Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[versed vigil]

Again, you can be excited for the Flip 2. Heavily recommend waiting for reviews or devs to get their units before pre-ordering. and especially be sure to be careful for them from now on.

[hushed shadow]

I played my n3DSXL a lot over the weekend because it's really the only clamshell i've ever been able to use. I'm not excited enough to preorder a flip2

[wintry rock]

Ah well ... this whole thing did cement me into the "not preordering the Flip 2" category where I was tempted before ... even though I don't technically "need" the Flip 2. Whether I ever get one is going to depend on Retroid's response to my secondhand Mini.

[fathom geyser]

This is where I’ve been at ^^

[hushed shadow]

I can see a flip2 in my future... but I'm just not in any kind of hurry

[versed vigil]

Yeah, although you probably should also ask the person you bought it from for the order number, so that you can give it to them and just explain the situation to change where the shipment would go to.

[hushed shadow]

and for the retro...wow those are some ugly colors 😆

[versed vigil]

Just to prove that it was bought from Retroid initially by a proper customer, and it wasn’t just an AliExpress reseller that could’ve gotten it from the factory.

[wintry rock]

What's the saying ... "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

[fathom geyser]

I’m waiting a month or two then I’ll go for it

[versed vigil]

That’s the issue, they were already showing who they were as a “company that can fuck up occasionally, but will make up for it when it’s discovered” the first time around, and this situation was the second time and unironically unique to the Mini.

[wintry rock]

I do put deception in a different category than manufacturing errors.

[fathom geyser]

Eh, a lot of people left and said fuck retroid after the 3/3+ to this day

They kinda depend on their reputation being a small company

[wintry rock]

Probably fair. I wasn't paying much attention to Retroid before the 3+ came out.

[versed vigil]

I’ve been putting those in the same category since AYANEO lied about the issues with the 2S being “normal issues for review units, it will totally be fixed for consumers” only for consumers to get the same issues with the screen reaching scaling temperatures.

[hushed shadow]

I noticed them in the middle of this debacle, and my interactions with their support (over the last 2 weeks during the middle of this mess) on unrelated issues have been exceptional.

[copper burrow]

ah fun times 😄

[hushed shadow]

So I feel like giving them a little time to settle after a release before buying a flip2, and then I can go in knowing what's going on, and they'll take pretty good care of me if I have a problem

[versed vigil]

And then just when I was about to separate them again, we had the Cube situation where Anbernic lied about fixing the light bleed manufacturing issues for consumer units, and dragged out support for some of us (including me).

[rigid thicket]

My takeaway is, if there's any issue and you're still in the 15 day return window just return it.
Don't have faith that they can fix any issue you have.

[hushed shadow]

And as far as I can tell, there is not really anyone else in the mid-range market segment... Ambernic sorta has a couple

[rigid thicket]

They lost their "trust me bro" card with the Mini.

[hushed shadow]

Problem with that is the $50 shipping back to china

[wintry rock]

This is unironically why some people just pay more through Amazon for some of these devices... might actually save them money on balance.

[lilac sable]

Welp, they mentioned rp6 with gaming snapdragon soc. So screw this flip2 lmao

[versed vigil]

Yup. Like I said, they get the MagicX treatment in that I’m willing to trust that they’ll try to make handhelds good, but I’m absolutely not trusting them enough to actually buy them in the first place until a reviewer and a dev confirm they’re good.

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, fair. For anyone that does end up pre-ordering though maybe just bite the bullet and get most of your money back at least.

[versed vigil]

Wait, did they say they’re doing an RP6?

[left turret]

the only thing that makes me hurry that i worried if this gonna be discontinued like the original flip

[hushed shadow]

My worry was that retroid would actually go under..but they appear to be a bit more solid than I thought at first 😆

[wintry rock]

If it gets discontinued that fast, it has serious issues and you wouldn't want it anyway.

[versed vigil]

All I saw in the Qualcomm announcement was the RP Classic for Retroid stuff, and then everything else was (hilariously enough) mostly AYANEO.

[versed vigil]

Exactly.

[rigid thicket]

Well, not necessarily. If pre-order numbers for the Flip 2 are lower than the Flip 1 they might just judge the form factor not worth it.

Even if it's completely unrelated to actual interest.

The suits aren't going to see it as people being cautious because of the Mini debacle because suits be suits.

[lilac sable]

https://www.androidauthority.com/retroid-snapdragon-g2-gen-2-handheld-3535278/

This makes it easier for me to turn down the flip2 now

[floral pebble]

Flip 3 when?

[hushed shadow]

The RP5 is, what? 2 months old? Maybe a 6 Q4 I'm guessing.....

[versed vigil]

Ah, then yeah, same here. Still tempted by the classic, but holy shit I’d be willing to wait for that or a Flip 3 instead of getting the Flip 2.

[lilac sable]

classic is an easy yes for me

[versed vigil]

Like, that G2 Gen 2 unironically sounds really freaking good.

[lilac sable]

well easy for me to wait cause i already have the rp5 lol

[versed vigil]

Same.

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, anyone with an RP5 already the Flip 2 is a tough sell regardless of the RP6 in the future, ahaha.

Unless you manage to sell off your RP5 so the Flip 2 is just a few dollars.

I'll be the Flip 2 sacrifice so they know there's interest for a future Flip 3 🙏

[plush silo]

Still getting the Flip 2 more than likely as I don't have a Retroid device yet, and it's good enough for my needs

[south mantle]

Yes I’m still getting it bc I don’t have a handheld at all

[floral pebble]

Barring any significant defects I think the flip 2 will be better than the rp5

[polar whale]

Not pre-ordering waiting for review. You never know

[floral pebble]

Not like you won't have to wait anyway even if you order immediately.

It seems harder, but worth it

[vital belfry]

That’s a nice way to start off

[hushed shadow]

I can't wait for my new 5 to show up tomorrow.. probably take me all day to get it setup again but still excited

and who knows if i'll actually manage to get a screen protector on there as well as I did on the last one 😆

[plush silo]

I already have a handheld, but... It's an R36S lol

Not bad by any means given it was 30 bucks, but I definitely want more

[hushed shadow]

every time I get a new one I think it's great. Then another new one shows up.....

The TSP was amazing... then a RP5 showed up. That's it. I'm done buying them for a while... I got rid of 3 last week, hopefully 3 more this week...

I'm keeping my brick for 4:3, rp5 for most everything else, and rp-mini because..well I'm a spineless consumer dazzled by ohhh shiny!

[limpid ledge]

If it's g2 gen2 it's like 8 gen 2 or dimensity 9200 which it's high

But the problem is how this is going to work tho

[south mantle]

Everyone’s saying the Retroid world is burning tho🥲

[vital belfry]

Yes they f’d up

[limpid ledge]

Of course they fucked up

[vital belfry]

That stain on their vest is gonna be difficult to wash out

[limpid ledge]

They have to be consistent and communicate with us not being half and half

[left turret]

thinking that rp6 has been planned i wonder how's anbernic cookin

[south mantle]

I know. I’m a Bungie Halo fan who dealt with 343. I know what it feels like to have a company burn you

I’m more so commenting on how the device I decide to get is right when a bomb goes off in the company

[limpid ledge]

Since anbernic is not on qualcomm list this is making wonder if they are waiting for unisoc to bring higher chip or maybe waiting for Dimensity

[floral pebble]

I think anbernic retired and is living on a tropical island somewhere sipping mojitos

[versed vigil]

Oh shit you’re right, they weren’t mentioned anywhere on that page.

[limpid ledge]

Yeah so Idk if they are not ready to show the device or it was fake rumors

[opaque harbor]

so reguarding the flip 2 how do we think the shell will hold up?

[rigid thicket]

Like the hinge?
It should be better, it's pretty long so the stress is spread out better.

[limpid ledge]

Should be better

[rigid thicket]

I wish they used laptop style hinges instead though.

These single point ratcheting hinges are always kind of sketchy to me.

[opaque harbor]

no the shell like the plastic

[rigid thicket]

Oh...should be no worse than all their other shells unless they decide to use a different material for some reason.

[opaque harbor]

after all how useful will a metal hinge be if the plastic housing cracks easily?

[rigid thicket]

It's more that it's a longer hinge that'll spread the stress/force out better.

They can also just make the shell housing thicker around the hinge too.

And if the hinge itself requires less force to start rotation that'd help as well.

That's not to say that they've done all this of course. The only confirmed thing is the hinge is longer.

And that they're totally testing it with 100,000 hinge flips.

Totally, Trust Me Bro™

[random tulip]

Duo hinge 👍

Basically what most lenovos use as well

[blazing burrow]

I'd suggest to wait for reviews before ordering, i'm going ham on that hinge 🤣

[mint bone]

wondering how come FLIP2 model didn't get New Qualcomm G2 Gen 2 SOC chip in it

[rigid thicket]

They need to get rid of their stock of older chips, ahaha.

