Retroid Pocket Classic

[crystal walrus]

There’s just something so nostalgic about verticals

[candid jasper]

Especially when they nail the nostalgia colors

[dusty marsh]

Hence why I want a black one 🫠

[merry mango]

I feel like for sure they’re gonna make a black one. I should just cancel

How does one cancel with retroid anyway?

[dusty marsh]

Angry threats. Or email them with your order number and request a cancellation

[merry mango]

So no cancellations allowed….

[nova skiff]

you can cancel

they might drag their feet a bit so just be patient

[dusty marsh]

Never had a problem with ayn for comparison

[merry mango]

If they announce a black one, I’ll get that and a retro lol

The 6 button I can just use the internal memory and just store fighting games/6buttonngames

[unkempt karma]

idk if anyone has made this connection yet but the classic may be a perfect one and done device for some people depending on the chipset performance. handheld for older systems, then plug into the phone tv and use a bluetooth controller for n64, dc, ps1, ps2, gc. anything with an analog stick

[merry mango]

The retro will have everything else

There’s no video out?

[unkempt karma]

usb c video oit

[late rock]

Yeah it doesn't have video out unfortunately

[unkempt karma]

confirmed no usb c video out?

[late rock]

Maybe but I'm leaning towards no

[frank grove]

yea confimred

it has to do with the chip

[unkempt karma]

damn this handheld fucking sucks

[merry mango]

I tried video out with my rg35xx+. Nifty. Then unplugged 5 mins later. Same with rp5

[late rock]

Damn all that praise just gone 😭

[frank grove]

I have no desire to play tetris on my tv

[sage silo]

Someone needs to make a diagonal. Make no one happy

[late rock]

What about monster hunter freedom unite

[unkempt karma]

ive been doing mental gymnastics to justify buying one for a few days and that was what i landed on but if no usb c video out then im out on this thing

[late rock]

Fair enough honestly

[frank grove]

Had to google it, Im not an rpg guy

To each their own

[sage silo]

Could be awkward playing on that screen

[sage silo]

Depends on your definition of "RPG". More action RPG I guess if anything. It's more combat than story.

Live combat, not turn based.

[frank grove]

No doubt, not into dragons or mythology or other things like that

But I know theyre popular

[nova skiff]

alright that had me rolling that feeling when a handheld is one or two steps away from being perfect for you

[merry mango]

Classic gonna be great for vintage porn….?

[late rock]

Ayo

Maybe?

[stone ice]

missing a bush

[sage silo]

Mostly grounded plus fantastical creatures. Some dragons but also like an overgrown chicken or a giant ape/hippo hybrid.

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/codificado-cable-codificado-gif-21697559

[sage silo]

Fun series. Can't see myself playing it on this device for many reasons

[late rock]

Monster hunter freedom unite makes me feel like a caveman in prehistoric times. The atmosphere is so good

[frank grove]

Yea like all that type of stuff isnt my bag, dont know a blanket term for it

[sage silo]

Monster Hunter is kinda unique tbh

[late rock]

It does get fairly fantastical in world and rise tbf

[sage silo]

It could get a genre of its own if anyone was able to effectively copy it. Seems like no one has so far though

Like there's been games that tried but they all flop.

[late rock]

Yeah, though I've heard godeater is pretty alright

[sage silo]

I went back after beating Wilds and I forgot how empty it felt at times.

[unkempt karma]

im glad that some joy came from my pain

[sage silo]

I don't remember the maps well anymore either so I'd I ever decide to really get into freedom Unite again, I'm going to be in the gauntlet for a bit with paintballs.

[merry mango]

Is there a Pokémon mod for monster hunter

[sage silo]

Probably

[merry mango]

There’s gotta be….

[nocturne gazelle]

pretty sure theres got to be by now

[late rock]

Honestly it's not as bad as what people led me to believe. I'm still pretty early on (3 stars) but most of the difficulty is just preparation

[nocturne gazelle]

wilds beta had a bunch of... interesting mods

[sage silo]

It's harder in some ways because of less I frames and slower animations for certain things, especially healing. It makes a lot of combat less safe. And with more resources having to be managed it gives you tons more room to make mistakes in preparation and stuff.

[late rock]

Based on the mhworld nexus mods page I can imagine

[late rock]

Yeah, the combat does feel to be a bit more "turn based" in that sense, you can't really just outright ignore the monsters attacks

[sage silo]

In Wilds, the Palico heals frequently enough and you have enough options that I rarely felt the need to use my own heals. And the pouch is so generous that running out of space like never happened

[late rock]

In Rise I can fly over them with the IG

I'm not complaining though it's fun as hell

[sage silo]

Pre-world, IG had to be a lot more focused because of jump attacks being more committed

I haven't went back to generations or 4U since World so I really don't remember exactly how it feels anymore. I've been mainjng IG since 4U released

[nocturne gazelle]

best mod ive found sofar

[late rock]

Does it have the helicopter move in 4u?

[late rock]

My favorite in world was the master chief mod

[sage silo]

Nope.

That was new to World

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/flashlight-disintegrate-animation-ncs-ncs-artist-gif-6527691708689323852

Probably going to main hammer then once I get to 4u

[nocturne gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/ps4-monster-hunter-hammer-world-gif-12193537

hammer go brrrrrrr

[late rock]

Mhworld hammer is peak

[nocturne gazelle]

nah not seeing much of monster swaps on nexus at all for wilds but I know they exist

[merry mango]

wonder how that game would look in vr

[nocturne gazelle]

not for pokemon but for seen in game models swaps

[unkempt karma]

funny thing is ill still probably buy one cause im vain and like nice shit

[tame raft]

Gonna have to get the game at some point...according to reddit gremlins it runs at max settings at 60fps on steamdeck

[nocturne gazelle]

theres a mod for it pretty sure

[sage silo]

I became more of an aerial glaive user after World

[merry mango]

praydog's REVR

[nocturne gazelle]

yup

[sage silo]

Aerial dual blades in Generations was really cool

[merry mango]

are ytou a pcvr gamer too?

[nocturne gazelle]

cant imagine wilds runs for shit tho

[merry mango]

does it have dlss?

[nocturne gazelle]

its not enough

[late rock]

Barely runs on anything at the moment

Really unfortunate too

[sage silo]

I meet the recommended requirements on their steam and it runs fine for me

[nocturne gazelle]

it runs ok, but vr modded no way

[sage silo]

Oh yeah unmodded

[nocturne gazelle]

you really need 90fps to not enter barfzone

[sage silo]

I find FSR runs better than DLSS for me too.

[nocturne gazelle]

but its a 3rd person so probably less bad

[merry mango]

im doing ff7rebirth at 60-75fps lol

[stone ice]

i mean with asw you can do half

[merry mango]

90 would be nice. just cant find a 5090

[late rock]

Can anyone?

[merry mango]

if i dont find one by june, im giving up on it

[nocturne gazelle]

i can get one for msrp rn ||slightly melted /s||

[merry mango]

if you can rma it, sure

[nocturne gazelle]

dont have 5090 money to spend anyway

might see if they pull out anything intresting when they do a super refresh or see if I can snag a 4090 or something eventually

[dusty marsh]

Claiming this as an end game before it is even out. Top kek, I don't give retroid the benefit given recent events.

[tame raft]

I think someone says every device is an endgame device from the moment it releases, till a new one is announced

[merry mango]

Well it could be an endgame device for someone

[plain flax]

well when you look at how fast this hobby is moving, it makes sense. oled is end game tech tho

[tame raft]

That is a part of it for sure. If you are looking for exactly this then the RP classic is your endgame device.
There is also the hype train effect alot of devices have.

[merry mango]

This is my endgame CPS vertical

[plain flax]

if this can do dreamcast, i dont think id ever need another vertical handheld. the only way it could be better for me is if it was like a 1000nit 120hz oled screen which just isnt going to happen at this aspect ratio

[nocturne gazelle]

My endgame is a fullsized acade cab with hotswappable tops for different systems

ill settle for some handhelds tho

[tame raft]

I am super tempted as well. But also understand my adhd well enough to know I WILL get distracted by another shiny in a few weeks

[merry mango]

I keep forgetting this is an android device

[plain flax]

thats def me, but whats happened is each incremental device i buy just ensures i dont play with the older device. its really hard to play on the miyoo or SP after viewing the brick screen

ive done a device purge before, time to do another one

[tame raft]

I dont tend to accumulate loads of devices, I usually pawn them off either in the marketplace or to friends and coworders because, "hey if I dont have a ton of handhelds littered around I dont have a problem."

[frank grove]

Im hoping for something between the pocket classic and the dmg

Those anbernic verticals are nice but theyre super bulky

[summer marsh]

they aren't in the conversation until they get OLED - IMO of course don't come at me homies

[ebon forum]

I think saying end game without it having oled is kinda dumb

Oled is a big jump

Sure power might be satisfying

And like GBA doesn't get any better with upscaling

[nocturne gazelle]

556V when

just imagine the man made horrors of BIG gameMT E5

[ebon forum]

But screen led can always be upgraded

[summer marsh]

100006V

[ebon forum]

It'll be massive

Tip over in your hand

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-any-haircut-recommendations-low-taper-fade-you-know-what-else-is-massive-gif-3708438262570242561

[nocturne gazelle]

kek ngl gameMT lookin a little chunky already

its got that extra .5" of bezel

[summer marsh]

Feels like anbernic is going to have to make their mid range devices all oled soon - they definitely aren't nearly as appealing even if they are in a slightly lower price bracket than retroid. though the classic shakes things up for them.

definitely interested in seeing what they are working on these days

[ebon forum]

Honestly I was baiting for that but I wasnt expecting it from you

[late rock]

Why's that

[ebon forum]

Maybe this explains the other channel

[late rock]

The onexsugar?

[ebon forum]

No the condom discussion

[late rock]

I didn't bring it up tbf

[ebon forum]

You were a major contributor

Many lines

Much function

[eager rain]

I dunno, the 406 screen isn’t OLED but it has some other strong arguments in its favour like actually being 4:3 and integer scaling basically every 2d system.

