Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[sour ore]

i sure as hell won't, y tend to baby my stuff,

like for example after watching several videos about this, the way just put these things on pockets sounds alien to me.

it makes some sense with a clamshell but even then

[rigid thicket]

I permanently had a DS/3DS in my pocket all through my school years, ahaha.

[sour ore]

I rather carry it more safely if I could

I usually carry one of those... bags you put around your chest? I don't know how they're named in english sorry

https://pacomartinez.com/_next/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaco-martinez-assets.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com%2Fproducts%2F4040021156696%2F40400211.jpg&w=1080&q=75

kinda like that?

[jolly kayak]

Sling

[rigid thicket]

Sling bags, yeah.

[sour ore]

ah, that

so I'd put it there instead of a pocket myself

lol

I do wonder what wear and tear candybar-like or gb-styled systems get on the analogs by carrying them on pockets

[rigid thicket]

I can't imagine pocketing non-clamshells without at least a flip cover on them.

Or like, a small pouch or something.

[jolly kayak]

Retroid Sling
Retroid Bag
Retroid Hand
Retroid BackPocket
Retroid Closet
Retroid Shelf
And other places Retroids go other than a Pocket

[sour ore]

most numerous are going to be the retroid shelf

[steady osprey]

Retroid JacketPocket Flip 2*

[sour ore]

now that I took the n2ds for that silly test i'm going to play for a bit

[rigid thicket]

Shelf if they're lucky.
Dark forgotten drawer/cabinet for most

[sour ore]

I suppose so, but looking at sites like reddit or youtube some people do like to display them

[naive hollow]

Chat

[sour ore]

man, I am still a bit angry at the 3ds shop closure

[naive hollow]

Do I cancel my order

[jolly kayak]

Hold on for 3 more days

[steady osprey]

Are you American sniffer?

[naive hollow]

No

I’m Iowan

[steady osprey]

Uhhh

Who's gonna tell em?

[rigid thicket]

If the clamshell form factor isn't your main draw and you won't be effected by the tariff stuff then no point pre-ordering.

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-minecraft-minecraft-movie-eyebrow-raise-gif-15562442197491337251

[jolly kayak]

Frick that movie

[steady osprey]

Eikouta nailed it

[naive hollow]

Frick your mum

[sour ore]

haven't seen that movie but all I heard was... not really making me want to

[naive hollow]

It was a solid 7/10

[errant pine]

Why would you cancel your order?

[naive hollow]

Controls making contact with the screen puts me off

[jolly kayak]

I don't even mind live action. But fatass Steve is not something I want to see

[rigid thicket]

I've heard the movie seems like it was made by legitimate fans of Minecraft who have no feel for making a competent movie.

[errant pine]

I haven't seen that on mine.

[naive hollow]

That’s good to hear

Maybe I’ll stick it out

[steady osprey]

A tale of two Ice Blues

[naive hollow]

I like clamshells

[sour ore]

you did not pinky it up enough

[naive hollow]

And I have hope for the Saturn classic

[coral valley]

Slipknot mentioned

[naive hollow]

Fr

[random tulip]

You don't understand. You have to beat it with your pinky til it bleeds

[errant pine]

It's still a great device for its price. Your call... 😎

[sour ore]

as far as I could see on a site to compare handheld devices, the screen is a bit taller than the new 3ds/2ds xl one right?

if it's the same as the rp5, I mean

[errant pine]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-up-beating-up-lilo-fight-beat-up-beat-down-gif-19482217

[steady osprey]

I don't remember that movie being this violent lol

[sour ore]

that flip 2 color was unknown to me

[naive hollow]

Guess I’ll wait it out

Hopefully the classic doesn’t fumble Saturn

[sour ore]

sega already did that long ago

[rigid thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/card-crusher-gif-23131882

The proper way to hold the Flip 2

An ancient may may 👴

[sour ore]

i don't know if it's happiness or being smug but he has a lot of it

[gentle badge]

I keep a 28xx or 34xx in my pocket basically every day

28xx if I'm wearing slacks, 34xx if I'm wearing looser jeans

[south mantle]

Iconic movie

[sour ore]

well, those after looking don't have analogs so there would be less annoyance I suppose

[vital belfry]

Lets keep it civil

[noble canyon]

Chicken jockey

[naive hollow]

Go to heck jogg

[sour ore]

https://imgs.search.brave.com/OCyPbZqeLjUurg8s4WP1_hwd-Og9naHlWF3CA8edLHY/rs:fit:860:0:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly90b3Jl/dHJvLmNvbS9jZG4v/c2hvcC9maWxlcy9S/RzM0WFhfdG9yZXRy/bzEzLndlYnA_dj0x/NzM0MzM3OTE4

oh my god it can cause earthquakes

the 28xx looks neat, but usually these formats come with small screens right?

[vital belfry]

I found this as well while looking for this picture :

@waxen jolt I just realized we missed our chance to comment this on joeys stream

[waxen jolt]

lmfao

[gentle badge]

yeah I am very anti analogs on retro handhelds tbh

clamshell also solves that problem though

[sour ore]

I'm fine with them, but they become something to be wary

When carrying it i mean

[coral valley]

Nothing a good old slip cover can't fix

[sour ore]

I personally thought the circle pad from the 3ds would pave the way for analogs on handheld systems but it certainly didn't happen lol

[severe ridge]

He said he wanna do one Friday, so there's still time!

[vital belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-plotting-evil-patrick-spongebob-squarepants-gif-3501874

[atomic sphinx]

Take this shit over to joeys server

[jolly kayak]

Joey has his own server?

Wth

Is it called "All Retro Devices Suck"

[strange glen]

It’s called “everyone owns a Odin 2 portal”

[severe ridge]

Yes very much becoming a portal cult

[jolly kayak]

Sounds awful

[sweet rune]

I'm going to play all of the Fire Emblem games on the Flip 2

boy howdy I'll have a fine time

yessir

[calm oracle]

Hey look it's the fire emblem guy

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-edelgard-fire-emblem-fire-emblem-three-houses-fe3h-gif-14240478927028270805

[sour ore]

He'll get crit into oblivion by a 4% chance

[jolly kayak]

Portal <<<<<<<<<<<<<

<<<

<<<<<<<<<<

<<<<<

Like <<<<<

Wayyyyy <<<<<

Worse <<<<

Than

Steam Deck

[severe ridge]

Flip the flip 2 every time you take damage so you can test the hinge as you go

[coral valley]

Better screen though

[sweet rune]

don't tell me how to live my life

you're not my supervisor

[atomic sphinx]

Press the plastic with your pinky every time you win

[severe ridge]

Flop it then.

[sweet rune]

smdh fr on god my shaking damn

[floral pebble]

This destroys the handheld

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/box-shaking-pizza-ok-and-gif-25312086

[coral valley]

But yeah every time I'm tempted and think I want an odin 2 portal I remember I already have a legion go

[viscid veldt]

I can't wait to play this on the Flip 2

[atomic sphinx]

That's what some would have you believe

[sweet rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906385496387760228/1359019283459346462/IMG_2083.gif?=&width=417&height=278

[jolly kayak]

They're both OLED?

[coral valley]

No, but the ips on the legion go is very good

[floral pebble]

I think Joey is onto something, retroid needs to get the flips out and then issue a recall so people who want to get stiffies over the flex can pay tariffs

[severe ridge]

Stubb's is having a medical emergency in this clip I think

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/alm-fire-emblem-fire-emblem-echoes-celica-gif-22591422

[jolly kayak]

Who asked about legion go lol

[coral valley]

Just saying my piece

[jolly kayak]

So unrelated lol

[coral valley]

You brought up the steamdeck

[jolly kayak]

Bennie silly boi today

This is just the Steam Deck and the Odin 2 Portal.

[viscid veldt]

JUST GET A STEAM DECK BRO

[coral valley]

Right, no other pc handhelds exist at a similar price point

[sweet rune]

you're a pc handheld

https://tenor.com/view/bamgottem-bam-got-him-bam-steven-he-stoobid-gif-22254888

[jolly kayak]

Bruv the conversation wasn't about other pc handhelds

[calm oracle]

Anyways we should just talk about plastic

[severe ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-viralhog-lick-biting-plastic-chewing-bag-gif-18493092

[sweet rune]

calmly listening to a baseball game on the radio

[coral valley]

The steam deck doesn't exist in a vacuum, you can't just say "buy a steam deck" and expect no one else to bring up similar products

It doesn't work like that

[jolly kayak]

But we aren't having a recommendations convo

[coral valley]

What tf are we having then

[sweet rune]

SOMEONE STOP THAT CAT

OH SHIT HE'S GOING TO CHOKE

[severe ridge]

Does flip 2 plastic taste like pickles, and if not, have you found a way to infuse it with pickle flavor goodness yet?

