Retroid Pocket Classic

[ebon forum]

And now I've went through a whole trouble shooting session, only to discover the issue is the port on TrimUI devices

This would never happen on android

Either it works everywhere

Or it works nowhere

[nocturne gazelle]

QC also has a booth on the show floor so it could be they just have new chip spec and some devices on display.
4h 30mins till opening

[lament cloud]

Is classic supposed to display Color resolution corner to corner?

Like GBC

[vestal thunder]

Officially the G1 Gen2

[lament cloud]

Who is this in response to xD

Oh taco probably

[pseudo dove]

So what’s this chip do

[turbid haven]

i have never heard of that chip 😄

[brittle tiger]

Wait, Gen 2?

Wow, that is one more gen than I expected.

[vestal thunder]

Chip was just announced

Like, in general, not just for the Classic

[novel crane]

Yeah

[rose dove]

Can support 120hz

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, but keep in mind it still doesn’t support Video out and the screen is only 60hz.

This is at least good news in regard to their later stuff, since it means they now have a cheap Snapdragon chip they can default to for later budget handhelds.

[brittle tiger]

We could literally see a return of stuff like the RP2S and other budget options from Retroid that are in the $80-$120 range.

[novel crane]

Im already speculating that Qualcomm is gonna push Retroid and AYN to use their G series chips

[nocturne gazelle]

kek probably because no one used the G1 Gen1 afaik

plz buy are ancient rebadges

[gaunt cargo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1jdcvr4/retroid_pocket_flip_2_classic_megathread/

[nocturne gazelle]

ew reddit

[modest mantle]

Was the g1 gen1 in anything? Supposedly this is 80% higher and 25% higher in CPU/GPU respectively

I mean could be a solid chip for sure

Just a massive unknown tho

It's Qualcomm, so it's not likely to be trash at least

Wonder how different each one of these G-Chips are. Wonder if unlocking Linux on one might make it easier on the others

[scenic lodge]

Gpu seems pretty low but cpu is good. But there aren't any real specs so nobody knows

It's made for streaming

[nocturne gazelle]

afaik they had an internal dev device and no one bought the chip

[summer marsh]

Beetle Saturn?

Looking at those performance cores 👀

[merry mango]

Does RetroArch support adreno gpu drivers?

[scarlet meadow]

Never heard of the G gen 1

[ashen vault]

Because no one used it

[scarlet meadow]

Any rough estimates what it's comparable too ? Like at least G99 levels or better

[scenic lodge]

I whish the would work with qualcomm to reduce the Input latency even more for these new devices(if it's possible) . That's one the major problems keeping me away from high end Android devices

[pliant kite]

Man that chip really makes the lack of stick that much worse

[novel crane]

Not really, cause the only real system with sticks that benefit from it are N64 and DC, cause lets be frank, GC and PS2 are a pipedream

[scarlet meadow]

Dont worry in 3 months they wiil announce a Classic plus with stick for only 50 more

[novel crane]

Which, still a stick for those is 100% understandable

[ashen vault]

Qualcomm mentioning retroid in their official promo material is kinda cool

[novel crane]

I wonder if AYN is in talks about getting these chips as well?

[nocturne gazelle]

QC really wants to sell their gaming chips after 2 previous generations of no one caring enought ot buy them

[novel crane]

I mean

[scarlet meadow]

Retroid needs to get this out to reviewers hands ASAP to mitigate the PR disaster on the Mini

[novel crane]

Its a net positive for better driver and community support if they sell more devices with these chips

[simple grove]

Wish it didnt have this design on it

Easily going to catch on things

[novel crane]

.... yeaah imma wait for 3rd party options

[vestal thunder]

Hey Qualcomm, what games does this handheld without sticks play? How does it play them? Can you repeat that for the court?

[full vortex]

Something from waterfield would prob fit really clean lol

[brittle tiger]

Oh absolutely, and as long as they don’t make the same mistakes with the G3X Gen 2 (by potentially sending dev units to turnip driver devs and/or high-end Android game devs, to make sure they can optimize for the chips), they’ll already have done a much better job ensuring that a non-standard chip will be properly supported.

[summer marsh]

Soul Calibur homie. What else do you gotta say

[pliant kite]

Yeah, a stick for N64, DC, and PSx would be ideal, they put them on anbernic’s lol

[vestal thunder]

The very legitimate game that's definitely legally available on Android

[brittle tiger]

No shit, and make sure to send it to devs even earlier.

We know Reviewers are unironically way too busy with other handhelds to be able to comfortably check them all for issues (without being rushed by the fact that they need to put the video up well before pre-orders ship out), so let the guys who are gonna be tinkering in-and-out with the device find the issues first.

[rough depot]

The analogue pocket cases are probably pretty much exactly the right size for this

[last badge]

So this g1 gen 2...we know nothing about clockspeeds

I'd say it's about t820 level in performance

[modest mantle]

Id buy it

Really hoping sticks would only be like $20 more tho 😆

Unless they throw in a 865

Unlikely now

[rose dove]

Mini squared seems like a good way to go if you want sticks

[modest mantle]

Maybe g2 gen1

[brittle tiger]

They did say it would be 80% faster CPU and 25% faster GPU.

While they didn’t exactly specify those are in comparison to the G1 Gen 1, that is exactly what they were comparing the G2 Gen 2 and G3 Gen 3 to (their immediate predecessors), so it’s unironically safe to say that the 80% and 25% are in comparison to the G1 Gen 1.

[modest mantle]

You have no idea. So tempting. Just wish it was a vertical. Not sure how pocketable the mini is. Bigger than the cube and cube was a barely

[steady mortar]

This is why people are complaining about retroid in this place look at them they are in western market more

[modest mantle]

All the literature they're handing out there is in comparison to g1 gen1 (2023)

[brittle tiger]

@eager rain Meaning this is gonna be way better at Saturn than what we initially expected.

[modest mantle]

Which was used on.... Nothing?

[merry mango]

i guess not compatible with the 6 button classic

[simple grove]

🤣

[steady mortar]

Damn

It's shame to not do video out but I understand this chip is very new

[modest mantle]

It is funny to reference something no one has ever used tho

Could have lied even more

[brittle tiger]

Yup, I just wanted to be safe since most of the articles I was looking at before seeing Qualcomm’s official announcement didn’t specifically compare it to the Gen 1.

[modest mantle]

246274x stronger then the G1 Gen1. Will literally kill your grandmother with performance

[wind pasture]

Finally

/jk

[modest mantle]

Ah. Makes sense

[ashen vault]

I can’t really do much with these estimates but hopefully we real benchmarks and gameplay tests very soon

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, since no one really even used the G1 Gen 1, we don’t have estimates for that higher increase beyond roughly comparing the G1 Gen 1 to an overclocked 4 Gen 2 like what we were doing before.

[vestal thunder]

IT IS 45% better, WITH 18x performance AND a .8 improvement PLUS deadly nerotoxin!

Pretty simple

[summer marsh]

This is looking promising for Beetle Saturn.

I just want to play Shining the Holy Ark on this gorgeous OLED ohhh please lawd

[modest mantle]

I guess? Who knows what this thing does. Blends?

[nova skiff]

why won't they say what the cores actually are lol

[hexed dagger]

Turnip devs or mesa devs?

[modest mantle]

GPU is kinda week. But I know that doesn't always matter

[scarlet meadow]

I wouldn't be surprised if Russ or ETA already have one and we're waiting for the embargo to end

[modest mantle]

Don't also know the clocks or anything

[ashen vault]

Yeah reviewers are gonna have a blast to play around with new chips that are tailored to their needs (Android gaming and emulation)

I’ll look forward to it

[brittle tiger]

Either one really, we’re gonna need someone to figure out good drivers for compatibility with stuff like Dolphin/Cemu/Yuzu/RPCS3/etc, and Android games usually don’t let you use custom drivers, so QualComm will also need to figure out helping those game’s devs support the chipsets.

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Firmly ok skipping preorder tho. Will wait for reviews and early adopters to sus it out

[ashen vault]

ETA is always first with everything somehow.

Like the raspberry pi 5, nvidias latest low profile graphics card and even every single APU from AMD

[magic rover]

Why, Genshin Impact, naturally.

