Retroid Pocket Classic

[summer marsh]

give me a break, I have a psp go for that 🙂

[frank grove]

if there were one device that could do it all it would be so nice

less clutter

[fossil echo]

well maybe foldable screens will be the solution

[frank grove]

this was a rough week on the wallet; steam sale, ali sale, and pocket classic at the same time

[fossil echo]

perfect integer scaling

[frank grove]

it seems super capable

[fossil echo]

i have no idea how the contoller layout would work tho

[frank grove]

for which system?

steam deck has these community controller layouts that are pretty cool, they configure for the community

[fossil echo]

well I mean if you had a foldable screen you could just fold to fit whatever system you wanted but idk how you would attach any controls to something that did that

[frank grove]

ohh i gotcha

[summer marsh]

6 vs 4 button decision is killing me

[fossil echo]

just slap a d-pad and some buttons on this and roll it up to whatever screen size suites your needs but I digress getting off topic

[summer marsh]

6 button OLED yoga mat is the DREAM

[junior fox]

CPS3 ain’t shit compared to CPS2

🙂

[summer marsh]

obviously, Street Fighter Alpha 2 is the GOAT

[junior fox]

It’s a great game

I like all the Alpha games a lot, tbh

Probably more than any of the SF3 games

https://tenor.com/view/running-gif-25163042

[summer marsh]

I do as well. don't get me wrong, alpha 3 is an amazing game as well and in some ways better than alpha 2. but alpha 2 is just such a pure fighter and has better vibe and music imo

[junior fox]

Super Turbo is a lot of fun to play with friends too

[craggy torrent]

is that the one w/ MVC 1?

[summer marsh]

yep

[craggy torrent]

I would agree cuz MVC is duh best

[summer marsh]

okay after much deliberation I'm going to wait for reviewers to get their units, says it doesn't ship until mid april anyways.

I will regret the 6 button if it can't run beetle saturn and I'll regret the 4 button if it can.

[dim thorn]

buy and sell for a loss on marketplace like the rest of us

[summer marsh]

Oh trust me I do that too lol

Though it’s not shipping for a month anyways, I can hang tight for a bit

[plain flax]

Are some of the skus limited to the preorder period?

[candid jasper]

If the Classic has a problem with falling apart this image will be helpful to reassemble it.

[sinful forge]

https://tenor.com/view/whew-goldblum-gif-9488217759752037566

[pseudo dove]

Why does it have active cooling when one of the main points they mention in this new chip is the need for none

[halcyon gyro]

sega saturn moment

[delicate ermine]

there only were Retro and Saturn for the 4/64 to begin with

[dusty marsh]

I wrote this handheld off, the Ayaneo pocket dmg, but the more I look at it the more I think it's awesome.

[ebon forum]

There seem to be about 40 pixels hidden away at the side

The market place is great honestly

Pick up stuff that y'all buy for no reason

[tame raft]

Plus usually by the time stuff hits the marketplace you know whether it’s quality or not

[fossil echo]

Nice catch, I thought they had sold out of the 4gb as well but it was never a thing

[pseudo dove]

Hmm may just pre order

[fossil echo]

now I'm thinking why did they even bother with the 4gb

[pseudo dove]

Only thing I’m bothered about is how the 4 face buttons feel/sound

[dusty marsh]

Seems to be an ongoing issue with their handhelds

[gusty socket]

Retroid takes pre orders and makes the devices according to the number of pre orders. The issue you’re having is the 4gb/64 model is only available in two colors: Retro and 6 button

[modest mantle]

Ah. I swear they also popped up as available for other colors too. But it may have just been pat on my phones part. Cause your totally right

[fossil echo]

yeah I could have sworn I saw 4/64 in the colors for sale at one point too

[pseudo dove]

I thought the classic had black bezels but just noticed they are grey

… But on the earlier renders they were black on the teal, berry etc

[distant widget]

Is Qualcomm still stopping people from revealing the details of the chip?
If retroid already working with the classic they should be able to give us the core configuration/architecture and clock speed similar to what they do for their other handhelds.

[novel crane]

They revealed the chip yesterday

G1 gen 2

[distant widget]

I talking about the exact cores/architecture and the clock speed, similar to what they have been doing for all their previous handhelds, above doesn't really test much. Anything from a A73 to the A720 can be considered a performance core.

[novel crane]

I think one more is in upcoming

[pseudo dove]

Think I’ll get the retro colour now

Yeah the pics on the store page now show grey border on all models now though

[fossil echo]

I pulled that from the website just now

lol

it's both black and grey in two different photos

I think the side profile pics just have some like weird light rendering going on. Just the classic and retro appear to have a grey bezel

[merry mango]

they prolly designed it before knowing what exact soc was being put in?

[pseudo dove]

I’ll wait for some retail pics then haha

[pseudo dove]

To be fair it does say fanless when talking about streaming

[sage silo]

Outside of dust considerations, having a fan means you can game for longer without it throttling

[frank grove]

Its a sizeable battery too. And android is supposedly really good with battery to begin with

[scarlet meadow]

Unfortunately it can also mean you might have a annoying fan blasting at times

[sage silo]

You can disable the fan.

[scarlet meadow]

We don't know until we know

[magic rover]

Every Retroid had it, it's a safe assumption.

[sage silo]

Assuming they do what they always have done, you should have control over if you enable the fan or not.

I tend to keep mine on the smart preset and it's really not bothersome

[scarlet meadow]

,I'm sure the fan will be fine with the Classic but you never know until people test them in hand

[full vortex]

It is safer to assume you can disable the fan than not

[rose dove]

If there's one thing you can count on with retroid it's their disabled fans.

[lyric flax]

The fan is nice to have because some people push these things like crazy then go surprised pikachu face when the battery turns into a pillow

[dusty marsh]

can't deal with fan noise, i'll gladly scale things down or play a bit below it's limits than deal with the negatives of holding a loud, hot potato

[full vortex]

If you are actually playing only gbc and 8:7 consoles, the battery on this will last a long time

[ashen haven]

Yeah, it should be pretty great battery life for lower end stuff. This chip in particular is advertised as being really efficient and the battery is pretty big for what this is, but outside of that most Android devices get great battery life on lower end systems.

And I doubt you'd need the fan for those lower end consoles, though I'd assume it won't bother me anyway.

[lyric flax]

Yeah it’s mostly for people who want to do stuff beyond GB

[ebon forum]

I shouldnt have bought a brick

[late rock]

Nah the brick is great

[magic rover]

Well, the odds of a high power stickless vertical happening were astronomically low.

[ebon forum]

I don't like it myself

Linux is annoying

Although I guess I'm made about not having sticks right now

I'll be even more annoyed

[late rock]

Really? I didn't really have any issues with the stock os tbh

[ebon forum]

It's just port stuff

[late rock]

Oh yeah that does suck

I gave up on ship of harkinian at least for the time being

Portmaster was enticing until I realized each port basically has its own unique setup process

[eager rain]

A ton of them are “ready to run” and don’t

You can sort accordingly

[late rock]

Well most of those aren't the ones I want to play tbh

Or never even heard of

I played cave story and that was good though

[solemn sentinel]

Ahh, Cave Story

I've beaten the original, and was curious about the 3DS remake not too long ago

It's fucking horrible!

[ashen haven]

I had wondered about the 3DS version, guess I'll not bother to check it out 😆

[merry mango]

now that the preorders have gone live, the flip2/classic boards are quiet

[craggy torrent]

With the coupons it was just free shipping. $130 not bad & I don't think I would have gotten that deal after a few months so I'm ok with being a Guinea pig

[merry mango]

still getting something

[ebon forum]

Exactly

I cant get doom engines to run

I can't get render96ex to run

[summer marsh]

Bruh I didn’t care for brick either and sold mine but why are you constantly whining about it lmao

[ebon forum]

I'm not in a position to sell

And im just whining about Linux

The brick is still the best option in the price range

[modest mantle]

I like my mini+ more even tho the screen isn't as nice

[sage silo]

I only really see myself using it for gb/gbc and Pico-8 via winlator

The fan may be useful for winlator if it decides to push the chip a bit hard

[modest mantle]

Almost feel like it was a suggestion or requirement from Qualcomm

[sage silo]

At the very least my rp4p and RP5 don't seem to ever have the fan turn audible even in high performance mode on the smart setting as long as I stick to gba and below.

