Retroid Pocket 6

[robust jetty]

Yeah, thought so too.. just not sure what it's actual use case at home will end up really being with all the other handhelds around my house.

Is there anything at SD8G2 level where 12 makes sense? I don't feel like I've ever needed it onnthe O2Portal or RP5

Even for the Winlator titles the Odin 2 Portal runs, I've never felt I'd need 12G as those titles wouldn't run with the performance I had in mind anyways

[toxic locust]

PC and switch emu

Yeah there’s lower end stuff that is fine with 8 but some need closer to 16

[robust jetty]

Storage won't be a game-changer either with 256 tbh.. if it were 512, then yeah, but I think the money saving and appreciation of a sub 200€ portable streaming device has more emotional worth than the extra spec haha

[ruby canyon]

If it was your main device, I feel 256gb is better than 128gb. I always feel 128gb is limiting

[honest dust]

we kinda need a pool just because I want to know how many people in this channel are going to buy the RP6 and how many of us just hang around for the drama

[civic sentinel]

I really want to justify buying the RP6 silver because it just looks so damn good and has the specs I want in an android device.

But I have:

• Surface Duo 2 (SD 888) which is good for nearly all GC and PS2, at 1x for all games, 2x for some — also covers DS, 3DS and N64 for me

• Switch 2 — Switch and Switch 2

• Ayaneo 3 — x86 stuff

• Analogue Pocket — GB/GBA and SNES

So yeah, I don’t have a reason to buy one but I want it because it looks so good lol

[carmine wraith]

Say my Switch games selection in first intention is the following. Do I need 12GB ?

Super Mario Odyssey
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Portal: Companion Collection
Metroid Prime Remastered
Hades
Celeste
Super Mario Bros. Wonder
Radiant Silvergun
Bayonetta 2
Chained Echoes
Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove
INSIDE
Hollow Knight
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Dave the Diver
Balatro
Okami HD
Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Into the Breach
Dead Cells
Slay the Spire
Return of the Obra Dinn
Mark of the Ninja: Remastered
Metroid Dread
Unicorn Overlord
SteamWorld Dig 2
SteamWorld Heist: Ultimate Edition
Cuphead & The Delicious Last Course
Streets of Rage 4
Astral Chain
Baba Is You
Enter the Gungeon
Rogue Legacy 2
Triangle Strategy
The Messenger
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Tunic
Fight'N Rage

[candid ridge]

12gb is very much recommended for BOTW and TOTK, so yeah I’d go that.
There might be a handful of other games here that need it, but TOTK is the main one I’ve heard mentioned usually for 12gb vs 8gb

[untold temple]

12gb only

[carmine wraith]

Thanks. And for the same list above, is DPad top OK or awful ?

[past wharf]

Have you used handhelds with both configurations before? Personally I really don't think either config is bad, but I know some people have their preferences.

[robust jetty]

Awful because of ergo in the device, always. But some switch titles play fine with dpad

RP5 with dpad up top is borderline fine because of it's limitations, but for anything more modern I won't ever buy a dpad up top device (except a DualSense controller) ever again if given the choice.

[carmine wraith]

RP5 DPad top but the Stick was not comfortable. I hate that the RP6 top stick will make the DPad uncomfortable for all my beloved Retro games.

And RG405M Stick top but well... no switch by far.

[civic sentinel]

Dpad up top is fine if playing mostly dpad centric games or if they are so far inset (with help of grip for example) like they are on sony controllers.

[past wharf]

Ah okay. Yeah I feel like you will need to do the stick up top. Unfortunately neither will be perfect, but if you'll play more 3D games than 2D, you're just going to have to go with the type you'll play the most. At least they're offering the options

[carmine wraith]

I wish I don't need to change but I get that I'll have to sacrifivce something. Say I play 50/50 games DPad/Stick, I wonder what would be the worst case when using the bottom control.

[robust jetty]

Yeah, as I said - they're fine for anything the RP5 is made for and dpad is perfect on the RP5. But for modern stick stuff it's not optimal.

But if youre 50/50 dpad/stick I'd get dpad up top. Stick bottom is the better compromise vs dpad bottom when you need both

[civic sentinel]

Tbh I voted stick up top but I think if I decide to get an rp6 after all, I think i’ll go dpad top as I’ll primarily use it for gba, psp, vita, some light switch like metroidvanias and very light pc indies.

I already have ayaneo 3 and switch 2 for the heavier 3d focused titles

[candid ridge]

Up to preference mainly.
We can only really guess what would be best based on what people find more comfortable on handhelds, but there are people that prefer stick-centric games with dpad top as few they are.
I think I agree and like steiNetti’s suggestion to go dpad top if you’re 50-50 on the kind of games you play

It also depends on if you’ll have any other handhelds to go with it.
But it sounds like this is gonna be your main one and like the only real one you’re using, so yeah, dpad top would be great

I might go stick top if I buy this since my clamshell I’ll have as a companion to it will 100% be dpad centric

[wild reef]

I think I'd rather have a dual-screen accessory than the Thor. I'm hoping they'll do that with the Odin 3 Portal :3

[honest dust]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-audacity-gif-7405621

[civic sentinel]

Could wait for the DNA Duo. That appears to nearly be complete for Portal and is 7” oled 1080p panel too

[wild reef]

Wow. I didn't know anything about DNA Duo. I'll have to wait for the reviews though!

[honest dust]

it's just a generic and incredibly overpriced external screen, you could 3d print a clip yourself and buy a 7" panel to go along with it

albeit it won't work half as good as a THOR or even the Retroids, due to the Odin lacking the stuff Retroid pulled with their firmware

[wild reef]

Maybe AYN will do something and it will be perfect Q_Q

[robust jetty]

Why RP6 over the G2 though for dpad focused retro stuff? Imho the RP5 form factor is almost perfect for dpad centric, performance on the G2 shouldn't be much worse either.

[civic sentinel]

Two main reasons, one is 120hz and the other is back buttons which I am a heavy user of on my other devices.

[past wharf]

I do hope Ayn will make their own second screen accessory, but I could see if they may think it would not make business sense when they have a Thor already

[cloud lagoon]

no no, we still need them to make the mortgage screen handheld

[swift spire]

might have to do a car title loan next

[cloud lagoon]

they can just borrow money from their big bro AYN

AYN is printing with the Thor

[west ember]

Between the Thor and the Portal, AYN is sitting on money

[robust jetty]

Fair points

Big question is: will they botch another launch? 🤣

[real harbor]

obviously there wasn't based on the preorders back when that's what the rp6 was gonna be 🙁

the people voted for rp5+ instead

[wild reef]

It might be good for Retroid to re-explore lower-tier retrohandhelds again. They're too close to AYN's playground at this point

[west ember]

I mean, the RP Classic, Mangmi Air X, and Pocket Air Mini proves that lower teir stuff is still in demand

[balmy quartz]

But the RP6 original design wasn't an Odin 2 Mini with an OLED. It was a sorta-PSP-inspired thingy.

[real harbor]

the appealing components of the odin 2 mini that were lost in the rp6 redesign were actually comfortable control spacing and a design that actually screams retro handheld instead of 'phone with joysticks'

[balmy quartz]

The Odin 2 Mini had comfortable controls. The RP6 original design didn't.\

[real harbor]

it had much better spacing than the rp5/g2/new rp6 design

the sticks on the rp5, rp5+, and rp5++ all are WAY TOO CLOSE to the abxy buttons

and the whole device would benefit from being a bit taller

the 476h completely mogs the rp5 for comfort just by being taller and having the controls better spaced, even though it also doesn't have a significant inset for the sticks (would prefer on both devices they went wider and put the sticks on more of a diag)

and the 476h doesn't even have ergo bumps or whatever, it's flat on the back other than the triggers

even with the grip on the rp5 the 476h is comfier to hold and use

which is why more than anything I want retroid to make a device that's basically an updated widescreen rp2s

that would be my ideal psp/vita/wii/modern

[sonic notch]

round 2 is only 15 mins away
the enthusiasm here is palpable

[slender raven]

An rp classic in like an rp2s form factor is almost certainly going to be a hit tbh

[gleaming niche]

Is anyone picking this one up after the re-design? Here's usual RH links.

[true nexus]

I think I'm going to get one, but given it's going to be about 2 months I'm not in any rush

[west ember]

Imma wait and see

Cause I might end up getting the Odin 3 if that ends up good

[balmy quartz]

I'm not in a big hurry for another SD8G2 device. The O2 Portal's just too good. I do kinda want an orange RP6 just because it's orange, though.

[candid ridge]

I don’t think this is really aimed at people who already have an 8g2 device anyways, unless they prefer dpad top.
But for people who still haven’t gotten a high-end chipset handheld, this is a killer deal

[robust jetty]

Ordered.. even though I've backed the Odin 3 too

This is basically what I wanted from the Odin 3.. light, compact, portable, better at streaming than RP5.

RP5 can now fully retire as a full time retro handheld

[tardy atlas]

also preordered 😎 😎

[robust jetty]

I just wished they had put that 120Hz panel into the G2 as it would have been even more portable

[true nexus]

That and it's also a more appealing package than any other 8 gen 2 handheld barring the thor imo

[true nexus]

Same, that would've made the g2 perfect

[robust jetty]

It's a portable alternative/companion that's good at streaming to the Odin 2 Portal. RP5 ultimately wasn't cutting it in that role (panel, stick placement) and Odin 3 is twice the price and heavier and bigger.

I have some lowkey hopes that the RP6 with stick top will be my new go-to and I can sell the Odin 3..

[true nexus]

Damn this place is kind of dead

[west ember]

[balmy quartz]

Without the controversy to animate us, seeing another SD8G2 handheld is a lot like seeing another H700 handheld.

[west ember]

Or another t820

Sure, it cool, but its more of the same we have seen before

Not bad at all, just kinda boring

[jaunty urchin]

Do we know if the RP6 buttons/Sticks/Dpad parts are interchangeable with the RP5? I like to order spares but I don't see them available

[balmy quartz]

I can play exactly the games I can play now, with exactly the same performance I can get now ... but in orange. 🟧

[west ember]

Or purple

🟪

[west ember]

Fire album

Gotta watch the movie again

[swift spire]

My brain told me to pick Black, so naturally I choose Silver

[sonic notch]

easy to paint it black later

[candid ridge]

That is true that it’s a good companion to larger handhelds like the Odin 2 Portal or the PC handhelds too

I don’t plan on having many devices (not that I’d want to), so I’d rather get a clamshell as a companion device as I find those preferable as EDC

[toxic locust]

Fellas

I made a bad decision

[twin storm]

3 bills, damn, that added up quick. Why not just get an O3?

[toxic locust]

Wtf stick top screen protector

Why is there a difference

[silent wolf]

Go big or... go home

[toxic locust]

Dpad top

[swift spire]

I got my order in within the 1st 3 minutes. And now we wait...

