RG557

[radiant meadow]

I know anbernic could make ktr1 clone with d8300 that one would be killer

[fading oxide]

I mean... retroid just did it, so... come on Anbernic. You already showed up Miyoo at their own game, and it's not like the Flip 2 release has been stellar. Do your thing.

[radiant meadow]

It would be very interesting

[ruby skiff]

i mean, flip 2 release hasnt even started going public yet

bit early to judge that 😛

[silk crypt]

Having seen that 35XXSP in their exhibition show today, their green colour is the best color among of all the consoles releases imo

And just noticed the 557 is there on the billboard as well

[wide bison]

play thousands of them and only finish 10

[warm wyvern]

Green is the king of all colors , i am not suprised.
That's a pretty cool showroom, is it open to the public in China ? Would love to see it one day

This is a good base to see the performance of the 557
https://youtu.be/WVMgV0738fc?feature=shared

[silk crypt]

It was Hong Kong Global Sources Exhibition

[quaint jolt]

Any other handheld maker at the expo?

[silk crypt]

You’ll need to register as a business owner or employee to enter in

[silk crypt]

Nope, only anbernic

Others were like gaming keyboards, gaming chairs, etc

Anbernic seems to always enter their exhibitions yearly to attract business companies for export

[uncut storm]

So we went from "nice specs" to "it's worthless" already?

[ruby skiff]

you know what some in this community are like 😂

[uncut storm]

I've been learning it since I arrived, yes

[ruby skiff]

yeah the 8300 chip is useless, clearly 😅

[uncut storm]

Yeah... but seeing how there are people seeing even the steamdeck as outdated, i no longer know what to believe lol

[ruby skiff]

best to just smile, nod and stay with your own thing, perhaps offer them snacks and grow up juice 😄

[fading oxide]

Yeah, just wait for it to release and see the device action, watch showcases of games on it, and then come to your own decision. No device is perfect for everybody, and some people feel really strongly about that.

[radiant meadow]

Device like rg557 is like final boss final piece everything that anbernic learned from last year

And having a chip that offer beautiful experience the ram and storage is refresh

[ruby skiff]

nono, but it has a d8300, that's satanic didnt you hear 😛

[radiant meadow]

Lmaoooo

[pure nacelle]

Gift me one or many, I don't mind Satan. Will be happily game another day.

Let me know if you need a PO

Every ill fate retro handheld, if someone wishes to punish me with. Send it my way

[modest grotto]

Is there any hope for a 4:3 screen bigger than 4 inches for the x07V/H versions?

5 inches 4:3 would match the height of 6 inches 16:9. I think that'd be a good size

For H at least, probably too big for V

[vocal loom]

As always many people who aren't gonna buy lol

[uncut storm]

Yeah, i'd love a bigger 4:3

[molten marsh]

An RG50xx would go hard

[lapis moat]

Wow $205 is a more than fair price, I'm impressed.

[uncut storm]

But these things use whatever leftovers from other productions isn't it?

Is that final price after all?

[lapis moat]

That's what they said at the showcase above.

[uncut storm]

Ah

[real ermine]

so do we have confirmation what the cpu is? almost guaranteed the d8300?

[molten marsh]

there's no almost about it

that's what it is

[vocal loom]

It just is

[lapis moat]

Instabuy

[vocal loom]

Yeah personally it's perfect for me

[molten marsh]

I've got too much money earmarked for a switch 2 to get one but if this came out like 6 months ago I'd probably want one

[real ermine]

Wow whered this spec sheet come from

[vocal loom]

@real ermine

[real ermine]

Hopefully they put out a smaller 407h variant as well, want something smaller to bring around

[uncut storm]

Mr_davy made the photo and shared it this morning

It even comes with a screen protector, but I doubt is a glass one... right?

[vocal loom]

I've not seen any pack in protector that wasn't glass

[ionic hornet]

Glass or not, anbernics screen protectors are really good

[thick sail]

"5G SOC chip"
Does this mean it will have a sim card slot?

[real ermine]

marketing fluff just to put on even more trending words

[fathom grail]

Thanks for the spec sheet @vocal loom ! So I'm rather green on the d8300 - how does it measure up to a snapdragon or the 556?

[real ermine]

can we get this pinned as well or something

[fathom grail]

Does anyone know the cost yet? I'm trying to go through the archives on this thread and can't figure out if a price has been leaked

[vocal loom]

Should smoke the 556, snapdragon will have better compatibility for the absolute highest end emulators/things that are much rougher around the edges

[molten marsh]

estimated price is ~$205

[wary tiger]

Probably higher for international/retail

[molten marsh]

#1359106082781266044 message

[thick sail]

Power wise people were comparing it to sd888 or sd8gen1 for all intents and purposes as many x resolution as you want on ps2/gc but maybe not switch

[real ermine]

what about native android games, would snapdragon also have better compatibility?

[lapis moat]

No this will kill at native android

[wary tiger]

Comparable to 8g1/8g+1 in raw power, driver issue aside.
Though it will still be weaker in single core/thread performance due to lacking a prime X core.

[ruby skiff]

but but but it's not snapdragon and not retroid so it sucks 😄

[real ermine]

probably gonna reach customers earlier than flip 2

[molten marsh]

how much of a performance deficit is there in emulators by going with mediatek over qualcomm?

[fathom grail]

Weird time for us yanks. I read that as 'priced at 205 USD unless you live in the U.S. then the price is whatever-will-fuck-your-bank-account-the-worst'

[lapis moat]

This also has a much higher GPU than we've seen in other mali devices and 4 extra gigs of ram over the other devices in this category so we can't exactly say for certain how bad the incompatibility is really gonna hurt it

[ionic hornet]

Thought computers where exempt now

[molten marsh]

computers are, gaming devices aren't

[ionic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[molten marsh]

Gaming devices have a specific HS code (9504.50), and that's not on the exemption list

[ruby skiff]

will believe it when i see it, given how it's changed every day 😄

[real ermine]

"parcel contains: handheld computer"

[fathom grail]

For the life of me I can't figure out the generation names on snapdragon. I have a Samsung Ultra 9 tablet, love the thing, has the same proc as the Odin 2, Gen 2? But all this talk of new procs I know aren't the same, so I'm all turned around on that front. Like I know the Retroid Classic has a 'new' Gen2 dumbed down on a 4nm process

[ruby skiff]

it is entertaining to watch though

[vocal loom]

Just tell anbernic to change their name to anbernic media devices and shorten it to AMD, can't wait for my AMD 557 lol

[molten marsh]

this is probably what a lot of these smaller companies will end up doing lmao

[ionic hornet]

Pretty sure these things are more likely to be considered cell phones

[real ermine]

android phone minus cellular plus physical buttons

[fathom grail]

It changes hour to hour to be honest.

Phones seem to be exempt. If it stops there we may very well see handhelds branded as 'phones', they all have smartphone SoCs in them anyway....

[real ermine]

everything feels so volatile atm yeah

[molten marsh]

it's more like a tablet, which ARE exempt, so maybe they'd classify it as that

[ionic hornet]

And run smartphone OS

[thick sail]

Great taste, I've got the same thing. From my understanding the 557 will be mostly as good for emulation except for switch

[ruby skiff]

and in switch case, get a switch 😏 😄

[molten marsh]

I don't feel the need for switch emulation since I already have a switch lol

[vocal loom]

Really though yeah, get a switch for switch lol

[radiant meadow]

Switch 2

[molten marsh]

wow, finally, I can take my switch games on the go

[ruby skiff]

i bought a modded switch lite last summer on a whim and so happy i did 😄

[real ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[spiral sonnet]

Capacitive joysticks as in?

[fathom grail]

For 200 USD the 256GB storage ain't shabby either

[ruby skiff]

indeed. that plus 256gb sd card is a good combo for me

[molten marsh]

wow yeah I didn't catch that. That's weird wording because the steam deck has capacitive joysticks so that they know if you're touching them or not

but then the "anti-magnetic" wording makes it almost sound like hall effect???

I'm confused by this wording lol

[spiral sonnet]

@rocky nebula Bayonetta on cemu looks well on here

[fathom grail]

Tarrifs as an aside clusterfuck, I'm so excited to see this stuff get to a performance line of diminishing returns.

I have a Retroid Classic on order, looks to be quite the keeper for a 100USD vertical and I can't imagine needing a fancier set-up for a long-damn-while to play PS or below on a vertical handheld. 100USD for a chip that can probably play PS2 titles comfortably and a high res OLED screen is bonkers when you think about it.

Yeah, I'll still buy way too much shit but I think the power and screen on the low to mid end will start satisfying most needs for years going forward, rather than seeing some essential functionality (run x game well) pop up a few weeks after buying a unit

[spiral sonnet]

RP5 can do it at 2.5x

Not bad

[ruby skiff]

dminishing returns i feel we hit a while back with the odin 2 😄 but yush. Esp the portal for me

[spiral sonnet]

Then again no point going above 3x because 1440p

Ok here's one

Wonder if it'll be able to charge and video out simultaneously

And ideally bypass charge

[ivory bluff]

Pretty decent processor gpuwise.

Close to a gen 2, driver issues aside

[fathom grail]

I'll definately jump on a good 1440p OLED screen with high refresh rate. I do local and cloud streaming all the time on my 14.6 inch oled tablet and love it, but I'd like a system where I can just pick up and go. The Legion Go 2nd gen may do it for me and I do need a windows laptop for work....

