Retroid Pocket Classic

[turbid haven]

We need some better things to compare this to as some of them have been outright terrible 😄

[brittle tiger]

Even if it didn’t start out as intentional malpractice (if they somehow believed the seller in saying it was a 4:3 screen with a weird shape due to support components), it definitely became that the second they looked into the screen, very likely realized the actual issue, and proceeded to lie and cover their asses for a mistake.

[distant ledge]

I never liked Joey, but I feel like this time I have to agree with him 😛 also, it's not hard being clever when people before you made mistakes you don't need making

[stone ice]

honestly i don't put any responsibility on the youtubers unless their point was to be extremely technical, if a company says 1280x960 i just believe that

[brittle tiger]

And it’s outright even worse since it unironically would’ve been way better if they just properly advertised it as the LG Wing screen from the start.

[turbid haven]

pretty sure you don't have to bold your messages, anyone with a brain knows what you're trying to say 😄

[stone ice]

hey, we made a handheld with the literal same parts but without borking it with software, feel free to buy it again

[brittle tiger]

Just empathizing the fact that it’s, to me, legit the stupidest mistake I’ve ever seen any company make in this community. And that is a very close competition.

[turbid haven]

You might have mentioned that a couple of times ❤️

[stone ice]

for me the stupidest is still rog ally frying sd cards, just because it's a huge company

but this one just seems like they were trying to lie to people for literally no reason and it backfired

[distant ledge]

I'm trying to understand ... the manufacturing isn't made by Retroid? so they didn't know the screen was hidden behind the body?

[brittle tiger]

They could literally ditch the Mini V2 right now, and I genuinely do not doubt that they would have enough funds to properly either send people a replacement screen with the full resolution, have people ship for free their device to replace with that new mini screen, or fully refund people who are legit unhappy with the previous 2 options.

[stone ice]

if retroid doesn't manufacture them, then what exactly does retroid do

of course they did and they hid the screen on purpose

[distant ledge]

yeah, I wondered about that myself 😛

[brittle tiger]

Same thing MagicX does.

[stone ice]

also they said they were funding a one million dollar screen and that the owner took a mortgage on his house to cover the costs

...the screen you literally have and that you have been ruining?

[stone ice]

well, a chip is a closed box with a sticker on it, then magic x makes the shell around it

[distant ledge]

Retroid's Bizarre Adventure

[gusty socket]

It’s hard to trust them now. They could have just lied and are remaking the shell to use the full resolution of the screen. But David said they want the best 4:3 oled screen as their goal for the Mini, which is not what we want

[stone ice]

making a shell that purposely hides the screen is a different thing

[brittle tiger]

Nope, the rk3562 uses a different pin-out from the rk3326, and the mislabeled one is no different either. They would’ve been able to check from the factory after the XU10 if they were the guys actually manufacturing the things and not just using some third party to put the handhelds together, which is what most handheld companies do in general.

[distant ledge]

what was the thought process behind this... ?

[brittle tiger]

Idiocy. Pure, utter, idiocy.

[distant ledge]

I don't see any practical use

[stone ice]

just having a 4:3 oled screen that 2x integer scales 480p content

(which is a lie, it doesn't)

[distant ledge]

but isn't the original screen close to a square aspect ratio?

[delicate ermine]

31:27 or roughly 8:7

[brittle tiger]

It’s 31:27, because it’s literally the LG Wing’s Bottom screen.

[brittle tiger]

The same screen in the classic.

[stone ice]

it is close to a square, but if you crop the top and bottom to make it 4:3, it doesn't have enough pixels to be a 2x scale of 480p, it's only 930p

[distant ledge]

looks like a square to me... 🤷

[stone ice]

squareish

[distant ledge]

gotcha

[brittle tiger]

Nope, it’s 928p.

Aka, the literal exact same resolution people were guessing when they first noticed the scaling issue and were blaming the pentile layout.

[stone ice]

where does 628p come from?

[brittle tiger]

It was literally there from the start.

[delicate ermine]

it's 1240x928, not 628 😂

[stone ice]

i knew about the pentile layout issue but from what i understand the 1240x1080 screen is legit that resolution

[brittle tiger]

Mistyped it and didn’t notice.

[stone ice]

the guy that tore it down said 930p and not 928p, but both work for me

it's just not the advertised resolution

[distant ledge]

so Chinese retro handheld companies are like their zoos... <_<'

[eager rain]

yeah pentile layout maybe isn't perfect for retro gaming but it's not by itself a big issue

using a butchered up screen running at a fake res is tho

[stone ice]

honestly i wouldn't put it over anbernic to do this, but i do believe they would find a better solution

[delicate ermine]

I mean, doesn't really makes a difference if it's 930 or 928, 928 is just what we have been upscaling from I guess

[stone ice]

retroid just suffers of way too much communication and promise while doing shitty business underneath

[delicate ermine]

hiding part of the screen under a bezel is just dumb, Nintendo is allowed to do it, Retro handhelds not so much

[late rock]

Someone should do what retroid did but instead do it with a 1:1 screen to make a 2ds clone

[eager rain]

anbernic just actually builds handhelds around the screens that are available instead of trying to fake it lol

[stone ice]

that's fair lol

but i mean a technical issue of this kind

[brittle tiger]

Oh I’m one of the guys who can personally say they’ll go with “sure, we have fixed screens, the bad ones were just reviewer units and domestic, but the problem was solved for international onwards”, only to send screens with the issues they promised were fixed.

Then they’d say “ok, we messed up and we’ll send fixed screens”, only to then send replacement screens with even worse scaling issues than the initial ones.

Then they’d ask for you to ship it to them to replace, and the one you get back will have the same scaling issues again, never actually fixing the issue.

[stone ice]

you mean anbernic? i think they'll either fix the issue, refund you or just don't care about it and not do anything at all

not whatever this mess is

[modest mantle]

Don't get me wrong. If I bought at launch I'd be hunting for a refund. Doesn't mean I wouldn't use that refund to buy another one for less second hand tho 😄

[ebon forum]

Key word if, no they didn't know

[brittle tiger]

I’m one of the RG Cube owners that had to spend literally almost 2 months fighting Anbernic just to finally get one with less light bleed than the first screen I got.

[brittle tiger]

And the first screen had freaking dead pixels, which is why I couldn’t just swap back to it when the first replacement screen had even worse light bleed.

[modest mantle]

Feel bad I sold mine sometimes. Had almost no light bleed 😔

[brittle tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/rachel-envy-jealous-friends-not-jealous-gif-16503669

[wintry pecan]

thought process was probly that the 4:3 OLED wanters were loud af

[brittle tiger]

That was a whole 2 months that could’ve had one less stressful annoyance.

[wintry pecan]

saw market, took it

hindsight 20/20, they would have been fine using the whole screen

and no issues

[glass orbit]

it would be such a dumb deliberate decision that i'm not sure it was deliberate

[thick isle]

They probably thought it was a good idea.

[brittle tiger]

Well think of it like this, they could’ve somehow done it accidentally, and then the second they found out decided to lie and cover their stupidity at not noticing that, instead of fessing up and fixing this way earlier.

Basically, it’s the coverup that was the worst part, not the crime. And arguably the crime being this stupid is arguably what makes this cover-up even worse.

[brittle tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/glass-onion-no-its-just-dumb-just-dumb-so-dumb-its-smart-gif-27384042

There we go.

[glass orbit]

yeah i'm thinking a supplier promised them custom 4:3 oled panels and then gave them... this
and they tried to make it work anyway

[wintry pecan]

it really all depends on how their manufacturing is set up
whether or not its deliberate
if they get the fronts preassembled with that cover on, its hard to tell
especially if the manufacturer says "yes this screen is able to display the resolution you asked for", which IS a statement thats open to interpretation only if you catch it

so it really depends how much assembly retroid actually does

[brittle tiger]

Oh I was already pointing out to Kyoka that they likely aren’t manufacturing their own handhelds, which is what everyone else does (most of the time, these companies are just the designers), but it’s the coverup that makes it worse, regardless of whether it was accidental or not.

[wintry pecan]

like in hindsight, yeah thats bigger than its supposed to be, but without the current knowledge we have now, we would just assume theres panel electronics in the extra space, not more screen

[nocturne gazelle]

usually the ribbon cable is folded over and sits on the back of the panel so there usually is about 1-2mm on one side to allow a loose bend

so there really isnt much extra electronics panel as it were

[junior fox]

Has this revelation convinced anybody to skip these next devices?

[rough depot]

I mean the 30 of us here ranting might stop and think about it, but sales really depend on how youtubers portray things imo

We're the super users, not the "I want to play some games and that device looks good"

and that type will buy anyway

because it's the new thing

[nocturne gazelle]

I mean flip2 wouldnt be the first device I was interested in that I think ill let the beta testers deal with it

[rough depot]

The only part I am unsure about on that guy is really the hinge. The screen and the controls should be a known quantity

[nocturne gazelle]

ngl tho I dont buy many devices and flip2 if it doesnt flop is pretty much endgame for what I want

[glass orbit]

tbh the new era of retroid devices is kinda targeting those who want a top tier screen

[nocturne gazelle]

Yeah mostly just the hinge I tend to keep things a long time if its going break in short order I dont want it

[rough depot]

Or the power without paying Odin 2 prices

[nocturne gazelle]

But even then retroid uses pretty hard to replace batteries so im kinda not keen on that either and yes I do keep things long enough for that to matter

[rough depot]

If someone tells them, this will play gamecube and ps2 and some switch and it's 100 less than the next best thing

[glass orbit]

i don't think rp5 is really more powerful than rp4+

[rough depot]

It's a significan't bump with the turnip drivers, plus the linux option

It's pretty documented

but I hear you

[glass orbit]

definitely seems like "high res oled" is the main selling point for their latest devices tho

[wintry pecan]

yeh the paper differences are small but the applied differences have been pretty high

[glass orbit]

i mean it's the first thing they reveal

[wintry pecan]

not for nothing, with all the issues, the mini still plays games really good

[junior fox]

5 is quite a bit nicer than 4P in my experience

In terms of ability to do the thing, I mean

[modest mantle]

They really knocked it out of the park with the 5. I was impressed

[junior fox]

Same here. It’s an incredible device

[sage silo]

Zune and the original ipods did top

[hexed sigil]

I was curious about the Flip 2 but now no way in hell am I dropping money on anything Retroid makes without hearing what the community at large has to say about it first.
It sucks because the RP3+ was a great device at the time and Retroid generated a lot of goodwill by squeezing as much out of the T-618 as they did.
Now? All gone.

