Ayaneo Pocket Ace

[near copper]

But man

This might actually be the one I cave to buy if the price is right in my budget

[blissful mirage]

Stick caps shouldn't be too hard to replace, or at least that's my hope

I know they're easy to remove, if nothing else

I was hoping that Aya might include bigger caps with the device, but it seems unlikely because of them doubling down on the small ones

[near copper]

Probably should be able to 3d print or find some online that work well

[blissful mirage]

Need to ask

Are the sticks themselves technically the same as the Pocket Evo's?

Just with different caps

Because you can buy caps for the Pocket Evo

Double checked

They are absolutely not the same stick lol

Oh wait

Pocket Micro and DMG can use the same caps

And the Ace has the same sticks as the DMG's

Meaning that Switch style Gulikit caps should fit no problem

Here we go

[tight crest]

I can't be the only one who read the name of the white color as "Lightbleed white"

[blazing hare]

They should start selling bigger caps you can take entirely off like the Legion Go and just pop off and replace for people that want a bigger surface area

[blissful mirage]

I could be mistaken but I was under the impression that these sticks do just pop off

Got confirmation that they do

[night furnace]

You already can on the Micro (which I have and swapped with black GuliKit stick tops from my original AYANEO Pocket Air), and it’s the same with the DMG sticks (which I don’t have, but I have enough Retroid and Odin 2 devices that can do the same, and people have verified they’re the same).

[blissful mirage]

I might just swap the caps with the ones on my MagicX tbh

[night furnace]

So hopefully the Ace will use the same sticks as the DMG so that we can also swap the sticks on it.

[blissful mirage]

They confirmed that it's the same stick

Right here

[blazing hare]

Nice , haven’t bought a Aya Android anything yet so this would be my first thats not a PC from them

But does that include the entire stem too or just the tops ?

I like my sticks a bit taller and with range , I wanted to like my RG 556 but the sticks were pretty terrible not only being short and tiny but with no range

[hearty saffron]

You can also consider reaching out to some Etsy sellers to inquire if they would be interested in making full-size sticks for Pocket Ace

[blazing hare]

True but but Etsy can also be hit or miss

[hearty saffron]

This is pretty good: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1809118677/ultrafine-textured-finished-full-size , never hurt to ask them

[night furnace]

Entire stem, since that’s what’s used to keep the stick in place.

You’ve basically got the stem acting as a socket where you insert the actual pivot-point stick into, so it ensures you’re not just relying on a tiny connection point.

[blissful mirage]

Ayaneo's recent sticks have had a lot of range because they're barely recessed

So no reason to worry over stick height

Pocket DMG has a lot of range

The cap is just tiny

[night furnace]

Only issue with that is you can’t decrease the stick height lower than that inner-stick, you can only make it taller.

[blazing hare]

Thanks for the info guys , now the only thing to wait for us asking price, I really think this will be Aya’s biggest seller yet if they don’t go crazy on price

[near copper]

Everything is lining up for it

Let's see if they'll make cross the finish

[blissful mirage]

Apparently this is gonna be the last GX3 Gen 2 device they make?

[night furnace]

Yeah, that’s why I’m thinking they might legit sell it for cheaper than usual, assuming they just want to get rid of their remaining unused stock of the chip.

[blissful mirage]

Their later GX3 Gen 2 devices have also just been cheaper anyway

Pocket Evo is a lot cheaper than Pocket S, for example

[sand gyro]

Think they're DMG. Which everyone loved. Thought EVO was different

Oh. You answered yourself

Sorry

[blissful mirage]

Yeah I didn't know if Evo was the same type of stick as DMG

[sand gyro]

On the DMG you can make it shorter. By just designing caps where the stick goes further into the actual thumb dishes head. Don't think anyone has done it. But you could probably shorten it by 2-3mm

Not sure how comfortable that'd be either tho

[blissful mirage]

Honestly I might find it a bit more comfortable that way

Your thumb won't have to reach as far to get on top of the stick

[sand gyro]

I'll take a look and see if I can do it on my DMG this week like there's def a couple mm of material inside the cap cavity that could be removed. Just not sure if that'd throw the whole axis feel off. Would basically become like short throw sticks

[blissful mirage]

I think MagicX's caps are very short

But I don't have mine on-hand

Lent it to a friend

[night furnace]

Exactly, I’m talking about the fact you can’t make it shorter than the actual inner stick, but you can make it taller without issue.

You can make the replacement stick shorter than the stock one, but it would have to still be tall enough for the inner stick to fit properly.

Also god, I hate that I can’t remember what that particular component is called, since it would make talking about this stuff much easier if I could call it something other than “inner stick”.

[sand gyro]

I mean I guess you could clip inner stick 😆

I think the bigger issue is that there's no bowl underneath. So depending on how wide you want the dish to be, your gonna be limited by by hitting the front of the case I'd you get too much shorter

Like with the stock DMG dish, you could get 1 extra mm shorter. Replacing it with a nub, you could shorten it 2-3 mm

[night furnace]

Yup, but at least with the videos we’ve currently seen, it looks like it might stick out enough to make smaller low profile sticks work (they wouldn’t be as comfortable as stock sticks though).

[sand gyro]

Yeah. Stinks they didn't just recess it. But that seems to be the style they're shooting for

[night furnace]

It would be neat if they actually took that into account by making the inner stick itself shorter, and then provided alternate stick tops that were shorter and smaller, or some that were actually taller (like the more advanced Xbox controllers that make it so you can swap taller or shorter sticks into the controller by twisting them off).

[broken jolt]

this console reminds me of the RP2S in a good way

but I wonder, is the d-pad the same as on the their pocket micro?

[blissful mirage]

Hard to say

Ayaneo don't seem to stick to one type of D-pad like Retroid and Ayn do

Visually, it looks the same as the D-pad on the Ayaneo 2 and Pocket Evo

Russ found diagonals on those to be too sensitive

But hopefully it's better

[inland lake]

Does this thing have a headphone jack?

[sand gyro]

Hmmm. Think it's new dpad. Cause why not 😆. It has no arrows like micro. Isn't as rounded as Evo. And isn't segmented like 2

[blissful mirage]

Nay

One of the main drawbacks of it

[blissful mirage]

You're right huh

Evo's D-pad is rounder

[sand gyro]

Closest it resembles is the micro/classic. Could just be that they didn't do arrow imprint

Or that it'll be on the final and not proto

[blissful mirage]

Russ has a great track record for putting out reviews before the early bird period ends at least

[sand gyro]

Still feel like my fav dpad was the cube. But could be that the ergos just save it

[blissful mirage]

So I don't have to pre-order before knowing if it passes the Contra test

Or if it's hadokenable or shoryukenable

[sand gyro]

Yeah. It's probably fine. Haha

[blissful mirage]

Cube was the disc, right?

[sand gyro]

Yeah

[blissful mirage]

My current controller has a disc D-pad and it's really good

Vader 3 Pro

Ig people are always put off by disc D-pads because of the 360 as well as the fact that most of them didn't grow up with a Saturn

[sand gyro]

Yeah. I really like the Vader. Honestly discs have just always given me the best feel of 360° movement on a dpad

Any top downs or fighting games I just really like them on

[somber vortex]

Just saying....

[blissful mirage]

I wonder how well that D-pad actually functioned

There is literally zero pivot

[sand gyro]

I can use button dpads. But they aren't my favorite

[blissful mirage]

I expect it to be more functional than the Joy-Con "D-pad" at least lol

[jade hare]

Yeah, I thought of the GP2X too when I first saw it, heh

[hearty saffron]

This is the lowest the cap can go

[sand gyro]

Yeah. Basically what I expected. Low profiles can be fun tho

[broken venture]

Thats ridiculous looking I love it

[broken jolt]

Lol, are those pimples? 😛

[hallow marlin]

Dual nipple mod

[blissful mirage]

hot

[jolly rock]

That thing is so damn sexy

The whole device not just the nipple

[sand gyro]

Yeah. The etchless concave/convex buttons are sick. Not mine btw 😄. Tho I am printing some now for mine

[pliant seal]

I wish more companies would explore sliders for devices where analog sticks are not meant as the primary input method

[sand gyro]

Especially devices pitched as pocketable

[pliant seal]

This does also have triggers so that’s also a hit against pocketing it

[blissful mirage]

GIVE ME INLINE ANALOGUE TRIGGERS

THEY EXIST

[muted dirge]

inline analogue triggers, that's a new one

[blissful mirage]

Nuh uh

[muted dirge]

I've seen people wish for all sorts of outlandish things but inline analogue triggers definitely take the cake

[blissful mirage]

They fucking exist

Analog triggers on this

[sand gyro]

Was about to say. It's not like the technology couldn't exist. Lol

Also doesn't shock me that Nintendo did it. Will always admire their efforts

Def way more outlandish shit has been wished for, especially by me

[blissful mirage]

The actual analogue function went totally unused unfortunately

I still don't get why they didn't let you use that controller for GameCube games

[sand gyro]

Haha sounds about right. They always create amazing hardware that is only barely taken advantage of

I mean I get it. PlayStation and Xbox tend to create little incentive to implement it

But I loved the first party main line titles that took advantage of it

[sharp solar]

From what I understand the Wii did complete hardware emulation of the GameCube and things like Classic Controller support would require some sort of additional software layer which would have, in turn, impacted GameCube performance. It's the same reason why (IIRC) you can't use the Home button to exit GC games

[magic cargo]

These were literally the worst analogue triggers ever made though. I threw up in my mouth a bit remembering how those felt

[sand gyro]

As a proof of concept they exist tho

[magic cargo]

True

[blissful mirage]

They're effectively the same triggers that GameCube has

[daring hornet]

Well it was just an over clocked GameCube

[daring hornet]

ya

double ram

[sand gyro]

https://youtu.be/ZXJrQNIoDUA?si=negYqYOAn0RA6go7

[viscid shell]

I like that it got a Chin and it is for button and front firing speakers.

