RG557

[lapis moat]

Would be a prime time for Anbernic to join the OTA game

Wondering if it's worth it for @quasi seal to also hit up his contact about this for the sake of more visibility

Unless it's the same contact lol

[quasi seal]

Same contact

[lapis moat]

Ah well

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-smile-smiling-heh-grin-gif-7041968712054828840

[quasi seal]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-lee-lee-friend-fan-club-ffc-gif-26246252

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/we-found-lee-lee-ffc-friend-fan-club-gif-26246260

If this stupid thing has like 30% more power we can't access....

[radiant meadow]

It does that's why we was confused God of war 2 got slowdown on 2.5x

[wanton flower]

I also have the same contact so... triple redundancy lmao

[tight steeple]

Doesn’t gamma have the same contact as well ;))

[dawn jay]

Contact deez

[lapis moat]

I keep seeing ppl say this but we've seen two vids now of it running at 3.5x so

Granted first stage only

[dawn jay]

I wonder if the throttling is also making it feel sluggish and causing those "memory leak" issues I kept seeing

I ended up setting 3DS games to 103% speed because it felt a hair stiff even at 100%

But it didn't feel smoother even going beyond 100%

[river parrot]

I also also have the same contact so... quadruple redundancy lmao OK

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-even-lol-meme-sandile-gen-5-gif-773411527041787354

[river parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-dinosaurs-thebaby-hahaha-funny-gif-3915552729604807489

[wanton flower]

I played a few minutes of the very beginning at 3.5x as well

But didn't play for too long

[radiant meadow]

Yeah russ was using nethersx2 4248 but when he used 3668 version God of war 2 can run 3.5x

[flat dragon]

A ton of slow downs and dips down to 20 and less. This is x2 on vulkan

[hearty hound]

yikes

[dawn jay]

This thing is so comfy and elite at streaming. I hope we can un-F the emulation performance

[wanton flower]

Is the white also glossy?

And yeah, very early impressions - price aside - heresy... I honestly think I might pick this over an RP5 at this point just for how comfy it is.

I liked the 556, but the performance wasn't enough.. this is.. probably? enough

[flat dragon]

White is glossy I’d say

DQ8 is a consistent 30 fps on citra with the default settings

Kirby planet is 60 fps with some dips when compiling shaders, but very playable

[wanton flower]

I need to un-anbernic and re-set this thing up with my usual stuff

[flat dragon]

Need for speed MW I did one quick race and it was 60 fps the whole time. Vulkan x2

[hearty hound]

x2 too low for that chipset

[flat dragon]

What do you want me to move it to?

[hearty hound]

um, should be 3-4

[flat dragon]

I can try that, hold on

[hearty hound]

alr

[flat dragon]

X3 is like molasses. Chugging with 15fps

Some 30 but still bad

[hearty hound]

rip

if i remember right, RP5 on stock can X3* 60fps

so this thing cant even handle display :/ (3x is full hd actually)

[flat dragon]

I’ll get my article finished up and we will have it next week with all the games I tried. I messed up my thumb earlier so I didn’t get too deep into them, just a level or 2

[radiant meadow]

Good advice if you are using the 4248 version try 3668 version

Because russ said 3668 works better than 4248 version let me find the comment

[flat dragon]

I couldn’t get true crime streets of LA to advance past the title screen, Jak 2 had some dips and characters had all black eyes

[hearty hound]

but i feel soon we will dont need ps2 emulator at all

bc this
Mali support added (vertex) not garbage virgl

[hearty hound]

btw, chinese girl who test X86 emulation use exact this on video (rg557) so yeah, performance real
not surprised that only them find a solution ...

[radiant meadow]

Wow

[flat dragon]

Never played the series before, but figured that wasn’t normal haha

[radiant meadow]

This gpu is having a lot of performance issues

[hearty hound]

gpu

or u mean SOC at all?

[radiant meadow]

I mean gpu thank you for the correction

[prisma seal]

This anyone really pre-ordered this DOA device?

[thick sail]

9 hours till pre-orders launch

I'm expecting it'll go a lot smoother than the switch 2 pre-orders

Cause Anbernic has their stuff together

[lapis moat]

Thank you sir

[fickle belfry]

It's too bad that Anbernic can't get their software working as well as their orders usually do.

[wary tiger]

Default as in 1x resolution? on vulkan?

[tribal meadow]

How's the decoding latency ms looking? I ended looking up the Poco X6 Pro's numbers in the meantime and they were bad. Could be down to their Android.

[wanton flower]

Not great, typical mediatek. Currently at 1080p60, 50Mb bitrate in moonlight, ~18ms decoding time

[cunning garden]

is there something I can help with, I guarantee my contact is different to yours

sorry I haven’t read upwards

my 557 arrives early next week

[cunning garden]

basically stuck in powersave?

[crude mango]

It looks like it might be that way, gamma will be able to confirm I think

[still ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-waiting-spongebob-waiting-spongebob-waiting-forever-spongebob-meme-gif-12410484197149593225

[long chasm]

Sounds like same with 556 performance mode

[long chasm]

Did you try that NFS fix

[signal cedar]

If anyone needs some last-minute additional impressions, our very own @hazy solstice got his unit in

https://youtu.be/mnfOCpm3Bpo

[cunning garden]

this works on a lot of games, not just NFS but can be some timing weirdness

[long chasm]

You’re alive!

Jokes when you’re stream expected

[cunning garden]

stay tuned, haha

[grave mauve]

is it a good time to order this device in 2~ish hours? or wait for more retail units reviews / better driver support first?

[long chasm]

Likely could be that they might fix it down the road with ppl like @rocky nebula and gamma doing deep testing n research into it. Though nothing subjective to change right now on the product only change was the thumb caps so you won’t be at any disadvantage getting it now vs later. Only thing is the device will mature and hopefully get some fixes

But take with grain of salt just wait if you really stingy with money then give it a while

[long chasm]

I grew up on those early comics love the pfp

[stark cape]

Richie

Is the direction the world is heading in the reason why you wouldn't wait for a 407H?

[crystal sparrow]

If you play mostly native Android heavy graphics demanding games, then it is still a better buy than SD865 devices...otherwise just wait

[ruby skiff]

odds of anbernic fixing their software fuckups is low sadly

[signal cedar]

Direct: https://rh-go.link/RG557

AliExpress: https://rh-go.link/RG557_AE

Amazon: https://rh-go.link/RG557_Amzn

[stark cape]

I would never support RH

Thank you for sending that link so I can drop it into the darkest pits of Hell

[long chasm]

Just want a 4:3 to play gc n retro, cba waiting any further they’ll probably just mess up the 407h

[radiant meadow]

Close to 202 after price adjustment

[stark cape]

Oh wow

You're getting that for surprisingly cheap

[radiant meadow]

Yeah and if I want to get a console only it's 199

[stark cape]

Only GCN game I can think of that the 406H mightn't be able to play perfectly would be Rogue Squadron

Because that's just how that game is

I'd say if the 406H does everything you already want, then no real point in waiting unless it's for a bigger discount

[ruby skiff]

huh thats not too bad

[radiant meadow]

Yh it's not bad but if we got 220 it would be much cheaper

[orchid beacon]

Not bad price, what’s that like the same as a flip2 and slightly more than an rp5?

To uk

[signal cedar]

Ah there's the Ali listing, https://rh-go.link/RG557_AE

[radiant meadow]

So flip 2 is not really showing up on their moorechip store but rp5 is like 207

So with price adjustment it's like 181

[orchid beacon]

What’s price adjustment? Shows £240 for me

For 557

Never mind, when I goto checkout

[radiant meadow]

Oh oh for 557

[orchid beacon]

I hadn’t gone all the way 🤣

Shows £202 now

[radiant meadow]

Yep

[cunning garden]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kiH4xpcl_9E?feature=shared

[fickle belfry]

Apparently, there was no US stock, so no RG557 for us ...

[radiant meadow]

Oh no no

Ail express for me

[orchid beacon]

I left it in my basket at checkout and it’s gone down £2

[oak kernel]

whats the difference between the 3?

[fickle belfry]

Maybe whether it comes with Anbernic's card of warez?

[long chasm]

Sd cards, go with no sd card

Get a SanDisk

[fickle belfry]

Since Anbernic is not currently shipping to the US, what happens if you actually place the order from the Chinese warehouse and have a US address? Free money for Anbernic? 🙃

[oak kernel]

ohh one has a cheaper SD card and another is sandisk?

[long chasm]

Usually it’s no brand and they fail at a certain point but sometimes it’s SanDisk or Koxia but rare

[oak kernel]

i see i see

[long chasm]

There for ppl who are too casual to do their own roms

[fickle belfry]

The only reason you'd get the card is if you don't want to download your own warez.

