Anbernic RG477M

[sly shuttle]

[fierce yarrow]

The android play store support thing is annoying. You can only get full catalogue off a phone/tablet + controller.

[copper juniper]

And yet another anbernic device which fucks up the GeForce Now controls 😦

[valid gale]

Think I'll just wait for my pocket ace and see how that is for now. Would have been more interested in a 477h

[eager pelican]

luckily nobody cares about GeForce Now

[sly shuttle]

That's probably a wise move

[opaque star]

No, those are just the packed in microSD options.

All of the 557s are 12/256 internal.

[supple kettle]

Who's trying to playing dirge of cereberus unironically?

[azure narwhal]

looks at burned ps2 copy of dirge I had at random as a kid

[dense mural]

Seems like this is gonna a very powerful handheld, I’m hyped

[silk arrow]

Hype is real

[hasty palm]

Is there already a plastic version of this?

im ngl the device featured in rcg's video looks like a piece of crap. the unfinished metal look is rly bad imo. the brown one looks much better but... brown...

[mystic sable]

i want it now

[tawny scaffold]

the grey one looks a bit too raw, i thought it was going to be more matte like Macs

also clicky triggers again 😞

[feral goblet]

Over 200 dollars for what? 😛

[hasty palm]

the rg477m and the rg slide are suitable devices for what im looking for but idk which one to get. leaning towards the rg slide just because i know what it is and its cheaper

its kind of crazy how the rg477m is like the only device that is seriously up for consideration for me it ticks almost all my boxes. i just dont care for the fact its metal lol

i really think they should have released a plastic version first

[surreal pond]

cars, phones, even anbernic devices, more premium options always get released first. it's just a marketing thing

[ornate coyote]

It’s very heavy, almost 100 grams heavier than the 405M

And that was already a bit weighty

The raw metal finish on the silver is also terrible. The finish on the ‘green’ 405M was much nicer.

[sly shuttle]

Look at the 406H unless you need it pocketable

[surreal pond]

the weight is from the active cooler too

only if they do a H700 option, that'll be much lighter

[celest sage]

Stickless black metal version with 6 face buttons and rg arc dpad pls

The sega nomad must be reborn

(And a more budget chip ofc)

[burnt comet]

Done on purpose

[winter burrow]

Do you guys think the rumble motors can be removed to shave off 20-30grams?

[winter burrow]

I think the finish looks cool. Metal silver color looks terrible on plastic, it looks legit on actual aluminum imo

[loud shuttle]

I’m not gonna lie, I actively had to fight the urge to just say that as my only response since I was focusing on talking in terms of actual gameplay performance.

But yeah, even if this game wasn’t such a mess on Android I’d still question why anyone would want to play it.

[hasty palm]

thx

I like how the theme in rgc's video for the 406H is to wait for the next one

But we had to wait for like a year almost for a new one lol

i mean sure he was saying 'maybe you should wait a month or two to see what they come up with next' and the context of that statement was ANY handheld that ambernic might make... but they really didn't release anything 4:3 in the retroid pocket landscape style for like a year... and even then it was a niche sliding device...

the device is still $180 too 😩

[silk arrow]

This device looking like my endgame handheld

Dpad top

Very powerful chip

No stinky OLED

[hasty palm]

The metal probably only makes it $30-40 more then the eventual non metal that will come out

What do you guys think if they released a non metal version how much less would it be

$50? More?

Feedback has universally been that clicky is bad so I hope they fix that for the release

[tardy valve]

the rumble motors used in these are the kinds used in older cellphones, they weigh less than a gram

[celest sage]

you know a non-metal version will be shaped like the rg cube though

this screen is the same height as the cube screen just wider

[buoyant zealot]

How much less would a plastic version weight?

[celest sage]

we can only speculate there but I imagine it wouldn't weigh much more than the 406h

but that's assuming it's shaped like the 477m

if it's shaped like a wide RG cube it might be like 300g even?

[regal perch]

Maybe you don’t realize, but plastics need to be reinforced in many areas, so the device will be slightly bulkier.

The weight probably comes from the new cooling system and battery, which will remain.

[regal perch]

Depends on the thickness of aluminum used, and how much plastic will be needed to keep a good structural integrity.

[eternal bronze]

This looks so good, the 405M was one of my all time favourites

I probably won't be able to justify the price tag though

[ornate coyote]

I can never justify the price tag but I still buy them.

[regal perch]

You’re telling me that with this level of materials, design, engineering, R&D, labor, manufacturing, software & firmware (etc!) ... it’s still not worth the cost of 15 Big Mac meals in New York?

[copper juniper]

but but but its overpriced 😄

[sand belfry]

https://youtube.com/post/UgkxYSvv_Hmcaub_PB3AlB1sFT2jLrNYGDpx

[tardy valve]

can't wait for the stream =]

[sand belfry]

I’m really busy lately 😫

[surreal pond]

do you really need to sleep?

[toxic tapir]

the first souls game on anbernic

[neon trout]

This device could be the perfect companion to my Odin Portal as I use that more for android games, psp, WiiU and switch. PS2 and GC wide-screen looks a bit funky coz it's stretched out so the 477M could remedy that

Though I might wait for it to be discounted a bit or wait for the 477V/H

[neon trout]

Anbernic should have started at 256gb at that 240$ then 512gb at 290$ that would make sense

[burnt comet]

Ok, send it to me and i will stream it for you

[loud shuttle]

So they either found the same manufacturer and Anbernic doesn’t have an exclusivity deal on the screen they “custom manufactured”, or it was never custom manufactured in the first place.

Either way, at least this means others can use it.

[regal perch]

Yes, but is the 406 screen (60 Hz) or the Slide/477 screen? (120Hz)

[loud shuttle]

Nevermind! It’s screen is 5” 4:3!

Like damn, I was not expecting this.

[fierce yarrow]

why is any of this important. the controls look worse

[loud shuttle]

And it’s, 1024x768…

[silk arrow]

Well shit that’s actually a great resolution

Perfect for a 5” retro handheld

[loud shuttle]

Yeah, the hesitation was mostly a partial reaction to the idea of it being the main screen, but then I remembered that this is the second screen for a dual screen handheld, and that at least makes it way more understandable.

[fierce yarrow]

you're going to be eagle claw gripping it and getting thumb/finger cramps from the controls being that close to the edge

[silk arrow]

Take two of those bad boys and you got a perfect 4X DS device

[regal perch]

Hello Anbernic,
Would it be possible to add screen color adjustment options - such as Saturation and Gamma - to your recent Android devices, like the RG406H/V and the new RG477M?
Almost every review mentions, "I just wish the saturation were higher - more like an OLED."
The community Linux-based devices offer saturation control, and it makes a big difference.

[eager pelican]

that kinda sucks tbh

[loud shuttle]

Eh, I already thought about it in upcoming and it’s honestly fine enough for me since I’d just be playing older retro stuff on it with Sharp Shimmerless anyways. So anything that wants a higher resolution, I’d just play on the top screen anyways.

[eager pelican]

given the price they will ask for this, I would prefer Anbernics 4.7" panel

[loud shuttle]

Oh that’s the main thing I’m wondering about for this thing.

[copper juniper]

I cannot wait to see the price 😄

[loud shuttle]

Are they going for aiming towards a cheaper price point overall instead of just going hog wild and letting it be $500?

[eager pelican]

well, given that they use the G3x Gen2 instead of the G3 Gen3, I can see them trying to keep it around reasonable $399 for the base model

[loud shuttle]

Yup, so if they do manage to keep it at that price, then I’ll give it to them that imo this screen is a neat compromise.

[eager pelican]

should have still asked Anbernic for their 4:3 panel

it's not like Anbernic would lose any customers over this

[copper juniper]

i expect this to be 400 minumum early bird tbh

[lone jay]

something about the n3ds xl layout made my hands go numb within 15 min, so that ones a no go for me

[valid ridge]

How do you feel about the ergo of say, Odin 2 Vs Odin 2 Mini then?

Odin 2 Mini seems like a no go from anyone without small hands imo

[silk arrow]

Did not like the Odin 2, but I was a fan of the Odin 2 mini

[loud shuttle]

Apparently it’s potentially going to be freaking $280-$420.
#1394584145736499201 message

[valid ridge]

I've heard/seen constant posts on Twitter and Reddit about hand cramps and stuff because of it bein so small

[loud shuttle]

I cannot understate how much I actively have a hard time believing it.

[valid ridge]

I doubt anything AyaNeo could be less than 449 tbh

Aside from obviously the Android one they had

Iirc that's 300something?