[blazing hare]

Just my own opinion but think this is the best looking and designed Android handheld from AYA so far , compact , powerful and great screen ..... personally think it looks better than the DMG

[muted dirge]

I fear this is going to be too close to the RP5 in size to justify its existence

maybe if it had been stick top

[jolly rock]

What if this ends being 200$

[blissful mirage]

Not a hope in hell

Under 300 is already a bit of a pipe dream

[blissful mirage]

This is only gonna be a bit bigger than the RP Mini actually

[sand gyro]

Well and if in us multiply by 150%

At that point I'm probably out. But I'll live vicariously through my foreign handheld friends

[blissful mirage]

Well hopefully it launches and ships before tariffs go into effect

[sand gyro]

Wew buddy. That ain't happening.

Des minimis exemption ends May 2nd

[blissful mirage]

But no prices yet is a bit of a knock on that notion

[sand gyro]

Well they won't adjust their prices

We'll just pay more to get it delivered

[blissful mirage]

I mean price reveals are an indicator of it being close to launch

[sand gyro]

Oh yeah. Totally

[blissful mirage]

Like, preorders are already open by the time Russ has a video out on these devices, and that's generally a month before the official release

[sand gyro]

To be fair it might go up in price anyway. Tarrifs hurt everyone. Even if it's all sourced inside China, it still increases costs of transport and other stuff

[sand gyro]

Also just thinking about it. Official release in a month won't make the cut anyway. So id assume we'll just have to pay the 50% extra on whatever they price it at in the US at least

[tough yarrow]

glass front why

[blissful mirage]

To annoy you in particular

[pearl arrow]

The used Market should get on fire soon and anybody that has collected quite a few of these should be able to sell their used devices to make up the difference to buy something newer like this that's why I'm scooping up all the deals I can get right now

[blazing hare]

Tariffs are actually doing everyone a favor by making things slightly more expensive , now people can second guess purchases they really don’t need and reduce E-Waste .

[broken mauve]

any news on when they will reveal the price?

[blissful mirage]

Nay

I'll get an email for when their Indiegogo gets updated though

I'd probably give it another month?

Ayaneo's track record is usually announcing a device, prices being unveiled a month later with preorders opening, and then the actual device releases about half a year after the initial announcement

That's how it's been for most of their last few devices

Ayaneo Pocket Classic is the one exception

It released only a couple weeks after announcement, but the Pocket Classic is barely a new device, being a Pocket Micro without sticks

[daring hornet]

Died 2024

Born 2025

Welcome back rp2s

[viscid shell]

The only thing I don't like about anyone is their dpad has no texture.

[sand gyro]

Time to break out the sandpaper

[blazing hare]

Just apply a couple of small grip tape cutouts

[muted dirge]

oh so it wasn't just the DMG

yeah, the dpad on the DMG is weirdly smooth, no texture or grippiness at all

it's not a deal breaker but not the best dpad out there feel wise

[sand gyro]

Just got my ace delivered

[stiff mural]

Can’t be the ace, that handheld knows how to recess sticks and maybe even works with headphones

[blissful mirage]

Yeah I think the people at Ayaneo probably just find recessed sticks to be ugly

Or at least not as nice looking as non-recessed sticks

[stiff mural]

the sticks on the ace being non-recessed and tiny look like skin tags on an old dog

[muted dirge]

but they'll be very comfortable to use right?

https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

[sand gyro]

Honestly so hard to say these days. Need a YouTuber to just 3D print like 30 shapes and test them out with multiple people. Lol

[blissful mirage]

About 25 hours and 25 minutes from now

[jolly rock]

The retro handheld truly knows you

[blazing hare]

Hopefully price too

[hexed sand]

i remember calling the rp5 a death knell for the ktr1 but if this is priced under $500 it is the hangman

[muted dirge]

by the time the rp5 came out the ktr1 was already long dead

[hexed sand]

oh sorry i actually said that for the Ayaneo Micro

because it was a 3:2 running the same chip albeit weird

but i agree with you, the r1 was probably dead by then too

[broken mauve]

If it's $350 or less I'm buying it

[blissful mirage]

Can you cancel IGG orders before they ship?

[broken mauve]

yes

[blazing hare]

Needs to be under $300 for me to buy and it has nothing to do with the actual price if that makes sense , the Switch 2 is around the corner and with enough handhelds already and not enough hands It needs to make sense with the value proposition as I only have limited time for gaming these days , time is money and I never have enough time

[broken mauve]

It looks like a worse odin 2 mini from Ayaneo, so yeah, I think it should be priced at around $300 as well. But knowing Ayaneo we can't really expect a good price on it.

[blissful mirage]

I've heard the Odin 2 Mini screen really isn't that nice

[molten coral]

The chipset will drive the cost higher, I imagine it will be close to the DMG in price, probably more because ayaneo

[blissful mirage]

It's definitely gonna be cheaper than DMG

Since the screen isn't OLED

[molten coral]

It gets a bad rap, it’s honestly fine when you don’t have someone telling you it’s trash. It isn’t OLED but it’s a sharp nice screen

[molten coral]

That’s fair, but it has an extra stick,

And we know from the pocket classic vs micro that they charge at least $10 each for those

[blissful mirage]

Honestly the extra stick might bring the price down

Since DMG has that fancy touch pad

[molten coral]

That’s fair, if it’s under 300 I might be interested, but I doubt it

[blissful mirage]

Well just have to see ig

I'm expecting about $310 for the early bird price

Apparently this is Ayaneo's last device with this chipset, so it might be a bit lower

[broken mauve]

mini led should still be better than lcd, tho

I'm also a bit concerned about battery life on this

[blissful mirage]

6000mAh

Same as Pocket DMG

[blissful mirage]

Gonna be honest, idk what the fuck mini led is lol

[sand gyro]

The most important question 😆

And yeah. I wasn't super impressed with the o2m screen. You could mess with saturation to get it to a more vibrant point, but I actually like my KT-R1 screen better

[broken mauve]

I mean, at the end of the day it's all subjective

[sand gyro]

I guess. I think most people would agree the KTR1 is more vibrant out the box at least. Wish I had my o2m still so I could show side by side

[broken mauve]

There are a lot of things to consider than just how vibrant a screen is. Blacks are much better on a mini led than on a lcd, almost as good as an oled. Brightness is usually better on mini leds as well.

[blazing hare]

I actually think the Ace looks better than the Mini but that's entirely subjective

[blissful mirage]

I'm not a fan of the vignetting tbh

[molten coral]

It’s just not noticeable when I’m playing games, and even in most normal situations.
Sure if I crank the brightness to max and put white on black text on in a dark room I could see it, but normal gameplay doesn’t really show vignetting at all in my experience

I’m sure this screen is very nice though, I’m excited to see actual footage

[fluid night]

People definitely complained about it not having an OLED. But then again neither did any of the retro consoles and I wouldn’t dare to use a shader with bezels on an OLED. I guess it depends on how you want to relive your memories. I‘m really not a fan of the punchy colors and aggressive red of my Retroid‘s Amoled

[muted dirge]

this is Ayaneo we are talking about lol

highly likely it's the same price as the DMG, if not higher, specially with that chip

[blissful mirage]

IT'S THE SAME FUCKING CHIP

HARDWARE WISE IT IS THE EXACT SAME AS THE DMG ASIDE FROM A DIFFERENT SCREEN AND TWO STICKS

And both of those component changes result in a device that's cheaper to make

[sand gyro]

If higher it's for some combination of these 3 reasons. One, it's newer. Two, glass front. And 3, there will still be additional new cost in PCB, etc.

Whether or it's higher or lower probably comes down to how much the touchpad and wheel on the DMG cost vs those 3

[blissful mirage]

I can't imagine a glass front actually costs that much

Since MagicX were planning on having a P65 device with one

[sand gyro]

Yeah but those don't really exist

So it's hard to say. It's def more expensive than a plastic front and normal screen. We just don't know how much

But like there's no guarantee it'll somehow be cheaper.

I don't know if Ayaneo would even allow that. Kind of undercuts a previous product

[blissful mirage]

Hm, true

Guess we'll find out tomorrow

I'm trying to think about the RP5's price since that's got the glass front

Actually

@sand gyro

Pocket Evo has a full glass front, that bigass OLED screen, a huge battery, and also modular controls

And is $40 more than the DMG

[broken venture]

I dont think pocket evo has modular controls, that's the ayaneo 3

They do look basically identical though

[blissful mirage]

oh

Fuck

Because Russ made a video about it not too long ago, and I knew the most recent Ayaneo device had modular controls, I thought that was it

And as you said, they look really alike lol

Well damn

In any case, I see it maybe making a $10 difference

So the Ace might be closer to the DMG in cost than I'd hope

[broken venture]

It should be hopefully, I mean this kind of seems like something they're making to get rid of the g3x gen 2

[molten coral]

Base model $319 us

My guess

[broken mauve]

I think the base will be $299

[teal plover]

its a fair bit nicer looking than the regular odin 2 but a far cry from the RP5 or any other oled tbh

colors are vibrant enough but the vignetting is very noticeable

[sturdy mulch]

any useful/extra information from the stream?