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Fan usually not needed at that point

I imagine it might make some noise in the classic as well

[summer marsh]

mini+ has charm that the brick totally lacks

[sage silo]

Considering how easy the 2d systems are to emulate at this point, I don't believe any modern android capable chip should struggle enough with it to need a fan

Maybe if you go for accurate emulators and shaders but that's a whole other ball game

[full vortex]

The biggest thing for this is just OLED for retro games

At a lower price versus the dmg

The colors are cool too but besides oled gbc screens we haven’t had anything like this yet

[sage silo]

This is honestly a nice upgrade path for someone who has like a trimui brick or miyoo mini or something and wants a bit more power/quality (presuming no issues)

[full vortex]

Yeah

[surreal fable]

64gb on an android device is very limiting. Even 128gb is not that great but it will have to do.

[sage silo]

Of course there's the 406v and Ayaneo Pocket DMG but they're a bit of a different price class and idea range. Especially adding a stick

[full vortex]

If it’s just retro games 64gb more than enough and there’s a micro sd slot

[lunar pecan]

^

[full vortex]

Even on my Odin 2 mini I didn’t take up 64gb lol

[sage silo]

64 or 128gb is fine I'd you use it for the "intended" emulation of older games

[lunar pecan]

or if you just have a selective amount of games you have just enough time for

[sage silo]

The entire library of like gb,gbc,SNES,nes,Genesis, and other non-cd 2d consoles is far less than 64gb

[full vortex]

Even then 64gb curated is still a lot for retro systems

[surreal fable]

Android apks can only go on the local not the sd card.It fills up pretty quickly unless this can't handle much Android at all.

[sage silo]

It can go on SD if you set it up as device storage. Not that I'd recommend that

[full vortex]

If you are buying this to make it an Android games machine I don’t know what to tell you

[sage silo]

I do also wonder how many android games would really work on a 1:1 screen though. I remember reviewers had issues/questions with the pocket DMG

[full vortex]

Some will scale exactly to the screen

[sage silo]

I know the usual is "plug it into a TV" but this one doesn't have video out

[surreal fable]

Emulators and a front end take space and it won't be a full 64gb.Anyway yes this will be for lighter emulation but imo 64gb shouldn't be an option

[summer marsh]

My MinUI cards are all 64gb, have all the good Sega CD games in chd format, a few pc engine cd games and like 30 nice ps1 games as well as roms of every classic system I could want

[ebon forum]

The screen and the premium feel give the brick charm to me

480p is not charming

[plain flax]

^this

[novel crane]

Tbh

The only reason you'd need more than 64gbs is for PS1 and the CD stuff

Which even then, the only one that takes up more than 64gb is PSX

[plain flax]

will this thing play dreamcast?

[novel crane]

It should

[lunar pecan]

definitely

[novel crane]

It stronger than the t618

[lunar pecan]

SPIDER-MAN DREAMCAST RAHHHHHH

[plain flax]

always looking for cannon spike on the go

[thick isle]

I think MM+ has the best dpad and buttons (just my humble opinion)

but the brick is my edc now

[stone ice]

i find the brick buttons and dpad a lot more satisfying

equally as light while giving nice feedback

[thick isle]

it is nice but a little small for my thumb

[hexed dagger]

do we know what the difference is between "G1 Gen2" and "4s gen 2"?

[pseudo dove]

I was playing brick last night and the dpad and buttons are really nice and the screens amazing… but it’s just a little bit too small

Was making me reconsider selling it

But want this

[merry mango]

@summer marsh this is why 6 button

[ebon forum]

Oh ya the brick dpad is a pain

So stiff

[scenic lodge]

I hate the dpad on my brick. It feels so cheap compared to retroid's😅

[wild hollow]

MM+ dpad feels much much harder to press and roll for me than the brick

[plain flax]

i also like the brick dpad

pushing a retroid pad, brick, and mm+ right now, the mm+ one is by far the worst "Feel"

however, thats definitely a personal opinion

[summer marsh]

Haha what is that?

I still haven’t ordered yet, I almost hit purchase on a 6 last night.

[merry mango]

https://myarcade.com/collections/street-fighter-2-champion-edition

[summer marsh]

Never seen something so cool yet shite at the same time 😆

[merry mango]

i had to get this specific arcade skin

first sf2 arcade i played

or at least the one that was at my local 7-11

[steel quail]

they should do street fighter 2 edition of pocket classic

[merry mango]

i think a sticker would do

[frank grove]

Is street fighter turbo for snes good enough, or is the cabinet version the one to plau

[frank grove]

Or can I play the mame version

[ebon forum]

If the miyoo mini is even harder

That sounds painful

[twin comet]

tell me about it...

[junior fox]

What are we thinking the Saturn outlook is on this thing?

[modest mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-fucked-the-simpsons-magic-eight-gif-15834392

J/K. I imagine we'll have no clue until someone gets one

[ashen haven]

The 6 button setup is perfect for Saturn, I'm worried this will be on the edge of good Saturn performance.

Maybe Yaba Sanshiro will be great and Beetle won't? But we need someone to test.

[nova skiff]

do we still think the performance cores are A78? if they are at least that I'm sure saturn will be good

[tepid harbor]

its not

brick is significantly tougher than miyoo mini plus/miyoo mini

for dpad

miyoo mini dpad is great idk what everyone's on about

its got the best face buttons too

trimui brick face buttons are pretty good too

[summer marsh]

The Miyoo vs Brick salt in this thread is real.

I prefer the Miyoo personally but I think anyone reasonable here can agree that they are both great devices. Easy to see why someone would prefer one over the other.

[tepid harbor]

"it doesn't matter uncle ben gpd pixel 2 is better than both"

[summer marsh]

I’m dying to know the answer to this. Currently have some hope these two performance cores will rock it.

Seems weird for Retroid to release this model if it can’t run Saturn well (beetle Saturn, not Yaba)

[ebon forum]

i have to abuse the brick dpad heavily then

[ashen haven]

Yeah, just makes me think about that Anbernic ARC, the other 6 button portable that was not up to Saturn emulation.

[summer marsh]

Yeah that’s anbernic tho haha. Though I admit I may just be coping

[novel crane]

I wish people did some emulation test with the Snapdragon 4 gen 2

Then we could get a baseline of where to set our expectations

[nocturne gazelle]

kinda hard when its only in 3ish budget phones

[novel crane]

Fair

Only videos I found were modern games

[nocturne gazelle]

budget phone videos are hard its 90% random botspam videos

[summer marsh]

My other cope is sd865 is over 5 years old at this point and runs beetle Saturn.

Though hard to say until we know more details

Not sure when they’ll tell us more about the architecture

If those 2 performance cores have nice single core performance it would be great for emulation, not just Saturn but stuff like fast forward

[nocturne gazelle]

also doesnt help that all the phones its in have similarly named but totally different spec'd counterparts

M6pro vs M6pro 5g
Honor 200 vs 200 smart
note 12 vs 12 5g vs 12r

[junior fox]

Fuck

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/virtua-fighter-sega-lau-chan-vf-yu-suzuki-gif-13859372

https://tenor.com/view/daytona-daytona-usa-sega-horse-sega-saturn-gif-5453107918165435426

Come on beetle Saturn

[junior fox]

I don't know what to do

Does Retroid deserve our money?

if so, 4 button or 6?

[summer marsh]

That’s the real question isn’t it

https://tenor.com/view/showing-off-lady-decade-retro-gaming-look-at-these-retro-consoles-look-at-these-gif-25428387

[merry mango]

what games are you planning to play on this?

[junior fox]

wait

play?

[modest mantle]

we don't play games here, we buy handhelds based on what they COULD play

[delicate ermine]

I have like 60 handhelds and played like 4 games on them

[stone ice]

i've only finished like 5 games lol

[plain flax]

this is why im leaning away from the 6 button classic. ill never actually use it. the only thing itd be realistically useable on would be capcom fighters, but while i love fighting games, i like to play against people not the arcade mode

[junior fox]

I'm gonna be for real

[ashen haven]

I still think a 6 button pad is better for Genesis games than a 4 button pad, even if few games used the other 3.

[stone ice]

i think it's pretty pointless, saturn buttons but ps vita dpad

[junior fox]

since I began buying this shit in 2019, I've played Picross 2 more than anything across all of them

[plain flax]

but you do have 6 buttons, in fact, 8 on the 4 button one. Which games specifically need the 6 button layout

[ashen haven]

You can absolutely map the other buttons to triggers and whatnot, but I'd still prefer to play with the face buttons in a layout similar to the original controller.

Certainly not a big deal

[summer marsh]

I’m okay with that, vita dpad slaps too.