[fierce yarrow]

this is not anbernic chat

[valid ridge]

Hello Anbernic

[fierce yarrow]

i mean, if you're just venting, that's fine, but they won't ever see this. this discord is just a youtube/fan community

[valid ridge]

@regal perch
From Anbernic's homepage:

Customer service time:Monday~Friday
Submit a ticket：https://support.anbernic.com/support/tickets/new

[silk arrow]

I thought it was well known that anbernic related individuals prowl these threads…

[fierce yarrow]

that's just a rumor. they've never announced their presence like other companies

[silk arrow]

Have you been on their discord lol

They’re pretty hands off when it comes to interacting with the community even on their own server

[azure narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-universe-pepeuniversenft-pepe-observe-pepe-microscope-gif-25130661

[fierce yarrow]

the constant reminder that a percentage of users think this is the -entire- emulation community

[pine bear]

nah Anbernic is not to be found here

[silk arrow]

Sounds like something an agent of anbernic would say

[tardy valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA4aBX4sLv0

[pine bear]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[silk arrow]

Awe hell yeah

Man the D8300 is a beast

When this thing drops in price down the road it’s gonna be a monster

[formal nova]

Which usually means +100$ for western early bird IGG + 150$ for msrp

[feral goblet]

Snapdragon 😉

[fierce yarrow]

heh yeah... mali gpu fanboys 😄

[copper juniper]

and snapdragon fanboys 😄

[lime oyster]

I have an RP Mini, this has me like

[loud shuttle]

A conflict as old as the Android Emulation community.

[copper juniper]

its pathetic but people are tribal and silly like that 😄

[loud shuttle]

It’s at least not without merit in its origin. Mali keeping their drivers locked down is one of the most annoying aspects of their GPU’s, since it means we’re entirely reliant on either them not making the same mistakes that occurred on the T618’s drivers, or we’re reliant on the device manufacturers fixing said mistakes like Retroid did for the RP3+ and Flip 1.

[copper juniper]

Certainly it's not without merit, not contesting that

[silk arrow]

Adreno gpu, Mali gpu, I don’t care man whatever gets me that sweet 2x f zero GX

[loud shuttle]

This doesn’t mean they’re not good when they’re without major issues, but when there are major or even moderate issues, it make things a lot more annoying on the user end, versus just being able to slap in an alternate driver that works better.

[sly shuttle]

Besides a crappy amount of internal storage the base 8GB Ram model enough to do high end Android gaming ?
Im still going back and forth wether the base or higher end model makes more sense , personally think the 12Gb 256 model is kind of overpriced

[copper juniper]

8gb ram should be enough for what you need

[sly shuttle]

Not really interested in Winalator or Switch gaming

[silk arrow]

8gb should be more than enough

That’s what I’m getting

[copper juniper]

if i was going to order this i'd go with the 8/128gb model. That one is reasonably priced

the 12gb model is more than I'd pay but not what id call over the top overpriced either

[sly shuttle]

For some reason I just want something compact and powerful for mostly Android gaming and have other handhelds for emulation

[silk arrow]

And extra $50 is kinda steep imo

[copper juniper]

I'd prefer waiting to see if they do this as a 477P model as i dont have a use for this

[silk arrow]

477v would be peak

[sly shuttle]

That’s what I was thinking

[silk arrow]

I’ll get the 8gb and if they do make a 477V I’ll sell the M and get that

[eager pelican]

those are domestic prices, so I strongly expect $379 as the base early bird

[buoyant zealot]

If that's the price, why wouldnt people just get an RP5?

[pine bear]

RP5 is the new "just get a steam deck bro"

[tardy valve]

https://youtu.be/3Yq24EZI8OQ

[silk arrow]

Pretty much lol

[final isle]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[copper nimbus]

God I wish the rp5 was pocketable

It's basically perfect in every aspect otherwise

[eager pelican]

stick inset is far from perfect

[silk arrow]

16:9 is far from perfect as well

[copper nimbus]

16:9 in a slab formfactor is just asking not pocket

I think 16:10 could work

[valid gale]

Have any of you tried bfi or crt beam? Which one do you prefer?

I might try it on my 120hz phone just to see what its like

[copper nimbus]

I've personally witnessed flickering, and the screen became very dim

perhaps the flickering is because on a 120hz display you might not always get a constant 120hz

but like 119.88 or something like that

[devout estuary]

yeah, same, on my pocket evo it feels like a flickery mess. The brightness on the crt beam is way better than straight BFI though.

[devout estuary]

is there a world where you can literally just clip the stem down on the analog and put the topper back on?

[sly shuttle]

It depends what sticks they use if like the 406H/V series than yes if like the Slide and RG 557 , those were non removable

[silent jacinth]

Call me crazy but I'd love Caanoo style sticks on this

[sly shuttle]

Never had one but more manufacturers should use sliders

[sand belfry]

they are the same as 406h/v

[sly shuttle]

That’s actually great news IMO

[silent jacinth]

Those aren't sliders, they're full analog sticks that are flanked way out. So nothing gets underneath the top of the sticks

[sand belfry]

I have the RG477M - AMA

[silent jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[tardy valve]

i've seen that done, can't cut it down by much & if you take too much off you're kinda screwed, the cap won't clear the shell

[devout estuary]

good point about clearance yeah

[sly shuttle]

Russ had trouble getting controls to be recognized with Dead Cells and GeoForce Now have you come across any Android games/apps where they just flat out didn’t work ?
Im actually looking for a compact handheld that can do high end AAA and maybe sone streaming, the Retroid Mini is just too small a screen

[regal perch]

For high end AAA search for devices with 16:9 screens, not 4:3 CRT-like screens.

[sly shuttle]

I would normally agree 100% but those are usually much more expensive and I don’t like the loud clicky buttons on the RP5

[opaque star]

Compact high-end Android gaming? Odin 2 Mini.

[sly shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[lime oyster]

Almost like double the price tho

[steady zephyr]

im so tempted by this

[tardy valve]

& that miniled screen is hot garbage

[opaque star]

No Anbernic or Retroid is good at the "high end" part. You're either going to want Ayn or Ayaneo.

[sly shuttle]

I hear people hate the Mini LED screen isnt great and is a hundred more

[sand belfry]

I've told Anbernic about the Geforce issue (I haven't tested it), Dead Cells works fine for me (dpad movement, analog stick as camera), Stardew Valley controls work as well but the UI scale is a bit messed up in it

[silk arrow]

I loved the mini led screen

I regret selling my O2M

[opaque star]

Eh ... I'm fine with the miniLED. It's probably the best option you can currently buy for gaming outdoors, if you're into that sort of thing of course.

[sly shuttle]

What is this outdoors thing ?

[sand belfry]

I think Anbernic will push out a software update before launch, so if you get one at launch it may need an update immediately

[opaque star]

If you do all your gaming locked away in a dark closet, well it might be too bright.

[sand belfry]

there's been some talk here and over in the RG577 channel about performance modes/fan noise, also Russ brought it up in his review - this feedback as been forwarded onto Anbernic

[sly shuttle]

Are you trying to shame me ?

[lime oyster]

Boring over world, needs a new update for sure

[regal perch]

Be warned: A 16:9 screen on a 4:3 display looks ridiculously small.

[sand belfry]

I'll forward this onto anbernic, no guarantees of response

[opaque star]

Have you seen the same performance mode issues with the 477? (As in, "auto" mode is too slow for PS2 games like Star Ocean 3 and "high" mode runs PS2 but also the fan almost all the time)

[sand belfry]

I haven't played much PS2 but for PS3 there's a big difference between auto and high so I'm assuming it is using a similar profile to the RG557

[tardy valve]

tell them to give us the option to fully unlock the govenor, even if it turns it into a hot-plate

[opaque star]

On the 557 I've noticed that there is no good performance setting ... auto is too slow (worse performance than T820) and high gives heat/fan issues and drains the battery much like a ROG Ally running a AAA game. I was mainly curious if Anbernic had fixed the issues for the 477, as that would give me at least some hope that the 557 could be made to not suck.

[opaque star]

Also, it's on hardcore mode and you can't switch.

[sand belfry]

RG477M I can run GT4 at 60fps 2x on Auto

[tardy valve]

4?

[sand belfry]

4:3 of course, the native

GT4 for PS2

[tardy valve]

ahh, read gta4, mb

@sand belfry any light bleed? ips glow?

[sand belfry]

nothing stands out on my sample, obviously not OLED black but the backlight is uniform across the screen

[tardy valve]

sweet, glad to hear it 👍

[winter burrow]

AYA proving yet again that they don’t care about ergonomics 🥲

[mystic sable]

gonna skip this device

i saw the review

fan is too loud

its gonna annoy the hell out of me

[steady zephyr]

Yeah I'm worried about that I guess... Everything else seems great tho and I've been waiting for something like this

[devout estuary]

hopefully someone does those better buttons mod for the shoulders

[mystic sable]

i had the same annoyance with Odin1

so when odin2 came and because its so much more performant, i didnt need the fan and i was good

[steady zephyr]

Tbf I use headphones a lot of the time so idk how much I'll even notice

[neon trout]

Yeah anbernic could have gone the Odin Portal route and skip the 256gb option for 512gb at that price point

[mystic sable]

i dont coz i play without sound LOL

anyways im out, not gonna follow devices im not interested

see you all in other channels

[winter burrow]

Has anyone experienced eye fatigue because of BFI? I recently learned that the eye strain we get from CRTs is not bc of playing in a dark room but rather due to the blanking (or black period or flicker) on the CRT. And due to the CRT having a gradual fade out to black between new scan lines, BFI is actually more exaggerated and has a larger blanking/flicker effect. Shouldn’t BFI be terrible for your eyes?

