#Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)
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Oh yeah he was getting all kinds of flack
Don't blame him.
He is missed in the chat for sure
I've had so many conversations with that guy, seemed really solid š¦
Honestly that's a job we should give to AI. Lol
lol we DO deserve that don't we
Both that. And if it gets depressed they can turn it off and turn it back on
Something a human shouldn't have to suffer
Sounds like a speedrun for the AI uprising š
Imagine how angry and twisted AI would get if they were all assigned CS roles.
Game over, man, game over
Think we're more likely to see Idiocracy before Terminator
I had a GPD XD where the analogs were in a similar spot. Never bothered me. I still think the lack of a 6 buttons is a shame, given all the space available.
Already in it
Too late
I feel like so many missteps in society lately have already been covered in books š
Yeah. I don't think the transition from Idiocracy to Terminator is a viable one
If AI learns from us it's gonna be dumb as shit
We've gotten through worse
More like Idiocracy to Matrix. Our computer overlords still need our meatbags for some things.
I dunno. World leader shilling Teslas in capitals parking lot...
There's at least no draft yet
"There's no conflict of interest"
Til we invade Canada
Maybe AI can fix the Mini lol
"Buy new device"
Consooome
*takes hammer "fixed it"
Nvm too edgy
Reviews for the Flip2 are only allowed in Cow onsies, remind Russ plz āļø
wasn't it a cow bikini
that would get flagged by Youtube
Haha. I saw it!
I understand tho
Hopefully we can all agree to just fire our guns in the air and report back a stalemate
Purple flip button swap
Well I like it better without the yellow stick
isn't there a full grey button set among the RP5/RP4 buttons?
Nu uh
I want all black with skittle buttons
But I'll do that myself me thinks, assuming RP5 buttons?
They need to sell DIY kits so we can mix and match parts.
Do it you cowards
Only saw this
Yes a few extra button sets in the diy section would be nice
Like dmg, skittles and grey
alright everyone, cow rule has been lifted, post your wildest political takes now
food and shelter is a human right
Tony Blair should resign
Men don't wear enough hats these days
Looks way better imo
Kanye is pretty cool, I don't care for his music though
Poor Bam
Welp guess Iām getting a gc flip 2 and opening it up lol
That would look great honestly
No preorders site?
They make any mention of limited number of preorders?
use your imagination
Retroid doesn't do limited number of units because you pay first, they make them later
ah, you mean the preorder discount, idk lol
usually the preorder discount applies indefinitely until they start shipping
I gotcha
The better this device is the better the super SP is
whats the super SP
only if you can pay for it 
That Kirby fears politics
Every single time politics are mentioned it gains so much weight from all that popcorn
Shh donāt say that too loud people get mad when you speak facts
buy it, throw it onto your shelf, buy the next, repeat
I just look at cover art and never start the games
You forgot one, post a photo to Reddit every time you get a new one to humble brag.
You guys are gonna make that controllers person cry
Configure emulators to run perfect, game by game, buy a different device and do it all again
Yay me
I mean, if it keeps you entertained...
I also buy all the accessories for the handhelds I never use š
I think some of the people in this hobby just need to buy Legos or something
A lot of people just treat the handhelds like construction kits anyway
I don't think there's any shame in realizing you're more of a tinkerer than a gamer. Tinkerers occasionally build useful things, repair stuff. It's called growing up, you just aren't really intending to do it but life.... Uh... Finds a way....
But my Legos don't occasionally play snes
Close enough
Have you seen the price of lego sets though?
Handhelds are the financially responsible route
Idk man, those ewaste aliexpress handhelds start to add up
If someone gets addicted to buying those $1000 micro pcs then yea
The mini pc thing has never made much sense to me
It's like if you took a pc handheld and made it less cool in every aspect
If you travel a lot or have kids, I guess. But I think it's the nerd equivalent of cute and smol for a lot of tech people
The cheaper mini PCs can be a pretty hefty upgrade for older folks/casual people.
That you can tuck them in by your TV like a console is a nice bonus too.
But yeah, for enthusiasts they don't make sense really.
I travel very, very light so I'm constantly tempted to get one but so far tablets work well enough for me
I don't think they make as much sense for travel since you're better off with a tablet/laptop.
Or I guess potentially a handheld PC these days.
Built in screen and input options are kind of a must for travel.
Have this in my build queue, working on the question mark block slowly now though!
Tinkering is probably the equivalent of having a toy car when you're at a young age and you decide to break it open just to see what's inside
And then you're done lol
On to opening up a different toy
Where I live, if you can do basic handyman home repairs for old ladies, you will never starve. What seems like trivial knowledge can add up when it relates to irl sh*t people need, unlike, say, having a photographic memory of roblox lore
That's decent money right there
Where I live, having basic computer knowledge forever curses you to be the "computer guy" for everyone in a 15km range
"can you fix my printer?"
"no, I dont even know how one looks inside"
"but you're good with computers!"
I get scammy old people trying to hustle me for computer lessons all the time. They never want to pay for them, ofc, just assume I'm going to dedicate 30 hours over a month so they can learn to rip people off on ebay or whatever
I did try once. Gave up when the guy couldn't understand what a cursor or text box was and started yelling at the librarian unfortunate enough to try to help
I refuse to give computer lessons haha
"What's my password?"
I gave physics lessons and programming lessons but teaching how to use chrome to an 80yo, nah
I'd like to see a pic of the Flip 2 with the lid completely closed, to better see the top lid design
teaching one is easy teaching one is hard
the physics is easy obviously
not gonna lie...........i like the six button classic more than the flip
but why no stick haiyaaaa
would have been perfect for n64
Classic 2, 2026 lol
Right. I'm waiting.
I really hope the gaudy design on top was just for the render and that it'll just be smooth.
...or at least not as obnoxious.