[summer marsh]

[junior fox]

A big part of me wants the 6 joint just because it's a change of pace

[modest mantle]

if you already got a bunch of verticals, it makes sense

[junior fox]

but if it can't do Saturn, that would bug me a lot

[summer marsh]

It would be far more criminal than the stupid screen controversy

[junior fox]

.

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/sega-rally-retro-car-gif-2864596321516119850

[eager rain]

no

[warm comet]

No company deserves your money, but if something brings you joy, go for it.

[frank plinth]

Nintendo deserves my money.

35+ years of unrelenting joy, even the Wii U era. I'll buy any non-alarm clock they try to sell me.

[plush onyx]

If Nintendo had their way, they'd put you in jail for buying an emulation handheld

[frank plinth]

And I'd gladly serve my time and buy a Switch 3 on the way out. 🤣

[scenic lodge]

I don't like Nintendo's lawyer levels, but they really are the only company that built a consistent foundation.

I really wish Sony / Microsoft did better with their IPs.

[ebon forum]

It's funny to see people begging for a PC port

[scenic lodge]

Jak & Daxter... Crash... Halo... Rare games... etc.

[ebon forum]

And if they say that Nintendo will make more money I always assume theyeechildren

[scenic lodge]

PC port of what? I missed it

[ebon forum]

Any Nintendo game

[scenic lodge]

Oh yeah

[plain flax]

id want a pc port of every game ever made so i would never have to buy a console again. nintendo is the only one that always says no so theyre the last ones to beg nowadays

[simple robin]

protecting your IP. how dare they

[frank plinth]

They have a ton of focus, even if their big bets don't always pay off.

[ebon forum]

They would be like Xbox if they made ports

Dead

Who's buying a switch over a steam deck if they play the same games

[simple robin]

I like Nintendo IPs. I think should protect them

[plush onyx]

I think it's a trade-off where I found that Sony was innovating game mechanics more with their new IPs in the PS2 to PS3 era. I heavily criticized Nintendo for being extremely formulaic and banking too much on nostalgia starting from Twilight Princess. Unfortunately now, I wouldn't give Sony the edge in pretty much any category when it comes to their IPs

[frank plinth]

I kind of love that their model is still: we make a game, we sell the game, and we will rarely, if ever, discount that game.

Like, I'll never buy a full priced Xbox or PS5 game.

[rare magnet]

When I hear port begging it's almost always someone begging to port [PC game] to the Switch.

[simple robin]

becasue the game is good

[scenic lodge]

The biggest flop nintendo has is the WiiU and that was just massively poor marketing

They just didn't sell it right

Well marketing and software technically.

[rare magnet]

The biggest flops Nintendo had were ... most of their modern consoles. That's why the Switch is a handheld.

[plain flax]

it all depends on who you talk to and their specific situation. i work in games so get lots of friends and family asking me about game stuff, a nintendo guy asked me if he thought monster hunter wilds would be coming to switch XD

[rocky sedge]

Poor marketing is what made me miss out on the Wii U. I thought the gamepad was too much of a gimick but I bought one last year and it's honestly not that bad to me

[frank plinth]

It's great. If all of the amazing games on Wii U didn't get remade/remastered for Switch, I think we'd be talking about it more.

[scenic lodge]

Gamer brain rot is thinking everything can run on a handheld... r/SteamDeck...

[rare magnet]

Given enough time, anything can run on a handheld. But you have to be willing to wait for later handhelds.

[scenic lodge]

I had someone message me "Wilds isn't working on my Steam Deck" The page literally says Unsupported.

[novel crane]

Handhelds are in a good place, but they need more time to cook in the oven

[scenic lodge]

True, I just mean modern

[novel crane]

And for APUs to get better/cheaper

[scenic lodge]

I'm completely fine with being able to play NES to PSX on a handheld. If Kid me had a handheld with EVERY GAME ON IT he'd lose is mind

That realization made me just play games more rather than foaming over buying ANOTHER handheld, and instead selling my old ones.

[novel crane]

Oh, if kid me had an Odin 2 back in the day, I would’ve been set for life

Or hell, a RP3+

[scenic lodge]

I sat down a few years ago and Put a bunch of games on a list I wanted to play across generations including my Steam Library and I would have 1000s of hours of content to play.

I'd put 1000 hours into Kirby Air Ride alone

[plush onyx]

Considering that my PSP lasted me well over a decade as an emulation device, I would definitely agree with that

[scenic lodge]

Monster Hunter Freedom Unite... Megaman... Socom... Katamari... FF7 CC... Tactics...

SO many.

patapon.

[rare magnet]

Persona 3 Portable is good for hundreds of hours.

[novel crane]

Ridge Racer, GoW PSP, Tekken, the PSP had so much good shit

[rare magnet]

Console quality on the go is what they promoted it as. And for what it's worth ... that was pretty much true.

Got a lot of games on there that rivaled "current" consoles. Consider that the "current" console when the PSP came out was the PS2.

[junior fox]

I bought the Retro colorway

[merry mango]

youre just saying that to make me buy a retro too

[summer marsh]

congrats!!

[warm comet]

I went baby!

[merry mango]

wheres yours

[summer marsh]

stuck between a 4 and a 6 button model

[frank grove]

retro brothers 🤝

[merry mango]

i wanna be a brother too....

[frank grove]

You still have that option

[merry mango]

i will gauge the 6 button first i guess

[summer marsh]

just order a 4 button don't be a chump

[merry mango]

i need my weak punch, medium punch, fierce punch, weak kick, medium kick, and fierce kick buttons

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/parappa-the-rapper1-parappa-chop-chop-master-onion-gif-21371032

[merry mango]

youre right. its all in the mind

[summer marsh]

maybe I'll get less confused and order one of these soon

[frank grove]

If youre not going to play a ton of saturn on it just go 4 button

[ebon forum]

Just buy the five button

Worst of both worlds

[summer marsh]

dats what I'm waiting for

[summer marsh]

yeah of course. but we don't know the answer to that until someone gets their grubby hands on one of these

[frank grove]

I mean it has to be able to handle saturn well, right? Why else would retroid make a 6 button

[modest mantle]

Ditto 😆

[summer marsh]

I agree but we won't know until we get confirmation as this is a new SoC

[frank grove]

Fair enough

[ebon forum]

What game is this

I have nothing associated with that hat dog other than

The I thlammed my penith in the car door meme

[junior fox]

https://tenor.com/view/knocked-up-paul-rudd-ah-to-be-young-youthful-getting-old-gif-23575822

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/parappa-the-rapper-2-ptr2-no-i-can't-believe-parappa-the-rapper-gif-8575878783318276695

[heavy wren]

PaRappa tha Rappa

[wild beacon]

tune in in a couple weeks when reviewers start getting their units

nothing much will happen till then

[ebon forum]

cows + political cows

[sinful imp]

Among the creation type category of gaming it’s pretty insane the variety of tools and scope in Media Molecule’s Dreams, sadly we will probably never get anything like it on console again but I think it’s pretty innovative for console.

[high hemlock]

Games like Dreams would have thrived if they had released it on PC as well. It was just unnecessary exclusive pride that killed it.

[ebon forum]

Qualcomm doesn't provide a kernel

What does that mean?

[ashen vault]

At least there will be Linux on the flip

[ashen vault]

No source code
No drivers
No bootloader
No fundamental configuration files

Basically no starting point to build your custom firmware on

Also SM8550 is the 8 Gen 2
while SM8250 is the SD865

[ebon forum]

Ah

What does Qualcomm provide then

Someone said they give more than mediatek

[ashen vault]

Yes for older chipsets

[dusty marsh]

Such a let down

[distant widget]

I thought there was some article saying Qualcomm will put more emphasis on Linux support for their newer/upcoming chips or something. Or is that only their main flagship chip each generation.

[ashen vault]

Maybe for their laptop chips

Actually

The newest one, the 8 Gen 4 or 8 elite might be what you’re talking about

[ebon forum]

8 elite apparently is similar to laptop chips

However

[ashen vault]

their laptop chips are called x plus and x Elite

And their marketing campaign was “snapdragon 8 is now elite”

They really want to market this as an Apple m series competitor where Apple also has chip that they use in both laptops and mobile devis like tablets

[stone ice]

i swear snapdragon has the worst naming scheme

[pseudo dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[stone ice]

i have no idea what anything means

[ashen vault]

Maybe it’ll get better

[ebon forum]

Probably leads to improved power

Though windows remains a curse on society

[merry mango]

As long as it’s better than a H700…..