[jolly kayak]

I just said odin 2 portal is a pos compared to what steam deck oled offers. That's my bottom line. Anything beyond that doesn't need to address me

[sweet rune]

yes, see first answer

[floral pebble]

Steam deck has much better plastic

[coral valley]

Whatever you say man

[jolly kayak]

It's like a aggroed a world boss or something. My bad lol

[sweet rune]

I'm worried that one of the early model terminators will have my face because of how much data Rob is feeding chatgpt

[jolly kayak]

I don't want to have a conversation about other pc handhelds rn

[copper burrow]

lot of angry things in here today huh

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-trip-terminator-salvation-gif-19297347

[viscid veldt]

BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD

[coral valley]

I guess? Just don't understand dictating a conversation to only be about what you want it to be about, if you're not interested just don't reply

[jolly kayak]

Stubbs AI spam is krezy

[sweet rune]

2039
A battered group of resistance fighters sneak through the ruins of Indianapolis
Unnaturally loud footsteps draw everyone's attention
A silhouette appears on the horizon. Everyone relaxes, assuming it's another resistance fighter, but as it draws near, they see its face. The face of a thousand killers. The face of Zu

https://tenor.com/view/t800-terminator-robot-war-gif-14523522

[jolly kayak]

Reminds me of Zelenskyy + Lenin mashed together

[jolly kayak]

Can we get stubbs AI channel

Otherwise I'm gonna start spamming Shay Shay

[sweet rune]

oh sweet they gave me my lenovo coat

[stray dagger]

you guys over the plastic bending a lil when pressure is applied yet?

[sour ore]

the plastic bends when you press on it?!

[hallow pulsar]

Same. I played mine last night haha.

[stray dagger]

like literally any plastic, yeah

[tranquil elbow]

just pulled out my 2dsxl from the drawer, guess what

1. it bends
2. there was a slider tattoo on the top screen. Wiped right off. This thing is like 7 years old

but thanks for this cause it gave me a reason to update luma lol

[sour ore]

I was saying it jokingly

[gentle badge]

I think 'this is probably ok' is a fair response, but at the same time I feel like we've done significantly better if you look at modern devices

[sour ore]

3DS homebrew scene is still kicking well enough

I really love it

[tranquil elbow]

yeah!

[white prism]

Plastic flex replaced tarrifs today??

[gentle badge]

like can we not agree that it would be better if the RP flip felt as solid as the 35xxSP lmao

[sour ore]

i absolutely agree

[gentle badge]

and the controls didn't tattoo the screen

[stray dagger]

i mean, too rigid plastic would crack, so a lil bend is probably better

[tranquil elbow]

I dunno, the sp might get away with harder plastic cause its much smaller

[gentle badge]

yeah honestly I'd be fine with the flex if there was a bigger gap between controls and screen to accomodate that flex

[white prism]

The sp’s half the width too

[tranquil elbow]

are you sure a device as big as the flip 2 would be okay with SP plastic?

[sour ore]

but at the same time we have to be realistic. If it was super solid plastic, the weight would increase, which is not something you want when you design a handheld device, and clamshell designs already use more plastic

[tranquil elbow]

since people are terrified of cracking

[sour ore]

it's a balancing act

now that you mention it i'm going to look at what's luma's latest version

I think i am up to date

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-gif-23209851

[sour ore]

pinky swear?

out of curiosity, is there any 4:3 retro handheld with a large screen?

[tranquil elbow]

luma is version 13 I think

just installed it

[sour ore]

13.32 yeah

I need to test retroarch again on it

to see if there was any upgrades

it was quite impressive to see ps1 working, some games perfectly even

[floral pebble]

There's too much mooovement in the screen to not have a cow colorway!

[naive hollow]

No

We settled on the best solution

Metal RP Flip 2

[viscid veldt]

Perhaps a Liquid Metal like mimetic polyalloy

[sour ore]

Does that flex when you put your pinky on it?

[versed vigil]

If it’s like non-newtonian fluids, it will deliberately be soft when you apply minimum force, but the more force you apply to it (as in the stronger the impact it takes), the harder it becomes.

Take this image of Kirby as an example.

[viscid veldt]

It takes the shape of any handheld you can imagine

[sour ore]

Sounds fascinating

[viscid veldt]

It’s the T1000 of handhelds

Should be fine

[sour ore]

...right.

Note to self: never trust a handheld with a cop uniform.

[tranquil elbow]

ceramite and plasteel

wraithbone

the possibilities are endless in the grim darkness of the far future

[sleek birch]

one thing I dislike about the Flip 2 is how there are bezels even for 16:9 games

[noble canyon]

Joey seems like he genuinely doesn’t like this thing anymore

When he’s been playing it more due to the quiet fan being too loud and the plastic quality on his

He’s the only person talking about the fan so idk if it’s a problem with his device or if it’s universal

[hallow pulsar]

Where did he say that?

[noble canyon]

In his own discord

He’s slowly starting to prefer flip 1 just to stop the creaking and fan issues

And he doesn’t like the audio issues on his

It’s weird cuz reviewers are either saying the audio, plastic, and fan works good or it’s got issues

Could be QC

[random tulip]

Probably QC. I mean it doesn't shock me

They're clearly rushing to some degree to get it out the door

Maybe some of these were resolved in the production run

[tranquil elbow]

I havent watched many videos from Joey but all I saw him do is complain

[naive hollow]

What does Joey like lol

[limpid ledge]

Complain is crazy

[limpid ledge]

Joey is honest man and funny

And cheeky person

[naive hollow]

Idk

I find him pretty unbearable

Like almost physically painful to watch

Can’t put my finger on it tho

[tranquil elbow]

I think it's good we have people like him who point out the flaws

but I value his opinion about as much as ETA Prime's

[limpid ledge]

It's simple he is just honest doesn't really care he would say how he see it

[tranquil elbow]

ETA prime just glazes about everything to the point it feels like a commercial

Joey whines about everything

[limpid ledge]

Everything cmon

[tranquil elbow]

it's good to know what the issues are, and Im glad he's pointing them out

[naive hollow]

Sure

Still not entertaining in the slightest tho

[tranquil elbow]

I also know he makes a mountain out of every anthill so the "issues" he finds wont bother 99% of people

I still value his opinio but with a big asterisk, exactly like ETA prime but in the other direction

[sleek birch]

reviews will always be subjective to a point...

[tranquil elbow]

he's certainly better than some other animal-adjacent named big youtuber that just makes up shit and doesnt know what hes talking about 95% of the time

[limpid ledge]

In the end of the day not everyone is going to like joey or eta prime or russ people got different taste

[tranquil elbow]

I dont dislike any of them

Im just stating how I treat their opinions

[limpid ledge]

Not dislike btw

[sleek birch]

who can dislike Russ... ? 😛

[jolly kayak]

Russ is the gold standard. He has his opinion, but what I usually hear in his videos are examples of what something feels like. Comparisons. Not just "this feels cheap"

RG35XXSP plastic feels cheap like a premium Nintendo device to me for example. Like a Nintendo toy.

[restive totem]

I mean , he showed the issue with the plastic which is a deal breaker for me.
He along with Russ and Techdweeb said the plastic felt cheap which is good to know.
He seemed ok during his gameplay with it but the flaws were noticed

[limpid ledge]

Not a lot of people but people been saying that he is being too soft really that's not true that's he is really is

[jolly kayak]

Huh

[limpid ledge]

Like not harsh enough

But it's not true because for my 4 years of watching russ he can be harsh if the device is really bad

[jolly kayak]

Oh. Yah for sure

[wintry oxide]

So first we had Adin saying the plastic was brittle and didn't have enough flex to it, but now we have flex-gate? 🤯

[sacred kindle]

Russ being soft is literally his appeal

He doesn't have 500k subs for random reasons

[jolly kayak]

Bruv

Russ is the facts.com

[restive totem]

I think he found the issues that are there tbh
The plastic doesn't feel Premium, it has that issue of the dpad touching the top lid when closed and the other stuff we saw today.
It's there , not unreasonable of him or us to dislike it tbh
If some can live with that fine but some won't and that's fine too

[jolly kayak]

He doesn't slander devices nor does he over praise them for no reason

[restive totem]

Then Adin is the 4th guy saying that

[wintry oxide]

Adin was the very first YouTuber to get a video up

[sacred kindle]

people when a big name youtuber isn't a reactionary: too soft 😠

[restive totem]

I meant it as another reviewer who pointed that out
I watched his video when he posted it

[opaque harbor]

I prefer facts and reasoning myself 😅

[restive totem]

Also people when a reviewer points flaws on the handheld : he's complaining too much 😡

[south mantle]

Nah there was that Asian account

[restive totem]

My new favorite is also when a flaw shows up is to see if some Nintendo product has the same flaw to justify it

[wintry oxide]

Oh yeah, you're right - I forgot about that one, thanks. Still thought it was funny to call Adin the 4th guy.