[vital belfry]

Because it’s flip 2 and not 3

[rigid thicket]

Basically grabbing people who didn't get an RP5 or people who are going to double dip with a different form factor.

[mint bone]

then FLIP3 should get G3 Gen 3

[vital belfry]

Nah that chipset will only be used by aya and ayn

Retroid stays middle range

[blazing burrow]

D1100 makes sense now 😄

This one won't be available to purchase until April, and we may not see review units for it

I recommend if you're getting a Flip 2, get the 865 for all the compatibility goodness and potential for linux 🔥

D1100 might have a little better power efficiency, and if you love the 4 Pro and its performance, this might also make sense

[lilac sable]

D1100 is good if you want to waste less time on handhelds

(cause it just doesnt have as much support as snapdragon, so you have less to play with )

[hushed shadow]

This is why I have an apple phone. I need it to work, I don't want to be able to f around with it. That's what all the rest of this stuff is for 😆

[glacial creek]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ham-gif-18682899

[warm crag]

I'm sure the D1100 will be a decent deal come christmas sales or something, but 30$ less really doesn't feel worth it

[mint bone]

If only it had G2 Gen 2, Just double checked

its Qualcomm Snapdragon 7 Plus Gen 3 without modem I guess

which is almost as 8 Gen 2 in AYN Odin 2

[tacit latch]

after careful consideration I decided I will be doing the responsible, sensible adult thing this time

and preorder the minute orders open like a madman

[copper burrow]

stockholm syndrome is potent 😄

[lilac sable]

i tried using my pocket air over the weekend (D1200), and it just cant do anything outside the basic stuff. i've come to appreciate winlator on the rp5, and the pocket air just cant do anything with it

not to mention secret console

[hushed shadow]

I have decided that I will wait until my back account recovers from the fsckery that I've inflicted on it over the last 5 months.... So maybe I'll get a Flip3 or Pocket6 😆 I should be more than happy with what I have, Win4-370, Pocket5, PocketMini, Brick.

There's really nothing I can't do..in style..with that hardware list

[south mantle]

Current status

[distant drum]

"eet moar Anbernic"

[fathom geyser]

Bro why are people saying it’s green, it’s not fookin’ green

Compare it to the 3+/4 Ice Blue and the 2S Jungle Green

[coral hound]

I meant to put ice blue haha.

You cant edit the poll though that I see

[fathom geyser]

I’ve just seen it a bunch and I’m like bruv lmfao

[blazing burrow]

It looks like a blueish green or greenish blue to me 😆

[fathom geyser]

It def has a lil’ green in it, but calling it green is like come on bro

[coral hound]

I'm sure people will figure it out though lol

[plush silo]

It's like a teal color of sorts, Idk how to describe it

[kind ridge]

Bleen, Grue

[blazing burrow]

Eggcellent

[warped leaf]

i think it's gleeish brue

[copper burrow]

ouch 😛

[worn pike]

that smells expensive lol

aren't those gaming snapdragon chips finicky

like not as well optimized due to niche

[random tulip]

They're only not optimized until they are

I dont want us to still be using 865 in 2030 just because it's all figured out. Heh

Eventually devs will have to crack the new G chips. Cause that seems to be where everyone is going

They might also be getting sweet deals on em if Qualcomm is trying to speed up adoption

Clearly they've sunk some R&D into them

[tawdry dove]

100% this those chips are on like the 3 family iteration and adoption rates are near zero

[honest pond]

This new chip has a 4nm node which is really promising for battery life

Whoops thought this was the Classic chat

[south mantle]

This is the anything chat

[tawdry dove]

https://tenor.com/view/no-this-patrick-gif-26849540

[rigid thicket]

I mean, if it's all figured out to the point where they can reliably run Switch or something why not? Ahaha

At this point I'd only get higher specced things once Winlator (or something more native 🤞) becomes available for them.

So ultimately...even after RP6 is out just wait.

[coral valley]

Battery life would still be a factor

[rigid thicket]

Depends on the upcost and usage I guess.
If you're often using a device until it's near dead then yeah, battery life is appealing.

But if the price is appealing and Linux is there day 1 👀

(Or Winlator breakthrough or ARM SteamOS)

[formal latch]

I'm personally lukewarm at present, but that wasn't really an option.
Hard to still be excited after everything that's happened, I still want to be excited, but the concern holds it at bay. So lukewarm it is

[rigid thicket]

Excited about the hardware
Cautious about the company

[lilac sable]

do i get a flip2 just cause the dpad is on the bottom?

[echo lynx]

Buttons too

Perfect fps clam shell

[random tulip]

For sure. But I'd rather get stuff with some future proofing for stuff we can hopefully emulate ahead..etc.

[rigid thicket]

I think we're a long long way off from anything else to be honest.

That said, we're definitely in a weird inbetween era of handheld power right now.

[random tulip]

I mean 865 ain't great for Wii U, Switch and PS3

[echo lynx]

Wii u fits the niche

[random tulip]

And there's active work in those areas

[echo lynx]

865 does ps2

Next up is Wii u

After development it'll be stellar

[random tulip]

Yeah. Like there's stuff out now that 865 can't handle. So it's not like we've hit the end of the road

Dev only gets ironed out when theres sufficient capable hardware at hand

[rigid thicket]

Well, if we're looking at ARM/Android emulation we already have high end hardware for development to happen on.

It's very much a software cap right now.

[hybrid viper]

If you guys have seen the Qualcomm announcement about retroid we already know the next chip they're going to use

And it's significantly better than Snapdragon 865

[random tulip]

Yeah. And devs need units to develop that software on. And you need enough devs to actually try it. Or someone to get fanatical enough about it

There's a price point hardware needs to hit before there's enough impetus or interest to really tighten things up

[dusky ferry]

We don't really know anything about it since the g2 gen 1 was not in anyone 's hand, and comparison is probably made to it

[random tulip]

Yeah. We're discussing whether they should just stick to 865 forever because it works right now

[limpid ledge]

G2 gen 1 is like overclocked sd865 so it's will g2 gen2 which it's bit worse than 8 gen 2

[rigid thicket]

Well, not forever, but yeah, ahaha.

[random tulip]

I mean 2030 in tech terms is like forever away. Heh

[rigid thicket]

True enough.

[dusky ferry]

Where is this info for g2 gen 1 being similar to overclocked sd865 from?

[random tulip]

But yeah. I imagine devs will unlock g series potential as more parties get involved. That said I think 865 is perfectly fine for flip 2

[fast sonnet]

^

[hybrid viper]

Personally the performance mark that I desire is one step above Snapdragon 865. I want to easily be able to 2.5x or 3x PS2 and Wii and GameCube across 90% of the game titles and not have the fans whirling like crazy trying to keep up. Some indie switch titles would be nice too. This generation of Snapdragon 865 is like almost enough but not quite.

[rigid thicket]

I wonder how the 8G2Gen2 fares against the 8Gen2

[fast sonnet]

it's still a huge increase over the flip 1

[random tulip]

It's smart for Retroid not to put all their new releases in the G series basket

[fast sonnet]

and the price of the G2 SoC would make it less appealing for buyers

maybe they could make a "flip 2 MAX" or something later on?

[limpid ledge]

From my brain 🧠

[random tulip]

I dunno. I still think Qualcomm is giving heavy discounts to get it rolling

[limpid ledge]

But also G3x gen 1 is basically overclocked 888+

[random tulip]

They obviously made some kind of push with all the G based lineups on the horizon

[rigid thicket]

Because if the RP6 pricing gets too close to the Odin 2 or something and the performance:price isn't as good they run into the "Why not just an Odin 2" situation again.

[fast sonnet]

I always just imagine Qualcomm is the bougie expensive SoC maker in the grand scheme

[limpid ledge]

G1 gen 1 is like 720g level

[fast sonnet]

it was that tier?

my last phone had that SoC

[random tulip]

I think they've started having to diversify. Some of their midrange chips now are pretty awesome

[hybrid viper]

I think the next generation of retroid devices won't see a huge increase in price. It'll either be similar price or slightly higher but probably $250 max, with a huge performance increase

And it will have OLED screen

[random tulip]

The RP6 will be around the RP5 was at launch. Mark my words.

[fast sonnet]

I can speak for the 6 gen 1, it's a solid SoC for my phone

[limpid ledge]

Also g series if you see the ayaneo devices and razer edge they have G series that overclocked or equivalent to original chip

[random tulip]

Yeah. Which makes sense now that Apple and Google are putting out their own stuff (not that Qualcomm doesn't have hands in that as well)

[fast sonnet]

I should probably test gamecube emulation on my phone to see how it handles that

[jolly kayak]

Does Flip 2 look comfortable for GBA

[random tulip]

Define comfortable

[jolly kayak]

Define define

[fast sonnet]

if it's anything around how the X18S was for me, it'll be perfect for long sessions

[random tulip]

Haha. Just meant like physically? Performance? Screen resolution? Etc.

