Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[fathom geyser]

Actually I might be wrong on the limited colors because I swear I’ve seen like a genuine rare colored RP2, but I’ve only been in this hobby since the Flip and the 2S

[echo lynx]

Super SP!

[fluid stone]

Best ergo is actually to just not play video games anymore

[formal latch]

I fucking hate this gif because everytime I see it, I'm just like "Dude, that's either a library card or an employee swipe ID, gtfo of here"
(Not to you posting it, the dude in the gif)

[formal latch]

You're right, now all I do is set devices and games up, and then get tired of playing them after 10-20 minutes

[rigid thicket]

Hot take: 3rd party joycons with proper ergos in split mode are the most comfortable. You can have your hands/arms in whatever position you want.

[ocean cedar]

I feel seen

It took me 3 days to install and update all the games on my new n3dsxl

I haven’t played a single game yet

[gentle badge]

Lenovo legion go supremacy

[fluid stone]

I've been wanting a good set of ergonomic split controllers that work on pc for a while now. I have the mobapad m6s and it's really nice using them split, I wish split controllers were way more popular than they are

[fathom geyser]

It takes me like not even an hour to set up a retroid device

[rigid thicket]

Someone needs to make some split controllers that use 2.4ghz and normal input methods so I have a proper PC option.

[steady osprey]

I'm seriously considering grabbing one now that prices are plummeting with the Go 2 hitting soon

Someone selling for $420 nearby

[ocean cedar]

Get it

The screen is the best non oled screen I own

[gentle badge]

I don't have a legion go but I have a y700 tablet with the same screen and yeah its super nice

1600p 16:10 is real nice for retro stuff in particular, crt emulation, etc

[echo lynx]

Same screen?

Hmm

[random tulip]

Now that I got the process down. Keymapper, Odin tools, Syncthings, it goes much faster

[fluid stone]

apparently the legion go 2 controllers are planned to be sold separately so here's hoping that's an option!

[echo lynx]

with better ergonomics that would be a great option

or they just make it big

[ocean cedar]

If they fit the lego 1 that might solve the problem of cutting into your hands

I have the comfort grips but they make it not really fit the case without bulging

And that bothers me lol

[rigid thicket]

That's exciting, I'll have to see how comfortable they are and how they're priced.

8bitdo makes every other controller feel so expensive.

Other than random chinese 3rd party stuff anyway.

[tacit gorge]

owning a sport red flip i can tell you that’s not the color you want.

[tacit gorge]

i mean if all you want to do is look at it, then sport red is amazing

[opal zenith]

Haha so no full black option on the sheets pfffs

[night vessel]

I want white with grey buttons back

[formal latch]

This is why I never get anything bright coloured, because I end up finding the colour distracting

[fluid stone]

You're also more likely to get pulled over if you play on a sports red model so it's really not worth it

[formal latch]

😂

[formal latch]

Bold of you to assume real gamerz go outside

[tacit gorge]

no the color is absolutely amazing. until you touch it. it turns into a smudgy mess immediately.

seriously i didn’t think the smudges would bother me that much. but they do.

[formal latch]

Oh really? That's not what I was expecting at all

[tacit gorge]

every review on yt mentioned it but i thought how bad can it be.

well it’s real bad lol

i also have a black flip and these two are night and day as far as smudginess goes.

[random tulip]

Yeah. The black ain't bad.

[tacit latch]

alright it's February 7th where's Retroid

we want our flip 2 reveal

[gentle badge]

retroid after the leak

[jagged blade]

There was a leak?

[tacit gorge]

a retroid employee (dude goes by the name joey) insinuating retroid might do a flip 2 in a yt video

[gentle badge]

there is a leak that joey is aware of

[jagged blade]

Call the Mayor that dam is going to break.

