Powkiddy V90S

[fair bolt]

Reddit theory, don't feed the trolls

[haughty hazel]

You dudes really acting dumb and ignorant right now @coral eagle is not required to provide this community with anything it’s not his job he gives insights when he gets it. Y’all over here acting like you paid for something and he failed to deliver. He doesn’t owe anyone here damn thing. Try being appreciative that he gave us any info at all. And by the way it’s cheap electronics and plastic that we use to play old videos games there just toys

[coral eagle]

Guys let's just take the energy down a little bit.

I appreciate the support but it's not necessary. This is just all for fun guys.

[wary hazel]

Am I too late to virtue signal what a great person I am?

[acoustic pecan]

I just thought it was cool they were rebooting the v90

That one was definitely not on my bingo card

[wary hazel]

Can't believe it took them this many years honestly

[coral eagle]

It's never too late to grow into a better person.

[urban imp]

I hope PK makes stickers for this like they did for the RGB20S and RGB20SX, just a fun little tidbit

[urban imp]

oh and PK I feel should just include little Powkiddy ninja dude stickers in with their devices, again more fun

[rose knoll]

I would put those everywhere tbh

[urban imp]

I feel all the handheld companies need stickers

[rose knoll]

PK has the best mascot/logo of any of these companies

[urban imp]

let me make a weirdo sticker bomb on my laptop

[north haven]

You don't like Retroid's 3/4 of a circle?

[graceful edge]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RQnde7vFDLA

[lilac iris]

Same manufacturer as Miyoo flip? lol...

[umbral scaffold]

Idk the specifics, but apparently the hinge in the Miyoo Flip is way too complicated for something rather cheaply made like a lower end SBC handheld

Whereas the hinges featured in the V90 and xxSP are much simpler and functionally better

[dawn lava]

the screen does not look good in that short

[old raven]

From official QQ chatroom shared by your so called Chairman Pow

[umbral scaffold]

I was wondering wtf the point of that video was but I realised it's to show that the buttons aren't loud

I figure we have another 3.5" 640x480 screen

And if it is, it'll be a bit smaller than the xxSP, but still bigger than the Miyoo Flip and GBA SP

[gloomy bane]

Looks like a nice 35xxsp alternative. Hopefully not as big. Lack of sticks may make dreamcast/n64 a bit tricky. But im all for it. Can’t wait!

[chilly bough]

Was really hoping for solid black

[hidden dune]

could be a133p?

[high river]

Please no 😭

[umbral scaffold]

Do people dislike A133P because of thermal problems?

[high river]

I have both Brick and TSP, and despite of their beauty, personally I won't play game with both. if it has no sticks, I'd prefer 3326, 3356, or H700. At least they're more comfortable for my preference.

[umbral scaffold]

Doesn't really sound like a chipset problem?

You just don't like Trimui's OS

[unborn dock]

A133P also doesnt run all ports and indeed runs hot

[icy lava]

Sold 💴

[tiny mist]

Powkiddy once again holding the yellow monopoly.

[deft wagon]

imo as a mech eng neither one differs much in complexity. I think what happened was earlier in the design process they decided on the single center large hinge rather than the sp style double asymmetric hinge. this forced engineers further down the pipeline to use a solution that isn't as robust or well tested

this might be copium but the size of the bezel on this makes me think it's the bricks 3.2" screen

[umbral scaffold]

I need to ask you mate

Why are you named after Elon's son

[deft wagon]

been my online handle since the kid was born, thought it would be a niche reference forever but that's not how things panned out obviously

also I prefer grimes's son

one daughter already disowned him so the others will probably follow suit

[high river]

Nope, I'm fine with crossmix and PakUI. It's just the device temp that too warm for me. Maybe because I live in tropical country. Brick can reaches 43-45C easily when playing even light GBA/GBC games. TSP seems worse, mine reaches 50C when playing psp games. Meanwhile all of my Anbernic's H700 devices feels cooler at 38-39max.

[umbral scaffold]

So it is the thermals

[tropic pivot]

I mean PSP is not a good metric either, you're literally pushing the chip to its absolute max 😆

[umbral scaffold]

I haven't had trouble with the Zero 28, but that's a fair bit thicker along with a lower res screen

[high river]

yeah, I think so.
But the reason TSP has 16:9 is for playing psp, right? Because I really hate black bars 😂

[tropic pivot]

I would say no personally

the a133p is far from a perfect psp chip

T618 minimum for PSP personally

I've no interest in playing psp on the TSP

[high river]

Totally agree! Now I just use it to play some portmaster games which supports 16:9.

[tropic pivot]

I honestly use mine for GBA mostly, it looks great on the TSP screen

[umbral scaffold]

There are chipsets weaker than T618 that can run full PSP, but they're really aren't that many devices on the market with them

[hidden dune]

could look to be that or a527 anyways

it runs batocera out of the box and runs dreamcast better than rk3326

[heady belfry]

Running dreamcast better than 3326 is not exactly hard thing

[hidden dune]

yeah, but i doubt it's an rk3566

[heady belfry]

I bet its a133(p)

[urban imp]

plot twist it's PKs first H700 device

[rose knoll]

I hope it’s not a133 either 😅 full PortMaster would be nice

[hidden dune]

there will never be a perfect sp and you know it

[rose knoll]

Miyoo Flip’s getting close-ish to a spruce release. We have PM and its ports generally running on the last several nightlies, including some 32 bit games now if Miyoo could just dial the hardware jank level down a few more clicks for a v3

[eager sonnet]

Sonic Adventure without sticks it's just crap in my attention

[leaden oxide]

I want slanted start/select dammit

[frigid tree]

errm what about the 3.5 mm? 😱

[formal edge]

Oh snap, you're right! There's no headphone jack! >_<

[dawn tulip]

what? ew

are we sure there isn't one at the top lol

[frigid tree]

theres two usb-c ports

[rose knoll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283238170065895476/1329583171020263515/pain.gif

[frigid tree]

honestly now, i hereby officially demand a 3.5 mm. and yeah, im properly entitled to it. lol

[leaden oxide]

Hm, ya that kinda sucks...a headphone jack is on almost all handhelds eh?

[umbral scaffold]

No headjack lmao

Yeah basically the only handhelds to not have them are Ayaneo's

[frigid tree]

i will accept a proper usb-c to 3.5mm adapter included in the package tho.

[rose knoll]

depending on the implementation 😬 hopefully not some proprietary nonsense like on the A30

[frigid tree]

i mean we are talking powkiddy here, but i still can imagine them anticipating that customers will blame them for ditching the 3.5 mm and they will cheap out on it and just put a low quality adapter in the box.

[light sparrow]

Damn I was hoping to want to buy this but it looks just as thick as the anbernic RG35XX SP 😦

[urban imp]

I might go for this mainly because it's got membrane buttons and dpad

[neat snow]

🔥 🔥 🔥

Powkiddy V90S

[icy lava]

The main reason I don’t play the xxSP is because of those damn buttons.

[frigid tree]

same

[orchid ether]

oh please, metallic red

[leaden oxide]

Ya clicky buttons are annoying in most situations, you sound like a madman too lol

[icy lava]

They could contribute to a divorce.

[hard escarp]

it’s rk3576

[shell igloo]

So it’s better than the RK3566?

[hard escarp]

idk i’m speculating same as everyone 🤣

[fair bolt]

The rk3576 is the latest & Greatest in the RK chip line up. More battery efficiency version of the rk 3588 lol. It's the most capable ps2/GC/Wii chip 🤣

Ain't no way PK is putting that in a v90s budget device. It's super sarcasm, for those that are unfamiliar with this particular chip

[plucky hare]

Will rk3576 play ps2 and gamecube? Any devices planning to use it?

The dream is ps2 and gamecube on ARM Linux

[deft wagon]

my bet is on rk3326, cheap and cfw devs will have an easier time

[fair bolt]

yes, same performace as 3588. but the chip just came out december 2024. price is prob high so they are waiting for it to go down before putting it into anything lol

[hidden dune]

i personally doubt it

if they were using an rk3326, it would be running arkos or emuelec

[fair bolt]

Assuming Christian even wants to support it lol

[icy lava]

It will be cheap like the original, that’s there thing and I’m happy with that. That will be great because it will have ArkOS on a flip device. Win 🏆

[frigid tree]

i shall hope so.

[eager sonnet]

Rk3128

[heady belfry]

A33

[hard escarp]

I do know there’s a device getting developed with this 😏

[umbral scaffold]

Really?

[icy lava]

If not someone will bootleg it on if it’s a 3326

[hard escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-wait-is-that-me-gif-14915217

[fair bolt]

Wait.....is this a joke? I can't tell with your sense of Dry Humor lol

[fallow void]

Honestly this kinda overtook the 557 for me. Lol. Between this and the RGB50. But who knows when this will actually show up

[frigid tree]

let’s hope they don’t pull a magicx and put at least a chip in there that’s what they advertise it with OR BETTER.

[fallow void]

i mean i don't mind my miyoo flip v1, still going strong

[frigid tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-dean-winchester-jensen-ackles-supernatural-spell-gif-20357067

[fallow void]

haha, def interested in alternatives like this

[hard escarp]

Nope, I know of an unannounced T820 and an RK3576.

[fierce sluice]

I don't think the rk3576 is anywhere near/comparable to the rk3588, both cpu and GPU.
If anything rk3576 is slightly weaker than the a311d/s922x on paper.

