RG557

[warm wyvern]

It's already at $999 lol ?

[lunar python]

might as well be

for USA it's like $400 factoring taxes and shipping

[radiant meadow]

It's hard because steam deck is like perfect device but odin 2 portal man it's like g cloud should be when it comes to streaming or emulation

The problem I Don't even have pc 🤣

[vocal loom]

I mean the deck OLED is still what I'd recommend the most. Still good screen, amazing ergos, and most important, crazy community support + steam warranty

Like if your device comes fucked you really want steam customer support lol

[radiant meadow]

And good ass controller layout man

[vocal loom]

Plus emudeck is crazy easy to install

An amazing experience

[warm wyvern]

If you want to put some extra $ on a device i would recommend the Deck , you get pc gaming and pretty great emulation
The Portal seems to be awesome too but playing steam games on Android is not there yet

[lunar python]

emudeck's value cannot be overstated

[hearty hound]

the community is getting less and less active, with every new game that runs at low 20fps.

[warm wyvern]

Deck 2 will solve that

[hearty hound]

soon it will 15 and end at 10

[wintry lark]

Yeah I'm ngl, I think it's about time for that generational leap for the deck

[vocal loom]

I mean they've already done enough lol

What more do need that hasn't been provided by steam or the community

[warm wyvern]

I think the Deck 2 will have some interesting sales too , more than the first

[hearty hound]

if it realy gets custom 890m

[lunar python]

steam deck released February 25, 2022. Wow time flies

[hearty hound]

or at least 880m (25% over)

[wintry lark]

Well the hardware is getting a bit dated

[radiant meadow]

True but indies are still there I'm already got console to play triple aaa games

[hearty hound]

but i dont believe in that, or they increse price

[vocal loom]

If it fits your needs though does it matter is I guess the real point

[warm wyvern]

Tbf , it will
The current hardware is kinda old now

[radiant meadow]

To be honest this is really perfect device up to ps4 plus indies you got games that can last you a lifetime

[hearty hound]

7840/8840hs still playable, but this yeah ... done

[wintry lark]

Ig it depends on your needs, most pc handhelds don't perform crazy well on the newest games, but based on what I've seen the steam deck is going to lose the ability to play the newest games sooner

[vocal loom]

People get crazy caught up on pure performance but sometimes the package of other things is better overall

[hearty hound]

also fight vs switch 2 fanbase will be pain ...

even it weak

[radiant meadow]

Lmaooo wait and see when playstation release their handheld

[hearty hound]

and who knows, maybe it will be hardware hacked and steam os installed after month of release🙂

[radiant meadow]

On playstation 100%

[wintry lark]

Different cpu architectures, probably not likely

[hearty hound]

i dont think it was any hard task for comunity which made drivers for old arm socs and flash windows arm

even latest builds

[warm wyvern]

Microsoft is working on one too lol

[radiant meadow]

Not really more time playstation get hacked more than nintendo and xbox

[radiant meadow]

Real battle

[warm wyvern]

For the hack thing , i remember the 360 was kinda easy to do that lol They all know we're gonna use it for emulation lol

[wintry lark]

I mean it is possible that steamos gets ported to arm with the release of Deckard, which could be very interesting

[hearty hound]

well playstation fanbase is half of nintendo (sadly)

+-

[radiant meadow]

Valve is smart to do it they always want to port steam os on every devices

[warm wyvern]

For this current gen , yes.
But remember half of Nintendo fanbase are not gamers , just families or people who buy the Switch for children

[hearty hound]

no way

[radiant meadow]

Yes they been planning on it for a while we are waiting for it

[warm wyvern]

Also that a lot of gamers migrated to pc too. If they release something good with Windows it will be a game changer

[hearty hound]

oh lol they realy testing it on arm now

[wintry lark]

I think it's speculated to use an 8 gen 3 iirc

[hearty hound]

O_O

arm handhelds with steam deck OS and native x86, insane

[radiant meadow]

Or people just like nintendo

Because its fun

[warm wyvern]

They have a fun / sweet factor about their games indeed

In the future , it will be pc and Nintendo imo

[hearty hound]

nintendo will be x86 too in future

[radiant meadow]

Its crazy that playstation used to be like that different genres

[hearty hound]

ps6 and xbox new will out like common pcs

but with fixed specs like always

[radiant meadow]

Especially xbox

[hearty hound]

ps6 confirmed too

[warm wyvern]

It was , the PS2 era was their peak imo. They were really that good and won over the others

[hearty hound]

ps2 was unfair win

xbox360 was way and way better ...

but they too late

[warm wyvern]

Microsoft will go back to where it started , pc game was their thing back then

[radiant meadow]

The problem with ps6 is if they don't do backwards compatibility this time it kinda over

[hearty hound]

they will, it easy

[warm wyvern]

I prefer the 360 over the PS3
I've always thought Xbox had better graphics too

[hearty hound]

container 🙂

[radiant meadow]

360 and ps3 was beautiful to watch but funny thing I found out that xbox 360 have backwards compatibility for all these years I never found out about it until last year

[warm wyvern]

Comes to think that they will already jump to a new gen and they didn't even squeeze the hardware of the ps5 like they used to back then
A lot of remasters and stuff but no God of War II moment

[radiant meadow]

Live services nonsense and that stupid Jim Ryan

So stupid I'm ashamed that he is even British that little twat

[hearty hound]

ps3 has better graphics in some games, but it weaker in hardware and way harder architecture

this why we wait emulation that long

even on high end pc x10 times faster than original

[radiant meadow]

Actually ps3 have benefits tho I feel like ps3 was like their final peak hardware wise

[hearty hound]

I'd say it wasn't that long ago

[radiant meadow]

Of course 360 is better overall

[hearty hound]

ps3 has better hardware than most of pcs back in the day

[warm wyvern]

That whole gen had some peak games tbh
A lot of great stuff came out in that era ... Dead Space , Halo , GOW 3
Killzone had some killer graphics for its time

[radiant meadow]

Uncharted 2 Lordddddd

What a time

[warm wyvern]

I still play it until today tbh
Uncharted 2 and Skyrim , they're forever games for me

[hearty hound]

just enough to watch how ps3 demo show whos daddy at the last of us

and xbox360 😄

pixels blurry something

and a game like like on high end pc (back in the day)

[warm wyvern]

Alien Isolation too
They knew the hardware was good ( for the time ) and squeezed all the juice they could from it 😅

[radiant meadow]

Xbox 360 and ps3 it's sad that you think about it it's never going to be like that again

[wanton flower]

I've heard housing there is cripplingly expensive

[warm wyvern]

Everything *
But we have nice beaches

[warm wyvern]

It was peak for the 3D generation , we had so much fun with it online and the games were made with passion.
We were fortunated to have lived through that era

[radiant meadow]

Man I even said driving games actually peaked at 7th gen

[warm wyvern]

Burnout Paradise 👌

[radiant meadow]

Grid 2008 Project gotham racing

Split Second that game bro it's hardest driving game I ever played

[hearty hound]

btw anyone can explain why gamecube games look that bad compare to ps2? 😄

if it way more powerful in gpu and cpu (seems like every game just downgraded as much they can to fit on disk 1400mb limit)

Fuck, I just remembered that NFS MW came out on the original xbox 🤨 Somone test pls with rocknix/linux on xemu (thx)

[velvet helm]

Honestly I hate OLED screens, AMOLEDs are WAY better!

@signal cedar @dawn jay @quasi seal @river parrot Sorry for @ing you guys but I really want to know. I know the sticks are small but what's the range of motion on the sticks on the RG557?

@hearty hound OLEDs suffer from Burn-in issues and are absolutely horrible in Heat and Sunlight.

[hearty hound]

direct sunlight yes, could be a problem.
only

others just bullshit

amoled and oled burn almost the same, they both scary of static image (every new gen it improve, but not much as it wanted to be)

[rocky nebula]

Win600 = simply flawless

[velvet helm]

Others are not bullshit anybody that has owned a Vita 1000 for any OLED device can vs an AMOLED can tell the difference.

[hearty hound]

u comparison different generation lmao

[rocky nebula]

The problem with arm devices is they all have the same upper limit

[velvet helm]

It's the same problem on the Steam Deck OLED just ask the Phawx.

[velvet helm]

What do you mean by this exactly? I'm confused.

[hearty hound]

same us any amoled

bc it OLED too with a small differences

[rocky nebula]

can you play path of exile 2 on an arm handheld? What about runescape: dragonwilds. No they all stop at playstoreware and switch

same
Upper
Limit

[velvet helm]

Sir I don't think you understand your screens. Unless you live in a Basement or a Cave OLEDs are crap compared to AMOLEDs.

[hearty hound]

yes u can, but with big fps issues

[velvet helm]

I guess, but ARM based computing to built more for power efficiency not Gaming. Gaming is secondary.

[hearty hound]

the problem, that u dont understand what actually screen pannels is and what differences

there many of models and generations and u cant compare that dumb

[velvet helm]

I've used both OLEDs are crap compared to AMOLEDs.

[hearty hound]

[velvet helm]

For example, in Sunlight AMOLEDs screens get dimmer. They don't get completely destroyed like OLEDs.