[nocturne gazelle]

lmao G1 Gen2 80% preformance increase against what a chip that never existed aside from QC labs

[eager rain]

Basically yeah. We need benches next to a known chip like s4g2 or sd865

[scarlet meadow]

ETA gets a lot of hate but I actually don't mind his stuff and look at it more of a product showcase than review , he does got a lot of stuff early

[nocturne gazelle]

or QC could just list their core speeds like any normal company

[simple grove]

I agree. He does tend to rush a lot of his videos out. So sometimes mistakes are made. But he does have some great first look vids.

[ashen vault]

Pretty sure he doxxed himself twice

[simple grove]

Oh really 😅

[ashen vault]

He really pumps them videos out too fast

Yeah one of them was a “ali express best handhelds” video where the description was filled with affiliate links

[steady mortar]

Too fast

[wind pasture]

Stubbs is typing...

[steady mortar]

If you are sleeping you caught lacking 🤣

[gaunt cargo]

ETA is a machine, I wish I could make videos that fast, still takes me days 😆

[steady mortar]

I don't know how he does it tho

[ashen vault]

I once heard eta on the rh podcast and he was talking how he still works full time and uses the money from his channel to pay for his children’s college funds

[gaunt cargo]

He's a good guy

[ashen vault]

Stubbs and ban may correct me if I misremember

[simple grove]

He clearly doesnt sleep

[gaunt cargo]

He works for Launchbox as well

[steady mortar]

Wow and he still got time to make videos

[simple grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wired-tweaking-tweakin-tweak-coffee-gif-5036330

[gaunt cargo]

and I don't think he sleeps yeah haha

[steady mortar]

Wait what

[gaunt cargo]

somehow has that gene

[ashen vault]

For sure people just hold him to a standard that doesn’t make sense.

He’s not an in depth reviewer but someone who does lots of showcases

[gaunt cargo]

No he's a device showcaser

yeah exactly

[steady mortar]

I can't lie I stopped holding him like two years ago and just enjoy his videos as device showcasers

[ashen vault]

Yes I’m always right

[steady mortar]

That's super crazy

[gaunt cargo]

All I see is boob luigi tho

and I have confusing feelings arising

[ashen vault]

There’s a hidden meaning behind that picture

Maybe 2 hidden meanings..

2 big hidden meanings.

[gaunt cargo]

I will not forget my pot holders

[nocturne gazelle]

Fast to make videos when all you do is read spec sheets and show a few games, I prefer more in depth reviews than ads

[scarlet meadow]

That's actually impressive

[unkempt frost]

I always thought it was Luigi Got Big Tiddies

[brittle tiger]

Do either of them have a similar meaning to Flander’s ski suit?

[ashen vault]

I prefer Mr Sujanos videos the most.

I feel like nowadays I can predict like 95% of how the review will go

One disadvantage of watching retro handheld reviews for the past 4 years

[ashen vault]

And you’re right, I was lying to stubbs

[ashen vault]

Not it’s Luigi’s big tiddies

[modest mantle]

An odd fixation. But we are an odd group

[pseudo dove]

Retail pics today??

[modest mantle]

Would be surprised if Retroid wasn't slamming their social media today with pics

Now that all details are out, and to wash out bad press a little. Would be smart

[pseudo dove]

Yeah if they’re selling it later

[full vortex]

Well they are down a social media manager so

😔

I need button tests smh

[last badge]

Qualcomm being vague again like with the g3x gen 2

[wind pasture]

He gets 4 hours of sleep

[last badge]

Think the g3 gen 3 will be an 8 gen 3 in disguise

But then again the gpu is adreno a32

[covert star]

Here you go Stubbs

[full vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-gif-25310321

[scarlet meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ghedaolpnjjj-no-gif-18074182

[merry mango]

The real question is how much faster is this G1g2 than the H700

[sage silo]

It's got to be a decent bit if it's running android

[modest mantle]

It's gotta run Saturn solid. imagine having a separate sku just for Saturn and then it running like ass

[gaunt cargo]

don't let rob see this

also, stoked on this new CPU, but i'd wait for reviews before ordering as its a complete unknown in real world performance

[modest mantle]

Yup

[scarlet meadow]

Like you already dont have one in hand

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribbian-funny-stare-wink-gif-20597720

[ashen vault]

👀

[gaunt cargo]

Next week-ish maybe?

No review units have been mailed out yet, but if history serves...yeah should be by end of this month

[merry mango]

will qualcomm showcase their processor benchmarks using secret console emulation?

[full vortex]

I still kinda want this

[gaunt cargo]

We should be getting the 6 button variant as well to show

and I requested the pokemon one for the regular 😂

Fun colors, I am a simple person

[merry mango]

would like you to tell us if the 6 button is weird for normal 4 face button operation

[simple grove]

Be good to see side by side with dmg. Love my dmg. But do wish for it to be a bit smaller

[ashen vault]

Feel free to @ me once you get shipping confirmation for your review units

[gaunt cargo]

Got a DMG again just for this video

[ashen vault]

We’re starving for info

[gaunt cargo]

I won't be holding back, no worries there 😄

[merry mango]

someone won the lotto.....

[simple grove]

Have you got a brick? Be good to see real world size in hand/pocket

[lunar pecan]

5k mah battery 🥵

[gaunt cargo]

Also goes without saying, but I won't be holding back on Retroid. After the RP Mini debacle, everything will be looked at and considered. Depending on timing if i'm first up, we'll be doing a livestream and calling on your help as we dive into every nook and cranny.

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/it-will-last-forever-peter-deligdisch-peter-draws-it-lasts-forever-its-going-to-live-forever-gif-26730437

[lunar pecan]

1080p spider-man dreamcast RAHHHHHHHHHH

[gaunt cargo]

Scaling, shaders, all that

[merry mango]

also see if they send a cake/pie with it

[gaunt cargo]

I do!

[wind pasture]

@oak blade

[simple grove]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-office-fantastic-great-gif-25279163

Stubbs shorts pocket test confirmed

[gaunt cargo]

Very close! Mounting debt is similar, right? 😂

[late rock]

Got the microscope ready I hope

[wind pasture]

Stubbs will have to wear pants for that

[ashen vault]

Doubling the amount of taste tests from now on?

Just be extra thorough

[gaunt cargo]

Seeing if I can get a lens that will work for this with my equipment

[late rock]

The berry one looks appealing

[ashen vault]

Now that you mention it..

[late rock]

I bet the purple one tastes like battery acid

[merry mango]

it looks berry good

https://tenor.com/view/shy-aww-shucks-goofy-bashful-gif-16177836

[spice mist]

I made a rule 2 years back on buy electronics, always buy after 6-9 months when all the software kinks & hardware defects are ironed out. So review hardly matter on launch days. They are good info but not get my money

[distant widget]

The adreno 750 in the 8 gen 3 is the same architecture as the a740 in the 8 gen 2, same core count as well but clocked higher
so the g3x gen 3 does look exactly the same as a 8 gen 3 with clock speed being the unknown

[ashen vault]

The rule that could have saved people from the rp mini

[spice mist]

It save me from Asus ROG Ally issues

[eager rain]

Should’ve saved money and bought the 406v on sale after it got gammaOS instead of buying it on launch

Didn’t quite appreciate how much of my enjoyment of the 405v was gamma derived

[stone ice]

i gave up on the 406v yesterday after having it in my cart at a very good price

there's really no point to me buying it

[spice mist]

406v sticks coming out is big NO NO for me

I don't baby my gadgets after 2 weeks

[gaunt cargo]

Would it be crazy to wish for a cheaper 406V without sticks? Or a recessed single stick?

I used to think the RGB30 stickless mods were a little wacky, but after using the Aya classic, stickless really does have offer a more focused and pocketable experience

[full vortex]

A skinny 406v would be banging

[spice mist]

I thinks Saturn performance can be key for 6 buttons on Retroid Classic , thats the only one I fancy for

[scarlet meadow]

Can't wait

[spice mist]

Otherwise we have n-Th number of devices with XY AB only layout

[turbid haven]

this does feel a bit fast after rp5

[spice mist]

new for Retroid 5 devices in 7-8 months

[merry mango]

what 6 button saturn games are you guys playing

[eager rain]

I hope we get a 40xxV followup with whatever their next budget chip is and the 406 screen

as long as their next budget chip has vulkan for slang shaders that's my perfect gameboy right there

[merry mango]

40xxsp

[reef magnet]

So Qualcomm is pushing for new chips in the handheld space? Very neat

[merry mango]

or 3.92xxsp

[stone ice]

anbernic please make a 4 inch dmg without sticks already

[eager rain]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-sterling-archer-my-penis-can-only-get-so-erect-penis-dick-gif-5428707

[merry mango]

whats missing for you in this classic?