[tight steeple]

Left is anbernic direct store which is pretty much the same, except they sell sd cards instead of the case

[long chasm]

Yeah but best of both worlds to do it yourself and better firmware usually

[long chasm]

Would like the stable frames on burnout revenge

[hazy solstice]

Don't worry Zu
He's already supporting RH by being a participating member of the RH Discord

[stark cape]

Au contraire

Just because I'm here doesn't mean I have a positive effect on the community

[hazy solstice]

Not the community but talking here boosts our metrics for Discord

[fickle belfry]

I will find a Discord in you
I will chew it up and leave
I will work to elevate you
Just enough to bring you down

[stark cape]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-flash-gif-27280273

[hazy solstice]

It's just like how negative comments on YouTube still boost the video

[radiant meadow]

Let me check for you

[stark cape]

I assume US addresses won't be permitted

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/scrubs-dr-cox-jd-sad-gif-24645338

[tight steeple]

Yeah something along the lines of „this product doesn’t ship to your adress“ it’s unavailable at your location or something like that

[radiant meadow]

Yep

[stark cape]

Unfortunate

[radiant meadow]

I changed to 13th avenue brooklyn

Unavailable unfortunately

[tight steeple]

Unfortunately

[long chasm]

Look at that majestic face

[stark cape]

Don't let his good looks lull you into a false sense of security

He would sell your organs to the highest bidder for more handheld money

Happened to my friend Jamie 😔

[fickle belfry]

Well, I gave Anbernic a chance. But the lack of US stock gives me the perfect excuse to not raid the Legion Go 2 fund for some crappy Anbernic jank device.

[stark cape]

Did it fill any kind of niche for you anyway?

[fickle belfry]

An upgrade to the RG556 ... plus was going to do a bunch of testing on it since it'd be my only D8300 device. But if they don't wanna sell me one, I'm cool with that.

[long chasm]

Think imma just save money n go 406H White & RG35XX+ DMG Grey.

[warm wyvern]

You will be able to play the same games and the 406 looks more beautiful tbh

[lapis moat]

So Ali will still ship to US though right

Nope nvm

[lapis moat]

Sigh...

[thick sail]

They're just waiting to sell to us after it's all fixed up from the beta testers

[jaunty sonnet]

Don’t know if I missed it but all the US options are crossed out on anbernics website

[lapis moat]

It never was an option you didn't miss anything

[warm wyvern]

There won't be many and there isn't much anyone can do to fix it tbh

[lapis moat]

You must have missed last night's discovery then

[warm wyvern]

I did 😂

I log off for 2 days and i missed that now we have drivers 😂 jk let me check it

If they fine tune it , their 407 line will be interesting

[uncut storm]

What happened?

[lapis moat]

The performance mode within the CPU governor is basically locked in low mode

So the CPUs aren't running at their highest freq

[uncut storm]

Wat.

Why would they do that?

[lapis moat]

🤷‍♂️

[thick sail]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-lee-weights-naruto-chunin-exams-flex-gif-26433140

[radiant meadow]

Well it's like the same problem with ayaneo pocket air with d1200

[uncut storm]

So everything we saw is not accurate then?

[radiant meadow]

Yep

[lapis moat]

Everything we saw is with that limitation, which is pretty nuts that it's still that strong

[uncut storm]

The plot thickens

Does that in any way affect the screen'w pwm by the way?

Or they are unrelated?

[long chasm]

@warm wyvern Yeah sounds like a plan. Looksn much comfy to hold as well.

[rocky nebula]

lazy development. probably has some basic phone profile tagged onto governors with no editing.

[uncut storm]

...

[rocky nebula]

and it's all locked down so not even the system can do changes to itself

whole thing needs a reflash with permissions

[uncut storm]

So these are stuck on that?!

What the fuck

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-shocked-you-would-even-imply-such-a-thing-aziraphale-good-omens-gif-16034547564160371882

[lapis moat]

An OTA can probably unlock it but it's up to Anbernic

[rocky nebula]

as of now? it's functionally weaker than the 556(laffo) in places where software forgets to tell the cpu/gpu to scale. Like that boxing game shown earlier. you can just turn on cpu high and it smooths out on the 556. on here? nope.

[radiant meadow]

Deja vu

[oak kernel]

brroooo if they dont do something about it

its just wasted bro

[rocky nebula]

toggling the OEM Unlock and going into termux to permaswap the governor to performance might be possible, as gamma said yesterday. someone just has to be brave enough to not fly too close to the sun and brick their device

[uncut storm]

This is wild

[warm wyvern]

"They" would be the community and lads like Gamma.

[uncut storm]

Anbernic would fix it on the next batch or something i imagine... right?

[warm wyvern]

When Gamma releases the 507 OS then they will release the 407 for us to install the OS lol

[oak kernel]

the community is goateddd

[uncut storm]

Sheesh

So is a certain thing that will happen?

[warm wyvern]

Gamma should just release his own SD handheld , i'd pay for the kickstarter

[fickle belfry]

They went from "coming soon" to "not available" at exactly 6:00:00AM EST ... so they never had any US stock for you to miss.

[dawn jay]

Uh excuse me. Commenters on YT told me they would! They even said they asked Anbernic and Anbernic said there would be stock available!!!

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-internet-tell-lies-buster-lie-gif-4986649

[fickle belfry]

Anbernic? OTA? 🤣

[jaunty sonnet]

Blows

[warm wyvern]

Trust me bro !

[fickle belfry]

Insert [My source is I MADE IT UP] GIF here.

[warm wyvern]

I am the source

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-myers-hello-halloween-gif-14080729

[vocal loom]

No, absolutely not

[warm wyvern]

He asked them point blank so we know he meant business

[vocal loom]

Do not buy this if you aren't ok with where it's at right now

All else is not guaranteed

[dawn jay]

yeah, I'll do a "RG557 is FIXED!" video if we get a community fix or an OTA

otherwise, I'm very underwhelmed

[warm wyvern]

Wouldn't buy this one tbh Too undercooked and too pricey ( for being this undercooked )
You can save up a bit more and buy a Portal base model

[fickle belfry]

All of these new devices and I still haven't found one that actually makes me think I ought to replace my daily driver (Razer Edge 5G).

[warm wyvern]

I got the Flip 2 and won't buy anything else for a long time tbh
It's fine for emulating a bunch of stuff and has some bonuses like the Secret Console so i am good

[dawn jay]

SECRET CONSOLE is weirdly cozy on the Flip 2

and it has that sweet pacman clock logo on the top, which I invented

[radiant meadow]

Out of the razer edge software and anbernic software which ones is better for you

[warm wyvern]

So you're the man behind the idea , it's honor to meet you sir

[fickle belfry]

I think about the only thing I miss in the Edge software might be fan control - you don;'t get direct fan control settings on the edge. But I like that I don't essentially have to do anything to it - just play games.

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-check-real-patriots-real-american-patriots-real-turkish-patriots-umit-ozdag-gif-9523519369475511123

[uncut storm]

Don't worry, i think I will get a trimui smart pro for some light retro games while i wait what releases on the next months.

[radiant meadow]

Yh fan is crazy

But your razer edge never crash right

[fickle belfry]

Mine's been stable. Might be that I don't do Switch emulation so I'm not constantly using questionable Turnip drivers all the time. But running an Android game, PS2, Vita, PSP, and PS1 workload it's been quite stable.

[lapis moat]

Probably for the best that we can't even get it if we tried anyway lmao let it cook

[still ocean]

it's not a threat

you posted a screenshot, it has your address on it

near the top

the aliexpress one

[lapis moat]

How is that a threat, they're trying to help you lmao

And why here of all places to share it, talk to a mod if you feel uncomfortable

[radiant meadow]

Ohhhh

[thick sail]

It looks like he was trying to help you not dox yourself

[radiant meadow]

Guys miscommunication

[still ocean]

miscommunication it seems

[radiant meadow]

I thought he was talking

Yo

[hasty knoll]

we're all friends here

[radiant meadow]

@orchid beacon my bad dawg

Sorry Sorry

[radiant meadow]

I thought it was looking mad until gamma told me my address was showing

My mind went far ahead

https://tenor.com/view/im-so-sorry-everyone-freddie-harper-harper-house-im-really-sorry-its-all-my-fault-gif-26193337

[long chasm]

It’s cool man you doofus

[radiant meadow]

Thank you @still ocean for telling me

[uncut storm]

Glad it got sorted and wasn't anything bad

[thick sail]

Fr tho we need to send death threats to everybody who brags about being able to buy a 557 till they release them to america

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-reynolds-smirk-stare-smile-gif-4318212

I would buy 557 but I Want to see if they can fix the problem

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[radiant meadow]

And I'm broke as well

[thick sail]

This worries me the most

What if they stock 557 in the US warehouse but no case?

