Mangmi Air X

[fallen fjord]

[vagrant seal]

Haha true

[wild lodge]

Okay maybe it’s a bit more than 3

[bitter bough]

True Words.

[fallen fjord]

But I also disagree

The hobby isn't that for everyone

It's a hobby of fomo for the people who feel the need to buy everything when they see it

[crimson forge]

Did they fix the non 60hz screen for stock os?

[vagrant seal]

I think it's also just how capitalism and consumerism makes people act 😦

[fallen fjord]

Likely not the case at the moment

[fallen fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-gif-21320565

[vale minnow]

Apropos of Nothing: whenever I read one of Galvatron’s posts, I read it in Leonard Nimoy’s voice.

[vagrant seal]

Haha nice

I need to watch the original movie again

It's been awhile

[vale minnow]

You got the touch! You got the POWAAAAAAAH

[vale minnow]

Same actually.

[stuck pasture]

Yeah this is what I have been thinking. They wanted to make sure to have time to manufacture a ton of units so as soon as they sell them they can start shipping them as opposed to taking pre-orders and then taking months to get all those orders sent out. I definitely think that's the better route to go than the latter.

[sullen silo]

Yeah, but that doesn’t resolve the problem, and we aren’t just talking about hype, this launch have been so delayed than we already have competitors… like XU Retro

I’m waiting for more specs about the H50 now, and one month ago I was only looking to get the mangmi

[bitter bough]

I was in the same spot as well, Mangmi and Helegaly were the only 2 devices I was excited about a couple months back.

But After their botched launches, Now there are so many new ones on the horizon that those have taken a back seat.

[sullen silo]

Yeap, thats it

[turbid plaza]

So basically all those devices are fighting to be the heir to the TSP.

[rancid grail]

We can all say RIP

[fleet forum]

If people were smart no one should be buying Linux devices until early bird ends.

At least not the $60 - $100 ones, they have to drop so much in price to be relevant

[turbid plaza]

Linux devices ?

Do you mean people banking on the Air X getting Linux support ?

[proven flower]

I think he means that the current Linux devices aren't really relevant while the mangmi has its early bird price

Which I think already ended anyway?

[turbid plaza]

I don't think you can order the Mangmi yet.

[tough blade]

closer to the end of the month i believe

[slim warren]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-movie-james-cameron-western-gif-17538858

there's always new handhelds on the horizon...

just buy what works for your needs at the time

[turbid plaza]

Not a bad recommendation but it's a bit more complicated when you're not a reviewer with new devices coming all the time.
Not trying to start a fight, just pointing out that people have limited budgets and sometimes waiting for something else may be more financially sound than just buying something "at the time".

[tough blade]

It would be easier if T618 Devices came down In price again 🤣

[bitter bough]

Tale of Two Cities on this Discord

[slim warren]

Are you saying that looking at your options based on the current situation is not ideal? There are many devices under $100 currently on the market. If someone can't wait until mid-September for this device, then the only other option is to explore what is available right now. This has nothing to do with being "a reviewer with new devices coming all the time". I'm giving advice that seems quite realistic.

Now if the reason is due to limited budgets and the solution is to wait for other options, then I'm not understanding the problem here? Mangmi said mid-September for sales, let's wait until then?

[turbid plaza]

Let's say you only have $100. Your choice is to buy whatever exists now that checks 75% of your "requirements", or to wait a bit until the better $100 gets released, and that one checks 90% of your boxes. In the meantime you don't have a device and you can't play, so it's a matter of pure patience. And of course, better devices come out ALL the time, so you'll never be able to settle on the perfect toy, but the 90% device is still 15% less frustration than the "now" device.

Even though it may not look like it because your viewers and the people on these servers seem to be as much collectors/hoarders as actual retrogamers, for some of them even 100 USD is sort of an investment. That 15% less frustration can go a long way if you only have one device and you don't plan on replacing it any time soon. It's a better long-term investment : you must wait eg. 2 months but you'll keep the device 2 years so it makes sense.

The reviewer mindset (and I'm not singling you out here, I like your videos) is a bit of a double-edged sword : of course you want to give honest recommendations in the here and now, but very few of you think of the devices as investments. Which they are for a lot of people. 🙂

[graceful olive]

I think the point a few of us are making is that if Mangmi would have released this globally in June, their sales would have been higher than releasing mid September. So many more direct competitors just within 3 months. Nobody hating on Mangmi. But that's just how the market is.

Timing absolutely matters. That's a why AYN choose to release Odin 3 at same time as konkr. That's why Anbernic rushed the rgcube out to compete with A1 unicorn

[slim warren]

I think we're arguing two very different things here. 😅

[turbid plaza]

That's entirely possible, I've had a long day and may not be as coherent as I'd like.

I'm just saying that what you said sounds like "don't look at the future, carpe diem", which I disagree with.

(And again, you're not the only one to say it.)

[slim warren]

No, I'm saying that everyone is upset with Mangmi and doesn't want to wait but then wants to wait for the next thing? I'm confused.

[turbid plaza]

Oh sorry, I was only disagreeing with one specific comment. I'm not particularly upset with Mangmi. 🙂

[tough blade]

Mangmi Air X is a Great Device, it's gonna be amazing. I think people are going to be very happy once it releases. They just don't know it yet

[slim warren]

That's what it was in relation to. Basically, if someone can't wait any longer, which seems to be the biggest concern/issue with the Air X. Then, I was suggesting to explore the other available options currently.

[turbid plaza]

My bad, I thought you were talking in general.
Cheers. 🍻

[slim warren]

The reality is that you will be waiting regardless whether it's for this or an upcoming device from XURetro

[wild lodge]

Man I’d love the XU30 H55 to complete with it, but these colors are ass

[tough blade]

Assuming they release a good product after a Bad start with the XU20

[slim warren]

No, if someone came to me and said I want a device for the next two years I'd not recommend any of these realistically. 😅

[wild lodge]

There’s definitely been some hiccups with that launch

[tough blade]

And the Last one, and the 1 b4 that.....

[weary hare]

every magicx / xu product has had a problem at launch unfortunately

[turbid plaza]

Has there been a teardown of the Air X ? I'm interested in the build quality.

[wild lodge]

It’s decent for people just getting started in the hobby.
And something you’d wanna recommend over a TSP with cross mix preinstalled for a premium

[tough blade]

2 & 3 look good

But are done to death

[wild lodge]

No transparent option either

Even though their transparent colors look beautiful

[tough blade]

I know, big sad there. Love my Transparent options

[turbid plaza]

I've had a few bad experiences with handhelds where random things broke (shoulder button, face button, screen/board connection) and they tend not to be massively repairable, at least at a reasonable cost. The plastic they use seems to be very brittle and some of the connectors are just badly soldered. 😐

[tough blade]

That sounds like "Game Console", Anbernic 1st Batch, Miyoo, etc.

[turbid plaza]

TSP, x55 and MMP actually 😕

[tough blade]

For the Next 2 years Reccomendation, would you Reccomend a RP5, AYN O2? Or something less than those 2?

[tough blade]

Miyoo was 1 of my Named ones

And yes, PowKiddy has a ton of Flaws as well. Hit or Miss real hard with them for sure

[slim warren]

I'd say Odin 2, it's crazy how good of a value that handheld is. The only benefit to the RP5 is the OLED screen.

[wild lodge]

I‘m not the tech daddy but that pocket fit base model looks kinda sexy

[turbid plaza]

The Odin 2 seems quite good, it's a shame it hasn't come down in price.

[wild lodge]

G3Gen3 for under $300 could be seriously good

[slim warren]

the next wave of devices are even crazier value

Both Odin 3 and Pocket Fit

[tough blade]

I been Rocking my Rp4p since March 2024. I reckon I can make it to Mar h 2026 for the full 2 years

[wild lodge]

Makes me really wonder how cheap G2Gen2 handhelds will be

Like there no space left in the 250-300 range anymore

[wild lodge]

So you still got the extended trigger warranty, nice

[tough blade]

And a Spare Back Plate as well

[sick crown]

I should get a tsp again

[turbid plaza]

I honestly think that the highest tier Odin 3 (Ultra, with 24GB RAM and 1TB storage) and the lowest tier Pocket Fit (3g3, 8GB RAM, 128GB storage) are pretty good deals.

[wild lodge]

banned

[sick crown]

Not from a reseller lol

[wild lodge]

They are. Odin 3 value is kind of veiled for the time being.

[tough blade]

The $240 for the Pocket Fit is awesome, Downside is the LCD but at least it's 144hz

[wild lodge]

Eden VMA update has to drop asap, not sure about custom driver support though

[tough blade]

But at least it comes in Yellow

[wild lodge]

Well probably see another portal by then

[wild lodge]

I guess lcd is nice when you like overlays

[sick crown]

Both the odin 3 and konkr are really appealing but I just want a pocketable elite

[wild lodge]

That’ll only work with a flip I’d say

[tough blade]

I hear Phones have that Chip, and they have Phone Controllers that clip together to fold smaller for storage

[turbid plaza]

My reasoning wrt the Odin 3 Ultra is that to be able to fully use the SD 8 Elite, 16GB of RAM make sense, and 1TB of storage is not insane when you know very well that you will want to use high-end stuff on it that takes gobs of space. The price difference between the Max and Ultra costs around the same as a 512 GB SD card, so by taking the Ultra and NO additional SD card, you effectively get 8GB of added RAM for free.

[wild lodge]

You need to teach a certain threshold to make the 8 elite worthwhile. That thing needs a big battery and fan to support it

[sick crown]

Yeah with the mcon plus redmagic 10 pro I could get close, only thing holding me back is the 10 pro stability doesn't seem great, and no sd card slot

[turbid plaza]

The Konkr 3g3 can actually make sense with 8GB of RAM, so the lowest tier at 200€ looks very good.

[wild lodge]

12/256 g3 Pocket fit is the sweet spot

[tough blade]

No argument on the "No SD card Slot" part. But at least it's Pocketable

[turbid plaza]

Quite possibly true. 🙂

[wild lodge]

As true as no one wanting to talk about Mangmi in this chat

[turbid plaza]

(Of course I'm using Indiegogo prices ; retail prices may change the equation.)

[turbid plaza]

Don't worry, a lot of people aren't talking about it on the Mangmi server either.

[wild lodge]

They left there server to a volunteer to manage

[sick crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-25352670

[slim warren]

🤣 🤣

[turbid plaza]

@slim warren After using the Air X for some (short) time, what do you say of the ergonomics and the build quality ? I don't remember seeing anything about it on your two videos.

[slim warren]

The ergonomics are really good for me. The device is nicely balanced and lightweight with the grips at the bottom corners that make it nice to hold.

