Retroid Pocket Classic

[simple wyvern]

People are so smart lol. I had zero hopes someone would figure out size yet

[late rock]

Wow that is bigger than I expected

[lunar pecan]

👀

[delicate ermine]

I kinda expect it to be a lil bigger than the rg40xxv, Pocket DMG is 91.5x151x22.5 so 91.5x140x25 would be reasonable

[junior fox]

It’s hard to imagine it being 15mm shorter than the pocket DMG, somehow

And I hope you’re right that it’s closer to what you mentioned

[delicate ermine]

at the very least the bezels seem to be exactly the same size as the Pocket DMG, so 91.5 is pretty much locked in in my book

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, it’s why I wasn’t too worried about the size of it when taking the screen size into account, considering I’m fine with the 35XX and the Classic is both slightly taller and wider than that.

[delicate ermine]

I mean you get 3.4" for integer scaled 3:2 content, 3.6" if you ain't care about that, 3.7" for 4:3 content and 3.9" for 8:7

so while integer scaling is kind of not ideal on this screen tbh, it beats the one on the RP Mini

[brittle tiger]

It’s 1240 horizontal pixels, so I’m fine with just going non-integer, using a sharp-shimmerless shader, and then calling it a day for everything.

[stone ice]

jeez it's a lot bigger compared to the brick than i thought

the proportions on this are so weird too, i'm still not used to it

[merry mango]

i was expecting roughly around rg40v size

[merry mango]

gad damnit just let me buy one now

[warm comet]

My shot at comparison

[merry mango]

or two

i want a 6 button and a dmg

not aya dmg

dmg colorway lol

i think this will be my endgame vertical

[warm comet]

Why both

and not just the 6 button

[merry mango]

cause i like the dmg colors, but the 6 button has 6 buttons

otherwise most likely the 6 button + flip2

[rare magnet]

Put me in the category of "If the 6 button one had a single analog slider and the SD865..."

[warm comet]

Everyone got mad that pocket dmg had a stick. Now people are asking for a stick. Lol

[rare magnet]

Everyone was mad that the DMG cost more than a small car.

[gloomy lichen]

Someone needs to just finally do the magnetic switch tops using software you just put a little joystick thing magnetically on top when you want to joystick the switch it back to the Cross pad when you want a d-pad sort of like the Xbox Elite controller

[brittle tiger]

…You know what, fair point.

It was mostly due to people also wanting a cheaper chipset so that they can get the OLED screen for SNES/NES and GB/GBC without paying around half of $1000, but none the less the fact the joystick sticks out so much was also a reason people didn’t like the stick on that.

[late rock]

Whoa who's everybody if anything the pocket dmg needed another stick

[rare magnet]

(I mean, if the DMG was $200 i'd have gotten one!)

[warm comet]

I'm not arguing with you. But a lot of people were like, bughghdfjklj;sdf v ertical ruined by stick

[rare magnet]

Slider makes ituseful for PSP, N64, Dreamcast, etc.

[warm comet]

I love the DMG, the classic ain't replacing it. But it's also STUPID price right now and hardly available.

[late rock]

I'm not sure why ayaneo couldn't just use two recessed sticks

[brittle tiger]

And if Retroid doesn’t want to use sliders anymore due to how many complaints they got about it for the Flip 1 (aka, before people realized they were irrationally hating on analog sliders for no good reason), then it makes sense to go for more pocketability and not go for sticks on the device itself.

[warm comet]

Hubris.

Arthur is very set on what he feels is best.

[late rock]

Is Arthur the CEO

[warm comet]

Yea

[merry mango]

its arthurs way or the highway

[rare magnet]

His way is to ensure that his processors thermally throttle.

[delicate ermine]

the Classic 6 will only be relevant if it has a SD865 IMO

[merry mango]

whys that?

[rare magnet]

Saturn, most likely.

[brittle tiger]

I wouldn’t even call it hubris to be honest, given AYANEO is pretty much just a side thing for him where he can have whatever fever dream of a handheld idea he has be developed, with them selling it for the sake of making some profit.

At most it’s just wasteful.

[merry mango]

id basically be using 6 button for CPS1-3 lol

[delicate ermine]

we want a slider

[stone ice]

my money laundering scheme theory still stands

[warm comet]

The classic needs to come in at under 200 to make sense (since RP mini/ RP5 exist). So wonder if 865 is feasible at that price point. Maybe a D1200 more likely? idk

D1200 still largely capable outside of stuff needing turnip, which you wouldn't play on this anyway

[delicate ermine]

they won't source a new SoC, that would be a way bigger expense

I think a D900 option for $119 and a SD865 option at $169 would be possible

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-man-idk-i-dont-know-gif-27358524

[merry mango]

SD865 + OLED for under 200?

[late rock]

An 865 for $170 feels a bit generous

[merry mango]

how much was the mini?

[delicate ermine]

but given how they have no USB-C port at the bottom, I kinda doubt any USB-C video out capable SoC will be used in this

so D1100/SD865 are basically out

[warm comet]

Source new? aren't they arleady using for RP4 pro

OR D1100, whatever

same diff

[delicate ermine]

yeah D1100 in RP4pro/Flip2

[warm comet]

That's what I meant

If D1100 gets it cheaper than 865, I would say that makes more sense. Since this isn't made to play high end stuff with stick or 16:9 anyway

[warm comet]

200 now

[merry mango]

yeah, i dont see the clasic being under 200

hm... but i guess money was saved on no sticks...

but i would think the screen alone cost more

[brittle tiger]

I think he’s talking about you using the D1200 as your initial example, since the RP4 Pro used the D1100.

[warm comet]

Yes we've established that, i misremembered the chip

Either way D1100 is capable of what this device would need to play

[delicate ermine]

well, yes, but SD865 has Linux and doing D900/D1100 models will result in this being discontinued fast if they run out of remaining stock

[brittle tiger]

Nah, they were charging $200 for the Mini before they even knew about the screen issues.

Without sticks, they’d already be asking for a lot if the 6-button Classic was the same price due to using the same soc, given the RP Mini can play a lot more games than the Classic can in terms of controls.

[delicate ermine]

either they gonna do a D900/SD865 or they sourced a new lower end SoC and will do like G99/D900 IMO

[late rock]

Hopefully the latter imo

[brittle tiger]

If they want to avoid causing the opposite situation that the RP4 had of people only buying the cheaper option and the more expensive one being the one that does horribly in sales, they need to keep the price to a low enough point where people can debate between “accurate Saturn and Linux for like $170-$180” versus “D900 for like $100-$120”.

[delicate ermine]

depends on how much they gonna ask for a G99 device, if it ain't significantly below 100bucks it makes no sense IMO

well, the G99 is obviously only speculation, so it may be something less powerful

but with the screen being relatively expensive I can't see it being less than $79 at best

[late rock]

I can't see it being less than $100 tbh

[brittle tiger]

I mean, the cheapest G99 handheld available went for $130 with the 720x720 IPS screen. So I don’t see that chipset going for any less on a new handheld with a better screen.

[delicate ermine]

the $79 price point was under the assumption of a low end SoC, like lets say A523

[late rock]

Maybe, but there's also the oled tax

[delicate ermine]

making a $99 G99 model and a $129 D900 one would make the cheaper one not cheap enough to be interesting IMO

[brittle tiger]

Not unless they already happen to have a massive surplus of unused G99’s they want to get rid of (which is the reason I actually can see a D900 Classic going for $100-$120, since they don’t want to keep those).

[late rock]

Imagine if they just... revealed the specs at the same time as the screen

[delicate ermine]

you forgetting that the Unicorn was a way smaller scale device than a new Retroid release

first models being assembled by the guy himself and all

it was quite expensive for what it was

[shrewd adder]

But how would we hype it up with speculation?

[late rock]

If anything it's doing the opposite for me tbh

[scarlet meadow]

Not sure if this has been posted so surprise ! Maybe.....

https://x.com/Retroid0fficial/status/1897973360342032706

Retroid Pocket Official (@Retroid0fficial) on X

We have some screen details for ya’ll

X · Mar 7, 2025, 11:31 AM

Yes on the screen but still wish it had at least 1 slider preferably 2

They need use this screen on the Mini too

[delicate ermine]

RP2S+ with this screen and SD865 would be goat

and yes we know about the screen

[rose dove]

If only retroid would release a pocketable oled with 2 sticks

[scarlet meadow]

Just replace the Mini's screen with this screen and a lot of issues would be solved , mainly the shader mess

[delicate ermine]

I like the RP2S design way more

[scarlet meadow]

That's fine and works for me too

[delicate ermine]

also I don't think Retroid can get this screen with a full glass front

it's basically the same bezels used on the Ayaneo

[scarlet meadow]

Never was a fan of all glass front anyway

Really do hope we see a RP2S successor though

[stone ice]

good

[merry mango]

good

[novel crane]

Good

All glass fronts are a sin

[late rock]

I kind of like them ngl

I get why people don't but they look nice

[novel crane]

Exaggeration aside, they can be nice

But on handhelds im going to use consistent as a daily driver, Im very iffy about that

especially as a fingerprint magnet

[turbid haven]

it is a lot of accidents waiting to happen

[novel crane]

I already hate it as is on phones

[rose dove]

I've broken glass backs a lot more often than glass fronts but plastic is warm and cozy

[eager rain]

you can crop just a few pixels of overscan and be at 4x

I believe in you

[delicate ermine]

I'm aware, 5 pixel left and right won't matter for MOST games

[eager rain]

but also integer scaling n64 is a lie

the n64 changes resolution every 5 seconds, nothing is actually a standard res (and it's usually anamorphic), different panels and UI etc etc etc are rendered at different resolutions...

so you're better off just forcing 4:3 and slapping a crt shader on there

honestly probably same for ps1

[delicate ermine]

yeah I wasn't exactly thinking about 3d systems

[eager rain]

I'm excited to just do 5x NES/SNES with a bit of overscan all around

(yes, that means I'm doing PAR aspect not DAR for those systems, I understand the arguments for both sides, I use whichever suits the screen I'm using at the time)

[floral current]

what's new in the RPC department

any news on specs

or price

[summer marsh]

It’s Friday so probably not until next week?