I’d love to see it in a next gen budget handheld though rather than in a 407

[merry mango]

oled or bust

[solar nebula]

I feel like they have to do that and use those newer sticks. I was looking at the 406 and couldn’t understand how anyone could seriously consider it at ~$50more than the RP Classic

[gusty socket]

Freedom Wars is amazing imo. It was recently remastered for modern consoles and PC, super worth it

[warm nebula]

Form factor is nicer, particularly on systems that would benefit from the sticks (or a 4:3 display) and given the frequency of aliexpress or their own site's sales, the real world price difference is probably more like $10 for those benefits

Not to mention obvious points such as you can actually buy one now and you are well past any possible batch one issues too. 😄

[sinful imp]

I like big buttons and I can not lie.

Really though a bit sad this is the only way handheld makers outside of SF2000 make bigger buttons.

[dry ice]

I feel like, without analog sticks, the classic is sortof limited to pre-N64 consoles, despite its processor’s presumed ability to handle at least some GameCube.

That intentional choice that I respect a lot seems like the clear answer to “why 406H over classic”

[tame raft]

This may have been answered before, but does anyone know how performant the chip on this is? What the upper limit of what can be emulated will be?

[surreal gyro]

Just guesses. It's never been used before. Brand new.

Ps. Thank you for saying "does anyone know". "Do we know" is the most idiotic way to start a question. 🍻

[distant ledge]

That's just semantics, imo or expressing you see yourself as part of a community, so you use 'we'

[surreal gyro]

It's proper communication vs kids making up stupid ways of saying shit. We implies you'd already know and have no reason to ask. Or that we have a hive mind. If you're asking you aren't part of the "we" that already know.

[lunar pecan]

This may have been answered before, but do we know how performant the chip on this is? What the upper limit of what can be emulated will be?

[surreal gyro]

Was literally asked like 4 entries before yours. 🤣 Can you not see that on your screen

Jesus. Just copy and paste why don't you lol

[dusty marsh]

Most important question of all is when do they plan to release the black six button edition?

[lunar pecan]

bro...

i can't believe you fell for it 😭

bro's so far up his own ass he can't even detect sarcasm
rip

[sour marten]

Rule #1 undefined

Treat everyone with respect. Absolutely no harassment, witch hunting, sexism, racism, or malicious trolling will be tolerated. It goes without saying that there should be no political discussion, this is a handheld gaming server.

[lunar pecan]

LMAO

Sad

[dry ice]

What are the most persuasive guesses so far? I assume “more performant than the RP3+, less performant than the RP4Pro”?

[eager rain]

Basically gpu wise yeah, cpu wise this has two “performance cores” the s4g2
chip this one is based on did not so we need deets there

Those two cores being beefy could get beetle saturn over the finish line

But that’s hopium

[tame raft]

Im probably going to use this as N64 and below, plus some android games so dont need massive power. Wasnt it confirmed to be running android 14?

[novel crane]

Yep

[ebon forum]

You called?

[gusty socket]

One thing this new chip will have an advantage over older ones is battery life. Because it is a 4nm processor, it will be extremely efficient

[dry ice]

Yeah. I’m pretty excited to learn what that actually means in real terms.

[gusty socket]

Same here

[summer marsh]

Need confirmation on its Saturn abilities before stressing about 6 button colour ways imo

[fossil echo]

someone seems to think it might even handle some GC

[brittle tiger]

…It’s a literal new chipset, and the only legit metric we know about in terms of official performance is Qualcomm saying it will be “85% faster CPU and 25% faster GPU” in comparison to a chipset that was never actually used by anyone.

[delicate ermine]

well, the metric is right next to it, given how our speculations kinda got confirmed by Retroid who claimed it would be comparable to an overclocked SD4gen2

Ayaneo Pocket Micro Classic uses Helio G99 which is pretty close to a SD4gen2, so the assumed capabilities in the chart should be not too far off

at worst it will perform only slightly better than that tho

[brittle tiger]

Fair enough, I’m just surprised the people who usually make these lists are already adding the Classic to it purely based on estimates since we don’t even have another device to compare it to.

[tame raft]

Hey, it may have been a slow day in the comparison room

[dusty marsh]

Very sus on the flip 2 performance chart scores.

[summer marsh]

The whole chart is sus af, they rate tons of systems A when it’s anything but

[fossil echo]

Well that whole section of the chart is all unreleased handhelds so it's meant to be speculatory I wouldn't take any of those ratings very seriously

[dusty marsh]

Pocket s and micro are released though 🤔

[fossil echo]

those are the upcoming refreshes

[summer marsh]

I was talking about the released handhelds though too.

A console like n64 is a good example. A lot of handhelds can run a good amount of the library well enough.

Though that’s using inaccurate plugins with lots of graphical issues.

Or putting consoles like RP2S as an A for Saturn is egregious as hell lol

[brittle tiger]

Nah, the Flip 2 at least makes sense for the A tier ratings since it’s based on the RP5, and I haven’t had much issues with the games I’ve tried playing on it besides the games that were already pretty bad on the Odin 2.

Although I do feel they were too generous with Switch, even with that being a C rating.

[fossil echo]

It wouldn't surprise me if it's a bit off there is some disagreement on capabilities if you look at other sites like retro ranker and retro catalog.

[summer marsh]

Yeah also standards are different from person to person.

While I’ll happily game on some budget handhelds I’m more of a purist than a lot of people for what I’d consider ‘great’ emulation quality.

I can understand that the chart might just not be made for me and that’s okay

[fossil echo]

Chart is only as good as their testing method they might not be testing the right games to give the best picture so yeah thankfully we've got our pioneering video reviewers

[sage silo]

It definitely depends on the game, emulator, and features too.

[ebon forum]

I dont even think chart guy is testing

[sage silo]

I found some lag spikes on the RG351P in certain games especially with color correction shaders or rewind enabled. Even in certain games with none of that enabled

It's part of why I upgraded to a RP4P

[nova skiff]

you peeps talking about the handheld spreadsheet? the maintainer is open to making changes if you suggest them

it's just one guy documenting pretty much every retro handheld and handheld pc that came out

[fossil echo]

Honestly I think it's a really great quick reference and I personally don't have any real complaints.

[solar nebula]

That’s a good point. I try to remember people have different purchase metrics as well. In my case, I typically used the dpad more on say, Dreamcast and PSX. So maybe 2/3 of what the classic can play I personally use the pad for, ergo I’m not really factoring sticks into my decision.

[late rock]

Ngl this chart really just makes me wish it had video out more

[fossil echo]

a video out and/or hot take (I know I know) at least one joystick might have been a missed opportuinity here

[late rock]

Oh no it definitely is, or at least a slider

I'm guessing they must have gotten some kind of deal with qualcomm for this chip which is why they went with it

[fossil echo]

If I thought in marketing black magic it does make their combo fip2/classic more appealing too. To not have a joystick on the classic.

[late rock]

The more you buy the more you save

[spice mist]

Hello Jensen

[ebon forum]

ye hes a good guy

might not be testing but that doesnt invalidate the fuck ton of work hes doing

esp having to deal with magicx

what a headache!

i put in suggestions from time to time

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/leatherjacket-gif-5978368

[delicate ermine]

most likely IMO, Qualcomm honestly hasn't really gotten a foot into the door with their "gaming" SoCs, so trying with giving Retroid a good deal may have been the right move

[frank grove]

Ill try gamecube day one, tony hawk pro skater 4 would probably be awesome on this

If it runs of course

[lost salmon]

there will be black colored one?

[tight token]

not that they listed https://www.goretroid.com/products/retroid-pocket-classic

[fossil echo]

Just speculation, hopes, and dreams for that rn

[merry mango]

I have no affinity for the Saturn color scheme. But the 6 button calls for me. Wish there was all black or retro colorway on the 6 button

[rough depot]

Spray paint. Problem solved

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-jet-set-radio-cry-about-it-jet-set-radio-gif-23408252

[tight escarp]

Brick caused me some issues with my other devices too, the screen is just perfect.

But SP has a decent screen and better firmware options.

And my glacier 34xx is really solid, great battery, and the same awesome firmware options.

Brick looks nice, the screen is great, but the plastic they chose for the shell is just awful tbh.

[cold shell]

Not speculation. The black is a prototype unit. Black isn't a colour offered.

[tame raft]

It is a bit weird that they dont have a black option, I wouldnt get a black one personally, but it is one of the default options aside from white

[thick spade]

What color should I get

What would pair best with the GC flip 2?

[summer marsh]

Any word of reviewers getting these into their hands?

The people need to know more about this device!

[tame raft]

I’m a sucker for the teal and Saturn colors

[cold shell]

Historically, reviewers get theirs a week or two before preorders start shipping. Reviewers get production units, and not prototypes.

[cold shell]

I imagine they're just matching the original GBC colours minus grape (since there's atomic purple), and Dandelion (replaced by PKM Yellow)

[thick spade]

I feel like since it’s a GBC imitation I should go for a more outlandish color

Maybe PKM Yellow or Atomic purple

[fossil echo]

We are speculating that it may come in the future?

[frozen bolt]

Late reply but thank you for saying this bro. Yeah I maintain the handhelds spreadsheet, you all should know that I personally do zero testing, all the performance estimates are based on what people say on discord and what Youtubers say in their reviews. If anyone says a performance grade is wrong, I immediately try to fix it. Please try not to take the grades too seriously though, they're only supposed to be super general estimates.

[cold shell]

Eh. Nothing worth time speculating IMHO. Historically, Retroid doesn't introduce more colours post-release with the exception of metal shells.

[fossil echo]

Oooh now we can speculate about a black metal 6 button

[spice mist]

Titanium build with replaceable battery will last for centauries

[ebon forum]

Ooh metal shell

[gloomy lichen]

From me personally your work is appreciated really glad you put that together don't let any haters ever disturb you

[ebon forum]

Perpetual progress!

[solemn sentinel]

I really like the plastic shell the Brick has lol

[late rock]

yeah trimui plastic feels very high quality

[junior fox]

Is this in my hand yet?