[lapis moat]

There's a million third party cases always available

[thick sail]

Yellow carbon fiber cases?

[lapis moat]

Hopefully not

[radiant meadow]

We need more of that

[oak kernel]

its the best thing ever

[tight cape]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-mcdonalds-wink-pointing-smile-gif-16021556

[fickle belfry]

So Anbernic is McDonald's ... I guess that makes Retroid Burger King.

[dawn jay]

after some more testing, I don't see any discernable difference between normal and high performance mode in PS2/WiiU/Switch/etc...

and I've also noticed that the CPU seems to cap out at around 50-55%, at least in systems where I can get that data

I tried a few overlays, but they were giving inconsistent results

[rocky nebula]

so the strongest core is only reaching ~1.6ghz, maybe 1.8

[dawn jay]

I'm going to try threatening @radiant meadow in a DM and see if that helps

[hearty hound]

even in benchmarks?

use btw SCENA app via adb for monitoring system in real time (most of function will work without root)

[rocky nebula]

one can only dream, but the phone is nerfed the same way:
https://youtu.be/XpO-oa6Xe6w?t=3127

[radiant meadow]

Oh dear 😭🤦🏾‍♂️

[hearty hound]

yikes RE4 15 fps O_O

light games 30/60fps, well not surprised

[rocky nebula]

the processor is operating at a 39c cap

[hearty hound]

month/2 ago i tested on tuned poco, so

cap not a thing for be that bad, bc without it perform the same

[rocky nebula]

i bet if this was raised to 50 or 55c, that would provide a noticeable improvement

but the rg557 doesn't even need it. it has a heatsink/fan

[dawn jay]

the fan agressively turns on when you get into higher-end emulation

like it's assuming a higher temperature load

[rocky nebula]

hmmm...

[hearty hound]

Horible firmware

[fickle belfry]

You gotta wonder ... was that hype video Anbernic put out on Youtube the only testing they did?

[dawn jay]

ROFL

[rocky nebula]

I need to grab a copy of "Millenium War Against the Pagan Gods" for my 556

[dawn jay]

Wild Life Extreme tests are done

Normal mode: 2863

[hearty hound]

And

[dawn jay]

High mode: 2851

[hearty hound]

Ahahahah

[rocky nebula]

BROKEN
MEDIATEK
FIRMWARE

[hearty hound]

It just broken

[fickle belfry]

Oof.

[hearty hound]

Anbernic firmware*

[fickle belfry]

"High" here means the processor is on weed, not that it's going faster.

[hearty hound]

300$ take or go away

[hearty hound]

High mean stability (if fan exist ofc)

[fickle belfry]

THE TOGGLES THEY DO NOTHING

[hearty hound]

It should try best to hold it on max possible lvl performace+stability

[rocky nebula]

@solid timber get in here. explain this

how much dev time did they put into governor and thermal tuning. be honest. you can say "none."

[radiant meadow]

Oh

https://tenor.com/view/worriedface-gif-4425173

[ruby skiff]

I am starting to think Anbernic officials really did break into n0name's house one day and shot his loved ones while giving him intense eye contact 😄

[radiant meadow]

Anbernic Anbernic Anbernic

[ruby skiff]

it'd be great if i could type properly today 😄

[hearty hound]

that was last chance for anbernic, if this was decent like 405, never again

[dawn jay]

any other benchmarks I should run in both modes to confirm this?

[hearty hound]

cpu can try

[warm wyvern]

It will eventually happen to all of us here if we keep complaining about the Android build

[hearty hound]

geekbench 6

[rocky nebula]

cpu-x will tell you what the modes are doing

[hearty hound]

maybe they tune only this ...

rofl team

[rocky nebula]

but someone already tried yesterday with cpufloat

[dawn jay]

I also wonder if there's something happening that is limiting certain apps

like Genshin Impact was running completely maxed out and looked/felt amazing

Geekbench on Auto Power mode is done

running on "high" now

I'll post the results when it's done

[hearty hound]

native heavy android games on mid-range running better with mali (but there exceptions without optimisation at all)

8300u (Poco x6 pro ''bad thin frame'') was first 250$ device who can handle +-good genshin maxed out even on start, when just released also with good frame stability and less heat than opponents with Qualcomm (stronger than 8+ gen 1 like 25-30% in gpu, and weaker in cpu single core in the same 25-30% for that price, that a real banger for native games was and emulation until ps2)

[dawn jay]

okay

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11682633

that's auto

here's "high" https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11682732

[hearty hound]

alr, they just dumb

Gamma will show how to make firmware them probably ... (8300 can be undervolted btw ''decrese consumption and heat and increse stability'', sadly OC ''gpu/cpu'' locked like new qualcomms)

[radiant meadow]

Oh no no

[river parrot]

the only thing "high" is the person that designed those sticks

[radiant meadow]

Anbernic Anbernic Anbernic

[dawn jay]

it's not all bad

High mode increases PDF Rendering

[hearty hound]

[river parrot]

OH SHIT ITS THE RETURN OF EXCEL MODE FROM THE WIN600

[dawn jay]

OFFICE PRODUCTIVITY BEAST

Anbernic's secret goal all along

[hearty hound]

ahahah

[radiant meadow]

Even tho it's impressive that even it's limited the potential it still perform well than I expected

But still unleash that power

[dawn jay]

in all seriousness, I'm like 10% annoyed, 90% intrigued at the actual potential power

hopefully this is an OTA fix before actual customers get it

otherwise it's a massive F-up

GPU tests are halfway done btw

[dawn jay]

yeah, 8708 on auto vs 8654 on high for Vulkan GPU testing

[orchid beacon]

What’s the deal with the 557? I’m kinda confused and not been keeping up

[hearty hound]

horible price, decent perfromance, dumb firmware

[thick sail]

Great looking case

[hearty hound]

theres more of a loss than 10%

waiting when guy send me tuned x6 pro score, bc i sold mine :/

[radiant meadow]

Holding the chip hidden power like Gohan

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-dragon-ball-z-let-go-rage-anger-gif-17162923

[still ocean]

ROFL I'm stealing this

[hearty hound]

@still ocean when ur device come out? also when 557 arrive

[signal cedar]

I see I woke up to Anbernic doing US customers dirty. $350 to buy it instead?

[short herald]

RGamma405M

[hearty hound]

Gamma should use qualcomm (8, G) and light versions p65/g90-95

[signal cedar]

It is barely worth $250, let alone an extra $100, but we'll keep you posted once we can locate a local warehouse option. GoGameGeek with coupons may be the way to go.

[vocal loom]

Fwiw high mode on the 556 did only very specific things that were useful but not immediately apparent. No clue what it's trying to do here

[wanton flower]

Where's that, ali? Their site just says sold out for us warehouse

Ah I see. Can't even order it anyway:

This is not helping my motivation to film a review on this one lmao

[pale marlin]

What I really want to know is whether those stick caps reduce the range of motion and by how much

[river parrot]

considering there's barely any range to begin with

[pale marlin]

I've long since given up on the 'treat it as a bonus' Android switch emulation hellscape, but I won't compromise on the comfort of the 556

[pale marlin]

Really interested in this - how bad is it?

[signal cedar]

There's range, but its not like what you'd get from full sized sticks

[fickle belfry]

"Just get a used ROG Ally, bro." Jesus Christ ... is ANYONE going to dump $350 into this?

[signal cedar]

Yeah no thanks 😂

I'd say just get a used ROG Ally, bro

Or their actually fully awesome handheld this year

The BatleXP G350

[wanton flower]

Sucks because I like the ergo of the 557, and the performance seems to be enough for me to play most of the ps2/gc stuff I'd care about (and hopefully can get better with a fix). I could even overlook the small sticks if that was it. But the price and availability just kills it.

[alpine bronze]

https://x.com/ZuReviews/status/1915785501040169397?t=R3Xp21aCtd_7bFPdQXaX2g&s=19

ZuReviews (@ZuReviews) on X

Soooo... I did some 3DMark testing on the RG557, and it looks like the high power toggle just doesn't work.

Normal mode: 2863
High mode: 2851

The "good" news is if they can fix this, the 557 might perform significantly better. 🤷

X · Apr 25, 2025, 3:10 PM

[fickle belfry]

Price: Stupid high. Availability: None (for US-ians)

[wanton flower]

Which isn't necessarily all Anbernics fault

[alpine bronze]

Has this been posted in here yet?