[blazing hare]

Nothing we already don’t know we do get these goodies if ordering early bird

Which are actually useful, screen protector , grip case and extra stick caps are really great additions

[molten coral]

Grip case does look nice

[jolly rock]

Wow you also get a free slide out handheld

[sturdy mulch]

Some of the stuff they include (not the ones mentioned above) sometimes feels unnecessary though, like they could have cut down the packaging and lower shipping costs (and hopefully pass the savings over to us)

Their boxes and stuff is always super big, even for a 6 inch device like air plus

[tough yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-arnoldchwarzenegger-turbo-time-jingle-all-the-way-gif-11070880

[blissful mirage]

3 hour stream

And not even a price lol

[feral magnet]

Arthur likes live streams, no hate for that

[tough yarrow]

I just want know the price .

[broken mauve]

end of April, unfortunately

[tough yarrow]

557 is going to steal my wallet. Good bye Ace we only just knew each other

[blissful mirage]

Do we have an actual date for the launch of the IGG page?

[sturdy mulch]

there is another "final conference" at end of april according to one of their discord mod, so probably shortly after that conference.

[gleaming oak]

cant wait for them to have this up for 400

[blazing hare]

It won't starting , I'm sure there will be a top end model for that much if not more but highly doubt it will start at that price ,

[blissful mirage]

Well I see it starting at that for the "official retail price"

How how the DMG is $420 but you could get it for $340 on IGG

[blissful mirage]

A concern I still have is about the sticks potentially being too far down

[blazing hare]

It does look a bit awkward ergonomically in this video

https://youtu.be/-hg8O_GS9QM?si=5rBx9U8vT1R7UllA

[blissful mirage]

I really wish IGG orders opened sooner

Because I'm still stuck between this and the Odin 2 Mini

Odin 2 and Mini have promo codes that are available until the 25th

[blazing hare]

One good thing about IGG is you get some actual use freebies this time

Protective case looks like it gives you something to grip

So might help ergonomics

[blissful mirage]

I'm hoping the grip case is the type that you can put on both the front and back

So it'll cover the screen and sticks when not in use

[blazing hare]

I prefer those too but probably not

They do usually sell extra zip up thin cases that do that though

[blissful mirage]

[sand gyro]

Sadly there's just no way this won't be tarrifed to death whenever it ships for me. Sad. I def would have considered it

[warped halo]

I wouldn't worry Trump won't be president by the time this comes out

[solid loom]

This has to be the best looking device from Ayaneo so far, do we know when the IGG campaign will start?

[blissful mirage]

Late this month is the only real clue we have

[sand gyro]

Would be nice. But doubtful. People still defend trump for making the best 5d chess move regardless of what it is

[blazing hare]

What do you mean by this ?
You think he’s stepping down

[severe aurora]

I can't imagine ever holding any handheld like that lmao. Maybe it's the camera to blame for that unholy claw thumb.

[brittle gazelle]

I think he was referencing Aya’s release schedule

[blissful mirage]

Getting old while he's as unhealthy as he is

[jade hare]

Heh

Me taking the MGS3 method by waiting

[blazing hare]

Sorry to break it to you but none of those are happening, if we had basically a vegetable lead the country the last administration hes in it for the long term

Wether you agree or disagree with his policies

Hoping someone dies to get your way is kind of really messed up though

What the hell is wrong with some of you people

Will leave it at that but we shouldn’t really clog this thread with politics from both sides

[sand gyro]

Hoping he does so you can buy a handheld is pretty messed up. Plenty other reasons to wish ill will on him (destroying 401ks, gutting special needs education assistance, killing small businesses/farmers with tarrifs, deporting people without due process and against the law, actual removal of 1st amendment rights, etc). Wishing so for the latest toy is like lowest priority 😆

[blissful mirage]

It's a bajillion other things aside from just handhelds, but I'll leave it at that since it wouldn't be on-topic in the slightest

[jade hare]

Sorry

I'll be deleting that post

I shouldn't have gotten too deep into politics

Anyways, any news about this handheld?

[broken mauve]

typical democratic take lol

[stiff mural]

If only it were simple deportations instead of the whole concentration camp in El Salvador where they will never be released thing - that’s functionally mass murder.

[gleaming oak]

soon they'll bring the cows into this channel too 😄

[stiff mural]

I wish they’d bring a headphone jack smdh

[jade hare]

https://tenor.com/view/moo-moo-mario-kart-mario-kart-world-mario-cow-gif-9969936918331215575

[stiff mural]

I don’t even support consoles but I would die for that cow

[blazing hare]

Your not wrong unfortunately

In the end its messed up no matter which party it is anyway that enough of that ...

So is the Ace officially set to launch at the end of the month ?

[blissful mirage]

This seems to be the best idea we have

[broken mauve]

I think that is the expected timeframe for a price reveal

Not sure if they'll open pre orders by then as well

[blissful mirage]

The thought of the the stick placement kept fucking nagging at me

I was considering waiting to see if they'd release a version with the stick on top instead, like how the Pocket Micro had a version with no sticks come out

But the world might have gone to shit by then

So I ended up buying an Odin 2 Mini

Especially since there were coupons for it

[opal gull]

Good choice - who even knows when the Ace will actually start shipping!

[warped halo]

Probably a month to 6 weeks after the launch at the end of the month so a good 8 weeks from now.I don't know why they do this there is so much competition out there why unveil things months and weeks before you can actually get your hands on it.

And worse is there are still issues after all that time.

[winter turret]

Stay tuned on our YouTube tonight

[broken venture]

Actually what's the price on this thing

[oblique granite]

Nobody knows yet

[blissful mirage]

Holy shit

People are getting review units early huh

I swear it's not common for people to get review units before the IGG page even launches

[native vessel]

Maybe shipping will be quick. I remember when I ordered my Aya Neo Pocket Air. It shipped about a week after doing the pledge.

[native vessel]

Is this the first look at this new screen. I think it is. Will give us an idea of what to expect on the Powkiddy rgb50 too

[blissful mirage]

Tbh the screen isn't really that much of a point of interest, because it's likely the same screen as on the KT-R1

And if it is, then we've already seen it in action

[native vessel]

Oh really?! Didnt realise it was in the KTR1

[blissful mirage]

At the very least, it's the same screen size, aspect ratio, and resolution

Idk if it's 100% the same

But there are a number of devices coming out soon with screens that appear to be the exact same

The GKD Little and RGB50, for example

[muted dirge]

it's almost certainly the KTR1 screen yes

[hearty saffron]

Arthur said that the color profile is different from KTR1 and is brighter at 500 nits

[hearty saffron]

Also, KTR1 has undergone at least three screen revisions. The first one when it came out, it actually had a visible light sensor in the top right corner. The second revision had issues with green tinting. The most recent version, released late last year, offers a brighter, improved display.

So when people say it’s exactly the same screen as the KTR1, it is technically inaccurate

[broken venture]

How are ergonomics

[winter turret]

Default sticks are smaller, but it includes these ones to swap out

Very nice actually

Comfy

Lightweight

[broken venture]

Nice

[winter turret]

No hard edges

[muted dirge]

how does it compare against the RP Mini and RP5 in size? I'm guessing it's somewhere in the middle

[frozen tree]

Also wondering this. Both sticks bottom like RP5 which I don’t find comfortable (for me). These also aren’t inset a little like the RP Mini so interested in ergonomics here.

Design of it is killer though.

[sturdy mulch]

This need a stick swap with the rg557, both will benefits from it

Hope to see other devices using this screen, with a SOC that is more of middle ground between the a527 devices and this one.

A527 feels too weak for to take advantage of this screen in 3D stuff, ktr1 was expensive at launch for a g99 (+ the qa issues) and price didn't change even now.

Or maybe ayaneo will surprise us with a relatively low price for this since this is using "older chip" now.

[stiff mural]

anbernic will probably do a 457 that is basically that by summer

[sturdy mulch]

If they do and it's priced like the rg557, pocket ace would probably be the better choice 👀

[winter turret]

Update: the video is delayed until tomorrow.

One thing that I wanted to share that I've stumbled on here, is I see Aya has some stricter review guidelines and also an embargo for this release for some of the testing (they are making the screen less finger printy for final retail units was the main thing).

They also don't want a review, pictures or clips made public without approval and seeing the content first. That is frustrating and goes directly against our reviewer ethics. We are sharing clips, pics and the video without approval as usual, they can yell and blacklist RH if they want.

It is silly since the handheld is pretty damn solid, and I'm not finding any deal breakers in the day I've had it here. Im not sure what they are worried about, it is basically the Pocket DMG / EVO except in a 3:2 format.

The screen also doesnt appear much more finger printy in this engineering sample than any other to me, so

Having said that, I already filmed the video and shared the thoughts I wanted to share before even bothering to read the attached guidelines, beyond agreeing to the review embargo that was discussed in email first. An embargo is normal, the "guidelines" not so much, unless you're doing a paid sponsor insert for NordVPN or something. 😆

This is the first time they have asked this of us, and I hope other reviewers will also mention this as it is a slippery slope to have the review be spot checked and potentially asked to be altered before release. No thank you.

Now for the rest of my thoughts on the actual handheld: the main thing that stood out to me as a drawback is the speakers could be better. It's not the best android of 2025 in my mind here, but man if the price is right, I think it's a great contender as THE 3:2 beast (GKD Little / RGB50 when?) Performance is there like the dmg and evo. 3:2, even 4:3 and 16:9 looks great on it. I also like how lightweight and comfy it feels.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, and let me know if you're interested in a livestream to dive into the weeds on this thing together. We could do that Thursday. 🍻

[magic cargo]

Is it the same anti uv-coated plastic as on the DMG?