No?

Sick

💪

[plain flax]

the brick is a beautiful device for the price

[dusty marsh]

Fact

[frank grove]

For a card for this, can I use exfat, or does it have to be fat32?

[ebon forum]

What do you use for the other androids you have?

[frank grove]

I no longer have any android devices, but I still have a card with some roms setup in fat32. I wanted to put some larger sized roms on it to test the pocket classics power, but some are over 4gb. Is it ok going to exfat?

[ebon forum]

Android is pretty malleable

I think you'll be good with exfat

[frank grove]

I think Ill have to wait anyway for the device, I know when you format a card in android, it puts some folders on it, and my card is android 10, and i think something changed from 11 on

[sage silo]

Exfat is preferable but both should work

[frank grove]

Oh didnt realize it was preferred, feel like I always see fat32 recomennded

[ebon forum]

It puts folders in afterwards

You're good

[sage silo]

Fat32 is an older and more limited format than exfat and has issues like a 4gb limit to file sizes.

[frank grove]

Cool, Ill wipe the card then, thanks yall

Going all out, going to try up to wiiu

D- for switch supposedly, Ill see if I have any low demand ones to try

[ebon forum]

Celeste is a standard

[frank grove]

Already loaded 🫡

Are any of the switch emulators still in development, or should I just use an older build of yuzu?

[late rock]

you could try citron as well, there might be cases where it performs better

[frank grove]

Will try it out, in about a month lol

[thick spade]

Here we go

[dusty marsh]

🤔

[thick spade]

The PKM Yellow is too outrageous for me to resist. It gives me mega dopamine

[merry mango]

too bad theres no yellow lanyard

[thick spade]

Maybe I’ll make one ☝️

[merry mango]

pika pee

[plain flax]

i hate that im so simple. if there was no pkm yellow, i'd get the saturn one. logically, more buttons is more versatility. but pkm yellow color is more nostalgia so it wins

[dusty marsh]

Congrats on the purchase. Weeping there isn't a basic bitch black version 🤣

[high hemlock]

The basic what black version?🤔

[wintry pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/basic-thegoodplace-argument-gif-14723858

[tight escarp]

I hope the Atomic Purple has a similar feel to the crystal rp4pro

[solar nebula]

I wanted a brick so badly but went for the classic instead, namely because I had the smart pro and the buttons and dpad are just too dang small. I figured if the smart pro is too small (got hand cramps like 10 minutes in) then the brick is definitely too small.

Before people say ‘this is a small device too hurr durr’ I have to specify that my hands being close together isn’t the issue—it’s my pinky and thumb being close together. And again, as wonderful as they feel, Trimui buttons are simply too small and too close together.

[dusty marsh]

i said what i said

[ebon forum]

Dpad is stiff too

[golden phoenix]

Does anyone know the dimensions of this device?

nvm, found it, 5.4"x3.5"x1"

chunky boy

[sage silo]

Retroid dpad on a vertical is going to be so nice.

[ebon forum]

xu20 🤔

[merry mango]

im having a hard time deciding if its a good dpad lol. on rp5 the stick always gets in the way so i cant tell if its a good dpad or if its just the stick in the way

[ebon forum]

cant you remove the stick?

[merry mango]

never thought about that

[sage silo]

I've never really understood how the stick gets in the way for people. I'm not saying it doesn't, but the grip required to do so makes no sense to my hands

[thick isle]

if you use it with your thumb rest on the dpad

I usually do that when I play fighting game

[halcyon palm]

If you use your thumb pads rather than the tip for controls it's more noticeable.

[thick isle]

especially when you do ↓ ↘ →

[sage silo]

I pretty much use the middle of my thumbs

Maybe slightly to the side

It's just that my thumbs come in from an angle and not like vertical if that makes sense

[thick isle]

then your palm will need to be away from the console body and lose the grip

I guess a grip will fix that

or swap the stick and dpad in the first place

[sage silo]

Okay I've tried to freeze in place and I think I see it. I'm not pressing at my tip but definitely closer than the middle. I could see how if you pressed buttons closer to the knuckle how that could be an issue.

[thick isle]

its otherwise a good dpad

[merry mango]

i hope so. makes a good case for me to flip my rp5 for the flip2

[novel crane]

Retroid's D-pad is why I kinda wanna either trade in my Odin 2 for an RP5 or wait for the Classic/Mini revision for SNES and below

[distant ledge]

at first I didn't know how to hold the back bumps in my hands but with time they found a way around them somehow 😛

[novel crane]

That and size

[plain flax]

kind of worrying that they keep releasing flip videos but not classic videos

[novel crane]

Well, the Flip is the main device they are trying to sell atm

It was the same with the RP5 and the Mini

So they're probably gonna release Flip 2 videos then Classic videos afterwards

[sage silo]

I wonder which is going to ship first this time

[novel crane]

My bet is the Flip 2

[plain flax]

i get it cause the flip is the more expensive device, but theyre also selling a bundle. would be an effective marketing video showing off the flip, classic, then some mp between the two

hire me retroid

[novel crane]

They're gonna upload RP Classic videos

[sage silo]

They had a bundle for the RP5 and mini but released the mini first

That said, they also announced the mini first and said relatively early on it'd release first

[rocky sedge]

Do we know if the SoC in the Classic will be capable of PS2 emulation? The lack of a joystick is not an issue for me

[wintry pecan]

it is unlikely to run anything but the barest of ps2/gc games

[frank grove]

Where do the letter grades on the spreadsheet come from?

Says B for ps2, but of course no ones tried it

[rocky sedge]

I assume it's an estimate based on the advertised specs since no one has one yet

I forgot about the spreadsheet

[frank grove]

Its such a great resource, and the fact that its constantly updated

[rocky sedge]

So a B rating on that spreadsheet means:

Most games playable at full speed, a few games have lower frame rates but still mostly playable with frameskip

I know it's not meant to be a PS2 handheld but I like pushing devices as far as I can

It will be fun to play with. I wish the review units would ship out so we can see some real world video of it

[frank grove]

I agree, obvi were not buying it as a ps2 device, but it would be pretty cool if some stuff ran

Rather have more power and not need it than need it and not have it

[rocky sedge]

Exactly

[frank grove]

Sold my brick to go towards the pocket classic, but now im really tempted to buy a mm+ for $25

[rocky sedge]

I have a few PS2 consoles and Genesis consoles I need to sell locally to pay for my Classic. I might try selling my Trimui Smart Pro on fb marketplace too

Because I just put the Classic on my credit card 😦

[rocky sedge]

MM+ is only $25 now?? I have one I've been thinking about selling but I might hold onto it if they're that cheap now

[frank grove]

Right now with the ali sale yea

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x_PmVHiQNHyw5t05peEDG1DcCKDCvH_UPd3p7yCw4xg/edit?gid=0#gid=0

$10 more bucks to get one shipped from the US

Damn the brick shipped from the US is 45

Cheaper than from china

[rocky sedge]

I just have to tell myself I don't need another handheld. I need to hold out for the Classic

[frank grove]

For real, I already had a mm+ and sold it

[rocky sedge]

Thinking about buying an Odin 2 in the future as well... Trying to resist that urge

[full vortex]

Retroid give us videooooos

[rocky sedge]

yesss! I want to see it playing some Saturn games

[frank grove]

This hobby is so rough, you look at an entry handheld and say oh, only $10 more bucks and I get a few more of these features

I started with a RG353 and ended up with a steam deck lol

Gettin an rp4+ and an odin 2 on the way

and a 405v

Dont have any of them anymore

[rocky sedge]

See, I started with the Steam Deck because everyone said it was "end game" but then I went on a journey of trying to find the perfect small handheld because the Deck is just too big for me lol

I play with my RP5 all the time. I hope the RP Classic is more comfortable for me

[frank grove]

I went the other way, never thinking Id drop what I did on the deck

[summer marsh]

The blue balls they’re giving us with this should be a war crime

[frank grove]

3 ish weeks to shipping, so maybe video in the next couple of weeks?

[rocky sedge]

Part of me wonders if there will be a delay with the Classic. Seems their videos are focused on the Flip 2 so I think it's going to ship first

[summer marsh]

Hopefully in a week, I’d like to order one

[frank grove]

Can you cancel a preorder? Like order it now, and cancel if you dont like it after the videos start coming out?

[rocky sedge]

yeah, people did that with the Mini and 5

[summer marsh]

They’ll have reviews before April 2nd if they’re smart just incase switch 2 preorders drop lol.

Not sure I can justify both around the same time though I might if I’m feeling cheeky

[rocky sedge]

oh shoot, I forgot about the Switch 2. I promised my kid I'd buy one for him

[rough depot]

It's the big unknown right now. Definitely looking forward to seeing what the launch games are

[summer marsh]

Well I just need to see Saturn performance so I’m happy to wait. 4 vs 6 button lives rent free in my head 😅

[rocky sedge]

according to the spreadsheet, the Classic gets an A for Saturn emulation

[rough depot]

The only doubt is we haven't seen the real world performance of this chip, just Qualcomms marketing material which might vary a bit from reality

[rocky sedge]

I agree. I'm trying to stay optimistic about it. Hopefully we'll all be pleasantly surprised by its performance, and not disapointed.

[summer marsh]

Well so does the RP2S according to that chart and we know that’s not true

[solar nebula]

Lmao, same. Love my Steam Deck but at the same time it really is kind of a jack of all trades, master of none. EmuDeck is neat but janky. Desktop mode is neat but uh, janky.

Basically I wanted it to play pc games, give me a Linux desktop, be portable, and play roms. It sort of does all that, but I do often wonder if I’d be better suited spending a little more on a few dedicated devices.

[late rock]

That's been me with the legion go, having the power to emulate all the games is very nice, but there is something to be said about the convenience of handhelds for emulation only.

Not to mention there's just something charming about smaller handhelds that you can bring anywhere

[thick isle]

I used to use Steam Deck a lot for modern games. But now I am like 100% of time playing retro game.