[vocal loom]

Honestly the specs are wayyyyyyy better than I expected the 557 to be lol. Huge step from the 556

[spiral sonnet]

All the 8 elite needs is turnip drivers

[crude mango]

Arc pro with these specs when

[ruby skiff]

but but..... its not snapdragon 😦 😄

[crude mango]

8 elite is high enough tdp you may as well use an x86 handheld

8g3 though is even more efficient than the 8g2 while being a 40% uplift on gpu

[long chasm]

Now only thing left is to see if they fixed on screen button mapper for codm etc

[vocal loom]

Nvm actual trash

/s.

[long chasm]

looks aamazing specs insta buy

[radiant meadow]

Good competition

And I love it

[ruby skiff]

I have some concerns because ya know, anbernic be anbernic, but it looks lovely on paper

interested to see reviews on this 😄

[crude mango]

Imma wait to see how anbernic’s A14 rom is/if we get gammaOS but this looks great

Would prefer an arc 2 with this chipset and the 406 screen tho

(With sticks this time)

[molten marsh]

I mean I'd advise everyone to wait and see reviews before jumping on this device

[ruby skiff]

plus GFN controller support on 556 is buggered up the arse, so i want to know how it is with 557

[ruby skiff]

ya know, good advice for everything 🙂

[ivory bluff]

Cpu wise is a better gen 1+ but no by much. Pretty much has the same power efficiency curve as the gen 1+

[radiant meadow]

I have no doubt that gamma can do this

[wintry lark]

D8300 Rg Oled Cube

[radiant meadow]

D8300 rg 407m with ktr1 screen

[wintry lark]

Peak

[radiant meadow]

That one would make gamma cry for joy

[warm wyvern]

Nah Nintendo is for emulation

[wary tiger]

I think you mixed up 8 elite ("8g4") and elite X

[warm wyvern]

It's a Poco X6 Pro with a controller with active cooling.
Upscaled CG / Wii and some PS2 will be able to be upscaled too.
If you're fine with that then that's the device to get = good controls and OLED

If you want more Switch / Winlator then get a SD

[regal quail]

Yup, same advice I’d give for RP Flip 2 as well. At the very least though, it looks like Anbernic is finally stepping up and locking in somewhat, although I’m still not getting anything from them unless it’s a budget handheld like 2-3 months after said budget handheld released (so hopefully once they do their usual silent revision).

[ruby skiff]

so much for the 'i will never get anything from anbernic again' 😄

[rocky nebula]

Why?

[regal quail]

No, I already said I’d only get budget stuff way after release.

[rocky nebula]

you guys said that about the 556 and nothing bad happened short of us giving Zu and Stubbs more stuff to test

[wary tiger]

Anbernic stuff tends to drop faster in price as well, so getting it a few months later in the next XX sale is a decent choice

[radiant meadow]

Ptsd from more than 4 broken devices

[molten marsh]

they're not likely to sell out, it's best to hold off a couple of weeks and see if there's anything that's dealbreaking from a review

in all likelihood, it'll all be fine

but it's better to not take the risk

[ruby skiff]

Waiting on reviews is the smart decision

[rocky nebula]

Starting price will be cheapest.

[molten marsh]

these things also go on sale all the time lol

[ruby skiff]

in other news, I heard that water is a little damp 😄

[regal quail]

Yeah, and then the Cube came after that and I went through complete and utter hell with customer support, on top of the fact that people literally were pointing out issues with the 556 but everyone ignored it since “it’s not all of them, and it’s not mine”.

[wary tiger]

Their 48 hours meagre discount are usually matched/exceeded by the next sale in a couple of months

[regal quail]

And that was already after dealing with significantly worse shit than light bleed for the rg405m.

[ruby skiff]

which you probably wondered after the 405m "why did i give them my money again"

[rocky nebula]

quality control, m'dude. people still get duds to this day, and you tell them the same thing. "Send it back and get a replacement."

[warm wyvern]

That wasn't a tech flaw , the screen was removable ,it was a pioneering tech in the market. We just didn't understand

[rocky nebula]

but instead of being rational, some users will walk around flaming anbernic.
"okay dude. you're choosing not to fix your problems. tough luck."

[silk crypt]

I remember my uncle’s 405M screen came off from the left side because of their weak glue

[radiant meadow]

To be honest I knew anbernic rushed that rgcube to beat zpg unicorn

Which its still funniest until this day

[regal quail]

Yeah, I already know their quality control is just as shit with expensive handhelds as it was with budget, and budget was the only tier where that shit quality control was ok for me.

I’m not even joking when I say the only reason I even felt comfortable enough to get it was because someone directly swore that their customer support was a lot better and that “my current comments were not true nowadays”.

[wary tiger]

And they succeeded, didn't zpg go out of business or something after the unicorn got sniped.

[regal quail]

That last part was a total fucking lie.

[ruby skiff]

careful with that narrative around some people 😄

[regal quail]

Oh, so it’s legitimate criticism when we do it to Retroid then, but flaming when we do it to Anbernic.

[warm wyvern]

Anbernic rushed it to beat zpg
Retroid rushed the flip2 so we can forget the mini
Anbernic rushes the 557 to compete with Retroid

[rocky nebula]

it still is flaming with Retroid. You haven't been to the side of the net where people swear to never touch retroid because like... their emmc corrupted on day one

[regal quail]

No, they rush the 557’s announcement to sell before tariffs.

[rocky nebula]

"my device is boot-looping." how many times have we seen that on any android handheld and people ignore that person until they leave chat?

especially the gammaOS brickers

[ruby skiff]

"It began, with the forging of the great RPminis"

[rocky nebula]

lol

[warm wyvern]

"It's not mine , i don't care , prob won't happen to me "

• happens *

[regal quail]

No I have, and when it’s a repeat situation for them with that company, I hold nothing against them because it’s understandable.

I’m not gonna yell at people to not buy the thing if they’re interested, I’m just not interested anymore.

[rocky nebula]

fair enough

[radiant meadow]

Okay okay before It's get even worse we glad we got competition both side valid less issues more gaming and enjoyment

Sounds like great zu

[warm wyvern]

That is 100%
At the end of the day it's just fun with games
We should enjoy it and not take it that serious tbh

[vocal loom]

Is any of this worth it on a sunny Saturday day

[radiant meadow]

Not really I'm excited for rg557

[vocal loom]

Let's goooooooooo

[ruby skiff]

it is beautiful here today, getting chinese takeout in a bit

then I'll prob play modded cyberpunk 😄

[radiant meadow]

Ooòooooooo what did you get

[rocky nebula]

I just want to see some randos prepurchase it for cheap and talk about what it can and can't play or if it just explodes on delivery

[ruby skiff]

crispy chicken black bean with chips and noodles 😋

[radiant meadow]

SERIOUS FOOD

[warm wyvern]

My sister is leaving hospital tomorrow guys , i will play MK duble dash with her tomorrow.
Today is a good day

[regal quail]

In all honesty, the only reason I still talk about it is because of how often people were using the current Retroid situation to pull some revisionism bs in claiming Anbernic is better.

As long as people are acknowledging that Anbernic has their own fair share of issues (and apparently even they themselves have directly lied in advertising? I’m still not completely sure on what happened with the Win600 and I’m not gonna completely assume what happened until I can get good enough verification), and we aren’t getting people just doing some really dumb stuff like “definitely recommend buying Anbernic day 1, they never have issues” to legit newcomers, I’m actually legit fine.

[vocal loom]

No one should preorder any of these

But for 557 I will

Me personally

[rocky nebula]

the win600 is a modded chromebook strapped to a drone battery timebomb. if that's your jam, you bought it.

[regal quail]

Exactly. If you do, it’s because you’re willing to take the risk of first batch/revision issues. No one should be expecting something to be perfect.

[atomic lichen]

iusr want Arc07 with 406h screen

[warm wyvern]

Chad Anbernic doesn't do preorders , virgin retroid does it

[vocal loom]

Dude 556 was genuinely near perfect for me. A literal close to 10/10. If 557 doesn't have some insane shit, it should be 10/10, to me it's a near lock in

[radiant meadow]

Win600 has issues when it comes to performance hell the emulation was so bad it turned taki scream on camera 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[vocal loom]

Nah lol I like retroid devices enough but they definitely aren't gonna get me ordering their shit till welllllllll after launch

[regal quail]

Yup, can agree with that, with the only reason I just ordered the Flip 2 being…pretty much the same as yours for getting the 557.

[rocky nebula]

my deep dive into the win600 only revealed that windows was the problem(and it was a fixable problem), and linux delivered superior emulation to the AYn Odin 1, which it was competing with, but created a learning curve not suitable for people in this camp.

[vocal loom]

I mean kind of

To me the 557 is more of a sure bet

Like idk I would've likely always bought early

[rocky nebula]

like.... if you're a pc gamer, you know how to make a win600/loki-zero/ayaneo-next-lite work. your whole mantra is 'mod it till it breaks.'

retrogamers? nah. if it don't work on arrival, it's broken

[radiant meadow]

Yes putting bactorea saved win600 but the damage was done with price and review

[vocal loom]

Oh bro just slap on bazzite and it fixes EVERYTHING

/s.