[vital belfry]

It’s not that bad, bro is over reacting

[jolly kayak]

It's about their tone.

[versed vigil]

Nah, he’s pretty much the inverse of ETA to me. But at least ETA doesn’t outright resent and attack other people, much less fellow reviewers.

[tranquil elbow]

this is a perfect example. I literally can barely hear it

[opaque harbor]

I mean determining the magnitude of a issue is somewhat important I feel 😅

[limpid ledge]

Nah its bare annoying I can't lie and this is quiet mode

[tranquil elbow]

for him it's a dealbreaker, for me I cant even hear it. Again, good that he points out stuff he doesn't like. Good to keep in mind stuff he doesnt like is something 99% of people won't notice cause he's a chronic whiner

[versed vigil]

Yup, pretty much my take.

[opaque harbor]

why is the decible meter so close? usually it should be 1 foot away or a bit more

[restive totem]

It's also that some people like those guys to validate their purchasing choices and not point out when something is bad

[vital belfry]

Yeah right, the sound of me breathing drowns out the fan noise

[sacred kindle]

I remember watching a Joey video and he was like, the hell is Pico 8? I've never heard of that thing.

Then doubled down on it

[versed vigil]

Agreed, that outright sounds the same as my RP5’s fan (when I stick my ear as close to it as possible), and I was literally never bothered by it when actually using the damn thing.

[sacred kindle]

B-BUT MUH QUIET FANS

[opaque harbor]

usually when you record devise noise you keep a bit a distance away to better measure noise

[jolly kayak]

That's Tech Dweeb xD

[naive hollow]

I have zero faith is recordings of fan noise

[restive totem]

But that's not the tone.
And i would be as disappointed if my Switch did it as i would with my Flip 2

[tranquil elbow]

what, no, everyone plays their handhelds with their ear stuck to the exhaust of the cooling

[naive hollow]

They never translate well to real world situations

[limpid ledge]

99% is big stretch

[versed vigil]

That as well, sticking the microphone directly to the fan (and away from the speakers that would outright cancel out the noise if they were pointed at you with the fan being pointed away) just makes it sound way louder than the actual use-case.

[restive totem]

I see him more as a funny ETA tbh 😂

[wintry oxide]

Bottom line for me is this device really has no direct competitors - nothing else is clamshell with this level of performance and screen quality and able to run mainline Linux. So I may be more inclined to accept issues, but honestly no device is ever going to be perfect and the issues do seem pretty minor to me.

[opaque harbor]

I usually go to russ the most

[versed vigil]

Agreed.

[random tulip]

People don't put it up to their ear at max speed and play off the reflection of a mirror to get their adrenaline going?

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-surprised-pikachu-face-face-gif-15329743

[versed vigil]

Of course not, they just go on a shelf, and if you hear about any issues and find them on your device (even if said issues don’t actually show up in real world use), you complain about it and sell the thing despite barely ever using it anyways.

[tranquil elbow]

exactly

[versed vigil]

Well, no in this case you just cancel the pre-order if you made one, and you just don’t order it at all if you didn’t.

[severe ridge]

the fan in that video is on quiet mode, not sport/performance, fyi
just wanna make that clear

[tranquil elbow]

but sometimes you turn it on and put it against your ear just to go "man, if this fan was 100% silent this would've been a gift from the gods handheld. Shame"

[random tulip]

Yeah. I'm just playing

In all seriousness, all YouTubers are hunting for that next rp mini fiasco to boost those metrics

[limpid ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/isak-isak-liverpool-isak-liverpool-thumbs-isak-thumb-gif-1761117527100795913

[wintry oxide]

I don't like playing PS3 on my rpmini due to how loud the fan gets (and I wouldn't want to tax the system that much without trying to cool it appropriately) - so I would likely only worry about fan noise if you're pushing it that far, should generally be fine for up to PS2/GC

[random tulip]

Field hockey?

[coral valley]

I mean, just from looking at the number of views, the rp mini videos didn't do as well as the more positive videos

[fathom geyser]

I think yt’bers/reviewers who are being more critical just want a better device for us all, not to stir controversy; none of this is controversy worthy yet

[limpid ledge]

You can see the stick ?

[random tulip]

Yup. I knew I got it right

[random tulip]

Weekly/Monthly matter more than per vid

[versed vigil]

That makes it worse since it means it’s likely just got a fan motor with less grease than it should for it to be making that higher pitched noise.

While yes, it would still be bad for a paying customer to have that happen with their device, that in of itself is still a genuinely rare qc issue, but he’s making it sound like it’s an issue inherently part of the fan without even knowing what specific fan it is.

(In other words, he’s doing the exact same thing people were doing and still do with the RG35XX SP battery situation).

[limpid ledge]

Nah rg35xxsp had a problem with fan and heating

[versed vigil]

It didn’t have a fan at all.

[vital belfry]

In all seriousness, if you think anyone in this community is twisted enough to purposefully doom post the flip 2 you’re delusional.

This thing is one of the most anticipated releases in a long time and everyone just wants it to be good..

[tranquil elbow]

that was the problem, bam

[limpid ledge]

Oops 😏🤣

Big mess upppp

[random tulip]

For sure. But doom posting pre release is fine. Then you put out the "omg production version is amazing" vid

[limpid ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-blew-it-its-over-jane-fonda-grace-hanson-grace-and-frankie-i-messed-up-gif-17593896

[versed vigil]

And the battery issue was outright because of the SP’s in those few specific posts having bad components in the charging IC, that people then proceeded to repost the same images again and again to pretend it’s happening way more often.

[severe ridge]

the thing is, joey is 1 out of a dozen or so that got a review/engineering sample
so if its incredibly rare
thats a pretty small sample size for it to immediately happen to
IE, that means their QC is shit

[fathom geyser]

He didn’t even do a full review on it. He addressed it on the unit he got specifically

[random tulip]

Let's put it this way. I trust someone's opinion here in a DM holding the device more than I trust anyone posting about it online

[severe ridge]

1/12 having coil whine on low speed is BAD

[limpid ledge]

He said he would do the his review when he get his retail unit

[random tulip]

Ah. But these are preproduction units. Something something something

[versed vigil]

So is the damn thing pre-production or post production?

[random tulip]

Middle production

Middle to late

[calm oracle]

It's Pre-Production don't worry lol

[severe ridge]

thats a great question, they sent him a review unit, chris made a small comment, he sent an email, and was told it was preproduction

[versed vigil]

Because so far I’ve heard conflicting takes on that, and having 1 among 12 review units with that issue means literally outright nothing if they’re either.

[tranquil elbow]

coil whine on a fan? what are you on about

[limpid ledge]

Pre production but retroid said they have fix the issue on the fan so we will see when we get retail unit

[random tulip]

Man. This is spiraling 😆

[severe ridge]

yes coil whine, they are electromagnetic fans lol, thats how they spin

[calm oracle]

Like the fan

[tranquil elbow]

I dont think you know what coil whine is

[random tulip]

Coil whine and fan noise are 2 separate things. Just fyi

[severe ridge]

thats really the issue, we have some reviewers with issues, and we dont actually know if reviewers have final units or not

[severe ridge]

go back to electronics school lol

[limpid ledge]

Actually 2

[versed vigil]

Did Ban get told otherwise?

[worn pike]

man that feeling of.... i dont need a flip2.... but.... maybe i do later and later its gonna be like... https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-watch-3-us-price-increase-3543595/

$330 ->$500

[severe ridge]

to be clear, retroid says they are preproduction

[limpid ledge]

Joey even asked if it was pre production

[worn pike]

im still kinda frozen on color choice tho lmao

alot of good options

wtf

[limpid ledge]

Get black

[coral valley]

Frozen you say?

[floral pebble]

Get the creeky whiny color

[calm oracle]

Same case as the RP5 I've got

[worn pike]

well joey has the clear one and he said its kinda jank

hmmm

who has a black review unit? eta?

forgot if its fingerprinty

[random tulip]

Well one color has screen scratches. Another color flexes a lot. A third has whiny noises, 3 out of the 5 are flawless tho. So good luck

[versed vigil]

Has anyone done a review on the SNES one yet?

[versed vigil]

Aside from TechDweeb. Since I don’t think he knows about this stuff yet.

[limpid ledge]

Only adin I think

Not a review but yk

[severe ridge]

adin has snes
rgc and stubbs have gc
joey and cobra got ice clear
eta prime got black
dunno about others

oh dweeb got snes

[random tulip]

Prime taking the only working color for himself. Sheesh

[tranquil elbow]

those are all the same color though 🤣

[versed vigil]

Yeah, I’m literally watching it right now, which is why I was asking if anyone else had it for other references.

[vital belfry]

There was never any ill intent here. I wanna say most reviewers didn’t even know they’d get pre production units. Retroid send him a unit without much communication, he didn’t even know if it wasn’t a classic instead.

