which is true

[charred lava]

Nintendo also says it's illegal to dump your own roms

[indigo grove]

You can't backup your roms

[indigo grove]

Umm, I'm playing NSO on switch mostly for now

[charred lava]

Why are you discussing using AI translations for Mother 3 then

You do you but you're not making any sense

[zinc patio]

Me, waiting for more Cross platform Switch 2 games so i can pirate them

[indigo grove]

Coz I'm excited that we can use the AI feature of RG DS

[charred lava]

You do realize

It's playing on the devices right?

[indigo grove]

You do you, I don't care whether you pirate or what.

For me it's morally and ethically wrong, that's it

[charred lava]

Dude what are you even saying lol

[zinc patio]

You do you , i could care less what you think of it lol

[charred lava]

Using the AI features on this equates to dumping your own roms onto the device which by your logic is something you wouldn't do

[indigo grove]

People like you are the main reason why Nintendo is inventing game key carts. Enjoy the modded switch 2 games when we will be playing switch 3

[oblique estuary]

i have no idea how somebody can fear potential damage of a trusted, well documented open source fan translation that has existed possibly longer than them if they aren't an adult but fully trust importing a knockoff console from a foreign country using a site that looks like it's trying to constantly scam you (aliexpress) and fine with having it connect to their internet and use ai, as if ai doesn't send everything to their servers and track everything

like at least be consistent here

[zinc patio]

Ah don't worry , there will be a way around that too lol

[indigo grove]

Ahh are you playing DK Bananza on your steam deck son 😆

[zinc patio]

I am literally playing the Tomb Raider game that was released like 4 days ago ? Lol

[indigo grove]

That's on switch 1 so it's not surprising that you pirated it

[zinc patio]

I am not playing that lol Game sucks , same for the new Metroid coming up.
Not worth it
The cross platform ones are a different story because i can do my little part to damage Nintendo

[indigo grove]

And you're openly admitting it here on this sub of all places

[zinc patio]

Yes

[indigo grove]

You are just a thief

Not surprising

[zinc patio]

Not really , i wouldn't steal from anyone. But Nintendo deserves it

And you're a Myiamoto simp

[indigo grove]

And people will defend this shit lol 😆

[oblique estuary]

you are hyping up the rg ds that preinstalls stolen copies of emulators from small developers

at least have some consistency

[zinc patio]

Yes

[indigo grove]

Just ban me and move on, I've nothing more to talk to pirates

[sinful hearth]

Uh

[zinc patio]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-curse-of-the-black-pearl-potc-gif-16471150

[sinful hearth]

I guess that's good at least

[charred lava]

Hopefully it will be fixed before it's out

[oblique estuary]

ik somebody who's excited for it for flower sun and rain

it's gonna be nice playing some of these on it

also nice to know the lack of integer scale is gonna be fine given what russ said about it looking comparably better than the dsi xl original screens

[charred lava]

Like I get why people are disappointed but as long as I can do 1x DS with a sharp bilinear shader, that's all I need

[trail warren]

I honestly think this device can be saved if it gets some support from the community. I'm going to hold off until then though

[charred lava]

GammaOS wip already doesn't have the issue

And it looks like Anbernic is gonna patch out the 40hz at least too

[warped delta]

Yes, dont bother with 3ds games on RGDS as first the screen look stretch out and secondly this is a low power processor (Rk3568), it dont have the actual power to run most of the 3ds games.
Anbernic just needs to focus on getting DS games run well.

[oblique estuary]

which, they do with the 40 hz issue patched

[charred lava]

There was a bilibili vid earlier

[warped delta]

It great that Anbernic fix the 40hz screen.
Next, Russ highlight that user interface polling at 60hz unlike ayn thor 120hz. which result in inaccuracies.
Can anbernic fix this also?

[oblique estuary]

if they made it a $200 device and not $100

then sure

[lethal sundial]

are we back to refresh rate discussion?

[charred lava]

I don't even use 120hz on the Thor lol

[warped delta]

This point is highlight by russ, about the polling rate not refresh rate.

He even mentioned that this polling rate results in him not able to play rhythm heaven properly. This is what he claimed.

[grand sluice]

What other games aside from rhythm heaven are affected by the polling rate problem?

i can't imagine back in the day people took the time to go to a store and buy that game anyway

[warm crest]

I mean, probably also an issue for Elite Beat Agents, think it being capacitive is more the issue for Trauma Centre, Etrian games etc. where accuracy is key.

But also Rhythm Heaven slaps... Though i do usually play megamix on my 3ds, which actually has a handful of great rhythm games

[grand sluice]

I think the only touch-heavy game I played on mine as a kid was canvas curse

i gotta see for myself how it performs, hopefully it isnt too bad

[warm crest]

I remember a lot of destroyed screens from pokemon ranger... but will concede an insane amount of hours on my DS lite was just pokemon

[upper fiber]

Chill mam unless you are working for Nintendo stop sucking Nintendo tits already all the scene is in a gray legal area and if you the "moral area" is more important playing Roms back up them etc is more moral aceptable that leve them for root in some Hardik

If Nintendo Sony and Microsoft can destroys all the ROM site with a blink of eye, they would do it and the normal people would share again and again.

[radiant flicker]

as long as people don't touch the switch, nitendo doesn't care

[warm crest]

I mean.. They slap down sites that do SNES / GBA etc sometimes... as do other publishers when they get a bit too big or trend on tic tok etc.

[upper fiber]

Sadly Nintendo still attacking roms hack that don't have any relationship with switch

[indigo grove]

It's their intellecutual property so

[upper fiber]

And still asking for sites down that don't have swicht games

[upper fiber]

And?

[radiant flicker]

don't do things that make them look bad, don't do "this romhack better than nintendo"

[indigo grove]

they have every rights

[upper fiber]

And ?

[indigo grove]

FUCK YOU

[upper fiber]

Yeah

[radiant flicker]

there are so many rom romhacking sites out there, nintendo doesn't care unless someone actively makes nintendo look bad

[grand sluice]

what are some instances wherein they shut down a site?

[upper fiber]

Nah, Nintendo just care is they are big the part of "they make Nintendo look bad" is so hypocrite

[radiant flicker]

recent memory pokemon uranium

[indigo grove]

This is the thing we're doing against them. It's just cat-and-mouse chase at the end which will never end.

I usually don't care whether you dump your own game or own it from internet, I only like to follow the laws, that's it. No need to be salty!

[upper fiber]

Easy if buying is not owning, pirating is not stealing

Every company that do thing to you not own your games that you buy, deserver being pirated

[radiant flicker]

so... every single company out there?

[indigo grove]

I also hope that you follow your local laws regarding copyright, piracy, and such. If not, there's nothing I can do, it's upto you and your choice. I ain't losing money even even if you buy Nintendo games or download it from internet. I don't own them lol.

https://tenor.com/view/we-good-leland-manigo-rdcworld1-we're-fine-we-chilling-gif-13573619882686112023

[upper fiber]

Sadly most of them, but isn't that extreme you can buy from gog and you own your games no DRM, I wish steam wouldndo the same

[upper fiber]

Thanks for the advice I guess

[indigo grove]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-job-mate-gif-11607609880448062786

[upper fiber]

Well apart of that what news we have of our great anbernic Ds?

[indigo grove]

Gamma OS, hope it fixes software bugs. Also, Russ mentioned Anbernic is looking to fix the top screen issues with their software updates.

[upper fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/big-news-bullish-bullish-af-crypto-fantastic-gif-16753036148370554223

[timber tree]

what a nice series of messages to wake up to 😄

[winged spire]

We can’t ban people for being obnoxious, I’ve asked

[upper fiber]

not even for sucking nintendo tits?

[timber tree]

that would kill 70% of the server right there 😄

[upper fiber]

just 70?

