Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[gentle badge]

They’re not gonna punish us by not selling us handhelds

[distant drum]

That would put pressure on the US to yield.

[tranquil elbow]

dont worry, the US has no allies left

[gentle badge]

Vietnam might get punished for swearing fealty to trump

But yeah other than that not sure who they would punish

[distant drum]

Isolationism tends to ostracize potential allies lol

[tacit latch]

ngl I don't know how to feel as a minute 1 preorder after hearing Joey's concern

cheap plastic, poor speakers and a whiny fan are all things that would bother me

[gentle badge]

The fan thing has to be at least partially software

It runs like mad even in quiet mode

[tacit latch]

and I don't have a lot confidence that these will be resolved in retail units

[tranquil elbow]

that's fair, if you're in doubt you can just cancel and buy it later when more people have it in their hands

[wintry oxide]

There, back on topic

[tacit latch]

I like to live dangerously, just wish I knew what I'm getting

Retroid isn't answering Joey so

[tranquil elbow]

I've had the same doubts but we've already talked about this yesterday

Joey really loves to overblow things

Russ and Stubbs said it felt fine to them so that's good enough for me

besides, even with the flaws, I've wanted a powerful clamshell for a long time now and the flip2 is the only option that doesnt cost 1000+ € so I'll just deal with them haha

[restive totem]

They're not gonna run out of stock tbh If you're in doubt just wait the consumers opinion pop out here and yt / fb .

[floral pebble]

Would you rather cancel and potentially see everyone else enjoy the toy you thought wouldn't be good enough? Or hold on to the pre-order and possibly be the first to get a piece of noisy flexy garbage nobody wants to play with?

[tacit latch]

also did I hallucinate it or did at least one reviewer described the speakers as bassy and punchy?

[restive totem]

Dweeb did i think , he liked the speakers

Dweeb is light Canadian and Joey is dark Canadian

[arctic scaffold]

if you throw out criticisms about 500 minor/possible issues you can be that one guy that definitely told you so when there's an issue

trusted early access reviewer

[restive totem]

I am not against Joey at all

Guy pointed out the flaws he found , it's up to the consumers to find it tolerable or not

[floral pebble]

I prefer Joey's crochety guy routine over tech dweeb's nerdisms

[restive totem]

For me , that plastic on the Ice Blue is a no go

[floral pebble]

But it's easy to understand why people might dislike either

[restive totem]

So i thank him for pointing it out

[restive totem]

People don't like Dweeb because of the trolling tone on his videos, in 2025 that's not for everyone. I watch him because he's funny , he's ETA but funny

People don't like Joey because some folks want the reviewers to validate their purchasing choice.

[tranquil elbow]

yep thats the only reason why people might find Joey annoying

that's exactly why I find him annoying when I see videos of devices I dont have and dont intend to buy

I want him to validate my nonexistant purchases

[arctic scaffold]

the main thing i remember is him changing the sticks on the rg556 and going wow what an improvement when it does barely jack shit without gamma stick fix

[coral valley]

I'm like 90% sure that's his actual voice tbh, though if you go back a few years in videos you can tell he toned down the shtick a lot since then

[noble canyon]

Yea his old voice used to be so much worse

I don’t mind his voice these past few years

[limpid ledge]

I mean everyone didn't know it was software issue that cause the sticks like that

[noble canyon]

But back then holy shit

[restive totem]

You can also don't watch him so your purchasing choices can still fell validated

[coral valley]

If he's putting on a fake voice he's doing a terrific job because he sounds similar in live streams too

[tranquil elbow]

I watch him cause I value the information he provides with the big asterisk of "it's joey, so this end of the world issue is probably nothing, but good to know it exists"

[restive totem]

We all know that's Russ doing the Canadian accent in there

[hallow pulsar]

My observation is that Joey says a lot of definitives. “These sticks are the WORST.” “This plastic is the WORST.” ETA hits the same tone but the positives. “This ABSOLUTELY will suit your needs.”

I often lean towards Russ’s opinion simply because it’s less colored than the other two.

[limpid ledge]

Person like me I like watching top people reviews and know their stuff

[coral valley]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[restive totem]

Awesome

[tranquil elbow]

thats exactly what I was saying yesterday. I watch both ETA prime and Joey with the big asterisk in both directions

[hallow pulsar]

100%

[tranquil elbow]

if I wanted to feel validated I'd just watch ETA prime who just loses his mind about everything

[arctic scaffold]

sure, but thinking it was improved at all before you also apply the fix is uh

[coral valley]

The way eta prime says geekbench cracks me up everytime

[restive totem]

" Personally "

[arctic scaffold]

I'm not a negative review hater btw I only read negative reviews when making my decision

I'm just a joey hater

[coral valley]

"I turned this 20 year old phone into an emulation BEAST!!!"

[arctic scaffold]

his takes aren't good

he just really wants to find stuff "other lesser reviewers" misses

[tranquil elbow]

didnt he also basically push Russ under the bus about the mini fiasco?

or am I misremembering

[limpid ledge]

Again why this is matter tho I seen people try to improvement sticks to the device that had shit controls

[limpid ledge]

Nope

[restive totem]

" More info on my full review "

Review never comes

[tranquil elbow]

ah yes the good old "if you can't do better, you're not allowed to comment on it"

the dumbest phrase ever uttered on planet earth

[arctic scaffold]

it's his claim that what he did to it improved it

[limpid ledge]

If it's shit it's shit

[tranquil elbow]

maybe some of you guys should reconsider your parasocial relationship with the youtubers you watch

cause it's kinda cringe

[limpid ledge]

Yh safe

[tranquil elbow]

what does that even mean lmao

[coral valley]

The only parasocial relationship I have is with magicx sean

[limpid ledge]

Aw

[arctic scaffold]

I'm not even gonna say it's probably not gonna flex more than other devices, just what joey's takes on it are probably shit

like putting it on a table and pressing down to show it flexes? yea because it's a clamshell so it has solid contact with the desktop

try it on a regular device and the buttons/analog is going to cushion it

[opaque harbor]

who is joey?

[tranquil elbow]

a reviewer

[limpid ledge]

To be honest tho clamshell when it's flexes like that can bit a worried God forbid you sit on it and breaks you want a clamshell feel solid and hard

[tranquil elbow]

who the hell sits on their handhelds

[limpid ledge]

Lots of people if they have the stuff on the sofa, bed

[opaque harbor]

ah yes because sitting on a handheld is ever a good idea?

[tranquil elbow]

I keep most of my tech toys on my bed cause it's a double and I live alone

never sat on anything

and even if I did, I dont have a stainless steel ass and I dont sleep on a piece of wood

so it would prolly be okay

[opaque harbor]

you should not sit on a handheld, a tablet, a laptop, or a phone do I really need to point out the obvious? 😅

[tranquil elbow]

no but it is known that you're 200% more likely to sit on a clamshell

try to sit on a rp5 with a full front glass panel and tell me how it goes

[limpid ledge]

It could be anyone in your family who accidentally sit on something I'm not saying it would happen

[opaque harbor]

don't sit on display including tvs

[tranquil elbow]

are we really saying "the flip2 shouldnt flex because what if my grandma sits on it"

are we at this point

[opaque harbor]

so we should do bend tests on laptop screens for a potential sit accident? can we be serious people here?

[arctic scaffold]

ok found it

#🕹│rh-general message

[opaque harbor]

do not sit on screens

[arctic scaffold]

should say a lot about his common sense/character

[opaque harbor]

do not drop them either

[tranquil elbow]

what am I looking at

[restive totem]

My theory for why the Retroid chat is cursed and Anbernic isn't it's because they have their stuff ready to ship fast.
We would be posting about the handheld if we had it

[opaque harbor]

accidents happen but you can't expect tech to be indestructible, as long as thing are no less durable then reasonably expected anything else is silly

[limpid ledge]

I was going to be put the meme but my gif is not working some reason

[tranquil elbow]

also do you know what hard plastic does

it cracks

it's a balancing act

[opaque harbor]

can confirm the anbernic channels I have been in have had shorter periods of weirdness

[tranquil elbow]

it's prolly right though, anbernic used to release one handheld every 26 minutes

so people had a lot to talk about

[opaque harbor]

and channels like the ktr1 and 199 were crazy

[limpid ledge]

Great time

[opaque harbor]

kind of interesting seeing how ayn has effected the scene

[limpid ledge]

I mean ayn is only company improve thier quality overall make me happy

And communication

[opaque harbor]

a shame ayn has not made a clamshell but it is what it is

[limpid ledge]

Hopefully soon

[sharp narwhal]

And actual software updates for their devices 🤯

[tranquil elbow]

would definitely buy a s8g2 clamshell from ayn

[coral valley]

Odin 2 portal flip

[opaque harbor]

eh that chip currently feels overkill

[coral valley]

Nah

[limpid ledge]

Not really

[opaque harbor]

emulators that are more powerful are not in a great place yet

[tranquil elbow]

its really good cause it can handle everything you throw at it without having to fiddle with configs

[limpid ledge]

Like the switch wii u and winlator and ps3

[opaque harbor]

for arm at least, maybe is somewhat better on x86

[tranquil elbow]

with shaders on top of it and it just works

[coral valley]

Exactly

[restive totem]

There are rumors they may do it , a clamshell Portal would be awesome

[tranquil elbow]

yeah, that would be an instabuy for me

[opaque harbor]

a shame it will be after tariffs probably 😅

people in europe might get it tho

[tranquil elbow]

hey thats me

Im in Europe

[restive totem]

Hope to see one for the 360 one day , playing Gears of War in a handheld would be awesome

[opaque harbor]

not being able to play the gears of war series on a handheld is unfortunate

[limpid ledge]

If xbox decided to do gears of wars collection and put on pc

I will cry

Tears of joy

[limpid ledge]

Mannnn

[opaque harbor]

ah well maybe one day the series will be playable on a handheld

[tranquil elbow]

I never liked Gears of War 🥲

[opaque harbor]

the gameplay would be very well suited to a handheld

a cover shooter would be much better for a handheld then a regular fps that might be more high octane

[tranquil elbow]

that's definitely true

[limpid ledge]

I can't lie you speaking facts

[opaque harbor]

still might play the occasional fps but a cover shooter would be more suited to the form factor

[sharp narwhal]

It really is more suited - much preferred playing the Gears of War games via Game Pass streaming compared to a FPS like Halo

[strange ivy]

You can trust Joey to find and notice flaws and issues. Same can't be said about how he exaggerates those flaws.

