Retroid Pocket Classic

[stone ice]

405v had active cooling too

[void mortar]

The 405v uses a chip that can play a bit of GCN iirc, so that I half expected

[ashen vault]

Like how can you unironically pull this off

[void mortar]

Not the kind of grip I was thinking about anyways

[ashen vault]

Something like this?

[void mortar]

More like a much more improved version of this (sorry for this being posted here for like the umpteenth time LOL)

[stone ice]

bro has yaoi hands

[ashen vault]

Honestly just buy a vertical that’s taller in that case

[eternal roost]

A six face button handheld and it's GB styled lol

[ashen vault]

Like the pocket classic should’ve been a bit taller to beging with with the controllers being a bit closer to the screen

[surreal gust]

I really like Pokémon themed one

[solemn sentinel]

The GKD Mini came in two versions, one of them being a handheld that was taller and had sticks permanently attached

[simple grove]

[onyx jungle]

So it’s probably the 4+ chip then

[void mortar]

Bit of a lazy and dismissive response there.
You can say “just buy x” to just about anything.
The point of something like this would be giving the option of more ergo + sticks to someone who wants it as an addon so it doesn’t mess with the base device for people who like how it is

But yeah, this ain’t like something I was absolutely in need of wanting to be a thing or anything for the record. It was a “would be neat” type of thing that was talked about in here admittedly a lot yesterday.

[silent glade]

I want atomic purple but the green one looks sick

[stone ice]

that design can't even work with this handheld even if they improved on the gkd mini's thing, just look how much higher the dpads and buttons are from the bottom of it, you'd have sticks like 5 cm away from the joysticks and it would be totally unplayable

end the cope, it will not happen nor should it happen

[urban tiger]

Sigh I don’t even like verticals very much and I definitely don’t need one of these but dang I LOVE the pokemon yellow throwback

[coral lodge]

What a downgrade, Retroid!

[stone ice]

downgrade from what?

[coral lodge]

The style and back buttons look so cheap compared to their other devices!

Apart from RP1 😂

[stone ice]

was someone expecting console sized analog triggers on this?

[mossy crow]

Or full front glass 😂

[coral lodge]

This device is going to kill people with OCD 😂

[simple grove]

I still think there isn’t any vertical out there with analog triggers

[void mortar]

For what this is, I think the back buttons on this look fine to me?

[simple grove]

Trigger are ergo. Bit like the better buttons for miyoo devices

[novel crane]

.... man that Berry, Teal, and Classic 6 looks nice

[eternal roost]

The Classic 6 is the only one I'd be even remotely interested in tbh.

[stone ice]

if i get one it will be teal

[void mortar]

I like the transparent purple

[halcyon gyro]

none of them really speaks out to me in particular so its a dead tie between 4

[dreamy current]

the kiwi & berry colorways are growing on me

[mossy crow]

colors

[solemn sentinel]

NGL I'm incredibly tired of seeing transparent purple handhelds

[queen glade]

Then do not buy them

There's clearly a demand

[void mortar]

It’d be kind of a fail not to have it there when you’re referencing a lot of the classic GBC colors and even have the special edition Pikachu one in there

[meager jasper]

We had a kiwi gbc growing up the nostalgia is growing strong. Atomic purple looks awesome the that black PCB. Retro obviously is great. Getting at a 6 button along with a classic is basically required. Finally Pikachu edition cmon

[dreamy current]

i wish they did the solid purple variant

[simple grove]

Probs purple, retro and six button are three im deciding between

[void mortar]

Oooh, that looks really nice.
I think we had the atomic purple one in our household when I was a kid

Or at the least, some transparent model

[dreamy current]

retro looks cool, but i cant stand gray bezels

[simple grove]

Yeah thats whats putting me off

Will probs get the purple

Would have got black. But not an option 😞

[surreal gust]

I’m part of the demand lol. But I might actually go with the yellow

[stone ice]

it sucks because i had a normal yellow gbc and the pikachu one just looked like mine with shitty stickers on it

always hated that colorway

[void mortar]

Would you say you like this yellow better then for not having the stickers on it? Bc this basically looks like that Pikachu one but without the stickers

[stone ice]

no, i just want my yellow with grey buttons

[void mortar]

That’s fair.
Also, interesting question I got here for everyone now that we know how the whole thing looks like.
So, this could honestly have a variety of chips on it and it could be great provided the price. Won’t talk about what chip I think it has bc that’s been talked about a ton already, but if this somehow ends up getting d900 or even an 8D865, do you see yourself docking it for GCN and PS2 or no?

While I think even just being able to use higher end shaders would be sick, I’m really curious how many of you here would actually want to use it in that way. Don’t know how weird it’d be considered to dock a vertical

[craggy nova]

Plenty of people dock their verticals. It looks pretty nice if there’s a specific dock for it, too

[delicate ermine]

We haven't seen the connectors at this point and the D900 version might not even be dockable, given how it would require a dedicated HDMI port

[craggy nova]

But yeah, we have no idea if that’ll be possible yet

[delicate ermine]

SD865 is definitely dockable via USB-C, not like I would use it that way

[void mortar]

Ah right, didn’t the base RP4 have limited functionality with the dock?

[delicate ermine]

but I don't think they will put HDMI-out onto this like with the RP4/RP4pro just because the D900 doesn't supports USB-C video out

[delicate ermine]

yeah like charging only

[void mortar]

Oof…

[delicate ermine]

D1100 and SD865 do video out via USB-C
D900 needs an actual HDMI port and only does 720p via that, which ultimately would make no sense to include if there are different SKUs

[simple grove]

Ooooo good point

So maybe D1100 and 865 then

[void mortar]

Rewatched the trailer to see if we have even seen the ports on it anywhere.
They don’t show the top or bottom

Don’t think any of the images out rn show the top or bottom either

[delicate ermine]

depends on how much stock they still have on the D900/D1100, we assumed the D900 because the RP4 base sold poorly

[simple grove]

If only one sku. D1100. As imagine that wont sell well compared to 865 flip

Tbh anything over ps1 is going to be tricky to play on this

So any chip will do 😂

[void mortar]

You’ll be able to play some Wii games that use sideway Wiimote controls, and some more 2d GCN and PS2 games, but that’s about it

[delicate ermine]

generally speaking I would expect D900/SD865 SKUs, D900 as the cheap-ish entry level model for $~119, while the SD865 offers video-out and Linux, probably for $159-179

[simple grove]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-head-gif-15509627

You may be onto something

[delicate ermine]

kinda also expect the Saturn model to only be SD865, because the Saturn fanboys would go nuts over it

[void mortar]

I wasn’t expect to discuss, let alone speculate on the Classic as much as I have given I’m likely not buying this, but Ig that’s just speculation being inherently fun to do x3

[delicate ermine]

don't go onto the Retroid discord and tell that to the mods

[void mortar]

Pfffft

[delicate ermine]

Atheonyirh is kinda pissy about speculation on the SoC front

[void mortar]

But seriously though, even if I myself likely won’t want or get it, I may show it to some of my family members.
Depending on pricing, this could legit make a great first handheld for a lot of people

Especially if you want something way better than the myriad of R36S clones

[delicate ermine]

Honestly speaking, if this would have a slider below the d-pad and a SD865, I would be happy

[void mortar]

I say this as someone who loves their R36S for what it is

[delicate ermine]

unfortunately my cheap Pocket DMG isn't going to happen

if they offer a bundle deal with the Flip 2 I may still grab one for the screen alone tho

[simple grove]

Im actually considering the berry for the wife 😅

Tetris machine

[delicate ermine]

it's a shame they don't have all six GBC colors, would entice me to buy six of these

[void mortar]

I’m gonna feel so bad if it somehow ends up not being OLED, but given the screen ratio and it seeming identical in apprarance to the Ayaneo DMG screen, the chances of this not being OLED are very low

[delicate ermine]

I doubt Retroid is going to make any IPS devices anymore

[mossy crow]

he'd have a shit fit if you started speculating on if the SoC will be good for switch emulation

[delicate ermine]

he will totally ban me

[void mortar]

Honestly, same. Can’t really see them doing that.
But yeah, OLED alone could make this one of the best verticals, even if the device itself ain’t perfect or doesn’t have everything some of us would want on it

[stone ice]

i'm starting to feel like this is gonna be way more popular than the flip 2

[void mortar]

I’d be lying if I said I would be surprised if it were.
I’ve seen the outpour of love people were having for this in the Retroid Discord (along the usual complaints you’d expect as well )

Legit think this thing will do really well

[delicate ermine]

unlikely, the people who talk about it are many, but the limitations ain't going to make it a device everyone will pick up IMO

[void mortar]

Think it’s gonna depend on price more than anything

[simple grove]

As someone who has a trimUI brick in his bag at all times. This excites me. Even if a little bigger

[delicate ermine]

well, I doubt it will be a $69 one, due to the screen alone

[stone ice]

this is kinda the brick's big brother, i think it has wide appeal

good deal compared to the analogue pocket too

[simple grove]

Im in the small boat of people who hated the analogue pocket.