[dusky ferry]

Yup, I can find details for g3x gen 1 and g3x gen 2, simply because they got into people hands. Zero info for the g1 gen 1 and g2 gen 1 other than those useless model numbers from qualcomm

[hybrid viper]

We know for sure it'll be less performant than an 8 Gen 2, and more performant than a Snapdragon 865, anything other than that is just speculation

[jolly kayak]

Idk I'm a one game Andy and I haven't found anything else come close to the comfort and retro feel of rg35xxsp for goodboy galaxy on gba. The flip kinda looks like a good way to play goodboy galaxy on a super screen

[rigid thicket]

For physical comfort I'm sure it'll be fine. It's a tried and tested form factor and control layout.

For feel/vibes that'll depend on the person honestly.

[random tulip]

It won't feel very retro. But I imagine it'll be comfy

[fast sonnet]

it's gonna carry the energy from the DS and GBASP

[random tulip]

Absorb it

[fast sonnet]

large clamshells just feel great to me

[jolly kayak]

Mmmk

[random tulip]

Ditto. But I wouldn't consider them like a GBASP. They're bigger. Heavier. Etc

[rigid thicket]

If the GPD Win Mini wasn't $Infinity I'd grab one, ahaha

[fast sonnet]

YEAH

[limpid ledge]

They didn't use them they were using an example of it plus technology is always improving so it's no point of them using those chips anymore

[fast sonnet]

when I had the Win2 it was fantastic but the battery life and performance were not there

[jolly kayak]

Other than winlator and switch emulation, no way to play portmaster games on flip 2?

[fast sonnet]

I'd love to see GPD try the Win 2 again but with like the N150

[rigid thicket]

It should support Linux/Rocknix

So Portmaster via Rocknix.

[dusky ferry]

Since nothing revealed from AYN yet, hoping to see them surprising us with a 8 elite at the end of the year for o3

[jolly kayak]

I tried Celeste on sp and the aspect ratio ain't it 😛

[hybrid viper]

I'd rather see an Odin 2 clamshell

[fast sonnet]

that'd be sick too

[rigid thicket]

Linux/Rocknix/Portmaster is definitely one of my main +'s for grabbing the Flip 2.

[random tulip]

Odin 2 slider with two screens, gimme

[rigid thicket]

Literally the only legitimate case for having a slider device. If it slides up to reveal a second screen, ahaha.

[hybrid viper]

Is there a big market of people out there that want more performance than the 8 Gen 2 provides? Seems to me they should just pursue more and more form factors for the next year

[fast sonnet]

I feel we're more at a point where the software needs to catch up

[rigid thicket]

For emulation I think it's just kind of software bottlenecked.

For native Android games and Winlator though more power is appealing.

[hybrid viper]

Also why does this place feel more like a general chat

[jolly kayak]

There's a market for more cheap handheld pcs. I love odin form factor. Android sucks though

[rigid thicket]

Or future proofing if Steam is really working on ARM based Proton.

[random tulip]

Once every Anbernic has an 865 the software will come

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-build-it-they-gif-1326664814612279221

[gentle badge]

Plus if the s8g2 has proper cfw support and the g3 is stuck on stock that’s quite the downgrade to pay extra for lol

[rigid thicket]

We're not getting any more info drop so there's nothing to talk about until people start getting them 😂

[hybrid viper]

Yeah pretty much they should just pull a high-end Anbernic and just use the same chip for years

[fast sonnet]

H700 but bigger

[gentle badge]

I’d buy an h700 clamshell with the 406 screen today

[rigid thicket]

The hope with Qualcomm pushing hard for this is that they offer/provide more tools for easier development. 🥲

[random tulip]

Would be nice

Enough saturation and devs figure it out tho

Just no point when only 5 people own it

[dusky ferry]

Still waiting for the mediatek/Nvidia collaboration to end up in consumer device for a proper windows on arm or Linux handheld, qualcomm 's adreno seems uncompetitive outside the mobile space for now at least

[rigid thicket]

ARM Proton needs to be revealed to turn the handheld world upside down again.

[fast sonnet]

Nvidia totally fucked up by not expanded the Tengra line with modern cores for CPU and GPU

[rigid thicket]

They've been doing a lot of that lately.

[fast sonnet]

they have?

[random tulip]

To be fair crypto mining was an auto gold mine. Well and now AI

[rigid thicket]

Messing up, ahaha.

[dusky ferry]

"arm proton" doesn't make sense, proton is the GPU translation layer from directx to opengl/vulkan + handling of windows libraries, nothing to do with cpu emulation.

Probably will have some other name for the x86/64 to arm emulation.

[fast sonnet]

they could compete so hard in the SBC market if they made a dev board that wasn't built with decade old hardware

[rigid thicket]

They're definitely putting their eggs where the money is at, it just sucks for consumer level stuff.

[rigid thicket]

Semantics. You know what I mean by saying "Proton" in that case instead of "ARM based GPU translation layer"

[fast sonnet]

ProtArm

[faint sluice]

Yeah, you can't really look at Nvidia's business and say that they're missing out. But WE probably are. It would be nice to have them competing with the others.

[fast sonnet]

well with how their RTX 50 series launch was, they might need to actually lock in for once

[rigid thicket]

I think their consumer level profits is like, single digit% of total earnings.

Their AI and business level stuff is the vast majority unfortunately for us.

[fast sonnet]

Time for Matrox to rise from the ashes

[rigid thicket]

And even at the consumer level they're still the "top dog"

Especially now that AMD bowed out of competing at the top end.

Which is honestly fair. Nothing really demands top end GPUs lately.

If they just hone in on super affordable mid range I think it'd be fine.

[fast sonnet]

and the entry level had been abandoned by AMD and Nvidia, oddly intel is doing good there

[lilac sable]

PCVR demands top end gpus....

[fast sonnet]

well those high end games for VR

[echo lynx]

12400f got people eating good

[fast sonnet]

the A310 has that $100 price range nicely

[dusky ferry]

B570/b580 is a disappointment with the driver overhead

[fast sonnet]

sadly

[lilac sable]

any unreal engine 4/5 game in VR. especially 5

[fast sonnet]

the usual suspects

[lunar stone]

Well now I have to wait

Lol

[lilac sable]

and then when that comes out, a stronger soc will come out

[lunar stone]

Nah I just need that little bit of power to avoid tweaking

Power-wise I don't need much more I feel

[lilac sable]

have you been tinkering around with winlator yet?

opens up a whole new world of possibilities

[lunar stone]

I have been considering it

[fast sonnet]

and a whole new world of deep tinkering

[lilac sable]

i just wanna know how good would a snapdragon run lindbergh loader

[lunar stone]

Wouldn't lie if I start hearing good things about Xbox and PS3 and Windows games

[dusky ferry]

I don't find winlator worth the trouble unless you don't have a x86 handheld and/or don't want local streaming

[lunar stone]

On a handheld

[lilac sable]

no way. mvc3 is running awesome on the rp5

also the MODEL2 emulator

[fast sonnet]

I got LoH trails in the sky running on my 505 a while back

[dusky ferry]

Until a solution come out that work perfectly with most steam games, including installation of games and automated updates and cloud saves I doubt I will bother to actually use it (other than testing for the 'wow it can run ' experience)

[fast sonnet]

it's very much built for that Linux user type experience of heavy tinkering

[lunar stone]

Honestly though

How much bulk can Retroid add?

Because if it is a stronger SOC at some point you just got to go and be like I'm going to get a Odin instead.

[lilac sable]

ew not oled

[fast sonnet]

but no odin flip

[lunar stone]

I'm holding out that we get a Odin Flip tbh

[rigid thicket]

Winlator will only appeal to me once I can run games through Steam proper. Like, saves and achievements and all that.

[lunar stone]

No preordering the RP Flip 2 until absolutely sure

[fast sonnet]

I'm absolutely sure

[lunar stone]

xD

[fast sonnet]

I've been wanting this since I got both my X18S and Flip 1

[lunar stone]

I'm realize though I really like the DS Form Factor

Not so much a Candy Bar fan

Makes sense though seeing as my childhood handheld was the DS

[rigid thicket]

I like clamshells since you get a bigger screen for the same candy bar size and better controls since you can properly offset everything.

[random tulip]

Trust me. If not for flip 1 hinge and mini fiasco I'd probably be day 1-ing this

[rigid thicket]

Also built in "case" for protection.