[dusty marsh]

so, people still interested in this?

[stone ice]

i lost interest after all

ugly and i don't like retroid controls

also i'm european which for retroid pricing means you gotta pay 30-50% more

[dusty marsh]

color choices are limited, i want black, and only one has the six-button controller.... plus, retroid 😥

[late rock]

No solid black colorway is such a fumble

[analog thunder]

Not even a liquid black smdh

[fossil echo]

I hear ya, I'm kinda scratching my head as to why they bothered with the 4/64 varient I feel like that could have been time spent on more color options

[rough depot]

Realistically the 4/64 is probably just different chips that fit in the same spots on the circuit board so I doubt that it cost them much time tbh. And I do think it makes sense if you’re just going to play low end systems on the nice screen and don’t need the extra RAM for anything fancy

The price only being slightly different does make it easy to just bump up in case you do want the extra though, which I think is the real point

If 100 people are convinced to spend an extra 10 bucks that’s $1000

[nocturne gazelle]

it costs them no extra time that stuff is all done by pick and place
but it really depends on their margins bigger flash memory tends to not be similarly priced

definately not $10 difference even in bulk

Id say they're 'losing' more money on the 6/128

*their margins are going to be lower at least

[novel crane]

Tbh, Im still probably gonna pick this up. I've been wanting a strong vertical without sticks for a while, and I actually like Retroid's controls. Shame linux won't be a thing for a while, but Android is still good, and I can just use Beacon as a frontend

[modest mantle]

My only other hesitation would be how much android you utilize outside emulators and whatnot

RAM utilization creep is a thing

[frank grove]

Im going to test alien isolation day 1

[modest mantle]

Hell yeah

But yeah. They won't update Android. Apps will keep updating usually focused on modern devices. Over time they do less optimization for older hardware and lower RAM. And you end up with slower experience

Future proofing a little more for $10 isn't a bad prospect. Even if it just squeezes out one more android update

[modest mantle]

Not sure about this usually what you do is reduce margins on the upgrade, but then raise the price on both the base and upgrade to offset

So the upgrade seems like a loss. But your making more on the base to offset it

Technically your making more on both to offset it

[nocturne gazelle]

I mean unless they're getting insane prices its cents on $10 flash memory chips

[fossil echo]

Well I can get they'd want to make a cheaper option but for only $10 difference does it really still makes sense?

[rough depot]

At volume it probably does still

You have to remember they’re making thousands of these

[modest mantle]

Which is why only 2 skus use lower config

They clearly want everyone to pick the higher config. The margins might be worse on the lower model in all honesty

[nocturne gazelle]

eitherway the 4/64 seems like a waste and theres no way that the $10 upcharge is pure profit

[modest mantle]

Unless they just added $10 to the price of both

But yeah. There's some associated cost

[nocturne gazelle]

yeah that would be in thier margins for sure but no way to really know that

[modest mantle]

Yeah. For sure

Either way. $10 seems like a nobrainer

Cheaper than a McDonald's meal in some cases

[dusty marsh]

Four piece chicken nugget is now $6. Crazy times we live in

[nocturne gazelle]

tetris chicken nugget might be cheaper

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[lyric flax]

Hell yeah

[fossil echo]

Does it come in Kiwi or Atomic Purple?

[merry mango]

it prolly has a h700

[dusty marsh]

What's the battery life?

[frank grove]

I remember back when mcdonalds had 20 for 5 bucks

[wild hollow]

It was $3.99 on the $1 2 3 menu where I live before they got rid of the 1 2 3 menu altogether

[dusty marsh]

Just got BK, $10 later and I'm still hungry. I made a huge mistake.

[warm nebula]

The cheaper model would allow them to have a lower headline price for the entire range of skus

[merry mango]

also having the fan designed into this design allows it to have a more powerful soc down the road

[sinful forge]

fast food has gotten so expensive lately

[late rock]

And then when people actually get to the store, they see the $10 difference, and go "might as well"

[dusty marsh]

it's now considered a delicacy to purchase a value meal. I'll stick to rice and beans

[warm nebula]

It is probably partly why anbernic kept up their rate of releases, the new ones also acted as advertising to the other current models too

[fossil echo]

marketing ploys feel like black magic to me now

[sinful forge]

it's more expensive than some cheaper sit-down restaurants now, crazy

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-mickey-mouse-hungry-stingy-bread-gif-9574980

[dusty marsh]

local sit down eateries are awesome ❤️

[dusty marsh]

that's me getting the floaty bread

[sinful forge]

yeah and taste better

[merry mango]

they just dont make cartoons like they used to

[wild hollow]

Domino pizza is still cheap.
I go to local Mexican restaurants a lot now when I am really hungry

[fossil echo]

got me craving some enchiladas now, gotta have the egg ontop too

[sinful forge]

I think little caesars has kept prices down as well, but there isn't one near where i live

damn some enchiladas sound amazing

[wild hollow]

My local Mexican restaurant has amazing Sinaloa enchiladas

With seafood and everything

[dusty marsh]

cheaper than lil caesars?

[novel crane]

If I want food for a good price, i usually just go to my local chinese place or the Mexican restaurant next door

Get way more food for cheaper

[wild hollow]

Probably not? I've never been to lil caesars. There isn't one nearby.

[dusty marsh]

Interesting. I can get a cheese pizza for under $6

[fossil echo]

excuse me crab, scallops, and fish?

[wild hollow]

Oh yeah this enchilada isn't cheap but it is really good and really large amount

[fossil echo]

kinda cheap considering whats in it

[sinful forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7an6EBy2N0

[wild hollow]

😂 did this conversation all start just from the chicken nugget tetris handheld

[dusty marsh]

i'm not even mad

[sinful forge]

oh and costco hot dogs

can't forget about those

[dusty marsh]

costco hot dog WITH A SODA

$1.50

[sage silo]

One device a month for a year is kinda nuts

And it paid off. That spreading of ideas into many different devices probably helps them a ton with both marketing and research into what sorts of things appeal to people.

[dusty marsh]

RG40XXV still tempts me from time to time

[novel crane]

Me with the cubexx

[sage silo]

Keeping the hardware so similar also meant fairly rapid homebrew development as well, giving people extra reasons to buy one of the devices. Rare that you get a device that has some level of CFW on day 1

[dusty marsh]

RGB30 filled that void, my first handheld so i can't turn my back on it

[sage silo]

I've been looking at square screens but I really want that in a vertical form factor more than horizontal. And especially did not want sticks

[dusty marsh]

powkiddy has the RGB20 Pro

[sage silo]

That one doesn't have a square screen and has sticks.

[dusty marsh]

thought it did, my mistake.

[full vortex]

There is nothing like that besides the analogue pocket

[sage silo]

I think they had a square vertical. 20sx maybe

[pseudo dove]

The rgb20sx does

[full vortex]

And soon the retroid classic

20sx has dual sticks

[sage silo]

Yeah. Annoying lol

[full vortex]

You can do a 3d print mod for it but it looks not good imo

Fpgbc is an option too if you are interested in only gbc and gb

[sage silo]

Pico-8 is my main interest actually

[full vortex]

Ahh yeah not even the classic will give you native pico 8

[sage silo]

Yeah it's unfortunate but winlator tends to perform well enough

[full vortex]

Hopefully it will on this chip

I am getting an fpgbc due to this device lol

[sage silo]

Worst case I do Retroarch and get it that way. Someone also made some sort of "port" but I believe it's just the web version iirc.

[full vortex]

Realized I just really wanna play pokemon crystal and Tetris

[sage silo]

I'm probably going to put on the Pokémon games too. I have them on my 35XXsp but every time I turn it on I'm reminded I could just be playing Gen 3 or something

[novel crane]

I thought about just getting the FPGBC at first, buuut I want my SNES and GBA games

I would play them on my Odin 2, buuuut that's way too much overkill

[full vortex]

Yeah the analogue pocket exists but I figure something else will come along the way for snes and gba… hopefully lol

[novel crane]

It does exist

but money

[full vortex]

Also I think I like the actual gbc shape and controls more

[novel crane]

Like

Actually holding a GBC in hand

It feels oddly comfortable

[full vortex]

Yep

[warm nebula]

Similar approach to the way many cars are built on common platforms, much less work if you are just customising the shell and not reinventing the wheel all the time.