I sold mine soon as i got it

Got an ayaneo dmg instead

[novel crane]

This is mainly why im getting it! I want a cheaper deal vs the Pocket, but a bit more powerful (and bigger) than the Brick

[stone ice]

i was never interested but i know it has broad appeal

[simple grove]

Buttons just felt awful. Kept giving me cramp too

Dmg is way nicer. This will be a nice baby brother to my dmg

[stone ice]

i still doubt i'll buy it with those inputs, but for people that like them it seems like a good product

[knotty thunder]

Where pope guy? I bet he excited for that 6 button one

[void mortar]

From the couple of people that have an Ayaneo DMG, they seem really happy with it.
I know TechDweeb really likes his from recollection

Still way too expensive for me to ever buy, but Ayaneo in general isn’t something I’d buy from

[delicate ermine]

all five of them

[void mortar]

Heh… yeah

[knotty thunder]

I actually like how it looks, especially the back. More interested now than I was at the reveal the other day

Hope it's not 300 dollars

[void mortar]

Definitely won’t be

[novel crane]

It's likely not 300

Probably closer to 120 to 180 range

100 at the lowest end

[void mortar]

300 dollars for a dpad only device wouldn’t be good business practice 🗿

[novel crane]

Retroid isn't Ayaneo

[knotty thunder]

Uggh that's like 150 to 200 or more CAD

[void mortar]

There’s a very good chance this will be OLED

So it will warrant that kind of $100+ pricing

[stone ice]

there is only one chance and that chance is yes

[novel crane]

I can't see Retroid going back to IPS

[distant ledge]

I want most of them... 😳

[novel crane]

Especially after the massive success of the RP5 and to a lesser extent, the RP Mini

[echo torrent]

Price is going to hinge more on the chip than the screen imo

RP5 ended up being only $20 more than the RP4Pro when it added OLED

They did lower the RP4Pro after, but just comparing launch prices

[modest mantle]

I love that dude hid the back and its just shoulders. I guess it has a little GB butt

[simple grove]

https://tenor.com/view/please-gif-25022736

[modest mantle]

Yeah. The ergos on these are pretty tame tho. Almost thought people were joking til I zoomed in

[modest mantle]

Like sure..every retroid device has some demand 😆

[simple grove]

Yeah. You will get different opinions. But im in the camp of liking these buttons. Not keen on flat ones

[modest mantle]

Only if it's unexpectedly cheap

[modest mantle]

Wish this was more of a cheaper DMG alternative

[modest mantle]

Oh. 100%. I wish they were more ergo

[stone ice]

i wish they were less ergo

brick style

[modest mantle]

There. Finally caught up. But yeah. At this point it really depends on soc vs pricing

Lol. Brick is like anti ergo

[sage silo]

They were going for less RAM at first too though to be fair. And after the change they probably couldn't reasonably increase the price too much

I'd love a Brick with a square screen lol

[modest mantle]

Too expensive and underpowered and it'll only appeal to those desperate to fill some niche that most won't care about. Cheap price and low soc and there might be an interested market purely for OLED. Slightly more expensive and high performance soc and your appealing to Saturn hunters but really only on one colorway. Expensive and high performance soc and DMG seems the smarter pick even if it's doubly expensive

[novel crane]

Tbh, for something like this, they could probably get away with 6gb of ram

[coral lodge]

It's going to be T610 - this doesn't deserve a better SoC imo!

[simple grove]

Refreshing etsy page

https://tenor.com/view/avett-tickets-gif-27558927

[echo torrent]

Completely forgot about the ram thing, but still would consider that sort of increase to be relatively low cost for them

Also am disappointed their new marketing images didn’t feature hints of a joystick model

My hopium supply is cached

[novel crane]

If they have any left to spare. Its probably gonna be the 865 or the more probable option: d900

[modest mantle]

Think that'd hopefully fall in the cheap soc cheap price. Which would interest me for the OLED. Id probably get one if that's the case

[modest mantle]

So slightly higher price and high sock. So appealing to Saturn heads on one colorway

[novel crane]

Tbh

[void mortar]

I've heard of saying something doesn't need a better chip, but deserve?

[modest mantle]

Hehe. Don't hurt its feelings!

[novel crane]

My bets are really between those or if they have some left from the RP3+ days: t618.

[modest mantle]

Yeah. If they put t618 on the 4 button version and keep it cheap I'd def pick one up

It'd actually compete with the non stick vertical alternatives purely because of the OLED

But if they end up being $100+ I'm just not sure how many people would pay 2x or 3x the price of other verticals just to play GBC/SNES on OLED

[stone ice]

with anbernic style controls i would 100% do it

currently, ehh, i might

[modest mantle]

Like the rg34xx dpad that struggles to do diagonals? Or what are we talking here?

[stone ice]

no, like a good dpad that they also make

and most of all good feeling face buttons

[void mortar]

Something more like the 35xx then

I believe that has a good dpad, but I don't own any Anbernic devices so I only know off of what people have said about certain Anbernic devices

[stone ice]

35xx plus has a great dpad, 405v has a great dpad

[modest mantle]

I mean it's retroid so they're gonna feel Retroid id assume

So if you like Retroid you'll like this

[stone ice]

some are misses like the 35xx and the 35xx h, i don't even dislike the 34xx dpad, i like false diagonals if they're not too crazy

[void mortar]

Ik Anbernic doesn't generally do super pricy devices as far as I've seen, but assuming this is OLED and it ends up not being much more than $100, I could see Anbernic doing their own OLED vertical down the road if this does well

What's the priciest device Anbernic's ever made?

[stone ice]

win600

[modest mantle]

like the flip 2 i imagine it'll be mostly be a clone of the RP5 hardware underneath

[stone ice]

yeah it's already confirmed

well, d1100 from the rp4 pro and 865 from the rp5

[modest mantle]

?

[stone ice]

flip 2 specs

[void mortar]

They revealed the chips for Flip 2 if you didn't know

[modest mantle]

Oh yeah

I don't think the socs will necessarily be identical. I meant the switches and membranes

[delicate ermine]

Chris said internally there is no space, so unlikely to happen

[rose dove]

It's okay, been so long since we got any news on the flip 2 I forgot too

[void mortar]

I'm still patiently waiting for them to reveal the prices for the Flip 2.
I honestly thought the Pocket Classic wouldn't be revealed until after we knew pre-order dates and prices for the Flip 2.
Find it a bit odd with the impression I was given they were giving info on one device at a time

[delicate ermine]

probably figured doing pre-orders for both at the same time will be better

if I order it alongside the Flip 2, only slightly higher shipping cost
on it's own it will be expensive, due to extra shipping and most likely vat

[modest mantle]

kinda wild that they can make a device that fits dmg screen and not have room for sticks but i guess they kept it thinner and maybe that's the issue?

[unkempt frost]

NGL, I'm disappointed that the shoulder buttons are the shell color. I was hoping they were the same color as the Start button. Not a deal-breaker, but still. Might have to see if I can nab the shoulder buttons off the Berry one.

[late rock]

Well looks like I'll just have to do this then

[modest mantle]

yeah, that's cool if they do it that way, and hopefully ship them together

[delicate ermine]

you could ask in suggestions on the retroid server, I think that would still be a doable change

I kinda want them to do a black Saturn version tbh, not a fan of grey bezels and all

[modest mantle]

honestly if they drop preorder the same day, and there isn't a cheap classic version, i'll probably skip

flip 2 has all the cool things, classic seems like some missed chances

[void mortar]

One of the mods thought the whole grip suggestion is on to something in the suggestions channel in that server, but I kind of agree with Kyoka that it's honestly cope.
Don't really think they'll make one after seeing what the whole device looks like

[delicate ermine]

that for sure, but ordering one alongside would still make a lot more sense for us Europeans

[gloomy lichen]

Metal version when?

[void mortar]

Mostly wondering what the ports on this will be and if it will even have HDMI. We still haven't seen the ports on this

[delicate ermine]

not gonna happen, the RP2SM was out there till the last units of the 2S were sold off

[void mortar]

Granted, 720p from the d900 if it gets that ain't ideal at all...

[delicate ermine]

I would clearly prefer a SD865 version, even if it's more expensive

Linux

[late rock]

The colors don't actually look as bad as I initially thought, I kind of like the red one

[modest mantle]

Then i'll really be doing @late rock 's solution XD

[sage silo]

If I get a new device, it's between this and the brick depending on price/resolution

[novel crane]

Linux or death!