[high hemlock]

I have been thinking about that recently too, and just decided on selling my Deck. I thought devices like the Steam Deck would be something in between that unifies everything. But in the end, I always go back to my desktop for PC games because of performance and compatibility issues, and I always go back to my other handhelds for retro emulation because the Deck is just too big and heavy for this purpose.

It does everything decently, but doesn't excel at anything.

[eager rain]

honestly where the steam deck and other x86 handhelds shine are when you want to emulate stuff that doesn't emulate as well on arm (like ps2/gc and up, ares n64, etc) and indie/retro pc games

a desktop doesn't run any of that stuff appreciably better than a pc handheld does while burning like 40x as much power (and outputting 40x as much heat in your room) and being tethered to a box

[lunar pecan]

you also can't bring your desktop to the other room 😔

[candid jasper]

Maybe YOU can't...

[solar nebula]

What’s funny is I don’t have a desktop. I’ve typically been a console gamer because my OCD means I spend more time tinkering with PC games than playing them.

So part of the benefit with the deck was that nice UI, no windows to futz with, etc

Honestly I’d consider selling the deck if I had a pc

[warm nebula]

Just a tad bit of hyperbole with that 40x claim, not like a desktop runs flat out if it doesn't need to do so and by being tethered to a box are you talking about a tv/monitor as it is not like that doesn't come with some hefty benefits at the same time.

[warm nebula]

Didn't the bundle ship at the same time as the second release last time they did one with the mini and the rp5, if so there's no real rush for them to need footage beyond the flip 2

[dusty marsh]

This, all damn day

[warm nebula]

Grey buttons on the top row to lean into the megadrive 6 button aesthetic would be nice too

Don't think I'd buy a black 6 button over a 4 button model, but if I opted for a 4 and a 6, it'd definitely be tough not to pick it over the saturn one as I just don't have any significant saturn nostalgia, let alone for the japanese colours

[summer marsh]

I sold my SD OLED recently. I think it’s a fantastic console but just too damn big - I’ll consider a steam deck 2 if it’s considerably more slim.

[thick isle]

looks like some medical device at first sight

[thick spade]

I was considering a steam deck for a while but settled on a gaming laptop and a handheld for emulation

[tight token]

Probably a more powerful combo tbh

[thick isle]

I might buy the Switch 2 on day one. More powerful Switch with backward compatibility sounds promising to me.

[summer marsh]

I'm going to preorder one asap though not happy about the LCD screen rumours. Hope it's mini LED at least if true. I'll just sell it when the inevitable oled upgrade comes 😢

[tight token]

Probably not unfortunately, physics of what they're trying to do won't change if they're keeping that power envelope

[summer marsh]

I wouldn't be so sure of that, there is some solid improvements on the x86 front when it comes to power efficiency, I think we will see these devices slim down over time

[tight token]

Possibly but I wouldn't expect 90s style performance improvements. Depends on how much performance they want to leave on the table with SD2

[summer marsh]

no of course but I don't think valve is going to go for the most powerful soc anyways. I imagine steam deck 2 will be slimmed down a little bit anyways

[frozen bolt]

Dropped the Saturn score for RP2S down to B. my bad that shouldn’t have been A, thanks for pointing it out.

[thick spade]

I really like the concept of the switch. But here’s a few things that made the switch 1 a disappointment for me.

1. The games are just too expensive. Even 3rd party titles are way overpriced.

2. The Bluetooth sucks. Why do I have to angle the joycon a certain way for the console to pick up its signal if I’m sitting on my couch and it’s docked. That’s some cheap garbage bullshit and maybe the biggest reason I barely played mine.

3. It’s just not a good device for handheld and not even a good device as a regular console. It’s underpowered, battery is very mid, and the joycons suck ass. Holding the switch feels bad to me and I feel like I’m applying force so the joycons backwards tilt backwards when they are clipped in

[full vortex]

I like Switch

[thick isle]

Yes. They should at least use a mini LED.

[tame raft]

How long before we start seeing the first flip2's and classics getting into peopls hands?

[thick spade]

Me too. Overall. Just hope the switch 2 improves enough for me

Just please make those fucking joycons work at a reasonable distance from the console

[ebon forum]

just please make those fucking sticks stay in the center

[thick spade]

That too. Honestly they need to be Hall effect. 3rd party makers beating your own controller by a country mile is pathetic

[ebon forum]

im just never buying first party again

the age of madcatz is over

8bitdo is better, stronger, faster

i mean i hate the ergo myself

but other like it fine

[eager rain]

I love my 8bitdo controllers

I have an ultimate 2c, an sn30 pro, an m30, a neogeo cd pad, and a lite (the one with 3 ‘dpads’)

[thick isle]

hall stick should be the baseline today

not to mention they are cheap to produce

[merry mango]

if you make something that lasts, itll bankrupt your company

[solar nebula]

This. Look, I played the fuck out of my switch, but you know what I played? Indies. I didn’t have a PC so I just got on shit like Hollow Knight and Dead Cells. As far as big games go I had the Zeldas (which tbh, I kinda hate them because they don’t feel like Zelda), Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Luigi’s Mansion. I never even bought Mario Odyssey because I’m not paying $60 for a 4 hour game.

And I loathe the joycons. Hate ‘em.

[thick spade]

I love Nintendo but hardware wise they have been extremely disappointing for a long long time. I also think they are losing their charm with there newer titles. Everything feels so clean, lifeless, and sterile. From the interface to other design choices… the fact there’s no themes or music on the main dashboard. Overall just feels like a very barebones and lonely console

Mario Odyssey was my favorite game in the switch. I want to replay it actually. But it was way too easy imo, or too short… idk.

Also even my switch pro controller developed stick drift… like what

[tame raft]

Not me with like a hundred hours in the game.
I have really loved my switch, played so much botw, totk, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 3, MK8, Smash, even beat lego star wars on it like five times and nearly 100% the game on switch. I am really looking forward to the new one. But I do think that if you are comparing the Switch or Switch 2 to other consoles, or a pc you are just going to find reasons to dislike it. Its best to look at it as a way to play Nintendo games first and foremost, thats its whole reason to exist.
That being said all the people who had drift issues was really not a good look for Nintendo at all, I never had drift on any of my joycon, but I seem to have been obscenely lucky in that regard.

[ebon forum]

Damned non hall effects

[misty birch]

Any reason to get the 6GB RAM version if this doesn't have joysticks? Does Saturn need 6GB RAM?

[merry mango]

6gb ram = more power

https://tenor.com/view/nes-nintendo-power-80s-90s-gif-12922936

[thick isle]

color is another reason

[eager rain]

colour, some android apps maybe (saturn definitely does not need or benefit from more ram unless the android rom is bloated and sucks, which I guess is a possibility - a14 = new build), but perhaps most importantly double the internal storage (not bad for $10)

[thick isle]

$10 = 2 screen protectors

[misty birch]

Is the Saturn emulator good now?

[eager rain]

the 'good' saturn emulator is beetle saturn and we have no idea what percentage of the library will play full speed via that emulator on this new chipset yet.

beetle saturn is why I wanted this to have an 865 (also would've given us proper open firmware support...)

[rocky sedge]

More RAM will also make it easier to multitask (YouTube, Spotify, Game FAQs website, etc) while playing games. It sucks on low RAM devices when you try to switch to another application and it has to reload because Android couldn't keep it in memory

[summer marsh]

Thanks for doing this! I’m just a bit salty about that one since people on Reddit (I know 😅) told me RP2S could do Saturn no problem so I bought it and was very disappointed, even in Yaba Sanshiro performance.

[merry mango]

hows saturn on rp5? never tried

but also i dont play saturn games....

[summer marsh]

Saturn needs 4MB ram expansion to play games like Street Fighter Zero 3 and Xmen vs Street Fighter 😛

[merry mango]

why is the font red

[eager rain]

865 is currently the minimum available for good beetle saturn afaict

this is weaker but remains to be seen if that will make it no longer good enough

the gpu being weaker on this shouldn't be terribly relevant for saturn, nor the weaker multi core cpu - but we have no idea what this has for a single core score so far

[nova skiff]

I wanted to see if odin lite owners had a good saturn experience since the performance cores were there, but I haven't seen anyone test anything beyond 2d games on beetle

[summer marsh]

Praying the single core performance on those 2 performance cores makes up for it. Though it may be a long shot

[eager rain]

this has two performance cores that the s4g2 did not have so that's the whole question

[eager rain]

wasn't the lite d900?

[nova skiff]

yup

[merry mango]

did any of the linux handhelds run saturn well?

[eager rain]

I mean, the rp5 can run linux

or steam deck

[nova skiff]

before sd865, nope

[distant widget]

Retroid should just tell us the core architecture and clock speed, similar to what they have done for all their previous devices.
Unless Qualcomm really have some weird embargo on those

[merry mango]

let me clarify. cheap linux only devices

ie. anbernic

[eager rain]

but yeah none of the rockchip stuff ran saturn well. You could probably run some saturn on the OGU/max3pro

3566 is like "2d games via yabasanshiro" territory

[merry mango]

i cant imagine this G1g2 running saturn well then?

[summer marsh]

Nope. Saturn is harder to run than Dreamcast lol.

Though it’s a bit more complicated than that, dc is more gpu heavy

[eager rain]

this is way beefier than a 3566

[merry mango]

more comparing to sd865

if sd865 is the baseline

[eager rain]

the only metric that matters is single core cpu and we don't know how this compares to sd865 on that front yet

those performance cores might be clocked high enough to get us over the finish line

[merry mango]

if it can do saturn, i just see it as a bonus

[eager rain]

I view it as a neccesity for the 6 button version to justify its existence tbh lol

but I'm not getting my hopes up

[merry mango]

for me its CPS1/2/3

but at the same time i havent played any saturn games to know

[eager rain]

if it were sega nomad/genesis coloured or arcade themed I'd agree, but they explicitly made it saturn coloured lol

[summer marsh]

Playing Sega Rally on the 6 button isn’t a bonus, it’s life

[merry mango]

now im wondering how winlator would run on this

model 2 is awesome on rp5

[sage silo]

Aside from the color it's definitely got its uses in some arcade gaming and Genesis. Maybe if you're heavy into shaders in particular with Genesis. And for arcade, some titles take a bit of beef to run, like Killer Instinct.