[winter turret]

Yeah

Less smudgy, but its there

matte, with a little bit of slippery feel

[magic cargo]

Damn was hoping they would change that. Ah well

[deep eagle]

No price yet?

[winter turret]

Due to the color, I don't see the smudges unless I really try. The white / black DMG units were more smudgy for me.

No price yet

[deep eagle]

That embargo thing is kinda lousy. They're really tryna drill down

[winter turret]

Guessing $300 - $400 range

[deep eagle]

I'm sure they think the evo could've sold better

[winter turret]

Yeah I think its related to the DMG review kerfuffles surrounding the UV coating

[deep eagle]

That too

[winter turret]

They want benchmarking to match their results, and yeah no, we'll see on the livestream how it does in realtime together

[deep eagle]

You will soon get to rest

[winter turret]

We'll release the first look tomorrow, and i'd do the livestream tomorrow too, but it will be Thurs since i'm off from RH to celebrate my 40th with the fam (it has been demanded)

[magic cargo]

Happy Birthday for tomorrow. My 40th isn’t for a few months so I’m officially young until then….

[winter turret]

You better live it up, whipper snapper (and thank you) 😂

Ok recorded a first look to the first look i'm just going to share here raw so you don't need to wait, I promised a first look tonight and GOSH DARN I WILL DELIVER IT

[blissful mirage]

Ty Stubbs

Try get some sleep now 😌

[winter turret]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-cheers-salute-shots-drinking-gif-7270462358495492141

[blissful mirage]

Playing Hades on a 4.3" display (since Switch) sounds fuckin rough lmao

Since everything in that game is so small

I wasn't even gonna attempt it on Odin 2 Mini

[gleaming oak]

Haha I tried that on the retroid mini

[blissful mirage]

Guh

I can't imagine it was very pleasant

[jolly rock]

How come it’s ALWAYS sunny where Stubbs lives

[winter turret]

In Oregon it's raining a lot and we all lack vitamin D, but when I see the sun is out I go and capture pics and vids

If there is no sun I usually only film inside, so most of the fall / winter months

[rotund galleon]

40 wow

[blissful mirage]

I'm surprised he found the device comfortable, with the stick placement being where it is

Or maybe he just didn't get to use it for a prolonged period of time yet

[round epoch]

I’m so done with ayaneo. All the quirks you get/forgive from a $50 device at 10x the price

[blissful mirage]

I do see the device being worth it if it's about $300

But it would only be that low for IGG preorders

Which I think fuckin sucks

They really are way too expensive outside of that

[round epoch]

And really all not that ‘premium’ when the novelty wears off and you scratch beneath the surface

[sand gyro]

Can I share this around or discord eyes only?

I'm sure Ayaneo will know it exists sooner rather than later anyway. Lol. Just wanted permission to post around for people interested

[elfin rapids]

Wow . This has got to be my most favorite Ayaneo device. Can't wait!!! Tarrifs or no tarrifs, I'm most definitely getting that one 🤤

[sand gyro]

Yeah. Worst case I'll order from droix

Should deliver before the end of the now 75 day pause maybe?

[molten escarp]

What's the res on the screen again?

[molten escarp]

I'm waiting for OLED rollable screens to become viable. I could see 'stretching out' a controller to get a nice 16:9 or even 21:9 8" screen from a 4" inch carry.

[winter turret]

Ah meant just for our group here to see the unlisted vid here, since I promised an early look at the thing, the actual first look video covers the same topics but is more watchable

[blissful mirage]

1620*1080

[jade ridge]

Awesome. I am wanting one since the evo sold out of their retro power version.

[sand gyro]

All good. Why I always ask 👍

[winter turret]

Looks like im not the only one reacting poorly to their review guidelines. They say its all a misunderstanding and we dont need to send them the video for approval before posting now. It also looks like there is a full embargo on all content, which is something we can agree on. The video is private until the campaign launches, along with the first look that was going to be released today. 🤔

[lime sandal]

well damn

[high valve]

Can't spell ayaneo without "no"

[magic cargo]

I’ll be honest I don’t agree with everything Ayaneo do but you can’t say they dont make good devices

[high valve]

Good looking devices. I love their pocket line but feel they abandon their products too soon.

[magic cargo]

The only device I’ve got which comes close to feeling as premium as some of my Ayaneo stuff is the metal analogue pocket and that’s not great in the price / performance ratio

[magic cargo]

I’ve maybe not been around long enough to see that, which devices have they abandoned?

[high valve]

More so updates, the pocket Evo still has issues that people have taken it upon themselves to fix with no word from Ayaneo about providing fixes.

[magic cargo]

Ah ok, was that the thermal pad stuff? I thought they sent kits to people

But yeah like I said, I don’t always like them as a company, but you can’t hold a pocket micro in your hand without becoming a tiny bit of an Ayaneo fanboy

Design wise they really nail it for me

[high valve]

Thermal pad was another issue, which I can give them a pass because they did offer solutions to those affected by it and other manufacturers have had similar stuff happen (powkiddy rgb30 battery issue for example)

But damn. Do I love the pocket s, pocket dmg, and pocket Evo. They just know how to make a handheld feel luxurious.

[magic cargo]

Tell me about it man

If you don’t own a micro classic then definitely take a look at one. Such a great little thing, a metal NES controller with a really nice screen

[high valve]

Oh I forgot to mention that, got the one without sticks as I wanted an end game GBA emulator. It just checks all the boxes.

But admittedly I'm not personally fond of the Flip DS or Ayaneo 3, doesn't do anything for me and my wallet can't stomach the hx370 prices 🫠

[magic cargo]

Kind of feel like they’re mishandling the release of the Ace though and they’ve erred on the ‘annoying lack of info’ side when they were probably aiming for ‘generate hype’

[sand gyro]

Well for some of their devices at least. Pretty sure DMG had the same issue and they didn't offer it for them

[high valve]

Loved the ace but I opted for the micro. If it release the other way around id probably go for it.

[magic cargo]

It’s my favourite device and I own enough that I don’t want to list them all as I’ll have to admit I have a problem. Which colour did you go for?

[magic cargo]

DMG wasnt getting thermal throttled but you could get extra performance by improving the cooling, I’m not sure that counts

[minor shore]

are u talking about the pocket micro classic?

[magic cargo]

Plus I like that Ayaneo will sell you whatever parts you want, I’ve got a small collection of replacement shells, buttons and screens to future proof my devices as much as possible

[high valve]

Yeah I heard about that with the DMG but I don't plan to push it hard so I wasn't worried about it.

[magic cargo]

Yeah

[high valve]

Yup. That one.

[minor shore]

gotcha

[sand gyro]

It wasn't? My scores were pretty bad til I put new pads on. The old one didn't even reach the heatsink

[sturdy mulch]

Think they were trying their luck

Weren't they also blaming new staff or something for ignoring Russ emails sometime last year iirc

[winter turret]

Yeah

Wild

[magic cargo]

What were your scores before? In the discord everyone was in the high 3000s, but benchmark scores are not the same as getting poor performance when gaming Id say. Either way I’m not here to defend them against anything apart from the claim that they don’t make great devices

And that’s only because of my slightly romantic attachment to the micro classic 😀

[high valve]

That's upsetting

[sand gyro]

I mean sure. But the low shouldn't be in the low 2000s

Like you could see the throttle dips. Everyone did until they put new pads on. Which I mean whatever. Pads aren't expensive and it's a pretty easy fix

[magic cargo]

Ah ok I may have been lucky there then; my low was 3500ish and high was around 4000. I’m still tempted to open it up at some point

But I find that sort of stuff a lot easier to forgive than my anbernics which might explode if I accidentally plug them into the wrong charger for example

[sand gyro]

Yeah. The bigger advantage is you can put it on low performance mode and get good stability and numbers

Should extend the life of the internals

But yeah. Way better than exploding

Haha

[magic cargo]

Hmm, I think I might give it a go this weekend then

What are your scores like now?

[jade ridge]

I’ve never ordered through IGG before. Do they charge instantly or is it charged when shipped or the campaign ends? I am hoping instantly.

I worry I’ll forget later haha.

[sand gyro]

I'll take a pic in a min. I took pics of the pre scores but was so relieved with post I didn't even bother 😆

[magic cargo]

Its instant

[jade ridge]

Awesome. Thank you!

[magic cargo]

Although who knows if they’ll ever actually tell us the price

[jade ridge]

True.

[kindred kestrel]

This feels like they tried, got pushback from reviewers, and then backpedaled. Such an oddly specific request they haven't done before to not notice it went out to every reviewer.

[magic cargo]

I bet that is almost exactly what happened

[sand gyro]

Companies try to do this shit all the time. It's like they keep pushing until they get weaker responses then make it finalized

[magic cargo]

Has backfired though because I would have ordered this without a thought but now I want to wait and see what hidden thing is wrong with it

[kindred kestrel]

Yeah, it's an unnecessary ask that just raises eyebrows now. AyaNeo has a niche and customer base that will order their devices regardless, so this feels counterintuitive.

[winter turret]

Yeah man, same thought

Going to continue testing in the meantime and see if I can discover any gatchas hiding here

I will share anything I find

[magic cargo]

In the Ayaneo discord one of their reps just told me the production device will be less fingerprinty than the engineering sample. No idea if they mean just the screen or the whole device but fingers crossed that we get proper matte plastic

[jolly rock]

Is there a price sticker on the box anywhere??

[magic cargo]

In case anyone isn’t in that discord and is curious

[high valve]

I wish they would stop putting whatever material they put on their plastics or make it textured like the steam deck. Fingerprints galore.

