Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[frosty oxide]

I wish retroid and other companies make both sony style and xbox style stick placements. if they can make base and pro models devices. why can't they do 2 sticks placement devices?

like all solid color devices would be xbox inverted, and transparent color devices would be inline.

[tawdry dove]

tons of upfront costs to injection molding

not sure how cheap getting a mold done in china would be but like talking 10's of thousands for a mold

[stray dagger]

it would create a lot of extra cost they would have to make back by raising the prices of these devices

[frosty oxide]

any different than putting a RP5 in a flip shell? or a mini in a vertical handheld?
yes that my prediction for the vertical hidden device in the flip 2 picture.

[tawdry dove]

yeah doesnt dilute your product line before you even get a chance to sell anything

also you need to make enough of both molds to offset the costs

If they had done a RP5 and RP5Flip at the same time yeah that would be pretty dumb

at least 5 and mini targeted quite broadly different segments without an insane amount of overlap

[frosty oxide]

better than the RP5 and the mini, I don't believe the mini sold very well.

[tawdry dove]

sold well enough for them to run out in a few months at least

[frosty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/ozzy-osbourne-shrug-idk-gif-9564944

[echo lynx]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1faqwaw/retroid_pocket_5_disappointing_already/

[frosty oxide]

thats reddit, I don't know what they are doing. I see youtubers getting it to run impressive emulators. not to mention pc games that you think it wouldn't even touch.

[tawdry dove]

its also a post from pre launch?

complain about ram issues when it has enough base ram

[frosty oxide]

yea before all the updates.

[tawdry dove]

ngl swap ram is useless but it had enough for what its doing

not like some cheap cellphones that do 1gig+3swap

[tacit latch]

it's really not that big of a deal

almost everything plays perfectly fine on A10

I have an RP Mini and I haven't felt the need to flash A13 on it even though Retroid made it available post launch

[waxen jolt]

the rp4pro was a13, why do a downgrade lol

good that it ended up being a13 on launch because then retroid doesn't have to maintain two versions of android for a device

[sweet shuttle]

SD 865 didn't support A13 before Retroid reached out to Qualcomm

[waxen jolt]

Fairly sure people have built a13 roms for that chip before lol

at the end of the day, it was a bad idea to announce it with a10 initially

also the s20 literally exists

[copper burrow]

sshhh controversial opinion here 😄

[sweet shuttle]

Well the issue was Switch emulation

I don't care to emulate Switch on my RP5, but it's not an option at all with A10

[echo lynx]

Switch runs great honestly on android

People make it out to be such a horrible experience

But with snapdragon it's greT

Great

[sweet shuttle]

Well for me it's because I have an actual Switch lol

[echo lynx]

Like 6k resolution smash runs great on an sd8 gen 3

2880p

45 fps

It's okay

Sd 865 should handle whatever you want from a 5.5 inch screen

[waxen jolt]

tbf there were already a10 forks because of stuff like the odin lite (or was it odin pro?)

[random tulip]

Yeah. There's almost always ROMs on a higher fork than what is officially supported by chip makers

That said official support means one less step for handheld makers and probably saves us a ton of headache

All that said, Linux support should increase the longevity regardless so I'd almost always prefer a soc that already has Linux availability

[waxen jolt]

yeah that

it was a good selling point

[tacit latch]

ser https://github.com/XHYN-PH/switch-android10-guide

switch on A10 does fine with the A10 builds

[sweet shuttle]

You have 14 hours left to live

Nintendo ninjas have been sent your way

[tacit latch]

I'm ready

[tacit latch]

having it unpredictably crash at random times in random games isn't quite great tbh

for the games that do run without crashes, great

but it's a 50/50 lottery

[echo lynx]

Raaaah super SP

[versed vigil]

Ironically enough, no. For the SD865, literally only 1 company made an Android 13 build for the chipset, and they did it for their own tablet, they didn’t even share the work publicly.
Qualcomm literally had to make themselves a base Android 13 image for Retroid to modify for the RP5.

[waxen jolt]

samsung did put out a13 updates for the S20

along with the note 20

I don't think the other big manufacturers did similar

[versed vigil]

Oh wait, I knew about the S20 but I actually didn’t know the Note 20 got an A13 update.

[waxen jolt]

I learned about it at the same time

actually cool that they didn't stop at 12

[versed vigil]

Well, then now I’m just confused on why Qualcomm had to make an A13 build for Retroid to use. Did 2 different companies really make the update themselves and just didn’t share that info back with Qualcomm?

[waxen jolt]

that's possible

[tacit latch]

probably

[rigid thicket]

Samsung does a lot of unique stuff for their version of Android so that's probably why. They aren't going to make a separate build that's just "stock" to share.

There's a AOSP build of 13 for the Surface Duo 2 which is an SD865 I believe, but that's also not sharable for similar reasons.

[versed vigil]

Nope, it was an SD888.

[rigid thicket]

Ah, my bad.

I kind of wonder what goes into making a build of Android usable on a chip since core Android is open source via AOSP.

[gritty kraken]

I think a 6" top screen like this would be so perfect. I love my GPD Win Mini but I would love it more if it had just a slightly smaller screen. It's almost comfortable.

[naive blade]

6 inches is literally the gold ratio of pocketability and size

[arctic pulsar]

That's what she said

[echo lynx]

Wonder how much work goes into getting a different version build to work

[naive hollow]

Any flip 2 news

[severe ridge]

they scrapped every color except for brown

they are all brown now

[icy bramble]

We probably won't hear anything about the flip 2 until Monday

[random tulip]

Shit Brown at that

[jolly kayak]

I would love a brown handheld

Shades of brown

Goomba edition

[fluid stone]

Wood grain 405v 👀

[urban jewel]

my fav color combo is brown/pink/teal 👀

[severe ridge]

honestly we already know two colors

[urban jewel]

all black everything is the only color I need for OLED handhelds 😏

[severe ridge]

indigo/gamecube and black
id expect maybe a snes/famicom and a white or silver or red

if they do things in a cool way they can do button mixing and give us more color options with only a few shell colors

[severe ridge]

black with red buttons?

[urban jewel]

button colors can vary and it doesn't bother me, as long as the entire face plate is black I'm all set 👍

all black device with rainbow buttons is low key 🔥

[random tulip]

I want fully transparent with LEDs throughout. I don't even want to be able to see the screen

[robust wedge]

DSi LL bronze would be a great handheld to base a colorway on.

[distant cradle]

I personally hope we see some creative colorway options and not just black, white, grey, and indigo

[untold oyster]

A brown flip wouldn't look bad!

[echo lynx]

If only they based the handheld on having two screens as wel l 😦

[coral valley]

https://tenor.com/view/sageykins-neolliam-gif-26212324

SUPER SP

[icy bramble]

#1336037750889250960 message
Shit I meant until at least Monday but I don't expect anything then lol

[sacred valley]

Nice work!! I personally would make the bottom screen smaller (like standard 3ds size) in order to make the face buttons bigger and add an offset to the analogs.

[naive blade]

Thanks

I made the bottom screen this size to truly make it seem like it's a complete replacement to the 3ds xl

since they have the same size bottom screens

[rigid thicket]

You can't have light bleed if the whole thing bleeds 😂

[echo lynx]

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah super sp

[sacred kindle]

heavy bleed

[fluid stone]

polychrome mult....

[chrome cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-polychrome-foods-consumables-womp-womp-gif-15570584959877708428

[white scarab]

ngl all they need to get me to actually work on getting this is a blue model

[urban jewel]

cobalt blue 👀

[white scarab]

it would be so awesome
it would be so cool

[abstract garnet]

Is the retroid flip 2 dual screen or just one ?

[urban jewel]

that's not really cobalt blue tho, I was more saying cobalt blue because of the GBA SP lol

[abstract garnet]

It's azure blue on the pic right ?

[urban jewel]

just one

[abstract garnet]

Okay

[urban jewel]

the pic I was responding to just regular old blue lol

[abstract garnet]

Oh okay I see

[urban jewel]

it's a 3DS XL tho

not a RP Flip 2

[white scarab]

look everyone here is weak to nostalgia let me dream about the handheld I DID HAVE as a kid

[abstract garnet]

Yeah it's obvious

[abstract garnet]

Man I wish I had an XL I have a old 3ds it's still good but tiny, I got the circle pad pro on it

[white scarab]

the xl was so cool but it was fragile as hell

the hinge was prone to breaking 💔
my sister dropped mine onto tile floor when she was a baby and it just slowly stopped working

[abstract garnet]

😭 that's the worst way to lose it, that's sad

[white scarab]

i remember wrapping the hinge in tape to try to keep it together

[abstract garnet]

That make me remember when I was kid I broke the hinge of my dad DS... It's horrible that I did that even accidentely

But last year I manage to buy one for him

He was happy

[urban jewel]

I've found it a truly miserable process trying to find a black new 3DS non-XL without any scratches or yellowing on the screens

[abstract garnet]

I found mine easily in a easy cash

[unkempt ferry]

Electronics tend to do that when dropped

[abstract garnet]

And there was a lot of XL's too

[urban jewel]

how lmao

[abstract garnet]

They used to have a lot of 3ds's and they all sold them

They was even a ambassador one

In box and all

I don't know how but they had a lot

[urban jewel]

who is they

[abstract garnet]

The Easy cash

[unkempt ferry]

It's crazy how good a charge the 3DS has , I have a mint red XL and reg cosmic black 3ds that I used a lot back in the day that I literally haven't used for years and both still had like 80% charge just sitting in a drawer ( in a case )

[weary lark]

I’m ready for this thing to have some info and preorders drop and for reviewers to start getting it

I miss my retroid 4 Pro and the wait for this thing is the only think stopping me from getting another one

[opaque harbor]

anyone remember this blue?