[wanton flower]

Though, I guess int'l prices still aren't great

for non-US

[fickle belfry]

Yeah - Price is steep even without US's shenanigans.

[wanton flower]

Oh, one thing I did note @rocky nebula there's a option in the anbernic android settings menu to run a script, might be able to get away with running elevated commands there.

Since adb shell didn't work

[fickle belfry]

I'd have been inclined to think their asking price was better if, say, they did something to make it more desirable like having a 120Hz screen for BFI (which this should be able to handle), but no...

[vocal loom]

So ok. On the 556, there were probably other uses, but it did similar on benchmarks. But it did fix some stuff that I could replicate, even though the scores didn't change much

https://youtu.be/VHx7x1XLrDU

This happened in other games too, like path of radiance. Just crawls randomly but CPU high clears it up

[pale marlin]

Unpopular opinion maybe but I'd have paid that price if they gave us 3 things:

1. Good sticks that aren't tiny, with good range
2. Per-app performance settings
3. black option (perfect for OLED)

But mostly number 1

And yeah the 556's high mode is a requirement for some things. Like playing burnout 3 without slowdown

[dawn jay]

yes, by me, like... 2 hours ago #1359106082781266044 message

[wanton flower]

zuception

[wanton flower]

I don't think number 1 is an unpopular opinion

[pale marlin]

Oh yeah everyone wants that! I meant more about the price being unpopular. This damn thing is so close to everything I ever wanted from an android handheld

[wanton flower]

Yeah I mean I kinda agree, the rp5 and flip 2 have both been a bit of ergonomic failures for me personally. So I'd potentially be willing to pay $200 for this. The small sticks is just so weird. They actually aren't too bad for accuracy. But.. would've been so good with the 406 sticks

[crude mango]

so the verdict is a pretty good offering for any country that isn't screwing their citizens? excited to see what gamma can do with this tbh

[grave mauve]

may I know what is Gamma?

[crude mango]

though personally I am holding out for an arc pro

[grave mauve]

its OS or a developer or?

[crude mango]

both, his username is gamma and he makes gammaOS as an android custom firmware

[stark cape]

Gamma is a guy

Who makes an OS

[grave mauve]

awesome cheers LF to more of their work

[wanton flower]

I mean price/performance is technically probably a bit worse than an RP5, but for people that don't like RP5 ergo if you're willing to pay the price it may be a decent device. The small sticks would be the biggest con, IMO. Keep in Mind I've only had it 24 hours and still getting it set up so these are only very early impressions.

[crude mango]

I doubt price/perf will be worse than the rp5 once the cpu/gpu governor stuff is sorted tbh, the gpu on the 865 is far far far far slower

[stark cape]

Yeah RP5 really doesn't have much in terms of direct competition

Which sucks because I'm not big on the stick placement

Part of why I ordered an Odin 2 Mini

[crude mango]

yeah the o2portal is the real counterargument to the 557 imo

its more money but probably worth it

120hz and 7" is huge

[lapis moat]

Literally and figuratively

[stark cape]

Why not just Odin 2 base?

Because LCD panel?

[crude mango]

yeah

it's not a great panel even by LCD standards.

[lapis moat]

Bad ghosting is all I hear about that thing

[crude mango]

its just a slow panel which causes both a bit of ghosting (it's far from unusable but I do find it hard to focus on the screen in really fast sidescrollers like sonic games for the genesis) and a bit higher input lag than other android handhelds

[stark cape]

Ah, so that's why I've heard it having higher input lag

[hearty hound]

yeah, cheap lcd panel (6 inch, easy to find amoled replacement)

[radiant meadow]

It's bad than rp4pro

[crude mango]

I never had an rp4 to compare

rp5 is my only retroid product so far and o2pro my only ayn one

[hearty hound]

or just find good lcd

[hearty hound]

rp4pro has fast screen

[grave mauve]

which1 of those is better for game streaming in ur experience, if u use that feature at all

[broken geyser]

Or drop 350 on a Bitboy One and try to get some of those crypto bro air drops to kick back some of your investment laughing loud

[crude mango]

I would say it depends entirely on the game

the RP5 ergo kinda sucks for stick centric games

[broken geyser]

Bring back the $299 ayaneo next lite with the 6800u

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[radiant meadow]

Hell no

No

From Ayaneo

Rather have GPD than ayaneo

Okay that's stretch

What about ayaneo air 6800u

[pale marlin]

I have an ayaneo (pocket air) and have to agree, it's a greek tragedy in handheld form - another handheld that's so close. Ayaneo software kills it. And your thumb catching on the right stick whenever you push face buttons - way too close to each other

Would've been incredible otherwise

[hearty hound]

steam os :/

oh its arm

than any custom

[pale marlin]

No cfw to set it free unfortunately, think it's on Gamma's backlog but that's a big backlog for a one man band

[radiant meadow]

Ayaneo pocket air man

💔

[pale marlin]

It's so close to being the stick top RP5 (well apart from switch stuff since it's mali)

But for non switch/wii u? Chef's kiss. Battery is Odin 2 tier as well

[vocal loom]

I found the Odin 2 portal to be fundamentally a better pocket air

Still light, similar feel but better ergos, overall better build quality

[pale marlin]

Agreed - I've got one sitting next to me, screen is something else, also the speakers are much better - best android bar none

I just think it's a bit too big for me is all. Really wish there was a 6 inch OLED screen for AYN to use

[wanton flower]

Oof. Just tried burnout 3 on the 557, not even running full speed at 1x in nethersx 1.8

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tupac-sad-sigh-gif-13059499

[wanton flower]

However GoWII at 3x running fine

Might have to try 3668

for Burnout

[stark cape]

Is Nethersx the one where there's multiple versions that some work better with certain games than others

[pale marlin]

That's ridiculous, that's 556 level performance! Might want to try the speedhack patch which is basically a requirement for that game even on an Odin - aside from the performance it makes it look a TON better (removes all blur/double vision)

Really hard to play that game on any android without the speedhack tbh, might as well be the default

[wanton flower]

Yeah, AetherSX 3668 was like the last not ad infested version of the app, iirc. NetherSX2 is patches on top of AetherSX2 for some game compat and stuff, but there's performance regression for some titles.

[pale marlin]

That being said it is quite telling about the 557's android build. Should only need the burnout 3 speedhack for visual fixes at this point, not performance

[wanton flower]

so I was able to successfully change governer using the script file execution in settings

So this opens some tinkering doors

[lapis moat]

Nice. Does that persist thru a reboot?

[wanton flower]

Probably not. Performance governor does seem to keep the base clocks higher in general and increase performance a bit, in the case of burnout it's not night and day but a little bit.

schedutil is also a little more aggressive at keeping clocks up. I think the default governor wants to keep clocks low... probably to extend battery life

For anyone curious, go to android system settings menu, scroll down to "handheld game console settings," > "Run Shell" > click the + button and open one of these text files, and then hit 'run'

you can make whatever text file with a shell command in it and run it here

The available governors are sugov_ext conservative powersave performance schedutil so I figure performance or schedutil are the best options to try and increase performance.

[signal cedar]

1 Week Review: https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-rg557-thoughts-after-a-week/

[signal cedar]

Thanks @flat dragon! Sounds like you and Zu are in the same camp on this one. 🔥

[wanton flower]

Ok, this script works, @dawn jay or @flat dragon , if you want to try it for any games that had issues and see if there's a difference. Same instructions as above for the governor settings.

should reset to defaults after a restart if you are concerned. But still testing to confirm

Yeah, it's back down to normal

[dawn jay]

lemme run the 3Dmark test again

since it only takes a minute

3164 vs the 2863 earlier

10%ish bump

[wanton flower]

That tracks with what i was seeing in nethersx2, a bump, but not huge

For games that are on the cusp it could make a difference, but otherwise not going to save anything

[lunar python]

https://youtu.be/33FJarxJQvI?si=V-DjvCIhr-8-6SNk
NS Mario 3d World running pretty well. Handheld mode, .75x resolution, suyu emulator. idk the channel owner

[alpine bronze]

.75x handheld or docked?

[lunar python]

handheld

[alpine bronze]

Oof

So, 640p pretty much?

Or 576?

[soft harness]

RG557 got the same cover via RG556? I mean case to 556 will be good for 557?