[late rock]

Same, I'm hoping it's not that much more expensive than the brick

[summer marsh]

Sd865 please!! Aside from running beetle Saturn I think people are sleeping on how many incredible Dreamcast and ps2 games play well with a dpad.

So many fighting and arcade games…outrun 2006 anyone?

[late rock]

Hopefully around 100-130

[sage silo]

Based on the ventilation, I'm presuming the Classic will have a more powerful chip and active cooling, so I don't imagine it being cheaper than the RP2+

[modest mantle]

just depends on mold tho

[delicate ermine]

$119 for D900
$169 for SD865

is my guess

[modest mantle]

possible they'd take a T618 and still leave the vents on even if it doesn't need it

[jaunty gull]

Imagine they price it at $200 🗿

[late rock]

That'd be decent pricing imo

[sage silo]

I'm mostly interested in Pico-8 lmao so as long as that runs well I'd be happy. Trimui brick is cool too but I wish the screen was square is all.

[modest mantle]

yeah, i have 0 desire to pay any of these prices for something without sticks

[summer marsh]

I’ll buy the Saturn one if it has sd865 lol

[modest mantle]

i'd just pay the same and get something that can play more, heh

[delicate ermine]

fair enough

[sage silo]

They could do an interesting switch up and go with a whole new chipset

[late rock]

H700

[novel crane]

[modest mantle]

haha, i mean i mentioned it

[late rock]

It would be cheaper 🤷‍♂️

[modest mantle]

"plays" saturn and keeps it cheap

[summer marsh]

With active cooling that thing will rip

[sage silo]

H700 would be awesome for my wants but no way they're skipping out on android.

[novel crane]

I'd take those prices, especially since this would really be a complement to my Odin 2 and 3ds

[modest mantle]

yeah, at that price, Flip 2 baby

same power, more controls, still oled

still pocketable

[sage silo]

I unironicaly want a 35XX in the form factor as close to a gbc as possible. Particularly with a square screen

[novel crane]

Tbh, the flip 2 is just the flip, which wasn't even interesting to me in the first place

[modest mantle]

with s865 it's way more interesting to me

linux baby

[novel crane]

See

I would’ve care more about that

If the Odin 2 didn't get linux just recently

[sage silo]

I see the flip being a hard sale if you already have an rp5 but it could be a compelling first purchase or upgrade from the rp3 or rp4 devices

[summer marsh]

So given the daily release of info when do you think they show us the specs?

[modest mantle]

true, but more expensive, and xbox baby

plus odin 2 linux is still pretty buggy i've heard, not that they won't work it out

[sage silo]

I think they took a bit over a week for the RP5 devices.

[modest mantle]

plus odin 2 isn't pocketable

really it's like apples to oranges at that point

why get an odin 2 when i have a steam deck, both i'll mostly play on my couch

[stone ice]

i thought the dmg screen was taller than the 5,5 inch

[modest mantle]

but if i want something i can slip in my pocket flip 2 >>> classic from capability alone imo

[summer marsh]

You must have giant pockets lol

[modest mantle]

flip aint that big

[late rock]

Huh?

[modest mantle]

lol

[novel crane]

The Odin 2 is more of my travel bag buddy, plus If i wanted to play Xbox and PS2 on a pocketable device, I would’ve kept my Odin 2 Mini lmao

[modest mantle]

i mean i don't wear spandex, but it fits in a normal pair of loose fit jeans

[late rock]

I think the flip 2 will be around the same size if not a little smaller than most phones

Just thicker

[modest mantle]

i mean we know the size, it's the flip 1 basically, and i pocket that every day

[novel crane]

The classic is more of my GBC to Saturn + Arcade travel buddy if the chip is right

Cause some arcade games aren't playable on weaker chipsets

[modest mantle]

i mean i know you saturn boys are out there, and for you, i totally get it

dozens of pants were tented on that day

[novel crane]

Especially Atomiswave and Naomi

[dreamy hull]

Mine

[sage silo]

Yeah it was around 10 days or so.

[summer marsh]

Not just Saturn, imagine playing soul calibur, doa2, capcom vs snk 2 on a 6 button handheld 😍

[simple grove]

Guess specs tomorrow? 🤷🏻‍♂️ or some other reveal

[modest mantle]

I mean I might even pay if it's expensive for the Saturn version. Just cause having extra mappable buttons is so OP

[dreamy hull]

Give it like a week for specs

[modest mantle]

Touche

[modest mantle]

I dunno. We've been getting updates daily. Really think they're gonna drop classic and flip at same time

[novel crane]

Third Strike and Garou too!

[simple grove]

Im wondering pricing and dates next week

So specs tomorrow 🤷🏻‍♂️

[summer marsh]

6 buttons isn’t ideal if you mostly play ps1/snes and the like.

That’s one thing to take into account imo,

I have my 8bitdo m30 and don’t really like it for those systems, it doesn’t feel right when the buttons aren’t in the diamond layout

Still perfectly playable of course, but not ideal

[wild beacon]

reporting for duty

it's damned good

[delicate ermine]

shame they ain't selling any

[late rock]

Really? It's available to me on their website

[delicate ermine]

with the whole RP Classic thing, I would probably shell out 400 for the lower end SKU

nope, all SKUs are not available

ohh Arctic Black 8+128 is back in action

nope, buttons ain't responding

[summer marsh]

Why would the classic push you to make the big jump in price?

I’d love a dmg but damn it’s just too much for me

[delicate ermine]

only device I can put into the cart is the Pocket Micro Classic

[delicate ermine]

because the Classic ain't what I hoped for to be frank

[wild beacon]

I went to look out of curiosity and I'm seeing the same

black 8gb is available but buttons don't work lol

someone should tell Aya maybe

[delicate ermine]

nah, the two people who might buy one can be saved from spending their money

[modest mantle]

I mean the top row is a slightly different size. But I imagine you could just remap the right four to ABXY no?

[echo torrent]

Eh they could’ve found the room if they really wanted to. Clearly wasn’t a priority

[late rock]

Could've just made the bottom a little longer tbh

[modest mantle]

Smaller devices have sticks so they could have done something. But oh well.

They were clearly too brain broke with the Saturn booty shake to care about much else

[summer marsh]

Yeah it still feels awkward though. A good example for me anyways is super Mario world just feels off when using my m30.

The layout is on a different angle since it’s not diamond shaped, and holding the smaller upper buttons to run feels wrong.

Just something to consider if you’re not hyped on 6 button systems

[modest mantle]

Good to know

[stone ice]

yeah, on the rg arc using more than 2 buttons of a standard layout is weird

[modest mantle]

Unless 4 button so cheap I'll move along

[late rock]

Making a device almost purely for saturn is very niche, I mean I'm happy for those who wanted it but man

[modest mantle]

Brick is enough for me most likely

[summer marsh]

Well I think it’s not just Saturn fans, fighting and arcade fans will be into it (obviously there’s a lot of overlap lol)

[late rock]

Ig that's true yeah

[modest mantle]

Actually rocking my mm+ today

[late rock]

Wouldn't you want at least one joystick for arcade though

[summer marsh]

But yeah it’s pretty cool they did it tbh, I imagine they will sell a lot less than the 4 button ones

[summer marsh]

I dunno, I’m not one to use analog when I play shmup and whatnot but I’m also a filthy casual with those so what do I know

[modest mantle]

Joystick and 6 would have been pretty tight

[late rock]

Idk I'm not really big into those games either, I'm just going off arcade cabinets tbh

[novel crane]

Certain later games yeah, but most usually have a 8 way gate or didn't have analog input

[modest mantle]

Dpad usually works good enough for arcade

But I'm also a filthy casual

[late rock]

This thing is useless for ape escape, DOA

[hard zinc]

Case vents on back abd active cooling is a good sign. Fan quiet will matter. Nice OLED screen 4+inches

[junior fox]

Most of what I play is shmups

I can’t really play them on handhelds in general

But I use dpad if I do

[summer marsh]

It’s a good sign for those of us looking for a beefy chipset like me. Bad sign for those that want a cheap OLED vertical 😛

[distant widget]

Would feel like AyaNeo Classic if its priced too high though, and if money is not an issue you can always go for the ayaneo dmg, those people are their target market 🤣

[summer marsh]

Well no way it’s priced at even $200 like the mini.

[hard zinc]

Would do a $60 device too, with much less as well as a $100 device with more. Without sticks this would seem to ve Gen 5 iland below, which means other than to drive the screen cpu/gpu class can be reasonable.

[unkempt frost]

Quick photoshop

That was just pulling the shoulder buttons off of the Berry one, no other changes

[pseudo dove]

How many days was it with the flip 2 between the colourways pics and the specs being released?