I kind of want it on a retroid pocket flip 2

[icy bramble]

If I can have fun using the 3ds for PS remote play imagine what this could do

[frosty oxide]

I'm thinking on waiting and see whats in the pipeline for sept/oct. yea it looks good a clamshell without sliders. I'm just not really into clamshell, and hell no to the little vertical device they have hidden in the first pic. I'm hoping for RP6 being not to pricey, or the RP6 lowers the RP5 price down.

[plush silo]

Honestly hoping we get more than just 4 color options on the Flip 2.
I'm not the biggest fan of the color options we have on the Pocket 5

[unkempt ferry]

No chance the RP6 goes backwards and is cheaper than the RP5 , that’s not how it works

[wooden phoenix]

The price will go down. When you switch to the powkiddy or anbernic channels.

[jolly kayak]

We could get a price reduction of RP5 though 👀

[copper burrow]

might be a while before we see one. Will be a challenge to see what they can do to justify a RP6 model tbh

[stray dagger]

well, at the very least the would have to use the 7+ Gen 2 to improve performance over the 865... better yet the 8s Gen 3

but arguably more performance is of relatively low importance given how the 865 technically is powerful enough for everything up to PS2 and more limited by emulation in itself

and Switch emulation is kinda in a standstill, so going forward more power is more for Winlator or Android games, which would require them to up the RAM and internal storage of their devices by A LOT

not that an 8s Gen 3, 12/512 device wouldn't be possible for $250

[echo lynx]

Just one

[tacit latch]

RP6: exactly the same specs as the 5 but with stick top

[stray dagger]

BOTH sticks on top

[tawdry dove]

One stick on the back

[stray dagger]

put the stick where start/select where on the RP3+

[tacit latch]

good thing this thing doesn't have any curved glass anywhere

because I'm still waiting for my o2 portal

[fathom geyser]

I am really glad it isn’t a glass clamshell

[tacit latch]

at this point it's looking like I'll be able to order and have shipped the flip 2 before they sort out the manufacturing issues on the portal

[stray dagger]

I think the issue is more the CNY here, I have my Portal for quite a while now

[jolly kayak]

Mainly just ergonomics I think. Seems like a cash grab to make an uncomfortable device and then 'offer a grip'

They're getting awful similar to Odin 2 land

[copper burrow]

thank god my odin 2 portal both arrived quickly and is comfy 😄

[random tulip]

I mean updated hardware is always a reason to make an rp6

[copper burrow]

fistbumps in portal 😄

[random tulip]

The only sad thing is possibly moving to a chip that doesn't support linux

[plush silo]

RP6 releasing would also lower the prices of the RP5, Mini, and the upcoming Flip 2 and vertical handheld I'd imagine (Idk if they lowered the Flip 1's price at all when the RP4 came out)

I'm the kind of person that's perfectly happy with not having the absolute newest thing and even buying older hardware for cheaper if it suits my needs well enough

[fathom geyser]

Found my old one 💙

[random tulip]

Yeah. But that's not happening anyway until mid year at earliest. If not fall

[coral valley]

Rp6 with an 8 gen 2 would be crazy

[random tulip]

Plenty of time to sell flips, minis, verticals, etc until then

[random tulip]

True. Would suck lacking Linux. But they'll advance hardware regardless

[coral valley]

Isn't batocera being worked on for the odin 2?

[random tulip]

Honestly at some point emulators will have to evolve

[random tulip]

Yeah. Supposedly it's closer?

Depends how fast makers move on to the next chip anyway. Lol. Almost going too fast now

[coral valley]

I would like to see them increasing the resolution of the screens if we continually get more powerful chips. That might be asking too much though

We're reaching the point where upscaling higher than 1080p will be possible

[random tulip]

1440 would be the sweet spot

[coral valley]

Yep

[random tulip]

Then past that point unless you're rocking 8.8" screens in not sure you'd gain much

[coral valley]

Only problem would be finding a panel small enough i think

[random tulip]

Then we waiting on QD-OLED

[coral valley]

1440p oled 120 hz would be insane

[random tulip]

Yeah. I imagine we'll see it at some point

[coral valley]

Probably not gonna happen within the next model but you never know

[random tulip]

Feel like that's about as close to peak as we'll get

[plush silo]

True, though I'm likely not buying the Flip 2 until then anyways x)
I kidn of almost want them to not release any more handhelds after the vertical this year, but they will likely release the Pocket 6 still later this year

[random tulip]

Yeah. I mean with flip 2 and vertical RP5 sales will start to lag. So they'll look for another main line model to put out to ride the hype train

Currently I'm in wait mode til we see what the vertical is like

I honestly don't know if there's much more I'd play on a flip 2 that I don't already play on flip 1. But maybe the screen upgrade will be a good enough reason

[icy bramble]

Idk why they'd even look to make the RP6 unless it becomes unreasonable to make the RP5

And even then it seems like they'd be fine enough to get a better chip into it

[rigid thicket]

As far as emulation goes, the area between SD865 and SD8G2 doesn't really open up much more does it?
It makes sense that Retroid is releasing new sidegrade products if they don't want to get into "Well might as well spend X extra and get an Odin 2" or something range.

[noble canyon]

If you overclock the sd865 performance even more (which is what Gamma's been testing) you can get 888 and 8 gen 1 levels of performance potentially

so yea

no reason to upgrade until 8 gen 2

[icy bramble]

Problem with Odin 2 is it's TOO FUCKIN' BIG

🙃

[coral valley]

Odin 2 mini?

[unkempt ferry]

Eh , I actually like the bigger devices, maybe too big for you

[random tulip]

I mean again it just depends what you want. I wouldn't consider the Odin 2 or portal very portable

Like sure. You can throw it in a case in a backpack. But it's not going in your pocket

The RP5 is great for its portability. The flip 2 should be even more so

[limpid ledge]

What about odin 2 mini

[random tulip]

Odin 2 mini is solid. But it's not OLED. Which is fine. Some people still like it for the brightness etc. But having owned both for a while I just couldn't justify paying $100+ more for what consoles it unlocked and a less vibrant screen

Now if they do an Odin 3 mini with OLED, that'd be awesome

[rigid thicket]

I mean, the RP5 isn't realistically going in most pockets either just due to length.
Like, it definitely can for some pockets, but for most it's going in a bag like an Odin 2 would, ahaha.

It's why the Flip 2 is an exciting potential.

[manic grove]

yeah around rp4 size was the upper limit of what I'd consider pants pocketable

[random tulip]

It fits most jacket pockets pretty well

I guess for those in tropical climates only rocking speedos there's a limit

[rigid thicket]

Even in seasonal areas I'm likely not wearing a coat or even a light jacket for most of the year.

I used to always rock a hoodie with those big front pockets which was nice, but I get hot so easily these days.

[random tulip]

Yeah. It def has its limits. But more often then not I find a way. Haha

[manic grove]

gonna be rocking cargo shorts real soon

[random tulip]

I mean flip 2 should be even easier. I still carry my flip 1 a lot

[manic grove]

took em out for a test run and no one cared lol

[random tulip]

I never stopped wearing cargo shorts. Style be damned

They'll be the latest fashion in 5 years anyway

I'm just ahead of the cycle

I also have loot goblins in my vicinity that hand me useless things to carry 24/7. But I realize my situation doesn't apply to all

[rigid thicket]

You just have to not care about fashion enough that you become the fashion.

[random tulip]

Exactly

We're all gonna be forced to buy American made clothes for $40 that don't fit right anyway soon. Maybe even corporate sponsored clothing. So it won't matter shortly

[rigid thicket]

Honestly, it might still be cheaper to buy Chinese clothes even with the tariffs so all this'll do is raise prices across the board 😂 😅 🥲 😢

[random tulip]

Haha. True

But yeah. I get why bigger devices exist even why someone would pick a portal over a PC handheld that's only slightly bigger. It's great we have variety

But we're consumers. RP6 def coming

[rigid thicket]

Having been using my Surface Duo a lot lately, the clamshell form factor is great for use in bed.
You can rest it on your chest and still have the screen pointed at your face.

...this thought originally started with "Yeah, even though I consider everything not pocketable the same functionally, I do get the want for something smaller than like, the Steam Deck that can do similar things if only just for pure weight in positions like in bed."
I just forgot to submit that thought first.

[echo lynx]

mhm magicx advertising hoodie

"merch"

get to pay for the privilege of being a billboar

[onyx hazel]

Odin 2 Portal is a heckin’ chonker. It’s not much smaller than an Ally X

[random tulip]

Yeah. Some def get up there

[random tulip]

I'd love a duo if I could find one that's not insanely priced

[echo lynx]

betrayal

OH SORRY CAPS LOCK WAS ON

BETRAYAL!!!!!!!

[rigid thicket]

I'm so glad I managed to get mine before everyone started grabbing them.
At least this specific benefit applies to all clamshells.
Just another thing about the Flip 2 to be excited for.

[coral valley]

now we just need an odin 2 portal flip

[noble canyon]

Who pinged me lol

[echo lynx]

ghost

[tired cypress]

How does the size on this compare to RP Mini

[rigid thicket]

Uh...just looking at RP5 vs Mini, the Flip 2 will be smaller than the Mini but thicker.

[frosty oxide]

I didn't say cheaper than the RP5, I said the RP6 would price drop the RP5. meaning when newer model comes out, the older model gets cheaper.

[rigid thicket]

Here's a rough comparison overlay scaling the RP5 screen with the Flip 2's since it's probably the same screen.