[heady belfry]

Yeah around s922x

With weaker gpu

[unborn dock]

guys let's be honest it will be either rk3566 or A133p 😛

[fair bolt]

Thank you for Clarifying!

Wtf is that GPU in the 3576 🤣

I had heard it was capable of ps2/GC/wii & was just more battery conscious lol

I know that 3588 is a Battery hog, & was more designed for Plug into wall Units

[heady belfry]

imagine gpu in 3566 x3 and tiny bit higher clock

[fierce sluice]

Another way to look at the GPU: 1.5x of the one in the t618 at a higher clock

[fair bolt]

Oh! So it is actually an improvement lol. I thought it was the same as the 3566

[heady belfry]

Mali nomenclature is quite confusing

[hard escarp]

how about retrohandheld nomenclature

[heady belfry]

its not as dumb as monitors, but powkiddy gets really closed

[keen depot]

It's RK3326S 😛

[heady belfry]

in that case I bet Powkiddy would use the lower power draw (compared to a regular 3326) to ship some ludicrously small battery

[orchid ether]

I just want this thing to have decent battery life and play gba games well. snes would be a huge bonus.

[frigid tree]

i find your lack of a 3.5 mm disturbing

i absolutely love the color

[coral eagle]

I play without sound anyway, so I'm not the one to talk to 😂

But I get how it's a bitch to not have one.

[coral eagle]

You know what it is 😂

[frigid tree]

damn right 🧽 🧀

[umbral scaffold]

Sometimes...I dream about cheese...

[warped sedge]

[eager sonnet]

You going to share the CPU yet or maybe accidentally show the software information

[coral eagle]

I don't have those details. I haven't seen the specs. I don't know this information.

And here's the thing, if I'm not telling you just assume I either don't have that information or I'm not allowed to share. If I give you something they told me not to they're not going to give me anything else.

[eager sonnet]

My apologies I made the assumption that was your video with you using it

[coral eagle]

Sorry man those are definitely not my hands 😂

[eager sonnet]

I took another look sorry again it's still early and I'm half awake

[coral eagle]

But I understand where your question comes from now that you point it out 😂

[coral eagle]

I'm on the other side of that coin and it's definitely time for a beer

[eager sonnet]

Also I'm aware that you'll never share anything you're not supposed to don't worry I get that. I wish other people would respect that. My mistake was that I thought you had it in hand and was using it

[coral eagle]

I'll try to get that info out as soon as I can.

[eager sonnet]

So since you brought it up what is your favorite beer? I'm a dark beer lover Shiner bock is my favorite it's a beer from Texas

[coral eagle]

Love shiner. Here we really have the three main Thai beers, singha, Leo, and Chang (please if you come here say "sing" and "chaaang" not chang like in change.) of those three, singha is the best but Leo is the strongest. Craft beer has become a much bigger thing here and there are some that are really good. Not a big fan of ipas but stouts and porters are always great. Vitus and dunkel* are always great choices with the heat here too. Dark but not too heavy.

Not a huge drinker tho

[eager sonnet]

Same I'm drink maybe 3 to 5 times a year my problem is usually when I drink I do drink too much

[worn crow]

what the... Powkiddy is omitting the headphone jack now?

[frigid tree]

it’s their apple moment

do we know if the V90s will keep the BL-5C?

[coral eagle]

This is what's on tap at this one. Kind of a hipster place. Prices are okay. Five bucks for a guiness is meh but $12ish for the flight is pretty decent.

[umbral scaffold]

Omitting the headphone jack is such an odd decision

Modern smartphones don't feature them anymore because they keep striving to be thinner and thinner, regardless of how dumb that is

But this should have more than enough space to feature one

[fallow void]

Yeah. Gotten so used to not using one it never really bothers me anymore

Pretty sure I don't have any good wired buds or headset anymore anyway

But I've never fallen down the audiophile hole so I'm sure people have sweet gear out there that would take advantage of it

[tropic pivot]

I would think no, higher capacity cells are more expensive to come by

And I'd think they'd want a higher capacity battery to power whatever CPU will be in it

[frigid tree]

imho using the bl5c was genius

[rose knoll]

Looks chonky like the XX SP

Buttons also look lower profile than I was first thinking?

[frigid tree]

power button instead of a switch is a huge improvement.

they decided to release an official teaser on yt. i dont understand why they don’t show the whole thing real quick.

[tropic pivot]

Oh it totally was!

I loved that feature of have hotswappable easily acquirable batteries

[urban imp]

A big brain move that I wish was possible with more powerful handhelds

[deft wagon]

i have been in the rabbit hole for a decade, I never use the jack on these devices, they are all terrible. Dongles have gotten so good and so cheap over the years they are what i always use

but i have had some not work so hopefully powkiddy makes sure of wider compatibility

[umbral scaffold]

Dongles?

[frigid tree]

usb-c to 3.5 mm

[frail sphinx]

Has Bluetooth been ruled out for reasons why it might not have a headphone jack?

[frigid tree]

no i don’t think so. i just like having options.

[icy lava]

I haven’t used a headphone jack in probably 10 years and don’t own any, to me it’s like using a VHS tape 😂 glad it doesn’t have one, less ports the better.

[frigid tree]

https://tenor.com/view/disagree-yeah-ooh-oh-yeah-oh-yes-gif-15457988

[dawn tulip]

may I interest you in aya neo handhelds?

[fallow void]

pretty sure the audio port is where the alien shoves it's ovipositor so he has a point

[warped sedge]

[warped island]

wait they dropped the headphone jack...

[light sparrow]

Powkiddy has usb c audio on the rgb30, I would hope this has it too

[frigid tree]

probably. what if you wanted to charge the thing and use headphones at the same time?

oh it has 2 usb-c, right

[deft wagon]

34xxsp rumoured for may, this has stiff competition now

[umbral scaffold]

Yup

[dawn lava]

V90 is over party 🥳🎉

[fair bolt]

Depends on Price

[narrow cargo]

Anbernic can still fuck it up too

They have a track record

[unborn dock]

That's true, but its unfortunately more likely for Powkiddy to fuck it up

[fallow void]

Haha true

If both good it might come down to color for me XD

[umbral scaffold]

I really want a cobalt blue clamshell

But someone explained that that kinda colouration is pretty unfeasible for cheap handhelds like these

[fallow void]

Yeah. Metallics in general are usually skipped

Outside of like silver. But even that is pretty rare

[narrow cargo]

Metallics are usually painted on anyway, with dyed plastic underneath

[fallow void]

Electroplated or vapored yeah

Pretty sure some also have flaked added to the plastic mix tho. For the sparkle effect

[karmic trail]

Honestly they just need to use the trimui brick/rgb 20 screen and they're golden

[umbral scaffold]

From what little we've seen of the device, it seems really unlikely, unfortunately

[wary hazel]

Two devices is better odds at least one of them doesn't fuck something up

[frigid tree]

idk. they‘ll both be flawed.

[thin bane]

It just needs to be a bit better than the original V90, then it's fine.

Surely ... it couldn't get worse than the original.

[calm hare]

yeah i mean if it can do snes/gba/ps1 well thats enough lol everything else is gravy. v90 those were bonus systems

[warped island]

ps1 is exactly what I'd want this for

[fair bolt]

3326 would be perfect in this form factor

[calm hare]

yeah honestly id be happy with 3326 or 3566 over some untested new chip

[icy lava]

If it’s either of these 2 we could get Rocknix or arkOS which will be awesome!

[calm hare]

yeah. a well-priced device with a good hinge and a known quantity chip is all this really needs to be

v90 was so popular because it was cheap and good enough and the form factor was great. they need to repeat that and just undercut anbernic and miyoo

[warped island]

3566 and brick screen would be a nice combo here

[karmic trail]

Yep, really all they would need to make a banger

[calm hare]

wouldnt hate 3326 tbh but yeah

[coral eagle]

They still haven't given me the specs. I think it's an allwinner. I honestly have no idea but it sounds like the B team did this one with set objectives from the A team

The hinge took a long time to get right

[coral eagle]

Remember though that the V90 OG was a miyoo(bittboy) clone

None of this would be here without Triforce

[hard escarp]

A133P then

[calm hare]

fair point. but yeah idk theres some competition for his form factor now so i think its important they get the details right

[hidden dune]

They have 2 teams at powkiddy?

Is that why quality varied so much between products?

[rose knoll]

He left out C through F teams

[coral eagle]

Yeah there are multiple teams. The x line typically gets all kinds of weird ideas. Historically some of those didn't work out so well.

They have some competition within the company but I think it's friendly

[hidden dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprised-stare-cat-stare-cat-stunned-cat-surprised-gif-8876880973939382846

[hidden dune]

you gotta appreciate they have an experimental line though

[warped island]

The team that does the rgb20sx/rgb10x/rgb30 deserves a raise

[eager sonnet]

Allwinner A33 ala same as miyoo a30 would suffice

[warped island]

Battery efficiency is key here and neither the a30 nor the a133 are on par with rockchip there

[urban imp]

I'd say the A133p is good enough, I've had no major complaints with battery life on my Z28

and performance wise it'll be solid for that the V90S is meant to be playing

[rose knoll]

This would definitely catch my interest even though it’s got some stiff limitations

[heady belfry]

In that regard 3326s with its shrunk node would suffice

[warped island]

that's a mirage

the 3326s is like a unicorn or a dragon, people talk about it a lot but I've never seen evidence of one

[heady belfry]

You know pixel 2 has one, right?