[hearty hound]

:DDDDDD

[velvet helm]

AMOLEDs suffer from far less Burn-in issues then OLEDs.

[hearty hound]

u cant say about all of amoleds, dont be stupid ... u can compare only exact models

like steam oled and portal for example

[velvet helm]

The only thing Standard grade OLEDs excel in are deeper Whites and Blacks.

[hearty hound]

and doesnt matter who win, it will not say win for all of hes types

[velvet helm]

The Pimax Portal uses a QLED screen not an OLED btw. 😒

[hearty hound]

u can compare only them, exact models, not type of panels

even u dont understand anything about displays

[velvet helm]

Doesn't matter

[hearty hound]

it does

can be trash amoled, and can be trash oled

[velvet helm]

Give me an Example of a device with a good OLED screen then.

[hearty hound]

old generation / new generation

[velvet helm]

You keep saying this but your not giving me examples. 🙄

[hearty hound]

any woled panel is good, and they dont care about sunlights (they have another issues, that qd-oled doesnt, but anyway)

[velvet helm]

Your talking out of your ass right now.

[velvet helm]

Examples please.

[hearty hound]

XG27AQDMG

glossy woled panel 🙂

[velvet helm]

Dude we're talking about Handhelds and Portable Electronics, not Gaming Monitors. You're not proving your point.

Do you strap the XG27AQDMG to your head!? 🤣

[hearty hound]

did we? 🙂 this what im taling about

[rocky nebula]

the goalpost exits the field

[velvet helm]

You don't take Gaming Monitors outside your house daily do you?

[hearty hound]

you don't understand the difference between the panels, and you're just comparing them without examples. To which I gave you an example from the monitors)

fair i think

[velvet helm]

I just gave you two examples! 🤣

Both an old and new example.

[hearty hound]

now about handhelds, steam deck oled can be 2 types

glossy and anti-glare

[velvet helm]

What does this have to do with anything? 🤨

[hearty hound]

1st dont like sunlight (bc of reflection), second doesnt matter at all

[rocky nebula]

that's Noname's thing. he just keeps shoving the goalpost without any limit until nobody knows what he's on about.

[hearty hound]

sh

[velvet helm]

Dudes running in circles at this point. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[hearty hound]

that so easy to understand lol

steam deck oled anti glare version doesnt have problems with sunlights

it will perform a bit weaker than amoled yes

[velvet helm]

The problem is completely ruining your screen not glare issues.

[hearty hound]

its not ruining anything lol

they burning almost the same, like i sayed before. If u put image and left ON screen on both devices, in the morning u will see surpise on both (amoled and oled)

I have an acquaintance who fell asleep with the screen on 2 years ago (he had the active developer feature where the screen doesn't go off when charging) and at the morning see burned small area

also this happens bc most of A companys dont use latest BOE/Samsung pannels to save some money 🙂
Even Oneplus until now, this why u can see allot of used phones with burned screens (samsung too, they never use own latest panels only selling)

[hazy solstice]

Range of motion on the sticks is actually pretty good. I still believe the Alt. sticks on Retroid/AYN/406 devices have more more travel, but it's way better than the Switch sticks

[rocky nebula]

i had a feeling "sticks too small" was some sort of placebo complaint

[hazy solstice]

They need larger caps
The stick movement itself is fine

[hearty hound]

it fixable

but ... that annoying

[velvet helm]

@hazy solstice Yeah I REALLY wanted Anbernic to use full sized sticks like an XBOX controller but the unfortunately they didn't listen to me. 😔

[hazy solstice]

They basically went the opposite direction size wise

[rocky nebula]

we're not their immediate audience.

the bilbili community gets their stuff a whole month before us. Different type of gamers, that lot

[hazy solstice]

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

[hearty hound]

they do whatever the chinese community ask them to do, but even they spit on their choice of soc

[wintry lark]

All they needed to do was fix the cardinal snapping 🐈

[velvet helm]

@hazy solstice The RG557 definitely suits my Retro Gaming interests, it's just sad they didn't try to appeal to as many people as possible.

[rocky nebula]

homogenizing features for likeability always leads to a mediocre product, tbh

[hearty hound]

anyone do custom for edge?

[hazy solstice]

Which they did with the 406 sticks

[velvet helm]

It depends tbh.

[hazy solstice]

I mean it's really good for some things, but for the price it just needed to be more lol

[wintry lark]

Yeah that's true, makes it even more confusing why they went this route

[hazy solstice]

Wanted to do something new I guess

[hearty hound]

for that price it needed to be G2 g2

[velvet helm]

All they needed to do was add the RG406H/V sticks on the RG557! 😭

[hearty hound]

at least

[hazy solstice]

Honestly that'd fix most issues I have

[hearty hound]

why u rate high stick that much i dont understand btw

[rocky nebula]

at worst, you get something like the KTR1, that struggles to meet every feature. At best, you get something like the GPD Win4, which succeeds but prices itself to oblivion

[hearty hound]

on my 406, i would like to have smaller, like 557 (no joke)

[velvet helm]

FPS games for one. Also they feel amazing for 3D platformers.

[hearty hound]

bc of that, my old rg405v more comfortable for me

[velvet helm]

Good for you sir.

[hearty hound]

eh if i wont swap 406, i would just swap sticks :/ (405 on 406)

@rocky nebula ?

[rocky nebula]

i have no idea what you're on about, man.

[hearty hound]

custom firmware for edge 5G exist? i cant find any
and how bad stock, or i can fix that with root and bunch of modules

https://tenor.com/view/tired-sleep-monday-sleepy-dead-gif-2056832396691859109

[crude mango]

The retroid style sticks on the 406 definitely feel a lot better playing sm64 than the switch sticks on the 405

[warm wyvern]

I hope they use the sticks of the 556 on the future 558
Stick accuracy is cheating and for noobs

"But the cardinal snapping "

Git gud

[velvet helm]

Can you show us a picture of the sticks compared to the RG556?

[hazy solstice]

Unfortunately I don't have a 556 right now but here's a comparison to a Joycon

Fuck it's dusty

[velvet helm]

Those Sticks really are small! 😭

[hazy solstice]

That's what I've been saying

[wanton flower]

The range is probably the same as a switch stick but the cap is vita sized

I will say they have been accurate and no cardinal snapping. Just small

[wary tiger]

They supposedly delay this device because they are waiting for these sticks, instead of just using the rg406h 's?
What a missed opportunity to get more sales before the us tariffs

[long chasm]

So true

Does the mini feel like a vita in the way it feels in the hand if ya got a sister vita to cop a feel

[lunar python]

I don't own the o2 mini 😬 I do have a vita and it's ergos are aight

[long chasm]

Idk if it’s “weak” considering it can run doom eternal maxed out n Elden ring n medium to high on kingdom come deliverance. I think you mean like not very high spec 1080p 120hz oled etc

[long chasm]

Yeah got one here love it but I think the mini is lot hefty

[long chasm]

Team white or team transparent my boi

[long chasm]

Depends on the screen mate it was very common but I don’t think it’s as common now with different panels. Considering they go cheap on screens who knows.

[long chasm]

It’s was odd time seeing the differences we used to compare our games with my bros gc n my ps2. Some games look way better on GC and cleaner where it can be the opposite for other games. It’s just how the developers made it in mind with the power it got. Resident Evil 4 GC vs PS2 is a good one!

[broken geyser]

Won't ship to usa

[ruby skiff]

Rip

[wide bison]

f

[lapis moat]

Just got this

[night briar]

Switch vs 556 (unfortunately, I don't have a 557 )

[vocal loom]

The blue 556 is truly beautiful lol

[night briar]

Here is mine with joy caps for better ergo

[hearty hound]

it just has higher resolution most of tiltles

[long chasm]

Pretty much yeah

[hearty hound]

but they nerf every single effects

to fit on ONE disk (1400mb)

nintendo just kill that console with that limitation

[long chasm]

Yeah I thought gc looks quite good

[stark cape]

I know in the case of Simpson's Hit & Run, PS2 has worse performance than GCN and Xbox

I will say one thing though

While the mini discs had severe storage limitations, it makes em easier to dow- I mean, acquire the games legally nowadays...

[long chasm]

Yessssss totally

[stark cape]

Any GCN recs btw?

[hearty hound]

just look how every gamecube racing games looks

its pain for eyes

[stark cape]

Rn I have Wind Waker, SM Sunshine, and Simpsons Hit & Run

[fickle belfry]

What, you don't want a $500 RG557? 🙃

[stark cape]

I chose the Wii version of RE4

Since that's basically the definitive edition outside of remasters

[fickle belfry]

Honestly, it feels like they took a Vita, made it a little more dense, and offset the sticks so that you don't HAVE to have a grip to play Borderlands 2 or any other stick-focused game. OG Vita but better to hold.

[stark cape]

They probably should have made the RP5 a bit wider so they could be similarly offset tbh

[cold void]

I'm sure there are a few loyal Anbernic fans ready to lay down $500 for one.

Meanwhile Stubb's said days ago they would have stock in the USA to order that evening.

The email above said it's 2 weeks away, that's from today. Oh and they don't offer US registration services even though their official AliExpress store says US people interested please register with us.