So with the hinge it'll be a tiny bit wider than the Mini but shorter and fatter.

Or uh, with this perspective I should say it'll be a bit taller and thicker but less wide.

[naive blade]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-doctor-octopus-the-power-of-the-sun-in-the-palm-of-my-hand-sun-gif-23770857

[tired cypress]

That's a good idea on how it will be thanks

[plush silo]

Assuming the real thing ends up close to that, this looks to be the absolute best of both worlds of Mini and 5.
The screen of the 5 and the portability (or better) of the mini

[tacit latch]

no man, it's been a week since they came back and they haven't been able to manufacture more than like 10 units a day so far

they have a real manufacturing problem with that curved glass now

[stray dagger]

glad I got mine before that

[tacit latch]

meanwhile my order number was just after the CNY cut off

oh well, someday

[tame tundra]

This just made me a lot more excited for this device

[wide verge]

Yeah same. Might be a bit thick on the bottom, but now I’m not really worried about reaching my hands across all the empty space.

[rigid thicket]

On that front, here's an Xbox controller overlaid for reference.

[coral valley]

They should've went with the Xbox layout imo

[rigid thicket]

As long as everything in commonly placed and comfortable positions I don't really care.

[fathom geyser]

Then D-pad games wouldn’t feel good

[rigid thicket]

Dpad/Stick placement only really mattered on handhelds because there's never enough inset.

So one is always more uncomfortable than the other.

[fathom geyser]

Eh, it’s kinda preference. At first I thought I wouldn’t like both sticks top, but now that I’m imagining it and I’ve seen the side by side with the photoshopped dual shock layout I’m not hating

[rigid thicket]

In controllers it's a preference complaint which is also fair for different reasons.

But in handhelds it was a legitimate comfort complaint

[fathom geyser]

Sliders vs recessed sticks make a difference aswell

[rigid thicket]

In single screen clamshells it's just back to being a preference complaint for the most part.

Which, again, is totally fair, but it's not as do or die.

[fathom geyser]

When I first saw it I was like “that’s gonna make a lot of people unhappy” but I’ve just come to terms that I think I’ll be happy with it. Also it’s cool Ig for some of the people who want it as an RP5 with stick on top

[rigid thicket]

It's 100% going to at least put people off with it being unusual, ahaha.

[fathom geyser]

First stick top since RP2+

[echo lynx]

Wii u!!

[white scarab]

i think what helps its well designed for dpad and stick focused games

[wary briar]

DPAD ON TOP is when its focused for dpad focused games

[white scarab]

i was gonna say somethin but your nickname says it all so

[wary briar]

there is no one that can convince me DPad shouldnt be on top

just saying 😛

[light oyster]

If the joysticks are kinda in the way of D-pad on top, like RP5, then I have to disagree. I love my RP5 but I think the control ergo could be improved. The Flip 2 might be awesome. 🍻

[wooden phoenix]

You're all still gonna buy it. Stop arguing things set in stone. 🤣🤣🤣🍻🍻🍻

[fluid stone]

I'd rather use a stick on the bottom than a d-pad on the bottom but I'd rather use a stick on top than a stick on the bottom, I like having both depending on what I'm playing

[wary briar]

i wish.......but i just got myself a 8+ g1 device

so no flip for me

[wooden phoenix]

What was it?

[wary briar]

the y700 lol

[wide verge]

Wii U layout is actually fantastic

[wooden phoenix]

I just had a y700 delivered and an Odin 2 mini pro. Still preordering this 🤣

[wary briar]

well i would be.......but im saving up for the eventual y700 with SD elite chip

[wide verge]

only real downside is that having jump for most games being on X/B/A/lowest button is kind of a problem for how fast you can get there

[wary briar]

they better put the carbon silicon batter in that

6550 mah is not enough

[wide verge]

but really, having symetrical stick layouts are awesome

[wooden phoenix]

I feel you there. If it has an SD card slot again. Otherwise I'll pass.

[wary briar]

i doubt they will put it back........how else do they sell you on the 1tb version for ebooks

[wide verge]

I'm honestly surprised we dont see double top sticks more, when you have stick below buttons and fairly close together, it forces you to position your hands/grip to avoid hitting the sticks

[wary briar]

oh wait

the flip is both sticks on top?

what

why

[wooden phoenix]

You didn't know that? 😵

[white scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/wii-u-wii-mario-kart-wii-ulogo-logo-gif-13964803

to help with ergo

[wide verge]

probably because they sunk them into the case

[wary briar]

dual stick on top, or the y700 sd elite needing 1tb storange

[wide verge]

if you're going to do that, being near the edge of the device helps with cutouts I would imagine

[wooden phoenix]

It's super dumb. But yeah...sticks up top. Should have done Xbox offset. But who am I. 🤷🏻‍♂️😅

[fluid stone]

I think you're Kreatur3

[wary briar]

EWWW

[fluid stone]

But idk for sure

[wary briar]

hard pass

[fluid stone]

But imagine how nice it'll be to play Ape Escape on this...

[wooden phoenix]

Some days I don't know for sure either.

I've never played ape escape.

I refuse

[wary briar]

but then again, the steam deck is dual stick on top too

and that was known to be comfy

i guess it could work

[fluid stone]

B-but ape escape good :(

[wooden phoenix]

Still gonna pre-order. Color ways dependant. I don't want the stupid gc color. Need to see some fun transparent colors.

[fluid stone]

Steam Deck is everything on top, it's neat

I'm surprised I haven't seen anything else with that layout, maybe it just doesn't work unless it's beeg

[wooden phoenix]

I'll give this a shot. Worse case scenario I get black. Black is boring but safe. Easy to resell here.

[fluid stone]

WiiU layout works well with the gamepad, idk how well it'll work with something shaped more like a brick

[white scarab]

good thing retroid isnt ayn or else the trans red would be for the rpflip2 pro and max only

[wooden phoenix]

I'd own a rp5 if they'd done the SFC color on it. Stupid as fuck it was only on the mini.

[white scarab]

the mini is so weird

[wooden phoenix]

It was a pointless device.

Look you can play upper level shit...on a sub 4in screen

[coral valley]

Transparent usually looks too cheap to me

It can be done well but I feel like it's not most of the time

[wooden phoenix]

I love my watermelon flip. Although I'll always wish it looked like their renders of it and not frosty.

It was so misleading and shiesty

[coral valley]

Ig it's more of a nostalgic look

[white scarab]

i dont think its pointless, because the 4:3 handheld enjoyers are very loud
but still its
a weird handheld that doesnt put it together

[wooden phoenix]

I love my 4:3 devices. I rarely play widescreen stuff. But that power. With a tiny OLED screen. Just didn't make sense.

To me it's right up there with that expensive micro whatever that was made and sold for ridiculous amounts of money. Personal opinion of course. Some people love them.

[white scarab]

oh the ayaneo micro

yeah ayaneo fucking

sucks so bad

[fathom geyser]

RP Mini has it’s place, it would’ve been for me if it came in a colorway I liked and wasn’t made of glass

[plush silo]

It’s definitely a personal opinion thing.
I’d take the 3.7 inch OLED over a 4 inch LCD like the Anbernic 406H has, but I do fine enough with the 3.5 inch screen on my R36S so might just be me.

I don’t think the Mini should be so close in price to the RP5 tho 😅

[white scarab]

i just set the resolution to 3:2 and add some sprite shaders to fix any weirdness on any widescreen handheld i got

[fathom geyser]

Def coulda been cheaper tho

[white scarab]

the glass is stupid tbh

i dont get what it adds

[wooden phoenix]

Frailty sir, frailty

[plush silo]

$170-180 instead imo.

Definitely not 200 like it is rn

[distant cradle]

Are we expecting more details to drop in the next few days?

[coral valley]

Will likely will be within this week, assuming the rumors are correct and the pre-orders are starting early March

[distant cradle]

Where do they drop them first? X or here?

[coral valley]

I'm not sure tbh

Probably on X if I had to guess

[tropic surge]

I caved into giving the mini a shot, seemed better ergo than the 5 and miles better than this layout as much as I love the concept in theory

[true zodiac]

That very much buries the lead with the steamdeck though, it is all controls (relative to these other handhelds) on top.

[rigid thicket]

Yeeeeah, the SD is really wide to make that layout work, ahaha.
It's super comfortable, but makes it really hard to carry around.

[true zodiac]

Being fine with the R36S probably doesn't aid your argument. 😄

[rigid thicket]

In fairness, the R36S screen is oddly very good.

[white scarab]

everything else 🤐

[distant cradle]

Ergos don't matter. Just buy new device

[white scarab]

the rp3+ ergos were so bad I stopped using it 🙏

[copper burrow]

Same I sold mine last year, too uncomfortable

[copper burrow]

yeah it is weird how decent its screen is 😄

[long lichen]

Same, I really wanted to like the RP3+ given how much praise it got. Pulled it out of the box and was immediately underwhelmed. Screen was kind of cramped, controls were all shrunk down, it was flat and hard to hold onto. Great device if you really wanted pocketable 16:9 but I'm glad Retroid has moved away from 'pocket' even if its still in the name. Got an O2 and skipped the RP4 and 5. The Flip is calling to me though, assuming it's the same screen and chip as the 5. The O2 is just a little too large, given the grips and especially once you add a case, RP5 solves that.

I just wish they'd added another set of buttons. There's enough room on the face to add 6 buttons and that would have really set it apart.

[echo lynx]

Raaaah n64

[plush silo]

Wasn’t aware I was making an argument x)
Twas just my personal opinion on a subjective thing

[plush silo]

It really is.
It has no right being anywhere as decent as it is on a $30 device, but I like it a bit for what it is

[jagged blade]

I think the tactics retroid has been using has given enough time to know I will not buy this. Hate the "build Hype" by dropping little info here and there.