[lunar stone]

I just like I can close the lid and shove it easily into a pocket

Nothing gets caught or snagged

[fast sonnet]

just my like SP of yore

[lunar stone]

Such a useful feature as a kid

[fast sonnet]

or my 3/DS

[lunar stone]

Especially considering all the other sharp objects in my pocket lol

[lilac sable]

i like the rp5 so much i was considering this flip2

[lunar stone]

My DS went though hell XD

[fast sonnet]

Depending on how the flip is I'll probably be selling my RP4 Pro

[random tulip]

That's why I'm getting the ONEXSUGAR. I wanna feel like I'm trying to shove a spider on cocaine into my pocket every time

[lilac sable]

no pricing on that yet right?

[fast sonnet]

have we even seen a working unit and not a 3D render?

[lunar stone]

Woah

WHAT IS THAT

[gentle badge]

o2 portal is oled

[lilac sable]

yep. was talking odin 2

[random tulip]

It's an experiment gone wrong. And I both love and hate it

[lunar stone]

It looks so overengineered

Omg hahahaha

[random tulip]

It is Onex

[lilac sable]

for a screen as big as portal, i think ill stick with x86

[coral valley]

Yeah

[random tulip]

I'm def gonna avoid all IPS at this point. My eyes have seen the light or should I say dark

[rigid thicket]

It's a clamshell, but with 3 hinge points of failure and it closes with both screens exposed 😂

[lunar stone]

No matter what you do you're guarantee to scratch your screen eventually

[wintry oxide]

It's a true feat of engineering... I'm just not sure what kind 😅

https://tenor.com/view/cliphy-genius-about-life-gif-13233085

[uncut knoll]

The one sugar looks really good but i have one concern about the device. Too many mobile parts

[wintry oxide]

My main concern about the one sugar was actually the 4 buttons in place of a d-pad

[jagged blade]

https://tenor.com/view/serj-tankian-singing-system-of-a-down-smile-gif-12036240204299801827

[uncut knoll]

That one too

[random tulip]

Eh. They make laptops. I'm hoping they can get a hinge right. And I put my phone in my pocket with exposed screen daily. So I'm hoping it's not a total dumpster fire?

I like weird attempts

[wintry oxide]

Definitely some weird "sugar" out there 😜

[uncut knoll]

The concept is is very interesting

[random tulip]

Plus dual screens are kinda limited as far as options go

[wintry oxide]

True dat

[random tulip]

So far duo and y700 put vertically are my best experiences. Lol

[uncut knoll]

A turbo 3ds with transformers vibes

[echo lynx]

Raaaaaaah super SP!!!!!

[uncut knoll]

Weird but cool

[wintry oxide]

I think the ideal for me would be roughly the size/shape of the rpmini with custom 4 inch 4:3 screen squeezed in and a 1080p screen folding over to cover it.

[echo lynx]

Suboptimal

1440p 4:3 and 1440 16:9 is what you want

Integer scaling for a ton of systems

The super SP standard

[south mantle]

Im waiting for a madman to say “both”

[echo lynx]

Like how this community is pretty varied in demographics

[wintry oxide]

You have a point, not going to turn down more pixels 😅

[fathom geyser]

I was thinking about it, but there’s nothing the D1100 would benefit myself over the 865

It’s just the poor man’s version

[south mantle]

Does it draw less power?

[hushed shadow]

$20 doesn't seem like enough discount for what you loose imo

I'd be really curious to see the sales numbers over time

it's not cheap enough to compete with low cost devices, and if you're already spending $200 why not the extra couple bucks to get the best

or the best supported anyway

hell shipping costs more than the difference 😆

[south mantle]

Isn’t it $30?

[hushed shadow]

Could be, Still not really significant though

[jagged blade]

if was 50 dollar I would thought about it

[plush silo]

I'd have actually considered the D1100 instead if it was like $40-50 less.
But at only $30, may as well get SD865 unless shipping costs are a big factor where you live

[coral valley]

No 5:3? L

[lilac sable]

ew

[hushed shadow]

Ok, so $30

[fast sonnet]

gonna be getting a 1tb SD card for this one

[hushed shadow]

I regret that I have but 1TB I can afford! 😆

[fathom geyser]

I’ve got one waiting for it too 😁

[robust wedge]

I think I'm good. The games I'm most likely to play on the go are better served by a top d-pad. It looks good for twin-stick shooters but I can't even remember the last time I played one. I barely even touch my Odin 2 anymore.

[hushed shadow]

if I only kept games I wanted to play.... well i could probably make due with a 4gb card and an amberic

[jagged blade]

the dpad is same place as the og flip. but whatever

[robust wedge]

lol wut?

I own an OG Flip and that's news to me.

[fast sonnet]

this proves how little you use it

[robust wedge]

Are you both confusing the Flip and the Odin?

[jagged blade]

the dpad is more in middle then on the bottom like odin 2

[fast sonnet]

or this proves how sleep deprived I am

I could've sworn they did the same layout as the Flip 1 again

[robust wedge]

Nope, I think the Flip 2 is the first time they did stick on top.

[fathom geyser]

First time since the 2+

[fast sonnet]

didn't the RP2/+ do stick top?

[jagged blade]

RP2 and RP2+

[robust wedge]

I forget they changed the layout when making the 2S.

[glacial creek]

No screen protector for flip 2? Is this because it wont close properly if applied.

[jagged blade]

to take say stick on top isn't fair.

[fathom geyser]

I think the both stick top layout will work great for me. At first I wanted dualshock layout, but now this might make me actually happier cause I’m gonna be playing mostly GC games on this

GC right stick was a nub anyways lol

[fast sonnet]

I'm gonna be playing tons of RPGs on here since Vita will work pretty well, and I could do that fine on the X18S

[robust wedge]

Like I said, the Flip 2 will be great for certain types of games, but not the ones I typically play outdoors.

It's going to be a personal preference thing.

[jagged blade]

GPD and X18S does not feel like dpad on bottom

[fast sonnet]

fair?

[stray dagger]

well sure, but I would rather have Qualcomm make the SD8gen2 more affordable for gaming, because that now also has Linux support

[lilac sable]

so if we preorder, is it set in stone? or we can still cancel?

[jagged blade]

you can cancel

[south mantle]

So is this gonna work as first come, first serve?

Like the first people to preorder get the first shipped units?

Or are they gonna start shipping by regions?

You know this is prob a question for Retroid themselves

[rigid thicket]

It's usually by whatever region they can optimally fill up a shipping crate with first.

So time of pre-order doesn't matter until they start shipping basically.

[south mantle]

I gotcha

[rigid thicket]

It's just another reason why companies like pre-orders since it lets them batch ship and save a bit of money in the initial run.

[wintry oxide]

You sure you don't want .1 moar Bluetooth?!? 😜

[south mantle]

So I’ve looked up a lot of RP5 reviews and don’t see where I would run into an issue, but I shouldn’t have an issue running pretty much any Wii games on the Flip 2 with the SD865, right? I wanna use this as a Wii and older machine

[random tulip]

Yeah. It always trickles down tho

Prices start high. Then more manus adopt. Then scales of production kick in. Then prices come down

[stray dagger]

it would be nice if Qualcomm made their G-series SoC more accessible for Linux

[random tulip]

I imagine that'll happen with time as well. Demand for both chips and Linux should go up

At least I hope it does. Starting a G series collection it seems

[cunning isle]

Do you guys know if the rp5 abxy button replacement will work for the flip 2

Feels like something they should have confirmed before preorders

[south mantle]

I think it was mentioned that you could swap them

Idk about comparability tho

[stray dagger]

yes rp4/rp5 and rpflip2 buttons are all interchangeable

[south mantle]

It’s something I always wanna do, but then I thought about how I’m only ever gonna play Nintendo games on here more than likely

I love the Xbox layout, but it’s not like it’s gonna help by switching to it

How long does it usually take Retroid to ship things?

Like the shipping times

[blazing burrow]

https://youtu.be/_DkHE4jOfP8

[fast sonnet]

aw I wished Stubbs wore a suit for this

We need "yay clams" as some type of sticker or something

[distant drum]

He looks like he is making us an offer we can't refuse.

[true fox]

Thanks for helping us pass the time, Stubbs ❤️

[versed vigil]

Did they say the same about the 4-button RP Classic?

[stray dagger]

haven't heard anything, maybe those are the Mini buttons?

[stray dagger]

the cows evolved into cowboys?