I think the guy is tired of beta testing devices and not being able to make definitive review which you can depend on to reliably place your order knowing exactly what you’ll be getting if you spend $200+

[random tulip]

Are they? ... Are they?

[restive totem]

That spanish guy has a black one too
It looked smudged on his YT short

[limpid ledge]

I was about to say

[calm oracle]

Brb sending him more Pre-Production handhelds because it's funny

[vital belfry]

Bro..

[calm oracle]

Getting a hold of Powkiddy as we speak

[coral valley]

Gotta keep him guessing

[limpid ledge]

Didn't bang the joke

[calm oracle]

I don't bang anything

[random tulip]

Good. Don't bang the flip 2. No one has tried it yet. And it'll start a whole new round

[vital belfry]

He’s only got so much more hair to lose from all the stress

[versed vigil]

Send him deliberately faulty devices and tell him they’re “QC-verified final releases”, that’ll be even funnier.

[coral valley]

I'm making the flip 3 and you can't stop me

[calm oracle]

He's down to the last 3
I want to be the reason he loses the last one

[calm oracle]

"Powkiddy V20 QC-Verfied. You don't have to worry about a lack of wifi"

[random tulip]

That's what they need to do. Start announcing the flip 3. Then we can start it all over again

[calm oracle]

I INVENTED THE RP FLIP 3

[random tulip]

Classic channel so calm compared to this one

[versed vigil]

Nah, I’m talking full 100%, find something like “that one Odin 2 Mini post with the factory defect that made all the buttons looked like they were cracked” and send them to him, saying they’d represent all the devices.

[calm oracle]

I can fix that

[random tulip]

Can hear yourself breathing

[coral valley]

Super 5 still out of stock 😞

[calm oracle]

RESTOCKING SUPER 5 NOW AS WE SPEAK

[random tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/black-hell-no-crazy-confused-gif-10844795171417297413

[coral valley]

FUCK YEAH

[versed vigil]

Just make him think they’re literally sending out broken devices to people, only for literally everyone else to have units that are completely fine.

[severe ridge]

we could talk there about how they cut their preview video of all the saturn footage cuz it looked like shit if you want?

[fathom geyser]

Joey said he would’ve declined if they would’ve asked if they could send him a pre-production/engineering sample, he doesn’t like being a tester. He doesn’t want to make a final review on potential, or on a unit that would be different than what you would get if you ordered; it makes sense for the consumer

[limpid ledge]

It's simple

[versed vigil]

So then ask them a follow up question on if it will be a pre-production unit when they ask if you want to review it.

[limpid ledge]

He did

[random tulip]

Nah. I'm good. Wasn't gonna play any Saturn anyway and I don't think my heart could take it

[fathom geyser]

He had to ask, they didn’t even email him when it was coming

[vital belfry]

They didn’t ask he just suddenly good an invoice

[versed vigil]

I have a hard time believing that they didn’t even verify if he had the same address to avoid sending a $200 device to some other random person.

[limpid ledge]

People don't understand they sent to him without telling him if it was pre production

[fathom geyser]

I don’t

[versed vigil]

So he didn’t ask before they sent it?

[atomic sphinx]

why not go ask on his server

[versed vigil]

And they just sent it without even verifying anything?

[fathom geyser]

We literally said, he didn’t even know whether he was getting a Flip or a Classic or not, just a notif from DHL

[versed vigil]

If that’s what happened then yeah, that was outright stupid of Retroid to do, since you never send something to someone without letting them know first and verifying their address.

[limpid ledge]

Hell he didn't know if it was classic or retroid because they didn't tell him oh we are sending this and that if retroid told him he would declined and wait for his retail unit

[versed vigil]

Since that’s literally the easiest way imaginable to get situations where someone else gets the device because they moved into the house you already moved out of.

[random tulip]

Needs to be one of those subscription boxes. Monthly retroid box. Dunno what they'll send me. But it'll be something

[floral pebble]

It sucks over there

[vital belfry]

Yes that’s retroids communication for ya

[severe ridge]

see the rp classic channel if you have further questions about retroids execution lol
or the rpmini channel
or the retroid discord in general a couple weeks ago

[vital belfry]

Sometimes you won’t get a message and suddenly something is on its way

[atomic sphinx]

yeah well last i checked, it doesn't say "Joey Circle Jerk" at the top of the channel

[versed vigil]

Oh I’m aware, it’s just a further level of stupidity than I expected since that’s outright just taking the risk of wasting money on sending it to the wrong person.

[random tulip]

Fanbois are out tonight

[fathom geyser]

I think the bigger issues is reviewers making full-on reviews on non-retail units

[random tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[severe ridge]

it doesnt say suck zus balls either but your name is the way it is lol

[tranquil elbow]

Im out this is giving me anxiety

have a nice night

[atomic sphinx]

lmao

[limpid ledge]

Personally

[atomic sphinx]

that's rich

[severe ridge]

this happens every release for highly hyped stuff tbh, right before launch, the community eats itself alive for a few days to a week or so

so yeah lets all take 5 maybe

[random tulip]

The friends are the community you eat along the way

[atomic sphinx]

especially with the fear mongering for a free handheld

[restive totem]

What a beautiful handheld , let me check the Discord to learn more about it and ...

[versed vigil]

Fair, and I will admit I’m mostly basing my previous arguments on it being something they all agreed to in advance on (not them being sent a device without being told), so I thought it was something they outright directly wanted, even with the issue of it being pre-production.

[coral valley]

Do reviewers get to keep the pre-production units?

[severe ridge]

yes usually

[random tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-6502286207230651503

[limpid ledge]

Yh if they like it enough

[vital belfry]

In an ideal world that’s what should have happened, them agreeing in advance that is

Maybe retroid has cash flow issues where they literally CAN’T send out retail review units before retail units for customers and have to resort to engineering units

[versed vigil]

Honestly, I’m fully willing to believe they rushed them out because of wanting to hurry before the tariffs, but that still means they should have emailed them in advance to verify the address.

It’s the same reason why I honestly think Anbernic may have legit only announced the 557 now in order to get units sold before tariffs start, on the gamble that at least most will get shipped before they officially start.

[gentle badge]

that would be an insane way to operate

but that does appear to be the case

[limpid ledge]

At least anbernic rg557 will be ready

[gentle badge]

retroid somehow is the only handheld maker in the entire space with zero working capital

[limpid ledge]

It's weird only anbernic can send retail units but retroid can't do that

[gentle badge]

powkiddy manages too

[versed vigil]

You’re saying this to the one person who can outright and is willing to verify that it will absolutely not be ready in the “no first revision (not just batch) issues” sense.

[gentle badge]

and ayaneo

[vital belfry]

Anbernic is ballin, max probably got his 7th yacht off the xx line alone

[versed vigil]

Because there is no difference between retail and pre-production with Anbernic, only first version and future silent revisions.

[vital belfry]

I gotta say that’s fair point

[gentle badge]

retroid could be great if they just stopped rushing every release

[limpid ledge]

I mean

[vital belfry]

Reminds me of the way the RG cube launched

[versed vigil]

In fact, it’s the same with Powkiddy as well, or at least there’s a difference between domestic and international.

[restive totem]

Bro built the dream with the H700 and some rom dumps he has on his pc.

[vital belfry]

the Chinese dream

[versed vigil]

That was pretty much the first time we had actual verifiable proof of something I had been theorizing way beforehand.

[limpid ledge]

But they fixed with rg cube xx

[restive totem]

All of them *
The difference is that one sells unfinished stuff in bulks to Aliexpress stores and the other builds your unfinished stuff on preorder

[versed vigil]

Literally whatever they show on their teasers? Whatever people get in domestic that they say “will be totally fixed”? Those are production units.

[vital belfry]

Stubbs finding out their sales rep lied to him about the first batch was funny af

Like how do you piss off stubbs

Out of all people

[limpid ledge]

Don't forget about guitar diss track

[vital belfry]

I actually forgot about that, what is the guitar diss track?

[versed vigil]

Fixed what? The fact I still had to fight with customer support for 2 months to get my RG Cube a screen with less light bleed than the first one, the first replacement screen having even worse light bleed?

[limpid ledge]

I'm sorry

[versed vigil]

The fact that my RG CubeXX still manages to have both light bleed and a weirder issue where the power button doesn’t work unless you hold it for an insanely longer time than it should take?

[vital belfry]

I’m sorry

[limpid ledge]

Virtual hug

[vital belfry]

I’m not gonna virtual hug you but I send my condolences

Anbernic trying to get away with making people having to repair their own faulty product was crazy

[versed vigil]

The fact that my RG405M was one of the flawed first versions despite me ordering after they phased out that design, the same first version that would directly break off the shoulder buttons? Forcing me to solder it back on because they wouldn’t let me replace it without paying them for the shipment?