[rocky nebula]

eh.... bazzitebros

more power to them? they show up and claim superiority then go back to playing whatever they found on ProtonDB

[crude mango]

no the 8 elite is like 18 watts max

not the x elite that's like 45

but the deck apu is 15

s8g3 is 11

way more efficient than the s8 elite

[rocky nebula]

rg557 is going to be a healthy amount of the same jank the rg556 was, but with more horsepower to stumble on.

[crude mango]

s8g3 uses less power than s8g2, s8 elite uses more.

I'd love to see a modern win600, but I guess that's basically just the steam deck.

[long chasm]

I have a feeling we’re going to see a refresh of the 405M this year

[crude mango]

I doubt anbernic could make an x86 device small enough/low wattage enough/cheap enough to offer a good value prop

[wintry lark]

Eh I dont tbh

[radiant meadow]

I think they wouldn't never do it again after what happened with win600

[long chasm]

We’ll see!

[wintry lark]

Anbernic doesn't seem to want to make metal handhelds anymore

[crude mango]

I don't think the d8300 could be passively cooled

[long chasm]

Ah well the non metallic wouldn’t bother me just that small form factor but powerful a alternative to pocket mini

[rocky nebula]

if anbernic cloned the NExt Lite, but threw in a low wattage 64eu 12th gen intel that runs cyberpunk smoothly at 15w... that would be nice.

[crude mango]

yeah I'd like to see anbernic make a high end pocketable handheld.

[rocky nebula]

won't happen though. too reasonable. also redditbros would flame it into submission for not being the ROg Ally Beater

[crude mango]

407sp?

[wintry lark]

I would like to see them move away from the integrated grip humps

Etsy always has grips if I need one

[uncut storm]

It's great having to pay more later to end with the same i guess

[crude mango]

I mean I'd say I just don't need the grips

[wintry lark]

More like not getting the option to pocket it

[rocky nebula]

the benefit just isn't there

(neat the entire handheld is a heatsink) hot hands

[crude mango]

I think the 405m was just in the sweet spot where it helped them passively cool a t618 that would've needed vents and/or a fan if they made the same handheld plastic

since they put a fan in the 405v

[rocky nebula]

that fan is useless.

i can 100% say all it does is nuke up the battery life. my 405v is a little sassy bitch even on a good day.

[wary tiger]

8 elite can use to 18w max, but I have not seen a single review showing it being less power efficient than either 8g3 or it's competition 9400 from mediatek. It handily beats all at all wattage points from 1+/2w onwards

[rocky nebula]

didn't Phawx review that and verify it used as much power as x86 and was still like... not even 75% as powerful?

[wary tiger]

That's the elite x laptops, not the 8 elite in phones

[rocky nebula]

ah... the big brother

[wary tiger]

The naming sucks as usual

[crude mango]

yeah the x elite laptops were a complete dud

[rocky nebula]

i was impressed that it ran cyberpunk even if not well

FSR fixes a lot of things

[crude mango]

trying to be basically apple silicon for windows and wound up just being another windows arm disaster

[wintry lark]

Here's hoping the x2 elite is better

https://tenor.com/view/knocking-james-ferrier-signals-youtube-banging-the-wood-gif-23606598

[south arrow]

i use an x plus laptop. for cpu loads it's 30-40% more powerful on battery than similarly priced x86. about the same on ac power. obv sucks at gpu work.

[wary tiger]

I don't find elite x a dud, it's just the x86 emulation penalty (not as good as Rosetta) plus Adreno being worse than Radeon due to being inherently weaker, and less work put in by both Qualcomm (drivers) and game developers (whose games were never develop with adreno in mind or any testing done on them).

[south arrow]

i don't regret it at all because it's about the only windows laptop under $1000 that has a haptic trackpad

[wary tiger]

From the short time I have using one, elite x/windows on arm >>>> portmaster > winlator when it comes to PC gaming experience

[rocky nebula]

i missed out on Odin 1 + ARM Windows.

seemed charming playing the 32-bt catelogue

[crude mango]

it burns the same wattage as an AMD x86 apu

so what's the point

apple silicon didn't succeed because it's arm, it succeeded because its perf/watt is miles beyond any x86 laptop chip

[rocky nebula]

still surprised nobody else but ayn released a windows/arm compatible device running on sd845 especially after the price drop

[dawn jay]

556 was my every day handheld until I pivoted to the Odin 2 Mini for a hard to run PS2 rpgotq. If the 557 fixes sticks and beefs up the PS2/GC, I might solo with it

[ruby skiff]

i still love my 556 and i own a portal 😄

[rocky nebula]

taking mine to work today to play more SAO: Hollow Realization over break

[dawn jay]

The Odin 2 Mini sits in a super convenient niche for me. Endgame-tier power and small enough to tuck into my work bag

[wary tiger]

Still need to start somewhere, apple can force developers to shift to arm but Qualcomm can't.
I don't recommend anyone to rush out to buy a elite x laptop, especially at the current price, need a price drop.
But still looking forward to future iteration for windows on arm including the rumored mediatek/Nvidia collaboration.

[crude mango]

I'm not even talking about software support

[atomic lichen]

btw how big was 556 compared to Odin2?

[crude mango]

even running arm native software the snapdragon X is shit compared to apple silicon

it matches an m3 by burning twice the watts

meanwhile apple's already on the m4

[south arrow]

obv apple is far ahead. but snapdragon already did good by not dropping 50% performance as soon as you unplug

[crude mango]

at this point I trust AMD to switch to arm more than I trust phone chip makers to magically make a good PC chip

[vocal loom]

It's just a smidge smaller but that's somewhat not fully accurate. It's not a full device, it just has big spots in certain areas. Idk how to put that without you having something similar to both

[lapis moat]

Almost the same

[atomic lichen]

hmmm interesting

[crude mango]

a little smaller and with a scoop out of the bottom

[atomic lichen]

i love my Odin 2 ... but Portal is too big 😄

[wintry lark]

Yet another reason we need the Odin 2 Portal flip

[vocal loom]

It takes up room cause it's ergonomic maxed, but like, personally it felt lightweight and was super worth it

[atomic lichen]

but i guess i would need snapdragon for better driver support to replace my O2 with some oled device

[lapis moat]

It's 90g lighter than the odin2, for further reference

[rocky nebula]

a friend of mine has the odin 2. he swears that it made everything but his rg351p useless

mainly because he still plays gba and old stuff on it

[atomic lichen]

i kinda reached the point in my collection that i only need "Arc Pro" and the double dpad monstrosity from magicX for gba

• maybe successor to Powdaddy A13 better chip

[rocky nebula]

ew...

[south arrow]

arc pro with the 34xx or 406h screen and analog sticks 🤤

[rocky nebula]

what was that vertical powkiddy handheld with the s905x3 inside?

[atomic lichen]

and d8300 would be perfect for all sega

including bettlecore

[ionic hornet]

Arc pro with RP mini screen???

4:3 OLED???

[atomic lichen]

i love my arc ... its just if it could do all saturn and dreamcast it would be perfect

[rocky nebula]

oh wow. the A20 is completely canceled. i had fond memories of that one. hypershitty OS but could play all of n64, psp, dc, and saturn

[wintry lark]

What we really need is the surface duo screen

I bet it's hard to source though

[crude mango]

a portable arcade clamshell with a 3588 would be so peak

[crude mango]

the rp mini screen isn't a 4:3 oled...

it's just the ayaneo dmg screen with part of the display hidden

[rocky nebula]

3588.... eh... it's too late for that

[crude mango]

fine, n150 a13

[atomic lichen]

iwouldnt need that high 😄

A13 has RK3128

[rocky nebula]

Remember the OHWOW?

[atomic lichen]

thats way too low for lots of arcades

[crude mango]

tbf the a13 is laptop sized

I'm basically just asking for a chuwi minibook X but with a leverless arcade controller instead of a keyboard

[rocky nebula]

there's enough arcade kits running off of odroid boards, you could probably scrape something together

[long chasm]

Is the picture of the specs pinned? Idk how to check on mobile

[vocal loom]

No

Here

[lunar gorge]

On mobile, you tap on the post name, then select Settings, then Pinned Messages. Discord loves being user friendly 🙂

[vocal loom]

@dawn jay can you pin this

And this

Actually probably just the sheet is needed

[dawn jay]

Pin deez

[vocal loom]

Thanks bofa

[tight cape]

saw the Nittrx post and I was like "oh hey he posted something useful finally"

and then I see that he literally took it from this discord

[ionic hornet]

It was a joke

[crude mango]

good updog tbh

[quaint jolt]

He's gonna see this message as well 😅

[tight cape]

oh that's right

hey Nittrx, you suck, credit people when you take stuff from them

[lapis moat]

Ppl still pay attention to them?

[tight cape]

ocasionally he reposts content from chinese bilibili creators that doesn't otherwise surface to us that easily so he provides a minimal amount of value that way

but he still sucks nevertheless

[lapis moat]

I feel like the only time I see their name is either being days late and trying to take credit or posting some terrible self-made photoshop pic and trying to pass it as a real leak

[tight cape]

yeah he has a tendency to post dumb shit

his success rate is something like 10% at best

[warped prairie]

Whats the difference between this and the 556? Looks the same, same screen. Is it just a new chip?