Talk about 2 left hands steering the Anbernic ship.

[hearty hound]

sadly yes, crazy fanboys exists

[fickle belfry]

Me, I would have thrown down the $250-ish (gotta factor shipping in there) on release day because I liked the 556. But that's about the limit for me.

[long chasm]

Does it feel hefty

[swift lava]

Oh my

Raaaah super sp!!!!!!!

[velvet helm]

The only place USers can buy the RG557 is WhatGeek.

[velvet helm]

Where did you get the caps?

@broken geyser Our 2 options are either:

1. Wait
2. Overpay

These are sad times. 😥

[wintry lark]

That price though

[velvet helm]

I know right. 😥

[warm wyvern]

Anbernic had their Switch 2 moment there lol
If the 557 had the Snapdragon i would have paid the $250 tbh
Because they have sort of better logistics than the others offering that and i wanted to support them to make more handhelds like that but ...

[signal cedar]

Do not buy it for this price

[crude mango]

https://tenor.com/view/backing-you-get-yours-danny-devito-danny-devito-gif-13052176

[signal cedar]

So their listing asking people to register for notice was just made-up?

https://tenor.com/view/it-didnt-happen-just-gif-25155831

[wanton flower]

Isn’t it 3) both

[signal cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jonathan-frakes-false-wrong-fiction-incorrect-gif-27632106

[lapis moat]

Yeah I thought maybe it's just thru Ali thing but didn't see a way to do that either

Idfk

[wanton flower]

Even the expensive listings say not available at your address last I checked

Only option really seems to be wait for us stock via anbernic

[lapis moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ricky-bobby-gif-3479536

[signal cedar]

Yeah but will they offer the $235 price in 2 weeks?

[broken geyser]

I'm simply not interested enough in this to buy at this price

[wanton flower]

I’m assuming no. US gets left out of early price offer

[lapis moat]

Lemme reply to the email and ask

[signal cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kinda-let-us-down-a-little-bit-trace-atkins-ultimate-cowboy-showdown-you-let-us-down-you-fail-gif-21270366

[wanton flower]

To be fair it’s our (US) fault, not Anbernic’s, really.

Separate of the debate of if it’s worth either price.

[warm wyvern]

It's simply not worth the $250

[wintry lark]

If retroid can find an alternative for shipping to the us I think anbernic could as well, though retroid might also have a bigger US market and more of an incentive to do so

I just want an rg407h that I don't have to pay $500 for

[vocal loom]

Oh totally lol

[wanton flower]

I kinda like the 557 but I didn’t pay for it. I don’t know that it’s worth 250 unless you specifically don’t like the alternatives (rp5/flip 2 or odin2/portal)

I could see it at same price as rp5 as a more comfy alternative. $220, maybe 225. But you know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder or something.

Personally I really don’t like rp5 ergo but the 557 isn’t particularly small so stepping up to the odin2 portal is probably a better deal if you can swing another $80…

[vocal loom]

I think it turns into, no seriously dude don't buy anything and save that extra 80$, and then buy the portal lol

[wanton flower]

JuSt bUy a StEaM dEcK, bro

-# /s

[vocal loom]

I get that but like, these aren't pocketable, and the portal is just so far ahead in most things that if you really want to be done buy and never look back lol. And that's coming from someone who still wants a 557 eventually lol

[wanton flower]

Yeah. Portal is a better value and not much larger all things considered.

Don’t have a portal but even compared to my 7” OneXFly it’s not much smaller.

[cold void]

I think this will be the same conversation for every single handheld going forward for a little while that comes out of China.

Stubbs and Derek getting everybody worked up about something they can't have without spending an astronomical amount of money

[velvet helm]

So tempted, it's last Android Handheld I need to fill out the Play Chest!!! 🧰 💫😵‍💫

[wanton flower]

Hey now, I’m not telling anyone to buy anything!

[cold void]

@wanton flower you don't have to tell them to buy it, but when you show them people start freaking out

It's just the nature of the game we're in

[velvet helm]

Nah Anbernic or one of these shippers probably have something cooking.

[cold void]

The early bird price will probably pass plus it states on AliExpress that any prices for something brought into the United States does not include customs duties

And that won't include shipping either LOL

[wanton flower]

I’m not responsible for other peoples lack of self control, only my own

[velvet helm]

Or buy from WhatGeek. 😏😂😒

[cold void]

My guess is it will probably be closer to 300 bucks if somehow they do cook up a deal with the tariffs situation.

[wanton flower]

Still just says preorder with a mid May estimated date.

[velvet helm]

Agreed, however this and the RG406V are the last Android Handhelds I want. 😂

[cold void]

Till they announce a new handheld next week.

I would just wait Pridetoons. I'm sure something will get sorted out eventually vs paying $349

That should be against the law paying that much

[vocal loom]

Bro in literally no world should you buy at 350 lol. You'll depreciate faster than a car lol. Buy it used from someone else that took the hit and will eventually sell

[cold void]

Yeah I should probably preface that with if you're loaded with cash and don't care about losing money if you ever sell your stuff then this is not even a discussion LOL

There is all kinds of ways of justifying overpaying for something that you want we've all been there

[velvet helm]

Like I said, I have 90% of the Handhelds I want from China. The only Handhelds I want are the RG557, RG406V, RP Flip 2, E6 Max, Helegaly π, and some of those 3:2 Handhelds coming up but that's it.

[cold void]

Haha only a couple

That must be one hell of a war chest

[velvet helm]

I was joking, but yeah I still want this Handheld.

[vocal loom]

Me too lol but I guess it's more of a question of like, why do I need it now

[cold void]

If I could snag one of these for let's say $200 maybe $225 shipped I would have jumped on it just to tinker

$300 they can go suck an egg

[thick sail]

I don't think these will be that much cheaper on the used market

[vocal loom]

Like there isn't a really good reason to need it right here right now lol

[velvet helm]

I purchase all my Handhelds within a niche. I just got my Loki Mini Pro back. I'd rather use that for Wii U and Switch Emulation.

[vocal loom]

Yeah but like why do you need it right now lol

At its most expensive

[cold void]

Look Retroid already stated that they found a new shipper and would be sucking up the tariff costs so the prices would not be going up for the buyer. Anbernic could do this as easily.

[thick sail]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-homer-simpson-simpsons-worst-day-of-your-life-so-far-bart-gif-22830016

[vocal loom]

I do plan on getting this eventually, just not anywhere near 250-350 lol

[signal cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hodl-hold-the-line-proton-proton-xpr-gif-21569958

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-feel-gif-26944000

[velvet helm]

Sad but true, I really want it for Android and 16:9 PS2, GameCube, and Wii but I'll wait. 😥

[vocal loom]

I'll buy it later as well

[velvet helm]

In brighter news (for me) my copy of Shantae for the GBA is coming in the mail today!!! 🤩📦

[warm wyvern]

It really depends tbh
Of course the 557 is having issues because it does not worth the $250.
But a Deck in my country costs 650AUD , so it's still a different territory price wise
If Anbernic had put a better chip in there it would be worth the price but these handhelds when fine tuned are still a good option depending where you live

[cold void]

For sure based on where you are from the prices make more sense. I'm talking strictly about us spoiled Americans who never pay tariffs or Vat and complain about paying $1 more then they have too for anything.

[vocal loom]

Oh no shit mine is on the way lol, forgot I had ordered it

[warm wyvern]

Is there a Shantae for GBA ?
I played the GBC and every other version that came after lol
Btw , the T820 plays all the Switch ports 👌

[vocal loom]

Brand new game even

Got a physical

https://limitedrungames.com/products/shantae-advance-risky-revolution-gba?srsltid=AfmBOopO3dWEQG4qkXqQpem3GXUDwqCx4kue8hHWhSfX69RYWxKO3uoK

[warm wyvern]

Off to download this one 😂

[lapis moat]

I dont see a link for digital purchase

[vocal loom]

Oh looks like GBA physical is first to release. That's funny

[warm wyvern]

Comes to think that Wayforward is a bit of an underrated dev company.
Shantae , Advance Wars ... they have some great stuff

[pale marlin]

...yeah, I have to agree. I've been through a ton of android handhelds, my ideal one would be an RG556 made by AYN. But then the Portal came along, I got one (didn't even mean to!) and it's so good it just puts a stop to the hunger for more handhelds. Anything you thought you wanted from an android before changes when you try out the portal. You just want that. It's the definition of endgame

[vocal loom]

Yes fully agree as someone who loved the 556 and still kinda wants a 557

Really this is the upgrade you want if you do

[pale marlin]

The only thing that has me even look at other androids now is how I feel like a 6 inch portal quality OLED handheld would be my ideal, and my love for the 556. But the portal is so damn good it's slowly manipulating me into thinking 7 inches might be the perfect android size lol

[vocal loom]

Yeah lol, I feel like the portal screen is absolutely perfect. One of the few screens I've seen that is actually an amazing oled, up there with the razor edge

[night briar]

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32814362091.html

[velvet helm]

Yep 😁

[velvet helm]

Thank You!!!

