Retroid Pocket 6

[cloud lagoon]

the KTR1 guy was right all along

[toxic locust]

RP Classic

I don’t quite understand what you mean but as long as I get my silver with dpad on top

I feel kinda bad for Chris

[toxic locust]

Bro is probably having flashbacks to when he got doxxed

[slender raven]

So 70% of people got 12gb and a combined 55% got black or silver. It'd make the most sense that the 12gb version of both of those got both stick layouts

[toxic locust]

I see what you mean now

[crisp oak]

I feel like my odds of getting the light purple color with a D-pad top configuration I wanted are relatively low now >_<

[slender raven]

Until we have an official announcement, it's unclear which one will be the "main"

[tribal haven]

yeah if you want that retro look it'll have to be silver

silver looks absolutely fantastic with the original shell and configuration though

[toxic locust]

I’m team silver new design+dpad top

[storm surge]

What’s the sample size here tho… 10 folks who preordered? 😅

@sharp trellis what color had you preordered?

[slender raven]

It's pretty obvious they're not going to tell us the sales numbers

[storm surge]

Yes just being a smart ass

[honest dust]

It was absolute lunacy to expect high sales in 24hours like this

They dropped the device and put it up for pre-order. Only significant improvements are 120hz and more power, 75% will just stick with their RP5 anyway

Also 90% of potential buyers haven't even heard of it in the short time between announcement and pre-orders opening.

Aside from that with THOR, ODIN3 and KONKR the market is pretty saturated atm.

And to top it off many won't have $250 on hand to drop on the shiny new toy, they have to give people some time to have money on hand to buy this

So honestly they made this mess themselves to 60% at least and then throw away the orders they had.

Hope the redesign sells even less

[storm surge]

they made the preorder announcement the same day it went live more or less right? I didn’t even realize it was live before this fiasco happened

The entire launch seems half baked

[glossy ledge]

looks like they haven't even produced the item? just an artistic drawing? how do things work in this business?

[glossy ledge]

8gb vs 12gb.. how do we decide?

[haughty gale]

It was less than 24 hours before preorders opened I believe. I got a suggested YouTube video of a “New” RP6 announcement reaction video and in the video they said “preorders open Oct 27th” looks down at phone… date: OCT 27th

[toxic locust]

No the rest of the industry usually doesn’t take money until the product actually exists

[haughty gale]

Also there’s the problem that for a moment I thought the Oct 27th date was ONLY for the G2 preordering since that one was shipping now and RP6 wouldn’t ship until 2026.

[glossy ledge]

so what happens with the existing batch.. or maybe they will launch a few version? but wouldn't it cost more to do so?

[toxic locust]

There is no existing batch

People gave them money on a promise they turned around on in less than a day

[storm surge]

For comparison, this is the planning cycle for the Odin 3.

So retroid must have been working on this for some time to only have to scrap the entire design and start over

[toxic locust]

That’s what you get for being so involved with the community

[slender raptor]

Jan shipping actually meant 2027

[untold temple]

easy, if u wont switch heaviest games and x86 above 2019 (average) 8gb should be fine

u can use swap files with 8gb to make 12 or even more, but it will couse stutters when ram end

[balmy quartz]

Some of these handheld companies already have the product done before taking money. Others ... Well, they do this.

[toxic locust]

Listening to community feedback is good, but retroid is the perfect case study on why kissing the community’s ass is bad

[balmy quartz]

Was there ever anything other than a render for this? No engineering samples ... Nothing.

[toxic locust]

Nope

[storm surge]

Esp gamer bro’s asses

[toxic locust]

Always just been the render

[balmy quartz]

That's what I thought but just checking if I missed something

[sharp trellis]

Just at the hospital with the little one and I’ve discovered Retroids new design for them!

I’m gonna be honest, it’s pretty damn comfy

[balmy quartz]

Maybe I'm in a minority on this, but don't bother me with your "product" (or take my money for said product) unless you have it designed and are ready to produce it. Sure ... Build hype or whatever with your renders, but don't ask for my cash when that's all you got

[sharp trellis]

Nah we all agree it’s shitty

[haughty gale]

It has superior slanted button layout recognizing that a perfectly vertical diamond shape like the Xbox/PS is not ideal.

[cloud lagoon]

well I'm sure they made prototypes

those prototypes will now be thrown away I guess

[mild spear]

Welcome to the literal exact thing I’m talking about with Anbernic’s issues from poor QC being way more random in occurrence.

[sharp trellis]

You know I’m pretty sure someone modded one of these and played Dark Souls a while back

[mild spear]

You’re still getting it?

[toxic locust]

I plan on it yeah

[mild spear]

That’s what I’ve been saying.

[toxic locust]

As long as retroid doesn’t fuck up production units

[mild spear]

Yeah, I’d sooner wait for consumer units to get shipped before I even consider potentially getting one.

And even then I frankly still have no interest in the new design regardless of whether it’s D-Pad or Stick on top (yes, I’m aware it’s both, still wouldn’t be interested).

[crisp oak]

I was pondering it while out walking the dog and had an odd thought. What if Retroid goes through this whole process of redesigning and rereleasing the RP6, only to discover that the pre-order sales numbers don't change. Not because the original design or the revised design are bad, but because the market is simply oversaturated and global economic conditions are lackluster.

[cloud lagoon]

well then it might finally be time to unleash the mortgage screen, which is what people want and what would actually sell

[sharp trellis]

We’ll be in another recession with 400% tariffs by then

[mild spear]

Well it’s either that, or they’ll see way more orders happening and get confirmation bias for “the change being the reason”, even though they’re the ones that made pre-orders available only a couple days after the announcement of its active existence, only to then get “disappointed by low sales” only 10 hours after they effectively shadow dropped the thing.

[sharp trellis]

I’ve been silent for days on this part.. but what is this mortgage screen everyone is referencing?

[hollow crag]

i honestly dont see this whole thing increasing sales all that much

maybe once the device actually is out there and reviewed

but pre orders will not be great

[cloud lagoon]

the successor to the RP Mini basically, a new larger 4:3 OLED screen

[mild spear]

Same, either it’ll get way more sales because everyone interested didn’t actually know about it until after the polls went up (meaning the whole thing was a pointless mess from the start), or people won’t care regardless for the aforementioned “oversaturated market” issue.

[cloud lagoon]

it's been a great publicity stun though

[sharp trellis]

Ahhh I see. Yeah that’d be nice

[hollow crag]

RP mini 3 in green is my dream

[toxic locust]

Company realizes that regular annual releases with price creep to a small audience isn’t sustainable 🤯

[slender raven]

Honestly would have been a lot less of an issue if this was before pre orders opened too

[cloud lagoon]

I mean it worked until now

[slender raven]

People would definitely still argue but it'd feel less like being cheated out of it or whatever by a bunch of poor feedback.

[cloud lagoon]

RP5 sales were presumably very good despite people owning RP4/3+/3/2

[toxic locust]

Nah they would’ve fucked something else up if they went that route

Cmon this is retroid

[slender raven]

Rp5 was a massive power/feature bump at a good price.

[mild spear]

And clearly it wasn’t working for Anbernic, given how much less they’ve been doing this year vs last year.

[toxic locust]

No they just ran out of h700s

[hollow crag]

it worked until there were more manufacturers making more devices

[cloud lagoon]

that's fair, it is true that the higher up in power you go the more diminishing the returns

[mild spear]

Aka, Company’s only “learn their lesson” when they themselves mess up on it, instead of learning from others.

[crisp oak]

I'm hoping for an RP Mini 3 with the mortgage screen as well, but in that new light purple color! There's just something about that lavender color that I find really soothing to look at, and I do play games to relax so soothing is good in my book lol

[slender raven]

Despite the ram and os change, the rp5 was pretty clean. Rp classic was a pretty clean release too. I guess there was the tight case boot loop issue

[balmy quartz]

But at some point you reach the "good enough" threshold and there's no reason to buy a new device to play your PS1 and N64 games.

... Which is what we have with Retroid, I think.

[hollow crag]

oh man the new colours are so nice, its a shame that got overshadowed by everything else around this launch

[slender raven]

Yeah I can't imagine most people emulating like GameCube and below seeing a need to upgrade to an rp6

[balmy quartz]

The RP5 / Mini v2 were probably "good enough". And everyone else already ordered a Thor or Konkr.

[hollow crag]

that silver colour??

[slender raven]

The extra performance will help ps2 and possibly wii. Plus higher end emulation, shaders, native android games, etc.

[mild spear]

Pretty much the only real need for the RP6 is for anyone that was waiting for “Odin 2 level chips” in the below $300 range.

[toxic locust]

So like the base odin 2

[crisp oak]

The new colors are really nice! I like the light purple so much that I'm willing to get over my hangups about all-glass front devices and buy one anyway lol

[balmy quartz]

Ain't playing native Android with Nintendo ABXY. It's offensive. 🙃

[glossy ledge]

im made comparisons and still conclude rp makes good console at a very good price. similar to ayn spec but 50% cheaper...

i haven't heard bad things about rp as well

[mild spear]

Yeah, except for the whole 60hz IPS screen that had its own variety of issues.

[glossy ledge]

at one point, console will be like mobile phone. having 100mp camera where it's useless to most..

[mild spear]

Since this thing is effectively just a cheaper and smaller Odin 2 Portal (aka, the cooler Odin 2).

[mild spear]

And much as I’m loathe to admit it, I’ll at least give the Odin 2 Mini praise in actually avoiding the ghosting issues the Odin 2 LCD had (not to mention avoiding the “clacky” buttons that all of Retroid’s newer devices and even its direct Odin 2 successor had), so I suppose it also counts as a “Cooler Odin 2”.

[candid ridge]

I like to think of it as an OLED Odin 2 Mini

Honestly makes me excited for if AYN ever does an Odin 3 Mini

[slender raven]

I mean button labels are not the biggest thing in the world. They're just labels you generally won't see while playing a game and can be remapped in the device permanently

It'd be cool to have different button labels but it really doesn't affect the functionality of the device at all.

[crisp oak]

I mostly play PS1 and Genesis on my handhelds so I just ignore the button labels entirely XD

[mild spear]

I certainly ain’t using an emulation handheld with Xbox’s layout either.

[slender raven]

I swapped my buttons around on my rp5 because I was bored and thought it'd look cool

[limber surge]

i just wish they were all blank

[mild spear]

That’s what I usually go for in terms of button mods. Either that or PlayStation.

[limber surge]

don't really wanna pay half what a decent handheld costs for 4 pieces of plastic

[balmy quartz]

Why do you hate Sega and en-US PlayStation?

[slender raven]

Would be cool if you could ask for a second button layout for like $1-5 or something and have it included in the box for self installation

[mild spear]

I literally just said I prefer either blank buttons (both official and mods) or modded PlayStation buttons. My disinterest is exclusively reserved for Xbox’s layout since it sucks for most games I’d emulate.

[limber surge]

yep

do you not stream or use x86 emulation?