[humble dust]

new chip, wifi stuff corrected and real precise analog sticks

[uncut storm]

much bigger storage too

more ram

[radiant meadow]

And it's white

And purple

[placid condor]

Speaking of sticks, is it confirmed whether the sticks are going to be the same as the ones in the 406V and H or will they be an entirely new stick design? I love the sticks on my 406V, they're absolutely awesome in terms of precision and range of motion, though they are super tiny and I feel like people are gonna complain about their small size on a device where they're the primary control inputs. They're just fine on the 406V since the D-pad is the primary input there and the sticks are secondary, but on an analog stick focused device they're definitely gonna feel too small for some folks' liking.

[uncut storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359106082781266044/1360477343021535273/IMG_8760.jpg?ex=67fbeb83&is=67fa9a03&hm=09a80315e15137f2fd62645c9d833f93e1b711bdd31e899725008cc25c16bafb&

no idea about the joysticks sorry

the person that tried them said they were much better than the 556 ones, that's it for now

[humble dust]

they must be

those will be real analog sticks

[uncut storm]

yeah, I saw that the 556 were by far the weakest part of that system

or at least that was the feelings quite a few people had

of course

[humble dust]

they realy are

[vocal loom]

??????

[tribal meadow]

Yep. Only downside is they were too cheap to buy white padding tape for the screen, so you can see the black tape bleeding through the white paper.

[stark cape]

@lucid rose

Llakard sent something kinda weird

This is one of two messages he's ever sent in this server AFAIK

For one of them to be a GoFundMe is extremely suspect

[next folio]

Anything about unlocked bootloader/linux support?

[lapis moat]

Why would Anbernic share how to unlock their bootloader at a media conference lmao

If it ever does come that would very far down the line with someone like Gamma figuring it out

[next folio]

Not share "how to" but if it is

This would kill as a rocknix machine

[crude mango]

There is no linux support for this chip

GammaOS would be sick tho

[thick sail]

Didn't even know we could do this, I should really learn how to use discord someday
Just search from:username if anyone else is curious/clueless as me

[warped prairie]

@worthy gazelle

[alpine bronze]

27W!

https://tenor.com/view/ashtonthwaites-ashtonstutter-gif-25704793

[vocal loom]

Bro when I saw the specs I came. I came inside the 557

[lapis moat]

Pardon

[ionic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-22320613

[wintry lark]

I'm anberniccing it, I'm anberniccing it so hard right now

[ionic hornet]

Live footage of superbottle seeing 557 specs

[alpine bronze]

The 557 goon cave

[vocal loom]

Ok I gotta stop bullshitting lol

[narrow eagle]

idk you have been in withdrawals over the 556 for months

😭

[vocal loom]

Upgrade

It's time

[narrow eagle]

maybe one of the 400 jobs i applied to in the last month will get back to me

[supple anchor]

Release date when

[warm wyvern]

We have to laminate the curriculum and give the manager a strong handshake so we can get hired

[narrow eagle]

no they shoot you if you dare to ask

[warm wyvern]

Because you're not speaking to the boss directly and is not pulling yourself by the bootstraps

[lapis moat]

Wouldn't expect a direct announcement from em before Monday the earliest imo

[warm wyvern]

The second video is already uploaded , i'd say in a week or 2 it will be on Aliexpress

[fickle belfry]

So just read the specs ... the 12GB/256GB is actually quite nice if you're looking to run Android games. RG557 should be the first Anbernic that can do Zenless at 60FPS. It's a shame the screen is probably 60Hz, though. But if it's indeed $200-ish that's not a deal killer at the moment.

[tight cape]

I'm guessing they'll be sending review units next week going by usual Anbernic timing

[fickle belfry]

They just need to sell me one and I'll review it. 🙃

[simple bridge]

okay but who in their right mind actually wants a $400+ 557

i was so excited and now i dont care anymore

[vocal loom]

Where are you getting 400+

[crude mango]

yeah this is like $205

[supple anchor]

200 too much

[vocal loom]

Disagree, feels about right

[supple anchor]

nope too much

[vocal loom]

Dam checked with the board and your wrong

[supple anchor]

uncle doggo a cheap asian doggo

[supple anchor]

the board will think its too cheap

and make it 250

[vocal loom]

Lol but yeah to me that price is fine.

[supple anchor]

we know what hchip in this?

and how it compares to 8 gen2

[simple bridge]

Sorry, meant the tariff boosted price, 200-225 is super reasonable.

What I mean is how INSANE they’ll go up with tariffs and what not

Like seriously what’s the point anymore, it’s driving me nuts

[vocal loom]

Oh so basically it may or may not get exempt, who fucking knows at this point, but I'm personally hoping they drop this week as that should be just enough time

After that yeah we have to monitor what the flavor of the day is for tariffs

[simple bridge]

very cool.. unless you’re me who won’t have enough money for a good while

[vocal loom]

Sorry bro, but honestly probably better to just save nowadays anyways

So much uncertainty

[crude mango]

the point is that the USA isn't the only country on earth and eventually they'll come to their senses anyway

[simple bridge]

you are right, yeah. not that i dont save, but im still young- relatively speaking, sooo yup

[simple bridge]

dude our current president is fucking insane

[crude mango]

its the d8300, I think it's a bit weaker than the 8g2 and a mali gpu so no turnip drivers, but also probably half the price of any s8g2 handheld with equal ram and storage

[supple anchor]

i duno what you on about, hes the definition of getting a job with no experience

[crude mango]

compared to the sd865 you're looking at a solid 30% cpu boost and a whopping 150% gpu boost

[supple anchor]

then coming back to do the same thing

[supple anchor]

ewwww mali

[supple anchor]

(odin2)

[wintry lark]

The solution is to save for the tone35

[vocal loom]

Ram 12gb storage 256 so that's pretty cash

Even if people hate it's not SD, it's still a really strong chip so it's nice to see appropriate ram and storage

[simple bridge]

that’ll beat the 4 pro by a LOT, mali isnt even an issue when winlator and switch arent a necessity for me, damn this is so good

[supple anchor]

and thats nwhy i said its too expensive

[crude mango]

it's like RP5 price with 'odin 2 pro but mali' specs

sounds good to me

[supple anchor]

(dont mind me im trying desperately to tell myself i dont need this)

[crude mango]

and better ergo than either

[vocal loom]

Lol I'm all in barring tariff issues

[simple bridge]

it is not, you’re getting an soc stronger than the RP5

[supple anchor]

Odin 2

[crude mango]

anbernic + new chip = who the hell knows what the firmware is like so I definitely am not gonna be a day 1 buyer

[crude mango]

to get decent ergo and 12gb of ram from ayn you're paying 400 USD

[vocal loom]

Tbf I don't think this device is for you like at all lol

[crude mango]

yeah it's overkill for me tbh

hoping for an arc pro based on this platform though

[supple anchor]

Oled, good sticks

[simple bridge]

I’d argue the line of T820s was way less rough than the T618s, It’ll be fine I’m sure

[supple anchor]

psv on it

i like it

but too expensive

[wintry lark]

The 256 gb of storage is nice, don't know why ayn is still trying to make 128gb the base, especially for a high end device

[simple bridge]

Wait is the screen oled..? Yuck.

[crude mango]

that's true. I still prefer gammaOS on the 405v over stock on the 406v, but once gamma drops for the 406 I'm going to be over the moon

the t820 is enough power for almost everything I care about emulating (wish it could do beetle saturn but it is what it is)

[thick sail]

oled is bad?

[crude mango]

some people are sensitive to PWM dimming and/or paranoid about burn in

[simple bridge]

T820 is an s tier chip in the world of handhelds so yeah you’re right

I really have no problems with it, nearly every handheld with said chip is good

“B-but the rg cube”

no.

that was good stuff

[crude mango]

I wish they'd made a pocketable t820

like 40xxH but t820

obviously a little thicker for thermals but that would just mean the shoulder bumps wouldn't be as pronounced

[wintry lark]

It was a good start, just need a more powerful one

[simple bridge]

I don’t have a T820, but out of all them the 556 was my favorite and the 406v is a very close second.

If you have either of them you’re pretty much set for life

[crude mango]

I just wish the cube and 556 had the same sticks as the 406v/h

[vocal loom]

Dude if they did basically there would be very little upgrading

It was nearly a perfect chip for many forms. Jusssstttttt a little underpowered

[simple bridge]

I do have a 405v that collects dust though, really don’t know what to do with that anymore but it’s definitely not ewaste.. only problem is that the 406v is better in every way (except for not having sweet gammaOS)

[simple bridge]

I mean I think it was good enough, but it could’ve been better in some ways yeah. Starting to look like the 557 is going to be one of the best handhelds of this year

[silk sable]

I'd rather have a good IPS than a mediocre OLED tbh.

Although I'm not sure how good or bad the OLED for this will be.

[simple bridge]

good oled or bad oled, just me personally, im not a fan

but i will admit oled looks beautiful

[warm wyvern]

I don't mind it tbh , better to have an Oled than don't but some IPS screens are fine

[crude mango]

my other 406v complaint is no wood grain

[crude mango]

this is true

the RP5 oled is mid

my best screen is my ipad tandem oled, then my macbook pro miniLED, then my y700 LCD, then my ally X LCD, then the RP5 oled, then my LCD retro handhelds.

[simple bridge]

i love wood grain handhelds, but i will never buy one unless im ready for an entire collection of them

only reason my 405v isnt wood grain is because some grain is inconsistent and could end up looking very bad

from what ive seen

[warm wyvern]

I am pretty sure it's a Poco x6 Pro with a controller, i only messed with that phone once and the screen was decent

[warm wyvern]

Gameboy 405V was awesome imo
I don't have one but it would be nice if they brought that color back for the 407V

[supple anchor]

dont they ahve one?