[coral valley]

Isn't that kind of what retroid is doing

[vital belfry]

At least your screen didn’t fall out

[limpid ledge]

I remember this one that one was crazy

[versed vigil]

Yeah, difference is that Retroid would send you a replacement part that actually works, and not be even worse.

[limpid ledge]

That's true

[sweet rune]

Guys, I'm trying to eat these TERRIBLE Chinese green beans my wife made. I don't need to be getting DMs about rude behavior in here

[floral pebble]

Stop snitchin

[coral valley]

It's calmed down a bit since then

[limpid ledge]

Chinese green beans yk

[vital belfry]

Who was rude?

Need to see receipts

[sweet rune]

They didn't trim them and they were on the vine so long that the skin is inedible

[limpid ledge]

I can't lie to be honest

[sweet rune]

SMDH FR

[versed vigil]

No, instead my RG40XX H’s did, and that was before I had to resolder the ribbon connector since they outright ghosted me on sending a replacement daughterboard (not even a motherboard) when all the controls on the left side of the device started not working properly.

[limpid ledge]

God bless your wife for trying 🙏🏾😭😭😭

[vital belfry]

Maybe you should stop buying from anbernic

[severe ridge]

i bought snap peas like that once, i was displeased

[sweet rune]

She got them from Aldi

[severe ridge]

was all ready for a nice snack, but it was not after all a nice snack

[coral valley]

Aldi my goat

[sweet rune]

The brand is Ede Mame if you want to avoid them

[limpid ledge]

Aldi ahhhhh that's dark

[coral valley]

Best bang for your buck grocery store

[floral pebble]

Aldi has some serious hit and miss kinda produce

[limpid ledge]

More misses

[versed vigil]

I already swore off any and all Anbernic’s devices more than $90 after the RG Cube, since I outright understand and accept being willing to deal with these kinds of issues in their budget stuff, but I refuse to do so for non-budget handhelds.

[floral pebble]

I've given up on buying their grapes ever again like 4 separate times

[versed vigil]

I’ll still call out the issues, but it honestly won’t stop me from getting them if they’re legit cheap enough, I’ll just wait a month or 2 since I refuse to buy day one from them at all.

[floral pebble]

But then they're only 99 cents and taste good

[coral valley]

Their apples are pretty hit or miss

[limpid ledge]

I can't lie I would crash out

4 devices yk

Serious headache

[versed vigil]

I’m not even gonna lie when I say it’s because I want to also see if they’re actually still having issues after a month, since literally no one bothers to care about issues like “oh, you have to hold the power button for 10 whole seconds just to turn the thing on or off”.

[vital belfry]

They truly fooled RNS’s asshole

[limpid ledge]

Bro the pizza got me sick never again

[fathom geyser]

I bought the Flip 2 on a coin flip, a coin flip hasn’t failed me yet

[vital belfry]

Someone pls post that one picture for reference so this doesn’t come of as too volatile

I blame @vagrant wyvern for posting that too much

[floral pebble]

The frozen mama coochie stuff? Or take N bake style?

[versed vigil]

Like, I unironically hate that people treat “there are issues but they’re Anbernic budget handhelds so it’s fine” with being somehow the same thing as “there are no issues at all with anbernic handhelds”.

[coral valley]

https://tenor.com/view/two-face-what-do-you-want-what-did-i-do-gif-19410455

[limpid ledge]

Take and bake

[floral pebble]

I got those once, cost as much as Sam's Club but wasn't as good

Fridge pizza right at the front of the store where the warm air gets in just seems like a recipe for food poisoning

[vital belfry]

They once had 70 cents organic cumcumbers

They gotta bully their farmers

[versed vigil]

I’m not even gonna lie, it’s outright way more than 4 since the 40XX V is the literal only device that didn’t have something, but at least a little more than half of them only had ridiculously minor stuff that did literally nothing to ruin my enjoyment for them.

[vital belfry]

Like buy all their harvest so they have no one else to sell to if aldi doesn’t buy from them

To aldi can use that as leverage do buy from them for cheaper

[limpid ledge]

You are better than me after 3 devices I would told them to suck their mum and get my money back

[versed vigil]

Like, I could talk about how I got the RG 35XX Plus and H variants that had faulty clock oscillators that were faster than they should (meaning they’d end up being 3 days ahead or more if you let them go long enough without an internet time sync, and this was before cfw had the option to just do so automatically the moment you connected to the WiFi instead of doing all that manually), but I was fine with those since I’d only need to care whenever I was playing a game with rtc.

[naive hollow]

Out of the last idk 6 or 7 anbernic handhelds Ive had I think approximately 0 have had issues

[atomic sphinx]

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/837558566499254303

[naive hollow]

That is the anbernic chat yes

I’ve never had any issue with the retroids I’ve bought either

But I’ve only bought the 2S

And I feel like that’s gonna change with the flip 2

[coral valley]

Disturbing emote

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/magic8ball-simpsons-outlook-not-so-good-gif-13606372

If I didn’t have a classic in the bundle I probably would’ve cancelled by now

But eh

Yolo

Probably gonna regret not getting the 557 before tariffussy but oh well

[coral valley]

I can't decide which handheld to get as my last hurrah

I wonder if I can fit an odin 2 portal in a jacket pocket 🤔

[arctic scaffold]

im not gonna trust the common sense of a man that ships electronics in a plastic bag with no padding

[naive hollow]

I’m like

One bad RP classic video away from canceling and going 557

That’s probably the safer investment anyway

[arctic scaffold]

does the 557 use new sticks?

[naive hollow]

Yes

[restive totem]

Tbf i go back and forth with the portal because the price is around a Deck and dropping that $ for them to announce the Odin 3 soon sort of killed the vibe for me

[arctic scaffold]

what about face buttons

[naive hollow]

Same ol anbernic buttons

[floral pebble]

Does 557 even have a processor picked out?

[arctic scaffold]

they're kinda obnoxiously tall/thin so wobbly

on the 556

[manic grove]

probably not. even odin 2 is pushing it

[arctic scaffold]

dimensity something

[coral valley]

Yeah the size is the biggest detractor for my use case, but man that screen is good

[solid solar]

what happened there

[arctic scaffold]

u will have to look up your own lore

[coral valley]

If the odin 2 mini was oled it would be an easy decision

[floral pebble]

I have to make up my own lore

[restive totem]

Hear say online confirmed the D8300
Anbernic hasn't said anything yet

[solid solar]

alright. ill assume whoever its about shipped something like a fucking idiot

[versed vigil]

If the Odin 2 Mini was simply a better IPS than the regular Odin 2 (and not the MiniLED), I genuinely might not have even gotten the RP5, much less the Odin 2 Portal.

[naive hollow]

Someone help me weigh the pros and cons of flip 2 vs 557

I need to make a decision

[manic grove]

all we can do is imagine having both lol

[arctic scaffold]

flip 2 - might make it before de me me gone

rg557 - definitely won't make it before demini

[noble canyon]

rg35xx sp battery lol

also light bleed on the rg cube

[severe ridge]

i need that rp5 grip to come out lol, but tariffs are gonna screw me so hard unless they get removed i wont even be able to buy the grip

[naive hollow]

I did not have either of those

[noble canyon]

their last few devices have been decent because its just a h700 chip doing the same stuff over and over again

with the same form factor as a ddifferent device they've already shipped out and tested, same mold too sometimes

like 35xx plus

or rg cubexx

[naive hollow]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it yeah?

[noble canyon]

true

but its not really a fair comparison to other handheld manufacturers

u cant really do a flip 2 in the same form factor as the flip 1 in order to include improvements

[versed vigil]

557 is way bigger and uses Xbox layout vs Flip 2 potentially being uncomfortable depending on your grip

Flip 2 has the Mini casting doubt on its potential for being good (plus tariffs making replacement parts likely difficult) vs Anbernic literally never having a “perfect” first revision at all and its second revisions would likely take more than a month.

Rg557 doesn’t even have a confirmed chipset vs Flip 2 having a well known chipset with legit Linux support (but they haven’t sent units to devs to make sure there are zero issues).

[noble canyon]

anbernic doesnt like to iterate on its improvements, they change dpads all the time

[naive hollow]

I find it funny tho how they do more quality and quantity lol

[noble canyon]

retroid releases less handhelds therefore they cant copy + paste stuff beyond the obvious stuff (dpad/sticks/sometimes screen)

anbernics been pretty good last year overall

[naive hollow]

Hopefully they don’t copy paste the mini screen situation

[strange ivy]

Retroid has better customer service if shit goes south with your device

[noble canyon]

but they're not really much better as devices

[naive hollow]

You mean when

[versed vigil]

Heavily debatable on the quality part, but I would agree that for the most part they’re certainly fine enough for budget.