Same
I don't want to feel that in my pocket
Dang, D11 version did drop below RP5 price. They cut it close.
And about the same price as the 4pro
But with oled
Yeah because they put their remaining stock of d1100 into the flip 2. Hence the selling out of remaining rp4p lol
Easier to move the chip with the new device than hope someone wants the old one.
You wouldn't feel that lol. It's not like it sticks out .5 inches. Calm down
"That's what" - She
Did anyone actually get the Retroid headphones? Seems like a funny thing to have
I can't ever use in ear with posts. They look silly and feel awful
as someone who also hates things in their ears
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Thanks for the recommendation. I use Pixel Bud Pros and Anker Soundcore Space A40's. In ear is fine, just can't do the posts
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I got these and they're amazing for the price
i hate having things over my ears, although i have a bunch of iems
do get some memory foam buds though
the silicon ones that come with them suck (like most of them)
for me the top ones are bullet shaped ones although you lose on sound quality
kbear little q, kbear dumpling, kz linglong
i wouldn't mind having a hundred of each
Probably. I didn't actually look up what they were. š¤£
they are nice if you buy tws mainly for calls
but if you just wanna listen to music dont dont really need them
I feel like there are earbuds for every single use case nowadays, so you'll easily find better alternatives
I can't decide between blue or SNES
I also might get a Classic 6 if it has a touchscreen
So wait. When is it?
it does
Yeah, it's a pretty bad typo - they meant that is their lunch time and they're still not telling us when we can order š
these guys workgin so hard they have to schedule their lunch to remember to eat
Pray for Retroid, they're only allowed to eat lunch on the 17th š
That's definitely the one I'd get if the RP5 didn't exist. Still sore about no transparent options because of this stupid glass panel.
We lose Chris and this is what happens
Flip 2 is tempting but I'm waiting for a Flip 3. Its nearly perfect but I must have 120hz screen and atleast Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 for low decoding speed Moonlight game streaming and low input lag. Bonus points for black frame insertion with 120hz display
But what about the Flip 4?
I'll mention it again Snapdragon Gen 2 for low level decoding speed even newer Snapdragon chipset haven't lowered decoding speed below 4ms from SDG2
And 120hz is the refresh rate I'm satisfied with any higher I wouldn't care
Again the additional emulation power doesn't matter to me it's the screen refresh rate and chipset for gamestreaming
Ngl 120 would be nice in a pocketable form factor
If Flip 4 had dual screen or something then yeah that would be an upgrade but after 120hz and SD Gen 2 I don't know where else we can go from there
One thing to note with Flip 2 is think 4:3 games would look better than RP5 because the black bars wouldn't be between the game controls
Absolutely, I've experienced that on the Flip 1
Black RP5/Minis have the immersion advantage but with a clamshell It doesn't matter what color you choose
SD gen 2 for 200$
So wait. It's not when we can order?
What is it? Like a stage show?
Gonna get the Retroid dancers up there?
Would be pretty funny
I do like that they truly aren't a Chinese company unless there is one typo in each infographic
Starting to think they add one back in
They also made another typo in their Chinese pricing graphic š
They are Easter eggs lol
I'm almost convinced at this point
"They won't believe it came from us unless we change this word here"
I'd rather wait for the Flip 5 with dual 144hz screens
You're all wrong, I'm waiting for the flip 9 with holographic custom resizable screens, quantum supercomputer capabilities and magic cooling
Ok but do the screens scale correctly
Of course not, Retroid devices always need some kind of unnecessary flaw
*The hinge on the Flip 9 not submittable for warranty
It's like how scam calls intentionally have bad grammar since people who don't question it are more likely to fall for them.
Raaaah super SP!!!!
Super tempted to grab one of these and sell off my O2mini pro if it doesnt have the typical Retroid issues at launch.
that's quite a downgrade
The price is nice.
Better screen than the mini
Not really, consider...
- color
- transparent blue
- I am an idiot when it comes to specific colors
Yeah I meant performance wise, if you like it more it's not a downgrade obv
I have seen that performance is generally very similar in the gamcube PS2 range between the 5 and Odin series, though I have not done any research into things to see how different they are. Largely because I didnt want to tempt myself into buying another device when the 5 came out.
Is RP Flip 2 confirmed OLED and also do we know the price yet
its the same screen as the rp5
Bezels really donāt seem that bad on those renders
Super excited to get a GC color
Outside of any incompatibility issues, they are not that similar, the gpu on the odin 2 mini is roughly 3x as powerful as the 865 according to nanoreview
They appear to be the same, but further inset to account for the clamshell design.
Hmm
Who's going to buy the D1100 model? Snapdragon Cpu is so much better
D1100 would be fine for someone who doesn't care to go past PSP but wants a foldable OLED
Iām not trying to be their marketing guy and ~18% increase in price is worth it regardless
I agree I had to think of a justification 
Unless youāre truly not sure about making the extra $30 jump and donāt need to compatibility/power
The emoji and pfp synchronization is perfect
Right if you don't care about PS2 or gamecube or Switch or linux maybe
lol youāre everywhere rn
It's like how some languages begin and end sentences with punctuation so you can't miss it
Perfect
Switch emulation is a lot better
PS2 emulation is better but mostly for compatability
Itās synthetic benchmarks are the same but sd865 in the real world use case will be stronger
Drivers
Better drivers for performance and Linux support being the main points
As Winlator gets better over time the innate value of the SD865 will increase
Same with Linux based CFW if you prefer that over Android
Maybe if it was a $50 difference it would make it harder to decide
But at the same time I understand why it's a $30 difference
S865 is worth it for drivers and Linux imo
I wonder what accessories will be sold with this
All I need is my clamshell
I want to experience a DS style handheld again, but with modern hardware
I really would like a grip as it did help with the Flip 1. I would purchase it along with the device if it's available during preorder
How comfy/ergonomic do we expect this device to be next to rp5?