I'd say build quality is better than expected at the price point. The only thing that feels cheap to me are the shoulder triggers, but mostly the plastic.

[turbid plaza]

Thanks.

Shoulder triggers are not great on a lot of handhelds, it seems.

On the x55, the RG-556, RP5 and… the Switch Lite, they could be vastly improved, IMO.

Don't know about the Odin 2 and other horizontals.

[slim warren]

The nice thing is that they are actual triggers, which is a bit unusual for the price segment.

Usually they're just buttons

[slim warren]

good 'ol X55, sounds like I'm banging on drums 😅

[turbid plaza]

It was my first handheld. Really really unreliable.

[final stag]

The x55 had enormous potential in terms of performance, but the factory firmware ruined everything

I wonder if powkiddy will recover or give up

[vagrant seal]

powkiddy just does powkiddy things

probably somehow release the best handheld ever randomly then 10 shitty ones after that

[turbid plaza]

No, I was talking about the hardware. The software can be changed, Rocknix works pretty well on it once it boots (no guarantee) and now even GammaOS is a possibility. The hardware is pretty much set, and apart from actually replacing entire components… it's just not very good.
The one redeeming aspect is the shape, which feels pretty good in hand. The rest of the ergo is trash.

It's typically the kind of handheld I would never recommend to a newcomer.

[turbid plaza]

That's what I heard several people say, yes.

[turbid plaza]

Just for context, now they're talking about breakfast food.

[bitter bough]

It looks like PowKiddy has shut shop.
Heard they got raided by their government.
Might have been for sailing the high seas.

[glass patio]

Rip

[smoky lichen]

Powkiddy is dead? Wow.

[muted jasper]

Website is still up, only change is they don’t ship with ROMs anymore.

[vapid rapids]

Rubbish. I ordered from them and had a trimui hammer delivered days ago...

[final stag]

https://youtu.be/U8mcf8HY-Q0

[cerulean haven]

Ha, gotta generate some sort of content, anything’s fair game at the moment

[turbid plaza]

I'm not complaining but you have to admit that the hype has fallen down a bit. 😄

[vagrant seal]

Sometimes happens when different companies launch products around each other.

Good for the consumer.

[bitter bough]

Biggest understatement on this Discord server.

[cerulean haven]

Yeah, I think it’s a combination of the delay and new shiny things. But I have no idea of the effort required to globally launch a product (local regulations, certification etc) and perhaps it’s been a learning experience for Mangmi too. First device we can forgive it. If they turn into Analogue and are very late, every time, I think they burn any goodwill

[bitter bough]

Rumor is we can place orders on the 15th

But hey don’t quote me

[muted jasper]

You gave the false information that powkiddy has ‘shut up shop’ when they haven’t at all, just selling devices without the ROMs. I will not take anything you say seriously ever again.

[bitter bough]

They’re not making any new Linux devices and have scrapped their current ones

[bitter bough]

Like I said it’s a rumor so take it with a grain of salt

[weary hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_xoYjyb6Y

[muted jasper]

Pretty bad rumours champ…

[hearty heath]

So, who's gonna buy the MANGMI Air X and what color are you gonna get?

I think I'll go with the white one. Don't have too many white devices, but a lot of retro gray ones. Black is mostly boring to me, don't really prefer it.

[sullen silo]

Retro one

I like the white version, but the orange on shoulder didnt stick with me

I never have owned a retro color handheld

[weary hare]

Probably white for me

[rancid grail]

It's already dead!

[final stag]

yup, they lose hype train like always, common company trouble

[hearty heath]

Yeah, typical Chinese colors, right? Like all the Xiaomi household devices.

[rancid grail]

For me it was already dead before the release.

[sullen silo]

Thinking more about this, I dont complain about the dead hype, makes more easy to get the early bird price 😄😄😄

[slim warren]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-1-fourth-wall-4th-wall-controller-healing-gif-2620872575683585227

[cerulean haven]

Being relatively new to the Retro Console arena I can only go by my experience on the mobile phone side, and big gaps between Asia/Worldwide releases are generally the norm for the non-giants

And saying that, even Apple don’t get it right. I tried to order the 17 Pro Max today (don’t judge me) bang on “pre-order o clock” and had to wait 6 minutes before my previously configured pre-order to load, by which time I couldn’t select to collect from store on release date, and could only get it delivered in 3 weeks time. (Net result, I didn’t order… am going on holiday release day +1 and wanted it to play with the new zoom camera)

Long story short - does anyone actually get coordinated global releases right?

(Honest question, like I said, I’m pretty new to this hobby)

[bitter bough]

This is expected to release on Monday

[fleet forum]

*speculated

Still no official word from Mangmi themselves

[proven flower]

he didnt say which monday

[tough blade]

Oh God, not another Miyoo Situation.....

[marsh blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-dog-traumatized-gif-10801559770686219962

miyoo ptsd

[steep robin]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c3gGuaauWOc&lc=UgzA9LPYg0-_6y0cuaZ4AaABAg&feature=shared
Russ made an update on his review saying Mangmi did some fix already, like the screen refresh rate being correct 60hz now

[tough blade]

The fact that it had to be corrected to 60hz is...concerning

[turbid quail]

Kind of the bug was only on RetroArch, at last was fixed

[marsh blaze]

the fact that this happens all the time and its rarely noticed you mean?

[tough blade]

A little bit yea lol

[marsh blaze]

wasnt it the 477m recently that had a similar but worse issue took about a month before anyone noticed

anbernics only been making devices for over a decade now

[tough blade]

When people push, Max Zhou loses his mind and flips out lol

[distant copper]

No news on the release yet?

[bitter bough]

Almost there

[muted jasper]

In other news powkiddy is out of business 😂 what other tales are you going to tell us? Keep the comedy rolling in….

[vale minnow]

Just gonna leave this here….

https://youtu.be/XRikkJl86oc?si=p2gAV03ocpRHGa8f

[final stag]

i hope someone do video with old x86 stuff on it

ps2 games which runs horrible, can be playable on it (many tests with 662-665 exist) even silksong should be playable 30 fps

[scenic verge]

this thing is still going? I thought the ogu/10max3pro-tier power put it down for the count

[turbid plaza]

Well right now it's still not yet going. 😄

[frigid cloak]

Honestly, XU H50 looks more interesting, maybe it will have worse build quality but it should be more pocketable (0.5" smaller screen;)) and stronger, both things make it a more interesting for PSP

But if someone looks for a cheap streaming device Mangmi could be a better choice

[turbid plaza]

What Mangmi should do is help Linux development on the Air X.

It would be an excellent Portmaster device.

[dusk stirrup]

an excellent Portmaster device would have 4:3 screen

[turbid plaza]

Actually I think you're mistaken. Most Portmaster games are actually 16:9, and display with black bars on a 4:3 devices.

Right now the best Portmaster handhelds are the mid and high-end RP5 (SD 865) and Odin 2 (SD 8g2) but below those prices, there just isn't much there in 16:9 aspect ratio. AFAIK the the only devices under $100 with Portmaster support (or potential PM support) are :

• PowKiddy RGB10MAX3 / Pro
• PowKiddy X55 (luck of the draw : some units have only 1GB of RAM, which sucks for some Portmaster games)
• TrimUI Smart Pro (64-bit games only because the 32-bit libs are not available)
• Odroid Go Ultra
• GameMT E6 Plus / Max

All of those are (relatively) lower-end handhelds, with an RK3566 SOC or equivalent.

The Mangmi Air X is not considerably more powerful but it has 4GB of RAM and a Snapdragon SOC with possibly good support.

[drowsy meadow]

The RG34XXSP should get an honorable mention for having 2 GB RAM and being a dual stick PM device with something closer to a 16:9 ratio

[turbid plaza]

Oh yeah sorry, you're right. I didn't think of it because 16:9 games are tiny on the screen but from what I heard then do work pretty well.

[turbid plaza]

It baffles me that Anbernic didn't make an h700 variant with a decent size (4 or 5 inches) 16:9 screen and 2GB of RAM.

[fallen fjord]

I did a topic on this exact thing a while back. With the RGB10 Max 3 being my preferred Portmaster handheld at the time.

With so much 16;9 content and a need for more performance in some situations, that has changed to the RP Flip 2, but if the Air X manages Linux as well that could change again

[drowsy meadow]

I think the RG34XXSP was a fluke

[fallen fjord]

They probably just wanted to use that screen for something else

[turbid plaza]

You mean the 2GB of RAM ?

[drowsy meadow]

Yeah. Otherwise I think they would have released the Pro with 2 GB as well since they released around the same time

Sorry, "Pro". It's a nice device, but doesn't deserve that name

[scenic verge]

the main issue with this is its competition is already out and established and it's trying to do something new enough to pull fomo-buyers

emulation handhelds have already plateau'd, so that's a conundrum

[sullen silo]

With all the problems on XU 20 V32, Im gonna wait on XU 50 to see if it have any major problems

[cerulean haven]

Rocknix team has a device and will hopefully make progress, then Portmaster team can tag in

[frozen crown]

Posted new Ali coupon codes #1374058516284706928 message

[drowsy meadow]

which problems? the button issue they can mail you a replacement part that's pretty easy to put in, and they released a firmware update that fixes the screen blank problem

[sullen silo]

These problems even with this solution is not great for the reputation of a brand. In my country for example you have to pay taxes for every package that enters, including the replacement part.

[drowsy meadow]

every brand has had its share of problems, never a perfect device

[sullen silo]

Thats true

But I’m gonna wait for the launch and for the first batch to arrive to see if its worth

[cerulean tulip]

They sent units to the Rocknix team a while back.

It's getting released this week ^⁠_⁠^

[bitter bough]

Yes, It looks like it's definitely releasing this week.

[turbid plaza]

I heard that about rockets and "not exploding".

[muted jasper]

I see that you are now hedging your bets now 😂

Your insider info timeline:

1. powkiddy is out of business
2. Air x orders will start Monday
3. Air x orders will be this week.

[bitter bough]

The site code was hiding the prices for the 64GB and 128GB card options $92.99 and $105.99 respectively for early bird.

[cerulean tulip]

They literally said it in the discord, it's this week.

[muted jasper]

Farhan is the one that keeps on guessing information, just go back and have a look. I’m just calling him out.

[glass patio]

Farhan really lives rent free in your head huh

[muted jasper]

Na, just not a fan of people that make stuff up to get attention.

[zinc elm]

Latest powkiddy console v90s released in May, and now is already September. For company that releasing frequently budget consoles and compete with other brands, in current state it looks like out of business anyway

[muted jasper]

They are just having a nap, they will be back in time for the holiday season just like in previous years…

[slim kestrel]

actually it's a middle finger to the miyoo flip v2

2gb is the nail on its coffin

[zinc elm]

Will be back to business in time:)

[slim kestrel]

Powkiddy completely removed games from their consoles already. You can only order their devices with 16gb os cards.