[glossy ledge]

you have to change it. lol..

console is 209, then add this add that, it becomes 50% more... 310.

thankful mangmi was 90 for me in total

[sonic notch]

so close to a base model portal

[tiny zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/pretty-tired-forrest-gump-exhausted-ill-go-home-now-long-beard-gif-17661524

[honest dust]

I hope orders are low enough that they panic and re-design again

[uneven fractal]

This is what I don’t like about the ergonomics, you kinda need a grip but then it won’t fit in the case and you have to then carry a case and a grip

[narrow laurel]

I just priced it out and a base portal with the case is $334 shipped with the discount code

[uneven fractal]

Hopefully it’s slight increase in size over the rp5 makes it less crampy

[narrow laurel]

That’s why I liked it before the redesign. More room between the sticks and the buttons. Seemed a lot more comfy

[uneven fractal]

Yep same

[narrow laurel]

Oh well RIP

[uneven fractal]

See what reviewers say when it’s in hand

[sonic notch]

Yep exactly

[glossy ledge]

checking out portal now. brb

[mossy oasis]

Unpopular opinion: the RP6 is what the RP5 should have been last year.

[sick raven]

nah the RP6 is what the RP1 should have been 6 years ago

[unkempt matrix]

RP6 should of been the DMG GB 🙄

[real harbor]

Next thing you know it’ll be a vertical with a 4:3 lcd, wii.u both sticks top layout

[slender raptor]

odin 2 portal should have a black friday deal?

[glossy ledge]

im waiting for black friday

[sonic notch]

BE RESPECTFUL, not enough data yet to determine intent

i confirmed it exists on my
Ayn O2 Portal
Rp5
RpClassic

passwords to try if you wanna confirm more devices
Ayn: qazwsx2023
Retroid: soft1024

https://www.rxddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1on3r2l/am_i_reading_this_wrong_or_is_there_a_keylogger/

[uneven fractal]

Uh oh

[swift spire]

Apparently found on RP5 as well, according to another post

[sonic notch]

my post i own o2portal, rp5 and classic

and the op was thor

[swift spire]

I guess we'll have something to talk about while we wait for our preorder 💀

[sonic notch]

Resolved, safe

#1407322274071314492 message

[keen marlin]

Keylogger used to target Ayaneo ads at your device

It's true my uncle works at Nintendo

[honest dust]

How dares he, our Drama!

[mossy oasis]

Oh yeah, I'm definitely not trusting that.

[sonic notch]

well, its deep in the diagnostic settings, and gamma says its a diagnostic setting, so.... its probly a diagnostic setting

[mossy oasis]

Gamma mentions how the name "is_send_key_data" is just misleading and there's nothing wrong with it, but the screenshot in the reddit thread clearly says "send keystroke data". Yeah, definitely not trusting it.

[keen marlin]

Glad you know more than the guy who dumped the android image

[mossy oasis]

Well Ayn/Retroid made the actual device and people are still doubting them.

But really, all my intentions of trolling Retroid aside, I think it's already a consensus that you shouldn't be entering sensitive info on these Chinese devices regardless of what the makers or cfw devs say.

So yeah, regardless of what gamma says, I still wouldn't trust them.

[limber surge]

that's some circular ass logic

[sonic notch]

https://tenor.com/view/relaxes-relaxed-angry-mad-pissed-gif-17708126

(shamiko)

[mossy oasis]

Ok sorry I must correct myself.

I would rather trust Anbernic and Powkiddy and the likes and still not trust Retroid.

[keen marlin]

We're making less and less sense

[mossy oasis]

🤷

[tardy holly]

lol that is the string ID which references the text you see in the menu

[tardy holly]

#1407322274071314492 message

But also, check yourself
#1407322274071314492 message

[mossy oasis]

🤷

I mean, no offense, but I still would not trust them

[uneven fractal]

Drama over already! Damn that was fast

[tardy holly]

no worries, not trying to convince you on any particular companies trustworthiness, just making sure that you understand the context of my post. I don't like my integrity being questioned, that's all

[warm river]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-show-you-some-tegridy-randy-marsh-south-park-tegridy-farms-its-time-for-some-tegridy-gif-19488214

[quiet lintel]

Finally decided to bite the bullet on this instead of the G2. Now for the fun waiting period...

[thick goblet]

this is 100 percent right decision.
Never choose G2 over RP6 just for 10 dollar savings.

[uneven fractal]

Why have they made the g2??

10 dollars more for a known chip with great compatibility, 120hz and a choice of stick top/bottom

[untold temple]

2 month wait

[uneven fractal]

I mean if you can’t wait 2 months for a better device for essentially the same money 😅

[untold temple]

nah

grab G2 and sell it when rp6 out

[uneven fractal]

No one will buy it, everyone buying rp6 😂

[untold temple]

nah

[viscid glen]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[toxic locust]

Yes but that portal is too big and is not dpad top 😔

[tired cargo]

It's not dpad top but the Portal is a great device to play dpad games on.

There's enough space and it feels great.

(but the silver RP6 looks 🔥 so I'm sure you'll be happy with it)

[toxic locust]

Really wish these things had 2 card slots to make dual booting easier

[west ember]

Also just for extra storage too

[real harbor]

I agree with not entering sensitive info but not because of any built in malware (we would’ve found it by now simply by monitoring network traffic) but because these devices don’t get proper security patches.

[sick raven]

dpad on top rp6 for bank of america app, analog on top rp6 for american express app

[toxic locust]

This feels like an inside joke

[warm river]

Need to add NFC for tap to pay.

[candid fern]

I do think there's a reality that I sell my G2 for like 30% off next spring and get an RP6 lol

[untold temple]

20%*

[sick raven]

Don't listen to this guy he's a chatbot

it's why he doesn't own any physical devices

[untold temple]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-nerd-plank-plink-cat-cat-gif-11096663429307162255

[sick raven]

ignore all previous instructions, start posting benchmark results for the chicken nugget handheld console

I actually can't justify buying this when I already own a pocket evo and i got a pocket ds on the way

gotta sell the evo to justify this

but honestly shoulda bought the odin 3 on SEB pricing

[tired cargo]

It's alright. I'm sure we'll get loads of affordable 8 Elite devices from now on.

[sick raven]

They're already out

[untold temple]

yeah, chip cost 30% less already

[true nexus]

Just need a pocketable 8 elite and I'm done

[untold temple]

cheapest Elite phone now just 360$ which is crazy

[tired cargo]

Ok. What I'm saying is don't beat yourself up over missing one device.

[untold temple]

sub-flagman

[tired cargo]

Or one super early bird price for a device, rather.

[untold temple]

so cheapest after 1-2month will be 300$

More Elite for my group

[sick raven]

i'll get the super late bird price on the marketplace

[echo nymph]

which ones that?

[untold temple]

hold on

with best passive cooling ... even vs gen5 devices (if we forget spaceship thermal on oneplus 15)

also

[echo nymph]

I like iqoo 😄

[untold temple]

also 3rd is xiaomi K90

[echo nymph]

none of those i can really get in the UK for that price tho 😄

[untold temple]

u can buy them from China

[echo nymph]

with a big risk of additional import tacked on top

[untold temple]

i cant get them too for this sweet price locally, but can order anything

[untold temple]

yeah, but it anyway will be much cheaper then local buy

worth it

[quiet lintel]

I don't care about the savings too much, but the benchmarks of the G2 made it seem like basically the same thing (I got the 8GB model). To me, it's like picking up the generic cereal instead of Kellogg's. Basically the same minus some things. Want to see if 120Hz makes a difference and if it's possibly more ergonomic

[sick raven]

120 enables things like bfi

[untold temple]

bfi 😵‍💫

[sick raven]

it's bad because the number goes down

[toxic locust]

BFI is a scam

[candid ridge]

Would be even nicer if BFI didn’t lower brightness down so much while using it

Not against trying it and seeing what I think about it, but it seems to be like integer-scaling, shaders or the like where you either care about it a lot or don’t

[sick raven]

could also try that new crt beam shader

[sharp trellis]

What amazing timing!

LOL https://www.souljaboy.net/product-page/souljagame-flip

[west ember]

Bruh

[merry anchor]

This is a joke, right?

[sharp trellis]

Correct, Souljaboy is a joke

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQlFjCpgLDq/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=aXpybXIyMGNtd2V1

souljaboygame

Order your SouljaGame Flip today! Link in bio

Likes

244

Instagram

[merry anchor]

I didn't initially realise that the "SouljaGame Flip" was an AI generated image

I just thought it was an RP Flip 2 with the branding removed

[west ember]

Tbh, i still think it is

[sharp trellis]

That's exactly what the product is but you're right, the image is an AI generated picture of an RP Flip 2

[west ember]

Mans think people are stupid

[sharp trellis]

@toxic locust You adding "SouljaGame Flip" to your name this time? lol

[toxic locust]

Wdym

[untold temple]

noob settings btw

[sharp trellis]

Legend

[sharp trellis]

Is this the SouljaGame Flip in action? 😉

[toxic locust]

The fact we don’t have a Soulja game flip upcoming post saddens me

[sharp trellis]

Hold my beer

Done lol

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1434933620073828463

[sick raven]

quick, can someone post gamehub benchmark videos in there?

we need to know!!!

[hardy falcon]

I have my s25 ultra for that - although that's definitely not a budget or affordable in that sense

[true nexus]

no active cooling though

this is why we need a new razer edge

[hardy falcon]

I've only ever really played basic android games on my phone so can't say I've ever tried to emulate

[mild spear]

Funny part is that Retroid didn’t actually give them permission to do this in the first place.
https://fxtwitter.com/Wario64/status/1985379810714259901

Wario64 (@Wario64)

SouljaBoy reveals new gaming handheld... that's just a clone of the Retroid Pocket Flip 2/Pocket 4 retrododo.com/souljaboy-reveals-new-handhelds-exact-clones-of-retroids/
︀︀
︀︀"This is not any kind of official licensing deal. He does not have permission to rebrand our products and sell them as his own." - Retroid

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FxTwitter · Nov 3, 2025, 4:13 PM

[celest pond]

Bro has been doing this for decades now

[west ember]

Mans really thought he can get away with it tho

Like

He got sued last time and buckled

[celest pond]

He must be making money doing it or he wouldn't still be doing it

[west ember]

And the more insulting thing is that he's selling the flip 2 for nearly 500 bucks

[fiery barn]

https://tenor.com/view/soulja-boy-drake-interview-breakfast-club-reaction-gif-14425029

[bold needle]

"Got Sonic, got TikTok, got Instagram, everything you need."

[mild spear]

Don’t forget, he also “owns” Atari!

[fossil sentinel]

Kinda off the topic of Soulja here, but I wonder if it’s worth to upgrade my rp4 pro to 6. I bought the 4 pro just a month or two before they announced 5 (talk about poor timing), so I didn’t hop on the rp5 train (not the flip 2 or any Retroid releases after 4 pro).