[mild spear]

Hey, I remember when Odin 2 Portal did that after its own controversy in changing the buttons post release.

Ended up being an idiot and buying a second set I didn’t actually need.

[balmy quartz]

As long as they don't make it so that you have to disassemble the whole damned device to do the swap.

[slender raven]

But to me it really is a mostly aesthetic thing. Maybe minor assist for the very extremely tiny percentage of the population of people buying one of these and don't know the button layout

[mild spear]

I do, but if I have to pick, I prefer keeping my emulation handhelds with the ABXY Nintendo Layout than using the BAYX Xbox layout.

[slender raven]

With a typical setup it's pretty unavoidable

[limber surge]

my rp5 is honestly more of a streaming handheld than anything

well not even honestly, i haven't opened up a single game on it yet

[slender raven]

The input daughter boards tend to have to sit close to the face of the device, so it's going to be deeper into disassembly. Only real way to work around it is some sort of method of disassembling the face plate

[limber surge]

now that they force the glass front maybe they should make it help for that kinda stuff

[mild spear]

Well, I’ll give Retroid the fact that you only need to disassemble to the right daughter board to do so. But Ayn also already was doing that so…

[balmy quartz]

For streaming, PC button layout definitely makes more sense - which is probably why the portal is the way it is.

[slender raven]

I could imagine some way to make the plastic bit around the buttons a snap in part that can be popped out by a flat head screwdriver or something

[keen marlin]

companies like gulikit do swappable buttons all the time

[slender raven]

If that were removable you could probably swap the buttons and snap it back on

[slender raven]

They're working with more space in a controller and don't have to deal with a screen.

[mild spear]

What kind? The ones that use magnets or the ones that still require you to disassemble the thing “but it’s easier since it’s just a controller”?

[mild spear]

Although there also is that newer controller that lets you take the faceplate off to swap them.

But I don’t think that one was from GuliKit.

[balmy quartz]

Someone is gonna do the Gamesir Tarantula thing on a handheld ...

[slender raven]

And keep in mind that despite how much of the community babies these devices, they are technically meant to be portable and on the move a lot, so they have to be able to withstand travel

[slender raven]

As funny as it is they shouldn't

It's so dumb (positive) lol

[limber surge]

mmm yess

[balmy quartz]

Eventually, just have a small OLED in each button that can be software controlled. You listening, Ayaneo?

[slender raven]

The mechanism works by having a rotating led within the switch, a plastic disc with the letter cutout, and then a lens in the button. And the disc rotates via a motorized gear

There's surely a way to get rid of some of that and get the same result

Imagine putting your handheld in your backpack or something and breaking a tooth off the gear

[limber surge]

i love that they show off the gear too

[lethal quiver]

Easy, make the entire face of the device a screen and have capacitive buttons

(It's just a smartphone with grips)

[limber surge]

maybe they could make it do phonecalls and stuff too

[slender raven]

The tarantula is so stupid in a fun way and I love it. It just won't work in a handheld format

[limber surge]

hell call it a smartphone

[slender raven]

I still haven't worked out a use for all the macro buttons

[limber surge]

it's my favorite controller ever by far, i'm starting to get creaky triggers though

[mild spear]

Didn’t they already effectively do capacitive face buttons with the original Steam Controller only for people to hate it?

[lethal quiver]

Nah

Steam controller goated

It's so comfy

[slender raven]

I had to RMA my first one after one of the rear macro buttons broke

[lethal quiver]

As long as you never need a dpad the steam controller is sweet

[limber surge]

oof

[lethal quiver]

If you try and use the pad on the steam controller as a dpad it is painful

[slender raven]

What I really love about the tarantula is the multiple profiles. I can keep it at my desk and effortlessly swap between my pc, Retroid, and Switch

[balmy quartz]

Partial to the G7 Pro these days. Those TMR sticks are the bomb ..

Also, the trigger locks are nice.

[toxic locust]

Still waiting on a retroid with a SIM card slot

[glossy ledge]

yes, just remove the 20 year old ugly chin buttons

[true nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-kingpin-clicking-pen-clicking-pen-spider-verse-into-the-spider-verse-gif-5180708998338482135

[glossy ledge]

this is so different from reddit responses... lol..

what does it say? maybe just have two editions.

[crisp oak]

Retroid David has indicated that they'd like to try doing two editions, one D-pad top and the other analog stick top, but won't be able to offer each edition in every color due to the logistical challenges of producing that many SKUs. So, some colors will be restricted to one layout or the other.

I'm just hoping they'll have a light purple D-pad top option 🤞

[candid ridge]

The more retro colors having dpad and the more modern ones having stick top (with the handful most popular ones having both) could maybe work

[crisp oak]

There we go. Here's Retroid's exact quote on the matter:

[glossy ledge]

so if you all play mario, do you use dpad or stick to navigate?

[toxic locust]

Dpad

[glossy ledge]

thats why i prefer it on top... i find it so weird with sticks placed diagonally on both ends.

[crisp oak]

I mainly play PS1 and Sega Genesis on my retro handhelds so I always go D-pad top. I do like to play a little GameCube and Wii every now and then, but 90% of my retro gaming is D-pad focused.

[mossy oasis]

What does this say? Not much. Only 28 votes in this poll.

[glossy ledge]

still pipul

[mossy oasis]

Sure thing. 20 people who voted for dpad top. Let's add those 20 people to the official Twitter/Discord poll results.

[glossy ledge]

hence, the two editions

[mossy oasis]

Just for the vocal minority, sure, I guess.

[glossy ledge]

@mossy oasis 40% is minority. ok.

[mossy oasis]

Well I mean, it is, yeah.

Maybe see if it changes things when you add those 20 people to the pool

[untold temple]

srry 😉

[crisp oak]

40% is a lot more than a minority, it's nearly half of Retroid's user base.

[mossy oasis]

When it's 60% vs 40%, the 40% is undoubtedly the minority, yes.

[toxic locust]

Technically a minority but you’d be a fool to treat it as such

[candid ridge]

It is a “minority” by definition, but 40% is still a lot of people

[mossy oasis]

Sure thing. I totally support having a second model for the minority.

[stray veldt]

lmao

[whole stirrup]

Wow a lot has happened with the RP6, seems it barely got announced and as soon as I checked in it turned out tons of stuff has happened

[stray veldt]

I didn't even find out about the RP6 until they were already in the middle of ruining the design...

[glossy ledge]

nothing much happened. we just learned what 'majority, minority' means

[crisp oak]

And I imagine if Retroid suddenly lost 40% of their sales their financials would not be looking good.

[whole stirrup]

Nice to see they're considering a more sensible stick layout, could be decent for those who don't want to gamble on the 8 elite but still want OLED - how they make the rear bumps bigger in the redesign

[glossy ledge]

just 'minor' impact

[toxic locust]

They’d be fine it’s just the minority

[stray veldt]

I feel like "minority" has been used so long to simply marginalize a less popular opinion that people forgot what it actually means

[toxic locust]

Statistically speaking 49% is minority

[candid ridge]

I genuinely pray people aren’t unironically saying to ignore the 40% just bc they’re “technically a minority”

[toxic locust]

Commons sense says it’s half

[glossy ledge]

it's a minor issue focusing on minority which will only have minor impacts on their sales

[mossy oasis]

Dpad top minority is minority enough for them to consider stick top

[glossy ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/schitt's-creek-david-schitts-creek-no-nope-sassy-gif-5805292699748617405

[toxic locust]

On a two sided vote like this I wouldn’t really consider something minority unless it’s under 25%

[true nexus]

Rp ds when?

[honest dust]

they will eat dirt with this, out of the thousands of votes half of the redesign/stick-top folks won't buy it anyway and the people who stuck up for the original design/d-pad top, who in most cases already put their money down for it are pissed and won't buy the new one 😂

[shrewd agate]

so i would probably expect them to do something similar to what Ayn does with the colours

just hald the number of skus and most options only on highest tier version

[polar oriole]

Yeah I understand for the dpad people who preordered. But it’s the right decision for what it is.

[mossy oasis]

Yeah, maybe they should release 4 models. Original design dpad top, original design stick top, redesign dpad top and redesign stick top. They're all majorities. 😂

[toxic locust]

That’s a terrible idea

[limber surge]

and 50 colors of each

[whole parcel]

Lol design change seems have divided the community

[whole stirrup]

I just see all this as a sign that when it comes to android handhelds we've never had it so good - from the launch of the portal to the 2026 android apk purge will probably considered the golden age

[stray veldt]

Yes... for Retroid. Good for me since I want the original design

[mossy oasis]

Transparent and non-transparent versions as well

[stray veldt]

Call it a cope (kinda is I admit), but the way Chris was bitching about lower orders in the initial 12 hours... How much of that was simply due to them not having the typical week or 3 of info teasing and unveiling and giving everyone a date to look forward to for orders?

[honest dust]

we already said that, aside from the market generally being quite saturated and A LOT of people being very likely to stick with their RP5, they just tossed it onto the market hours after unveiling it... in a way that got people confused as well, given how many didn't even bother to watch past the RPG2...

and without those weeks of teasing, it's also kinda lunatic to expect that everyone just has $250 on hand to throw at a shiny new toy

[mossy oasis]

I'd love to see the reaction on Retroid boss' face when they do a redesign with both stick top and dpad top variants and the preorders are still "low"

[honest dust]

that's exactly what will happen

[mossy oasis]

That would entertain me greatly

[limber surge]

i hope he has another house to mortgage

[dense latch]

Retroid never fails to come up with new retroidgates

[honest dust]

like do they really think they can do better with releasing an RP5++, while people already bought the KONKR, ODIN 3 and THOR?

[stray veldt]

The saturation in this segment, way better options, diminishing returns on what can be emulated or improved with more power, etc is a huge part too, yeah. I think it was always going to sell less than previous Retroids because of that alone, but it does feel like they could've mitigated some of the blow if they released all the info and were like "alright we're opening pre-orders in a week" so people could think about it and prepare.

[honest dust]

told a friend who bought the RP5 a few months ago about the RP6, he looked it up and was fine with his RP5 and the THOR he ordered... normal folks ain't gonna catch them all and Retroid should get a clue that they won't sell shit like this 😂

[limber surge]

people have had 8gen2 options for a couple years now and at the pace people upgrade there's a decent used market for all these anyway, so i suppose mostly anyone who wants an 8gen2 already has it

[untold temple]

not really

[glossy ledge]

competition is always good. community benefits.

[untold temple]

only small % users accept used devices

[glossy ledge]

i dont mind a used device with games in lol.

[limber surge]

it is but it was never gonna be a banger release

[untold temple]

so this Odin2 Oled is crazy stuff for them

[limber surge]

like most people when they said they were gonna announce the rp6 didn't really know what that could be

[glossy ledge]

it's all incremental adds, that make you keep on buying

[stray veldt]

you could even say a minority

[honest dust]

for the normal folks it's like:
"I don't need a 120hz screen... and my RP5 is already OLED"
"what more can this emulate? nah, I'm fine with how my RP5 handles PS2"

they were never going to sell half as many of the RP6 to begin with

[glossy ledge]

gratitude is happiness to life (instead of more more more)

[glossy ledge]

i thought we are done with majority minority definition

can i check which turqoise color will rp6 be?