[warped island]

just a horse with a horn glued on by an unscrupulous OEM

[warped island]

a real one or a regular 3326 with a new silkscreen?

[heady belfry]

Real. Unfortunately nobody cares to port good software

[warped island]

dang, yeah the pixel 2 could be cool if it got muOS or something

[heady belfry]

Rocknix proper would be a logical upgrade (being based on it etc) but historically they dont like gkd much

[thin bane]

Because it's a hobby project it really depends if one of the devs that has the skills to do device bring-up has an interest.

For whatever reason, no one seems that interested in the GKD Pixel 2.

Same with keeping a device or SOC supported over time. If all the devs lose interest, it drops off.

[tiny tangle]

Need to see more x line

[rugged viper]

At least Powkiddy did some serious work on it before even releasing the prototype. I bought a SNES grey Miyoo Flip v2 without ever finding out about the hinge problems almost exclusively present on that model (mine is fine so far, but I don't know for how much longer). So I'm looking forward to this V90S (I have the original V90, and absolutely love it despite its limitations).

[rugged viper]

Which team created the RK2023?

[coral eagle]

The x28 is one. X55 too. Both went well.

[coral eagle]

I think hu himself and I convinced him to do the stealth+wifi version. I think there's more to it than that but that's the gist.

[coral eagle]

I don't have one but it looks and sounds like they got it. As soon as I get one I'll report back.

[rugged viper]

I really liked mine (it is the original version without WiFi). The problem is that the L2 button came loose/desoldered after only two weeks of use. I still have it there, pending repair.

[tropic pivot]

Why couldn't this be a 3:2 😭

[hard escarp]

Is the x team also responsible for the firmware of the x line?

[coral eagle]

I don't know. For the firmware, it sounds like there are different teams. They rely on a lot of community firmware and are trying to not lean on that so hard but I don't think they have as much skill as Christian or the rocknix team.

I know there is a team developing PowkiddyOS internally.

[hard escarp]

That's the one the X35S came with right

[eager sonnet]

I'd like to see pow Kitty become something along the lines of arm and design and Outsource their designs to different manufacturers instead of making the hardware themselves.

[high river]

would be happy if they go with 3326S since it has deep sleep support on Pixel 2 👌

[fallow void]

Feel like world is holding breath at this point

[warped sedge]

😴

[formal edge]

Or drowning. Either way it's underwater.

[umbral scaffold]

me when i kill too many enemies in silent hill 2

[icy lava]

After seeing the new anbernic flipping device this is back on the radar

[worn crow]

lol real

help us Powkiddy, you are our only hope

I kinda like the 3.4 screen though

if this is going to sport the same old cheapo 3.5 screen it's kinda a pass for me

[patent kraken]

when will this be coming out?

[burnt valve]

Yes

[patent kraken]

Thanks! That's super helpful. This means so much to me

[coral crane]

I see you’re up to speed now

[high river]

Please Powkiddy, use RG34XX screen 🙏🙏🙏

[fair bolt]

Please PK, use the TrimUI Brick Screen 🙏

We know you have it, it's in the RGB20 PRO

[uneven skiff]

It's definitely not a 3:2 display based on images shared lol

So not 34xx screen

[grand oar]

honestly....that would be pretty amazing....but i also doubt it lol

though now that ive become disappointed in what ive seen of the 34xxsp ill keep an eye out for this device 👀

[dreamy basin]

If it had that screen and good d-pad/controls I could see it being my EDC! Even if not... still buying one. 🙂

[oblique whale]

https://bsky.app/profile/takiudon.bsky.social/post/3lopwflxtjk2t

Taki Udon (@takiudon.bsky.social)

PowKiddy V90S arrived. Dual hinges and the battery isn’t a heatsink. Best of all, no screen tearing like the V90. I’ll try to get a first impressions done once I get pricing info.

Bluesky · May 9, 2025, 7:41 AM

[umbral scaffold]

Sending out review units before the specs are even revealed is fucking funny lol

[chilly bough]

I wish they did a solid black instead of transparent

[patent kraken]

Finally!

[solemn basin]

I see A133

Zoom in

Guess its not as budget as v90

Probably miyoo flip pricing since it has A133P on it

[hard escarp]

A133P

[boreal whale]

Hello, do we know if it will be the same size as the og v90?

[solemn basin]

At least we can run android on it

[umbral scaffold]

Most A133P devices are cheaper than RK3566 ones

So I wouldn't expect Miyoo Flip pricing

[solemn basin]

You forget flip tax

[boreal whale]

If it's the same size as the og and can use a fastbooting os like minui, that's all I need. The pixel 2 is cool but the cfw is where it lacks

[warped island]

Yeah I need to know size - my main complaint with the 35xxSP is thickness

[solemn basin]

Sold mine because of it

I see rg34xx is close to miyoo flip, I might get that

[north haven]

It's a v20 with a flip and no sticks

$50-$60 I'd assume

[solemn basin]

Trimui brick price

If its running a133p, such a shame it doesn't have sticks

Wasted opportunity for portmaster

Or android games

They should just put rk3326, upgrade the screen and use the same shell and sell for $30

And call it a day

Crippled by having no sticks.

[karmic trail]

Do we know the chip currently?

[north haven]

A133p

[karmic trail]

So it could run gammaos core

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-patrick-star-rubbing-hands-gif-18664752

[old raven]

My guess is even if it's rk3128, it can't be $30

Honestly I just wish they keep selling the v90 original and never update it outside of quality improvements

Or honestly they shouldn't be selling clamshell handhelds at all

[solemn basin]

No sticks though

[patent kraken]

source?

[rose knoll]

Yeah….. if that’s a 3.5” screen, then judging by the double bezel, it’s gonna be roughly the same size as the Anbernic 😭

Well, I guess that doesn’t speak to the thickness, but rather the width

[grand oar]

honestly i wouldnt mind the transparent black

but why is it everyone who does a transparent black on a budget scale

has to do a white pcb mask

[formal stream]

It lives!!!!! Very curious how this'll do. Don't need another A133p device but I'm pleased they're using that since it'll probably eventually get something like MuOS since an existing A133p port is in the works for the TSP + Brick

[grand oar]

that and nextui/pakui too

the only downside would be no 32bit support so portmaster wise we wouldnt be able to play things like AM2R for example

[frigid tree]

i may be very wrong, but it looks bigger than the V90. 35XXSP kinda big.

https://tenor.com/view/peace-dueces-fadeaway-gif-14327700

[warped island]

Yeah if this is 35xxSP sized I’m out too

Especially with the 34xxSP being miyoo flip/actual gba SP sized

(34xxSP, miyoo flip, 35xxSP from left to right)

[frigid tree]

how are the 34xxsp buttons compared to the flip?

[karmic trail]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-boi-he-thicc-anthony-fantano-thats-a-thicc-ass-boi-melon-the-needledrop-gif-15012595

[warped island]

No clue yet

[frigid tree]

lol right i was wondering how you got all 3 of em

[warped island]

Oh not my vid lol

That’s RGH

[tiny mist]

Looking at the photo again, that's (marginally) letterboxed SM64, you can tell by RA's framecounter. Brick screen?

[umbral scaffold]

It's weird

I don't see the letterboxing on the sides

Only the top and bottom

[tiny mist]

Hmm, stock settings mangling the aspect ratio then?

Yeah, suppose so presuming it's 3:2.

[rustic mountain]

DS version?

in single screen mode

[umbral scaffold]

Nah

[tiny mist]

Nah, DS version has no colors.

[umbral scaffold]

Mario looks super different in the DS version

[tiny mist]

Though to be fair the other levels got hit the hardest with desaturation, castle grounds is okay from memory.

[rustic mountain]

I dont think M64 is rendering at n64 standard res

on a 720p device its still letter boxed

when it should be full int scale

*its rendering at 320x240 but it is intentionally letterboxed

[umbral scaffold]

So they intentionally add black bars to the top and bottom?

[rustic mountain]

yeah its not so uncommon on older games, pushing less gfx for better fps and often not as noticable on CRT's due to overscan

[umbral scaffold]

Oh I found it out

The PAL version of SM64 is letterboxed

Apparently European TVs had a higher vertical res, so they just added black bars to that version

[rustic mountain]

its in the NTSC version as well tho

and yes PAL resolutions were higher but at less FPS

mattered more for pixel games

[umbral scaffold]

https://www.reddit.com/r/n64/comments/5rhdy7/why_isnt_super_mario_64_full_height_on_my_tv_when/?rdt=43984

[meager plover]

Alright, we got the brick's chip.
Now I pray for this screen to be the Brick/RGB20Pro's 3.2 Inch 1024*768 IPS 🙏

Powkiddy v90s short spotted on their youtube channel 👀
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RQnde7vFDLA

I still can't tell if this is a 3.5 or 3.2 inch screen.

[solemn basin]

Why is it so fucking huge.

[tranquil birch]

the size of the battery percentage and logo indicate to me that it's a 480p screen, so i smell 3,5 inch

see how the battery stuff is smaller on a higher res screen

[meager plover]

Damn! 😭
You make a really good point

The 3.2inch screen would have been so perfect for this thing.
You'd get an integer scale at 2.9inch (same size as a real GBA) which would be some sick fidelity to original hardware, or enough PPI to scale most consoles to aspect.