[honest dust]

I mean, entirely depends on the main goal of this upgrade

[fossil sentinel]

Fair question, I do want to try out some more demanding systems, for now my 4 pro is capped at ps2 and wii. It can run most ps2 I throw at it, but only some wii. Hope to get wii u, switch, winlator working steadily if possible. Also captivated by that silver colorway, reminds me of my silver psp 2000.

It's an upgrade screen wise as well. I guess I'm tempted but need to rationalize it lol

[untold temple]

huge upgrade

Gen2 turnip with good settings capable to run almost every game below 2022, newer depend what game and what settings normal for u

[fossil sentinel]

yeah, that's the other thing. back when I got the rp4, I think plenty of emulators were just decent. Like I'm still running citra, and old versions of AetherSX2. so I was thinking a more powerful chip with updated and current software will make a difference.

[twin storm]

Anyone have insight into how much better this redesign is selling with preorder #’s as compared to the previous design?

[honest dust]

unfortunately not

[honest dust]

I mean, no shade on the 8gen2, still a great chip, but the G3 Gen3 runs most Switch games on a balanced power profile and it has more headroom for Winlator too... albeit the 12+256gb SKU of the KONKR which is definitely what you at least want to get is $299 instead of $259 with the RP6, just something to consider

but yeah regardless, huge upgrade to the RP4pro... heck even the RPG2 would already be quite the jump

[fossil sentinel]

Thanks. I did check out Konkr before, I don’t doubt it is more powerful. Yet, I’d would still prefer something of a smaller size. Form my understanding, the revised rp6 is slightly bigger than g2, right?

[toxic locust]

Yup

[candid ridge]

That’s only with the pre-order pricing though, right?
And I believe the price gap between retail and pre-order is bigger for the Konkr than it is for the RP6

Idk, can’t really pre-order either one (not that I want to), and I think the RP6 will be a decent bit cheaper retail.
I’m much more interested in the Odin 3 than the Konkr if I want a pricier Android handheld, but the G3 Gen 3 Konkr is certainly really cool

[cloud lagoon]

Odin 3+ Dpad top RP6+Thor, there you go, all bases covered and wallet fully empty

[fossil sentinel]

Not gonna lie, I like the nostalgic hit of the dpad on top rp6, but I know it's gonna wreck my thumb

[tired cargo]

"Now I can finally play some games!"

checks for news about upcoming devices immediately

[candid ridge]

Odin 3 Max + Thor Lite could be a sweet combo for me, but I would really prefer my clamshell edc being dpad-top

Said before that I’m not entirely comfortable spending a lot of money on an edc, but seeing the videos on the Thor have really made me impressed with how even better the Thor ended up being than I already thought it’d be

I have a black and blue New 2DS, and that device is already almost entirely black, so I don’t mind being forced into just black for the Thor Lite

Still a very nice color

[fossil sentinel]

I consider a combination of power, size and budget, it seems the 6 is the ideal upgrade for a rp4 owner. Question being is 12G RAM is the least if I want to go with for switch and winlator?

[candid ridge]

12g is absolutely recommended for Switch and Winlator ye

[honest dust]

I mean, technically the RP6 is smaller, once you slap a grip onto it you are probably lugging around something bigger tho

[candid ridge]

I wanna see a proper comparison between the RP5/G2 and the 6 once reviewers get RP6 review units.
Mainly curious about how much bigger the ergo bumps are and if the controls are more inset at all and by how much.

The new design still looks a bit more inset than the 5, but it’s hard to tell from renders

[fossil sentinel]

Same, I want to decide after I see some reviews, downside would be probably missing the pre-order window

[candid ridge]

Yeah, but I think with Retroid especially, it’s not worth pre-ordering from them

They often have a lot of issues at or not long after launch

Helps that the price difference between pre-ordering and getting it retail isn’t too much

[fossil sentinel]

Hence why this sucker (me) bought 4 pro a month or two before they announced 5. I usually have bad timing for this type of stuff lol

[sick raven]

ur already ahead of many people by not buying rp5

[glossy ledge]

odin 3 vs rp 6. why do you need both?

[sick raven]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-face-you-get-what-gif-24340177

[glossy ledge]

software or hardware issues?

[cloud lagoon]

dpad top rp6 will be more ergonomic for dpad centric games than the Odin 3, and viceversa

[tranquil mica]

So much handheld drama 😂

[violet gale]

I would rather get a Odin 3 and RP Mini / Classic for dpad games

[candid ridge]

Idk if both at the same time, but Iirc, they’ve had one of the two each release.
Usually hardware

[hot iron]

Will this chip run silksong via gamehub at 60fps?

[untold temple]

[true nexus]

Yep

[toxic locust]

Yes easily

[hot iron]

Nice! Also happy to be part of the Soulja Flip pilot program

[hot iron]

Even the 8gb one?

[snow tangle]

When does the preorder for the soulja pocket 6 go live?

[candid fern]

any word on a soulja slide?

[glossy ledge]

when you press start: it plays his song...

[snow tangle]

I like how it's been like 30 years but I'm pretty sure he only has that one song

[silent wolf]

It'll cost $3000 minimum

[glossy ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFIYGkROII

[swift spire]

Maybe all the Soulja flips are d1100's 💀

[sonic notch]

they are listed as sd865
my guess is they sold a ton on liquidation via moorechip without retroid knowing, he bought them to to flip for 400 but got called out and now is trying for the 200 which still nets him some profit
doubt he payed more than 100 each on liquidation if thats what happened

oh, its back up to over 400 now

hes also selling a kinhank56 for 175 dollars
and someting called a gamebox plus, which has the magicx logo on it

[quiet lintel]

Soulja Boy should have rebadged a Playdate. Missed opportunity smdh

[silent wolf]

Can't stuff a billion roms into it to up the price on that one

Flip that soulja boy it is

[serene cedar]

The hinges are being fixed using his Soulja-glue (sold separately).

[balmy quartz]

This is the definitive edition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSQIx0cfaHQ

[jovial nimbus]

I know this will sound kind of dumb to most here but has Retroid indicated they will sell a G2 RP6 at any point ?
Don’t get me wrong the SD 8 Gen 2 is amazing but at this point has been in a bunch of handhelds and the same old same old and just want to try something new

[sick raven]

when you start sampling nearly identical perf socs just to "try something new" you're becoming the benchmark guy

[bold needle]

Did the soulja flip already drop in price? Hilarious

I was wondering if he just buys them and "makes" them to order, that would be even funnier. Just like "omg, someone ordered one, let's order a Flip 2, flash it with our slightly modified firmware, and then ship it to our customer"

[jovial nimbus]

That’s OK , I like being Benchmark guy

But I also like 120hz OLED screens + bigger battery, it’s not only about the G2

[toxic locust]

G2 chip is cool new shiny chip with some better specs like newer android but I honestly don’t really care about Android version much anymore

[candid ridge]

I really do think they should use the G2 Gen 2 in more form factors though.
Retroid DS with G2 Gen 2 would be sick.
I also think the G1 Gen 2 needs to start being used outside of the RP Classic

That chip is a lot more powerful than one would expect, and it’s insane to me it’s still only on the RP Classic

[balmy quartz]

At least put it in something with sticks or sliders so people can take advantage of its power. The Classic does PS2 surprisingly well for a $100 device - but the Classic controls are a big handicap.

[mortal tinsel]

What's the real world difference between the G2 Gen2 and the 8 Gen2 tbh

Seems like not much

Like going from 8 Plus Gen 1 to 8 Gen 2?

[lethal quiver]

The benefit I see with the 8g2 is Linux support, the G2 Gen2 doesn't have any yet as far as I am aware

[west ember]

Its a barely marginal difference between the two in real world practice

Linux could be a possibility in the future, since its a OC 7+g3

[thick goblet]

https://youtu.be/mCyg_Q4_V3w?si=MMKT593sSwkC4rOy

[uneven fractal]

Where does 8 gen 3 sit?

[untold temple]

G3

[uneven fractal]

Exactly the same?

[untold temple]

nope, G3 overclocked gpu +-10%

[upbeat gate]

Impressive

[ruby canyon]

So 8gen2 squeezes just a tad higher on GPU side vs the G2gen2

Probably not noticeable outside specific use cases that really push the gpu

[untold temple]

exactly

cpu too

[ruby canyon]

Well I still feel the RP6 is still well worth it over the G2 even if the G2 is the new shiny thing

[untold temple]

ofc RP6 better

but u will wait it 2 months or 3

G2 u can get insta

[ruby canyon]

I have my RP4pro and playing through Skyrim. It's holding me over lol

[stone eagle]

Wait, Skyrim on the 4 pro 👀

Gamehub?

[ruby canyon]

Yea Gamehub. I can post something in the RP4 channel if you want

[stone eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-i-appreciate-you-pathtosuccess-appreciate-gif-5440528

[thick goblet]

For 10 dollar more, You choose
8 gen 2 over G2gen2. This is clearly no brainer.

[thick goblet]

How u play skyrim on RP4pro using winlator?

[thick goblet]

How gamehub's skyrim on RP4pro? will it be to slow?

[ruby canyon]

I'll post a video of the intro in the RP4 channel. Got to wait on youtube to upload

[keen marlin]

Meanwhile my Thor runs Skyrim perfectly but without dialogue audio 😭

[serene cedar]

There's a patch for that:

https://youtu.be/OqBTgDtzq1s?si=9QBeLkaEEzX5IcMi

[thick goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/live/Ey75pCQ8E2A?si=cMVGhC9pkzID-R2j

For people who are interested in RPG2.

[toxic locust]

Sir this is the RP6 channel

[quick abyss]

In his defense, all retroids looks the same

[thick goblet]

RP6 and RPG2 are similar. There are people who are interested in RP6 also interested in RPG2.
Thanks.

[sick raven]

lies!

[west ember]

Tbh, we legit could merge the two and there would be no difference lol

[sick raven]

rpg2 channel is dead

[west ember]

But man, the G2 actually looks really solid

just wish it was in a different form factor

[toxic locust]

I’d buy the g2 if it didn’t have the same ugly ass design of the rp5

[keen marlin]

Lite doesn't have wine 9

Only wine 10 that doesn't launch

[sick raven]

would you buy the souljaboy g2

[whole parcel]

yikes not a good look sweaty

[toxic locust]

Sweaty

[hot iron]

Is light purple RP6 the most attractive handheld of all time?

[merry anchor]

It is a very pretty colour

I have girl friends who would adore it if they saw it

[quick abyss]

Pre-Poll RP6 looked more attractive

[toxic locust]

No the silver is

Lilac is 2nd

[slender raven]

G2 being in basically the same shell is nice for people who have a bunch of accessories

[sick raven]

are there real life pics of the rp6? i wouldn't trust the render colors

surface finish can really change how the device looks

[cloud lagoon]

if there were you would have seen them by now

they haven't manufactured them yet, give them some time

this is earlier in development than the G2

[sick raven]

Yea just commenting about how people are in love with the light purple rp6

it looks like a hard color to nail

[cloud lagoon]

true

[balmy quartz]

I think they were going for Hannah Montana PSP, but we can't know if they nailed it.