[modest mantle]

iPods cause they had that honking plug for the bottom 😆

[sage silo]

IPhone moved to bottom with the 5 I believe

[modest mantle]

Was that when they moved to lightning?

[sage silo]

Yeah

[modest mantle]

Yeah. I mean it makes sense. That port. And the housing for it. Basically took up the whole bottom

[sage silo]

My old windows phone did headphone at the top too. I think the only one I've had with headphones at the bottom other than the iPhone 5 is an older LG touch screen feature phone

Something like 2011ish

[modest mantle]

Windows with the zune and first phones were def on an old-school mp3 player kick

Yeah. Think it was universally decided that bottom was just better. Once charging circuitry and connectors got usb-c sized

Batteries used to be stored in the bottoms too

[sage silo]

I used to keep my devices face up in my pocket so top was useful in that way

[modest mantle]

We're at least not as centered as they are now

[sage silo]

That said most of my headphones back then had right angled connectors

[modest mantle]

Yeah. I mean you had to if you planned to use headphones. More natural to keep them head down if your gonna reach in, pull them out and use tho

[modest mantle]

Yeah. That's def a case where top is arguably better

[sage silo]

The move to headphones at the bottom made straight connectors make more sense so I tried to avoid right angled ones

[modest mantle]

Id still be fine using angled on the bottom. But It also wouldn't really interfere with how I hold these things

[modest mantle]

Yeah. I know they used to add rubber ridges to relieve stress on the bend

[sage silo]

I find it often awkward to keep from flopping weirdly but I don't even use headphones when mobile anymore

[modest mantle]

BT replaced pretty much everything for me. Loss of SD card slots was more disappointing for phones

[sage silo]

I use the built in speakers or just mute my handhelds generally

And for phones, Bluetooth

I do have a pair with a udb c dongle if I must use sound on like my Retroid or something

I do miss my old mp3 player. Horizontal device with the headphone on the left side and mini usb at the bottom lol

[dusty marsh]

This should of been used and released for the classic instead of the mini.

[twin shale]

Retroid actually became worse than anbernic for the shit they pulled lmao

Dude fuck them lol, and their still boning mini returns

[brittle tiger]

Nah, they’re only just as bad right now to me, and they’ve for some insane reason only now chosen to become this bad for the Mini.

Of course, I’m apparently the only guy who still gives Anbernic shit for having the same general lack of Quality Control for even their budget handhelds, so take my word with a grain of salt.

[brittle tiger]

It just sucks much worse because of the hard drop Retroid did to reach this point, while we’ve never expected anything better from Anbernic.

[twin shale]

Here, my stance is I'd rather know what I'm getting with anbernic vs getting lied to a ton, including with things that bone me out of money lol

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, my stance with these companies in general is that I’ll only call their handhelds good if I can recommend them to someone else without worry, and while Retroid fell off hard from that, Anbernic was never even in the running for it.

[wintry pecan]

its the lieing that hurts the most

the actual issue isnt that bad

[delicate ermine]

it's pretty bad, they killed my dream device over this bullshit

[brittle tiger]

Exactly, although the actual issue became a hell of a lot worse for me when it turned out that the lying led to the screen being “a shitty fake 4:3 that has a ton of issues due to them forcing a different resolution than what it actually has” and we could’ve had a way cheaper alternate to the DMG before the DMG was even fully available and shipped.

[coral forum]

Its funny I remember people joking about the screen being bigger than it actually was when we first saw the design and it ended up being true

[stone ice]

i think the dmg released a month or two before the mini

oh, other way around

[brittle tiger]

The DMG was properly released and shipping on January 12 2025.

[delicate ermine]

which kinda sucks, but wouldn't be as bad if the available screen real estate matched the advertised 1280x960, instead of being 1240x930

[stone ice]

if it actually was 1280x960 there would be no issue or anything to complain about at all

that's the advertised res

[delicate ermine]

I mean, personally I would still be kinda pissed to be robbed of my OLED Cube

[brittle tiger]

If they advertised the proper res of the actual screen it would’ve been fine.

[delicate ermine]

especially as having more vertical screen real estate for non 4:3 doesn't hurts

[brittle tiger]

Hell, a lot of people would’ve even preferred it, like you.

[stone ice]

you could say it's stupid, but it wouldn't be something to complain about to retroid

saying 960 when it's 928/930 is just bad

[brittle tiger]

Well now it is. Because they both lied to customers about it being 4:3 and ruined a perfectly good OLED Cube.

[delicate ermine]

I mean, yeah it wouldn't be something to complain about after buying the device, but I would have complained because I certainly prefer the additional screen real estate for non 4:3 content, especially as black bars on OLED panels are quite a non-issue

[coral forum]

I've never bought a retroid product before, I've always stopped short of ordering one because of some issue that would always seem to crop up with each release like bad triggers , hinges breaking, or them shipping the wrong color, Hopefully nothing goes wrong with this and the flip 2 which would be my endgame device but I just know something is probably going to happen

[stone ice]

to me the timing of the rp classic with all this drama seems to line up a bit too well

like suddenly they start openly using the dmg screen that they've had for ages

[glass orbit]

hm... could also be a way to use up the stock they have of those screens since they probably don't expect to keep selling mini v1

[dusty marsh]

Think what you want of Retroid but that metallic 2s is a work of art

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, that only works if they stopped selling the Mini in the first place and took down the storepage for it.

[eager rain]

I wish we'd gotten an interesting colour for it instead of gunmetal

[brittle tiger]

Eh, I’m not gonna go into conspiracy theories.

Although that’s mainly since I already don’t want Prudis going overboard on the fact that we’ve had these issues crop up literally every Friday night (so literally right when Retroid would already be closing up shop for the weekend and not be able to not actually respond) for the past 3 weeks.

(Personally though, I think it’s legit just awful luck or even a karmic jinx from them pulling this shit in the first place and using up all their chances to say “we’re working on it”, so now they’re unable to keep pretending when people actually catch them in the lie).

[dusty marsh]

There was a vote for which color they were going to go with.

[eager rain]

yeah and people voted wrong lol

[glass orbit]

they probably still wanna sell the already built ones of those at least 😛

[dusty marsh]

Wouldn't be the first time, sadly.

[eager rain]

should've done ranked choice, I think the 'an interesting color' crowd would've picked the other interesting colours over grey

but the interesting color crowd vote was split 3 ways

[coral forum]

Yeah if I could go back I'd change my vote

[stone ice]

why didn't they pick half blue half green like normal people

[brittle tiger]

They shouldn’t be doing that and instead focusing on getting them delaminated to fix the issue by showing the full screen.

Before anyone says anything, yes I know they likely can’t delaminate the screen from the lens at a practical rate of time/speed, I’m talking about getting the whole screen assembly removed and using everything else, including the top shell, with the new lens+screen combo.

[dusty marsh]

I like the gun metal but I also like black handhelds so I'm no fun.

[late rock]

What does retroid do with the minis they receive? I feel like they should have a refurbished option on their store

[merry mango]

they sell it as new

[late rock]

Based on some posts I've seen you're probably right

[ashen vault]

$5 discount for scratches

ofc people that returned it had $45 deducted to return it

[high hemlock]

Or just reuse the parts for the V2

[late rock]

Well the screens would have to be discarded

[high hemlock]

Put them in the classic

[late rock]

Absolutely not

Discounted minis on their store would be a good way to make back some of the money they're losing

[high hemlock]

Don't think they would want to have anything more to do with the Mini (V1) right now tbh. And like....would anyone even trust their refurbish process at this point even if they do this?

[delicate ermine]

I mean, honestly, just offload the refurbished ones domestically

[late rock]

I mean outside of this discord there's plenty of people who don't really notice the issues with the screen (myself included).

[delicate ermine]

they shouldn't want to deal with western return policies over this

[late rock]

That's not to say the issues with the screen don't matter, but I think it would be a pretty desirable option for many if they gave it a discount

[wintry pecan]

i literally cant find it to save my life in a 3d game tbh

and i know what to look for

[eager rain]

this is the only explanation for the 'depreciation fee' nonsense

[late rock]

I really tried when I was watching Russ's video and I just couldn't honestly

[plain flax]

is it about the screen issue, or the way they handled it? the way they reported the resolution, the way they deleted comments about it, the way they went silent for months, or how now that theyre offering refunds, they're also taking pictures of minor signs of use to deny the full refund amount

[delicate ermine]

it was kinda visible in Russ video, but it's funny how he didn't show any grid overlays which make this the most obvious

[late rock]

I would say the general consensus is that the main problem has been all of their communication and what they have said leading up to their return policy.

[delicate ermine]

the main problem now is straight up fraud for advertising this as 1280x960, while it is physically impossible due to the screen only being 1240x930(1080)

[rose dove]

If you put bezels over pixels on the top and bottom it adds them onto the sides.

[delicate ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[late rock]

I guess that really depends on how charitable you want to be in your interpretation of what Retroid has said

I honestly don't think they were responsible for initially screwing with the screen, that was probably their supplier

[delicate ermine]

well, the banks won't be charitable and just charge back on them over this if they refuse to cover all cost of returns and fully refund people

doesn't matter if Retroid got scammed by the screen supplier or not

[late rock]

I mean

It does somewhat

[delicate ermine]

it should teach them a lesson of being way more cautious and stopping to sell devices if there are issues

[rose dove]

They just happened to announce a device using the same screen immediately after

Clearly retroid was hustled

[gusty socket]

I don’t think anything is clear until they make a statement

[merry mango]

So the only way to 100% get a brand new retroid device is to preorder or buy first batch

[summer marsh]

I'd be dumb not to pre-order the classic

[merry mango]

have you decided which one

[summer marsh]

probably teal what about you?

[eager rain]

why is that?

[summer marsh]

I was just making a joke to his comment ' the only way to 100% get a brand new retroid device is to preorder or buy first batch'

though I think I am going to order one on monday

[merry mango]

Has to be 6 button

[summer marsh]

nice, I want that one too. but I can't justify both, not even close lol

[junior fox]

I want to scoop one of these things, but the fact that they apparently think their customers are approximately as intelligent as the average dolphin kinda bugs me

What other shenanigans are they going to get up to, I wonder?