[steady osprey]

I'm on super mega limited internet down to Mexico right now, can someone TLDR this for me before preorders open in an hour

I WILL watch it when I return home but that won't be for a week

[blazing burrow]

Happy to help! Eased my nerves to make it as well 😆

[blazing burrow]

oh SHIT

[stray dagger]

just wait for reviews to be out, someone gotta has to break their hinge for science and we don't know real world performance of the Classic yet

[steady osprey]

That's fair

[stray dagger]

most of us aren't too pressed for new handhelds anyway, rather will get mine a week or two later than deal with trouble

[random tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-gif-12550037

[echo lynx]

raaah super sp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lilac sable]

just preorder and cancel on the last day

[coral hound]

Yeah I'll be ordering tonight.

Like the RP5 this will probably have a high turnover rate in the Retro handhelds marketplace.

Hopefully the ergonomics are better than the RP5

I'll never forget that photo thinking man he got it so right

[lilac sable]

ive never had a problem with the rp5's ergo....

[coral hound]

If your a mostly d-pad guy you were fine.

[lilac sable]

i did a whole metroid dread playthrough without any issues

[wintry rock]

The RP5 ergo was fine for games you could play on any Anbernic H700 device.

[random tulip]

The sticks are just in a bad place. Luckily grips fix it for most people

[coral hound]

Agreed, if you're willing to put a grip on it which I wasn't .I don't like putting stuff like that on my devices then you are fine

[south mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/arbiter-were-it-so-easy-halo-difficult-gif-16171194

Me not owning a handheld

[south mantle]

Whatever happened to that kid?

[lilac sable]

are you guys thinking the flip2 ergo (in respect to the sticks and buttons placement) is better?

[stray dagger]

that's on you, we had a very fat year for Retro handhelds

[south mantle]

But like I need a clamshell. I won’t accept anything else😤

Like a DS style clamshell

[coral hound]

That's the million dollar question. I guess we'll find out once someone gets in their hands.

[south mantle]

And the Ayaneo Flip DS was way too expensive and naturally had terrible battery life due to being a windows machine

[plush silo]

Same layouts as the Wii U Gamepad and Pro Controller, which people have said to be very comfortable, so I'm expecting it to be to at the least be very good.
Idk about better bc everyone has their preferences on controller layouts

[lilac sable]

stubbs likes it

[plush silo]

Speaking for myself, the Wii U Pro Controller was and still is my all time favorite controller, so the fact that this device has the same layout as that is awesome to me

[lilac sable]

the big plus for me is that the dpad is at the bottom

[random tulip]

Won't know til I hold it. But I've held an RP5. I mean for me, sticks anywhere but the chin of the device is better imo

Otherwise your holding it like an offering

[plush silo]

I think the fact the dpad and buttons are inset matter more than the fact that they're at the bottom.
Part of the reason I've seen people say the RP5 isn't very comfortable but more people seem to find the Mini comfortable is the Mini having the sticks inset

[random tulip]

It's also just the weight of the device. The sticks are towards the middle of it when the lid is open

It makes a big difference

I think it'll be ok in the same regard as like GPD devices being ok

It's when your gripping the chin and most of the weight is above the sticks, that it's an issue

Especially if you then have to reach for triggers

It works with grips because it then again puts the sticks in the middle of the device

[south mantle]

I’m in the States. 4PX or DHL?

[tawdry dove]

DHL precharges all the new taxes and tarrifs

[tacit latch]

the deed is DONE

[tawdry dove]

not sure if 4PX would dodge them but be slower

[south mantle]

My credit card company thinks this is a scam😭

I’m glad they’re careful but really???

[true fox]

Got mine in GC! I went with 4PX because I am a patient boy 🙂

[tawdry dove]

probably had a lot of charge backs over the mini issues would make credit cards be more critical of purchases from them

[tacit latch]

man this may be the slowest Retroid preorder ever, where's the excitement

definitely go with 4PX if you don't wanna risk it with taxes

[south mantle]

Wym?

[wooden phoenix]

Found the new guy 😅

[south mantle]

Uh

Yea

Man I’m just tryna get a handheld

[tacit latch]

DHL you'll always get hit with import taxes, 4PX most of the time not

[lilac sable]

yay we saved $30

[wooden phoenix]

From a company that tried to screw over their customer base until they got bullied into doing the right thing. Yay 🍻🤣

[south mantle]

So basically go with 4PX to spend less money on shipping and possibly dodge import taxes??😭

[wooden phoenix]

Yes

[tacit latch]

yes man, it's that simple

[wooden phoenix]

Not complicated lol

[south mantle]

IT WENT THROUGH

I just had to text my credit card company back that I wasn’t being scammed out of ~$230

I think

[lilac sable]

im just wondering if i would get a better deal using aliexpress coupons

but they do price a bit higher on ali than their own site?

hmm... for the price i paid for the bundle, i couldve gotten a base odin portal.......

but i dont think i want something that large? and its not a clamshell

and it doesnt have 6 buttons

[wintry oxide]

You haven't bought enough retro handhelds to teach them this is "normal" yet? 😜

[floral pebble]

You should order one and see whether you like the extra size

[south mantle]

They let me send my money to the sketchy Russian company that makes WarThunder but won’t let me send my money to the Chinese handheld company embroiled in recent controversy

[plush silo]

The Odin2 Portal is a stay-at-home handheld for the most part

Whereas I'm expecting the Flip 2 to be something you can take everywhere

[lilac sable]

For that size I’ll just use my ROG ally I guess

[plush silo]

If you already have an Rog Ally, then there's less need of a Portal imo.

[noble canyon]

yea i think for emulation you can pretty much main a flip 2

since its both pocketable and has a big enough and nice enough screen for everything android related unless you need that extra inch for better streaming

and its generally powerful enough to run enough-ish switch for most people who don't plan on playing high end

which u should be playing on a normal switch

[south mantle]

Hey my poll’s done

What good timing

Alias I see you maining the D1100

Stand your ground

[floral pebble]

I just wanted my own option to feel special

Nobody's actually going to buy the rp4flip

[fossil timber]

Yeah that was a weird choice to bring back the 4 chipset. My guess is they either had alot of spare chips lying around, or else this option makes more sense for the asian market

[wicked oracle]

Does anyone have an idea how MHGU will run on the flip 2? Comparing it to the Steam Deck

[wooden phoenix]

Since they finally ended their rp4p sales I'll guess it's to dump remaining stock. Even if flip d1100 sales are minor it's probably more than the rp4p at this point in life cycle.

[fossil timber]

that does impy that Retroid is basically building handhelds to order though. Otherwise I would not think they would have a bunch of chips just lying around to spare.

[wooden phoenix]

The chip isn't new. Ask someone with an rp5. Lol

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1344867829953855488

There ya go

[wooden phoenix]

That's why their pre-order period takes so long. They don't produce anything until it goes live.

[echo dawn]

Just ordered the GC Flip 2 as a pocketable sibling to my Odin 2 ☺️ (with the lanyard, naturally 😂)

[hushed shadow]

I’ve had 3 DHL deliveries from Retroid in the last 2 weeks (poor planning, painful I know) and no duties or delays

[wooden phoenix]

That all depends on the country you reside in

[fossil timber]

I am super tempted to sell my O2 mini pro and get a transparent blue flip 2 because I am all about that clamshell life

[lilac sable]

oh so i notice they take full payment right away

[wooden phoenix]

This would be tempting to me as well. Because it's transparent and my mini is my only non transparent device. But I absolutely wouldn't do it for an untested retroid pre-order 😅

[lilac sable]

im so used to payment when shipped lmao

[echo dawn]

Well mine is the Odin 2 Pro (not the mini) which will be my house device, and the Flip 2 will be my out the house device

[wooden phoenix]

But I have a clip shield so I can take it anywhere. And a vinyl skin complete wrap so I don't worry about it

[fossil timber]

I totally get that, for me I would be replacing my out of house device. Just need to get emulators on my steamdeck like I have been planning to do for months first

[echo dawn]

Easiest method nowadays is RetroDeck for that

[wooden phoenix]

That's how I feel about my ally. I tried emudeck but for me it's a cluster fuck. Might just use retrobat. So much easier to go into the software to do stuff. Although that's not an option on the deck

After putting 4tb in it I have plenty of space 🤣

[hushed shadow]

I’m trying hard to not preorder…must…stay…strong….

[hybrid viper]

$10 isn't worth any issue this thing might have

Stay strong brother

[fossil timber]

I have a 1.5 tb sd card in my steamdeck. Which has 512 gigs of storage as is
Man I have a problem, and the problem is wanting to hoard data but do so on a budget

[hushed shadow]

If they had done sfc colorway id be a lost cause but think im gonna make it

[wooden phoenix]

I've debated throwing a 1.5 SD card in it but...ally. 🤣

[echo dawn]

I have the 2TB in my Odin 2 to be fair 😂

[wooden phoenix]

Although it wasn't recently warranty repaired with a new mobo. So maybe it's safe

[wooden phoenix]

I have a 1.5 in mine. Thought about a 2tb but still so expensive.