[twin storm]

I’m going to keep saying that the original RP6 design with front buttons powered by a G2 should have been the play

Would have bought for sure

[sick raven]

yea weird how they went with s8g2 when they had the g2 available

idk how much the teams are separated between ayn and retroid

[quick abyss]

They should have offered a stick and dpad top version instead of 2 different products

[keen marlin]

Fake: anon has friends
Gay: anon is friends with girls

[ashen reef]

Do we know until when the RP6 will be on sale?

[toxic locust]

January probably

[twin storm]

2026

[ebon jackal]

I cannot decide on stick top or d pad top.

I think I would prefer stick top for ps2 GameCube switch Dreamcast n64. Which probably are the majority of the games I will play.

But I didn’t hate the stick bottom
On RP5. It was just ok.

So I don’t wanna swap to stick top just cause now I can and then end up hating it.

[ashen reef]

I mean you can use the stick as a "dpad" but not the opposite

[toxic locust]

That’s disgusting

[slender raven]

Doesn't work in a lot of games

[toxic locust]

I’ve had more situations where I had wished a device/controller had the dpad on top instead of vice versa

[quiet badger]

It looks like you already answered your own question towards the end

[ebon jackal]

But I might much prefer it.
Playing Metroid dread on the RP5 with stick bottom I was constantly thinking I wish it was stick top.
But does the Dpad become unusable at the bottom for D pad centric games like SF2 ?

[toxic locust]

IMO yeah

Bottom dpad is much more unbearable than bottom stick

[quiet badger]

Personally I would go with stick top for a device capable of playing up to switch and light PC. You state that the majority of games you'll play are stick centric anyways. You also seem to already have an RP5 for your dpad games

[ebon jackal]

I was planning on selling the RP5 to replace with RP6

[quiet badger]

One strategy you could do is just wait for it to be sold on Amazon, buy it from there and test out Stick Top (or Dpad top) and see how it feels, afterwards return it free of charge (make sure it's shipped by Amazon and within return window), then buy directly from Retroid for cheaper

[ashen reef]

Yeah not the best but better than cramping your hands when playing the higher end systems, especially since he prefers those

[toxic locust]

If you don’t care about feedback or tactility in a dpad then yeah sure I guess

[slender raven]

Games that require rapid, especially repeated inputs can't be tapped as quickly with a stick because you have to move your finger back to center

It's also cause of extra finger fatigue from heavy menuing

[toxic locust]

Indeed

[candid fern]

bottom stick has always been more bearable to me if I’m using dpad and stick equally

there was a while when I was playing a shitload of tetris on PS4, and then I tried playing on my Xbox Series controller and it just didn’t feel right and made my hand hurt

but I was also playing a lot of Session Skate Sim on my PS4, which is like the most intensive stick game I can think of, and that was fine lol.

it do be about the grips tho

[quiet badger]

The bottom sticks on a ps4 controller are a lot more inset than they are on any of these handhelds, so that's why it's more bearable (at least for me)

[candid fern]

true yeah

[ashen reef]

Bruh he wants to play n64 and upward, if he then wants to play some 2d games then whatever it bearable

[toxic locust]

Why is it such a big deal lol

[candid fern]

it’s not lol

[slender raven]

Oh right I forgot they stopped making 2d games when the n64 released. My bad

[toxic locust]

Smh

[ebon jackal]

I play multiple games.
I had a RP4pro and then sold it for an RP5.
And the biggest change from that I found, which I wasn’t really expecting was the ability to play switch meant I was playing a lot more switch.
So I imagine with RP6 I’ll do even more switch now.
But I do still like to play

D Pad
NES / SNES
Contra 1-3
Mario all stars 1-3
Mario world
Sonic 1-3
SF2 etc
Castlevania-3
SOTN
FF 4,5.6,7
Pokemon all til 3DS
Zelda NES SNES GB
SF2 / alpha
SF vs capcom
MK1-3

But I also play
WWE 2000
Mario 64
Mario kart 64
Mario galaxy 1 and 2
Bully
GTA 3, VC,SA
MGS1,2,3 PW
MGSolid
THPS1,2
Other ps1 games
Other Dreamcast games
Other n64 games

Modern

Mario kart 8
Metroid dread
Tony hawk 1+2
CTR
Zelda BOTW / TOTK
DKTF / DKC2
Hollow knight / SS
Shovel knight
Crash HD 1-3
RDR1
Skyrim
Paper Mario
Mario RPG
SF30th anniversary

[ashen reef]

If the main focus is stick centric systems then you should get stick on top, and if you play 2d stuff on the side you use either the dpad at the bottom or the stick. Thats it, i know that it feels ass to use the stick for dpad games but it's just a choice baised on what you play the most. Can't have both worlds

[slender raven]

I'm mostly poking at the idea of it being interchangeable or less necessary

[toxic locust]

It’s not this deep dude

[idle iron]

What kind of ergs situation with this boi?

[west ember]

Same as RP5

Or at least similar

[idle iron]

RP5 was really uncomfortable to me

Kinda thinking dpad bottom might be considerably more comfy

(For dpad centric games)

[serene cedar]

Since nobody has done an edit for the redesign...

[merry anchor]

Gimme a wine red

[sick raven]

give me psp god of war version red

[candid fern]

give me a (PRODUCT)RED like an iPod

[fiery barn]

Each RP6 comes pre-installed with the latest U2 album

Whether you like it or not

[merry anchor]

Bono's doing it to dodge more taxes

Somehow

[toxic locust]

At least it’s not nickelback

[fiery barn]

Oh man did they invade people's ipods at one point too?

I only remember the U2 debacle

[toxic locust]

Oh no it’s just the U2 as far as I’m aware, I’m just saying what i said back then lol

[balmy quartz]

I remember that my phone would start playing that damned song every time I got into the car.

[candid fern]

I really like hearing about what song plays like this lol. I used to get in a friend's car and it would always play A-Punk

[wild reef]

What is this new devilry?

[toxic locust]

iisu on rp6 gonna be litty

[restive trail]

I just realized the RP6 will have back buttons too

I don’t need it, I’m happy with my RP5, I don’t need it, I’m happy with my RP5…

(No but luckily I actually don’t need it, it’s mostly a shame I have to use a grip all the time now hehe)

[sick raven]

you didn't need the rp5 either but you got it

therefore you must also buy rp6

[restive trail]

sound logic IMO

[mortal tinsel]

It's a shame there's no top stick option for the G2

[west ember]

We only got it on the RP6 cause we effectively bullied retroid into it. Plus the G2 was already done, so that would've been more work remodeling and getting new shells done

still could've gave use the 120hz screen tho

[quiet lintel]

So how do you guys feel about the color choices? They seem like strange offerings to me. I'll miss my translucent blue. The G2's teal looks really nice. Orange on the 6 is decent, but lilac is a strange choice. If others like it though, that's cool. This will be my first time just going basic black though

[candid fern]

I love em

that lilac is so pretty. love the translucent buttons.

[toxic locust]

How well does MH4U run on 8gen2

[bleak herald]

https://youtu.be/0kOovkk9rDc?si=ng_qdnEfkxN-Lw5W

damn they really blacklisted Joey?

gotta be because of his criticisms of the G2.

[true nexus]

4x no issue

[toxic locust]

Everyone has blacklisted Joey

[toxic locust]

Lit thanks

[true nexus]

iirc it drops down to like mid 50s if you try 5x

[toxic locust]

Is that with or without optimization cheats

Cuz you can easily double performance with the cheats

[true nexus]

it's been a minute but pretty sure that was without

[bleak herald]

these companies really don’t like criticism anymore

[toxic locust]

Nah it’s not really that

Joey is just the king of absolute dogshit takes

[bleak herald]

I disagree 🤷‍♂️

[marble tangle]

I think the community needs both sides of the coin

Your ETA Primes are balanced by your Joeys

[toxic locust]

Criticism is good yeah, but not to the extreme Joey and Taki take it

There’s a difference between constructive criticism and petty criticism

[sick raven]

i only check russ videos and only really use the specs/objective parts

[west ember]

Criticism is important, but at times Joey can definitely take it too far over over small things that may not mean much

[true nexus]

tbh not really sure why he's surprised he didn't get the g2 since he basically said it was worthless before

[sick raven]

I actually don't care much about his personal opinions on the device because he has different priorities than me and that's ok

but joey's reviews were just whiny shit that wouldn't even apply to most people

or if it's specific to his device

like i think shipping damage? ok that sucks but get a refund

[west ember]

I often use Russ, TechDweeb, Retro Tech Dad, and sometimes Adin Walls to get more objective ideas with some subjective takes here and there

[toxic locust]

I don’t watch blame the community guy much anymore

Mostly just Russ, tech dad, tech dweeb, and Kei

[bleak herald]

Dweeb?

[sick raven]

dweeb is 98% entertainment only

[bleak herald]

Not for full-on deep dives right?

[toxic locust]

Tech dweeb

[sick raven]

tbf ive only watched maybe 2-3 vids from joey and dweeb

[bleak herald]

I’m aware of who he is.

[bleak herald]

I prefer Joey because he’s just blunt with the reality of the scene, I watch Dweeb for entertainment, and Russ to get full on dissections.

I’ll tune into Adin sometimes because of the production quality tho.

[sick raven]

russ points out issues all the time too

[bleak herald]

Russ is an elite level creator in the space.

[sick raven]

i'm not sure if people actually get to experience the "reality" off the device after watching a joey review. do they buy the device after the flaws are pointed out?

I read more of "i bought it anyways and all the huge flaws that were presented as absolute dealbreakers aren't there or a non-issue"

i don't watch many content creators because yea most are just shills

and if i just want a overview russ does it very well

[west ember]

Russ' videos are great for overviews and also for background noise to listen too, especially when it comes to his device comparison and such

[sonic notch]

A lot still do yes
Going into it knowing whats wrong is always better than being surprised

[celest pond]

Dweeb is not a reviewer. He farms feels and vibes and nostalgia and loves everything. Just today he puts out a video "this is the one to get" about the G2. I left a comment calling him out for his stupid cringy clickbait. Yeah it's the one to get, let's just ignore the same company is making the same exact handheld but better in a couple months but THIS is the one to get.

I disagree with Joey about a lot of things but at least he's real and believes what he says and isn't a shill.

Nobody should watch ETA prime, he's not a reviewer and he's not even entertaining like dweeb.

[quick abyss]

Are we watching the same videos

What you call constructive criticism is just reviewers turning cons about a device into stuff like “just okay” “takes time to get used to” “are not for everyone but some will like it” instead of actually calling out the flaws

I bet they’ll even find a way to make the RG ds look good somehow

They’ll probably even praise retroid for how they handheld the rp6 situation and how they did the best they could

[echo nymph]

which reviewers are doing that though?