I heard rp mini was more comfy than rp5
I expect this to be comfier than the X18s
I just wish retroid went all in on having every button, including volume and power on the inside
The dollar dropped a fair bit vs the pound for me so it looks like it'll be cheaper.... It is tempting
Every part of that is subjective. There is no "we". One person will not feel the same as another. I will find the flip comfy, just like I do the flip 1.
Guaranteed I wouldn't find the mini comfy. I don't even need to hold one.
Was just about to post that lol.
Not a render btw
Still wish they'd done a different transparent color. š
Personally hate blue transparent devices
Youāre making yourself lots of enemies 
i'll get the black and mod it to look like a ps2 clamshell
nah that thing looks fire
i think if i bought one i'd get a black one
with a sober design like it has, i feel it fits it best
I'm going with the purple this time
i do wish the labels on the face buttons were either grey like on the deck, or less bold
Still really love that transparent blue model.
100% the one Iām going for
Their transparent blue never really looks blue to me, same as the rp3+ I got last time.
Prefer Odin 2's blue.
Yeah, it's more of a teal color
Could have done something better than that awful gc colorway. Yeah...I'll take the hate š¤£
i honestly don't like the gc colorway, it was neat on the rp5
i prefer just gba indigo with gray if they're gonna go purple
Google agrees that Retroid has no idea what Ice Blue coloration is
Honestly they could have made it any transparent color and I'd still prefer it over the other options
Seeing the internal components shine through makes for a nice pattern
I agree with the exception of pink
Mmm pie
huh, i thought the speaker grilles were lines and not dots
'honey, what color goes better with this cheesecake'
I'm really curious how it will feel to use the action buttons in that position
Blue or black I canāt decide
You mean renders vs reality. Always differences lol
actually i misremembered and they've been dots from the start
Blue if you're a social person, black if not. Blue will start conversations
Watermelon š
gonna need some back/closed shots too
Black. All in
It's almost concerning that we still haven't gotten any pics of the back so far
It's gonna be flat with trigger bumps. What's the concern?
it had a weird pattern like the first renders of the miyoo mini iirc
It's awful, there's sharp spikes and a moat. Dragons.
It was the only clear color for the of flip, they couldnāt just repeat that š
All look good. But my worry will still be hinge on the clear model. Im sure well tested. But clear models tend to have weaker plastic
Im set in getting US Snes. Missed that with RP5
The only pic I've seen of the lid
So is this set in stone? I hope not
Haha jinx
I don't think that lid will be particularly uncomfy
I just dont like the design on the lid. I hope thats not final
Mid to end of April for flip 2 and mid of April for the classic
What an odd design for the top. Is that used in anything else Retroid related?
I don't really see the appeal either tbh
Im hoping just a place holder for retroid logo
Not yet they might try to establish some sort of defined brand identity
I don't think the design is that bad it's just really weird since they don't use it anywhere else, like it's kind of just a random little shape thing for no reason lol
yeah ew, i remember i didn't like the back
Would rather a clean look tbh
You want me to be honest it's look mad
Especially the logo I don't like that
Fps people might like it but doesn't seem to be the target audience
The fact the design for lid is on their sales page doesnt leave me with much hope
Itās 100% final
ps2 clamshell
Just use some stickers on it ;))
Graphic design is my passion
You can see the 16 bit version has the same design on the lid
I think have the sticker logo is good idea
The quarter part of the circle has ridges like it's a vinyl or something, that's WEIRD
I've tried out the wii u layout with my wii u pro controller today. It is definitely an okay layout. But I've noticed I get much more fatiqued playing stuff like snes than with a controller with both dpads on top
it's kinda strange though
no fatiwue with the wii u gamepad
yeah because that's way chonkier
so I'm still not fully sure if it's going to make playing 2d games harder on the flip 2
russ is not going to point out that it's awkward in anyway even if it is probably
but if he specifically says he doesn't find any discomfort to be present that's a relief
The š° is a lie.
I mean, the RP5 may be a lil more comfortable for those, but I don't think the Wii U layout is bad, especially given the huge inset the controls have on the Flip2 should make this perfectly serviceable
Retroidās out here giving AMD and Nvidia a run for their money with useless charts
lol, what is that graph supposed to show
Efficiency
compared to what, AIR?
I love how the X and Y have no metric
Guess you don't remember the watermelon flip. It was the only flip not prone to failure.
Really lets me use my own imagination
Wait is PayPal the only payment option for Retroid?
that or credit card
Everyone losing their shit about the weird design on the lid when it's not where you look at playing a game. Be thankful it's not in between the controls.š
As usual, people love to complain about the most pointless things š
The black one with a Smash bros as a sticker
Meanwhile idiots on retroid discord discussing the length of the lanyard and if it will be too small. 𤣠We could be worse here
That could work really well
The version of the game cube and snes can work too
if they sold skittles button I'd 100% go for the grey one
but I think Im picking up the GC one cause I find the others boring
and I dont like transparent plastic, I survived that fad in the late 90s/early 2000s, I will fight tooth and nail to avoid bringing it back
I like the SNES color design, but a more SFC-like design with Skittles buttons would be nice.
yeah I have no attachment to the snes cause Im european
so I was hoping for a super famicom/super nintendo colorway, but here we are :(
Iām not familiar with chipsets. How will this compare to other RP devices power wise?
the 1100 is the same as the RP4pro
the snapdragon is the same chip thats in the RP5 and mini
its basically a clamshell rp5
same screen too
Oh wow. Nice. Might have to do the combo when I order my classic. I already have an rp5. So I donāt neeeeeed it. Howeverā¦. I want it. Haha.
isnt that why we buy most stuff
Absolutely haha.
I love getting and tinkering with new tech. I rotate through stuff and sell old units on ebay so it all works out.