[stone ice]

i'm talking about a budget model

[eager rain]

the anbernic logo, it doesn't integer scale GBC like the 406 screen does, and my preferred gameboy shaders would be a huge burn in risk on oled

[stone ice]

also i don't want retroid controls on a vertical in general

[merry mango]

im still hit or miss on the retroid dpad for fighting games....

[stone ice]

i just don't like to be reminded i'm using a ps vita dpad all the time

[pseudo dove]

Where da pics at

[stone ice]

pinned

[ashen vault]

Actually underrated handheld

[novel crane]

Me with the RP Classic

https://tenor.com/view/power-starwars-unlimited-power-gif-15939349

[pseudo dove]

Retail pics

[merry mango]

looks and feels cheap irl imo. but still a decent device

[novel crane]

That's honestly why I am still kinda amped about this! Sure an additional stick is nice and all, but I want a more focused experience that I can slide into my pocket

[lunar pecan]

so the retroid Classic?

[rough depot]

I was actually surprised when a friend let me hold his, it’s quite a bit nicer than the pics make it look imo

[stone ice]

i mainly have stickless devices as the stuff i'm willing to take around, it irks me to have sticks moving around in bags

i don't think we need the whole 406v without sticks though, just that screen on a slimmer flat dmg body

[ashen vault]

Yeah the screen having almost no surface for the adhesive to hold it down doesn’t help either

[novel crane]

Tbh swap the sticks for sliders and make it thinner

[ashen vault]

But it looks pretty, except for the stick

[merry mango]

it just looked and felt like cheap plastic to me

[stone ice]

i'd rather not have anything, sliders can get caught on stuff too

[novel crane]

Fair

Im more on the side of no sticks, but adding a sliders for N64 and DC is understandable tho for those who want it

[merry mango]

i wouldnt mind the psp knub

[pliant kite]

I really like the heavily recessed switch stick on my A30 and it doesn’t impact pocket ability

[rough depot]

Mini zero 28 has the recessed sticks too and they feel great

They’re the good Retroid sticks too

[cursive totem]

shut your dirty mouth. We don't talk like this in this channel s/

[modest mantle]

Sliders bro. Sliders everywhere. Let's just normalize it

Would make the world a better place

[gaunt cargo]

Sliders can be fun if done right

[nova skiff]

they were done mostly right for rp flip and then were never seen again 😔

[modest mantle]

Just makes sense if your goal is to make something small enough to slide into a pocket

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/tipsy-gif-14594229

[rough depot]

I enjoy sliders, I think companies just want to make generalist devices that take no risks so they get avoided because some people abhor sliders

[modest mantle]

You know. I'm sure they're out there but I've ran into less resistance than I thought I would

Especially because those same people tend to hate switch sticks as well

And at that point I'm like, just grab a controller

[mint nymph]

I do wonder if the classic is almost a workaround when they realized the Mini wasn’t going to keep going with the screen. If they bought the screens you gotta use them in something.

[stone ice]

for me something with sticks or sliders isn't going into my pocket, it's more the opposite

if i'm gonna be playing ps2 and over i want decent ergo and taller sticks

[pseudo dove]

They have to release the retail pics soon right… right? It’s going on pre order in 8 hours

[merry mango]

insert temu meme

[lyric flax]

We really need a device with hall sliders to come to market again eventually

[stone ice]

you gotta consider how awkward sticks on verticals already are, and how much more awkward verticals with sliders would be

[lyric flax]

Sticks on verticals being awkward is subjective and depends on the layout, same could be said for sliders; it can be done correctly though

People like to hate on sliders just because they’re different, but that’s exactly why I like them. They feel better for DC and N64 compared to modern analog sticks imo

[eager rain]

I want a gamepad with flip 1 sliders for my laptop bag

[modest mantle]

Imo sliders would be way better on verts then sticks. But to each their own

A slider is basically a button you slide around. You already do that with any mobile touch screen game. Sticks are heavily dependent on location. As your thumb actually has to travel around the stick for certain directions. I've honestly never found sticks comfortable on anything that doesn't have ergos to palm like a controller

[stone ice]

sliders are more dependent on location

you need more leverage to slide a slider than to move a stick

[modest mantle]

Kinda. I can use a dpad whether it's low or high on a device. Sticks is another story

Sliders are closer to a dpad than a stick

[stone ice]

from my experience with the 3ds they take too much force to move to be on the bottom

i don't know if the flip ones are smoother

[modest mantle]

I mean that's all configurable. it's still the same range of motion

Flip 1 sliders were chefs kiss. And I don't even consider them to be in the best position

Will be interesting to see how sticks are on the flip 2. As long as the center of gravity is near the hinge, they should be solid

I was just impressed that on the flip 1 they even had R3/L3 on the sliders. Those things were very nice

Really just kinda shocks me they haven't put them on anything else. Especially since there wasn't really any hardware complaints about em

I'm sure taking off the shelf sticks is just cheaper tho

Sliders would have been nice on the Ayaneo classic too

[pseudo dove]

Cmon give us the pics

Maybe it’s still only in render stages, no real device yet!

[merry mango]

But they put it beside pie….

[pseudo dove]

Not the classic

Need classic beside pie pics

[obsidian breach]

is g1 gen 2 just rebranded 4 gen 2/4s gen 2

peformance should be between G99 and D900?

[lyric flax]

Naw there was loud complaints lol

[steady mortar]

Actually 4 gen 3

[late rock]

Okay but on a vertical I think it'd be different

[steady mortar]

The sliders was good

But on vertical is way better

[lyric flax]

I love sliders, they’ve just got a loud group of haters because they’re different. Do I want sliders on every controller and handheld? No. But are they sick as a choice for different way of playing and pocket-ability imo? Hell yeah 🙌

[obsidian breach]

is 4 gen 3 still 6 A55 + 2 A78 cores or is it different? could not find any info

[steady mortar]

I don't really know cpu will be better than g99 and 720g

For sure

Gpu will be weak side

[obsidian breach]

I mean, 4 gen 2 is already at G99 level

[steady mortar]

Yes but they will be better than that

[obsidian breach]

I would assume gen 3 will be better than that at least

I wonder if it is manufactured by TSMC or Samsung

[hexed dagger]

it's probably without the broadband stuff, but with overclocked GPU

[steady mortar]

Yes

But the good thing is if they could do rp2s with this chip

[obsidian breach]

it sounds overkill for the type of handheld the classic is

[steady mortar]

True but not really people like to do other things that benefit the emulation

[obsidian breach]

yeah and the price is still quite low

[steady mortar]

Exactly the technology is always improving

[warm nebula]

Not a fan of sliders, but they'd be ideal on a device like this where it's them or nothing

[merry mango]

i hated the psp knub at first. it wasnt until i put emulation on it that i appreciated it

[simple robin]

Look at his subs. He has more reach

[ashen vault]

I feel like he’s also being as a more valuable partner since he probably has a good conversion rate
view -> affiliate link -> sale
and he’s less critical since he doesn’t do in depth reviews

So manufacturers really like sending him stuff

[nocturne gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/free-funny-awkward-its-free-real-estate-gif-5089571

[lyric flax]

If it had a slider for the classic 6 it would’ve been perfect for N64

[ebon forum]

Tone35 might appeal to you

[rare pumice]

careful, last time I mention ETA Prime when I first came on here. I caught some heat from it.

[simple robin]

I watch for the thing other can't get

[steady mortar]

Eta prime is device showcase and at least it's good thing you can see the device early then later on watch reviewers depth on the device

[vestal thunder]

The only beef I have with ETA is that he uses the word "review" too much. No issue otherwise, great content to check out devices

[rare pumice]

I mean he is very good at what he does, he makes good videos, but there are some here who don't like him.

[steady mortar]

Yes deffo my only criticism of that

[simple robin]

He use scam people in 2018. But, NO one cares now.

[pseudo dove]

Classic pie anywhere???