[scenic verge]

and you believed them. hoo boy

[muted jasper]

Yep this has been mentioned. This is also a good thing.

[slim kestrel]

Only happened because they got raided last week

[muted jasper]

The ROMs off the SD cards have been like that for over a month now…

It was reported on the RHH’s podcast what feels like 6 or so weeks ago.

I’m calling out your fake news 🗞️

[slim kestrel]

On their tiktok?

I just bought 6 devices with sd card from last week.

[turbid plaza]

You… you may need to see a doctor for that. 😄

[slim kestrel]

I just need to see ban's collection

[tough blade]

You may be 1 of the few people on this server to be able to recognize every device he shows off

[obtuse phoenix]

👀

[slim warren]

https://tenor.com/view/lwts-lets-go-gif-25090667

[obtuse phoenix]

heh just go the bootloader working. What a PITA, hopefully now kernel wont be too hard

[vestal vigil]

Always awesome to see you guys unlock the bootloaders (and potential) of these things as they come lmao

[cerulean tulip]

what are you doing?? I'm curious.

[marsh blaze]

afaik SD662 is supported on linux mainline
so technically you could get a modern aarch64 linux kernal running on it

[ivory kettle]

poorting rocknix to it, obviously

[turbid plaza]

-# *cough* portmaster *cough*

[round quest]

Finally a new Linux handheld... kinda

[scenic verge]

he's in the GRUB. its a precursor to multibooting os's

uh.... sudo apt update + apt full-upgrade -y?

and see how much deadware gets brought up to speed

[quick heart]

Well, Mangmi took too long and lost my money. I was absolutely going to purchase the Air X as soon as it was available, but in the interim I got very taken in by Russ and WulffDen's videos about Steam gaming on Android, so I decided to up my budget and I got an RP5. Sorry Mangmi! Still very excited about the Air X though, it's exciting to have devices like this in the budget range.

[fleet forum]

It is funny that between announcement and release people have time to save up money and get a better device that's available now

Anbernic would never give you that time

[sullen silo]

Exactly

For most people on developed countries, the difference of 90USD to 200USD is minimal

[quick heart]

I already had the money, it's more that I wasn't sold on spending the cash for the RP5 until I saw Russ and Bob's vids on how well Android is playing with Steam these days.

[sullen silo]

In Brazil is a huge deal, is like going for 30% to 40% of the minimal wage to 60 to 100% (because of tariffs)

[fleet forum]

Mangmi gave people way too much time to think about it.

If you look at Anbernic from announcement to release is about a couple of weeks.

[sullen silo]

Yeap

And anbernic already have a aliexpress channel, if mangmi delays too much, I think Im gonna get the 476h

[heavy halo]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fleet forum]

Yeah, this is more about Mangmi milking the hype for so long

[turbid plaza]

True but there are a lot of enthusiasts around here, people with a lot of disposable income. I'm pretty sure that for them, the question is not "does this handheld make sense" but "I have to get one, which one do I get this time". In that kind of situation, a $100 handheld is not much different from a $200 one, and with the Odin 3 / Konkr Fit and whatever else coming out, the Mangmi is still just one handheld among many.

Note that I'm not disagreeing with you : it is indeed a good value for the price, if you know exactly what to use it for (and people who do tend to have more than one handheld anyway).

I think the fight is more over the mindshare than the actual value.

[round quest]

I admit, I'm still here mostly because unlike most of the other Android handhelds that got announced, this one actually HAS a chance of getting Linux. Also, I admit, I'm in a situation where the difference between a $90 handheld and a $200 one IS quite a bit

[sullen silo]

I am as well, but for some people mangmi has taken too long to actually launch the handheld

[round quest]

Given that the Linux handheld market has gotten even more stagnent, I admit I'll take what I can get, heh

The XUs admittedly are outclassing this, but the chances of them getting Linux are admittedly lower

[compact wolf]

....at one point you gotta consider what is so wrong with this device that'd have them miss the hype train this badly..

[marsh blaze]

not having enough stock and selling out on taobao before global launch (idk if thats what happened but its possible)

[compact wolf]

well

if that's the case at least it's good for them I guess

🤣

[marsh blaze]

afaik it went on sale there last week and they apparently sold into the hundreds pretty fast

[compact wolf]

at one point they could totally have played the same scarcity marketing card miyoo played a few years back

now I wonder if it'd even work

[turbid plaza]

People don't seem to be weary of it. 😐

[marsh blaze]

I might just get one I've got magicX one35 money in my pocket and they're stalling even worse

[turbid plaza]

I totally understand. Maybe my argument was not very well put.
Let's say that Mangmi announces a $90 handheld in August.
You save money for it and you have the $90 in August, but Mangmi sets the release date for September.
Now you wait some more and maybe are able to save some more money until September, but in the meantime, Ayaneo announces another handheld that is much better, costing nearly triple the price… but that you might now be able to get at about the same time as the cheaper Mangmi, and you've set aside more money than the initial $90.

For anyone able to save money overtime, the value proposition slowly gets less interesting the more release dates slip.

Do you want a pretty good $90 handheld now or a much better $250 handheld in a few months ? 😄

[loud stone]

That’s also assuming it won’t outright stay around the cheaper price range and only jump to like $120 the most.

(Or if the Konkr has shown anything, they might outright be pricing it less than $102 on the base model for retail).

[turbid plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-future-difficult-to-see-future-yoda-training-gif-1692448634681694511

[scenic verge]

"enthusiasts" are nutters who don't play games

[sullen silo]

This is so right, and you dont even have to get a lot of money, if you save 60$ more, you get a RP4 Pro that plays almost all the ps2 games and more…

[turbid plaza]

Be that as it may, we're talking about Mangmi's marketing tactics, and enthusiasts are a big part of the market. A big chunk of the retro handhelds scene is basically marketed to 35-50 year-old men who want to quench their nostalgia by buying devices they don't really have the time to play. 😄

I'm not being judgmental, btw ; it's just the very likely truth.

[glad escarp]

I find that the new devices coming out now all look very modern and quite similar to each other, without any retro feel at all. At the very least, they should have designs that resemble or evoke the old consoles. It would be more fitting to call them phones with built-in controllers

[marsh blaze]

less glass fronts more game and watch stamped metal

[muted jasper]

I agree, I’ve bought one grass front device and sold it. Not buying another one.

[cerulean haven]

https://tenor.com/view/i-feel-personally-targeted-attacked-wow-big-mouth-netflix-gif-15432996

[slim kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-brooklyn99-insulted-insult-slap-gif-16736769

[dense rover]

I'm still not in my 30s yet... x)
Yet I somehow feel like this could be true for me later down the road LOL

[turbid plaza]

TechDweeb got an update and posted screenshots in the Mangmi server.

#1348906403716268086 message

(Software update to the OS, not an update on the release date)

[dense rover]

It's supposed to release this month, right?

[turbid plaza]

"Mid-September"

[dense rover]

So ideally sometime between now and the end of the month

[turbid plaza]

Pretty much.

[dense rover]

Not too bad.
One of my nephews' bday is coming up next month I believe, and my older brother and sister-in-law both were looking to get something like this to get for both my nephews that can play N64/Dreamcast and below.
It's between this and the Air Mini now, but very happy we're getting devices like this under 100 soon

[turbid plaza]

Same here, I'd get one for my niece.

(and people wonder why I say most customers are middle-aged 😄 )

[dense rover]

I'm still in my 20s, so I guess I'm part of the exceptions? Haha

Then again, not long before I hit the 30

[turbid plaza]

Getoff mah lawn, ya cantankerous youth 🤣

Honestly I don't know the actual demographics of the hobby.

But most of it seems to be marketed to the 35-50 crowd.

[dense rover]

I'm finding that more and more people actually know what I'm talking about irl when I mention anything like emu handhelds, so I think it's becoming a more known thing at least even with the younger adults

[turbid plaza]

Really ?

[dense rover]

Yeah, surprisingly

[turbid plaza]

Interesting.

Where are you ?

[dense rover]

I live in Florida

[turbid plaza]

I'm in Paris, France. Most people I show mine to seem to think they're some kind of knockoff Switch.

[dense rover]

Huh, might be a Europe vs USA thing? Idk how well-known the hobby is over there.
But it seems to at least be somewhat known here in the US with people that are around my age and younger

[turbid plaza]

I have a friend who grew up in Jacksonville… from her tales and photos, I'd like to visit someday. 🙂

[dense rover]

The U.S. is by no means perfect (far from it), but it has its positives and share of beautiful locales and areas

[turbid plaza]

I've only been to Austin, TX and crossed NM and hiked a bit in Colorado.

Yeah, a lot of people are conflating some of the more… err… debatable US politics with its people and its geography.

It's inane, but… well, idiots abound. 😄

As I said I've only been in the south to visit friends, but I'd like to go and see the "touristy" USA at some point.

Got friends in DC, Milwaukee and Portland, so a road trip should be organizable.

[dense rover]

Hope you enjoy the sights here when you visit again
I want to travel to Virginia again like I did in 11th grade when I went on a trip to Washington D.C.
Virginia was really gorgeous last I went

[turbid plaza]

https://www.dangerous-business.com/west-virginia-road-trip-itinerary/

Yeah, I'm not jealous at all. 😅

Damn this is West Virginia.

OK OK the other road trip photos in non-west Virginia are about as gorgeous.

[heavy halo]

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[bitter bough]

https://youtu.be/C8nJCGoQdqg?si=FP5hGvUNO5HiY4ue

[glass patio]

cool, we just need it to come out now 😄

[weary hare]

it is available to order in China for $85

[glass patio]

true tho most of us arent in china 😄

[distant copper]

Still waiting for that email to get that 5$ off the early bird price...

[regal bay]

Wasn't this supposed to be released mid September??? What happened?😲

[final stag]

price drop ig

after market changes

[regal bay]

It got cheaper?

[final stag]

i think yes

[regal bay]

It's already cheap enough, they don't need to make it cheaper 😅

[final stag]

they need

we got Air Mini for 70$ 😄 with G90T which is much more powerful

also Dream 1 XU will out for 66$ with G85 soon, more powerful too

so yea, imo they need decrease price to compete

[regal bay]

That honestly looks interesting!
But if it only were a bigger screen!😣

[proven flower]

This does have the fact that it's 16:9 going for it, it'll be better for psp than anything else coming out around this time and price point

[proud arch]

there are 3 mid tier android handheld range from 66 to 90

1. cheapest
   XU retro dream1
   3G/32G
   g85 chipset ( slighter faster than s662)
   4 inches screen 4:3
   best selling $66 for all retail unit
   problem is 4 inches 4:3
   psp 16:9 will be smaller and there will be black border on top and bottom.
   3ds and ds better just toggle screen too small.