[magic cargo]

It’s their anti-uv coating specially designed to make your device feel like it came in a happy meal

For the full retro experience

[remote marlin]

People say that they are cautious about reviewers criticizing something that is only applicable to prototype/review samples but isn't that entirely the fault of Ayaneo for not putting these things in the review notes provided to reviewers?

An embargo until the campaign goes live is clearly just there because they don't have faith in how their product functions. They only have faith in how pretty it looks in promo material.

[dusty pumice]

When u guys say fingerprint magnet you are not talking about the top layer which looks like glass, but the rest of the shell?

[blissful mirage]

Pretty much

Glass fronts are fingerprint-y regardless

But Aya's last few devices have had an "anti-UV" coating on their plastic shells

The purpose of the coating is to stop discolouration of the shell over time, but the drawback is that the coating gives the device a much glossier finish, which fingerprints are a lot more likely to show up on

[sand gyro]

I guarantee it's probably also cheaper

It's possible early production units have some oleophobic coating that was applied wrong or something. Pretty sure I it's an entirely glass front, so I don't think it's a UV coating thing

[magic cargo]

Yeah that was just me being hopeful, I think they’ve been pretty clear it’s the glass

[stiff mural]

Can we as a community just blacklist aya yet

They blacklist anyone who gives them a bad review, none of their handhelds get any meaningful support post launch, and they appear to have forgotten what a 3.5mm audio jack is

[sand gyro]

My government will do it for me so no sweats

[broken venture]

That's because ayaneo is too good for a headphone jack, you're going to get a fingerprint sensor and you're going to like it

[sand gyro]

I do kinda like it 😆

[stiff mural]

I did like the fingerprint sensor on my Odin 2 tbh

[blissful mirage]

Yeah I've heard the removal of it for the Mini wasn't insignificant

[stiff mural]

Yeah it’s a shame it didn’t come back on the portal

[sand gyro]

Feel like it's just nice for unlocking and jumping right in

[wise sedge]

I don't really agree that they don't get meaningful support, they do, more so than most other manufacturers.

[sand gyro]

I am kind of shocked how many of their core applications do still get updates going forward

The main shitty thing is having to send things back for repairs or batteries

[sand gyro]

Especially now at least

[gleaming oak]

we'll finally see a price i guess

[sturdy mulch]

They push out updates regularly, but those updates don't necessarily fix the issues with the different devices and sometimes even introduce more. Not sure if the bosses there are pushing the developers to throw out updates just to fulfill some kpi or something.
Maybe that's what people were referring to as meaningful support.

I personally stop updating ayaspace etc everytime they push one out.

[tough yarrow]

Why are in this thread then? You want to justify what?

[stiff mural]

Is this not the thread where their edicts to reviewers were shared?

[blissful mirage]

It was

[stiff mural]

If I posted in the wrong thread by accident I can move my post to somewhere else

[blissful mirage]

I don't think Stubbs posted his vid outside of this thread

[stiff mural]

Hrm, no clue what jay is on about then

[blissful mirage]

Well ig he expects these threads to be dedicated to hype more than anything

And for people who actually plan to get the device

[blissful mirage]

I do think the Pocket Ace could be amazing

[stiff mural]

I do actually like the aesthetics of this one a lot, I just wish the sticks were recessed (they’re already so small!) and there was a headphone jack

Chip is massive overkill for my purposes but whatever

[blissful mirage]

But I didn't want wait until after the discount ended on Odin 2 Mini to decide on whether or not to get one

Especially since we still don't have a price

[stiff mural]

Do you have the o2mini in hand yet? I really like the vita look of that one

Wish it were dpad top tho

[blissful mirage]

It delivers tomorrow

Bro

RP5?

[stiff mural]

Would it really kill ayn to throw us 2d enjoyers a single solitary bone

[stiff mural]

I have one, it’s mostly nice but it’s more modern looking than I’d like, and the sticks are a bit too close to the other controls which makes them annoying even when you aren’t using them

[blissful mirage]

Wait, so what are you actually looking for then?

I take it you want a horizontal specifically

That, or you don't like the RP Classic's screen

[stiff mural]

I actually am quite interested in the rp classic

Just waiting a bit to see if any dealbreakers come up, I’m trying not to order anything when it’s brand new new

[blissful mirage]

That's smart

[stiff mural]

I would’ve paid extra for the classic to be 865 just so it wouldn’t be uncharted territory/have a better gpu for shaders/have properly open source firmware but it is what it is

406v is my current favourite I think but pocketable it is not lol

The rp5 will stay for psp either way

[blissful mirage]

Bulky boi

[stiff mural]

The main thing I like about the 406v is probably the main thing that appeals here too - properly inset stick placement to actually be DualShock layout instead of putting them directly under the dpad and abxy

The 406v is the closest to an actual DualShock controller I’ve found in a handheld thus far

[blissful mirage]

I see that with the 406V, but not the Pocket Ace

406v's sticks are fairly close together

Whereas the Pocket Ace's are still almost directly under the buttons

Just really far below them

The saving grace will likely be the device's chin

[stiff mural]

Yeah nobody really wants to sacrifice screen to body ratio for more gamepad like ergo on horizontals it seems, while on large enough verticals it kinda happens naturally

The o2portal and most x86 handhelds properly align their lower controls but they go Xbox layout since they’re more modern game focused

[wise sedge]

That's pretty shitty yeah, they need way better QA on their batteries and charging components. But updates/support wise they're better than most.

[sand gyro]

Def true

Just ship that battery

Maybe because you sometimes have to take stuff apart to get to it

Would be nice if all these makers just did battery door covers and easy connectors

[stiff mural]

the problem is we let devices with batteries in them ship by air but loose batteries are hazardous material

[sand gyro]

Yeah. They just need to put it in something. Lol

Some cheap plastic case

But anyway. Took apart my portal and realized another plus of Ayaneo. All the case screws are screwed into metal inserts in the plastic

Rather than just screwed into the plastic

Almost stripped a portal screw. It might be. But I think i got it snug

[rancid vapor]

[broken jolt]

why do I like the look of this handheld so much... it's like a more sleek rp2s

[jade ridge]

I’m going to get the retro version. So I’m about to be broke I imagine.

[winter turret]

This tbh

[dusty pumice]

Be good to know what comfort is like. I love the looks but it’s got a lot of angular edges.

[jade ridge]

What kind of prices do yall predict? Early bird retro pricing prob $499 like the dmg?

[winter turret]

Embargo is up tomorrow at 5am PST

Likely campaign is launching then

My video should be going live then also

I'll un-private my casual first look again as well

[jade ridge]

Awesome I can’t wait!

[magic cargo]

I thought I was done buying devices now that my portal arrived but this is kind of tempting. @winter turret can you tell us if it’s more or less comfy than the RP5 when using the sticks or will the Ayaneo hit squads come for you?

[winter turret]

Maybe they will come, so far they have not, tomorrow may change that 😆

That's a tough one though, the rp5 sticks are better. For my hands the rp5 with a grip is more comfortable for shooters. Pocket Ace is more dpad focused with the sticks as a nice bonus, however they work well and are fairly comfy for shorter play sessions. A few quick rounds of war zone, etc.

The most comfortable will be the Pocket Evo

I think for non modern dual stick gaming like PS2 they are great though, really enjoying games like Black

Streaming feels good too, but yeah you might find yourself wanting bigger sticks for twin stick stuff, they are bigger than the rg557 which I very much appreciate

My vid will show how I hold it and what its like

[broken venture]

They're bigger than the rg557 😭 that's insane

[winter turret]

They have larger caps included which is appreciated

[blissful mirage]

Seems I was right to get the Odin 2 Mini then

At least in terms of analogue sticks

[round epoch]

How’s the screen? And the overall size difference with the rp5? I caught a glimpse of that video, but a bit hard to tell 😀

[blissful mirage]

It's a very close size to the KT-R1, so this comparison should work fine

This is 1cm taller than the RP5, and 3 cm narrower

[round epoch]

Ace somewhat wider than the r1 I think. Just going by spacing around the dpad/buttons. maybe taller too… that chin would s a bit.. deceiving

[blissful mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349629205620457514/1355160933554454538/6a7a9ddda3cc7cd9bf0788f47f01213fb90e91cf.jpg?ex=680f7878&is=680e26f8&hm=80bed745a2ef0a19a5e38e0828ab7134cf7ebfbf7c2330ffe4e4d621a545063b&

Big difference between the Ace and devices with similar screens is that its bezeless

So that chin ends up making it about equal

[round epoch]

Interesting, thanks

The rp5 has become kinda end game for me… this peeks my interest a bit.. not $350+ interesting though

[sand gyro]

Yeah. She gonna be pricey

[winter turret]

Maybe we'll find out the price today, seems likely with embargo ending in 1.5 hours

[magic cargo]

Yeah they said IGG orders will open halfway through the livestream

[earnest pier]

That IGG early bird price on the retro power though 💀

[jade ridge]

Yeah I only wanted the retro power version.

$599 is too much for me atm so I’m skipping this one for now.

[earnest pier]

same, already dropped some money on switches. I'll probably just wait for the mythical odin 3 mini

[magic cargo]

Yeah I’m waiting to see @winter turret ‘s review but this feels like something I probably don’t need

[livid jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

glad they kept the high price, because:

[blissful mirage]

Wait what

Why is it more expensive than the DMG

There is no way it should be

[sturdy mulch]

The early bird of 339 isn't too bad if the device don't have any major issue, not the igg retail price though.
Was hoping for lower price since they have device with new chips coming out soon, but too bad..