When will we break free from those 640x480 screens!

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/alfred-pennyworth-batman-never-gif-12899052

So I guess that settles it then

But

If the screen is 3.5"

It's fucking huge

Well not actually that huge?

It just seems to be a very similar size to the 35xxSP

And the main complaint about that device aside from the buttons is that it's a fair bit bigger than the original SP

Very similar proportions in the top part

The V90S basically only has one real niche then lol

That it's the only recent clamshell to not use dome switches for its buttons

[north haven]

Oh boy do I have something to tell you about the 34xxsp

[umbral scaffold]

Oh fr?

It doesn't use dome switches?

I just assumed it did

[north haven]

I also throught the flip had membrane

[umbral scaffold]

Nah

[north haven]

RGhandhelds had a video saying the 34xxsp had membrane, so there's that

but then deleted it

And checked again, the Miyoo Flop is membrane

[umbral scaffold]

Seriously?

I thought if you hold a button down and keep rocking it to a diagonal, only dome or micro switch D-pads would click, not rubber membrane

[north haven]

Membrane buttons can still click, depending on the construction

[umbral scaffold]

Alright then

[rustic mountain]

Miyoo flip is rubber membrane over tactile buttons

[umbral scaffold]

Did RGH actually mention the feel?

[rustic mountain]

Miyoo mini is conductive rubber membrane over contacts

[north haven]

Not sure, video was deleted so this is second hand

[rustic mountain]

its probably just a misnomer membrane style usually refers to conductive membranes only.

[umbral scaffold]

What does tactile actually mean in this particular case?

The Flip's D-pad feels pretty similar to the Brick's, actually

[rustic mountain]

id imagine its tactile buttons with a membrane like the xxSP/flip

they're much lower profile and basically cant fit conductive in that profile without making it like .5mm higher OAL

but I didnt get a chance to watch the video and idk sometimes is hard to tell without a teardown you can get real light tact buttons sometimes

[umbral scaffold]

That's pretty significant for me, actually

[rustic mountain]

*hard to tell from a video

[umbral scaffold]

I'm in the minority here, but I don't actually like how shallow of a press the Brick and Flip's D-pads are

Purely from a "feel" perspective

I think it's because I've spent a ton of time on my 28xx

That D-pad has quite a deep press as well as a ton of pivot

[shell igloo]

It's a 3:2 720 x 480 screen same as 34XX / 34XX SP

[rose knoll]

Flip is actually dome switches UNDER a membrane, same as the 35xxSP

[north haven]

huh, now I know

[rose knoll]

Sorry, just catching up and seeing TacoCat already explained it pretty well

[karmic trail]

The 480p curse

[fair bolt]

480p means Native Resolution for DC, x2 for Ps1

[karmic trail]

It also means that it's basically the same as any other handheld around the same price point

Not especially terrible, but not particularly interesting either

[fair bolt]

PK makes Interesting Devices recently?

[rustic mountain]

They've been trying the 4 pro? That never released and the upcoming rgb50 looks cool

[fair bolt]

RGB50 & RGB30/20SX are like their most Interesting devices by a long shot. The x55 is just a great device in general, but would we call it Interesting?

[rustic mountain]

It could be to some people since it's fairly cheap

[fair bolt]

I want to love PK, the rgb30 is my new Daily Driver & fav device. But it's a device from 2023 right?

[rustic mountain]

Not sure that old but in the grand scheme of things yeah it's old but its still an often 50$ rk3566 with a nice screen

It's just not popular

[fair bolt]

I wish this device would have just gone for the Brick screen with a rk 3326 instead of the a133p

Would have given it ArkOS support (Hopefully) and still been cheaper by a long shot

[rustic mountain]

All depends on price imo it has to kill it or people are just going to by 35xx or 34xx tbh

Same if it were a 3326

[fair bolt]

I always thought the 3326 was 1 of the cheapest chips considering they were selling v10 devices for $40 brand new & $30 on sale lol

[rustic mountain]

It could be going back up idk if rk is still making the older non s ver

[fair bolt]

That is a fair point lol

[rustic mountain]

If there's still tons of dead stock yeah it would likely be cheaper

[fair bolt]

While the a133p just gets to warm over time, I doubt this thing will have any level of cooling

Would be nice tho lol, a tiny little fan

[rustic mountain]

Honestly doesn't need it if they manage the CPU sanely

[fair bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/juno-im-just-like-losing-my-faith-with-humanity-juno-macguff-humanity-losing-my-faith-gif-27449421

[rustic mountain]

Most of the a133p heat issues is OS ocing higher than it needs to run for most emulators

[fair bolt]

Besides GammaOS, I wonder if MuOS would then be a possibility since they are working on Brick/Tsp?

[rustic mountain]

It's up to them I think it would be a pretty lateral move once they get the tsp brick figured

Assuming screen/ram/wireless choices don't bung things up driver wise

[fair bolt]

Or PK Stock OS isn't in the way 🤣

[rustic mountain]

Do they still fuck around and try to lock bootloader

Thought muOS wasn't building off os drivers like stock+ or minui

But I don't follow it that closely

[fair bolt]

No clue, I haven't heard anyone making any CFW/CSW yet for the new x35h device. So I didn't know if the new StockOS was a problem, or devs just went interested in the device

[rustic mountain]

Popularity drives dev work if a dev doesn't come around that like a device they sometimes just die

[fair bolt]

I believe MuOS was built from their own tho

[rustic mountain]

Yeah there usually is some fuckery to deal with uboot at a more low level for some devices so might be a case of that

[tiny mist]

Arc would be a good example of this.

[rustic mountain]

Tsp/brick for example were generally easier afaik uboot just looks for certain files on sd card before loading stock

Not all are like that

[bright star]

did we get a price for this?

[rustic mountain]

Taki is waiting on price to drop his video

so hopefully soon for info

[meager plover]

I honestly wish!
Based on the pictures it looks 4:3.
Did some napkin math on a screenshot to see if it'd confirm what the eye sees...

[fallow void]

Think looks wise I like this over the Anbernic. Too bad both might be chokers

[meager plover]

Will look forward to get a definite confirmation on its size and resolution.
Could be someone with small hands? And a deceiving angle in the pictures that make it look bigger?

[shell igloo]

I did napkin math on this image and got exactly 3:2. Can you confirm if you get the same on this image?

Sources:
https://bsky.app/profile/takiudon.bsky.social/post/3lopwflxtjk2t
https://x.com/TakiUdon_/status/1920745092794429790/photo/1

Taki Udon (@takiudon.bsky.social)

PowKiddy V90S arrived. Dual hinges and the battery isn’t a heatsink. Best of all, no screen tearing like the V90. I’ll try to get a first impressions done once I get pricing info.

Bluesky · May 9, 2025, 7:41 AM

Taki Udon (@TakiUdon_) on X

PowKiddy V90S arrived. Dual hinges and the battery isn’t a heatsink. Best of all, no screen tearing like the V90. I’ll try to get a first impressions done once I get pricing info.

X · May 9, 2025, 7:38 AM

[rustic mountain]

We figured out earlier that Mario64 is cropped/letterboxed run it in a pc emulator at 4:3 and it will still have black bars

(so it might be hard to get accurate pixel measurements)
assuming 2x scale so 640x480 theres 14/14 rows of black pixels on top/bottom and 6/6 left/right side)

pulled using bizhawks screenshot tool (NTSC version 320x240 internal res)

in a photo viewer with off colored background for dark theme people

and the border persists during play as well

[meager plover]

Nice catch on the black bars in that specific game!
Can also see that the FPS counter ends above the area used by the game

That was a cheeky curve ball of a version to use to show off a new device with no confirmed specs haha

[rustic mountain]

turns out its actually alot of N64 games, im used to a few on snes etc being weird but like I tested afew and they all had some(varied) amount of cropping

[meager plover]

Castlevania SotN on PSX is one that I remember encountering something similar

[rustic mountain]

PS1 was pretty bad swapping during menus/gameplay/movies etc

video capture cards hate this one thing.jpg

[warped island]

yup, the assumption was you would have overscan on a CRT, and on a 3d system why tank your framerate rendering pixels nobody is gonna see

[rustic mountain]

yeah but its still strange to see it used so heavily by everyone (on n64 from the stuff ive been looking at today)

unless it was part of some nintendo sdk to have it by default idk that deep on this specific case

[warped island]

you see black bars on ps1 a fair bit too

all the early 3d systems

[rustic mountain]

sure but PS1 there were many games that didnt bother

rn im having a time finding ANY n64 games that did use the full frame

so im leaning towards it might just be a native feature in the n64 rsp/rdp

[warped island]

tbf even with the black borders most n64 games struggle to stay north of 25 fps lol

(on real hardware)

[rustic mountain]

yeah was kinda a shitshow 🤣

I need to go find a homebrew game I know used full 480i features

https://tenor.com/view/this-wasnt-the-plan-kevin-hart-cold-as-balls-this-wasnt-part-of-the-plan-we-didnt-plan-for-this-gif-21268533

the shit I get looking into on a friday night

yup still pillar boxed the more you know the weirder these old systems get

[frigid tree]

beyond good & evil gc has baked in bezels for no good reason.
thank god shaders can fix it.