[cobalt cypress]

Any ideas on what the performance of the G1 Gen 2 chip in this sucker is gonna be like? In my head I'm imagining it being fairly comparable to the T618, where it'll play everything below GameCube and PS2 just fine as well as just a little bit of lightweight GameCube and PS2, but I really don't know.

[last badge]

Probably around between G99 and T820 level, closer to the T820

Majority of GCN/Wii, most PS2 with tweaks

I'd highball it to D1100 level

[modest mantle]

Complaints about sliders sure. But not complaints about them not working I think?

And I def don't want sliders on everything. Just when going for pocketability I think they make a lot of sense

[halcyon gyro]

oh damn this has a 5000 battery, if the soc is efficient as people been saying this is probably going to be a battery king?

[full vortex]

Also oled and also 27w charging

Pretty cool for battery people

Esp if playing lower end

[steady mortar]

Yes closer to t820

But since it's snapdragon it should have better performance

But the gpu will be bit weak

[simple robin]

Love, how everyone knows everything about this brand new SOC. Should ask yall for lotto numbers

[frank grove]

Think this will be worth an upgrade from a Brick?

[pseudo dove]

I’m upgrading from the brick, brick too small

And want a square oled too

[steady mortar]

Yeah because g1 gen1 is basically 720g

[steady mortar]

Yes but wait for reviews before any rash decisions

[frank grove]

Good points

Really just wondering what android games will run on it with no stick

[merry mango]

but fomo.......

[ashen haven]

I'm very interested, but I definitely think waiting for reviews is the smart call.

But do I have the willpower to be smart today?

[frank grove]

Do reviewers have theirs in hand yet, or still waiting to even receive them?

[ashen haven]

I don't believe anyone has been hands on with the Classic or Flip 2 outside of Retroid.

[frank grove]

So anyone ordering tonight will just be yoloing then

Got it

[pseudo dove]

There’s not even been any pics of the actual device yet like they did with the flip2

Vaporware

[ashen haven]

Exactly. Yet here I am...

I'll probably wait, but the urge is there.

[modest mantle]

I dunno. I eat like 1 less cheeseburger and it negates the discount. Haha. I'll be waiting

[frank grove]

Respect, its tempting for sure

[ashen haven]

Haha, very fair!

[frank grove]

I guess Ill see how much it comes out to with shipping if it turns me off enough

[ashen haven]

Yeah, staring at the total after shipping has helped me not make bad decisions in the past.

[frank grove]

Plus dunno what the tarrif situation is this week

[ashen haven]

Right. I think if it came through customs today it would be fine. But by late April when this might ship? Who knows?

Absolutely no way to predict at this point.

Adding another $100+ in tariffs would definitely hurt the price calculation.

[frank grove]

Wonder how much the bigger size sacrifices portability

[modest mantle]

Depends on your jean pocket size. Hehe

Mine will fit both. I just might not throw my wallet in there too

[frank grove]

True, not all of us live in Hawaii and get to rock shorts year round

[full vortex]

I kinda wish there was a littttle more chin

[modest mantle]

That's what GKD Pixel is for

[frank grove]

Are there google services on it?

[modest mantle]

Banana hammock friendly

[ashen haven]

All recent Retroid devices have had Google services, I'd be shocked if this didn't.

[frank grove]

Might go through with it and sell my brick and mini28 to go towards it

[deep rune]

bigger display wins by default. less than 3.5" got me squinting

[frank grove]

Is the handheld spreadsheet wrong, it says its a touchscreen

[ebon forum]

Damnit i should've bought a classic

If it's touchscreen I'm selling

[novel crane]

It is a touchscreen

[frank grove]

Am I misreading this comment? Makes it sound like theres no touchscreen

[novel crane]

.... that comment is wrong

This is the same screen as Ayaneo DMG and LG Wing

[frank grove]

Had 137 upvotes

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1j8gruq/retroid_pocket_classic_specs/

[novel crane]

Which is a touchscreen

[frank grove]

First reply to the top comment

[keen parcel]

Im saying lol

[novel crane]

that explains it

I take anything reddit says with a grain of salt

As the SBC reddit is a echo chamber of bad takes

[keen parcel]

That's just reddit

[novel crane]

True lol

[ebon forum]

It's touchscreen????

Damnit i shouldn't have bought a brick

Something better is always right round the corner

[modest mantle]

You want 2? I'll sell you mine 😆

[scenic lodge]

It's the same screen as dmg, lg wing yes

[novel crane]

Yeah, this is the same screen as the RP Mini, LG Wing, and Ayaneo DMG

[sage silo]

It's always good to check out of hype cycles if you're satisfied with a device

[frank grove]

If its touch screen maybe san andreas will be playable then

Hmmm

[modest mantle]

Honestly it's one of those hobbies where riding a year behind is probably the smartest move

[novel crane]

Yeah

I got my best devices I say like

A year or two after they released

[ebon forum]

I'm not really

I hate linux

No touchscreen isn't really that bad

[sage silo]

Tbh I think an ideal device for me would be something GBC sized with the ability to play pico8. No sticks. No weird shoulder button shapes. Give me close to that smooth back panel Nintendo gave me. And (nearly) square screen

[novel crane]

Allows the CFW and bugs to get paved out

[ebon forum]

But it's be better if it did

[modest mantle]

And any manu shenanigans

[keen parcel]

These gaming chips they poop out don't seem to get alot of support

[full vortex]

No touchscreen android sucks

[sage silo]

Idk about the Linux offerings on the Brick but any typical emulation station setup is pretty nice for older emulation

[full vortex]

It would be bad

[modest mantle]

Cause not many have used them

It's chicken egg scenario

[frank grove]

Zero28 has no touchscreen

Its rough lol

[sage silo]

For me Linux starts to get more annoying once you get into systems beyond Retroarch

[modest mantle]

I find Linux a lot easier if I can get to the terminal with a BT keyboard. Lol

[full vortex]

Yeah and that with software made with no touchscreen in mind

[ebon forum]

And I chose the worst handheld for portmaster

The xx spam is conducive to developme r

[sage silo]

Well additional annoyance on rocknix for single card devices because of it not making an exfat partition for Roms.

[ebon forum]

Two a133p devices arent

[sage silo]

Dang that sucks.

The 35XX SP has paid dividends with how great MuOS has been for me

Then the 120hz screen discovery? Magic

...not that many Portmaster games can even do >60fps

[novel crane]

I mean it's still good for BFI, but yeah

[analog thunder]

Battle For Ikinibottom

[frank grove]

Vice city through portmaster on the brick runs pretty well

[ebon forum]

The controls🙈

I'm just waiting for that stick grip

[frank grove]

Its really not that bad, I got through a handful of missions without it

[sage silo]

I've tried that. Unfortunately it gives me eyestrain. It is pretty cool though

[summer marsh]

BFI on 35xx sp for real?

[plush onyx]

Iirc from a RGC video, that is true

[nocturne gazelle]

yeah gamma sniffed out the 35xx is a 120hz panel

#1128080130242261094 message

34xx as well

and as mentioned before its really only good for RA Black frame insertion so every second frame is just pure black so really its just 60fps but with better motion clarity

[frank grove]

Which color are y'all going for?

[merry mango]

6 button

[frank grove]

Might go with the retro

[merry mango]

i also want the retro......

[frank grove]

Why not both?

[novel crane]

Between 6 button and Teal for me

[frank grove]

6 button only benefits saturn games? Any other uses?

[surreal gyro]

I'm gonna go with whatever shows up on marketplace from their fixed second batch

[merry mango]

will you be playing a lot of cps?

[novel crane]

Yep

[simple robin]

or retroid will tell its fixed.

[surreal gyro]

We didn't know! It was the manufacturer!

[simple robin]

Anyways. I like the berry color.

[simple grove]

Want black bezel. So probs purple

[full vortex]

Black bezel is best

[frank grove]

Hmm maybe purple yea, it def looks more like a gb color than an og gb

[simple grove]

Black bezel will blend into blacks of oled screen

So when games have borders it will look much nicer

[keen light]

did anyone get review units?

[plain flax]

my mind says 2 extra buttons on the saturn version means more hotkeys for retroarch shortcuts. my heart says PIKACHU

[covert star]

Extra hotkeys is always nice

[simple robin]

m2 button would of been nice

[eager rain]

if this chip gets CFW I'll get a kiwi

[frank grove]

Will it have some frontend already on it?