[novel crane]

Screen got confirmed to be the same as the Ayaneo DMG

So far nothing outside of that

Probably won't get anything till next week

[floral current]

[pseudo dove]

Man I hate this drip feeding info 🤣

[novel crane]

Hey, it just gives me time to keep playing sonic unleashed and speculate

[pseudo dove]

I need to get that into my steam deck

[eager rain]

I love it. All the info drops at 330 am and I wake up to a billion pings

[junior fox]

Can I buy it yet?

No?

Cool

[inland frost]

fixed the rp classic!

[late rock]

Unironically might do this

Depending on how powerful it is

[modest mantle]

What I miss?

[late rock]

Nothing

Just confirmation of oled screen really

[modest mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/katie-gif-2663502014754240867

[warm comet]

but why... just get an android phone at that point lol

[late rock]

That aspect ratio

Could be good for 3ds 🤔

[analog thunder]

It could be a neat option just to use if you want sticks

And then take it out and have it more portable if you don't

[late rock]

Yeah that's what I mean

People buy giant grips for these things anyway, might as well get more controls while I'm at it

Idk I feel like a telescopic controller is actually the more practical option here

[analog thunder]

That thing can't possibly be comfortable to hold

[late rock]

Yeah it looks a little too thick

[analog thunder]

The corners...

That looks like it's meant to just hold the device when you're not using it

I don't think it actually is meant for that but that's what it looks like

[late rock]

Whoops

This one looks better

[late rock]

It's dual purpose, the listing calls it gripcase

[obsidian roost]

i got one like this for the brick ... main fucktion is the case anyway

[eager rain]

you wouldn't last an hour in the asylum where they raised me

[stone ice]

i have one of those for my 35xx plus, it's comfy with the grip but you'll catch me dead before you see me use a grip on anything

[coral lodge]

How can people support Retroid after they are refusing the returns of RP Mini?

[stone ice]

there's plenty of reasons to not buy anything from any of these companies

[late rock]

All of these companies have had some sort of scandal, some more than others (ayaneo)

[delicate ermine]

I know the screens for the RP5 Flip 2 and Classic won't have such issues, that's why

also I didn't bought a Mini

[brittle tiger]

Same reason why I bought an RG34XX and RGCubeXX after the shit show that was dealing with Anbernic Customer Support over the RG Cube.

I decided to never buy anything from Anbernic that was more than $100, because I knew I outright cannot resist boycotting Anbernic stuff entirely unless I point blank am not interested in the device.

And even then, I’m still waiting like Russ on getting a response from them before passing full judgment, since I already asked Retroid if I’d be able to get a refund (just as a test), and they actually were fully willing to refund me for it (I’d have to ship it to them, but they would reimburse me for the costs of that shipment).

In other words, somehow Retroid Customer Support cannot decide for themselves on what they’re doing.

[ebon forum]

Betrayal!!!!

[late rock]

🤷‍♂️

[summer marsh]

Because a 6 button OLED device that can play Saturn is the dream 🥰

[late rock]

Ngl I thought you were him for a second and got very confused

[brittle tiger]

Oh no, Snake’s meeting Big Boss, watch out for FOXDIE (or he’s meeting himself from the future, in which case watch out for paradoxes)!

[junior fox]

I was thinking to myself, now that was an about face

[summer marsh]

No way, I’ll never have ordered anything so fast if they don’t gimp the Saturn edition 😉

[merry mango]

I’ve never preordered a handheld before, but I will for this

[unkempt frost]

Big same tho

[ebon forum]

Boom

Scaling issue that kills shaders

[wild beacon]

overblown imo

still a great 4:3 OLED GC/PS2 machine

[eager rain]

Those are pc systems for me, I just want OLED ps1 with a CRT shader

Using beetle psx

[summer marsh]

Outrun 2006 would be glorious on this thing

I may need to go to therapy if this doesn't have an sd865 higher end option

[wintry pecan]

i changed that n64 edit to be smarter

[late rock]

Hmm not sure how to feel about this

[wintry pecan]

original edit, mine has better ergo

[late rock]

I think I prefer your idea, though the dpad does seem a little close to the face buttons

[wintry pecan]

yeah i could have spaced it a bit better 😄

[late rock]

Not a lot of room to work with tbf

[inland frost]

No it doesn’t, at least in my opinion

[wintry pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/dude-hey-dude-perfect-gif-25407803

[summer marsh]

n64 is such a difficult system to nail the controls. The og controller was so unique, it’s hard to map it on most controllers/handhelds and you almost need to come up with something different on a game by game basis.

[nocturne gazelle]

you mean you guys dont have 3 hands?

[wintry pecan]

Nope just 3 legs

[brittle tiger]

The main thing that makes it especially difficult to work with is the fact that the 3-pronged control was explicitly designed around the concept of you using either the L button and D-Pad (for 2D platformers, that one strategy game, and that one fighting game in the Mortal Kombat port), or the Z-trigger and Analog Stick for literally everything else. No games were supposed to use both the D-Pad and Analog Stick, so they went with that design because it was one of the first controllers with an Analog Stick, and Nintendo’s attempt is what showed Sony how to instead do the DualShock.

[junior fox]

You think Sony would have made their controller have a third grip if Nintendo hadn’t shit up the place so bad with the 64 controller?

Is that what you’re saying?

[wintry pecan]

thats why i arranged it like i did

If playing N64 youll be holding stick and a/b
If playing other games use the c buttons as face and the dpad or stick

[summer marsh]

The dpad is sooo close to the buttons though it would almost be unusable for dpad games.

Though the layout would be pretty good for most n64 games, it’s a tough one to optimize for 😵‍💫

[wintry pecan]

adjusted it

[languid bone]

Like rp 5 mini optimized?

[ornate sail]

😉 That beeing said, aside the specific RPM issue, it is not 1080p and CRT masks a more likely to look odd.

[wintry pecan]

i think stick top is better for the form factor but heres dpad top anyway

[candid jasper]

And I think at that point you just have to redesign the start/select buttons and move them near the Menu/FN button. Down there in no mans land makes them tough for start/select heavy handhelds.

[wintry pecan]

yeah im officially bored, use your imagination

[candid jasper]

No please continue to slave away to an unpleasable crowd

[wintry pecan]

[magic blaze]

The funny

[ebon forum]

Idc about the shaders, the lying is the problem. A Russ statement tommorow or so will educate me more

[turbid haven]

shhh the mob will get you 😄

[stone ice]

as someone that uses shaders for every system i can, it is pretty unacceptable

[delicate ermine]

it's wild that they are still selling it like nothings up

[distant widget]

might have been better if they use the dmg screen for the mini previously. or maybe this affect their decision to use it for this classic

[delicate ermine]

dmg screen on the mini would be nearly enough to sell it to me

I would vastly prefer it in an RP2S+ tho

[brittle tiger]

Welp, they said they’d have a response in around an hour, let’s see what they end up saying.

Either me or someone else will be posting that response when it’s made.

[pseudo dove]

They have 2 products about to come out, should be positive

[delicate ermine]

This is kind of a joke, glad I have no Mini

[brittle tiger]

…Well, this is a response.

[delicate ermine]

even if they accept a whooping 200 returns (lol), excluding shipping and tax, people are at least $50 out even if they return it

at that point just selling it to someone else makes more sense tbh

[scarlet meadow]

Only first 200?
Worst EB limited offer yet , what a joke

[lost salmon]

the first retroid pocket was a pandora box 5s in handheld lol

[scarlet meadow]

Then Retroid turns around and resells them at a slightly discount price so are they really loosing

[turbid haven]

I would make a 'don't rely on shaders for your gaming happiness' joke but yeah this is pretty bullshit.

and yeah thats not a great response from them either

[rose dove]

Yes, just releasing statements like this is losing. What a mess

[stone ice]

lmfao limited edition refunds

this is even worse

sorry, no refund, you lost the raffle

[solemn sentinel]

I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but I'd hope that the Classic doesn't have the same screen issues with shaders and overlays

[stone ice]

it won't

[delicate ermine]

does it even matter? with them not paying back the shipping and return shipping, you are out so much, that just selling it on the marketplace would be better

[scarlet meadow]

Different screens so hopefully no , does the DMG ?

[delicate ermine]

screen on the Flip 2 is RP5 screen and Pocket DMG also doesn't has issues, so it's basically just the shit panel they sourced for the Mini

[stone ice]

10 bucks coupon for everyone else is also laughable

[scarlet meadow]

This might will definitely have people leery buy any Retroid going forward

[stone ice]

as good as their products are, they are constantly in hot shit

[night crag]

im still shocked that no play testers noticed this issue

[brittle tiger]

The wild part is they’ve usually had the best responses to these types of issues, which just makes a response like this even more egregiously bad.

Like, holy shit, they outright said “we don’t expect many people to actually return it, only 50 have tried so far”, so why the hell would you put a goddamn limit on returns in the first place?

[rose dove]

Both time and total number of returns

[turbid haven]

given how many people dickride them while slating anbernic and co, i imagine they will be okay going forward

[delicate ermine]

in the first place their return conditions make it less viable than just selling it for anyone in Europe to do so on this issue, so the 200 devices return limit is nearly 100% US buyers

[scarlet meadow]

Didn't Joey bring this up?

[night crag]

i mean before release to reviewers, during development

[ashen vault]

I guess they are a small company and the amount of refunds would cause them to not have enough funds to

1. pay for flip 2 and classic build material
2. salaries
3. other business related costs like rent, electricity, logistics etc

[brittle tiger]

And yet their only response to people saying “you’re limiting the number of refunds?” Is to point blank claim that they’re confident not many people will refund in the first place.