[hard escarp]

Unless they fix the a133p fw this is gonna be shit. And if they fix it they'd be fixing the V20 as well so two birds with 1 stone

[heady belfry]

this will likely need muos or knulli badly.

[patent kraken]

Isn't the a133p too powerful for a device without analogs?

[fair bolt]

TrimUI brick doesn't seem to mind it

[unborn dock]

a133p is on the same level as H700 when it comes to power, even Rk3566 is stronger. It mostly plays games up to PS1, so I think no sticks should be OK

[fair bolt]

Sticks are great for Some Ps1, the barely Playable DC/N64/PsP, and any ports you can get running

[umbral scaffold]

People just like having overhead for systems that weaker chipsets can already run

Lets you mess with shaders and stuff

[deft wagon]

more powerful chips also give better battery life for low end systems if managed correctly

[boreal whale]

The v90s is supposed to drop this month right?

[umbral scaffold]

Who knows

[still silo]

and portmaster goodness!

[boreal whale]

I just noticed, no audio jack???

[umbral scaffold]

Indeed not

[patent kraken]

such a faithful clone...

[burnt valve]

USB C audio?

[boreal whale]

Hopefully

[solemn basin]

unless it costs $30-40, this is doa

[rose knoll]

Oh wait I thought we were in a different channel lmao

I take back my doubt

$40 seems like the sweet spot lol

[fair bolt]

$50, and that is solely based on the cost of the 35xxSP 🤣

This one has the Mushy Membrane & less Micro Switches

[boreal whale]

I wish is was the same size as the og but looks like it's gonna be bigger

[dawn tulip]

any passing interest I had in this is gone knowing it will be larger than og

[umbral scaffold]

You got that right

They had one job lol

[frigid tree]

i mean it’s powkiddy after all

[normal moss]

Judging by the comments, I guess it's not worth buying if I have RG35XX SP already?

[rose knoll]

Maybe if you’re not a big fan of the clicky buttons on the SP

[normal moss]

I don't mind them tbh.

I haven't played it for a while, I stored it in a box after I finished MGS1 on it.

[rose knoll]

The Anbernic will have better PortMaster compatibility thanks to the V90S using the A133P which doesn’t play well with 32-bit libraries on Linux

V90S might have slightly better “high end” emulator performance though

[karmic trail]

And possible android support

[coral eagle]

I said as much. Mine is on the way. I have asked for specs nine times.

Release is imminent

[warped island]

presumably we'll get specs on the store page lol

[coral eagle]

I think part of the issue is that it's the b team

Why was this not a main project? I don't know.

[light sparrow]

Why B team for their most requested device lol

[fair bolt]

Because "V" naming scheme is their budget line

[high river]

Interesting!

Is the X35H made by A team? Because I feel its build quality feels much better than usual Powkiddy devices.

[stray maple]

Trying to make sense of the Powkiddy naming conventions is a fools errand.

[rose knoll]

Then what’s their Q line? And actually some of their worst AND best handhelds of the past few years were X devices. I don’t think the names mean much lol

[fair bolt]

"X" = Experimental

RGB = Classic Line

V = Budget Line

[rose knoll]

Maybe today, but what about this stinker

https://powkiddy.com/products/powkiddy-x39pro-4-3-inch-ips-screen-handheld-video-game-console-x39-retro-game-ps1-support-wired-controllers-childrens-gifts

not much experimental about this weakling

Their “old” X line was cheapo stuff

Same with X51, X70, X80… all basically ewaste devices, I wouldn’t consider them in the same “line” as the X55, X35S, or X35H

MEANING:

the letters in the names don’t have any consistent meaning, at least across the history of their devices

[umbral scaffold]

480x272?!

What a resolution

[rose knoll]

I resolve to never subject myself to a screen with such poor ppi

[stray maple]

I mean, that was the PSP screen resolution.....

[rose knoll]

Still a terrible res for most retro games

[grand oar]

eh... not the worst.... its just using a psp screen

that said if we talk about buying one today i would look elsewhere

[rustic dagger]

Not awful persay, powerful enough to handle ps1, there was some preliminary work to get custom code on it done by acme, actually getting programs up and running. Not all that locked down from what I remember, just a little too proprietary and too little community interest for much developer interest after acme took an infinite hiatus from working on it

[worn crow]

https://youtu.be/UAO2JBjRRBk?si=vZ9KzNVEVNACeGeD

for some reason I now have this image of Powkiddy as a slightly worse version of the A team

In 2020, a crack team of engineers was banned from a major console brand for making too many emulators.
These men promptly escaped to the Shenzhen underground.
Today, still wanted by copyright lawyers, they survive as creators of budget handhelds.
If you have a ROM, if no one else can play it, and if you can find one in stock...
Maybe you can play it... with the B-Team

[coral eagle]

I don't know if that's accurate every time.

The x line used to be the cheapo one but it became more experimental. The v was usually just a vertical of some kind. Q was mini, and then RGB was mainline. But I don't think there's any official naming conventions. That's just how it worked out

[old raven]

X55 X35S X35H
RGB10 (and tons of Max line) 20 (and pro) 30 50
V90 V10 V20 V90S

Q is kinda forgotten

[stray maple]

Along with the A and J lines. Well, there was a J6, I don't know if one really counts as a line

[glass mural]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Wrwb2OxC7rw?si=4i3d728Gnr_GAnNM

Looks like Powkiddy's just released a few shorts on the V90S

[oblique whale]

It looks like an rg35xxsp with membrane controls

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-box-fight-hit-gif-17241822

[fair bolt]

Why does it need to be so frickin huge 😭

[icy lava]

Is it bigger than the 35xxSP?

[heady belfry]

which makes the omission of audio jack even more annoying, like ffs

why there ALWAYS has to be some really dumb thing

[icy lava]

How big is it?

[heady belfry]

I dont know, bu it looks quite bigger than the old V90

[icy lava]

The video does makes it look huge, but hopefully they have small hands 🙌

That’s probably just wishful thinking 🧐

[umbral scaffold]

Comparison to the 35xxSP

If the V90S has a 3.5" screen

Then it's definitely about the same size as the 35xxSP

We know it's close enough to 640x480 in terms of resolution, because if it were using the Brick screen, the battery icon would be much smaller since its size scales inversely to pixel density

[dapper tendon]

It does look huge! Maybe this one should have been named Brick instead of the Trimui. It does look chunky.

[fair bolt]

I think it's the same size as the 35xxSP. But that was already too big for what it was

[dapper tendon]

It's a little disappointing. I would have liked it to be closer to the original v90 with the size, the headphone jack and volume wheel.

[tired pawn]

Maybe it's this huge so they can also dissipate more heat from the hot a133p?

[dapper tendon]

Probably, and also to accommodate the larger 3.5 inch screen that's in everything now.

[warped island]

I was hoping for 3326 and brick screen tbh

[umbral scaffold]

I'm not sure if a 3326 would actually make good use of that screen

Since you need the power to upscale

[warped island]

higher res = way better for anything non-integer

it doesn't require any signifcant GPU power to display 2d art to a higher res screen

nobody is going to force you to put ps1 at 3x just because the screen res went up

[stray maple]

Isn't the difference between the power in the rk3326 and the chip in this pretty minimal anyway?

[warped island]

yes, except the 3326 has been mainlined and doesn't overheat

and is cheaper

it can't do quite as much psp/n64/dc

but is better for ports since the a133p is missing 32 bit libraries

[stray maple]

That does sound like a lot of downsides for fairly minimal upsides.

[warped island]

I think allwinner is providing very aggressive pricing and/or OEM manufacturing and design support for people to suddenly be flocking to the a133p in droves given the chip frankly sucks

[hard escarp]

iirc the h700 also has no 64bit libraries before. remind me where they got that again?

[warped island]

no clue, a lot of work seems to have been done by anbernic or an anbernic contractor on the h700

because nobody was using that chip for anything before they did

[hard escarp]

maybe powkiddy could do the same?

[warped island]

I'm guessing anbernic secured some type of preferred sourcing or just bought out all the remaining stock for nobody else to be using it

[hidden dune]

Well we know MagicX switched to them because they offered services like Software and PCB manufacturing directly compared to RockChip whose structure is kind of complicated and had MagicX work with a shady contractor deep down the RockChip chain

[hard escarp]

Hmmmm. so Rockchip was dodgy.

[warped island]

I don't think it was rockchip who faked those chips lol

pretty sure it was a reseller doin' a little fraud

[hard escarp]

Yea seems like a third party to me

It curiously got it's way to the R40S and R39S

[hidden dune]

Not dodgy, but not really easy for a company like MagicX to navigate through

[hard escarp]

Oh I remember it was 64bit mali blobs that are missing not libraries.

[umbral scaffold]

Oh I thought you had to still upscale 2D games

[still silo]

interesting
So if I want to play ports on a clamshell between Miyoo flip and rg35xx sp I'm better off with the sp?

[unborn dock]

I would say Miyoo Flip, because it has analog sticks 😄 but RG35xxSP has actually working hinge

[warped island]

isnt miyoo flip 3566?

[still silo]

but also miyoo has quiet buttons and smaller form factor arrrghh

[warped island]

I mean never buy the miyoo flip because it's built like garbage

[still silo]

decisions, decisions

[warped island]

but the 3566 and the h700 both have pretty good port compatibility

[unborn dock]

but you won't play Quake 2 on SP 😄

[still silo]

mhm
I have an r36s but trying to install ports on it without wifi is abysmal

[tiny mist]

Are those two ram chips on lower right corner?