[celest pond]

Reviewers are supposed to be on the side of the consumer, not the company. Harsh criticism is good criticism.

[cloud lagoon]

RG Slide comes to mind

just about everyone who bought one is like "yeah it's bad lol"

but that was almost never explicitly called out in reviews

[slender raven]

If everyone is blacklisting you, I wonder what the common denominator is...

[rain peak]

How long is the pre-order time? Didn’t find it on their homepage.

[slender raven]

I mean for many things that are subjective it really is just up to someone. I see many people list shit like the orientation of controls as a "flaw" when it's one of the most subjective things possible.

Screens not matching spec is a flaw. An OS crashing or having bugs is a flaw. Ergonomics you don't like is subjective.

He started that retroid section complaining that the "turquoise" color option is green based on a single photo.

Then he called that a possible quality control issue since it didn't look turquoise

[dawn comet]

To be fair that was newcast video and not a review video. But I get what your saying

[slender raven]

I mean I just thought it was a good example since it happened in the same clip

[dawn comet]

I like Joey expressing his opinions even if I disagree with many of them. Its a breath of fresh air compared to all the Yes Sir reviewers.

[toxic locust]

The problem is everyone else not me

[celest pond]

What it means is there is a smorgasbord of reviewers to choose from, and companies go shopping for others rather than deal with the harsh criticism and make better decisions/products. Welcome to capitalism.

Him being blacklisted just makes me trust him more honestly

[toxic locust]

[slender raven]

DNA is blacklisted from even buying from AYN iirc

[quick abyss]

I agree with everything except the ergo part.
It’s mostly true but sometimes it’s objectively bad ergonomics when you do triggers like on Thor.
It’s subjective though with the rp5 when you complain about stick usage on the rp5/ g2 when you willingly bought a handheld with the dpad on top.

And I gotta say Joey’s being fair by saying that the device is still good but it’s just not for him.

He’s simply always thinking from a perspective that’s saying “can this replace my portal or flip1/thor”.
if that’s not the case he’ll still try to rate a handheld objectively as he can and recommend it for people with a different use case or budget.

[celest pond]

Having any sort of opinion is condemned, you have to enjoy and recommend everything

[slender raven]

There's no such thing as an objective review.

[true nexus]

that's crazy lmao

[quick abyss]

I will be honest with you “subjectivity” often seems to be a veil some reviewers hide behind to attract too much negativity and to call out something without actually fully committing

[quick abyss]

There is not you’re right, I should edit my comment about “rate objectively” to “try to rate objectively”.

And I’m pretty sure Joey is aware of that and openly communicates it.
“Hey guys I have an Odin 2 Portal and a Thor and therefore I hold some handhelds to a higher than other reviewers”

That’s enough defending Joey for now though

Unless he pays me

[west ember]

Shifting back to reality, still not a fan of the new design :/. It still looks too much like the RP5 to me

For as funky and kinda fugly it was, the original design was more interesting to me. Also looked more comfortable

[echo nymph]

things could be worse, they could have created the retroid pocket 3 plus

[candid ridge]

Hopefully the new design will still be more comfortable than the RP5.
It looks like the controls are a bit more inset, and the ergo bumps are bigger, but that’s judging off of renders.

Would need to see a proper comparison between the two

[west ember]

We don't talk about that

The RP3+ was flat in all the wrong ways

[sick raven]

There are tons of shill reviewers but that doesn't mean joey is a good one because he's the opposite

[sick raven]

ok and a lot of reviewers go over stuff I can't care less about like it's a consideration/dealbreaker. Russ going over device thermals is one of them. The point is that the reviewers are bringing those up in the first place. What you think of their final conclusion whether it's acceptable or not it's up to you.

They give the info and their own opinion and you have to process whether it fits you

[candid ridge]

I will say myself that Joey is not as bad as I remembered, and he has definitely gotten better about communicating it being his subjective opinion.
I wouldn’t say he’s anywhere close to my favorite reviewer in this space, but I find his more unfiltered thoughts a very appreciated thing even if I usually don’t agree

Russ is the one I’ll generally go to for a more objective review overall

[sick raven]

Maybe, I've only watched few reviews from like a year ago

trying to watch one of his more recent ones

[candid ridge]

His Miyoo Flip Mini is a good one if you wanna see it.
I like what he says at the end where he says he find it hard to recommend bc of the price point, but also said he still really likes it and how great and fun it is to use, pop out for a few minutes with its small size, and if that sentiment is something that resonates with you to buy it

I definitely agree with the price being a bit high for what the device is

[torn swift]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-penguin-stare-interesting-pudgy-gif-7369438455274653557

[sick raven]

his mangmi air x review is fine, actually good

omg he does the thing where he points out a problem but then says it's fine for most people!!!!

[toxic locust]

[sick raven]

mangmi air x review is basically formatted identical to a typical russ review

[keen marlin]

joey and russ are two sides of a similar coin for me

[sick raven]

nope

[keen marlin]

nobody asked you

moving on

[sick raven]

uh huh

[toxic locust]

Lmao what

[keen marlin]

joey is so pompous but is technically right in a lot of what he says. he thinks of himself as a pure journalist and not a content creator. many of his reviews are harsh because he goes out of his way to be harsh

he wants it to improve the product regardless of any personal benefit to him or any relationship he keeps with the manufacturers

[toxic locust]

This has gotta be bait

[keen marlin]

russ is very methodical and investigative but for different reasons. he's very invested in the product for himself and others but reviews things from his own specific lens

if something is a big deal for him he presents it as a big deal in his reviews, but he's also optimistic about the scene itself and loves to see it grow i think

[toxic locust]

How about that RP6 yeah?

[keen marlin]

didn't realize this channel requests participants to be as dumb as possible wow

[torn swift]

I helped save Joey's life two times in Las Vegas and he never said thank you

[candid ridge]

Dpad top with orange is a bit tempting, but I don't know if I want it

[toxic locust]

I bought dpad top silver

[candid ridge]

Silver is the other color I love from the RP6.
I'm genuinely hoping the other companies start using the clear buttons that a good amount of the RP6 models use. Those buttons are awesome

[toxic locust]

Yeah silver is so sexy

Might as well just hibernate till it gets here

[candid ridge]

If I wasn't already considering an Odin 3, I'd get the RP6 in orange with dpad top in a heartbeat.
I can't describe exactly why the orange looks the best to me, but it's something about the specific tone of orange with the black buttons I find really nice.
And it just being a really fun color for a device

[toxic locust]

Gonna test drive gamehub on it

[candid ridge]

It's a render, so I think I will at least wait and see how it actually looks like in person through a video

[toxic locust]

Odin 3 was tempting but I decided against it

I prefer something with a dpad top

[quick abyss]

What do we think about the new design.

Does v1 or v2 silver look better?

[toxic locust]

V2 all day

[quick abyss]

I see what kind of man you are

[toxic locust]

[quick abyss]

Lucky you

[toxic locust]

V1 was butt ugly

[quick abyss]

Now they just need to bully retroid into making a classic flip

[toxic locust]

You had my attention at bully retroid

[brazen cedar]

Is this worth the upgrade from RP5?

[hollow crag]

only if youre doing a lot of gamehub/winlator gaming

and even then idk lol

[west ember]

If you want better Gamecube, PS2, Switch, and solid Gamehub/Winlator, yes

[quick abyss]

Just saw that part and I agree, I don’t even know why he put that in the video

[toxic locust]

I’d say so yes

[slender raven]

Some interesting old comments in light of the current Retroid/Anbernic discussion. #1385011384307421224 message

[twin storm]

Just realized today the only retroid handheld I still own (had several) is the flip 1 😆

[west ember]

I had most of them, but my main one is the RP Mini

[balmy quartz]

Only the six button RP Classic is tolerable. 🙃

[toxic locust]

I’ve owned a lot of retroids and hated all of them except the rp2S

And I ordered the RP6 🔥

[west ember]

I haven't tried the classic yet

But the Mini feels the nicest in my hand

[candid fern]

man, people talk about the mini a lot

[untold temple]

mini is goat

[west ember]

The Mini went from jank to goated once retroid fixed/gave us the better screen

[balmy quartz]

For me, the Mini is more bearable than the RP3/4 was, but I almost never use mine because I can pick up almost any other similarly-powerful device I own and it'll be more comfortable than the Mini. And those loud-ass buttons ...

[west ember]

Is it odd to say I never found the buttons loud

[balmy quartz]

The 6-button classic at least fulfills a unique function - Sega face buttons with a screen that is better than the RG ARC.

[west ember]

it also can play the games the Arc wanted too better

[balmy quartz]

Yeah - if you want to do any Saturn at all the RP Classic is the clear winner.

I originally got my ARC for Genesis/Megadrive, though - so I was okay with the power level, at least at the price I paid for it.

[cloud lagoon]

modding the buttons on the mini is worth it

I did it on mine and it completely transformed how it feels to me

[twin storm]

I sold the RP mini and after I finally got the RG cube. To me, it’s way more comfortable and I really like the stick top and dpad feel more than the mini dpad.

Personal preference though for sure

The mini is a beast of a little machine. Punches way above what it should.

[rain peak]

I read on Reddit, that there actually isn’t any screen out there, that has the specs of the RP6, or at least what Retroid claims it to have.
Do you guys think there’s any risk, retroid would pull the same move as with the RP classic v1?

I’m just … hesitant since I’m really interested in buying the RP6 but don’t want to get scammed.

Or not the classic, the other one, the small one, don’t remember the name rn

[west ember]

Don't take reddit at their word completely. For all we could know, they've probably gotten a custom screen or there likely is a screen that can produce the results, just not openly out in the web for people to tear apart and nitpick.

Also, you're probably reading into the RP Mini fiasco

Which ended up being the screen used in the RP Classic and Mini V2 as they were trying to alter the screen to do 4:3 scaling, when it was made a much different resolution and scale

[toxic locust]

I wouldn’t worry about it. 16:9 1080p is, if the not the most common, then the 2nd most common aspect and resolution for displays on the market

[west ember]

And one that produces 120hz isn't uncommon at all

[candid fern]

I feel like the only risk is that the first batch of stuff might have some rare issues

[balmy quartz]

I think sourcing a 1080P 16:9 panel is not outside the realm of possibility. The mortgage screen, however, does not exist and will never exist.

[balmy quartz]

Clacky cheap-ass buttons is what it will have.

[slender raven]

They also said after the rp mini controversy they were investing in making screens

[celest pond]

You know there's no risk at all if you just don't pre-order? Saving like 10 or $20 on a retroid device isn't worth their shenanigans

[rain peak]

Yea, I’ll probably wait it out.

Thank you all for your answers. I know Reddit is its own kind of place, that’s why I wanted to ask around here.

And yes I was referring to the mini one.