[simple robin]

retroid came out with great color on this

[heavy wren]

Figure anything to setup a Pocket Mini will crossover to this due to it using the same screen

[covert star]

Snapdragon G1 Gen 2 Pocket Classic
8-core Kryo (2 Performance, 6 Efficiency cores)
Adreno A12
Wi-Fi 5, Bluetooth 5.1
Up to FHD+ 120 Hz

VS (whatever the first gen was below)

Snapdragon G1 Gen 1
8-core Kryo
Adreno A11
Wi-Fi 5, Bluetooth 5
Up to 1080p 60 Hz

"The Snapdragon G1 Gen 2 is the last chip in Qualcomm's new Snapdragon G series stack but receives an equally substantial upgrade. The octa-core Kryo CPU features two Performance and six Efficiency cores. The new configuration promises 80% better CPU performance. Meanwhile, the Adreno A12 offers 25% over the last-generation Adreno A11. We can witness this regarding display support, where the Snapdragon G1 Gen 2 is suitable for up to FHD+ 120 Hz as opposed to the Snapdragon G1 Gen 1's 1080p 60 Hz."

[ebon forum]

I like the arm chip market honestly

Mediatek is real competition

Amd is too actually idk what I'm talking about

Intel is too entrenched to lose

The vast majority of people dgaf about snapdragon

Mali GPU is irrelevant, so the battery stuff that mediatek has is real nice for the average person

[novel crane]

The ARM market has actually competition to see grow

Vs x86

[simple robin]

wifi 5 on a new SOC. why

[late rock]

It's not great but past the initial setup the wifi probably doesn't matter that much on this

[simple robin]

to me good wifi is something I need

wifi5 is fine for the handheld. other things like why

[late rock]

That makes sense ig, what other things are they planning on using this for?

[steady mortar]

The chip or the device

[late rock]

Chip

[nocturne gazelle]

because its pretty much not an new soc they found something old to make gamery

technically its probably a refresh of an old line

[gaunt cargo]

https://youtu.be/_DkHE4jOfP8

[frank grove]

Cutting it a little close to release phew

[ebon forum]

All dripped out to explain the mini situation

[gaunt cargo]

Yeah that was a speed run edit

[frank grove]

Still on the fence, watching it rn. Already smashed that like button

[gaunt cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/h3-h3h3-families-h3podcast-h3families-gif-22826766

[gaunt cargo]

don't do it unless you want to be a potential jank beta tester, basically, wait for reviews etc

but also look at the new shiny toys
-# can our past traumas be healed, will we ever be ok?

[candid jasper]

I choose trust over fear

I'm ready to be hurt again

[covert star]

I am the "jank beta tester"
I love to tinker and hack though

[candid jasper]

Although I'm going flip 2 instead of classic

[delicate ermine]

I gotta come over, break your legs and take your classic Flip2 if you want

hope you gotta order the black one

[brittle tiger]

Jank Beta Tester here.

[candid jasper]

US 16 Bit

[delicate ermine]

weren't you the most vocal against pre-ordering from them again 😂

[frank grove]

I think Im going to, I mean if its software related it can be fixed

Also it plays some ps2?

Yea I think im in

[ebon forum]

its all talk

till it comes time to order

[brittle tiger]

That was before they actually gave me a better solution than what I was expecting (them actually offering those replacement screens for free to mini owners), as well as actually delisting the Mini.

Now, I’m just flat out refusing to buy the Flip 2 because I do not trust that hinge, but I’m willing to test the Classic.

[wild beacon]

you can checkout anytime you like, but you can never leave guitar solo

[delicate ermine]

If they would list the Mini Cube for pre-orders as well, I would place some but nooooo

[brittle tiger]

Nah, I’ve already made it clear that the reason I went from “only willing to get the classic since I literally cannot see how they can screw that up” to “not even getting the classic” was directly because of the revelation on the Mini’s screen being a lie. With them actually doing what we suggested, I feel at least fine enough again to do that, while also still advising people wait.

[rare magnet]

120Hz VRR OLED screens can heal all wounds. (Oh, these don't have that? ... then the pain continues.)

[void mortar]

Not preordering either of these, but I hope they turn out good.
I may buy the Classic, not for myself but for one of my family members as a gift.

[brittle tiger]

Let us beta testers be exactly that, and wait for us to find any jank before you order.

[delicate ermine]

and once again I have to say

[brittle tiger]

(Plus, I refuse to not use PayPal, so I at least have that as an option if there is somehow a “mini” level issue, one that I’ll be fully willing to pull the trigger on).

[void mortar]

Mini Cube being sold for real is an actual possibility if people end up liking the DIY'd Mini's so Ig wait for people to DIY their RPMini's and hope they enjoy them x3

[ebon forum]

The mini situation genuinely pisses me off

We were scammed of a good super SP bottom

[brittle tiger]

…That’s why you were mad? Not that people were lied to, and then they were willing to fix it so that we’d actually have the proper screen without any fake 4:3 jank, but that means the Mini V2 is likely delayed?

[ebon forum]

oh no im mad about that too

thats why im boycotting retroid as a whole

[gaunt cargo]

SAME THO

[ebon forum]

but the lack of integer scaling is also really annoying

[merry mango]

im guessing this isnt tempered glass?

[ebon forum]

seriously how do you not remember that i was actively participating in the discusion the whole time

[modest mantle]

It probably is

I don't know why they'd do plastic

[eager rain]

most screen protectors are tempered aren't they?

[wind pasture]

WE KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT

[merry mango]

nah, some are film

[brittle tiger]

Oh they posted that stuff? Nice, I’ll just check the diy section to see what the Classic buttons are.

[modest mantle]

Shit if they did glass for the RP5, this is 100% glass

[eager rain]

and yeah I'm not sure retroid has re-earned anywhere near enough trust for preorder territory

[modest mantle]

At $5 for 1 it'd have to be

[eager rain]

still half expecting used rp mini returns to go back out as 'new' at some point

[brittle tiger]

I do, I just also remember that you were going nuts about the Mini V2 screen being the perfect bottom screen for Super SP.

[ebon forum]

technically i wouldn't say i don't trust them

[modest mantle]

Mr shield will sell you like 3 for $10

[brittle tiger]

Wait, was that you or Bennie?

[ebon forum]

i just think they're scummy

[ebon forum]

ah this is why people still hate magicx

[merry mango]

i guess im getting ready to buy all this shit lmao

[modest mantle]

Lol

What does that mean?

[brittle tiger]

Yes, that’s literally what I’ve been saying.

[modest mantle]

Buy it, but it'll look nothing like this

[ebon forum]

i see

but chris is gone so im not forgiving them

😡

[modest mantle]

I mean I'll trust magic more after they release 3 devices in a row without some drama

[merry mango]

wha happun

[ebon forum]

mini m

[merry mango]

itll just be a brown paper bag

[ebon forum]

i finally connected that to this

wait no this is different

is it?

it is

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, same here. And it’s the same for Retroid, Classic is just me taking the bet on there being no issues since I flat out can’t guess what issues there could be (beyond something like Gray-Orange).

[ebon forum]

magicx "refunds" were larger

although you didn't get a chip replacement kit

[modest mantle]

Lol

Terrifying thought. Chip replacement kits

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, Mini M was the second strike after the XU10, with the Mini M also being after they started working with the community.

[modest mantle]

I'm assuming retroid are going to charge for those kits no?

Handing out 1000 OLED screens seems expensive

[void mortar]

Free

[ebon forum]

i mean the mini m they just got scammed

[brittle tiger]

For the screen kit? No they actually directly said it would be free.

[void mortar]

I think they said they're giving them for free

Yeah

[brittle tiger]

And the XU10?

[covert star]

supposedly they spent around 1 million to fix the mini issue

[ebon forum]

idk

no one talks about it

[brittle tiger]

Because keep in mind, I do also think it was likely a scam, but I’m just explaining why other people would still distrust them since it happened twice.

[ebon forum]

we are getting a zu20 though

[late rock]

We're getting an even better 4:3 screen soon

[brittle tiger]

I’m personally just neutral (leaning towards distrust) towards them because they fell for the same scam twice, which is arguably just as bad, but the intent isn’t as bad.