[velvet helm]

Honestly I just want the Ergonomics, if I cared more about Switch Emulation I'd just go for a $400 Odin Portal.

[hearty hound]

well, last chance for Mali as x86 emulator gone

[warm wyvern]

Rip Winlator

[hearty hound]

the developer was lied to by some loser (huggo) with severe menatal problems, and unfortunately people started forcing it on him
I hope of course that Bruno is let go and he comes back after the pause

[radiant meadow]

I want to be positive but I don't think he Wants to come back

This is the problem Andorid community never have something good because of one simple issue

Overblown

[thick sail]

I haven't been keeping up with this well but it sounds like there was an actual virus in a winlator fork and somehow the main dev got blamed for somebody else?

[radiant meadow]

Yep

They thought he did it

[thick sail]

So this is basically the same as downloading a repack of ass creed and then blaming ubisoft for the virus

[cold void]

It always makes me sad that these developers get attacked and then walk away forever like AetherSX

[radiant meadow]

To be honest it was virus but it was easy fix that bruno did already before pause whole development

Yet people went overboard

[hearty hound]

the funny thing is that this ‘'virus’' doesn't work on the arm))))

[cold void]

I saw Vlad and Stubb's post about it last night and I knew the sky would be falling by today. It did

[radiant meadow]

The virus only affects if you moves games on pc apparently

[hearty hound]

its not

[radiant meadow]

Oh really

[prisma seal]

Thanks to small rent kids from Reddit

RIP WINLATOR

[warm wyvern]

That whole site is cursed

[prisma seal]

Yeah totally! 😦

Ofc the dev does this after all that stupid drama 🙂

[vocal loom]

I'm just not gonna blame the emulation scene on this one lol

[regal quail]

I dunno, twice is a coincidence, thrice is a pattern, and this exact thing has happened even more times than that.

[wide bison]

rip mobilador scene 😔

[hearty hound]

Floxif virus was presented before Winlator was created and this virus related to all x86_64 emu's on Android, like ExaGear, Winlator, etc so these emu's is safe to use

[radiant meadow]

Mmmm serious information

[regal quail]

Like, Ryujinx literally referenced the Android emulation scene as one of the reasons they never wanted to release the beta for their Android build and only planned on doing so when it was fully ready, to specifically avoid backlash for “it being horrible”.

[hearty hound]

that how dumb comunity work and what happened when they try cancel somone for no reason

[regal quail]

Well, issue here is that it was actually caused by a good reason (it is an actually legit bad virus), but the reaction was still bad.

[radiant meadow]

It's always andorid emulation scene never like windows or even linux scene

[vocal loom]

Again

[hearty hound]

On paper it's a virus, in fact it's just an addon that can't do anything to the system.

and any connected device

[regal quail]

Has anyone confirmed that it in fact will not do anything unless you use it?

[vocal loom]

From what I saw, the reaction wasn't that bad lol. But of course that's what I saw, and that's to a virus lol. People went ape shit for dumber things, but I'm just not gonna call this one on the community

[hearty hound]

yup, another dev

box64

[radiant meadow]

I'm not saying it's bad thing community is vocal but it's lot of pattern that devs had quit or stop developing on andorid

[vocal loom]

And trust me

I looovvvveeeee to shit on the emulation community for how whiny they can be lol

[hearty hound]

I hope the person who started this racket gets punished.

[regal quail]

Same here on Aether, right up until I looked at some of the logs from before he left and found some arguments that were way less one-sided on Tal’s end than what people suggested (in terms of it “totally being Tal’s fault alone in being an asshole”).

He was still being way more nuts than what other people were claiming in it being “purely him being harassed”, but it also wasn’t the vice versa.

[radiant meadow]

Okay punished is too much but I would say this that just do your work without having discord or like community it's better that way unfortunately

[hearty hound]

not too much, its not enough for what he do

asshole huggo known loser in russian speaking community

who start this

and i have no idea why peoples believe

[warm wyvern]

The Nintendrones were literally celebrating on YT about how Ryujinx was taken down and how great it is.

" leave the greedy corporation alone "

[regal quail]

Don’t exactly see how that’s in any way relevant to “Ryujinx’s devs actively withholding the Android beta because they didn’t want to deal with the Android Emulation community”.

[warm wyvern]

100%
If you're gonna do dev work for any emulation system just avoid Reddit. Actually, avoid. Reddit at all costs

[vocal loom]

I agree on most cases. Except for this one lol.

[warm wyvern]

Mind you that even thought i love Nintendo games , their community is the worst and will literelly rat you out to them for emulating or creating some fanmade game

[regal quail]

Like, if anything, that community was the opposite of that, in them fully going “Yuzu did no wrong!”

Even in spite of the fact that Yuzu was outright fully ready to sacrifice the entire emulation scene in a bad court case if they didn’t realize “oh wait, we’d get punished way more harshly if we lost that, we gotta settle!”.

[hearty hound]

it has be revived by enthusiast

now its Ryubing with active development

[radiant meadow]

Let me be real people was violating them and nintendo since when steam deck came around

[radiant meadow]

That's true

[hearty hound]

fork alive

[regal quail]

Nah, that’s only a few shills. Most fans usually like fangames…until the fangame dev does anything that pisses them off, then they go Nintendo-shill mode.

[radiant meadow]

If yuzu went through the court case it would be game over

[regal quail]

Exactly, because they were never taken down like Yuzu was, they outright handled everything outside of legal settlements or dmca’s.

[hearty hound]

yuzu fork still alive too

and im pretty sure main devs not changed in fact 😉

[regal quail]

Yup, specifically the forks that don’t use the key generators and just make you use your own title.keys

[hearty hound]

atm we have 3 switch alive different emus, and one should come soon

[regal quail]

Since, that unironically was one of the main things that was getting all the forks DMCA’ed, Sudachi outright being able to come back because they removed it.

[hearty hound]

?

[regal quail]

Oh, let’s go ahead and not talk about that fork if it’s what I think you’re mentioning.

[regal quail]

Yup, Sudachi actually got DMCA’ed at one point, but they were actually able to figure out a way to come back, and that way included making users provide their own title.key file

[hearty hound]

all do the same

bruh i forgot about new emu how it calls ...

it should out from x86

[regal quail]

Eden’s the upcoming one that has the main dev responsible for actually updating and fixing up the more popular Yuzu forks.

[hearty hound]

A or E something

Eden yes

[regal quail]

Then there’s the other one that’s being hosted by the same asshole from Uzuy but with a new name and the guy who actively tried suing the guy currently making Eden.

[hearty hound]

I still don't understand who the developer is, and why people are so sure of success.

not much info about

[regal quail]

Before any of you ask, no I am not joking on that, the Citron guy literally tried suing the same person who’s responsible for all the legit good Citron updates, which is why the actually good dev is now working on Eden instead and also why Citron is now outright worse in performance than it used to be.

[hearty hound]

I guessed something happened in there

Bad updates couse unstable and without any real improvements

[regal quail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1jnpo71/the_fall_of_citron/

[hearty hound]

Oh shit

long drama... need a tea

[regal quail]

Fun fact, Sudachi’s dev technically wasn’t actually harassed by the community, but by fellow emulator devs, that being fucking Zephyron, otherwise known as Phoenix from Uzuy.

[warm wyvern]

Eden is already up actually, it has some good results.
You can run Doom 2016 quite okay depending on the hardware and with some tweaks

[regal quail]

The actual release or is it still just the leak?
https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1juhx04/comment/mm2k9ai/

[wintry lark]

Hey do you guys think 100 men armed with an RG557 could take down one gorilla

[hearty hound]

shit

well that explain everything

and when should first build out?

[regal quail]

I think 100 people without weapons could take down a Gorilla simply because no animal is surviving a Zerg rush that big (well, ok maybe elephants and hippos, but not gorillas).

[hearty hound]

cant

[regal quail]

Them having rg557’s means they have something to throw.

[hearty hound]

its nothing for it

gorila like 5 times stronger than any man

• it won't feel virtually any human punch

too low power

[regal quail]

Not even joking, in the prompt given (both are fully 100% bloodlusted), the humans can literally just dogpile the gorilla with the combined weight of 13’000 pounds to suffocate it.

Yes, some of the humans will absolutely die, but that’s a sacrifice us viewers from the sidelines are willing to make.

[hearty hound]

if give any real melee weapon yes, humans will win

otherwise no, no chance

[regal quail]

It is literally 100 people, and they are fully bloodlusted. This is the billion lions thing, but this time you’re not pitting the lions against literal gods that can just destroy the world and most of their fellow pokemon to survive.

Now, if we were talking something like 10 humans or even 20, then yeah sure the Gorilla absolutely wins.

[warm wyvern]

I have no idea actually , saw some videos for it on YT.
Apparently it's working well on the Portal

[hearty hound]

there's not enough human power to hurt her, 100 peoples not enough at all

[hearty hound]

leaked alpha build

[regal quail]

That’s not enough bodies to throw away for the sake of burying the gorilla in flesh that even it can’t lift up or escape.

But “100 people that are fully willing to die for the sake of committing to the pile” is absolutely that.