[neon trout]

Battery life could be better but Russ did test it out with the fans on all the time so it might get 10 hours

[steady zephyr]

Idk maybe with extended use? In short sessions on my Ally I haven't felt anything too bad

[obsidian relic]

BFI and similar techniques do increase eye strain/fatigue, but just like pwm flicker, most are not noticeably affected by it.

[mellow osprey]

Controls were fine on Dead Cells, it was Diablo Immortal that didn't register the inputs. Dead Cells would stutter on the high graphics mode.

[winter burrow]

Good to know, just a random question I had

[steady zephyr]

If you're sensitive to that stuff or playing for extended time periods it might bother you but yeah personally I haven't noticed anything

[celest sage]

anbernic give me the 50xxH pls

with the 1024x768 5"

or even better, the 50xxV

[fallen oak]

#👑│champions-lounge message

[quartz hound]

I mean I've been pretty happy with the 40xxv

Would be nice to have that higher res 4" screen though

And maybe a larger battery

There's room there for it

[celest sage]

Yeah I think my dream budget handheld would be a 40xxV without the stick and with the 406 screen

[quartz hound]

I actually found myself not minding the stick and using it

Didn't think I would and honestly thought I'd remove it but it has come in handy

I did end up upgrading it to the nicer capped one

Cause I've honestly started hating the cap of the switch stick

[celest sage]

I can't go back to 480p

[sly shuttle]

My bad , I got the games confused

[hasty palm]

What does this mean

[quartz hound]

i guess what they mean is 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen is small

which is true

[snow flare]

That's ok, all the best games were made before 16:9 screens 😉

[neon trout]

I mean 16:9 content on this screen is literally the same size as the OG PSP

So you're not losing anything really

[delicate lynx]

Yes there is, managed to shove a 5000mah battery in mine. I hear you on the screen but the nice thing about 480p is that it's so common we have tons of shaders and overlays specifically for it. Makes the 40XXv a near-perfect travel device.

[waxen ingot]

480p devices are ewaste

34 is only mildly betger

[earnest sonnet]

Having checked out my fren's 35XXH comparing to my 34XX-H the 480p isn't really that bad, I still prefer the higher reso and more vibrant screen on the 34XX but for retro games the 35XX's 480p is still good enough IMO

[fierce crypt]

do you mean PSP go? 16:9 on the 477M screen is smaller than an OG PSP screen

[waxen ingot]

I don't make the rules

Ewaste

The super sp authority has established

No integer scaling means ewaste

Very sad

[scarlet iris]

The og PSP has a 4.3" screen.

[azure narwhal]

tbh no one bought the pspgo for the eyebleed small screen
They got it because it was small af (but more like they didnt it sold pretty horribly afaik)

[fierce crypt]

that's insane lol

I had to go grab my PSP and compare because my eyes are deceiving me

[azure narwhal]

psp go was 3.8"

[scarlet iris]

Lol that's another reason I called the RG slide the PSP Go XL. Literally a PSP screen size in PSP Go form fctor.

[celest sage]

fun fact, the 406 screen integer scales psp and is the size of a psp go for 16:9 content

[scarlet iris]

Man if we got a Slide with tbe 8300 I would probably get it. Its really hard to justify the price of the 477m or the slide when I have a a flip 2 though lol

[waxen ingot]

You've made a mistake here psp is 30:17

[waxen ingot]

Yum

[plush zodiac]

Anyone debating this or the 557

[scarlet iris]

Huh you're right. That means that it's bgger, not the same.

[waxen ingot]

Spectacular

Are you integer scaling

[scarlet iris]

Nah, not sure if this website does that. Too lazy to find out 😂

[waxen ingot]

Use console to screen

You haven't Inputed a resolution how do they know

[halcyon glen]

Which site is this again, I forget.

[waxen ingot]

3.2 inches

[waxen ingot]

Display wars

[scarlet iris]

Displaywars

[eternal bronze]

I only remembered the 557 existed when I saw the specs of the 477. I think that says it all lol

[plush zodiac]

lol

[south birch]

I make the rules

[crimson ibex]

[fierce crypt]

[south birch]

If it doesn't integer scale it's ewaste

[azure narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-homer-simpson-mulitply-gif-27179917

shit its multiplying

anyone got a vat of acid

[topaz ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-walter-walt-uh-gif-11738409521439998250

[fierce crypt]

GAMMA!

[topaz ermine]

YESSIR

I have a global BFI feature I'm adding to GammaOS

[fierce crypt]

fans are nutso on the 477M, please fix

https://tenor.com/view/help-me-obi-wan-kenobi-you're-my-only-hope-princess-leia-organa-star-wars-a-new-hope-help-i-need-your-assistance-gif-15870351959124924615

[topaz ermine]

But I think it might work on the Slide/447 stock firmware

[waxen ingot]

We'll be legion by the release of the super sp

Oh I'll have so many Google accounts

[final isle]

447 🥀

[topaz ermine]

Need my unit to come quicker!

[final isle]

Joined July 29th 😭

[south birch]

I was busy

[fierce crypt]

super sp when?

[south birch]

Soon

[topaz ermine]

If anyone wants to try out Global BFI, I've got this as an overlay for non-gamma firmwares. Requires CPU to be set to high mode, and screen to be set to 120hz fixed.
Happy experimenting, this isn't a perfect solution but a cool Proof of Concept

back to bed I go

[waxen ingot]

Wise sage is this ewaste

[south birch]

No my disciple, it is not

[waxen ingot]

Thank you

[regal perch]

They got back to me—apparently, they think "color saturation" means color temperature.
Yeah… totally the same thing. 🙄

[topaz ermine]

Pretty

sadly still no bootloader unlock, same issue as the 557

and confirmed, no root

[prisma grotto]

man that lil ayaneo tho

[topaz ermine]

Works somewhat on the 447m, nice playing with BFI on android games (trying sonic triple trouble 16 bit remake at the moment)

[shut cedar]

Yesss gamma os for micro classic soon

[topaz ermine]

With GammaBFI enabled (can be toggled via setting prop debug.gammabfi = 1 / 0

A better comparison

[opaque star]

People didn't get it because of the price, really. Too expensive at the time for "a PSP".

[neon trout]

That's why I said playing psp on this screen, you have no loss of content whatsoever because it's literally the same size

[pine bear]

https://youtu.be/ouOUSR8Ai0A?si=B4VRpuen6KpBqW79

"just get an RP5 bro"

[eager pelican]

the appeal is the display tho

and the 8/128 SKU is relatively reasonable priced

[topaz ermine]

This display is really nice

4:3 content looks massive and crisp

[regal perch]

If you love wasted screen and black lateral bars while playing retro systems, be our guest and buy the RP5

[eager pelican]

already got the nice display with the SLIDE, maybe the grip I ordered will make it comfortable enough to actually use it

[lusty star]

Breaking your legs just so you can use crutches is crazy

[eager pelican]

I mean using it as a fidget toy is still fun, but it's just not comfortable to hold at an angle that I would actually play it at

[pine bear]

I think at this point you gotta capitulate and admit that not every new handheld that comes out is always gonna be worth buying lol

[eager pelican]

I mean, I wouldn't recommend the SLIDE to anyone, but heck, I still wanted one

but honestly the "SLIDE" I would want wouldn't slide out controls but a 2nd screen, still a lil mad the Ayaneo Slide has a stinky QWERTY keyboard instead

[proven vortex]

What's the next-most-recent anbernic metal handheld similar to the 477?

[copper juniper]

405m?

[proven vortex]

Is that still a decent device these days? For like, systems with aspect ratios that make sense

[valid gale]

If you get it for cheap its still a decent device for what it does

[silk arrow]

Dang the 405M is really 8 years old. Man I feel old now

[fierce yarrow]

wtf are you talking about

[frigid slate]

2023 was 8 years ago?

[loud shuttle]

What? No, it was released in March 28, 2023.

[fierce yarrow]

dude's been not okay lately

[loud shuttle]

Like, there was the Retro Game which was November of 2017, but that very obviously is not the same type of handheld as the 405M or 477M.

[frigid slate]

Maybe the Super SP syndrome is contagious.

[final isle]

You guys really took the bait

[silk arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ginger-root-hook-dance-fishing-mahjong-room-gif-25514520

[fierce yarrow]

this chat is for 18 and up kiddo.

[loud shuttle]

You realize there’s a difference between bait and just saying something that’s wrong right?

[final isle]

Yes

This wasn't that though lol

[silk arrow]

I thought it was obvious but I guess not…

[loud shuttle]

If that’s bait, then I could just lazily say “why is the Switch 2 already a thing, the Switch is too new for that, it hasn’t even been 4 years yet” and call that bait.