[ashen vault]

Yes there is some wishful thinking involved

[brittle tiger]

They shouldn’t be saying stuff like this at all. That just makes their initial statement look even worse.

[ashen vault]

I also don’t like how they are reducing this issue being “shader -related” when gamma and others showed that it’s always apparent, even in the boot loader

They are pushing out their products way too fast

[rose dove]

Confident enough to make empty statements but not enough to actually stand behind them

[ashen vault]

No quality control

That’s how the orange grey minis made it out the factory

[delicate ermine]

the CRT suckers are just a minority according to David, don't worry

[high hemlock]

The orange grey situation was hilarious. It amazes me how it just slipped past everyone in Retroid and only found out when it reached buyers' hands.

When it should be one of the easiest things to QC.

Like, just look at it.

[turbid haven]

they probably are a minority tbh 😄

[brittle tiger]

Yup, although I’ll give them this, they aren’t currently trying to harass other people into not commenting unless it’s to complain.

Brain’s pulling some nonsense that only makes our argument look worse.

[delicate ermine]

maybe he is working for Retroid

[ashen vault]

Right? That’s what I’ve been thinking

[lyric flax]

It’s insane to me. A whole batch of colors. When trying to find a proper fan-taken photo of the white and orange mini on the mini discord channel, I had to scroll nearly to the bottom. There’s way more photos grey/orange mini’s than white/orange

[wild beacon]

Oof

this is a bad look, they should have never said they are capping returns at 200 units

[void mortar]

This statement from Retroid looks like it had as much time put into it as they did QCing the RPMini

[wild beacon]

the funny thing is that they'd probably wouldn't have had more than 200 people returning it anyway

they should have just kept that part quiet

[surreal gyro]

All the people complaining are still preordering at least one of their next releases and still doing it batch 1. 🤣 Talk with your wallet.

[void mortar]

I will simply wait like a smart man and not preorder nor buy this on release.
Helps that I can’t buy it for a long while anyways

Seen too many reviews on their previous products and the kind of issues they’ve had to not wanna at the least wait beforehand

[surreal gyro]

People just want to complain and have zero conviction. It's laughable and sad.

[turbid haven]

shhh you said the quiet part loud 😄

[distant widget]

Are they stopping the sale of new units? Or are they assuming every new buyer is aware of the issue and is willing to accept it?

[surreal gyro]

Stop sales of the mini? 🤣 No

[brittle tiger]

No shit.

[turbid haven]

this has been an entertaining afternoon

[brittle tiger]

That’s literally what I’ve outright been trying to tell them.

[surreal gyro]

Just wait til more people wake up. Get the popcorn ready 😅

[delicate ermine]

shit will only blow up after Stubbs made a video

[wild beacon]

Russ was actually working on a video on the scaling issue

Retroid better back pedal quickly

[delicate ermine]

or him

idk

both are kinda same same but different

[turbid haven]

I don't see them backpedaling

[delicate ermine]

they can't afford to anyway

the amount of returned Minis would end up being insane

like what would have happened if they were like "we can't fix issues with the RP4, so send it back if you are dissatisfied" right before the RP5 launches 😂

totally would bankrupt them

so they made it intentionally not viable to do so for basically anyone outside of China, maybe the US can still use those 200 returns... but from the EU, lol

would be funny if someone decides to sue the shit out of them over it, given how they officially operate as a French company, but anyway

[late rock]

They operate as a French company? Huh, the more you know

[obsidian roost]

Like its hiding of Sunday in china so unlikely anything until monday

[ebon forum]

fr*nch🤮 (not serious for the french🙂 👍 guy here)

[simple grove]

Soz if already asked. But how do we claim these vouchers? Will they be sent automatically to those who purchased the mini?

[scarlet meadow]

There will be a IGG to claim vouchers , first 200 only

[modest mantle]

This looks hot. I like how the dpad actually forms some kinda pattern with the "random design lines"

Lines are just kinda weird to me

[delicate ermine]

you only get it if you send back your mini for a refund (shipping cost not included and you have to pay to ship it back as well)

[brittle tiger]

Oh no, they definitely could’ve if it really was just the “50 requests now, maybe 100 by the time things are said and done” they claimed it was.

…Then they made it way worse by putting all those bullshit limits on top of people already having to pay shipping, and now there’s likely way more than just 200 people demanding a refund because of the principle of the matter, with many of the people who want to keep their Mini outright fully agreeing with those demanding refunds.

[ashen vault]

nah that's unprofitable, of course people have to be fortunate enough to find that information themselves and e-mail retroid with their order number to claim any vouchers

[delicate ermine]

yeah, they totally shot themselves into the foot there, but it was never only 200 people

[brittle tiger]

They, assuming it was true, outright said that they had an out, and then proceeded to not take it by making the situation worse for no reason.

[delicate ermine]

they whole "you can return it later, if we can't fix it"-thing is majorly biting them

should have just accepted returns back then and moved on

[brittle tiger]

Oh I definitely can agree on it likely not being only 200 people who are bothered by the screen, I’m just taking into account the likely number of people who don’t like it enough to both want a refund and are willing to pay the shipping (so mostly US citizens and maybe some countries with much smaller VAT).

And then they made it significantly worse by saying they’d only honor the refunds for like 200 people, and then everyone else can “get fucked I guess?”, and now we’ve got way more people wanting refunds, and most people outright losing all interest in the RP Classic and Flip 2.

[summer marsh]

I’m still excited for the Classic. Not defending this at all but I still see Retroid as one of the better companies quality wise even after this.

Feels like with all of these Chinese handhelds you are taking a bit of a gamble no matter which company it is.

[fading thistle]

yeah, it requires a mentality shift I'm trying to accept. Buy from large western brand = use warranty/support. Buy cheap asian handheld, expect to buy another if needed. I bought like 8 in total, lost some wo/ repair

[void mortar]

I'm just now thinking about what would've happened to Retroid as a company if they had given similar statements about much worse issues in the past like the hinge issues on the Flip, or the triggers on the RP4.
I'm not saying a screen issue of this sort is ok either, but this is the kind of thing they can recover from

Still, really left a bad taste in my mouth to see them handle this the way they did :/

[scarlet meadow]

Im just waiting for the eventual announcement of the Mini + with DMG Screen

[high hemlock]

I honestly won't be surprised if they end up not honoring any refunds at all by responding to requests a few days later and claim that the 200 quota has already been reached.

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/plan-conspiracy-theories-gif-27390691

[modest mantle]

Companies gonna be shady

The general moral of the story

Even big American tech tries to sell failures as features

[brittle tiger]

I feel like the fact they’re handling it this way for an issue that wouldn’t even demand something like that response makes it even worse, since it shows they’re willing to sweep things under the rug if they have any way to excuse it as being “not broken”(like recommending shaders that “work”).

You can’t excuse a broken analog trigger or broken hinge as “working properly”, but they’ve already shown full willingness to use Community recommended shaders as an excuse for the screen working properly.

[void mortar]

I’m ngl, even with me still likely wanting to buy a Flip 2 despite this, I can’t say I’m not a bit cautious of whatever else Retroid ends up doing from here on out.
You’re absolutely on the nose with this

[brittle tiger]

Nah, I’d still believe they were planning to honor those 200 specifically because they’re likely unwilling to honor more than that, and that they were too fucking stupid to realize that publicly putting the limitation would only make the situation even worse.

[modest mantle]

Wonder if it's because that's all they had for stock to replace

[brittle tiger]

If they really were planning on not honoring any, they would’ve just lied about trying to honor them and that “there must be something wrong with your credit card company or even PayPal”.

[modest mantle]

Possible it'd be difficult for them to purchase the stock to honor more than 200. But at that point they should at least offer store credit or partial refund or something

[brittle tiger]

This isn’t for replacing them, this is purely for refunds.

[modest mantle]

Oh. Lul. Like full refund?

[brittle tiger]

Also they are offering store credit…that being a $10 discount for the RP Classic or Flip 2.

[modest mantle]

$10 pretty bad. Honestly makes more sense to offer a higher credit or partial refund to everyone who purchased

[brittle tiger]

Yup, they’re only gonna be honoring 200 proper refunds, and you have to pay for shipping (so EU and other countries with significant VAT are already screwed), on top of it only being 1 week from now till next week that they’ll be honoring it.

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Pretty nutty. Understand financially refunding everyone might not be possible. But everyone should get equal compensation. Then people can argue over whether it's enough or not. But this way def isn't equally fair

[turbid haven]

And the time it took for them to realize the issue was unfixable and missed communication messages on top

Maybe this will finally teach people who put them on a pedestal while slating the other companies 😄

[void mortar]

Idk, I’ve been online long enough to know people will make excuses for just about anything no matter what others say 💀

[turbid haven]

I just give them the slow clap

[brittle tiger]

Oh I’m still gonna be pissed at Anbernic for the shit they pulled on me with the Cube, 405M, and even 40XX H, as well as Powkiddy.

All this does is put Retroid in the same shit pile, with the added bullshit of making all the trash talk Chris and the Retroid Discord mods would regularly give for other companies really freaking hypocritical.

[turbid haven]

That too

[void mortar]

Reminder that companies are not your friend

[ebon forum]

Magicx is the only good one left

15 dollar mini m coupon

Unlimited refunds

They fixed the charger issue after batch 1

[brittle tiger]

Like, I seriously cannot understate how annoyed I am because this outright could’ve been solved by them admitting it was an issue they couldn’t fix and offering the refunds way earlier.

[turbid haven]

I did get the impression you were slightly miffed

[brittle tiger]

They genuinely were legit better than most for these types of issues, and then they suddenly decide to shit the bed with the Mini harder than any other company has done so far.

Like, for gods sake, even fucking AYANEO was still offering refunds for the Flip when they first claimed they were gonna cancel production.