[opaque harbor]

Waiting for a review might be sensible

[rigid thicket]

Waiting for reviews is always sensible, ahaha.

[copper burrow]

I mean, that's been the goto plan for most marketing now, its crap but it happens for a reason 😄

[rigid thicket]

At least it's only like, 3 weeks worth since pre-orders open March.

It's not Miyoo Flip levels of edging at least 😂

[copper burrow]

oh lord 😄

[rigid thicket]

As far as slow drip hype building tactics go, the turnaround is actually quite short.
It easy to forget when we're checking every second for any new detail drops though, ahaha.

[white prism]

Or switch 2

[jagged blade]

Switch 2 isn't a fair to compare. As there will be new games to play while the rp flip 2 will just play old games.

[copper burrow]

you're spending a lot of time here for someone who isn't going to buy it 😄

[wooden phoenix]

But it isn't. Anbernic doesn't drip hype like retroid. I can't remember a company dragging it out more than retroid. They do it slower than anyone that counts.

[jagged blade]

Once anbernic drops a video all the info is out there. Then wait maybe a week for orders. It ships with in 48 hours of your order.

[rigid thicket]

I mean, they aren't guilt-free of doing a teaser either.
Anbernic 40XXV
First Look Aug 09 No Details - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t22rTfMC-c
Official Promo Aug 18 Full Details - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVMA_5ZUD-I
Available Aug 26

Retroid Flip 2
First Teaser Image Feb 13 No Details - https://x.com/Retroid0fficial/status/1890210491319873567
Official Promo Feb 19 Partial Details - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEgqhkwfHQU
Pre-order Early March
Ships weeks after from what I hear.

But also it's just due to the differences in production process. Anbernic hardware is locked in and stockpiled before orders are available.
Retroid doesn't even have real units until close to pre-order time it seems since they can seemingly change certain hardware details last minute as seen with the RAM increase in the RP5.

Retroid Pocket Official (@Retroid0fficial) on X

Coming soon…

X · Feb 14, 2025, 1:24 AM

Hooopefully this means we can bully them into adding extra dedicated/macro buttons on the Flip 2.

But that's a bit more involved than a RAM swap I suppose.

Oh, what I will agree with is Retroid teasing that Vertical this early is kind of a dick move.

[stray dagger]

I doubt they will add any buttons, the mold is probably already done, given how Chris has an unit

[distant cradle]

We should be getting the next info drop sometime this week. I mean if pre orders start early March they kind of have to give us more soon

[craggy kestrel]

With the stick placement, going to miss this on the Flip 2

[stray dagger]

this looks horrible in the first place

[craggy kestrel]

It's actually not bad at all, better than trying to do it on a miyoo or what have you

I read books regularly in my right hand so weight wise it's decently normal to me lol

[stray dagger]

weight wouldn't be the issue, but how shit the face buttons are to reach

[craggy kestrel]

Obviously it's not going to compare to an RG30 or what have you but I'm not trying to have 50 devices, personally

I don't have to reach at all and I definitely have smaller hands

most shmups only have two buttons, too, so it's really easy to just use b/y (x/square or a/x whatever you want to call them)

[jagged blade]

Looks like your name checks out

[craggy kestrel]

Try it, you'll like it.

[rigid thicket]

You could probably do the same with the screen on the left side for the Flip 2. 🤔
Most shmups are 1/2 buttons so using the dpad for buttons isn't as weird there.

Or...hmm, maybe not, the stick thumb might cramp up real bad with how close to the corner it is 😅

Would be neat if a future Flip device had a screen that could also rotate for Tate/DS.

Maybe some sort of spring tensioned rotation mechanism with pogo pins to enable the screen connection in either orientation.

[onyx hazel]

bro

stop

🤣

[wary briar]

let him cook

we need this device

[frosty oxide]

I was thinking the same, but I couldn't remember if mame had a setting to turn the screen the other way or not. ( its been looonnng time since i built a mame cabinet )
I can see what you are saying, like how winlator uses the Dpad as extra pc keys. ( aka OG Diablo 2, the Dpad is use for belt key commands )

[night rune]

Is there a dual screen of this? Or another device with two screens? This guy told me to join the discord and referenced a bunch of random models but none of them seem to be dual screen 💀

[echo lynx]

magicx❤️

[echo lynx]

was it by any chance someone on reddit?

[night rune]

Instagram, they talked about Magicx but none of their handhelds have two screens

The guy was full of it I think

Big sad

[rigid thicket]

Retroid engineers get on it.

[frosty oxide]

I havn't seen a double screen device yet, and I been here awhile. now I seen some guy used a extra screen and some how got it to work as a double screen.

[echo lynx]

no fucking way

thats me

send screenshots?

[echo lynx]

i wouldnt say full of it more like delusional

yup thats me

[night rune]

I had already blurred the names but yeah those all have one single screen and no hinge

Sure the aspect ratio is better for two displays but.. two screens

[rigid thicket]

Pogo pin connector for power/input between the screen and the rest of the unit would probably help with hinge ribbon cable health in general too. 🤔

[echo lynx]

trust

[night rune]

I’m probably just gonna get a surface duo, a hinged modern dual display is too difficult, I’d be more than happy with older lower quality screens just for battery efficiency reasons

[echo lynx]

wait no they do genuinely have a dual screen in the plans

not threeDS or super sp but the onesp and twosp are there

[frosty oxide]

well you might have been tricked, but this is a cool discord, pull up a chair and hang out. 🍺

[night rune]

Oh I’m staying

[rigid thicket]

The Surface Duo uses AMOLED

[echo lynx]

join the magicx dual screen cult

we already have zeelobby

the sp one 4132 is what we're looking at

41 is top

32 is bottom

[night rune]

Sorry those were two thoughts. The duo is amazing, but a handheld for gaming would chew through battery if it was designed the same. I’d be happy with lower res displays to help cut down on the SOC requirements to further help battery life

Oh and cost, that’s also important

[rigid thicket]

Ah, fair.

[night rune]

Is there any rough design of how it’ll look? Interesting

[echo lynx]

probably like a 3ds

@naive blade did a mockup

of a dual screen

6 inch 16:9 fits in the 3ds xl shell

lets move this to https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1266817458417832110 people here prolly dont care

[coral valley]

I'm more interested in the sp two4532

[echo lynx]

raah super sp

[hybrid viper]

People really will do anything to avoid playing games on their phone with a telescopic controller

[rose swift]

do telescopic controllers come with sd card slots?

[jagged blade]

I forgot people like to load 2TB worth of games on these.

[coral valley]

just in case you know?

[jagged blade]

I have an NAS with 10tb and raid 10 that I keep my back up files on. I hardly go over 128GB worth of games on a handhelds

[fathom geyser]

I do have a TB card in my closet that’s waiting to be used

[plush silo]

I just don't want to put any games at all on my phone taking up space, let alone make it bulkier with a telescopic controller.
That's part of why I even got remotely interested in these emulation handhelds once I learned about them and how good they've gotten a year ago

Having a separate device exclusively for emulation and keeping my phone as my phone just appealed to me

[echo lynx]

ya

idk why but emulation on my phone feels impure

[opaque harbor]

Is it controls? Notification? Battery? Camera notch? Temperature?

[echo lynx]

Nah it's just a weird feeling I get with some stuff

It arbritrarily becomes impure

[opaque harbor]

The shape of the devise?

[echo lynx]

Misnamed folder leads to nagging feeling

And touch controls

And if I carry a controller I have to carry a controller

Any super budget reccomendations?

Just for a bit GBA, SNES and tv play

[opaque harbor]

Budget recommendations?

[echo lynx]

Ya

35xxsp would work if the buttons weren't clicky

[opaque harbor]

A somewhat less then ideal place to ask given this is a mid range devise 😅

[plush silo]

Maybe try asking in #🤷│what-do-i-buy? Not sure if that's the correct/best place for that or not x)

[opaque harbor]

I wonder how the retroid pocket flip 2 shell will feel

[echo lynx]

thanks

[fossil timber]

I have a rg280m up for sale in the marketplace for $35 USD. Plays SNES, GBA without issue, and can handle most PS1.\

[echo lynx]

Is 2.8 inches not a bit smal?

[fossil timber]

It’s fine for stuff like NES, MS, SNES, MD, GB, GBC, and most GBA if your eyes aren’t bad.

[fast sonnet]

so have we gotten anything about the Flip 2 besides that teaser?

[frosty oxide]

nope

[fast sonnet]

fug

[gritty kraken]

Good size comparison from bilibili

[severe ridge]

i think the flip2 is gonna be around the size of a ds lite

[gritty kraken]

And I'd be 100% ok with that

[severe ridge]

it might be a tiny bit thicker but i think it will be fine

[gritty kraken]

It should be really comfortable

And something I haven't seen people talk much about but if it's the same OLED as the RP5 you should get a really nice "magic screen" effect where any letterboxing just blends in and looks like it's part of the plastic

The only sticking point for me is the controls being a bit awkward, at least at first, but something tells me that was done likely to fit a bigger battery

There's no good place to fit a decent battery if you have recessed sticks towards the middle

[amber mason]

If it's similarly thick to the last one I'd be ok with that.

[desert canyon]

if this is true and it comes in all black I will burn my whole collection. my mini, my 405m, rp5, maybe even my pocket s.....ok maybe not my pocket s, but it would likely gather dust.
This is sort of related but i have this weird habit when i'm playing candybar style handhelds to start to rotate as i'm playing as if i'm just holding a controller, so if i don't correct myself i end up holding it flat horizontal. Clamshell systems like the win mini solve this for me.