[hearty hound]

and yeah it works

hero

Greetings Alexwpi,

It has been a pleasure to talk with you about these issues that affect the community, as well as to provide a bit of context about Eden and the small controversy regarding the leaked alpha build.

To clarify (and correct a slight narrative error), Zephyron gained access to the Eden server thanks to a leaker whom we trusted at the time. This allowed Zephyron to download all the server messages in an HTML file. That file was later shared in a zip archive (which may have been modified for his own benefit, since we haven't verified all of the over 10,000 messages). Within that archive was the download link to our first alpha with the new interface. That application ended up being shared in Nyushu's server, and it actually originated from another private group (Suyu Telegram), and was shared by someone pretending to be me under the name "Zen." I will provide a screenshot regarding this in your server.

Later, the build was modified into an Antutu version, which is why there were no further leaks beyond that initial alpha. Additionally, the Nyushu group took the app down after Eden's team reached out to their Telegram group. I offer my sincere thanks to them for acting quickly in response to the situation, and I apologize for any inconvenience this incident may have caused.

It brings me great joy to know that part of the community believes in my work and is eager to take part in what Eden represents, a project with a long road ahead. I’m also glad they are aware of the brilliant minds and support that Eden has as a development team right now—without them, I wouldn’t be close to achieving everything that is being done so far.

With love,
– Camille LaVey

[regal quail]

Gorilla is absolutely stronger than a regular human, but it is not “digging its way out of a dogpile that is made up of 100 people fully willing to die for the sake of suffocating 1 gorilla” strong.

Like seriously, it’s a real life Gorilla, not The Hulk.

[hearty hound]

you really underestimate the predators

a gorilla can kill any man with one punch, even not exact in head (x5 times power like i sayed)

so they can literally spin around and fuck up the crowd

[regal quail]

No, I actually know for a fact that a Gorilla can only lift an absolute max of 1763 pounds of dead weight, which is absolutely tough, but it’s also literally around 7x less than what all the humans would weigh.

[hearty hound]

this is true, but gorilla won't let himself get knocked down.

it will just tread carefully and pick off a few people at a time)) they're a lot smarter than you think.

[regal quail]

Oh, that’s another thing, I haven’t gotten into the stamina. Gorilla’s outright have really poor stamina and endurance, since most of their energy and muscles are optimized for short but insanely powerful bursts of strength.

[hearty hound]

short stamina by the standards of predators, not humans.

[regal quail]

Yes, but they’re not smarter than humans (although I wouldn’t also call them dumber in this instance, since that implies the human that would fight a gorilla is smart…)

[hearty hound]

it's several times more endurable anyway.

[regal quail]

No, actually it’s way worse than humans even.

[hearty hound]

proof that

[regal quail]

Humans are outright built for endurance because we evolved to be scavengers and foragers, with hit and run tactics being our oldest method of hunting and fighting.

Essentially, we’re by evolutionary standards “cowards who can run really well”.

[hearty hound]

it doesnt really matter

gorilla just outperform as X times

[regal quail]

Another more modern description being “we’re campers”.

[hearty hound]

just in theory there one way to win, if they put all weight on it

but first they need down it (and its almost imposible)

[regal quail]

Another thing? Gorilla’s literally can’t punch. Gorillas and chimps can throw open handed slaps, slam with their arms, bite, toss, and many other things, but throw a punch as a human can they cannot do

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/stay-on-target-stay-on-topic-off-topic-star-wars-xwing-gif-26611830

[hearty hound]

A gorilla is estimated to be 4–10× stronger than the average adult human.
Gorillas can sprint up to 40 km/h (25 mph) for short bursts.
Thick skin, strong bones, and muscle mass allow a gorilla to absorb a lot of damage.
Gorillas can be extremely aggressive when threatened, capable of inflicting massive trauma in a single strike.
Gorillas fight instinctively and brutally.
Gorillas use their massive arms and jaws (strong enough to crush bones) in combat.

Gorilla K.O

[hearty hound]

i dont mean exact punch -_-

[regal quail]

1. Their skulls are actively only 14 millimeters at the temporal squama, not much more than that at other portions of the skull either. That whole “9-inches” thing was always a myth.

2. Gorilla’s outright are not “predators” by nature because they’re Herbivores, so all those “by predator standards” don’t even make sense. They do not instinctively know where to strike or bite to kill, they instead just bite and strike random areas and hope for the best in combat.

[regal quail]

And frankly, it should’ve been recognized as a myth right from the get go, since a Gorilla’s skull is only around 10-12 inches in length, so them having skulls that thick would already both be impossible and also make it so their brains are borderline nonexistent.

Like shit, I unironically have Gorilla’s as one of my favorite animals, and I still get annoyed whenever people constantly make them out to be “powerful, unstoppable, badass killer beasts” since that outright isn’t true in the first place and it’s not what makes them so freaking interesting. Hell, half the shit that gets made up about them can regularly be traced back to WWW posts that actively just try wanking them to hell and back like they’re trying to claim their favorite anime character is “actually totally multiversal”. Like how the “9-inch thick skulls” thing outright originated from a WWW post about “how many gorilla’s could Batman beat in a fight” due to people trying to anti-wank Batman as “just a regular human” (a regular human that can deadlift 1000 freaking pounds…)

[vocal loom]

Yes

Like easily

100 dudes who dont give a shit is way too much lol

[regal quail]

Exactly. Honestly I do actually get annoyed when people act like Gorilla’s are somehow killing machines that could wipe out an entire army “if said army happened to be unarmed”.

[hearty hound]

u didnt say it was army first of all

just random dudes, and they dont have any chance

[regal quail]

What the hell do you think 100 bloodlusted people would be to a single gorilla?

[hearty hound]

army maybe if cooparate, maybeee

[regal quail]

They’re bloodlusted and want to kill the gorilla, if the gorilla is allowed to be smart despite that, then the humans will outright be able to cooperate.

[hearty hound]

want and do in this case like sky and grass

[regal quail]

God, I don’t even freaking like the prompt in the first place, it’s basically taking a gorilla and turning it into something it outright isn’t at all.

[hearty hound]

it is how it is, u just underrate good animal

[regal quail]

I don’t underrate gorilla’s, I despise people “overrating” them as killing machines, since they’re outright among the more violence-adverse animal species (their sheer strength is the literal only thing that makes them legit dangerous, almost everything else about their physiology actually works against them being violent).

[hearty hound]

Every predator or not-so-predator cornered is a killing machine.

if people were that strong, it would be the same

[regal quail]

Not even, a cornered animal is a scared animal desperately trying to save themselves.

That’s the same for literally all of them, no matter how strong or weak.

[hearty hound]

nah

that only applies to those who are used to acting as a group.

[regal quail]

The only “killing machines” in the animal kingdom are actual predators, since they literally evolved for the sake of that.

[regal quail]

Yeah, and that’s freaking gorillas.

[hearty hound]

like hyenas

[hearty hound]

no

[regal quail]

They’re outright one of the more social species, they live in groups.

[hearty hound]

live and fighting is a bit different

[regal quail]

Hell, Gorillas unironically are among the few primates where the males actually care for their young.

[regal quail]

Obviously it’s mostly silverbacks that are recorded as doing so, but even other gorilla species have been noted to do so.

[hearty hound]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleep-gif-12073235593935901891

[vocal loom]

I mean

What if the gorillas learned how to use a gat

[vocal loom]

Got the podcast to talk about it

[regal quail]

Yup, already saw, and still annoyed that people are suddenly choosing the “strength trumps numbers” option when it’s this, and not the “Pokémon vs 1 billion lions” discussion (where there are unironically multiple pokemon that outright can destroy the planet and just chill in space like Frieza).

[vocal loom]

Fwiw

[lunar python]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-shaquille-shaq-timeout-ethical-gif-9311067668442735802

[vocal loom]

I don't think this question is meant to be taken seriously lol

[regal quail]

I know, I just really like gorillas, but it’s for the exact opposite of the current topic related to them.

[wintry lark]

The only land animal I can think of off the top of my head that could maybe beat 100 unarmed people would be an elephant

[lunar python]

#1340217182537252964

[vocal loom]

What if we taught the gorilla to use a sniper and he had a large fields worth head start, and then also had a flamethrower as backup

[regal quail]

They genuinely are the only few living beings capable of fully understanding complex emotions, on top of also being intelligent enough to actually understand and use tools.

[vocal loom]

Like a sniper and flamethrower

[rocky nebula]

what the existential absurdist fuck are you guys on about

[vocal loom]

Hold up

[rocky nebula]

seriously, go out and (redacted) some grass

this is not cool, man. we are that prisoner in Midnight Gospel reliving his own death over and over in a box until he eats a bloody piece of fruit growing on the edge of the soul prison

we're bigger than this. our hearts are not shriveled pieces of retrogamer angst

[wintry lark]

The Retro gamers yearn to powerscale

[regal quail]

I know, I hate it.

[regal quail]

But also, wtf are you talking about?

[rocky nebula]

nth level weedbro shitpost logic. it's monday.