[modest mantle]

Eh. They're all good until they get too popular to fail

[brittle tiger]

Unironically, Retroid was the one company I was legit fully comfortable actually recommending to people outside the hobby if they were willing to pay the price for their usual handhelds due to the fact they had legit better customer service than even some larger scale companies.

You can probably guess I’m “a bit more miffed than most” because I was too outright foolish to guess they could pull something like this.

[late rock]

I can't really think of any scandalous things trimui has done in recent memory

[ebon forum]

they trimmed the UI!!!

think of the UI's family

[late rock]

Damn, I forgot about that

Now if trimui would just release a trimui smart pro ai+ ultra max I would be set

[sinful forge]

pretty sure they included currently active ports like celeste on their memory card with the TrimUI Brick

[late rock]

I guess that's true yeah, though they wouldn't be the only ones

[brittle tiger]

And even then, they pulled a fuck up even worse than Retroid’s current fuck up twice.

But they’re at least fully willing to acknowledge that those were genuine fuck ups and are doing everything they can to prove they’re trying to do good, to the point of even sending dev units way before consumer units solely so that devs could check and confirm the devices are “exactly as advertised”, meaning we’d have verification from trusted community members that the device is legit, we wouldn’t just be placing our trust in MagicX alone.

[late rock]

Twice? Wasn't it just the rk3226 situation?

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, the rk3326 situation happened twice.

[late rock]

Oh damn

[ebon forum]

mini m and what ele

[brittle tiger]

The Mini M situation was just more understandable because it was outright mislabeled as an rk3562 chip by the provider.

[ebon forum]

their coupon for the mini m fuckup is more than the rp mini fuckup coupon

despite costing 1/3 the price

[brittle tiger]

XU10. Advertised as rk3326S, sold with rk3326.

[ebon forum]

the r36s clones are so weird to me

all the same

yet somehow different?

do we have any preferred r36s?

[brittle tiger]

Yup, that as well since it was effectively the only proper refund they could give (since the seller was Ampown and not themselves, so they couldn’t force Ampown to stop selling them, to change the listed specs, or to even give refunds, only AliExpress could force them to).

[silent glade]

Stuff like this is why I only buy anbernic devices from their eBay store. They’re priced higher but eBay makes them take the returns if something is not right.

[brittle tiger]

Retroid does not have that excuse when even their freaking AliExpress seller is their own parent company.

[brittle tiger]

Don’t even trust that, I got the RG Cube from their EBay and it took 2 weeks just for them to send me the replacement screen they publicly promised to send to people, and then it took another 2 weeks to get them to replace my Cube when the replacement screen had even worse backlight bleed than my first screen (and I couldn’t swap that one back because it got dead pixels by the time I got the replacement screen).

[brittle tiger]

At this point, I’d literally only recommend either buying Used from someone else (so that you know about any potential issues right from the get go) or waiting literally 3-4 months for those types of issues to get phased out as batch 1 is completely emptied.

[eager rain]

at this point when people ask me about retro handhelds I direct them to 8bitdo and tell them to just get an sn30 pro for their laptop.

[silent glade]

I received a device that wouldn’t boot one time and they tried to give me the runaround in a message, I escalated to ebay and got a paid return label and full refund in 2 days. YMMV I guess

[turbid haven]

i remember that 😦

[brittle tiger]

Worst part is it took the next 2 weeks to get them to send me a shipping label instead of making me pay for the shipment.

It took another week after USPS said they delivered it for Anbernic to acknowledge that they received it, and then another week for them to ship it.

[obsidian roost]

Buy from large western brand = use warranty/support
thats not always true either ... the asusu frying SDcards was only really acknowledged after a year and only appliable in US and canada

[obsidian roost]

isnt this basically technically similar situation ... aka issue caused by the supplier of the screen ... whichw asnt know casue the screenw asnt originally intended for gaming

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, and MagicX’s responses were significantly better than Retroid’s, on top of the fact that them being unable to give full refunds themselves is understandable, since they outright weren’t the sellers (Ampown was), they were only the manufacturers.

[delicate ermine]

they only designed the thing basically, manufactured by the company that did the chip scam and also was responsible for the locked down firmware that tried to hide it

[brittle tiger]

And even then, I also still fully understand and don’t blame anyone that still doesn’t trust them.

I’m not gonna give Retroid any special favors or trust when they’re handling the situation in a significantly worse manner, especially when I outright still waited for Gamma’s recommendation before getting the Zero 28.

[delicate ermine]

Retroid should just offer a partial refund to all Mini buyers, better go out without profit than totally go out

[unkempt frost]

I'm not going through the hassle of a return. It's mostly just disappointing to hear that there's no fix coming. But I'm not paying to ship it back. I'll just sell it to another US person here.

[turbid haven]

i can offer ten crisp english pounds for it

[scenic lodge]

This method works pretty well https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/gravis_gamepad_details.png

[echo torrent]

Oh man I had a gravis back in the day, wow

I've begun to accept that there will be no joystick variant... it will be a souped up brick

[scarlet meadow]

Until you loose the joystick module

[summer marsh]

Haha I used to have one of these

Takes me back

[echo torrent]

windows 95 era

good times

[scenic lodge]

I am pretty sure I had one, but I don't remember using it. Must have given it away.

[echo torrent]

pretty sure I bought mine to play FF7 for windows because we didn't have a PS1 at the time

that's the one lol

[scenic lodge]

the metal lug in the dpad was smart. can't remember if the stick had a metal core or not, but that would have been best.

[echo torrent]

I'm pretty sure the stick was fully plastic

[scenic lodge]

that would be too easy to break

well, at least for people like me who death grip their controllers. relax? I AM RELAXED!! 🤣

[fading thistle]

There’s tons of companies out there, you picked one example (not familiar with that). One example is not a pattern. I’ve had no trouble getting steam decks, consoles, Apple Watches etc easily entirely replaced at no cost

I’m sure there is also the opposite, companies doing amazing with cheap products

[echo torrent]

I guess they were easy to break... lol

[modest mantle]

This a nipple controller?

[echo torrent]

I suppose if your idea of a nipple aligns with the artists behind the legend of legaia instruction manual, then yes

[modest mantle]

You read my mind, or just haven't seen enough nipples. I'm glad to finally be represented

[unkempt frost]

That's what I had, also for FFVII

https://tenor.com/view/matt-damon-old-ageing-matt-damon-gif-5219578

[unkempt frost]

I thought that was just loose cloth swaying with her jumping back, but now I can't unsee the foot-long nipple

[floral current]

Let’s hope rp classic doesn’t have scaling issues too

[merry mango]

Did the aya dmg have any scaling issues?

[delicate ermine]

it won't as it is a screen we know

[floral current]

If retroid is to be believed

[merry mango]

I would think from here on out, manufacturers would incorporate something into the fine print that mentions something about scalability

[delicate ermine]

highly doubt there is a different 1240x1080 31:27 OLED panel

[floral current]

Right good thing they haven’t lied about a devices resolution before

[tepid harbor]

They weren’t trying to lie about the res, it’s like a weird screen quirk as it was likely a vr screen

This screen is a known property and iirc is the Ayaneo one

[brittle tiger]

And…now Chris had to leave the Retroid Discord as well as several other social media platforms because he got doxxed by Reddit.

[tepid harbor]

Damn

Ok that’s not deserved

[novel crane]

WTF

Look

[tepid harbor]

Chris was a social media manager

[novel crane]

I get being pissed about the mini situation

And understandable wanting retroid to do right

But doxxing someone doesn't make shit better

[ebon forum]

wasnt that like a day or two ago

[tepid harbor]

No he was on here today

The retroid discord

[brittle tiger]

Nope, he was still here even before then. He just left like a few minutes ago.

[tepid harbor]

It probably happened recently

[delicate ermine]

yeah just a few minutes ago basically

[ebon forum]

i swear the retroid mods had to remove it

[floral current]

Stubbs says he resigned

[turbid haven]

its interesting that what breaks the handheld community wasnt ambernic, wasnt the pocket evo thermals, it was this

[tepid harbor]

Damn

I mean if I were him I’d still wait the next few days for a response

[floral current]

Feel bad for the guy

[tepid harbor]

But this is like by far the worst day for retroid

Worse than when that rp3 video dropped

[floral current]

Eh the Taki video more so just tanked his reputation

[tepid harbor]

It influenced rp3 sales to bomb

It only tanked it in retrospect

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, because the Reddit mods have to remove a comment that is literally doxing someone. So all Stubbs knew before my comment is that “he resigned”.

[turbid haven]

well original rp3 was horrific, then rp3 plus so soon after

[novel crane]

Tbh, the Pocket Evo thermals (and overall QC) should've made more waves than this did, but priority i guess

[turbid haven]

pocket evo price point i

[ebon forum]

Oh fuck

[floral current]

Yeah but AyaNeo QC is shoddy all around and the AyaNeo community knows that

Retroid fans think retroid can do no wrong

That’s why this blew up so much

[steady mortar]

Great Retroid is not only cooked but this is unbelievably cooked

[floral current]

Cooked, served, and eaten whole

[ebon forum]

they shot the messenger

[floral current]

Yeah

Downside of the SM manager

[ebon forum]

reddit seems to be perfectly content with the fact that the screen is such

"who uses shaders anyway"

[floral current]

I mean I do but

[ebon forum]

i would never shoot sean❤️❤️

[novel crane]

Which is a stupid mindset to have as every company is fallible to fucking up

[turbid haven]

dont think i have used shaders yet

[novel crane]

I use shaders on older systems

Nothing past PS1

[floral current]

Yeah I just carry myself with the mindset of companies only care about money, not about you

[ebon forum]

sean from magicx❤️

[summer marsh]

Healthy skepticism is warranted, however being overly cynical isn’t a great mindset imo.

I do think a lot of people that work for these companies genuinely love gaming and want to make great devices.