Im the same, I like setupping devices more than playing on them
I dont sell though, maybe I should...
It certainly makes things easier for finances and storage. But I have a stockpile of devices I keep neglecting to sell.
but Im a weirdo. When I was a kid I LOVED installing windows 3.11 on my relatives' PCs.
there's something soothing about watching an installer go
dont @ me I know Im weird
Is it just me or does this not say what the bundle coupon is?
It's possible the combo discount is automatic. At least it was with the RP5 and RP Mini preorder combo.
Iām gonna @ you to say Iām right there with you haha.
haha fair
Installing things, setting it up just right, messing with frontends and different things. I love that.
yup same
It's actually a good match for deep blue ice. It's what the underside of an iceberg looks like like
Yeah, I feel that. Especially when you set things up a little differently each time - different launchers, themes, etc.
Just gonna make it more awkward to slide into a pocket
I dont think it'll be so protruding it's gonna make any difference
Any pattern is going to create friction
Is it weird that I kind of like the pac man
I mean unless your pockets stick open like baskets
I do like that there's a pattern, the inside looks flat enough already
What's with the Pac Man logo on the lid ?
I can guarantee you the triggers will be 10x as impactful as a very low rise pattern on the front
Let's hope the the dye on the plastic is through and through. Eventually the raised edges will run or chip through
Depends how you slide it in. Most people downside profile. Trigger doesn't come into contact with lip as much
I thought it was just the original color of the plastic
Originals were
Just get some waka waka waka stickers for the Pac man lid
My black flip 1 had small chips and it was white underneath
Transparent obviously gonna be transparent.
transparent dye
Pretty sure they used dye sublimation
Assuming the cases are PBT or some other color that can take it
Cheaper to make them mixing in color for each batch and then injecting it to just do everything white and color it after
It's also why diff grens models from the same company can have slightly diff colors
That said these could be completely different then the flip 1
makes sense
I wonder if my broken RG35XX-H is dyed too
maybe Ill scratch it just to test it
Haha. Yeah. Having watched a bunch of teardowns sometimes they don't. Or they dye it all the way through.
Interestingly enough PBT won't yellow like other plastics will. Not that it matters for most colored models anyway
Didnt know you can dye all the way through
wouldnt it at that point be the same as having plastic of that color for scratching purposes?
I mean colored plastic itself is dyed
Yeah. But you never really guarantee penetration. And it requires heat. So you run the risk of deforming things after a certain point
I dont think it comes out purple or red or yellow from the oil barrels
I see
maybe if it's deep enough, superficial scratches will still be of the same color at least
Im not super bothered by scratches on the shell anyway
But it's why blacks on plastics are sometimes more really really really dark grey rather than solid black. Like the flip 1 compared to a piano PS3 and you notice it's not a true black black.
Your dying white plastic with black dye. So you never get a really dark black
I only know PBT dye sublimation from keyboard keycaps cause Im a mechanical keyboard freak
and they usually are different colors on the top and bottom, but honestly its pretty hard to scratch a keycap
Aren't we all š
so I dont know if scratches would reveal the underlying color
Just got my Gok Type K finally
I got a bridge75 recently and Im in love
completely stock, I only changed the spacebar stab
Yeah. I don't think scratches would. You'd have to wear it a ton. Chips will if deep enoufh
damn that is an expensive one haha
Haha. Been like 8 years in the making
fair fair
Dude went through like 7 protos
I mean to be honest it was kind of ridiculous. But he was showing it off when I started the hobby. So was a grail of mine
dayum, real life pictures before preorders open, now that's a luxury
choo choo ice blue hype train
other colors look good but they are not ice blue
Other colors look good but they aren't transparent 
Well played sir
THICC
Sooooo still no pictures of anything running on it?
AI renders are getting REALLY good these days
How comfortable is that dpad/face buttons configuration??
I just realized the transparent blue has transparent shoulder buttons š
Didnt see these pics before. Sorry if already posted. Good to see the top that isnt a render. Bottom also a bit odd looking
I actually really like the design honestly, looks better than if it was just flat
Those pics are oddly low-res compared to the earlier ones
That top makes me want to get some bondo and a putty knife out
My only concern with the top is that it won't look like my PK X18S and therefore will have more explaining to do to my wife
Was hoping at first glance they'd be quite similar externally
That top screams "WHERE DID YOU GET THAT?!"
Buy one for both of you. Problem solved
taps side of head meme
Oooo
Screenshotted of YouTube
time to get the sander out
I can't lie it look clean now
Especially ice blue
Damn, is there no higher resolution on YT?
If you really want higher res you can contact support or ping David
Looks more boxy from behind than I expected
Like that just looks like an rp2 from behind, but with weird bricks etched into it
need an official grip
thats quite the flat bottom
queen would be disappointed
Yeah i had to screenshot them. I couldnt save them
The design on the lid is growing on me. Wait, I mean whatever the opposite of that is. Shrinking on me? I like it less and less the more I look at it
I don't think it's horrible, it's just really really odd. Makes skinning and personalization much more difficult
looks good to me
Love how it looks personally now that Iām seeing them in an actual pic and not a render
It's a return to form from the ultra modern Pocket Mini/5
do we have a pic of the top of the black Flip2 yet?
oh i hope someone makes a psp ring for the top lid
If they're going back to their non ultra-modern roots, that's great, make me a clear red one š
That's a great idea
Someone needs to get on that
rejected, I demand GameCube lid
Well for the black one it would work perfectly
Hmmm wonder if they will sell a grip
Also cake
the cake again....
Everyone wants the cake
is that a rp5 or is it cake too
What if the design on the lid isn't pacman at all? I think it's supposed to be cake with a big slice cut out
That is almost assuredly a Key Lime Pie
Not cake
A pie
The cake is literally a lie
Sniffing the pixels on the photo.