[fierce yarrow]

#🕹│rh-general is in slow mode. the adhd posters are spreading to other channels. just let it slide, dude

[final isle]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-it's-just-the-way-it-is-i'm-just-the-messenger-gif-6270475095135913721

[silk arrow]

[loud shuttle]

Fair enough on the messenger bit, I guess.

[lusty star]

Nah people still believe Mangmi is gonna be $69 and will release next week

[silk arrow]

But you see that bait ended up being true

[fierce yarrow]

you know what will be releasing next weak for under 69, lol?
the e5 ultra.

[lusty star]

Nah they are taking their sweet time rn and it’ll be $90 min for global

[silk arrow]

Sub $100 is still impressive

[loud shuttle]

Although if I really wanted to troll people, I’d just tell some Xbox fans “don’t worry the Series S and X aren’t failures, they combined did almost as well as the N64”.

[short quest]

Whaaaaaat? I've had a PSP1000 since launch and would have NEVER thought it to be 4:3.

[silk arrow]

That wouldn’t be a troll cuz it’s true

[short quest]

Oh the output with the letterbox is the same as the original PSP?

[loud shuttle]

It’s a troll because it’s the truth, but said with malicious politeness.

[silk arrow]

But truth nonetheless

[terse kettle]

https://geekbuying.allapp.link/d24cv39qljop4d3cui2g

Just found it on geekbuying

Not sure if old news

[eager pelican]

ehhh, I will pass $319 is excessive 😅

[terse kettle]

https://anbernic.com/products/rg477m

Also anbernic page is up

[terse kettle]

Yeah bit expensive for my taste. Will wait for sales

AliE Link too
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGTw3Dc

[final isle]

The first ever AI console, incredible

[eager pelican]

I mean it's the 12gb model, but even at $279 it should be more like 250€... and I doubt they properly vat it, yet it feels like they slap 50€ on top for that + 20€ shipping

damn, really overpriced, but Ali has vat included at least on the store page as the price is shown 253€ for the 8/128 and 307€ for the 12/256

[terse kettle]

Yeah unless a company uses 4px. This will get taxed coming into the UK

[eager pelican]

well, I will wait for it to get to a reasonable price point either way, 200€ shouldn't be too unrealistic for the 8/128 SKU

[regal perch]

Do as I do. Every time I buy a console that replaces another, I sell the previous one (after). That way doesn't seem so bad.

[terse kettle]

Wonder if Ampown site will stock, they seemed to have good deals on the Slide last time 😅

[eager pelican]

indeed they did, already checked but the rg477m ain't up there yet

neither on gogamegeek (which had shit prices for a while now anyway) nor keepretro

[copper juniper]

Have some patience 😄

[eager pelican]

no

[lusty star]

Still more patient than @waxen ingot

[waxen ingot]

are you mad??

ive been waiting for months!

is this ragebait?

[lusty star]

And @south birch

[proven vortex]

What color ya'll thinking

[waxen ingot]

the wise sage has been waiting all their life

they skipped the ds and 3ds because they were in a cave meditating on integer scaling gba

when they came out they realized the resolution they chose was insufficient

so they doubled it

beatiful story

[south birch]

Me and @fringe oasis meditated together in that cave

[fringe oasis]

Absolutely true

Beautiful experience

[loud shuttle]

I’m just gonna go ahead and warn anyone unaware that we were already warned in advance what this would lead to.

[crimson ibex]

Alts are gone

[loud shuttle]

Yup, already knew when I watched the execution with my own eyes.

[celest sage]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-death-execution-death-penalty-sorrow-gif-25100565

[azure narwhal]

does the original count as an alt

can it be gone

[waxen ingot]

I'll get their souls to chat or smth when the super sp is announced

[silent jacinth]

Video out confirmed, sweet

I really kinda hate the RGB sticks on this, they look awful with the metal

Especially the chocolate

[hasty palm]

sold out cool

[fierce crypt]

It’s not for sale yet

[crimson ibex]

GUYS ITS SOLD OUT

OMG

NO

[azure narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/it-keeps-getting-funnier-every-single-time-i-see-it-betelgeuse-michael-keaton-beetlejuice-gif-18985089

[waxen ingot]

Raaah super sp

[burnt comet]

Choose: brown or black

[silent jacinth]

The gunmetal RG405M was so gorgeous. Understated and refined in person. Every Anbernic since then has been a design downgrade

||excluding the ones designed by Nintendo of course||

[silent jacinth]

Black, no questions asked. I've never seen a brown handheld look good. Nintendo came close with the DSi XL but that was also literally marketed to grandparents.

I'll be getting the silver as the lesser of two evils, but the buttons being colorful are such a mistake imo

[tawny scaffold]

You might be able to buy the black buttons separately and replace them yourself

Anbernic sells some parts if you message them iirc

[earnest sonnet]

if the alu is anodized like some custom keyboards are, then brown is a no go IMO, they always look kidna.... cheap...

[silent jacinth]

It's just a bad color choice in general

Forgive the super sloppy phone edit but I just think this looks about a thousand times better already

[delicate lynx]

Absolute L take regarding one of the most elegant-looking handhelds ever made.

[silent jacinth]

It's elegant in pictures but if you play anything other than Brain Age on it it looks absolutely ridiculous. I agree that the DSi/XL in general is one of the best looking handhelds ever but the burgundy/brown is the weakest color of the bunch and the resale values support that

[frigid slate]

I'd like to see the 353m purple again.

[delicate lynx]

I literally own the bronze DSi XL and you are completely hallucinating.

If anything it looks better in-person.

The only complaint I have about the 477 is that the protective grip would look better if it was black. It would look better on the silver and bronze.

[silent jacinth]

I literally own the white DSi LL and I am completely correct

[delicate lynx]

All-white handhelds are offensively boring. It's like you're making a statement to the entire world that the spiciest thing you can handle is mayonaise.

[ornate coyote]

Ok where do we get a replacement fan that is less noisy.

[plucky abyss]

1588 RMB is the absolute lowest you can get the 8GB variant for

@compact osprey is this worth it at that price over say the Flip 2?

Flip 2 is like mid-1600s over here

[compact osprey]

How much is the Rp5? Lol

[eager pelican]

Technically the d8300 dwarfs the 865

Up to GCN/PS2 it will perform better easily

[plucky abyss]

~1600

I do prefer the Anbernic screen aspect ratio though lol

[compact osprey]

Then definitely go for it

[plucky abyss]

sounds good!

[compact osprey]

I play alot of 16:9 stuff on my 4 pro because it's 16:9 specifically lol

[plucky abyss]

oh yeah I just don't play a lot of 16:9 stuff

[compact osprey]

Psp & Wii

[plucky abyss]

good to know that I can deliberate between this and the E5Ultra lol, exciting times

[compact osprey]

And I use a Metric Poop ton of Wide-screen Hacks now

[plucky abyss]

obviously different class of device but I'm not using every drop of power from the 477M for the games I play

[compact osprey]

Ps2 & GC with Wide-screen Hacks, HD textures, etc.

Plus Ship if Harkarina & all the Amdroid Ports make 16:9 my fav for all of that. Plus I have other 4:3 & 1:1 devices for my other needs on anything less than psp

[copper nimbus]

I've always been objective about aspect ratios. In my mind the main reason for thinner aspect ratios to exist is for pocketability reasons.

If the system cannot play for psp library, 3:2 and thinner makes the most sense whatever the size is

[compact osprey]

Once I literally could not fit my 4 pro in my pocket.......I wanted it to perform like a Beast

[plucky abyss]

Iove the Miyoo flip so much for this reason

it's so pocketable

reminds me of my phone during the pre-smartphone era

[copper nimbus]

vetical handhelds do seem to excel in 4:3 and thinner aspect ratios generally when it comes to pocketability

a 16:9 vertical handhelds looks cursed and never pocketable

Even with horizontal handhelds I've done mesurements and it seems like you cannot really go bigger than 5 inches when it comes to 16:9 content. You can go taller but not wider. Theoretically the maximum screensize a pocketable horizontal can have is around a 3:2 5.2 inch screen. Although it depends on your pocket sizes. I've heard people only be able to fit a trimui brick in their pockets.

[plucky abyss]

yeah some pockets are tiny

[sand belfry]

the image on Anbernic website is quite accurate for the colour

the light is coming from the top left

in darker lighting it will look like the right side of this image

[regal perch]

@topaz ermine or anyone else, can you try dialing down the vibration on RetroArch (to 1 or so) to see if the noisy vibration motors are software fixable?

[topaz ermine]

It won't be, vibrations are handled via Androids vibratorservice layer which has no concept of PWM type rumble effects (it only does off or on, with a specificed duration).

GammaOS fixes this and emulates proper PWM effects (you can try on the 556 for example, which has a terrible motor).

[burnt comet]

Wth was max zhou thinking when chosing this color?