[noble canyon]

556 vs 4 pro will be like 557 vs 5

its just ergos vs pocketability

556 had bad sticks too but i think 557 fixes it

[naive hollow]

Yeah p much

Performance isn’t a huge issue to me

[noble canyon]

i think flip 2 has far more pocketability to a point where its an actual big point up

[naive hollow]

But ergos and build quality are

[noble canyon]

but it could have clamshell shenanigans

like broken hinges possibly (but i dont think thatll really be the issue with the flip 2 looking at impressions) but stuff like touch screen being weird

[naive hollow]

Flip 2 quality from what I’ve seen has not instilled much confidence on the quality side

[noble canyon]

because you have to hold it weird to access the touch screen

[versed vigil]

Well, the RP5 didn’t have anything go south, and Retroid usually does nail their second go at something (the only exception being when they deliberately fuck it up)

[noble canyon]

im thinking its a general qc problem

stubbs and russ dont have that weird flex on the plastic like joey does

[naive hollow]

Hopefully it’s fixed for full release

[noble canyon]

and variance like that happens on all retro handhelds unfortunately

[random tulip]

Or pre-production issue

[noble canyon]

as it happened to one of my odin 2s

i dont think pre-prod will fix it but i could be wrong

[versed vigil]

Like seriously, anyone who had the RP2+ will know that, while it was certainly pretty decent in comparison to other options at the time, it was absolutely not as good as what the 2S ended up being.

[noble canyon]

ik the rubber nubs are fixed in post production

that is confirmed by david

[naive hollow]

Hopefully mine ships later so I can see what people get

[noble canyon]

joey's complaints about the fan will get fixed as i'm pretty sure you can just do that through software

or it could just be that he got a lemon

[naive hollow]

Or that he’s overreacting

Lol

[noble canyon]

joey's blunt

but the plastic issue he had is clearly an issue on his unit

i can hear the creaks pretty loudly when he flex tested

and stubbs did the same and it didnt make much noise at all

creakiness is a qc issue normally unless its a handheld with actually bad plastic

[naive hollow]

If so then it’s an ice blue issue

Which is the one I ordered

Of which if it’s not fixed

[noble canyon]

im pretty sure a different reviewer tried it with ice blue

and it sounded normal

[naive hollow]

I will certainly cancel

[noble canyon]

but i could be wrong

ill ask joey if he could try opening up the backplate and re-inserting it to see if it fixes it if he hasn't done it

thats what i did to fix my mini's creakiness

[naive hollow]

I sure hope Joey just got a lemon

Cuz QC issues aside I like the look and concept of the flip 2

It’s like the ideal device

[noble canyon]

yea

we'll see when it launches

i'm pretty confident the device will end up fine but it might have some qc problems

so you need a good version of it like stubbs did

[naive hollow]

QC lottery is bad

Only sticking it out cuz I have a classic 6 in the bundle and Baja blast color is poggers

[versed vigil]

Tell me about it. It’s somehow the issue that’s awful only when it happens to a lot of people, but is perfectly fine when it only happens to a few (so you end up in the situation where most of these companies barely do anything to fix it).

[random tulip]

Should just go back to consoles. Would solve all our problems

[versed vigil]

I swear, I sometimes feel like I outright got lucky that the RG Cube’s light bleed ended up being as prevalent as it was, because otherwise I have literally zero faith that they would’ve even sent me my first replacement screen for free, much less the replacement.

[noble canyon]

nothing gets as bad as my 353v squeak 🤢

[naive hollow]

Switch gonna bankrupt me man

[noble canyon]

i wanted to throw up

oh yea

did y'all know that the new 3ds xl

the paint job gets fucked up over time?

it loses paint

so itll look fucked up

[versed vigil]

Because it’s painted.

[naive hollow]

If you get a not white one yeah

[noble canyon]

yea

[severe ridge]

i did the math on our known sample size of "review units" earlier
currently sitting around 70-90 per 1000 with issues with what reviewers have said is wrong
10 per 1k would be a much better place and is generally where anbernic ends up most of the time

[noble canyon]

wait u physically counted?

[severe ridge]

theres less than 20 units floating around for the flip 2 lol, yeah i went and counted

[versed vigil]

How many of them are the same
issues and was it confirmed that they were all a single batch of 12 instead of 1000?

[noble canyon]

i didnt know theres 20 units of flip 2 rn

[severe ridge]

thats the next and unanswerable question yes

[noble canyon]

i thought it was 10 max

[versed vigil]

Because frankly, if the answer to that first question is none of them, then that’s arguably even worse since it means there’s the same level of variance as Anbernic in terms of possible issues, with the only grace being that it’s pre-production.

[random tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-gif-20569896

[naive hollow]

Me fr

Got f up the a this month from bills

[tranquil elbow]

I'd rathet spin the wheel on chinese handhelds a million times than give a single euro to Nintendo, thankfully

[south mantle]

But Kirby Air Riders?

[tranquil elbow]

Ill [redacted] it on my pc if it's good

Im certainly not paying 469€ for a ps4

[noble canyon]

id rather spend 5 billion dollars on powkidddy before i buy an ayaneo

[tranquil elbow]

same

[noble canyon]

who the fuck charges 180$ for a stickless handheld with a g99 and mediocre battery life

without even having oled

[tranquil elbow]

ayaneo

[noble canyon]

like why

[tranquil elbow]

cause it's a "premium" company, nevermind that their hardware is usually pretty bad

[fast sonnet]

The micro adin compared the flip 2 to sounded worse

[noble canyon]

and it does the same thing the 34xx does but worse 💀

oh yea and ayaneo software

HAHAHA

anbernic stock has lately been pretty good

[tranquil elbow]

dunno I'm a devout follower of muOS

[fast sonnet]

Anbernic stock got pretty decent with the XX line

[tranquil elbow]

I wish they would make muOS for android devices

Im really gonna miss portmaster on the flip2

I mean android comes with a lot of his own upsides, namely android games and native ports of a lot of indie stuff which is good

but portmaster is so charming

wonder what the 865 can get away with with dosbox

no one really tests doxbox emulation on handhelds, guess the interest is not really there

[versed vigil]

…You do know that Linux still works on the RP Flip 2 right? From what Russ tested with Rocknix it might even be outright completely drop-in.

[tranquil elbow]

yeah I mean without dual booting

should've specified

[versed vigil]

Ah, fair enough. I usually only use Rocknix on the RP5 for Portmaster and stuff like the few PS3 games that work well on it (plus Xbox now that they got Vulkan support working decently well enough on it).

[tranquil elbow]

yeah that's fair. I just find dual booting incredibly annoying for some reason. Prolly my OCD. I want one OS that has everything haha

and installing and configuring an entire OS just for portmaster rubs me the wrong way, again its just my brain being weird

[limpid ledge]

They got vulkan

[south mantle]

So you’re telling me I can’t make this work with my Flip 2?

[tranquil elbow]

no, but you can buy a bluetooth gamecube controller that will

and as a bonus, you dont give any money to Nintendo

[mystic void]

So much cope today hot dam lmao

[versed vigil]

Nah, they’ve said that about all their other controllers.

They still end up working on everything anyways.

[noble canyon]

LETS GO GAMBLING

[mystic void]

Honestly I obviously hope you all get a good device. But if any issues become widespread then I got to laugh for people preordering a rushed retroid release

[versed vigil]

Yeah, except the one that I got from 8bitdo sucks (it doesn’t actually support analog triggers, it’s just got 2 digital inputs, and both of which make it so neither works on blue retro for the GC).

At least with the GC Classic it’s much more likely to work.

[noble canyon]

I NEED TO GAMBLE

[tranquil elbow]

uh thats weird, usually 8bitdo stuff is great

[versed vigil]

I hope you realize I’m gonna be nitpicking each and every issue people have with the 557 to the same exact degree that people do with Retroid.

[tranquil elbow]

damn are we at the point of "I hope your device is bad so I can laugh at you" phase already

[versed vigil]

Like, I’m gonna be full on “I told you so” mode.

[tranquil elbow]

you guys sound like the ps5 fanbois who get mad when their exclusives get ported

[versed vigil]

Nah, I’m hoping Anbernic proves me wrong and they actually make the 557 good.

[noble canyon]

anbernic this, retroid that, u know who doesnt have qc issues

leapfrog

[versed vigil]

I’d rather be wrong than have anyone deal with Anbernic’s usual shit.

[mystic void]

Totally fair yeah. Again I hope people have no issues, but everyone went from don't preorder retroid to preorder and beta test stat on a hinged device that they are rushing to ship out

[coral valley]

You're so right, the didj was peak

[versed vigil]

Especially if the tariffs don’t get canceled for China, meaning people will not only be stuck with issues on their $150+ device, but they’ll outright be stuck with Anbernic ending up way more antsy than usual about returns or replacements with those up (same with Retroid, but unlike Retroid, Anbernic’s the one that “gets a pass” for stuff way more annoyingly often so it’ll be a total shock that “they would ever do this” it’s so ”unlike them”).