[opaque harbor]

@wary sail I am curious how you feel about the grey retroid pocket flip 2 you received?

[craggy kestrel]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/v6BoVoMlb28sOnCZJ56pdlNy5Gndx1OFm5HcE_jXuxY/https/cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did%3Aplc%3A6m7rbdgaz5vyg4bnbefi7kh6/bafkreiacpalf5vdkygkkg2tc2sx333z7s3k7oquyakntw5qxan6zgsvhxi%40jpeg?format=webp&width=1335&height=1107

🤣

source https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/customs-reports-glitch-in-system-used-by-freight-for-tariff-exemptions.html

[coral valley]

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

[restive totem]

Halo is better with a mouse + keyboard

[rapid echo]

Bruh 1v1 me on MCC Halo 2 or Halo 3. lol

[restive totem]

The Masterchief Collection on the pc is 👌

[rapid echo]

I havent played in a year so that might help you.

[limpid ledge]

I got confession to make tho

I never played halo in my life

I know halo I seen people played it

Hell the commercial I seen them I was little kid

[rapid echo]

In terms of difficulty, halo 3 campaign is easiest.

if you ever wanted to start playing

[restive totem]

Play 1 -4 and Reach , after that the series died tbh

[coral valley]

Nah you have to play halo 5 to understand just how bad it got

Infinite is pretty fun too even if the story is pretty mediocre

[limpid ledge]

Oh dear is that bad

[coral valley]

The story is so bad it feels like a fanfiction

[restive totem]

The guide is if it's made by Bungie = great

Not made by bungie = bad

[rapid echo]

SO halo 4 counts as bad

[restive totem]

I was literally cheering for the covenant tbh

[limpid ledge]

I heard stories about halo 5 being mis marketing for the story alone

[restive totem]

I don't like 4 tbh 😂 But not as bad as 5 or Infinite

[coral valley]

Halo 4 is okay imo, not great, not terrible

[restive totem]

Microsoft literally did dirty to the franchise that made Xbox big imo

[noble canyon]

I’m in Hawaii rn

Time to steal Russ’s flip 2 early

🔥

[opaque harbor]

Kind of random 😅

[coral valley]

As much as I want more halo it probably would have been for the best if they ended it after reach

[lilac sable]

which island

[opaque harbor]

Honestly I didn't like reach myself

[noble canyon]

Honolulu

[lilac sable]

ah

[limpid ledge]

Microsoft 2013 to 2017 was darkest days for the company alone

[rapid echo]

https://tenor.com/view/shaquille-o-neal-excited-shaking-gif-17033211358041704355

[restive totem]

Reach was sort of the perfect ending imo

[restive totem]

Sinner

[opaque harbor]

Don't care

[tranquil elbow]

I remember being very confused by halo when it came out cause people were LOSING THEIR MIND about it

[restive totem]

https://tenor.com/view/pesci-goodfellas-whacked-tommy-killed-gif-9347144807012696845

[tranquil elbow]

and I had always been a pc gamer and I was like "uhm it just looks like any other fps"

so I tried it

and

it was just a generic, if well made, fps

coming from doom, quake, half life I really didnt see why people were freaking out

I guess console people didnt know what a good fps was like

[opaque harbor]

The series was pretty good but bugie had some weird plans for it that probably doomed it to fail after the 3rd game

[floral pebble]

How could they? No mouse

[tranquil elbow]

well halo had no mouse either haha

and hell, halo 1 was a good game

but half life it was not

[opaque harbor]

Also comparing quake and half life to halo feels weird

[restive totem]

Me with any COD

[tranquil elbow]

I gotta say the original modern warfare campaign was really well done

but yeah, never was a CoD fan

[opaque harbor]

Halo is clearly different from what came before

[tranquil elbow]

on console, yeah

on pc we had a million games like halo

[opaque harbor]

Just in general

[tranquil elbow]

most of them better

[floral pebble]

Command and conquer renegade was the first multi-player fps I played

[opaque harbor]

There was a good reason the halo series became a system seller it redefined the genre for years

[tranquil elbow]

played doom 2 in LAN cause I had 2 pcs in my house

[tranquil elbow]

I agree

cause there was nothing else like it

on console

[opaque harbor]

Not just on console

[tranquil elbow]

and it didnt redefine anything on pc

[opaque harbor]

Including the games you mentioned on pc

[tranquil elbow]

in fact 2 years after halo we had HL2 which was nothing like halo

and that DID redefine the genre

[opaque harbor]

Well yea of course valve would go with something different it's valve

They go in different directions

[restive totem]

The og Doom and Halo had a similar impact on the gaming scene in general

[tranquil elbow]

can you give me the titles of 3 big PC FPS that were clearly redefined by halo

cause I dont see it

[tranquil elbow]

oh I agree with that, halo is the reason FPS are on consoles right now

I just dont see the influence it had on pc gaming

[opaque harbor]

What do you mean 3 big PC fps games most games became multiplatform eventually?

Due to how savvy steam was

[tranquil elbow]

tell me 3 titles that came out on pc after 2001 that are clearly inspired by halo

since you said it "redefined the genre" and I said "not on pc"

[floral pebble]

Crysis, Sims, GTA V

[tranquil elbow]

ok you got me

[quiet reef]

How to get Flip 2 without tarrifs:

[restive totem]

Since it's the retroid chat

Mafia/ Red Dead Redemption >>>>>> GTA

[tranquil elbow]

genius

man I played RDR2 a couple years ago

[restive totem]

Those colors 👌

[tranquil elbow]

It took me like 4 tries to get into it

and then something clicked and I did nothing else but play rdr2 until I finished it (I was on holiday leave)

[quiet reef]

2 screens too lol

[tranquil elbow]

what. a. game.

[craggy kestrel]

my flip one doesn't play most ps2/gcn well though or lite ps3/switch

[quiet reef]

Wish I could swap start/select but this is all Retroid had lol

[restive totem]

rdr2 is superior to the original
It's wild west Elder Scrolls in terms of eternal gameplay

[quiet reef]

They sent me what ever buttons they had lying around

[tranquil elbow]

I didnt even play all the side content just beelined the main quest and I loved it

(and did the important side quests)

[restive totem]

I did the main first and then completed again with the side quests.
I'd more excited for rdr3 than for GTA VI tbh

[tranquil elbow]

still holding out hope for RDR3 with sadie as the MC

and yeah I dont really care about GTA VI

Ill play it but Im not counting the days or anything

[distant drum]

More like Flip BOooOooO

[hallow pulsar]

If Halo 4 used the same design aesthetic as 2 and 3 it would be hailed as king tbh. Story is fire.

[coral valley]

I liked the dynamic between chief and Cortina, didn't really like the didact as a villain tbh

[quiet reef]

Halo enthusiast here. Halo 4 gameplay wise felt a bit off as well. But absolutely agree with story, especially the cutscenes

[fossil timber]

Really only ever played the Halo games in multiplayer at friends houses growing up, oddly I was really surprised to learn the games actually had a proper story in like freshman year of highschool when people were complaining about the story of the new game.
Unsurprisingly given that revelation my favorite games are Minecraft, Stardew Valley, and Lego Star Wars the Complete Saga

[quiet reef]

Halo Reach is the greatest war story ever told and I’ll die on that hill

20 out of 10 masterpiece

[fossil timber]

I mean, the original clone wars cartoon had clones and droids charging eachother with lances on speeder bikes...and mace windu punching super battledroids with his bare hands...
Ok so clone wars is more power trip fantasty than war story.

[restive totem]

Remember Reach

[hallow pulsar]

Okay I was Watching Joey’s livestream and he was saying how he wished the flip 2 had the flip 1 hinge. That’s crazy right? Wasn’t that the unanimous MAIN ISSUE with the flip 1?

[night vessel]

When did he say that?

[hallow pulsar]

His latest video. Right around where he lists his 3 big issues with the flip 2

[severe ridge]

timestamp

[night vessel]

You sure?