Even for 3 button games on Genesis/arcade, the top buttons could work well as turbo buttons

[merry mango]

and for neogeo, C=A+B Z=X+Y

how good is namco arcade emulation these days?

is there a dedicated emulator for namco arcade boards or jkust generic in mame?

[novel crane]

Good question

Tbh, I also know there's Atomiswave and Naomi emulation via Flycast too

Which those should run well too since they were working on the T618 np

[unkempt frost]

If we could get some good Model 2 emulation, a lot of gripes about Saturn would probably go away. A lot of Saturn games are just home ports of Model 2 games.

And a decent number of Dreamcast games are Model 3 ports.

I'm on a Model 2 & 3 kick right now, FWIW

[merry mango]

I was finding the model 2 games were more fun

Otherwise I was enjoying VF3 more than vf2

[bright charm]

What spreadsheet ?

[frank grove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1irg60f9qsZOkhp0cwOU7Cy4rJQeyusEUzTNQzhoTYTU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[bright charm]

Thanks !

[frank grove]

Just be careful, it's dangerous

[frank grove]

I cut out a piece of paper to get a size compaison to the brick and its bigger than I wouldve thought, dont think Id consider it pocketable

Not to say it wont fit, but its maybe not something youd want in your pocket

[tame raft]

Pretty similar to the gameboy pocket and rg40xxv right? That’s what I have been assuming at any rate

[frank grove]

The gbc was kind of thick from the battery cover, but clothes back in the 90s were much baggier

[frozen bolt]

it's a total guess, hence the (Estimate) in the performance rating column, but someone said they thought the Snapdragon G1 Gen 2 would be roughly equivalent to a Dimensity 900, so I just copied the letter grades I had written for the D900 in the RP4/Odin Lite and pasted them for the Retroid Pocket Classic. I should've saved the comment where the person said that but I didn't. When reviewers actually get the device in their hands, the letter grades will be updated to be more accurate.

[frank grove]

No it's all good!! figured it would get updated after some hands on testing, but was just curious where the current letters came from

Thanks for the work!

[ebon forum]

Chart guy!

Feel sorry that you have to work with magicx

[frozen bolt]

lol me too bro. I'm hesitant to add their devices until they get a little more concrete in their development

[ebon forum]

At least soon the 4:3 or 3:2 SP will disappear

[frank grove]

Spend way to much time looking at the sheet lol

Kind of having sellers remorse on the brick

And also wanting a miyoo mini +

But should have the pocket classic in hand in like a month

[ebon forum]

I'm kind of having buyers remorse

Trade interests?

You want to have it

[merry mango]

i appreciate it, but i just cant use the damn thing

[ebon forum]

I want to not have it

Let's trade!

[merry mango]

brick for brick? lol

[ebon forum]

It'll fit our situation way better

[frank grove]

What color??

[ebon forum]

You'll be happy with not having it

[merry mango]

i got black, with red leather case

[ebon forum]

I'll be happy with it

[frank grove]

Damn I had the black

[merry mango]

i keep forgetting i have it in my bag that i bring to work

battery mustve been long dead

[frank grove]

Its just so dumb, looking at the mini +, and its at a freat price for $25, but then like, "oh only 20 more bucks and I can get a brick which can play all these extra systems and is better built and better screen"

Its exactly how I ended up with a steam deck from a rg353

[tame raft]

Yeah, I tend to have big pockets anyways so dont mind if its a bit of a chonker, more just thinking that the GB pocket was about how big I assumed it would be in my head

[frank grove]

GB pocket was legit pocketable

[plain flax]

I don't wear baggy pants so I'm hoping it's pocketable. I would like this to be my EDC. It's a hard thing to judge without actually having it in hand. Not every reviewer has the same pants size XD

[eager rain]

Did you ever have a gameboy colour?

I think it’s fairly close in size

[plain flax]

Yes and that was 27 years ago. my pants are considerably bigger now. So yeah i'm think it will be pocketable lol

I consider the brick pocketable enough to not notice

[fossil echo]

I can't .... I can't even remember what color mine was

[plain flax]

This won't be that but I'm hoping it's close

[eager rain]

This is a lot bigger than the brick

[eager rain]

Mine was kiwi

I had a red gameboy pocket though so brick vs classic are in a nostalgia bait competition for me

[plain flax]

One thing that may help is how rounded the back is. When it's a square block in your pocket it feels worse. Like the sp is the one that feels like a brick in my pocket

[eager rain]

This is true. I actually prefer the 34xx in my pocket to the 35xxSP

[plain flax]

Where as something like the 34xx doesn't feel as bad due to it also being rounded

Hah, beat me to it

[eager rain]

I need to set up my 34xx

[plain flax]

i set mine up with muos and only put gba games on it

[eager rain]

This is my plan. Maybe put on some NES/PC engine too

[plain flax]

tbh though, while i like the device a lot, how it feels and looks, the brick screen is so much nicer, i dont ever use it. when i turn them on at the same time to sync my saves im like, "i cant even look at this screen"

[eager rain]

For me the 34xx is to replace my current daily pocket carry, the 28xx

[ebon forum]

Well it depends

On the pants honestly

If you have baggy pants it's hard to tell

But if the pants are thin or tight it's damn easy to tell it's there

[plain flax]

yeah its totally a personal thing, both on how you dress and also your own personal tolerance. too bad we dont have in person stores for this

[eager rain]

I also these days am on team full size gamepad + tablet for home console games (with crt shaders) so my main use for handhelds are gameboy etc

[plain flax]

i thought the SP would be my edc cause its a clamshell, but i hated carrying it around. someone else with baggier pants might be fine with it

my current handhelds. will probably purge some of these on ebay

outside of the nano, the most pocketable for me are the 35xxH and brick

the rgb30 and 34xx are acceptable

[eager rain]

The 35xxH feels so practical but it just bores me to tears. Hate sticks on pocket handhelds too

[thick spade]

As someone who had an SP as a kid. It’s pocketable if you don’t mind a huge bulge

[plain flax]

yeah for the stuff i played on it, i doubt i ever used the sticks

[eager rain]

I think my ideal would be a stickless candybar with the 406 screen tbh

[plain flax]

one of the reasons i find the classic appealing. i wouldve bought an ayaneo dmg if it didnt have a stick

[eager rain]

I’m leery of the new chip cfw/heat/battery wise and wouldn’t trust retroid with preorder money after the mini

But otherwise the classic looks real good to me

[frank grove]

The bump is pretty sizeable looking from the pics

[eager rain]

Partially because I had a kiwi GBC

[frank grove]

I had the clear purple, probably still do somewhere, almost 30 years later

[plain flax]

i didnt have a pikachu gbc, but want one now!

[eager rain]

Though if the new chip can run beetle Saturn classic 6 might be the play

[plain flax]

i also had clear purple

for me, that specific 6 button configuration is only useful on capcom fighters. fighting games are my fav genre, but against people. never play them on these devices. z and c can be bound to l and r without worry for me

[eager rain]

This is how I feel about most games yeah

I love my m30 gamepad for the dpad and aesthetics but I don’t need the 6 buttons (which is why I am looking at the elves 2)

[plain flax]

yeah i have an arc and m30 and find im not too often looking for the 6 face button layout, but do prefer the regular diamond layout for most games i will be playing

[eager rain]

Saturn is abcxyz + LR though, so you need to use l2/r2 on the classic for Saturn if you don’t go classic 6

[plain flax]

im personally ok with that

[crystal walrus]

The grip on AliExpress for the 34xx is gud

I just wish they were printed with plastic that matched better

[sage silo]

Tbh I find 6 button fighter layouts to make more sense with 4 face buttons + triggers because of some harder key combinations to press

This was obviously not a restriction on an actual arcade stick, but for a controller you are quite limited without claw grip

[sinful imp]

This layout on a handheld when?

[sage silo]

No analog sticks

[plain flax]

You mean for the Odin 2?

Oh that thing behind the 34xx isn't a grip

It's this

[crystal walrus]

no I mean if you were interested in a grip for the 34xx the one on AliExpress is good

[crystal walrus]

zamn

[plain flax]

Oh. Nah I'm ok with the comfort on the 34xx

[crystal walrus]

I definitely wasn’t, the grip saved it for me lol

I have really large hands tho

[plain flax]

Id say mine are about average. For pocketable handhelds I'm not playing them for hours straight though. Maybe I would find it uncomfortable if I were

[ebon forum]

Is this real

Gimme

[eager rain]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-reaction-good-gif-13088713

[sage silo]

But if this is the ultimate controller it needs 6 sticks

[tame raft]

Hate to bring up old news, but it looks like this will be between the gbc and rg40xxv size wise. Shorter than either of them, thinner than the 40, but wider than the gbc and I am not sure about the back yet.

[frank grove]

Bout a mm thinner than the gbc

[crystal walrus]

I wish the game boy and gbc were in retrocatalog, i wonder how accurate this is because it looks the same size as the 40xxv

oh wait forgot banana for scale

[inland frost]

two handhelds and a lethal weapon

[eager rain]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-bomb-banana-bananas-explosion-worms-armageddon-gif-4186839153845778807

[wintry pecan]

https://youtu.be/58NOzBoVEz0?si=ngCbdEj5MEJDLYM5

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/polpo-jojo-banana-jjba-gun-gif-13644198

[inland frost]

anyone find it a little strange that the classic is getting a 5000mah battery while the rp mini is stuck with it's 4000? like the mini's battery life is already pretty good, but an 1000mah upgrade on a device without sticks, wow.. i think its cool but man seems a little overkill

unless the chip used is super power hungry, which i doubt

[summer marsh]

Why would anyone complain about a bigger battery lol. Probably just more room with its boxy design

[inland frost]

im not complaining, its great, but with the mini having 4000, along with a more powerful chip, and sticks, idk man its just a little weird

to reiterate again though, im not complaining

[summer marsh]

It’s not weird at all. Probably more room in the shell due to lack of sticks.