I just went to the toilet #2 and it looked exactly like this

[topaz ermine]

I've been poking at the 557 today, the shell script options in the UI don't run as proper root level due to SELinux enforcement, so we can't even dump partitions or run any binaries that require root :/

even though there is an anbernicsu binary in /system/bin/ it only runs under the android system context

forget about any apps that might let you set CPU governors etc, nothing will work here.

the 477M is a nice machine though, and that display is really good

I like it, just mindful that customization will be limited to what you can do in Android currently 👍

[regal perch]

Thanks for your answer.
In my 406H I was able to dial down the rumble on Colin McRae Rally using RetroArch settings, although stock Android doesn’t offer any sensitivity adjustment.

[regal perch]

Either that or a dreamt about it …

[burnt comet]

People with ocd aint gonna buy it

Look at how uneven the screen is

Compared to

Bezels on the bottom

[copper nimbus]

much better that the bezels on the rg34xxsp

[burnt comet]

I am gonna buy one and then livestream me spraying it black with metal paint. And i will only take the back cover off , easy. But i will spray it with the dpad, buttons still on it!

[eager pelican]

Why

[burnt comet]

These 2 colours are awful, the brown looks like 💩 and that silver is unfinished, just like russ said

Look how beautiful that 405m silver is.

Anbernic knows how to fuck up colours

Just paint it black or dark grey

[eager pelican]

Yeah I'm aware that Anbernic made it their mission to do the most atrocious colors

[silent jacinth]

Death to Skittles buttons

[copper nimbus]

black buttons would look infinitely better

[topaz ermine]

Android vibratorservice API vs GammaOS driver

[tardy valve]

that's wild, wish they'd get smart & throw you some contract work or something lol

at least license your driver

not that whatever 3rd party puts their images together cares about licenses tho

[topaz ermine]

3rd party can't spell anbernic properly in code

[celest sage]

I thought for a moment that was an odin 2 running gammaOS lol

[topaz ermine]

I see a lot of references to anbanic

[tardy valve]

lmfaooo

[topaz ermine]

I used to have an Odin 2, I swapped it for a Pocket Air for development

[surreal pond]

most likely there was a reference in a file 10 years ago and nobody wants to poke the dragon

[regal perch]

Since no root on this thing, I was searching for alternative ways

[regal perch]

Probably there there are several ways to transliterate the Chinese characters to English. They are culturally isolated and even don’t care that the international way is “Anbernic”.

[devout estuary]

Premium content, subscribed!

[sly shuttle]

Run !

[topaz ermine]

unrelated, but this will never not be funny to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acRjCp_pMFA

[hasty palm]

You’re not objectively correct tho since best colour is subjective

The brown 477m color offered by anbernic doesn’t even look bad it’s metallic so the brown shifts in grade depending on the angle. I think it looks better than the silver one which looks unfinished in a bad way. A gunmetal blue would be more ideal tho

[ornate coyote]

Well in keeping with Anbernic screwing one thing up each release, hopefully this time it’s just the metal finish.

The brown finish is nicer than the raw silver, but..,, it’s effing brown.

[tawny scaffold]

im hoping for a plastic model
id buy an 8GB plastic one for that huge screen and d8300

they dropped the ball not having the 405M colors for this one, at least as extra options

[fierce yarrow]

ironically if this was just a regutted(working) ktr1, people would be -all over it-

[copper nimbus]

I personally would want plastic 8gb, t820

[fierce yarrow]

if anbernic gave the cube less of a "butt" or even removeable cheeks, it would be that.

[hasty palm]

It doesn’t look like brown brown tho

Like stinky brown

It looks more like a shiny bronze finish

Like an Apple product

[valid ridge]

Ngl 405m is still better, 477m looks cheaper and it's sym

The finish on it looks a lot worse whatever way they did it

[short quest]

It's a throwback to the 350M silver imo.. which I loved.

But I'm still going to buy the brown

[short quest]

It think the finish looks better but I can see why some might not like it.

Do you guys think this color resin would make ok joystick caps for the brown unit? Thinkin of making some with this resin to release on http://www.hypestix.com but I'm super color blind and not sure they would match well/

Probably going to need to make some to see.

[sly shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[short quest]

but why?

does it not match

or just because it's brown?

or is it more red than I can see?

[hollow estuary]

Until you can hold that color up against the shell you won't know if it really matches or not

It'll look great if it's a match, otherwise it'll be an eyesore lol

[fierce crypt]

I think lighting for the silver matters. It actually doesn't look that bad in person. If anything hate the skittles buttons on the silver which takes away from it.

[hollow estuary]

I personally hate skittle buttons on almost everything. I don't think they ever match the device

[fierce crypt]

100% Agree 😅

[short quest]

Yeah the buttons are the biggest factor I want the brown to be honest.

[fierce crypt]

and Anbernic ALWAYS uses it in the wrong way

[hollow estuary]

I'd much rather have abxy match the other buttons and dpad lol

[short quest]

Those Nova sticks do look nice.

[fierce yarrow]

see if the d8300 can play halo 1, RTD

[fierce crypt]

There's a pretty cool Discord user here that makes them

[fierce yarrow]

should be easy to drop into winlator mali.

[short quest]

My question is.. did Anbernic put one of the joysticks in at 90 degrees different than the other one..the shafts look like that inside the picture you posted of the sticks.

[fierce crypt]

I've been messing with the latest Winlator because of Vortek but I can mess around with that as well

[fierce yarrow]

i only suggest it because it is one of the few pc 6th gen games too much for the t820 and t618

[fierce crypt]

so far what I've found is that if it works with the D8300 then it works REALLY well

the power is definitely there

[short quest]

nm I think it's just how the pic looks

I wouldn't put it past Anbernic to do something weird like that though.

[fierce yarrow]

i thought tron 2.0 would be too much for t820, but it locks 60 for most parts of the game i've played so far on normal graphics. would be beautiful on this with all graphics cranked to max

[short quest]

I'm just a sucker for the metal variants

[urban flame]

I wonder if it's us old guys that love the Skittles buttons?
I remember when I first saw the Super Famicom on an issue of EGM. Retro heart flutters.

[short quest]

Or maybe the old European guys lol

US kids we only remember the 2tone blue purple

[urban flame]

Yeah, and I was very disappointed when I saw that our version had that purple coloring! But the four colors have still become iconic for retro gaming fans. Original Xbox, Neo Geo, SNES in many places, etc.

[heavy mason]

3rd party snes controllers often had skittles in the US

the ascii pad being one of the most popular

[regal perch]

Amazing work

[eager pelican]

well, US were the only ones without skittles, so why would 3rd parties bother to make a different version for ya guys

[waxen ingot]

Yum

[burnt comet]

Poll Time

https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaRXjWg3

[ebon mango]

Yes

[eager pelican]

why are they always drunk making these devices

[fierce crypt]

yup, I can confirm mine is like that as well

[valid gale]

That's wild lol

How noticeable is it in person

[ebon mango]

Not at all with the caps on

[fierce crypt]

it's only noticeable because I'm using transparent caps

it's a non-issue

just hilarious

[ebon mango]

So far my main two issues with the device is the fan and the wake the dead shoulder button clicks

[fierce crypt]

the fan is insane

[valid gale]

Yea that sucks forsure. Especially cause youre gonna need it for a metal device

[ebon mango]

It won’t let you turn fan off or use custom curve in high performance mode so you have to accept the noise if you’re pushing the performance

[fierce crypt]

Yes, this is driving me insane

It doesn’t really need to be turned way up like that when in high performance mode

[ebon mango]

Time to open it and unplug fan . how long to burn my fingers

[topaz ermine]

I noticed it spins up even when installing apps. "WHIRRR-WHiirrr-whirrrr-whiirr....off"

[ebon mango]

Yes the auto mode is annoying AF

On and off constantly

[topaz ermine]

Once you remove the backplate (4 screws), the fan connector is actually under a sticker and easy to remove (and a PITA to plug back in)

[ebon mango]

Maybe I’ll do that for my review and see how hot it gets heh

[topaz ermine]

I'll see if there is any override

[ebon mango]

Maybe a root script can be run?

[topaz ermine]

root is broken on this 😄

there is no root

[ebon mango]

Oh. Didn’t the 557 w same chip allow scripts run as root

Regression.

[topaz ermine]

they removed root on latest firmwares

oooh interesting I have some additional options on my fan settings

[opaque star]

DIdn't they patch that out in an update because a bunch of Android games wouldn't run? Chinese market loves its gachas, after all.

[ebon mango]

Possible

[topaz ermine]

yeah can disable the fan in normal performance mode

[ebon mango]

Yeah I knew that but not in high mode

Forces auto or strong

[eager pelican]

leave the hardware alone, we just need to fix the fan curve... why can't Anbernic not fuck up for once

[topaz ermine]

just decompiled their firmware, we can force the fan off in high mode via adb:
adb shell settings put system fan_mode 0

[eager pelican]

Gamma to the rescue

[ebon mango]

Nice

[topaz ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-intel-too-hot-gif-14315286

[ebon mango]

When I get back home maybe I’ll see if I can do some stress test benchmarks and see how different fan modes affect throttling (or not)

[opaque star]

Heck, on my RG557 Wild Life Extreme Stress won't even complete unless the fan is set to "strong". (I should add ... when cpu is set to "high")

[ebon mango]

That doesn’t bode well lol

[opaque star]

I see you've found footage of what it's like inside an RG557 ... 🙃

[short quest]

but now I want a teardown to see if it's dumb luck or a real thought out decision they made to put it like that?

and did they have to ( we won't know without source ) do some wonky programming to make that work?