2. fastest processor
   ayaneo pocket mini
   G90T is 50 percent faster than S662 i believe will have better ps2 and gamecube games vs air x and xu dream1.
   however same problem. 4.2 inches screen. psp got top and bottom black border and look tiny. ds and 3ds must hold vertical or toggle between screen not fun to play.

3. The best
   Mangmi air x.
   air x won the best although processor is slower but by having snapdragon driver the compability for emulation is much better.
   screen 5.5, 1080p
   big enough for better psp gameplay than psp itself
   big screen, small screen set for 3ds and ds is much better gameplay compare to the other 2 handheld.
   personally my handheld of year 2025. but we are still waiting for the launch of air x. promise mid September.
   Mangmi where ???

[proven flower]

But yeah they might be panicking a bit due to the others

[vestal vigil]

This is very weird considering all three are aiming for different goals and not just PSP machines.

The Pocket Air Mini is aiming to be a 5th-generation and below machine that also has the GPU power to run heavy-duty shaders for those systems with no issue, making it more of a premium device for those systems.

The XU Dream1 is really aiming to be the cheapest 4:3 system on the market, as a lot of systems used 4:3 to display their games. It's more of a JoT device for a far more reasonable price.

The Air X has positioned itself to be the PSP machine everyone wants for cheap, while also having a chip that has greater compatibility with higher-end systems (which kinda doesn't matter when it can't even play those systems well). Plus with it having the ability for Linux support, it does give it a unique edge. It will be an incredibly versatile device, but the outright best, no.

They're all aiming for different niches, while competing in a similar space

[final stag]

all have linux support

[proud arch]

as i mention i agreed pocket air mini has faster processor therefore there are more ps2 and gc games more playable but it is not d1100 or s865 where nearly 90 percent ps2 are playable.
i think maybe around 30 to 40 percent playable for ps2 and gc maybe 50 to 60 percent.
thirdly u need to focus on screen and also the resolution.
air X is 5.5 inches at 1080p
pocket air mini is 4.2 inches at 720p.
this itself made alot of
difference.
u have agreed that for psp gameplay air x is far superior over pocket mini as it is same aspect ratio as psp 16:9
but u never mentioned nds and 3ds.
4.2 inches screen no enough screen estate for ds and 3ds.
5.5 inches screen can easily have 2 screen side by side or
1 big screen and 1 small screen.
however, some people wanted their device to be very pocketable. this pocket mini as smaller form factor will win.
when i mention air x is the best is base on my opinion.
lastly air x run android 14 but pocket mini run android 11 which is a disadvantage as certain apps require higher android version.

[vestal vigil]

I never mentioned the dual-screen systems as I don't play them on these. I would rather use the Thor or the original hardware.

[regal bay]

As long as Air X can play SOME PS2 games, I'm happy 😅😅

[proud arch]

ayn thor s865 is really good but price is really way beyond these 2 budget mid tier king.
no need talk about xu dream1. they keep changing direction.
previously they wanted g85 on xu35h50 which is 5 inches screen. now they change direction. there is a possibility that they may face financial difficulty and not release xu dream1 as promise.

[loud stone]

Except the Air X would still suck for a good chunk of DS games that depended on the screens being on top of one another, as you’d either be stuck with using Tate mode or you’d have to play games like Sonic Rush in a really weird manner.

[proud arch]

i know sonic rush famous example. cant drastic or melonds set a vertical setup just for this mode. again it will be exactly like pocket mini situation.

[loud stone]

That’s not even getting into how 3DS would already take up most of the screen space if you wanted it to be full sized, nor the part where MelonDS actually does support overlaying the bottom screen on top of the top screen with added transparency to effectively utilize the same functional layout that Drastic on OnionOS and MuOS has.

[loud stone]

This still wouldn’t help with Sonic Rush nor vertical games, but it does mean you wouldn’t be stuck with either having “a smaller top screen to accommodate having the bottom screen” or “only having 1 screen at a time” on 4:3 devices.

Also, that Android 11 version is ignoring the part where most emulators already support Android 11 as the minimum, where it’s Android 10 that has issues with support for some emulators. And even then most of those emulators already wouldn’t run well on the chipset to begin with.

[proud arch]

good ideas of having transparent touch screen. but really dont make it as enjoyable as 2 same size side by side or 1 big and 1 small screen which 5.5 inches have the screen estate.

when people choose pocket mini, just dont choose the 2g version.

[steep robin]

Actually, the Air Mini has a 960p screen and not 720p 😉

[loud stone]

Which integer scales with PS1, Dreamcast, N64, GameCube and PS2 (the games that will play well on it at least).

[round quest]

Technically, it's just the Air X that actually has Linux support. Theoretically, the other two COULD run Linux, but since neither's CPUs are mainlined, it'll be a while before we get a ROM

[warped hedge]

So air mini the way to go?

[heavy halo]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[regal bay]

Nah, the screen is too small for me...

[dense rover]

I'm not saying you're wrong for finding it too small (obvious personal preferences), but it's kind of weird to me how people are saying 4.2 inch 4:3 is too small when people have been asking for at least 4 inches for a while now and said that'd be good enough.
I guess the 4.7 inch 4:3 that Anbernic has been using are just that nice size wise 👀

Maybe I have to experience the bigger screens to really understand how appreciated they are, bc I can't say I'd find 4.2 inches too small when I already find the 3.5 inch screen on my Anbernic SP to be fine x3

[proud arch]

very simple, u turn 2 device 1 at 4 inches for psp.another 5.5 inches . when u are playing the games. u will know whether which one is more enjoyable.
btw, i find those low end game like game boy color seem enjoyable on 4 inches screen.

[proud arch]

anbernic sp is meant as gba, gbc and gb machine. so all these handheld games are nice. once n64, dreamcast, ps1 come in, it is a different ball game.

[slim kestrel]

You can't compare a 16:9 device to a 4:3 device

Real PSP Screen vs 4.2 inch 4:3 screen

[steep robin]

In the end, it all depend on what you, personnally, are after.
Ask yourself what system you want to play the most and go after the device with the best aspect ratio for this system

[proud arch]

to me bigger screen with vibrant colors will make the games more enjoyable. that why odin 2 portal is such a joy to play.

i am a big screen person. 5.5 or 6 inches handheld at 16:9 1080p will be the best. that why i prefer air x over pocket mini

[bitter bough]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[muted jasper]

You said it was going to be available to order last Monday 😂😂😂

[cerulean tulip]

Yeah it's taking time. I guess they'll open orders when they feel like it.

[marsh blaze]

it was... for chinese retailers

[atomic rock]

They really missed the best chance to release it globally so I wouldn't be surprised if they end up killing this, tbh.

[bitter bough]

Thanks for diligently keeping a track of these things. I appreciate it.

[bitter bough]

You’re the Hero we all need but no one ever asked for.

[muted jasper]

And you make up stuff that is just incorrect, exactly what we don’t want from a page that is meant to give information that is correct. So keep the fiction coming…

[bitter bough]

Speak for yourself. The website does say mid September.

If you have a problem take it up with them.

https://youtu.be/ujfMksFF7DE?si=RFAHCM337uA1pz6_

[proven flower]

We got less than 10 days left in the month I'm thinking they missed that timeframe

[bitter bough]

JFYI Everybody’s aware of this information. Just cause you haven’t heard doesn’t make it untrue.

[bitter bough]

At this rate they’d be lucky to release this anytime soon.

[glass patio]

It's adorable that you have a stalker Farhan 😄

[bitter bough]

Some jobless kid with nothing better to do.
Needs to be reported to the Mods.

[round quest]

The prospect of Linux being ported to this feels like the one thing keeping this alive, admittedly

[dense canyon]

What advantage does linux have over android?
More stable performance due to less bloating from OS?

[alpine ravine]

Much easier to to set up and use.

[vestal vigil]

Access to Portmaster and Native Pico 8

[warped hedge]

Yeah. Just easier setup. Plus pico 8, portmaster, Xbox if powerful enough

[vestal vigil]

And more overhead as android isn't eating your ram

[warped hedge]

Yeah. Not as big of a concern. Android can be pretty slim

Androids advantage is just familiarity and sometimes more up to date emulators

[dense canyon]

Which os would be more efficient for device battery?

[warped hedge]

Android has better sleep

Both are probably close when in use

But if you put it to sleep a lot android still wins

[vestal vigil]

Also less inupt lag

[dense canyon]

Ah thats nice

Gonna leave it on android OS for now

[warped hedge]

Yeah. Both are pretty good for only slightly different reasons these days

[dense canyon]

Just hoping that mangmi would fix the input option as the default is on switch layout only

Kinda confusing when it will automatically goes back to switch layout when u close an app

[warped hedge]

Which app?

Shocked they don't have a layout switcher built into android. Might be able to install one

[dense canyon]

Emulator like ppsspp

Wow its actually fixed now that i tried it

[warped hedge]

Yeah. Usually makers throw a toggle in os. But you may be able to switch in the emulator too

[dense canyon]

Usually it will automatically switch back to default layout when u close the emulator

[round quest]

True

[somber solstice]

Is Mangmi stuck at the starting line?

[grim reef]

it's been restocked and sold at the taobao flagship store from days ago after a long silence. is it a sign of global sales?

[proven flower]

https://tenor.com/view/board-paranormal-ghost-ouija-gif-5447676

[ornate ridge]

New release date but unlimited stock for the early bird.

[crimson forge]

The release date is the date they start shipping? Or some preorder start

[ornate ridge]

Order

[proven flower]

I would hope they start shipping then too

or soon after

that's already a month after they said they'd start lol

[somber solstice]

I can't decide which color to get.

I'm leaning toward black.

[bitter bough]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CKTJBKYLxlQ

[bitter bough]

I can't decide between the Black and the White.
Other than Rob's video I haven't seen the Black one anywhere.
If anyone has seen the Black one in a video anywhere else please share here.

[proven flower]

I was thinking about getting one of the 4:3 things coming out around the same time frame but I'm probably going for this since I want to do psp

[next wraith]

Delayed till Oct 15

[proven flower]

And it should be able to handle what I want to do fairly well, aka just a bunch of arcade falling block puzzle games and Wipeout

Was thinking of getting a tablet too but I'd rather wait for winlator to be decent before going for the high end shit

[frigid cloak]

translation: they will be high for Europe anyway 😄

[glass patio]

a tad delayed huh

[earnest sky]

Isn't that also when the pocket air mini launches as well? I was planning on getting both but if you only have this narrow discount window to actually benefit from the lower pricing then it does not become neatly the same value proposition if you miss it.