[south mantle]

A friend of mine was telling me that

Glad that’s the case

[opaque harbor]

I mean with the incoming tariffs chaos it is now or never

[versed vigil]

Yeah, and right now Blue Retro devs are getting sick and tired of the issues because they’ve been having a hard time figuring out a fix for the issue, and so far only a few receivers have been able to get the fixes working.

[steady osprey]

That actually reminds me, WHERE THE HECK IS TAKI in all this?!

[coral valley]

I think the better question is where is the Super5 stock

[opaque harbor]

if you are not in the US tho I would deffinately say don't pre order as you have no need to

[versed vigil]

Yup, hence why I’d much rather be wrong this 1 time so that people aren’t screwed over.

That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t laugh and say “I told you so” to people buying Anbernic’s $140 and above stuff and trusting it’ll be fine, I just would prefer to be wrong.

[versed vigil]

Yup, I’d say the same in general.

Only reason why I’m even buying the Flip 2 now is because I was already interested (was mostly holding back due to waiting for reviews and dev units) and because of tariffs, plus the fact it’s my birthday today, so I’ve got the extra money (a lot of relatives adds up to a lot of gift money, even when they’re all giving like $20-$30 since I directly said I’m fine with just money this year).

[steady osprey]

He'd be able to secure Super5 stock if he came back to doing p/review videos 😉

[opaque harbor]

I hope I end up liking the transparent blue shell otherwise I might end up selling it, or maybe keeping it in a drawer

[coral valley]

🎂

[versed vigil]

I loved my Ice Blue RP4 Pro, so as long as it’s the same or a similar color I’ll like this one as well.

[random tulip]

Supposedly this has already been debunked. Just like the other controllers they've released, it's targeted for that environment but isn't guaranteed to work for others, but in the end it's a BT controller

Ah. I see @versed vigil beat me to it

[opaque harbor]

do we know the order in which they will produce the color options?

[random tulip]

No

[steady osprey]

GENERALLY, it's been black first, yes?

A small part of why I ordered black

[south mantle]

Obv GC bc it’s the coolest

Purp best

[steady osprey]

If I had to guess, I'd say it goes Black - Grey - GC - Ice Blue (but I'm of course completely pulling this out of my prison wallet)

[opaque harbor]

man every time I look at gamecube that silly yellow stick gets me annoyed

[steady osprey]

Ice Blue will almost certainly be last, especially if another reviewer comes out and says the Ice Blue housing is cheap or pinky flex inducing

[south mantle]

Actually my pinkie toe could bend it

[steady osprey]

Are pinky toes generally more or less strong than pinky fingers?

[opaque harbor]

weaker

[steady osprey]

I guess pinky toes are weaker seeing as they're vestigial

[opaque harbor]

pinky fingers are one of the strongest fingers

[versed vigil]

Nah, Ice Blue was the second most popular option from what most votes showed so far, and if not that then at least third (with Black always #1, and GC either being 2nd or 3rd if it’s not Ice Blue).

Surprisingly 16-bit is the last place pick, which sucks because that could easily be modded to be a legit perfect PS1 theme, or practically any other console with that color of gray.

[south mantle]

Pinkie toes have way less dexterity

[south mantle]

Uhhhh they’re like the only reason we can walk straight

[steady osprey]

16-bit is the only colourway that has in anyway tempted me away from black, it looks really sharp in the previews

[south mantle]

If you break your pinky toe, you won’t be able to stay upright

They’re randomly extremely useful

But supe weak

[steady osprey]

Evolutionarily speaking, due to wearing shoes for a great deal of time now, we're going to lose the pinky toe entirely

It's why some people's pinky toes curl into their foot so much

Body is preparing to shed them

[opaque harbor]

you think 100 years is a long time?

[steady osprey]

You think we've only been wearing shoes for 100 years?

Hmmmm

[opaque harbor]

modern shoes yes

[random tulip]

Jordans didn't exist 101 years ago. So yeah

[versed vigil]

Right?! Like, I still picked Ice Blue because I just love the color, but SNES US is still a really freaking good Colorway.

[opaque harbor]

pre industrial shoes caused less feet problems due to being less restrictive

[rose swift]

i doubt ancient footwear fully enclosed the foot. most focused on just covering the sole

[steady osprey]

Consistent shoe wearing dates back 10000 years

[random tulip]

Bro over here thinking we barefooted it when we fought the Redcoats

[steady osprey]

It isn't the enclosing of the toe, it's the flat large surface area under the foot which negated the need for the pinky toe

[versed vigil]

No, but Greeks and especially Egyptians certainly were.

[random tulip]

Sandals still provide balance and support

[fathom geyser]

I’m still going for Ice Blue, I know I’m gambling, but I’ve got a feeling in my gut it’s what I want

[random tulip]

Oh man. Is this the next level of the spiral

[steady osprey]

(This is off topic but I love talking about shizz like this)

[random tulip]

Ancient footwear. Didn't have this on my flip 2 bingo card

[opaque harbor]

historically the rise of poor feet health is more of a post industrial revolution thing due to different shoe designs and bad habits among people

[steady osprey]

So who is going to open the first Etsy shop for Flip 2 stickers?

[random tulip]

Flip-2-Flops

Copyrighting it

[coral valley]

This has to be one of the most diverse discussion boards I've been apart of

[steady osprey]

I hope the Flip 2 isn't a flop 😉

[coral valley]

We just talk about anything on here

[random tulip]

Forreal

[versed vigil]

Well, it’s not Cows, but it’s certainly better than what it otherwise was.

[steady osprey]

I blame the mods for pushing the Big Cow agenda

[opaque harbor]

in fairness there was the 199 times which were crazy

[random tulip]

And people just offer up wild uninformed takes on the reg. It's pretty wild

[steady osprey]

Hey now, I have a minor in History, my takes are not uninformed (definitely wild tho)

[random tulip]

It did derail us. I was there at the beginning of Cowmageddon

[random tulip]

Wasn't you 😆

[south mantle]

Someone should do it now. Joey gave us the diameter on stream

[steady osprey]

Ooooo damn oh damn oh damn, this just occured to me! This pinky talk is allowed because I'm LACK-TOES-INTOLERANT

ZINNNG!!!

[random tulip]

Imagine if instead of being square, it was more like a waffle iron

Wonder if that would effect flex

[opaque harbor]

I find the design on the lid a little annoying but it is what it is

[random tulip]

Yeah. Thankfully I won't be looking at it much

[south mantle]

I mean it just helps you center a sticker

Sooooo

[random tulip]

Was the sole purpose of the design

[south mantle]

Retroid was thinking ahead

[tranquil elbow]

I'm wondering if a vinyl sticker would pick up the texture of the circle though

Cause that would look pretty bad

[random tulip]

Maybe you can use it like a washboard as you crush it with your pinky toe?

[steady osprey]

RH put a sticker on it on stream and it didn't sit cleanly

This will require some intention

[opaque harbor]

due to the different texture it would probably be a issue

[south mantle]

I mean that sticker was pretty large lol

[tranquil elbow]

Was it a paper sticker or a vinyl one

[distant drum]

Yeah the circle is raised

[south mantle]

I think it was hanging off too

[steady osprey]

PRobably paper

[distant drum]

Going to need to be cut precisely

But I’m sure vendors will oblige

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah paper is a no go I think

But maybe vinyl is thick enough

[south mantle]

We should ask one of these kind gentlemen to get calipers that have batteries

Poor Joey’s died and he was using the MK 1 eyeball

[distant drum]

It’s wild

[random tulip]

First person to get one of these to work on it gets my money

[opaque harbor]

someone made a holographic sticker for the rg35xx sp I think

[gentle badge]

dosbox pure can run on basically any decent retro handheld via retroarch but that is I believe a 486 emulation

if you want to get into pentium 1/2 emulation I think you have to do that on PC atm

[tranquil elbow]

Fair

Didn't think it would change much since it's still x86 architecture

[gentle badge]

the pentium stuff is just significantly beefier than a 486 because that was back when moores law was still a thing

[tranquil elbow]

Wouldn't that just be a matter of how powerful the Soc is

[gentle badge]

plus you start to potentially want to emulate a gpu like the voodooFX cards

[gentle badge]

there are other considerations that dosbox-pure just doesn't get into

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah Ok dedicated gpus are a fair point

[gentle badge]

the instruction set expanded quite a bit with the pentium series IIRC

it wasn't just '486 but overclocked'

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah but there was no game that required a pentium to run

[gentle badge]

there definitely was

[tranquil elbow]

It would still run on a 486, maybe way worse

[fossil timber]

Watched a bunch of flip 2 reviews back to back at work like an addict dreaming about my next hit...
Anyway I have come to the conclusion that Joey is the anti-ETA-Prime. And now I think I will chase a Joey or Eta video with the others review to help give me a greater awareness of the good and bad features of any handheld before I buy.
They are like Batman and the Joker, cant have one without the other.