[floral current]

definitely true

[turbid haven]

being overly cynical always seems so exhausting and usually makes the person an unlikable fuck

[novel crane]

Man, this is gonna be a loong month for handhelds

not in a good way

[turbid haven]

Yep 😄 im pretty much in my own personal endgame now so been looking to downsize

[novel crane]

Tbh, Im just looking for a companion device for my Odin 2 and my DS

[floral current]

i've sold off a few handhelds these past few weeks

really just sticking with my brick and 406V

[turbid haven]

im slowly pairing down some of mine, just need to wait on moniesto come in etc

[novel crane]

Like, im still interested in the Pocket Classic ngl as my middle ground, but rn im really gonna hold off until things get resolved

[floral current]

yeah I'm holding off on the classic for now

the 6 button looks nice but

[brittle tiger]

Oh hell no, I saw a lot of them going irrationally insane over it, so I estimate they finally realized they went too far in fucking doxxing someone and are now going the opposite direction to look less guilty.

[gusty socket]

Yeah I was hyped for the Classic, but I'm definitely not buying anything from Retroid right away...

[ebon forum]

they got downvoted

[novel crane]

Guess my current hype now is Linux on Odin 2 and Rocknix

[summer marsh]

feels good honestly, I am down to a few handhelds

[eager rain]

Yup. Buy used after it gets cfw if there are no issues

[floral current]

It does feel really good

[delicate ermine]

well, without Chris we won't get any info on this anyway

gotta wait and see what happens

[floral current]

I feel bad for the next poor sod they choose to take his place

[pseudo dove]

Release classic asap

[delicate ermine]

as if anyone would be stupid enough to take up the position

they gotta have to force the Chinese guy with the best English to handle it and that will be it

[scarlet meadow]

Reddit is literally the worst place to be on for anything

[tepid harbor]

It’s at least not Twitter

[floral current]

It’s on par with twitter

[brittle tiger]

The literal only good subreddits left on there are the same subreddits that outright hate the usual Redditors to the point of insta-banning for their shit, and even they’re slowly losing in the battle against r/all lurkers.

[floral current]

It’s an echo chamber where dissenting opinions are buried

[tepid harbor]

As someone who goes on Twitter daily, reddit is basically a safe haven

I fucking hate Twitter and its algorithms only getting worse and worse with musk

[floral current]

You must not go that deep into Reddit then lol

[tepid harbor]

I’m sure basic bitch Reddit like r/memes or something is dogshit but u can choose communities better

I feel like every niche twitter community is toxic as fuck

[floral current]

So are niche subreddits

When used for what it was designed for the upvote system is great

Unfortunately people use it as social media to get their imaginary internet points

[tepid harbor]

But yea, I’m such a Twitter hater

Only social media worse than Twitter is snapchat

Maybe instagram

[floral current]

Twitter was a shit hole before muskrat bought it lol

[tepid harbor]

It was

But musk also made it worse

At least I could see likes

At least I wasn’t getting nazi shit in my timeline

[floral current]

I don’t do much of any social media cuz it’s all garbage

[tepid harbor]

Real

[floral current]

I have Pinterest for food recipes and interior design ideas lol

And discord

That’s about it

[tepid harbor]

TikTok has a godlike algorithm but its algorithms is a little “too” good so you get crazy addicted and get brainrot

[floral current]

Yeah I swore off short form stuff

It made me feel like garbage

[tepid harbor]

And Bluesky is super nontoxic to a fault, it’s too basic and clean for me

I’m not saying I don’t want a positive environment but it lowkey felt like a cult

[floral current]

Oh yeah Bluesky exists right

Forgot about them lol

[novel crane]

you also have an actually blacklist too

[floral current]

Bluesky is alright

[tepid harbor]

Like from midsommar

[floral current]

Just really empty

[tepid harbor]

Its not like that bad but its just not interesting

[brittle tiger]

That’s for the best. I’d agree with FruitLoops on the whole “Twitter is way worse than Reddit”, but that’s solely because you can still pick and choose which Subreddits you go on (and I haven’t even been a member of the RH Handhelds Subreddit since the SP stuff), while Twitter’s algorithm has only gotten even worse since Muskrat bought it.

[floral current]

Yeah the default Bluesky identity “har har twitter garbage lol”

[brittle tiger]

In the end, the best form of socialization is in real life, social media is not a great option in general.

[tepid harbor]

Yea because the worst ppl you’ll know will never go outside

Also people are nicer in person because there’s no consequences towards being an asshole online

[floral current]

That’s not true for everyone lol

I’ve met some people who are insufferable assholes irl

[tepid harbor]

Retro handhelds on average is some of the lesser toxic community with some freak exceptions (like today with the doxxing) mostly because the average person is older

[tepid harbor]

Ofc but that’s more of an anomaly compared to online

Everyone acts a bit meaner online just because it’s through text

[floral current]

Yeah this RH server is one of the most chill I’ve been in

Of course there’s some toxic bad apples but they’re rare and just get a block from me

[tepid harbor]

Yea

And the person who doxxed got immediately condoned

Something a lot of people fail to realize

[delicate ermine]

happens if you ban everyone who isn't of your exact opinion

[tepid harbor]

This isn’t like Steven universe community where people sent death threats to someone for not drawing rose fat enough and thought they were being progressive

[floral current]

Yup

[tepid harbor]

As a famous example

[dreamy hull]

Chances are Chris would have left eventually even without the drama from the Mini

[tepid harbor]

Yea for sure

[brittle tiger]

Yup, but being doxxed was the reason he left right now.

[tepid harbor]

He never opened up about it but he was like the sole person from the US retroid has hired with money

[dreamy hull]

Sounds reasonable

[delicate ermine]

I mean it's pretty fair to assume that he didn't knew about their last announcement regarding the mini in advance, as he tried to get them to take back the insane 200 unit limit and all

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, it’s almost like it was a ridiculously horrible thing for literally anyone to do to someone, much less to what is effectively just the messenger for Retroid’s bullshit, and not the guy responsible for any of this.

[brittle tiger]

Yup, that’s the last comment I got from him before he had to leave.

[dreamy hull]

So if got this right the guy who doxxed him actually briefly posted his information on the discord?

[junior fox]

I fell asleep for an hour or so

[pseudo dove]

It’s not out yet

[junior fox]

Any news?

[obsidian roost]

tbh i havent seen anyone trying in rebiews of it so no idea

[brittle tiger]

Well it’s not official yet, but it’s likely canceled and/or Retroid is going down in flames.

[obsidian roost]

reddit shot the messenger

[delicate ermine]

now not getting dramatic here, but with how things are going pre-orders may take a big enough hit for them to not be able to even produce it yes

[pseudo dove]

Damn I want this 😭

[delicate ermine]

go and buy a Pocket DMG for 400bucks

[pseudo dove]

Don’t think I can do that

[brittle tiger]

Well then tough luck, because the only company that was actively pushing Anbernic and others to do better by being competition just shot themselves, so we’re unlikely to see those guys ever actually innovating again for the midrange market.

[turbid haven]

Bit too soon to doomsday that just yet

[tepid harbor]

Yea

[pseudo dove]

Haha yeah

[tepid harbor]

Like I’ve said before, retroids response matters a lot

But I think they’ll have enough to continue the flip 2/classic at least

And get enough pre orders for those, maybe less due to controversy but retroids are still at the end of the day a pretty high quality mid range devices

QC issues and bad communication regardless

[void mortar]

I'll wait for their response myself before deciding if I still want to buy a product from them.
I just feel really deflated with everything that happened given how excited I was to get my first Retroid after more than a year of watching several videos about them and hearing good things about them and their products

[tepid harbor]

Which one u bought?

[ebon forum]

raah magicx

[tepid harbor]

I still don’t trust magicx

[ebon forum]

please investors shift

[tepid harbor]

But it’s nice to see a redemption arc

[void mortar]

Haven't bought one yet, but I was going to buy the Flip 2 more than likely

[ebon forum]

reasonable

[tepid harbor]

Rp5 didn’t really have issues but the mini is a real problem child

Retroid always is 50/50 on whether or not a release would come with a shit ton of problems or not

5, 2S, and 4 pro were drama free. 4 pro had some issues at launch but they communicated and fixed them pretty timely

[turbid haven]

They have had some doozys in batch 1s

[tepid harbor]

Flip 1 and RP Mini and RP3… yea…

Flip 2 is supposed to fix the main issues with the flip as it became a cult classic but needed some updates to truly make it perfect

Like the hinge and how far it’ll open up

[pseudo dove]

Might buy an rp mini if they reduce the price due to this though

[tepid harbor]

Alongside just better chipset to accommodate the high price

[tepid harbor]

Yea for 150$-160$ it’s worth for sure

Rp mini is still a good device, pocketable 2x res ps2

Just don’t use shaders

[pseudo dove]

The only thing I don’t like are the noisy buttons

[void mortar]

Part of me wants to easily be able to say I won't buy from them if their response sucks, but the problem is that there aren't really many other emulation handhelds at the mid-range that can play Gamecube and PS2 while being a lot smaller than a Steam Deck, so I'm kind at a big loss for alternative options besides Retroid that aren't AYN (though I don't think I've heard much bad about AYN)

[junior fox]

I got one when it came out. I don’t use shaders, ‘cause they never look right. but hilariously, I tried some on RPM and was like, “yeah, still looks like butt”

[delicate ermine]

AYN is basically the same company anyway

[floral current]

i mean not really

[delicate ermine]

well, they both belong to the same parent company, so kinda at least

[void mortar]

They share the same parent company or something like that, I can't really remember

Yeah, what prog4m3r said

[delicate ermine]

also their parts (sticks, d-pad, etc.) are often the same at this point

[junior fox]

Moorechip is a manufacturer. They build products for a lot of companies

[void mortar]

That's true

[tepid harbor]

Like worst case scenario you’re still going to get a good device, but it might have QC issues

For stuff like hinge breaks

There’s going to be more generous return policy on stuff like that

[floral current]

that's like saying every company in america is the same company cuz it's majority owned by black rock