[merry mango]

I hope anbernic announces a sp with the 3.92” oled on Monday

[late rock]

I mean, we already know what's in the new products (other than the classic chip), so I can't really imagine much that could go wrong besides just general issues

I have to be honest, all of this doomposting is starting to feel a bit melodramatic

[candid jasper]

People are going to piling on Retroid for days to come. People love a good pile on

[late rock]

Yeah they really do

[eager rain]

do you think everyone should just hold hands and forgive retroid without them actually fixing their cockup first?

[late rock]

I don't know if it's about forgiving them, this isn't a relationship after all it's a transaction. Retroid has had relatively good build quality RP3 onwards (barring the flip of course) and usually resolved any major issues. This whole 180 where suddenly Retroid can never be trusted again and treating them like the new Ayaneo just feels like a bit much.

To be fully transparent I've never purchased a Retroid product, but for all intents and purposes the mini seems to be an outlier.

[candid jasper]

I've had a 2+, 3, 3+, Flip, 2S, 4P, and Mini although currently all I have is the Mini (and some Funtastic 2/2+). I'll probably still be buying Retroid

[lyric flax]

Eh I mean their track record ain’t the greatest but this is the worst they’ve handled a situation

This isn’t a good omen

[candid jasper]

Eh it's the first really shitty thing they've done. The rest was just annoying (though my watermelon flip never cracked). My 4P triggers did break but that was an easy fix.

[lyric flax]

I’ve only seen like 2 broken watermelon Flips

Iirc Chris said he only had one Watermelon Flip sent to him and it was because it wasn’t treated well

[ashen vault]

yeah still buying but not pre ordering

unless they really f up their next announcement

[late rock]

True, but from what I can tell they still usually rectified those issues

[ashen vault]

because their will be one

any day now

[hexed sigil]

The "first offense" argument has it's limits. It's pretty obvious at this point they lied about what kind of screen it was, then they lied about fixing it, then lied about accepting returns (which they walked back but are now making people not only pay return shipping but some insane restocking fee?).
People here treating this like one big mistake, when the only mistake Retroid made was underestimating how many people would have bought the Mini with the screen they had. Everything after that was a series of decisions. Deliberate decisions they deserve to get called out for.

[candid jasper]

You care way more than I do

I just want to buy next shiny thing

And retroid makes good shapes and colors

[hexed sigil]

If you say so, the classic looks like crap to hold next to the 40XXv. Way too little at the bottom to grab onto for the size.

[brittle tiger]

See that I get, and it’s exactly why I’m annoyed with them. Since, like other people have pointed out, it’s not the crime we were particularly annoyed by, it’s the coverup.

Although at the same time, I literally went through literally that exact thing with the RG Cube for something that’s arguably even less of a problem. And that’s not even counting the multiple other times I’ve had to deal with Anbernic customer support being trash (it’s just the last time I was willing to accept).

[candid jasper]

Cool opinion, thanks for the @

[brittle tiger]

Which is honestly why I’m getting sick and tired of these companies in general.

[hexed sigil]

At least Anbernic sent out replacement screens. It's still an underwhelming response but it's better than Retroid's.

[brittle tiger]

It took 2 weeks for them to even decide to send me a new screen, and it had even worse light bleed.

So literally 2 weeks of arguing with customer support to get them to send the thing they literally promised reviewers they would send to customers.

[late rock]

Haven't they already announced plans to send diy kits?

[hexed sigil]

How could a kit even fix this issue with the Mini? They made it impossible to even get the screen out without destroying it.

[late rock]

Ask David that, I'm assuming it would come with a new shell

[brittle tiger]

And then I had to spend another 2 weeks arguing with them about that, only for them to finally send me a shipping notice (they wanted me to pay for it at first, just like Retroid), and they literally waited a whole week after it had said “delivered” before they finally acknowledged that they had it and would send a replacement, which took another week to ship.

And when I finally got the new one, after 7-8 weeks of nonstop arguing with Anbernic customer support and waiting for the damn thing to ship all over the country? The one they sent, as in the one I have now, only has slightly less light bleed than what the first screen had.

[brittle tiger]

It unironically took them almost 2 months to “solve” my issue, and it was only slightly better than last time, they didn’t actually fix it anywhere near as much as what they promised.

[brittle tiger]

And that’s the shit that they were willing to “solve”, I haven’t even gotten into the shit I’ve had to solve on my own because they refused to properly help in any way, and at some points outright ghosted me on customer support tickets.

The only reason my RG40XX H had working left side controls and my RG405M had a working R2 button is because I already was in the hardware modding hobby and knew how to properly solder. I literally cannot recommend anyone bother with that shit and just threaten a chargeback the second they try ghosting you.

[hexed sigil]

I don't feel so bad over the bullshit AYN put me through now.

[late rock]

I guess what I'm asking here, is did Retroid actually lie past the initial stage? Yes, we now know why the screen issue is the way it was, but Retroid had already stated previously that they confirmed with the manufacturer that it was a hardware issue, so it doesn't really seem like that much of a cover up. And realistically, the screens already came in the "4:3" shape from the supplier. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something here but after thinking about it some more this new info doesn't change all that much about their response.

[brittle tiger]

They lied about the resolution.

[shell zephyr]

any word on the chip this is running?

[late rock]

We already knew this

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, and so did they.

If not at the very beginning, then it was definitely once they started looking at the freaking schematics to “try and figure out what is wrong…oh fuck, it’s the LG Wing Screen”.

[hexed sigil]

The device was specifically designed in such a way that a 10:9 (or close to it) screen would be partially covered to resemble a 4:3 screen. That's not an accident.

[late rock]

But they confirmed that they couldn't fix it because it's a hardware issue

[junior fox]

Is it doom posting, or a justified reaction to them doing something to cause a deep mistrust?

[shell zephyr]

doom posting

[late rock]

No, but again, retroid isn't the one manufacturing the screens

[junior fox]

They tried to pull one over on everybody, period

[brittle tiger]

They directly said it was likely a software issue that they could fix, even when they should have known by then that it was outright unfixable without revealing its the wrong resolution.

[late rock]

Well when you consider that most of the parts of these new products are a known quantity, yes its kind of doomposting

[junior fox]

That’s fair enough, I guess

[brittle tiger]

I’d agree if we as a community ever even had a single proper reaction to companies doing something like that, instead of randomly choosing which ones deserve the hammer and which deserve a pass.

[junior fox]

It’s called discipline

If you feel that a brand has wronged you, vote with your wallet

Saying shit like, “stop crying, move on” isn’t productive or helpful

It’s basically saying shut the fuck up and keep buying

[brittle tiger]

We literally had a call to action from cfw devs to avoid Anbernic handhelds after the 353 firmware debacle and they were still getting outright recommendations only a few days after that.

[hexed sigil]

The thing is though that we don't really expect much from Anbernic and Powkiddy. Retroid is supposed to be better than this. They've been trying to edge toward that more premium level Ayaneo thinks they occupy for awhile, but when something goes wrong people want to treat it the same as something going wrong on a $50-100 device.

[late rock]

And that's really where it becomes more of a question concerning "How stupid/greedy do you think Retroid is?" You could be right in that, for now I'm going to wait and see

[brittle tiger]

Like, at this point I’m already slowly debating leaving the hobby entirely just because we keep fucking allowing this shit to go on even when we directly say “it’s too far”, and both they and we on average just don’t change.

[junior fox]

There’s not an engineer in the world that would sign off on the decisions they made for the mini 🤣 It suggests that they really think their customers are quite dumb.

[hexed sigil]

Chinese companies underestimating American's unshakable will to speak to the manager.

[wintry pecan]

they would send out the front half the the device basically
with the screen preassembled onto it

[late rock]

How much time passed between their initial statement of it being software related and when they concluded it was a hardware issue? I think that would be important to determine how much they knew honestly

[junior fox]

I think that’s giving them a bit too much leeway

[brittle tiger]

Like, we have a few people getting burned and refusing to get any more handhelds, and then you have a shit ton of people responding with “get over it”.

Or you’ll have an entire company getting passes for non-stop bullshit just because “they make budget handhelds so it’s ok for those to have problems” (oh hello, Anbernic’s $100+ handhelds that actively have the same quality control).

[late rock]

To each their own

[modest mantle]

i mean the decision to hide part of the screen for a different experience/size isn't that insane from an engineering perspective. Hello 2DS

[summer marsh]

This channel in 2 weeks

[modest mantle]

really the PR stunts they pulled is what makes them look bad

[eager rain]

There is only the mmv4 resolution issue that is even moderately similar and they were also rightfully roasted over it, and then somehow forgiven and now they make the worst handhelds ever more or less

[modest mantle]

that and probably lack of testing

that's why when they're like, we opened and closed it 100,000 times i'm like, ehhhhhh, sure

[wintry pecan]

yeh, people mad at retroid and the miyoo flip they waited years for doesnt even close

[modest mantle]

mine closes and works fine thank you

[junior fox]

How about saying they think they can fix it with a patch for several months when they knew all along that it was just a janky product?

[modest mantle]

or maybe they were really trying to and the reality is it was just not possible

but like, tell people that then

[eager rain]

Anyone who bought miyoo batch 1 after the a30 is a special breed

[brittle tiger]

They literally make a shit show every time they make a new handheld with any major differences, and then proceed to make a fixed variant in an unspecified revision so that people can just pretend the issue outright never happened.

[junior fox]

That’s what I’m saying

[modest mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-gif-18835091

[late rock]

I'm assuming they really tried everything they could up to their final statement

[modest mantle]

Reporting for duty, Special Breed 1st Sergeant Zeelobby

I dunno, like i said, when it's under $100 I buy all kinds of weird shit

[junior fox]

Capitalism is gawd’s economic systum 🫡💪🦅

[brittle tiger]

Anyone who bought any type of Miyoo Batch One after the Miyoo Mini V1 is an outright victim of Stockholm syndrome.

[modest mantle]

And i've yet to destroy my V1 flip, and i've tried, I really have

[brittle tiger]

Like, by that point you’ve literally seen it happen 3 times already, you know what goes down and you still go through with it.