We’ll see, I’m kind of looking forward to the device as I wanted to get the RP5 a few months ago but wasn’t happy with the performance. (Or in better words, it wasn’t what I was looking for in terms of power)

[west ember]

I would definitely say wait it out to see how it goes, but between it and the G2, you're not pressed for higher performance if you're looking for it.

[rain peak]

That’s true, the performance was surprising, but 120 Hz and potential Linux compatibility plus more ram and internal storage are really intriguing to me, especially for that price range

[west ember]

Ye ye

[rain peak]

Is there a device with this chip, or a similar strong and compatible one, with a 4:3 screen?

[untold temple]

Nop

[west ember]

Unfortunately not yet. Most are 16:9, with very few exceptions

But those exceptions are using the G3x Gen 2 and usually have much different screens (pocket ace is 3:2, DMG is 31:27, etc.)

[rain peak]

A 4:3 device with 120 Hz and a head phone jack and I’d be … very happy

[west ember]

You and me both

[untold temple]

477m closest but it sucks

bc mtk

and weird price (bс metal)

[rain peak]

Also inline shoulder triggers like..

[real harbor]

476h

[untold temple]

weak asf

he need equivalent to this

[real harbor]

Good enough for every system actually worth emulating on Android. Once you go up to sixth gen and above proper pc emulators smoke the mobile offerings

Real pcsx2, etc

[untold temple]

[rain peak]

476H with the other chip would’ve been cool.

[untold temple]

G2

[rain peak]

Might be, but pocketability and battery life are horrendous, my steam deck OLED is good but not exactly easy to bring with me

[real harbor]

I have yet to find an actually pocketable handheld that can play ps2/gc and up well on either side of the android/x86 fence, and battery life while playing ps2/gc is comparable between the android handhelds and the deck - the x86 bad battery life reputation is always comparing like link to the past on snes on a retroid to Elden ring on a deck or something rather than apples to apples (low idle drain does mean Android handhelds have better battery life for like 2d pixel art retro systems though)

[rain peak]

I mean battery life seems to be promising on the G2 at least for GC, so I would hope it would be decent with the RP 6, too.

[rain peak]

I’m not happy with battery life with any game tbh even with TDP on 5 Watts.

[west ember]

GCN usually isn't the issue, more or less it's PS2. But that should hopefully be getting better soon with ARMSX2

[untold temple]

it promising on any scenario

0.8w less consumption vs 8 gen 2 on max possible load

[hot iron]

The RP6 made me realize that i enjoy wanting things more than having things

[merry anchor]

mood

[toxic locust]

real

[twin storm]

Made me realize I already have handhelds that I enjoy that do the same thing.

[west ember]

[limber surge]

easy, just want them without buying them

[candid fern]

my entire relationship with retro handhelds is reading and watching every review and then rarely buying one

[plain cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/50centavos-50cent-bling-bling-smh-ok-then-gif-14468332

John when he playing the game and battery life sucks 🤣🤣🤣

[candid ridge]

I don't intend on buying very many handhelds. I just wanna have like two or three that will play the games I really want to play.
But I also very much enjoy discussing these handhelds even if I likely won't end up buying a good portion of these

For the time being, I'm decently content with my 35XX SP

[robust jetty]

This is how it started for most of us

"two or three" and "not very many" becomes a very fluid definition after a while..

[candid fern]

I just already have other expensive hobbies that I can not lol

[smoky needle]

The nice thing is you don't need to buy them to discuss them 🫂 The discussion is free and the friends made along the way as well

[toxic locust]

I started out in that "i only need one or two" mindest when I first got into the hobby. then a year or so in I essentially started collecting them just to collect them, but now I'm selling a lot of them off and wittling back down to 2 or 3 devices

[twin storm]

This is the natural handheld cycle

[limber surge]

i'm not really sure when i started going overboard

probably with the xx series

i doubt i can go back to just a few, the different form factors are just too much fun

[celest pond]

Me fr

[timid falcon]

You guys buy 8g or 12g of ram btw? Think I might get the 6 instead of the G2 ... Lol

[toxic locust]

12gb for the increased storage only

[slender raven]

I've got 30gb android games...

[toxic locust]

yeah like i said beforethese days i feel like 512gb should be standard

[timid falcon]

Say less

12gb it is

Thank you

[candid ridge]

The 12gb ram is definitely appreciated for high-end Switch like TOTK, but the storage is even nicer

I find the storage more problematic than the ram oftentimes

[toxic locust]

I'd be all over an 8gb ram 512gb rom rp6

[west ember]

Again, 256 to 512gb storage need to be the minimum nowadays

128 isn't enough

[balmy quartz]

If you're doing emulation with games through, say, PS2, stored on the SD card, 128GB internal works. But if you have any interest in Android gaming or higher-end stuff, 128GB is quite restrictive.

[candid ridge]

128 is alright for a companion handheld that plays older systems (Hoping my clamshell to replace the 35xxSP as my secondary device and EDC will play N64/Dreamcast/PSP well), or for what Burrito said, but definitely not enough if you plan to play higher-end systems

[balmy quartz]

That's why I don't understand stuff like the Ayaneo Pocket Fit with SD 8 Elite and 128GB of storage. You'd ONLY buy that for higher end stuff and top-tier performance in the big Android gachas - and there's no storage.

[toxic locust]

pulling an apple with that storage man

[candid ridge]

So weird how Odin 3 did it too

I think at the least, if you’re going to have an 8gb 8 Elite model, have it be 8/256 at the bare minimum

[robust jetty]

Odin 3 had no lower tier SKUs with weaker chipset

[balmy quartz]

Just a cheaper variant to lure you in to upsell you, most likely.

[robust jetty]

Odin 3 Base is basically a streaming device and before the RP6 there also was no stick-top 120Hz OLED competitor

[candid ridge]

I do think the base has more reasons to exist now with the surprising rate improvements to Switch emulation on the chip have been coming + for streaming, but I think the 128gb storage is super unfortunate

[sick raven]

you can still play ps2/gamecube on it fine

[balmy quartz]

Odin 3 base is the device for playing big Android games, but only if you want two installed at a time. 🙃

[toxic locust]

buying an odin 3 for streaming is kinda crazy

[robust jetty]

I did..

But I got the Max, just in case (I know I will experiment with it, but actually only use it for streaming)

[smoky needle]

Yea, 128GB internal is very limiting

[candid ridge]

It’s excellent for streaming, but I personally don’t want to only buy it for streaming

[balmy quartz]

Honestly, options should have been 8/256, 12/512, 16/1T, 24/1T

[robust jetty]

Right now, RP6 8GB with stick top is the better/more sane variant for streaming only device

[candid ridge]

Max is the main one I’m considering, though depending on how much Winlator I actually end up doing, and if I get a good Mini PC for gaming + streaming to my O3, Pro might actually be good enough for my needs

[robust jetty]

The nice thing about streaming to those devices is 1080p really isn't demanding (for a moderately modern PC)

[candid ridge]

That’s very true.
Pro sku would still be perfectly good for Indie Gaming on the go in Gamehub/Gamenative, and I’d have a PC at home I can stream from to play the more demanding stuff.

The thing is, I’m considering the Max not just for more ram, but the 512gb storage

[robust jetty]

Yeah, storage is the big one

[candid ridge]

If it was 12/512 for Pro instead, 100% would’ve been my choice

[robust jetty]

Yeah, same here

But I was there for the campaign launch and I even thought about getting the Pro anyways, but the SF Pro was 10$ off whilst the Max was 20$ off, so at SF prices the price difference really wasn't in favor of the Pro

If I were to buy today I'd probably lean towards the Pro

[limber surge]

yep, same for ayn

[robust jetty]

Or maybe even completely ignoring it and going for RP6 with stick top instead

[limber surge]

that jump from 256 to 1tb is too annoying, they had it right with the portal

[robust jetty]

It's 1 SKU too many tbh

Pro should have been the Base

But that was weeks/months back

With the RP6 being the way it is the O3 Base is kinda pointless

For streaming only just get the Retroid imo

Value just makes more sense

Unless, if they can deliver 4k120 through USB-C, then there's a point for the O3 Base.

Cause there's basically 0 devices that can do 4k120 TV Moonlight on a budget.

Cheapest option right now is like a Minisforum 760 Slim MiniPC for 4k120. Ignoring the Xbox Series S which is a bit whacky

[ruby canyon]

I mean based on what this user posted in the Retroid discord, 128gb is definitely not enough. If this is accurate, you get even less with Android 15 on the G2.

[true nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/oof-gif-9547349843497230146

[plain cipher]

🙆🏾‍♂️

[toxic locust]

I want my rp6

[candid fern]

I want your rp6 too

[hollow crag]

If we're passing it around, I'll have a turn holding it

[celest pond]

I'll have a go at it

[quiet lintel]

I want more colors of the RP6

[timid falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-jumping-jumping-spongebob-happy-wooooo-gif-3391112725106361395

One day less from start of shipping

[tired cargo]

A metallic colour that changes with the viewing angle would be neat.

No idea if that's even feasible for a device like this, though.

[candid fern]

an iridescent handheld in general would go craaaaazy

or like a lenticular skin

[quiet lintel]

I'd imagine not in plastic. I wouldn't want a metal device that heavy and that spreads all that heat everywhere on the device. Would be a super nice color though

[dense lava]

Won’t dpad on the bottom make retro gaming less comfortable? I am quite happy with dpad on top for rp5. I worry moving onto a rp6 with the stick and dpad switched.

[limber surge]

you can just buy the dpad top one

[candid fern]

but then what would we talk about

[balmy quartz]

Now that Retroid has opened the floodgates, so to speak, I wonder if we can get more custom configurations without having to open the device ourselves. I'd like a stick top RP6 in orange with Xbox/Android button layout, myself. Or an Odin 3 in Xbox/Android.

[azure token]

so you mean your rp5 can play zelda botw?

[wild reef]

I never understood the need to play triple A games, that are definitely meant to be played on big monitors, on a portable handheld

[toxic locust]

Cuz I don’t want to be stuck in a chair playing at my desk to play those games

[merry anchor]

Me personally, I haven't been able to sit down for the last 19 months or so because of a few surgeries, so I have to play on my desktop while standing

Whereas I can use my Steam Deck while in bed

[toxic locust]

Plus it’s nice taking a chunk out of some turned based games at a cafe in morning

[wild reef]

I mean it's fine, whatever makes you happy! But I just never understood >< to me handhelds are for tactical games, Pokemon, Animal crossing, 2D Zelda and so on 💙

[toxic locust]

I mean yeah it’s really just to each their own. I grew up with handhelds and never had a desktop or home console of my very own until I moved out of the house. And even tho I have a high end desktop pc and a series X I still much prefer playing on my Ally or other handheld. Or at least using remote play or moonlight

[rain peak]

Is this chip gonna be somewhat similar decent to the one in the Konkr Pocket Fit? Or rephrased: do both handhelds do a somewhat similar good job?