[opaque star]

... so i'm curious to see what the RG477M does under really heavy loads. Not curious enough to BUY one (since I already have a 557), mind you, but if one of y'all who got a free one could see if we can grill tiny steaks on it while running 3DMark benchmarks ... 🥩

[fierce crypt]

ABSOLUTE LEGEND

now we just need custom fan curves and we're golden

[fierce crypt]

possibly the way the cable connects to the board

[short quest]

Gamma saved android for Anbernic on the 505 and continues to be the man the myth and the LEGEND

[valid gale]

There has to be a way to slow the fan down

Or replace the damn thing lol

[regal perch]

Is this reboot persistent?

[topaz ermine]

no, the original logic kicks back in on reboot

[regal perch]

OK. Probably not even performance mode is persistent

[fierce crypt]

fwiw, I am in contact with Anbernic and trying to get them to fix this in an update.

at least give us the custom curve option

[topaz ermine]

BTW that Custom setting in the fan settings only lets you set a constant speed between 0-255 via adb:

# Pick a speed between 0 and 255 (e.g. 200)
adb shell settings put system KEY_FAN_SPEED 200

# Tell the 477M to go into “Custom” mode (mode index 4)
adb shell settings put system fan_mode 4

# Then close and open the quick settings again, the custom speed will be applied

[topaz ermine]

the fan mode override isn't persistent even on sleep/resume too

[regal perch]

I’m thinking the lowest fan setting is probably quiet enough and still sufficient for most retro gaming - but someone correct me if I’m wrong.

[urban quail]

Neither.

[urban quail]

Then it wouldn't be the Cube..

[fierce yarrow]

it's the cube because of the square screen, not because of the grips

[regal perch]

I used to have a Powkiddy RGB30 (1:1), but I ended up stretching most retro systems because I don’t like wasted screen space. Honestly, that was kind of silly — what I really needed was a 4:3 display. So I switched to the 406H.
Unfortunately, the 406H is the bulkiest handheld I’ve ever owned - and it’s even worse with the analog sticks sticking out.

[urban quail]

To have full sticks or not have full sticks, that's the question for a pocketable Android gaming handheld.

[lone jay]

i wonder if replacing the fan with a higher quality one would suffice

[celest dust]

Going live in 2 hours https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9_odLU3y5Yg

Zu's impressions: https://youtu.be/ouOUSR8Ai0A

[sly shuttle]

Since they used the taller sticksI really wished they flared the shoulders and used stacked buttons, I can live with inline on a budget handheld but doesn’t make much sense for something that isn’t that pocketable to begin with

[fierce yarrow]

don't think this is meant to be a pocketable handheld tbh

it's definitely the size of a small stash bag

[final isle]

Wonder how hard it would be to put the rg557 sticks in this

[short quest]

I remember in the early days I'd message Max zou (spelling) by emailing him directly and he'd reply a bunch but not in recent years lol. I emailed their support a bunch since whenever I try to help them discover bugs

[opaque star]

Anbernic: "Let's make our flagship huge handheld have tiny sticks, and let's make the one that's supposed to be close to pocketable have the large sticks. Take that, consumers!"

[topaz ermine]

I did a thing. Won't say much else as I don't want this to be patched by MTK

[eternal bronze]

A few hours until shipping officially starts and Gamma has already rooted it. I'd say that's a new world record 😄

[topaz ermine]

Nice to see GammaRGB working on this

[eternal bronze]

Nice, I love it on my 406V, too

[silent jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

A few hours?

[crimson ibex]

Okay now that's pretty damn sick

[fierce yarrow]

oh wait this is upcoming > 477m. not upcoming-chat. deleting that stuff

[crimson ibex]

[delicate lynx]

I really like the in-line shoulder buttons. It drives me crazy that EVERY premium device and MOST of the budget horizontals have stacked shoulders and it's not enough for some a y'all.
It's okay if every single device isn't catered specifically to your tastes.

[ornate coyote]

You don’t want to disable the fan and melt it. You want to replace the fan with one that is less noisy at full load. Even if it’s pushing half the air volume. Not sure what sort of easily available options there are for that size.

[ebon mango]

I don’t hate the inline. Just wish they weren’t so clicky

[delicate lynx]

Remember the RGB30? Same vertical height as the 447 with inline buttons. That brick was the comfiest handheld I ever used.

[sly shuttle]

It was also the one that died on me the quickest

[delicate lynx]

Beside the point. 👀

[sly shuttle]

It was my point

[delicate lynx]

What does it dying have to do with the buttons being inline?

[sly shuttle]

The inline triggers made it die quicker

[delicate lynx]

[final isle]

I like the inline shoulders, just wish the sticks weren't so long

That's my only major complaint with the design tbh

[pine bear]

okay I caught up to reviews, honestly it looks like a great handheld, just wish it wasn't a metal brick

[dim echo]

Honestly, the real issue is when you get up to GameCube and ps2, you really want the triggers to be analog, and in line doesn’t really have the room to do that? But yeah, if they’re digital, in line, and only stacked if it’s gonna be analog triggers.

[eternal bronze]

PS2 did not have analog triggers, only Gamecube used them for some games like Super Mario Sunshine

[obsidian relic]

Ps2 does not have analog "triggers", but they have pressure sensitive buttons for almost every button (including l2/r2) which is analog.

[eternal bronze]

Wow, I've played a lot of PS2 but I had no idea lol! What games made use of that?

[waxen ingot]

Oh man I'll never be able to emulate PS2 if that's so

[obsidian relic]

I think the usual racing games or games with vehicles etc. Others not so much, or at least not as significant/unbypassable.

Remember the bouncers using it quite extensively (for the attacks etc) , star ocean 3 there is a part where you have to play some flute you need them as well (have to use the pressure modifier function/hotkey in emulator to get around that and/or bind to analog triggers).

I definitely don't know the dpad is pressure sensitive until I search on the web, don't know how it's used in games if any at all.

[celest sage]

THIS

every new device "why isn't this just the RP5 again"

[silk arrow]

Just get the RP5 bro

Snapdragon

Turnip drivers

[waxen ingot]

Just get a steam deck

[urban quail]

Just get a RG Slide.

[eternal bronze]

I don't play a lot of racing games and I never liked the feel of analog triggers. Definitely prefer inline triggers for portability

[heavy mason]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/comments/1mekfqx/it_happened_again/

[celest sage]

https://tenor.com/view/well-thats-not-good-eugene-levy-johnny-johnny-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20853798

[loud shuttle]

Ah, Anbernic Quality Control and customer support continue to be the same as usual.

[celest sage]

ah, he ordered both from amazon

probably a dropped box of them in the warehouse or something lol

[silk arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/delivery-kick-gif-10731986

[hasty palm]

does anyone actually run that filter that retro handhelds has on his 477m video

[waxen ingot]

How is this even a suggestion on the same level rg slop isn't comparable to high quality stuff

[devout estuary]

I would absolutely do the better button mod from the 405m on this though if they make it

[urban quail]

Last time I checked, the RG477M is a RG device.

[waxen ingot]

Ya it's slop tol

Other recs included rp5👍👍👍😁😁😁😁😁

And steam deck👍👍👍😁😁😁😁😁

[urban quail]

You're the annoying part of giving some new devices a change.

[waxen ingot]

Huh

Oh it's metal

Nvm

Oh but it's android

And it's powerful

But it's mediatek

Ngl ewaste

If not for ps2

[urban quail]

Eh, you'll play PS2 games fine on it.

[tender hinge]

How big is this compared to an rpmini?

Kinda tempted to sell one to buy the other, love the big screen and bfi

One reason I went with the rpmini was for shmups which gives 3.2” while this gives 3.5”

[silent jacinth]

If you care mainly about vertical shmups, buy this for the biggest screen in the "pocketable" universe or buy the RP mini v2 for the best screen size to side bezels ratio

The black RP mini also has a really nice "magic screen" effect and bezels effectively completely disappear

The RP mini has buttcheeks and better triggers; the 477m has arguably the best sleekness to performance ratio ever

There's also a comparison here https://www.youtube.com/live/9_odLU3y5Yg?t=4401&si=96H8bO2oDune4Uio

[tender hinge]

I currently have the black v2

Which I love but is possibly a tiny bit too small for me, which the 477 may fix. Even if not as ergonomic

[neon trout]

Dude it's more powerful than the RP5 for PS2

[tender hinge]

Thinking more about classic shmups, this devices size and shape might be pretty comfortable to hold rotated 90 degrees and use all the 4.7 inch screen with bfi 😍

[copper juniper]

Careful you're going to bring in the snapdragon army with that talk 😄

[neon trout]

Lol

I have previously owned the RP5 and now the Odin Portal

So I should be bashing this device along with them but I'm giving my praises rn

I think someone on Reddit has personally DM one of the staff and said a plastic version of this will come out in Oct

Hopefully gonna be sooner tho

[eager pelican]

ehhh, I mean... can we really wait till October to purchase this

[exotic quarry]

When asked if there will be a plastic version of the 477M, Max Zhou said "No." But of course, we can't take everything he says at face value

[latent lark]

They should do the 407H with this screen and chipset to please everyone.