Appears in my eye to be a baked style cheesecake, noice the darker orange layer between the whipped topping
Why thing is those would be weird toppings for a cheesecake
But it makes sense for key lime pie
agreed whipped topping is weird for cheesecake but also for keylime pie imo
I mean Iāve seen it for Key Lime Pie way more often than cheesecake tbf
Itās the sprig up top mainly for me tho
And also the dusting
Maybe itās just a food cultural thing?
meringue pies yeah but idk
whipped cream on pies screams cheap frozen cake section bs to me
I wouldnāt mind going into the ins and out of pies until launch on Monday
I meannnnnnn
You arenāt wrong
I think we should argue till monday or whenever retroid dave tells us the truth about the confectionary
the world needs to know
I think this is an adequate issue to take up the mantle the cows held
Passing of the torch
did pies replace bananas for scale?
Talk about literally anything other than the Flip 2 in the Flip 2 channel
I could see it happening
Metric or Imperial pie standard?
pies are best measured in inch diameter imo
small pie id say 8"
That works
I just realized they're including pies because it's pi day. Maybe it's not pi day over in China maybe it's a coincidence
I wonāt
U right
So we can use small pie measuring 8ā in diameter, but whatās the height?
Knowing the volume wouldnāt hurt when scaling
kinda chonk
not a fan ngl
but oh well
chonk closed? or also chonk open?
is it bad that I think my favorite part about it might be that it has a beautiful screen with a built in stand, and just use a real controller via BT....
I'm trying really hard to justify buying this on Tuesday....
Having the screen on a separate hinged part really helps with neck angles to be honest.
You can play in bed a bit more comfortably too.
I just realized something⦠cheesecake = cheese = milk = cows. Retroid was a part of only cows all along
Wish the logo on the top was just a decal or something that was easily covered/scrubbed, but it looks etched in?
It's a shame review units didn't go out before preorders launch. I'm curious about the ergonomics of this and while I can sort of guess by looking at it, it'd be nice to get feedback from someone who had it in their hands.
Also since it's Retroid, it'd be nice if people were able to survey it for issues before preorders opened.
Chris said it's comfortable š
But yeah, would've been nice to get more opinions on it beforehand.
I mean, I guess technically you can just...not pre-order.
Yeah, but I'm a degenerate handheld buyer!
But yeah, obviously waiting is the smart move.
Wellll
I had zero interest in the flip 2⦠but I cant stop looking at these new images of the actual devices, look so nice
Not sure about the dpad/button placement though in terms of being comfy
It shooould be okay, they're properly inset like on a real controller.
Iām sure youāre right , just looks weird
its actually pretty thin
a bit more thick than new 3ds xl
but thinner than rp flip for sure, ChrisCovers was right
He had a 3D printed flip 2 and 3DS XL to compare after all, of course he was right ;))
Is it just me or is there no back button?
Was hoping to not have to touch the screen.
Itās a combo back/home so hopefully we can disable the home function
Just gonna go ahead and hope it gets Rocknix support sooner rather than later.
RH link if you want to support when ordering.
https://rh-go.link/Retroid-Pocket-Flip-2
PS: It shows sold out currently, but that's just until the Monday 6:30pm PST launch
- Use the coupon code FLIP2SAVE10 for $10 off a Retroid Pocket Flip 2. For those who purchased a Retroid Pocket Mini use the coupon code MINISAVE10 as a stackable $10 discount. 2. Please note that if you purchase the Classic + Flip 2 bundle deal you will need to get in contact with customer support at sales@goretroid.
It has 100000:1 contrast, I just wish it had a 100000:1 aspect ratio
After seeing all the specification, color & photos
Very much hyped for it
But a lingering question in my mind is
If it is so good & sells well
Will they do a " FLIP3"
Should I wait for it
flip 1 flopped and they still made a 2
flip 3 will probably happen in a little over a year
At this point you're just waiting out of pure hype, not because you actually want it
but the bigger question is would there be any particular upgrades to it that would make buying a flip 2 right now seem not worth it?
like would you really make use of like... a sd 8 gen 2?
Ohh man, spending & tempting for the next is getting tiring
i would say if ur on the fence wait for reviews on what they say in case there's issues like ergonomics, software issues, or hinge issues
if it looks good to you then you can purchase
the screen, battery life, and size will all probably be very good at the very least
dpad will still porbably be good. People aren't sure how good the layout will be so there's factors to consider
It might need a grip, otherwise imagining a smaller steam deck in clamshell might look like if you think
Great for Portmaster bigger release
this is the same layout as the gpd xd plus
and there's a small incline on the bottom half of the device probably to make touching the buttons/dpads easier
but this is definitely a wait for reviews kinda thing if ur really worried about ergos
Just worried on thumbstick ergo movement for FPS, which i play 50% on android or Streaming
im pretty sure that layout benefits thumnbsticks most
esp for twin stick
more people are concerned about the dpad and button placement since its a bit far from the shell
but its a deceptively pretty small device so we'll have to wait and see
Always wonder will someone make smaller Steam Deck exactly half everything
I'm surprised we haven't seen the steam deck layout on anything else
not really the exact layout but it just visually looks like one
wii u gamepad had a similar layout to steam deck
Yo is that a Chibi Robo Park Patrol banner
probably why steam deck took it from Wii U because Wii U gamepad was famously comfortable
yea
it is
Pretty sexy not gonna ngl
I meant broader side with side by side controls with 4.5 inch or 5 inch screen
yea i wouldnt know then
And yeah that's what I meant with my comment too. Maybe it really just wouldn't work without the Steam Deck's big boi size
what about the c-c-c-c-combo bundle
Ah that should be listed at the bottom of the page as an option 
When it goes live
Thats what they did with the mini and rp5
I overlaid a controller and the distance is basically on par with a controller.