[eager rain]

same

but so far I've been successful at only buying 3 of the 4 stickless h700 handhelds (28xx, 35xxSP, and 34xx - no 35xx+) and zero of the sticked ones (but the cubeXX and the 40xxV are the tempting ones there)

[full vortex]

It just feels like the 40xx v could be soooo much better

[novel crane]

Tbh, the only ones that interested me at this point are the SP, the 34xx, and CubeXX

[full vortex]

They really are holding out on us

[tame raft]

I really like my 40xxv, but it’s been sidelined recently by the 34xx

[eager rain]

yeah 406 screen + no stick and it would be amazing - add vulkan support for slang shaders and it would be my endgame tbh

[full vortex]

Beautiful

[solemn sentinel]

What's up with the 406 screen?

[full vortex]

960x720p versus 640x480

[rugged dune]

Chat I pre-order thr rpclassic but now im kinda having buyers remorse

[ebon forum]

it doesnt integer sscale

you should feel that way

[rugged dune]

Idc about that

Interger scaling at 1080p is pointless to me

[merry mango]

what do you have remorse for

[rugged dune]

With the shipping included it's a bit more then I wanted to pay, and im worried anbernic is going to use this same exact screen and make a gbc clone the way the rg34xx is a gba clone, but for cheaper

[ebon forum]

magicx will

but horizontal

[merry mango]

you still have time to cancel

[ebon forum]

oh thats the rp mini

nvm

[astral holly]

i buy retroid and ayn stuff because build quality honestly

[rugged dune]

U can cancel and get a full refund?

[merry mango]

thats what people on here told me......

[ebon forum]

the bezels on the rp mini are of such quality!

[astral holly]

regardless of the screen issue that thing is solid

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-snake-big-boss-gif-12248663

[ebon forum]

the screen issue is nearly invisible

[merry mango]

so youre saying its not the real deal....

[rugged dune]

So chat do u think this is a sensible thing to be expecting to be released?

[novel crane]

I see them using it for their higher end stuff before anything below the price of this for a while

[merry mango]

theres always something around the corner. how many corners youre willing to wait is up to you

[novel crane]

A long while

[rugged dune]

Yeah usually retriod is pretty reasonably priced

I mean there's no leaks that anbernic is working on another clone but

The rg34xx sold so well I have to assume it's in the works

[astral holly]

honestly they should update the arc next

[rugged dune]

Idk rly, Maybe it doesn't make sense to expect anbernic to use this screen anytime soon

[merry mango]

at the same time, what soc would you be expecting them to use?

[rugged dune]

Hmm

Would it be silly to expect the xx soc

Or something similar

[merry mango]

the h700?

[rugged dune]

Given that it's OLED they probably would use the most expensive soc

[astral holly]

the 39xx

[merry mango]

39xxsp

[astral holly]

that would be giant

[rugged dune]

So how does everyone else feel? Do you think the classic is a fair price?

[astral holly]

ye i do

[rugged dune]

Who else pre ordered it

[astral holly]

still deciding honestly

[merry mango]

me

[rugged dune]

Woag

[merry mango]

ive been waiting a long time for it

basically waiting a long time for a vertical oled this size

....that isnt ayaneo price

been asking for a rg35xxv+ oled since i bought it lol

[plain flax]

im like 75% on preordering it

[astral holly]

i dont know if the 6button is worth it

[merry mango]

6 button is perfect for me

[plain flax]

i really like the brick as my edc, and while this is bigger, it has oled which is a big upgrade. plus i personally greatly prefer android to linux (weird i know)

[merry mango]

i appreciate the brick (and how it has stereo sound), but its just too small fo rme

[rugged dune]

I opted out of six button only cause I expect to focus mostly on gbc and snes

[plain flax]

was debating 6 button vs pkm yellow, but realize how little i use my Arc. I thought i'd use it a lot for that layout, but I never do

[full vortex]

It is the risk associated with buying things in tech. If you do not want something now, cancel. If you have the money to spare, enjoy it

[rugged dune]

Bleh wish I had crystal ball

[full vortex]

Even if anbernic used this screen I doubt it would be that much cheaper in price

[rugged dune]

Yeah given that it's oled i think ur right

[ebon forum]

borrow mine or bennie's

[merry mango]

i think the oled screen itself is $30?

i mean buying it as a spare part

[plain flax]

but because its small you can 1 hand rpgs in line

[rugged dune]

if anbernic uses this screen plus clones the gcb shell... Holy moly I immediately would want that over the retriod

[merry mango]

you can use the other hand to...... go shopping?

[rugged dune]

I actually don't know about the elemental star

[plain flax]

time to play golden sun then!

[rugged dune]

OH SHOOT

That's why it looks like Mario&Luigi rpg

[full vortex]

[analog thunder]

It looks like the Mario sports games on gba, those games were made by the same devs lol

I haven't played much of Golden Sun but I really love the goofy little emoji-like faces in speech bubbles that it uses to convey character emotion, they're so charming

[eager rain]

my preferred way to play gameboy games is with a shader that's integer scaling mandatory and also requires vulkan (it's a slang shader) - so I need a handheld that both integer scales gameboy well and also supports vulkan - right now the obvious pick is the 406v

[plain flax]

hadnt played it since it came out. on this replay in surprised by how well it holds up

[ebon forum]

🤨

i see we have atari emulators

[merry mango]

how long does it take you to shop for groceries?

[plain flax]

i dunno, however long it takes lol. why?

[merry mango]

never tried multitasking a jrpg and grocery shopping at the same time lol

[plain flax]

i said in line, and theres many lines to wait in in life -_-

[merry mango]

oh missed that part

[rugged dune]

There are many lines to wait in, in life - Lao Tzu

[eager rain]

I like one hand rpg handheld life because it lets you eat and play a game at the same time at lunch

[merry mango]

need a handheld with back buttons lol

[eager rain]

any vertical with l1 and l2 = perfect for any 2 button system like gameboy or NES

just map l1 and l2 to B and A

[merry mango]

true

[summer marsh]

Eat….sure…. 🙈

[eager rain]

I mean, what do you do in the employee breakroom at noon on a tuesday

[dusty marsh]

Is "eat" what the kids are calling it now?

[candid jasper]

Eating is a 2+ player game I though

[merry mango]

nah. eating for two is a 1 player game

[ebon forum]

Oh god no

[late rock]

I'm still holding out for a possible black version

[junior fox]

4 button, but preordering from any of these companies is for dummies for real

So multiple choice, please

[modest mantle]

You can recognize the dumb and still pre-order

If it was a little cheaper I probably would have 😆

[summer marsh]

Of course but I didn't want to leave people who didn't order one out of the poll. Why not let them enjoy a sense of superiority for not preordering?

For the record I only haven't ordered one because I still can't decide between 4 and 6 button model 🫠

[modest mantle]

Yeah. It still tempts me

[summer marsh]

you have a dmg coming haha. it's your money do what you want but this isn't a good buy in your case IMO of course

[modest mantle]

Yeah..I mean I know id resell it instantly. Retroid just be tempting

[summer marsh]

classic 6 is the only remotely good excuse 😉

[modest mantle]

Plus how can I grab a pitchfork at flaws if I don't own one

[novel crane]

Tbh

Im really leaning to the berry

[summer marsh]

it looks nice for sure

[novel crane]

but 6 button tho

[summer marsh]

glad I'm not the only one 😢

[fossil echo]

I feel your pain

[modest mantle]

Yeah. I get limiting the skus. but more options would have been cool for the 6

[fossil echo]

I can't do it! don't make me!

[nova skiff]

I'm tempted to wait for the classic+ with a black saturn color option and analog stick

[summer marsh]

Make me please, I've given up enough mental space to this decision 😅

[summer marsh]

you had me until the analog

[nova skiff]

after thinking carefully, I wouldn't buy something like this to exclusively play stickless systems, that's what I have a brick for

[summer marsh]

that's pretty fair. Though this screen will be 10x better than the brick

brick screen is well overrated

[surreal gyro]

But...OLED! 😅

[summer marsh]

lots of backlight bleed...it's fine but not amazing

[fossil echo]

I still think of the brick as a micro and not comparable to this

[surreal gyro]

I had 0 light bleed on my brick 🤷🏻‍♂️

[echo torrent]

Yeah I don't get it. They needed to figure out how to include a joystick. Would've put dreamcast, psp and n64 on the menu

[summer marsh]

Soul Calibur and DoA2 are definitely on the menu 😎

[echo torrent]

yeah I mean there are definitely some games you can get around not having a joystick for

I wish someone had a curated list of those lol

[halcyon palm]

Or at least a single slider if they wanted to keep it flat.