[eager rain]

In my case I joined the hobby when miyoo goodwill was at its peak (MM+)

[coral forum]

I'm still riding the high of getting one of the last good batch of v2 minis

[modest mantle]

I'll be honest, onion is the only reason I keep picking up my mm and mm+

[coral forum]

It's the only reason anyone does

[modest mantle]

It showed me the power of linux + simplicity

[eager rain]

I can’t do the zero gpu thing anymore and like muOS even more

[modest mantle]

muOS is my second favorite in the budget arena

[coral forum]

I wish more custom firmwares had the game switcher function

[modest mantle]

but gameswitcher OP, like legit OP, in the way onion implemented it

excited spruce is at least trying to replicate it

one of the main reasons why i wish classic used a linux friendly soc

[plush onyx]

Are they starting preorders tomorrow without disclosing what the soc is???

[warm comet]

I think there’s an event for Qualcomm tomorrow? So perhaps it will be revealed just before preorders start. Might be under embargo.

[hexed dagger]

I assume you and everyone else will have a chance to preorder knowing what the SoC is

[distant widget]

might not know much more about the SOC after the reveal though, especially for the lower end chip like this one which would not be the focus, based on what was revealed in 2023 's event last time.
maybe just generic stuff like "8 Kyro cores" and "AXX gpu" which don't really tell you much.

I think nobody knows what exactly in the g3x gen 2 until the pocket s ships out and people do testing with it, and can confirm it performs similar to a 8g2 with overclocked gpu.

[wintry pecan]

if its a brand new embargoed chip we wont know for sure what it can do 100% anyway, just ballpark

[pseudo dove]

Yeah it my do Linux 🤞🤞🤞

Down the road

[thick isle]

It doesn’t matter. They will give you what they want to give you.

Yes this is how it works

[plush onyx]

I thought you were replying to a different comment I made lol. But yes

[ebon forum]

There's no way they didn't notice

[feral jay]

The lack of a chin makes me think this thing will be horrible to hold after 20 minutes.

[cold shell]

TBH I think people are making too much of a fuss of what SOC it is IMO. We know its price so there’s a ballpark expectation of what the performance is gonna be. It’s not targeted for games/consoles that need a joystick. I highly doubt it’s going to be weaker than the RP2S. It’ll be good enough for how much you’re paying for it

Only thing that matters for me is how power efficient it’s going to be. But that’s just me

[surreal fable]

The screen is the most tempting thing about it.

[scarlet meadow]

Do we learn what CPU there are using today?

[novel crane]

Either tonight or tomorrow morning

[scarlet meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-chris-pratt-happy-oh-boy-whoa-gif-14308435

[nocturne gazelle]

If it is an embargo by qualcomm its likely to be around monday morning PT to coincide with start of GDC

If its just a date embargo with no set time it will technically be monday in china in 2h (Bejing/Shenzhen time) so maybe an annoucement later tonight for the western world (+8-10h from now)

[warm nebula]

Embargo is probably that QC want to be the first to announce it, so more likely to be related to your first suggestion, albeit they could send out a bunch of press releases prior to the start

[nocturne gazelle]

Yeah idk QC doesnt have a briefing officially till wednesday. So idk if its just going to be the chips on the show floor or what

They ofc could do their own annoucement anytime outside of GDC official so it doesnt really matter

[turbid haven]

Retroid is gonna have a lot of fun come monday huh

[pseudo dove]

I really really want this, but since last day I really really really want the square retroid mini instead

[novel crane]

I might just get this as my EDC

[scenic lodge]

Are there any real life pictures yet?

[novel crane]

Not yet

[echo torrent]

Tbh at this point I think they’re probably just not going to address it as they already said they’re developing a new, actually real screen lol

[rose dove]

Mini² with sticks, 865, and horizontal form factor would open up so many more options.

[lament cloud]

It's already horizontal though

[pseudo dove]

Yeah linux for one

[novel crane]

.... so just the Mini with a better screen? Cause it already has all the rest lmao

[rose dove]

It already has the screen too

[twin shale]

Tbf most of us really don't need new versions of these things lol. The hobby really should turn into playing games when you get a good device, not looking at more shit lol. I've sold off most my shit for this reason

[surreal gyro]

Nor do people need a new car, new phone, etc. But you can't keep up with your neighbor if you aren't willing to make financially irresponsible choices. 😅

No one needs the classic. Except people new to the hobby

[brittle tiger]

I’m mostly still here to help mess with getting games running and test MUOS as an artificer, and usually sell my old stuff if something I think is neat gets released.

[high hemlock]

Definitely. There are much more important shit we should be worrying about. Such as panicking about what Anbernic is up to with their silence.

[lyric flax]

I’ve just wanted a pocketable clamshell gamecube since I was a child and I’m happy in 2025 it’s finally lookin’ like it’s coming man…I’m really hoping they don’t drop the ball with this one because they’re gonna need to put something good out after the mini

[hexed dagger]

Personally my interest here swings from playing games to tinkering with these devices. I have more handhelds than I need for the former, but never enough of them for the latter.

[ebon forum]

Why are we gatekeeping?

Do what you want with your devices

Buy them sell them collect them

Live life how you want to

[scarlet meadow]

All I know is I’m second guessing wether to order a classic just because of all the Mini drama and feel a lot of people are too.
I don’t even have any stake in this whole fiasco because I never bought a mini because I thought the screen was a tad to small and could of avoided this ness by using the whole screen and not purposely gimping it just to falsely claim it’s a 4:3 screen

I could be a amazing handheld but still will hold off for real reviews

[pseudo dove]

I’d be rushing some units out to reviewers quick sharp

[ebon forum]

Oh ya unless you buy from ayaneo

[dusty marsh]

My tin foil hat self is laughing at the thought that The anbernic sale with discount codes takijg place is to sway people away from Retroid.

[ebon forum]

if only they didn't have the fuckery department all ove

[modest mantle]

Gonna sit this preorder out. Things just keep sounding worse. Heh

Doesn't hurt that I just bought a pocket DMG off someone too. Ayaneo sucks, but it's at least a known factor for the DMG

[dusty marsh]

This was my response to whether or not to get the pocket. I need it in black and I opted for the lesser of two evils. Where did you order from?

[modest mantle]

Got it second hand from someone who didn't even open it yet XD. So hopefully it works. Otherwise I'll be dealing with Ayaneo CS

[dusty marsh]

Nice and congrats. Waiting on a preorder from Droix to be fulfilled

[novel crane]

Im probably gonna buy an Analogue Pocket from someone and call it a day

[surreal gyro]

Take the hat off man, these companies have spring sales every year lol

[eager rain]

Anbernic has a sale every month

[terse zephyr]

is the chip confirmed

[eager rain]

lol not yet afaict

[modest mantle]

Maybe the chip announce will shock me back into excitement

[rare pumice]

does the chip really matter, it only going to run low end consoles

[dusty marsh]

I know, but it's fun to imagine 🤣

[pseudo dove]

Linux 🤞🤞🙏🙏

[terse zephyr]

how can i give money to someone who wont confirm specs

also why no analogue stick on the 6 button classic haiyaaa

retroid what you doing

[eager rain]

I mean you are gonna need devs to tear the thing apart to confirm any specs they give you anyway lol

[terse zephyr]

yes but at least i can then go back abd be like

YOU DIDNT GIVE ME RIGHT SPECS

[eager rain]

Just don’t preorder

[terse zephyr]

uncle Doggo cheap now

[eager rain]

Do you really trust retroid enough at the moment to gamble on them messing it up again to save $5

[terse zephyr]

want that $5 discount

$5 allow me to buy my coffeee

[nocturne gazelle]

doubt it very few SD chipsets have any linux support so its more of a how long will it take for someone to develop it

[terse zephyr]

oh yea they messed up quite a few launches didnt they

[eager rain]

Yeah and they aren’t fixing it anymore apparently

[terse zephyr]

ehhhh what

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, and since this is the first time they’re fucking up fixing those problem launches, we don’t know whether or not they’ll fix any of the launches after this.

[terse zephyr]

sorry what you mean

[eager rain]

They made it right for batch 1 rp4/flip 1 buyers right away, on the mini they gaslit everyone for months and are still scamming

[brittle tiger]

Even if they do actually fix it, there isn’t much trust in the fact they only now fixed it after deliberately making an enemy out of most of the community. So people would be completely fine and justified to not want to deal with any “first batch” issues in the first place if they now know they might not even be fixed.

[robust granite]

k then stop buying their products and crying about it? its not a scam if they thought it was going to be a simple software issue to fix. but god forbid they actually try to remedy the problem unlike any other handheld producers that just ignore the issue and keep releasing products like nothing happened.

[modest mantle]

If it can't run Saturn well and a bunch of people buy the 6 button version, I imagine it'll matter a lot XD

[eager rain]

its still being sold as 960p RIGHT NOW

that is fraud

[robust granite]

that was the issue with the anbernic 6 button handheld eh?

[modest mantle]

Def false advertisement

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Was pretty shitty there too. Heh

[eager rain]

the curse. We are never getting a saturn themed handheld that has the right controls and a beetle saturn capable chip lol

[modest mantle]

One day someone will

[terse zephyr]

no dreamcast and N64

[modest mantle]

And it'll shock us all

[robust granite]

I mean. seemed good if you just wanted to play genesis. and Im not opposed to single use devices. but it was odd to have 2 different models when neither could do saturn well.

[eager rain]

it'll be FPGA maybe

[modest mantle]

Sugar Cube

[rare pumice]

not having a stick will not play saturn well.

[modest mantle]

Calling it

[eager rain]

the problem is any handheld powerful enough to play saturn people will whine that it doesn't have the right controls for ps2

[terse zephyr]

so the solution

[modest mantle]

Eh. Wasn't the stick Saturn games countable on like one hand

[terse zephyr]

just put the stick there anyways

[eager rain]

one stick sure

[coral lodge]

RIP Retroid

[terse zephyr]

you half the complaints

[eager rain]

but people act like they can't play 4 button systems on 6 button controllers

[robust granite]

the problem is any handheld,people will whine *there, fixed the statement lol.