[unkempt frost]

13, IIRC

Yep, 13

[lament cloud]

I wish theyd do solid yellow for the pokemon one

[unkempt frost]

Yeah I had two Gameboy Colors back in the day: an Atomic Purple one and a Dandelion (yellow) one. If I was going for GBC nostalgia (going for Saturn instead), I'd grab the Atomic Purple one. But if they had Dandelion, I had more attachment to that one.

[pseudo dove]

damn thought it was like 4 🤣

[unkempt frost]

Gimme the specs today. Open preorders tomorrow.

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-now-gif-6486247

[delicate ermine]

I think they really need to add 3 more colors to the mix

the two missing GBC ones and a black Saturn

[unkempt frost]

Or go crazy and do a Victor Saturn

Or even better, the Skeleton Saturn

[delicate ermine]

nah, just do black

generally kinda unhinged to not do a solid black option

[eager rain]

my childhood gbc was kiwi

I'm cooked.

[inner heron]

the pokemon one looks really good

[lament cloud]

Nah pass

We need SOLID yellow

What is this blue sonic bs

Take a lesson from analogue, JUST STEAL FOR ONCE

solid colors sold like hot cakes

[inner heron]

thats how the original one looked

[rough depot]

It’s interesting to me how divisive that colorway is

[lament cloud]

Nintendo wtf

I'm probably gonna go teal or berry

Unless yellow gets changed

[eager rain]

teal, berry, kiwi all look good

but I had a kiwi gbc...

the question is if I ALSO get a 6 button saturn one or stick with playing saturn on my ipad with an 8bitdo m30

[lament cloud]

Curious how GBA will look on it

[stone ice]

the normal not pikachu yellow is so much better

honestly i never like the special editions of handhelds, normal colors always look best

[lament cloud]

Do we know if these will be matte

[inland frost]

Just stick a MagSafe ring behind it and use a MagSafe controller clip with a controller and BAM

also this thing will be really good for DS, that aspect ratio and controls

still kinda wish it had at least one stick but I like the vibe nonetheless

[lament cloud]

Dog idea

Every post with a controller under an H700 device is a broken tooth vinnie pooh

[inland frost]

i uhh

i dont get the analogy

[lament cloud]

It's a meme

[junior fox]

Would love some Saturn variant inspired colorways

[inland frost]

I wonder if this’ll be 865, like we don’t need another mali right now!!

[junior fox]

I have a NOS skeleton controller 👀

[inland frost]

at least the flip 2 looks really promising

[lament cloud]

Flip 2 is delicious ye

[unkempt frost]

I have one that I never took out of the box

"THIS IS COOL" is so stupid but I love it

[inland frost]

this pic got me thinking, if this has active cooling (not sure what this is) then why wouldn’t be 865..?

[unkempt frost]

D1100 also needed active cooling

[junior fox]

What about D900?

[unkempt frost]

The RP4 base had a fan, but no idea on how important it was

[inland frost]

D1100 has a cpu that clocks better and more consistently 865, point being?

D900 is slightly better in some ways than the t820, which benefits from active cooling

[unkempt frost]

I'm just saying a lot of chips use active cooling

Even the G99 has active cooling in the ZPG A1 Unicorn

[inland frost]

well yeah, the t618 in the 405v and the og flip as well

so maybe it isnt a 865…

[unkempt frost]

I really hope it is

But it could be anything. If not an 865, probably a D900 or D1100

[inland frost]

I feel like anything under d900 is unacceptable

(and im half joking when i say that)

[unkempt frost]

No I agree

[inland frost]

also imagine this thing 8gb of ram? if it had a 865 it would out perform the mini!

that would be so weird

[unkempt frost]

That'd be crazy, so I doubt they would.

But who knows

All speculation at this point

[delicate ermine]

4gb RAM is all we get

[unkempt frost]

This is kind of a janky heatsink, honestly. How well would cubic blocks like that acutally do in cooling?

[inland frost]

maybe it’s just a prototype and the actual internal design hasn’t been revealed or even created yet?

[unkempt frost]

True, it is just a render

[scarlet meadow]

Anyone else wish it had at least one slider ?
I guess this is more like a TrimUi Brick competitor rather than a 2S replacement, still want a 2S successor if this isn't it

[nocturne gazelle]

Yeah probably just a render, it would increase surface area in contact with a cooling block but thats a real weird way to do it vs just fins.

[delicate ermine]

RP2S+ with SD865 and the PocketDMG screen would have been 🔥

[junior fox]

Gimme dat 865

https://tenor.com/view/itysl-gimme-that-gif-24118762

[scarlet meadow]

Definitely, not sure if it would eat into Mini sakes having a SD865 ( which I personally think it won't have ) but without having at least a single stick I'm thinking more D900 than SD865 which would still be good

[delicate ermine]

SD865 would make sense for the Classic 6, due to Beetle Core needing power

and we speculated on the connectors, if this doesn't has an HDMI-out port, only an SD865/D1100 SKU would support video out

let alone Linux on SD865 being a point

[hybrid prawn]

Do we know the screen size alr?

[nocturne gazelle]

If its the screen people think it is it's 3.92?"

[inland frost]

the d900 can still do ps2 and gamecube

[inland frost]

wait TRUE

[hybrid prawn]

So like the aya pocket DMG?

[nocturne gazelle]

thats seems to be the rumor, that exact screen in particular

[inland frost]

oops

nevermind thought you meant something else

[hybrid prawn]

Oh okay makes sense but I wish it was smaller tbh
Powerful but at like 3.5 max

[inland frost]

or maybe they'll just.. not to video out at all??

[rough depot]

I’ve seen enough 3.5 inch screens myself but I can respect it

Just waiting on SOC and price. It looks good to me, the GBC is comfortable in hand and this looks to be similar

[hybrid prawn]

I have a pocket dmg is the problem

[rough depot]

Ah yeah, that would make this far less appealing other than just for the fun colors

I was deciding between the Odin 2 mini and the DMG because I only had budget for one, and went for the Odin instead. I overall think I made the right choice for me, but I do look longingly at the DMG once in a while still

Which is why I’m even still looking at this. I just want that screen bro

[hybrid prawn]

Ill prolly sell mine honestly there is just no reason for a 8:7 screen device to have all that power

I gravitate towards my miyoo mini 9 times out of 10 honestly

[rough depot]

I have a miyoo as well that I take with me everywhere

Easier for shorter play sessions

But I do still like the Odin 2 mini a ton

This Retroid would be too big to use in the same way as the miyoo mini so really I should probably talk myself out of it

[hybrid prawn]

Yeah ppl give weird looks when u just pull out the 4 incher in public

Pun absolutely intended

[inland frost]

try a steam deck in a walmart bathroom

[inland frost]

CHRIST

[hybrid prawn]

Try a legion go on the bicycle

[inland frost]

alienware gaming laptop in an elevator with 5+ people

[hybrid prawn]

Light work try a ps5 plus 65inch tv in the waiting room of ur local dentist

[inland frost]

i admit defeat :(

[hybrid prawn]

'Twas a grand battle my friend

[jaunty gull]

I just bring out my rg nano or trim UI model s as my every day carry

[lament cloud]

Ive gotten curious folks ask me about the RG35XXSP at work

"Is that the gameboy thing i keep seeing on instagram?"

[pliant kite]

Do we really think we need the 865 for Saturn? Can the d900 not do Saturn well?

[delicate ermine]

SD865 will run basically everything with Beetle Core

so for accurate emulation a D900 would be limiting

[novel crane]

You would have to go to a d1100

Or the 865

[pliant kite]

Interesting, I don’t think I realized that with my 4P. Saturn works great so I assume I had power to spare there

[terse zephyr]

but in this shit color

and no joystick for n64

failure

[gusty socket]

If this really is the same screen as the DMG, will the D900 have enough power to play games at the really high resolution oled screen?

[potent surge]

good point

but then again will you even want to play those android games without an analog stick?

[plush onyx]

Imo the ratio of screen to body/controls is waaaaaay off. It's the reason that Anbernic 35xx and trumui may look "right" while miyoo mini plus may look "off" to some.

[potent surge]

yeah I agree. Button positioning looks random and arbitrary

[gusty socket]

I’m not talking about Android games. This would replace the Miyoo Mini/RG28XX for me, which both have 480p. I would play GB, GBA, and SNES on it, but it’s screen is like a stupidly big resolution, right? I can’t find it.

I prefer the MM+ screen/body ratio to Anbernic’s. Makes it more pocket friendly, for playing in quick bursts

[nocturne gazelle]

1280x1080iirc (assumed ofc no actual spec yet)

[potent surge]

We don't know yet. But if it is, I don't think emulation would be an issue. You're not adding much detail, only when you interpolate and that's nothing. It's rendering modern games at high res that's an issue

[gusty socket]

For modern games we would definitely need the SD865, but this will be a older retro console for me. A premium version of the cheap devices that I have too many of

[stone ice]

1240*

[gusty socket]

The Odin Lite was D900, right? I owned one of those, it was able to play Super Mario Sunshine and Paper Mario TTYD well

[stone ice]

yes

[gusty socket]

Not every GC game ran perfectly, so it would just be a bonus system. But then again it has no sticks, so the goal would be optimizing those older consoles

[potent surge]

then the screen res really shouldn't matter all that much for retro games. Only for the size of the image if you like pixel perfect output

[merry mango]

why am i buying three retroid handhelds this year....