[timid vine]

I too admit the same thing 🙂 no money for nintenscum

[timber tree]

some very special viewpoints in here this morning huh

[upper fiber]

my dog my queen my hero

[timid vine]

The dude was a bit much with his fuck you and omg you pirate no way

[timber tree]

the nintendo hatefucking was also a bit much too though i sympathise 😄

[radiant flicker]

I like nintendo

[timber tree]

nono, you're not allowed to like nintendo on here 😉 😄

[upper fiber]

no way we are pirates, wow amassing i never knew

you can like nintendo but suking the titties of nintendo is a bit much

if nintendo would be thanos we be the first to be vanish

https://tenor.com/view/xxiisoul-thanos-gif-23843096

we are sinner because we play big nintendo balls on other hardware that nintendo dont make

[radiant flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-funny-meme-animal-eevee-gif-14644458658412244393

[upper fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-pet-that-dog-gif-15739057056216911786

[upper fiber]

g99 dont do 3ds? how is because no driver suport the magmy do 3ds

yeah you are rigth what a surprise

[indigo grove]

Thankfully someone whom I can relate with 🥹

Please don't attack me, I love Nintendo that's it. They produced good hardware and software so it's one of the reason I love them. Ofc, they're notorious for their evil deeds but it's them who usually produce good games.

[upper fiber]

nono he like nintendo but you suck the titties of nintendo is a big diference

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[indigo grove]

Everyone here hates Nintendo so that pissed me off. I'm cool now coz I can't change their perspective no matter what.

[zinc patio]

Which is not that hard these days. That Metroid fan game they took down a few years ago is golden

[upper fiber]

hate is a bug word i dont give fuck enough and many here think the same we dont suck or love nintendo if they do good ok they do good but if they do something bad we have no tolerance anymore, because nintendo forced our hand doing many things that are backwards and aren't in the befit of the customer.

[indigo grove]

So does Google, so does multi corporations.

[upper fiber]

yeah and? because of they are big cannot being critic ? the power is in the eye of the beholder my friend and customer are the beholder.

[indigo grove]

You don't criticize them but when it comes to Nintendo, everyone gets wet

[upper fiber]

how do you know that i dont do it? can you read my mind?

[indigo grove]

I'm not talking about you specifically, all people in general

[upper fiber]

you talk big words you tjink you know all about the person that worte things here

you dont know really and treating here all as hater dont make you saint

yuo are a sinner as we are, you are not in any high ground

[radiant flicker]

I like google, I like youtube

[upper fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/high-ground-obi-wan-gif-25596277

[indigo grove]

Congrats you got +100 internet points

[upper fiber]

congrats you get +100 social nintendo score

stop thinking that you know what other person are

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-scurvy-scurvy-pirate-frog-pirate-frogs-pirate-gif-2219050957277757429

[indigo grove]

you stop brigading me

[upper fiber]

oh you dont like it, but you like to do to other

sad

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3530280

[upper fiber]

dont put hackroms @indigo grove gonna cry

[indigo grove]

It was all over until you bring the topic again. I've already thrown this topic out of water.

[upper fiber]

im just waiting what gamma is writing

[halcyon grail]

Ok, so an update:

• I've fixed the 60hz -> 40/30hz drops entirely in normal screen operation mode
• However the issue with frame lag / desync happens with the above.
• If I use my previous workaround to stop that lag/desync, and display both screens as a single unified screen, we reintroduce the 60hz -> 40/30hz drops, but we no longer get desync

I'm working on this so we get the best of both worlds.

Also for clarity, the 40hz issue is a separate issue from the desync. These are actually not related at all.

The desync is screen delay in the top screen, made particularly worse by drastic itself using presentation mode for the second screen. We need to trick it to render to a single screen

[indigo grove]

I don't give a shit what you do whether you obtain ROM legally, from internet or whatever.

[upper fiber]

can you do that a app example drastic trigger the one screen mode?

[halcyon grail]

Will need to find out, no answer yet.

[upper fiber]

mmm

[trail wigeon]

They uhh, should probably cancel this launch and go back to the drawing board lol

Personally I would’ve paid the $150-$200 to get this with a t820 and better screens

[radiant flicker]

then it will not retain this nostalgic form

[upper fiber]

how the thor fix this? because is a android thing ? or is something that is relationship with the anbernic hardware?

[trail wigeon]

Why not?

[radiant flicker]

by adding a big ass fan

[trail wigeon]

The t820 doesn’t need a fan

I have mine turned off 100% of the time

No fan would only matter for a small handful of ps2 games the t820 isn’t well suited for anyway

[upper fiber]

thaey can use a t620 or t618

but still need a fan

and the space is big enough to a fan but i dont know

for sure ia a v2 in the working, is the test rum

cheap enough to sell even with bugs and do a revision with better screen stick and socks

i might get one bause i have a youtuber friend that get for review but i would not buy one if was me.

and if they solve some sofware errors etc i think for most people just for nostalgia sake is still a good enough device in the 90usd

@halcyon grail can you improve the sampling rate of the touch bottom screen or is something set in hardware?

[zinc patio]

Thanks for doing all this work , Anbernic should hire you for saving their devices

[upper fiber]

@halcyon grail https://github.com/Nayemhasan/Increase_Touch_Sample_Rate?

[zinc patio]

Yes but then they would

1 - admit they were wrong
2 - lose money which is harder than admit they were wrong

[upper fiber]

i think they can delay the device admit that are wrong and the comunity would still buying after that

at the hardware lvl they need to solve the heating part thermalpad etc put something and the rest is soft

[zinc patio]

If they did that they would show good faith to the customers tbh I'd buy a revised version of this because it was clearly rushed

[radiant flicker]

just a friendly reminder, this community is tiny vs anbernic's target audience

[upper fiber]

yes but this comunity is some way is Free ads to anbernic

all youtubers

most of tiktoks

etc

we are they advertisement

[zinc patio]

Yes , but we are still customers and it's not just because of us , it's about putting a good product in the market even if it's simple

[radiant flicker]

just another reminder, most anbernic's target audience don't speak english

[zinc patio]

The chinese seemed pretty pissed with them on that forum when Max revealed the chip

[timid vine]

Good hardware and software. Yet the pokemon games that is the highest grossing franchise ever, still gets no voice acting? Aswell as how flat Z-A looks?

[upper fiber]

even the chinnense roast anbernic ins some reviews and the bily bily channels are just bot of English youtuber.

[timid vine]

As well as how badly some of their own games run on their own hardware? 😂

[zinc patio]

The way they're treating their own franchises nowadays ( Prime 4 ) , i think i am ok with Pokemon not having voice acting. There's 90% of chance it will be cringe

[timid vine]

I know MANY who critise Google. I know many with Google phones running a degoogled cfw

[indigo grove]

Pokemon isn't even owned by Nintendo. It's made by Gamefreak and The Pokemon Company to which they share 33% shares.

[upper fiber]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooo stop

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

[timid vine]

I couldn't care less who owns it, it's the game that makes the most Money for nintendo and it sucks

[upper fiber]

mah continue

burn them all

[timid vine]

Zelda botw not holding a consistent frame rate sucked too. Did game freak make that too?

[indigo grove]

and why should I care if I like the game and you don't?

[upper fiber]

fuck nintendo and gamfreak and they lawyers too fuck them all

[timid vine]

Better graphics on games from ps vita from 2012 and you're on about good hardware and software 😂

[indigo grove]

On Switch 2?

[timid vine]

On both switches, there's games on ps vita that look better

[indigo grove]

You love Sony, I love Nintendo, we just are two peas in pods

[timid vine]

Sony suck too

But their games look good at least 😂

[zinc patio]

There are literal mid to late Xbox 360 games with better graphics than the Switch 2

[timid vine]

Oh for sure!

[indigo grove]

It's a tablet from 2016

ofc the graphics won't hold in 2025

[timid vine]

No we're on about switch 2 buddy

Try keeping up

[indigo grove]

Switch 2 doesn't even have games, only two lol

[timid vine]

And yes a tablet from 2016 wasn't able to keep up with games from 2006, correct 🙂

[zinc patio]

Add the cringe overclocked Wii graphics of Bananza to full on hand holding on these games now

[indigo grove]

ohh and you get wet when it comes to emulating switch 1 and switch 2 games

[timid vine]

Pirating switch games is my favourite thing

[timid vine]

Oh yeaaaah

Especially when you don't pay 🙂

[upper fiber]

hey

hey

[indigo grove]

Enjoy

[upper fiber]

hey

https://tenor.com/view/navi-hey-listen-gif-4837431

[zinc patio]

I'm not even going go play Prime 4 but if it's possible to pirate on the Switch 1 i will
Just because

[timid vine]

But nah, with Gamehubs launch, any indie title I was playing on switch emulator, I've moved over to my Steam library

[indigo grove]

yes, it's possible, it's not Switch 2 exclusive

Switch 2 exclusive only have 3 or 4 games I think, DK Bananza, MK Worlds, Kirby Air Ride, and Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment.