[honest dust]

none, that color ain't selling good enough

[glossy ledge]

i kinda like it

[honest dust]

black 30%, silver 25%, 16bit 15% the remaining colors will so get canned 😂

[sharp trellis]

Curious what the split on the G2 is, I imagine the yellow and turquoise are more popular there

If that’s even selling well

[honest dust]

#1432180264746094602 message

like it's literally 6%, that's sooo cancelled

[sick raven]

do a poll and i bet that's the color that gets 50% votes

[sharp trellis]

Oh no I meant the RP5 G2 or whatever it is, not the RP6

[sick raven]

tbf it's probably because it's the "preorder" color

[glossy ledge]

pheww. not a minority...

[carmine wraith]

Rather than pushing divisive designs, it would have been so easy to have something more balanced and versatile that makes easier to use the lower control. Ayn did so with the Odin 2 Mini, by flattening the back to allow users to alter how they handle the device.

[sweet token]

So, here's the thing.
More people want stick-top, but if Retroid goes that direction they are competing with at least 2-3 other devices for that 60%.
Right now Retroid is the only high-end device catering toward that 40% who want d-pad on top. See the issue Retroid is facing?

[limber surge]

yes, that's the point i've been making too

having no options sucks

[glossy ledge]

rp5 has been dpad top.. i havent seen people arguing about it.

[carmine wraith]

You didn’t listen carefully enough.

I prefer DPad top but with the RP5 beeing so small without a flat back, I have to admit that using the sticks on it was painful

If they put the stick in top without either enlarging the device, or flattening the back, the DPad will become unusable

[glossy ledge]

so they should change the design which solve the issue better

wont these companies have trial survey companies, hire a few gamers, ask for feedback?

[carmine wraith]

Either keep the larger body but people don’t like that, or flatten the back as O2 Mini

Nothing spectacular : Ayn did it and we know it works.

[narrow bane]

Starting to think that the only way out of this for Retroid would be to go back to square one and design something that more or less rips off the Nintendo Switch's slide on controller design and apply that to the Retroid Pocket form factor. That way they can offer either stick configurations as the user wishes without manufacturing 2-4 devices.

[carmine wraith]

And launch of the RP6 didn’t succeed really well. The 40% obviously didn’t preorder.

[honest dust]

that would require way too many molds

[narrow bane]

I'm open to other ideas. Maybe something that has drop in modules?

[sweet token]

It probably didn't help that Retroid's idea of marketing was to throw a brick through everyone's window with a note tied to it saying, "PREORDER NOW!"

[mossy oasis]

Seriously, I think at this point they should just stop trying to look premium and just go back to cheap and fun

[honest dust]

still way to many molds, that's literally the most costly thing about these devices as doing different pcb is relatively cheap

[sweet token]

Also I kinda wonder what the point of the G2 is except for Retroid to compete with themselves. If it uses the same shell it should have just been a RP5+ and gave the RP6 another 6 months to cook.

[honest dust]

well, Qualcomm basically spoiled that they would use it 6months ago and we fully expected the RP6 to use it... but I guess they saw the KONKR and were like "deploy the 8g2 now!"

[carmine wraith]

YESSS. Keep it simple : flat back, good specs and OS. No glass. No transparent buttons. Just a simple no non-sense device, that works. With an additional grip for those who want.

[sweet token]

The RP3+ wasn't cheap though, they occupied a nice little mid-tier niche between Anbernic and Ayaneo/AYN.

[honest dust]

Retroid is done for either way, if they truly expected to sell half as many RP6 as they sold RP5

[toxic locust]

The great retro handheld crash of 2025

One for the history books for sure

Too many retro handhelds

Not enough people to buy them

[narrow bane]

Maybe that was the problem all along. I remember back in the day when every iPhone was an exciting new thing that had features that everyone just had to have. Now every smartphone release is just another Tuesday.

[stray veldt]

yeah but then those of us who hate non built-in controls will start malding

i mean im already malding but still like if i wasnt

[carmine wraith]

It targets the T820 Anbernic crowd IMO. They have the molds and could release quickly enough.

For RP6, they needed to open preorders sooner than usual because the Konkr has only one week left for early bird, and they knew that most people who buy a Konkr won’t buy a RP6 on top of that.

[toxic locust]

Isn’t the t820 crowd sub $200 tho

[honest dust]

the RPG2 is $199 tho

[carmine wraith]

Yes but the $50 gap is not that much provided the huge huge performance and specs improvements.

For $50 more than a T820 Anbernic, one can emulate so many more platforms, and on an OLED screen.

[honest dust]

also basically the G2 Gen2 competes with the D8300 devices like the rg557 and rg477m

[mild spear]

…Did I miss something or did Goober leave?

[carmine wraith]

Also. Releasing the G2 so quickly is a smart move in my opinion.

[mild spear]

Or did he block me and that’s why his account looks like this? I still don’t know if this is how it works for that.

[midnight fiber]

It bears repeating. They trashed the design a few hours after opening pre-orders. Who the fuck does that.

[honest dust]

@stray veldt still here, I guess

[crisp oak]

Out of curiosity, for those of you who would like an analog stick top configuration on the RP6, what makes you want the RP6 over the Konkr Pocket Fit?

[mild spear]

Ok got it, just wanted to check since after what happened with Pope, you can never be too sure.

[honest dust]

they will argue with the OLED screen

[limber surge]

price, and it makes sense for them to want it

the konkr is only available at these prices with the mega super early bird and from igg, retroid is easier to buy i guess

[mild spear]

It’s still available at those prices since they extended it twice now.

[honest dust]

I will laugh my ass off if Aya just keeps the SEB pricing on their store to fuck Retroid over

[mild spear]

At this point I’m pretty sure that may very well could end up being the price given previous history on the matter, or at least the Early Bird.

[true nexus]

The konkr is ginormous

Relatively speaking

[carmine wraith]

Which makes both controls easy to use despite the bumped back.

[true nexus]

Yeah it comes with its benefits, those aren't worth the size increase to me though

[carmine wraith]

The other solution to let both controls OK is to flatten the back as with the O2 Mini.

A small device with a bumped back won’t make it easy to use both top and bottom controls.

You have to chose : flat or bulky. Small and bumpy cannot work.

[sweet token]

This is the problem I had with the RGXXCube. The RGB30 was a brick but just felt more comfortable to use for me.

[mild spear]

Same reason why I ended up preferring the ZPG A1 Unicorn over the RG Cube, even in spite of the performance difference.

[carmine wraith]

Retroid has encouraged a sterile and divisive approach by asking stick top or bottom. They should have asked themselves how to let use both top and bottom controls.

Well they actually tried but people disliked the bulky RP6.

Now the best solution would be to come back to the basics and flatten all that.

[true nexus]

Actually it is pretty funny that they're considering making two skus instead of actually insetting their controls

[carmine wraith]

Upside down thinking.

[crisp oak]

No kidding! All they had to do was inset the analog sticks closer to the screen and size up the grips at the bottom and it would have been comfortable for both D-pad and analog stick gaming!

/RG556

[true nexus]

They literally had it right in front of them too 😭

[toxic locust]

https://tenor.com/view/hans-landa-gif-13588332054919988806

[carmine wraith]

People don’t want the bulk, obviously. So a bit of insetting, and a flat back. Done. Everybody is fine with one single SKU.

/Vita /O2Mini

[crisp oak]

I like big chonky devices with some meat on their bones, more cushion for the thumb pushin' as it were, but I can totally accept that design rationale too. It makes a lot more sense than whatever Retroid has been thinking for the past year lol

[balmy quartz]

Hell, if they'd made it exactly like the O2 Mini, but with 120Hz OLED and in orange, I'd have probably bought two of them. (And I mean exactly ... offset sticks and not-Nintendo face buttons)

[narrow bane]

Just how feasible would it be to say fuck it and manufacture 2 different sku's for stick on top and bottom?

[toxic locust]

That’s what they’re planning on doing

[quick abyss]

as someone who owned a rp5. it really needs a bit more height, tha thing is mad uncomfortable

[narrow bane]

Yeah, I really didn't mind the chin on the first iteration. Just push the sticks as close to the screen as possible and give us a non shitty render and it would have been fine

[quick abyss]

I hope the redesign will be super crampy and I hope that people keep accidentally pressing the function buttons on the back as punishment for removing them from the front.

retroid fans shall reap what they sow.

[narrow bane]

More like people that don't know that the Odin 2 already existed should reap what they sow

[stray veldt]

This would've been so comfy...

[cloud lagoon]

Retroid is cool now

we angry at Anbernic instead

[dawn river]

What did anbernic do lately?

A usbc charging port that doesn’t work with any modern charger on all of their monthly devices for the past 6 years?

[keen marlin]

Thank God they didn't make that dumb of a decision

[midnight fiber]

Anbernic got nostalgic and brought back the RK3566 and 480p screens at $100.

[dawn river]

Oh I did see the specs on the DS.

People are upset about that though for the price?

[midnight fiber]

Yeah, marketing implied integer scaling and there were rumors of beefier chips.

[quick abyss]

The Pocket Air Mini looks like a way better value in comparison.

Not dual screen but well built and a phenomenal price to performance ratio.

[mild spear]

Fuck no, we can be angry at both.

Retroid for needlessly creating controversy for no good reason.

And Anbernic for this.

But hey, “pixel to pixel” can mean a lot of different things right?

[balmy quartz]

Yeah, heaven forbid Retroid made something GOOD.

[balmy quartz]

I mean ... I'm not SURPRISED by this - they obviously wanted something shitty and cheap with a high profit margin. But at least it relieves me from even considering buying one. I have enough ewaste as it is.

[sonic notch]

https://tenor.com/view/relaxes-relaxed-angry-mad-pissed-gif-17708126

[balmy quartz]

Eh, I can't be angry per se about either of these things. To be angry I'd first have to actually care. 🙃

[jaunty veldt]

Retroid creating controversy? You mean the community?

[mild spear]

No, this time it was just them.

[jaunty veldt]

[crisp oak]

If it makes you feel any better I really enjoyed your video on the 6-button RP Classic today! ^_^

[balmy quartz]

Thanks. I like the Classic, all things considered. Been spending time playing Turbografx-16 on it mostly since I recorded rather than Sega, though. (But I am the guy who still has an actual TG-16 hooked up to the TV in the living room, so ...)

I would seriously consider double-dipping if they made a RP Classic Horizontal Edition (with the six-button layout, of course).

[west ember]

Tbh, I've been playing my RP Mini alot and just watching out for news

Ngl, I would’ve loved the G2 was a 4:3 device

And we left the RP6 alone

[knotty pebble]

With joysticks please, at least one.