[tepid harbor]

And it’s going to have the same guts as the rp5 which was pretty much unproblematic

So flip 2 I’m not worried, classic could have more points of failure

[delicate ermine]

well, wouldn't be wrong, technically

[tepid harbor]

Cuz it’s their first vertical and it’s got more unique parts

[floral current]

you get my point lol

[delicate ermine]

Microsoft, Google, Facebook, all pulled from the same strings

basically any fortune 500 company anyway

[sinful forge]

not their first vertical

[junior fox]

The owners have a master plan to inject Windows XP Service Pack 4 into unsuspecting suckers’ arms under the guise of it being a “””vaccine”””

[tepid harbor]

Shhh we don’t talk about rp1

[summer marsh]

Can we go back to the sd865 hope posts please 😌

[void mortar]

I'll wait and see like I said.
The Flip 2 looks like it'd be perfect for me to use for a good number of years as someone that doesn't upgrade super often, and wants GCN and PS2 in a portable form factor,
For me, it's not even necessarily just bc the company suddenly became shady (I love my Mac Mini, I don't really like Apple as a company, and ofc liking Nintendo games despite... Nintendo themselves), but moreso big concerns about trusting their products in the QC department and what else they might decide to brush the under the rug.
Idk, my thoughts on this are a big mess rn, but I just want to be confident I can buy a handheld from Retroid and know that whatever happens, I can at least get good service on it

[nocturne gazelle]

Does the XP service pack vacc make me windows XP startup noises every morning if so, based

[ashen vault]

[sinful forge]

kinda wish i had bought a RP1 just to have one

[void mortar]

Real.
Even the RPMini SD865 would be nice

[junior fox]

It has an sd865 🤣

[void mortar]

I think it was about the Classic lol

Already know Flip 2 has it

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-valentine-day-gif-24830661

Saturn edition sd865 hype train!!

[junior fox]

All aboard, mfs

[tepid harbor]

Yea I’d wait for reviews

[summer marsh]

Ya’ll retroid haters can laugh at me if I preorder it and there is issues

[tepid harbor]

I only pre order retroid stuff cuz the shipping takes forever and I can just tear down the device and replace it with new stuff if there’s a QC issue I don’t like such as a squeaky joystick

And because I have disposable income so it’s not like I get crazy buyers remorse I can just sell the previous model lol

[junior fox]

I had a 2, it was butt. I avoided the 2+ because the 2 was so bad, but it was awesome actually

I’ve preordered every model since, and I didn’t feel like any of the issues were that bad, really

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/how-iplaysmash-gif-5006024

[junior fox]

I thought the 3 was awesome 🤷‍♂️

[summer marsh]

Me if the Saturn edition has sd865 😎

[twin comet]

2+ and 3+ owner here... Loved both too

[junior fox]

My XP SP4 comment was an attempt at mimicking the “all big companies are owned by the same group of people and bill gates wants to control the weather” crowd, in case that needed clarification

[summer marsh]

Wasn’t that the plot of Metal Gear Solid 4?

[junior fox]

I couldn’t make it through, so I’m not sure

Kojima was so high off of sniffing his own farts that none of his stuff ever really made much sense

[obsidian roost]

and yet 5 is sitting on a shelg and mini is my daily carry 🙂

[wintry pecan]

ill distract everyone
backwards n64 edit!

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-calm-up-stargate-tealc-sg1-gif-27063135

[junior fox]

You’ve gone too far

[wintry pecan]

not as far as whoever made this rp5 grip

[distant ledge]

is this a neck rest?

[stone ice]

how about this?

[delicate ermine]

well, at least it has a touch screen I guess

[wintry pecan]

put an A button and a fast forward and you got the perfect pokemon player

[ashen vault]

I don’t why but this grip makes me think of this

I think it’s the legs

[brittle tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[brittle tiger]

Spoiler that shit man! The outright wrongness of it nearly blinded me.

[junior fox]

Reminds me of janky 3rd party PSX controllers

[ashen vault]

I just noticed..

Something is off in that picture

[brittle tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-nic-cage-nicolas-cage-make-face-gif-15498977

[brittle tiger]

I wanted to use the Jim Carrey “Gee, ya think?”, but I couldn’t find it so this was the funniest alternative I could find.

[obsidian roost]

thats certainly a choice

[tepid harbor]

Yea for awhile I picked mini over rp5

I only started going back to 5 because I was starting to play more ds and could of used a bigger screen as I wasn’t traveling as much

Rp flip 2 is best of both worlds while also being even smaller than the mini

[obsidian roost]

smaller?

🤔

[summer marsh]

Is it really smaller? I haven’t paid that close attention to it tbh, but that sounds nice if true

[sweet forge]

The flip isn't smaller than the mini. It's going to have the same screen as the 5 lol

[tepid harbor]

We know the dimensions

It’s 140x89x24

Mini is like 160x78x25 or something like that

Flip 2 is taller but not as tall as new 3ds xl

[wet fossil]

How expensive do you think this device will be?

[tepid harbor]

But it’s less wide

Clamshells are actually crazy small but are often quite thick

[wet fossil]

I hope that its cheaper than the rp4

[tepid harbor]

But flip 2 is supposed to be less thick than the original, probably due to better analogue placement and better engineering

And because sticks are on top rather than inward allowing more space

It’s slightly bigger than the og flip but thinner according to Chris who had a 3d printed model

It can def house a 5.5 inch screen at that size esp with small bezels

[wet fossil]

I can dream!

[rose dove]

It'd be cool if it's cheaper than the rp5, which I could see for the 1100 but oled and hinge cheaper than the rp4 is a big dream

[wet fossil]

There is no hinge though?

This is the chat for the rp classic right?

[rose dove]

And this is why you should always believe in your dreams

It is lol

I hope this is cheaper than the rp4 too, I was talking about the flip 2

[wet fossil]

We don't need to emulate switch on this do we?

Or even wii

Hopefully we have 2 models to choose from like the rp4 and rp4p

[brittle tiger]

Update from Stubbs on the situation with Chris, for anyone unaware.

[echo torrent]

I never saw it this way but now I see you’re probably right… lol. Wonder what that says about me? What a fun ink blot experiment heh

[unkempt frost]

That's the issue of being the face of a company. People will hurl crap your way even for things that are completely out of your control.

[high hemlock]

I totally can't and won't support doxxing, but maybe getting someone else to do the job would be better. Don't think Chris did a good job as the social media rep tbh. He's too vocal towards the design choices of the products but when there are actual problems he's always like "I don't know, that's what boss told me so stop bothering me".

[steady mortar]

Yep but he was the rep for western market they made him to take the fall over plus without chris Retroid wouldn't get recognition as much

Chris was doing everything to make people happy

It's retroid you should blame for that

[obsidian roost]

i dont know blaming chtis aftrr him being doxxed makes me icky

[eager rain]

Two separate events but also I disagree: Chris did a great job given the terrible shit shoveled onto him from retroid

[brittle tiger]

Nah, he created a terrible community all by himself, definitely no complexities about the situation, and he definitely wasn’t just doing the best job he could with a shitty hand dealt by both Retroid and the community itself.

/s

[wintry pecan]

you need to bold that /S

[brittle tiger]

I’ll do you one better and also make it bigger font.

[high hemlock]

Well my dislike for Chris didn't stem from this incident so I'll just stop at that. 😕

[sweet forge]

It better have at least a d1100 or else it's a waste

[delicate ermine]

SD865 or bust

[wintry pecan]

i will bust if we get that chip for under $150

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148

[delicate ermine]

$199 now, gotta recoup the cost of the Mini disaster

[summer marsh]

Man people really blowing this out of proportion lol

[delicate ermine]

$209 now, because you are too optimistic

[bright plinth]

Counter
$109 as mini disaster community goodwill

[summer marsh]

I’d pay it

[high hemlock]

"To help alleviate the drop in profit, we kindly ask that real Retroid supporters pay $50 more. Please understand."

[delicate ermine]

you can tip on shopify now, buy some buttons and leave a $100 tip, thx

[summer marsh]

yeah the MagicX store has a place for a tip when you check out lol

[delicate ermine]

all Shopify stores do now

it's Shopify not them

[little verge]

T618 would be my hope but I doubt it, good battery life and enough power for shaders plus Saturn

[delicate ermine]

total lunacy

[little verge]

And cheaper

[summer marsh]

oh there HAS to be on option to disable it?

[delicate ermine]

dunno, have no shopify to sell Chinese e-waste myself

[summer marsh]

T618 does not play saturn well at all

[nocturne gazelle]

shopify isnt always the easiest to deal with and thats when you speak fluent english

I wouldnt be suprised if they were even aware shopify pushed the change

[little verge]

Probably doesn't run beetle well but the standalone maybe. Can't say myself, never had one

[summer marsh]

yaba sanshiro is impressive for low end hardware but it's the equivalent to running rice n64 plugin on low end hardware...not a great experience

[little verge]

Glitchy, still seems like a good combo for the price. Tough sell for a device with no stick to be 150 plus

[summer marsh]

not to saturn fans

[little verge]

What Saturn fans need is a new arc, this to me seems more like one of the better ways to play gbc/snes

[summer marsh]

yeah the 4 button one. but there's a lot of great low end verticals, even besides saturn I want a beefy soc.

just looking for a reasonably priced ayaneo dmg. that is an incredible device if you totally ignore the price lol

the low end vertical market is saturated, the high end is crazy. give us something in the middle

[little verge]

Yeah I feel you, looking for a replacement for a 353v and something premium but not too expensive would be awesome

Screen should be amazing

[summer marsh]

I think people expecting it to be $100 if it has a lower end soc are crazy. Though I guess retroid historically has had competetive price with stuff like rp2s, I just don't see them being able to put the dmg screen in this for that cheap

someone was predicting two soc options, one at like $129 and one at $169 I could see something like that

at the same time that screen has got to be costing more than the mini screen? I have no idea lol....hopefully we find out next week

[wintry pecan]

theres 7 shell colors, we wont get 2 SOCs

[distant widget]

screen is around 25-36 usd, this is for international audience/market, so might be even cheaper within China if you buy in bulk
https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?spm=a2700.product_home_newuser.home_new_user_first_screen_fy23_pc_search_bar.keydown__Enter&tab=all&SearchText=3.92+oled

[summer marsh]

not bad!