I won't count the shitty demo tour xD

[zinc patio]

Doesn't seem very demanding either , it think something like the Odin 3 can handle it once the drivers arrive

[indigo grove]

Switch 2 games?

[zinc patio]

The Switch 1 version of Prime 4 i meant

[indigo grove]

ohh, I think it will run once the emulators fixes some issues.

[zinc patio]

8 Elite just needs the drivers , hopefully early next year

[indigo grove]

The current best chipset is SD 8 Gen 3?

Konkr Pocket Fit one I think.

[tawny topaz]

I don't feel the need to pirate games I can still purchase new, if the game is good enough for me to want to play it then I might as well support the developers

[tawny topaz]

I believe it is the g3 gen 3 which is slightly over clocked or something

[indigo grove]

I'm on original hardware btw

[timid vine]

I'm not paying anything, btw

All that matters to me 🙂

[indigo grove]

do you think that looking at this UI, I'm paying for it?

[warm crest]

Good ol DBI, thought seeing that makes me glad I upped to 512gb

[indigo grove]

Haha yea, I need to purchase 1 TB card soon.

Metroid Prime 4 is a whooping 28 gigs so I don't know what do I uninstall.

[upper fiber]

bnuy sd cards now

ia is fucking all prices

[warm crest]

Think the biggest on mine is either Project DVA megamix or RDR... im guessing MP4 will require the new firmware which currently breaks everything though

[indigo grove]

I think it will work on 20.5.0

[warm crest]

Will see, i wouldn't be shocked if without patching it needs 21... but im not breaking my retroarch, duckstation, mgba etc for it haha

[indigo grove]

There's CFW support upto 21.0

[warm crest]

Yeah Atmos supports 21, but a lot of apps dont yet, they need to be recompiled

[indigo grove]

ohh yea, if you're using forwaders, it's better not to update CFW

[indigo grove]

umm, there's lists on GBATemp ❤️

but incase the update is needed, I think upto 20.5.0, you can get away with retroarch, duskcstation, and such. Only from 21.0, you'll find trouble.

[warm crest]

Yeah ill wait and see, im on 20.5.0 up from 19.0.1 i think i was running for ages...

[indigo grove]

I'm currently on 20.4.0 btw

[warm crest]

I tend to stick with whats stable until it breaks, updated for ZA

Ah wait 20.4.0, anyway its stable and im mostly playing romhacks lately anyway haha

[indigo grove]

Did you played Legends ZA with HD mod? It looks awesome on Switch/OLED

There's even 60 fps patch, it's closer to Switch 2 version.

[warm crest]

Nah I almost had to hate finish it, the ending grind was nuts

[indigo grove]

haha yea, I used 50000 tickets cheat at the end 😄

[warm crest]

I had a level 100 Altaria and then had like.. 8 more nights still to go... wasnt even fun at that point

[indigo grove]

um, let's see with DLC there's beyond level 100 pokemons now. I think it releases mid-December.

Too bad ZA will be the last leak on Switch 1 🙁

[warm crest]

Yeah im actually kind of glad things are wrapping up for Switch, makes life easier when you can just forget about updates etc

[grand sluice]

Damn some spicy discussions today

[indigo grove]

with switch 2 though, there's lots of updates on switch 1

I hope Nintendo solely focuses on switch 2 and leave switch 1 for all good

[distant jacinth]

Rather a spicy discussion than a spicy pillow

[warm crest]

Yeah but once the games dry up, a bit like PSP did back in the day you can just ignore them thankfully, other than online it wont matter

[timid vine]

So you don't buy nintendo consoles and games?

[indigo grove]

I buy consoles it's where I'm playing right now.

[grand sluice]

Kids today will emulate switch on $50 handhelds in the future, gotta push on through life until that happens

[warm crest]

I should note.. While i have no interest in the Switch 2 at this time I actually own a crap tonne of games still, my Main system is clean and my lite is modded to dump game so i dont need to carry carts haha

[indigo grove]

Games, you've seen DBI

[timid vine]

Ah okay so you do pay, gotcha

You don't pay for games?

[indigo grove]

yea, I can't steal physical switch otherwise I'd be in prison

[timid vine]

Ah, so you do pay, gotcha

[indigo grove]

[timid vine]

Guy in my area with a van full of em seems to have avoided prison thus far

But that's besides the point 😂

[warm crest]

I mean I'm sure we're all good honest people who pay $300 for a used copy of pokemon black / white before we install it on devices like this >.>

(I actually think I paid $25 from cashies....)

[indigo grove]

I bought v1 switch back in 2017 and it's working quite well till now

[warm crest]

Yeah its wild I paid less for my v1 switch before covid than they sell for now brand new...

[indigo grove]

umm, wild times ahead. and with Nintendo being the one who started $80 trend for MK Worlds, I don't know where video game prices are heading in future

[warm crest]

Think I bought mine late 2018 for $329 with MK8.. JB has a black friday sale with no game for 399...

[tawny topaz]

I got a copy of Heart Gold for like $5 from a second hand store

[loud yacht]

Gotta love tariffs.

[tawny topaz]

Probably my luckiest find

[warm crest]

Ah $389 in 2018... still cheaper than it is today haha...

[loud yacht]

Honestly, gotta give credit to Nintendo for keeping the price of the Switch 2 the same.

[indigo grove]

what an awesome find.

[tawny topaz]

They also had a copy of black but I left that for whoever found it next

[indigo grove]

The one time I got lucky was when I bought v1 switch (that can be modded) back in 2017 came up with Super Mario Odyssey cart. I only paid like 250 bucks 😄

[tawny topaz]

Nice

[loud yacht]

Since that somehow isn’t something that Sony or Microsoft thought would be worthwhile enough to do for their current consoles.

[warm crest]

I don't think I'm ever topping my N3DS, no box or charger.. $79 from cashies like a month after launch , they had no idea what it was and were selling it as a normal DS

I sold my launch 3DS for $120... bought all the faceplates on clearance for $10 or less, but sadly didnt keep the packaging..

[tawny topaz]

Sheesh

I'm still looking around for a n3ds that isn't like $450 cad

3ds prices in general make me sad

[indigo grove]

3ds prices have skyrocketed. Before COVID, it was like 100 bucks all over eBay.

[tawny topaz]

But the n3ds is the worst due to the limited NA release

[warm crest]

Yeah its wild how much they jumped, along with the 2DSXL... Oh actually my biggest markup was I got a GB Micro on clearance from Kmart for $10, wish i bought one in each colour but my mum refused...

Actually think the other colours were $20, pink was $10.. But yeah got a new official battery for my n3ds recently... Went into nintendos warehouse to do it, then without realising the worker was like oh let me take it out back to screw the faceplates back on for you... they wouldve seen the luma screen and the HB apps

I would joke about sitting on a housing deposit in nintendo games... but like Australian housing, it wouldnt even make a dent...

[indigo grove]

Now, RAM prices are following N3DS suit. I fear SD card prices might rise soon. I need to act fast and purchase 1 TB soon.

[hybrid walrus]

Don't bother, anbernic already fixed it according to their chiness Youtube channel

[halcyon grail]

ok GammaOS cancelled

[hybrid walrus]

I'm doing you a favor. Dont support something they should have done it in the first place

[halcyon grail]

👍

[jolly radish]

Can’t do dual screen

[jolly radish]

Why? When he does it for free. Note I do think not compensating him for his work is disrespectful and them being an asshole

[hybrid walrus]

Look at his patreon. He's earning 5k per month from tbhat alone. Talk about side income

[halcyon grail]

5k a month?