[gentle badge]

I think you're misunderstanding him

I'm pretty sure he wants the flip 1 shell with the flip 2 hinge

[noble canyon]

He never said that

Joey on his discord responded to ur comment and said he never said that

Or never meant that

He prolly meant plastic

His hinge is still going good

Plastic quality seems mixed by reviewers but we don’t know if it’s QC or preprod issues, I don’t think Joey is overreacting that flex on his device looks terrible

[hallow pulsar]

Oh that makes sense. Yeah it was a passing comment when he was talking about the plastic quality. I think I misunderstood what he was actually saying.

Cause later says he can’t comment on the hinge cause the device is so new haha

My Bad. Just misheard.

[quiet reef]

If true, that’s a craaazy take. I mean apart from the watermelon being immune pretty much every color had hinge issues. Race car red was cooked on arrival

[severe ridge]

read literally the message above what you just typed for some reason lol

[copper sequoia]

Imagine a DNA duo on a flip 2 😂😂

[quiet reef]

TLDR my bad

[hallow pulsar]

100%

[severe ridge]

he hasnt shipped a single one yet, dont give that dude a dime

[copper sequoia]

Oh I’m absolutely joking

[severe ridge]

i feel the need to chime in, in case someone new sees it and goes to buy one

dont want them to be sad

at least not for that

[noble canyon]

Ppl be talking about Joey and forget about dna

[coral valley]

I want the dna duo to be good tbh

Idk if I want to fork over $200 usd though

[copper sequoia]

The tariffs are gonna kill any progress he’s made I bet

[coral valley]

Pretty sure he's Canadian so idk how much he'll be affected

[copper sequoia]

Ah ok

At least not that problem

[limpid ledge]

Lmaoooo

[coral valley]

I like the idea 🤷‍♂️

[copper sequoia]

Not my post. But thoughts, chat?

[coral valley]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-its-peak-omni-man-peak-gif-13128163821234406100

I'm impressed they managed to make it look pretty comfortable too

[waxen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[copper sequoia]

Basically if anberlick made a 40xxsp with sticks

[quiet reef]

Definitely more pocketable but probably cramped irl

[rigid thicket]

I feel like you can make the DNA Duo for a fraction of the price yourself.

Like, I even recognize the cheap Aliexpress USB cable he uses.

[coral valley]

There's just one problem

I dont have a 3d printer

[rigid thicket]

3D print shops are relatively common depending on where you are. A lot of libraries offer it as a service too now.

But also, there are folding phone clamps you can just clamp a screen to.

[coral valley]

Well I've used the mechanism phone mount before which is okay

[mystic void]

Just now replaying halo 1 again

Love how simple it is

[coral valley]

But honestly when you tally up the costs for the portable monitor as well as the 3d printing service, I don't think it's going to be that much cheaper than the dna duo

Depends on the monitor of course though

[left turret]

this is something that anbernic should do rn

[opaque harbor]

Where would you even get a good screen?

[distant drum]

I don’t even believe there’s a difference between engineering samples and review units and retail units. They just use that term to falsely heighten your expectations.

[copper sequoia]

I got this ad on IG and it’s sad bc the first thing I thought of was the Flip logo 🤣

Maybe it’s a sign

[gentle badge]

Gee I wonder where they could find a 4:3 OLED… oh no.

Jokes aside I’d buy this if it were the 406 lcd

[copper sequoia]

You’re right, this screen needs more bezels

[gentle badge]

406 lcd in a clamshell would be great

Just bigger footprint gba sp, don’t care if that’s sd865 or h700

[opaque harbor]

Does ordering a set of replacement sticks to use for the rp flip 2 seem like something worth doing?

[rapid echo]

If you're planning on to use it very frequent for many years.

[opaque harbor]

Well I mean as in case things get worn while tariffs are still going on

[gentle badge]

They’re hall sticks, they should last longer than the handheld

[opaque harbor]

But not the rubber 😅

[rapid echo]

Can you get thumbstick caps. switch thumb caps may fit but won't close the shell completely so you would have to put them on every time you want to use. Unless you get thin caps for the clearance.

I use caps on all my handhelds so it doesn't degrade the thumbstick rubber over time.

[untold oyster]

That would look nice, but it seems there is not a complete gray button set available?🤷‍♂️

[icy bramble]

#1336037750889250960 message
Where is "the darkness I contain could not be kept within the confines of a therapist's office and would surely be passed on for study"?

[copper burrow]

Happy weekend folks, what random shit we gonna be angry at today 😄

[steady osprey]

Probably anyone who recently ordered not getting their tracking number this weekend haha

[copper burrow]

I am going to laugh so hard when that happens 😄

[uncut knoll]

What is the current state of the conversation?

[copper burrow]

when i scrolled up it was still on the joey bashing for weird reasons 😄

[sour ore]

The dpad screen wars continue...

[opal zenith]

Flip2 It's just ugly...

[opaque harbor]

Outside of the somewhat annoying emblem on the top the flip 2 seems to look fine

[vital belfry]

Brooo

[restive totem]

Shipping starts tomorrow ( sunday ) as they said
Prepare the popcorn

[uncut knoll]

https://youtu.be/CzfHdedbr8M?si=54FAn7yDKkBkRAps

[icy bramble]

Sonic Lost World 3ds mentioned...

Also it's very much a platformer lol

Precision, you could take or leave...

I didn't pay enough attention to tell if he was playing it wrong or not

[long lagoon]

I'm so cooked I my order was Placed on April 3, 2025 at 8:35 am

so

I'm not getting it this month :(

[fossil timber]

Did I miss a retroid announcement?

[uncut knoll]

The repair parts that retroid could sell for the flip 2 will the same as the rp5?

[wind geyser]

I did and still understood it the way that I did. I was vocally open to being wrong bc it felt so bizarre and out of pocket that i figured I was misunderstanding some context or satire. Sorry for the trouble.

[random tulip]

Yeah. Pretty sure alias was being sarcastic, like, this is what they think is happening in their heads, type deal

[wind geyser]

Yea i get that now, at the time there was enough actual nonsense going on that I figured some rando was throwing onto the fire

[random tulip]

Nah. I got you

Discord convos can be very disjoint at the best of times 😆

[wintry oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/gameboyluke-were-the-best-of-the-worst-gif-24394293

[cyan seal]

I ended up getting black - I like RGB and it goes best with a solid black console. I’ll eventually swap the buttons for skittles ones if Sakura Retro Mods or someone makes them.

I have a black Odin 2, black Deck, black 2DS XL, but a silver 35xx SP and a white Miyoo M+

And a turquoise modded Switch Lite

I should be consistent and go all black with everything lol

Maybe I’ll do a black shell swap when I get my Super5 OLED kit

[copper burrow]

bit of an odd review, he spent most of the video slating it then end says recommend 😄

[clear jewel]

He's not wrong about the controls but it feels like an omission to not mention that the sticks are on the outside because theyre full height and recessed, and they dont have to punch through the circuit board that way.

Although even cheap systems like the trimui smart pro use daughter boards for dpad and button surfaces so that could have been done I suppose.

This is tsp... Note the shitty analogs overlap the main board up up near the twisted speaker wires.

Has anyone done a flip teardown yet?

[tranquil elbow]

havent seen one, I think the chinese reviewer opened the back shell but that was it

[clear jewel]

You can just imagine though. Shift the analogs to the inside and theres very little space for processor cooling and battery.

[copper sequoia]

Legend has it, Stubbs is still searching for the right screwdriver.

[clear jewel]

Trump just exempted computers from Chinese tariffs today

[coral valley]

We're so back (for now)

[clear jewel]

Speaking of promoting factory growth, business opportunity to make a Chinese factory that builds a 2000lb r36s powered by an EV battery. Ships to us tariff free. Or maybe a 1000watt solar powered r36s.

[versed vigil]

The first time they tried earlier, they were just straight up trashing them, although that’s likely dependent on the shipping service.

[coral valley]

It also needs a 10tb M.2 preloaded with 100,000 games

[languid vapor]

Man, I feel bad for whoever designed that Flip 2 top design because it has been universally hated on. Hope that person deletes reddit, discord, and whatever youtube subs.

[versed vigil]

Don’t forget that every time they try bringing up anything about them not being “true proud Americans”, they’re also being outright hypocritical since literally every American that isn’t outright a Native either has a legal or illegal immigrant as their earliest “American” ancestor.

[south mantle]

Why are we talking politics

[versed vigil]

Ah, wait I just realized how old this was, sorry for bringing this topic back up.

[floral pebble]

I feel bad for them too, not because of people complaining though

Imagine thinking that looks good

[versed vigil]

Because I just went into this channel and it was the first thing I saw.

[lunar sand]

Alright the age old question, flip 2 or rg35xxsp

[languid vapor]

Oh, I don't think it looks good. I just feel bad for whoever that is though. 😬

Retroid is going to have to remove it lol.

[coral valley]

Hydrogen bomb vs crying baby

[gentle badge]

neither, 34xx supremacy

you're just gonna play GBA either way

just get the GBA

[rose swift]

dont like the shape. would've been more interested if it was shaped more like magicx mini m/zero28

or rpmini

[coral valley]

Well it is a gba clone

[wintry oxide]

Screen doesn't seem too tiny? RG Arc made me realize how much better a 4 inch screen is than the 3.5" in the 353 series... so I definitely have a mental block to going to something less than 3.5"... and watching all the struggles Loki has had with mainline on h700 has been painful... 34xx does have some fun colors though, so I had considered it for my kids 😅

[gentle badge]

for GBA?