[lapis moat]

@signal cedar @wanton flower that's a nope

[signal cedar]

We found US stock

https://rh-go.link/RG557_Amzn

[wanton flower]

Free delivery Monday June 9

[signal cedar]

This is the CHEAP listing on Amazon, with the fastest ship time 😂

There's ones for $500 and others that are $360 but ship END of June

[lapis moat]

amazon pls

[uncut storm]

Has anbernic said anything about the "made to run at potato mode" thing? Has been any other news about this device?

[long chasm]

No sadly

[ruby skiff]

Lol, you expecting anbernic to fix things? 😄 unlikely

[uncut storm]

I have no expectations of anbernic, just asking hahaha

This thing could easily be a hit

[ruby skiff]

Also that was a lot of random bollocks overnight 😄

[uncut storm]

Gorillas are cool creatures though

And I agree they are often "mischaracterized" so to speak

[stark cape]

I like their music

[uncut storm]

I don't exactly get why people hold so damn hard to fantasized ideas about animals when the reality is often more fascinating.

These strong guys with a bite force superior to sharks choose peace and that's boss

[stark cape]

I AIN'T HAPPY
I'M FEELIN GLAD
I GOT SUNSHINE
IN A BAG

[uncut storm]

THIS TOO

[still ocean]

Trying to overcome some bootloader unlock schenanigans, volume buttons don't work in bootloader unlock screen to confirm the unlock

Anyway, I'll keep at it, need to unlock the bootloader if we want to be able to modify the system firmware without triggering a brick mode due to security

[golden rapids]

😱

[stark cape]

Checks out

23% of 250 is about 57

[golden rapids]

It's something weird today with Alixepress🤪

[stark cape]

Oh fuck

I think what's happening is that we're basically paying the price for Anbernic stopping US shipments

[storm gull]

Thanks real world events.

Thanks so much..

[stark cape]

They changed the listing prices for customers that don't even live in the States

[ruby skiff]

thank god its a handheld i didnt want 😄

[stark cape]

It's gonna affect Anbernics in general, I'd imagine

[uncut storm]

...man, imagine paying 590 euros for a handheld...

[stark cape]

#🐼│ayaneo-chat

[uncut storm]

Hahaha

Yeah, i know

My sentence still holds

[rocky nebula]

This is such a tumultuous time for buying a handheld

[uncut storm]

Yeah, i am glad I bought a trimui smart pro last week

That will be enough to wait for a good while.

What level of quality do ayaneo devices tend to have?

[orchid beacon]

You must have huge hands, you make this thing look small

[vocal loom]

Definitely not, pretty medium, likely angle

Wish I had bigger hands lol

[still ocean]

To confirm, don't buy this handheld in expectations of a CFW, it may not happen if we cannot unlock the bootloader

[lapis moat]

Gamma I don't even buy groceries unless I know you can unlock my broccoli

[uncut storm]

Broccoli don't even taste good with stock OS, yuck

[thick sail]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-maui-moana-youre-welcome-sing-gif-16609713

I'm kinda glad they didn't go with the new snapdragon chip they'd promised after all

[lapis moat]

because...?

[wintry lark]

I don't think they promised a snapdragon

[stark cape]

It'd make it harder to pass up

?

[thick sail]

If nobody can afford it they might as well not want it

[warm wyvern]

100% , that sucks because we already pay VAT and even tariffs depending on where you live

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/mus8029-dj-khaled-gif-3555378993500057042

[ruby skiff]

thankfully, we don't have to indulge them by buying every handheld they make under the sun :3

[hearty hound]

that rip

[warm wyvern]

Tax excluded 🫠

[stark cape]

Fuck

Actually wait

[thick sail]

Is that a good tax excluded or a bad tax excluded?

[stark cape]

Flynn is paying like 260 USD

So really not that much more than the standard price

But idk what other problems AUD has

[stark cape]

Meanwhile Sleepy here is basically paying 350 USD

[stark cape]

Wait again

[thick sail]

Sleep's has vat included, Flynn will get it added

[stark cape]

Tax excluded

So Flynn is paying about 282 USD

Since Australian VAT is like 10%?

[warm wyvern]

They will add it later after check-out

[warm wyvern]

But i make my money in Aussie quids lol I am not paying 400AUD for it lol

[stark cape]

Yeah idk what Australian wages are like

[warm wyvern]

Me and Sleepy are the lucky ones 😆

[stark cape]

I looked it up real quick

Australia and Ireland have very similar minimum wages

[oak stirrup]

imagine using your money for groceries

[stark cape]

At least taking into account the conversion rate

Idk what the cost of living is like over there

Probably not quite as bad Ireland's but probably still not great

[oak stirrup]

if you get hungry, just eat each component of the handhelds you bought

[thick sail]

What if handhelds were cheap enough that you could afford groceries too?

[vocal loom]

They do have chips

[oak stirrup]

rg34xx cream salad sounds tasty

[warm wyvern]

In Europe depending of the country you will have to pay a customs tariff if it's more than 150€

[uncut storm]

Yup

I was only showing

[meager hatch]

Glad I got a used Razer Edge earlier just in case ……. need the scratch that itch somehow

Added my S9 and it’s great

[uncut storm]

I think it was 2.5% as a tariff here?

For less than 150

For more i don't remember

[warm wyvern]

If it's more than 150 €, you have to pay 25% over the price with IVA and you also have the customs tariff

[golden rapids]

Yeah

But it's crazy anyway, paid for RP5 little bit more than 200eu

[ruby skiff]

damn, yeah it's like £270 for us 😂 not counting any import charges if we draw the short straw

they can get fucked

[polar wadi]

Do you think you can get near 100% PS2 and GC on this device after you "do your thing"?

[desert lotus]

Yep. Most of these shops use AliExpress shipping too. So no choice options. Can’t ask for 4PX or anything. Sometimes tax other times no tax. Thankfully one I am not getting 😅

[ruby skiff]

i lost interest as soon as they priced it what they did and the first look videos 😄 556 is less than half the price

[lapis moat]

It's already 99.9% there for those, that's not the problem.

[polar wadi]

I though RGC's video showed several slowdowns... I mean PS2 and GC at 60FPS like on RP5.

[lapis moat]

It was a first impresison out of the box video. Russ already confirmed upon using proper builds for the apps later on most issues went away.

[polar wadi]

That's good.

[lapis moat]

If Gamma can unlock it that would moreso help harder to reach things like WiiU/winlator/switch

[ruby skiff]

a big if but yes

[radiant meadow]

Yep because if gamma doesn't unlock the bootloader it's game over

[lapis moat]

Not really true either but ok

[true hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/there-goes-my-hero-foo-fighters-foo-hero-my-hero-gif-6568166440187049284

[warm merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[stark cape]

I still need to see what those sticks look like outside of the device

Because I honestly imagine them working really well on something small

But the RG557 is not small

[lapis moat]

I also want a closer look at those caps they're putting in the box now too

[hearty hound]

exactly, even it down to 200-220

[long chasm]

Why the F did they raise the price just to match the Ias tariff thing

It’s bloody 300 POUNDS

Not worth it for the performance gain you get from the 556 to this considering you can fetch a 556 for £120-149

This thing is going to suffer in the sales

[radiant meadow]

I agree

[lapis moat]

Gonna need to wait a month or 2 at the very least imo

[hazy goblet]

I think they should try to concentrate more o different segments, AYN and Retroid are unbeatable when it comes to the price to performance, not to mention build quality

[orchid beacon]

A new xx line with a new chip would be awesome

[warm wyvern]

But in two months they will have released the 407 😂

[hearty hound]

or even rp6

[vocal loom]

Fwiw

A rg556 is still nice to have around lol

[warm wyvern]

Thing is , they can only do so much with H700 capabilities. They need to enter the midrange market and want to , otherwise they wouldn't be bragging about the power of the 557. But they chose the wrong chip 😂

[thick sail]

For $239.99

[warm wyvern]

We can bet on the sticks here.
It will either be these new small ones or the 406 ones

[velvet helm]

Dammit @signal cedar even WhatGeeks pricing was better then that! At least there I get free DHL shipping. 😭

[signal cedar]

It's a mess all around, we just haven't vetted Whatgeek before.

I'm not sure of their track record or ship waiting times, etc

I would not pay above $300 for this handheld, even $250 is crazy to me, but I know the entire market is rising so it will be more relative soon.

[thick sail]

I want the long bet on them responding to feedback and using their new fancy antimagnetic sticks just a bit taller/wider

[velvet helm]

I mean if you Stir Fry it or serve it in Korma... 😏

[signal cedar]

It's been a good 5 years, I think many of the more casual impulse buyers will become much more selective

[hazy goblet]

The chip is OK, I think they are incapable do make a good software xD 😄 But yeah I hope they will enter midrange again, they should do RGXX successor with a527 and RG3 (I think **3 was their last mid range line) successor with P65

[vocal loom]

Imo people should just not buy if prices rise lol. Not even consider, just don't do it

[thick sail]

I think anbernic's lineup going midrange would look a lot more appealing if pc emulation was at a more accessible point

[signal cedar]

I think that sends a clear message

This launch is just dead in the water for US customers, and because of the price increases, i'm sure plenty of other countries are feeling the pain as well

[signal cedar]

Well, technically this is the lowest price for US buyers, but still. $300 might be the floor we have to accept for the 557 right now.

https://rh-go.link/RG557_GGG

RHH15 for 15% off, bringing the price to $303

[long chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/star-warrs-obi-wan-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-5015340

[radiant meadow]

https://youtu.be/P9Q8Er2UrNg?si=WVblfWQC0abrySWI

@cunning plaza shout out to Todd

It's super weird that Ssx tricky having problems

Yet t820 would handle it

[cunning plaza]

Yeah I didn’t mention it in the video because I know I’ll go into depth in the full review later but the game runs flawlessly in dolphin but the problem is that the gc port of ssx tricky isn’t feature complete and so it’s not a simple just play it on GameCube we really need pcsx2 on android like yesterday

[radiant meadow]

I agree

[fickle belfry]

This is definitely going to make "just add a controller to your phone and it'll work well enough" a lot more appealing. People will have phones no matter what. A gaming handheld was always optional.