[lament cloud]

You're investing in three retroid handhelds this year

[eager rain]

It matters if you want them to actually look correct, since you need many times the original res to properly emulate a crt or old lcd screen

[novel crane]

What was the PPI of the Ayaneo DMG

[potent surge]

it's not exactly "correct," but yeah, shaders have all sorts of different requirements. I usually don't get much into it because it's a whole can of worms.

[novel crane]

Ok

If this is the DMG screen

It has a PPI of 419

[novel crane]

Plus 1240×1080

[last terrace]

My compromise for SNES with M30 is ABCZ=YBAX. Would still prefer all the buttons to be the same size for versatility.

[novel crane]

If this does share the same screen: Interger scaled

Non-Interger scaled

[potent surge]

Huh. Goes to show that having an expensive high res screen doesn't necessarily mean big pixel perfect output

[novel crane]

That's why people are more interested in the chipset for shaders

And filters

[potent surge]

ok, fair

[novel crane]

Cause if this has a solid enough chipset to power through the stronger shaders available, not being interger scaled isn't an issue

[potent surge]

I'm not familiar with those shaders, but wouldn't it better for Dreamcast, for example, to use a screen with the native resolution? Like the RG40XX?

Or the RG34XX for GBA, etc

[astral holly]

What is the price speculated at?

[novel crane]

Usually, that is the case, but not always. Especially for the later systems. If you want to either upscale or maintain the feel a console has only a shader can give, especially CRT shaders, with take a noticeable amount of power to run.

[potent surge]

we don't know the specs yet, but not gonna be cheap.

[novel crane]

We don't know since we're waiting for the chipset

[potent surge]

got it. Makes sense

[astral holly]

You don’t think they are gonna put a 865 in here do you?

[novel crane]

It's possible

[potent surge]

it's a chip that requires active cooling, since it has vents, so could be

[novel crane]

The main choices that are being thrown around are the D900, D1100, sd865, or an older chip like a t618

The 865 would be the easiest choice since linux support and its a chip they have in supply

But they could still have plenty of D900/1100s to get rid of, so they may throw those in this system

[late rock]

An 865 in here would be tragic

[potent surge]

agreed

[novel crane]

hey, at least its not a G3x gen 2

That's tragic

[late rock]

It'd be the same story as the pocket dmg though, overpowered chip without necessary controls

I'm hoping for a d900 personally

[novel crane]

They might do a flip 2 and have 2 different chips

Who know

They might have a new chip

[late rock]

Possibly in the six button version yeah

I'm not sure if they would get a new chip just for this though

It's not really a flagship

[potent surge]

honestly it should have had budget pricing. I don't think giving it a overpowered chip makes sense for the form factor

people will be weighing whether to get a cheaper RG40XX V, or pay quite a lot more for this

Or a RGB20SX, or Miyoo mini plus, etc

[late rock]

The screen is carrying the entire handheld

[stone ice]

that's the point

[late rock]

Eh

[potent surge]

when most people dont know how to use shaders? kind of niche

[astral holly]

If it had a analog stick and 4:3 screen I would be sold

Like an updated retroid pocket

It had that awful dpad though

[late rock]

Just one analog and I'd be happy

[astral holly]

Something for sea Saturn

Sega*

[stone ice]

that's their problem, i do know how to use them

[late rock]

And n64

[potent surge]

your time to shine

[quaint steeple]

for example 3588s with a76 cores struggles with some games with Beetle core.

[river grove]

yeah i mean, i think if this does have a good enough chip for beetle it's gonna be way too niche and expensive for a handheld without an analog stick

[eager rain]

I would hope people too dumb to use retroarch aren’t buying dedicated retroarch machines but you never know I guess

[river grove]

a lot of people in this hobby dont really know their way around retroarch tbh. its such good knowledge to have but yeah

[eager rain]

I see people who have never emulated anything before looking at these sometimes and I’m like bro… use your pc first to see if you even like these games for more than 5 mins and are ok with configuring emulators and finding roms lol

[river grove]

yeah lol

[potent surge]

You can use RetroArch without knowing the ins and outs of shaders. And it's even less likely that they're willing to pay a lot more and get something with a fan on it just to have shaders

[river grove]

i mean for some people the shitty preloaded roms are enough

[wintry pecan]

you would be wrong, my source? #🆘│help-me

[wild beacon]

bold of you to assume they have a PC

[wintry pecan]

thats a growing trend too

one thats very weird to me

like i get not having a GAMING pc, but in general its good to have one

[wild beacon]

kids these days are growing up with smartphones and tablets but not so much PCs

[modest mantle]

Its why mobile gaming is even a thing

For many that's their gaming experience

That and a switch. Heh

[lament cloud]

What a sad reality

I can't imagine growing up without Miniclip, Kongregate, Newgrounds, or Nitrome

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Made sure mine started with a switch and not mobile stuff

[novel crane]

Started my siblings on the DS and 3ds

[lament cloud]

Good stuff

I'm gonna make sure each one can beat goodboy galaxy

Or at least 1 Zelda game

Problem/puzzle solving is so good

[wintry pecan]

so the "berry classic" is much more red than the render fyi

[high hemlock]

I mean, in 30 years adults then will be like "I can't believe kids these days don't even know what reddit is. Those were the good times.".

[late rock]

Comparing Miniclip to reddit is criminal

[wild beacon]

I remember when reddit was good

[modest mantle]

Eh. Reddit will be around forever. It's basically the modern day forum. Even forums are still around in some cases

[delicate ermine]

Forums are 99% dead

[modest mantle]

I mean unless owners do enough to kill it

[delicate ermine]

the dead internet theory is real

[modest mantle]

Depends on the hobby. Custom keyboards basically thrive on a forum

Knives too to some degree

[gusty socket]

Reddit has some serious issues with its mods tbh

But I still use it every day

[modest mantle]

For sure

[delicate ermine]

Reddit mods ain't as evil as NexLevel when we talk politics

[high hemlock]

Reddit mods will be happy to talk politics with you (whether you like it or not)

[modest mantle]

Stack overflow is kinda a forum. Heh

[delicate ermine]

that's kinda dead since ChatGPT got big too

[gusty socket]

Nah they just censor the right and give special privileges to the left

[modest mantle]

Except charGPT is still kind of ass when dealing with any specific library

[delicate ermine]

obviously, but the kids rather ask AI than fellow humans

[modest mantle]

Haha. True

Until you get a job and actually need to do stuff

AI ain't bad for basic scaffolding stuff tho

[late rock]

Chatgpt is really nice if you just use it like a more advanced Google

[modest mantle]

Even google searches AI is usually sufficient for basic stuff

[nocturne gazelle]

google works fine when you adblock the shit out of it

[late rock]

I usually trust chatgpt answers more than the Google ai

[nocturne gazelle]

not their ai

[modest mantle]

Til you need do some obscure Linux shell piping. Then there's always one post on stack overflow

Eh. Google AI is usually right for basic stuff. If you can ask it in a single question

I don't really want to talk to something. I just want an answer

[late rock]

For basic questions yeah, but If I have a super specific question chatgpt is pretty useful for that

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Googles is very generalized

[late rock]

I usually just use brave for that tbh

[modest mantle]

I mean I have the Gemini pro. I just rarely use it

[high hemlock]

From my experience working with chatgpt for coding, it's only useful for like...50% of the stuff. It usually points me in the right direction, but I am almost never able to use their code as is.

[modest mantle]

Yeah. And I have a fear we'll soon be hiring people who don't really know how the basic things work

[late rock]

Github copilot is surprisingly good

[modest mantle]

Copilot is probably the best

[late rock]

I had to disable it cause it was making it too easy

[modest mantle]

It actually does a good job of pulling in third party libraries

[ebon forum]

Isn't copilot just

Any other model?

[modest mantle]

So you train models. But then you can enhance them. And MS has good GitHub ties

They also train them on internal Microsoft data. So it's not just purely public

[halcyon palm]

It's just better integrated because it's all Microsoft basically.

Yeah

It's so good it's becoming a problem even, ahaha.

An increasing amount of devs are relying on copilot so much that they can't tell you what their code does anymore.

[modest mantle]

Yeah. See. Terrifying. Especially when you're required to do anything off network or imbedded

We've yet to implement an AI for code commenting tho. That's what I want most. Lol

[halcyon palm]

It's a great tool for assisting, but relying on it wholly is going to cause problems down the line.