LMAO

🙂

[timber tree]

my sweet summer child 😄

[jolly radish]

I don’t like that the community has to step in and fix their shit

[hybrid walrus]

Its more? Ok

[indigo grove]

someone is getting jelly that he has stable income

[hybrid walrus]

Dont need to flex

[halcyon grail]

https://tenor.com/view/counting-money-curtis-james-jackson-iii-50cent-21questions-counting-cash-gif-17901348

[jolly radish]

Nah he can flex all he wants

[hybrid walrus]

Chinese make good hardware but trash software. Just look at iphones. Made in china but Os from usa

[timber tree]

i forgot how much i missed this one

[jolly radish]

He deserves the bragging rights

[halcyon grail]

so it's less than 5K lol, actual supporters are a lot less.
but that's not the point here, I'll work on what I want to, no point telling me not to

[jolly radish]

I see you haven’t used iOS 19 26

[distant jacinth]

Nostalgic really

[jolly radish]

Be grateful he does actually do this

Or better yet. Learn how to do it yourself

[hybrid walrus]

Its better than any android.

[jolly radish]

No, no it is not

[halcyon grail]

I'll review this after the display

[jolly radish]

Android and iOS have their strengths and weaknesses

[hybrid walrus]

Heck, chinese phones use android which is made by google in the first place. The chinese simply do not have good software engineers

[jolly radish]

Being a fanboi of either is stupid and a lack of intelligence

[hybrid walrus]

Chinese still uses android which is made from USA

Even huawei is using android for fucks sake

[timber tree]

yeah best to ignore that one, bit of a 'wheel spinning but the hamster died long ago' thing 😄

[jolly radish]

Hamster turned to dust

[halcyon grail]

going back development now

[hybrid walrus]

You can easily boost up those numbers by using hot AI girl pics/voice changer. Easy

[brazen osprey]

[jolly radish]

Surprised you haven’t hit the block button yet @halcyon grail

[timber tree]

yeahhh sadly that one decided to come back 😄

[hybrid walrus]

Any tom dick harry will literally throw money to a hot girl who can code

[distant jacinth]

<@&907746402191413258> Rule 1 sexism

[brazen osprey]

nice reminder by discord lmfao

[indigo grove]

[hybrid walrus]

When you do generate an ai girl, just make sure huge boobs. Easy money

[ornate osprey]

Rule #1 @hybrid walrus

Treat everyone with respect. Absolutely no harassment, witch hunting, sexism, racism, or malicious trolling will be tolerated. It goes without saying that there should be no political discussion, this is a handheld gaming server.

[rare lodge]

ahem so rgds looks to be going well eventually

[distant jacinth]

I hardly think it's on-topic to discuss the RG DS in this here RG DS channel

[hybrid walrus]

I mean who doesn't like boobs. Its sustainence for humans from crib to grave.

[rare lodge]

does anyone know if it could play ps2 decently?

[jolly radish]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

[brazen osprey]

cps2 it can

[fast mantle]

Timed out for a day, I want to enjoy my turkey

[jolly radish]

It’s barely better than an H700

[rare lodge]

i see....so barely ds and under eh?

[brazen osprey]

yep

[rare lodge]

i can at least play smash 64 on it i guess

[jolly radish]

Enjoy your turkey, you’re nicer than me!

Trust me he’d be banned in my servers for being an entitled twat

[rare lodge]

he was asking to get in trouble

[zinc patio]

Bro is really hating on a guy that works on improvement our gaming experience, for free

[jolly radish]

Don’t bite the hand that feeds you

[rare lodge]

is gamma android or linux based

[jolly radish]

Android

[rare lodge]

ahh so it might be like over top the official one or something?

[jolly radish]

It’s based on Lineage

[rare lodge]

oooohhhh

[jolly radish]

Haven’t used it yet, but everyone loves his work and praises it constantly

[rare lodge]

is there a lionk to his site or something?

[jolly radish]

I’m personally waiting on the 476H version

[rare lodge]

is there a flip 2 version lmao

thats my main rn

[jolly radish]

https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze

If there is it’d be here or on Gamma’s patreon early

[rare lodge]

it says planned thats good enough for me

looks really snappy and bloatfree

[wraith snow]

literally everybody would but for some reason Anbernic was like "no, that will never work"

[rare lodge]

theyll make a revision like the cube xx but the opposite way

[warm crest]

Nah they'll surely do an RH476DS eventually right?

[jolly radish]

RG Slide DS

[rare lodge]

heck no

[distant knot]

I wonder if I can cancel my cancellation

[warm crest]

I mean.. it might be unwieldy but.. from an eye comfort perspective dual 4.7" screens would be great...

[wraith snow]

don't expect Anbernic to make sense in their product launches lol

[distant knot]

I really want this thing but everything looks awful so far

[wraith snow]

welcome to the club

[rare lodge]

2d ds games run fine tho right thats all i really play for ds anyway

[distant knot]

I wonder how Metroid prime hunters runs in it

[warm crest]

I'm starting to fear the DS market will be a bit like the GC / PS2 market was for ages where the "goldilocks" device either never comes or comes too late to care anymore.. at least for me

[distant knot]

That's not a 2D game, and the aiming in the 2nd screen with delayed response on the top screen is a big test

Apparently I can't cancel my refund so I got my money back, ordered mine through aliexpress cus they got financing plans

[rare lodge]

that game is a prime example of the worst end of the disappointment

[zinc patio]

Yes but this would be nice and they don't want us to feel joy

[rare lodge]

one day we'll have the ultimate device guys itll happen

[distant knot]

I felt joy with their rg34xx and 35xxsp, what went wrong with this one

[warm crest]

I was so sure the 476h might finally be the one for GC / PS2.. then it gimped the processor...

[rare lodge]

my ultimate might actually be the ayn thor tbh and then i might be done besides pc/steam games

[distant knot]

I'm now considering the ayn thor

Not a fan of the speakers not being on top

[rare lodge]

its just the ayn thor will take longer to get delivered prob so imma get this first while waitin on the thor

[indigo grove]

wait, can't 476H do full PS2/GC library?

[trail wigeon]

It can do a LOT but those libraries have some problem titles that are way heavier than the rest

[formal grove]

Not upscaled.

[trail wigeon]

And yeah for some reason people think “can’t upscale” means it can’t play the games lol

[indigo grove]

I'm fine with native also

[trail wigeon]

I prefer it tbh

Upscaling render res while keeping textures and 2d assets/UI etc the same looks really bad to me

[formal grove]

Some games will give the T820 fits and will need underclock (talking PS2). If you don't like the underclock for some stuff (like the Jak games), look for something more powerful.

[upper fiber]

dont read this person @halcyon grail, is just a troll a nothing burger

[indigo grove]

What about Sly Cooper games? The notorious ones?

[jolly radish]

Oh the power of that missing comma

[upper fiber]

if you need help doing research i would help

[clever storm]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-mario-movie-dies-of-cringe-dies-of-gif-26891981

[formal grove]

Oh, and forget about running the Snowblind games. About the only Androids that can crank those out more or less reliably are SD8G2 or stronger due to the need to brute force around emu bugs.

[wraith snow]

lmao

[indigo grove]

ohh, it's fine with some nitpicks though. If it can emulate 80% of library, it's worth

[upper fiber]

lmao what?

[formal grove]

(Hopefully that new Android PCSX2 build will help out eventually, but it's definitely not there yet so you're stuck using nether/aether.)

[indigo grove]

What about GameCube titles?

isn't it easier than PS2

[upper fiber]

gamecube is easy

[formal grove]

Should be mostly okay with Gamecube (except maybe those two traditional problem games), but as I give no fucks about Gamecube games I will leave it to someone else who has a T820 and does. 🙃

[indigo grove]

haha fair enough 😄

[clever storm]

As it supports custom turnip drivers

[upper fiber]

maybe the new emulator improve that. the last update wuold support turnip

[trail wigeon]

I expect if anything the better/more accurate emulator to have higher system requirements

[wraith snow]

iirc it's speculated that it'll be possible in the future to do some sort of arm recompilation (ala Drastic) that would in theory make it more performant than aethersx2 on Android

but it's unclear if that will come to pass

[warm crest]

I mean as you said yourself it can't handle heavier titles, and is it wrong to want one that can do upscaled when you have a nice screen for it... Like if I want to play native resolution and looking slightly vaseline smeared i'll just boot my actual slim up.