[lunar python]

Can't wait for the MCON phone controller to ship in August

[river parrot]

so in my testing so far, I've had cases where the T820 outperformed the D8300 in the 557 lol

[vocal loom]

Maybe I do just need a 556 again lol

[pale marlin]

I think this might be one of the most cursed handhelds I've ever seen

Not bad, cursed

It has so much going against it

[radiant meadow]

So dark

That's bad

Very bad

[rocky nebula]

ah... the rg556 meme again

[cunning plaza]

Something is for sure going on here cause same here maybe it’s being throttled or just can’t handles some of these random effects

[hearty hound]

3X MW realy consistant 60fps O_o shock (1920x1440) - that better than rp5 on stock

@cunning plaza do u use any hacks?

or just run by defoult nethersx2, and what emulation speed (if not 100)

[cunning plaza]

Not as a default unless needed

I mean in reviews

[vocal loom]

WTB 556

[hearty hound]

that interesting, u run in cmd script for max frequency?

dolphin seems broken asf with that chipset (still)

[cunning plaza]

I spoke with gamma and I think once he unlocks the boot loader I’ll be willing to test whatever he comes up with but as of right now this handheld may be dead in the water so we will see

[rocky nebula]

the t820 was also specifically made and tuned for a very niche Southeast Asian gamer phone though

[vocal loom]

Could you beat a gorilla with it though

[lapis moat]

Yea that thing punched well above its weight tbf

[rocky nebula]

we're putting a casual multimedia phone soc against something meant for binge-playing PUBG and Fortnite

[cunning plaza]

Sorry to clarify I didn’t use any speed hacks in the video just using the 1.8 version of nether based on the latest version of athersx2 1.9 has been reported to have some performance loss on some games

[pale marlin]

Yeah T820 was the price-performance champ if you were willing to put a lot of love into it

[hearty hound]

yeah true, some games runs slowly on latest build

[vocal loom]

I had sooooo much fun flexing that device. Did way more than it should've

[river parrot]

T820 really was an overachiever and I’m here for it

[rocky nebula]

bravo to the dude that got Fallout New Vegas running on it

[cunning plaza]

Yeah next video planned is 556 stick fix from gamma

[pale marlin]

If the 557 ends up pushing up 556 sales that'll be hilarious

[cunning plaza]

It won’t

No chance people will spend 250 on this

I mean someone will but not a lot will

[lapis moat]

I remember booting up Up Your Arsenal with no hitches ON MY 556 and going "huh." And then bumping it to 2x with still no hitches and going "HUH."

[vocal loom]

I'm super down to get a used 556 lol. I just love that thing

[lapis moat]

Stopped questioning it

[radiant meadow]

It's not good at all because now anbernic probably need to optimizations it get dimensity on the line or straight change the chip slap d1100 on it

[vocal loom]

You really have to stop expecting anbernic to fix optimizations

[tribal meadow]

This is all news to me, I kept hearing the Poco X6 Pro was this awesome gaming phone.

[lapis moat]

We'll get it unlocked, have faith

[rocky nebula]

it is, but the rg557 is not the poco x6

this device is tuned with some other jank firmware

[hearty hound]

tuned? it broken
realy tuned it will be after Gamma

[wide bison]

poco f6 is pubg m players ideal machine

[hearty hound]

its like x6 pro but with tons of junk

[warm wyvern]

The T820 is the little chip that could , i finished a bunch of cool indie Switch games on it and played 90% of Wii and GC with no issues.
For its capacities, it's quite good

[radiant meadow]

It's not about expecting anbernic is being stupid once again at least t820 devices didn't have this issue but its like deja vu with their t618 devices

[wide bison]

i agree most of my fav gc and ps2 games works great and i love it, if im favor more into racing games and bought the 556 i would cry

[warm wyvern]

I bet you anything they put that chip in there because it was cheaper to buy it in bulks and on paper it's more powerful than the SD865 , i also bet they didn't even check the compatibility issues , being more powerful was good enough for them

[hearty hound]

not anymore

8400 new king (solid imrove in terms of performance)

[rocky nebula]

holy shit it makes sense now.

[radiant meadow]

Even more powerful can't run true crime streets of la yk

[rocky nebula]

Anbernic pulled the t820 from the Nubia Neo 5g 1 and 2.

do you know what's in the nubia neo 5g 3???
THE DIMENSITY T8300

ffs man

[hearty hound]

and?

there no t820 special edition for nubia

[hearty hound]

its not qualcomm

[rocky nebula]

its the only phone that uses the t820.

[hearty hound]

oh, that

yeah

[rocky nebula]

from the gsmarena thread

might explain why at max tilt, the chip is still bad.

wait, i'm dumb

[radiant meadow]

But that's doesn't make sense because it's d8300

[pale marlin]

Convince nubia to put 8 gen 2 in their neo 5g 4, problem solved

[radiant meadow]

Not t8300

[rocky nebula]

you're right.

[rocky nebula]

nubia... made their phone line worse

they could use a step in the right direction

[radiant meadow]

D8300 is recently new chip so probably already had driver compatibility issues

Which explain the performance being so inconsistent

[hearty hound]

its not new

2 years

mtk just forgive again about chipset and didnt update driver

like rarely qualcomms (max one or if issues) and exynos do (always, amd <#)

with firmware update packages

[radiant meadow]

Exynos forgot to update their drivers 🤦🏾‍♂️

[hearty hound]

nop

never

this why exynos outbeat 8 gen 2 🙂 (vulcan)

[radiant meadow]

Oh thank God

[hearty hound]

on realease it lose even 8+

[radiant meadow]

Ooo

[radiant meadow]

Sometimes anbernic needs to take responsibility and make sure the drivers are updated

[hearty hound]

[radiant meadow]

Ooooooo

[radiant meadow]

Damn

[hearty hound]

s24+

8 elite (why it push to the limit gpu ) ?

it can handle 3x games at the same time ...

[radiant meadow]

S24+ is the one using exynos 2400 chip right

[hearty hound]

yup

[radiant meadow]

Exynos really improved tho it's crazy that it's doing better than red magic 9s pro

[hearty hound]

not exynos)

amd just took everything into her own hands

every single driver update increase performance and stability

[radiant meadow]

Wait Amd

[hearty hound]

last driver what i remember was, 1.3.279 comes in november 2024

with ota update

[hearty hound]

🙂 exynos use RDNA 3

[radiant meadow]

No way

[hearty hound]

and new exynos will get UDNA

since 2500 canceled last year

2400 (Xclipse940) has cuted (underclock) 780M

30% more raw power than adreno 750, so

[radiant meadow]

That's mad

[hearty hound]

also this why it can handle 4K switch emulation 🙂

[radiant meadow]

Samsung could make a gaming handheld alone

Using exynos 2400

[hearty hound]

yeap

ppls who know hardware side making samsung handhelds for switch emulation only

[radiant meadow]

Yhh

[hearty hound]

https://youtu.be/X-6c-5lY1so?si=wp8h9fSsShN21Vk5

🙂 repeat with elite

https://youtu.be/cTYi6hW_kO0

https://youtu.be/ua4OuguuafI

[supple anchor]

oh its for sale alreayd?

[hearty hound]

yup, but for 300$

[supple anchor]

we truly are becoming a more quality buyer community

[supple anchor]

what a bargain

[hearty hound]

DOA

[supple anchor]

i can get 2 of this for the price of 1 ps5 pro

[hearty hound]

alr, still this driver version

seems like they do everything already (forget, new update soon come)

elite btw latest

[radiant meadow]

Very niceee

[hearty hound]

@radiant meadow

🙂 first Xclipse, and it get Vulcan 1.3
Exynos2200, Samsung s22

same as latest

Driver support 7 years (with firmware)

cancelled Exynos 2500 (Xclipse950) is RDNA3+ underclocked 890m, and was in plan just in Z Flip and Z Fold before
Rumors 3 types:
2600 = Udna
2600 = RDNA3+ for all, even s26
p.s they can name it like 2500, since it ''delayed'' bc of 3nm issues in 2024 (many chips defective)

[radiant meadow]

Wow

7 years

[hearty hound]

that single positive side for ''samsung'' every phone models decent
wish amd get new partner ...

[orchid beacon]

What game?