4nm SoC and a big battery are going to be crazy good for battery life especially with stuff like snes.

It’s legit going to be a selling point.

[tame raft]

Yeah it is only slightly smaller, and honestly I bet the lack of a stick will make it seem much more pocketable. My 40 is always getting caught on my pockets or whatever.

[crystal walrus]

I’d like to know where people are getting these empty pockets from

Mine are full of crap I ain’t got no room for a handheld

[inland frost]

okay so

i love that its getting a 5000mah battery, lets get that straight

[plain flax]

4 pockets. phone, wallet, keys, handheld

[frank grove]

How does the 40 fit ignoring the stick?

[crystal walrus]

oh ok that’s my bad, my shorts only have two pockets

[frank grove]

Tbh the A30 has been the best true pocket device Ive found, it has a stick and can play n64 and dreamcast

and its very sleek for the size

[inland frost]

what im saying is, with the rp mini being more powerful and with sticks, i feel its kinda sad that the battery is slightly worse despite it being more powerful (and itll have the same screen size soon), its weird because its a less powerful device, but thats not "weird" in the sense of it being wrong, more so weird as in.. "that's sad" weird, or unfortunate

[plain flax]

sounds like you need to invest in a good pair of jean shorts

[summer marsh]

Mini M/Zero 28 reins supreme

[tame raft]

Honestly not too bad. It is noticeable for sure, but if you have a big phone in a case then it’s similar size wise.

[plain flax]

https://tenor.com/view/itsalwayssunny-alwayssunny-charlieday-charlie-kelly-gif-12487952

[summer marsh]

Dude it has sticks and a different shaped shell, get over it lol

Less room in the shell

[inland frost]

get over what exactly? i understand it makes SENSE to have the battery size it has, im just saying its sad that the rp mini doesnt have a 5000mah battery, which it obviously can't but the idea of it not having one is just unfortunate, you dont even know what im talking about

[frank grove]

On paper I though it would, I just sold mine last week

[summer marsh]

Sucks when you get a new device and and don’t feel the magic

[frank grove]

Something about it didnt do it for me, granted its new and custom os havent been made yet for it

[summer marsh]

Yep I still use my Mini M while I wait for MuOS support on z28

[frank grove]

Yea, and I think my overall experince with magicx turned me off to it, just every time I looked at it

But the a30 is really great, especially with spruce

[crystal walrus]

since the classic can play ps2 games I better get a bigger Sd card…

[frank grove]

Game switcher, easy to pick up and play, and small

[summer marsh]

Lmao I can’t stand a30 personally. Though mine broke so I’m salty

[frank grove]

RIP

To each their own

Did you have spruce on it?

[summer marsh]

Yeah but it was early spruce

I’m happy with my mini m/z28 but I heard a30 is way better these days

[frank grove]

Its really great, does pretty much anything youd want, more powerful than a mm+, and smaller

And a stick

[full vortex]

Things dont need a reason to happen in this hobby.. most of it comes down to availability of supplies and mold fit/size

if they could go for a bigger battery that fit in the mini shell, I'm sure they would have

that made sense cost wise

[summer marsh]

Having opened many handhelds the sticks take up a decent amount of space in the shell

[fossil echo]

verticals are cheating as well since they can have some stuff behind the screen

[full vortex]

and some of that space is reserved by the rest of the mini's screen

[inland frost]

makes sense, but of course all of this was mostly wishful imagining, like would it not be cool if the rp mini had a bigger battery? Is it impossible? probably. but imagining it having better battery life than it already does, yeah thats cool

[crystal walrus]

we need new 3ds nubs

[inland frost]

still feel like no one actually understood what i meant

[late rock]

No

[frank grove]

Yall see this thing? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808460663451.html

[fossil echo]

Isn't communicating fun?

[inland frost]

[frank grove]

4000 mah

[summer marsh]

Lmao 🤣

[frank grove]

Stick looks super awkward, but rather have it as an option and not use it

RK3326

[summer marsh]

It would be SO distracting haha

[full vortex]

NSFW please

[inland frost]

hot

[fossil echo]

I get you tho it is wild that the larger handheld has the smaller battery

[summer marsh]

Anyways I’m done with handhelds with crappy sticks. Magicx/Retroid ruined most sticks for me

[rocky sedge]

I ordered one last week... it should be here Thursday or Friday lol

[solar nebula]

I wish someone would just put a modern chip and 3.5” screen in a body exactly like the gbc. All these verticals are shorter and narrower and that’s what cramps my hands. Make these boys big.

[solar nebula]

If it had a 3356 I’d actually probably buy it lol

[cobalt cypress]

Absolutely this. So few vertical handhelds actually have a big enough chin at the bottom to hold onto so they don't become a hand cramp inducing ergonomic nightmare. The RG351V, RG353V, and RG40XX V are the only ones that come to mind as acceptably sized; outside of the comically large RG405V and 406V. There's probably a few Powkiddies that fit the bill as well, though I've never owned a Powkiddy vertical handheld so I couldn't say for sure.

Retroid almost had it with the Classic too, they just needed to make the chin at the bottom one inch taller or so and the ergonomics would have been good.

[sinful forge]

RGB20 Pro

the cyberpunk jay leno of handhelds

[summer marsh]

If the 6 button one plays beetle Saturn I don’t care if it has no chin

https://tenor.com/view/dude-gif-20028651

[main mason]

when can we expect the first reviews?

[tame raft]

I bet you will be able to buy 3d printed grips on Etsy within a month of this sells well

[cobalt cypress]

Eh, I just don't like 3D printed grips. They always felt kinda janky to me. I'd rather just use a handheld with good ergonomics out of the box.

[gloomy lichen]

Gkd mini classic pro?

[tame raft]

For sure, but lots of people will probably feel like you, and be willing to fork over ten bucks for a janky grip.
Lack of chin is definitely a problem with a lot of these handhelds.

[analog thunder]

That gkd stick grip thing would fit nicely with this

This thing

[tame raft]

It would be wild if someone made something like that.
Heck even just a well built chin extension with a big extra battery would be sweet.

[dusty marsh]

I'd gladly take the extra battery over the low stick placement.

[tame raft]

Yeah, not really too big a fan of sticks on something like this given it is supposed to be a gameboy knockoff but I would enjoy a beefier battery all the time.

[analog thunder]

Stick on the 6 button variant would be good for a few saturn games at least

And n64 though yeah it wouldn't be comfortable enough to work amazingly well

[tame raft]

Yeah that is the real issue, whe you put the sticks so low then the device starts being really uncomfortable. The main reason for me to add an add-on like is suggested would be to make it more comfortable to play.

[ebon forum]

Use retro sizer

[frank grove]

They dont have the pocket classic yet

[spice mist]

If only they had DPad as like Sega for Classic 6

[eager rain]

The m30 dpad is such a dream

[rocky sedge]

Is this still available for purchase anywhere? I see the console itself on eBay but I can't find the dock

[summer marsh]

I like my m30, but I love my og model 2 Saturn pads 😌

I need Saturn benchmarks before Switch 2 preorders next week so that I can make a poor financial decision

[merry mango]

just buy both. yolo

[thick spade]

Man I wanna get a switch 2 as well

Is Metroid prime 4 coming out this fall?

[dusty marsh]

Waiting for the switch 2 OLED edition bundle

[rough depot]

They might announce more at the direct tomorrow

And then again at the direct a few days from now lol

[late rock]

That might be my go to handheld once it comes out

[novel crane]

Tbh, Im just gonna trade in my OG switch (or sell it) and get the switch 2

[summer marsh]

Probably smart, I’m hoping at least a mini led screen.

I hate lcd but will preorder one and then sell it when the OLED releases in a few years

[merry mango]

Need a launch switch 2 and not open it until it gets hacked lol

[summer marsh]

Nintendo stuff holds its value. I’ll probably lose like $100 and get a few years of enjoyment out of it

[late rock]

Gotta get that early firmware lol

[novel crane]

OLED would be cool, but im not gonna wait for it if a early exploit comes out and I can take advantage of it

[summer marsh]

I dunno call me basic but I prefer a legit switch.

I had a hacked lite and it was cool but a pain in the ass. Rather just buy games I want to play

[eager rain]

well I can already tell you that the switch 2 will not play saturn games well

[late rock]

I mean it might

[eager rain]

[late rock]

If it is a ps4 pro level console I feel like it would be able to, but I am just speculating here

[eager rain]

it isn't though

[summer marsh]

Hacked switch 1 can surprisingly emulate Saturn somewhat decently by injecting games into that Cotton Saturn tribute emulator.

Not that I’ve done it but it’s cool nonetheless

[eager rain]

it might be a technically on par with ps4 pro level console if you look only at max clocks or whatever but then they're gonna run it at 5 watts.

[late rock]

Well in docked mode I mean

[eager rain]

that would be very funny if nintendo got into the business of having 'docked only' NSO+ games

[summer marsh]

Highly doubt that

[eager rain]

monthly subscription to make your $500 nintendo handheld pretend to be a $100 n100 miniPC

[summer marsh]

Sounds like GameCube is coming to NSO. Though rather just use dolphin lol

[eager rain]

I said it would be very funny, not likely to happen lol

[summer marsh]

lol it would be highly controversial that’s for sure

The entire NSO model sucks. So very grateful to have emulation

Still love my switch tho..yeah Nintendo pisses me off sometimes but they are in their own lane making fun games so will happily preorder a switch 2

[plain flax]

i never play my switch undocked, only on tv and only the first party games as i have a gaming pc and the other 2 consoles. even then, I'm waiting on switch 2 oled. i didnt get a switch oled and I was waiting and hoping switch 2 would be oled, so now i keep waiting

[merry mango]

if i was playing the switch in docked mode, id rather play it on an emulator lol (4k60, mods, etc)

totk looks amazing in 4k60 on an oled tv

[late rock]

something tells me we won't be seeing a switch 2 emulator soon

[ebon forum]

I just gotta buy the games

They're so expensive

Then I'll emulate

6k ssbu runs quite well on an sd8 gen 3

[summer marsh]

Honestly I’ll probably buy switch 2 OLED mod that Taki udon said he’d make if it doesn’t come with OLED lol

Pretty happy with my super5 OLED.