A lot of those early games didn't demand the craziest use of the analog.

[echo torrent]

I liked the slider on the 3DS, would've been fine with that... I guess people complained about them on the Flip 1?

[nova skiff]

the only thing that might change my mind is seeing saturn running without issue on beetle at that point I might not be able to resist

[echo torrent]

6 button could be the ultimate saturn handheld

but its kinda niche

[nova skiff]

yeah that's the thing, there are currently no 6 face button handhelds good for saturn in existence

[lyric flax]

It’s a mixed bag depending on taste. Some people liked em’ some people hated them

[summer marsh]

it's niche, but the saturn community will be all over this if word gets out it can do near flawless saturn emulation with beetle saturn. I think it would sell quite a bit

[halcyon palm]

6 button could be the ultimate saturn Panzer Dragoon handheld

[summer marsh]

hell yes

[lyric flax]

I like them more than most modern analog sticks because they give a springy resistance like the old analog sticks on N64, Dreamcast

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/panzer-dragoon-dragon-petting-dragon-gif-25819936

[frank grove]

retro 4 😎

[summer marsh]

have they actually shipped these out to reviewers yet?

[frank grove]

We did some historic math and Russ video on the rp5 came out 2 weeks before everyones shipped

So maybe in a couple of weeks

But its just a guess

[summer marsh]

tiny sample size but shocked that 4 and 6 button is even

[frank grove]

That surely cant help you decide

Idk how many people are trying to play a ton of saturn

But evidently a bunch

[summer marsh]

respect to the saturn homies

[frank grove]

true, didnt even realize the saturn library was so huge, over 1000

I think I have like 10 lol

I actually have a saturn with some games, notable die hard arcade

[plain flax]

Love the Saturn, doubt this thing will play it well

[shrewd adder]

I disagree. This is made to look like Gameboy colors and has a specific use case. I don’t think every device has to try and do everything. With this hobby most people have more than one device and many options for all rounder devices

[high hemlock]

Just because it's vertical doesn't mean it's made for Gameboy. Otherwise they wouldn't need 4 face buttons or L2/R2, nor would they make a model with 6 face buttons. These devices are very well designed to have multiple purposes.

Just because you don't want sticks doesn't mean it shouldn't have sticks.

[lyric flax]

https://tenor.com/view/slider-cat-sonic-coin-gif-4313398924752362294

[sage silo]

Not every device has to be an everything device imo. Usually more options is better but there is the cost to pocketability with a stick or aesthetics with a slider (assuming one could even fit). And then of course critique over comfort or whatever would come with a slider since they're hated so much generally

[high hemlock]

Sure, but that doesn't mean people can't want sticks on these devices.

It's a valid choice to include sticks.

Not every device has to be an everything device, but at the same time not every device should only be used for the platform that it's trying to mimic in looks.

[echo torrent]

I think they said they tried to fit a stick but couldn’t find the room

So they prioritized the form factor instead etc

[high hemlock]

Yeah, I understand physical restrictions and just pure design choices. But the "not every device has to do everything" argument is just stupid when these devices are in fact designed to be multipurpose.

[sage silo]

Well no. That's more to say that "add more" isn't always a great thing because there are compromises for doing it. With every device release, there's often critique over it not including every little feature, even if it may compromise other things, such as pocketability, dust, aesthetics, etc. Yes it's shorthand, but "not everything needs to be an everything device" is not just saying "I want less features"

[echo torrent]

They are, but there is a lot of saturation, so I can see the reasoning behind omitting it. Carving out a specific niche and all that.

[sage silo]

I remember when the Anbernic 34XX was coming out for example and many critiqued the lack of stick despite it quite literally being designed as a clone of the GBA with an integer scaled 3:2 screen for example

As for the shoulder buttons and extra face buttons, they have use on a device even at its "intended" use for emulator macro features as well as auto-fire.

[echo torrent]

That’s wild if people wanted a stick on that lol

[sage silo]

There was a significant amount of people saying it and the Anbernic SP should have had sticks

The RG Arc also got critique for not having sticks

[high hemlock]

The thing is, there's nothing wrong with wanting more features. It's a perfectly valid opinion. There's nothing wrong with wanting sticks on these devices. But saying "this thing should not have a stick because it looks like a Gameboy" is just dumb.

[sage silo]

More that it compromises on the form factor and display it seems that it's going for.

[high hemlock]

That would be just preference.

[summer marsh]

So? It doesn’t have sticks so it’s not for you. And that’s okay. Plenty of other verticals out there.

[high hemlock]

You bet. I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with people wanting sticks on this.

[echo torrent]

It’s just frustrating because we see sticks on so many verticals that can’t even really run the 3d consoles really well. The only options out there are the AYANEO dmg or the pontoon boat

And I like verticals for bedtime insomnia play lol

[high hemlock]

That's another opinion and there's nothing wrong with that either, yeah.

[summer marsh]

I thought I was a fan of a stick on verticals until I got rg40xxv and hated it.

Though the stick itself sucked and it couldn’t run much. I’d be willing to give the DMG a try for the right price 😆

[sage silo]

All of these things are prefrerence.

[rough depot]

It's not invalid to want sticks, but I'm glad this doesn't have sticks

If it's not for you it's fine there will be another one that is

[echo torrent]

Yeah that’s kind of where I’m at too

[summer marsh]

Mortgage your house for a DMG vertical stick lovers 😛

[high hemlock]

Yeah, so if you think these devices should not have sticks because of the form factor, it's just as valid for people to think the opposite.

[sage silo]

I have never said it wasn't.

[echo torrent]

But even on the dmg the stick position does seem… odd

Idk I was hopeful Retroid would”solve” it or something

[rough depot]

I don't think anyone here is disagreeing that wanting it is okay, we just don't want it on this one

[echo torrent]

But this will be a supreme, potentially definitive non-stick vertical

[high hemlock]

And I was originally just replying to the person who disagreed with wanting sticks on this thing.

[summer marsh]

The stick on the 40xxv made me enjoy playing dpad games less. It was always hovering around down there

[echo torrent]

I guess I never seemed to mind it like that but I get it

[high hemlock]

Never intended it that way. I just found the "it shouldn't have sticks because it looks like a Gameboy" thing hilarious.

[plain flax]

i for one am happy it doesnt have sticks. i wouldve gotten a pocket dmg if it didnt have the stuck. i just want a vertical with a lot of overhead cause I like snappy OSes. Oh and Dreamcast support. That's about as far as I'll take this. However, if it had a slider, I would've been OK with that. we need more devices with sliders!

[sage silo]

The extra power is nice even for devices focused on older consoles for people who like high intensity shaders or high accuracy emulators as well. Also android may be great for things like syncing, music, or whatsoever

[summer marsh]

also just having extra overhead is underappreciated - you don't always want your device maxed trying to play ps1 or something, it results in microstutters and a less than ideal experience.

enjoying quality emulation with extra overhead is a great experience - no worries needed

[plain flax]

yeah im def team android. my android devices just sync so much easier cause standby. plus i can do things like update to the newest retroarch on my own without having to reflash the entire OS repeatedly (looking at you muOS and knulli)

ive been enjoying my brick, but dreading the next version of knulli knowing theres no OTA and i'll have to flash the MC again and retransfer the roms

[sage silo]

I found those sort of issues with the RG351P in time when I used it for gba. Especially when I enabled rewind

[eager rain]

The “pontoon boat” is the ultimate bedside table handheld

Those grips make it comfy, verticals are better for playing while laying down, and you don’t care about pocketability in that scenario

[eager rain]

Quiet controls and good minimum brightness too

[hexed sigil]

Getting rid of the one on mine made it the comfiest handheld in my collection.

[distant ledge]

Classic 6 who? 😛

[pseudo dove]

Does it play all the Saturn library ?