3.4" is plenty for GBA games imo

[wintry oxide]

Just in general

[gentle badge]

I'm probably the wrong one to ask, I am loving playing 8 bit systems (pc engine and NES) on my 28xx

when I want a big screen I use my 13" ipad with crt shaders

[wintry oxide]

Yeah, guess you may not need as much the more you go back

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/community-small-gif-5412400

[wintry oxide]

I'm just hoping the Flip 2 does a fair job of making 5.5" pocketable

[strange ivy]

3.4" ain't enough for these aging eyes

[gentle badge]

THE GBA IS 2.9"

get lasik

[strange ivy]

And I no longer play GBA on my GBA

[wintry oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-laser-eyes-angry-cat-cyclops-nara-gif-26030753

[strange ivy]

Cheaper to buy a console with a larger screen

[sour ore]

We still don't have any full flegded reviews, right?

[strange ivy]

Nope. Production units aren't in the hands of reviewers yet.

Only samples

[sour ore]

Okay, thanks

[night vessel]

Adin did

[sour ore]

Is there usually much difference between samples and retail units?

[strange ivy]

Irrelevant. Ain't a production unit

[night vessel]

just saying it says review so he did

[strange ivy]

Sometimes no, sometimes yes.

So personally, I don't consider impressions/reviews of samples that relevant.

[sour ore]

I was also kinda interested in the rg557 but the discord channel did a fantastic job on killing any excitement lol

[south mantle]

Electronics have been removed from tariffs on China

I wonder if this will affect emulation handhelds

[fossil timber]

What’s wrong with it according to the channel?

[south mantle]

Idk if that’s been brought up here

[sour ore]

Not being a snapdragon being a sin against humanity or something along those lines

(I'm only half joking hahah)

[fossil timber]

Ahh, sounds about right

[strange ivy]

Not all electronics. Just some.

[copper burrow]

A few folks being whiny fuckwits

[south mantle]

Yea I know

Like phones, laptops, and monitors

[sour ore]

Tanning machines are exempt of tariffs i bet

[south mantle]

I mean where are basically phones

[fossil timber]

Same people who believe that any non Hal stick is instant garbage but you can’t make a bad Hal stick even if you try

[strange ivy]

Someone with more time will hopefully go through it to see if handhelds are covered in the exemptions

[south mantle]

I’m trying rn

[wintry oxide]

Or someone with ChatGPT 🤪

[sacred kindle]

ruh roh
https://bsky.app/profile/zhugeex.com/post/3lmmtbtj6zc2j

Daniel Ahmad (@zhugeex.com)

Tim Cook is no longer Tim Cooked.

Trump folds again by excluding smartphones, PC monitors, SSDs, processors and other computer related parts.

However, there is NO exception for video game consoles.

Video game consoles are still subject to the tariffs.

FinTwitter (@fintwitter.bsky.social)
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Bluesky · Apr 12, 2025, 3:17 PM

[sour ore]

I mean, the 557 seemed like a nice thing, but by the way some talk about the dimensity chips it feels like this is userbencmark's community talking about amd

[coral valley]

We are so back this time fr

Loophole time

[sacred kindle]

do chinese handheld fall under video game consoles umbrella?

[versed vigil]

Eh, it makes a bigger deal than people think since most of these emulators are usually optimized for Snapdragon, although I would also agree it’s not “sin against humanity” levels of bad.

[south mantle]

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDHSCBP/bulletins/3db9e55

[strange ivy]

Just put a faux microSIM card tray. It's a phone shaped like a handheld!

[versed vigil]

Like as an example, this is the difference between playing Cyber Sleuth for Vita on Snapdragon vs on the D1100 (or just on chipsets with Mali in general, since it could easily be Mali’s stock drivers causing issues like usual).

[sour ore]

Hmmm

Well that's disappointing i guess

Still, i will have an eye on it, they could have improved or something.

It's funny though how much people love the 556 in videos and such but then there's this

[dusky ferry]

More mature/actively developed emulators have less issue, the developers will just workaround issue they found, just like what they do for snapdragon/adreno when problems are found.

Doesn't affect all games as well (or to the same degree) even for newer ones

[sour ore]

I imagine is a nuanced thing, but as an outsider seeing such negativity right out of the gate... it's like it's simply broken

Bah, whatever

[copper burrow]

Now people have tasted dedicated snapdragon handhelds they have a rabid hard on for everything else in the market, they must have snapdragon 😄

[sour ore]

But then they complain it's not the odin 2

And after that the odin 2 is not like whatever they feel at that moment

It's a bit draining I must confess hahaha

[fossil timber]

Sounds like the iPhone effect, “my mom gave me her hand me down iPhone 3 back in the day and that thing was awesome! Listened to so much black eyed peas music on it. Anyway anything that isn’t an iPhone is hot garbage!”

I say as an iPhone user

[sour ore]

It could be...

[fossil timber]

Does seem like the first thing you find or are given that works best is what you stick with later on in life

[coral valley]

Well imagine if you tried to listen to music on an android and instead it was extremely low quality and had audio glitches

[fossil timber]

Whether it be a car or phone brand or handheld processor we all like to pretend we are in the correct group and make odd distinctions

[fossil timber]

Hey! That was one of my problems when I used android. Everyone kept saying I shouldn’t buy fifty dollar phones and be surprised when they were garbage

[errant pine]

The RPFlip2 & I wish you a nice weekend! 😎🍺🎮

[sour ore]

are you enjoy it?

[coral valley]

Well that'd be a valid reason then, I don't think the d8300 is a bad chip per se, but a snapdragon chip comparable in power is about as close to as objectively better as you can get for emulation

[rigid thicket]

Looks a lot better in this lighting, but boy do I wish the speakers didn't have the copper coloured covering on them, ahaha.

[errant pine]

It doesn't bother me that much. 😉

[sour ore]

I don't find it bad looking even with the speakers

Now that I see it, you can look at the hinge too

[coral valley]

That does look very nice

[rigid thicket]

I'm sure you don't even see them when actually using it, ahaha.

[errant pine]

True 😇

[rigid thicket]

Looks like main hinge on the right and support on the left?
And the main hinge is super long to spread pressure which is good.

[sour ore]

I mean, if you look anywhere else while playing i don't know what to say hahah

[fast sonnet]

soon enough I'll get my shipping notification

[sour ore]

It does look long enough. Translucent models always are interesting to spot these things

[floral pebble]

Kinda odd that the left side is so short though, weight savings I guess

[sour ore]

Just like you can see what the center has, and people wondering why that space was "unused"

[floral pebble]

Do you think left handed people will break their flip easier?

[sour ore]

Not necessarily. I always open my ds systems by pulling from the center, other people might do the same

Depends on habits I'd say

[jolly kayak]

Like a chest or book

[random tulip]

I always open from the center. That's cause there's usually a little indent to help open it

[sour ore]

Ah, right, there's one on the flip 2

[random tulip]

Might just be mental at that point for me. I'm like, there's a cutout. I'm opening there

[sour ore]

It makes sense

I just realized he just came to brag and ran away.

😩

[tacit latch]

@sweet rune I'm catching up on the RH podcast and I'm casually hearing that you've been to Shenzhen and actively worked with the Retroid guys, can you share more of that story? I think peps here would appreciate hearing about that

[tranquil elbow]

be honest did you find that vase to color match the flip or was it a happy accident

[errant pine]

I swear to God man, that plant pot was on every table in that restaurant, the exact color of my ice blue (teal) Flip2... What are the chances? 😅

[tranquil elbow]

lmao I believe you

very nice picture!

the ice blue does look lovely in that lighting

[tacit latch]

Soo in other news, @blazing burrow described the face buttons as quieter than the RP5 and not clacky, but then @stiff depot went on to describe them as clacky and pretty much the same as the RP5, what do we believe 😅

[sour ore]

in the heart of the cards

...nah, it's obvious each person will see things differently

[stray dagger]

it's simple, believe the guy with the less favorable opinion

also don't trust Stubbs

[severe ridge]

theres some variation with the membranes
my rp5 is pretty loud but my rpmini is a bunch quieter than most peoples

[blazing burrow]

They are quieter because they have shorter travel, but they are the same buttons.

Where as RP5 has further to go to bottom out, so they will be louder as you push them

Let's wait for his full review, im working on mine as well

I thought ergo was great during my short time in testing before filming but after different scenarios I realize its good sitting at the desk but not good in bed, etc. We find new things as we go.

[fossil owl]

How about the middle ground, how is it on the couch or a recliner?

[noble canyon]

Easier to press too right?

I find rp5 sometimes a little hard to press for the buttons for fighting games

Not too bad but the easier the press the better

[tranquil elbow]

the real question, how is it when you're sitting on it

cause it seemed like a big problem yesterday

[blazing burrow]

Yes that is right

Summary of thoughts since my first look:

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxqPAhDpZnczlu7deMIwWdTYqhuOjdCfAc?si=Yqo8D-Q0urBEKMqE

[blazing burrow]

Video of that experience I posted in here the other day

[noble canyon]

Thankfully I find my 3ds and 35xx sp to be pretty comfortable in bed

And I like playing on my side too

Hope it’s a similar experience just with good stick play cuz I don’t dpad a lot

[tranquil elbow]

Ive no idea how people play lying down

I usually play in bed but with my back against the frame so Im like half sitting

[plush silo]

Yeah, I usually have to be sitting up a bit in bed to be able to use my phone comfortably, let alone my handhelds

[blazing burrow]

This would be like couch play, feels pretty good.