[wintry lark]

Not really as pocketable

[crude mango]

nah, 406h is more like a 4:3 cube

big grips, sticks aren't recessed

[supple anchor]

fair enough

[prisma seal]

[signal cedar]

https://youtu.be/rX0bdWK6dOg

[vocal loom]

I'll watch any 557 content

[silk crypt]

A short video that one of my colleagues filmed yesterday for the 557

Pretty much all of the info that I have for the 557

[wintry lark]

Win600 Cameo

[analog fjord]

Odd of this chip being on the rg407 line??

[ionic hornet]

very likely

[analog fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sweet-hell-yes-pump-it-gif-2609956353695275627

[crude mango]

This being on the 557 means anything ending in 7 gets it

[vocal loom]

How did sticks feel if either of you had to guess

Better than 556?

[rocky nebula]

You know what's a good benchmark for this?

Monster Hunter Generations for 3ds in Citra.

runs like dogshit on the 556, so you have to use Azahar with the right eye disabled

[silk crypt]

Never had 556, I only had 405v & 406v.
But it does feels slightly better than 406v

[vocal loom]

Hell yea

[silk crypt]

As 406v sticks are taller

They probably have fixed the sticks on the 557 as they have on the 406v

[rocky nebula]

another good benchmark is Dragon's Dogma. runs nice and clean on the 556, but it struggles between 15 and 20fps

[ionic hornet]

Switch or winlator

[rocky nebula]

switch. last time i tried it was in Uzuy

i had skyrim running smooth and was able to raid bandit camps, but the game would always hit the system ram limit and hard-crash. 557 should be able to handle it with my 3dsRim mod

[wintry lark]

I imagine mh4u doesn't run very well either then

[ionic hornet]

MH4U struggles on the Odin 2

At 1080p at least

[rocky nebula]

mh4u struggles -even- in azahar

[wintry lark]

I think that's because of the stereoscopic 3d always being on, you have to use the cheat to force it off

[ionic hornet]

MH4U emulation is just rough in general

[rocky nebula]

you need a strong desktop pc or x86 handheld to emulate it

[ionic hornet]

Even with the stereo cheat

[rocky nebula]

i'm gonna do a stream tonight of MHG running on the 556. i got it looking quite pretty over break at work

[uncut storm]

You mean on phones/retro handhelds right? Because I tried mh4u on my mini pc and ran fine

[ionic hornet]

Yeah

[rocky nebula]

yeah, it takes a lot of power

[wintry lark]

I haven't done the most extensive testing, but I was able to get 3x at a relatively consistent 60 fps on my 855 phone with Asychronous shaders, forced stereo off, and turnip drivers using azahar

[ionic hornet]

If you’re not constrained by power it’s not an issue yeah

[rocky nebula]

it's like Killzone for ps2

[uncut storm]

Ah, ok. I have never tried 3ds on phone chips or alike

[rocky nebula]

kills most arm handhelds, but runs fine on pc

[uncut storm]

Weird that is mh4u and not 3u

That one targets 3000 fps lol

[ionic hornet]

Yeah…

Wonder how it runs in cemu

[rocky nebula]

good question.

[ionic hornet]

And if there’s any input delay fixes

[rocky nebula]

one day i'll finish going down the cemu compatibility list. just can't be bothered

Fast Racing Neo runs on literally anything t820 and up

[uncut storm]

So, are the feelings for the 557 a bit more optimistic today?

[ionic hornet]

Man I really want the 557 but also the flip 2

Might just get both and sell the loser

[rocky nebula]

cpu is great. mali gpu is hahaha-war-never-changes

[uncut storm]

Me too, and having to wait and see which is better for me kinda annoys me.

[wintry lark]

Is it just a compatibility thing then? At least on geekbench the t820 seems on par with the 855

[ionic hornet]

I like the flip 2 form factor, but the 557 is stronger

[rocky nebula]

I can tell you three games that are too slow on the rg556 but should be fine on the 557.

• Bayonetta
• Dragon's Dogma
• Shining Resonance Refrain

[warm wyvern]

Win700 confirmed

[vocal loom]

The only gcn (not counting star wars) I couldn't get right on the 556 was metal arms. No one talks about that one. But overall the t820 is REALLY underrated

[wintry lark]

Z1e win700 🤞

[ionic hornet]

T820 struggled with BGDA too

[regal quail]

Unless they just said otherwise, the $205 was just their planned msrp for domestic being converted to USD.

[crystal sparrow]

Transparent purple looking nice there..imo they should do a matching white bezel for the white model like this

[vocal loom]

Yeah never played but I'll take your word for it

[warm wyvern]

Try the Switch version

[vocal loom]

Either way 557 should be fucking tiiiiigggghhhhhtttttt

[warm wyvern]

I've been saying this since that white 406H came out
White console = white bezel otherwise it looks off

[silk crypt]

It’s purple but it looks very black for me

At first glance in the exhibition show I thought it was transparent black

[alpine bronze]

Ngl that kid icarus joke was kinda weird

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/sosyourface-gif-6080023

[alpine bronze]

Not really a funny haha but aight

[fading oxide]

So I wasn't the only one! Yeah it's so dull, out of all their tranparents, really sad they went with this one. Hopefully the Cube/H/V version gets one of the better transparents, the ones the SP has and the 556 blue were great.

[silk crypt]

Kinda reminds me of iPhones
The cheaper models gets better colors whilst the Pro models gets bland colors

[uncut storm]

I think i'd still prefer that over a full white/black one

[ionic hornet]

I really hope they do better colors on launch

[uncut storm]

do they expand on colors after announcement?

[ionic hornet]

They have before

[silk crypt]

Probably not on this batch release, as the spec sheet only says two colors

I would consider upgrading mine if they’d release a green one

[tight cape]

only for cheap releases that turn out very successful and never for their expensive (>$100) handhelds

so basically, don't expect it

[uncut storm]

I see, haha, I'd be fine with the purple one anyway

not like i'm going to pay much attention to it after a while if I disliked it or something

[atomic lichen]

🙏🏿

[atomic lichen]

and having sweet woodgrain

[crude mango]

imagine they had done woodgrain for the 557

[rocky nebula]

it has 128gb of internal space. you could just dedicate it to android titles.

[crude mango]

how many android titles are good in 480p 4:3

[rocky nebula]

that's a really wide-spectrum 'burden of proof' question to ask. I'll give you 10:

• original gta trilogy releases
• death road to canada
• don't starve
• Polyfield
• CoD Mobile
• Monument Valley series

[regal quail]

Depends on how many games ditched low res fonts to only have higher res ones.

[rocky nebula]

you can go down the rest of the list on your own time

[simple bridge]

G -Nintendo
C - Game
N - Cube

[timid elk]

Gintendo Came Nube

Gintama's Camera Nub

[uncut storm]

GCN is the way nintendo adresses it on serial numbers, just like the GBA is AGB. It's amusing

[simple bridge]

I’ll give you that because you’re definitely right, and still capable emulation wise too so yeah not ewaste

[simple bridge]

you don’t see people call GBA AGB tho

[uncut storm]

nope, you don't, but GCN is easier to spot than AGB I suppose

[simple bridge]

you mean when it comes to the amount of people who say GCN in comparison to AGB? If so, yeah.

Search GCN and NGC in the server, and you probably won’t be surprised by how many more people have said GCN than NGC.

[uncut storm]

yeah that's why I said it. I always use NGC, or simply GC, but GCN by being molded into the console, accessories and such I guess it stuck in a way that AGB did not lol

it doesn't happen with any other system though

the other one I'd argue is the original game boy and DMG, but that's mostly for when there's an attempt to imitate the screen or something like that

if the idea behind the RG557 is to be released before the end of the month I hope we can get a few reviews by then to see how it performs

[simple bridge]

honestly i just hope this tariff thing blows over, the 557 looks super promising and even with 90 day pause stuff n whatnot, it might not be enough, so ill just have to hope

[uncut storm]

Well, I am from europe so I don't know how things will be going here either...

[simple bridge]

good luck to you then, and of course everyone else

[uncut storm]

yeah, I hope people on the US don't get slapped by tariffs either

[soft harness]

Specs near to RG557. NSF U II on PS2 scale x4 and Aniso x16 aspect 4:3 , smooth.

[simple bridge]

i mean technically true

[vocal loom]

I meant it

That is a solid sticker though lol

[vocal loom]

It's DOL

Nintendo did abbreviate the full name as gcn though

[uncut storm]

yeah I got it confused, dolphin was its development name

[simple bridge]

abbreviate it like that for who knows why

[uncut storm]

So based on the screenshots above, and some videos, people use Need For Speed Underground II as some sort of benchmark?

[humble dust]

https://tenor.com/view/xddd-gif-7987209062233679942

[uncut storm]

That guy can get slapped for all I care though

[humble dust]

he's very unpredictacle insn't he?

[lapis moat]

Very predictable actually. Whatever the right choice for any situation is, he does the opposite.

[alpine bronze]

A carbon fiber shell would be cool

Companies seem to never do that anymore tho

[simple bridge]

yea

[ionic hornet]

i think my tax return money is gonna go towards a 557

[wintry lark]

Real

[quaint jolt]

Good thing you aren't in the US. I'm scared to order anything because who knows when Trump will change his mind. Computers were exempt, now they aren't.