[terse zephyr]

you can??? OMG WHAT A GENIUS

[rose dove]

Which buttons do you press??? Far too confusing

[eager rain]

personally I want a stick on my 6 button handheld for n64 as well as the minority of saturn analog games

[modest mantle]

Yeah. God forbid people ask for things they want 🙄

[robust granite]

whether its price, controls, form factor. theres always something. because their magical universal device doesnt exist lol

[terse zephyr]

need analog on classic

[rose dove]

It does exist, they just put bezels over it

[terse zephyr]

chefs kiss

[modest mantle]

There's whining after a release. And then there's hope before specs are known. All this falls into the latter. There is a difference

[eager rain]

I agree it's a fools errand to expect one handheld to be perfect for emulating every system, but I can put pretty concrete wants on specific handhelds and sometimes they are even met (like the rp5 for psp)

the rg arc is basically perfect for genesis/megadrive too other than the screen being mid

[modest mantle]

If classic turns out to be a dud, I'll just unfollow this thread. But until release I'll push my wants

I mean shit, RP5 improved after announcement because of complaints

[robust granite]

the fact that theres no sub 100 dollar 4:3 device with dual bottom sticks, 4 buttons, a 4 inch screen, with a 10,000mah battery that also has a 16:9 screen and 3:2 screen and plays everything. people are gonna complain.

[rare pumice]

the classic just looks like an over priced entry level device for collectors.

[eager rain]

that's fine...?

I don't understand why other people complaining or even having unrealistic expectations bothers you

[terse zephyr]

curious. what did they improve

[eager rain]

it was going to be a downgrade from the 4 on ram on OS

[modest mantle]

Like they do pay attention

[robust granite]

its just funny. which is why I stick to a few single use devices. great experiences.

[modest mantle]

Wouldn't be shocked if a classic with sticks shows up in a couple months

[robust granite]

Im just hoping the RP Classic feels like a higher end device for GB/C and maybe some SNES.

[eager rain]

the screen looks perfect for snes if you're ok with 8:7 PAR and not a 4:3 correction purist

[modest mantle]

Square is fun for a lot of older stuff

A good jack of all trades ratio

[eager rain]

unfortunately no linux = no native pico 8 😦

[robust granite]

being a "purist" is weird since it varries game by game whether they factored for the aspect ratio correction or not lol.

[eager rain]

some people rightly insist that when they played on a real snes on a real CRT everything was 4:3 and they want to stick to that, and I respect that

I'm pretty flexible when it comes to snes, anything between 8:7 and 4:3 is good, I go with whatever fits the screen I'm using best

[modest mantle]

Which is again where chip matters. Tho it's not a s865 so I doubt we'll ever see Linux on it

[robust granite]

yeh its negligible difference to me tbh. whatever fits the screen better.

[modest mantle]

Unless people start using it in a lot of stuff

[terse zephyr]

best device. CUBExx

[eager rain]

for real heresy I'll sometimes go a hair wider than 4:3 on 1080p by integer scaling vertical 5x (with some overscan) and horizontal 6x

[terse zephyr]

replaced RGB30

for me

[modest mantle]

I got a non bleed cube regular and loved that thing

Cube refresh with OLED and I'm down

[robust granite]

I was gonna get the Original Cube. but fuck me the screens on those were just all so bad. did they fix the light bleed on the cubeXX?

[terse zephyr]

not mine

i cried

[eager rain]

on one hand I'm tempted by the current anbernic sale especially since I'm passing on the classic due to trust issues, on the other hand I already have a 34xx, 35xxSP, and 28xx for h700 handhelds

[terse zephyr]

which is why i still use the RGB30

otherwise i would be on cube alot more

[eager rain]

the cubeXX uses a different screen mounting arrangement which I think means it's better on average but damn that 720x720 lcd is so super sensistive to bleed if there is ANY pressure on the screen from the shell

my rgb30 had bad bleed too

[modest mantle]

OLED cube lets goo

Everyone gonna be buying the 3.9 OLED

[robust granite]

the cube just has one of my fave D-pads.

[merry mango]

This classic is basically what I’ve wanted ever since I got my first retro handheld (rg35xx+)

[eager rain]

yeah, if it works out

I'm in the same boat

as is the 406v is probably closest to perfect for me

vertical enjoyer, almost exclusively play dpad centric games, want a gpu for shaders

[merry mango]

Im not looking to play consoles really. Just arcade

[eager rain]

willing to pay for better screens

[modest mantle]

That'd be the DMG for me. Minus the price. But I just paid it anyway. As long as the unit I get works 😆

[modest mantle]

Yeah. I guess even if the chip is a dud for Saturn, it should be solid for arcade

[merry mango]

Exactly

Basically I wanted was the rg35xx+ with oled

[robust granite]

Either way. Seems like it's a safe bet to hold back on pre ordering.

[merry mango]

Now i get a 3.92” oled and 6 face buttons

[robust granite]

But I do want it

[eager rain]

you'll probably get that from anbernic this year lol

[modest mantle]

Haha. True

[robust granite]

Might get the 34xx in the mean time. I don't have a dedicated GBA device lol.

[merry mango]

That’s why I’m hoping they tease the 3.92” oled sp on Monday

[eager rain]

there's a delay now presumably while they're developing for whatever chips they're replacing h700 and t820 with, but once those chips drop I'm sure they'll be back to offering them in every possible shape and size

[robust granite]

I respect it. As long as it keeps selling and I got options on which device I want lol.

[modest mantle]

Was why I was hoping classic would have used s865. Pushed it more to the midrange power level

Gonna be a flood of stick carrying capable OLED systems in the next year or two

[robust granite]

I just want someone to start making premium devices that do the old stuff that isn't ayaneo lol.

[dusty marsh]

GPD is my go to, their win mini is top tier

[eager rain]

I wanted 865 for firmware support and beetle saturn

instead I doubt we're gonna see any CFW

[modest mantle]

I didn't even need DMG levels. It's 100% overkill (well except with video out and BT controller, which is pretty amazing for travel). Was hoping I could pay way less for a retroid that still did most of it

I guess flip 2 is still an option

I just have a soft spot for verts

[eager rain]

yeah vertical pocketable devices is my usual go to

[terse zephyr]

is rocknix on it and working fully now?

i dont hate mu, but i really dont like how...."simple" it is

[eager rain]

no clue, I use muOS on the h700

[terse zephyr]

rocknix is alittle more flashy

[merry mango]

I think I’m out for the flip2. I’d rather get a faster soc since I already have the rp5

[terse zephyr]

but does it..............

FLIP?

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

If I weren’t so lazy to sell the rp5….

[modest mantle]

I've been happy with mu

Dunno how much flashier id need

Linux is just nice for pico, ports, Xbox, etc. PS3 if powerful enough

[terse zephyr]

i just really like the UI of rocknix/emustation

[merry mango]

Has anyone here tried Lindbergh loader on Linux?

Wondering how well it runs on snapdragon

I will google….

I didn’t find anything….

[ashen vault]

Calm down it’s Sunday, they’ll change it tomorrow

[eager rain]

sure they will

[ebon forum]

Mhm super sp

[ashen vault]

Trust

[eager rain]

honestly I would love if anbernic could make a 35xxSP with the 406 720p lcd, on one condition: since they're increasing the footprint I need them to make it a bit thinner in my pocket

[hexed sigil]

Depends on the game. Some devs made their games with the intention of being on 4:3 TVs (Square), some didn't (Nintendo, oddly enough). Most games can go either way but Chrono Trigger def looks better 4:3.

[ebon forum]

40xxsp

Basically

But is I really going to matter

[pulsar moon]

are you guys going to preorder the rp classic?

[ebon forum]

Not anymore

[pulsar moon]

I wanted to preorder, but the recent issues from the rp mini screen makes me rethink my decision.

[robust granite]

prob not. but I do want it.

also I dont wanna wait months for it to actually release and then ship.

[novel crane]

In waiting a couple months

Reviews and devs to say their piece

[tame raft]

And for problems to surface

[robust granite]

bingo.

[wintry pecan]

usually the reviews come abouthalfway through the preorder

so, wait for those

[robust granite]

my general rule is not to pre-order unless you dont mind throwing money away. and generally I dont throw money away on consoles over 100 dollars.

less than that and I'll take the chance but. lol

RPFlip Hinge, Rp4 Trigger, RG Cube Screen. RP Mini Screen

[rough depot]

I figure plenty will still buy it, and if it turns out to be a good option I can either grab one later on the marketplace when people get tired of it, or wait for whatever comes next

[robust granite]

general anbernic stick snapping on consoles that shouldnt have it at higher prices.

[pulsar moon]

luckily or not, the only issue that the rp classic can have is the screen hahah

[rough depot]

I think that’s optimistic, there’s still plenty that can go wrong lol

[delicate ermine]

there can be plenty of issues, also I doubt there is anything wrong with the screen

[robust granite]

thats pretty ignorant to possible issues.

[rough depot]

I think the screen should be the least likely problem too myself, considering it works well with the DMG when run at full resolution

[robust granite]

they could end up with faulty Cooling fans. who knows.

[rough depot]

Fans, triggers might feel bad

Unknown chip could have some weird interactions

Retroid might send a pipe bomb with every purchase

In retaliation

[robust granite]

bad batch of plastic for the shell could leave it brittle.

not that any of these will happen but. saying the only possible issue is the screen just is false.

charge port issues. Battery being used as a Heatsync anbernic style lol.

[rough depot]

I think this is unlikely given the fan exists, but your point about general design flaws stands

[robust granite]

Its definitely egaggerated definitely, just making a point that we dont know.

[rough depot]

I suppose they could sandwich the battery between the chip and the fan for absolute maximum problems

[robust granite]

dont give anbernic ideas.

[rough depot]

“What? We’re cooling the battery! It’s fine!”

Battery makes a great thermal paste

[robust granite]

that being said, I am hoping that the screen doesnt have bleeding issues like the cube did.

[delicate ermine]

10min slow mode in the RP Mini channel on the Retroid Discord

[robust granite]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[wintry pecan]

its been heated in there all day again

[robust granite]

seems a bit excessive but ok.

[delicate ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[novel crane]

I've kinda just

[wintry pecan]

1154 messages since midnight

[robust granite]

I really think if they didnt say anything about it, it wouldnt have blown up lol

[wintry pecan]

thats a LOT

in just that channel

[novel crane]

Avoided the Retroid discord these last few days

[wintry pecan]

the mods are exhausted

[novel crane]

Mostly just been finding music and seeing what's being going on Rocknix for Odin 2

[wintry pecan]

there have been 10708 messages since the 7th, when this all started, just in the rpmini channel

[robust granite]

the hundred or so ppl that bought the Rp Mini to play SNES and PS1 with scanline shaders definitely are very vocal about it.