Either way, a GC handheld that can't handle F-Zero flawlessly is a pointless handheld to me regardless

[grand sluice]

or, you know,** get a job** so you don't have to go looking at people's income lmao

[grand sluice]

this is exactly why I'm clueless as to why people want to upscale 3d games on RGDS

native reso pre-rendered backdrops with 2x 3d models is 🤮

[warm crest]

Upscaled Mario Kart looks way better imo

[trail wigeon]

PSP at 1080p is my worst enemy

[warm crest]

2x I feel is a nice sweet spot for the majority of 3d capable systems... It crisps things up without being too jarring

[trail wigeon]

I would agree with that

[grand sluice]

sm64ds too, but maybe they are making use of 3d models on most background assets? that's why they dont look as bad

[trail wigeon]

I personally do 1x with a crt shader for ps1 but 2x still looks “right” to me

4 or 5x ps1 with geometry correction etc just stops looking like ps1 and that’s sad

[grand sluice]

try radiant historia at 4x, man it is jarring af

[warm crest]

I wish duck stations widescreen didn't break so many UIs, CTR and Gran Turismo look great at 2x widescreen on switch

But yeah recomp projects with super hi res N64 can end up looking weird heh

[grand sluice]

this is how pokemon ZA looks like

[cunning turret]

Esp with a lot of sprite characters. 2x with a good shader is usually what I use.

Gives it a nice texture while still being more readable.

[tawny topaz]

The cactus looks so weird

[stable jewel]

Hey can I get some of that cabbage?

I got needs Gamma

[grand sluice]

this is very evident with VNs. try Persona 3 Portable on PSP upscaled, it's mad ugly even at 3x. Almost unplayable without shader

[warm crest]

If you mean the right image yeah the HD texture pack is a bit... Jarring

[halcyon grail]

https://youtu.be/86_E1b9V02U?si=ahMeJmkcDaTOGTwD

[stable jewel]

HELL YEAH

Half going to the kids 529 accounts

Half going to my egg expenditures

[halcyon grail]

Y'all are missing out

[warm crest]

I swear they changed creme eggs in Australia... They used to have a different texture like the image there... Now they're like fondanty

[halcyon grail]

No context

[hazy zephyr]

is the d-pad clicky like the RG34 and35 SP ?

[timid vine]

Ow snap I didn’t know gamma os was on other handhelds

I been under a rock

[upper fiber]

Santa is cooking early this year

[timid vine]

Time to see if mangmi air x is on the gamma list

[fierce cave]

https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze/GammaOSNext/releases/tag/v.1.1.1-MANGMIAIRX

[halcyon grail]

yes, but it's not hard to press

I find the buttons comfortable

shoulders are loud, you won't get away with playing this in bed next to the wife

[grand sluice]

christmas is saved

[upper fiber]

Wife ? We are lucky if we have a cat in this economy

[timid vine]

Thank you! Just noticed a video went up too on it. It's my brothers first device (mangmi) so will be nice to see performance differences

[ionic jasper]

You forget the RG 552

[ionic jasper]

Or a mouse

[charred lava]

All I needed to hear

[upper fiber]

Or a dakimakura

[trail wigeon]

You guys aren’t forming polycules just to afford rent?

[upper fiber]

you guys are forming? im just farming gatcha games

[formal grove]

Some of the specific cases I am thinking of (Snowblind games like Champions of Norrath) are the emulator shitting itself causing slowdown and eventual crashes. A lot of that did get fixed eventually, which is why I'm somewhat hopeful for that new PCSX2 derivative for Android. Won't probably make the games that much more playable on T820 (although not crashing would be an improvement), but it should make it work a lot better on an Odin ...

[trail wigeon]

Yeah right now ps2/gc and up are PC systems for me which is why I love the t820

[ebon knot]

Just delivered, right while I'm mid-way through my Odin 3 review

[charred lava]

Nice

[vague jetty]

I saw that and was confused, maybe he has 2x 3d (high res 3d) enabled or something?

[wraith snow]

welcome to 4 days ago, you are gonna love it if you keep scrolling

[vague jetty]

I actually was scrolling upwards

[wraith snow]

then you skipped too much

[cloud saffron]

and you felt the need to respond to an old post why?

[vague jetty]

Because it's still relevant?

[cloud saffron]

its a chat room not a bug that guy about something he said 4 days ago

pretty safe to assume he might have read it by now

[vague jetty]

I didn't ping him

[cloud saffron]

replies ping

[vague jetty]

It's context

no they don't if you turn off ping

[sinful hearth]

There's no @

[vague jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/ogvhs-the-more-you-know-tmyk-more-you-know-knowledge-gif-18199480

[vague jetty]

On the lower right side of the text entry.

[hasty grail]

anyone know if custom robo works on here?

[urban oracle]

I figure it should. Haven't seen a single game tested so far that hasn't

[urban oracle]

Honestly I'm still really hyped for this device

If anbernic is already working on a fix for the top screen desync, GammaOS also has a fix coming soon for it. That's my only problem with the device

[upper fiber]

Hotness

Is My problem

[urban oracle]

I will do something about the heat

Even if it is just a little heatsink

I won't go as far as to add a fan until I get to test it out and see how bad it gets

[upper fiber]

V: I think doing anunderclock using gamma because is roted

Would solve it

The SOC is a overclock of a chip

[bold wharf]

If it gets Rocknix, it has 3 levels of cpu undervolting. It really lowers the temps.

[upper fiber]

Doing like a 5% overclock

[urban oracle]

Yeah, can't wait to see how much clearance we have and what will fit inside

[upper fiber]

Might not solve the overhead

If you can do a undervolting that is better

[urban oracle]

Yeah, help with battery too I bet

[upper fiber]

But never is good put the SOC at the limit undervolting anunderclock %5 and termal pad+ copper tape and solved

To us is like 10usd fix to anbernic 1usd

Unless you have the copper tape and thermal pad

[bright pecan]

What if the thermals we're seeing is with the chip already undervolted stock by Anbernic, though?

[bold wharf]

It's not. They're using the stock values that are on the high side.
Gamma posted the dts dump here.

[upper fiber]

Nah they not using a custom they are using the high normal of the SOC dictate be Rockchip

They not even do with his h700 they would not do it with this sock. Underclock and undervolt is not as standard depends of every singular SOC

A user need to do it or custom firmware

[charred lava]

That just makes me more excited lol. Means that it can fixed.

[upper fiber]

If anbernic have more thant a monkey In software developer that is a lot

Not even powkiddy have bugged software as anbernic

[zinc patio]

The p0rn hub tab on one of their devices though 😆

[bitter stone]

Yeah either they fix it or we beg gamma to finish faster despite being extremely busy 🙏🙏

[rare lodge]

well i just bought one i hope its good lmao

[lucid yacht]

I hope they fix two major bugs with the top screen, at the very least. Then it'll be good.

[ionic jasper]

Imagine getting this for Xmas

[lucid yacht]

Don't gift it to rhythm heave fans, that's for sure

[warm walrus]

Honestly? I’d be pretty happy if somebody gave me this.

[halcyon grail]

Making progress slowly but surely

I'll let you guys count the frame lag

[lucid yacht]

Nice, I don't think lag is even there now. Looks like 0.5 frames, maybe less.

[lethal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/djd5005-dj-khaled-dance-gif-21937832

[upper fiber]

Now we can play to ds game at the time v: haha thanks gamma

[upper fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/launchpad-mc-quack-ducktales-ducktales2017-counting-wait-a-second-gif-7423545429413783705

[wraith snow]

I counted 0 frames

if there's lag it's impossibly difficult to see

[jolly radish]

This is amazing!