[echo dawn]

Was half price on Black Friday so gave in

[wooden phoenix]

I'd have bitten on that as well. Lol. I just looked this week. Not worth it to me yet

[echo dawn]

1.5 is still big enough but now it’s starting to support PS3 content that extra 500GB on mine will get swallowed

[wooden phoenix]

Yeah. You add in PS3. Wiiu. Starts seeming like not enough real quick

My mini can't do Linux...yet 😞

Only reason I'm almost tempted to snatch up another Odin 2. But I could just stop being lazy and do it on my ally.

[echo dawn]

No but RPCS3 is now Alpha 4 on Android so won’t need Linux eventually. And from what I saw Xemu runs shockingly on it anyway.

[wooden phoenix]

I'll have to start paying attention. I do need to trim down my PS2 and switch games on it though. 😅

So many I added just for testing that I'll never play

Now if they could fix vita emulation. Vita3k or whatever is an abortion of a product

[echo dawn]

Yeah Vita3K is still early days, but I’ve got Wipeout and a couple of others running well on it

[hushed shadow]

My ocd says I must have complete libraries, but thankfully I dint need to carry them all with me

I’m gonna need to expand my nas to deal with my latest rom collecting relapse though

[jolly kayak]

No screen protector for the flip 2??

[lilac sable]

Yeah I was looking for that

[echo dawn]

I thought that, but I guess the clamshell is its protection most of the time. They’ll appear on Ali eventually

[hybrid viper]

Nah bro you got the wrong kind of OCD, you need to have the kind that only stores good games

[lilac sable]

I have extra switch lite and generic 5.5” screen protectors. I’ll try those

[hybrid viper]

Unless it's 8 and 16 bit because those file sizes are so small you might as well throw on the whole library

[echo dawn]

I became selective at disc based onwards effectively

[hybrid viper]

Flip 2 would use the same screen protector as the rp5

https://www.goretroid.com/collections/accessories/products/rp5-screen-protector

[jolly kayak]

That doesn't work xD

[lilac sable]

Uh

[echo dawn]

Not when it fits around the buttons etc

[hybrid viper]

Hmmm seems you're right

[echo dawn]

They’ll come out on AliExpress 3rd party within weeks

[south mantle]

I mean

It could work

[hybrid viper]

I'm sure they'll make one eventually probably just an oversight

[south mantle]

Turn your Flip 2 into a plane with those glass wings

[echo dawn]

It’s whether the design of it would close properly or effect the recessed sticks with one on

[lilac sable]

It acts like a bookmark

Now where was I…. Oh yes

See how convenient that is

[hybrid viper]

You could definitely bust out a pair of scissors and make it work for sure

But you would be better off buying a generic screen protector instead

[lilac sable]

Uh

[echo dawn]

With glass?

[lilac sable]

He’s 0-2 right now lol

Or maybe he’s joking

[hybrid viper]

It's late and I'm tired...

[jolly kayak]

$267 to Retroid. May i regret this

[lilac sable]

Only?

[echo dawn]

We may, but hopefully we may not

[lilac sable]

https://tenor.com/view/offering-raya-raya-and-the-last-dragon-oferenda-ofrenda-gif-20147115

[jolly kayak]

Yeh with DHL. Flip 2, case, and lanyard.

[lilac sable]

No classic?!

[echo dawn]

As long the screen is as advertised and that hinge does its job well, we should be all good

[lilac sable]

That’s the big savings!

I kid I kid

[jolly kayak]

I am trying to temper myself 🙂

I seriously just want to play GBA on an oled clamshell

I was so close to buying RP5 but then the flip2 rumors came out

[hybrid viper]

Clamshell is the ultimate form

[echo dawn]

The only interesting choice they’ve made is sticking with Android 13 while the Classic uses 14. Hopefully an update comes eventually.

[south mantle]

Yes

The fact more aren’t on the market is a travesty

[echo dawn]

Does the version of Android 13 Retroid use allow multiple profiles? So that you could keep saves separate from each other?

[lilac sable]

https://tenor.com/view/ariel-princess-ariel-the-little-mermaid-little-mermaid-disney-gif-25423314

[wooden phoenix]

You know how this works right? Or are you tired from a long day as well? 😅

[mystic void]

Who preordered

[hybrid viper]

Unda da USB C

[echo dawn]

It’s 2:47am here so yes 😂

[wooden phoenix]

Retroid chooses the chip. And you get what's available to it. 865 JUST got 13. The other chip isn't old so it gets better treatment

[jolly kayak]

Anyone else read the website url and sometimes go "Gore Troid? Wtf is that"

[echo dawn]

Ah yes true

[wintry oxide]

Yup, Classic has newer chip = newer Android

[wooden phoenix]

Literally what I just said 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wintry oxide]

That's why I said yup in agreement

[fast sonnet]

I've done it

[echo dawn]

Well 13 on other devices can handle multiple users, but not sure if Retroid activate it

[tacit latch]

thank you Brian

[lilac sable]

you've redeemed yourself

[lilac sable]

way to go, Brian!

[floral pebble]

It'd be cool if retroid showed how many pre-orders there are like igg

[echo dawn]

I didn’t opt for the case personally cause A: it’s clam should protect it and B: it’d want a purple case to match the console ideally

[jolly kayak]

I'm crossing my fingers. I'm a gentle giant with all of my devices so I doubt the hinge will give me issues. I just hope everything else is done to the tee.

[lilac sable]

to induce fomo?

[jolly kayak]

But you can never have enough cases 🙂

[lilac sable]

i just got it cause its just $10

[hybrid viper]

Joey says less people than usual are buying from his referral, the recent drama has probably made a dent

[lilac sable]

ill find a nicer one later

[wintry oxide]

I went for the case because I will want it when I do toss it in a bag, but yeah, purple would have been nice

[floral pebble]

Mostly I'm curious whether flip or classic is winning

[lilac sable]

i did the referal here i think.. thats RH right?

[echo dawn]

Yeah a purple case will presumably pop up somewhere in the end

[lilac sable]

https://tenor.com/view/winner-wrestling-game-gif-9852967

[jolly kayak]

Is there any bonus to buying from referrals?

[lilac sable]

you support the dudes

[jolly kayak]

Ah

Just RGC for me

[hybrid viper]

Somebody shows up on a scooter at your house and gives you a cool thumbs up

[jolly kayak]

If they had a solid yellow classic I think I'd crack

But the pokemon thing is ugly imo

Classic is also 1:1 ?

[lilac sable]

no

wait

1:1 for what

[south mantle]

Supposedly if I wanted a travel case for the Flip 2, even tho it’s a clamshell and a case kinda isn’t really necessary, could I just get a DS variant case?

The Retorid one is kinda boring

[wintry oxide]

Maybe the winners are the friends we made along the way? ... 🤔 ... Nah, Retroid da winner if the CEO gets his house back

[jolly kayak]

Screen aspect ratio

[lilac sable]

what happened to his house

[lilac sable]

no

[hybrid viper]

Can't say for certain without the dimensions, the retroid pocket listing doesn't have the dimensions as far as I can see. You probably could though, they tend to make them slightly roomier than they need to be

[lilac sable]

8:7

[jolly kayak]

I got these austor cases but I feel like retroid case will fit triggers better

[lilac sable]

or 31:27

[jolly kayak]

Is 8:7 a specific system?

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[jolly kayak]

Dimtons killed chat

[lilac sable]

its not available on there yet tho

[south mantle]

I know we got Flip 2 dimensions in that one post

[lilac sable]

and who knows how much markup retroid will put on aliexpress

[hybrid viper]

Yeah you're right we could just compare the flip 2 dimensions to the DS case dimensions

[south mantle]

Makes sense👍

Ima go look around then

[wintry oxide]

I'm joking, I think he just took out extra credit for a loan against his house to finance a new custom screen for the rpmini revision

[lilac sable]

or buy the $10 one now, and buy nice etsy one later?

[south mantle]

I might pick up some new earbuds too

[jolly kayak]

Does retroid's case smell like delicious chemicals?

Like all the amazon ones do

[south mantle]

I didn’t even think to check Etsy👀👀

[lilac sable]

super nice ones for rp5 there

[south mantle]

Sometimes Etsy comes in clutch with super nice custom things

[floral pebble]

Are you going to buy the retroid ones?

[south mantle]

Nah

[lilac sable]

retroid has earbuds?

[south mantle]

Aren’t those like $10 earbuds??

Like literally?

[jolly kayak]

It's an important question yall. Do retroid's cases have a chemical scent? Like rubber.