it is spread apart more tho
but thats because its a clamshell
ur fingers wont be touching the middle mostly
Its more about grip down when you hold, it screws controlling
I think the thickness probably helps since you won't be clutching it as "tightly" with a full grip.
if you look closely on the bottom half of the device theres an incline
i dont think its a camera angle thing its definitely a small incline to get your hands to rest better when moving around that thumb from stick to buttons
It's definitely sloped, confirmed by Chris and the initial reveal video that shows a side view.
yea
but in terms of its benefits im only talking theory
i dont know too many good sloped designs and how they operate
im guessing it was intentional to help with comfort for this layout and to keep the device thinner while avoiding the protruding triggers
Ayaneo made one like that
The Air 1s
Ergonomics matter very much
That's not what you said though
how you ar able to press buttons & move thumbs with ease
Steam Deck has hit very close in eronomics
Wouldn't it still be easier considering it's a smaller handheld with less distance between buttons
btw, why has nobody beaten up Stubbs about getting the channel name wrong? 
and no more pockets
can't wait for the influx of used flip 1s to hit the marketplace
My watermelon flip is safe because these colors on the new one are stupid. š
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Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Evolved)
Preorder day is my wife's birthday - if I could promise her cake, this might go better š
whaaaaaat
transparent pink is so freaking sexy
I still think it's tragic we didn't get a 6 button variant of this. Once they teased it on the Classic I thought for sure they were gonna surprise us with an option on the Flip 2 as well
Yeah that would've been nice
ignore the wife, pre-order all the Retroids
space for a whole damn keyboard in the middle š
touch screen with keyboard 
If you look closely at the bottom half of the device, you'll notice some buttons. These are likely going to be used to control the games you wish to play
Still upset it doesn't have the full 3 dedicated android buttons when it had the space for it.
And like, maybe a dedicated button for hotkey activation.
Hopefully when/if Rocknix hits we can remap the home button š
Yeah so much room, give me 6 buttons and another one or two programmable. I'll probably end up getting it anyway, but 6 buttons would have been a must-have since no one else has made an N64 capable device yet (ARC wasn't powerful enough, and no stick).
here you go, your 100000:1 aspect ratio handheld
just for fun, my thing wont go past 4096 tho
so heres 4096:1
Is it oled š
that was too much aspect ratio for discord
i had to zoom in 3000% to even fill the pixels to make it 
The Retroid pocket flip is not compatible with the dock?
Anyone mechanical engineer who can confirm that image proves better hinge????
it might if the type c is on the bottom
that's the default before a new product is made available
I think that's when the preorders go live
In ROCKNIX, the Home button will be the hotkey button, just like it is on the 5/mini... I am disappointed we lost a button vs the 5/mini
I've actually been using the "back" button on my rpmini for additional hotkeys I setup in AetherSX2 on ROCKNIX, so guess I'll have to work something else out
I have one of those Amazon basic usbc to display port cables and itās totally fine.
The 17th can't get here fast enough. Wonder how many more of these we'll see before then.
You just missed it. I was told to buy them all #1336037750889250960 message 
Iāve been informed that there will be a 200 device limit on pre orders for the Flip 2.
just use multiple emails
now to just figure out what color classic for the combo...
I am mechanical aerospace engineer with 20 years experience. Can confirm hinge is better
200 total. Not per person.
better, as in good enough?
It was a joke sorry. Making fun of the mini return limit.
200 for western customers
And shipping will be double.
So that plastic wont chip out before metal warps out
Just looking at it that my 2 year don't smack in half with ease
Iām wondering if they have a metal receiving ring like the 3DS
I don't believe in brands words or image feedback. they can say it will survive tank over & 1000000 opening closing
I'm just going to be sure not to hold it by the top part with the heavier bottom part hanging and hope for the best š
it just has to last long enough until the next device comes out....
Are they sticking with the pacman logo?
Don't think they're going to change anything at this point...
Man I love the way this thing looks ngl
Yes
That US SNES color looks great.
I am a random person on the internet.
It's a lot more hinge to spread the force out so it shooould be better?
Yeah that hinge looks beefy
No itās a urinal cake now
See if powkiddy made this we'd get a Pacman sticker included. Retroid should be ashamed
I'm a big fan of black, but in this design that SNES is also my favorite
The consoled closed reminds me a lot of the ds lite in that position
The flip 2 is gonna a be a hell of a device
Unilever urinal cake label
Any flip 2 news recently?
Except for real images of the devices
The images and the prices that's it
The snes and the game cube are my favorites
And closed looks like a ds
is awesome
Man I am tempted to get the transparent one
It really does! Only reason I'll be getting GameCube instead is because I already have 353P in US SNES colors, which is more fitting... think GameCube fits this one better in my book, but I can understand the SNES nostalgia @_@
That black looking so clean š„
wait is the flip2 the same price as the normal rp5
No, preorder promo price is the same as full price on the five though
so its a few bucks more then
I do like that they went with a little more square design on these
I can't decide on color
I really want the transparent but know I'll be kicking myself down the road
but yea... i feel like this fits a niche of something idk yet lol
i love my odin 2 portal. but its also... like a house device
this is jacketable
wonder what the launch quirk will be
retroid usually has funky triggers ?
or funky screen lol
Luckily most the hardware has been used before
Hinge is always the fear
Odin Portal would only make sense for me if x86 handhelds didn't exist
Hinge, combo back/home button, and control placement are the only real new things
GUYS WHITE BUTTONS! WE ARE SO IN!