[tired crow]

Hopefully this final date🙏

[tired crow]

No mini not till march

[vestal vigil]

No, Pocket air mini has pre orders in October, ships in November

The Pocket S Mini is march

[turbid quail]

G9 plus?

[final stag]

no, snap 66x

[glass patio]

huh

not what id call playable but getting it to work at all is pretty cool 😄

[final stag]

yup

[regal bay]

Where can we get the coupon?😲

[marsh blaze]

https://mangmi.com/
should be a big email signup box
but sometimes adblockers eat it

think they're going to email them out at launch so dont expect anything right away

[turbid quail]

I mean the model of the phone

[final stag]

dont remember

[turbid quail]

I'm kind of sure because it have the Noch in the same place and g9 plus have snap 662

[regal bay]

Dam... Any reason why the buttons are so dam loud?😲

[tired crow]

That's what I meant whoops 😬

[hearty heath]

What? This seems to be a room with extraordinary echo. I can't explain myself these buttons being that loud!

[weary hare]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-19949441

[proven flower]

The triggers are insane lmao

[lofty thorn]

Isnt this technically out

[proven flower]

If you're Chinese yeah

[lofty thorn]

MagicX needs to make a competitor to this.

[final stag]

yeah 16x9 g85

at least

[lofty thorn]

What about the price

Needs to be around the 80$ mark

Otherwise it cant compete

[final stag]

XU will make competitor

magicx idk

[vestal vigil]

They already did under XU with the Dream1

[final stag]

not exist

[regal bay]

It's also a 4" screen. Big difference 😅

[final stag]

Dream 1 can out 16x9 and 4:3

dream 2 seems like too

[regal bay]

Still not 5.5" screen

[final stag]

5 will be enough to compete

[zinc elm]

Shift buttons reminds me Kinhank K56 😄

[visual dagger]

Ayaneo pocket air mini would be better according to specs

[final stag]

it much better, except u need 16x9 only

[ivory kettle]

aside of clicky shoulders (still better than X55 though) it feels very nice

[glass patio]

oooh

[distant copper]

Curious of the UI is smooth or not, with 4gb of ram and android 13/14 it might bog down a bit

Experienced that with my RPC before this way it chugged a bit when scrolling fast

[ivory kettle]

frankly all I did was just initial testing and now its going to sit in a case waiting for rocknix or reg linux to come

[turbid plaza]

Where did you get it from ?

[ivory kettle]

our team got some from Mangmi and I one went my way

[regal bay]

How is the fan noise? I've been reading that it's very loud even on "silent" mode?🤔

[marsh blaze]

god please tell me they've smartened up and put a pwm fan in

[ivory kettle]

I only played psp GOW for like 10 minutes on silent and it wasnt getting loud, though I was used to the terrible fan on GF Ace, and this is bambillion times better

[regal bay]

Is there any moment that the fan is actually silent when playing games?

At this exact timestamp he is talking about the fan speed and how loud it is (which honestly sounds terrible)🤔🤔
That it's not actually silent, it just ramps up and also the coin whine.

https://youtu.be/i7DY3PZ8zHg?t=10m15s

[ivory kettle]

maybe, thing is I have relatively high ambient noise around here, so I dont really notice it on low rpm

[scenic verge]

that fan-noise is win600 18w tier. otherwise it seems like a good handheld.

[regal bay]

Is that good or bad (the win600 18w tier)??😅

Haven't really been interested in that specific Win600 handheld, so I don't know if that's good or bad 🙏

[scenic verge]

it's the same level of screech

9-16w = various soft whirr's
18w = screech
24w = leaf blower

[fleet smelt]

Does this chip even support linux

[marsh blaze]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.2-Arm-SoC-Updates

not this device specifically but the SoC was mainlined

[fleet smelt]

Nice

[ivory kettle]

yeah there were a couple Ubuntu Touch phones made with it

[marsh blaze]

postmarket too I think

[azure garden]

They aren't 😆 , the acoustics in there are amplifying.

Shoulders a little

[proud arch]

https://youtu.be/ovy4a71-AJg?si=Y3AZ-fpJ3IFSJjZ1

this one uses L and R buttons, it is not clicky

[regal bay]

What about the fan noise? Is it true that it has an annoying high pitch/coil whine when playing??

And that "silent mode" isn't actually silent, since the fan will still ramp up when playing games??🙏🙏

[azure garden]

The fan hasn't been bothering me. Although I don't use it much on here, I don't recall whine or issues. I'll test some more with the fan modes to confirm.

[regal bay]

Thank you! 😊🙏

[azure garden]

And maybe see if GameHub has even a twinkle of a chance in running

[cerulean haven]

I haven’t noticed any issues playing psp with silent fan. When playing 3DS on performance mode with turbo fan, yeah, you hear it 😅

[azure garden]

Extreme mode is louder, no coil whine, but it's definitely a whirring more than a whooshing sound. Silent does not make noise for me so far. Balanced seems solid.

[regal bay]

Thank you! Good to know that silent doesn't make noise. But it's strange that Joey mentioned that even with silent mode, it's not silent since the fan will ramp up.

[azure garden]

Hrm I'll push the chip harder and see, I can see why they might want to do that.

[azure garden]

Ok it took about 20 minutes to happen, but it does eventually ramp up in silent mode when under full load.

[regal bay]

Dam that's actually a shame... Too bad the CPU heats up that much that the fan even needs to ramp up (even on silent mode)😔😔

Maybe it's because of the CPU or maybe bad air flow, either way, not a good sign

Again thank you for testing!🙏

[azure garden]

I don't know that it's getting hot enough to need that much cooling from what it feels like to me. I usually just play with the fan turned off. I hope they release an OTA update to change the fan curve if so.

[regal bay]

One last stupid question (sorry🙏).
When playing with the fan turned off, it doesn't "overheat" or gets uncomfortably warm?

[azure garden]

I don't like holding hot handhelds

[regal bay]

I'll take that as a no?😅🙏

[azure garden]

It can get pretty warm but not hot (for me, so far) with the fan off

[compact wolf]

I'm betting on Anbernic releasing rg ds before the air x

we all know they're not supposed to compete directly but damn my wallet is limited

[final stag]

why u need weak ds device?

[compact wolf]

to have an awesome time playing DS games

[final stag]

fair

[compact wolf]

that's the whole point no? these are toys

[final stag]

really didnt know that someone ready to buy toy for ds only

3DS yes, but it should have different power

[compact wolf]

oh a lot of people are

just like a lot of people loved the 34xx

to have an awesome time playing gba 🙂

[final stag]

interesting

[sonic geyser]

Actually no, the S922X and A311D are stronger than the SD662. The only thing that gives the SD662 any edge is the GPU.

[hybrid harness]

This is released, why is it still under upcoming?

[final stag]

its not

[hybrid harness]

It's up on AliExpress right now

So is the Action π, which is also still in upcoming

[atomic rock]

It's not released.

[hybrid harness]

Ah, they're pulling that bullshit

(The sellers, not MangMi)

[slim warren]

Yea, it’s just resellers

[hybrid harness]

What about the Helegaly Action π?

[slim warren]

I believe they’ve stopped selling it

[hybrid harness]

I see some listings for $200-300, but I found one for $80

[bitter bough]

Late October updated release with the fixed screen for the Helegaly Action Pi.
Don't pay more than $80 shipped.
I paid $55.

[hybrid harness]

$74 shipped

[bitter bough]

Good deal but you'l likely get the bad screen

[hybrid harness]

What's fixed about the screen?

[bitter bough]

Currently Right Now there's 5 extra pixels on the right of the screen

[hybrid harness]

Let's jump over there

[turbid plaza]

Isn't the Action Pi largely worse than the Air X ? Aside from being 4:3, which some people prefer, I don't see the value if they cost the same.

Performance looks quite similar, with less RAM, less storage and arguably worse SOC compatibility… ?

[hybrid harness]

Eh, I'm a collector

[turbid plaza]

Nevermind then. 😂

[hybrid harness]

And yeah, the Air X has A73+A53 while the Action Pi is A55

So if you're not a collector and just want something in that $75-$125 range, Air X

I'd like to support more companies not using Android, even if it's Allwinner's shitty BSP

Maybe I'll look into Powkiddy's A527 instead

I cancelled the Action Pi order already so I need to wait for the refund to hit

[round quest]

Same

We gotta have more OS options, dangit!

[hybrid harness]

Well, there aren't really that many to start with; none of the cheap SoCs will run Windows, macOS is obviously a no-go, so you've got Linux distributions (Android is technically one of these but also not really)

[hybrid harness]

It's still the National Day holidays

So no news until the 9th at the earliest

[vagrant seal]

Didnt they say Oct 15th or something?

Unless you're waiting on other news... The aliens haven't taken over yet.

[odd prism]

This handheld is actually something this market needed

A solid little Android handheld with a good screen for under US$100

[proud arch]

but it delay it mid September launch. with ayaneo pocket mini another solid budget, coming along the way. will it steal the mangmi air x supporter

[odd prism]

Eh

The Pocket Mini is what this market needed too

[proud arch]

but pocket mini has more powerful chipset vs mangmi air x

[odd prism]

But a smaller, lower resolution screen, which is also 4:3

And less RAM

It's also MTK so compatibility could be iffy

But it's still a nice handheld which has its own purpose

[round quest]

I'd argue the possibility of a Rocknix ROM is also keeping some people interested in the Air X

Especially with how dry the Linux handheld segment has gotten

[odd prism]

Has the 662 been mainlined?

It has!

Since 2023 shockingly enough

[slim kestrel]

It's for sale in my country now but it's double the actual price 😅

[south mortar]

Anything outside the mangmi store are just resellers, that's why it's double the price

[spice kettle]

Yeah the only hurdle is bootloader afaik

[odd prism]

Yee

[spice kettle]

Note I dont think any cfw devs have cleared that hurdle just yet, but they've made progress.

[bitter bough]

The release date for this is the 15th right?

[cerulean haven]

Yes

[graceful olive]

Ayaneo pocket mini preorders are one 1 day before Mangmi air x. Definitely done on purpose

[silk agate]

Got my mangmi email. It went to junk 😅

They are sending out the voucher code

[vocal saddle]

The email says it launches at 7.08pm PDT lol why such a random time

[spice kettle]

The number 8 sounds kinda like "prosper" in Chinese and its considered lucky.

7 can sometimes mean unlucky so if you wanna start at 7 then 7:08 is a more lucky number.

[fossil flume]

So uhh….who’s buying this tomorrow?