[novel crane]

Legit

My biggest question is

[summer marsh]

well maybe they could price a lower end soc at $99? that would be a crazy era to enter into

[novel crane]

Im i gonna go for the 6 button

Or am i gonna go for nostalgia

With the Berry or Teal

[summer marsh]

I'm 100% going 6 button but don't do it if you aren't primarily playing saturn and/or fighting games

[little verge]

Teal was my gbc and first ever handheld

[novel crane]

THAT'S WHY IM DEBATING IT XDD

[summer marsh]

6 button pad just feels off on snes/ps1

[novel crane]

On one hand

GBC/GBA/SNES

On the other hand

Saturn/Arcade/Fighting Games

[summer marsh]

yep it's tough. I've wanted a proper handheld saturn for years and this comes along. but I know the button layout isn't ideal for snes but snes will look so good at 8:7 on this screen 🫠

[novel crane]

Like

On my biggest hand

SMW rom hacks and GBC rom hacks are gonna rock

On this

But on the other hand.... MAN KOF AND SF WILL ROCK

[summer marsh]

I know it probably wouldn't be good in practice but it would be cool to have a modular system where you could swap out controls

that guy that keeps making the n64 layouts in here would have a heyday

[harsh coral]

an n64 layout is a new frontier

as far as i know

im hoping one day we'd get such a thing.

[nocturne gazelle]

theres been a bunch they just kinda sucked

[harsh coral]

ah well im not surprised to hear the reception didn't go well

[sweet forge]

I'd pay 199 for a 865. $169 for d1100

[summer marsh]

well, someone here is going to be wearing the clown makeup next week when we find out the specs and I hope it isn't the sd865 gang 😆

[ebon forum]

I still love Sean though

[ebon forum]

Super sp

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/sageykins-neolliam-gif-26212324

[unkempt frost]

The very first Retroid Pocket was an N64 layout (kinda)

[unkempt frost]

An Arc that can play Beetle Saturn at 100% would be amazing, but in the meantime I'll take what I can get.

[harsh coral]

i can kinda see it i guess. I thought it was more of a sega inspired layout.

[modest mantle]

😬

I dunno about that

Throw some sticks on it and then I'd consider paying RP5 prices. Heh

[unkempt frost]

Yeah, and IIRC it wasn't great for N64. But it did have six face buttons and both a D-pad and joystick.

[blissful reef]

Curious if the six button has a chance at a separate soc / price to run saturn without raising the other shells too

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-wiggle-gif-9517713

Haha well the Satiator in my Saturn cost more than that so easy enough to justify.

That 6 button Saturn layout and OLED is like cat nip for me

[unkempt frost]

I'm fine with it. So long as it can play Saturn (SD865)

[blissful reef]

Im cool with all of them being overpowered without joysticks because theyd look sick docked (however, i dont think that will be the most common set up)

[modest mantle]

I'm pretty sure we all have stronger stuff we can already dock

[blissful reef]

For sure, I think 100% a bad decision overall. However, I think this looks sick to dock

I just want the six button to run saturn, even if that means the other shells are overpowered for the form factor

[summer marsh]

Funny seeing the aversion to having more headroom for higher quality emulation experiences here.

I wonder if a lot of people are going to get bored of this hobby soon and maybe just actually settle on some devices now that we can basically emulate all of the retro systems

The only thing left to do for 4:3 systems now is increase emulation quality, OLED etc

We kind of are approaching ‘endgame’ even if I hate that term

Just give us the sd865 and let’s be done with it

[blissful reef]

Definitely feels like a plateau, but you can also see new horizons with linux builds and potential new android emulators

[glacial bison]

I'd guess that there will always be a huge demand for cheap portable game devices in economically under-developed nations. Some people might tune out of purchasing so much but there will always be kids into this stuff who can't afford steam decks etc

[summer marsh]

Yeah there will always be room for low end devices, and you will get more for your money as time goes on.

I think the Miyoo Mini Plus will still be popular and viable for a few years yet though

I don’t even think it’s under developed nations, a lot of people are rightfully happy with something like a Miyoo and that’s great. They also make incredible gifts

[glacial bison]

I'm just saying that like, india or china alone would be a big enough market for a company to be successful, not to mention the rest of the world

I would guess that as things go on and fast computers continue to become smaller and less expensive, the advances there alongside tech like folding phone screens etc will continue to keep tech enthusiasts buying

[blissful reef]

I cant wait to have xbox, ps3, xbox 360 in more convenient devices than we currently have. Its exciting and frustrating to be so early in seeing it unfold

[glacial bison]

The 'modern' age is like a perfect storm of people with disposable income, men who were raised on vidya and refuse to grow up, bragging about purchases on social media, buying high end stuff they don't need to flex on other techies, etc

[glacial bison]

Every generational advance feels like that lol yeah

[river grove]

yeah i think 360/ps3 are gonna be slower to advance tho cuz once u hit that generation, more and more of the games have pc ports

there are definitely some good console exclusives but a lot of the big games you can already very easily play on a steam deck or other windows handheld

[modest mantle]

Im just more interested in innovative designs over higher socs at this point

Sucks the only stick vertical that can play higher end stuff costs like 3x as much as this will. Heh

Feel like there was some middle ground there for the taking

Who knows. Maybe on V2

Throw in a chip that can go up to PS2 and handicap it at Saturn

[glacial bison]

Right. I think that the distantish future is that portable devices for more modern pc games reduce in price until the high end retro gaming market gets absorbed into those, and then eventually the mid tier as well

[distant widget]

even for modern games available on both PC, ps4/5 and switch, having the ability to emulate some of them are great.
There are games that only have controller support on consoles and don't have them added back to the original PC releases. So the consoles ' version is definitely the preferred when playing on controller/handhelds

[glacial bison]

What interests me is how long it takes for a steam deck's functionality to fit into an Odin 2 form, then rp5 form, etc

[modest mantle]

That's a tough question

The expectation is for phone socs to catch up rather than PC socs to be minified

Might still be a while

A larger company would need some incentive to go smaller for the latter to happen. And I just don't think they'd see the value there

[late rock]

I mean pc handhelds like the gpd win mini and ayaneo pocket air fill that role, though the main limitation is the battery life

[modest mantle]

Maybe if game developers were actually making games that targeted smaller devices, but they don't. There's no real specific mobile game development outside weak micro transactions games we have now, and the occasional PC port

It's not like back when we had games specifically made for game boys and Sony portables

[late rock]

That's unfortunately true, there's no unified development target like there was with Sony or Nintendo handhelds

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Exactly

[glacial bison]

Sure, my point is that trend will continue with gradually lower prices until retro gaming becomes a sort of bonus, like it is for laptop/pc/tablet owners now

[late rock]

The steam deck kind of gets close but not to the same level imo

[modest mantle]

Which are still some of the best games to play on smaller devices

[summer marsh]

sd865 is the middle ground 😉

[modest mantle]

No. As in middle ground between like anbernic 406v and pocket dmg

[late rock]

I think power wise we're getting there, though compatibility in the pc gaming on arm space is sorely lacking

[modest mantle]

S865 is the middle ground soc true, but then you handicap it with no stick, and it's basically equivalent to the 406

[summer marsh]

after the disappointment that was the 40xxv I don't care for verticals with sticks

even if it was a hall effect stick I thought I'd enjoy a single stick in a vertical...but nope lol

[modest mantle]

But Anbernic isn't retroid

[late rock]

Wasn't the issue with that the cardinal mapping?

[modest mantle]

There were multiple issues no?

[summer marsh]

yeah, a single stick on a vertical is just...eh

[late rock]

I mean I'd prefer two personally

[eager rain]

there is a reason we've never seen a vertical with analog input first party

[modest mantle]

Two would have been the right answer

Even DMG owners feel this way

[summer marsh]

at that point we just need to hope they replace the mini with the dmg screen

[modest mantle]

But then it's not a vertical. And there's more competition

[late rock]

Idk, I kind of just want a powerful vertical

[summer marsh]

I love verticals, I have huge nostaliga for them since my first console was og gameboy. but they just don't really work well with sticks

[late rock]

Its just a preference thing

[modest mantle]

See. There's the market. With a hole in it. That sticked s865 vert would have actually filled

[summer marsh]

even if it had two are you gonna enjoy playing anything action oriented? probably not really

[modest mantle]

Hell give it 6 buttons too and fill 2 holes

[summer marsh]

that's the classic attempting to please everyone and pleasing noone in the process

[late rock]

Games don't need to be fast paced to need two analogs though

[modest mantle]

I mean that's just an assumption on your part. Id play Manu fps on a 4 inc OLED. And now I can easily fit it in a pocket

[late rock]

And I'd rather figure that out instead of not having the option

[eager rain]

the 406v is the one exception and they did it by just saying they did not care about screen to body ratio or pocketability even a little bit

and it wound up quite ugly (in a way I find cute)

[summer marsh]

yeah for sure, they made it work but its ugly af

[modest mantle]

It's a solid device. And actually filled a hole in the market

Even if ugly

Retroid could have one upped it

Instead of was a side grade?

[summer marsh]

you're tripping if you don't think the saturn classic is filling a hole in the market. sorry if it wasn't directed to you but come on

[late rock]

Kind of just wished they made an official grip for the 406v instead of making it really big

[modest mantle]

I can count Saturn fanatics on one hand. Lol

[summer marsh]

even an oled vertical that doesn't cost $400+ in general is filling a hole in the market

[eager rain]

nah, fat gameboy funny

[modest mantle]

And why limit it to Saturn. Why not make it something that Saturn, N64 and PS2 enjoyers wouldn't enjoy?