[alpine bronze]

Ngl, my math sucks but I guess I have some cognitive dissonance and didn't want to believe it was 540p

[dawn jay]

IT RUNS AT 557P

[lunar python]

540

[dawn jay]

MY GOD

[alpine bronze]

Please turbo mode fix, save us

Very random question btw

[lunar python]

A lot is hinging on this kind lady to reveal the secrets of Winlator. Timestamped 3:15. She plays Mario Odyssey 720p 60fps
https://youtu.be/EJDsWpXbIOM?si=jL_lxJLVt6sxEl5F&t=195

[alpine bronze]

Does anyone know if Anbernic and Ayn use the same shade of white

Like would my 40xxv look offwhite beside an Odin 2

[dawn jay]

I had the O2 mini next to the 557 in my video

https://youtu.be/1SVhNn4Y_EU?si=FyLkXu575TqHH-wl&t=431

[soft harness]

@dawn jay RG556 cover vs RG557 is 1:1 the same?

[dawn jay]

the screen protector?

I didn't get calipers out, but it seems the same

[soft harness]

I wonder if this cover from the 556 will fit the 557?

Beige

[dawn jay]

I think it's the same dimensions

[hearty hound]

ew 🤨

[hearty hound]

there no secrets at all

she using winlator 10 dev build 3

vortek

[lunar python]

oooooooooo 👀

[hearty hound]

alr, there no 6 oled displays, rip

[dawn jay]

okay, this 10% boost is kind of significant for things that were marginal

[hearty hound]

a bit need to use rasp 😄

[dawn jay]

I just played the first stage of Mario Odyssey at .75 and it wasn't a full 60/60, but maybe 56/60fps

[hearty hound]

how it going before script?

[dawn jay]

sub 50

[hearty hound]

12% gain, not bad

[dawn jay]

I have a screen cap, but it's too big for discord

gimme a second

[hearty hound]

hmm

[lapis moat]

Promising

[hearty hound]

best overlay btw (via adb)

[hearty hound]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fQ_3gi8hOfw 3x killzone hm (at least ''native'' handle)

[dawn jay]

What's it called?

[hearty hound]

Scene

@dawn jay

stable version, also beta build
Full functional ofc via root (what i show, adb) free trial

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

[wanton flower]

I just used cpufloat to verify my testing, but that one looks slick

[hearty hound]

full overlay (u can kill/freez any process)

how looks performance record (it dont decrese fps)
in race:

Luckily in 12 hours the rg406 will arrive and the torment will be over (hope!), I will finish my career with normal resolution and fps. and start again on ps2 (or X86, if driver compatible ''seems like it is'')

[vocal loom]

Nice, cool work y'all doing here

[rocky nebula]

So you guys have a script that sets clocks to max. Neat stuff.

Do outrun 2006, second mode, first option, and take the easy route(left) when the race starts. Report back how the Industrial District(stage 4) renders

[river parrot]

good shit man

[meager hatch]

So is this a yay or nay now ?
I was not a fan of the original sticks and the arguably better but still flawed sticks on the 557 really isn't helping with how tiny they are .

[warm wyvern]

56/60 is literally 120 fps compared to where this whole thing was a day ago. This is great

[lunar python]

Yay for Android games & PS2/ GC.
Still baking in the oven for secret console 🔴 NS 🔵

The few people who have a 557 in hands are working away. Patiently awaiting Winlator performance testing and guide

[rocky nebula]

I would say great for 3ds, ps2, and gc. kingly for android. a constant battle with vita and switch.

any of you guys with unit, and a working version of scrcpy with matching decent usbA-to-usbC cable, should do a lot of micro tests and drop them on streamable.com

[wanton flower]

A what with a who and huh

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/toby-fox-sleep-gif-1976385090274730509

[rocky nebula]

I must try millenium war on the 556 before i turn in

[spiral sonnet]

Apparently Wii on this is A- tier on the sheet

[stark cape]

Are there Wii games that don't emulate well? Ignoring control-related issues

[dawn jay]

There are also some theoretical dev-build Mali drivers floating around, but the apps that would support them don't currently allow you to install custom drivers on the 557

We could slowly unlock more higher end power, but it's still very much up in the air

[long chasm]

RIP 557

[rocky nebula]

so the pecking order now goes:
rg556/RP4 < RP4Pro/RP5/AyaneoPocketAir < rg557 < rpFlip/6 < Razer Edge < Odin 2

Lovely razer edge. can be found for ~180-220 used these days. dusts everything at and beneath the 557

[hearty hound]

sound sweet

[rocky nebula]

It's a bit like the GPD XP Plus. 21:9 aspect ratio, started at ~400usd, dropped down to ~240 new after a year.

[hearty hound]

hmmmmmm

sound like i need it, i thought used odin pro the best for this price :/

wait a minute... G3x-G1 exclusive for razer?

[warm wyvern]

That was always the huge wall with the Chip , unlock that and the possibilities are limitless.
It is a powerful chip but bottlencked by that

[rocky nebula]

[hearty hound]

hm

[warm wyvern]

Peak Mario design along with the Wii and WiiU

[hearty hound]

didnt know it exist in consoles btw

so, we have 4 ''new'' chipsets

[rocky nebula]

the big thing with the edge is if you don't like the ergo, you can change it to whatever you want.

breaks some people. it becomes "nolonger a console experience"

[hearty hound]

what equivalent to this?

[rocky nebula]

switch, y700 tablet, or anything else relevent

[hearty hound]

how it run switch this insanely good

its like gen2 or close?

[rocky nebula]

yeah there's a channel for it if you want to go ask people #🐍│razer

The rg557 is typical anbernic though. they never upgrade their new units beyond ~50% performance increase. I played 8th Millenium War in Sudachi on the 556 and was pulling ~66% the framerate(~31fps) of the Poco X6.(~25-51fps)

[hearty hound]

oh adreno 660 on 900mhz , alr (888+ thick for that price)

now ik how

[spiral sonnet]

G3x being based on the 888+ is abit of a throw off

Thank god for active cooling

[rocky nebula]

i think if the edge launched at its current price, people would have been a bit less spicey about it. Reminds me of the GCloud launch

[hearty hound]

gcloud is joke for price what they ask

[rocky nebula]

299 on opening day? for a sd720g?

[hearty hound]

yh

its not even close to Kona (865) = 200$

[meager hatch]

It's funny you mentioned the Razer Edge because.......

It so much better with the S9

[hearty hound]

it look like phone and controller, but normal active cooling do everything ...

[rocky nebula]

the only real reason i bring this up is because anbernic is pricing -over- something practically better.

if they dropped the price down to maybe 210 or 220, that would be -okay-. not great, but it would make sense

[meager hatch]

The Edge is really good , fans can get a little loud and run a bit hot when pushing but it's a premium piece of hardware that Razer just stopped supporting because they suck .

[rocky nebula]

retroid and ayaneo are the same though.

you get maybe one critical update and then they focus on the next unit

[meager hatch]

Yes but I think even they supported some handhelds longer 🤣

Plus this is Razers only handheld so you would think they would actually try to do a little better

[rocky nebula]

My pimax portal retro cries in the darkness

I am impressed by the PPR and sad that it was discontinued. it could stabley play skyrim on switch at 23-30fps in the android 10 version of yuzu. i just didn't think it was all that comfortable or stable. vita buttons and bad firmware

[warm wyvern]

It was an interesting handheld tbh I wonder what would they have released nowadays had them stayed in business

[rocky nebula]

the pricepoint was nice too. 140usd for sd865 power

[hearty hound]

how that cheap

it can be overclocked in gpu like regular 865?

wait a minute o_O it by defoult 900mhz

wow

O_O

[soft harness]

🥶

[hearty hound]

sucks

i have it

its not even close to tiny fan inside any handheld

[uncut storm]

I will never get tired of the overly exagerated promotional art of these things

[soft harness]

Dude.. Chinese PR promo 😉

😅

[hearty hound]

unfair

😢

[soft harness]

Its always the best but only in JPG image

LoL
https://youtube.com/shorts/Lv_bX_JPo4U?feature=shared

[hearty hound]

this not bad, but still even with that power will lose to regular fan inside handheld

[signal cedar]

😂 im not sure how or why my phone captured that

[wanton flower]

Playing some gran turismo 3, could only do 1x without slow downs but after turning on mild under clock (EE cycle skip 1) seem to be able to mostly maintain speed at 2.5x

[warm wyvern]

They weren't even that 'out of the curve ' with the design either.
I wasn't much familiar with them and i admit that didn't do much research at the time because i thought they would be Aya Neo expensive 😄

[spiral sonnet]

Hmm

On paper it should run at 2.5x no problem

GT4 does on the RP5 anyway

[wanton flower]

Some games running at 3x no issue. Seems hit and miss but haven’t tested a ton of games yet

[broken geyser]

Too bad that this is not still an option

[velvet helm]

Honestly the RG557 looks like a pretty viable purchase to me especially for Wii and below Emulation with Streaming and Android Gaming options.
Plus the Dimensity 8300 rivals the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 processor it seems.
https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-8-gen-1-vs-mediatek-dimensity-8300

Plus getting 256GB over 128GB seems like the better option for me.