[crisp oak]

I mostly play Genesis/32X/Sega CD and PS1 when it comes to retro gaming, so I've been awfully tempted by the black 6-button RP Classic, I just haven't got one yet since I didn't know whether I'd find the square aspect ratio tolerable for the 4:3 systems I like to play. I really loved the RG ARC-D from a hardware perspective, but didn't own it for very long since I couldn't seem to find an OS option for it that was stable and not buggy.

Both Anbernic and Gamma's Android builds gave me all sorts of trouble, and I didn't have much better luck of the Linux side either. So I've just stuck with H700 devices for lower end stuff since I've never had any stability issues with Knulli.

[honest dust]

holy hell

[carmine wraith]

And they sent me this. Also a few days.

I understand that the redesign is ready (they perhaps hesitated between 2 before launch and now they just get the other one) but that they need to adjust marketing and how to deal with preorders.

[honest dust]

I wasn't fucking asking 😂

[limber surge]

https://tenor.com/view/sailor-moon-cry-chibi-sad-anime-gif-16805477

please don't go

[honest dust]

either they refund me or I'm going to chargeback, I ordered what they sold, specifically stated the voted on changes ain't to my liking and they can shove their redesign where the sun ain't shines and they still dare to answer like that?

[spare stirrup]

Puroguramā-kun! 🥺

I sold my RP5, so I don't need a G2 or 6 either 😛

[honest dust]

the Retroid server is bunch of absolute fanboys, lol

[glossy ledge]

i think the initial design will still proceed. they will have another design too for the minority.

[sage raft]

They must be absolutely rushing to get the redesign out. Probably getting so many emails cancelling or at least demanding more details.

[fiery barn]

They got so few pre-orders that they're holding onto the ones they did get for dear life

[sick raven]

what the, they're not automatically cancelling the preorder for a product they scrapped?

[fiery barn]

Nah seems like they'll offer stick on top and d-pad on top, but both on the shorter new design that's more like an RP5. I think the original taller (and more comfy-looking!) design with the buttons underneath is dead

[sick raven]

just save screenshot copies of the initial rp6 and then when it arrives chargeback as product not as described

makes no sense they didn't automatically cancel all the orders

original design with the chin buttons moved to the left/right edges of the chin like the original psp

[honest dust]

definitely dead, they can't afford to do two designs, most importantly two molds and ultimately two internal structures

I honestly think they can't even do two stick positions without enormous additional cost, which will add to the fun of them selling even less after this whole mess

[echo nymph]

ok thats hilarious 😂

[sick raven]

"it's more prudent" how? retroid is obligated to give a full refund. It's not a final decision because he can just reorder with the refunded money

[quick abyss]

How about that? 👉 👈

[sick raven]

there's 0 benefit for the consumer to not get refunded to make a decision later

[quick abyss]

There should be some incentive, true

[sick raven]

idk offer a few free accessories or something if they don't cancel the preorder to incentivize keeping it? but let them cancel if they want to

[uneven fractal]

How bout dat

You’ll love the new one trust me bro

[sick raven]

imagine placing order and forgetting about it and half a year later u get basically a odin 2.5

[honest dust]

at least you guys are more reasonable than the Retroid shills on their discord, who see no issue with this mail at all 😂

[sick raven]

you obviously aren't entitled to a refund for a preordered product you didn't purchase

wouldn't be anti consumer enough

[limber surge]

it's more prudent for us to keep your money

[echo nymph]

"We will keep your money and you will like it"

[sick raven]

it's something 100% their fault, not something like consumer just changed their mind about the purchase

[sharp trellis]

WTF. I had no problem with mine, they must have had so many cancellations that they're panicking now

[limber surge]

probably if you push back with another email they'll just refund you, they're just trying to see if some preorders stick

[honest dust]

yeah, don't think I have to go as far as to do a charge back here, but they are clearly desperate

[sharp trellis]

I don't think this is Gill's fault either, they've always been very responsive. Presume this has been cascaded down

[carmine wraith]

In my case, I have explicitely asked them not to refund automatically, just in case I want the new one (cannot aford having 2 preorders pending at this price).

[sharp trellis]

That's fair

[carmine wraith]

If they go to the RP5 route with no added height and a bumpy back, whatever control you put on top, the other one will be difficult to use and the device, uncomfortable. The least they can do in such a case is to offer a grip, because they make it almost mandatory.

[honest dust]

You will buy a grip and you will like it

[quick abyss]

You will buy a grip and you will like it

[sharp trellis]

You will buy a grip and you will like it

[carmine wraith]

Either I can get a comfortable device without an added grip that I need to pay for, or I just buy something else. The Konkr is way smaller than a RP5 with a grip, with a larger screen, good for an LCD, and way more powerful, for not such a larger price.

[sweet token]

You will buy a grip and you will lick it. 👅

[quick abyss]

But the accessories have a higher profit margin than their handhelds, that’s how they make money

[quick abyss]

You should probably get konkr

Hope it can be considered a 2025 release

Ayaneo better not mess up logistics

[echo nymph]

they always do 😄

[sharp trellis]

Arthur wants a win, if logistics fail he'll be delivering them all personally by hand like Gaben

[carmine wraith]

We’ll see. A couple of days is before the Konkr Early Bird price end. But if the RP6 is just narrow as the RP5 and it doesn’t have a flat back such as the O2 Mini, then I consider that the base price is not $209 but $209+16=$225,00.

[echo nymph]

possibly AYA will extend the early bird again. Unlikely, but let's see

might be a 'So retroid fucked up huh? Don't worry, WE'RE HERE TO SAVE THE DAY'

[carmine wraith]

What puzzles me is that of Retroid gives the choice bewteen Dpad top and bottom, they just don’t get the point. We want to be able to use BOTH controls, not only the top one.

[carmine wraith]

And as much I have more use of the DPad (so I would be more in the DPad team and answered accordingly to the poll), I use the stick as well. So even to me, better the stick on top with both controls comfortable to use. A good combo would have been : top stick and "new" shell. But the polls didn't translate these nuances.

[tribal haven]

I'm ngl I was seriously thinking of splurging for this even though I've found my endgame in the Thor

design is way too good to pass up on for 229 USD

[carmine wraith]

The issue is that they could backtrack on the poor RP5 design (poor when it comes to actual use, not for fancyness).

I just hope that if they narrow the device back, they also make it flat so both controls get usable, such as on Odin 2 Mini. The latter also drawn inspiration from the Vita, obviously, but Ayn did it right with a flat back.

[tribal haven]

wdym

you mean the 'ergonomic handles'?

but yeah I generally think that the original design works best with a flat back

if I really need ergonomics I'd buy a grip

[sharp trellis]

SHHHH Retroid will hear you

[echo nymph]

pretty sure they will do it anyway, its in their DNA 😄

[limber surge]

the thing is they already come with included grips but it's so bad that you need another grip

so at that point just make it flat

[sharp trellis]

"hey kid, wanna buy some grips?"

[quick abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-baby-cry-gif-13805535

[carmine wraith]

The RP5 was not large enough, especially in height, provided the low inset of the stick. Back bumps force your hands into particular positions and you cannot move freely to adjust. With a smallish device, accessing the bottom control becomes difficult. So, the so-called "ergonomic" bumps at the back actually son't serve ergonomics if the device is not tall enough. Back bumps is for larger devices. If you want narrow devices, then you have to make them flat. Ayn did understant that.

Plus a flat device is more pocketable. And if you are after super comfort, just buy an additional grip.

[merry anchor]

Tbh I'd like for it to be wider on either side of the screen

Like the RP Mini

[carmine wraith]

Yep. Mini was way more comfortable with more inset. The receipe is well knows. If you want both controls to bu usable, you need a combination of :

• extra bulk (width and height)
• bottom control inset
• flat back if the device is too small
  If Retroid does none of this, the RP6 will be as uncomfortable as the RP5. They tried extra bulk but people didn't like it. So they are left with the other solutions.

[honest dust]

Yeah, og design with flat back would be peak

[carmine wraith]

This is one solution, indeed.

There are others, just pick one, Retroid. But please don't do a RP5 with top stick, as the polls with stupid questions suggest.

[slender raptor]

I want to buy a grip for a device that won’t exist

[crisp oak]

I've been saying all along that if they just gave the RP6 built in grips like the RG556/RG557 you wouldn't need to buy and attach a cheap feeling TPU grip to make it comfortable to use for both D-pad and analog stick gaming, but I get that some people don't like the built-in grip aesthetic.

Plus Retroid wants to make that grip accessory $$$

[toxic locust]

Anything new yet

[tribal haven]

ah okay, glad to see that this lines up with my common sense

[sharp trellis]

Limited Edition Collector's item!*

*Display stand sold separately, final design of stand may change before dispatch https://www.goretroid.com/en-gb/collections/accessories/products/retroid-official-grip-for-rp6

[echo nymph]

but then they cant charge extra for a grip 😄

[balmy quartz]

Circle pad or PSP-esque slider. Would enable PSP and Dreamcast without having to compromise on being able to put it into a pocket.

[midnight fiber]

Oh, people are cancelling pre-orders in enough numbers they need that line? Can't imagine why.

[balmy quartz]

Given that it's an OLED screen and the black bars emit no light, you should be able to pretty much ignore the "dead" area for 4:3 systems if it's blending into an already-black device like the black 6-button. I don't find it all that distracting on the Saturn one that I have.

[midnight fiber]

You could even say people are telling retroid things and they're not hearing loud and clear.

[slender raven]

Has Eleven Wang finally been dethroned?

[sharp trellis]

Classic

[slender raven]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-alter-the-deal-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-gif-15971205

[mild spear]

Surprisingly enough they ain’t messing up on the Pocket DS.

[wild reef]

I'm still wondering why they haven't cut the price of the RP5 when they put the RP5+ on sale... At the same price.

[honest dust]

Because the RPG2 will be more expensive than the RP6 in two weeks

[wild reef]

The RP5+ looks so sexy...

I hear it will heat a lot with its chip though

[midnight fiber]

They know the G2 is a hard sale otherwise, so they flash it to you after the tiny price slash on the RP5.

[untold temple]

lol?

[onyx orchid]

Yeah she gave me this fuckin attitude when i was trying to return my retroid DS

I know people said ayaneo's customer servcie is their biggest issue but after retroids tried to gaslight me into thinking my DS is working fine and it's the cable despite video evidence otherwise? It would have to be REAL bad

[hardy falcon]

How about that?

[vivid granite]

You want a refund? Cash me outside. How bout that?

The retroid staff are clearly just fans of vintage memes.

Might want to separate that from customer service though...

[onyx orchid]

the retroid staff should be fans of making good product instead

[toxic locust]

Oh my god

The new rp6 looks even worse now

Even more RP5 than the original new render

[echo nymph]

any new info today?