[warped island]

you won't play anything on the miyoo flip when it's broken after 6 weeks

[unborn dock]

Touche, good point, probably RG34xxSP will be the best for @still silo

[still silo]

too smol of a screen
3.5" is already small for me 🫠

[rose knoll]

hey my 2 are still going strong. One's even a pre-v1. Notably... neither are grey

[rose knoll]

personally I think the Flip will be better for PortMaster in the long run

it has a higher ceiling for what it can handle

plus the sticks and better buttons

but yeah I can't excuse the hinge lol

mine are fine, but....

[uneven skiff]

RP Flip 2 Portmaster supremacy

[still silo]

too thicc and bigg

don't want to get attention when i pull out my handheld while taking transport or on work break

[dawn tulip]

well this is interesting #1343806601806479460 message

[calm hare]

is it?

[heady belfry]

automotive variant of the h616 😄

yanked from some obscure chinese site by SiliconExarch

[hard escarp]

So a car stereo 🤣

A133P car stereo pls

[upbeat pulsar]

MinUI car when

[urban imp]

Make waiting in the drive thru easier

[lucid bison]

So is A133P confirmed for this?

[shell igloo]

That's what the images show inside

The V20 was A133P as well.

[coral eagle]

A little late but it came.

[coral eagle]

This is the situation

Allwinner is very easy to get through distribution right now.

Rockchip us just kind of doing not much (at the same price point)

[eager sonnet]

Got to have that supports God of War reference

[coral eagle]

Yeah no mention it's PSP and you have no stick 😂

[eager sonnet]

When I met David Jafee in 2002 at e3 and he showed us the very first early footage of the original God of War game I remember thinking of myself this is going to be something that lasts. And here we are 23 years later and I was right.

[coral eagle]

Yeah. I remember the first time I played it. The game itself was just a normal hack and slash but gods damn.... That was some storytelling.

[frigid tree]

i mean who wouldn’t love an exquisitely carved nostalgic appearance full of age?

[coral eagle]

And then the trailer for gow 3. It just blew me away.

[coral eagle]

Lol I think a better translation of the original would be "retro design with a classic appearance"

Lens kinda sucks

[eager sonnet]

So you have one is what I take from what you wrote and my question for you if you can share is does it physically feel similar in size to the rg35xxsp or is it a bit smaller and less thick

[coral eagle]

I don't have it at the moment. I will shortly and I'll compare the two specifically

Shortly could be a week though. They are going out to others as well.

[frigid tree]

looks way way smaller

[eager sonnet]

I hope so because the thing I liked the least about the rg35xxsp was the thickness of it

[frigid tree]

ah sorry i was confusing this with the upcoming miyoo mini flip (was constantly changing channels).
the v90s looks very close to the 35xxsp in size unfortunately.

[tired pawn]

From the shorts on their yt channel it looks like it's the same size as the 35 sp

https://youtube.com/shorts/rthF1yKuX0U?feature=shared

[keen depot]

Looks so cheap

[karmic trail]

Looks pretty nice imo

[keen depot]

Where are the sticks

[karmic trail]

I've never had a powkiddy though so I'm not sure how their plastic feels

Hopefully not like the miyoo flip

[keen depot]

It will be horrible

[tired pawn]

Yeah from what I've seen online they don't have a good reputation for their build quality on most devices

[karmic trail]

That's a shame, I wish more handhelds used this shade of red

Though I'll probably buy it anyway assuming it's like $50

[stray maple]

V90 was really robust. Basically too light to break, you could throw that thing across the room and it would be fine.

It felt cheap. But has been one of the cheapest handhelds you can buy from the "major" manufacturers for years now.

[tired pawn]

This just seems to be the byproduct of being so light and not really intentional

[hard escarp]

No wifi then 🤔

Doesn’t matter no portmaster either

[coral eagle]

There might be another os coming...

[tired pawn]

Also the battery seems to be a bit smaller than the 34 sp, despite it seeming to be smaller and also having sticks

[bronze radish]

Looks like a happy meal. I want my Powkiddy McFlip with fries please.

[grand oar]

https://tenor.com/view/alla-bruletova-jetcar-bentley-mulsanne-luxury-gif-13483531803126170029

every time they tap the back

i think this

[heady belfry]

no wifi, no 3,5 jack. Meh.

[icy lava]

No wifi, miyoo flip mini has taken my attention.

[heady belfry]

yeah, but at this point you know that one will have shitty hinge

[icy lava]

Could potentially have a V3 or V4 hinge depending on release.

Anbernic will see interest and beat them to the punch. It’s there MO

[lucid bison]

I mean, my somewhat DIY GBC clone with a potato chip has wi-fi

I don't know why PK hates it so much at this point

[icy lava]

Yeah I don’t get it, I don’t get anything without a wifi chip anymore. Easy way of buying less HH’s

[hard escarp]

It’s not called miyoo flop/flap for no reason 🤣

[tired pawn]

Yes, it's just so disappointing compared to the 34xx sp
Like for a smaller size, you get wifi, hdmi, 3.5 jack, bigger battery and sticks (not great sticks, but they are there)

[unborn dock]

What's up with the Powkiddy releasing devices without Wifi and BT

why they hate money so much

[stone valve]

A133 chip it will be a big differnce if muos comes to this, it'll be like the rg35xxsp but soft buttons. (If it's soft that is) if not then doa...

[umbral scaffold]

Has muOS released for any other A133 devices?

[lucid bison]

On the other hand, I think there were maybe couple of times when they rereleased a device with Wi-Fi later

It was their first RK3566 device (don't remember the name) and I think something else

But I mean, I've bought a device with external Wi-Fi before (351MP), it was nasty

You get a tower of power because you need a USB-C to USB converter on top of the dongle

And that converter does get pretty warm (and I've tried 2 or 3)

I dunno, maybe you can buy a straight USB-C wi-fi adapter now though

[rustic mountain]

yes and no, I've seen like 1 direct usb-c one but its a full size setup with a screw on antenna.
Kinda defeats the purpose of it imo

[lucid bison]

Yeah, sure, I meant like one of those realtek things that stick out just a bit out of a regular USB port

But maybe the connector contains some of the circuitry and has nowhere to go with a USB-c connector

[karmic trail]

No wifi, bt, or headphone jack? DOA for me personally

[rustic mountain]

they do have circuitry around the USBA side of the plug yeah, doesnt mean someone couldnt design something equally as small tho

[lucid bison]

Guess handhelds is a unique case of a device modern enough to have USB-C while not having any kind of connectivity lol

So it's a pretty small market to target

[rustic mountain]

still would kill for something like this but for wifi and not just 2.4ghz wireless headphones

[stone valve]

Muos is planned for the trimui devices still in alpha I heard

[rustic mountain]

afaik the alpha is just for the trimUI devices sofar. Not sure about other A133P (Mini28, V20 etc)

but yeah it is in alpha testing

[rose knoll]

Corey's been working on the Mini Zero 28 for quite a while now, should be coming eventually. V20 I'm not sure, I know some other devs in the scene really haven't been impressed by it enough to wanna work on it, not sure about the muOS guys though

[jagged furnace]

this is looking pretty good, no wifi or bluetooth seems like the trend with Powkiddy newer budget devices, if they had made this one with the screen from the V10 it would make it stand out even more tbh but the shell would need to be redesign

[prisma bison]

Like the red or berry color

[night hornet]

Some specs for V90S listed under picture here that was posted by Powkiddy via YouTube. Says 3.5 inch screen.

[boreal whale]

so definintely larger than the og. Dang

[tired pawn]

We have the full specs here

[jagged furnace]

I kinda like it this way tbh, as long as it has soft buttons

[urban imp]

if it has buttons similar to the OG V90, they should be fine

[quartz dove]

og was 2.8”?

[warped island]

3.0

320x240, so really only good for NES lmao

actually that's not fair, that's also a fine res for genesis and neogeo

[urban imp]

I remember gba looking fine on it too

[karmic trail]

No wifi, no audio jack, no Bluetooth, 3.5 inch 480p.
DAMN THIS SHIT ASS

[bright star]

What if $20

[karmic trail]

Ehh

I'd rather save up a little more and buy a better clamshell

I dont really see much reason to get this over the 35xxsp

It doesn't seem much smaller

[stray maple]

Yeah. Powkiddy always claimed it was 3.0", but anyone capable of measuring could see it was 2.8"

[bright star]

Measure it like tvs, 3" class device

[stray maple]

V90 was an amazing device. Still had a strong following 4 years after launch, where most devices are forgotten after 6 months.

But that was due to a lack of 4:3 clamshell devices, and the price point being the best thing between the famiclones and the up to PlayStation devices.

But now there are a lot of 4:3 devices, and stuff like the A30 and R36S are the same price and way more powerful, so it's only really cool if you really want a clamshell on a limited budget, and don't play any 3D games.

This thing....dunno. Much depends on the price.

[quartz dove]

I never got one, I think it had vsync or refresh rate issues which I am sensitive to

[frigid tree]

this!

[cosmic gull]

[karmic trail]

Ig that's the strategy here

[cosmic gull]

The strategy is to subvert your imagination.

[quartz creek]

powkiddy has some weird translations sometimes

[stray maple]

My imagination is ready for subversion.