[blissful mirage]

The early bird IGG price is the same as DMG's, but the official retail price got pumped up even further

[sturdy mulch]

Need something between the a527 devices using this screen and ace (not the ktr1)

[blissful mirage]

Baka mitai...

Well now I'm extra glad that I got the Odin 2 Mini while it had a discount

It arrived today as well lol

[magic cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/bakamitai-dame-da-ne-gif-18169555

[broken jolt]

why is the retro power locked to that one price point...

[earnest pier]

oh goodie 10 dollar off. lol

[broken jolt]

at this price point... $10 off doesn't really make the difference 😅

at least to me...

I don't think I'll be spending my hard earned money on this, unfortunately, it's just too expensive for me

[broken mauve]

The 12gb + 256gb version being more expensive than an Odin 2 Portal Pro (retail price) is wild

[gleaming oak]

oof

guess the form factor... but yeah too much lol

[earnest pier]

also, 16gb, what utilizes that much power?

[pearl arrow]

Shipping not included which means tariffs could screw this

[broken mauve]

Winlator, ps3

[pearl arrow]

Also you can get the pocket s for $479 and it's really good 1440p retro power from ayaneo.com

[blissful mirage]

Problem with the Pocket S are the sticks 🤢

[earnest pier]

whats wrong with it. im out of the loop with ayaneo devices

[blissful mirage]

Hall effect Switch sticks, but still Switch sticks

Which I hate with a burning passion

[pearl arrow]

Powkiddy rgb50 looking pretty good now if price right

[blissful mirage]

But maybe they don't have grindy movement?

Idk

[broken mauve]

You can also get the Odin 2 Portal Por for $399, with great sticks, great screen and great soc

lol

[blissful mirage]

I wanna kill whoever invented these

[earnest pier]

man, the gulikit hall effect I put in my joycons does that lol

[rotund galleon]

Yh they cooked

[rotund galleon]

It's already screwed

[earnest pier]

rip

[gleaming oak]

don't worry, affording handhelds will be last of concerns 😄

[earnest pier]

32 bucks to US currently lol

[pearl arrow]

does that say DHL? Or 4PX?

[earnest pier]

didn't specify

[oblique granite]

In the past they have used DHL unless requested otherwise

But dunno if that changes now with the situation

[blazing hare]

Really wish the base was at least 256GBs storage for $339….128GBs is kind of pathetic if you want to do any newer Android AAA gaming

Guess Im sticking with my Razer Edge S9 combo

[high valve]

I've been wanting this but afraid tariffs are gonna screw it up. I need to remind myself to enjoy what I already have.

[native vessel]

Yeah they wont use 4PX tried in the past. They do have other solutions though. They shipped via DPD across Europe and then Evri into UK. This avoided import tax for me. But not sure what option will be now for US

[blissful mirage]

I thought people usually used micro SDs for their games on these handhelds, even the ones by Retroid and AYN

Largely because putting the games on the SD is a lot easier than putting them in internal storage, I thought

[high valve]

depending on the size of the internal storage size i'd imagine

[cloud storm]

You can't install Android games to the SD card is the issue for people who want to do high end Android gaming like Mofo above clearly wants to.

I have a base Odin 2 portal and I've always been fine with the storage because I don't really care about native android games.

Also if you want to do PS2 or GameCube texture packs those need to be installed on internal only.

[blissful mirage]

Ohhh

I know for Android gaming at least

Although ig I'm probably underestimating how much file space native Android games take up

[spice quiver]

I know these are different devices but the RP mini fills the void for me and I won’t be going after the Ace even though I’ve been tracking it

[high valve]

wish i had kept mine and recieved the screen update, but hey.... made a good sale from it

[blazing hare]

Exactly this , I mean it would be a shame and kind of a waste to not use such a high end SOC for just emulation IMO . Not into that many Android games but there are a few coming out that look interesting

[sturdy mulch]

How much do they occupy usually per game for the higher end ones?
And formatting microsd as internal storage might be an option? Need to use a good card though.

[winter turret]

[winter turret]

You dont need it, and also the GKD Little and PK RGB50 are coming soon

[magic cargo]

Too late, I bought one. It’s not entirely your fault but about 98%

[stiff mural]

the gkd firmware situation is likely to be dire so fingers crossed on the rgb50 being good

[winter turret]

Yeah let's see

Also in case not posted, here's my thoughts. There's extra thoughts in the description about the review unit kerfuffles.

https://youtu.be/Cz5Cynpf73A?si=qpgsx8H32drht1w9

[oblique granite]

How does it feel to use the sticks, pretty cramped?

[broken venture]

This device could've been so good but the stick placement and size kills it for me

[oblique granite]

I think I’m more interested in the pocket S2

[narrow fern]

Maybe its just me, but its really hard for me to justify this price for a ps1/psp/ gba handheld as i paid less for a pc/ps2/gc handheld (steamdeck). Seems the same as buying a weekend house thats more expensive than the house i live in…

[winter turret]

Feels pretty good but not for long play sessions, I was enjoying some warzone.

[magic cargo]

What’s a house? I sleep under my collection of Android handhelds

[winter turret]

Messing around this morning a bit more. I think my favorite feature on this is the haptics. If this could have had the pocket DMG screen, man, that would have been

[weak aspen]

bUt It'S sO pReMuIm

[dreamy orchid]

Only 74 backers so far 😬 That's not an encouraging start.

[earnest pier]

what does that entail really? I don't think anyone was surprised at all on the prices. Edit: TF is this bird emoji it added... lol

[magic cargo]

Most backers used the discount links they sent by email which don’t show up on IGG. I was order number 22 but IGG showed only one other order so I don’t think that number is accurate

[dreamy orchid]

Nah the secret perks add to the backers. There's about half of the backers showing where they don't have the link or haven't used it, the rest is those that have.

[high valve]

$700 being the highest price point for the 1tb retro edition. 💀💀💀

[magic cargo]

Oh indeed looks like you’re right. I do think that until there’s more clarity on tariffs people are going to be cautious with what they buy and this thing is pretty niche

[earnest pier]

i pulled the trigger on the Retro Power after debating with myself for around 10 min. Wishing for a cry once buy once sort of thing on this.

[hearty saffron]

I believe it is their worst sale number for first-day backers, but I blame it more to the tariff than the actual product quality. China side should do quite well..this time they have subsidies from the government which lowers the base model price to only $270.

[livid jackal]

So the Chinese buyers don’t use IGG? Is there an equivalent listing for domestic clients?

[hearty saffron]

No, they use JD dot com

[sand gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/comunisto-dogo-gif-15433861177915232836

I'm ready

[teal plover]

picked up a used kt-r1 to see how much I would like the 4.5" 3:2 screen

gotta say, the buttons, sticks, and dpad are absolute trash

and there is some very noticeable light bleed around the edges of the screen when its displaying a darker image

also i should have known this but it still isn't perfectly integer scaled up to the full display

[rotund galleon]

Ah old ktr1

[teal plover]

i get why its not popular

[rotund galleon]

Bro it's doomed from the start

[sand gyro]

Plastic version?

[teal plover]

yeah

[sand gyro]

Used kt-r1 is a gamble in itself. It's been iterated on so many times

I have a metal and everything is amazing. But they only sold them as premiums in China

But the screen size is awesome

Makes me wish this wasn't so dumb expensive. Rgb50 does less for me.

C'mon GKD Little

Gonna be my handheld of the year. Next year? 2 years from now? Who knows

[night furnace]

Yeah, ok I’m not getting this (unless the Cheeto cancels the tariffs at the last minute since “not many people like them, including myself, I never thought it was a good idea, I just agreed that it was the only solution at the time since China wasn’t being cooperative” or some other bullshit).

I actually was legit interested in this device as a replacement for my Micro (and for most of my other older Android handhelds). I’m not interested in paying likely $500 for the 8GB-RAM Early Bird.

[sand gyro]

Yurp hard no. Or it needs to launch soon enough to get on droix before UK tarrifs go back into effect

[sturdy mulch]

Should still do better than their ayaneo 3 igg

[weak aspen]

only 381 backers

[magic cargo]

Where are those keycaps from?

[lean igloo]

I want one but, I'm not spending this money

[magic cargo]

Well there are other devices with the same screen coming out soon which will be cheaper

[dapper rivet]

anyone knows which what kind of company Ayaneo ships their Indigogo orders to the EU?

[blissful mirage]

I'm pretty sure IGG defaults to 4PX

[dapper rivet]

that would be good, because with their own website they only provide DHL, which would mean taxes

[blissful mirage]

At least that's what I've seen

[dapper rivet]

ahh, just kill me now for wasting money

[magic cargo]

I’m sure my DMG from IGG came with DHL

Also I just had a 4px package stopped for customs fees so it’s not always foolproof

[teal plover]

Artisan keycap makers, @unknown_keycaps, @alphakeycaps, and @bogan.caps from IG

[dapper rivet]

I mean, with DHL they would charge more than 28€

and yeah obviously 4PX can fail, but better than sending it straight to be taxed

[magic cargo]

I’ll double check but I’m 99% sure they always use DHL

I’ve had 4 devices from them now, only one from IGG though

[dapper rivet]

this sounds... great 😅

[jolly rock]

When’s that?