[tranquil elbow]

sounds good! thanks!

[floral pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/rickandmorty-jerry-rick-morty-eating-gif-9818550

Is it comfortable if you lay on your belly like this?

[white prism]

No never

[rigid thicket]

It's definitely easier with verticals/clamshells. You have to position horizontals weirdly lying on your side to get a good viewing angle.

And your hands are annoyingly spread apart.

It's hard to explain, but I'm sure people who've tried with both know what I mean.

[tranquil elbow]

yeah, I can watch stuff on my phone lying down maybe but holding a controller while lying down feels miserable to me

[noble canyon]

@blazing burrow how much hotter would you say the device gets compared to the 5?

I normally play a lot of ps2/gc upscaled to 3x with no fan standard and had no heat issues if it’s not high end ps2

I only needed fan for high end switch

[random tulip]

Feel like small kids are the only people I've seen pull this off comfortably

[south mantle]

Even as a kid, it messed with my shoulders after a while

And I was pretty active in the woods and creeks

[coral valley]

That's almost exclusively how I play, either laying on my stomach or sitting down

I don't understand how people play lying on their back tbh

[blazing burrow]

Same about, haven't noticed much heat where im gripping. A little on the back right, and direct in the middle of the front.

[tacit latch]

hey, thanks for sharing, this is a great summary and answers some important questions

it's a pity that this layout is a compromise for dpad centric games that make use of the triggers

I suspected this would be the case coming from the GPD XD

I guess when it comes to clamshells it's one thing or the other, can't have both

[opaque harbor]

Well this layout kind of originates from the Wii u

[blazing burrow]

Glad to help! Yeah for my hands it's a bit of a reach to comfortably use dpad + shoulders for too long. Its not un-usable by any means, just compared to other clams that have dpad further up. YMMV of course.

[quick blaze]

Has anyone seen a side by side picture of win mini 2024 and RP flip 2?

[opaque harbor]

I have not myself

Would be somewhat interesting

[strange glen]

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience. The biggest news is that the hinge is solid. Adin also did 5000+ opening and closing without seeing issues. The hinge was my biggest concern so it’s really great to see two independent reviewers confirming good longevity of the hinge. I expected that dpad centric gaming won’t be the best on flip 2 so I am not disappointed that it’s not super comfortable. I have other handhelds for those systems so I am fine with that.

[blazing burrow]

For sure! Yeah hinge is giving me zero anxiety, unlike this miyoo flip v2 snes unit that just showed up 😂

[stiff depot]

They're definitely what I would categorize as "clacky", my wife actually doesn't want to play on it as a result (even though she played on the RP Flip 1 for like a year, she's very inconsistent 😄 ). They sound about the same volume as the RP5 to me. Maybe @blazing burrow' big ole thumbs help dampen the sound? 👀 🙈

[tacit latch]

ah, right, I always forget than Stubbs hands are absolutely massive

[blazing burrow]

Haha fair point! BUT, they are shorter travel and don't stick out as high as the RP5, so at least how I play, they are quieter to me. I'm using thumbs to test, and then also fingers right now to test just to make sure i'm not crazy.

If I slam on them with one finger they can get pretty clackity, i'll record some examples for my review. #VolumeGate is ON 😂

[rigid thicket]

Go full finger drum kit on them

[wintry oxide]

Does that mean we're past flexgate? Or do we need videos of all the YouTubers finger-pressing a scale to measure their strength followed by more plastic presses? 🤔

[tacit latch]

we are definitely not past flex gate lol

that probably will only get resolved once people start getting real production units and comment on them

I do wonder if the review units have differences between them, since they are preproduction and all that

[blazing burrow]

Yeah people will need to test for themselves on some of this stuff, we can all show our experience but we need things to actually break and cause true issues in real world

I do not think they would have much time to make any hardware changes between these units and what you all will be getting for batch 1

The only difference I could see is software changes

The hardware is likely the same as batch 1 shipments

But nearly every time you see early reviews from any of us, from any brand, they would usually be considered pre-production

Retroid, Anbernic, AYN, etc

PowKiddy might be an exception

[wintry oxide]

As in all of Powkiddy's units are pre-production and they'll make a mature unit someday? 😜

[blazing burrow]

I mean they do make revisions and changes, but months later

[versed vigil]

Hmm, so maybe @mystic void’s older video is applying in a more accidental manner for the Flip 2? Where it’s more-so caused by people being used to Anbernic’s firmer buttons that only felt softer due to being membranes?

[blazing burrow]

They revised the X18S like 3 times, and X55 a few times

[blazing burrow]

😂

[severe ridge]

i made that same video lol

[versed vigil]

Referencing Russ’s video on the RG35XX SP’s buttons and the test he did with that scale for the last sentence.

[wintry oxide]

Yeah, some of us were trying to keep track of the X55 revisions and there may be at least 4 or 5 or more in the wild now 🤪

[floral pebble]

I hate how loud the xbox controller is

[blazing burrow]

I do not play like the RP Mini example, but sounds like I should record that sound

[severe ridge]

ive mentioned before it doesnt help to clack the buttons on an echoey wooden table

it actually makes it louder

[blazing burrow]

couch clack test

there is my aggressive attempt to mimic the super bottle vid

[vital belfry]

Comparing handhelds to full size controller is so weird to me.

Not only are they further away from your your ear, your are also more likely to use them with headsets or full size speakers

[versed vigil]

I’m mainly wondering since in Russ’s video with the SP, it turned out that the RG35XX buttons with membranes actually were technically even “harder” in a literal sense to press than most other buttons in having more resistance, but due to being membrane vs tactile, they ended up feeling softer to the user.

In which case, if you’re used to something like that, you’re likely gonna actually press harder than you need to for softer membrane buttons.

[wintry oxide]

We need you to clack the buttons on various surfaces for comparison 🤔

[severe ridge]

now test the xbox vs a xxSP 😄 which everyone comaplined was loud

[teal bolt]

Is this the best pocketable handheld for fps games

Need to know.

[floral pebble]

Maybe I'm weird but I play while watching TV, no volume normally

[blazing burrow]

Too soon to tell to say "BEST" but best clamshell that is pocketable for FPS games? Yes 😆

[teal bolt]

Everyone's sleeping on Pojav Launcher.

[blazing burrow]

*overall

[severe ridge]

i have used it, but minecraft in general just EATS battery

[teal bolt]

It's great on the Mini, but screen being so small is sorta weak.

And also I need grips for it.

[teal bolt]

I wonder if it has to do with what you're trying to render? It's not a problem for me, but I play 1.7.10 without smooth lighting on fast graphics and a render distance of 10.

[severe ridge]

i was playing modern versions lol

[gentle badge]

you know what's tough? trying to find an actual gamepad as quiet as my handhelds

so far best I've found is the OG 8bitdo lite, which has a very soft clickyness like a gba sp

[severe ridge]

ps4 is pretty quiet

[gentle badge]

but the lite is both not very ergo and a bit strange

but like the 8bitdo sn30 pro is pretty clacky

the m30 isn't bad

[teal bolt]

i am so goddamn tired of 8bitdo peddling mushy snes dpads

[tacit latch]

that sounds clacky but less loud than the RP5 to me

[wintry oxide]

You want clacky, I let my wife get me one of these for my birthday and that thumb thing is more like a d-pad stabbed with a stick, but I think I like it 😎

Haven't used it much yet, but thought it might be fun for PC/dos games that need more buttons

[opaque harbor]

What do you mean? The one I have is not mushy at all

[teal bolt]

Most of them are.

[opaque harbor]

What about the 8bitdo lite?

[naive hollow]

I'm sick and tired of retroid peddling vita dpads

[teal bolt]

Well, that's actually good though.

[naive hollow]

snes dpads are where it's good

[hallow pulsar]

DS Phat dpads are where is good

I’m kidding

[idle shuttle]

I own this exact controller and love it, use it for retroarch on my ipad pro. I find the ergo is surprisingly decent and love having two sets of buttons and dpads, it's great for shortcuts.

Dpads are nice as well

[fathom geyser]

Sorry if somebody’s asked already, how loud is the fan for you? Somebody mentioned it seemed kinda loud on quiet mode

[rigid thicket]

I think the only sound footage I saw was with the mic pressed right up against the fan grill.

Basically worthless as a test since the fan is on the backside facing away from you, your ears are much further away, and you presumably have game sound playing towards you, ahaha.

Would definitely be nice to have a more realistic sample.

[blazing burrow]

I'll try to capture a better representation in my review, I mainly showed off the Highest setting in my First Look, and I don't think it was easy to hear on the livetream unboxing. As an aside, for these tests, ideally the mic should be at least 6" away pointed at the top vent where the air comes out, instead of the intake area.

But on quiet I don't notice the fan while playing.

[versed vigil]

Well now, it seems you and mbv1988 are at an impasse…

Let’s drag everyone else into it.

Pick a side everyone.

[remote basin]

both are fine

[gentle badge]

the lite 1 is clicky

not a mushy snes style

[gentle badge]

no sega option 😦

[teal bolt]

I'm fine with 8bitdo having some SNES dpads here and there.