[worldly spoke]

yeah the rg arch should have been more powerful for saturn gameplay

that way the control sceme would have made more sense

[distant ledge]

Not at all 😛 it uses Yaba Sanshiro so some work

[distant ledge]

Some Genesis and arcade games use 6 buttons, no? (I've yet to identfy the ones I'd consider playing)

[worldly spoke]

thats quite a small library

for such a niche device

[stone ice]

well the genesis is still 3 buttons, if you're gonna have 3 might as well have 6

also arcade games

[distant ledge]

... do all Saturn games use the 6 buttons? I'm not sure

[ebon forum]

Oh that's a common issue? Is this comparable to on the cube, or is the cube worse? Because this is basically unnoticeable

[pseudo dove]

There’s over 1000, im sure some didn’t use them all

[stone ice]

the cube thing was a lunch issue, it's fine now light bleed wise

[dusty marsh]

Glad to hear because I game mostly around dinner time 😜

[sage silo]

Haven't actually tested in am emulator yet but 6 buttons for 3 button Genesis/arcade games could make sense too, doubling the top row as turbo buttons or something similar to gba

[stone ice]

that would work too

[river grove]

Jaguar pro controller also has 6 buttons... And the number pad lmao

[analog thunder]

I want a handheld with a number pad!!!! N-GageXX

[hexed dagger]

I’m still waiting for a handheld with a trackball

[tame raft]

Doesnt the new Atari handheld have a trackball?

[summer marsh]

Wow I haven’t seen this before 😆

Looks like an early version of those little keyboard addons for Xbox controllers

[nocturne gazelle]

pretty sure you got game specific slips over the numpad too

[scarlet meadow]

It does

[nocturne gazelle]

think these are remakes but thats the idea for it

[tame raft]

Because when your controller needs game specific overlays for your controller you have a hit on your hands for sure

[analog thunder]

They didn't know any better back then!

[nocturne gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/which-was-the-style-at-the-time-the-simpsons-abe-simpson-grandpa-simpson-grampa-simpson-gif-27496686

he thinks that was abnormal for the jaguar

shit was wild way back in the day

[tame raft]

Yeah, Atari had like twenty years of console designs to tell them better. I know the intellivision, Atari 5200, Colecovision, and probably some others had num pads

[nocturne gazelle]

Meanwhile ideazon/steelseries Hold my beer

[wild beacon]

that does not look hadoukenable

[summer marsh]

Skill issue

[stone ice]

it's basically an extended hitbox, how's it not gonna be hadoukenable

[plain flax]

Yeah it doesn't get more hadoukenable nowadays

[summer marsh]

Why does it look like an aftermarket centre console for a 1996 Chevrolet Cavalier

[plain flax]

You could set up e there to be up and forward for perfect tiger knee motions

[nocturne gazelle]

because its mid 2000's era, razer makes a newer one with RGB now

[analog thunder]

It is funny that atari stuck with the numpad even for the jaguar, well after the snes. They were just stuck in their ways lol

[nocturne gazelle]

atari for most of their original company lifespan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOgTllmr1E

[rugged dune]

The perfect saturn emulation needs analog triggers and sticks not just 6 buttons

[tame raft]

“So our computer guys left and joined commodore? But also commodores guys left commodore and joined Atari?”
Average Atari moment

[nocturne gazelle]

I know what the problem with the jaguar was it just didnt have enough wood veneer

dads love wood veneer

[eager rain]

If retroid had any cojones at all this would’ve been an 865 and only come in wood grain with Saturn controls

[queen glade]

most saturn games don't need an analog stick. it is only truly needed for a handful of them

[wild beacon]

I'd buy that in a heartbeat

[eager rain]

similar to ps1 in that regard

[warm nebula]

Probably some of the reasoning there was greater flexibility on the available controls, they were mostly coming from home computers than consoles at that point after all

[river grove]

also perfect saturn emulation needs a better chip than this lol

[warm nebula]

is this chip not enough for very good non-beetle saturn then as while purists may be less keen, stuff simply working well on a less important system seems fine

[river grove]

i mean yeah, very good non-beetle saturn. but that's not perfect

[summer marsh]

Going to disagree with this.

I never use my 3d pads on my real Saturn

[merry mango]

just get a 6 button. yolo.

[rugged dune]

U must not like racing games

[plain flax]

racing games peaked with top gear change my mind

[stone ice]

they peaked with outrun 2006 coast to coast

[dusty marsh]

Winner winner

[ebon forum]

Chicken dinner? Where?

[eager rain]

I’m pretty sure it was super hang on (arcade, not the Genesis port)

[plain flax]

thats a good one too

look what it takes to mimic a fraction of our power

[solemn sentinel]

Stop me if you've heard this question before: Has Linux been deconfirmed?

[fossil echo]

i think the short anwser is probably yeah but it's going to be a bit?

[solemn sentinel]

Ah

Damn

[nocturne gazelle]

Yeah I wouldnt expect if for a while, brand new chip from a QC who routinely ignore linux devs

[warm comet]

And by a bit meaning somewhere between several months and maybe never lol.

[ebon forum]

i think the consensus is that pre orderers are dummies

moderation!

evict them!

[ebon forum]

idk

preordering is something i would only do with magicx

[merry mango]

Stupid dummies….

[ebon forum]

ive gained quite a bit of trust in these four months

[oak blade]

I only do pre-ordering at Gamestop

[ebon forum]

What did GameStop do to you?

[tropic flame]

Pre-order deez

[oak blade]

Nothing, that's why I pre-order everything there

[ebon forum]

What did gamestop not do to you that others did?

[oak blade]

sell me used games as new

I love that used game smell

[dusty marsh]

Best seller in the handhelds, consoles, , graphics cards, and movie categories.

[merry mango]

Comes with cheetos

[dusty marsh]

Cheeto hot fries will do that to a person.

[ebon forum]

Movies?

My hat

Where is it

[dusty marsh]

People can pre order movie tickets. I never saw the purpose of that.

[merry mango]

So you can claim the seats you want?

[nova skiff]

tempted to pin this

[ashen vault]

If you do, repost it in #1336037750889250960 and pin it there as well

[frank grove]

https://tenor.com/view/someone-great-blair-bad-blair-i-feel-very-attacked-right-now-very-attacked-gif-26033724

[nova skiff]

nah you can't do this to me

[nocturne gazelle]

do we get the free schmoo if we order black

[nova skiff]

smudgiest plastic I've ever seen so I'll pass anyway

[nocturne gazelle]

I mean the blob of what appears to be red velvet cake doesnt help

also with context

someone queue the dumb and dumber gif

[ashen vault]

https://imgur.com/a/pJz5N3n

You asked for it

[oak blade]

THIS IS NOT A PRODUCTION UNIT

[nocturne gazelle]

now dow it again but with a slice of pizza

extra greasy

[potent quiver]

So Chris is back? I thought he resigned

[wintry pecan]

not unless we al go there and suggest it a LOT

[nova skiff]

throw in a rp flip slider while at it

[ashen vault]

He took a break and he’s still on good very good terms with retroid

[nova skiff]

didn't expect that honestly

[ashen vault]

I’m with you

I thought he was thrown under the bus

Like why would retroid delete this

[plush onyx]

I don't think any of us would be dumb enough to take the bait and blame Chris. Firing him / force resigning him would only make Retroid look worse

[eager rain]

I personally can’t fathom wanting to go back to retroid after it was revealed that the rp mini bug was actually fraud but whatever lol

But yeah preordering is evidently an especially bad idea when it involves a new screen or chip

[twin shale]

Asking again now that drama has died a bit

Who copped?

[late rock]

It needs to be

It wouldn't even be that hard 🐈

[late rock]

Good lord

[heavy wren]

Yoooooooo

[crystal walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-lonely-alone-coffee-gif-5059287

[candid jasper]

Integer scalers are in shambles

[crystal walrus]

Eh I’ll use crt filter anyway

Hopefully it has the power to run really nice ones like the rp5 can

[eager rain]

Just do 5x nothing wrong with a touch of overscan on CRT systems

[thick isle]

I actually want a black one

[sinful imp]

You’ll find a lot of them are clones now.

[solemn sentinel]

Ngl

I really want a luxury vertical

[dusty marsh]

Same. Just not this one 🤣

[analog thunder]

Teasing us smdh

[stone ice]

wait, so there is a black one?

[stone ice]

then why post the pics lol

(them, not you)

are the normal colors not produced yet?

[pseudo dove]

Ill hold off for the black one now

[ashen vault]

Just doing his best to post something

Until pics of the retail units surface

[stone ice]

oh he's back?