[merry mango]

it'll ship after the retail switch 2 oled comes out

(still waiting for my super 5 mega kit)

[summer marsh]

That sucks. I actually got screwed with the non touch for one game. I bought captain toads treasure tracker and it require touch screen in handheld mode lol

Still glad I didn’t order the mega kit

[merry mango]

i need the touch. id just feel incomplete without it

https://tenor.com/view/touch-fingers-couple-caressing-hands-gif-17120890

[ebon forum]

i never knew the switch had touch

but i dont think i'd be able to handle having a non touch kit

it'd feel impure

i'd go crazy playing on a flawed device

just like how non integer scaling is fundamentally impure

[sullen ridge]

purity is a concept tied to eugenics

love all your devices equally

[summer marsh]

All I wanted was a switch with an actual dpad and an OLED and I got it.

I hate things that use touch, just gotta clean the screen all the time it’s annoying

[ebon forum]

I love my brick because it's pure

[inland frost]

so many reactions and yet no actual reaction

[ebon forum]

What's with the reactions

[warm nebula]

I was in a new controller mood a while ago, bought both it and the neogeo one from them

[summer marsh]

Need reviews soon please, Switch 2 preorders are now officially happening on Tuesday and it's going to be tough to justify both. Unless the 6 button model can run beetle saturn ofc 😎

[dusty marsh]

my crystal ball says clickty-clackty buttons and a botched screen, that will be $100+ please

[late rock]

Agreed, this will all be fixed if they release a trimui brick version

[dusty marsh]

This is the way

[eager rain]

Screen probably won’t be botched this time but the brand new “gaming” chip from Qualcomm could run hot and the fan could sound like an electric toothbrush

[summer marsh]

5000 mah battery isn't for great battery life, it basically required for this new chip 💀

[merry mango]

all this time without new info just degrades everyone's expectations from this classic lmao

[lyric flax]

Eh stuff will be out soon, ppl just impatient

There isn’t anything crazy unexpected from these releases unless they fuck shit up, which I’m hoping they’re taking their time-this-time not to do lol

[thick isle]

I wouldnt expect much. They just uploaded a demo with incorrect description.

[lyric flax]

Saw that, different department but yeh funne. There’s a reason I’m waiting until a month or two after people have it in their hands

[eager rain]

New chip = new firmware so there are a lot of question marks worth waiting for

Any mention of dev units?

[merry mango]

can the classic play switch 2 games?

jk jk

[lyric flax]

Yeah true. I won’t ask much from it, even tho that 6 button might be stupid if it doesn’t run Saturn well

[merry mango]

new metroid game looks nice

just hoping theyre working on a 2d one on the side

[thick isle]

I hope it will replace my 40xxv

[dusty marsh]

team 2D Metroid over here

[merry mango]

for me it for sure will. i never used the stick on the 40xxv

[thick isle]

same. I never use it

[merry mango]

i feel like i could play dread over and over

wish they remadde the entire 2d franchise using the same engine

[dusty marsh]

Speaking my language, buddy

[thick spade]

I like the look of the gba Metroid the most tbh

[merry mango]

before dread came out i was thinking, ew 3d? why not stick with 2d...

but then i played it and i thought it was great

[tight escarp]

When is shipping again?

I wonder if my Atomic Purple has been born yet.

[merry mango]

supposedly mid april?

[tight escarp]

Then shipping will take a while

[sinful forge]

that means with retroid we'll get it after next CNY

i joke, but is it just me that feels like for every release they ship like 10 of them out before CNY, then take a 2 month break for CNY and then after they start really fulfilling orders?

every time

[thick isle]

Good news is..

There is no Easter Holiday in China

And bad news is they seem to have long labour holiday in May

[plain flax]

what is the upload?

[thick isle]

It’s in their YouTube channel

[plain flax]

a new video or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI0pi-TlmaA

[thick isle]

The one for flip 2.

[sage silo]

I wonder if the classic is still possibly in the final design stages and maybe even testing out drivers. Who knows if they even had test chips/boards before the Qualcomm announcement

[merry mango]

true enough. they must be testing the new soc

and adapting their os to it

or i guess their frontend

[covert star]

Love this thing!

[late rock]

I need skins for this stat

[inland frost]

just received my classic and this thing is great!! running botw at full speed!!!

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/vro-vro-cat-cat-im-tweaking-im-tweaking-cat-gif-9452953164378936408

I think trimui needs to get ahold of this screen

[eager rain]

or anbernic

imagine a stickless 40xxV with this

[inland frost]

completely disagree, we need two stick verticals now!!

[frank grove]

One stick like the dmg would be perfect

And whatever that anbernic vertical with one stick is called

Just more pocket friendly

[late rock]

Just make both

[sage silo]

Snack and drink combined into one? Efficient

[heavy wren]

What kinda bullsh**😤😤😤

[ebon forum]

Fuckery department

magicX has the screen but would never oh wait the xu series

[thick spade]

Just got done playing crysis on my retroid classic all black six button!

[thick isle]

Another day without any news. People are starting to have hallucination

[nova skiff]

I'm hallucinating a black 6 button classic right now

[dusty marsh]

they lost my money because of this not being a thing... yet 👀

[ebon forum]

I've been waiting four months for the magicX dual screen I've already been to a ward a few times

[late rock]

V1 will release at Christmas time

[ebon forum]

Fym v1

I'm waiting for the super sp

V3

[late rock]

Almost super sp

Perfection will need some iterations to get there

[ebon forum]

It's the same super sp

But without manufacturer defects

V2 will bringus some new sillies

Damn autocorrect

[late rock]

V1 is for dual screen, v2 is for oled, and v3 is for sd 8 elite

[ebon forum]

Miyoo has corrupted your sense of versions

It's just defects and issues

We ain't finding screens in 3 weeks

SD 8 elite would be a dream though

[late rock]

Miyoo flip v2 was longer than 3 weeks lol

[ebon forum]

We ain't finiding screens in four weeks

[late rock]

It was like 3 months

[lunar pecan]

we ain't finding screens in 3 months

[late rock]

Regardless, if magicx makes 3 versions of the super sp they can dominate every price point

Super sp
Super sp lite ultra
Super sp lite

[ebon forum]

not the super sp then

super sp is peak performance

other than in performance

[inland frost]

okay so

maybe im just stupid

but what is this super sp everybody keeps talking about

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/secret-its-a-secret-simpsons-lenny-gif-20656799

[brittle tiger]

Well, the one Hopium specifically talks about is the unreleased dual screen one that MagicX doesn’t even have a model for since they’re still working on it and it’s on a lower priority than the current single screen SP they’re working on.

[inland frost]

Thanks for that, glad to know now.

[ebon forum]

#1266817458417832110 message

[warm comet]

Retroid can thank me later.

[inland frost]

you couldve added sticks, hell even one stick and you choose 10 BUTTONS.

[delicate ermine]

such a nice mock-up of a black classic and you do 10buttons

[late rock]

The custom mapping possibilities are endless

[warm comet]

Here's my actual attempt at 'fixing' the black classic:

But the possibilities are endless:

[late rock]

Idk the wart at the top is kind of throwing me off. Other than that though it looks good

[inland frost]

this is so fire

[delicate ermine]

would have instantly bought that

[nova skiff]

you know what?

[late rock]

Perfection

[nova skiff]

I'll take it

retroid pocket fightpad

not too concerned about menu button placement as long as it's within thumbs reach and not too close to dpad or face buttons

[delicate ermine]

honestly, with the 6 button layout the way Retroid made it, seems the most reasonable

[warm comet]

One last fix, longer chin.

[simple robin]

If only.

[warm comet]

Wait, I realize now I basically designed the Ayaneo Pocket DMG without the stick.

[simple robin]

and two more buttons

[frank grove]

4 button with one joystick 👀

[dusty marsh]

take my money

[sage silo]

what about double stick, no buttons

[warm comet]

I got bored and closed photoshop

[wintry pecan]

full keyboardd edition

gimme a cute little DOS box

[warm comet]

(don't ask me why bf4 is the screenshot here lol)

[ebon forum]

Approved

Doesn't hold up against 1 though

[dusty marsh]

Id be ok if ayaneo did that or made the stick a slider.

[eager rain]

I keep throwing my credit card at my monitor but it's not going through

[fossil echo]

chat we have to make this a reality somehow

[late rock]

Jarvis, pull up retroid suggestions channel

[fossil echo]

I understand the assignment.... going to borrow this image

[ashen vault]

If I see this on one more server

[wintry pecan]

their suggestions channel is in shambles now

[dusty marsh]

This hits me deep

[wintry pecan]

Suggest away https://discord.com/channels/899605564361953300/899870033331761173

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/good-soldiers-starwars-clone-follow-orders-gif-15758659

[fossil echo]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-now-we-play-the-waiting-game-gif-16327789852622540331

[ebon forum]

I should play kotor

[summer marsh]

Holy shit. This looks so damn good.

[twin shale]

I think the shorter chin looks better tbh

[ebon forum]

Looks better, feels worse

[merry mango]

I like shorter chin, but I appreciate the stereo

[fossil echo]

I'm meh about it all but the dpad looks too small with the longer chin

[summer marsh]

7000mah battery with that extra chin lol

[nova skiff]

don't get banned from retroid server lol

they are unamused

[wintry pecan]

atheon is always unamused tbh

but no i dont post a meme more than every 36 hrs there

[sinful imp]

My vision.

Only reason I care for 6 button is it has some bigger buttons…but 6 button layout sucks for most the non fighting classics.