[scenic lodge]

More like the people who bought the mini and thought that it really had a 1280x960 screen

[scarlet meadow]

Someone mentioned they got banned too on another discord, don't blame the mods some posts are just flat out rude

[wintry pecan]

i havent personally seen any questionable bans over the mini situation, they are giving a decent amount of leeway

[brittle tiger]

Oh not even, only like up to an absolute max of 100 people at a time have been talking. They’ve just had a lot to talk about.

[wintry pecan]

by a lot, its the same thing again and again

[robust granite]

by "a lot to say" you mean "the same thing on repeat"?

[brittle tiger]

Yes, pretty much. Literally the same topics over and over because a new guy will come in with the post that was made several hours ago, if not yesterday, and go “guys did you not see this?!”

[delicate ermine]

just because it has been talked about, doesn't means we can't bring it up forever and until it's fixed

[robust granite]

Im actually curious how many ppl care That much.

vs those that dont bcz that problem doesnt affect their usecase.

[brittle tiger]

You can, but for the love of god can we at least come up with different ways to bring it up?

[delicate ermine]

I mean, 1240x930 pixel is a pretty dramatic issue, given how all integer scaling is fucked

[brittle tiger]

Instead of doing “hey guys, did you see what’s going on with the screen?”

[delicate ermine]

if Retroid just flat out refuses to acknowledge it, I sure can and will

[robust granite]

implying every single person using the device cares about integer scaling in the first place.

[brittle tiger]

Hey guys, they did something with the screen.

Hey guys, did you see this?

[robust granite]

especially on a device that small.

[brittle tiger]

Hey guys, did you see the link.

[delicate ermine]

well, if you spend $200 on a higher end device instead of going with the cheap e-waste option, I guess a lot of people do

[brittle tiger]

Hey guys, did you know what happened?

[robust granite]

especially since the consoles that are effected most by interger scaling issues would be like snes and such which. if you bought a 200 dollar handheld for those.....

[brittle tiger]

If they don’t acknowledge it tonight or tomorrow, then I agree.

[robust granite]

If you bought a 200 dollar console with that much power for snes interger scaling. I question your life decisions. since it would not be noticable on any 3d based consoles.

[delicate ermine]

every time someone in #🤷│what-do-i-buy brings Retroid up it will be mentioned for all eternity

[brittle tiger]

If they’re literally not available right now, because the guy who could have been able to contact them when they’re closed got chased out, then literally no amount of comments will make them come back since they can’t see them to begin with.

[robust granite]

oh you mean when those angry nutjobs doxxed chris?

because of a toy?

[brittle tiger]

If they don’t have a good response, then you start arguing and complaining when they can actually see you.

[brittle tiger]

No, “it was just one guy” and a shit ton more people who were sending threats

[delicate ermine]

15min slow mode

[brittle tiger]

God damnit, who said what?

[robust granite]

admin prob like "every time someone is being toxic, we add another 5 minutes to the slow mode(

[delicate ermine]

nobody said anything, Ath probably only being pissed

[twin shale]

You should really really wait for it to get to people's hands lol. I'm not really sure reviews are sufficient for these devices as there's almost always issues reviews just straight up don't catch. Id say like 2 months after release check in on what people said

Really as a community, as much as I joke for people to yolo buy, we should probably encourage people to just wait more. You have devices that do what these do, no reason to save a little to be a guinea pig

[brittle tiger]

To be fair, it’s literally only 2 mods in there right now, and one of them is trying to deliberately stay impartial since they’re also a reviewer. Atheo’s basically been moderating the entirety of the discord by himself for the past…I think literal 2 days.

[wintry pecan]

more like a week

[delicate ermine]

especially as $5, $10 or even $30 on the wombo combo ain't really enough to end up dealing with bullshit

[wintry pecan]

its only been a bit over a week since the first round, and then the new screen info this weekend

[delicate ermine]

I mean sure, but he can always just log off and let it all burn

[brittle tiger]

I do have to admit, if they somehow do give the legit best response, only for people to find a new issue, but only talk about it on the weekend again, even as someone currently mad about the issue, I have to admit it’s gotta be planned.

[nocturne gazelle]

9-5'ers have more free time on the weekend not super wierd

[brittle tiger]

I feel like that’s the exact kind of thing that people only say they’d be fine with until it actually happens.

[wintry pecan]

i highly doubt there is more to find physically with the device
only plays left in the game is retroid next then consumer
(major finds, not nitpicky shit)

[brittle tiger]

It’s weird when it happens on Friday every single time during what would be around the 9-5 for at least half of the world.

[nocturne gazelle]

what happened friday

[brittle tiger]

The news on the screen broke out.

[nocturne gazelle]

do you mean friday night in the local the poster was based

*saturday am

[twin shale]

Really imo just shouldnt be a mod. That's just a bad idea

[nocturne gazelle]

assuming his location isnt complete bs, Im in the same timezone

[brittle tiger]

No shit.

You literally don’t even get paid, and you have to deal with keeping control over well above 10,000 people.

[twin shale]

Oh no I mean yes to that but I meant the reviewer being mod for a company discord

Bad optics

Even if you are impartial

[brittle tiger]

I’m actually in the Central time zone, so now I’m honestly kind of confused, I really feel like I remember it being talked about Friday night.

…oh good god, don’t tell me time’s actually starting to blur for me with how often the exact same topic’s been talked about.

[nocturne gazelle]

doesnt seem that bitbuilt is user timezone adjusted

but still posts are late friday night early am saturday for continental US it would seem

[delicate ermine]

I mean, Kei isn't really doing much modding there anyway

[twin shale]

Bad optics no matter what

[brittle tiger]

He’s been a mod for a long while, and beyond him Chris, RetroFodder and Atheo, the literal only “mods” left are David and Joye (who are more-so busy as customer support).

[nocturne gazelle]

appears bitbuilt is running on UK/london timezone for stamps (unless it changes when logged which im not currently)

[brittle tiger]

So I imagine he just decided to say “fuck it” and help out at one point.

And now, if he decided to quit just to avoid the optics, that’s just leaving RetroFodder and Atheo high and dry.

[delicate ermine]

kinda, but Retroid ain't shitting out enough devices to really matter to his reviews too much IMO

also personally I don't really care about reviewer opinions too much anyway

it's way more relevant what people get once these devices release

looking at the rgCUBE

[twin shale]

I just don't fundamentally agree but it's fine

[brittle tiger]

But regardless, yeah I really don’t think that discord going fully mod-free is for the best at all.

[twin shale]

That's for retroid to worry or care about

[brittle tiger]

Like, all that does is create a festering echo chamber for anger, frustration, and enabling until things go overboard again.

[twin shale]

No one else should or has to care

[hexed sigil]

I see we're at the "complaining about the people complaining" stage of the backlash.

[brittle tiger]

I mean fuck it sure, but I’d rather get a warning in advance so that I can leave that server before it goes full Mad Max.

[delicate ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-guitar-guy-gif-18984063

[crystal walrus]

Me and my friend were talking about the LG Wing a few days ago randomly, kinda funny now I’m about to order a device tomorrow that uses the same screen

https://tenor.com/view/lg-wing-lg-wing-sidekick-swivel-gif-27454114

well, the bottom screen anyway

[eager rain]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-pirates-of-the-caribbean-cringe-compilation-cringe-meme-gif-12363795

[twin shale]

What do you mean, they dont have the same screen resolution

[eager rain]

he's talking about the classic not the mini

[crystal walrus]

yeah the thread we are in is for the classic

[twin shale]

What do you mean, they dont have the same screen resolution

[crystal walrus]

the bottom screen of the lg wing does

it’s the same amoled panel

[twin shale]

Sorry I'm fucking around lol, does this classic go the full screen?

Not some butchered res

[candid jasper]

Yeah RP Classic should have the same screen properies/dimensions as the Ayaneo Pocket DMG or LG Wing

[eager rain]

we will see

the important thing is that if retroid does screw up the classic somehow they'll claim they're looking into it, lecture you for asking too often for four months, then reveal that they knew the whole time and don't care, please preorder the RP6

[twin shale]

I mean, all bs aside I hope they don't fuck it up

To me the first true upgrade from the miyoo mini plus

[eager rain]

I hope the classic is good because on paper I like the design, I hope it becomes available used in canada because I don't want to give them my money lol

[candid jasper]

Can Android really replace the lightweight OS options of a MM+?

[brittle tiger]

We all do. I’m still hoping they don’t fuck up fixing the Mini so that we can just give them the MagicX treatment instead of having to completely abandon them.

[twin shale]

Chief

I'm the wrong guy to ask

I find android superior

[wintry pecan]

111 am eastern

[candid jasper]

I just can't get over those coldboot times of the MM+

[brittle tiger]

…Yeah, ok that’s enough of this for me. I’m just gonna ignore Discord until tomorrow.

[late rock]

Fair, at this point there's not much that can be said that hasn't been already

[high hemlock]

Just sit back and enjoy 😎

[robust granite]

man.....linux based handheld sleep mode battery life vs android is night and day difference.

[candid jasper]

I don't use sleep mode on MM+, just turn it all the way off

[robust granite]

yeah exactly. lol

[high hemlock]

Yeah, because sleep mode on Linux is generally crap. With Android you can just sleep and resume and not have to boot up every time.

[late rock]

Another reason why trimui is the goat

Great sleep mode on stock

[eager rain]

sleep on linux can be crap, boot times on android can be crap, I do have a slight preference for 'quick mode' with auto saves and shutdowns and a fast booting OS like onion or muOS on pocket handhelds myself

[robust granite]

I'll take the slow boot over garbage sleep mode.

[twin comet]

thats always been my take

lol

[eager rain]

for me I either need a quick mode on a budget pocket handheld that only uses RA or I need good sleep, it's the in between that's awkward

[robust granite]

theres an inbetween? lol

[twin comet]

id rather the device to boot slow than sleep being effectively non-functional

[twin comet]

there is but

[eager rain]

yeah, a lot of stuff like the x55 that only uses emulation station firmwares with no quick mode

[twin comet]

its kinda...

[robust granite]

that sounds so bad.