[heavy halo]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[compact wolf]

yesss

[compact wolf]

btw, do we have info on apollo/moonlight latency with this? assuming a good router and PC on ethernet

[somber solstice]

Did they send out the coupons yet?

[bitter bough]

Yes, check your spam as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJkvQIDWss

First video I've seen of the Black colorway that shows the overall exterior design of the device in good lighting. 👍

[compact wolf]

I still have no idea which color I'll order 🤣

[scenic verge]

it has issues with mario kart 7 at 1x. heh

this is officially E6max-tier

[silk agate]

I’m ordering but not waking up at 3AM for it 😅 i will just order once i’m up

[crimson forge]

I remember russ having much better results with Mario kart 7/3ds, can't tell the emulator and setting used above, don't seems to be azahar?

And quite sure it plays PSP/DC/n64 better than the a527.

3ds should be considered a bonus for this device anyway, similar to gc and ps2.

[cerulean tulip]

It's unlimited stock so you should be fine.

[silk agate]

Yeah 👍 no worries cheers

The real question is what colour are people getting?

Black for me

[old peak]

I want to buy it, but I'm still not sure. For example, the Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini features a more performant chipset, and therefore doesn't really have a problem with PS2 emulation. On the other hand, it is 4:3, which is not great for PSP.

[regal bay]

I'm also 50/50... Would like to have a LITTLE bit more performance on this, at least so we can run PS2 games without any issues 😞😞

5.5" screen is perfect, it's just the performance that is the issue 😞

[crimson forge]

You need quite a lot more power than this or pocket air mini to run PS2 games "without any issues".

[regal bay]

Yeah I know, I'm not talking about God of War or those demanding games, just those nostalgia games such as Rayman 3, Woody Woodpecker etc😅🙏

[old peak]

Check some Pocket Air Mini reviews; there are almost no problems running PS2 emulation.

[old peak]

Actually, according to this review, the God of War is more than playable when locked to 30FPS.
https://youtu.be/3utr_78qJpA?si=uf6KNozPC1M_weU0&t=117

[crimson forge]

Ayaneo marketing is working

Even the video you linked above mention only a portion of games

[south mortar]

Lesson from ayaneo marketing:

"runs with half the frames skipped" ❌ can't say that

"runs smoothly when locked to 30" ✅ perfect

[old peak]

But still, it got me thinking. I'm also looking into K59 - but don't know what chip will be there and what is the build quality.

[south mortar]

marketing people at ayaneo love their job it seems

[cerulean haven]

Did you see the @slim warren PS2 video for the Mangmi, very interesting tbh

[crimson forge]

Still "occasional framedrop" with 30 fps cap

[old peak]

Yes, I saw it. It got me thinking I could get Air X for PSP and some light PS2. And later on, maybe get some other device for PS2.
To be honest, if Pocket Air Mini had a 16:9 display, I would get that without hesitation.

[crimson forge]

K59 is the g99? That should be about the same as pocket air, slight cpu advantage and GPU disadvantage, but should be better in heat/power consumption.
You can look at pocket micro 's reviews

[cerulean haven]

Yeah I'm really enjoying PSP on it ... I was too busy getting married and having kids when PSP came out but a colleague at work had one and I was very interested, going back to it now, I think it's a sort of peak in gaming, everything looks great but games are still also very playable and more importantly won't take 3 years to complete

[regal bay]

Who are naming these handhelds?😅🤦‍♂️
Do we have any release date, price etc?

[old peak]

Yes, looks like G99.
Its performance is interesting, but I'm not so sure about the display and build quality. Also, the price could be under $100 ( #1422539846890688533 message )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJLI7R5ukQ4

[old peak]

Haven't seen any release date, but it shouldn't be far. You can probably dig some more info here:
https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1422539846890688533

[graceful olive]

I would not get this or the ayaneo pocket air mini for PS2...

A lot of people are going to be severely disappointed

[slim kestrel]

I would not get this or the ayaneo pocket air mini~~ for PS2...~~

[old peak]

Now I'm getting inclined to get Air X, because I want my kids and me to play PSP, and for this, it is an ideal device. 🙂

[odd prism]

Yee, PSP, some Android games and lightweight GC/Wii/PS2 for $90

Not bad

[glass patio]

3.5-4 hours of psp on this sounds low though still an amazing device for the pricetag

[odd prism]

(heavy emphasis on lightweight)

[odd prism]

Ehh, it's not the worst

But not the best

[glass patio]

i know 😄 im just spoiled for battery life these days xD

[old peak]

What do you consider to be decent battery life for the PSP? And also in what price range 😄

[glass patio]

very fair 😛 for pricetag i guess it's okay, i just expected a lot better given its a 5000mah battery

[vocal saddle]

Wonder what the shipping'll be 🤔

[fossil flume]

This should run balatro no problem right? If my Trimui smart pro can run it decently on Linux, hopefully the android version would be no issue on a SD662?

[glass patio]

balatro should be fine

[old peak]

I'm hoping for 13-14USD to Europe. (like Retroid e-shop)
Anbernic's shipping is usually 20+ USD 🤦‍♂️

[vocal saddle]

Yeah Anbernic suck with shipping fees

[fossil flume]

$24.99 shipping so it’s still technically under $100

[odd prism]

Oh yeah a toaster can run Balatro just fine

[turbid plaza]

I wouldn't recommend it. No screen, usually just one lever and one dial… really sucky ergos for Balatro.

[vocal saddle]

Gets warm in the hands too

[odd prism]

My 35XXSP runs balatro, the 662 can run it fine

I actually love playing balatro on my 406H and Odin 2

[fossil flume]

I just don’t have any experience with the Android version of Balatro…so I assumed it’d be fine but wanted some reassurance

[odd prism]

Yee

[zinc elm]

And it plays smooth on k56:)

[slim warren]

mmm that seems off

[hollow lichen]

Only like... 3 hours until lauch

[azure garden]

Almost time!

https://rh-go.link/Mangmi-Air-X

[somber solstice]

I'm leaning toward black.

[azure garden]

I need that retro, creamsicle white has been holding up great thoughin regards to staining

[somber solstice]

Good to know.

The black is giving me Halloween vibes.

[azure garden]

Probably no need to get the SD card options, save the money

[somber solstice]

I've got 3 brand new micro sd cards in my drawer so I'm good.

[slim warren]

I can’t believe it

The day has come

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

[fossil flume]

We just need to know how much shipping costs

[tepid spear]

Do we know what will be the shipping options ? (DHL, 4px...)

Nevermind

[graceful olive]

which shipping options will avoid tariffs

[slim warren]

FWIW, I’ve never had any tariffs come through for 4PX

[somber solstice]

I'm going to try 4px and see what happens.

[cosmic wren]

Getting black on it, I like the orange contrast

[slim warren]

The black is really nice in person

[fossil flume]

https://tenor.com/view/come-in-black-dark-knight-bruce-wayne-batman-gif-15859734

[somber solstice]

Nobody has talked me out of black yet sooo.....

[cerulean tulip]

@cerulean tulip heck yeah it does.

[somber solstice]

8 minutes past

[bitter bough]

7:08 PM PDT right?

[hollow lichen]

Ye

[bitter bough]

Done

First

[fossil flume]

$15 shipping to USA

PayPal not working?

[loud stone]

Welp, PayPal isn’t working.

[fallen fjord]

I'm in

Just used my Paypal card via Google Pay

[muted jasper]

Comes to $86.99

[bitter bough]

US was $89.99

[keen pivot]

PayPal not working card worked

[muted jasper]

Hmmmm might go for the pocket air mini instead I think….

[keen pivot]

Same 89.99

[muted jasper]

Did you use the $5 code

[bitter bough]

I only got YunExpress as SHipping Option to the US

[muted jasper]

I’m in Australia

[fallen fjord]

I'm unfortunately going to get both

[bitter bough]

Yeah both for me as well

[muted jasper]

Shipping is $12 to Australia

[old peak]

Mee too probably 😂

[fallen fjord]

I mean, I gotta put something on the Retro Handhelds website

[bitter bough]

US Shipping for me is $15

[muted jasper]

I’ve cut down on my HH’s I skip more than I use to.

[old peak]

To EU as well

[fallen fjord]

US Shipping for me was $19

[muted jasper]

Random shipping is weird…

[somber solstice]

$15 shipping for me in the US

[bitter bough]

It might be more to rural and remote areas. Just saying.

[old peak]

Actually the page started to work at 7:07 😉

[somber solstice]

Wouldn't go through at first. Probably too many people trying at the same time.

[zinc elm]

Paypal sucks

[old peak]

Ok,I've snatched the black one and now quickly back to the bed. It is 4AM here 😂

[somber solstice]

I'm hoping Mangmi does well and starts giving AYN some competition. Consumers usually win when there's competition.

[somber solstice]

Goodnight!

[fallen fjord]

This would probably be closer to Retroid competition than AYN imo

[somber solstice]

Gotta get both for the Retro Science. The question is are you getting the Thor and the Anbernic DS?

[fallen fjord]

Thor is ordered
DS will be on its way eventually

Lol

[sweet hazel]

Sold out already?

[fallen fjord]

All still available

[sweet hazel]

Never mind! Just popped up for me

[somber solstice]

No there's no limit

I'm watching @modern pier Thor video while eating a Halloween themed Hostess cupcake and chatting on this Discord. Right after I ordered a Mangmi Air X. Is this a mid life crisis?

[fallen fjord]

Yeah

[somber solstice]

Bahaha I thought so!

[hollow lichen]

Here's hoping things go well

[somber solstice]

Things can go wrong for a new company. Fingers crossed that Mangmi gets off the starting line ok.

[vestal vigil]

It's finally out and ready to get into the hands of the people

[somber solstice]

Thankfully I learned at a young age not to buy a boat or a pool. They're both money pits. Just have a nice freind who has both of those.

[hollow lichen]

New company, first handheld purchase. Some odds, haha

[somber solstice]

The value is too good to pass up and maybe we will see Linux on this one as well.

[modern pier]

https://tenor.com/view/real-housewives-housewives-bravo-bravo-tv-real-housewives-out-of-context-gif-24276657

[brave lagoon]

Shipping was $15 to Wisconsin. I noticed that they were listed as Mangmi UK after the order was confirmed.

[hollow lichen]

Ended up having to pay 15 as well

[proud arch]

hope that u could make some video on GC and 3ds for mangmi air x. your video for ps2 mangmi air x is really good. thanks

[somber solstice]

@slim warren has a great video showing PS2 games on the Air X. That's probably the top power for this chipset.

https://youtu.be/BXUdRecUSxk?si=22XYqGBvFsV7gOAA

[compact wolf]

y'all are having it easy with shipping, it was $36 for me

at least they swore it's covering taxes to brazil, let's see what happens 🙏

got the white color

[odd prism]

I'm excited for you all

[compact wolf]

join us!