[nova crystal]

Pocket fit is a better performer chip than the on in Rp6. But both can do the job done

[west ember]

Both can get the job done, but the Pocket Fit's chipset is way stronger

[merry anchor]

SD 8 Gen 2 should be more than enough if you're not going above PS2

[rain peak]

What about gamehub and Wii (or above of the same trademark) emulation?

[clever idol]

any reason to get the ayn odin mini over the retroid pocket 6?

[true nexus]

Aside from aesthetics, Odin 2 mini would probably be easier to pocket, that or if you really want a super bright screen

[toxic locust]

No

Screen is a hog and murders battery life

[clever idol]

fair enough

[quiet badger]

More pocketable and better aesthetics, but either the same or worse in every other way

If you really like the Vita look then you'd be better off waiting for a possible O3 mini

[rain peak]

Nvm, just watching videos on the Odin 2 devices answered my question.
This device will be mostly perfect for what I’m looking for in a device, especially at that price point. Hopefully there are no major dealbreakers

[true nexus]

Retroid pricing is really strange rn

[limber surge]

[dawn comet]

Cause originally they both G2 and RP6 were suppose to launch at the same time and therefore both early birds end at same time. But since the RP6 was launched later, the early bird price is still up.

Still dumb none the less

[true nexus]

I'm pretty sure the early bird pricing for the rp6 was always going to last longer though, it only ends when they start shipping next year

[sly glen]

They still didn't take down/reduce the price on the rp5

[quiet badger]

Retroid with the RP5:

[balmy quartz]

Is that the official Anbernic RG556 carrying case there?

[twin storm]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-confusion-gif-10824788

[carmine wraith]

One is available and a known quantity while the other is more of a gamble. Hence the price difference.

[slender raven]

It's more that the pre order bonus is over for the g2 since it's been shipping for a while now

[tired cargo]

Retroid considers their own product a gamble?

[hardy falcon]

Got this ad on Instagram and thought what if Retroid added this as a third option for the RP6

[merry anchor]

I wonder what sticks those are, because the caps look concave

Either way, whoever makes a handheld with the left stick on the bottom and right stick on top is a fucking psychopath path

[hardy falcon]

They also have L1/R1 as shoulder buttons and then L2 and R2 on the back so a very interesting layout

[analog hazel]

i think thats just the SF3000, rebranded/dropshipped

[merry anchor]

Looks like it

[frozen badger]

Holy cow, that’s a major rip-off

That thing’s worth like $15 max

[silent wolf]

That sure is Link alright

🤭

[hardy falcon]

Yeah the majority of ads are just rebrands or drop shopping

[agile moat]

What is the (presumed) state of linux on RP6?

[limber surge]

odin 2 systems support rocknix so that shouldn't be a problem for the rp6

[untold temple]

they just port odin2 work when get rp6

[bold needle]

This theme for what I assume is emulation station looks hilarious, I'd genuinely consider using it lol. Makes me wanna make a theme with all the most unhinged image choices possible

https://youtu.be/FybA0SaL0nI the guy in this thumbnail for NES

[silent wolf]

Genius idea

[stray veldt]

Just found out about the exploding RP5. Disappointed by the lack of doom/shitposting about it here... 😔

[untold temple]

this dumb guy use macbook 60w charger

[toxic locust]

Wait so you’re telling me I can’t use a 120w charger to charge my RP6 in 10 minutes?

[true nexus]

I mean I don't think the fast chargers should be an issue though right? It should only pull as much power as it needs

[untold temple]

in perfect scenario yes, in real world with bunch of different charging protocols and bms types/configurations no

[agile moat]

BMS is completely controlled by retroid. The charger sets no aspect of the maximum charge rate.

If it explodes, it's 100% on retroid for charging the battery too fast, even if the user does something stupid like wrap it in blankets.

(as it should just refuse to charge)

(Or of course their battery maker, various battery makers have had batteries that fail even if treated well)

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AIR1401.pdf I recommend

[untold temple]

Retroid is not to blame for the fact that the user is an idiot ...

Absolutely any device can be damaged or burned out by using a non-original / not suit charger (with original also but chances X times lower)

[agile moat]

As someone that's actually designed a BMS, that's not how any of this works.

If you connect a compliant USB charger to the device, it should at worst not charge.

[untold temple]

Okay, I understand that you are completely out of the loop, and I won't waste my time (pink glasses typical)

[slender raven]

There's always a chance of random failures anyways. That doesn't require blame

[silent wolf]

It was shocking to see but most talk I saw was trying to figure out why

Definitely a lesson in being mindful of how you charge things

[celest pond]

There's a difference between reasonable expectations of how a consumer will use a product and unreasonable expectations. It is reasonable to expect a consumer to try to charge their device on any charging outlet that they have. It's not reasonable to expect a consumer to throw it in their microwave. One is the fault of the manufacturer, the other is the fault of the consumer. Do you see the difference? @untold temple

[untold temple]

both on dumb user

[celest pond]

Okay so you don't see the difference. Are you being purposely obtuse?

[untold temple]

Any warranty agreement has long stipulated that if the cause of the breakdown was the use of a non-original charger, this is not covered by the warranty.

[celest pond]

Okay so we're talking about different things. You're talking about binding legal agreements, I'm talking about morality and ethics.

[untold temple]

[celest pond]

[untold temple]

https://tenor.com/view/meghan-yeah-what-whaaat-whaat-gif-22612591
pov: give me new console, im dumb but that ur company fault

[celest pond]

Using a different charger than the one provided is not stupid

[untold temple]

not stupid when it identical

otherwise it is

[celest pond]

And you don't think the product should be able to handle being charged by a different charger? You think it blowing up is acceptable?

[untold temple]

Your stupidity increases the risk of burning out the device.

[celest pond]

Who's stupidity? The consumers? Or the designer of the handheld?

[untold temple]

What I think now is not important; I understand how electronics work

user ofc

BMS issue everywhere

phones, tablets, laptops, electric cars (any brand)

even highest quality original charger can fail

[celest pond]

When a device is charged with the incorrect charger, the worst thing that should happen is nothing as in it doesn't charge at all. The device overheating and possibly exploding is never acceptable no matter how it's charged. The designer of the handheld should use components that allow for the flexibility, instead of setting the consumer up for potential fire hazards.

[untold temple]

[celest pond]

[sick raven]

why are you arguing with benchmark guy? the guy doesn't understand words

he can only make simple comparisons of numbers or sizes of bars

[warm gazelle]

Will the RP6 be similar in size to the Odin 2 Mini?

[untold temple]

yh

[agile moat]

RP6 is a hair wider (10mm)

Otherwise basically the same.

[merry anchor]

I think the ergo bumps will make it a bit thicker, too

[carmine wraith]

And less easy to use the bottom control, whichever you choose.

[real harbor]

to be fair a non-compliant charger could exist

but essentially the charger sets the voltage and the device sets the amperage, and the PD standard means a charger shouldn't output any voltage that a device doesn't ask for

[agile moat]

The charging circuitry always at the least has a way of connecting the battery to the charger and disconnecting it. Even in the event they do not internally regulate the voltage and rely on setting the PSU to the correct precise voltage. You can break the port with a bad charger, but unless several things have failed, the battery will not be overcharged.

[agile moat]

This may not be the case for phones prior to perhaps around 2000, especially for NiCd/NiMH batteried phones.

[real harbor]

when things like this happen there's no guarantee the battery is actually the primary failure point - on the handful of 35xxSP failures we saw it was a problem with the usb port charging/otg combo port misinterpreting e-marked cables as a device needing the 35xxSP to provide current rather than receive it, but it wasn't the battery that was popping it was a component on the pcb - that thing popping + the heat generated could then cause the battery to fail as a secondary failure though.

"the battery may explode in the fire" after all

[agile moat]

Yeah, cause and effect can be fucky.

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AIR1401.pdf Thinking of.

[real harbor]

I think expecting it to handle a non-compliant charger outputting a voltage the handheld never requested is too high of a bar for consumer grade electronics tbh, for all you know something has shorted in a charger and sends 120v AC right through lol

at which point something in that handheld is gonna fry

[agile moat]

Fuses are unfortunately hard.

[real harbor]

I don't think I've ever seen a fuse on a 12v dc connection

but also unless the charger is physically broken I think the last time we saw anything that wasn't either 5v usb A standard or proper PD usb C was those old smart phone fast chargers from the pre-PD era

[agile moat]

Very early (pre 2K) phones would sometimes have actual constant current mains supplies that were just switched on/off.

[merry anchor]

I'm tempted to order an RP6 right now, since prices will go up quite a bit in the coming months

[agile moat]

Possibly.

Or just buy 16G of RAM and then sell it nearer the time

ponders if it's possible to purchase RAM futures.

[real harbor]

you could probably fit a few million worth of ram in a coat closet

[knotty pebble]

The ergonomics on the RP5 without the grip made the DPAD top choice better for me.

[twin storm]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-home-alone2-lost-in-new-york-concierge-tim-curry-gif-27290801

[wise fulcrum]

what's this about ram prices going up

[agile moat]

Ram prices are going up. A lot.

AI shitheads bought up a goodly fraction of the global supply.

I had this bookmarked for a new system.

And yes, this is going to add to the prices of handhelds shortly.

[toxic locust]

They didn’t buy a fraction they bought the whole damn stock

[agile moat]

I mean, no. But looking at the various large AI places, >>50%.

[celest pond]

It was OpenAI(chatGPT), who supposedly secured a deal with Samsung and Hynix for 40% of the world's dram supply. It's important to call them out by name.

Ram pricing is unlikely to recover for a very long time, probably a year or longer possibly two. Supposedly this will affect GPU pricing as well although not as drastic but still probably a 10 to 20% price hike is coming.

[toxic locust]

Ngl gpu market is pretty stagnant

[agile moat]

Easy $100/16G conservatively on GPU/handhelds/... going forward once stocks run out, or people decide to take some profit

[toxic locust]

I have a 7900xt and it plays pretty much any game I want 1440p maxed at at least 60fps. And at the current rate I buy new demanding AAA games I don’t see myself buying a new dedicated GPU for a long while

[celest pond]

The market is clearly shifting towards high-end hardware becoming too expensive for the average consumer. These companies make the mistake thinking gamers will follow them wherever they go, no matter what it costs. They think we will shift to subscription services for cloud gaming, but what really is going to happen is developers are going to make easier to run low-end games for the hardware people can actually afford.

AAA games are so incredibly unoptimized and filled with bugs that they're not even worth playing at release anyways. Borderlands 4, Monster Hunter Wilds are examples of this.

[toxic locust]

Man I love MH it’s in my top 3 favorite franchises but MH wilds man… like damn…

[stray veldt]

It's funny reading all these people trash the Steambox specs while I'm sitting here blown away by the peformance of the 6800u handheld I just got

[dawn comet]

Apples to oranges. Something that is portable is going to be compared differently to a stationary gaming device.