[ebon forum]

That smudgy plastic looks so good

[ashen vault]

Yes he came back for me

[ebon forum]

My joy has vanished

[ashen vault]

He said „Jigg I can’t live without you“

[ebon forum]

That plastic looks so good

Damn that looks good

The vibes from that plastic

Unmatched

[late rock]

Okay now this just feels almost spiteful

Why must they hurt me like this

[ashen vault]

Feels very Analogue Pocket like

[late rock]

If they make a black colorway it'd be an insta buy

[ebon forum]

Oh those smudges look so good

A natural grey color

[late rock]

This looks beautiful

[dusty marsh]

Would buy day 1

[analog thunder]

Tbf, snes is a weird resolution and hard to integer scale alongside other systems

[scarlet meadow]

NGL if we got a model exactly like that I would pre ordered instead of waiting, yes all Black is boring but I just don’t like the current color options

[ashen vault]

If only there was a channel for suggestions on the retroid discord.. 😔

[late rock]

Agreed, there isn't really a definite color option they have right now that I can say I really like

[late rock]

I'd post again but then they probably would get on me for spamming

[dusty marsh]

Boring but timeless. Absolutely love this.

[ebon forum]

1440p can emulate the crt 4:3 stretch perfectly with integer scaling

[languid bone]

Personally for me retroid is no go because of Chris. Seems again

[ashen vault]

https://tenor.com/view/lookaway-looking-omg-dontlook-ohdamn-gif-5530702

[ebon forum]

Include the smudges

[scarlet meadow]

Definitely, it just looks so much sleeker

[ashen vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-19067401

[scarlet meadow]

Chris was caught in the crossfire and had nothing to do with all the mini drama.
Not sure where your going with this

[ebon forum]

Sean better!!!

[languid bone]

Was his hater before it went mainstream

[scarlet meadow]

For what reason , he’s just tells us what Retroid tells him

But you do you for whatever reason I guess

[analog thunder]

Retroiders trying to convince Retroid to do a solid black unit: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjV27S6-hO7j_SKl-I_LmPoLBTqhBMPjT

[languid bone]

Dude said to STAHP bothering him, so i STAHP buying retroid products in general

[novel crane]

https://tenor.com/view/dude-white-russian-confused-gif-12920711

[thick isle]

Release a black one with ABXY button and I will preorder immediately

[echo torrent]

how is this even... do they wash their hands with olive oil?

[ashen vault]

Maybe they used some different kind of oil

[distant widget]

They might as well put a Sega style dpad while they are at it

[languid bone]

After diddy party

[ashen vault]

Your words, not mine

[knotty thunder]

that is one sexy derrière

[scarlet meadow]

Why are you still here then ?
Here to just continue hating is not a great attitude to have in general, just move on to better things

Taking cheap shots like the Diddy party is kind of immature

[languid bone]

Because I'm free to do whatever i want?

[scarlet meadow]

You sure are but kind of pointless isn’t it to be pissed off just to be pissed off

Have a great day

[languid bone]

You know what is not great attitude? Being a part of a retroid team and speak with your buyers like they are trash

[languid bone]

Cya

[scarlet meadow]

Yup on the block list you go

[knotty thunder]

don't engage with trolls, they thrive off being obnoxious

[late rock]

I feel no shame

[dusty marsh]

This escalated in no time

But yeah. Gimme the six button black handheld

[steady mortar]

Bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[solemn sentinel]

I swear this fucking guy starts shit in every channel he's in

[languid bone]

Who? Me? 🤣

[solemn sentinel]

Yes!

I swear the next time I look away, you'll have ordered a hit out on Chris's entire family

[ebon forum]

What a peculiar way to interpret that

[twin shale]

Somehow no one listens to this advice ever lol

[ebon forum]

Being a hater is free but so is being a lover

[languid bone]

Lold. That's a lie, i'm too passive in this discord in general. Maybe i'm active only in Magicx section. That's all

[ebon forum]

Which one makes people happier?

[ebon forum]

I have never seen you in the magicx section before

It's been four months

[languid bone]

exactly. Because i was only asking when would be ali listing and that's all

[solemn sentinel]

He was there about 7 hours ago

And also implied that Chris getting doxed was karma lol

[languid bone]

it is

[ebon forum]

Next week

[ebon forum]

Mild opposition vs dox

Y'know what

[languid bone]

too late, bought other

[ebon forum]

I think you're behaving mildly oppositionally

I should find your address and post it online

[solemn sentinel]

Part of me almost admires the hustle. Living up to Reverse Flash can't be easy

[languid bone]

sure why not. Inviting you

[ebon forum]

Reverse flash is a hater on another level

Loving is a free but hating is easier

Loving takes effort, hating is easier and free

[ashen vault]

Karma for what exactly

For him doing his job

Or for him just existing

[languid bone]

for being a dick, but i don't think that even such peps should be doxed. Things happens

[ashen vault]

When was he being dick?
If you provide screenshots/ receipts, maybe we can have a healthy discussion

[languid bone]

I don't take screenshots every time someone behaves in a way I don't like. Sorry, mate

[ebon forum]

Telling people to stop harassing you isn't being a dick

[solemn sentinel]

The only time I remember him being in any way unpleasant was him insisting that the RP Mini had no bezel

[pseudo dove]

Might even buy 2 if they do black one in 6 buttons

[solemn sentinel]

Which, I mean technically yeah, but he knew that's not what people were complaining about lol

[ashen vault]

That’s totally fine but you also have to accept that without it your critique turns into harassment.

Don’t be sorry for me be sorry for Chris

You don’t even screenshots, just roughly quote what he said.
You gotta critique something specific otherwise it seems like you’re baselessly spreading hate

[languid bone]

You can think whatever you want. This is just my personal opinion. I wouldn't get any Retroid product until he is part of a team because I don't like the way he communicates with the eng-speaking community. That's all

if it's Retroid msgs translation - fine, happens. We will see

tbh im tired of thir and rp mini drama

[ashen vault]

All i was asking for is how you formed your opinion.
I didn’t say you were wrong right.

Just make it easier for people to understand where you’re coming from so they can either agree or disagree with you

[steady mortar]

Well Good morning to everyone

[ashen vault]

ohaio ghetto dono

[solemn sentinel]

Morning Blade

[steady mortar]

How is everyone doing today

[solemn sentinel]

Every day is a new battle against the addiction

[echo torrent]

stay strong

[ebon forum]

Well now it doesnt

[steady mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-do-it-gif-25784995

[stone ice]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1puR8jGK03A

[dim thorn]

why would they not make black on oled screen device

[solemn sentinel]

Well unlike the RP5 and Mini, the Classic doesn't have an all-glass front

Even with a black device, there's such a clear divide between display and shell that you're aware of where the bezels are at all times

[dusty marsh]

They hate money

[heavy wren]

I’d cancel both my preorders to settle on a black 6 button

[ebon forum]

They don't want that

2 is better than one for them

Then the black six button when sales stagnate

It's a less violent fuckery department approach

[merry mango]

i would get the black over the saturn

[merry mango]

or reserved for an updated version, maybe stronger soc

[dim thorn]

they're gonna do a black 2 button version

[rough depot]

No, you complain too much, now it’s no dpad no buttons, only sticks

[pseudo dove]

And 16:9 screen 😱

[tame raft]

I am waiting for the things to come out and get into peoples hands, but this has really gotten my attention the last few days. I am liking the idea of getting one and loading it with music, audiobooks, ebooks, and light games and trying hard to use it instead of my phone.

Assuming this and the flip dont have any massive issues, I think I may sell most of my other stuff for these two.

[plain flax]

i would also probably sell most of my devices if this thing delivers. it could be an end game vertical for me. All depends on how pocketable it is. theres already a few devices i dont use much and i need to get rid of, so this would be a good time to do it.

[tame raft]

Yeah, honestly since I got retrodeck on my steamdeck I have been tempted to sell my O2mini anyways. I may sell that device and use the money to pick up one of these and a flip 2.

[plain flax]

i have an odin 2 and a legion go but like to keep the go for pc gaming and the odin 2 for emulation or streaming from my pc

[tame raft]

My steamdeck is gradually becoming my everything device. Didnt use it for emulation until recently, but have gone down the deep end the last little bit. only problem is that it is just a bit too big to carry around everywhere.
But I am loving the idea of a small device for all my music, books, emulation and on the go stardew valley.

[plain flax]

for me, one of the reasons i like the odin 2 compared to a legion go (or a deck, i had one too) is i could leave it on for weeks and let it continuously keep syncing with my other devices thanks to android standby. i know that whenever i pick it up, my saves are synced.

with linux (or devices that turn off), i have to check to make sure my save synced when i turn it on

i wouldve bought a pocket dmg if not for the stick. keeps it from being pocketable for me. so this is a great solution (if it delivers)

[tame raft]

That is the big thing. If it delivers it will be an awesome device. I just dont want to preorder and find out its a massive let down

[ebon forum]

Vertical horizontal and clamshell

DS clamshell

Though clamshells technically both