[modest mantle]

Lol. Idiocracy

Unable to fix the things that break

Sorry. We took this way off topic. Haha

[halcyon palm]

Blame Retroid for trickling.

[modest mantle]

C'mon Retroid. Throw us a bone!

[halcyon palm]

We need an animal fallback for this channel now.

[modest mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/always-wanted-fainting-goat-nichipea-gif-5421356

[late rock]

Please no

[inland frost]

The screen is taller on its side, I guess using a controller clip will be good for DS games, sheesh this’ll end up being really niche if it could handle up to gamecube and ps2

[potent surge]

If you are playing DS like this you should be imprisoned

[inland frost]

meh ive seem worse

besides on its own it’ll actually work really well for ds

think about it, the screen is taller than most, and it has the perfect layout for ds as well

[potent surge]

Isn't it like 8:7?

That's hardly perfect for DS. If you want a tall screen the new Magicx device is made for exactly that

[inland frost]

oh, i meant the controls, the layout is the same as a ds, which is why its perfect

as for the screen, not perfect, but definitely not terrible

[inland frost]

besides, chances are the new rpclassic will be A LOT more powerful than the A133p

[potent surge]

Do you really need that power for DS games

The controllers, yeah, they should fit well, you're right

[inland frost]

yes

(ps2 in question)

[potent surge]

I'll save this one
It's going to be very useful

[late rock]

Why is it so wide

[inland frost]

i just thought it was funny

[ebon forum]

Copilot loves commenting in my experience

[lament cloud]

When can we get retro flash game devices

Gimme some of that Raft Wars or Commando 2

[late rock]

I think the closest we could get right now is winlator and flashpoint

[junior fox]

I need to know the chip

Now

https://tenor.com/view/miserable-crying-sad-tears-black-guy-gif-12326280655494835815

[summer marsh]

865 option or bust

[junior fox]

I’m sayin

[potent surge]

what are you hoping for?

[junior fox]

SD865 in the six button version would be 🤌🤌

I know it doesn’t make much sense without a stick, but I would scoop it no question

[potent surge]

price isn't an issue, I'm guessing?

with an 865, it's going to be a LOT higher than impulse buy territory

[junior fox]

Hmmm

I don’t want to pay $400 for a pocket DMG, but I wouldn’t think twice about spending $220 or so on this

Though I couldn’t imagine it being that much

[potent surge]

is there any vertical in that price point? surely anbernic has something

[junior fox]

Yeah, I think they have some boat lookin ones

[potent surge]

yeah i wouldnt blame you for wanting the retroid over those

although they do have joysticks

[late rock]

If only anbernic didn't take design inspiration from fisher price

[potent surge]

that wooden one kills me every time

[junior fox]

I had the RG351V. It was ok. Got the 40XXV, and it was nice, but didn’t have the powahhh

[potent surge]

what system do you want to run on it?

[junior fox]

Oled and can play up to PS2 is what I’m looking for

[potent surge]

moving the camera through sheer power of will?

maybe it has motion controls

[junior fox]

I purged most of my handhelds recently, and only had an RP3 and a CubeXX, so spent a fair amount of time on the RP3. The great thing about oled is battery life

Plenty of 2d content for ps2 that doesn’t require any sticks

[potent surge]

does it need the 865 to run PS2? For 2D games probably doesnt need all that power right

[summer marsh]

who said 2d games, lots of 3d fighting games like sc2 and 3, racing games like outrun 2006 or even gran turismo. the extra headroom would be nice. the ability to run beetle saturn with a 6 button layout would be godlike.

[junior fox]

Yeah, that’s the other thing

Running Saturn properly

Saturn is a tricky one, the more power the better

Nobody wants another Arc

[potent surge]

Saturn really needs that much power? Jesus

[summer marsh]

well retroid pocket mini was the first small handheld that could run beetle saturn full speed

[crystal walrus]

They haven’t said if it’s OLED yet right?

[summer marsh]

nope, people are just assuming due to their current lineup and the aspect ratio

[hard zinc]

Dat aspect ratio

[shrewd adder]

I wonder how this will compare to the rgb20sx as that’s already awesome

[hard zinc]

Why are we anchored on 1240*1080?

[potent surge]

I mean, they'll be in completely different price tiers

[potent surge]

We aren't

[summer marsh]

seems like most have accepted it's 95% going to be an oled, now we just have opposing camps from those that want it to be cheap and low powered and those that want an sd865 option lol

[potent surge]

It won't be low powered, it has air vents, which means active cooling

[nocturne gazelle]

think some photoshop goblin measured it out using the dpad as reference for size

its not a very common aspect ratio either
assuming all these renders are near actual

[summer marsh]

relatively speaking anyways

I got $200 ready here for my sd865 saturn option 😎

[potent surge]

Bro 💀 what will you use it for?

[summer marsh]

we've been over this lmao. saturn?

dreamcast, ps2, high quality shaders and accruate emulators

[visual coyote]

Between all the RK3326 devices with sticks up top, and now this without sticks, I feel like somebody is trolling us.

[potent surge]

Oh yeah, that was you. My bad

[summer marsh]

why else would anyone buy the saturn option? I guess if it had oled and was cheap it might be nice for cps2 emulation

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but this community tends to have really low standards for emulation quality 😅

[potent surge]

I barely understand why they'd get it now

[visual coyote]

Put the r36h designer in the same room as the retroid classic designer until they figure it out.

[junior fox]

Does anybody here know what cps2 is? 🤣

[potent surge]

Emulation quality on budget handhelds is fine

[summer marsh]

yeah for sure, and we have a shitload of amazing budget verticals lol

I love miyoo mini plus and brick is cool too

[junior fox]

We don’t need another XX device

[potent surge]

If you really stress with emulation quality and accuracy you'd better play on PC where you can scale indefinitely tbh

[visual coyote]

Wow yeah there's very little daylight betwen this and the brick besides the six buttons.

[potent surge]

It's those that sell. They're impulse buy material. I'd love more XX devices on wacky new form factors

[summer marsh]

well we already have the retroid mini and other high end handhelds...so I really don't get this point at all

[potent surge]

And we already have the Ayn Neo pocket so

Or whatever it's called

[lament cloud]

Yall laugh at anbernic but they comfy

406v is infinitely comfier than rp4p or rp5

[summer marsh]

so ugly tho 😅

[potent surge]

Looks like a boat

[junior fox]

Throwing a party on the 406v real quick

[modest mantle]

to be honest, i kinda like boats

rg cube

i prefer my mini+ to the brick i think

[summer marsh]

me too! I appreciate the brick but it lacks the charm/aura of the mini+, it really didn't do it for me

[potent surge]

Onion vibes are pristine

[modest mantle]

it def helps, but brick isn't bad at all, it just feels cold and sharp in comparison

and a little less junk in the trunk to grab onto

[potent surge]

Yeah that's the tragic part

[summer marsh]

also, MinUI has issues on the brick or at least it did before I sold mine. it doesn't sync properly with the screen or something and felt really off and not good at all.

I saw other people report it so it's just not me, I use MinUI on quite a few devices

[potent surge]

Can you get retroachievments on MinUI? I know they don't come by default

[summer marsh]

I don't think it supports wifi on any devices tbh

it's supposed to be simple 😇

[potent surge]

Oh, wow. Didn't know that. I love the idea of it but I kind of need at least Syncthing

Wanted to put it on my RGB20SX since ArkOS and Rocknix are so jank but it's not going to happen apparently

[summer marsh]

worth giving a shot honestly, I love filters/shaders and thought I would never use it but install it on every small device I have now.

makes picking up and actually playing so much nicer

[junior fox]

Do you have a favorite shader to use?

[potent surge]

You know what, I might try it out. Sounds nice

[summer marsh]

depends on what I'm using. on my ipad pro oled my absolute favourite is shader sub frames, crt beam emulation and your crt shader of choice.

it's next level. though can't really do that on retro handhelds (or any of mine anyways, needs 120hz+ screen for shader sub frames)

[lament cloud]

When i read this, I hear "yeah I don't actually play games I'm just a collector"

Which is fine

Like the brick, the miyoos, even the 35xx, yall wild for playing on these cramp inducing devices

[summer marsh]

why because I enjoy a handheld more than the other? don't be a dick

[potent surge]

They're handhelds. They're not necessarily designed for long sessions. Verticals are fine for short sessions, and are really practical for playing with only one hand.

It's like comparing playing on a switch lite to playing on a docked switch with a full controller on a huge TV. Different things.

[scenic lodge]

Not specifically replying to this situation but man. The “collectors” are WILD.