[odd prism]

I don't have the money, I got a good deal on the RG406H anyways

(US$80 shipped from the marketplace here)

[compact wolf]

it's indeed a good deal!

[fossil flume]

So did I and I bought the Mangmi anyways

[odd prism]

Read the first part please :3

[fossil flume]

I know I know

406H will serve you well

[odd prism]

But maybe if one pops up on the used market at a good price I'll see if I can swing it

[slim warren]

Aww, thanks for the share 🫂 I'm just glad it's finally shipping and the video isn't just a tease and can be used 😅

[vocal saddle]

Only $10 shipping to the UK! 🫖

[silk agate]

Errr whys that?

Seemed to removed discount once address entered

Weird had to use a different email :/ checkout is a bit broken

[muted jasper]

Do you think this is more powerful than the Odin lite?

[crimson forge]

Nope, this is more of t618 tier, somewhat worse (outside of any advantage adreno might bring over Mali), not close to D900/t820/sd845 at all.

[silk agate]

Is it just me or is the checkout broken? Seems to keep crashing

[muted jasper]

Thanks for the reply, I’ve owned more powerful HH’s than the Odin lite but I always go back to it as my beater device. Might give this one a skip.

[muted jasper]

I caved in a tried to buy it twice but it failed twice so I’m out and now passing on the HH. I’ll wait for the upcoming AYANEO devices.

[silk agate]

Yeah somethings very broken. I will wait till later. Cant checkout in any manner

[muted jasper]

Yeah it’s completely broken, I tried two different browsers then gave up.

[vocal saddle]

It didn't work for me the first time - it said "connecting to your bank" but did nothing. But then I closed the page and retried, then on the "connecting to your bank" screen, I got a spinning circle and then it went through

[vocal saddle]

Hmm I added the code in the basket before clicking checkout and it was fine. Deffo seems like their site has some errors like you say

[silk agate]

Thanks 👍 I will give it a try later when dust has settled. Im in no rush for the handheld 😅 also ayaneo orders to be made later this week too

[proud arch]

No. odin lite d900 can emulate quite alot of ps2/gc

[proud arch]

i think server cannot handle the loads, still got a week. order another few days time

[silk agate]

There we go! Multiple attempts later paypal worked

Had to use a completely different email to get discount to work though 🤷🏻‍♂️

Can pair it with the tpu ergo case i got on AliE in prep

[slim kestrel]

When are these shipping?

[vocal saddle]

For anyone wanting to pay via PayPal

[muted jasper]

Odin lite is almost the perfect device for the price I paid for it and the amount of time I’ve played it for. Was a real bargain.

[silk agate]

I just spammed the button and it eventually worked.

😅

[vocal saddle]

Good fix lol

[silk agate]

Do we think a TSP screen protector would work on this? I have loads of those

[vocal saddle]

Well it comes with a screen protector anyway thankfully

[vocal saddle]

TSP is 4.96", this is 5.5"

[silk agate]

Ahhh ok 👍

[old peak]

Are you sure it comes with screen protector? I don't see it mentioned anywhere and was offered one during checkout for $3.89

https://mangmi.com/collections/accessories/products/mangmi-air-x-screen-protector

[cerulean haven]

Mine came with the protector inside the box, I would expect that yours will too

[vocal saddle]

Yeah scroll alllll the way down on the product page - there's a "What's in the Box?" section

[cerulean haven]

For those not in the Mangmi discord here's a look at the case, I'm very impressed with the quality for a freebie

[proud arch]

for people who still seat in the fence, buy it.
it is really value for money.
u can easily sell at higher price in resale market easily.

[vocal saddle]

Oooh i love a fitted case

[odd prism]

That's the same quality as my official Ayn Odin 2 case

(I know I keep yapping about it I just really love the thing)

[silk agate]

Sweet! Didnt spot that 👍

[odd prism]

Ooo nice

Huge headstart over Ayaneo

[glass patio]

£64 inc shipping and case, thats damn good

[cerulean haven]

Agreed, these days that's basically the price of a trip to the cinema for 2 including popcorn

[glass patio]

much cheaper if you smuggle in food 😉

[slim kestrel]

So monday, alr thanks 👍

[silk agate]

And a screen protector apparently

[regal bay]

Super super dumb question. Is carrying case included? I can't see it when ordering 🤔

[old peak]

#1384550862034174052 message

[regal bay]

Ahhh so it's included even though we can't see it on the cart?

[old peak]

exactly

[muted jasper]

Here’s another question that’s someone here is bound to know the answer to, is this more powerful than the retroid pocket classic?

[south mortar]

No

[dire shard]

I’m having trouble checking out with PayPal. Is anyone else having the same issue?

[proud arch]

it does not matter, retroid pocket classic dont even have dual analog joystick.

[near ember]

Same here, I just used another credit card...annoying though

Finally got to use my now dusty after a few months of waiting to use it $5 credit, lol. Great price overall for this, glad it's finally shipping.

[silk agate]

I got paypal to work, but i had to keep trying and trying. It eventually worked. Mangmi are aware of issues and trying to resolve

But may be easier to use credit card or google/apple pay for now

[dire shard]

That’s unfortunate. I guess I’ll try again later

[muted jasper]

Doesn’t bother me, I just map a new config for each game I play. I only play one game at a time. I’ve always wanted a powerful gameboy looking device without an analog stick since I started buying these toys 5 years ago 👍

[regal bay]

So who ordered this?🙌

[warm dragon]

Mangmi use emmc version ?

Can I play Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Android version?

[cerulean haven]

Getting reports that the PayPal issue is resolved

[vocal saddle]

Yep just saw on the Mangmi Discord that PayPal is now working

[loud stone]

Yup, finally got mine.
Didn’t want to pay with anything but PayPal.

[vapid rapids]

What colour is everyone going for? I can decide what is best. I’m thinking black but I’m not keen on the orange shoulders

[heavy halo]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[silk agate]

Paypal now working

Mangmi just confirmed all fixed

[loud stone]

Got black.

[fossil flume]

Click above to see and vote in the poll….Black slightly in the lead right now, but overall a pretty even split

[loud stone]

Oh thank you for the reminder, I forgot to click on Black for that.

[near ember]

I went Black, it just looks classy to me 💯

[rancid grail]

https://tenor.com/view/worriedface-gif-8136920942220759477

[vocal saddle]

I went white. Not a huge fan of any of them, but the black with orange looks like an LTT hoodie lol, and I really don't like the Retro Grey colourscheme

[hollow lichen]

Wasn't really sold on the gray either

[karmic arch]

Anyone figure out a workaround for PayPal yet?

[silk agate]

Works now

Fixed earlier

[karmic arch]

It's literally not even an option on the site now, not sure how that's fixed lol

[silk agate]

Oh yeah 😅 they giveth and taketh away

It was working earlier

[karmic arch]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-money-futurama-gif-6882124657810317443

Lol lol

[silk agate]

Hopefully it will be fixed soon

[tame pollen]

Congratulations! PayPal payments are now working normally. 🥳

[azure garden]

I picked up a Retro model

[bitter bough]

Does any one know what the microSD cards ship with on them?

I can't seem to find information on that

I'm guessing they have what I think they have but I see no confirmation of it.

[old peak]

❓
White or Retro 🟫 ?
What is your favorite flavor? 😉 I've already ordered a black one, but want to get another to the family ... and think to have two same colors is lame and not really practical 😉

[old peak]

Never mind, I've just ordered Retro color 😉

Interesting fact/rough estimate of how many Air X were sold today.
7:10 p.m. PDT my 1st order - number 1075
12:19 p.m. PDT my 2nd order - number 2161
So it could mean roughly 1150-1200 units sold in the first 17 hours or so 😉

[bitter bough]

Not Surprised by this at all.
If they get this many orders the delays were justified to prevent them from taking orders and not being able to ship them out.
I think they were delaying this due to supply chain and logistics reasons.

[near ember]

They are a brand new company, they could have also not known how to acquire all of the parts needed to get going. Either way, it's shipping now and it's water under the bridge.

[crimson forge]

Need to account for failed orders, cancellation and stuff which will add to the order number similar to how it behaves on Ayn and retroid sites as well as igg

[hollow lichen]

Not surprising lol

[glass patio]

how long do we have to take advantage of the discount?

[proud arch]

if early bird offer is over, discount still works.

[near ember]

Wonderful. Just found out that the SD card option they offer is for blank, no name, SD cards, no roms included. No mention of that on their order page. Now I have to cancel the order and reorder it without the jank card....not a good way to start off. Do better MANGMI.

[turbid plaza]

There are 17 rules to buying a retro handheld.

Rules 1 to 16 are all : DO NOT BUY AN SD CARD FILLED WITH GAMES FROM A HANDHELD MANUFACTURER.

-# Rule 17 is a reminder than rule 13 is the most important.

Mangmi is just being smart about the rules : they sell empty SD cards, which is The Way.

[near ember]

But they need to state they are empty on the order page, which they do not do, that is NOT the way 😉

[quiet adder]

Tried to also get the 5 dollars off for subscribing to emails but I haven't received anything yet. Anyone else having the same issue?

[vocal saddle]

The code is MANGMI5

[quiet adder]

Thanks. Doing the Lord's work

[turbid plaza]

They don't state that the cards are full of stuff either. 🤷‍♂️

[vocal saddle]

Tinfoil hat coming out... But Joey speculated on one of his Newscasts recently that Anbernic didn't get Snapdragon chips because Qualcomm don't wanna be associated with companies who sell ROMs. AYN, Retroid, AyaNeo... They don't include ROMs, even if some of them sell microSD cards. I wonder if Mangmi were going to include ROMs and then Qualcomm told them not to

[turbid plaza]

"sand_pest" definitely sounds like a religious zealot. 😂

[turbid plaza]

Ooooh that sounds suspiciously sensemaking and truthpossible.

I'm not kidding, it's a good argument.

[vocal saddle]

Yeah I reckon Joey's probably right tbh

[near ember]

Than they need to do better letting folks know that. Most are going to assume they have roms simply because most of the main sellers like Anbernic/Powkiddy etc sell cards with games on them. Not stating they are blank is deceptive and wrong. Hopefully they see this and stop doing that before they get hit hard on Reddit or somewhere else for decpetive business practices. I like them and want to see them succeed, I hope they do.

[turbid plaza]

Deceptive ?

[vocal saddle]

Deceptive practices 😂

Mate anyone who goes on Reddit to complain about not getting ROMs is going to be rightly clowned on

[turbid plaza]

I think you should look up the word. They're being 100% honest : they just sell you an SD card. If anything it's the others (who "innocently" put games on the cards) who are being deceptive.