[merry mango]

man anbernic is late

[modest mantle]

I guess maybe it's cheaper than full refunds for entire devices

[merry mango]

where is rg395xxsp

im about to preorder

[ebon forum]

hmm

how do i hate retroid while loving magicx

but logically

[brittle tiger]

Because Chris isn’t around while Sean is still working for MagicX?

Edit: Ok yeah, he talked 8 hours ago, he’s fine.

[ebon forum]

Spectacular excuse

Retroid was shenaniganistic whereas MagicX was much less so

[brittle tiger]

Well then there we go, that’s probably why you still love MagicX, since it’s really just that you like Sean.

[ebon forum]

I wouldn't say I distrust retroid at all

[late rock]

Tbf the retroid thing was very drawn out

[ebon forum]

No it's just the shenanigans

[late rock]

Though I also wasn't in the space during the magicx debacle so maybe that went on longer

[ebon forum]

Me neither

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, it was specifically first the XU10 being advertised as having a 3326s (but was really the regular 3326, it wasn’t even mislabeled like the Mini M), then Sean showed up and wanted to ask for what the community wanted out of handhelds, explaining that MagicX was hoping to take input to do better.

And then the Mini M was released, was legit a pretty decently good handheld, but had some weird issues of it not doing as well as it should, given it “had an rk3562”.

And then the mislabeled 3326 reveal happened.

[wintry pecan]

the mini v2 wasnt gonna come out for awhile anyway
besides waiting for a screen, releasing it now would eat the market for the rp5 and current mini

[frank grove]

Is this chat going to move from upcoming devices in like 20 minutes?

Still struggling a bit with this new format

[late rock]

Yeah I guess that really isn't the best look. They're currently 2-1 right now.

[wintry pecan]

probly not till reviewers get one

[brittle tiger]

Pretty much.

[tame raft]

Cant decide how comfortable this thing is going to be compared to something like the MM+ which was a bit cramped for my hands. Looks cool though...which is what always get me and my wallet into trouble

[frank grove]

So whats the verdict, are we buying in 20 mins?

[wintry pecan]

im waiting for reviews

[novel crane]

Im waiting

[wintry pecan]

you can if you want tho, both are pretty known quantities, only QC can surprise us

[brittle tiger]

I remember we had a size comparison picture that showed it was actually pretty big while still being smaller than the rg40xx V, but I can’t find it thanks to the lack of search options in forums.

[wintry pecan]

lemme dig it up

[brittle tiger]

Ah here we go.

[frank grove]

I have this one from earlier

[brittle tiger]

Just found it.

[tame raft]

The main thing for me will be how cramped those buttons feel. Being so close to the bottom

[brittle tiger]

With me, I’m fine with the RG35XX Plus, and this is basically just gonna be a bit wider than that in terms of actual usage, as well as a little taller.

[wintry pecan]

my overlay on a real dmg

thyeres one other ima find

[frank grove]

Is it roughly the same size as a gbc?

[tame raft]

Holy cow I thought it would be so much smaller, like 35xx sized. Was not expecting something only a bit smaller than the 40xxv.

[crystal walrus]

is there a slang shader that replicates game boy pocket?

[junior fox]

That’s not a DMG

[crystal walrus]

hopefully I don’t have to adapt my gbp grid overlay somehow

[wintry pecan]

found it

[junior fox]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-face-palm-ugh-why-rubbing-eyes-gif-11669666

[frank grove]

I wouldnt consider it pocketable in that case, still highly portable

I had a gbc as a kid and although it technically fit in my pocket, it was a chonker

[pulsar moon]

the select color on the rp classic doesn’t make any sense.

on the 4 buttons variant is fine, but on the 6 buttons looks weird

[frank grove]

Idk if these colors are accurate, I grabbed it from reddit

[wintry pecan]

you are correct, somehow i didnt notice i grabbed a modded gbc lol

[frank grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1jap3c6/retroid_pocket_classics_size_compared_to_popular/

Theres more size comparisons here in the comments

[brittle tiger]

This comparison does not accurately represent the true size of the RG406V.

It needs to show the cheeks.

[frank grove]

Just finished, Im probably more conflicted now

Just tell us what to do

[frank grove]

Yea its thick

[brittle tiger]

Don’t get it unless you’re willing to be a beta tester for potential issues.

[frank grove]

I wish the DMG didnt cost steam deck money, if it was under $200 it would be such a winner

[brittle tiger]

Basically the same as all these handhelds.

[wintry pecan]

nothing ayaneo does is ever cheap, even when it should be

[brittle tiger]

In fact, stop pre-ordering handhelds.

[frank grove]

Worst case scenario can do a paypal dispute/chargeback

Theyre obviously getting hate right now for the mini issue, but Id guess its more of an outlier

[covert star]

Just verified with retroid. It has a touch screen. Thank goodness 😅

[brittle tiger]

…Yeah, that’s why I’m buying with PayPal.

[merry mango]

Retroid accepts PayPal?

[ebon forum]

this is how upcoming devices have always been

[brittle tiger]

Yeah. It’s how I ordered the RP5.

[ebon forum]

its always been a forum

[merry mango]

Nice. Makes it easier

[nocturne gazelle]

just dont let them weasle their way out of paypals return window next time

[frank grove]

Yup

[covert star]

It is done

[frank grove]

4x was $15, dhl $35

[covert star]

Not sure why they are selling the dock as an option with it. Upside-down charging🤣

[surreal fable]

I am intrigued by this.The oled screen at this price plus an unknown chip to stretch .Not too much money at the end of the day

[brittle tiger]

So who got what?

[surreal fable]

Classic 6

[heavy wren]

I added a fukn kiwi to my cart and checked out and my order says classic 6😭😭😭

[frank grove]

Retro 4 button 6

[scarlet meadow]

Good luck to all but still waiting for reviews and hopefully a v1.5 Mini with full use of the screen

[heavy wren]

EVERYONE GOT THE RETRO 6

[junior fox]

[merry mango]

the deed is done

i feel dirty

im a consumer whore

[brittle tiger]

You gotta wait until the other pictures load in the store page for it to work properly.

[surreal gyro]

You should

[brittle tiger]

Now? I’d just recommend asking them to replace the order with the one you wanted.

[merry mango]

theres still time to cancel......

[heavy wren]

What?

[merry mango]

i was not prepared for the n word

[brittle tiger]

Again, you gotta wait for the pictures to finish loading on the Classic’s store page.

[brittle tiger]

Wait, I had it muted, they said what?

[craggy torrent]

why is the mini code not working!!!

[surreal gyro]

Patience is key 🤣 lmfao. You won't lose anything with patience

[merry mango]

i mnot gonna say it

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-gawrsh-disney-im-shy-gif-10117163887584241470

[brittle tiger]

I know that, I was saying that as an expression of surprise.

[merry mango]

you didnt add the emoji

[tame raft]

I had a Welsh history documentary playing in the background. Suddenly I was wondering where a guy named Rhodri Mawr learned that word during the dark ages

[merry mango]

😮

this one

[brittle tiger]

Anyways, here you go. Those images under the big one is what you need to look for.

[nova skiff]

more like 2 days lol

[brittle tiger]

I refuse to use emoji’s.

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

what about gifs

[brittle tiger]

Before anyone asks, this is just an example, since I honestly still haven’t decided what I want.

[merry mango]

this gif would look great on the classic's oled

[brittle tiger]

I thought I was clear cut going for either Classic6 for function, or Retro for a PSX theme with custom buttons.

Then my eye kept going back to the Atomic Purple, since the Atomic Purple is the first GBC I ever got and modded.

[surreal gyro]

If I was ordering it definitely would be purple classic and transparent blue or whatever flip 2

Transparent purple. If there's a solid option.

[brittle tiger]

You know what? Fuck it, I’ll do Atomic Purple.

I can just use black PSX buttons for it if I decide I still want to do that.

[tame raft]

Wait...in theory this thing would be able to play some android games... by which I mean it could play the only game I play on android Stardew Valley. This thing suddenly is looking far more interesting to me. Might get one and a big sd card and load it down with games, movies, music, and ebooks for a little take everywhere device. Been trying to use my phone less and this may work for that.