[late rock]

No pocketability no buy

[summer marsh]

lol

[eager rain]

that's fair, but we have dozens of pocketable verticals to choose from

including soon one from retroid

[modest mantle]

Like I don't understand this argument that no, it can only be Saturn, anything more would have ruined the Saturn experience

[late rock]

None that are powerful and have two analogs though

[eager rain]

I think it's ok to have one unapologetically 'ergo over pocketability' vertical

[late rock]

That's what I'm trying to say

[modest mantle]

Like it's such a weird take

[summer marsh]

the saturn one is one of 7, leave it alone lmao

[eager rain]

you're never gonna get a pocketable dual analog vertical where the analogs aren't painful to use. They were completely worthless on the 353vs.

[modest mantle]

Which is why I'd be shocked if the non Saturn versions came with a soc even close to the s865

[late rock]

I mean there was one with an Xbox layout but people called it ugly

[modest mantle]

Of course the Saturn might not even have that so

[eager rain]

that just makes one of the two analogs usable at the expense of ruining the dpad.

[summer marsh]

bruh is totally shook that the saturn one exists for some reason

[late rock]

Well I mean yeah

[eager rain]

if they use a garbage mediatek/unisoc chip for this on top of the mini scandal retroid is beyond lost

[late rock]

Powerful socs deserve top analog

[modest mantle]

Will laugh when it comes with a soc too weak to emulate Saturn well tho

I don't really care if it exists or is all you want. It's just dumb business on their part

Like it's foolish imo

[summer marsh]

sad little man...you were saying it's not filling any niche. now you're actively wishing it doesn't for that portionof the community.

[modest mantle]

See now your getting all offended

Name calling

I want you to get what you want. That doesn't mean that the release isn't kind of dumb

Both of those things can be true

[late rock]

Wouldn't the sega saturn benefit from having at least one stick though? I've never played it personally but aren't there racing games that would feel better using a stick

Idk it just feels so incredibly niche to me, not saying it doesn't deserve to exist but I am a little disappointed

[modest mantle]

Probably. But that doesn't matter I guess?

[distant widget]

there is a controller released for 3D stuff i remember

[summer marsh]

I think only Sega Rally benefits from the 3d pad and only if you're playing at a very high level, personally I don't want any sticks. I own 3 3d pads on saturn and don't use them.

only game that would actually benefit imo is nights into dreams

[late rock]

So it's basically like the circle pad pro got it

[summer marsh]

some saturn fans like it, just not my preference

[modest mantle]

Would have been cool if one of the other 6 color options had a stick. I don't even think the whole line should. Just a missed opportunity

[late rock]

Yeah I got what you mean, just wasn't sure how many games used that controller

It is a miss if they don't give the 4 button version a cheaper soc imo

[merry mango]

when will we have retro handhelds with attached light guns to play time crisis and virtua cop and lethal enforcers?

https://tenor.com/view/pointing-a-gun-on-the-phone-amy-lau-ali-wong-beef-angry-gif-16631551326813399594

[nocturne gazelle]

implying I cant do that now

[late rock]

As soon as we get a mario kart wiimote attachment

[eager rain]

they could do a playstation themed dual analog version, a 6 button + one stick n64 version

[modest mantle]

Would have been awesome. With colorways to match

Might have got me to buy more than one

Sucks the Saturn button one is Saturn button sized/layout. I mean I know it makes sense for Saturn. But I would have used those two extra buttons in a lot of places but yeah, I don't think I'd get used to trying to use the right as abxy

Would have skewed purchases heavier in that direction tho. Probably why it's only one sku

[eager rain]

I'm always torn between mapping BCYZ into BAYX or mapping ABCY as YBAX

when I play ps1 in particular on my m30 I like to use X and Z as l2 and r2

while on SNES the former I find more suitable usually

[late rock]

Wish there were more playstation themed handhelds

[modest mantle]

Honestly an OP layout. Good for everything except Saturn. Basically the opposite of good for Saturn but awkward for most else

[modest mantle]

Yeah. For sure

[eager rain]

assuming the chipset is the same for both (and has linux support) I'm very torn between classic 6 or kiwi green on this

[river grove]

if i get this at all (depending on chip) im going classic 6 for sure tbh that would be the niche it would fill in my collection

i was thinking long and hard about rg arc just for 6 button but id probably rather have this (even with the retroid dpad i dont love)

[merry mango]

ill get 6 button cause i dont have a 6 button handheld.

otherwise the dmg is very very enticing

[river grove]

yeah i dont really get why they werent all 6 button tbh? would love to get some of the other colourways in 6 button and i dont feel like the 6 button loses anything

unless its different chipsets

[merry mango]

yeah would the 6 button cost more then?

that too

[river grove]

i mean probably pretty negligibly more? cost of buttons isnt much. and they already are doing both shells

[merry mango]

damn i just want more details. this is endgame vert for me

i wont buy another vertical after this

[river grove]

id get a pink 6-button in a heartbeat lol

my sister had the pink gbc growing up and i didnt have my own so thats nostalgic to me

[merry mango]

she didnt share with you?

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-shelly-marsh-stan-marsh-south-park-s12e6-gif-21160895

[river grove]

she did (sometimes) but yeah lol. i got a gba later

that specific shade of pink is nostalgic and also stands out in a good way tbh its a good colour, been waiting for a retro handheld to come in that. on the opposite end of the spectrum i had the fucking tribal tat sp LMAO

the two genders

[summer marsh]

Consoles like snes and ps1 feel really awkward with a 6 button pad.

Not only are the buttons at a different angle but the top ones are smaller.

I’m getting the 6 button depending on the SoC but this aspect sucks. Trying to play snes with my 8bitdo m30 feels wrong

SNES and ps1 use a diamond layout that doesn’t work well with the 6 button

[river grove]

idk ive done it with my m30 and i dont mind it? idk tho

depends on the game i guess

and how much they use specific combinations of buttons

[summer marsh]

Super mario world feels wrong on my m30

[river grove]

fair but contra 3 feels great on it

[summer marsh]

Yeah it’s not a total deal breaker for those systems but it definitely makes sense to offer mostly 4 button models imo

[river grove]

to me its more about the dpad and how much teh game uses diagonals

yeah i guess

personally id love either all colours for both or maybe do a partial split so we at least have options for 6 button but i guess it makes sense why they'd prioritize 4

[summer marsh]

Yeah I assume most people are playing Nintendo and PlayStation on these

I’m happy they are offering the 6 button model though I get why these layouts are rare

[bright plinth]

Are we expecting full specs on Monday?

[odd finch]

This!!! I want a bigger brother of Anbernic RG40XXV with some features of AYANEO Pocket DMG! Hopefully someone does it. It's likely gonna be Anbernic or Retroid.
Not a fan of AYANEO's price points.
And the RG406V is too chonky 😂

[rare pumice]

I might be late with this one. What kind of chipset they might be putting in this, that needs airflow? you would think it'll be close to the 2s chipset, since it doesn't have sticks. that would limit consoles, to all low end/early ps1 games.

[solemn sentinel]

RP2S was perfectly fine anything under GameCube

Including Dreamcast and PSP

[novel crane]

If all the talk in the Retroid chat has confirmed anything to me: It's probably gonna be the 865 or the D1100

[rare pumice]

Most games on all three of those require a stick, the classic has no sticks. thats why I said "would limit consoles, to all low end/early ps1 games." not that couldn't run them.

[rare pumice]

why such a high end chip for a limited device?

[novel crane]

Saturn emulation, later arcade games, and linux support. Anything lower and saturn is out the window ( especially for the 6 button variants)

[rare pumice]

its not just the 6 buttons, thats just the pic I grab off of retroid discord, I'm only seeing it running without **joycon, joy sticks, thumb sticks ( whatever you want to call them ) **. it would play GB GBA, DS, NES, SNES, GEN, MASTERS, early ps1 and lower **( without sticks ) **

[solemn sentinel]

Oh for some reason I thought you were talking about SoC capability

My bad

[rare pumice]

So why the high end chipset other than to boost price.

[solemn sentinel]

Linux ig

[novel crane]

Even outside of that, you also gotta think, why invest in a new cpu if you have plenty of the current/old stuff. That's wasteful spending on the business side.

Also, the only real hit you take without stucks is much later PS1, some Dreamcast since a good chunk of them can be played without stick, and N64. The likey option is that they probably do two variations, one weaker (d900 if they have any left) and the 865 for the 6 button and linux

[rare pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/ozzy-osbourne-shrug-idk-gif-9564944

[frank plinth]

A higher end CPU could be marketed well if this had the official dock compatibility.

Boom, docked and using a 8bitdo controller to play your dual stick games

[rare pumice]

I kinda seeing them taking a bath on this one like the mini.

[rare pumice]

so you are saying low end on the go, but if you want to play higher end. you'll have to go home and use a moga 5+ controller. 😄

[frank plinth]

I'm just saying if you open a dock it's capable of more.

And (ignoring the mini debacle for a second) they could be more forward with enhancing your experience playing older games using shaders/filters that a higher end chip could handle.

This angle is just funny now given the mini.

[obsidian roost]

Tbh "the enhancing" part is debatable... given some of the effects used are technically literally intentionally degrading the screen to emulate old stuff

[frank plinth]

Sure -- "tailoring" your experience.

A higher-end chip lets you answer "Besides the screen, what's the difference between playing SNES/PS1 and below on this vs. the TrimUI Brick?"

[obsidian roost]

What I wonder here , how big it's actually gonna be compare to the likes of 40xxV or 406v

[delicate ermine]

slightly larger than the 40xxv

40xxv is 9.2x13.9x2.2

Classic will be 9.15x14.?x2.4 IMO
at least based on the Pocket DMG dimensions