[amber mason]

I'm probably gonna liquidate my stuff too, though I haven't so far simply because I am lazy.

It comes down to Ergonomics and Small Size being the most important thing for me at this point, and no amount of time makes the Oden Mini comfy lol

[long lichen]

I got the O2 and wasn't interested in the RP5 on release, then fell in love with the screen, but figured the O2 is good enough and more powerful to boot. But every time I travel with the O2 in a case it seems too bulky. If it this is still a 5.5" OLED I might have to bite this time. No case needed, much smaller without sacrificing much, OLED screen, and 'powerful enough' for everything I want to play—at least given the current state of Android emulation.

My only reservation is how much the lack of ergo bumps are going to matter. I've gotten really attached to the built-in grips on the O2 and the CUBE XX. They do add a lot of bulk, though. I wish Retroid had added just a little swell or texture to hold onto, since the triggers extend down anyway.

[tacit latch]

last week we got info drops on Wednesday and Friday

maybe we'll get some bread crumbs tomorrow?

with preorders maybe starting Friday?

[sacred kindle]

stock finna run out in 2 hours

[tacit latch]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

can't run out if you didn't manufacture any prior to preorders

[wooden phoenix]

They will sell a grip, so will Etsy sellers, take a deep breath. They don't need to add bumps to the device for you few when you can easily get a grip, literally lol

[wooden phoenix]

You're obviously new to how retroid releases devices🤣

[severe ridge]

yeah they learned their lesson for the rp5 lol
their suggestion channel for the past 6 months has been 3 main things
when grip, plz giv grip
when flip 2?
when vertical?

there will be a flip grip

[sacred kindle]

Yeah I've watched RGC videos on them; haven't participated much in the server until recently

[wooden phoenix]

They eventually released grips for everything else. I didn't want built in grips. Buy that shit. Leave it flat for everyone else. They can be added, they can't be taken off lol

[wooden phoenix]

They don't produce until the pre-order, unlike anbernic, so you'll pay then wait a month or more for your device

[sacred kindle]

Ohhh interesting

[tawdry dove]

plus the amount of people bitching the RPmini/5 grips werent big enough

[wooden phoenix]

I'm cool with people buying grips. It was one of the reasons I didn't want the rp5/mini. If they had been flat I might have bought them. Smaller handhelds I don't want bumps on.

[severe ridge]

the rpmini is very comfy with its built in grips actually, but the rp5 sucks

i think its more due to the mini having much more of a stick inset tho

[tacit latch]

without question, the stick inset on the mini makes massive difference

I didn't think it'd be that pronounced of a difference but it is

[jagged blade]

Wow this chat is dead

[wooden phoenix]

Nothing new to talk about. Retroid sucks. 🤣

[weak fulcrum]

the marketing is working

[wooden phoenix]

Not for me. I hate how they dribble info. It actually makes me not want to support them. I'd rather have all the info released and wait 3 weeks for preorders to open.

Than. Here's a pic. Next week. Here's a video. Neither of which are the real product. Following week. Look it has internal storage and ram. 😮‍💨

[wooden phoenix]

Oh btw. It's android.🤣

[weak fulcrum]

But you're here talking about it?

[fathom geyser]

They do it the same way every time and I don’t see it changing

[random tulip]

Lol. What an addiction tease

[coral valley]

There's gotta be news by the end of this week

[random tulip]

Or else

...

[icy bramble]

We'll probably know everything within a month, it could be as bad as CRKD with the new guitar (anyone who wants to say anything about them, don't.)

[nova violet]

I think we’ll have some new info in about eight hours

[severe ridge]

@urban jewel which do you think the rp5 screen fits in more like the render here?

[urban jewel]

definitely the new 2DS XL

the ds lite the screen would have zero bezel whatsoever lmao

the 2DS XL it looks like it'd have just about the exact amount of bezel as the render

[robust wedge]

The RGCubeXX is, no lie, the comfiest handheld I have in my collection. Wanna know how often I use it compared the the much flatter, more pocketable RG40XXv?

[severe ridge]

i still wanna get one lol, my only anbernic is the SP currently

[robust wedge]

I was very tempted to get the SP but 3.5" screen isn't cutting it anymore for me.

[random tulip]

I second the cube. I have a RG Cube regular ed, and it is just so damn comfy, haha

honestly looking at handhelds now that only look comfy after trying the RP5 for a bit, lol

[icy bramble]

Lol does the RP5 have picture in picture support? Just out of curiosity.

[prime temple]

FYI just overlayed another size comparison for you guys

[versed vigil]

Well, if we’re talking about just the Flip 2 and not the mystery handheld, I don’t see the reason to be annoyed by those terms when we’d be waiting regardless for something we, more likely than not, already know everything about.

[icy bramble]

Is a Retroid Pocket Flip a sandwich?

[tropic surge]

its a taco

[fast sonnet]

I don't want to revive the hot dog taco debate for the eighth time

[frosty oxide]

you are evil 😄 never mind I misread, man I really need some new glasses.

[icy bramble]

Hot dog?

I don't understand this phase.

But I'm worried for your romantic pursuits.

[opaque harbor]

Weird stuff going on aside 😅, what size do we think the battery would be?

[stray dagger]

pretty sure it's all the same as in the RP5

like using every part they can use from that for the RP Flip2

[opaque harbor]

You think they can fit the retroid pocket 5 internals in a retroid pocket flip 2?

[stray dagger]

they fitted the RP3+ into the Flip, so yeah

simply wouldn't make sense to source completely different stuff instead of just giving what you have a different form factor

[opaque harbor]

Isn't the size difference a bit different in this case?

[stray dagger]

nah, seems pretty fitting to me, especially with how they arranged the layout with both sticks on top, being out of the way of the internals

[wintry oxide]

Nah, they lost one button to make it fit

[midnight mauve]

https://fixupx.com/Retroid0fficial/status/1894719069447729606

[stray dagger]

RP5 and RP4pro Flip

guess they still had a bunch of D1100

[limpid ledge]

Shit you quick than me

[limpid ledge]

I'm shocked you know

BUT THAT GREEN THO I FUCK WITH THAT GREEN

[versed vigil]

Huh…I guess we are getting that “cheaper than RP5” Flip 2.

[limpid ledge]

That's I'm thinking

Plus that's means Rp4pro is gone now

[stray dagger]

I'm calling $199 for the RP4pro Flip and $229 for the RP5 Flip

[limpid ledge]

👆🏾

[versed vigil]

That’s about the same price I was guessing for the RP5 Flip.

[tall lichen]

Honestly as an rp4 pro owner that price point hasn't to be like $150 for it to be considered even then id spend the extra $75 for the 865

[tall lichen]

If the rp4 pro is gone they need to release my idea of an rp5 classic the internals of the RP5 with the body of the rp4 pro and an OLED screen

[young yoke]

i wouldve liked to see some more color options

[echo lynx]

Mhm magicx

Daily drip of actually useful info

[severe steppe]

SD865 sweeeep

[echo lynx]

And they have multiple devices in the pipeline so there's always something to talk about

[jolly kayak]

They made ice blue look so gooooooooooood in that render. I want to eat it like a breath mint

[unkempt ferry]

How much better is the SD 865 vs D1100 ?
I know SD has better driver support but strictly performance

[naive blade]

Hmm.. quite strange.. why is sd865 bt 5.1 then d1100 bt 5.2?

[urban jewel]

A78 cores are more powerful than A77 cores on paper, that's odd

[severe steppe]

D1100 has more raw CPU power

But SD865 wins because of drivers alone (switch, winlator, wii u etc)

[open sonnet]

D1100 is a newer chip. And also a better chip overall aside from the GPU and custom drivers.

[coral valley]

Snapdragon 865 has better compatibility and drivers so it's likely going to be the more expensive option

[jolly kayak]

Sooo hypee

[limpid ledge]

On paper D1100 is better but Real time performance Sd865 takes the win

Plus the sd865 will be more prices because with linux as well

And it's snapdragon

[unkempt ferry]

Please don’t use the same clicky buttons on the RP5

[jolly kayak]

How many devices has Retroid released that didn't have some kink or issue for pre-orders?

[unkempt ferry]

Any new info on the vertical?

[limpid ledge]

Mmm like 3 like rp5 rp mini and rp2s

[unkempt ferry]

I might actually prefer that

[jolly kayak]

Rp mini had screen issues and button scraping

[limpid ledge]

Not like real issues tho

[jolly kayak]

Any issues*

[mystic void]

Much for gaming. Better compatibility, including linux

[limpid ledge]

Okay two devices

Rp5 and rp2s

[jolly kayak]

I'm just super hyped for this flip and im willing to pre order but I don't want my triggers to fall off like rp4 or something

[versed vigil]

Haven’t they consistently changed what the chips for the higher tier devices would be? Like, it’s to the point that it’s actively not even just constant anymore but outright consistent.

[mystic void]

Idk depending on the person screen issues are very real lol

[limpid ledge]

Screen issue actually that bad

[echo lynx]

Very useful for a minute or two

But now they couldvd locked it in

[limpid ledge]

👆🏾👆🏾

[versed vigil]

Right after they locked in for the previous chips?

Or after they locked in to sell the Zero 28 last year?

[echo lynx]

Well that's different

[echo lynx]

What did they lock in last time?

[limpid ledge]

Gamecube and Ps2 you will see the difference the resolution , performance

[versed vigil]

How?

[echo lynx]

That's a delay

Not changed specs

[versed vigil]

What did they say that’s different from last time?