[thorn iron]

someone give me this for christmas

[upper fiber]

Your wallet

[indigo grove]

ETA PRIME has a giveaway for Anbernic RG DS if you want it for free and test your luck 😜

[thorn iron]

i need snake to get it for me for xmas! i can't imagine

[jolly radish]

Given the vitriolic review that Russ gave it I wouldn’t be surprised if he gave his review units away

[bright pecan]

I mean he'll probably keep at least one in storage in case the situation unexpectedly improves

He'd still need a device for the review proper if he does end up deciding to do one, after all

[jolly radish]

They sent two

[upper fiber]

i wiiss to my friend youtube that they send two

[jolly radish]

I doubt they’ll send more than one review device to smaller creators

[upper fiber]

let me dream

my friend is nearly 100k

[wraith snow]

https://www.youtube.com/live/n-rRDBtU7EQ?si=iuzCm847XtQr2spQ

[brazen osprey]

huh, i thought you couldn't have games on top with bottom screen off

[oblique estuary]

that is indeed what the reviewers said

[brazen osprey]

it seems he was just playing a ds game that has the bottom screen off most of the time for some reason

[distant jacinth]

I caught the last 40 mins or so. Gonna watch the VOD timorrow. That Call of Duty DS game actually looks fun lol

[deft panther]

I'm looking forward to playing Metroid on this beauty.

[charred lava]

@lethal sundial wanted to mention but I came in late but you could try the drastic fork, has a good amount of fixes of the software side

[vital mural]

Im probably gonna wait for discord sale on this thing. I kinda doubt many people will be happy with this thing lol

Still be fun to at least try it out

[brazen osprey]

i think i will be content with it

i wanted to be happy with it but that went out the window with 480p

[wraith snow]

that fork just fixes touch on the Thor and adds cropping to the bottom screen, but it's nothing to get excited about, doesn't fundamentally optimize or change the emulator, just some minor hacks

[charred lava]

fore was talking about some UI jank of drastic during the stream

[wraith snow]

ah

[vital mural]

Im certain something much better for the price will come out probably with an allwinner A133

[charred lava]

Thats what I mean by software

[wraith snow]

that might be fixed on the fork sure

[vital mural]

If something pops up for 50 to 60 bucks tho ill take it

[wraith snow]

if you are willing to wait sure

[vital mural]

Honestly ds will probably work pretty good on my rg 477m. I keep forgetting that. Especially since its a 4:3 screen

Just would have to live without the icon screen / map screen which normally isn't to big of deal

Tho dual screen would be more nostalgic

[wraith snow]

I mean of course, any single screen device will do DS if you are ok with switching screens

[vital mural]

God i just wish this thing could run melonds damn it

[charred lava]

Why would you want a worse chip?

The A133 in the TSP is absolutely less preformat than what's in here

[charred lava]

Personally the physical dual screen is the main draw

DS is my least emulated on these SBCs cause I hate switching screens

[brazen osprey]

yup

[vital mural]

Hmm I genuinely thought the a133p was better considering it ran most of dreamcast for me on my magicX Zero 28

[charred lava]

No this chip is stronger

The issues it's having is not related to power

[acoustic shell]

yeah this thing kind of sucking at dreamcast is some weird software issue probably

or well, I think dc is just better in linux

[cloud saffron]

A133P sees most of its gains in android due to having a newer vulkan implementation

[vital mural]

Ok that explains it, thanks for clarifying

[cloud saffron]

or maybe not apparently rk3566/68 also have vulkan 1.1 thought they were 1.0 for some reason

could always be whack drivers

[charred lava]

Yea I was gonna say

I was sure they had the same support

[cloud saffron]

could always be allwinner/powerVR put out good drivers for android
kinda doubt it but never know
A133P I find punches above its weight in odd ways if you work with it

[charred lava]

Also at least for me

I've never gotten Vulkan to work well on the A133p devices that I own

[cloud saffron]

its busted in linux

try on gamma its fine there

it was always been a budget tablet chip I think the linux build is just hacked together like most of these things

[vital mural]

Im having trouble getting rid of my zero 28 even tho I have my 477m beast. It just does what I need to do in a small form factor

[charred lava]

My small factor device is the 34xx sp

I just like clamshells

The miyoo mini flip is too small tho

[vital mural]

Magic x breeze/ dawn firmware is actually pretty decent. Some prefer it over gamma apparently for some reason

[lethal sundial]

exclusive content

[upper fiber]

Hottie

[deft panther]

yeah... playing solatorobo, 2x res, fastforward on

better than expected

[sinful hearth]

I've caught up with nearly every discussion about this device now

Now I'm just ready to see what it feels like my own hands.

November feels so slow

[deft panther]

Now I'm sure it's more than enough for me. I hope they send mine quickly 🤣

[grand sluice]

Honestly not that bad

That’s just resting crotch temperature

[formal grove]

Would have been perfect if it was 39.5C ...

[stoic laurel]

i don't see any issues with the gameplay, especially for that pinball game

[strange oak]

do you guys think anbernic is gonna fix the issues with the device before they start shipping on Dec 15?

[sinful hearth]

They were working on fixing the screen issue at least

[sinful hearth]

_ _

[wraith snow]

some of the issues yes

all of the issues no

[thorn iron]

anbernic? no

gamma? pray to your gods

[strange oak]

hopefully gamma can save it because I don't wanna cancel my pre-order

pretty disappointing from everyone's reviews so far from what I can see

[swift echo]

i lwk just want a budget one for like 3ds without going into ayn thor category

but i am looking forward to getting an ayn thor soon

[sinful hearth]

Thor seems like a safer bet overall

[swift echo]

yeah

[sinful hearth]

Someone else could easily steal the spot for best budget dual screen device after this though

But for now this is it I guess

[swift echo]

yeah bro

i wont pick this up

theres issues w this

and like battery dont last that long

[sinful hearth]

I'm mainly just getting this for tinkering purposes

I still have a new 3ds xl that works

[swift echo]

i can get a 3ds xl for like this price

[sinful hearth]

The funny youtube and game selling point can only take it so far

[swift echo]

yeah thats it

[charred lava]

I've said this before but for DS specifically I don't like DS on a 3DS XL

This device will look cleaner

[swift echo]

yeah but hundred dollar doe

but im not gon get a 3ds xl

[charred lava]

Well sure I suppose

[ocean moss]

Fwiw ANBERNIC confirmed to me that they are looking to fix the screen problems reviewers have found. "We are trying to fix this issue currently"

[zinc patio]

The issue is that a lot of people want this handheld to fail. If they fix it , it will be great but the bandwagon hate will be hard to save it.
There is justified hate towards it too , which is ok

[halcyon grail]

Now with less Discord compression
https://youtube.com/shorts/r7CUEiKJ1ao?si=djkk6OZ4LmZFG0cE

[jolly radish]

What the hell? That almost feels like a good sonic game

[junior rapids]

Once it's fixed in gammaos, how long til the fix appears in anbernic stock one ?

[grand sluice]

question, why would you need stock then if gammaos exists at that point?

[junior rapids]

The majority of buyers won't be flashing to another os, so still critical for the fix to be implemented in stock

[timber tree]

i mean we shouldn't have the stock experience being this shit in the first place 😄

[radiant flicker]

pretty sure anbernic already has a fix in a bilibili video somewhere yesterday

[shy skiff]

@halcyon grail on your latest video, how much input lag did you measure for both screens respectively?

I assume top is 150ms. Bottom is 133ms?

As per you said regarding 1 frame of lag, 1 frame =16.66ms

[urban oracle]

Where did these numbers come from?

[shy skiff]

Assumption from their other devices

That's why I'm asking

[urban oracle]

Okay

Thought I missed something 😅

[wraith snow]

as a sonic rush fan, this looks beautiful

[urban oracle]

They already fix it????

[lethal sundial]

I'm updating to the reviewer build here (I had an earlier version) but they told me another update is coming

[urban oracle]

Oookkkk

But it's good to know they are working on it

[upper fiber]

[wraith snow]

still shipping before end of Nov?

[sharp scaffold]

nah. win600 is still pretty good functionally. BlissOS(android), batocera/ubuntu/bazzite(linux), and win10 keep it alive. It's just an ergonomically unlikeable console for most people

[lethal sundial]

let me check again tomorrow, haven't heard anything

[wraith snow]

nah it's good @lethal sundial I'm just messing around, it's evident they are not making it this month

maybe they decided to push it back a bit so they can ship it with the fixes

[brazen osprey]

my purchase on aliexpress said releasing on dec 15th from the start

[distant jacinth]

I'm thinking this yeah, which tbf will be a good thing

I'm sure they'll still make their 15th Dec date, but yeah the rumoured "by end of Nov" thing prob died when they started fixing the 40hz issue

[brazen osprey]

i'd rather wait yeah

[stoic laurel]

so all the panic was a nothingburger

[deft panther]

My hope of receiving the RG DS before Christmas is gone, so I don't mind if they want to delay it for another month, as long as they guarantee they'll refine the software and deliver a product without those desync issues and maybe improve the bottom screen's TSR (for me, it's not such a significant problem).