The fact that you assume that there will be pirated content on the card is totally on you.

[compact wolf]

oh well, when others put games on it they definitely market those games lol

[near ember]

They're not going to complain about not getting roms, they are going to complain about getting a jank sd card they THOUGHT were filled with roms. Big difference there.

[compact wolf]

"128gb 640000 games"

[vocal saddle]

Where are you getting the info that their microSD cards are "no name"? I've seen your posts in the Mangmi Discord and it seems like you're just assuming that

[turbid plaza]

Eronauta is right : other mfgs tend to use the games as a selling argument.

[near ember]

AS they dont advertise a name, like Ayaneo does (Sandisk), then it's a no anme card, China is filled with them, and most if not all are jank.

[vocal saddle]

Could be a decent Kioxia card like the ones Anbernic use, they're from Toshiba. PowKiddy do Seapiy ones too and they're good

[near ember]

Now who's assuming? 😉

[vocal saddle]

I've said "could be" where you have concluded already and saying it as if it's gospel

[turbid plaza]

@near ember I don't thing you'll find much support here with that line of thinking. The whole community is alive because there's a sort of omerta on ROM sets and buyable SD cards filled with games.

[near ember]

Geez, you guys will say anything to make your point, I simply state facts. I'll leave you two play in your sand box, I'm going elsewhere. Byes

[turbid plaza]

👋

Feels much better now it's just us bad faith idiots.

[compact wolf]

is it just me or all the servers are slowly filling with angry people? lol
one of the best things about this hobby was that the communities were basically old nerds happily chatting and carelessly buying cheap hh toys to tinker with

and we were usually so nice and helpful to each other

[round quest]

Every community I've seen centered in something will eventually go that way, sadly

[cerulean haven]

I don't understand some people tbh. We have a Mangmi Discord server, and anyone on that would have happily told that friendly person that the cards are empty, as we have told countless other people.

"I'm angry because I assumed something"

[glass patio]

not just you 😄 people have been angrier for years sadly

[turbid plaza]

I concur with Starstorm : I've seen the same thing happen in eg. RPG forums, where at the start everyone is nice and tries to read everyone else in a positive light, but once it starts growing the sense of — for lack of a better term — community slowly erodes.

(That and a lot of people are angry idiots gesticulating at windmills.)

Also a strict, fair and smart moderation team is a HUGE asset for a growing community. Most of the bigger retrogaming focused Discord servers seem to lean toward self-regulation and don't have strict moderation rules, ie. idiots will definitely have a voice there.

You really have to do something obviously toxic in order to get a slap on the wrist here.

I think that's both good and bad. 🤷‍♂️

But yeah, people have been getting angrier since basically World War II, there have been studies about it. 😐

[glass patio]

so many angry little people 😄

[compact wolf]

oh yes
I moderate a big retrogaming brazilian server (the one in the tag), and I more often than not I rather mute/kick/ban way before things escalate lol

[turbid plaza]

Sounds exhausting.

I've moderated several forums but never a Discord server.

[compact wolf]

it's my first, but it's been fun so far 🙂

spending time there has been better than doomscrolling instagram anyway lol

[turbid plaza]

I stopped moderating forums because it's literally a lot of work. You have to read everything, even what you don't care about, be freakishly patient and basically have people mostly contacting you because they have problems.
It's like being a social worker with ADHD.

[compact wolf]

ah, I tell people if they want private time with me they have to pay for the hour
...no more DMs now, unfortunatelly

[turbid plaza]

That sounds like a very different kind of job.

[compact wolf]

💅

[turbid plaza]

Precisely.

[proud arch]

i also told them that the sd card is empty as they are DIY device. if unsure, they can ask this discord group or they can email to mangmi. some even ask for helps on how to put games and we hint how to and provide youtube video. mangmi discord group is friendly chat group.

[round quest]

I actually turned down a modding position in one Discord server I frequent because I wasn't sure if I would do well

[turbid plaza]

Probably a good choice : more free time for you and more enjoyment for someone who actually wants to do it.

[round quest]

True

[cerulean tulip]

You still need to be subbed with an email for the code to work. Check your spam folder.

[slim kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-didn't-know-first-time-gif-4645987575731742372

[marsh blaze]

so they're a little more transparent their junk card is actually junk and dont bother using up its one and only write cycle with a trash set 🤣

[quiet adder]

It worked

[cerulean tulip]

Nice 🙂🔥

[hollow lichen]

Maybe I'm weird but I'm fine with having no [games] preloaded

[turbid plaza]

A lot of people are.

It's just a tempest in a teapot.

[proud arch]

yes, it is more work. but in the days of internet, this one should not be too difficult. good. 👍

[regal bay]

For those who already have this Handheld, is it really too noisy? I keep reading and watching reviews that it gets relatively warm when the fan is turned off, and it's nowhere silent even on Silent mode🤔

I have asked this question before, but that was a while ago😅

[final stag]

gamma os will fix that, even if it has issue (if it possible to control fan ofc, not just on/off)

[regal bay]

Ahhh sweet! Hopefully we will even get Gamma OS on this handheld 🙏🙏

[turbid plaza]

Slow down… Gamma did receive a unit BUT he just got a kid and has a lot on his plate right now.

I don't think you should expect a build anytime soon.

[cerulean tulip]

The Rocknix team also got one to work on too. So Linux maybe.

[turbid plaza]

And so did Knulli and… REG Linux (never heard of it before ??)

[slim kestrel]

It's basically the team from batocera that works with handhelds

[turbid plaza]

Thanks. 👍

[cerulean haven]

Don't want to make any promises but I recently reached out to the legend himself and he told me "I am nearly done with most tweaks and will release shortly after device launch" so I think we've got a chance of good MANGMI/GammaOS news in the not too distant future

[glass patio]

whoo 😄 but still, he has a lot on right now so let's let him cook 🙂

[half compass]

This or the ayaneo air mini?

[final stag]

air mini

or wait kinhank k59 😄

if u want 16x9 handheld for up to ps2 sub100

[turbid plaza]

Oh that's great ! Thanks for the update. 🙂

[vapid rapids]

Anyone had anything ship yet?

[turbid plaza]

No… but I'm not really surprised, they may have planned a Friday release in order to gauge early western interest over the week-end.

(total speculation, though)

[vocal saddle]

Three days ago in the Mangmi Discord they said they'd start shipping "next week", so hopefully as soon as tomorrow! #1384550862034174052 message

[old peak]

https://youtu.be/DQH40wbiK-I?si=clHJcZDJ1sP3O0XF

[glass patio]

ooooh

[final stag]

''slightly'' less power, noted

https://tenor.com/view/dead-i'm-dead-lol-laughing-lmao-gif-7585881974681125832

even g90t vs g99 is not slightly ... (double gpu)

[meager walrus]

More ppl should make these types of videos. I also enjoy when rgc does the best handheld for each console roundup

It's cool to have a wider perspective

Very fun

[radiant kernel]

i know some people have the device already

how is the outdoor display brightness?

[turbid plaza]

Er… you should ask those people you know. The ones who have it already. 😂

[old peak]

I think RGC mentioned in his review that it is good.

[cerulean haven]

I live in England, it's grey every day so there's no ambient brightness for the screen to fight against 🫣

[rancid grail]

Denmark enters the chat 🤡

[turbid plaza]

Funnily enough we had superb weather when I visited.

Well maybe not superb as such but it was pleasant.

I remember a friend telling me that Paris has horrible weather.
"You need a better judgment scale. Go visit Brussels and London, then we'll talk."

[regal bay]

Is the K59 more powerful?

[proud arch]

hi everyone,
GammaRGB release by the great developer 🙂 for mangmi air x.
this mean that your emulator can improve by 10 to 20 percent for harder to run games for ps2/gc/3ds games. cheer. really good news for mangmi air x

first custom firmware. wow

[old peak]

Yes, should be - no problem emulating PS2. But if it same as K56 inferior display and build quality to Mangmi Air X.
I'm happy with Mangmi becuase I wnat it for PSP and for occasional media watching.

[old peak]

#1422539846890688533 message

[proud arch]

k56 is so expensive, how the pricing for k59 . but kin hanks come with rom sets easier for newbie. if k59 using g99 ?

[old peak]

I'm not familiar with GammaOS yet - tell me will I be able to play Android games on it. Since it is an Android I'm guessing it should .... And will I be able to play Netflix at least in SD as on Mangmi original FW?

[old peak]

Maybe resellers?
K59 is suppose to be around 90USD in China.
More info and videos in this channel (you can see it plays HN Silksong in one vide):
https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1422539846890688533

[proud arch]

i believe netflix will work. i ask those got mangmi they never test as they dont have netflix account.

[proud arch]

gammaos is android minus the bloat service. this will generally improve performance by 10 to 20 percent.
it is like steamos vs windows
steamos (gammaos)
windows ( android)

but gammaos need to flash your os so need to do it carefully

[old peak]

OK, basically debloated Android, cool. What about Play Store do you loose access to that?

[old peak]

I used to root all my Android phones, so no biggie for me 🙂

[proud arch]

still got playstore no worry

GammaOS improves device performance, user experience, and gaming capabilities by optimizing the Android system specifically for retro handhelds. It fixes issues present in the original device firmware and adds many new features.

Here are the key improvements GammaOS brings:

Improvement Area Specific Benefits
⚡ Performance & Memory Frees up significant memory (e.g., 160MB), optimized CPU/GPU governors, high-performance video drivers.
🎮 Gaming Experience Pre-configured emulators & Daijisho launcher, auto-save/load states, multiple performance modes.
🖥️ Display & Controls Fixes display over-sharpening, enables full 60Hz refresh rate, corrects button mapping in Android apps.
🔋 Battery & Power Offers selectable power profiles for drastically improved battery life.
📁 System & Storage "Relaxed Scoped Storage" for easier file access, removes Android TV restrictions for app compatibility.

GammaOS is developed in two versions: GammaOS Core for lower-powered devices and GammaOS Next for more advanced hardware. New releases are often available first on the developer's Patreon before a public release.

I hope this detailed breakdown is helpful! Would you like to know if GammaOS is available for a specific handheld device model?

[turbid plaza]

Actually GammaOS has THREE versions : Core, "regular" (simply called GammaOS) and Next.

[final stag]

ofc much more, G99

[bitter bough]

Anybody got tracking yet?
I think I was order number 2 or something

[cerulean haven]

I'll be in Carcassonne in a couple of days, hopefully I'll get some sun, could even test the Mangmi outdoor performance

[turbid plaza]

HOW HAPPY I AM FOR YOU

-# I'm not jealous.