[mystic void]

Who is shocked there's an 865 version lol. Most of these specs could have been guessed. I hate drip feed lol, it's just straight up lame

[echo lynx]

We get the 4nm d7000/d1400 chip for the two series

And the d8300

[versed vigil]

Honestly I won’t even lie, the D1100 version is the literal only thing that surprised me.

[limpid ledge]

I'm not shocked at that but d1100 is the one I'm shocked

[echo lynx]

Over an unnamed chip for super

[versed vigil]

I’m talking about what did they say differently from last time that confirms it would be those chips?

[mystic void]

Only differences:
Chip
Bluetooth chip
Charging speeds

[limpid ledge]

Also the battery because snapdragon have good ass battery life

[echo lynx]

Actual chip numbers

[versed vigil]

Like, the whole reason why I think the drip feed is fine now is solely because “well, we already know it’s the RP5 as a clamshell, and it’s gonna be released in Spring anyways, so why not let them have their fun anyways?”

[echo lynx]

And mediatek confirmation that they can be given the chip

And testing temps and stuff of the two series chip

[limpid ledge]

Because D1100 have a worse battery life than sd865 battery life

[versed vigil]

We got actual chip numbers last time.

[echo lynx]

No

[versed vigil]

And the time before that even.

[echo lynx]

No

[versed vigil]

You realize I can literally go back to the comments right?

[echo lynx]

Please do

[naive blade]

Sure bit it doesn't explain why dimensity version has better bluetooth

what's the point?

[limpid ledge]

People need to remember that having snapdragon mean you will get better battery life

Than D1100

[open sonnet]

The D1100 is newer so it supports newer standards. That's all.

[tall lichen]

Probably built into the chip

[versed vigil]

Here’s the G99 announcement for Touch Two.
#1266817458417832110 message

[plush silo]

Wasn't expecting two Flip 2's, and for one of them to have RP4 Pro internals.
Also happy with the color options. Ice Blue and 16bit US
Want to see what they actually look like from a video though bc Retorid's renders are never fully accurate

Their RPMini's 16bit render on their site makes it look white for example, but in actuality it's grey

[versed vigil]

And here it is originally being stated as a D1080 device.
#1266817458417832110 message

[versed vigil]

I haven’t even gotten into the “previous naming scheme” stuff yet.

[mystic void]

Anyways the device looks sick as a handheld, drip fed info is lame, that is all

[echo lynx]

I don't see chip temperature testing results by magicx or confirmations by Sean that mediatek has agreed to source these chips

[limpid ledge]

Also people also have to know in the future gamma os will come to Rp5 and Rpmini as well

[ivory star]

i don't get the D1100 variant, apart from emptying their D1100 stocks
Because even at 30$ less, it's not worth picking up given the snapdragon platform benefits

[unkempt ferry]

Any news on the vertical

[versed vigil]

Eh, it’s lame, but it’s also completely pointless since we already know what it’s gonna be, so I just think it’s fine to let them have their fun with it (since them announcing everything at once won’t stop them from releasing it in spring).

[echo lynx]

That's also September of last year

[limpid ledge]

So flip 2 being sd865 it's better all around device

[versed vigil]

Those were all official announcements for the planned chips that they were negotiating.

[open sonnet]

If I were to buy it (which I won't) I would get the D1100 tbh. Paying extra for an old snapdragon is not my cup of tea.

[limpid ledge]

I will get flip 2 d1100 and rp mini

Or flip 2 d1100 and rp5

Win win for me

[plush silo]

You gotta also take into account shipping and taxes. That stuff adds up quickly.
This is assuming it's only a $30 difference between the two

[mystic void]

Lol flip 2 and RP5 seems like a crazy waste

[limpid ledge]

True true but in the uk the taxes is not too bad lucky

[versed vigil]

Not if they don’t have the RP4 Pro.

Then it just becomes the same waste as having both the RP4 Pro and the RP5 (so technically not as much as having the RP5 and SD Flip 2).

[limpid ledge]

Not really

We got options

[mystic void]

The snapdragon is better for the use case though. Like I don't get it. I'd rather get an older Honda engine than a new jeep engine

[echo lynx]

But they didnt have the testing or confirmations

[limpid ledge]

If you want 4:3 go to rpmini if you want to 16:9 get a rp5 and if you love clamshell get a filp 2 easy money

[echo lynx]

I'm operating on the assumption that Magicx lies often

But this is proof they aren't lying in this circumstance

[versed vigil]

Most companies don’t even give that info out. MagicX felt the need to directly because of the issues they were facing regarding trying to fit active cooling into the design.

[limpid ledge]

Plus Retroid pocket flip 2 is most andorid power clamshell right now

[plush silo]

RP5 for Winlator/Linux stuff, RPFlip2 D1100 for everything else?
Idk, I think I was doing something like that and could afford it, RP Flip 2 and Odin 2 Portal would be better?
But if it works for you, I won't say you're wrong or wasting for doing it

[limpid ledge]

Just like rp mini with 4:3

[versed vigil]

…That actually is a pretty good analogy for the difference.

[plush silo]

I'm wanting to do Flip 2 and Steam Deck. Idk yet what chip I want on Flip 2. Depends on price difference

[limpid ledge]

👆🏾👆🏾

[mystic void]

Oh bro I'm not trying to police what you do/ do with your money. Go for it. But I can't be convinced getting an rp5 and a flip is a semi logical move lol. Just get the 865 flip and you knock out two birds one stone

[stray dagger]

well, some people are pretty pressed for cash and designing a slightly different mainboard ain't the biggest effort, so yeah it's basically emptying out the remaining D1100 SoCs

[limpid ledge]

Oh oh

I understand now

[waxen jolt]

my personal prediction, 179 for the D1100 flip and 229 for the 865 flip

[limpid ledge]

I will take that like mf

[versed vigil]

And some more PS2 for 865. Plus whatever lightweight switch stuff you have in your backlog.

[unkempt ferry]

No clicky buttons this time …..please Retroid

[waxen jolt]

the rp4 and pro are currently not being stocked back so it has some possibility behind it

[versed vigil]

Yeah, that’s pretty much my exact predictions.

[versed vigil]

But yeah, I’d say the D1100 is actually a pretty good option for people who don’t care as much about Winlator.

[waxen jolt]

pretty damn good option if you only care about weaker systems like PSP, GBA, etc etc etc

[versed vigil]

Especially now that it’s in a Retroid handheld with a really good screen (since that was like, one of the biggest downsides for the RP4 Pro, even if it wasn’t as bad of a screen as the O2 Mini’s).

[stray dagger]

I doubt the 179 for the D1100 flip, sure they save some money on the SoC, but everything else will be the RP5 parts

[limpid ledge]

Even gamecube yes it's not better than sd 865 but it's no joke

[plush silo]

At the least, I think the D1100 Flip 2 has more reason to exist than the base RP4 even if the price difference ends up being only like $30.
The difference between 4 and 4 pro was massive for just the $35-50 difference, was insane

[versed vigil]

Makes more sense to be cheaper if they’re using the same parts than if they were buying new “old” stock parts for the D1100 Flip 2.

[north grove]

Looks like a lot more plastic at least. Not the full glass front.

[waxen jolt]

good

[plush silo]

Personally appreciate them not going full glass.
Good for durability

[limpid ledge]

Even better

[stray dagger]

may actually come down to 189/219 for the Flip due to them saving money there, but I doubt it

[mystic void]

I think the only thing I don't like is the l2/r2 positioning looks crazy weird on here

[north grove]

Right, we're probably trading glass for hinge parts.

[mystic void]

But otherwise looks solid. A bit ugly but solid as an actual handheld

[north grove]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think that clear green is peak design!

[frozen robin]

how far is rocknix on the rp5?

[stray dagger]

the pac-man on the lid is still eww

[mystic void]

I've also grown to never trust render colors from retroid lol

[mystic void]

Pardon

[open sonnet]

For my use case I'd rather pay less. Like, for what? GC and PS2? The D1100 can handle it just fine. Winlator? Not interested. And what else?

[stray dagger]

given how they named it ICE BLUE, it's probably the same as the color on the RP3+/RP4(pro), so not really green at all

[stray dagger]

Linux, Switch, pretty likely to see GammaOS one day

[limpid ledge]

Gamma os Linux Better battery life

[mystic void]

No but you are kinda switching it up now. Your main case before was that the d1100 was newer. That here doesn't matter. If now you want to pay less, then completely fine

[limpid ledge]

Gamma did confirmed in the future we will see Gamma os on rp5, rpmini

[stray dagger]

battery life should be fairly similar, even have an slight edge for the D1100 given how it now runs with the OLED panel as well?

[limpid ledge]

Nah even with Oled having snapdragon make it better alone

[open sonnet]

Don't care about Linux nor Gamma if there's a proper Android rom, tbh. Won't even touch Linux. Battery life should be comparable or maybe even better on the D1100 with an OLED.

[limpid ledge]

But for me tho I don't really care

[echo lynx]

They haven't before. They haven't given out info about how mediatek confirmed the three series chip before either

[stray dagger]

just going by benchmarks tbh and there the D1100 actually scores A VERY LITTLE bit better

honestly the SD SoC is still preferable for emulation

but the D1100 is pretty solid and actually has the better GPU

[open sonnet]

I'd rather pay less if the snapdragon doesn't give me any benefits, yeah.

[versed vigil]

I wonder if the other Flip 2 having a D1100 will make it any more or less likely to get GammaOS considering the work he’s doing with the D1200.

[stray dagger]

higher upscale for GCN tho

[echo lynx]

It does thouhh

[mystic void]

It does but they don't matter to you and that's fine

[plush silo]

Gonna wait to see how the colors actually look in person like I said earlier, but leaning towards the Ice Blue.
If it’s the same Ice Blue as on the Flip 1 and RP4, want it for sure

[mystic void]

If the cost savings is better go for it

[versed vigil]

God damnit, please do not bring that nonsense back up.