[remote basin]

actually I changed my mind from idc to SNES, because the glossy plastic D-Pad annoys me since my thumb can't get good traction on the thing

[teal bolt]

But good ergonomic controllers with clicky dpads seem to be few and far between.

[remote basin]

it's my least favourite thing about the steam deck, the glossy D-Pad

I wish it was matt finished like a SNES D-Pad

[teal bolt]

Deck dpad is nigh unusuable IMO.

[remote basin]

it'd be fine if it just had a different texture, and I never see anyone ever mention it so I feel like I'm the crazy one lol

[tacit latch]

SNES all day every day, I don't get the obsession with the Vita dpads, sure they are precise, but nobody grew up playing games with those

[versed vigil]

We’re only doing the 2 options for now.

If I had my way, I’d be including the Neo Geo Thumbstick.

[rapid echo]

Genesis

[versed vigil]

Either way, I refuse to ever consider rubber membranes as better than tactile, whether it be a clicky d-pad or a digital stick.

[naive hollow]

I mean it’s all subjective

Cuz like the vita dpad is objectively fine

Just not my cuppa

[versed vigil]

Yeah no, I just did it because I thought it would be funny.

I’m fine with membrane, even if I do prefer tactile switches in general for this stuff.

But at the same time you can’t exactly do pressure-sensitive buttons with tactile switches (not without literally making them analog and ditching the click), so I’ll definitely be more than fine with giving membranes that praise.

[gentle badge]

I have the m30 and neogeo cd pads both in front of me right now (both 8bitdo) and I definitely prefer the m30

[versed vigil]

Alright, looks like we’ve got round 2 everyone.

(/s, in all seriousness we’ve all got preferences for this stuff).

[gentle badge]

I don't DISLIKE the 8bitdo CD pad, especially the face buttons but the clicky stick is not quite as peak as the m30 dpad for me

[versed vigil]

Although I will say the NeoGeo CD Pad by 8bitdo is actually an unfair comparison since it’s unironically a lot worse than the actual thumbstick in the original controller. To the point that some people are literally making mods to replace it with a better design.

[gentle badge]

I've seen a lot of people complain about it and compare to the SNK neogeo pad made for the ps2, but that one (as good as it might be in a vacuum) is nothing like the OG

[versed vigil]

Like, if I had to make a comparison, it’s essentially like taking the Xbox 360 D-Pad and calling that a Sega Genesis D-Pad.

[gentle badge]

most reviewers I've seen that are happy with it are comparing against an actual neogeoCD pad and most reviewers I've seen complaining about the long throw etc are comparing against the PS2 one

https://www.patreon.com/posts/8bitdo-neogeo-88004921

I think the reality is that the ps2 one is a better controller for fighting games by a mile but that isn't what 8bitdo was cloning

[versed vigil]

Fair enough on the “what they’re specifically cloning” bit since I’ll admit it’s been a while since I used specifically the CD controller, but even SNK themselves have actually done thumbstick revisions that were better, and that nowadays the thumbsticks for a lot of the original controllers are actually a decent bit worn down on top of the floaty.

But, like I said earlier about mods, they actually have made some that make it feel more like SNK’s later thumbsticks, this is one that I’ve seen recommended more commonly than others.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6193862/files

[quiet reef]

Vita gang

[random tulip]

Genesis still one of my favs. Cube/CubeXX

[gentle badge]

if I had a resin printer I'd give that a shot

[distant drum]

Who will be the first to get a shipping notification?

Drop it in the chat when you do so we can all live vicariously through you.

[steady osprey]

It would be tomorrow at the earliest I reckon

[mystic void]

Honestly this video applies to so many nit picks lol

[mystic void]

Snes, easily

[mystic void]

Also solid

[distant drum]

The absolute best dpad that no one knows about is the one on the gb micro.

[mystic void]

Personally, if you like precise, it's GBA sp for me

But you have to like that style. For me though it's soooooooooooo good for precision

A good modern version of the GBA sp is the Xbox series dpad, which I find crazy underrated

[copper sequoia]

https://youtu.be/s0pyNOaLI1c

This looks good!!

Would be fun to play on the flip

[south mantle]

I’m so ready to play MK Wii on my Flip 2

Was doing it this weekend with my 360 Hyperkin replica controller on my desktop

[jolly kayak]

When it's 04/13 but no tracking number 🤨🤨🤨

[severe ridge]

your probly last

[steady osprey]

Shipping notices are starting!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[copper sequoia]

Insert it’s happening gif

[steady osprey]

And we have confirmation that people who ordered the bundles are getting shipping notifications for Flip 2 separately

Classic will ship in a few days separately

[prime bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

[wintry oxide]

What color is shipping first? What colors have gotten notices?

[steady osprey]

Most people I've seen have said GC

(5 or so)

[wintry oxide]

Sweet, I ordered GC, but it took me about 9 minutes to order, so not sure how many people beat me 😅

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-9037939284932650429

[steady osprey]

I thought I was 4 minutes but I was actually 34 minutes so I'll hopefully wake up to a tracking number

[wintry oxide]

Or maybe I'm 39 minutes, not sure, but waking up to a tracking number sounds nice!

[copper burrow]

so it begins

[turbid coral]

Great to hear pre-orders are getting shipped now. I only got my pre order in a few days ago (decided to wait for first impressions/reviews just to be safe) so I might be waiting a bit

Also looks like screen protetors are now avalible at least on aliexpress

[sour ore]

What, already?

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005008809340690.html

"It's not tempered glass, pls note" while having a package saying glass, tempered

Holy moly, i forgot how awful, fake and simply dishonest chinese vendor's pictures can be

[stray dagger]

I already have tempered glass protectors for the Switch 2 laying around....

[sour ore]

But that's the next Nintendo console...

Pretty different ballpark

[jolly kayak]

If you want a cleaner link, often times everything up to the very first question mark can be deleted

[sour ore]

Oh, good to know, thank you!

[turbid coral]

Seems like it's only plastic film ones for now. Better than nothing. I wonder if the clearance is a bit too slim to allow for a tempered glass one, although the design does look similar to the 2DS XL and that allows a tempered glass protector fine.

[turbid coral]

What's even better is that the listing title doesn't even reference "tempered glass" on it. I'd imagine they'd get more results if they did, so they're lying without getting any benefit from it

[sour ore]

Yup...

I always roll my eyes with how far they try to lie sometimes

Buuut at the same time i kinda enjoy how fake the pictures of protectors are

Knives? Hammers? Freaking Bullets? My god

[turbid coral]

You forgot to mention how they're all explosion proof

[tacit latch]

🫡

let's see what I get

[plush silo]

Fellow Ice Blue enjoyer, noice 🧊

[random tulip]

Yeah. Hopefully ordering late mine isn't 2 weeks away

[naive hollow]

https://youtu.be/6LIZWnD-62Q?si=DXQi8Ud9ozCpStDm

More video to validate your purchase

[random tulip]

Regardless of its issues or no issues I'm gonna make do

Don't have the energy level for this hobby to change from trying new stuff monthly to figuring out tarrifs monthly 😆

[rigid thicket]

Starting with "There are a lot of nitpicks" either means there's a lot to be annoyed about or that it's great and that makes the small annoyances more noticeable. 😂

[random tulip]

Can also just imply that people like to find stuff to complain about

Especially off the tail of some bad Retroid PR

[naive hollow]

Nitpicks seems like more subjective issues

[rigid thicket]

That's just what nitpicks are, ahaha.
Still watching, but I took it as a positive sentiment if the concerns are nitpicks.

[random tulip]

Yeah. Basically stuff I wouldn't have probably even noticed if there wasn't so much conversation over it

[mystic void]

I mean he has said before he nitpicks/has nitpicks that are relatively minor with other devices. It isn't unique to this video.

[sour ore]

hot dang 45 minutes

let's see how it fares

[random tulip]

I'll save you the time. It's hot garbage and you should send it to me at zero cost

[sour ore]

( X ) Doubt 🤔

[random tulip]

Well I tried

[sour ore]

that you did

At least the hinge seems solid, all tests by people did not find issues

[fossil timber]

Glad to see these are shipping. Hopefully I get notified in the next few days that my classic/flip budle ships. Now we get to see just how chaotic shipping is with the cheeto in chief changing things on the daily with no pushback from the government.

[craggy kestrel]

that's why you gotta get a snack and a drink

[sour ore]

it was the one thing people feared

yeah i'm going to grab something

[rigid thicket]

At the controls section and my takeaway is everything should be Steam Deck style with all controls on the same plane, ahaha.

[sour ore]

that would require a lot of moving around the internal parts

like, I get you, but I don't think it's a simple change

[rigid thicket]

Sorta yes/no, there's already buttons on the same plane.

[random tulip]

To be fair. I totally agree with that statement. Would make it wider maybe, but I'd take it

[rigid thicket]

Like, move the start/select/home/back buttons elsewhere and put dpad/abxy there.

[random tulip]

Honestly on a clam you should be a way to do it tho. Usually you're restricted by the screen

Deck is one of the best layouts out there imo. If you do a lot of dpad/stick crossplay

[rigid thicket]

The lid design is one of his nitpicks.
One of us, one of us.

[sour ore]

I haven't tried a steamdeck that much, but I don't know how I'd feel about having two inputs side to side

having them on a diagonal like most controllers feels more natural to em

[rigid thicket]

It's the most confortable layout side by side.