[thick goblet]

i suggested before

rp6 ver 1 dpad on top
( just reuse the rp5 shell to save cost. rp5, rpg2 and rp6 has same shell for dpad on top )
rp6 ver 2 stick on top

with 2 version. everyone will be happy

[midnight fiber]

Turquoise is kill then

[true nexus]

This is a pretty solid spread of colors

Thought there'd only be like two per version

[fiery barn]

Man I liked the taller design, looked more comfy

[fiery barn]

This jsut looks like an RP5

[sweet token]

Given how often I accidentally hit the M1 and M2 buttons on my Portal, sticking them on the back is the surest way to get me to turn them off and never use them. >_>

[midnight fiber]

Yeah, they ironically killed the main appeal of the RP6 to court people who won't even buy it.

[candid ridge]

The turqouise wasn’t a color I thought too highly of anyways, so not a big loss for me.
I didn’t dislike the old design, but I personally prefer this new one.
More rounded RP5.

[tired cargo]

Man, all colours look great.

[candid ridge]

Design changes don’t need to be super radical.
I’m glad they’re at least letting us pick dpad top

Will see if it’s something my family or friends would be interested in at all

[echo nymph]

hopefully this will help those preorders i guess though still a tough market

[candid ridge]

I’d get that orange one for myself if I didn’t already want the Odin 3 next year

I don’t like having nor need that many handhelds at once

[true nexus]

Ngl wish the tech dweeb color had a darker orange

[sweet token]

I'm going to be very curious which configuration sells more.

[sick raven]

gonna replace both my o2mini and rp5 i guess

[slender raven]

Color variety is cool

[toxic locust]

Stick top if people buy what they voted for

[candid ridge]

The color variety is something this at least has over other similar devices

[toxic locust]

Black 12gb stick top to be exact

Basic bitch handheld

[slender raven]

Surely everyone who voted will buy one.

[candid ridge]

As much as I like the clear blue on Odin 3, I’d be lying if I said the color lineup on that or the Konkr were anywhere near as interesting as the RP6 colors

[mighty beacon]

I'll be ordering the Black 12gb stick top with the orange grip as soon as it is available

[candid ridge]

These are actually fun colors

[crisp oak]

My beloved light purple D-pad top option lives! Huzzah! 💜

[sick raven]

wonder if they will have buttons for sale

[candid ridge]

Big improvement over the RP5 color lineup

[sweet token]

Stick-top got more votes, but competes with a lot of other devices. That's why the sales results will be interesting.

[toxic locust]

I hope we can change the face buttons to be Xbox layout

[sick raven]

I want orange but with white buttons

[echo nymph]

maybe they'l do another poll for buttons

[slender raven]

I'm a fan of companies trying something new instead of yet another DMG, GameCube, nes, and snes color lineup.

[sick raven]

but no white buttons exist in these colorways

[candid ridge]

The Miles Tails Power color scheme :p

[toxic locust]

I don’t actually mind what it ships with, just as long as the layout can be swapped

[slender raven]

The layout is just aesthetic to me so it's no big deal

[true nexus]

Hmm, black goes better for oled blending, but silver is more unique 🤔

[candid ridge]

I imagine it won’t be too difficult to mod white buttons in this

But I’m not that experienced in modding

[sweet token]

The clear dpad and buttons look slick, though. >.>

[sick raven]

yea, prob going for one of the colors + clear buttons

[slender raven]

Rear paddles suck for the people who didn't want them but I still haven't had a clear explanation of how they could be useful in the front.

[true nexus]

Long thumbs ig

[shrewd agate]

Ayn Odin 2+

[slender raven]

If it's just a 1:1 button remap, what's the use for them? That's what I'm not understanding

[toxic locust]

https://tenor.com/view/abysmal-dogshit-absolute-cinema-a-guy-gif-7719966734167801090

[candid ridge]

Know what, think I’ll consider this handheld as a potential choice after all now that they’re offering dpad top for every color choice.
I’ll watch reviews on both this and the Odin 3

[crisp oak]

It totally is a Retroid Pocket 5, but with the Odin 2 chipset, fun new colors, and you get to choose whether you want D-pad top or analog stick top. I feel like Retroid actually turned this one around pretty nicely.

[candid ridge]

That orange one with dpad top is really speaking to me

I’m one of the few that doesn’t already own an 8gen2 handheld

[slender raven]

They still fucked up in the customer service department imo

Redesign after pre-order should never happen unless it's a change with no downside.

[candid ridge]

Yeah, that alone means I am NOT pre-ordering this x3

[crisp oak]

Same here. I've got my Steam Deck OLED and a couple H700 devices, but nothing in between. This seems like it would fill the gap pretty nicely.

[candid ridge]

Not that I was ever going to anyways after the past PR disasters with this company

[shrewd agate]

tbh better it happened this quickly .... and not after shopping #RpMini

[true nexus]

I am interested in ordering but shipping next year is rough

[candid ridge]

Good point

[slender raven]

If it were actually a flaw in the rp mini it'd be different. But it being intentional...

[toxic locust]

When do preorders go back up
I’m gonna go against my better judgement and preorder

[sick raven]

im buying 3

[candid ridge]

I don’t think this is as bad as the RPMini incident.
Months of promising a fix for the scaling issue just for them to not only say they can’t, but also us finding out why the issue was even happening 🗿

This is still a pretty fucked thing they did though

[true nexus]

Is the preorder discount up for the entire preorder duration?

[tired cargo]

Silver gang?

[slender raven]

Tbh any powerful handheld I get is basically competing for a slot between my Odin 2 Portal and my rp classic

[true nexus]

Haven't decided yet but it does look sleek

[fiery barn]

The RP5 is, for me, too short and cramped. The original, taller, RP6 design looked way more comfy

[slender raven]

When my battery dies in my Odin 2 Portal, it'd be nice to have a second device I could swap to and continue my zzz lmao

[deep ibex]

Save, load, fastforward, slow, rewind etc

[tired cargo]

Very.

[slender raven]

I guess to me it's already a simple button combo thing you can do without moving your hands typically

But that also will only work if the macro buttons register as separate buttons in retroarch

[deep ibex]

Prob not, you just bind something like select+l2 for m1

[slender raven]

If that's even an option. I don't think I've seen it in AYN or Ayaneo's macro settings.

[thick goblet]

yes the new design is awesome

[tranquil mica]

Retroid be like:

[deep ibex]

Still think paddles is better, i had second red tool bind in silksong for paddle

[slender raven]

With Ayn it's a simple 1:1 button map and since moorechip also makes retroid software, I think it's likely going to be the same.

[deep ibex]

This is look really stupid, like why do you want two same buttons?

[thick goblet]

rp6 ver stick on top
5.5 inches oled screen
209
odin 2 mini
5 inches lcd screen
329.

obviously rp6 stick on top is the way to go.

[toxic locust]

Old news

💤

[slender raven]

It's useful for awkward button combinations. For example in an fps game, you could map jump or reload or something so you can do that action without taking a finger off the aiming stick

[mild spear]

Ah, fair enough.

[true nexus]

Yep, had to sacrifice the switch lite one, well worth it imo

[wild reef]

Did I get it wrong?

[slender raven]

I use 4 paddles on my pc controller for Monster Hunter Wilds, because in my way of playing, I often have to hold 2 buttons simultaneously while aiming and tapping another.

I also use my macro buttons a ton in hollow knight/silksong. I find it most comfortable to use only my pointer on shoulder buttons, but because of how fast you may need to press some button combinations, I like that I can use my middle finger to press the shoulder buttons while I rest my pointers on the triggers.

[deep ibex]

With silksong you dont need second stick

[slender raven]

My thumb is on the face buttons on that game. But also second stick is really important for quickly looking up and down

In silksong I map LB/RB to my macro buttons and I keep my pointers on LT/RT. When I have to do something like RB and RT really quickly back to back, I can do it because my fingers are already on both. Of course I could reposition my hands so that I have my pointer on RB and middle finger on RT but I find that hand position uncomfortable

So for the most part my rear paddles tend to be LB/RB, LS/RS, or A/B

[deep ibex]

In my case i dont have problems with middle fingers on triggers, so paddles for tool and charged strike (non charged attack is in turbo mode so i need second button for charged)

[slender raven]

I swap to middle fingers on triggers for rare situations

In Zenless Zone Zero on my odin, I tend to prefer the feeling of character swap (LB/RB) on the actual shoulder buttons, so I often slide my middle finger up to RT when necessary to do ultimates.

[civic sentinel]

Just saw Retroid is doing both stick configurations. A win for all

[narrow laurel]

Am I the only one that is sad it’s basically another RP5 clone now? I really liked the PSP vibes before the redesign

[echo nymph]

an overall win, the journey getting there was a shame. I preferred the original one

[upbeat gate]

Ah man they removed the color I wanted again

[civic sentinel]

I personally did not like the chin with buttons design. I much prefer having macros on the rear as I use those heavily.

[upbeat gate]

First it was the Mini with red/white and now turquoise

It looks so much better in the grip pics

[narrow laurel]

It’s less about the buttons, but they changed how round it was as well. It really looks exactly like the RP5 now

It doesn’t feel “new”

[civic sentinel]

Feelsbadman. Sorry to hear your color got booted.

I am happy the orange/black is there. I’m deciding between that and silver

[candid ridge]

Silver is the other color I really like

[civic sentinel]

I hear ya. It really does look the same as rp5. Still, I’d prefer a shorter device with a nice screen to body ratio.

I do wish they could cram that display and specs in a RP4-esque shell though. I miss the glassless face with full watermelon transparent body

[narrow laurel]

I agree, which is why I’m bummed about it. I’ve never been thrilled with the aesthetics of the RP5 which is why I skipped that gen

[limber surge]

honestly if they had presented this the other day with no shenanigans, it would be such a good release

[civic sentinel]

This will be my first retroid with glass face too. Avoided all their devices last year. I last dipped in with Rp4 and 2S

[limber surge]

value destroys everything and they even give you the option to have stick or dpad top, it can really be the best retroid

[narrow laurel]

Ugh I may skip again

[civic sentinel]

I don’t blame you. I like the specs, and display but one thing is this is a fingerprint and scratch magnet. You need one of those etsy face covers on it at all times or a neoprene sleeve

[dawn comet]

Looks so similar to thr Odin 3. They can't be related right..

[muted spindle]

And they ruined it

[limber surge]

these glass fronts are really scratch resistant

[civic sentinel]

I really wouldn’t know but my iphone 14 is all scratched up, I didn’t expect retroid to have a tougher glass lol

[narrow laurel]

I like the specs too, and I’m glad they are giving a button orientation option. But now we just have three devices that look the same

[limber surge]

the amount of wear and tear you expose a phone and a retro handheld are pretty different

[slender raven]

I really do like the new colors

[limber surge]

i doubt it's tougher, it's probably worse, but it will just get worn less

[limber surge]

i think they really fucked up by not just doing this the first time around, the value and giving stick top as an option makes it a sick product

[slender raven]

They really should have stuck with the first design after taking pre orders. I maintain that.