That looks so wrong
personally i love it
They did a great job with all of the colors tbh
The 16 bit US is dark grey on the sticks and dpad in some pics but white in others so who knows what you are gonna get
I was going to get the US 16Bit but if it comes with white sticks I guess I'll go with something else
I'm pretty sure im getting black
Not sure I'll be bothered to swap stuff out
Idk why but I always find the āretro inspiredā colorways to be the worst ones
Lid on the og was way more curvey. Bottom also wasn't angled
Lid on this is more of a unit
Originally it only barely held screen. Might need the space for the oled
Didn't notice the white, yeah that is cursed š±
Almost all the pics have dark grey
Yeah, even just the pics of it on the store page don't agree, didn't notice that >_>
Hopefully this one is accurate
Would be strange of them to display the wrong version though
tbh im liking the white buttons version, but yeah that one isnāt accurate to the snes sooo
Well they showed two so one is wrong either way
They're grey on the "real product" shots so that should be the right one.
Turns out they change in the light - in one pic it was opening, so they were still dark from when the lid was closed, but as they're exposed to more light, they turn white
Either way they failed when they didn't do this colorway. š¤·š»āāļø
āthis one is accurateā
Which implies that if the grey buttons one were correct, then it would be strange if they displayed the white one.
Even just this picture contradicts itself
is that in response to what i said just now? i wouldnt know why either way
No, sorry, I'm just noticing more looking at the pictures and was replying as a way of pointing back to the picture
I do wonder about the pocketability of the flip 2 vs the mini
I just slip the mini in a drawstring bag I had that I use as a sleeve and it slides in and out of pockets nicely and is a good size
So hoping flip 2 feels safe without a sleeve as a clamshell and isn't too big
I can carry it in my pocket on my Levi's. But I don't. I don't pocket any devices. Unless it's in a hoodie pocket
yea pants is for wallet and phone. i dont like back pockets
odin portal requires a specific size sling bag
probably why 35xx sp is my go to handheld to bring about
can fit in any jacket pocket or bag
they already confirmed on the Retroid discord that that's just a bugged render, no white buttons on the final product
Unless they have an orange RP Mini QC issue again
Who will get the collector's edition this time lol
If they sent me a GameCube flip 2 with the sticks/dpads/buttons from the SNES one, I think I might be ok with that š¤ šŖ
imagine you order the us snes and it shows up with an orange backshell
Same. How can I choose?
Donāt. Im already scared by this image on their store page.
honestly orange outer shell on that would be dope
Well, they donāt even have an orange shell option, so maybe itāll instead be the purple or black back shell?
imagine if they had launched the same color suite as the classic for the flip 2
Black and purple option would be nice
Black with GC buttons is the one that got away
Unfortunately there's no evil colorway too
Idk why they only did that with the mini
The watermelon rp4 is the best looking device theyāve ever made.
I wish they would sell solid shells
I'd love an indigo back shell for my black rp5
I don't want clear green or blue
The clear black RP2S and clear white RP4 is actually my favorite, but that transparent red was insanely good looking too
Yes
Yup.
we, the community, need to design a different top shell immediately. go get it done everyone.
They sent 1000 units for hinge testing
Iām afraid itās too late
They got so many flip 2 ready
I wonder why thereās no YouTube videos, gameplay showcases
100k
That's what I'd tell us at least
As for the amount to hinge openings
Nah. It's just easy to throw a number out there
Open and close 100k units once and they've got all the durability data needed
The fact they said they did any helps a little at least
But they were gonna fix the mini screen too so 
Here I stole some screenshots from @fathom geyser
Shout out to all the people taking endless screenshots and even saving them in folders to document everything retroid does
Doesn't mean they tested all 1K. And that's like a ridiculous number anyway
Difference is they said they were gonna fix the screen, while with the Flip 2 they said theyāre literally in the middle of testing them.
If they did that number that's 100% what preorderers are getting. Heh
Nah, thatās domestic and reviewers.
Not gonna throw a thousand units in the trash after
First batch is gonna be way more than 1000.
I wouldn't trust much from retroid these days
Would make sense if reviews even got them before preorder
we will see what happens
Well yeah, but I donāt trust most of these companies anyways, Iām just knocking Retroid down a couple pegs on my ratings.
Just feel like we've seen things before and it never meets or exceeds that marketing
yeah, they went from the one exception to 'don't preorder retro handhelds' to 'DEFINITELY don't preorder from retroid'
Like I said. The fact they did anything is better than nothing
But I'll never take a number referenced and just believe it. Heh
Eh, to me they just dropped down to ādonāt pre-order from any of these companies period, unless Iām fully willing to take the risk on assuming they canāt screw it upā.
Why? Reddit will just bully them into giving me my money back when the hinge turns to shrapnel
Honestly the only ātechnicalā exception I have left is Ayn, and even then Iām already outright satisfied with the Portal, so Iām not even interested in whatever else theyāve got cooking (unless itās a Flip, and even then I wouldnāt get it).
Ayntroid. Gonna put out a dual screen in the same shell
and then they'll decide to remove $55 off your refund for a molding error next to the usb C port that was there when it was new
(for an error in a shell they sell for $6)
Def one of the wilder hobbies to have fanboys in
Just keep bullying them until they give the rest, thatās how I got Anbernic to actually let me replace my Cube when the replacement screen was even worse than the original.
Especially considering rarely any of them ever produce multiple hits.
It took 2 weeks to do so (after already spending 2 weeks arguing for them to send the replacement screen), but it still worked.
Oh no shit, Iām still annoyed at being nearly gaslit by Ayn fans into thinking I was imagining local dimming issue not existing for the O2 Mini (since it doesnāt have a toggle for that, something even Pimax thought to include with their MiniLED variant).
Hell, Iāve literally gotten the Odin Lite and all 3 Odin 2ās, and the Odin 2 Portal is still the only Ayn handheld Iāve ever legit actually enjoyed using.
When would an Odin 3 come out
What are we, some kind of trimui?
I'm glad. The flip 1 is borderline too curvey
Ayanetroid killed it with that design
Id have loved something in the middle between the two
Itās outright become my main āat homeā android handheld (for whenever itās been a long day and/or arm day and I just canāt hold the Steam Deck because god damn that thing can get way too heavy if your arms are already sore).