[tender hinge]

V please

[eager pelican]

it would be 477H or V tho and no we ain't getting a 477H or 477P, they didn't do it for the 405m either

[tender hinge]

A V with a 4.7” screen hmm

Chonky

[toxic tapir]

i would get the 477v

[exotic quarry]

When you play GBA at 3:2 without integer scaling, the active area is 4.52", which is similar to the KTR1 or Pocket Ace

[latent lark]

Lovely

[eager pelican]

KTR1 and Pocket ACE also don't integer scale at 4.5", it's a 4.5x upscale at that point

[latent lark]

This is truly the ideal screen size for a retro handheld

[eager pelican]

ideal, no, but best we have at the moment

a 1920x1440p screen would integer scale everything

you literally would get an 8x GBA integer scale at 4.5" on an 4.7" 1920x1440p panel

[copper nimbus]

rg47xxh

[latent lark]

oh yeah an increased resolution of course but I think 4.7 for size is where its at

[eager pelican]

kinda weird choice to do 4.7" instead of 4.5", but I ain't complaining

[latent lark]

so beautiful. I call it, Roman Armor Bronze or Steam Punk Copper

[burnt comet]

Ktr1 looks brilliant , black with no bezels , just wow 😳

Look how clean compared to that silver black skitties mess

[burnt comet]

Some just call it 💩 brown

[celest sage]

RGB30 gives you 3.5” of vertical 3:4 arcade and is super pocketable fwiw

Feels super cheap, also is super cheap

[eternal bronze]

It does look very steam punk

[burnt comet]

This should be pinned ! Time will tell

[burnt comet]

It is ok Max, you don’t have to make a plastic 4,7 inch 4:3 handheld.

Retroid will do it for us. Soon.

Paid by a mortgaged house.

[copper juniper]

which im still unconvinced whether they are just bullshitting on the mortgaged claim 😂

[eternal bronze]

I wonder if they're going to do a 477V - or if they skip it for the RG Slide

[latent lark]

it would certainly be a chonker

[eternal bronze]

After the TrimUI Brick we'll get the RG Sh*thouse

[eager pelican]

I'm not sure if I even would buy a 477V, it would be interesting for sure, but at that size there would be lil sense to it IMO

[silk arrow]

I sure hope they do 477V

[eternal bronze]

It would surely be a challenge for the design people

[silk arrow]

Just scale the cad file for the 406V up a little bit and call it a day

[copper nimbus]

that looks just like my dsi xl

[eternal bronze]

Only the x and y coordinates please :p

[silk arrow]

No we need it to be extra thick too

For an 8000wh battery

[eager pelican]

lets do 10000mAh

[silk arrow]

12000mah

Go big or go home

[eternal bronze]

36 hours of non stop NES

[eager pelican]

with GammaOS 72hours

[silk arrow]

The dream

[eager pelican]

you know what, let's do 15000mAh so we can do full 100hours NES on GammaOS

[silk arrow]

Now you’re speaking my language

If you’re seeing this Max Zhou or one of your spies, please take notes

[eager pelican]

rg477v, more powerbank than handheld

[copper nimbus]

My powerbank is only 10000mAh

[pine bear]

that sucks, but of course the rg477m is launching just now, he would not want to lose sales by saying another version is coming

[shut cedar]

Next generation for sure

[eternal bronze]

Does it play PS2?

[latent lark]

imagine the 407H, plastic, lighter weight, ergonomic humps, stacked shoulder buttons, with this screen and chipset

it would be then endgame device for a lot

I would buy it too

[eager pelican]

rejected, stick on top, shield d-pad, ergos... 🤢

[latent lark]

hmm actually it wouldnt be pocketable so i would prefer it metal too and i'd want stick on bottom

[regal perch]

There is never a console that satisfies everyone.
If you want 4:3, they already have the 406V, the 406H and now the 477M.
They will probably not release anything else 4:3 for a year.

[eager pelican]

they totally will

the panel ain't making money by itself

477V or 477H may entirely possible, more 4:3 device are also more likely than another 16:9

but I think we might get to see a Dual Screen with the 4.7" as the bottom panel

[copper nimbus]

Hell yeah

[eager pelican]

kinda would be nice with something like the Pocket Fit screen at the top 6" 1080p high refresh rate

[delicate lynx]

You might as well integer scale, you're only losing .3 inches. Really good GBA screen,

[copper nimbus]

Well.. Losing 0.3 inches is kinda personal preference tbh

very high ppi

I think you could argue interpolation might be a better choice

[delicate lynx]

Ahh, see, but right now I play GBA on my 40XXv, so from my perspective I'm actually gaining .2 inches. 😏

[regal perch]

On 720p+ screens that integer scale talk makes almost no sense.
Besides, we have incredible shaders like sharp-shimerless that fixes everything

[copper nimbus]

Lmao, rg40xxv doesn't integerscale gba AT ALL

[urban quail]

You're right on the first part, people are hella fickle.

I mean, I get it but some of the times.

Some are bored with this feature, some long for that feature.
Other folks would give less of a damn about other features.

[latent lark]

One 4:3 for ergo lovers one for slim lovers One 16:9 for ergo lovers one for slim lovers and one vertical and one clamshell

[delicate lynx]

Calm down, nobody said it did. I should have said, "...extra 0.2 inches AND integer scaled", but I foolishly assumed people would get that and that I didn't need to be that precise on here.

[delicate lynx]

...and one handheld to ruled them all, one handheld to find them, one handheld to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[urban quail]

Ehh.

[copper nimbus]

I assumed you would understand my non-serious tone of voice since I wrote "lmao"

[latent lark]

I love the Steam Deck, I believe in a 2 devices solution. A PC handheld and a good pocket retro companion

I'm shoving that 477m in my pants

[waxen ingot]

We need snapdragon

[copper nimbus]

And a Vita, And a 3DS, DS

[waxen ingot]

Acceptable if the top is 960p as well, it would integer scale 3ds and a variety of other systems

[waxen ingot]

It's not 1440p I'm unbound

[latent lark]

but the 3DS can do DS

[copper nimbus]

Yeah but it's not integerscaled. It looks especially blurry on a 240p display

[eager pelican]

I honestly would rather see a 16:9 6" 1080p 120hz panel for the top, two of the same screens would fix it into being a DS only device once again

[short quest]

yeah I have read there is some argument to run DS best on a DSi or something

[eager pelican]

pretty sure I already said the Pocket Fit screen would work well

[copper nimbus]

I'm not gonna say the dsi xl is the best way to play ds games but currently unfortunately it is the best way to play them pocketably

dpad on top, integer scaled ds, pocketable formfactor

[latent lark]

unless you dont mind pressing a button to swap screens

[copper nimbus]

Who told u have to do that?

oh wait

ur not talking to me

are u

[latent lark]

no I mean you can do that and emulate on another pocketable device

[eager pelican]

I prefer the normal DSi tbh

[waxen ingot]

nvm absolutely not

[eager pelican]

I mean, we could go with the Pocket S2 screen too

[waxen ingot]

no they have to be the same

[eager pelican]

why?

[waxen ingot]

upscaling

[eager pelican]

also 3DS has a 5:3 top panel, so what would be the point aside from having a perfect DS

[copper nimbus]

Yeah, it's personal preference, dsi xl: biggest screen in a pocketable formfactor
dsi: higher pixel density, more pocket friendly
dsi lite: support for gba expansion slots

[waxen ingot]

find me a 5:3 960p

[eager pelican]

1600x960

[waxen ingot]

yup gimme

[eager pelican]

at 5.5" to match the 4.7" bottom panel

[waxen ingot]

mini super sp

that suffices i believe

definitely a top pic for the mini sp

but even harder to get than 1440p

[delicate lynx]

I hope this screen ends up being profitable for Anbernic because they might make others.
5.5" 5x3 screen would be amazing.

[waxen ingot]

at least 1440p is like an actual resoltuion

[waxen ingot]

rg552

[latent lark]

they seem to be doing well at the pace they release devices

[eager pelican]

lets do 1680x960 at least, so we have space for 16:9 content

[tender hinge]

When do this go on sale? Tuesday?

[delicate lynx]

Great in concept, not so in execution. I wouldn't mind today's Anbernic giving it another try with an SD chip.