[hearty hound]

yeah train left :/

[long chasm]

I think you’re better off with the Retroid Pocket 5 or save money and put up with T820 chip Anbernic devices.

[velvet helm]

@long chasm The problem is the RP5 only has 128GB of internal storage and the RG557 has 256GB. Plus for Wii and below Emulation the RG557 isn't a bad option even at $250 plus shipping.

I'm going to wait but I'll definitely buy this Handheld.

[velvet helm]

@hearty hound Honestly after putting Beacon Launcher on it I love my Pimax Portal now.

I hated it at first. 😅

[vocal loom]

As someone who really wants this. IMO it really gets to the price of, save up a bit more and get a base ayn portal

[hearty hound]

u have portal and want to buy this joke ...

[wintry lark]

Why couldn't they just give it full size sticks 🐈

[velvet helm]

The only problem for me is Android Gaming. 128GB of internal storage isn't going to cut it. Plus I REALLY don't care for both Wii U and Switch Emulation right now. Plus my Loki Mini Pro covers my bases for PC Emulation Wii U and above. So I'm good.

[wintry lark]

The humble sd card

[velvet helm]

Not for Android Gaming.

[wintry lark]

Does it drastically impact performance?

[hearty hound]

nop

it wont at all

[velvet helm]

I told Anbernic they should have put full sized sticks on it but they obviously didn't listen.

[hearty hound]

u just need high class sd card and root

thats it

even u can swap internal storage with sd card

🙂

[wintry lark]

Oh wait, forgot some games don't let you move to an SD card

[velvet helm]

@hearty hound The problem is many Android games require Internal Storage to do that on an SD card means I can't use it as portable storage.

[long chasm]

Internal don’t really matter when you can get big sd cards

[velvet helm]

Yep I want a Handheld for Wii and below Emulation with reasonable Streaming and Android Gaming capabilities.

[long chasm]

My bad forgot about android games being difficult with storage

[velvet helm]

@long chasm Certain Android games require Internal Storage.

[hearty hound]

:/ isnt it bad in Wii?

and Wii U almost unplayable

[long chasm]

It should be enough though considering like codm hd resources is like 10-20gb

[velvet helm]

Wii U yes Wii most likely no.

[hearty hound]

codm full 40gb

🙂

[radiant meadow]

He love the game

[velvet helm]

Like I said I honestly don't care about Wii U and Switch Emulation.

Besides like I said I already own a Loki Mini Pro for Higher-End Emulation anyway.

I'll wait for a US seller to sell the RG557 then I'll buy it.

[long chasm]

Damn

I uninstalled it now that I got delta force

It’s weird seeing it back because I played the delta force FPS games

[hearty hound]

soon it will be 50gb

[long chasm]

Why’s that

[warm wyvern]

Speaking for my experience, i could run Wii just fine on the T820. The only two games that gave me trouble were Metroid Prime 3 because i couldn't set up a certain movement with the controls and Little Ninjas for that same reason + a graphical glitch.

[velvet helm]

Honestly I just want better Widescreen PS2 and GameCube Emulation.

[warm wyvern]

HD texture packs also , they're fun to mess with

[velvet helm]

@warm wyvern I agree 100%.

[hearty hound]

more content

[hearty hound]

it cant beat even 865 :/ or tuned 855

[lapis moat]

The T820? Of course not

[hearty hound]

8300

[lapis moat]

Then yes it does beat it lol

[hearty hound]

🙂

[lapis moat]

How many more vids do we need to prove it

[hearty hound]

zero vids prove it, they just show how weak it is compare to rp5

except andoid games

[lapis moat]

If you don't like the device there's no reason to be here, you just say things to be negative

Multiple testers have been able to upscale higher than the rp5 can upscale

[hearty hound]

i dont like price, device decent

[lapis moat]

It's tiring

[hearty hound]

lie

[lapis moat]

...why would they lie

[hearty hound]

not they, u lie 😄

every single compare in emulation end with lose to mali

[lapis moat]

? I'm not even the one reporting it, they are

[hearty hound]

drivers is everything (mtk can fix that, but they wont make it open source)

[lapis moat]

For switch yes, for PS2 it still surpasses, which we've seen many times already

[hearty hound]

most wanted 2005 3x, 15-20 fps, tested today yesterday there

power

[lapis moat]

I gotta stop talking to ragebaiters man

[hearty hound]

im not, just show me any proof 😉

[lapis moat]

Brother you've been in this channel just as long as I have and have seen every vid posted here

Do I really need to go back and get the links

You just hate it and don't want to hear anything

[hearty hound]

yeah, i see them too. and i dont see any win for 8300 (Emulation) thankfully it can now x86 on decent lvl

[radiant meadow]

It's okay people good thing that 8300 can be suitable for 407h/m especially with their hidden power

Not to push resolution too high

[hearty hound]

yh with 4 series it should be good, if they dont use again something and put insane price

but i feel they will not use it again)

1100-1200 at max

or even 900

[radiant meadow]

I mean so far they been here before I mean t618 on 3 three 4 devices on t820 we will expect the same on d8300

[hearty hound]

i dont expect that

[wanton flower]

Sounds like I need to rehash my 556 v rp5 video with a 557 v rp flip video

[lapis moat]

https://youtu.be/0EpuXe7kqyk?feature=shared

Since it's been forgotten

[hearty hound]

and?)

now check rp5 lol, even on stock frequency

[lapis moat]

I own an rp5, well aware of it, does not match that level without slowdown.

[hearty hound]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-skill-issue-diagnosis-skill-issue-draker-discord-gif-22231351

[radiant meadow]

It's drivers that matters remember rp4 pro performance d1100 they managed to make it work full potential

[hearty hound]

is it?

[radiant meadow]

Yep it's reason why rp4 pro didn't have real issues that spoiled the experience

Again didn't beat Against rp5 because its snapdragon but it went toe to toe especially on ps2

[radiant meadow]

Now d8300 is good chip just needs to show their full potential

[warm wyvern]

Their 407 line will be interesting tbh , specially the V version for me. The guys here are doing some good development and in just like 2 days 😅

[radiant meadow]

Yh same it needs to polish up the experience

[warm wyvern]

Yep , if they unlock what it can really do it beats up a lot of what's avaiable now. Time will make it right tbh

[radiant meadow]

Yep

[vocal loom]

This will not be acknowledged lol

[crude mango]

I don't think a positivity circlejerk to encourage rampant consumption actually does anyone any favours beyond validating people who are looking at reviews for things they've already ordered

[crude mango]

I'm really curious what they're gonna do with the 407v - the 406v is kinda already perfect for everything I'd want in that form factor (no analog triggers for example)

the new smaller sticks would be a downgrade if they don't redesign the whole thing to be a lot more sleek

[warm wyvern]

It would be so cool if they released the 407V with the d-pad on the botton , it's the only thing that i would change tbh
The sticks they used on the 406 line were perfect , very precise. Perhaps they will use them again after people didn't care much for these new smaller ones.

[crude mango]

stick top on a vertical is cursed

the whole thing I like about the 406 is that it's the only handheld that is actually dualshock layout with the sticks properly inset

[warm wyvern]

But hear me out

[crude mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-grimace-ouch-gif-3777176257656552688

[rocky nebula]

Don't feed the troll

[crude mango]

I mean if they make a good enough 40yyV or whatever replaces the 40xxV I can forget all about the android line

[rocky nebula]

dude literally comes on to piss people off half the time.

[crude mango]

just need vulkan for slang shaders, the 406 screen, and enough power to use the nicer emu cores (mgba with fast forward and beetle psx hw) and psp.

[warm wyvern]

Stubbs posted an article that they're working on a clamshell too , it will have the H700.
If they released one with the T820 or some other more powerful chip i'll buy it day one

[crude mango]

I just want the 406 screen, dpad top, and pocketable tbh

more power for slang shaders would be a bonus

[wintry lark]

Custom made 1280x960 screen for 407h 🤑

[crude mango]

960x720 is better for gba and gbc

honestly I want the 406 screen in everything

[wintry lark]

Well tbf you wouldn't really need a new 407v/407h for that

[crude mango]

arc pro with sticks wen

[crude mango]

true, an arc pro + a replacement for the 40xxV would do it

[warm wyvern]

It is coming , i guess in 2 months they will show a new handheld with the new chip.
The CEO said they're planning to release 8 handhelds this year , there will be something for us

[warm wyvern]

The arc was interesting specially because we don't see much love for Sega in this hobby. That Gamegear like handheld was cool too imo

[warm wyvern]

We always need a need one lol

[meager hatch]

What are the chances the updated 406V/H series uses these tiny sticks ?
All they have to do is change to the D8300 and not change anything else besides some minor refinements and they have a winner .
The microscopic sticks really killed the the 557 for me and this is someone that likes using the 556 ( besides the sticks )

It's Anbernic so they'll screw it one way or another

[vocal loom]

I mean even people who really want it have been acknowledging the issues with the device lol

I think most people are realistic about it

[cunning plaza]

Got my review unit in today will be working on my video this weekend but spoiler for the RH discord mine shipped with burn in out the box let this be a caution to anyone thinking about getting one I don’t want anyone else to experience this for me it’s a bummer but I didn’t pay for this device so I will live

[vocal loom]

Can you point it out?