[dawn tulip]

you will not be disappointed this time

[stray maple]

Honestly, the key part of the V90 appeal was that it was just so damn cheap, so if the v90s also is crazy cheap, that alone makes it a fitting successor.

[bright star]

at least thye realize price is their only way to compete

[frigid tree]

also the size. unfortunately the v90s looks bigger.

[warped island]

yeah cheap + clamshell + good hinge = the beater handheld

[narrow cargo]

Watch Powkiddy be like "$35, US stock"

[warped island]

probably more likely $40 including shipping, $5 off coupon

and then they're just in the same boat as everybody else on whether you get taxed by your government or not

I don't know why any of these handheld companies are wading in to whether their customers pay taxes or not lol

[dawn tulip]

small size is the only variable missing lol

[warped island]

I do wish this was the same size as the OG v90

[dawn tulip]

my 35xxsp fell out of my rotation completely. I should probably let it go

[dreamy basin]

Wish they did the RGB20 Pro screen and specs here. But if it’s $40 landed then a great device for a first handheld or kiddo. I love my Miyoo Flip but I’ll still probably pick one of these up to try.

[grim willow]

if it was, I could overlook the lack of wi-fi. But as it is now, even if it's cheap, you just end up with a worse 35XX SP.

[grim willow]

wouldn't even be great for that due to lack of CFW. A 35XX SP could be gotten for around the same price and it has actual CFW options

[shell igloo]

It's probably going to be the same price as the V20.

[karmic trail]

This could be interesting if there was gammaos on it, but even then android without wifi sounds like a nightmare

[tiny mist]

I'm sure there's an audience waiting for a "modern" budget clamshell with normal rubber membrane buttons, even if this isn't as good as we'd hoped.

[calm hare]

if the price really does subvert our imaginations i think its gonna be good. the original v90 was mostly a gateway device or a device people gave as gifts lol, it's not necessarily for the people already into this hobby enough to be in a discord server

like i gave my friend a 35xx+ 6 months ago and he still hasnt used the wifi or bluetooth

[grim willow]

the issue with that is that devices for newcomers kinda need a good, easy to use cfw

[dreamy basin]

Devices that are interesting to devs create options. 😀

[dreamy basin]

I’ve set up a ton of devices for friends and family… maybe 40? They never use any of this stuff. Just play the games.

[dreamy basin]

I can’t do the 35XXSP because I did not like the buttons or d-pad one bit. The 35XXSP still seems a bit loud but better and now you have a 3:2 screen. Miyoo Flip buttons are perfect! So yeah there will still be those who want a clamshell rubber membrane device IMO.

More options are cool. Even though yeah this missed the mark for me. I do agree there!

[coral eagle]

These are the exact dimensions

[coral eagle]

Just smaller than a 92mm fan in the hands

Or just larger than an 80mm if you want it that way

[dawn tulip]

exactly as thick as 35xxsp

[karmic trail]

26.5 mm 😬

[grim willow]

almost exactly the same size of a 35XXSP

[dawn tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-donatello-thumbs-up-approved-you-got-it-gif-11125081192634857057

[coral eagle]

Half of one mm thinner

[grim willow]

that's like, margin of error tbh

[coral eagle]

Sp is 89x85x27.3

[narrow cargo]

I didn't mind the size of the 35XXSP, I just hate the buttons. They actually hurt my fingers after a bit. Powkiddy buttons don't, so if they use the same buttons they've been using in the last few devices like the RGB30, I'm good with it

[grim willow]

yeah like the other guy was saying. I wish it was a matter of just buttons, but you also give up wi-fi and CFW

Edit: oh, and a headphone jack as well

[narrow cargo]

I only use wifi for Pico8 Splore

[dreamy basin]

Agree!! Miyoo Flip buttons are so dreamy! Have you tried?

[dreamy basin]

Same!

[hard escarp]

It’s $15 🤯

[bright star]

Source? 🐸

[rose knoll]

this would break us lol

the whole scene in shambles

[heady belfry]

that would be sf2000 territory, no way 😄

[bright star]

I would have to buy it just to try it for that price lol

[mossy igloo]

Oh wow look at that. That does indeed subvert my imagination

[stray maple]

It would be the new datafrog for that price

[coral eagle]

I think you should treat $15 as wishful thinking

[stray maple]

Aye. It severely undercuts the OG V90 at that price

[karmic trail]

Honestly if they can just get the price below $40 that would still be a major selling point

[hard escarp]

thats the only price that would subvert my imagination 🤣

[grim willow]

Watch the price that will "subvert our imagination" be the same $40 everyone expected

[warped island]

$40 including shipping is still a lot cheaper than the current starter handhelds from anbernic or miyoo tho

(on par with the already excellently priced rgb10x)

and on par with the current v90 lol

[grim willow]

Doesn't the 35XX SP hit $40 on sales?

[warped island]

42 plus shipping, so 54.

so if powkiddy is 40 including shipping and you can basically always get a $5 off coupon that is 54% more for the anbernic.

(54/35=1.54)

the 35xxSP is actually on sale for that right now as part of anbernic's mothers day sale

[grim willow]

Just checked, the 35XX SP has hit $35 before

[warped island]

including shipping? from who?

[grim willow]

Best prices should be on AliExpress

[grim willow]

Doesn't state the store but it's from Crownpuff's spreadsheet

[warped island]

often I find those are from really sketchy resellers and also will only sell to the USA

anbernic's official resellers on ali are usually exactly the same price as their webstore for me

[grim willow]

He doesn't link sketchy sellers

[warped island]

do you have a link?

[grim willow]

If you're going by Anbernic's site prices then yeah, it really won't go down a lot

[grim willow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1x_PmVHiQNHyw5t05peEDG1DcCKDCvH_UPd3p7yCw4xg/htmlview

[grim willow]

It's on AliExpress that you get the best prices

[warped island]

his link puts it at 44 but also it either won't ship to outside the USA or is no longer available at that price

gives me an error when I add to cart

[grim willow]

It isn't, that was the historical low

[warped island]

cheapest I see is just under 80 CAD, which is 57 usd

[grim willow]

Sorry if I made it seem like it's $35 right now lol

[warped island]

oh that's kinda irrelevant given it's never coming back to that lol

especially if that low was US only

[grim willow]

It could. Just not for the US, maybe

[warped island]

most of the crazy ali deals were US only due to shipping being way cheaper to the USA than to other countries

so those deals were never available outside the USA and now they aren't inside the USA either

[grim willow]

Yeah, but it does reflect on worldwide prices. The SP does go down a lot for me here in Brazil

[burnt valve]

The same happens to me
I can't play platformers for long periods without hurting my fingers, or RPGs! Pressing A too much also hurts :(

[grim willow]

They are usually available worldwide, us-only deals are the exception

[burnt valve]

I prefer the feel of the original V90 for example

[warped island]

imagine how cheap a 40 usd base price v90s will get once it starts getting ali deals though

[grim willow]

I guess it depends.... The 35XX SP gets cheap because a lot of 3rd party sellers have it

[warped island]

the v90 is 40 usd normally and right now I can get it on ali for 31 including shipping which is pretty wild

[grim willow]

It's normally way cheaper than $40 for me

[warped island]

I mean 40 is the no coupon price it's at when it's not on sale via powkiddy's official site

[grim willow]

Maybe things are more expensive in the Canadian AliExpress? Here I can usually find it for around $30

[grim willow]

No coupon or anything

[potent topaz]

there are global coupon codes right now

[heady belfry]

31.16 here in my part of Europe, on Ali

[grim willow]

167 BRL = 29.5 USD

[potent topaz]

you know how you wanted to buy an asus monitor you could go to their website and buy it? it's probably at msrp and who knows what they charge for shipping, but if you went on newegg it might be cheaper already, have free shipping, and woah promo codes work.. oh and a sale is running..

it's like that

[grim willow]

And we really don't get cheap handhelds here

[hard escarp]

Lowest I bought a 35sp is $35sp

[warped island]

some of those historical lows on the crownpuff list are crazy

19 dollar trimui smart, 21 dollar powkiddy v10, 25 dollar rgb10x

22.50 miyoo mini plus!

[hard escarp]

But then again I got 12 505's for $35 each

[warped island]

$23 for the 28xx, one of my personal favourite handhelds

[grim willow]

I believe it. The Smart was really cheap for us here too, not too long ago

[grim willow]

MM+ too. Not as cheap as that, but cheap

[hard escarp]

can't find the tsp at a low price nowadays because the cfw options matured

I remember getting tsp for $35 as well

[grim willow]

The TSP was such an incredible deal a few months ago. Same with the A30. Should've grabbed one, I hate it that I didn't

[hard escarp]

I grabbed 6 Bricks last night because it's $38

from powkiddy tiktok

[grim willow]

Brick is one that unfortunately doesn't really drop in price here. I'm ok, I don't need it. Crossmix isn't even out for it yet. But it's tempting

[hard escarp]

It's got knulli

[urban imp]

and I think MuOS is in the pipeline for it too

[grim willow]

I like Crossmix. Does Knulli support real sleep?

[hard escarp]

what does real sleep mean

if you meant suspend to ram then yes

[grim willow]

On Crossmix and stock you can leave it on sleep for days/weeks with minimal battery loss. It's like a phone

[hard escarp]

They use the same kernel so..

It loses 2-3% in 15hours

but at that point just turn your device off 🤣

That's the realest sleep it'll ever get

[gloomy bane]

Is there any real advantages to this chip over H700?