[native vessel]

No they dont use 4PX at all. Aya refuse to use 4PX due to high loss rate. It’s DPD

But you have to request it. Otherwise its DHL automatically

Evo and DMG shipped via DPD on request, then Evri when hit UK. No import charges that way

If you do the DPD route, they only show dispatch. No other tracking updates. So be prepared to be scared for about 2 weeks with no news

[dapper rivet]

on the Ayaneo discord they said it's a mixture of FedEx and DHL outside of the US

so 100bucks extra

[native vessel]

If you mention about import tax, they will say they “have other options” and then they dispatch via DPD

But only works for EU and UK peeps

Done it twice now on Evo and DMG

[dapper rivet]

you gotta write their support or via the IGG campaign in that case?

[native vessel]

Support email with IGG ref number

They make a note on your order

But like I say, DPD don’t give tracking updates. So be prepared for nothing for ages till it arrives in your local depot. But it does avoid tax

[blissful mirage]

Oh fuck

If DHL and FedEx are mandatory, I'm extra glad I picked up an Odin 2 Mini

FedEx invoice you like a week after delivery, asking for an extra €100

Fucking sucks

[wheat iron]

the micro wasn't an rp mini competitor

[blissful mirage]

Oh lord

I feel like any mention of the Micro summons you from the depths

You came up like a jumpscare lmao

[wheat iron]

oh i forgot about the brain dead tariffs

[blissful mirage]

I don't think you've ever messaged in this thread before but I could be wrong

[wheat iron]

something between pocket s and micro im very curious about.

could use a slightly larger but way more powerful micro

just for when i wanna set up the pain in the ass that is switch android emulation.

[blissful mirage]

Fair

I do wonder how playable Switch would be on what's effectively a 4.3" display

[wheat iron]

i play lots of gamecube on the micro so i bet it would be fine for me. i think psp is also really good on micro and that one gets very small text at times

so much reading to do in yakuza and it's fine imo

[blissful mirage]

Hmmm

Idk

TVs on average are a lot bigger than they used to be

So it makes sense for games from the early 2000s to be playable without much issue

[wheat iron]

tbf ive got better than 20/20 in both eyes.

so i am in the minority i think

[blissful mirage]

You would be indeed

[wheat iron]

most ppl will rightfully think the text is too small

[blissful mirage]

Since a lot of the community is old enough for their vision to start worsening

I'm young but I'm farsighted anyway

What I'm especially interested in seeing is something like Xenoblade on one of these, since there's a lot of text to be read in real-time

[wheat iron]

ooh i should out diablo 3 on the micro and see how legible the text is 🤭

i bet not very much

can't switch change aspect ratio in the settings though?

[blissful mirage]

I have no idea

[wheat iron]

based on the tv is plugged into. idr my switch is in the other room

[dapper rivet]

thx a bunch, gotta ask them

[native vessel]

No worries at all 💪

[sand gyro]

90 day pause. So we're at day like 70 or something. But pause could end at any moment, or be extended, or lit on fire, or smothered with gummy bears. It's really up in the air at this point

[blissful mirage]

They said shipping would start at the end of May IIRC

[sand gyro]

Yeah. So hopefully droix will get them and be able to ship out fast. if you go with them for an order I'd suggest not hesitating too long. once they clear through whatever preorder stock they have the second batch might not make it in time

Still undecided if I'll grab this or just stick with my dmg

[night furnace]

That’s the same thing I’m hoping to do. Do not want to do it if tariffs do still stay up.

[high valve]

yeah, best advice is to pre-order for the first batch.... anything afterwards is just a guesstimate as to when they will restock. Otherwise, fantastic site/seller

[night furnace]

Anyone know how to ensure we get a notification on when droix gets a batch of them?

[high valve]

best is their "ETA Date" they post on the product page. I once asked their customer service rep a similair question regarding the Pocket DMG and was told the same "ETA Date" 🤷‍♂️

[night furnace]

Huh, well I can’t even find the product page for it to begin with, so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see when it gets to them?

Regardless, it sucks that we likely won’t even be able to get the extras like the grip without paying extra.

[high valve]

they provided the pocket dmg control cover, carrying case, and something else with the purchase... so not always. Either way, I ended up cancelling with them and bought it directly from Ayaneo and got it pre-tariff

[gleaming oak]

i cant imagine the tariff situation improving anytime soon

[night furnace]

I can’t either, hence why I’m now planning on just defaulting to Droix if they get them in the cheapest option (8GB-RAM and black), and beforehand was already planning on only getting whatever popped up in #1118633698179428362

[gleaming oak]

fair. Not sure what your experiences are with Aya as a whole 😄 hopefully reviews are good

[night furnace]

Although I do think there is a chance Cheeto just cancels the whole thing with the excuse of “no one likes doing them, not even me, I only did it due to my hand being forced by the current situation, but China’s finally being more reasonable so I’m glad to now get rid of them” although he likely won’t even admit that and just flat out pretend he never did it in the first place.

You know, before he then goes back on that as well and starts threatening tariffs again because he unironically can’t stick to his word on either end and will just keep going back and forth on this.

[ancient fable]

For switch emulation, 12 or 16 GB?

[high valve]

On the Ayaneo discord a rep mentioned tariffs not being an issue so I went ahead and checked out the igg page, forgot about the pricing and noped right out again. 🤣

[night furnace]

Didn’t they literally just say it was an issue?

[high valve]

Well that makes things more interesting. Regardless I am gonna pass, it's just a reminder to use what I already have. 🫠

[sand gyro]

Yeah. But their new shipper will "find a way around it". Basically they're gonna ship to Canada and take it across the boarder via mule

[night furnace]

So is it now good and the whole mule thing is a joke, or are they literally smuggling these things in and expecting us to be fine with potentially losing out on well over $300?

[high valve]

My gut is telling me the latter. If it's too good to be true, prob is. And for the amount I'd need to drop for this, not gonna risk it. Id like to be proven wrong.

[sand gyro]

To be fair. They've been smuggling for decades. Under declaring value is basically smuggling.

[night furnace]

Yeah, I’m kind of talking about whether or not they’re gonna be shipping to Canada and then using a proxy shipper we don’t know about.

[night furnace]

Also, just rejoined that discord, you could’ve warned us that a certain douche is in there.

[high valve]

Not familiar with who's a douche and who isn't there.

[night furnace]

If you didn’t know in the first place then fair enough.

[sand gyro]

Starts with O ends with C?

[sand gyro]

Think switch emulator tops out at 9ish GB so 12 should be fine. I guess if you're doing some winlator you could go higher than 12

[night furnace]

Starts with D, ends with G, and it’s effectively 2-3 words with no spaces.

[gleaming oak]

ooh who we discussing 😄

[old tundra]

The prices not including tariffs is crazy to me. Who the heck is going to pay up to a thousand dollars for one of these?

[gleaming oak]

i mean, why would they include tariffs?

[high valve]

aren't most places posting them upon getting the final purchase screen?

[broken venture]

Amazon folded 😕

Thought we were getting somewhere

[high valve]

Bezos at his finest 🫠

[magic cargo]

They said that their new transport method would avoid tariffs for people in the US

[livid jackal]

would love to hear more about this shipping method 😄

[magic cargo]

I guess they will go via a third country, I think Retroid are doing something similar

But either way surely good news for you guys in the US

[stiff mural]

As long as you don’t get caught dodging the tariffs

Remember you the buyer are the importer here with a legal responsibility to verify country of origin and pay appropriate tariffs

[broken venture]

The less people know the better

[jolly rock]

Straight to El Salvador

[stiff mural]

I would hope not but I’m sure if laundering Chinese goods via a third country becomes common enough they’ll start seizing parcels and confiscating them at minimum

[jolly rock]

Yep

[stiff mural]

But also they are ruling by decree rather than written law these days so who knows what arbitrary fines or other punishments they’ll impose

[night furnace]

Yup, considering the tariffs outright are executive order which isn’t supposed to be how it’s handled, there’s pretty much little to no actual way to handle court rulings for confiscated items that wouldn’t also call into question whether the tariffs are legal in the first place.

So they’ll likely be avoiding courts entirely for “punishing violations”.

[broken venture]

They're going to Microsoft paint ms13 on our hands too 😭

[stiff mural]

They’ll change the ABXY button labels to MS13

[earnest pier]

it's 🎅

[earnest pier]

for legal reasons, this is a joke.

[winter turret]

@candid gyro hello sir! So the USB-C port DOES work for headphones with a 3.5 to USB-C adapter.🤔

I figured we had another Picket Micro situation on our hands, thankfully we're good there.

Speakers might be the same as from the Evo, not 100% certain but sounds pretty dang close.

Planning to livestream tomorrow or Friday with this bad boi.

Update: Friday it is.

[blissful mirage]

Oh damn

Didn't the Evo speakers suck?

[old pumice]

Can someone upload the pocket ace default wallpapers please 👍. I like the look of them....

[oblique granite]

Depends who you ask. They had a very present high midrange spike so for certain things like guitar driven music soundtracks they sounded awful IMO. But they do also have some low end so some retro stuff sounds ok.

[high valve]

tariffs or not, i can't get over the asking price for this, even the lowest their is too expensive. Been going back and forth and opting to just sit this one out 😦

[stiff mural]

https://tenor.com/view/rugrats-chucky-kid-adulting-i-dont-wanna-be-a-big-people-anymore-gif-15600933

[native vessel]

Same. I got the micro used recently and fell in love with it. So this seems amazing step up from that. But price is tough to swallow.

[sand gyro]

Yeah. I'm gonna pass. If it didn't have weird sticks and there weren't like 3 alternatives coming I'd be more tempted

[high valve]

Yup, I have the pocket micro and feel for 3:2 it's fine... anything larger doesn't bother me whether it's in 4:3 or 16:9. And also the stick placement, as usual, seems off.