[south arrow]

they are for a while, until they announce the semiconductor tariffs

[ionic hornet]

as long as those aren't walked back again

[vocal loom]

Dawg

Realistically this shit is gonna change by tomorrow or Tuesday lol

I'm done lol, I'll just check back when I'm ready to order

[ionic hornet]

that's generous

it'll probably change before i wake up

[vocal loom]

In any case lol no need for me to keep up with it anymore

[light pewter]

Are they making this in black? I just see 2 colors in the blogpost of Retro Handhelds.
Would drift to the RG556 if they don't.

[grave mauve]

sorry will RG557 be a good combo device, if I already have a RG 40xx V?
looking to play some wii and switch games hopefully, or just wait for reviews first? thank you!

[narrow eagle]

sadly no

[wide bison]

yes if you like playing gc and ps2 using widescreen upscalling, wii emulation will be decent but you wont get more for switch emulation on mali gpu
might as well wait for reviews someone will make switch emulation test on 557 if some games run great or not

[uncut storm]

So if you don't care about switch, will this be an upgrade from the rp5?

I imagine 8-32 bit systems will work well, right?

[ionic hornet]

Yes

[lapis moat]

Basically everything but switch will be better

[uncut storm]

Fabulous

Let's hope it's solid all around

[wintry lark]

3ds emulation is about to be crazy

[uncut storm]

While I was looking at the flip 2 if this is solid at a similar price I'll get this. I can still use my n2ds as a more portable thing if I needed

3ds? Will be a good performance jump with this? That's also cool

[lapis moat]

3ds already ran at 3x/4x on rp5 so doesn't matter there

[ionic hornet]

This will most likely be stronger and cheaper

A product of not needing to pay the SD tax

[wintry lark]

Should be a noticeable improvement especially combined with azahar

[ionic hornet]

Azahar 🤮

[uncut storm]

I barely tested azahar, but on pc, so I don't know how it is 3ds on android

[ionic hornet]

Imagine not supporting 3DS files

[wintry lark]

The devs might be squares but it's probably going to be the best emulator for 3ds so

[uncut storm]

Oh by the way, this thing I read on an article it could also dual boot right?

[lapis moat]

Been no indication of that

Wouldnt count on it

[rocky nebula]

what article written by who

[ionic hornet]

They’re doing shit literally nobody wants

[wintry lark]

Should provide more stable performance though

[rocky nebula]

show us this thing you call proof if it isn't just hearsay

[wintry lark]

Improving performance?

[ionic hornet]

Removing features

Lime runs shit perfectly fine

Hell even citra is still fine

[rocky nebula]

"nobody wants"

[wintry lark]

What features

[ionic hornet]

3DS file support

[wintry lark]

Is that it

[rocky nebula]

just rename you files to cci, bro

[ionic hornet]

How about no bro

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[uncut storm]

It wasn't in english

[lapis moat]

Who cares what the files are called if they play perfectly move on

[wintry lark]

Why is this the hill you die on

[rocky nebula]

well, good fucking luck then. you get no games to play

[ionic hornet]

Azahar cares what the files are called apparently

[rocky nebula]

some devs are weird like this.

[lapis moat]

That's what im saying, if they want one file, just give it that and play the game

Who cares

[ionic hornet]

Cuz I’m not going through my entire library and renaming just for one emulator

[wintry lark]

I'm sure there's an easier way than doing it manually one by one

[rocky nebula]

but cci extension also works in lime and citra

[ionic hornet]

I’ll save my time and stick with lime

[ionic hornet]

3DS also works in lime and citra

So no intervention required

[lapis moat]

That's a blanket statement that's not true across the board

So no

[uncut storm]

https://www.muycomputer.com/2025/04/10/anbernic-rg-557-una-consola-portatil-con-android-y-linux/

That was the thing. It makes a generic comment about linux on these devices

That's simply why I asked

[rocky nebula]

well if you like those better, play only with those. those of us who use Azahar do so because it lets you disable a useless part of the renderer that speeds up framerates by 200%

[uncut storm]

I would argue renaming the file extension isn't that big of a deal unless you have several hundred files

[ionic hornet]

You mean the same thing you can do in lime?

[ionic hornet]

[uncut storm]

I did it for megadrive games so i did not have constantly deal with the generic bin file association

[rocky nebula]

your statement is moot. Azahar is building steam because more people are drifting to it.

whether lime does the same or not is on lime

[ionic hornet]

I’m surprised people care this much lol

[wintry lark]

Limes also dead in the water at this point

[rocky nebula]

yep

[uncut storm]

It's the only path forward, like... that's it, unless you want to use something smaller

You can do whatever you feel, I don't judge you

All I say is thst you are going to lose fixes, improvements, etc

[rocky nebula]

requiring a file extension change doesn't hurt the process. it's just a quirky hurdle that's easy to climb.

open Fastone, select all files, mass-change extension to .cci.

[ionic hornet]

A quirky hurdle that doesn’t need to be there

[uncut storm]

Fastone?

[wintry lark]

I mean sure, but the solution is fairly easy so it's not a very big deal imo

[rocky nebula]

the problem is -none of us can change it-. whether we want it to be there or not only accomplishes nothing

[ionic hornet]

The solution is indeed very easy

[rocky nebula]

so chill and read the room, m'dude

[ionic hornet]

Except the people that fork and readd 3DS support

[rocky nebula]

nah, not gonna back that. it's redundant at this point. Also not gonnacontinue this dumb argument any further.

[ionic hornet]

[wintry lark]

The idea of removing .3ds file support is to disassociate the emulator from piracy AFAIK

Mildly annoying but justified

[uncut storm]

Like, looking it up there seem to be ways for changing extensions in bulk, apparently a simple command in windows cmd can do it to a folder

I personally find it a weak justification, we know what is going to be used for 99% of the time, but i get wanting to separate themselves from piracy

From a more legal thing if it may help them

Don't see exactly they gain because 3ds and cci is literally the same file byte by byte, but then again laws are stupid often enough

...and I just saw sony increased the price of ps5 lol

[ionic hornet]

Yeah it’s a solution in search of a problem

Might only be a file extension now but it’s a slippery slope

Who knows where it’ll end

[uncut storm]

I don't think this particular change is that serious but time will tell

[uncut storm]

N64 formats were a lot more annoying to me.

[narrow eagle]

just adapt

its not that hard 😭

[rocky nebula]

Is convincing one noncomforming person to read the room that important?

[uncut storm]

Look, we had a flexate a few days, we can have azahargate

[ruby skiff]

What are we angry at today 😄

[uncut storm]

But jokes aside, my only input was to point out that changing the extensions would be quick if the command prompt worked, and that those other emus will not get updates

I haven't chosen a dumb reason to be angry yet

I am slacking on this job

[ruby skiff]

Shocking 😛

[uncut storm]

I really hope it comes out great

[orchid beacon]

All will be revealed??? What else is coming, 557 already revealed

[uncut storm]

Maybe they are talking about details of its performance, drivers or something on those lines?

[crystal sparrow]

Where's Max Zhou

[cunning garden]

I’ve never seen him, legend has it he doesn’t go into non smoking places

[vocal isle]

what exhibition is this ? Never mind , I found it

[placid condor]

The RG407V, RG407H, and RG407C (Cube) I'd reckon. Anbernic already has the shells, just slap the new processor and analog sticks in and call it good. Low effort high yield release cycle!

[orchid beacon]

Rg407 plz

[placid condor]

That's what I'd do if I was Anbernic, at least. People seemed to really like the ergonomic form factors and screens on all the T820 devices but wanted a more powerful chipset and better analog sticks on the Cube and 556, and there's no sense in fixing what isn't broke so I'd just update them all with the D8300 chipset and new sticks and offer some new colorways. Personally I'd like a 407V in woodgrain lol

[uncut storm]

...I have to agree. If the ergonomics are good, people like the screen and such, just improve its weaknesses and call it a day.

Personally I'd like for them to do a 5' 4:3 version (don't really care about widescreen and it would result on a much taller display than the usual 16:9 for... well, the vast majority of systems, most are 240p or 480p. GBA might be the one odd out but could still look decent, although smaller than others

[silk sable]

I'd take an RG357H 😂

I want to go smaller but eh, don't think that's feasible just yet.

[uncut storm]

I think i can't go back to small screens

Looking it up a 5 inch 4:3 display would.be 1.4cm taller than a 16:9, that's quite a bit

[modest grotto]

Are they reusing/sourcing the 4 inch 4:3 displays from screens made for other devices?

[lapis moat]

Nobody knows anything lol

Shouting questions into the void

[stark cape]

I can't think of any devices other than the RG406V/H with 4:3 4" 720p displays

[uncut storm]

I mean, i could argue these small companies can't pay the money needed to assemble production lines to produce what they want

Using what's already being made I imagine is simpler

[stark cape]

100%

Retroid are getting an all-new panel made for some kind of RP Mini refresh

And they've said it's very costly to do something like that

[uncut storm]

Yes, I remember reading a few years ago what a huge cost it is.