[lilac sable]

$15. cant be good

[south mantle]

My Flip 2 case

[jolly kayak]

Everytime I see those earbuds

[lilac sable]

how big is the flip2 compared to ds?

did someone make a pic

[south mantle]

Hey my other poll finished

[floral pebble]

It has gotta be thicker, especially around the triggers

[lilac sable]

since its a clamshell, maybe i can just get away with a slip-on case?

like the psp

im currently using a switch lite slip-on case as my rp5 case

[south mantle]

When I see people holding the RP5, it seems pretty small

[lilac sable]

yeah, amazing screen to body ratio imo

i have a pocket air and i still got a rp5

[jolly kayak]

Theres no way this thing sits flat in a DS or 3DS XL case

It has a slight door hinge angle

[lilac sable]

a cheese wedge

a door stopper

[south mantle]

Any recommendations for nicer earbuds?

They aren’t very big tho

[jolly kayak]

Damn. Now I'm debating on if i want to swap the black for SNES to match my 3ds xl

[jolly kayak]

It's still a tiny bit of extra pressure you don't want

Retroid case will have indentation

[south mantle]

That is true tho

I think we can change the name of the channel now tho

[lilac sable]

just buy $10 one now, etsy later. cmon

[south mantle]

Nahhh I don’t need a case

[lilac sable]

i mean, look at this thing
https://i.etsystatic.com/39242573/r/il/973188/6617637732/il_1588xN.6617637732_6klc.jpg

[south mantle]

That is neat

[jolly kayak]

I am once again a contrarian and strongly dislike plastic cases

[lilac sable]

i was about to buy it, but now ill wait to buy for the flip instead

[jolly kayak]

I love stuff like JSAUX.

[wintry oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joker-batman-batman-1966-cesar-romero-shock-gif-11626382673024020612

I might need one of those redesigned for flip 2 later

https://tenor.com/view/kat-gif-26230310

[lilac sable]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1864798665

[severe ridge]

https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Lightweight-Comfortable-resistant-JVC/dp/B003AIL2H4/?th=1

[jolly kayak]

I like momentum 4s for gaming

[south mantle]

I appreciate it, but I do have some clip styles already for my work. My old one’s falling out was a real pain. I’m mainly looking for some traditional in-ears

[jolly kayak]

I've been using bose qc IIs for my phone for 1.5 years now

[south mantle]

I was looking at them or whatever iteration they’re on now

[jolly kayak]

Best noise cancelation I've ever experienced, working at a place that has air pumps working all day.

They're pretty finicky though, I usually have to hard reset them every week or two.

Just holding the reset button for 30seconds

[south mantle]

I gotcha

I’m prob gonna start doing my rounds of watching YouTube reviews

Sorting through paid reviews is a hassle tho

[lilac sable]

what about these
https://www.amazon.ca/Koss-KSC75-Portable-Stereophone-Headphones/dp/B0006B486K

[south mantle]

Rtings.com is helpful tho

[wintry oxide]

Lol, just checked my order email and noticed another email shortly after it says my credit score changed 😅

[south mantle]

Yeaaa I’m just looking for tru-wireless ones. I have some clip-ons for work already.

[lilac sable]

ah

[south mantle]

Dude in the marketing looks cool tho

[south mantle]

Uhhhhhh

[jolly kayak]

For me I ended up ordering a few that I narrowed it down to on Amazon and doing a try out

[south mantle]

I mean so long as you pay it off I don’t know why they caring you like that🥲

[jolly kayak]

There are no other earbuds on the market that do wing tips like bose

[lilac sable]

welp. time to play more suikoden 2

[foggy belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/birdman-hand-rub-thinking-dance-gif-17449632

Alright, who's gonna be my backup plan and sell their Flip 2?

[wintry oxide]

Falling for scams like this, they can't trust me anymore! 😱

[south mantle]

Sorry putting all my marbles in the Flip 2. Don’t got another handheld besides what’s coming in the mail now🙃

[south mantle]

Nahhhh Retroid never does sketchy stuff. 100% reputable

[wintry oxide]

Wait until someone realizes they can't afford the Nintendo Switch 2 anymore

[hybrid viper]

Make sure you get at least six double beat runes from the blade rabbits at the mist valley at the beginning of the game, otherwise it's a long time until you can farm them

Playing that myself as well

[wintry oxide]

I know what those words mean individually, but not all together like that 🤔

[foggy belfry]

Nah not yours, go forth and game. You are not afflicted with the sickness.

[hushed shadow]

4. lobby retroid for a limited edition cow spotted flip2 a la Gateway

[south mantle]

I mean

Not a bad idea

[jolly kayak]

Usually a month before devices get sent to customers?

So like May I can expect to play?

[mystic void]

Time to drunk order an rp flip 2 /s

[severe ridge]

they sold those dumb skins for the rp5, might as well do some for the flip2 and have one be a cow pattern

[worn pike]

huh, no screen protector?

[worn pike]

what color yall going. they all seem kinda nice. hmm

[coral valley]

When I do pick one up probably black or ice blue

[worn pike]

ice blue looks dope yea, but i like rgb and that might defuse weird

[coral valley]

I kind of hope it lights up the shell or something

[jolly kayak]

I went black but kinda wanna switch to snes

[coral valley]

All of the colors look really good imo

[south mantle]

GameCube. It’s the only real option

[coral valley]

Overplayed lowkey

[jolly kayak]

Gamecube one is ugliest :p

[south mantle]

Nahhhh

How am I supposed to emulate Double Dash with one of the other colors?

[jolly kayak]

This + rp flip 2 snes?

Or maybe rp flip 2 should match steam deck instead

[coral valley]

I want to see them irl, but right now my ranking from best to worst is

1. Black
2. Ice blue
3. Snes
4. Gamecube

[south mantle]

I want my Flip 2 to look like a toy

GC achieves that

Plus if I’m gonna use a clamshell in public, ima go all out

Everyone’s gonna know

[coral valley]

Something about the purple looks slightly off idk what it is

[worn pike]

so i got out a ruler.... this dimensions wise is... just like a thicker version of my samsung ultra phone? its kinda what i want from a travel device lol.

i love my odin 2 portal, but my god i can't bring this outside unless i bring like a bag bag

doesn't fit my jacket pocket great

or my smaller slings

ill wait for reviews/impressions tho

its retroid. who the heck knows what wacky surprise

who has a flip 1 here.

are the L1/R1 comfortable to reach?

seems jammed behind the screen

which could be annoying

do we know when review units are going out?

[jolly kayak]

Should shorter than samsung ultra phones

[south mantle]

Kirby Air Ride on the Flip 2 is gonna be awesome😏

[icy bramble]

Guys, if you're about to pre-order, you must STOP RIGHT THERE. I'm just getting word that Retroid MAY in the FUTURE have a device with a more powerful chip than the Flip 2! it could have other differences too, like a different screen, different buttons, or maybe a different form factor entirely! Just saying, if you wanna be smart, save your money for what's NEXT.

[hard raptor]

You raise a good point.

[chilly hollow]

Counterpoint: if you always save your money for what's next, there's always going to be a next next thing. Sometimes it's good to enjoy something now.

(not saying anyone should rush to buy anything in particular, but the argument that something else better might come out is silly since something else better will ALWAYS eventually come out.)

[fathom geyser]

I’ve been waiting for pocketable gamecube since the gamecube came out. I’m waiting 2 months to see if ppl say it’s reliable then I’m copping

I’m not gonna feel fomo for a device that could may or may not be in my hands in over a year when I j simply want a reliable pocketable gamecube man

[hard raptor]

I'm sure this is has been talked about ad nauseum, but aside from the hinge... it's a RP5, right?

[fathom geyser]

Depends on if you get the 865 or the D1100. I don’t think they’re selling/shipping the D1100’s until later though

But a few other differences. The hybrid home/back button is one of em’ (🤢)

[hard raptor]

865 is what I was planning.

Not sure what the button issue is.

[sacred kindle]

rp3+ deja vu?

[south mantle]

But I still don’t have a handheld at all😢

[icy bramble]

You! Must! Stop!

||I'm joking BTW||

[south mantle]

Nah I know😁

Message received

Cancelling preorder now

[left turret]

what is your portable emulation device

[south mantle]

Uhhhhh the Flip 2 in a month or so???

[arctic scaffold]

when's the preorder i feel a sudden urge to buy 5

maybe 10, 5 of each chip

[south mantle]

I mean ig you could count my phone 13 mini, but Apple no like JIT😒

[fathom geyser]

It won’t be an issue for everyone, but it’s def a downside when they had space to have separate buttons for home and menu like they did for previous consoles. Hell the original flip had mappable buttons, which even tho some complained about where they were located, being able to have simple hotkeys is welcomed

[left turret]

i might buy flip 2 until it broke then flip 5 comes out

[south mantle]

Cows or no cows btw

[south mantle]

Me ignoring all the warnings about pre-ordering the Flip 2 because I don’t have a handheld yet

[kind ridge]

Ignore the haters, Flip 2 looks sweet

-# i also ordered one

[odd oyster]

It's nice, no doubt about it, but I decided to wait for a version with newer chip. 865 is 4 years old already..