[limber surge]

i like the bigger more rounded design better

but this in a vaccum is a sick offering, although they already fucked up the pr

[snow tangle]

Wouldn't it be funny if the low orders was because everyone is broke, and they just redesigned everything anyways

[west ember]

Not the biggest fan of the design, but good lord the fact you can change the buttons is immediately making this a value pick

[limber surge]

my main worry was dpad top being phased out, and i really wish the rp6 sales don't make it be phased out for the rp7

[echo nymph]

dpad top does make this appealing for an affordable gen2 device that does something different

[civic sentinel]

Any idea on when these will start shipping? I’d imagine like next year?

[west ember]

January

[limber surge]

january was prior to the redesign, maybe it'll take longer

[nova crystal]

January and it should be in your hands by early Feb next year

[midnight fiber]

Most likely is getting some delay.

[honest dust]

Man the new Odin 3 8g2 is kinda ass

[midnight fiber]

It's just so funny to me they're stuck selling 3 RP5s now.

[candid fern]

it feels kind of insane to me that it only took like 48 hours to redesign the hardware...

like this has to have been an iteration they went back to or something

[limber surge]

pretty sick value, i wish it was the bigger design (and really wish it was just flat)

[candid fern]

design processes are not this short lmao

[limber surge]

they probably had a few more designs done before they chose the original reveal and they just had to make some renders after the shitstorm

[candid fern]

yeah that's what I'm thinking

like this was probably an iteration between the start of the design process and the og rp6 reveal

[celest pond]

Retroid is so glad Anbernic dropped the ball and is taking the heat off them

[tired cargo]

And the RP5 design is very popular. It also won the poll, so eh. I get that super fans want something new, but if that something new isn't selling and is clearly less popular than the predecessor it makes sense for a company to fall back to something they know works.

[candid fern]

absolutely yeah

[tired cargo]

But they really need to dig deep and do something better for the RP7.

The RP6 needs to be studied so they can avoid all the mistakes they made with that one.

[candid ridge]

This being more curved than the RP5 makes it look more like a simple evolution rather than something new, which I get is not that hype.

The main selling point for this besides the price and it being dpad top is the colors being far more interesting than the other similar handhelds

[dawn comet]

February is Lunar New Year. Nobody in China works, so it probably be March

[candid fern]

the translucent buttons truly go so incredibly hard on the gray and purple

[nova crystal]

Probably, i dont expect it to be ship as early as January

there would be delays for sure

[limber surge]

i think you forget the 3 times more power

[sly glen]

any idea on the pwm (hz) / dc dimming / some hybrid setup for the screen? The retroid support email does not seem to understand when I email them the questions

[candid ridge]

Like every other 8gen2 handheld out there? :p
Joking aside, ~$250 for a 12gb ram 8g2 is insane value

If I decide I want this with dpad top over the Odin 3, I may get a dpad top 8bitdo controller to go with it

I inadvertently lucked out in not having an 8gen2 device yet x3

Just couldn’t afford the Odin 2 lineup at all

[candid fern]

I need the benchmarks of the G2 vs the RP6 so bad

based on early stuff the difference doesn’t seem too huge

[nova crystal]

I need it too. I cant wait for RP6 and g2 seems promising and a efficient version of 8 gen 2. Konkr price is out of my budget due to shipping taxes and stuff. So i might end up with G2

[candid fern]

same

[limber surge]

yeah that's the point, value is crazy

[candid fern]

I have the order page sitting in a tab right now for the G2

[quiet lintel]

With them releasing both versions, it will be very interesting seeing what the sales data will show after all the commotion of Stickgate

[limber surge]

i fear for the dpad top retroid dying for the rp7

[fierce bloom]

I have a feeling Retroid ordered a ton of G2 chips and dont know what to do with it, and switched up chipset to SDG2 with Thor, Odin 3 and Konkr competition

[sick raven]

both versions will sell well but their o2 stock is now ewaste

[fierce bloom]

I think it would have been a better idea to do something unique with the G2 chips

• Make a GBA SP clamshell with dual sticks using Classic screen

• RP Mini V2 successor

[candid ridge]

I legit think offering both dpad top and stick top skus is one of the best things Retroid could do to differentiate themselves from the competition at this point

Really hope they don’t stop doing that for RP7 onwards

[quiet lintel]

I would have bought a G2 if they didn't also announce one that is superior in every way for a minor increase in price. Pretty, uh, bold move to introduce two products at the same price point and power level at the same time

[fiery barn]

I wonder if d-pad top or stick top will ship first

[uneven fractal]

Original design of rp6 plz 😢

[candid ridge]

That G2 and the RP5 both genuinely need to go down in price more

G2 makes buying a RP5 now completely pointless, but there’s also little reason to buy the G2 over a dpad top RP6

[fierce bloom]

Thats why G2 chips should have been used for all 4:3 screen or Classic screen

As you dont need SDG2 power as Wii U, Gamehub, Switch is pointless on 4:3

[limber surge]

if you look for them, there are good deals for the rp5, i paid 185€ shipped for my rp5, it will keep going down

[nova crystal]

G2 should be 160 to 180$

[limber surge]

nah that's just not feasible

[thick goblet]

however how is the turnip drivers are they well supported. as compare to 8 gen 2.

[candid ridge]

I don’t think the G2 needs to be that much lower given how close the 7+Gen3 seems to be to the 8gen2, but it should be enough that the difference might be worthwhile to some people

[thick goblet]

honestly for 10 dollar, u get stick on top rp6 is a better value buy over rpg2.

[candid ridge]

It’s going to be a niche pick regardless, even moreso than the RP6 already sort of is, but it’d be something

[nova crystal]

The good thing is you can get g2 now

While rp6 is due next year

[muted spindle]

G2 exists for you to buy the rp6 instead

[jaunty urchin]

But is the G2 more efficient? Better suits for folks who just want some switch gaming and lower

[uneven fractal]

If you want switch gaming get the rp6

[muted spindle]

Or, you know, a switch

[slender raven]

G2 is available now I guess. Main selling point

[nova crystal]

So no one has g2 yet even the reviewers?

I usually thought reviewers get devices first then shipping starts for customers

[muted spindle]

Not always(ever?) with retroid

[nova crystal]

I believe so. G2 Gen 2 supposedly an updated version of 8 Gen 2 same as G3 Gen 3 for 8 Gen 3. But 8 gen 2 got so good driver support that its great for emulation and so optimized

[jaunty urchin]

I have this odd hope that the G2 with some driver efficiencies might be better than an 8gen2. It is a newer processor

[jaunty urchin]

True. I got GTA V running via Winlator on my Portal 2. Still amazes me

[candid ridge]

The people who are planning to emulate Switch on these aren’t looking for it to be 100% of the Switch experience

Especially with Switch consoles having baffingly gone up in price with the Switch 2 out.
You can get good deals on them secondhand admittedly

[jaunty urchin]

I have a switch, but I like the idea of carrying one system with me I can play switch, PS2, Dreamcast, etc

[limber surge]

yeah me too, my switch is even hacked but i still play on my odin 2 more

[nova crystal]

I sold my switch, but from time to time i want to play some nintendo 1st party games and yea its good to have a compact all in one device

[jaunty urchin]

I also like the idea of handing my kids a $200 device, not $400+

[muted spindle]

I like to play around with switch emulation too but with the switch i know for sure it will work

Sometimes the performance is shit so it is better to emulate lol

Looking at you Last Faith

[lethal quiver]

Iirc it was a over clocked 7 series according to some people

[dawn river]

Really a nice surprise today to see both dpad on top and analog on top models offered

[nova crystal]

Yea its really hard to estimate. I wish we could have a benchmark by now.

Its funny cuz i dont see any doubts in performance for g3 gen3 all points to a better 8 gen 3 SOC while g2 gen 3 has this issue

[frank briar]

Interesting how they're giving the option to have either dpad or stick in either positions instead of just having a module like the ayaneo

[muted spindle]

Module is way more expensive and complex

[thick goblet]

but retroid listen to the community and change according.
this is truly a great retro company that listen to feedback.
u cannot ask for more.

[nimble plinth]

honestly both options are expensive because now you have 2 molds and 2 pcb for a single device

[limber surge]

it was a pr nightmare

[midnight fiber]

There is no such thing as listening to less than a day of pre-order numbers.

[thick goblet]

what i mean is that retroid willing incur greater production cost to allow for customer to choose between 2 different design. really a good decision from them.

[fiery barn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[untold temple]

ofc

this chip more effiency than 8gen2

[storm surge]

The blaming video is out

[fiery barn]

🙄

So glad I unsubbed months ago

[echo nymph]

oh christ 😂

[toxic locust]

I gotta go watch it now

Ain’t no way he’s comparing it to Taylor swift 😂

[grim seal]

Eh opinions allowed. Just because someone has a hot take doesn't mean they are terrible in any long stretch

[toxic locust]

Does this guy not know that the RP6 still has a dpad top option?

[true nexus]

Sorry did he compare the 865 thor to the rp6?

[west ember]

discord flashbang mode

[uneven fractal]

Don’t think I’ll ever get over the fact we can’t have the original rp6 design… just looks much much comfier with a larger space between the stick and buttons and taller 😭😭

[west ember]

[true nexus]

It's $100 more if you want a similar specced thor

[west ember]

And its kinda apples to oranges

[fiery barn]

You can't expect him to get facts right when he's just talking about a "candybar that plays mario"

[toxic locust]

No he just complained the whole time

[frozen badger]

I hope you all are happy with your cramped and nearly vertically stacked controls for the 3rd time

[toxic locust]

Funniest part of adins video is I’m 99% sure he doesn’t know there’s still a dpad top option

[uneven fractal]

Yes this

[toxic locust]

If I want spacious controls I’m not buying a 5.5 inch device

[frozen badger]

You can still have more comfortable controls on that size of a screen.

Having a 5.5” screen doesn’t mean you have to have cramped controls, but I guess then people complain about “wasted space”

[candid ridge]

It’s more rounded, so that will at least help somewhat, but I also get why the previous design would’ve been great for comfort

[frozen badger]

At least the stick-top layout will make it feel less cramped, but I like the look of the dpad-top better tbh

[carmine wraith]

No need to be spacious : just flatten the back. Bumps are for large devices. If you want to avoid cramps, better beeing able to reposition hands. Other solution, increas height but only 40% wanted that.

[slender raven]

Changing a device after pre order is kinda bad

[muted spindle]

check comments, he didnt lol

[slender raven]

If it wasn't 60/40 on the dpad positioning, you probably wouldn't be getting that too. Killing potentially 40% of your market is a bad idea

But what if it was maybe 10% or 20% who said dpad top? Rip to those pre orders I guess

[frozen badger]

People on Twitter were legitimately saying that it’s okay the have worse ergonomics on the redesigned RP6 because you can just buy a grip for $15 when that’s $15 you may not have had to spend lol

[slender raven]

Would especially suck if people skipped pre order sales of the Odin or konkr or something because they were waiting for dpad top from retroid. If they got a canceled pre order after that...

[thick goblet]

but they start to do a polls found that majority of them dont like their new design. secondly, a group of them wanted stick on top. it better they go back to drawing board to design something better. they listen to feedback.