[random tulip]

Controllers also give you big ass nubs to hold onto

[rigid thicket]

It eliminates the reach to shoulders.

[random tulip]

Yeah. Whether you dpad or stick shoulders are in same place

On my portal I actually shift my left hand down to like grab the corner for dpad. Then have to reach more for L1

[rigid thicket]

Moving your thumb left/right is easier too rather than rotating your thumb for offset layout.

Like, it's very minor, but depending on game and play session length it becomes noticeable.

[sour ore]

I don't know... I don't have a steamdeck to compare right now

maybe it's time to stop putting triggers on the top of these consoles and try do something akin to those GB styles ones with the triggers lol

[random tulip]

Yeah. Our Lord and Savior Gabe did a pretty good job

Like I think that's the coolest thing about it. You pick it up and you're like, ok, this all makes sense 😆

Hoping SD2 isn't too many decades from now

[rigid thicket]

Everyone was so confused when they revealed images/video.
And then you pick it up and it's like...oh, everything makes sense.

[random tulip]

Yeah. Valve does a good job of not working within a vacuum

[copper burrow]

time for my snack

[random tulip]

Honestly shocked more makers haven't outright copied the layout yet. But it does make everything wider. Well except for clams. Clams would be a good place to do it

[sour ore]

the part with comparisons with the rp5 on controls, it really feels like the sticks being right below look pretty uncomfortable

[rigid thicket]

Clams should definitely default to that layout with maybe a touchpad on the bottom to fill out space if desired.

[random tulip]

Would be awesome. Especially for things that could run a Linux desktop. Little less concerned for touchpads if touchscreen

[rigid thicket]

Any controls that are on the very bottom of a handheld/controller are miserable to use.

[sour ore]

that's if they have they actually have free space to use, like the centre of the flip 2 already has stuff in it

[random tulip]

Yeah. But you could move it around

[sour ore]

i wasn't talking about the buttons

[random tulip]

They probably copy and pasted a fair amount of the RP5 PCB layout

Which I mean was a banger for them. So I can't blame them

[sour ore]

that I honestly don't know

oh hey he shows godhand on ps2

[rigid thicket]

If anything, the internal layout of the Flip 2 is a bit confusing.
The RP5 runs the same hardware in a thinner device with a screen on top of most of the internals.

[sour ore]

what a whacky fun (frustrating) game

[rigid thicket]

There was definitely a better way to lay out the Flip 2 internals.

[random tulip]

Usually your playing with the same central board and just moving components around. Moving that central board somewhere else for more comfortable controls would probably require more work

[rigid thicket]

Aw yeah, Bow and Arrow Boy.

[random tulip]

I think a fair amount of the bottom is empty tho, if the anti-flexers are to be trusted

Honestly I'm happy there's a little more thickness. If anything the thinness of the RP5 meant the ergo grips were kind of pointless

[rigid thicket]

I think the thickness is a net positive myself for comfort, but the Flip 3 better have a Steam Deck layout

[random tulip]

Yeah. Or we burn Retroid down

[jolly kayak]

Cant wait for lunch time to watch

[rigid thicket]

I'd be pretty stoked if the Steam Deck 2 was a clamshell.

[sour ore]

thinking about it, I don't find the circle pad and dpad annoying to move between on my n2dsxl, but it looks different enough to the rp5, for starters the n2ds stick is much less tall so swapping is simpler

[rigid thicket]

Would mitigate the super wideness that the Steam Deck layout causes.

[sour ore]

yeah, the size of the deck is one of the aspects doesn't really talk to me

[jolly kayak]

Clamshell is subjective, horizontal sells better and has less hinge RMAs. I bet all my handhelds they'll never do it

[sour ore]

I don't see them doing it either

[random tulip]

Yeah. It's def a coucher. I mean best coucher out there

A handheld from someone else that flips and runs steam OS might be endgame for me tho

[jolly kayak]

GPD Win Mini

Bazzite

[rigid thicket]

Honestly, if they just use laptop style hinges I don't think it'd be an issue.

[jolly kayak]

It'll get thick in clamshell form too

And heating issues

[random tulip]

I've been tempted. Bazzite is pretty awesome. I just feel so at home on steam tho. The configuration layouts and everything

[rigid thicket]

SD is already a chunky boi.
Actually, how thick is it compared to the Win Mini?

[jolly kayak]

Bazzite is like a clone xD

[random tulip]

A lot of steam deck chunky is the grips. Which I like. No touchy

[sour ore]

looking at the DS gameplay on the flip... I have to admit, maybe it's better on a "candybar" design, where you could maybe reach the touchscreen for specific inputs

[rigid thicket]

The Wini Mini is half the thickness of the Steam Deck 😂

[random tulip]

Yeah. But it's kinda like going from stock android to Motorola skin. Like 95% of it is identical. But they move that one setting and you're like, mother fuckers!

[jolly kayak]

Win Mini is less comfy to hold too

[rigid thicket]

Just double the thickness with a grip and we're golden.

[random tulip]

Yeah. Kinda funny that single screen clams are not the best for DS gaming.

[sour ore]

it is

[rigid thicket]

Ultimately, if they did go with a clamshell design I'm sure they'd make it work.
And if they couldn't they wouldn't go clamshell, ahaha.

[rigid thicket]

At least not for anything that requires touchscreen in a meaningful manner.

[random tulip]

Right now, because I let my duo go, my best DS is probably my portal, just cause of screen realestate

[rigid thicket]

Ah, why'd you give up the Duo?

[random tulip]

It just wasn't as portable with telescope as I'd have liked

[rigid thicket]

Ah, fair.

I only use it at home yeah.

[random tulip]

Like it was doable. But just felt like a lot of setup, breakdown. Def still the best DS experience right now

[rigid thicket]

Telescopic is just never the portable option I find.

Just the act of setting it up removes the desire to pull it out.

[random tulip]

Haha. True. Some people are totally happy with telescope and phone. I could just never do it on the regular. But yeah. Setting it up next to the couch for couch play isn't a bad idea. I just have to many couch play devices

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, portable to me means more EDC rather than long trips. If I can't easily pull it out for something quick it doesn't work for me.

RG353M with a flip cover has been my go to.

Hoping the Flip 2 can replace that.

[random tulip]

Yeah hoping between the flip and classic I can settle on a great EDCer

[sour ore]

EDC?

[rigid thicket]

Every Day Carry

[sour ore]

oh

[random tulip]

Yeah. It's a heavily US obsession. Birthed from our love of carrying guns everywhere I think

[sour ore]

I mean, as a kid I did bring my gbc/gba everywhere and such

[rigid thicket]

I'm Canadian though 🥲

Same

[sour ore]

nowadays I'd only take a console out if I know I'll have some time to play it

[rigid thicket]

GBA then DS then 3DS

[random tulip]

Now there's a whole market of pouches, doodads, tools, soldering irons, etc.

[rigid thicket]

Also in my pocket.

[sour ore]

like to a friends house during downtime, or I go to a quite place

[random tulip]

We've been known to infect others with our desire to buy more crap

[sour ore]

but for everyday going to work and such? yeah no, I rather use my phone and read stuff

[random tulip]

Yeah. See. I always have my miyoo mini on me. Stuck waiting for an appointment, gaming. Stuck waiting for a food order, gaming. I won't tell you what "other people" do on the toilet... But it's probably gaming

[sour ore]

but I've always liked portable consoles because things like playing on bed or when in someone else's house, or in the couch while others watch tv, or... just he idea of being able to play games anywhere I'm able to, the very idea of having games I can access without anything beyond the device itself, no plugs, no displays and such is great

[random tulip]

Yeah. Makes sense. There's like 4 categories. Couch, couch+ (taking it around the house), EDC, and EDC+ (can fit in speedo if needed, take always in case of emergency)

[jolly kayak]

Nothing on the don't like list bothers me. Let's goooo

[sour ore]

I'd put something between couch+ and edc myself, which is where I'd be. Taking them out to some places I know I'll have the time to play and can transport them with relative care

regardless, each person has their own way

the loud thing i guess it depends on what you play right? like, 8-16 bit games wouldn't cause the fan to spin much, if at all right?

I will wait to see how the 557 ends up and will make my choice...

[copper burrow]

fun video

[jolly kayak]

I didn't mind the SP at all, can't be louder than that

[rigid thicket]

Wasn't even about the fan. It was more the buttons, ahaha.
But during his fan test when he swapped to low you couldn't even hear it.

[sour ore]

ah right

the clicky button stuff

sorry

you know, i pretty much always play with earphones so the sound controllers make is not something I tend to pay attention unless it's extreme

like, I can notice it when trying them at first of course

[fathom geyser]

I am a lil’ more concerned for the fan than the buttons. Somebody mentioned it seemed loud on quiet mode on theirs, idk if it was their unit specifically or if it’s just gonna sound loud for all units, or of it’ll need an update

[rigid thicket]

Need more real world opinions basically.

I feel like in real world situations it shoooould be fine?

But we'll find out soon enough.

[fathom geyser]

I’d rather hear some voluntary clacks from the buttons than:
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[rigid thicket]

I'm curious if there's even a worthwhile performance gain from using performance mode.