[cunning plaza]

It’s easier to see in the google chrome photo keep in mind it’s much more obvious in person

[wintry lark]

This part?

[vocal loom]

Right yeah i'm not doubting just it's hard in photos

[cunning plaza]

Yes I’ll try to capture a better photo with my mirrorless but didn’t wanna waste time warning others

[warm wyvern]

That's a bummer , i believe the same was happening with the first batch of the Cube as well

[south arrow]

Can you tell what is burnt in? Seems like a text logo

[crude mango]

here's when I again shill the fact that the gamegear was 4:3 despite being 160:144 (the pixels weren't square) and therefore the 406 screen is the only retro handheld screen that displays it perfectly (5x vertical integer 6x horizontal integer for perfect and corrected to 4:3 images!)

you can do that on a 720p widescreen like the rgb10max3amateur but with pillarboxing

[cold void]

Anbernic will say it's an engineering sample and the retail units won't have burn in 😉

[cunning plaza]

I’ll keep you all posted with their response I also asked for a replacement screen to see how generous they are feeling

[thorn garden]

It might be a screen layer defect and not burn in
Either way it sucks

[cold void]

Oh and to capture how bad the burn in is. Pick a grey background

[thorn garden]

Instead of factory second screens they went for fourths

[cold void]

Yeah It may just be a flaw in the panel itself I couldn't make out what it was.

Hahah

They scraped the barrel for those panels. Super PWM flicker and burn in guaranteed

This device is definitely interesting on paper though I've been watching this channel. It has a lot going for it in terms of specs. The tiny sticks questionable panel choice and power profiles remain to be seen.

[cunning plaza]

I will say the brightness in this panel is about 50% brighter than my 556 and it’s supposed to be the same panel so maybe they tuned the bright to push the pixels to hard

[cold void]

OLED panels are at greater risk of burn in the brighter they are. But yours was that way out of the box. It usually takes a couple hundred hours minimum

Also there is temporary image retention my Odin 2 Portal does that sometimes and it only shows for a moment on a grey background

[cunning plaza]

Yeah but if the max brightness was over boosted by anbernic botched software that would cause it to happen or…. These are never new panels to begin with 🤔

[signal cedar]

Oh damn man

[wanton flower]

Mine definitely has Mura on a grey screen but so did the 556 (and most oleds to some extent), I don’t think it has burn in. Hopefully just Todd got unlucky here…

[cold void]

Definitely will need a bigger sample size then 3 to see if it's even an issue.

What happened to that infamous USA launch party ?

[cunning plaza]

Thanks Derek love you too bud 🤣

[cunning plaza]

Supposedly my rep said they will be stock in the us soon tariff free while supplies last… and if they are telling the truth I’ll be the one to bite the bullet and drop $250 on a retail to see if there is any difference

[long chasm]

Was it an early prototype review unit or the full real deal

[cunning plaza]

I mean it was provided before retail units were shipping so I suppose it’s technically preproduction but it should be final hardware not a prototype

[thorn garden]

retroid did the same thing with the flip2 just now

reviewers wanna review, not beta test

[long chasm]

It’s ridiculous how easily they make mistakes lol

[radiant meadow]

Wow

[crystal sparrow]

I think there is a slight RGB light leakage on the right side of the transparent purple model. Does your white model have it as well?

[modest grotto]

No-need-to-tinker PS2 ready 4:3 handheld when? Will 407V/H be the device?

[velvet helm]

It already has, It can go up to 8X in GOW can the 865 do that? No. 🫤

[velvet helm]

I'd argue Wii and Below Emulation. But yeah, appearly there's more to Emulation than just Raw Power. However for my Gaming needs the RG557 should be fine. Still pretty disappointed about the Analog Sticks tho. ☹️

[velvet helm]

You're joking right? Now you're trying to say that the RP5 is more powerful than the RG557!? 😂

The only thing I have to say is that if Retroid sucks at Retro. Anbernic sucks at Modern. 🫤

[long chasm]

Probably RP Mini V2

[oak kernel]

https://youtu.be/tTqtfyH6hkY?si=mQ6Zygu5-u3QMsMp

[pale marlin]

Lol at the thought this panel "scrapes the barrel", just last year it was known as one of the best screens on an Android handhelds, eclipsing nearly everything else. Having other great screens available doesn't make this one any worse, it still looks incredible

[dawn jay]

The 505 was the barrel scraper tbh

Splotchy AF

[long chasm]

I think can definitely agree on 505 being the scrape bottom

You saw nothing Zu

[lapis moat]

Oh mama. I'm right there with you

[velvet helm]

@pale marlin A lot of the newer people in this community are incredibly fickle.

[hazy solstice]

Don't forget the 503 used the same screen and was splotchy as hell too

[rocky nebula]

what do you mean, splotchy

the 505's worst feature were the l2/r2 position. it made pressing them pretty painful in long game sessions

[rocky nebula]

i may have to borrow and alter this script a few times to tune the e6max.

sinyorksu has it always running in a high-roller performance mode, which effs the battery life

[warm wyvern]

The screen on the 506 was quite good imo. I really don't mind their IPS screens either , i can't complain about the image quality.
They seem to be having a rocky release with the 557 though , they sort of rushed it i think.

[uncut storm]

It's very unfortunate because they could have had a pretty good hit

[warm wyvern]

It happens , they will have other better releases

[zealous ridge]

280€ on AliExpress
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004323919323.html?
that's 100€ more than the 556 goes for

[hearty hound]

[warm wyvern]

RIP

$414 in my dollaridoos lol

[regal quail]

You realize people will literally never do this, right? Like, the AYANEO and Retroid channels are already borderline-historical proof of that.

[regal quail]

Ah wait, SuperBottle already said it.

[lapis moat]

🤷‍♂️ kids will be kids

Still worth trying to teach the lesson at least

[regal quail]

GBoy mention. Excellent, more people should show it, it’s honestly a really cool modding endeavor since it was essentially someone trying their hand at making a Wii portable mod that’s actually accessible. It unfortunately fell through, the manufacturer ditched the modder. But it’s still pretty sick as an idea.

[uncut storm]

180 for the 556 is a good price? because seems also a bit high seeing how you can get an rp5 for not much more

(honest question)

[lapis moat]

180 is basically retail price I wouldn't call it a good deal

I got mine for 160

[uncut storm]

a chunk of these devices seems to not get price cuts after time,

[lapis moat]

Anbernics def do

[uncut storm]

really? Seeing how the 557 is already here I imagined they would lower the previous one... Then again, maybe that'd be bad for the 557

[regal quail]

Checked for the sake of anyone in the US, it’s $320 USD.

[lapis moat]

You're looking at the official site is probably why. They hardly ever lower it there, but they join the sales rotation almost instantly elsewhere

[uncut storm]

it really becomes odin level price

[uncut storm]

Yup, I did have their site in mind...

[lapis moat]

Nah direct site is a wash. It's not like retroid/ayn where their site is the primary or only place to buy their stuff

I'd go as far to say Anbernic's site is the last resort to get something from them

[uncut storm]

really? that's pretty sad, in all honesty

[warm wyvern]

Bro i remembering seeing the vids for it and wanting one so bad back then. We were stuck on up to stuttetering psp emulation so the Gboy seemed so cool.
It's too bad he ditched the modder , he was having decent sales on Etsy as i remember. It was indeed a great idea

[warm wyvern]

You'd have a better return policy with a third party seller

[warm wyvern]

When it came out it was , now they should go for $160 imo

[uncut storm]

but then I guess they'd have to lower all the other "6" systems too...

[warm wyvern]

I guess when they release the 407 ones they will go for $230

[crude mango]

probably not if they use the 406 screen

they could pull off $199 for a 407 I bet

[warm wyvern]

I think it's the same price they're selling the 406 on Aliexpress now , it's always more , the Chip is the excuse

[crude mango]

the 406 is 160 USD atm

[zealous ridge]

before or after shipping and tariffs
because the 280€ is everything included at least

[regal quail]

Before.