[hearty hound]

trash, carx street

[hazy goblet]

They will, no one will buy this handheld

[still ocean]

I've yet to even look at performance stuff yet lmao

too busy trying to unlock this bootloader dammit

it's so stupid, we're one button press away from unlocking the bootloader, and yet it's nerfed

https://tenor.com/view/rosa-computer-smash-hit-punch-gif-14309452

[stark cape]

Why did they lock the bootloader?

Are they stupid?

[still ocean]

anyway, some quick benchmarks with some of my tweaks:

CPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11751717
GPU (VULKAN): https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/4088308
GPU (OPENCL): https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/4088292

you can compare to stock scores here: https://browser.geekbench.com/search?utf8=✓&q=rg557 / https://browser.geekbench.com/search?k=v6_compute&q=rg557&utf8=✓

[still ocean]

Now added the OpenCL score
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/4088292

[radiant meadow]

It's have more power than I thought

[still ocean]

I need to test a game

Will try later, open to suggestions

[radiant meadow]

A game try ssx tricky

God of war 2

Ace Combat 04 : Shattered skies

True crime streets of LA both gamecube and ps2

[ruby skiff]

Steambot chronicles

[radiant meadow]

Try Super Mario sunshine

Jak 2

Metroid prime 1 and 2

Soul calibur 2 and 3

[still ocean]

I'll only try 1 of those games, as I don't want to spend a lot of time on testing lol

I'll try Sunshine

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/another-one-dj-khaled-khaled-another-you-da-best-gif-16232853

[dawn jay]

Everything is working much better than my original video once I forced the CPU to go balls to the wall. Going to do a video on it soon

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-rub-hands-gif-10606843

Cowboy Zu to the rescue

[still ocean]

Quick test at 3x, MMJR 11505

[night briar]

That looks pretty decent at 3x 🔥

Anbernic should hire you as consultant before launching any handheld going forward @still ocean

[spiral sonnet]

Should run just as well on the official version on paper

[radiant meadow]

3x lovely stuff

[still ocean]

I forgot this came with a SD card full of games, I'll try other systems

Can do up to 6x comfortably I think with GCN (game dependant)

WW struggles at 6x on menu, dropped to 4x, let me get ingame

4x has some very slight dips, 3.5x is the sweet spot

3.5x generally seems to be the sweet spot

GOW 2, with no underclock at 3.5x plays smoothly

[radiant meadow]

Gow 2 is it with nethersx2 4248 or 3668

[radiant meadow]

Okay Okay

Very interesting

What about Jak 2 that's big question

[wide bison]

cool

[stark cape]

I hate to say it, but I find the 557 sticks oddly charming lol

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bpk-stan-twitter-kamala-harris-gif-3442956367210238051

[still ocean]

seems fine at 3.5x?

I'll record

[radiant meadow]

3.5x 👀👀

https://tenor.com/view/birdman-rubbing-hands-smooth-birds-gif-5326038

[still ocean]

Is there a specific spot I should check?

[radiant meadow]

What about the open world

Of Jak 2

[still ocean]

how much do I need to play? I need to go on a work call in 3 minutes

Settings if anyone wants them

[radiant meadow]

Just quick 1 min

If not later on when you are not busy

[warm wyvern]

Anbernic should just hire you tbh 🙏

[wide bison]

ong bro 🔥

[uncut storm]

I still don't see what's the big fuss about beyond choosing to be unable to adapt.

[still ocean]

I'll come back to that later

[radiant meadow]

Okay Boss

[radiant meadow]

I been saying this since two years ago

[stark cape]

Well the device shouldn't have sticks that are so small

The caps are smaller than the ones on Joy-Con sticks

Also, apparently the range of motion is rather small compared to something like the 406's sticks

Even if they function well, they're sticks designed to be a bit compromised to be more suited for smaller hardware

And the 557 is quite big

I'd imagine they're about as tall as Switch sticks, which means they'd be an amazing option for a smaller clamshell

Or if there's ever a device that tries to have a slide mechanism like the PSP Go

[uncut storm]

I can't talk about the range of motion or if it affects the different thresholds for movement in games, because those aspects I could absolutely agree can be issues that would render analog sticks disappointing or hard to work with...

But i just don't understand that the biggest most "enraging" issue is the size. There's quite a few aspects I find more important and vital than those.

Cardinal snapping, drifting, how they hold up over time, the calibration, their placement, if they so tall that you feel forced to be in uncomfortable positions to use the other inputs on their respective sides...

Size itself ends pretty low on the list. I understand it's the easiest thing to see but...

Even then, they been smaller/lower could make swapping between them and dpad/buttons comfier, or going from abxy to start/select easier.

Of course depending on your hands size can be in fact an ergonomic issue, I just don't get why it is "the" issue.

There's a lot that goes into a good or terrible stick

[stark cape]

It's largely just because they're considered a downgrade from the 406 sticks

The problem is definitely by and large the SoC and how Anbernic have configured it

[still ocean]

SMO, interestingly dropping the res doesn't make a difference.

Maybe needs a reboot in between

[uncut storm]

I guess I don't have that perspective as I never tried that device

[still ocean]

NSMB WII, 3.5 is the sweet spot again

TBH 3X is probably fine, beyond this is diminishing returns

[lapis moat]

3x is 1080p isn't it? kinda all you need

[uncut storm]

Totally agree on 1080

Well, really

480x2 is 960

Close enough, although wii is 525 lines

Anything over x1 is appreciated

[lapis moat]

Thank you for this Gamma, really. Want you to know your time on this is valued

[uncut storm]

Yes, thank you

[still ocean]

aaand battery is dead

right, back to my day job

[radiant meadow]

Hahaha

[radiant meadow]

Yep

[still ocean]

Some extra footage

[radiant meadow]

Sigh anbernic anbernic look at this power it's like gohan In dragon ball

[rocky nebula]

The trick to getting the most out of wii-u games, should you take that plunge, is setting the recompiler to multicore and the number of threads to max in the individual game options

makes Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta run like silk on the rg556

[hearty hound]

where artifacts o_O

[wintry lark]

Will keep in mind

[swift lava]

That does performance but my super Mario 3d world still crashes

[long chasm]

What resolution is this

[still ocean]

1x

[hearty hound]

3.5x (if u make it consistant 59-60 it will be epic)

[wary tiger]

Mmjr was pre installed on the device ? Or any reason to use it over the latest dolphin official on the rg557?

[hearty hound]

official always weaker, without impact in emulation-quality (accuracy)

[long chasm]

Not bad! For native I was expecting under

[long chasm]

As a rule of thumb it’s just easier to delete it all and set it up from scratch for best performance in case you get older software

Gotta test it n find out what works best it varies for devices

I’m buying the 557 on the 17th n have a mess with it

[ruby skiff]

and other devices 😏 😄

[stark cape]

Docked or handheld?

[rocky nebula]

mario kart 8 stalls when switching to another race still, too. i've just been doing single versus-mode races with the All Coarses Unlocked cheat and hitting Exit after the race is done.

somehow, exiting back to the main menu and starting another race is fine, but even doing multiple races on the same map hangs at the load screen for all ARM devices. its fine on my win600 and oxp

[cunning garden]

I got mine

[tight steeple]

I have to ask, did you buy it or was this sent to you for review

[radiant meadow]

We are back

[cunning garden]

it’s ok to ask, sent by Anbernic

[tight steeple]

Is the 557 at least competitively priced for domestic buyers?

[cunning garden]

it’s 250 usd in China as well

I think there’s a small preorder discount

so, funny story - remember the low 200s price rumour? it comes from someone asking for the wholesale price (need to buy a lot of units)

[tight steeple]

Ohhhhh

[cunning garden]

when I met them and had the hands on photo, they told me it was probably going to be high 200s

[radiant meadow]

Oooohhhh

So it always going to be higher 200

[cunning garden]

yep, it’s a shame there were some unrealistic expectations leading up to launch

[ruby skiff]

there's always trouble from 1 dickhead starting a low 200s rumor huh 😄

still, 250 was always going to be a tough ask

[cunning garden]

I dunno if it was 100 or 1000 units to get that price

[radiant meadow]

So after that it would be official 250

It's still crazy they didn't get it around 220 to 230

[ruby skiff]

and still crazy they decided to gimp the performance

[lapis moat]

With the full power fully unlocked the 250 kinda makes sense

[hearty hound]

Pocket 6 with G2 G2 should force out, to kill anbernic (250$ target)

[swift lava]

Mk8 literally doesn't work with multiple players

[rocky nebula]

so is the way to properly use this now running a script for full-spectrium cpu for light stuff, and running the all-clocks-max script for heavy games(6th gen and up)?

[ruby skiff]

anbernic has clearly robbed you in the past for this much effort in hate 😂 😄

[swift lava]

Sad because my phone makes a great multiplayer platform otherwise

Mkwii, moonlight, other Wii, smash

[hearty hound]

nah, i use 406 and 405 😄 and i like 556 (its not best, but its not bad)
rg406 btw solid imrove over 405, comunity was right

[wintry lark]

I love it when people in the community are the ones who have to fix the issues for Anbernic

[hearty hound]

but in this case they just fucked up everything (price, broken firmware, minor improves)