[fathom geyser]

Using a fan I feel like definitely has to expand the lifespan of the battery. I feel like one of the reason people get spicy pillows is from pushing their device to crazy limits while charging their device and letting it heat up

[random tulip]

I almost always set stuff to low and rely on fan curves

[rapid echo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRCepSELbk

[random tulip]

Even on my pocket DMG. I get equivalent performance just letting the curve do its thing. That said it's had multiple updates to get that curve right. Who knows what the flip 2s curve is

Def loading rocknix

[rigid thicket]

One of the main reasons to go for the SD865 version.

[gentle badge]

ugh if I have to deal with fan noise I expect to be getting the capabilities of a full PC out of it.

I don't have to deal with that on my RP5

hopefully they can fix the curve or something

[distant drum]

No dice for me. Happy these things are getting out the door though!

[distant drum]

Nice to see the cons list consists of items that you have to stretch to come up with.

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, like here you can't hear any fan noise during any gameplay clips.

[strange glen]

It makes me wonder what people think of the original hardware like n3dsxl and switch now if they go for reviews like the retro handhelds. I feel we are so spoiled and always nitpicking

I am sure most Nintendo hardware will get poor reviews in terms of ergonomics

And screen

Buttons are pretty loud as well.

[sour ore]

...i have to agree that after spending some time reading people, some seem really, really demanding

[strange glen]

Maybe people need reasons to get the next device

The next is better

[sour ore]

like sure, it happens on any community, pc gaming, home consoles, etc

but it seems like there's people expecting build quality of high end phones with performance of four digit computers for a fraction of the price of those

I don't know if I am missing something, because seeing these small devices that let you play decades of games and you can take with you feels like an unreachable dream looking back 20 years ago with the gba

like sure, some devices won't be as well designed as others, but it seems to go beyond that

[rapid echo]

Flip 3 when?

[copper burrow]

people have gotten spoiled over last couple of years and now the entitlement is strong 😄

[sour ore]

...I suppose it's that

man, the obsessive arms race towards power really ruins everything, lol

[copper burrow]

I'm largely joking, i just find it all funny 😄

[rigid thicket]

Well, sometimes it's the lack of power difference that causes the extra criticism

Like, using well established old chips but completely flopping on the other details.

Looking at you Miyoo Flip.

[naive hollow]

I for one, do not want “high end phone” build quality. Cuz that mean fragile ass glass font and back plus planned obsolescence.

No thank you

[sour ore]

neither do I

[naive hollow]

Aluminum+plastic >>>>>> glass

[fathom geyser]

Also people don’t mention in reviews, this is currently p much the only choice you have to play PS2/GC in a clamshell. Literally only mid-tier/powerful oled clamshell on the market

[naive hollow]

That’s the reason I never bought the 5

[copper burrow]

almost as if miyoo was a one trick fluke 😄

[rigid thicket]

Basically, the more similar competition there is the more critical people are.

[sour ore]

right, the rp5 has that glass covering the entire front

[naive hollow]

Yeah that’s a huge no from me

If they made a 4s with a 865 in the RP4 body I’d snatch that up

Or at least an RP4 like body

[strange glen]

I love the design of RP5, more than RP Flip2 but the premium looking with glass front would makes me nervous playing it.

I agree with the conclusion of Russ. Clamshell devices just gets more play time and for busy adults with kids like me, more play time is the top priority

[random tulip]

I don't mind it. but I have to be more than normally careful

But that's why I'm buying a classic

Gonna throw that thing down stairs

[prime bronze]

I feel like I would lean more towards an Odin 2 (not the portal) than RP5 because of that. I wouldn’t worry as much about breaking it, and just more robust overall.

[versed vigil]

Eh, I wouldn’t like Plastic for a handheld’s lens since it just makes it more prone to scratching on top of also still being fully capable of cracking (since the more resistant to cracking you make plastic, the more prone to scratches it usually becomes, and then the vice versa).

Now, this doesn’t mean I wouldn’t also prefer the glass to only be the lens and not the full front of the device, but I’d still prefer glass.

[rigid thicket]

I think they mean for the body.

Like >>>>>RP5 full glass front.

[sour ore]

yes, specially the glass back some phones have now

to look fancier

[prime bronze]

Almost requires a case to not break…

[sour ore]

yep...

[rigid thicket]

For phones I don't even care about how it looks since I always use a case with them, ahaha.

[naive hollow]

I'd prefer glass for the screen cuz that's more resistant to scratches

[sour ore]

it feels completely pointless to me, it's more fragile, doesn't necessarily make it look cooler

[prime bronze]

I know some people go caseless, but I would just be stressed out all the time…

[naive hollow]

it looks gaudy

[rigid thicket]

"LIMITED TIME COLOUR!" Yeah, case covers it, don't care. 😅

I use a case just because I don't want to also carry a wallet.

[random tulip]

If it was indestructible I like the look. But it's not. So I case. Heh

[sour ore]

https://i.redd.it/j5idbg8ijbi21.png

jesus

[naive hollow]

beautiful

[random tulip]

Personally I'd be happy going back to plastic everything

[prime bronze]

Oof…total loss at that point

[floral pebble]

Glass backs are the stupidest thing ever

[sour ore]

isn't just more expensive, it's also more dangerous when you try to pick it up after falling

[naive hollow]

pixel 5 was peak phone design

[rigid thicket]

How is that thing even booting on.

[naive hollow]

aluminum coated in plastic

[sour ore]

let's all go back to wood grain

[naive hollow]

it was practically indestructible

dropped my pixel 5 on concrete all the time without a case and it lived for years

[random tulip]

Samsung Galaxy Nexus for me. Even had the removable/replaceable battery

[naive hollow]

i think pixel 5 could do that too but i dont remember

[prime bronze]

Had a plastic slide phone as a teenager and probably dropped it 50 times, totally fine

[random tulip]

Was basically an old school Nokia with how I treated it too

[sour ore]

https://www.cellncomprepairs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/iPhone-12-Back-Glass-Repair-scaled.jpg

i get ansiety by looking at photos of these

[prime bronze]

Getting slivers just looking at it

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, I wish there were more study phones since almost everyone uses a case anyway.

[naive hollow]

mmm i love inhaling microscopic glass shards

[sour ore]

i mean, it's genius for the corporations. Easier to break, more you sell I guess

[rigid thicket]

Aesthetically pleasing naked phones matter for all of 3 seconds before they get cased.

[sour ore]

nothing like manufacturing ewaste for greed

yup

[random tulip]

Dude. The glass shards from these are like deadly too

[sour ore]

Oohh, Ahh, look how shiny it is - and then you forget

[random tulip]

Cracked one once and brushed a finger. Took forever to get it out

[sour ore]

The other day I cleaned my phone and I forgot the color of its backside

[prime bronze]

Could use a CAT phone

[floral pebble]

If you built it without the need for a case there would be space for microsd slots and 3.5mm jacks

[naive hollow]

ulefone makes sturdy shit

[random tulip]

What were the old ones with push to talk

Nextel

[rigid thicket]

I do like using a case in general though. The option for wallet cases and stuff is nice.

Or cases with card slots

Flip cases if you want bare screen but still have screen protection in pocket.

[prime bronze]

Mine has some grooves on the back too, so it’s more comfortable and easier to hold

[floral pebble]

What if you could put your credit card on the phone and have it beam the info to pay without any need for carrying credit cards?

[sour ore]

I have flip case myself, i protect both sides and can carry a couple things on the front, like the card for public transport

[rigid thicket]

Ahaha, I use phone tap most of the time, but sometimes I need the physical card for large purchases or just bank usage.

[prime bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[rigid thicket]

Nice for ID and licenses too.

[prime bronze]

I just get worried about losing my phone and license with it…

[strange glen]

Losing the all these together you don’t exist in the world

No money no ID can’t contact anyone

[rigid thicket]

I'm more likely to forget my wallet if it's a seperate thing to keep track of personally.

[floral pebble]

I hate carrying my wallet anywhere

It has a spot in the car and at home and will only go in my pocket if I'm going into the store to buy stuff

[prime bronze]

Yeah, I have to keep it in the same place in my bag to not forget it

[floral pebble]

Once I discovered how much more comfortable not sitting on a wallet was all the time it was over

[strange glen]

Apparently shipping has started

[rigid thicket]

Like, I'm constantly keeping track of my phone either from physically using it or just having a hand in the pocket.

If for whatever reason I lose it it'd be easier to figure out when I lost it.

[prime bronze]

I guess there is also find my iPhone, which is helpful…

[naive hollow]

i got an airtag on my wallet

and car keys too

[prime bronze]

Have you had to replace the battery at all?

[naive hollow]

not yet but it's about that time

[prime bronze]

And do they beep if you need to find them? Like make a sound?

[naive hollow]

yup

[prime bronze]

That’s actually super nice

[naive hollow]

you can also like gps style find them

and its accurate

like really accurate

[prime bronze]

Ooooh yeah it has the arrow and the distance measure thing. I think I remember seeing ads for it

[naive hollow]

yup

[copper burrow]

wonder if in a months time we'll start off a new retroidgate 😄

[sour ore]

Doesn't get tiresome to have constantly new devices appear?

Like, if I am geting one, I kinda want to go away and just play and in a few years look again what is new.

Or that's my plan lol

[fathom geyser]

I’ve been waiting forever for this device specifically

[sour ore]

I can understand, clamshells are not common

[fathom geyser]

Not even j that, reliable pocketable gamecube