[waxen jolt]

lmao imagine if the 865 one has better audio

[echo lynx]

Wait what happened why are we discussing these chips?

[limpid ledge]

😭😭😭😭

[waxen jolt]

the rp5 sound fix is using qualcomm specific tools so what if the same situation happens here

[limpid ledge]

Rns is fed up right now 😭😭🤣

[versed vigil]

We literally have already been pointing out how flawed that metric has been for several months at this point, I refuse to go back to when we were unironically believing that stuff again.

[waxen jolt]

the D1100 vs 865 discourse been going dince September 2024, let it rest

[mystic void]

I'm just hoping the screen doesn't have built in output issues, but surely retroid will fix those /s

[limpid ledge]

Deffo not if rp4pro didn't get gamma os flip d1100 is not getting that either

[versed vigil]

Please! For the love of god people!

[limpid ledge]

In the end of the day both flip 2 models are the powerful andorid clamshell so far and affordable

[versed vigil]

Like, we can even keep talking about the use case vs price again, just don’t go back to the fucking benchmarks that we’ve already seen for multiple months were worthless as a metric for performance!

[mystic void]

Honestly I'm amazed people fight about what version to get. Like idk, why the fuck does it matter, just get what you want, others get what they want, ez lol

[limpid ledge]

I thought I will like black but white and ice blue is like MAMMA MIA

[versed vigil]

Because they have to convince the people split in the middle to get what they like.

[limpid ledge]

So sexy🥰

[mystic void]

The loudest people play their handhelds the least I swear lol

[versed vigil]

Even if they’re only asking about “I just want up to GC/PS2”.

In which case I would agree that D1100 is more worthwhile, but if they also want Winlator then I’d say SD865 is better instead.

[open sonnet]

Yeah, not worth paying more. But eh, either way, I'm not getting the Flip 2 anyway lol.

[mystic void]

Then get the fuck out

/s.

[stray dagger]

That would be fun

the mayhem this would cause

[limpid ledge]

That's actually make sense

D900 will replace rp4

[stray dagger]

I would still grab the SD865 vertical if it's really a Ayaneo Pocket DMG for 199bucks

[limpid ledge]

So the lineup Rp Vertical Rpmini Rp5 And Both Flip 2 modes means Lakers in 5

[versed vigil]

Nah, you want real mayhem? Make it with an SD865, but then it has the D900 as an alternative option, like this has with the D1100.

[stray dagger]

that's basically was what we were talking about, wasn't it?

[mystic void]

H700*

[waxen jolt]

D900 on the vertical wouldn't be horrible tbh

[stray dagger]

they ain't going to grab more of the old SoCs, but designing a different board is lil effort, so they do that and drop the remaining chips that way

it would be complete lunacy if they only did a D900 vertical

[versed vigil]

Yes, except now we’ll have people arguing whether D900 for like $110-$130 in a vertical is more worthwhile or not.

[mystic void]

And Deez nuts for 2016

[waxen jolt]

110 D900 with square-y amoled?

don't stop cooking lmao

[limpid ledge]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[limpid ledge]

Bro for d900 it's worthwhile no matter what

Ayaneo Dmg is basically DOA

[versed vigil]

Yup, but “the SD865 is only like $80-$90 more, so it’s worth paying more”.

[wooden phoenix]

They should make a mystery vertical channel for you guys. 🤔😅

[versed vigil]

Let’s see it be a repeat of the RP4 base model this time.

[waxen jolt]

pocket DMG is currently 419$ on sale

[plush silo]

I’ve seen Youtubers and people in general unironically say “only $100” more for other kinds of tech as if $100 wasn’t a lot of money for a good portion of people 😅

[limpid ledge]

419 kiss my ass with 419 bullshit no offend to Russ and everyone like dmg

[plush silo]

They hyperfocus too much on the difference being comparatively small in a vacuum

[stray dagger]

I would think more like 149-159 for the D900 variant and 199-209 for the SD865 tbh

[waxen jolt]

it wasn't that much before lmao

it's just that it left iGG

pocket evo is like 500$ now

[versed vigil]

Yup, if there’s one thing I’ll 100% make fun of, it’s people claiming that “$80 more for the Odin 2 base model with the shitty screen is more worthwhile than the RP5 with the gorgeous OLED panel” isn’t a nonsense comparison, and I’ll still keep making fun of them if they try pulling that with a D900 Vertical that’s only like $110-$120.

[mystic void]

Back on the flip 2, I'm just glad they have a solid inset and most important stick top

[waxen jolt]

the og odin 2 with the terrible dpad ergos

[stray dagger]

I mean, rg406v isn't an AMOLED display and still about that price, so Retroid would probably still sell off the vertical with a D900

[limpid ledge]

With no even headphones jack

[limpid ledge]

Amen

And With Oled Double blessing

[versed vigil]

The OG Odin 2 with the horrid Ghosting and the lousy input latency compared to other options, including even other Odin 2’s.

[versed vigil]

“Totally more worthwhile than an RP5”.

[limpid ledge]

Also the size is little smaller than 3ds xl

👀

[stray dagger]

I don't know if I dig this being even smaller 🤔

[limpid ledge]

It's like powkiddy x18s size

Bigger than flip 1

[stray dagger]

don't have that, but anyway

(new) 3ds Xl was like 159x93x22, this is 141x90x24

[limpid ledge]

Yeah that's mean it's will smaller but not that small

Like flip 1

Right size

[stray dagger]

the (new) 3ds non-xl was 142x81x22

so we are pretty close to that actually

[limpid ledge]

Flip 1 is like Ds Lite Flip 2 is like Ds XL

[plush silo]

I have the 2DS XL and find that very pocketable.
So this being a similar size is a huge W

[versed vigil]

I’m actually surprised no one’s commented yet on the fact the charging speeds on the SD865 model are like almost 10W more than the D1100 one.

[versed vigil]

Granted, this isn’t exactly the right way to say “charging speeds” but it gets the message through.

[limpid ledge]

Snapdragon charges more quickly than Dimes

[plush silo]

Oh yeah, I did see that being different but didn’t comment on it x)
Definitely nice for people who charge them during the day

I charge my stuff overnight, so for me, it’s not as essential a spec, but still nice

[versed vigil]

Yeah exactly, I’m just surprised no one mentioned it since it’s now just point blank saying it in the actual spec sheet.

[limpid ledge]

Because we still war out they got d1100 and just compare the performance difference

[stray dagger]

I mean, we were aware, but why point it out when it's not really an issue for 99% of the people

it's not like we charge these every two days like a phone

[versed vigil]

Because it’s nice.

[limpid ledge]

It's like this It's not important but it's essential for people who want to play the game straight away if that's makes sense

Or don't Want longer

Especially they have somewhere to go

[versed vigil]

Ok I wouldn’t say it like that, I’d moreso say it’s nice for people who like it being faster to charge.

[limpid ledge]

Okay it's like having steam deck and rog ally

Rog ally support fast charger

So in one hour it would be full charge

Steam deck take it bit longer

[mystic void]

I gotchu

[dusky ferry]

As long as it can work fine with a PD charger and a usb c-c cable, don't really care about charging speed.

[mystic void]

Likely people just don't care about bt and charging speed that much

[limpid ledge]

Like my phone now support charger and it's quicker than my old phone

[versed vigil]

There we go! I knew someone had to have pointed it out, which is why it felt weird when I didn’t see that. Looks like its because I just missed yours.

[limpid ledge]

Yeah it's not too bad

[plush silo]

Is the difference between Bt5.1 and 5.2 even that significant at all?

[mystic void]

Honestly don't know, probably not, if one had some low latency codec that would matter more, but then again you'd need proper headphones anyways

[limpid ledge]

Not really different

I know reddit will having big discussion

[plush silo]

I figured the likely cheaper chip having better BT is because of it being newer anyways, but yeah, shouldn’t be a big deal imo.
If it was 5.3 instead on the “cheaper” chip, that’d be a different issue altogether and something I’d actually find weird x3

[plush silo]

Ah Reddit…
The epitome of positivity and nuance /j

[copper burrow]

Huh, two diffrent specs, fair 😄

otherwise all the specs lineup

[white prism]

They said there wouldn’t be any until the flip2 starts shipping

[wooden phoenix]

That was a long conversation about...charging speeds. We literally have to beat every little thing to death. 🤣

[copper burrow]

Get out of here with your reasonable remarks 😄

[limpid ledge]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[plush silo]

Are you talking about in here or in the Retroid server?

Fail to see how that was long at all if we’re talking about here. That was more brief than a lot of the other aspects we’ve talked about

[dusky ferry]

Is the back of the device completely flat? And did they announce any plans for grip etc?

[versed vigil]

Oh thank god, they’re finally being more careful about that.

[sacred kindle]

context?

[versed vigil]

Context is that me and someone else on here had a convo about the fact that they probably should’ve announced and released the RP5 before they announced the RP Mini, just to give themselves more time to find and fix any kinks before release just by focusing on making the RP5 good, and then using those updates for the RP Mini.

[sacred kindle]

makes sense

[cyan seal]

I'm all in on the 865 Flip2, either in ice blue or indigo

Hyped

Glad I held off on the 5

[versed vigil]

And now it looks like they’re actually doing that.

[random tulip]

Clearly going with the SD865 as well

[versed vigil]

Long? That was a like 2-3 minutes of discussion, we’ve talked about other stuff way longer on here.