[late rock]

Why this thing should have had at least one stick imo

"Ergonomics" be damned

I want to actually be able to use this thing

[scenic lodge]

I might be the only person that wants sliders used more

[potent surge]

Exactly
But I tell you, Retroid doesn't really care

[late rock]

Also I'm ngl most games that only use dpad and face buttons aren't incredibly intense, and really don't require so much dexterity that it should be a massive concern imo

[potent surge]

I'd be fine with sliders
Specially on Mini handhelds

[potent surge]

Nothing better than one handed pokemon while you eat some snack watching TV

[late rock]

Casual rpgs really feel right at home on verticals

It just doesn't feel quite the same on a horizontal

[meager jasper]

All I care about is pricing at this point for both

[void mortar]

Sure enough, it's OLED

[lucid mist]

Larger than the mini. 😊

[ornate sail]

Exactly 1080p is nice because some shaders are optimized for 1080 line.

[delicate ermine]

we already knew that

[frank plinth]

Wonder how the mini would have done if this was the screen.

[delicate ermine]

depends on the content, 4:3 content like PS1 and N64 is 3.7" at 3.9x

[stone ice]

honestly rather have this than the 3,7" anyway, you get bigger gameboy/8:7 systems at least

and much higher res without the janky upscaling thing the mini has

[delicate ermine]

absolutely, there is a reason why I have no Mini

[void mortar]

So for 4:3 you get about the same size as the RPMini, and for things like GB and SNES, you get a bigger screen? 👀

[delicate ermine]

SNES is basically fullscreen

like tiny line of pixel left and right not used, but 3.9" out of 3.92"

Gameboy is 3.8"

3.7" if you intend to integer scale

[pseudo dove]

Plz don’t be $200

[delicate ermine]

the resolution ain't exactly lending itself to perfect integer scaling tbh

well, GBA works great at 3.4" at 5x at least

or 3.6" at 5.2x if you don't integer scale

[mossy crow]

the SotN 10:9 hack will look pretty wild on this

[delicate ermine]

honestly hope this is a SD865, rather would do full screen + a shit ton of shaders on this

[ebon forum]

Damned multi cpu

[ebon forum]

Now you care 😡

[dreamy current]

exact same aspect ratio as ayaneo pocket dmg?

[ashen vault]

D1100 / SD865

[mossy crow]

same screen

[ashen vault]

Like the flip 2

So if you really want Linux you’ll have to pay a premium

[novel crane]

1 for 1

Its the same screen

Also here's non-interger again

Super Nintendo basically fills up the whole screen

[stone ice]

with 1080p i don't know how important integer scaling is gonna be

[novel crane]

Not really important

Especially with a 419 ppi

[mossy crow]

sharp shimmerless will take care of things

[stone ice]

like with my 480p handhelds i had to go integer scaling to get crt shaders to look good, but my odin 2 or cubexx don't care much about integer scaling

[novel crane]

Yeah, once you get to a point where you're at high resolutions

Or have a high PPI

Interger scaleing doesn't matter

You can either just throw a bezel at it or put shaders on np

[scenic lodge]

I wonder how much more the Saturn layout will be.

[pseudo dove]

Is the rest of the specs likely to come out today? Forgot how they did flip2

[lament cloud]

They're all handhelds. There are some verticals that play well on long sessions. I just don't get the 5 minutes here and there mindset ig

[lament cloud]

Not at all the same

[lament cloud]

Damn gba looks nice then on this screen

Might be time to give up the rg35xxsp

[novel crane]

Snes is full screen too

[lament cloud]

Yee

"Don't be a dick" lmao it's the internet, welcome to the free market of opinions

[stable atlas]

Same screen as ayaneo pocket dmg?

[mossy crow]

yes

[rare magnet]

I am not going to ask what kind of games you need to play with only one hand.

[novel crane]

For me, Vertical have always been more the Pick Up and Play console than you play when you have some downtime and gotta rush back off your break

Horizontal are you more Sit down and vibe console, for those longer rides/trips or when your at home on a lazy day

[lament cloud]

Both can be made to do long or short sessions

For example rp4 was not comfortable for long sessions

I find the rg35xxsp to be very comfortable for 2+ hours

[thick isle]

Wish the back pedals are not as clicky as 40xxv

[ashen vault]

That’s because we haven’t had many horizontal flip options yet

[novel crane]

Clamshells are their own can of worms xD

[ashen vault]

Fair enough

[rare magnet]

For me, verticals have always been "Man, this is uncomfortable. I wish I could play this on something else." But that's me ...

[ashen vault]

True my rp5 feels like I’m playing on a tv remote

That thing is so loooooong

[novel crane]

My Odin 2 Mini feels like Im playing on a suped up Vita.... the OG 2 feels like im playing on the true switch lite xD

[ashen vault]

Suped up vita sounds nice though

But then again the vita only worked so well because it don’t have triggers

[rare magnet]

I liked what they did with the O2Mini ... fixed the Vita's stick problem.

[gusty socket]

Do you think if we wait like 9 months they will release a “Retroid Pocket Classic Flip”?

[rare magnet]

(Also fixed the trigger problem - allowing that form factor to play "modern" games like Borderlands 2 properly.)

[turbid haven]

nah 3 months after it comes out, we'll get a classic flip 😏 3 plus memories

[novel crane]

I hope not

[rare magnet]

How about a Retroid Pocket Classic Flip 2 Pro Plus?

[thick isle]

I already have 5 devices for low end games

[rare magnet]

The Plus is the one that has a single analog slider.

[thick isle]

Only if they make a 4” brick then I will buy another

[wild beacon]

temper you expectations, for 4:3 content it's exactly the same 3.7" physical area as the mini, only 1:1 ish content (e.g Game Boy) benefits from the extra inches

[gusty socket]

3.7 out of 3.9 ain’t bad, looks pretty good on the example picture posted earlier. And the only 4:3 content you’ll be playing is PlayStation and Nintendo DS

I hate to say this but I’m so worried about a classic flip that I might actually hold off even though this seems like an amazing handheld. I would prefer a flip with these controls/screen that it would be no contest

[wild beacon]

there's always going to be the next thing in handhelds

just get it and sell it later if something better comes along

[gusty socket]

Yeah, I’m speaking from experience with this fear. It’s easier to justify a purchase that I don’t need when it’s $50ish. But my collection is huge now with devices I don’t use

I was planning to sell them towards the classic but if a flip came out I’d flip out

[rare magnet]

Whether there is a classic Flip probably depends on whether problems surface with the Flip 2 when it gets into the wild.

[gusty socket]

That’s a good point

[delicate ermine]

I bet more on D900/SD865

[ashen vault]

Yeah sounds more like it

Both make sense

[mossy crow]

beyond the dozen people who care about saturn, i really don't see the point of the 865 w/o at least one analog input tbh

[delicate ermine]

Linux really, and on the off chance that this has no HDMI port video out, I guess

[ashen vault]

Or stereo speakers ;))

[mossy crow]

fr there's all that room on the left lol

should've stuck a slider in the middle too for dc/n64

[gusty socket]

I would’ve hated a stick but I could see the value of a slider

[mossy crow]

at least on the 6 button model since they're already making special shells & internals for it

[gusty socket]

If it had a slider I’d probably get the 6 button model so I could play N64

Or better yet, they could make a N64 model

[delicate ermine]

I would be laughing my ass off, if they reveal on monday that this is running an A523 or something

[analog thunder]

RK3566 or whatever that one is that everything used for years

[delicate ermine]

it's gotta be an chip with an Android build tho

[analog thunder]

Your mom benefits from a few extra inches (she prefers snes games in 8:7)

Introducing Retroid's new proprietary android build for the RK3566

[wild beacon]

I would probably bet more on a single d900 option

not too powerful, not too weak

sounds about right

[delicate ermine]

making an extra PCB isn't exactly the expensive part, especially compared to making an additional mold for the Saturn version

also once they run out of D900 only the SD865 model will remain

[inland frost]

I feel like d900 makes the most sense

but an 865 would be so funny

(also itd just be an xperia play 2 at that point)

[blissful badge]

My theory is that they will make the other models d900 and the Saturn model a higher end chip like a 865 because Saturn emulation

[novel crane]

This is probably the most senseable thing they'll do

D900 for the main ones, 865 for the Saturn one

[inland frost]

I really hope that doesn’t happen, never played a saturn or even sega game in my life and it’d be awful to find out the lesser version (in terms of 4 button control schemed games) is more powerful..

[meager jasper]

865 is the only option for Linux support across the lineup

[pseudo dove]

Linux please!