Edit: I hate Autocorrect and its desire to always correct your as youāre.
Butt is more like this. And I dig it
using the bottom inputs without a grip aint' ideal
Yeah, when theyāre not offset and theyāre completely in-line with the top controls.
odin portal is great.
Hence why the offset on the Portal is actually legit pretty great, even without the grip.
i think the flip 2 input layout looks decent?
yeah the dpad placement ruined the odin 2 for me
and the screen quality was just ok
Yup, you gotta have an offset.
overall as someone who doesn't really need any more power than an 865 I'm happier with my rp5 in every way
trying to use the dpad on the odin lite is probably the worst thing that's ever happened to my left hand
Oh screen is the main thing I outright disliked about both the Odin 2 LCD and especially the Mini.
especially for like gba. dpad + the stretch for left trigger
Oh do not remind me. I was lucky enough to get mine used, with the aero grips included.
I outright could not use the damn d-pad or right stick without those grips.
odin portal for me is mostly a local streaming device these days. its quite good.
the screen is big enough, high enough res + 120hz. kinda ideal?
The Wii U gamepad was super comfortable. I was one of the 13 people that liked the console.
13 ppl that bought* it. think all owners liked it tho!
loved mine. being able to play 'portable' mode is gamechanging back then
Just saying it because the new flip has a similar layout
well it also had more space and grips
flip2 can be cramped or something, no clue
hope russ and others get some preview units
Pre-Orders are usually still open during review units ya?
no they close them immediately the moment Russ reviews it, to maximize losing money
Like I'm pretty sure they're open just a bit more after Russ usually
I LOVE THAT THE BLACK ONE is actually ALL BLACK
Like Batman blacked out
Even the d-pad is black
MMMM
DELICIOUS
BUH-BYE RG35xxsp
I sold my 2DS XL today for $250 soooo I can absolutely pre-order now
I got a SNES model don't worry :p
I'll sell my kidney to play 3DS games
I want to say the RGC review for Retroid devices usually hits after shipping starts for consumers, but before (almost) any consumers have actually received one yet. I'm probably totally wrong on that though, just what my brain is telling me.
Lmao
Someone explain to this newbie what chip he wants.
Get 865
They perform similarly but 865 will have better compatibility and support
865 is a better gpu with fewer compatibility issues and can run custom firmware
1100 is less efficient and super proprietary
if you have to ask, then you want the 865, otherwise youd already kno why you would want the d1100
Thanks folks!
Plus 1100 and the rp5 OLED is an untested combo firmware wise
16bit. Mmmm.
Most likely, I can see the discount being available even in early may
They stop offering it once ALL pre orders have been fulfilled
youāre basically begging for green tint 
I'm assuming accessories will be added once pre-orders open? Or we raw dog.
Thereās also screen protectors for the classic, as for diy parts Iām sure they will add them by Monday
Selling lanyards 𤯠pulling all of our strings
lanyard is must buy
buy all the accessories or enjoy paying $28 in shipping later
im guessing the flip2 case will be bulky like the rp5 case. oh well its just $10
How often do people actually use lanyards for clamshells the size of the Flip 2?
Not that itās big. I just donāt find lanyards very practical and I would see it getting annoying hanging down while trying to play it
Also whatās the point in a case for a clamshell when weāre gonna have all of our games digitally on it??
Itās not like a DS/3DS case that can carry cartridges too
1100 being less efficient might have more to do with screen than efficiency
Unless you wanted different emulators on different SD cards??
D1100 is 6 nm, sd865 is 7
Process size isnāt everything
nah it was less efficient even compared to the t618 in the rp3+ with the same screen. I think the mediatek cpu governor logic is just trash
Some people might not want scratches on the outer shell when traveling
Is plays a part, but def isnāt the full picture
I mean ig, but like I feel like thatās the point/charm of a clamshell
It had the same battery life as the t618 in terms of testing tho
It is its own case
And rp4 pro still had overall better battery life by a flat 10% with the extra battery capacity
The screen was just never efficient and we rarely used t618 for true high end games like god of war which wouldnāt run or would run underclocked therefore giving higher battery
Something like windwaker had good battery life on the 4 pro, possibly 6-8 hours depending on ur configs
Itās just rp5 can now get 10 hours
Of actual windwaker
And across the board itās just so much better cuz screen takes up so little battery
Thatās not the bundle coupon though, itās for people that want to stack the rp mini coupon on top of it
Iām wondering if this is a bad translation thing and that you need to contact customer support about the bundle too?
I think the rp5 and rp mini listing had an instruction on how to bundle 2 products
This is just the only thing I see related to the bundle
I think you have to purchase them over āfrequently bought togetherā
Yea weāll see what happens
Yup there it is
Just kinda wish it was a separate listing
People out of the loop who might want the bundle might completely miss it and just get one
Same but Shopify only goes so far
We gotta be Retroidās salesmen for them
Das true
cheese cake's my guess
After looking at the consistency, Iām leaning kinda towards that now, but I still donāt think the presentation fits
The substance looked like a cheesecake, but the set up is really for something like a key lime pie
Ig it could technically be a key lime cheesecake
Wait Chris left Retroid?
Yes, due to being doxxed and receiving threats. Really unfortunate
He is missed in the chat for sure
OMG. Thatās terrible. Was it because of the RP Mini screen issue?
Yup
so with the shell in the flip 2 being thicker then th flip 1 do we think retroid did anything with the extra space?
I would assume it has something to do with making room for the recessed sticks
I mean it could possibly help with cooling by allowing for a larger/more complex cooling solution?
Looks like a straight up cake, just very compact. They have them kinda like that at my local Chinese buffet.
Iād just really need to see the internal layout