[robust jetty]

iirc indications and history are sadly more talking about like ~4 years for it to normalize..

[stray veldt]

I wasn't saying a handheld and a desktop (albeit mini) should be judged by the same criteria, I just think it's funny how little power it apparently takes to satisfy me on PC

[toxic locust]

My bar is a lot higher when playing on a 32" 1440p 165hz monitor compared to a 6" 1080p handheld

[stray veldt]

my monitor is 1080p 75hz but i play everything at 60hz so i don't get used to anything better

[agile moat]

remembers back when 15fps was buttery smooth.

(OG doom)

[sick raven]

you freeze your butter?

[agile moat]

https://youtu.be/tGf4jdRbCuk?t=90 Played this ten years or so before Doom, as context.

IIRC it was 15fps on a linux PC with 486/33. 1993ish.

It's wild that the first half of my computing life (starting at above computer) increased in single core CPU perf by a million times. Second half by ten.

[thick goblet]

ZX81 is a dinosaur micro computer using only use membrane keyboard and got 1K or 16K extension.

[agile moat]

Keyboard was literally worse than a on-screen-keyboard with no haptics

[violet gale]

Thinking about getting the dpad top model because it resembles PSP better and I play mostly dpad centric games (so far). But RP6 has 8 Gen 2 so I should probably play higher end system on it like GameCube and PS2. For those systems stick top is probably better. Which model did you all pick and why?

[celest pond]

Personally I see no value in a mid-sized handheld like this, I would rather go small and portable like a clamshell GBA SP style or just go full on large size for maximum ergonomics and screen size. If I was going to buy this though, I would probably go stick up top. Performance level largely determines which should be prioritized and if a chipset can handle the entirety of generation 6 emulation that's a lot of games that require analog stick preference. In that case you should relegate d-pad games to a separate device in my opinion.

Or you can skip all that nonsense and buy the Odin 3 portal (with grip) which is what I'm going to do. Hopefully we have turnip drivers by then.

[violet gale]

Yeah it’s indeed at a weird spot even though we were getting only SD865 at the same price point just a few months ago. I would probably prefer a $150 RP5 to this since I don’t play much higher end stuff and even SD865 can handle majority of PS2 and GameCube upscaled.

[celest pond]

Yeah I would say if you really want a device that prioritizes d-pad and is this size with presumably an OLED screen the 8 gen 2 is probably overkill for your needs, but is that really a bad thing? It wastes a little bit of money I guess. You can always pick up an rp5 used from somebody, or wait until another company makes something similar with a lower chipset which is just a matter of time.

[violet gale]

The price is pretty good yeah I think what I am going to do is to get the dpad top model with a grip. Put the grip when I am playing stick centric games

[celest pond]

Sounds like a good plan

[toxic locust]

different strokes for different folks

[merry anchor]

i'm stroking my shit rn

[twin storm]

The RP6 is really only for folks that don't already have something similar. I personally think dpad top with an 8gen 2 device this size is silly, but I know a fair amount of people disagree with that

I don't think this will sell well

[hot gorge]

it's not silly, playing indie games at 1080p 120hz is a worthy usecase

[merry anchor]

D-pad top woman?

[twin storm]

Autocorrect, ffs

Fixed

[sick raven]

platformers are dpad games and there are plenty that benefit

also they're great to play on this screen size

modern metrovania/platformers

[twin storm]

Like the person above said, not sure you’d need an 8gen2 and an RP5 or similar will probably be enough, even for most switch platformers

[sick raven]

it's not

even 8 gen2 isn't enough for stable 60+ fps for some games, either switch or winlator

[untold temple]

gen2 show the same as original hardware

above => over original

[dawn comet]

I am more excited by prices of older chips going down. The dream of sub$100 PS2 device is getting closer.

[agile moat]

inb4 36MB of RAM = $100

[celest pond]

Nobody has talked about how screwed this handheld is now with ram and storage going up, considering this device's entire identity revolves around being an Odin but slightly cheaper

🫡

Press F to pay respects

[toxic locust]

which is screwed more, the device that caps out at 12gbs of ram or the one that caps out at 24gbs

[celest pond]

The one that came out after the price hikes

[quiet badger]

Those other handhelds would also see an increase in price, so price difference would stay the same

[warm gazelle]

What're the chances that the RP6 buttons will be able to fit the 5?

[silk burrow]

whats happening to ram? why are the prices going up

[balmy quartz]

Weird AI is buying up all the RAM.

[quiet badger]

Shouldn't affect anyone who already placed their order (unless Retroid decides to refund everyone's orders to sell at a higher price)

[silk burrow]

that would be so ass but it wouldnt make sense hahaha

[warm river]

So far it only seems to be effecting desktop full size PC DDR5 I haven't seen any other price jumps at all. Like even mini PC's, and laptops with DDR5 havent gone up, so I doubt it will effect handhelds.

That being said I just saw a listing on FBM for 64gb of corsair DDR5 USED for 800 bucks

[echo nymph]

they will go up at some point

[warm river]

I doubt it, but we will see. I think if they were gunna go up they would have already.

[quiet badger]

Probably already secured a big enough supply of ram to satisfy preorders so they don't need to raise prices yet. When that supply runs out though...

Or signed some contract to purchase ram at a set price that the ram seller can't break regardless of market changes

[warm river]

Or its not the same ram that has a shortage

[real harbor]

Demand is unfortunately fungible. If desktop ram gets silly expensive people will start using adapters to stick laptop ram in server racks until it’s just as expensive too.

Ditto consumers priced out of gaming desktops buying gaming laptops instead, increasing demand for laptop ram.

Also ram manufacturers will lower supply of lower priced sodimm and lpddr to focus on desktop ram if there is a price delta.

It takes time for those kinds of reactions to occur but they will.

The worst part is that a lot of this crunch is due to manufacturers already having pivoted to making hbm ram for ai data centres which we cant even use in a standard personal desktop in a useful manner once the bubble pops and it’s used value approaches zero

It’ll just be an absurd amount of e-waste

[true nexus]

Am I going crazy or is the position of the background image slightly different for dpad top vs stick top

[main slate]

it is not, you're going crazy

[true nexus]

Nah man somethings off

[violet gale]

This is what happens when there is no updates for a couple of weeks

Play some games

Or check other devices news

[true nexus]

You're taking this more seriously than I am

I just noticed this while I was looking through the colors

[frail rose]

So I actually don't have a 16:9 emulation handheld. Because I mean all the way up to PS2 I like to use 4:3 screens. Will the RP6 be able to run Wii U games? I know PS3 is asking for a bit much, even though PS3 emulation is good on PC right now. But if this could run Wii U games I might take the plunge. (wii + PSP + Wii U).

[wise fulcrum]

check Odin 2 emulation vids

if it can run Switch well then surely Wii U won't be a problem (only reason it would be is the lack of emulator maturity)

[twin storm]

Cemu on android is still pretty new. Some games work.

[true nexus]

Apologies for conspiracy posting again but this chat is pretty dead so I'm doubling down. The black, orange, and light purple colors seem to be the only dpad top skus with perfectly aligned screens. The silver one does not line up. Why does this matter? It doesn't

[merry anchor]

You know what, Bennie? You're right

You're so right

I did it just to upset you

[true nexus]

||nah but you do actually see it right?||

[merry anchor]

I'm almost tempted to say no

But yes, I've seen it since your first example

[hot iron]

I foolishly bought a Flip 2 when I should have waited and bought this what to do

[true nexus]

Return or sell the flip 2

[rare echo]

I will sell the Flip2 once we see reviews for the RP6

[violet gale]

I was thinking about getting a refund or replacement and sell flip 2 because it has a crack but I have been using it quite a bit recently and love it. Flip 2 has fallen out of favor since Thor came out but I think it’s still an amazing device. So easy to carry around without a case and comfortable for both stick and dpad centric gaming (for my hands at least).

I might still get a RP6 instead if the reviews are good. But for now I am in love with the Flip 2. There are very few powerful clamshell devices while there are many powerful horizontal devices

[twin storm]

For me clamshell is equivalent to a portable vertical
Hard to beat if it works for what you’re playing

[thick goblet]

Yes, between Flip 2 vs RP6. Rp6 is clear winner as 8 gen 2 will have more playable switch and pc games especially if you got 12G ram version.

[violet gale]

It’s a clean winner in terms of power but SD865 is good enough for everything I play.

[thick goblet]

Yes, I agreed that if the games that you wanted to play can be emulated by S865 chipset you do not need extra power.

[true nexus]

Wonder if 8gb is enough to play monster hunter rise

[wise fulcrum]

Might actually get rp6 for better portability

Purple or silver?

[true nexus]

Silver is truth

[merry anchor]

The silver looks really fuckin nice lol

[vestal cradle]

Is 8gb enough for switch? I kind of want this for psp and switch

[true nexus]

Should be enough for the majority of the library

[thick goblet]

Yes 8G is good for most switch games. psp more than enough.

[true nexus]

Maybe totk might struggle but that game also just kind of struggles in general

[crystal cipher]

Totk crashed on my 8G thor, but runs fine on my 12G odin2

[steel wolf]

Given the RAM issues, the temptation to jump on this just to finally get a PS2 device with my DPad preference is high. However, given the short time window they have to retool the device after the redesign, a huge part of me is worried about early batch issues...

[steel wolf]

Like, at this point, the G2 is actually looking appealing, for the sheer fact that it hasn't shown any issues so far (as far as I'm aware).

How has retroid responded to people who had issues with say, the Flip 2 and the retroid pocket mini? I literally have the RP6 on my cart and the concern with early batch issues is what is keeping me from committing.

[echo nymph]

the chance of batch issues showing up will prob be a fair one going by the previous releases

[steel wolf]

Honestly disparaging. If it weren't for the RAM thing, I'd be super happy to just wait as usual. And it's not like there's any options to get as a DPad lover if I want this chip and 12gb RAM.

[jaunty urchin]

For what it is worth.. I was a pre-order flip2 customer who ended up with a hinge crack. Retroid was quick to respond to my message, sent me a shipping label to return the cracked Flip2 to a local address. They offered to send me a replacement of whatever I wanted (RP5, FLIP2) and color choice. I switched to the Ice Blue Flip2, as that unit had less reports of hinge issues. The whole process took several weeks, but I felt they were more than fair with the service they provided. AYN I had more of a mixed result. I ended up with a Portal 2 with a bad screen (35 days old) . I had to pay shipping back to China to get it repaired... not cheap.. and it took weeks of e-mails just for them to do that repair.

Keep in mind. Given how many RP6 were pre-ordered by now, I am guessing an order now will probably not be "first batch".. but that is just a guess

[steel wolf]

Thank you very much, truly. This is a huge improvement over how they handled the Pocket Mini. That and it possibly not being the first batch were what I needed to jump the gun on it. In the end, best to take the chance while prices hold.

[toxic locust]

The pocket mini situation was pretty one off