[late rock]

The metallic red button is a nice touch I have to say

[thick isle]

It looks like Analogue Pocket is the ultimate ideal shape of vertical handheld

The more it looks like an Analogue Pocket the prettier

[solemn sentinel]

I wish more devices took after the GBC lol

I love how the chin on this is curved, as well as how the bottom of the bezel curves parallel to it

[sinful imp]

Reminds me that I wished Gameforce kept going with this vibe

[solemn sentinel]

What kinda sticks are those?

Assuming Switch style

But the caps are different when they usually aren't

[floral current]

Poke yellow or classic 6

[opal harbor]

Jesus just remembered I have three of these in a box somewhere. Christ I need a handheld purge

All rk3326 has to go I think in 2025

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

Any confirmation of reviewers getting tracking for theirs yet?

[tame raft]

Pretty sure we havent heard one way or the other for sure from any of the usual suspects.

[rough depot]

I’m sure flip review units will go out first

[tame raft]

That does seem likely. We have seen pictures of the flip 2 RL, and videos but nothing of the sort from the classic. My guess would be that Retroid is still working on the classic and hopes to have it ready to go the same time as the flip 2 but has run into some hurdles with the new chip.

[rough depot]

I think it will probably ship after the flip, even if you buy the bundle

The RP5 and Mini did the same thing if I remember right

[frank grove]

Its almost 2 weeks until mid april, so hopefully some news soon

[thick isle]

They announced flip 2 like 1 week or 2 ahead of the classic

[cobalt cypress]

Given how insanely successful the RG35XX SP and RG34XX has been for Anbernic I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they go, "Hey, people REALLY like it when we make almost exact copies of old Nintendo handhelds" and end up putting out a new vertical device shaped exactly like a Game Boy Color to compete with the RP Classic. That's the dream at least. 🙏

[analog thunder]

VirtualBoyXX

[tame raft]

Super gameboy xx

Gameboy player xx

[teal hatch]

I'm almost tempted to get one of these to use both as a gaming device and also an android music player with my IEMs and some of my easier to drive headphones. Having android means I could run poweramp

[solemn sentinel]

Where my fleshlight xx

[teal hatch]

If the pocket dmg had a headphone jack I might have been tempted by it, even though I'm super harsh on ayaneo

[ebon forum]

Just make the magicX DS

It'll be a best seller

[floral current]

Just make a retroid pocket 2S 2

[cinder light]

I wouldn't mind a 3s

[analog thunder]

Rah rah super sp?

[ebon forum]

Raaah super SP!!!!!!

[tame raft]

I am thinking along the same lines

[sage silo]

The order site did say they're going to start shipping mid April

[crystal walrus]

Let’s hope

[tame raft]

How funny would it be if Anbernic pulls an Anbernic and releases a clamshell and gbc knockoff running android immediately before retroid begins shipping these

[full vortex]

someone just release something Plz

[floral current]

Seems likely lol

[heavy wren]

I’d cancel and buy so quick 😭

Sad to say but that’s business baby

[brittle tiger]

Wonderful, so I go from having a high chance of getting screwed over with some kind of Day-1 issues to a 100% chance of getting screwed over by early batch issues that will only get fixed in a silent revision while I’m stuck with the bad one, and the literal only way I’d be getting it fixed is if the issues were widespread enough for the whole community to make a stink about it.

If it’s something uncommon like the devices requiring a frankly ridiculous amount of time holding the power button to turn on, I’m shit out of luck.

[thick isle]

me holding my day 1 xxsp

[rancid panther]

I forgot I have an xxsp

[brittle tiger]

No thanks, the Classic is the literal only Retroid device I’m even willing to buy right now without any reviews yet, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to break my self-promise to never buy a non-budget Anbernic device again.

[covert wraith]

If they did that i would buy it instead of the Flip 2. No question

[thick isle]

wide screen is not my cup of tea

[brittle tiger]

I’d advise against it, considering the XXSP also had hinge issues and the only reaction the community had was saying “well, it’s only so-and-so shells, so it’s just bad luck you picked those, ours are fine though” (so you’re not likely to get a “fix” from Anbernic like we got with the Cube when everyone was united in yelling at them).

But hey, it’s your money either way, so as long as you’re smart enough to wait for reviews on that as well, you’ve got just as much of a chance with issues on the Retroid, so I can get saying “why not pick Anbernic”?

[thick isle]

i'd sell my rp5 if I want a flip 2

[covert wraith]

The only advantage they have is avaiability but the building quality it's hit or miss
My 406H for example , the Dpad would scratch against the shell and it wore off now , looks ugly and it turned my off of the device. I have their 406V and enjoy it , i'll never buy a full white device ever again because of that.

On the other hand you have Retroid , they have the most powerful chip but their logistics and trasparency is horrible ( the others are too but know what i mean )

We don't have many options in this market that's why Anbernic drip feed people with minor improvements on every release and Retroid pulls off what they did last month plus " you have no option so just preorder our handheld and suck it waiting for reviews "

[brittle tiger]

Yup, and while I usually focus my “strikes” on whether or not the company handled issues in a proper enough manner, and while Retroid only technically failed 1 time, that one time was bad enough that I’m calling it 2 strikes in a row because wtf.

Meanwhile, Anbernic somehow managed to get 7 strikes from the devices I personally got from them, and I only finally managed to recognize that and say “fuck it, I’m done” at the 7th after they took what should have been them “actually handling it properly” and proceeded to do it in the worst way possible.

So while I refuse to buy a device like the Flip 2 without reviews, Anbernic’s outright number 1 in my shit list for companies I can’t recommend in good faith.

[covert wraith]

It's sad that they started well with the RG350 and then started to release uncooked stuff for the community to finish ( that spoiled them into not taking responsability also ) , releasing the same stuff over and over and when they finally released something a bit more powerful it had bad designs , a bunch of QC issues ...
It doesn't really take much to create something good in this niche does it ?
Get a nostalgia form factor , add a decent chip in there and watch the money flow. Hell , people would even buy the same device in different colors but no , the cringe path is their business strategy.

[novel crane]

It's honestly why I either buy new after a few months of waiting or buy used after the hype has died down

[ebon forum]

Where's magicX on the strike list

[ebon forum]

Decent chip?

Anbernic makes big money off xx slop

[brittle tiger]

Same as Retroid, since to me it takes 3 good decisions unrelated to the strikes to get rid of a strike (since Miyoo already ruined the “only needs 1 good thing” for the others with the MM+ before they then sent out the A30 and the Flip), and while they didn’t handle either issue anywhere near as badly, each chip controversy still has earned 1 strike each.

[ebon forum]

So 2?

[brittle tiger]

Yup.

And Powkiddy’s in its own tier entirely where the only reason they’re not on the same list as Anbernic is because…frankly, I’ve never recommended any Powkiddy devices to any kind of normal person (neither gaming enthusiast nor nostalgic older relative that loved the really old classic stuff these budget devices can emulate fine), they’re just the exact kind of jank that only the people who know what they’re doing and like that exact type of jank should be getting it IMO.

[ebon forum]

Each chip controversy counts for one?

But the retroid mini screen counts for one too?

The scales a bit different

[brittle tiger]

The mini screen counts for 2.

[ebon forum]

Spectacular

[brittle tiger]

I’m focusing on how the company handles it, and I still count the Mini M because of the fact that even though they did the best they could with the circumstances, they still fucked up in trusting the guy that scammed them and getting fooled twice.

[brittle tiger]

To be more specific (and I should note that this is obviously my personal scale on this type of stuff, anyone else can easily just say “fuck Retroid” and/or “fuck Anbernic” and avoid either one or both entirely, or they could even be willing to forgive both for that, I’m not gonna judge or forcibly try to make people boycott either):

It’s because I specifically count the initial handling of the screen situation before the reveal (so the several months of waiting for a solution only for them to finally admit it and try to limit refunds) as 1 strike, and then the actual reveal (one of the stupidest decisions I’ve ever seen any of these companies pull, why the fuck did you fake the screen when people absolutely would’ve accepted the fact that there is no 4:3 option and that the 31:27 was the best you could find) earned another strike.

[ebon forum]

Was it really the same supploer

[brittle tiger]

They directly said it was.

Which was the exact reason why they decided to swap to Allwinner even before they found out it was a 3326 in the Mini M (because the provider who outright scammed them before was now being an asshole about close sourcing the firmware they provided with the chip, even when MagicX actively needs to fix it to make the device work as advertised).

[floral current]

I want buy RP classic

Pokémon color or Saturn color

[brittle tiger]

I ended up pre-ordering the Atomic Purple using PayPal (with the plan being to not accept delays and just ask for a refund if there’s any issues that even I don’t like) just because I was more nostalgic for the first GBC I ever modded than I was interested in hotkeys or the “PSX Colorway using Sakura buttons and the (DMG)Retro colorway”.

[nova skiff]

after all that talk about Retroid's practices...

https://tenor.com/view/why-me-after-all-weve-been-through-woody-gif-12187875

[brittle tiger]

You mean the talks where I literally said repeatedly that I pre-ordered the Classic because, and I quote, “I literally cannot see how they could mess this up, and even then I’m still using PayPal to make sure I don’t get screwed over”?

The handheld I said I was refusing to pre-order until I see reviewers and devs verifying it’s ok was the Flip 2.

[nova skiff]

first I'm hearing it here lol

but I'm just pulling your leg, you can do whatever you want with your money

[brittle tiger]

Ah, then yeah I’m pretty much only preordering it because I can’t even see how they could screw it up in this particular instance, but I wouldn’t be recommending others get it without understanding that they’re taking a risk in getting first batch.

Yeah, I’m not gonna judge anyone who gets the Flip 2 (not even just for the fact I’m getting the Classic and can’t exactly talk) and I definitely don’t think anyone should be forcing people to boycott any handhelds in general, it should be their choice alone on whether they want to buy something or not.

[floral current]

Chill bro haven’t done anything yet lol

[eager rain]

I think you’re being very optimistic to think there’s no way they could screw this up given it’s a completely untested SoC

and a new build of Android for retroid (a14)

[covert wraith]

They're not the best company , they're scummy , they're rude to their costumers , they're not transparent , their Discord is cringe but still they had a Flip console with a Snapdragon