[sand gyro]

Without alternatives this would be a guaranteed banger. But there's just too much cool in the segment coming

[native vessel]

To be honest if i were paying this money, id rather just go a step up and get Pocket S2

Better screen and all that.

[high valve]

yeeeeeeeeah, with those reasons it's gonna be a hard pass. Sucks but i'd instantly get buyer's remorse and email ayaneo to cancel my order otherwise 🤣

[sand gyro]

I mean it'd super cool. It there weren't tons of other stuff to buy and, at least for me, there wasn't massive tarrif risks, it'd probably be a no-brainer

[daring hornet]

Standard ayaneo fare, why would you support this

[sand gyro]

Eh. Nothing else like it tho

[daring ridge]

Just got the Ace from the secret perk offer

For me there is nothing quite like it
A powerful, compact 3:2 device with a Qualcomm chipset

Almost my ideal device
Only oled missing, but close enough

My contribution id was over 200 but the funding page is still in 150 so I guess the secret ones don't really appear

[dapper rivet]

you get an ever increasing number assigned, but IGG obviously isn't using every single one or you could just randomly message them to change the shipping address

[daring hornet]

Raaah super sp!!!!!!!

[sturdy mulch]

Failed orders (due to website, card issue etc), cancelled orders etc still increases contribution id in igg

[weak aspen]

lord that light bleed

is that worse than the cube?

yeah its worse

[native vessel]

Thats quite painful. For someone who plays in bed a lot at night. That would annoy me. @winter turret does your unit have this?

[rotund galleon]

Oh man

https://tenor.com/view/jhus-utdmahi-mahi-hustla-gif-20479892

Did you see what I done (yeah, yeah)
Did you see what I done?

Ayaneo you cooked and finished my boy

[stiff mural]

$699 btw

[weak aspen]

it has to be a troll, theres just no way lol

[rotund galleon]

Let me ask is it bad than steam deck lcd

Real question

[weak aspen]

the above is as bad or worse than what i see on google

[hallow marlin]

Final proof that it is the same screen as on the KTR1

[winter turret]

At certain angles the screen reflects funny, but I dont see bleed like the cube

[weak aspen]

yours definitely isnt as bad as the ones above

[winter turret]

Here's from a different angle, but it's not appearing to be "bleed" like the cube had

Not sure about Roland's that looks more like traditional bleed 🤔

Can we get video and shift the angles around? @chrome rain

Is the ktr1 like this? Its been a few years since I had one

[chrome rain]

I don't own the device. Just saw these pics posted at Baidu tieba.

[blissful mirage]

Oh god

[dapper rivet]

they bad stuff gets sold domestically, that's normal

[daring ridge]

Are they shipping internationally already?
Or only in china for now?

[dapper rivet]

shipping should start this months somewhere, those shown are most likely per-production units send out for review

[high valve]

i hope for those who backed this that you're right

[oblique granite]

This seems more like camera illusion than anything. My y700 looks like this on my cell phone camera and doesn’t really have light bleed.

[tough yarrow]

I was excited for this. Now I want to wait a while

[winter turret]

Going live with the Pocket Ace at 5pm PST today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ5IDAYUPnk

Drop any questions or game requests in Live chat

[jade ridge]

I already preordered the retro power version.

Will prob get the evo or s2 eventually as well.

[daring ridge]

Retro one looks cool

I went with a black 16/512

Didn't feel like I needed 1tb internal storage with it having a sd card

Would mostly be used for native android apps

[night furnace]

I decided to say “fuck it” and get the 8GB Black Pocket Ace, since even though they said they wouldn’t cover the shipping I still can at least ensure they’ll pay back the rest.

[round epoch]

Just buy an rp5 bro 😜

[night furnace]

I’ve got that and I’m already planning on selling it because I got the Flip 2 to replace it (and I frankly already think the Flip 2 is outright more comfortable than the RP5), I want this because honestly I like it, and as long as they (or at least my credit card company) are willing to reimburse me for even just the device’s price if they don’t hold up their word on delivering it, I’ll be fine getting this.

[round epoch]

Hah all good, just being a smart ass.. wasn’t aiming that at you.. 😀

Still get cold sweats about my ktr1

[night furnace]

Oh boy, as one of the people who got the early units and immediately returned it due to the fact mine already had a bloated battery from that goddamn poorly-located screw, say no more.

[winter turret]

This is beating my previous Pocket Evo results:

And previous Evo geekbench was 1919 single / 5043 multi

[dapper rivet]

if only this screen had a better resolution, this would probably get pretty close to the perfect 3:2 device

1920x1280 would be nicer
2880x1920 would be the perfect 3:2 screen

[daring ridge]

I mean, it's such a tiny screen

The pixel density is great on the ace

And has enough power to abuse shaders on the lower end systems for better scalling

The Evo has a pixel density of 350 ppi
The Pocket ace has 432 ppi so it should look sharper

[blazing hare]

Exactly, you get to a point where resolution really isn't a issue at all at this screen size.
Maybe for perfect integer scaling you might want a different resolution but overall it's fine

[dreamy orchid]

Is this on a single run? If so, it needs to be done on the 20 minute test to see what sustained performance is like

[sterile shard]

So like, not even being mean or whatever, just curious. To anyone who wants this, genuinely what's the appeal? I just don't get the appeal over like anything else

[muted dirge]

I feel like this would have been more compelling if it had been stick top

[native vessel]

I wanted this but i have RP5 sat there doing nothing. Im sure i can deal with black bars rather than an aspect ratio screen. Also RP5 plays everything I need. If it were smaller. I probs would have gone for it. But it looked almost same size as Odin Mini from @winter turret stream

[sterile shard]

Seems like I'd want a pocket micro before this even

[native vessel]

Need more size comparisons. Its not quite on Retro Catalog yet

[sterile shard]

Idk to me it's just hard to make sense of this one

[native vessel]

I have micro. Love it! But RP5 if i want a step up

[muted dirge]

If the RP5 and Odin Mini didn't exist it would make more sense

but as it is it doesn't offer much that hasn't already been done

[native vessel]

If you have a black RP5 even more so as black bars blend into shell

[muted dirge]

or, god forbid, an RP Mini

smaller screen but not dramatically so

honestly I think I'd rather rock an RP Mini than this

[native vessel]

Also after the Evo im not keen on jumping head first in with Aya again

I got my micro used

[muted dirge]

Aya is often a mixed bag but in their defense the DMG turned out pretty good

not all their Android handhelds are horrifically flawed on release

[sterile shard]

Something happen with your evo?

[native vessel]

Thermal issues. Was a whole thing 😅

Sorted now after all that mess

[native vessel]

Yeah but same issue with thermals. I haven’t done thermal fix to my DMG. Still power left on the table really 🤷🏻‍♂️

If you pay this much money you expect to get every drop out of the device

[muted dirge]

true

wasn't as big of a concern on the DMG than on the Evo to me but yes

[daring ridge]

3:2 screen
So everything looks fine on it
4:3 and 16:9 have minimal bezels
Really compact device
Really powerful device

Mostly it for me

It has a really nice size and can even run some ps3 on the new emulator

If you want a compact and powerful 3:2 there isn't any other option really

Especially if you want snapdragon

[native vessel]

Yeah i dont play hardcore games on my dmg. So yeah 😅

[daring ridge]

A bit smaller than the odin 2 overall

But basically the difference from reducing to 3:2

From 16:9

So they are equivalent overall

[native vessel]

Fair enough. If this is your only device i would say go for it! It can’t be beat. But if you own an RP5 or Odin Mini it doesn’t make much sense. Just my opinion though. I don’t doubt it is an amazing handheld though. I just wish it were smaller.

[daring ridge]

I agree

There is no point if you have something similar already

I don't have a powerful android device (aside from my phone) yet

Mostly lower end handhelds

So from the multiple formats this one is more atractive for me

So it's just a matter of preference

Pricing wise at least the early bird price is basically the same as the equivalent for an odin 2 mini

But at full price will definetly be too expensive

[native vessel]

Yeah. If this ticks your boxes go for it! But price is hard to swallow. 😅 regardless you will happy haha

I now need something inbetween the micro and ace haha

I love my micro. But something tad bigger would be perfect

[dapper rivet]

most of us are just addicts

I have Odin 2 Portal, Odin 2 Mini, RP5 and Flip 2, yet I still kinda want this

despite this screen not even doing great integer scaling

how nice 2880x1920 would be

[native vessel]

100% agree. Odin 2 portal, Odin 2 Max, Odin 2 mini, Aya Evo, Aya DMG, Aya Pocket Air, Aya Micro, RP5, RP Flip 2, RP Classic x4. RP Mini 😅 i better stop 😂😂😂

[dapper rivet]

I kinda want the DMG, but ehhhhh, first my 3 RP Classic should arrive

[native vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-catch-em-all-gif-5662253

[daring ridge]

And people still wonder who would buy this 😂

I have too many low end devices

If I had more money I'd certainly buy the more expensive ones more often

Playing with new things is always fun

[native vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-to-spread-it-over-a-couple-of-different-credit-cards-liz-lemon-30rock-i-dont-have-enough-max-my-cards-out-gif-21958816

[gleaming oak]

i thought i was bad 😄

(which i am) xD

[native vessel]

Thats not even the full list

😅

I had over 100 handhelds at one point

[gleaming oak]

fair 😄 i did get a 406h this week as i found one for a good price, after i said i wouldnt

[native vessel]

One i don’t have. I have been trying to stop myself lately. How do you find it?

[dapper rivet]

I have 70

[gleaming oak]

only got it yesterday so still setting it up, first impressions good though