[waxen ingot]

the issue with that is 960p has no real 16:9

one of the great tragedies

[waxen ingot]

pretty weak

[latent lark]

Saturday morning 6am EST

[eager pelican]

that's why I would compromise with a 1080p panel, which also scales PSP better

[delicate lynx]

What's weak, a Snapdragon chip?

[tender hinge]

Swap rpmini for this !?!?

[latent lark]

I personally would but its up to you

[pine bear]

if you are okay with metal, maybe

going OLED -> IPS is also going to be noticeable, though perhaps not as much as the increase in screen size

all things being equal I'd probably take a larger screen over OLED (but would rather have both ofc)

[copper nimbus]

if you had issues finding your rp mini to be too chunky or the screen not big enough this should be a pretty good upgrade

Is the rp mini even pocketable?

It's like 32mm thick

[waxen ingot]

No whatever is in the 552

[waxen ingot]

I don't compromise

Super SP or nothkng

[latent lark]

in reviews I've seen they say it is

[copper nimbus]

Well, good luck in 40 years then

[latent lark]

i dislike its aesthetics, the glossy glass full front the weird screen ratio it has

[copper nimbus]

Unfortunately oled 4:3 displays do not exist, so this is as close as it gets

u can just pretent it's a 3.7 inch oled

like what retroid originally did

[latent lark]

lol

[pine bear]

only at the ergo bumps, it's no less pocketable than a couple smartphones glued together

I would put it in the same bracket as the rg35xxh in terms of pocketability

which is to say pretty good

[tender hinge]

The oled on rpmini is great but after having amoled mobiles for a while it doesn’t feel as special.
How good is BFI? Very intrigued by that and the large screen as I mostly emulate 4:3 systems

[latent lark]

I have yet to try BFI but yeah that big screen and the devices good looks are my main attraction

also it can handle the 6th gens well, my current device is the RG406H and it struggles with some games there

[opaque star]

BFI is kinda polarizing ... if flicker annoys you, you might hate it. There's also the reduction in brightness.

[copper nimbus]

the rg35xxh doesn't have any ergonomic bumbs, triggers or protruding sticks

[tender hinge]

I just presumed it wasn’t noticeable?

Any flicker, I don’t know what flickers to know if it would annoy me 🤣

[opaque star]

To some people it isn't noticeable, to some it is. You will probably have to try it and see which kind you are.

It's not that hard to set up in Retroarch (well, no harder than anything else is) on any device that has an appropriate screen.

[latent lark]

the silver looks good in some lighting and unfinished in others

[waxen ingot]

Oh wow that's bar

Bad

[eager pelican]

maybe Russ got a pre-production unit?

anyway, I would go with the copper colorway anyway

[latent lark]

I've seen other channels mention the raw material of the silver so its not just Russ but yeah copper is the way to go

[silk arrow]

Poopy bronze

[latent lark]

Steam Punk Copper

[silk arrow]

Just looks like metallic poop

[latent lark]

Roman Armor Bronze

[copper nimbus]

Yall just call any shade of brown poop

[urban quail]

Brown is a decisive color variant.

[copper nimbus]

I think it looks good and you're just salty we didn't get enough color options

[urban quail]

I mean, sliver is fine to me.

[urban quail]

280p Terracotta pottery video.

[latent lark]

lol I'm not hating on the silver, its been said it looks good in person

[urban quail]

Oh I believe it.

The silver RG477M would be a nice device to see it reflect some of the sun's rays.

At least from within the window.

[ornate coyote]

Were you playing Desert Bus?

[pine bear]

correct, but as someone who has both, I can tell you that the protruding bits of the RP Mini are very, very minimal, it doesn't make a meaningful difference in pocketability to me

[copper nimbus]

Well my n3dsxl in my jeans already feels kinda thick with being like 20mms so I' not sure how well a 30mm device woukd fit

[waxen ingot]

I've never had protruding bits interfere with fitting in my pants

[pine bear]

I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for tight jeans but honestly I wouldn't pocket a handheld with tight jeans at all

[pine bear]

ayy lmao

[waxen ingot]

I think I just have large pants

The sticks on my handheld stick out pretty far

Few inches

I mean single stick

[pine bear]

see, the joke was good until you kept going

in general pocketability for me is more about winter jackets or loose pockets (or just backpacks) a very tight pocket I don't think I'd want to put a handheld in there

in that regard a few cm of protruding sticks or triggers doesn't kill it for me, as long as it's not too egregious

[waxen ingot]

My jeans fit an rp5 according to the 3d printed xu40

[copper nimbus]

It fits my vita, new 3ds xl and dsi xl just fine

jeans aren't that bad

and they are thight which means your device wont slip out

[ornate coyote]

Where to get the lower profile stick caps?

[stray trench]

Looking for lower profile sticks too for better pocketability and I think the brown metal with black buttons looks super nice. Gives it that old-school, premium Neo Geo vibe.

[ornate coyote]

It’s only since retro handhelds became a thing that Im able to actually play neo-geo games.

Previously just drooled over them in magazines in the 90’s

[stray trench]

Yeah they were super expensive and used to envy over all those SNES games we wouldn’t get in Europe.

[ornate coyote]

Yeah I remember each game costing as much as a SNES or Megadrive itself.

[valid gale]

The sticks are the same as the ayn/retroid sticks

So if you find low profile caps for those, they will work on here

Prob etsy or aliexpress

Maybe amazon

[ornate coyote]

Neo Geo only has about 150 games, but the quality is very very high. Putting aside the amazing fighting games, there is heaps of other great games on it no one talks about.

[waxen ingot]

MALI CUSTOM DRIVERS

!!!!!!!!!!

Game hub has talked with mediatek

Once they extract it from gamehub Mali will be usable

[copper juniper]

thats pretty cool

[waxen ingot]

pretty cool?

this instantly akes this device much more viable for switch winlator and ps2 and gc

[stray trench]

I wonder how long it will take til we see the drivers.

[silent jacinth]

I realized that what I hated about the chocolate so much was the white bases of the (needlessly) RGB analog sticks. Those blend in on the silver model but stick out like a sore thumb.

Frankly I don't think the RGB sticks look good on either of these. Ironically, they make the RP5 look more premium while they make this look cheaper.

[silk arrow]

Just get the rp5 bro

[silent jacinth]

I love the RGB30 but it is the only handheld I have ever owned that literally cannot be turned off. The battery/power issues on that thing are an even more critical issue than the hinge issues that some clamshells have

[eager pelican]

lol, just turn it off

then wait for it to charge for a hot minute before you turn it on again

[delicate lynx]

The power drain issues are why I sold it in favor of an XXCube, but having the cube in my hand I kinda want the RGB30 again. Stacked shoulders and ergo grips on something meant for Game Boy...

https://tenor.com/view/avgn-angry-video-game-nerd-what-were-they-thinking-what-are-they-thinking-confused-gif-17417919

[silent jacinth]

Which would you rather own?

[silent jacinth]

EXACTLY. It missed the entire point. It's why I was so happy the RP Classic didn't do analog sticks at all

[delicate lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/idc-i-dont-care-mood-gif-14341652

I'm honestly thinking the right shade of green would complete the steampunk look to it.

[stray trench]

The orange glow looks nice and cozy with the brown so I might just keep it with that.

[latent lark]

I agree wholeheartedly I first noticed this on the 406H the white thumb sticks looks fine on the white version of course but kinda hurts ruins the look of the black and purple. But Anbernic insists on these white RGB sticks that protrude too far. I don't think its that bad here but it couldve done without them.

[waxen ingot]

out already

[latent lark]

yeah at least it looks nice when some color is added

[eager pelican]

that's why someone needs to convince @molten tiger to do the 1:1 with touch he teased and doesn't want to make reality

[delicate lynx]

I wanna see it with some Martian green now.

[devout estuary]

rather own this

[delicate lynx]

Because if there's one thing we have absolutely never seen before it's an all-black handheld.

I wear more black irl than Jonny Cash and even I'm kinda sick of it. Props to any retro handheld maker that gives us something different.

[latent lark]

True. Its good to have a different flavor once in awhile, I'm glad the option to just go all black isn't there

[silk arrow]

Gimme 477M with opalescent shine

[latent lark]

a nice shiny metallic dark teal would look cool too

[eager pelican]

damn that looks better 😅

I would already be content with the RGB rings not being so white when turned off

looks kinda off on the copper color

[eager pelican]

that actually would be fire

[ornate coyote]

You could take the raw shell to an anodizer and get it dipped in that color.

[frigid slate]

Bring back the 353M purple.

[topaz ermine]

Was going to suggest this for the silver one

[devout estuary]

i'd take this any day over the brown bronze...it's an ugly color, on any product...ever

[topaz ermine]

I've been enjoying playing 4:3 content on this, it looks fantastic

[ebon mango]

It’s great for that. Just… if I actually had to pay for it I dont think I’d spend that price.

[waxen ingot]

[ebon mango]

I don’t hate the bronze

[pine bear]

we need a Gamma reviews YouTube channel