[meager jasper]

Maybe they offer a $150 d1100 and $200 865 but that still undercuts the analog pocket, the pocket DMG, and the pocket micro

[pseudo dove]

Surely it would cost less than the retroid mini, lack of sticks and glass etc

[novel crane]

That is.... a take. The 865 would not only be beneficial for Saturn alone, but also a ton of arcade games and fighting games as well, so it's not just adding 6 buttons for saturn alone

[blissful badge]

I'm saying I think they will make the 4 button layout with the less powerful chip and the 6 button layout with a more powerful chip to take advantage of better Saturn emulation. Keeps it from being too confusing with too many skus while limiting it to only two skus

[lunar pecan]

1080p hmmm

[inland frost]

I get that, but when you add 6 buttons, the four face buttons take a hit since they aren’t totally symmetrical anymore

I will say, the arc did a decent job of making the conversion NOT bad

[novel crane]

The Arc is legit just a saturn controller, but lacked the power to play it lmao

[lunar pecan]

and SNES?

[novel crane]

SNES fills the screen

[lunar pecan]

yum

[pseudo dove]

Which arcade games do you need an 865 for?

[novel crane]

Later Atomiswave, Naomi, and stable gameplay for Killer Instinct and Die Hard

[inland frost]

I think they meant the button layout and not the CPU

nevermind

[novel crane]

I kinda meant both, but mainly the control scheme

[pseudo dove]

In terms of buttons there’s only Capcom that really do/did 6

I’m just trying to decide if I need 6 really 🤣

[rose dove]

6>4

[inland frost]

you don’t, the base 4 are great in comparison to the 6’s base 4 which are awful unfortunately

[blissful badge]

I mean there will always be compromises when it comes to button layouts and trying to accurately replicate control schemes from many different game systems. The 4 button one is usually a good middle ground to encompass all systems but of course it will take a hit when trying to play systems designed with a 6 face button lay out. The 6 face button layout will excel with sega and arcade systems but will take a hit with more tradition control layouts on other systems

[pseudo dove]

Yeah for the odd game of something using 6 buttons the shoulders will suffice

[inland frost]

It’s true, yeah.

[rose dove]

But everybody already has 4 button verticals

6 is more special

[pseudo dove]

Not with a 1:1 screen and oled at that

[inland frost]

Even so, I still find the 4 button layout better, just my opinion and if they do end up using an 865, put it in that one as well, don’t ask how it would be useful to me (or anyone who feels the same)

(this)

[shrewd adder]

I want a RP2S with this screen and maybe a stronger chip

[rose dove]

I don't disagree at all that they should have the more powerful option (if there is one) in both 4 and 6 button

[delicate ermine]

D900 only handheld got way more likely right now, Chris said there is no USB-C port at the bottom, aka no proper Retroid Dock compatibility

[novel crane]

Ok ok

So D900 stocks definitely went up

[rose dove]

Maybe they'll do a classic pro and call it the Modern

[delicate ermine]

yeah, at least it would be incredibly whack if they make a D1100/SD865 version and you have to dock it upside down

also if there is only a D900 version, it would make way more sense to put in an HDMI out port

[meager jasper]

If there isn't a Linux version

[analog thunder]

It's Retroid not Retrux

Though yeah officially supported Linux options would be really nice

[late rock]

Is that actually why they're called Retroid

[full vortex]

Yes lol

[late rock]

Like they've said that?

[full vortex]

Their entire line is android

[late rock]

So is ayn

Ayndroid

[full vortex]

We’re not talking about Ayn lmao

Wut

[late rock]

I mean they're practically the same company

[rose dove]

Loki getting 0 love

[late rock]

Oh yeah forgot about that

[rose dove]

That's exactly what ayn wants

[late rock]

Kind of weird to only use android just because they said so though

[rare magnet]

Of course they're the same company. AYNdroid vs retROID. If the symmetry were any more beautiful, I would break down and cry.

[late rock]

I think the rp5 and odin 2 portal confirms it tbh

Same design language and everything

[analog thunder]

https://youtu.be/Uu8hDBKmy_c

[novel crane]

I think Retroid will primarily stay Android, but want to open up the door to linux too

[late rock]

I'm not an android hater but android on a vertical just feels wrong

[rare magnet]

Probably a wise move. Opens up some "new" emulation areas now that Android currently is a little stagnant, and the Linux community will do pretty much all of the (Linux) development work for them without them having to spend their own resources.

[delicate ermine]

sad Loki noises

[late rock]

You're a little late

[rare magnet]

I mean ... phones are basically verticals. To me, Android just feels wrong if there's no touchscreen.

[late rock]

They have so much less screen space though, and the orientation of the phone doesn't really count

[analog thunder]

I definitely do prefer Linux OSes. Android is my biggest issue with my 406v rn lol, it's not terrible but muOS is so dang nice

[novel crane]

If only the D900 was able to open up with linux, I wouldn't be too worried

[frank plinth]

Might have already been discussed, but any chance this will sit in the official Retroid dock?

[rare magnet]

They said no port on the bottom, so ...

[late rock]

Thats a strange design decision

[junior fox]

I feel like Chris might be foolin’ saying that there’s no usb port on the bottom

[rare magnet]

it wouldn't be the only one of these kinds of devices that had the ports on the top, though.

[novel crane]

....

The more i look at the Classic and think about it, the more im just leaning toward it either being the D900 or a linux chip. Cause even with the new devices on the market, this doesn't have a back button or home button. Just the middle, start, select, and the volume/power buttons

[meager jasper]

I could see them putting it on the side to be like a "link cable" but that would be a mistake imo

[novel crane]

Might be wrong

[junior fox]

You could be onto something

I hope it’s android though

[rare magnet]

Well, we'll probably know in a few more days - one way or the other.

[summer marsh]

Retroid literally had android in their name tho. Isn’t the middle button the home button?

I say this as a Linux fan. Hope we get a chip that supports it.

[junior fox]

Linux, even the nice OSs, feels clunky to me

https://tenor.com/view/running-gif-25634506

[summer marsh]

Android, even the nice OSs, feels clunky to me

[junior fox]

Broooooo

I thought we were 865 homies 😭

It’s fair enough

[summer marsh]

Let’s not fight about this tired topic, we are 100% sd865 homies 🙂

[junior fox]

I do get why people like muos and minui in particular

And onion

[summer marsh]

Yeah I love all 3 of those. Though I want this to run Saturn well more than I care about any of that lol

[junior fox]

On my CubeXX running muos, after I wake it up, games run at like 3x

Can’t determine wth is wrong

[river remnant]

No info on price yet right?

[novel crane]

No

[wild beacon]

no but at least people aren't posting cow memes yet on this one

[brittle tiger]

Nah, other way around from what I’ve usually seen.

Although given how many subreddits there are, it probably is dependent on where you are.

[stone ice]

we can post calves here

[rough depot]

Only 8 bit cows, we’re classic here

[brittle tiger]

Wait, oh shit that is legit old. Sorry about that, didn’t notice the date for that comment until now.

[pseudo dove]

Likely to get the full specs today??

[delicate ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/vaquita-comiendo-pasto-bien-bonita-gif-17681535

[rough depot]

Check again in 2 weeks lol

[junior fox]

I don’t think there will be any news until next week at the earliest

I wonder if there were disruptions to the schedule of the Flip 2. They originally said they would give more info on this classic joint after the Flip 2 began shipping

[modest mantle]

I dunno. Isn't this like 3 news drops in 5 days

I'm really thinking they're lining this up for a joint March preorder

[junior fox]

That’s what I think too

Offer that combo again

[modest mantle]

Combo would be the one way they'd get me XD

[junior fox]

Somebody posted a size comparison on the Retroid discord

Estimated 15mm shorter than Pocket DMG

I still think the bottom portion of the device is too short. Should have added more area to hang onto

[modest mantle]

And other thing/s we'll no longer harp on

But yeah. That's my only dislike of the mini+. I ended up adding a 3D printed GB booty to it and it's just so much better

[pseudo dove]

I suppose they’ve given us more info than the original plan of the end of the month 😅

[novel crane]

Im expecting price by middle of the month

Cause it's already the 7th

[meager jasper]

As an Onion OS user on the Miyoo Mini and MinUI on the Brick I can say that linux is superior in this form factor.

[halcyon gyro]

I don't like the battery drain and the boot up times of linux so this is just up my alley

enjoyed my rg405V till the case started cracking by itself

[pseudo dove]

Input lag scares me

[junior fox]

Ok man

[abstract pecan]

Never mind. Screen specs were already posted:

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[modest mantle]

100%

[halcyon gyro]

from what I heard the input lag from the Sd865 has been pretty amazing judging from the rp mini

[simple wyvern]

Has anyone made any magic calculations based on the renders to have an idea of how this compares to the ayaneo dmg in size?

[pseudo dove]

Only thing I’ve seen is a comparison with the rp5 using the dpad as a measure

[novel crane]

So closer to the Analogue Pocket and the 40xx

Vs the 35xx or the MM+

[pseudo dove]

The dpad position looks loooww compared the to 40xxv