[severe ridge]

you actually can install windows 95/xp onto dosbox 😄 which opens up a LOT more options

[gentle badge]

which dosbox? pure (the one in retroarch) caps out at 98SE I think (and runs it kinda poorly)

but yeah dosbox-X can do win98SE well on PC

[versed vigil]

You know what? Fair.

[severe ridge]

yeah its still better done on pc

[gentle badge]

for XP I'd want to use pcEM or 86box

or virtualbox with a gpu plugin

[tranquil elbow]

Yay so I can emulate pc games

On a

Pc

[gentle badge]

but yeah I'm planning on setting up a win98SE setup in dosbox-X soon

yeah on android you're stuck with dosbox-pure AFAICT and probably just want to stick to MS DOS games rather than try to navigate win 3.1 or 95 via touchscreen lol

loads of keyboard only MS DOS games that will map just fine to controllers

[tranquil elbow]

I wanna play homm3 on the flip 2

Cause I'm weird like that

[gentle badge]

turn based games can probably get away with joystick mouse just fine

[tranquil elbow]

And my ultimate goal is having homm3 installed in every device I own

[gentle badge]

hell I think techdweeb was playing HOMM with a dpad mouse lol

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah I asked him under the video haha

But it was homm2

Guess 3 works too

It's a dps game iirc

Dos

[gentle badge]

homm3 is a 1999 release for windows

so you probably will have to install windows first

yeah you'll need win95 and the 486 emulation may not cut it

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah I just checked, F

It's on portmaster though 🥲

[gentle badge]

its on portmaster

[opaque harbor]

What is homm 3?

[gentle badge]

heroes of might and magic

[tranquil elbow]

Heroes of might and magic 3

One of the best games ever

[gentle badge]

but yeah VCMI is an open source HOMM3 engine

[opaque harbor]

Can't you get that working on gog?

[gentle badge]

just need the game data files

[gentle badge]

they want to play on the flip 2 though

[tranquil elbow]

I don't think I can run GOG on the flip 2

[opaque harbor]

That might be a bit harder

[gentle badge]

via linux you can just use VCMI in portmaster

[tranquil elbow]

I can just install portmaster or rocknix

[gentle badge]

android there was a (crappy) android port done years ago

[tranquil elbow]

But aaaah give me portmaster on android

[gentle badge]

android doesn't work that way unfortunately

winlator might work?

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah prolly

[gentle badge]

lol I just looked at what the most downloaded ports on portmaster are

it's stardew valley by a LOT

[mystic void]

How unhinged do you have to get to get to that point though\

[gentle badge]

150k downloads, second most is half life at 68k

[tranquil elbow]

Oh damn there's a thing called exagear

That's made to run homm on android haha

[gentle badge]

I need to set up portmaster on my RP5 and move my UFO50 save over

[tranquil elbow]

Oh and vcmi is on android too

[gentle badge]

oh there you go

open source engine like VCMI is gonna be way more efficient than running the windows version of the game via an emulator or translation layer

[tranquil elbow]

For sure

[severe ridge]

theres also delta touch specifically for doom and doom mods

[gentle badge]

I still can't believe portmaster got Jedi Knight 3 - Jedi Academy

like it's a gold mine for boomer shooters in general but surprised it went that modern

[versed vigil]

…

[mystic void]

Actually

[versed vigil]

It was only 1 time for the bit, don’t look at me like that.

[mystic void]

Funny comment in this chat lol

[restive totem]

It's a Dimensity chip , they lost without even releasing the 557 yet.

[gentle badge]

oh man I had forgotten all about ken's labrinth until this discussion

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah but doom runs on anything with a screen

[gentle badge]

I dunno, worse supported GPU driver wise but it's like 150% stronger than the 865 one

[mystic void]

I think Kings quest steam uses Dosbox? or some kinda emulation? Maybe only time ive used

[tranquil elbow]

Damn what kind of soc do you need to run that?

[versed vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-grimace-gross-no-gif-8084888

[gentle badge]

dunno how steam does it but I'd use scummVM i think to play that genre on handhelds

[versed vigil]

Oh god, I hope the 556 screen doesn’t have a non-standard refresh rate.

[gentle badge]

I assume it would run fine on the OGU/rgb10max3pro or the sd865 retroids, not sure how it would run on a 3399 or 3566

[versed vigil]

Because if it does, then a good amount of people about to learn exactly what really caused the ghosting in the RP4 Pro.

[tranquil elbow]

Definitely gonna give that a try, loved jk2

[gentle badge]

its a modern 1080p oled rather than an iphone screen so I expect it'll be fine

[restive totem]

SD is better for emulation tbh Having Driver support is way better than not having it

[tranquil elbow]

The 557 doesn't interest me at all

[versed vigil]

The Odin Lite was also a “modern 1080p 16:9 screen” and that thing had even worse ghosting than the RP4 due to it having a 67hz refresh rate.

[gentle badge]

portmaster of a game from 2002 is usually much much much easier to run than emulating a console game from 2002 because there's no emulation layer

you're straight up running the game natively

as long as your handheld is more powerful outright than a desktop pc from 2002 you should be good to go

[floral pebble]

I've got high hopes for the 557

[gentle badge]

I mean hell you can run a lot of modern indies via portmaster on 3566 even

like post void

[tranquil elbow]

Celeste runs on my sp

[mystic void]

Honestly it's probably good we get so many different handhelds. Everyone gets something/something near what they want

[versed vigil]

Did they say what specific chipset it was or just that it was Dimensity?

[tranquil elbow]

Pretty well too

[tranquil elbow]

Absolutely

[gentle badge]

8300 I think or something

I looked it up when I saw the claim and it has a LOT better GPU than the 865

[versed vigil]

Yeah, now that I can respect.

[gentle badge]

and about 30% better cpu

[tranquil elbow]

That kind of handheld doesn't interest me at all cause I have a steam deck

[versed vigil]

I’ll believe that when I see it in action.

[coral valley]

The 8300 gpu is beefy, trades blows with the 8 gen 2

[tranquil elbow]

I read that gpu wise they're comparable

[gentle badge]

I want an arc pro with the new dimensity platform since anbernic finally is using a chip that can run beetle saturn lmao

[gentle badge]

yeah it's over double the compute score and wildlife bench vs 865

[tranquil elbow]

Nvm then

[severe ridge]

snapdragon will win cuz of compat but it will still be very nice overall

play pretty much anything you want

[gentle badge]

yeah I'd still pick snapdragon for switch emu and probably android native games

and wii.u

[coral valley]

8 gen 2 is still better for emulation because of its cpu and compatibility though

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah but with that form factor and size I'll just use my steam deck haha

[gentle badge]

but for wii, ps2, gamecube, etc I'm sure the 557 will slap

[restive totem]

D8300

[tranquil elbow]

Although it'll prolly have way better battery life

[gentle badge]

it's just not for me because of size, already owning an rp5, and my hatred for chipsets stuck on android only

[mystic void]

The compat afaik really matters in rough emulaters. In dolphin/maybe even PS2 it should slap

[tranquil elbow]

So basically an Odin 2 with grips

[gentle badge]

8300 is 4nm instead of 7nm so I'm curious how battery life on the 557 will be

but yeah I want a 4:3 horizontal with the 8300 and the right controls for n64 + sega saturn (6 face buttons, one analog stick)

[versed vigil]

Nah, it’s an Odin 2 Lite with Grips, still Dimensity.

[tranquil elbow]

It looked way bigger than an Odin 2 lite

[solid solar]

odin lite was a d900 tho

[tranquil elbow]

Small hands trick again?

[gentle badge]

d900 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< d8300

[mystic void]

All I ask for tbh. Luckily I get to not care since dolphin is really well made overall.

[versed vigil]

You’re thinking of the Odin 2 Mini.

[tranquil elbow]

Oh. Yeah, I am

[coral valley]

Rg557 is actually relatively small compared to the odin 2 iirc

[versed vigil]

Yes, same difference between Odin 1 and Odin 2.

[mystic void]

Oh wait we in flip 2 lol there's a 557 chat if y'all wanna go over, I'm hyped anyways

[versed vigil]

Hence why I said “Odin 2 Lite”.

[restive totem]

Very impressive , now let's see driver optmization

[gentle badge]

556 is almost odin 2 size

half inch smaller screen but grips

but yeah we're way off topic

lol

[floral pebble]

Is 557 the same screen as 556 was? Looks like the same 5.48

[versed vigil]

Yeah, and the Odin Lite was the exact same as the Odin in shape, it was just cheaper.

[floral pebble]

556 oled didn't look as hot as others

[versed vigil]

True. So who wants to talk about cows?

Wait wtf?

[coral valley]

Okay nvm then didn't realize it was that big

[versed vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/k-gif-11465060190838002822

[fossil timber]

I hate them, they break down fences and escape to the neighbors and I have to get them back in and fix the fence