[eager rain]

rather than stripped down muOS/minUI/onionOS on the lighter weight end or android on the heavyweight end

[twin comet]

the workaround i always see work but uh

they are just that

[eager rain]

just need bazzite on arm tbh, sleep mode on that is great without having to deal with an OS meant for phones

[twin comet]

work around the problems

i feel like bazzite wouldnt fix that and would need more from the vendor than anything lol

[robust granite]

the sleep mode on android devices is such a treat. hit button, device is on, and had almost no battery drain.

2nd best console experience outside of the quick resume functionality on Xbox. thats a real treat lol.

I mean, lots of handhelds have similar quick boot functionality to that. which is great.

[simple robin]

I just need vulkan for shadders. If lacks power for that then I am out

[plain forge]

shadders or we riot lmao

[simple robin]

No just don't buy. Still hate the look of thi,

[modest mantle]

It's an odd bird for sure

[simple robin]

Still has the ugly handheld that isn't cheap ewatse

[modest mantle]

Weirdness of the lines matching weirdness of the lid on the flip 2. It's like they got a new design team after the rp5

Maybe designer left for Ayn. Lol

[late rock]

Yeah I get what they were trying to do but it's not working for me.

I think the purple is the least ugly so I'll probably go with that or the six button

[simple robin]

Start and select beeing stack is just strange

I like the berry color

[modest mantle]

Id def be hitting those accidentally all the time

Especially with no hotkey button

[plain forge]

dang

[summer marsh]

damn congrats on the dmg, did you get a deal or what?

[modest mantle]

Nah. I paid more than I wanted. But it's also the retro colorway. I just figured if I ended up liking it, I'd regret not getting the top model, even if it's way overkill. Now that they don't sell it anymore I figure second hand it'll only go up in price. So I bit the bullet. It's at least unopened.

[summer marsh]

all good I imagine you are going to love it, I can't quite justify one but I really do want one. I respect anyone willing to pay for a premium emulation experience.

[modest mantle]

They had that drama where they were gonna change the plastic and people complained. So I feel like they just ended the IGG instead 😆

[modest mantle]

I travel a fair amount too. So something that doesn't take up too much space in a carry-on that I can plug into a hotel TV w/ BT controller and get that kind of performance out of is kinda rare

Would have been ok with an s865 classic for 1/3 the price and video out tho 😆

[summer marsh]

how much more powerful is the dmg than the sd865?

[novel crane]

Odin 2 level

Mad overkill

[pseudo dove]

Todays going to be interesting!

[summer marsh]

sounds amazing, man if only it was a bit less I could convince myself

[rough depot]

Beyond Odin 2 technically

It’s just pricey

[summer marsh]

nothing wrong with some extra overhead to ensure flawless emulation

[pseudo dove]

Plus you get a stick

[summer marsh]

does ayaneo have sales often? I want one lol

[novel crane]

Only on the GPU side, CPU is still the same iirc

[ebon forum]

Greatest enemy of the super sp

[ebon forum]

How many handhelds do you have that sleep mode battery life has a noticeable difference?

Nvm you praised android I agree

[novel crane]

Yeah, the only sleep mode on the linux side

That even compares is the TSP

[ebon forum]

Linux bad 😡👍

[novel crane]

Ehh

[ebon forum]

No but genuinely I was interested in linux

Prior to buying a handheld

I thought it would be vaguely interesting

But ig I shouldve looked into options before I bought my brick

Only the xx has any options

And the xx have bad screens

[summer marsh]

sir, this is a Wendy's

[ebon forum]

Also Linux actually makes me angry with libraries and stuff

Android with apks is so nice

Wonder whether I should trade for a silly port mini zero28

Idk what y'all see in linux

[summer marsh]

it doesn't feel like gaming on a phone

[novel crane]

For many its fine tuning the experience and making a more cohesive experience vs Android

Android feels like your playing on a phone/tablet

[eager rain]

ES-DE on android is a PITA to set up and daijisho isn't my preference

[novel crane]

And with android, you do have a bit of inherent lag and overhead due to android tax

[eager rain]

also the way app switching works, etc

[modest mantle]

I know droix had the base model on backorder for like $380 with 8GB ram and 128GB storage. Probably would have been the more reasonable model to pick. But people have gotten decent switch emulation out of the higher models I think, so it's def a very niche product. But cool nonetheless

I would have even taken a stick less classic with 865. As weird as that would be. If it had video out

[summer marsh]

okay I'm a dmg fan but switch emulation on it is borderline unhinged haha

[novel crane]

Beacon is my current friend

ESDE is a major PITA

[modest mantle]

Lotta people hook it up to a TV or external monitor for that. Hehe

[novel crane]

And Daijisho is just... eh

[summer marsh]

oh I didn't consider that 😅

[modest mantle]

Yeah. On a 4" screen it'd be a little intense

Sadly I doubt it'll ever see linux

[summer marsh]

4" almost 1:1 screen ha

[modest mantle]

Would be cool to get PS3 running on it well

[summer marsh]

yeah I imagine the dev community around dmg is tiny lol

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Who knows. Might be some Ayaneo diehard out there trying to tackle their specialty top end snapdragons but I doubt it

[ebon forum]

But it'll never be as cohesive as android

At least if you get something new on android it'll work

With Linux I can't even get render96ex to work

Mini zero28 probably has no such issues

They have their own set of issues

[novel crane]

But good luck keep them

[ebon forum]

If only magicx made the minione+34 instead of 40

[novel crane]

Also, I wouldn't call Android "cohesisve" rather than calling it "Set and forget"

[late rock]

Hey at least that rpcs3 port is coming along

The ps3 on a gameboy dream isn't dead yet

[ebon forum]

What's the most lightweight game on the PS3?

It'll be the new

[late rock]

No idea

[ebon forum]

Maybe you can play celeste

[late rock]

Castle crashers maybe?

I've seen a lot of tests for that

[summer marsh]

did you get it going on android? the mario 64 port install experience is like 10x more involved

[high hemlock]

Wat. You literally just run the builder app, select the version of SM64 that you want to build, and just let it sit there until it finishes.

[summer marsh]

yeah it's 10x more involved than dragging a rom to the folder lmao

building it takes ages on low end devices

and prone to errors as well

[high hemlock]

Not much different than setting up portmaster itself lol.

And building it on Android is more "universal" than portmaster.

[unkempt frost]

The Ship of Harkinian process is my favorite

[high hemlock]

Like, you can reuse the same APK across multiple devices without worrying about portmaster compatibility.

[summer marsh]

ship of harkinian da goat. I love that project

[summer marsh]

It’s not easier than dragging a rom. I don’t know why you always want to argue with me about this.

I don’t give a shit if you prefer the android version of Mario 64. That’s great, I’m happy for you.

Still was a bad example of why Linux is worse than android 😆

[high hemlock]

Fragmentation and lack of compatibility across devices is a good example of Android being better than Linux. I mean, Android doesn't do that good in that aspect either, but it's way better than the current Linux scene.

With Linux, everything's great if it works. With Android, you worry less about whether or not things will work.

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

[high hemlock]

I think you using portmaster as a reason for why Linux is better than Android is even more absurd tbh.

[dusty marsh]

Droix has them on sale but it's a pre-order at the moment for the lower tier version in either white or black.

[high hemlock]

It would be like someone saying "Android is better because Linux can't run APKs" (which is something I am definitely not going to say)

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-just-stop-please-stop-stop-it-meme-gif-26307878

[summer marsh]

Yeah I saw that thanks

[high hemlock]

🤷

[novel crane]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

I think both are equally ass when it comes to the headaches they give at the end of the day

[high hemlock]

Can't argue with that. I still have yet to get portmaster to run ports reliably on my supposedly supported devices.

In the end I just gave up.

[summer marsh]

fine to discuss personally preferences but arguing about linux vs android is juvenile console warring bullshit.

just use what you like I don't give af

[high hemlock]

Well I mean, I'm not the one complaining that it's "10x more involved"

[stable atlas]

Are there any cons to getting the 6 button model?

[merry mango]

yeah you might waste more of your life with it cause youre having too much fun

[robust granite]

you know what funny? so many people disagree and think Preconfigured Linug based systems are more simple for that reason. but I too prefer setup on Android, even if it takes longer.

[robust granite]

legit answer. button layout could feel weird.

for non 6 button systems

[summer marsh]

Looks like Retroid is offering the classic screen as a replacement for the mini.

Will they sell it with the classic screen? Sd865 sounds nice

I wanted a vertical but horizontal with sticks and sd865 sounds nice too

[late rock]

David says it depends on the reception

They're open to it

[brittle tiger]

Alright, so good news is that they’re offering the screen replacements with the full proper screen for free.

[summer marsh]

Well shit my choice just got more complicated lol.

I imagine it’s still a funny looking device with less bezels

[robust granite]

saw that earlier. thats wild. tho still gonna upset ppl since its only in one colour.

[brittle tiger]

Bad news is that it’ll only be the black color.

[summer marsh]

Seems reasonable enough anyways

[brittle tiger]

Ok you already got that covered.

[summer marsh]

I want that mini now 🥺

[robust granite]

I still think base mini would be fine as is for most ppl.

[distant widget]

they should just relaunch the mini with the classic screen, and offer the chip being used in the classic as a cheaper variant. won't need to worry about MOQ as they can share the same shells/screens etc

[late rock]

What's the website to compare aspect ratios I see people use in here a lot? I want to see how big 3ds would be on this

[brittle tiger]

Still only planning on waiting for devs to get the Classic units before I even think of getting it, but at least this is actually a better solution than “fuck it, we’ll do it but you gotta pay us”.

[robust granite]

retrosizer?

[summer marsh]

Just relaunch the mini with the screen period.

[brittle tiger]

Display wars and console to screen.
https://www.displaywars.com
https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/

[late rock]

Thanks

[robust granite]

oh that too lol

[craggy torrent]

Hey has there been any word on if we bought a mini we get an extra 10% off. I saw someone say that in this channel though I haven't seen anyway on redeeming that.

[brittle tiger]

Just hurry up on delisting the current mini for now, and relist it whenever they’re done and ready to start selling them with the full classic screen.

[modest mantle]

pretty sure it's $10

[magic rover]

Same, but I'd need to see if they fixed the buttons getting scraped by the glass first, probably not.