[kind ridge]

Mighty fine chipset for GC and PS2 which is the most I'll use it for

[odd oyster]

true, Its fine for those, though not perfect. But its enough for most, no doubt

[south mantle]

I see a lot of RP5 videos where it handles Wii well too

[kind ridge]

Makes sense since Wii is just a skinny GameCube with bells on

[icy bramble]

I'm led to believe Wii is pretty much perfect????

Outside of that it seems like native games also only end up targeting up to that power level, so idk if it's that much of a risk to get it for games that exist right now rather than hold off even longer just to run some immature Switch emulator 10% better.

And that's assuming they make a Flip with the new "kinda good" snapdragon chip they just talked about.

[tranquil elbow]

I wouldnt mind a 8gen2 retroid handheld, but the cheapest one is 300 dollars right now, and I dont really need all that power for the games I usually play

but it would be nice if the price went down to what a RP5 costs now, there's some android games that run really well on it (I have it on my tablet) and it'd be nice

like ZZZ or HSR

[scenic relic]

I decided to avoid the classic, at least flip 2 is a revision hehe

[uncut knoll]

I will wait for the reviews first

And probably the reviews could be release at the end of the month

[vital belfry]

Even if it were to fit, i don’t think there’s enough clearance to avoids the sticks touch the screen.

A screen protectors would ultimately close the distance between screen and controls

[tranquil elbow]

still confused why people would want a screen protector on a clamshell

what are you guys doing to your handhelds

[vital belfry]

Exactly

[echo lynx]

What bout the first question

[vital belfry]

Probably a yes

[vital belfry]

I take back what I said

[echo lynx]

Actually 1984

[rigid thicket]

Sucks but it makes sense.

[cyan seal]

I didn't pre order the Flip 2, but I did buy a Rg35xx SP for $40.

So my Flip FOMO has been sated

[tranquil elbow]

35sp is an amazing handheld

and it could always be worse. You could've bought a Miyoo flip

[cyan seal]

I have a MM+, it's great. I'd consider the Miyoo Flip after a few revisions. We're on rev 2, right?

I've already spent a bit too much this month, and next month I'm killing the pig on a few Super7 kits for my Switches

At least I assume next month lol

[cyan seal]

So legit, my 2DS XL is getting marks on the top display from the buttons. So I can see the benefit of a screen protector in this case.

[cyan seal]

I know ZZZ has controller support on Android, I started playing it. Does Honkai SR?

[cyan seal]

Based

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah it does

[sage moat]

What color did yall get in stuck between 16 bit and transparent

I just don't know if I trust transparent plastic hinges enough 😕

[cyan seal]

I do plan on getting a Flip2 for sure, so probably GC or 16-bit

I like the sentiment above where if you’re gonna get a colorway, go big and get the GC

But the gray 16 bit looks super clean. I’d probably swap the buttons too.

Like with matching gray buttons to go for a super slick look

I also would probably swap all the buttons on the GC to light gray, same with the right stick

I’m hoping Retroid sells replacement buttons

Lmao I still have replacement buttons lying around for my Odin2 that I still need to install

[sweet shuttle]

are you the guy who had the luigi bikini pfp

[lilac sable]

did they ship my order yet

[weak fulcrum]

yeah check your mailbox

[gentle badge]

No that’s jigg

[vital belfry]

yes that's him

[sweet shuttle]

pffff

[left turret]

[hard raptor]

Playing in high wind situations.

[sweet shuttle]

I had to double take because Jigg is the main guy I know of in here with a cursed pfp

[vital belfry]

I can change it to this instead if it makes you feel more comfortable

[echo lynx]

Hello everybody my name is welcome

[supple skiff]

I just saw this, I'm considering retirement now

[lilac sable]

Wow it’s here!

[uncut knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/god-is-dead-hes-gone-dead-god-is-gone-james-purefoy-gif-15728201

[lilac sable]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-radioactive-man-ny-eyes-goggles-do-nothing-gif-12845538

[tacit gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[vital belfry]

I'd say I'm sorry but I'm not

[fluid stone]

Tits-a-me

[tacit latch]

nice udders

[south mantle]

Nah I was just joking. I don’t even want a screen protector on my clamshell. I just thought the idea of glass wings on the Flip 2 from using the RP5 screen protector was funny

[south mantle]

U get it

[jolly kayak]

The issue i have with 16 bit is rgb looks kind of meh on it

Black utilizes rgb very well. And it'll match steam deck

When do reviews usually go up?

[gentle badge]

the easy fix for any rgb is to turn it off

[lilac sable]

i used to be all in on rgb. but have since just turned off

[jolly kayak]

I hope they all have the same finish

I hate when devices have different finishes and induce fomo

[south mantle]

RGB is massively overrated. If I had to do my desktop over again, I’d buy all parts with no RGB

[strange ivy]

But flashy lights make me game faster

[south mantle]

The irony of sending RGB Vegeta is not lost on me

[dreamy patio]

i built my new computer with all rgb to see how different it was to no rgb and its actually such a mess and pain dealing with so many cables

never again

[south mantle]

It’s also lovely when you can’t figure out how to disable a piece of RGB

[blazing burrow]

Team NoBezel wins

[coral hound]

I'm still surprised how close it was in the end

[lilac sable]

did you use fans that can connect and link to each other? or fans with individual pwm and argb headers?

[lilac sable]

OpenRGB/SignalRGB

[south mantle]

Doesn’t work

[lilac sable]

wow

[south mantle]

The RGB is tied to the power connector

It’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen

[lilac sable]

oh wait, are you talking about a handheld or pc?

[south mantle]

But I refuse to spend more money on something else

[south mantle]

Desktop

[lilac sable]

ive never had a rgb i couldnt control

using those two programs

[south mantle]

I looked into it, and it’s the way that this AIO is specifically set up

Is what it is, unfortunately. I do keep my desktop under my desk though, so I don’t actually see it thankfully.

[south mantle]

See I liked the idea of doing this for about 15 minutes until I realized that I find it so extremely distracting

[lilac sable]

it was fun at the time. i just leave it off now lol

[south mantle]

To give an example, I don’t even like putting weapon charms on guns because it annoys me seeing it in the corner of my eye

So a whole laser light show definitely wasn’t gonna make the cut🙃

[lilac sable]

my next build is no rgb

external radiator

[south mantle]

External??

Hm

Now what

Does getting higher end SD cards actually matter for these handhelds?

Also what would be a good idea to store on the actual drive in the handheld?

[strange ivy]

Speed wise, probably not. But I still do use faster SD cards anyway. Quicker to copy over ROMs

[south mantle]

I gotcha. I got some new earbuds and will probably get an SD card to go with my Flip 2

[jolly kayak]

Does retroid work with any usb c charger?

Their discord is useless for getting dev answers xD

[south mantle]

I mean I don’t see why it wouldn’t?

[jolly kayak]

I just wanna make sure I don't melt my device

[south mantle]

I mean I would think as long as you use a quality cord and base, you should be fine

[jolly kayak]

Like Anker?

[south mantle]

I know it’s supposed to be a good brand. Although I think they had some data privacy issues a year or so ago

Maybe a couple now

[jolly kayak]

Yeh I heard about data issues but that was about their cameras

[south mantle]

Kinda unrelated to performance of the product tho

[jolly kayak]

They ain't taking data out of my power brick xD

[south mantle]

That you know of👀👀

[jolly kayak]

Bro

I would willingly give data to someone that can figure out how to quitely take data from an outlet

[south mantle]

Anker base secretly has a chip inside that streams data collected from the Type C cable straight to their evil corpo servers

[jolly kayak]

Send data over 50,000 amp lines

Do RP5 buttons fit the flip 2?

[south mantle]

Not sure if there’s confirmation for that, but swapping is something they talked about with the Flip 2 itself

[jolly kayak]

Mmm.

Okay

I'll have to email them about that

[jolly kayak]

I'm really torn on black vs snes now

If I were to get a Mini or an RP5, definitely black no questions asked

For maximum screen immersion at night

But idk about a flip

I think I prefer the black borders on 2DS XL at night over the grey bars of 3DS XL at night

[tacit gorge]

as an og flip owner i can tell you black is the way to go in that regard.

[fathom geyser]

The only difference might be the opaque from the transparent. Usually the transparent feels a little grippier, less glossy and less smooth

[jolly kayak]

I hope the solid colors are like the RP4P texture

[lilac sable]

is it too late to cancel?

[strange ivy]

Yes