[plush silo]

D1100 for me more than likely if it’s cheaper enough, Ice Blue or 16bit US.
Gonna have a Steck Deck more than likely or some sort of PC Handheld as my main device, so I don’t absolutely need the Snapdragon 🙂

[random tulip]

Ice blue and SNES are fire

[sacred kindle]

hopefully by the time i get settled in a job the rp4 pro will have dripped down to 150$

[polar whale]

250$ flip 2?

[random tulip]

It'll just have better performance on most emulators in general. Optimization for SD is pretty common

[random tulip]

I'm still guessing like 230 to 240. But 250 is probably safe. Now that there's two options they'll probably feel more comfortable pushing one higher

[plush silo]

Well, yeah. It will.
But if I can spend less for what I’ll mainly play (GC, PS2 and Wii as the top stuff on it), then I’m fine spending less on something not as optimized

[versed vigil]

Yeah, but if they’re only really interested in up to GC level stuff, then the D1100 will be fine enough (assuming it’s like $180-$185 versus the 865 Flip being $230).

[sacred kindle]

300$ for snapdragon flip 2 with extra stuff like SD card and what not

[sacred kindle]

220$ for D1100 flip 2

[random tulip]

Yeah. It may be less of livable performance, and more, how much of each can you play on it

[waxen jolt]

hell nah

less than 200 for sure

[sacred kindle]

but the flip form factor would cost extra

[plush silo]

For sure

[random tulip]

It'd have to be. No one would buy it

[sacred kindle]

and the current RP4 Pro is sub 200$

[versed vigil]

How was that your breaking point and not the $300 865 price tag?

[waxen jolt]

I just tabbed back in

if the 865 flip 2 is 250 or more, it's just not worth it

[versed vigil]

Ah, so you weren’t aware yet of that wild comment.

[random tulip]

Right. But in this future world are they still selling the rp4 pro

[coral valley]

The future world being march

[waxen jolt]

calling it, 179-189 (maybe 199?) for the d1100 flip 2
240-ish for the 865 flip 2

[limpid ledge]

This is correct price

[ancient robin]

If you want a comparison, our wonderful Derek made one

https://youtu.be/zj8laRK2-xg

[versed vigil]

If Retroid announced the 865 Flip 2 is over $250, I’m calling it an early April Fools joke.

Like outright even the original Flip was only $10 more than the RP3+.

[random tulip]

Yeah. But I mean is it even still in production? Or does the rp4 pro price just drop lower

[sacred kindle]

surprisingly yes
The RP4 base is out of stock save for 1 color

[waxen jolt]

ice blue and watermelon iirc are the only ones left

[random tulip]

Yeah. But def not making it

[waxen jolt]

for the pro, iirc all but one are still there

[sacred kindle]

i checked just now
only watermelon left for the base

[random tulip]

Either way they're happy if it's lower than 200 but higher than the rp4 pro

People either pay slightly less and clear pro stock. Or slightly more and buy new flips

Especially if they drop the rp4 pro to like $165

[copper burrow]

this is also gonna be the first highish end clamshell in a long time (rp flip was good but wasnt exactly high end) so price point is prob going to reflect that

[random tulip]

Meh

They could have gutted people on OLED

But the RP5 was pretty reasonable

[versed vigil]

It literally only costed $10 more the first time, and that was the one where they actually had to come up with it from scratch. This is them basing it on an earlier design and only needing to update it for fixing previous flaws.

[random tulip]

People too Apple brained

[waxen jolt]

on my end it does show ice blue for sale

[random tulip]

"the year is one higher, therefore it's gotta be at least $100 more"

[versed vigil]

Literally any price increase higher than $10 is already gonna be unbelievable, a $30 to $80 price increase is outright them being stupidly greedy.

[copper burrow]

Different times and a bunch of different specs, so I'm not holding my breath on it 'only' being 10 more than the og rp5

[random tulip]

Like if it's near $300, people just aren't buying it. Lots of great stuff that performs better at $300

[versed vigil]

And you’d believe $80 more?

[copper burrow]

Don't think it'll be 80 more, but i won't be surprised at all if it's around 240 for the snapdragon version. Hopefully, it'll be lower

[versed vigil]

That’s also not how this stuff works. The original Flip outright added extra stuff beyond just the hinge (analog triggers, an actual fan, the Hall effect sliders being a sidegrade that still costed money to source).

[copper burrow]

A powerful highish end clamshell android is what people have wanted for a very long time and retroid knows it. I hope it'll only be 10 more at best, i'm just not going to be surprised if its more

[sacred kindle]

huh
must be a regional thing maybe

[versed vigil]

And this is them literally only having just the hinge this time.

[copper burrow]

you know you don't have to reply to yourself, right? 😄

[versed vigil]

How am I the only person here who does the “reply to yourself if you want to continue a comment, but people talked in between it”?

[white prism]

Linux only on one of them

[versed vigil]

Like, I’m not even the only one who does it in most of the servers I’m in. How is it this specific server the literal only one where people go “why are you doing that? That’s weird.”

[random tulip]

I mean sometimes self replies make sense. But if your just continuing a conversation it's unnecessary. I guess the alternative is you just write more in a single comment and finish the thought process rather than chaining.

Not gonna lie, most people won't follow that chain

Not that I find anything wrong with it

Just an observation

[copper burrow]

I mean, you are the only person I've seen who does that, and I'm in over 40 servers 😄

[sacred kindle]

what's wrong with self-replying to continue making a point

[versed vigil]

That’s pretty much it, except if you thought of something new, you can’t exactly just edit the first one to add that and expect people to read that.

[random tulip]

Cause you can just keep talking

[copper burrow]

Nothing is wrong with it, it's something thats prob not necessary

[random tulip]

You don't have to self reply. Most people can follow a conversation. Unless you continue it 24 hours later

[limpid ledge]

Guys

It's okay

[sacred kindle]

people have different ways of communicating

[random tulip]

Yeah. I didn't say it's not. Just interesting

[limpid ledge]

We are not going to fight here

Take lesson from me

[versed vigil]

I literally cannot understate the fact that I outright learned to do this from people complaining that I don’t make it easy to follow my comments by not doing that.

[random tulip]

And I always have to double-check whether he's replying to himself or someone else's actual comment 😆

[echo lynx]

Two models? What did I miss??

[versed vigil]

Like, you’re currently telling me the exact opposite of what people have been telling me since I first started using discord.

[copper burrow]

Having a conversation with myself is often a good way for me to get intelligent responses so i get the reasoning behind it 😄

[sacred kindle]

d1100 (rp4pro) and snapdragon (rp5)

[plush silo]

Model with RP4 Pro internals and another model with RP5 basically

[sacred kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-rude-kim-kardashian-dont-be-fucking-rude-mad-gif-15969435

[echo lynx]

That's all we've done the whole day

[random tulip]

It helps that his handle is blue and most others arent

[copper burrow]

it's funny seeing people lose shit over specs, i can always guarantee a good chuckle being in this channel 😄 just the price to go, thats the killer one

[hybrid viper]

$220-250 guaranteed, we don't even need to speculate

[limpid ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-dwayne-wade-heat-basketball-dunk-gif-692501932652649347

[limpid ledge]

Me replying myself

[random tulip]

Are people losing shit?

[sacred kindle]

280$ for the snapdragon (i'm a pessimist)

[limpid ledge]

Hey it's not reddit so we are fineeee

[random tulip]

I mean I'd never go with the lower version but there's the higher, so sounds good to me

[limpid ledge]

That's cheeky behavior

[random tulip]

And if they higher is above 250 I'll probably just skip. Maybe 260

[versed vigil]

Yup

“god the drip feed is awful”

-We literally just found out stuff that were 3 separate posts for the RP5, and the literal only thing that was a surprise was the D1100 variant.

[copper burrow]

I see that being a very hard sell if it is that much...... but.... its not completely out of the picture

[plush silo]

I see it as just discussing the specs and sharing opinions on em.
I wouldn't call it "losing our shit" x)

[copper burrow]

I should put /s at end of some of my posts in here it seems, might be helpful 😄

[plush silo]

/s my beloved

[random tulip]

The best

But yeah. Too close to $300 and I'd get something else

[sacred kindle]

odin 2 ? 😳

[plush silo]

Idk who came up with tone indicators first, but it's been genuinely helpful to use em for online discussions

[limpid ledge]

Hell I will get flip 2 d1100 that power is enough

[random tulip]

Honestly, I'd be tempted 😆

[versed vigil]

We’re apparently losing our minds and talking to ourselves just to make self-replies look weird. The Flip 2 channel outright has a field of insanity that makes you more prone to arguments if you’re in here.

[copper burrow]

battery life in high end emulation turned me off the rp4 pro 😦 it's not too bad i guess

[limpid ledge]

Plus since Odin 2 models are getting linux make flip 2 model d1100 better price

[sacred kindle]

260$ snapdragon max

[random tulip]

Honestly if it's too high I'll just wait for their vertical

[limpid ledge]

Yeahhh but hopefully with oled it can help bit

[random tulip]

And not pay the "flip is a unique flower and therefore we're charging more" tax

[echo lynx]

This channel is quite argumentative, the magicx channel is so much calmer

[mystic void]

280? That would be doa. Likely 260 too

[limpid ledge]

It's like this I'm glad we got device that can play ps2 Amen

[plush silo]

People are super passionate about retro handhelds from what I've seen and noticed. It happens. And Flip 2 is a very anticipated follow-up to a beloved Retroid device.
Long as we're not being dicks to each other, don't mind it too much

[limpid ledge]

Way better than last 2 years

We suffer from t618 days

[echo lynx]

Rp flip 1 was t618?

[limpid ledge]

Yep