[fossil echo]

I'm disappointed the classic 6 layout only came in one colorway

6 layout in Kiwi and they would have my money

[heavy wren]

I ended up getting both 😅

[tame raft]

Yeah, I mean I get why they limited it to the Saturn colorway as it probably wont be a big seller and would complicate the production process alot. But on the other hand I really want a blue one with six buttons

[heavy wren]

Will figure which I like better later

[frank grove]

Is the only use for the 6 button playing saturn games?

[fossil echo]

I forget but couldn't they be reassigned to hot keys at least in retroarch?

[blissful reef]

Additional action buttons and also could improve genesis gameplay

[tame raft]

You could play N64 as well, you will be limited to using the dpad as a joystick of course but should be playable. Lots of Genesis titles also made use of the six button controller released later for different functions.

[blissful reef]

I really want the classic 6, just need to see if that 4gb option makes its way to any reviewers, but i have a feeling they will mostly get the best model

[surreal gyro]

They don't even know what their production process is 🤣

[tame raft]

Seems like they dont even know what their screens are...though I am not an expert on the subject and still think the mini debacle may be a bit overblown as someone who doesnt use shaders, or own a mini

[surreal gyro]

I'd agree. Mostly. Except they are finally, after a few failed attempts at minimal effort, doing the right thing. And only because they have a new product coming out they need to sell.

[novel crane]

I mean, I was gonna just grab a 512gb, use half on games and the other half on music

Making it a EDC device

[tame raft]

Retroid response has been less than spectacular for sure. Honestly I dont think I would have cared much about the screen issues on its own. But I dont like the way they have handled the CS this time around.

[surreal gyro]

Couldn't agree more. I believe that's 90% of the customer base right there.

Then again. Isn't stopping people from throwing hundreds at them again. Lol

I hate how retroid doesn't even show you the real thing until after you've paid. Haha

Like...I don't know what it really looks like. Or what it can do but...shut up and take my money.

[tame raft]

Its really starting to grow on me as an option. And with my iphone 12 mini starting to have issues a $130 shipped device is a MUCH cheaper option than a new iphone

[tame raft]

I have just enough self control to (typically) avoid buying devices immediately after launch, but I am a sucker for the discords marketplace and buying devices from people with buyers remorse a month or two after launch.

[frank grove]

Im guineapigging san andreas day one. Taking one for the team

[novel crane]

This is why I wait until reviews and dev units are out (and after a few months)

[surreal gyro]

Oh. I love this marketplace. I don't pay shipping or taxes. I let fomo suckers do that

Especially with retroid, who hasn't had a successful launch in years 🤣

[tame raft]

Og god, I appreciate your sacrifice

[frank grove]

I guess in theory, between it being touchscreen, and mapping some stuff to hotkeys it should be doable

So help me god if they release a pocket classic 2 with a joystick in like 3 months

[brittle tiger]

Oh, there we go. We just found out how they can screw up the Classic.

[novel crane]

Tbh, i would skip the joystick one hard

If one was to exist

[brittle tiger]

…Eh, I don’t care about having a stick, I’ll be fine with it as is.

[novel crane]

Gimme flat bois

[frank grove]

If its recessed nicely

Like a more affordable pocket dmg

[merry mango]

If I’m being honest, I’m not the biggest fan of how the aya dmg looks. I actually think this classic looks nicer

I only wanted it for the oled screen

[frank grove]

To each their own. I suppose maybe it "looks" better without a stick, but the amount of additional options you open by adding the stick makes it worthwhile imo

[merry mango]

Oh definitely. I’m just talking aesthetics here

[fossil echo]

I have to agree handhelds without the sticks do look a lot better (from a pure aesthetics standpoint). The brick is a really good example of that.

[surreal gyro]

Definitely more pocket friendly with no sticks

Not that I see anyone throwing that expensive thing in a pocket lol

[frank grove]

No doubt

[merry mango]

I’m also talking about the block cut-out looking thing at the bottom left of the dmg. Don’t like it

Also the colorways aren’t so great

[fossil echo]

Black didn't come out so great

[frank grove]

I think it does a great job capturing the nostalgia of the og

[fossil echo]

they knew what they were doing when they locked that behind the most expensive model

[keen light]

is retro color only limited to pre-order?

[frank grove]

For sure, odd that retroid didnt do similar for the 6 button

Like they couldve gotten away with it

[merry mango]

I would’ve bought it

[fossil echo]

lol they could have done it with some of the colorways too

[merry mango]

Actually it would’ve solved my dilemma lmao

So I wouldn’t have to buy 6 button and retro separately

[frank grove]

Lol wait did you buy both?

[heavy wren]

Yes

Not intentionally

But yes both

[fossil echo]

dang they are starting to sell out allrdy

[frank grove]

So by accident lol

[lyric flax]

Iirc I think the D1100s aren’t available until April??

[merry mango]

nah just the 6 button

[modest mantle]

so are people thinking the 6 RAM is a nobrainer?

[fossil echo]

the 4GB are the ones sold out

[lyric flax]

Gotta go with the wacky colors

[heavy wren]

Basically

[nocturne gazelle]

its double the internal memory as well for peanuts

[heavy wren]

I gotta kiwi

N 6 button

[merry mango]

i see it as 128gb internal

[twin shale]

Anyone preorder?

[frank grove]

Yea its like 8% more, no brainer

[merry mango]

i want to get the classic before anyone around me does, so i can shove it in their stupid faces

[frank grove]

It like wall st speculation

Waiting for a positive review from russ

[merry mango]

buy now, think later

(just cancel the preorder if it sucks)

i only hope the tubers get a video out before the last day of cancellation

if theres no videos, im gonna cancel

[frank grove]

Yea wonder when theyre going to get theirs

[fossil echo]

Stubbs mentioned in his recent vid he picked his review unit color, probably won't be much longer

[frank grove]

But would the manufacturer just make a few for reviews, then run a separate production run so close?

[fossil echo]

well best way to tell is when did the rp5 reviews come out

but also mid april isnt far away they could already be in production

[frank grove]

his impression video was nov 3rd, and they started shipping nov 14th

preorder was sept 9th

[nocturne gazelle]

so like a month and two weeks

[summer marsh]

called it 😎

[fossil echo]

so like a week or two before launch

[gusty socket]

RP5 was slow because they only make devices according to order and they did the RPMinis first, and then had issues with the android 13 version that the vocal minority begged for so they had to delay the RP5 a bit longer

[summer marsh]

well I just got home and was gonna order one, but I can't decide 4 or 6 button

[modest mantle]

i'd go with 4, just cause i mostly play 4 stuff

[summer marsh]

yeah I do want a portable saturn but leaning towards 4 button

[modest mantle]

like i'd play way more NES,SNES,GB,GBC,GBA,PS1 than Saturn

if you can handle the mindgame and not notice it, 6 would be fine tho

[summer marsh]

wait you're not ordering one are you

[modest mantle]

i'd just struggle

probably not, kind of waiting for them to maybe sell out and then go, aw shucks

[frank grove]

Just go 4 button unless you want a saturn focused device my guess

[modest mantle]

I def wouldn't pre-order a saturn one, but that's just me. I know it'll play those other systems fine, but the fact that it might struggle to play saturn, just means the buttons might be taunting you

[frank grove]

all the colors of the 64 are sold out

[modest mantle]

of course you can always cancel after some reviews

[frank grove]

just retro and 6 button left

thats wild not just paying the extra 10 bucks, but to each their own

[fossil echo]

maybe they made less of the 4gb?

[summer marsh]

I kind of think so too, but also a lot of people just want to play like gb and snes

[fossil echo]

it really doesnt make sense to not just spend the 10 more

[merry mango]

im not seeing any of them sold out?

[frank grove]

fair enough, just seems like overkill to go for such a pricy device for those systems

but to each their own

[frank grove]

do they not show unavailable for you?

[merry mango]

theyre all ADD TO CART

[summer marsh]

good cause I still can't decide

[summer marsh]

did you order da 6?

[merry mango]

sure did

ill order retro if the 6 button bugs me

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/spanky-throwing-money-cash-money-our-gang-little-rascals-gif-17781337

[modest mantle]

they must have added more stock

cause they were sold out

[merry mango]

i keep forgetting this is an android device

[modest mantle]

but aren't now

[summer marsh]

I haven't, it bothers me that I want it so much

[merry mango]

i loved how simple the anbernics were

but i guess ill load up ES-DE on this

[merry mango]

its not aya dmg moneys lol

[fossil echo]

is there a good chance linux will end up on these?