[slender raven]

Again, doing it after pre orders is bad

[frozen badger]

I think it’s good that they listen to the community, but they should have done it before pre-orders.

[slender raven]

If this was before pre orders it wouldn't be as big a deal

Also polls aren't necessarily the end all be all on this because we do not know how many people who voted are even in the market for a new handheld or bought previous ones from them

[thick goblet]

yes, they should done the polling first before that. retroid must learn from their mistake.
but they listen to feedback and have the courage to change their design.

[slender raven]

It also doesn't really show people who would have bought it either way but have a mild preference for one or the other

[thick goblet]

but they inccur greater production cost by giving you 2 flavour of the design. this will definitely must better than the first where u cannot choose.

[true nexus]

I mean, are we still discussing this? Both parties are getting (most of) what they want, it's over.

[candid fern]

how long is this loop gonna go on lol

what's done is done fr

[frozen badger]

Until it releases lol

[slender raven]

It's not discussing what should be the right direction. Just discussion on how it was carried out.

[thick goblet]

konkr fit also listen to feedback. russ from retro game corp mention that their stick too small. they update their design put 8400 mah battery instead of 8000 mah and put larger stick incase u wanted to change.

[slender raven]

The real question we probably will never get an answer to is what percentage of people skipped it solely because of the stick positioning/only bought it for the stick positioning. That'd probably be the real margin of the change

[thick goblet]

company listen feedback from customer or from community is always great. usually u will get better design afterwards.

[slender raven]

For konkr it was done before people paid money for it.

But also those are the sort of changes that are almost certainly just pure upgrades and not major overhauls

[candid fern]

I feel like there’s a sense of hyper vigilance here thinking this was some sort of planned act on Retroid’s part

[slender raven]

Just a really bad look to radically change a product after you've already sold it.

[candid ridge]

We can talk about how they handled it all we want, but they’re giving a solution that makes both sides happy.
Don’t see much reason to discuss this further

[thick goblet]

konkr fit has great design as ayaneo has create so many expensive android device. they are kind of experience in this. konkr fit ergonomic is also much better than rp5 and rp6 for my opinion.

[cold canopy]

That's what everyone was talking about for hours yesterday lol.

It's not a hot take.

[slender raven]

I'm aware

[candid ridge]

It’s valid if how they handled it makes you not wanna buy it for that alone for the record

[sick raven]

im buying five

[candid ridge]

It’s not a good look by any means

I also won’t ignore the stuff they did right here.
But man, is my patience for these kind of shenanigans wearing even thinner than it already did

[thick goblet]

rp6 after redesign is even better for 209 for 8 gen 2 is too good to miss.

[candid ridge]

Personally would at the least not recommend pre-ordering

Buying it after it’s come out and reviews say it’s good is another thing altogether

[thick goblet]

agreed u take risk but you pay lower prices.

[cold canopy]

Buying a product that only exists as PNGs on social media is never a great move.

[slender raven]

Maybe next time they'll give more than a 1-2 day heads up before pre ordering so people can get interested anyways...

[thick goblet]

retroid is well known retro company

[trail fjord]

I like the new design a lot

[candid fern]

Anyone got a time machine to truly make everyone happy?

[trail fjord]

And with the stick options

[cold canopy]

I was trying to explain this to someone on Twt yesterday. They were like "this clears the Odin 2 for price to performance" and I'm like, yeah, probably! But it doesn't exist! And he blocked me... 💀

[trail fjord]

I might be convinced

[candid ridge]

There’s people that do want a dpad top 8g2 device.
There’s no one else in the market who does or will do it.
There is a good amount of people who already own an 8g2 device or plan to get one better than 8g2, but not everyone has one yet

This came in at a good time

[thick goblet]

their product should be slightly better. but they suffer recall issue for flip 2 and rp mini.

risk vs reward

[alpine shard]

I actually like the button in front

[slender raven]

If this was the original design it'd be likely uncontroversial tbh

[alpine shard]

But it seems I'm in the minority

[slender raven]

Probably your typical arguments of wanting a stick on top, "I'm tired of all glass devices", "I want my device to feel like a toy" but I doubt it'd be massive

[candid ridge]

I was more in-between/indiferrent to the og design

[slender raven]

Same

[cold canopy]

The whole redesign was allegedly prompted by low pre-order numbers right? But there could have been other reasons besides the chin buttons. Feels like they jumped to conclusions.

[slender raven]

Chris said "you told us loudly you didn't want it" so it could be sales number, social media posts, or whatever else

[alpine shard]

I really wanted the buttons at the front

[true nexus]

Yeah, preorders weren't even opened for a day I don't think

[slender raven]

But also 2-3 day announcement to pre order window...

[trail fjord]

Chris is back? I thought he left?

[alpine shard]

Made it look psp esque

[slender raven]

He was back after about a month

[dawn comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEeSkyo9mWQ

[trail fjord]

Ah

[dawn comet]

Adin Walls blaming Retroid fans again

[trail fjord]

Also the RP6 looks like a slightly different RP5 and honestly

I like that

[slender raven]

He said yesterday on Twitter he liked the original ro6 design

[sick raven]

stop hatewatching

[slender raven]

Wulff didn't really seem to have a comment on the design but definitely supported a dpad on top

[sick raven]

i don't even know that guy

[trail fjord]

Well, at least we have both options

[slender raven]

Bob Wulff. Wulff Den

[trail fjord]

I'm almost convinced to swap out my Odin 2 for one of these

[slender raven]

Russ was for the stick on top. Can't remember his opinion on the design

[sick raven]

wait isn't this the thor screen?

[lethal quiver]

No

[sick raven]

it currently has some reports of the screen having retention issues right?

[slender raven]

Isn't the rp6 5.5 inches? The Thor is 6"

[trail fjord]

RP5 is 5.5" yes

[cold canopy]

With the OG design it would have been very close in size to the Switch Lite but with ergo bumps

Have they mentioned if rp6 will be compatible with the existing RP dock?

[candid fern]

One thing we can all agree on is that we love to play Mario on our candybars

[sick raven]

i hate mario

[candid fern]

crap!

[cold canopy]

We can all agree that we can't agree on anything

inb4 someone disagrees

[toxic locust]

I disagree

[dense latch]

do we have info on the dimensions

[idle kindle]

I don’t want to start a war but 4:3 on 16:9 is an abomination

[candid fern]

Mario loves all people and all ratios

[autumn solstice]

Odin 3 + RPG2 + RP6’s

[celest pond]

So much choice

[muted spindle]

sad

[dawn comet]

But they all look the same lol

[celest pond]

It seems the subtle differences are lost on you, it does take a refined taste to appreciate them

[muted spindle]

all handhelds evolve to odin

[dawn comet]

My favorite design was original Odin 2

[celest pond]

Every handheld eventually returns to crab

[muted spindle]

we need powkiddy

[toxic locust]

This is very depressing

[sick raven]

the rp6 is the missing link

[trail fjord]

Welp.

[true nexus]

I mean technically Ayn copied Retroid, who copied Ayaneo

[limber surge]

at least we still have dpad top

[toxic locust]

I will say the RP5, RP6, and Odin 3 all looking the same is quite depressing. However I currently own none of them to the experience will be new to me with the RP6

[thick goblet]

seem like android retro handheld reach saturation point.
will people who just bought their rp5 willing to buy rpg2 or rp6.
really diificult choice to made
rp6 8gen2 at 209.
but konkr fit at 239
no oled only lcd.
144 hz refresh rate.
6 inches screen
g3gen3 processor
( base on 8 gen 3) much faster then 8 gen 2.
or ayn thor where it got 2 screens still powerful 8 gen 2 can play ds/3ds on 2 screens.
how do consumer can make the best choice. difficult decision to made.

[onyx orchid]

good job everyone. now the rp6 has even less reason to launch preorders so soon after the rp5

[true nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-17038186950213244823

All because no front hotkeys?

[toxic locust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

People take this shit way too seriously

[onyx orchid]

i would have understood launching the RPG2 right now but the RP6 feels like it was rushed at the same time

[balmy quartz]

If all this controversy gets me a stick top horizontal with a SD8G2 and a high-refresh-rate OLED in neon frickin' orange, then it was all worth it.

[onyx orchid]

I just ordered the konkr instead lol

[haughty gale]

Exactly, I want the crystal silver dpad for my white Thor lol

[candid ridge]

They genuinely cooked with the color options for the RP6

I do wanna see what they look like in person, but I’m very partial towards the Silver option and the Orange one atm

[haughty gale]

All this drama because Sega made a controller layout designed with 5th gen 3D platformers in mind 26 years ago smh

[sick raven]

im buying every color

dpad on top only of course

[balmy quartz]

But I need a neon orange fake Vita to go with my neon orange real Vita.

[haughty gale]

This, and there is more space between stick and face button which causes less interference and layout cramping. I don’t know why people are so insistent on demanding everything look exactly the same as the most bland candy bar design that has been done 1000 times. I know someone will claim the smaller bezel and millimeters less in height makes it more compact but who the hell is truly pocketing a device like this anyways?

[hot gorge]

silver one looks beautiful

[toxic locust]

Agreed

[hot gorge]

I'm a huge sucker for transparent buttons and dpad

[toxic locust]

That’s the one I plan on getting

[bold needle]

Ay they finally did a handheld with d-pad top/bottom options! If I was still into buying handhelds, I'd be financially ruined from buying both lol

[honest dust]

Damn, they even killed the Crystal buttons

[cold canopy]

Not for silver and purple right?

[frigid widget]

The light purple goes so hard

[frigid widget]

Actually, I am now buying it lol

[crisp oak]

Agreed! I'mma go light purple D-pad top, cause I'm one of those weirdos who does want the D-pad on top for a SD8 Gen 2 device lol

[frigid widget]

I'm a stick top guy but I'm glad we both get something!

[balmy quartz]

Orange and Hannah Montana are both interesting colors. This is the kind of innovation we seek.

[cold canopy]

Yeah I'm impressed with the color selection.

I wish orange had color matched buttons and sticks tho

I know it's a throwback to the older devices

[exotic siren]

people are so familiar with retro gaming that they hate what enforces the familiarity more.

like, there's this inner unhinged madness aspect to it when you've played the same ps2 game on so many devices that you now hate whatever can't play that game a -tiny- bit better

[cold canopy]

I played a bunch of PS2 on the RP Flip 1 so my standards are pretty low haha

[exotic siren]

kek

[cold canopy]

The fan was like a tiny jet engine 😭

[exotic siren]

most here don't come from emulating on x86, so they don't see how good something can be before they step down to like... t618.
SO the upward grind is real, and frustrating, because there's no ceiling set.