Retroid surely wasn't happy with the rp mini situation

[crystal sparrow]

Unico Pocket has the same 4 inch IPS 960x720 LCD

[ionic hornet]

I thought the new mini panel was the same they used before just not 4:3-ified

[stark cape]

That's a different thing

They sending people these kits to replace the front of their Minis

But they also said they'll be getting a new panel made

Presumably one that's AMOLED 4" 4:3

Potentially still 1080p as well

[lapis moat]

It never was 1080p

[stark cape]

Right

Well I mean it was

They just hid 120 of those vertical pixels

[ionic hornet]

Erm actually it is 1080p

Just not 4:3

[lapis moat]

That's the format it was built and shipped in, so

[fickle belfry]

I mean .., they also said the last one had a 1280x960 4:3 panel, so I think everyone should take Retroid's statements with a whole shaker of salt here.

[stark cape]

I mean the debacle around said panel is the whole reason why they're doing it

But I'd be inclined to agree otherwise

More transparency in advance would have gone such a long way

[fickle belfry]

What's that quote - "Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair."

[uncut storm]

It actually goes
What's that quote - "Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and a new shiny thing to desire to repair."

[fickle belfry]

We need to lobby Anbernic to make either a woodgrain or transparent orange RG557. That would be a game changer.

[stark cape]

Despite being the abomination that it is, the BitBoy made me realise just how nice transparent orange looks

[ionic hornet]

Boycott till we get wood grain

[timid elk]

Transparent wood grain

[uncut storm]

Orange transparent woodgrain of metal

[vocal loom]

Woodgrain has to be the least popular color

[ionic hornet]

Nah it’s the most popular

Objectively the best

[meager hatch]

So on paper the D8300 looks like it potentially has a huge performance boost over a SD865 but what is it closer to reality with better drivers for SD ?
So basically this would have better performance for Android gaming ( wuwa , Genshin, ZZZ as a few examples ) but might not be on par with emulation?

[thick sail]

I wood buy a 557 if it comes in the best colorway

[vocal loom]

For most emulation it should meet or exceed. For rough emulators it may be worse. Can't say definitively till people that know what they are doing get their hands on this.

[orchid beacon]

Hope they set a date soon. I like that anbernic reveal soemthing then it’s out soon after, no bullshit

[lapis moat]

Really hoping orders go up by next week

[orchid beacon]

Sooner it’s out the sooner they can announce the 407h/v 🤞

[ionic hornet]

407V hype

[orchid beacon]

I’d love a V but how to implement analog triggers?

[uncut storm]

507v hype pls

[long chasm]

407M

[ionic hornet]

Anything 4:3 will be good

[meager hatch]

That's what I figured as you can brute force some emulation but cant fix overall bugginess or lack of development no matter how powerful the SOC is .
All in all looks like a absolutely huge performance bump over the T820 , still might wait for the eventual 407H/V as I'm probably one of the few that OLED isn't as important and want something a little more compact

[wintry lark]

Rg Cube 07 please 🤞

Lg wing screen

[warm wyvern]

Don't know if it was answered here already but does it support Linux ?
Given the controls it could be fun to try out Halo with the Xbox emulator

[vocal loom]

Honestly, having literally just ran through halo again, I'd rather stream the Updated version. The enhanced visuals is how my brain remembers halo, the old visuals are dated nowadays lol

[lapis moat]

The improved sticks along with wifi6e should go a long way in making this a standout streaming device

[timid elk]

I've heard a bunch of the atmosphere is lost with the updated visuals, and the low poly stuff has its charm. I need to actually sit down and play through Halo, I liked Reach well enough

[vocal loom]

Super disagree. I just noticed that there's a toggle button for new visuals and old, and bro, I'll take new all day lol

It's sooooooo much nicer

[ionic hornet]

Halo CA is a certified retro game so I like the original graphics

[uncut storm]

I've also heard about the loss from a couple of friends that are fan of that series. I just played the first three back then, so I can't really say

[ionic hornet]

Halo 1-reach are the best games

Played 4 and didn’t really care for it

Never played 5 or later

[uncut storm]

yeah, I heard enough about the 343 side of the series

to understand that's the most shared view for fans

[ionic hornet]

I wish you could download the individual games instead of the whole MCC

[uncut storm]

yeah...

[ionic hornet]

Cuz MCC is huge

Like 100+ gigglebytes

That’s a big download for just playing reach

[uncut storm]

not as big as the steamdeck but yeah

it'd be great if they let people get just what they wanted

[ionic hornet]

Like sure my claw has 1TB of storage but that doesn’t go very far these days

I wonder if there’s kits to pimp out an old 360 controller

[ruby skiff]

Yeah 1tb does not go far if you want AAA stuff 😄

[uncut storm]

when talking with friends about the size of modern games I just drop silly comments like "I could fit 74 gamecube games in the space that 100gb game uses, more if I trimmed them" because jesus christ, it's getting both ridiculous how big they are AND how much the industry is passing the cost of optimization unto consumers

And hearing people say "Just buy bigger hard drive" really makes my eyes roll hard, hahaha

[crude mango]

The worst part? Most of that space is them bundling full voice acting in every supported language together

Instead of them letting you only download the languages you want

[uncut storm]

Or repeating assets for faster loadings

Or makin cutscenes videos even if they are recorded from in engine models and environments

[crude mango]

Voice acting in video games was a mistake

Ruined games all because a subset of console gamers refuse to learn to read

It’s half of why game budgets have gone insane too

[uncut storm]

Ehhh, i blame lazy people, no voice acting

[crude mango]

And why rpgs are all dumbed down - you simply can’t voice act the amount of dialog that’s in the classics

The only two RPGs to actually hit 90s crpg level of dialog with voice acting are the absurdly expensive to make bg3 and the “we added the voice acting after the game was a runaway hit without it” disco elysium

Every single other voice acted rpg has way shallower dialog compared to the greats from the “our customers can read” era

[thick sail]

Like final fantasy x

Garbage story

[radiant meadow]

Even then have subtitles I don't care if they speak different language I rather have subtitles

[uncut storm]

Not just the "greats", even not well known games can have boatloads of dialogue.

Random example, an NES srpg named Just Breed. As you advance and go to new cities and towns, previous ones update npc dialogues almost for every progress step you do.

The amount of conversations of things you do several towns after you do plot related things impressed me even more than the game itself for the console was made for

[radiant meadow]

Yakuza is like an prime example if they kept subtitles only it would be better

[mild jungle]

Better than FF12's story despite 12 being my favourite game of all time

That story was mid at best

[uncut storm]

Ff12 was hit with the axe of development hell

[crude mango]

JRPGs did ok with the transition because you generally hear every recorded line in the same playthrough - it’s not like planescape torment or fallout 1/2 where you have massive dialog trees with influence from your characters stats and background for every single npc

[uncut storm]

Very unfortunate

Because I really wanted more cutscenes with character interactions

[crude mango]

I’m not shitting on jrpgs, I play a ton of them, but when it comes to total lines of dialog the cRPG is what lost the most by expecting voice acting

Morrowind vs Skyrim

[ruby skiff]

huh some interesting takes today 😄

[crude mango]

My cynical take on why we haven’t gotten a Morrowind remaster is because console gamers will riot if it doesn’t have full voice acting and pc gamers will riot if they dumb down dialog, so they’re waiting for someone else to claim the dishonor of “first aaa game to use AI voiceover” to make it acceptable for them to do it to my sweet baby Morrowind

[mild jungle]

Always, in here

[ruby skiff]

that is indeed a very cynical take xD

[ionic hornet]

Baldurs gate 3 would like a word

[uncut storm]

Maybe people would have less grief against reading if so many games didn't have such small and thin fonts

[ionic hornet]

I don’t mind a shit load of dialogue in rpgs but it gets to a point where I’d just rather read a book

[uncut storm]

I don't see them as the same experience though

[ionic hornet]

That’s just my personal opinion on the games

Voice acting breaks the monotony

[radiant meadow]

It depends on the game in rpgs

[ionic hornet]

Totally

[crude mango]

What was the budget on that one? We definitely can’t do that for every game lol

[ionic hornet]

Fair enough lol

But tell that to every other AAA studio with 4X the budget

[wintry lark]

Honestly yeah, hope I don't get burned at the stake for this but some of the dialogue in fallout new vegas got way too long, especially in the old world blues

[wintry lark]

Tbf bethesda would definitely have the budget for full va in morrowind, now whether or not they would actually use that budget well is a different story

[ionic hornet]

(They wouldn’t lol)

[wintry lark]

Although now that I think about it starfield did have a crap ton of spoken dialogue

[ruby skiff]

BG3 is a fair outlier although success wasn't guaranteed, i remember in ea launch there were a lot of questions whether it could really live up as a BG sequel, plus 60$ early access game etc carried its own risk

[ruby skiff]

wel.... that's not too heavy in favor of them 😄

[wintry lark]

What do you mean?