[frank grove]

Oh yea like within the last few minutes

[summer marsh]

well, if you're buying two you're getting there

[modest mantle]

yeah, load up ES-DE and then switch it to launch as home screen after config

you'll never even know it's android if you do it right

have retroarch close content with CLI

[merry mango]

ITS ON SALE?!

[modest mantle]

haha, of course it is

sneaky ayaneo

[summer marsh]

even cheaper on droix tho its preorder

I think its $379

[pseudo dove]

Still no pics of the real device!?

[merry mango]

whats droix

[fossil echo]

aww for a minute I thought the screen was fine

[pseudo dove]

Just weird they did with the flip

[summer marsh]

https://droix.net/product/ayaneo-pocket-dmg/

[merry mango]

gad damnit....

[summer marsh]

gotta wait a bit tho

[modest mantle]

hehe, i just bought a DMG too, another reason i'm probably holding off

[merry mango]

can you change colorway? or only the white?

nvm

[modest mantle]

i like the little things, like wheel for volume, lots of mod/hotkey buttons

[merry mango]

gad damnit...

[modest mantle]

video out

heh

[merry mango]

STEREO SOUND

[summer marsh]

dmg the goat screw the haters

[junior fox]

DMG feels real nice in hand

[modest mantle]

people seem to like it in the DMG channel

dudes playing switch games on external monitor, heh

[frank grove]

https://tenor.com/view/screech-trade-fantasy-saved-by-the-bell-hiding-gif-12912118

[fossil echo]

Yea I will say the one nice thing that came from buying a pocket dmg is that it's been easy to say no to other things I've wanted like a gkd bubble , 34XX, and now hopefull this 🤞

[modest mantle]

haha, i'm sure i'll sell it at some point, maybe for the Classic 2 if it has a stick, that would have swung me away

[merry mango]

welp. if the tubers say either the flip2 or classic sucks, im cancelling and maybe get the dmg.....

and here i thought i was done with ayaneo...

[modest mantle]

yeah, i think dmg will be in ayaneos lineup for a while, seems popular

[summer marsh]

get the dmg, live your best life

classic is for lowly peasants like myself

[merry mango]

the black colorway is fine/ its the base white one i find not appealing

[fossil echo]

the finger prints are so bad tho I have to keep a cloth nearby for it

[merry mango]

and i do prefer aayaneo's dpads...

[modest mantle]

That's my goal honestly. Main thing pulling me back is the pokemon colorway on the classic, but maybe i can dye the DMG...

[summer marsh]

honestly if dmg was just a bit less I'd order it, I can't justify $600 cad

or I guess $550 on droix

[modest mantle]

yeah, even at that price it's still pricey

[merry mango]

dont tell me the cad

[frank grove]

Agreed, dmg is just so much

[merry mango]

i have no use for such a processor on a 3.92" screen

[modest mantle]

But it means i'll probably stop following/favoriting every vertical handheld. Might save my wallet in the long run 😆

[fossil echo]

it really is hard to recommend at it's price point ..... but im a fellow dweeb and a one device to rule all 4:3 had high appeal to me

[summer marsh]

did it live up to the hype

[fossil echo]

I love it but something like this will be hard to fix down the road so theres that too

[pseudo dove]

Am I going mad, doesn’t anyone else find it strange we had pics of the flip but still nothing for classic?

[frank grove]

Will be nice to cut down, Ill only have this classic, steamdeck, and an a30

[merry mango]

i will wait for stubbs to place the classic and dmg side by side

[modest mantle]

Yeah... that's the big question. Everyone says it's built solid, and so far there's been hardly any hardware complaints, but it's not like there will be enough sold where 3rd parties will be dumping replacement part options

Worst case I'll rebuild it through the power of 3D printing XD

[frank grove]

for size comparison?

[merry mango]

yeah

[summer marsh]

arent the screens the same?

[merry mango]

the screens yes, but the overall body

[frank grove]

@merry mango

[merry mango]

ah

nah i really like this classic. plus the 6 buttons

[modest mantle]

yeah, if you want 6, this is the option

[merry mango]

now i can play cps3 properly

[summer marsh]

hopefully saturn too with those performance cores

[merry mango]

i have nothing to play on saturn?

[summer marsh]

I don't want to be controversial, but cps2 library >>>>>>>> cps3

[frank grove]

it has to, dont think theyd make that layout and not be able to play it

[modest mantle]

wow, ok, they're not that different

[frank grove]

sega rally and die hard arcade are all you need

[merry mango]

only great cps3 game is sf3

[summer marsh]

cps2 library is stacked

[merry mango]

model2 emulator on rp5

using winlator

why play saturn port? get the real deal

[modest mantle]

for some reason i thought the classic didn't have a border around the screen

but i guess it has the same as the DMG pretty much

[frank grove]

sold my odin 2, winlator was way more effort than i was able to tinker with, steamdeck has been perfect

[summer marsh]

Saturn port actually plays waaaaay better with a controller. like they tuned it to perfection

so saturn is better than arcade unless you have a cabinet or at least a good wheel

sega rally I mean ofc

play ps2 port of sega rally and you'll see what I mean. it looks amazing but it really twitchy and just not as good

[merry mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJT3EkPw2s

[frank grove]

tbh dont even play sega rally on saturn that much, the dreamcast version is better

[summer marsh]

listen, I will respect your opinion but in no way is sega rally 2 better than sega rally

[frank grove]

and imo, colin mcrae 2 is a better rally game

[frank grove]

see my user name, I am the authority on rally

lol respect

[tight token]

Can I get a rally game with a soundtrack that slaps as hard as Daytona USA?

Daytonaaaaaaaaaaa

[merry mango]

was rally2 a model 3 game?

[frank grove]

But for real, I just prefer the more modern graphics of

[summer marsh]

https://youtu.be/1J9ffRgADRU

[frank grove]

Dc

[tight token]

So fantastic

[summer marsh]

I recently played Sega Rally 2 in an arcade in tokyo, it was legit awesome especially with all the hydraulics

[merry mango]

since i found out about the model2 and model3 emulators, ive been playing them. i found model3 games were inferior to model2 games?

[tight token]

So jealous

[frank grove]

Ok well yea, that is going to be amazing

[merry mango]

i also found VF2 wasnt as fun as i remembered, and VF3 is better than i remembered lol

[summer marsh]

isnt vf3 model3?

[frank grove]

I remember playing an arcade ferrari game like 20 years ago that had 3 monitors, an actual clutch pedal and shifter

[merry mango]

yeah, basically the only model 3 game i enjoyed

but rally 2 felt sterile to me. compared to rally 1?

[summer marsh]

f355 challenge?

[merry mango]

thats naomi

[frank grove]

YES!

[summer marsh]

yeah it's just not as good, they really nailed the controls in sega rally 1

[tight token]

Think I played that on DC lol

[summer marsh]

did you know you can still play it online for dreamcast? they host game nights over at dreamcast-talk

all this sega talk really has me looking at the classic 6 lmao

[merry mango]

rally needs 6 buttons?

for the shifter?

[summer marsh]

nah m8 it just feels right lol

[frank grove]

Thats pretty cool, for me it was all about that arcade setup, hard to capture that magic on a handheld

For real though, if you like older rally games, give colin mcrae 2 for psx a shot

[fossil echo]

SEXY

[queen glade]

how much are these things going to be

[frank grove]

Less arcadey, but not full sim

[tight token]

Having arc flashbacks in a good way

[merry mango]

i just want outrun 2006 arcade

[summer marsh]

yeah which is why I wanted the sd865 lol

[merry mango]

why has no one tested lindbergh loader on snapdragon

[late rock]

All black skin please

[summer marsh]

oh I meant the ps2 version

is the arcade better?

[merry mango]

arcade is arcade perfect lol

[summer marsh]

fair, though I guess I like the extras

[merry mango]

hows the ps2 port?

ive only played x360 and pc

or maybe ps3

[summer marsh]

it's great. I had the xbox one back in the day but enjoy the ps2 one since its easier to emulate

the coast 2 coast mode is great as well

[merry mango]

oh yeah there was the psp one too

someone had it running on the brick. was that you

[summer marsh]

haha no I would never run psp on a tiny 4:3 screen 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱

[frank grove]

not with that attitude

I squint and play vice city stories on the a30