[stoic laurel]

its like when you preorder any game and do open beta testing to find half of it is a buggy mess, and like a week later, fixes arrive. 'my character has no face when i choose hair 7'

or 'all the grass is floating a foot off theground' (eyes pokemon scarlet)

[urban oracle]

Yeah, if the top screen bug is fixed, this device is perfect for me

[stoic laurel]

i have a feeling some gamers just laugh off the bugs and keep playing, while others immediately drop the product.

[pearl flower]

The vast majority will be fine with what they get

Vocal minority and allat

[thorn iron]

everyone wants to like it and the hardware actually looks good but they also want to influence anbernic into doing better

$50 for oled minimum 720p or no buy!!!

[urban oracle]

I think this device is B tier

It's perfectly good

But price should be like $10-20 cheaper, screens don't integer scale

[thorn iron]

hardware looks a tier software looks z tier

[urban oracle]

It could be better, but I think this device is good enough for what it's trying to do

[thorn iron]

but software you can always hopium

[bright pecan]

hardware is c- tier at b+ pricing

[thorn iron]

pricing is included in tier consideration already

[urban oracle]

Yeah. I think when this thing can be picked up for like $70-85 on sale or used, with fixed software or GammaOS, this device will be a steal

[thorn iron]

my tier list is one of those japanese ones that goes to SSS

it was available for a brief moment at $70

i think you can still get around that but you have to burn your paypal pay in 4 discount

[urban oracle]

Ahh

Worth it though

[thorn iron]

nah

[urban oracle]

I'd be all over it for that

[thorn iron]

you can get a 5080 for $600 or less with that discount

[halcyon grail]

I didn't actually go through any tests on input lag yet, I may do a simplified one where we just turn the led on with the button press and see how quickly we react on screen

[radiant prawn]

I asked a couple days ago, and they said "next week" ymmv

[halcyon grail]

I will let you come to your own conclusions, I have made a video capture at 240FPS: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JkqYKpaVbVSQInal8CvZ28p2Opy3Haqp/view?usp=drive_link

What you're seeing here is the attached C program in action.

• The application opens the retrogame_joypad input device at /dev/input/eventX and the three LED brightness controls under /sys/class/leds (battery_charging, battery_full, low_power).
• It blocks on read() for controller events; when it sees a key-down event for a gamepad button, it immediately writes 1 to the LED brightness files, waits a fixed short period, then writes 0 to turn them off.
• Because it uses direct kernel input events and direct sysfs writes (no polling, no sleeps before LED on, no extra layers), the LED turns on within a few milliseconds of the physical button press, effectively giving a “ground truth” hardware marker for input timing.
• In my test, I record both the LEDs and the display, then use RetroArch’s frame counter to see how many frames elapse between the LED turning on (button press moment) and Sonic actually jumping on screen.
• With RetroArch configured for low latency (no run-ahead, Vulkan renderer, threaded video off, audio sync off, swapchains = 2), the delay I measure in frames is dominated by the emulator + video pipeline + display, not by this LED app, so the frame count you see largely reflects real end-to-end “button to on-screen action” latency.

I count 5 frames between LED on and Sonic jumping, May also want to consider that the game itself has 2 frames of lag: https://forums.libretro.com/t/input-lag-compensation-to-compensate-for-games-internal-lag/15075/8

Hope that helps, that is all the testing I intend to do on this front. To go any deeper will require specialist hardware, not looking to do this.

[thorn iron]

android forces triple buffering right? so this is considered pretty much expected?

[upper fiber]

Crazy the Thor how many frames have in the same emulator/games?

[edgy mica]

Anbernic will never improve their software if the community keeps doing that job

I believe joey brought that up too

[timber tree]

They're unlikely to improve their software regardless

[edgy mica]

They would if they released a handheld that doesn't get support from the community and dies

[timber tree]

You have more confidence in them than I do then 😄

[charred lava]

nah I think they would just let it die and move on to the next thing

[sinful hearth]

Given how many devices they have, I believe it

[distant jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/live/BRqljf3mTqo?si=LYRcWhiRw6M8ftea

Pokémon Moon running shockingly okay lol

[jolly radish]

I am beyond grateful for everything people like @halcyon grail who spend their time to do Anbernic’s job in fixing their software. But @edgy mica is right. It shouldn’t be up to them and their generosity.

[charred lava]

i mean

i'm excited for gammaOS on this but

we already know anbernic is working on fixing the screen issue at the very least

[jolly radish]

Don’t hold your breath on that being anytime soon

[wraith snow]

this is legit a cool way to measure input latency

first time I see built in LEDs actually serve a useful purpose

[charred lava]

I dunno I actually expect it before it reaches the public

Forethenext already said anbernic told him a second update is coming

#1385011384307421224 message

[sinful hearth]

Impressive for what it is

[distant jacinth]

Yeah i thought it was be single digit FPS. He said he's seen a few 3DS games do that though

[sinful hearth]

Makes sense

Not really expecting radiant historia to be that hard to run

I think it's nearly all 2d?

Could be misremembering

[distant jacinth]

I think you're right yeah

Not played it myself, always meant to, not sure what they changed for the 3DS remake

The thing is it's using Azahar and that stutters no matter what, even on the Thor

[sinful hearth]

Hm, I see

Never got into 3ds emulation myself

Oh the environments are 3d

[edgy mica]

Have to wonder what settings they're using

[distant jacinth]

1x, vulkan, right eye rendering disabled (tho i don't think that matters for pokemon moon cause it didn't do 3d anyway)

He showed the settings in the stream before he started playing radiant historia

The stream's still on, he's starting miitopia

[sinful hearth]

Interesting fellow

[distant jacinth]

The mod in the chat says that's an anti-piracy feature

[wraith snow]

prolly needs Azahar Plus to work around that

[charred lava]

That or link up to a real 3ds with regular azahar

[drifting laurel]

Nah

[distant jacinth]

Animal Crossing running close to full speed too. Can't believe this is doing 3DS so adequately

[halcyon grail]

Cursed

In reality, that 1 frame of lag is not really noticable in real life

[distant jacinth]

Soundtrack to a horror movie

[upper fiber]

Man that looks wonderful

[wraith snow]

yeah that looks great to me

I think you'll go insane chasing down that last one frame

(two days later: "Ok I'm now down to negative 1 frame of delay, need to figure out how to make it slower")

[sinful hearth]

Do apps just spread the display by default if they don't support dual screen? I'm still curious as to how that works (assuming it can also do that on the stock OS)

[halcyon grail]

this is a bespoke solution only to GammaOS, apps must be put on a whitelist for this mode

[wraith snow]

by default on stock you'll just get the app in one screen and nothing on the other screen

[sinful hearth]

Hm, I see

[urban oracle]

3ds pokemon is all that matters to me when it comes to 3ds

Never played gen 6 or 7

[thorn iron]

someone start a 3ds compatibility sheet for this device

[urban oracle]

If you posted that Livestream in any other channel, they'd literally try to tell you any excuse how it's impossible for the RG DS to run pokemon moon. Even when the vid is right in front of them

[urban oracle]

Facts, we need that

[formal grove]

This runs 3DS more or less like T618 ran PS2. (Maybe a little better than T618 runs PS2...)

[urban oracle]

Somebody needs to test PS2 on this now

[deft panther]

on reddit and youtube, they are starting to say rg ds can't even play ds games

[formal grove]

I tested PS2 on an RG Arc D. You could play Persona on it, but not much else. This should be similar.

[urban oracle]

They are saying that in this discord server

Like in #🔥│upcoming-chat

They get so mad when someone brings up the RG DS

[urban oracle]

I mean that's a W. Maybe some really light games like kingdom hearts or sonic riders

But yeah not a PS2/GC machine

[edgy mica]

So anbernic is leaving performance on the table?