[modest mantle]

you have to contact them afterwards or something

[rose dove]

They'll send you a classic screen to slap onto your mini for free though

[robust granite]

so. 3:2 OLED When? lol

[modest mantle]

with a 1:1 screen you can really make anything

just ignore the pixel count

[robust granite]

ngl 1:1. I really only wanna play gb/gbc/gamegear/ mostly lol

[magic rover]

PAR gang where we at

[robust granite]

gonna be a somehow less expensive alternative to the analog pocket lol

[modest mantle]

True, but if you cover the top and bottom with plastic, and write some bad drivers, it could be a 3:2???

[craggy torrent]

cool that you can tell unfunny jokes. Though I'm trying to figure this out before the preorders drop

[wind pasture]

It's a $10 coupon not a 10% off coupon

[robust granite]

34xx is the 3:2 of choice for now.

also kinda related but bigger 3:2 screens are good options for someone that wants 1 device to do both 4:3 and 16:9 systems.

[summer marsh]

They weren’t joking?

[craggy torrent]

ban how do I get the coupon? Do I email sales or something?

[wind pasture]

They shared the coupon code in their announcements channel in the Retroid discord

[robust granite]

cool that you think its a joke. Though if you look in hte official discord's announements. its the first paragraph

[wind pasture]

#899611748577980417 message

[summer marsh]

I just emailed Retroid support asking if I could buy an RP Mini with the classic screen.

It’s a long shot but wish me luck 😆

I figured at least I’d let them know there is demand lol

[robust granite]

they might say, you gotta buy assemble it yourself.

my guess anyways.

[summer marsh]

I’d happily do that

[robust granite]

oh but at least, if you dont already own a classic, you can buy the right mini to match the shell so....thats cool

[robust granite]

they prob would bcz it moves another unit. I have to imagine. especially after the controversy with it at the moment.

selling more old stock prob good for em.

[rough depot]

This is what I'd be interested in tbh

The screen is still just as good for the 4:3 content but you have the extra space for stacked DS/3DS in a device that can actually handle it

Unless I'm reading this wrong and they're just covering the pixels again

[craggy torrent]

i'm not talking about the DIY screen replacement. I am talking about the RP Classic

[summer marsh]

The Mini was already so close to greatness imo. This gets it there, that screen is so good for a lot of systems. With the black console the bars would blend in for 4:3 content

Add that sd865 + Linux support

[wind pasture]

All coupon codes are in the announcement link I provided above.

[craggy torrent]

I saw that @wind pasture thank you.

[wind pasture]

I have sent my email inqury for a new screen and have asked if purchasing the full device would be possible

Once I hear back I'll update you all lmfao

[craggy torrent]

I just have not been on this side of discord so I just realized that someone said something a few days ago about if I had bought a mini I get a discount. I just thought someone who's keeping up with the news better than me would let me know.

[distant widget]

but not sure if this discount would conflict with the new replacement screen policy though (if you interested in that)

so better email them to be sure

[craggy torrent]

I really dont care about the screen tbh. If I do any shaders it will be in docked mode so I don't think it matters

[rough depot]

This doesn't have a docked mode

So

You probably should look over it a little more to make sure you know what you're getting

[rough depot]

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Note that video out is N/A

[merry mango]

dang was that so difficult for them to do in the first place? anbernic gave out oleds with no fuss for the rg556

[magic rover]

Cube on the other hand...

[distant widget]

what issue had rg556 have with the screen?

[brittle tiger]

Gray banding.

They never replaced it or anything, I don’t know what he’s talking about for the “giving it away”.

[distant widget]

something like the below for the DMG screen?

[brittle tiger]

Yup, it’s in a lot of AMOLED screens in the community. Only OLED panel in general that I didn’t remember seeing it on was the RG505.

[merry mango]

i showed them the grey banding, they gave the choice for return and refund, or them sending me an oled

[distant widget]

dont think my rp5 had that, though i didnt use it much yet so might have gone unnoticed

[brittle tiger]

Did they send one without banding?

[merry mango]

good question. we didnt bother replacing it yet lol

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, I’m wondering if it’s due to them being AMOLED and the 505 using the Vita’s regular OLED panel (which is like older school OLED tech).

But I know the effects are a lot less apparent on some AMOLED screens.

[distant widget]

the oled used in this (and dmg) seems to be quite low PWM (even for a OLED) , so those pwm sensitive might need to take note

[brittle tiger]

Huh, I mean the RP Mini’s screen was actually pretty bright to me, and that’s literally the same panel (hence the controversy).

[distant widget]

i talking about PWM, not brightness. if you not sensitive to it its fine, some are

[brittle tiger]

Ah, now I get it. Yeah, I think my eyes in general are weird about that stuff, since I regularly need to actually increase the brightness to higher levels just to see colors more clearly, which is why the O2 Mini was an even worse hell for me (since the brightness that made darker colors actually visible for me also made brighter colors outright near blinding).

[stable atlas]

Yeah, I didn't grow up with sega systems so the layout isn't familiar. But two extra face buttons for the same price...

[summer marsh]

I’ve mentioned this before in this channel but if you are primarily playing stuff like ps1 and snes the 6 button layout is a bad idea imo.

I’m a huge Saturn fan and love that layout, but have tried playing those consoles with my 8bitdo m30 or even a real Saturn controller and they feel wrong on that kind of pad.

The 4 button diamond layout means the buttons are on a different angle. Holding the run button in super Mario world feels weird.

I’d only consider if you love arcade games or Saturn.

Just my 2 cents

[glass orbit]

yeah i will stick to the 4 button layout as it's what i'm familiar with and also for the black bezel

[magic rover]

That said, 6-button is the closest you'll get to the angles of NES/GB/etc face buttons.

Though personally I'm not entirely convinced of 6-button working on this format.

[summer marsh]

I think this wouldn’t feel right either

[merry mango]

im gettting the 6 button, and im getting the 3.92" sp

its bound to happen....

[distant widget]

the shoulder/triggers on this are digital?

[magic rover]

Look like it.

[distant widget]

were they analog on the DMG?

[merry mango]

as someone mentioned previously, the shoulder buttons look really high

but maybe it could be more ergo that way

[stable atlas]

DMG didn’t have shoulder buttons, unless you're talking about ayaneo pocket dmg

[distant widget]

yea, ayaneo pocket dmg, just check and seems to be all digital as well from russ video. so basically no verticals have analog triggers

[stable atlas]

Oh yeah, those are digital

[wintry pecan]

me who bought red/black model

[modest mantle]

Dunno if I'd want analog triggers on a vert... Maybe?

[brittle tiger]

They’re pretty funny on some stuff, but overall if I’d want them on a Vertical, I’d only want something like the GameCube or Wii Classic analog triggers (the ones that go linearly in and out, not the ones in modern controllers).

[summer marsh]

Shenmue won’t be the same on the DMG 😅

[thick isle]

What game needs analogue trigger and doesn’t use analogue stick

[brittle tiger]

Oh I was saying in general for vertical handhelds, but the classic definitely doesn’t need them.

[eager rain]

there are probably a tiny handful of dreamcast games

[pseudo dove]

Godamn how I get a retroid mini square! I need to buy one quick then get the replacement screen !?

Probably start selling the full thing once I place an order for the classic

Hmm £150 currently on Ali with money off

[ashen vault]

Does anyone know when Qualcomm is gonna reveal the SoC/ lift the embargo

[tender socket]

Would make sense as a Densha de GO!! control configuration

[craggy torrent]

not for the mini

[ashen vault]

@delicate ermine There is your oled cube

[lunar pecan]

This looks a LOT better

[ashen vault]

right

[turbid haven]

sadly i bought my mini second hand 😄

[lunar pecan]

sell it again 🤭

[ashen vault]

Ask the person you bought it from to ship the replacement to your address

[turbid haven]

i have already messaged him 😄 @crude sable?!

[ashen vault]

Maybe you can even request the replacement by yourself if you can provide the order number

[turbid haven]

nono, nobody gets my rp mini! i like it too much 😄

[novel crane]

....

I don't need it

[ashen vault]

Sure…

[novel crane]

Seriously tho, very interested to see how this looks irl

[scenic lodge]

Yeah I want to see some real pictures before the preorder starts. I want to know how pinkish berry looks irl

[novel crane]

Pre-orders don't start till end of the day, so we still got time to see

[void mortar]

Seems like they may consider selling the RPMini with the more square screen if people end up liking it

[summer fjord]

Wait, what were they gonna do instead?

[novel crane]

Make a whole new screen for the mini

[void mortar]

^

Which they’re still doing as far as I heard

But this thing about selling the Classic screen Mini is for the current Mini

Honestly hope they do, as I’ve seen a good amount of people say they’d buy the Mini if it has the ~8:7 screen like the Classic has instead

[scenic lodge]

They will still make a new screen for a future mini 2 from what I've seen

[novel crane]

They still are

Ik that

But if they sell the Mini with the classic screen

I might just pick it up

[ashen vault]

It they don’t you can probably sent them an email and ask if they’re willing to send you one

They should have the stock for it

[ashen vault]

Or if they take a long time to implement it on their Shopify store

[novel crane]

Tbh, im still more interested in the actually Classic

Been looking for a powerful vertical for a long time

[summer fjord]

This company puzzles me more by the day. All this trouble just to be able to advertise a 4:3 screen

They could have marketed this as an RG Cube killer without any issues

[novel crane]

Hmm

[solemn sentinel]

I guess people would bitch about it not being 4:3?

[scenic lodge]

Yeah they should have just waited until they have a real custom 4:3 screen for a 4:3 mini

[solemn sentinel]

But in hindsight, what was said about a 4" 4:3 OLED panel essentially not existing must have been true

Given the amount of hoops they jumped through for this

[ashen vault]

They reveal the chipset today

[novel crane]

Where

[ashen vault]

Qualcomm better explain and you can easily run Linux on it

[ashen vault]

https://schedule.gdconf.com/session/unlocking-native-performance-porting-games-to-windows-on-snapdragon-feat-mount-blade-ii-bannerlord-case-study-presented-by-qualcomm-technologies/911790

Actually that’s in 2 days

[novel crane]

I mean

If this means easier porting of linux distros and such to mobile devices

Im game

[ebon forum]

The whole thing is it doesn't work on my brick. Prone to errors, and takes ages.