[ruby skiff]

starfield is divisive at best

I enjoyed it more than most and still do but i cant call it very well designed, and certainly not well written

[proper flicker]

I played it at launch for a while, felt really soulless

[radiant meadow]

If they was well written it would be decent

[uncut storm]

Don't confuse writing with text,

Bad writing affects spoken dialogue too

[proper flicker]

Yeah, I agree that the characters just feel very generic

[ruby skiff]

I like when people discuss game writing, I miss being involved with narrative design tbh

its been a while

[radiant meadow]

The problem with xbox it's always inconsistency one min the game is good/underrated another min it's even not bad but it's so soulless

[wintry lark]

I mean yeah but it still has a lot of fully voice acted lines, more than most games, so I'd say there's a good chance bethesda could make a fully voice acted morrowind

[ruby skiff]

we can blame xbox/microsoft but bethesda has to burden a lot of the blame on that one too

[radiant meadow]

Oh 100%

[ruby skiff]

oh for certain, no disagreement on that 🙂

[wintry lark]

Starfield imo isn't a terrible game its just not that good

I had a decent time with it

[ruby skiff]

definetely not terrible, no 🙂 i liked it more than i expected

[wintry lark]

It's like a 6-7/10

[ruby skiff]

they were also trying to take on what has been impossible so far yet in terms of game genre

[proper flicker]

Well IMO Bethesda games are usually about grinding stuff, I think Todd even said as much in one of F3-era interviews

The question is whether the particular mechanic they're pushing appeals to you

The writing (in their games) does matter, but comes secondary to the part you're gonna be doing for hours

[uncut storm]

But that depends on the person playing too. "Lol grinding wanna loot" might not matter to someone that wants to know about the world they're in and will be for many hours

[wintry lark]

Yeah that's kind of the way I look at it, bethesda games are at their most fun when you ignore the writing and just do whatever you want

[proper flicker]

Well I mean grinding in general sense, just certain mechanics you're gonna be doing over and over again

In that Fallout 3 interview he was talking about shooting ("if we get the sound of a gunshot right, everything will come together")

In other games it can be finding scrap and base building (Fallout 4/76), space dogfights (Starfield), etc

[uncut storm]

I wouldn't like as many games as I do if I flat out ignored their narrative or worldbuilding elements, even for games that have simpler ones.

[proper flicker]

I mean, how many people have spent hundreds of hours in Skyrim before they even bothered with the main quest

Witcher or BG3 wouldn't work that way

[wintry lark]

The environmental storytelling in bethesda games is usually better than their actual storylines. The fallout games are great at that imo

[proper flicker]

True

[wintry lark]

Especially for the different vaults you find

[proper flicker]

Oh yeah, that lore is incredible

Plus Bethesda occasionally makes great weird sidequests

[crude mango]

yeah I wish bethesda still made the games they're good at making

coming up on 10 years since FO4

[ionic hornet]

Does HiFi count as a Bethesda game

[crude mango]

no, but even if it did that isn't them doing the exploration and side quest rabbit whole we expect from TES/FO

we just want proper mainline FO/TES games and we haven't gotten one for a decade

[ruby skiff]

fist bump 😄

[uncut storm]

🤜

[polar wadi]

So this has same power as RP5 but more comfortable shape? And Anbernic are usually less expensive than Retroid too, correct?

[fickle belfry]

Unless this has some sort of fatal flaw that we don't know about, I'd definitely pick this up instead of the RP5 for things like PS2 and Gamecube. Comfort means something, and this will have enough power to play the same games as the RP5 can. Without killing your hands or requiring a ridiculous grip attachment. That said, this won't support Linux - so if you're looking to run Rocknix or similar, the RP5 becomes an attractive option.

[polar wadi]

Plus Anbernic's usually cost a bit less than the Retroid option, also.

[radiant meadow]

Yes especially after launch

Not on their official website

[polar wadi]

AliExpress? Where else?

[ruby skiff]

the comfort of this thing is insane

[radiant meadow]

Yes

[alpine bronze]

more powerful but ye

[vocal loom]

Well a lot of that is also textures. Imo you should just be able to pick off choosing x textures if you won't use it. That and shit like languages

[uncut storm]

It really makes no sense to have x and y quality assets if you will only need z, yeah, but here's the issue:

Companies don't care and devs already have a bad time developing games

They can't even finish them at release too often

And they're crunched to hell

[timid elk]

https://stanleyparable.com/hds/1/ oh boy it's time to post this Stanley Parable blogpost again lol

[uncut storm]

I played that quite some time ago.

[small fiber]

what's the included "video game downloaded" that zu mentioned in his video about this? is that the same thing that somebody got running in muOS that got those devs all riled up?

[ionic hornet]

Pretty much

[uncut storm]

Sorry, i was busy.

Man after reading that after so long, i have to replay stanley again.

It walks such a thin line between sincerely trying to say something and taking the piss massively and it works.

[wintry lark]

Doesn't really make as much sense to have it on an android device since you can just use the browser

[uncut storm]

No new details about the RG557 have been made public?

[lapis moat]

Nah =/ I've been F5'ing the shit outta this to be ready believe me

[uncut storm]

Shoot

Oh well, thank you

[rocky nebula]

friend at work: "I need to talk to you, man... did you see?"
me: "see what."
"you know.... the FIVE FIVE SEVEN???"

this guy has an Odin 2 Max. I wonder if he knows that the O2max is like... a million times better

[uncut storm]

Maybe he really likes the ergonomics?

[lapis moat]

I'm more surprised you know another human being that's into retro handhelds. Haven't met one yet.

[uncut storm]

I mean, i could see someone getting more enjoyment for a "lower level" thing for a multitude of reasons.

I do, but that'd make a total of two

Lol

[rocky nebula]

i saw an rg34xx flip out in the wild two weeks ago. there's a pic on my phone

[lapis moat]

I only see steamdecks and an occasional Ally

Oh an 3DS's. But I don't count those

[uncut storm]

Beside decks and one retroid, only powkiddies myself

[lapis moat]

So crazy not even an hour after saying I never met anyone else who knows about em, dude on the train home asked me "which anbernic is that" when he saw my 28xx

[ionic hornet]

Based dude

[crude mango]

I'm the only person I know IRL unhinged enough to have a bunch of these things but one friend has a MM+ and cubeXX, and another has an rp2s

I guess I know one more person IRL with a collection but I met her through here first and it just turned out we live in the same area

[lapis moat]

I kinda like how faint the purple tint is in the plastic. Almost makes it look crystalline

Not as banger as the transblue but close

[narrow eagle]

yea i feel the same way

[vocal loom]

I think they went with the color choices because the mold is so similar/the same that they had to differentiate the 557

[thick sail]

I was a bit confused when I saw the purple color option, I thought it was white and transparent black. Looks pretty good imo

[thick sail]

Just not quite as good as wood grain would

[crude mango]

Should’ve done a retro snes grey or old computer beige

Or a dark Atari wood grain

[stark locust]

There are many reasons why some people might not be able to read the subtitles like blindness, poor eye sight, dislexia, etc. Gatekeeping this people from enjoying a game just because you're annoyed at the file size is the real mistake

[crude mango]

It’s not about being annoyed at the file size even, it’s about that entire genre of game partially getting dumbed down and partially ceasing to exist because it isn’t practical to make an rpg like planescape: torment if you need to voice act it

I don’t want us to only get one CRPG of note every 15-30 years

[stark locust]

But I do agree with you that the language packages should be optional so you can choose what language you want to download

I think it's the best compromise for everyone

[vocal loom]

Blah blah blah plz drop soon

Plz

[lunar python]

Purple is a good color because it invites wealth
feng shui

[ionic hornet]

Purple is the color associated with royalty

[wintry lark]

Nah that's what's associated with MagicX

[uncut storm]

One wonders then why sometimes make subtitles tiny to not obfuscate the oh so important cutscene, or why they choose fonts that are hard to read.

This is a complain I have beeing seen repeated time and time again for over a decade.

Voice acting doesn't fix much when it also affects ui and menus, for example.

Like, we need to see the skin imperfections of characters in full detail but screw you if you have poor eyesight, or even good, because we decided the font is "a mood" and not something that should be practical and easily readable.

Like, specially today, people can be playing your game on a desktop, on a big ass tv far away, on a portable system, through streaming on whatever it can do that...

I have a friend wih poor eyesight and I had to read things for him more often today than back in pre-hd days and gets frustrated by that.

Sometimes is not even the size but the poor contrast between letters and what's around them, because many games now don't even have textboxes to make them clearer to be more "cinematic", or if they have them the colors for background and font are too similar.

Voice acting doesn't fix shit in this regard, and I say it as someone that is not against it.

I think people getting too weakwilled to read is a more complex thing but making the text like this no doubt had an effect on the general public too...

[pure nacelle]

https://9to5linux.com/panvk-open-source-vulkan-driver-for-arm-mali-gpus-is-now-vulkan-1-1-conformant --- This can be good news

For Maili GPU emulator development

PSP Vulkan improvement, Winlator good improvement chances

[uncut storm]

Oh, that sounds cool

Anything that uses vulkan would get improved?

Because retroarch, dolphin, 3ds emus can work with it too for example (at least on pc, no idea on android)

[long chasm]

Wow amazing show us

[ruby skiff]

Ooooh

[crystal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7w5bpcJAcU

[radiant meadow]

Yh it's time

[stark cape]

The fucking country music

Or whatever it is

It cracks me up every time

[uncut storm]

I tell ya hwat, nothin' mo' muhrican than a truly tariff'd chinese electronics. Them play like freedom, yeehaw.

To be fair, rather have that guitar than the stale gamer/tech trope

[radiant meadow]

You know it's anbernic time

[stark cape]

In any case, thing seems really solid

Should be able to brute force basically everything on PS2, right?

At least aside from the games that are fucked up on emulator regardless

[radiant meadow]

Yes on paper

[atomic lichen]

pretty sure een Odin 2 hsa issues with some of the hard to emu titles