[deft panther]

Man, I'm so happy it can run Animal Crossing New Leaf!!! It's my favorit 3ds game ever!!!

[edgy mica]

New leaf and dx are my favorite animal crossings

[deft panther]

so they were not lying at all, the rg ds can run some 3ds games! It can run the most important one for me

[grand sluice]

before I bought an RP5, some people used to say it can't run PS2 games therefore it's shit

I tried it, and it cant run ONE ps2 game I threw at it: SOTC

lmaoo

haters will find new things to hate after one is fixed/addressed

i'm sure after the 40hz issue on RGDS people will find another reason to hate on it

maybe the polling rate issue Russ pointed out, idk

[wraith snow]

sonic riders is definitely not a light game lol

[urban oracle]

I thought it was, ran better than anything else on the rbg10max3pro that I had

[wraith snow]

nobody said that, the consensus was that the RP5 is decent at PS2

[wraith snow]

must be an outlier then

[grand sluice]

Nah fam, haters on facebook were yelling SD865 is only good for GC and plays half the PS2 library before it came out

[cloud saffron]

we call them boomers

[charred lava]

Wait hold on

Could RetroArch work with this?
Like have the game render on the top screen like usual but the actual RetroArch framebuffer? also be accessible for the bottom screen.

I'm getting ideas to port my MagicZero 40 overlay to this thing if it does

Also thinking about it enable the NooDS emulator to get around the fact that is single screen only

I'm genuinely getting very excited now

[charred lava]

this is what i mean by the way,
on the zero40 i made an overlay via the Retroarch touch overlay system that mimic the 3DS virtual console. you could touch the buttons and do the things it said.
but since retroarch is single screen only I didn' think I could port it to this.

[grand sluice]

Exciting tbh, if it renders as a single screen it would probably work

[hazy zephyr]

I've heard the same about RG477M

Even heard from a known youtube chanel on handhelds that won't run GoW2

[shy skiff]

that's awesome. tested both methods
I used the counter and got a constant 5 frames. And got a 80-90ms of lag when counting it and multiplying to 4.1666ms(240fps camera)

so its 83ms of lag for bottom screen

@halcyon grail would love to test the top screen too. I assume its 1 more frame so that's 100ms for the top screen

[shy skiff]

could you teach us how to the the LED for RG35XXSP and RG34XXSP. would love to test it on the "unofficial" 120hz screen

LED mod i mean

[pallid grove]

Yeah there seems to be a concerted effort by reviewers and certain people in the hobby to take down this device for no reason whatsoever.. I seems like snobbery. Just an opinion but it’s easy to shit on the $100 affordable option as a reviewer when companies are sending you free $300+ devices on an almost weekly basis.

Idk how many people have aggressively told me to buy the Thor instead online. I’m not spending $300+ on a handheld I have to configure myself. Let’s be real these “gaming handhelds” are all old phone parts basically glued to gaming controllers. The companies don’t even put in any effort to make the devices work out of the box you have to download ED-DE or whatever front end yourself. In edition the power you are paying for is only useful if there is games to run, Eden, RPCSX, Vita3K, GameHub, etc. are all in beta so your basically just buying the worlds most powerful PS2 and some lofty promises.

This is the ONLY device that comes with dual screens at a reasonable price point unless you buy original hardware. It’s honestly impressive they were able to make this device at this price point considering no other company could/would do it.

No affiliation or special love for Anbernic just a proponent for devices that are realistic and have an obvious price to performance and value goal. Too many of these companies just shove the highest spec components they can into some plastic and sell it for the highest price they can get. If you’re buying a Chinese android handheld for as much as a steam deck you made a mistake.. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[radiant flicker]

I like Anbernic

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-mushroom-dance-gif-11846709049893854538

[zinc patio]

They should just pay Gamma and ship this thing with GammaOS already.
Idk , i think it's much better to pay a dev which is milk money to them and have a product with solid software than having a DOA hated device.

[sinful hearth]

It would certainly save the trouble of having to get it set up

[edgy mica]

Yes, but sending devices with broken software to reviewers doesn't help them

[pallid grove]

Did you read what you wrote the whole thing is defending Anbernic lol

[pallid grove]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-8063259

Retroid and Ayaneo send devices with broken software to paying customers let alone reviewers on a regular basis lol

QA is not strong with these companies 😂

[zinc patio]

" Perhaps nobody will notice it "

[sinful hearth]

A nostalgic 2005 dual screen platformer:

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-future-trunks-super-saiyan-frieza-freezer-gif-4812210421901335082

[zinc patio]

" People will buy them regardless " and they are correct

[ebon knot]

Time to see what the fuss is all about, out of the box

[oblique estuary]

i'm curious if it can run super lightweight visual novels in gamehub...

[bright pecan]

There is no concerted effort, this is just Anbernic getting burned by the backlash of their own marketing. They let the hype build up setting expectations they knew they would underdeliver on ("sub-$100" -> $99.99 before storage card and shipping, showing 3DS gameplay in their marketing material when they and anyone else paying attention knew damn well that the chip they were using would have a single digit game compatibility list with 3DS, and for that matter letting hype build up around which chip the device would have only to end up with the one revealed being bottom of the barrel), and sent over review units with multiple critical software flaws, something they could and SHOULD have addressed before getting this thing out of the door. We're not talking obscure problems here, this is stuff that would have been noticed by anyone the moment they started playing games on the device.

I am more than happy to recommend cheap devices, the BatleXP G350 is one of the best value handhelds around and it's made by Anbernic hiding under a trenchcoat. The RG DS just isn't one of them.

"This handheld should be able to play the games from the system it was clearly designed to be a dedicated device for flawlessly" is not an unreasonable expectation, and the RG DS didn't meet it, it's not surprising that people are going to call out Anbernic on it. And this isn't the first time either, see the RG ARC, Anbernic's 6 buttons handheld that cannot play the full Saturn library flawlessly (or even in a playable state at all without tinkering). And don't try to tell me the target device for that thing was supposed to be the Sega 32X

It's almost certainly still going to sell well (you can hardly beat "this is literally the only device in its category on the market at this price point" as a marketing argument) but the device could have, and should have, been better than this.

[timber tree]

should have been so much better than what we currently have 😄

[bright pecan]

Also I'm not sure where this "no effort to make the devices work out of the box" is coming from, most devices I've seen made a good faith attempt at getting it as ready as possible without making assumptions about what the user is going to be doing with their device. AYN and Ayaneo devices come with a perfectly serviceable launcher, everyone goes for ES-DE because people prefer it to the stock option. Hell, even Anbernic eventually fixed the catastrophe that was their stock OS on the Linux devices, now the stock vs custom OS choice is between good and better rather than garbage and good.

[lethal sundial]

3ds is better than expected, I think more games will work

[bright pecan]

I have no expectations that 3DS will work in any capacity on this device, and in a saner world no one would because that's not what this device was designed for, but Anbernic's marketing department just had to fuck it up for everyone else

late 2000s/early 2010s mobile games that just happened to have a 3DS port running acceptably fast on the device does not make it 3DS capable.

[lethal sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/live/BRqljf3mTqo

I'll put the timestamps in shortly

or later today

[junior rapids]

Does any other devices have this issue with FPS counter in Azhar?

[lethal sundial]

they aren't going to make end Nov, that's all I got for now

anything I say regarding dispatch should be taken as unofficial - officially the dates are on Aliexpress/anbernic.com

[grand sluice]

Ah yes the famous dual screen BatleXP G350

[bright pecan]

Something that would be useful to have for reference would be a "crash-test" list of games that very much aren't expected to be playable on the device, things like racing games (Asphalt 3D, MK7), fighting games (SSB4, Super Street Fighter IV 3D) and action games (Monster Hunter comes to mind).

Who knows, maybe there are surprises in there

[bright pecan]

...Where did I say the BatleXP G350 was dual screen?

[grand sluice]

We’re comparing value for money here, in that line of thought you could have suggested steam deck instead

[bright pecan]

The Steam Deck is good value for money, I figured that was irrelevant to mention to someone talking about cheap handhelds.