[vocal loom]

It did look great. But imo, it was great cause it was OLED, not that it was a fully great OLED, if that makes sense. Fwiw, I tried the retroid pocket mini and I wouldn't have considered that a great OLED either. So far only ones I would've considered great OLEDs that I've tried would be the razer edge and the Odin 2 portal.

[regal quail]

It is literally $319.99 USD if you look at it on the item page alone, so before literally any extra charges like shipping or tax.

[warm wyvern]

Hot take but sometimes a good quality IPS is better than some cheap OLED screen

[vocal loom]

I would consider the G cloud above the 556 and pocket mini yes

Much much better

[hearty hound]

outdated info

even cheap oled/amoled now better, but before yes this can be

unless you count the lower brightness as a serious disadvantage.

[prisma seal]

RG557 more like RGDOA!

[hearty hound]

exactly

[signal cedar]

Direct: https://rh-go.link/RG557

AliExpress: https://rh-go.link/RG557_AE

Amazon: https://rh-go.link/RG557_Amzn

GoGameGeek: https://rh-go.link/RG557_GGG
Use RHH15 for 15% off

[cold void]

Please note the prices displayed DO NOT include customs duties.

Yeah ....

[lapis moat]

I assume they mean Anbernic customer service to register email, not Ali CS right

[thick sail]

But the prices in Europe do include tax which they are subsequently not charged for?

Wtf?

[warm wyvern]

You see the prices with the tax on the EU and pay the untaxed version to Aliexpress , when it arrives the mail charges the custom fee.

[thick sail]

So if you guys luck out and get it through with 4px it's actually below the listed price?
That sounds a million times better than having taxes added on top

[wanton flower]

Man, being us based the desire to review is low. You can’t buy it at all right now… and maybe there will be some limited stock in the us warehouse

[warm wyvern]

From my experience while there customs never misses their cut. If a product that's more than $150 was shipped outside the EU you will get taxed.

[lunar python]

where did @557snifferFlip2 hater go

[long chasm]

Dunno

[long chasm]

Need to migrate to the UK mate

[lunar python]

What's crazy is that retrotechdad has had better switch performance on the $130 new Retroid Classic than the $999 557
https://youtu.be/e3UvzyfriSQ?si=VocSiCI0XJ3KlsQp

about 25mins ago in the podcast

[hearty hound]

like i sayed 🙂

qualcomm ❤️

[hazy solstice]

Man the 557 is such a comfortable handheld

[hearty hound]

same as 556 (copy)

[hazy solstice]

I'm aware
https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-rg556-a-first-comparison-to-the-rp4-pro/

[vocal loom]

It was my absolute favorite handheld lol. The form size, comfort etc, very nice package overall. There's a reason people still want a 557. I have a Ayn portal, likely it will just be better in pretty much every way, but I'd love both just to have both lol. Very few handhelds make me break logic purely just to own

[hazy solstice]

If there's one thing I'll give Anbernic complete credit for on the 556/557 it's the ergonomics of the thing. I was someone who wasn't big into the Portal ergo.
Since I don't buy grips either it makes that one a no go, but Anbernic at least knew what to do when building it in

[hearty hound]

fair

[lunar python]

every device release is just one or two changes away from perfection. Such a pain

rp4p, middling screen 556 cardinal snapping & display out and charging issues rp5 bad ergos flip 2 fan noise 557 driver compatibility

[radiant meadow]

At least rp4pro rp5 and flip 2 doesn't hitch the experience even 556

If 556 didn't had a bad stick it would be perfect

But 557 feel like idk

[hearty hound]

odin 2 bad screen (slow and not good in quality)

[radiant meadow]

You know it's so funny companies does this so people can get next better product

[hearty hound]

rp5 can be ''fixed'' with grips, so idk why it should be a problem

[lunar python]

the o2 mini and portal seem pretty much perfect.
that being said, I only own the rp4p so the rest of my opinions are just from watching every review out there

[hearty hound]

or even swap cases for 3d printed 😄 (it easy)

[lunar python]

very true

[radiant meadow]

O2 mini was not a oled screen

[hearty hound]

o2 mini not bad, but portal has insane screen for that price

like x86 top tier handhelds

[radiant meadow]

Which still conversational till this day

[hearty hound]

but its quate a big (for me that big minus)

[radiant meadow]

It's funny I remember when people got so disappointed with Odin 2 mini being mini Led

[hearty hound]

yeah, 384 dimming zones panel (with normal algorytms)

sick for 5 inch

[lunar python]

screen doesn't have to be OLED to be great. o2 mini screen gets a pass

[hearty hound]

its not oled, but ... i would say in some scenarios it pretty close

already tired with my 406, so ... odin2m should be ''soon''

[radiant meadow]

I think another thing was the device was warm or the price but honestly look back at odin 2 mini it's underrated

[hearty hound]

or odin2 with top ips pannel for replace (there no oleds for that size)

[radiant meadow]

I think odin 2 with mini led would sort lot of problems

[hearty hound]

closest 😦 (there no other option at all)

[vocal loom]

If you really want a perfect handheld just get the Odin 2 portal. To me this would scratch my tinkerers itch, something I got out of the 556

[hearty hound]

too big :/

Other than that, hes perfect.

[vocal loom]

It doesn't feel big. At the rp5/556 level you aren't pocketing them anyways

[hearty hound]

well rp5 can be in big pocket

portal almost unreal

[vocal loom]

Nah

That's just splitting hairs where it's kind of goofy to

[hearty hound]

also weight annoy me

half of kilo (both)

mini 300grams, nice

[vocal loom]

Plus realistically a literally perfect handheld will never exist. Id say the portal is the absolute closest on android and it's not particularly close

With that being said I still want a 557 lol

[radiant meadow]

I know but if I do I can't get the steam deck oled

[hearty hound]

wonder what psp2 will be ...

[vocal loom]

Deck OLED is really really good

[hearty hound]

if they mark ps5 performance (ofc with fg) it should be at least 890m

[vocal loom]

Id recommend that too

To me deck OLED is the comfiest device out the box

[hearty hound]

but weak

[vocal loom]

Honestly

[hearty hound]

too good for emulation, too bad for native (nowadays)

for that price

[vocal loom]

I stream at home. If I don't travel a ton so that doesn't really matter to me

I like indie on the go too since my trips aren't crazy long, and I take android outside the house more often

[hearty hound]

Rog Ally with steam os and tuned battery my choice for x86 for cheap

[radiant meadow]

Honestly not really people can have power but the battery life is shit steam deck or rog ally x is good balance

Steam deck is amazing ps4 era and indies

[hearty hound]

x86 still has poor battery life vs arm handhelds

[vocal loom]

Oh dude. Idk if you local stream but yeah the life is insane on those if you do, as well as good battery life for emulation.

[hearty hound]

and its impossible to change

for now

[vocal loom]

Crank up the battery. The og rog ally has a battery mod now, and the ally x exists

[radiant meadow]

But steam deck is only device it can be par with arm handhelds it is crazy its only 15w

[hearty hound]

yup, that what i sayed

tuned biggger battery and steam os

[hearty hound]

nope

[radiant meadow]

Yes

[hearty hound]

that bc of steam os, and u can now install it on any

and get the same consumption but way better performance

ill show

[radiant meadow]

It's not custom apu steam deck can push lower wattages better than any x86 handhelds I do agree that rog ally x and legion go push the wattages further to get better performance

With steam os it's better

[vocal loom]

Wait a minute

[hearty hound]

custom zen not even close to real mobile chips

[vocal loom]

Gotta remind myself this doesn't matter lol

[hearty hound]

it weaker

[vocal loom]

Most those devices listed are good

[hearty hound]

this why deck that ''cheap'' 🙂

[vocal loom]

Always gotta ask myself does this matter lol

Phone dopamine and all

[hearty hound]

even 680m with right config can beat it

before steam os out i thought the same, and be wrong like u

custom apu dont give advantages in consumption

any tests can confirm that

15w on steam deck and 15w on Rog with steam os, are = or < for Rog in terms of Watts, but performance always higher has 7840hs/8840hs, bc they are not nerfed

[radiant meadow]

Okay 15w I would agree with this

100%

But lower wattages steam deck is beating that it would be crazy if steam deck had more battery life

[wintry lark]

The 556 is a fair bit bigger than the rp5 though

[radiant meadow]

I think it's amazing that we got handhelds can push high or low wattages to see which one is better

anyway back to rg557

[hearty hound]

aokzoe a1x the best (890M)

[radiant meadow]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[hearty hound]

but for 1200$

[warm wyvern]

Move to Australia 🦘

[vocal loom]

Totally, not pocketing any of these anyways lol