[exotic siren]

my 405v's fan goes nuts too when i make it play Unreal Tournament 2004

[limber surge]

glad i have the gammaos beta for it which doesn't have any fan functionality at all

[exotic siren]

ouch

[limber surge]

nah i actually like it, i don't think the t618 really needs a fan at all

and honestly i don't push it because what's the point, i just like the form factor

[toxic locust]

Now that retroid has stick top with Nintendo ABXY, Ayn needs to stick to Xbox ABXY

[sharp trellis]

I mean with all this talk of "modernising designs" etc I'm actually surprised more companies don't use the Xbox ABXY layout

[cold canopy]

The problem is thanks to Nintendo, nobody can agree on what modern means.

Playing NMS on Switch 2 last night almost gave me an aneurysm.

[slender raven]

A significant amount of people getting these handhelds only get them to play switch and with how often it comes up, struggle to understand remapping controls.

There was one recently with confusion on why the A button on the device did what the B button said it'd do on screen on an ayn Odin 2 while emulating a switch game.

[limber surge]

just give us a blank layout option please

[civic sentinel]

Now that I think about it, this is the best switch lite replacement device. Still maintaining 5.5” display size and footprint, double refresh rate, proper turnip driver support and much needed performance for switch. You also get oled and hdmi out. I can’t wait to get my hands on this

[quasi creek]

I was looking at my rp5 and measuring the cutouts for the stick and the dpad and i honestly think it's not that bad to have two different skus

im kinda curious to see how both the dpad on top and stick on top devices dissasemble once people actually get their hands on them lol

im pretty confident they'll be able to share the same shell

which is kinda cool because i wonder if this opens up the possibility of swapping your layout down the line lol

ope just kidding looked at the mockup images and noticed there's no cutout on the glass for the dpad

still wonder how they'll do it though

[glossy ledge]

minority is happy now with the new design. hooray!

[snow tangle]

I wish we could see a real life sample of the colour before preordering the discount

[glossy ledge]

the orange looks nice...

[novel inlet]

It's the iPhone 17 Pro orange...I think this will be the most popular color

[mossy oasis]

Great to hear!

[exotic siren]

i looked at what g2 gen2 could do and instantly thought "x86 handheld replacement"

it's reaching close to ps4 levels, while 8gen4(aka 8 elite) is starting to hit ps5 levels

https://youtu.be/nJaH5y4mQCQ?t=113

2:58 where he's running through a small patch of trees and undergrowth is impressive. only problem is at this level, you're dispersing 8-9w of heat.

[untold temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ohno-smh-wrong-no-gif-1591070933604987795

[ruby canyon]

Kind of impressive on the efficiency of the chip. My Dimensity 1100 can easily pull 7-8 watts at peak and gets way worse performance

[wise fulcrum]

i guess you still can't easily change the button layout for rp6?

[glossy ledge]

any reasons why someone shouldn't get an rp6? (apart from owning similar devices)... any downside of this console?

[untold temple]

rp6 dont have downsides

as device, but it wont be shipping in near time

when G2 insta will be (already)

[glossy ledge]

i couldnt find downside too.

dont mind if it goes 6 inches, and 8000 mah.. but not a big issue. it's a beautiful device

[frozen badger]

Only real flaws are the cramped and stacked controls and the speakers can be often blocked by your hands while playing because of where they’re placed. All the same flaws the RP5 and G2 have.

[frigid widget]

Black has crystal

[untold temple]

on top looks fire

[thick goblet]

anyone supporting rpg2 ??? u can get it earlier, and it is 199 , 10 dollar cheaper.

[frigid widget]

No personally, the 8gen2 is a known quantity, crazy supported, AND stronger

Plus better screen, better wifi, better battery lol

[thick goblet]

can u imagine rpg2 can get zero vote after 24 hours. no love for rpg2.

[frigid widget]

It's fine if it does what you want and you get it now. It just doesn't compare when 10$ more gets you a noticeably better device

Both can be true

[untold temple]

peoples still dont understand the fact ... they can get already g2, but RP6 will wait 2-3m

[wise fulcrum]

i want smthn that will play pc indie games on the go

my only gripe is that button placement

[thick goblet]

if play gamehub, it better to take rp6 and if possible 12G ram version.

[wise fulcrum]

likely yeah

[glossy ledge]

its ok, retroid caters for all minority/ majority

[true nexus]

You really latched onto that for some reason

[upbeat gate]

For G2 it's really the color options and no wait time

If you were feeling cautious about RP5 then this is fine to get. RP6 is insane value, but this market is evolving every few months and even the span of half a year could introduce something that'll cause a massive wave

Something to bear in mind is that RP6 will release in 2026. It'll definitely be a standout handheld that year, but there's always something around the corner

[glossy ledge]

agree, when rp6 is ready, someone will be announcing some higher upgrade at 230 range, early bird at 210

[nova crystal]

I went G2 If I want a new one I bet there's a new version next year with another beefy SoC

[untold temple]

someone)) konkr or new aya sub brand

They can just wipe entire market

[thick goblet]

yes premium retro handheld is very competitive.
now got
rpg2 ( heard 2 time faster than s865)
rp6 ( 8 gen 2 but only 209 it is a steal )
ayn thor ( 8 gen 2) ( best 3ds/ds emulation)
konkr fit ( g3gen3 fastest that have most drivers supported at 239 it is a steal also)
ayn odin 3 and konkr fit 8 elite
( 8 elite, is the drivers still in development, it is true now eden
emulator help 8 elite chipset to
emulate switch well , heard gamehub will be great )
all these are available and price are also quite competitive.
year 2025 is one of the best year for android retro handheld.

will rp6 can beat all the above competitive devices.
last time only ayn and retroid.
now ayaneo 2.0 enter the ring.

[balmy anchor]

If they ever ship

[alpine shard]

Will they still sell the ones with button in front

[sly glen]

no

[alpine shard]

That's a shame
I really like the look

[quick abyss]

@honest dust $5

[plain cipher]

$5 dark

[thick goblet]

Now RP6 is 204 dollar unbelievable.

[echo nymph]

a smaller oled odin 2 is honestly very tempting 😄

[novel inlet]

They'll cancel the coupon if everyone uses it 😂

[honest dust]

The grip is $15 so you save -$10

[thick goblet]

Just dont buy the grip please. or buy from aliexpress RP6 grip third party should be cheaper.

[civic sentinel]

The Retroid one is quality though and not a 3d print. It’s worth the $15

[toxic locust]

If $15 is too much for your budget then I don’t think you should be buying a $200 handheld

[sick raven]

remember to buy all the diy buttons

[alpine shard]

The rp5 was like $200-$210 for early bird
How did they made this one so cheap despite the upgrades in chipset and screen

[west ember]

Tbh, if you're not focused on PC or Switch emulation, the 8gb RP6 is a fuck steal

[merry anchor]

Could be that AYN still had a ton of leftover SD 8 Gen 2 chipsets lying around
That's just a guess though

[thick goblet]

Very simple.
Competition from Ayaneo 2.0
Konkr pocket Fit g3gen3 model at 239

[merry anchor]

Though now the RP6 is a straight upgrade over the Odin 2 Mini, at least on paper

I know I still prefer the look of the O2M

[sick raven]

losing money every sale but making up for it in volume

[alpine shard]

Idk which ones to choose
Is the konkr with 8gen3 really worth the money

[alpine shard]

Wish it was the same size too

[sick raven]

depends on what you play/want to play

but please don't talk about snapdragon performance here you'll summon the graph/benchmark spam guy

[frigid widget]

Yes.
The rp6 also worth the money

You can't go wrong really

[alpine shard]

Saw a guy playing tears of the kingdom at a constant 30 fps on the 8gen3 device

That alone might be worth the price

Doesn't konkr has like bigger battery too
But worse screen

[frigid widget]

Bro tbh I never believe those anymore lol

[thick goblet]

G3gen3 is much faster and more powerful than 8Gen2.
In theory , your Switch emulation and Gamehub will perform much better.
G3Gen3 in theory has the best of both worlds. very fast cpu and gpu and got turnip drivers support.

[merry anchor]

RP5 is pretty close to the O2M in size, and RP6 is looking to be similar to that again. Unless you're talking about the ergo bumps

[west ember]

Both are worth the money, just depends on if you want the better chip of the Konkr for better PC and Switch emulation or the 8g2 for complete dominance over anything android or emulation related

[frigid widget]

I've seen too many people fudging performance vs actual experience. Like windwaker starting island type shit. I need multiple reports minimum, but realistically I'd have to try it myself

[merry anchor]

What would be a good test for Wind Waker performance, would you say?

The stealth section after you leave Outset?

[civic sentinel]

I think this is the way I’m leaning. I have a Switch 2 and PC handheld already. I see no need in emulating these systems and getting worse performance on them by emulating

So yeah, 8gb/128 is enough for my usecase

[frigid widget]

Couple of places, but early on, the forest section in the opening island. The whole interaction, talking to tetra, fighting etc.

The fortress right after with the fog is also solid.

Later game would be the korok area where you are in some kinda cave is solid, but that's much later.

[quick abyss]

I like the way you think

That’s the only right logic

[west ember]

Same here. I have my Mini PC, which covers all my bases, im going to buy another Switch 2 soonish as I sold mines, and tbh, the only things I need covered that my RP Mini V2 can't do as well are PSP, Gamecube, and PS2, which I found more comfortable on the O2 Mini when I had it

[fiery barn]

Wow they're cancelling all existing pre-orders

Gutted if you were in UK/EU and woke up at like 2am to try and get in the first batch

[thick goblet]

Yes, RP6 has 5.5 inches 120hz OLED screen.
Konkr fit only LCD but 144hz and 6 inches.
If u need a bigger screen estate especially for game streaming and pc games from game hub
choose Konkr Fit.
If u want more compact size handheld and need OLED screen choose RP6.

[alpine shard]

Can they release the one with 5 inch

[twin storm]

https://tenor.com/view/they-look-identical-corridor-crew-they're-almost-the-same-they're-very-similar-gif-1571371994679334733

[civic sentinel]

I feel like Odin 2 Portal is a better choice for that usecase than Konkr Fit

[wild reef]

The only thing against the Odin 2 Portal is its non-pocketable size. It's literally the only thing

Oh, and also the fact that you can't pick Indigo with the Base model....

[frozen badger]

Waiting a little bit for a much better price-to-performance ratio?? NOOOOOO

[candid fern]

what, you think we all got the virtue of patience? you think my soul WASN’T entangled in capitalist ideals and needing a product as soon as possible?

[thick goblet]

I like Odin 2 portal but the price at 329 for base model is a bit expensive now compare to both RP6 and Konkr FIT.

[twin storm]

This

[thick goblet]

Ayn Odin 2 series must slash price to compete with Ayaneo and Retroid.

[west ember]

They really don't since they now have the Thor and are about the release the Odin 3, which are probably their bigger priority

[honest dust]

I mean, is there really another way to see this? With the $5 coupon you are at best $30 away from the KONKR who is smaller than the RP6 with grip despite having a bigger screen

[west ember]

Plus with the Konkr and Retroid devices coming out, thats pretty less stress on them to compete in that bracket and focus on their own stuff

plus the Portal is still selling well despite the reveal of these

[toxic locust]

Is it really ?