I already have 35XXSP. So just wondering if it is worth it

[burnt valve]

Slightly

If it supports Vulkan, kinda

The TSP, Trimui Brick and Zero 28 use it, and it runs decently better some PSP games, but the difference isn't incredible

Just slightly

So, nah

[gloomy bane]

Ok thanks for that. I may not rush out the gate to buy this then like I normally do 😅 might wait for reviews.

[hard escarp]

Also no analog sticks

so 34xxsp is an fu from anbernic

[burnt valve]

The 34sp has better screen and sticks to use PSP
But still, not enough to play everything

Enough power

The extra ram is just for more performance over load times and stuff, system performance

But I don't think it will actually improve that much game performance

[stray maple]

$39.99, plus the standard Powkiddy coupon and free worldwide shipping is pretty good, assuming the console quality is fine.

[mint pumice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Wrwb2OxC7rw?si=ktRxkB4MbcZ4dnvL

Grey colourway looks nice at least

[frigid tree]

1. the colors are kinda meh. they don’t pop as much as the og v90.
2. i quite like that muffled thud of the hinge.
3. screen looks alright.
4. im wondering if they will keep the replaceable battery.

[burnt valve]

I had like 5 batteries on the original V90

Infinite energy

My V90 was my console for Gameboy and nes games

I used it for 2 years straight

And the buttons just died and one speaker lol

[potent topaz]

my current fantasy is that this thing ends up being weirdly good, gets half decent "cfw" support, and then they make a smaller 3:2 version with the 720x480 34xx screen 🤤
it will never happen

[stray maple]

That thing was so low powered anyway, basically any power Bank also gave it unlimited energy

[hard escarp]

Apparently there would be two cfw options per jdewitz

[burnt valve]

MinUI

[stray maple]

Pickle OS

https://powkiddy.com/en-uk/products/pre-sale-powkiddy-v90s-handheld-game-console

[gloomy bane]

Code POWKIDDY works

$10 off

If you buy 2 or more

[hard escarp]

oh

[gloomy bane]

If you buy 2 or more. I think its off $50 or above

Works out slightly cheaper if you buy 2 with code

Also wont work if used on account before. So cough new emails

[potent topaz]

same price ratio as buying 1 with the $5 off preorder code though, no?

[gloomy bane]

Nah. Its $5 more expensive using the V90 code as it will only take it off one unit

You can only use codes once per email

So powkiddy works out better if buying 2 etc

Its just a heads up for those who want to buy more than one. You can always just make multiple emails and use v90 code to achieve same thing

Im not buying one myself just yet. But thought i would give heads up

@neat snow heads up to make an affiliate link

[stray maple]

I got a pop up saying Shem from York has bought one.

I wonder who that is

[gloomy bane]

@whole vault has been caught

😂

[whole vault]

You have no proof that this is me

[whole vault]

I hope I was the first

[stray maple]

You were the first pop up, so probably!

[potent topaz]

i was wondering why the plastic is glossy below the buttons. it's a weird choice, a bad one even imo, but now I see that on the transparent black it makes the plastic ..transparent there while it's translucent everywhere else. with the design oriented on see-through plastic, I'm surprised they're only offering one color of it.

maybe planning to put out some more colors at some point to keep sales good, if the device does well enough at the start anyway. or maybe they're just willing to make that sacrifice to the whole mold just to make the one transparent color look kewl

[stray maple]

Also, I just noticed the V90 and V90S are the same price on the Powkiddy website, as the V90S has the $5 code

Not that anyone pays $40 for a v90 with AliExpress around

[icy lava]

It’s right in the super cheap hard to resist area.

But I’ve just cleared out all my HH’s.

[whole vault]

By the way can you guys believe that grey Wii colour way? Insta buy

[hard escarp]

Why not grey beige

[light sparrow]

Grey looks nice, soft buttons makes it very tempting over anbernic. But what OS? Kinda tired of how thick the rg35xx sp is though, so likely to skip

[icy lava]

Could it get muOS?

[quartz creek]

grey wii?

[icy lava]

This confused me also

[whole vault]

Wii-like grey is what I mean

[unborn dock]

I think what is confusing is that Wii was white not grey

[hard escarp]

grey wii is actually dark grey

[gloomy bane]

Shem this feels like the RP3 again 😅 the “not quite white” white. In fairness when i ordered the V20. I ordered the white and it had the “grey” box ticked on the box

[potent topaz]

various devices were planned to get muos and didn't/haven't yet. for instance the brick is good and was/is very popular and muos still isn't quite released for it. it could easily never be planned, get scrapped, or take a very long time. it's a lot of volunteer dev work and to them it probably feels like the market moves faster than they can. they can only support so many things. since the brick and this are both a133/p maybe a lot of the hard work has already been done, but i'm no dev. another thing hurting those odds imo is this device is extremely comparable to the 35xxsp, so I imagine that would make bringing muos to this feel like less of an exciting prospect. In my mind maybe they would try if this thing got very popular. I certainly can't speak for them though. we're so early on this device we don't even have advertisements reviews for it yet

if this thing is decent I would love to see nextui on it. I love minui so much already but I always conclude that I'm too pretentious to play without the exact shader setup I want

[light sparrow]

this is why I use muos with a minui theme hehe

[rare creek]

Powkiddy still not liking my credit card, lol

[shell igloo]

Will this be available on the Ali?

[oblique whale]

are pre-orders live?

[narrow cargo]

Yes, pre-orders are live, shipping on the 31st. Doesn't seem to be in AliX yet

https://powkiddy.com/en-uk/products/pre-sale-powkiddy-v90s-handheld-game-console

[boreal whale]

Links???

[fallow void]

I mean that's not like insanely cheap to blow my dreams subversively or whatever shit. Lol

[rare creek]

it has an A133 tho, for that $39.99 is quite cheap... tho you will be hit with taxes, so it's more like $48 in Europe and Americans get $10 shipping due to the tariffs on top...

so within the ballpark of a good deal on other A133 devices anyway

[fallow void]

I've been lazy in this channel. What does the A133 get me that is actually care about on this platform

[rare creek]

PSP

[high river]

The heat

[rare creek]

I mean in all fairness, it's a solid SoC for low level emulation and we can't do everything with rk3326, can we?

[vale birch]

It’s very close in price to a 35XXSP is my issue.
Ig it’s gonna come down to button feel preference on which one to go for between the V90S and 35XXSP (unsure how the A133 compared to H700)

[rare creek]

A133 and H700 are pretty much on par

[hard escarp]

powkiddy tiktok

[hard escarp]

vulkan

[uneven skiff]

Don't forget the original V90 was about $40 when it came out

Took a while to get to the $25-$30 range

[vale birch]

I’ve seen the 35xxSP sometimes be above $60 as well. It’s not always at $50 like it is rn.
But I think it’s usually on sale for 50 anyways?

[high river]

Currently 35XXSP is on sale for 42$

[vale birch]

Think it’d be nice to see any reviewers that get a V90S make comparisons between it and the 35XXSP due to how similar their specs are

[vale birch]

That’s excellent

[fallow void]

Gone lower than 50 several times

[vale birch]

Is that on Anbernic’s site?

[normal moss]

IMHO, looks like that RG35XX SP is better purchase, unless you're really allergic to clicky buttons.

[vale birch]

Last I looked on Aliexpress, it was a lil above 50

[vale birch]

Do the A133 and H700 have the same exact same firmware options as well?
Could see that being a deciding factor if one gets an OS the other doesn’t

[heady belfry]

Nope

[fallow void]

If anything I feel like the h700 has way more. Thanks to the 80 thousand Anbernic devices

[normal moss]

No, A133p is limited on that front.

H700 has MinUI, muOS, Knulli, and others.

[vale birch]

Sounding like in most cases, you’ll want the 35xxSP then unless the buttons being clicky are a dealbreaker (which is admittedly an understandable reason for some)

[normal moss]

I did the button mod and it's pretty okay.

[fallow void]

Or you buy foam for $2 and just fix em and get a better device

[vale birch]

Ye

[dreamy basin]

Reason why I got rid of my 35XXSP was the buttons. Miyoo Flip are perfect IMO. So I’m one who thinks buttons options for people is nice.

[narrow cargo]

For me, the 35XXSP's pain isn't really from the stiffness, it's from the shape of them. They dig in more. Powkiddy buttons and dpad are much nicer on my fingertips

[normal moss]

I was eyeing Miyoo Flip, but the hinge thing ruined it for me. I am waiting until they fix it.

[narrow cargo]

foam wont fix my issues with it

[dreamy basin]

I have a black unit and no issues. Love it. Play it daily.

[normal moss]

I want the SNES one, and it's the one that has issues. 😦

[dreamy basin]

Yeah it does look nice. V3 will happen I’m sure.

We are on V4 of the Mini remember. 😀

[normal moss]

That is true. We just don't know when Flip V3 would eventually arrive.

[dreamy basin]

Hinge issues are a big bummer! As otherwise the device is so freaking good!

[fallow void]

While true. V1-3 didn't really have any catastrophic failures

[fair bolt]

V1 was a Catastrophic failure lol

V2 tho was a Much larger jump in Greatness lol

[normal moss]

IIRC, V1's screens were falling off.

[worn crow]

?

my V1 mini is totally fine, in fact I prefer the tuning of that screen over the V2 and V4