[fathom geyser]

Joey has been talking about Flip 2 since it got discontinued, he’s mentioned it in tons of reviews and newscasts and for whatever reason the time he mentioned it in the Miyoo Flip video it blew up

[gentle badge]

because one of the retroid employees flipped out at people privately this time, basically confirming it was legit

[jagged blade]

Using Occam's razor any person could of guess there be an RP Flip 2. Hardly a leak.

[gentle badge]

the leak was retroid flipping out over it

[jagged blade]

Show the receipts?

[formal latch]

How many times are we going to see this pun 🤣

[gentle badge]

I am not going to share DMs that could get a retroid employee fired lmao

[jagged blade]

Nothing then. Wasted enough time here.

[gentle badge]

cool

[tacit gorge]

if this is true, instead of officially stating that they won’t ever touch this again not too long ago, they just could’ve said “listen guys, flip 1 didn’t work too well for us, but we know you are interested to see a flip 2. we are looking at different options and share news as soon as there is something to share. peace out.”

[fathom geyser]

They never stated they won’t ever touch it again

They only stated “no plans”

Even when Chris was on the RH Podcast a few months ago he said he himself would like to see another Flip eventually and to “never say never” pretty much

[jagged blade]

Wait we are going off what a discord mod says? OH MY.

[gentle badge]

nope

[gentle badge]

they also claimed the rp mini leak was fake and then a week later showed off... the rp mini

[jagged blade]

Looks like it. It's all speciation.

[gentle badge]

for some it is

for others it isn't

there is some information asymmetry going on

[jagged blade]

Like I said. Anyone in the space could guess that a Flip2 was going to happen.

never Joey

[gentle badge]

yeah but then retroid gave up the game when they flipped out over it

[jagged blade]

Sure.

[tacit gorge]

if they do a flip 2 i’m hoping they put a 5.5 inch screen into the old shell, because the form factor is pretty much perfect.

bigger screen, same overall dimensions.

[tacit latch]

feel like this channel is going in circles now

@blazing burrow how's the survey going?

[night vessel]

Survey 😅 still hoping this is a marketing stunt and we will see some teasers soon. I think the first flip was also released in march?

[gentle badge]

I’m curious to what extent handheld companies are willing to pause everything until they figure out what the hell the USA is doing vs just going full steam ahead for the rest of the world

This might actually give us some insight as to how much of their market is the USA - I get the impression that for ayn and retroid the USA is a huge market, while powkiddy/anbernic/ayaneo do a lot elsewhere including way more domestic sales in China.

[jagged blade]

Take it to #742753724786540617

[gentle badge]

Just speculating on whether we will see any teases from retroid this February

Given the chaos

I expect rp5 sales will be the biggest determinant on when they tease something new

Wait for those to slow down before dropping the next thing

[jagged blade]

Does the leaker share that information also?

[gentle badge]

Why are you so pointlessly hostile over retro handhelds?

If you don’t find a conversation interesting nobody is forcing you to participate

[jagged blade]

I am just asking.

You have said you have insider info. How much info are you getting?

[random tulip]

Again this was a 3d printed prototype that was likely not in production but with interest they might do something

That and insider info that's not public. So not really a leak

Unless the insider info is that they saw the same prototype. In which case were still in the same place

So we're left with "there is renewed interest to make one and maybe they'll take our input"

[vagrant wyvern]

I'm confused. There are actually two Joeys involved in the microdrama?

Joey the youtuber and Joey the ex-Retroid employee?

[random tulip]

Joeys have an innate gene that inevitably manifests in leak drama

[vagrant wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-friends-tv-friendstv-tvfriends-tv-friends-gif-1191517909364263727

[jagged blade]

Just trust them bro. They know everthing.

[random tulip]

It is funny that this thread was created on purely this. Lol

But if it manifests a flip 2 I'm all on board

[sweet rune]

the thread was created based on my ability to manifest things

[random tulip]

Has been fun to fever dream features at least

[tacit gorge]

lead the way, sir!

[sweet rune]

Just putting this out here, if a mod or someone else with insider information wants to share said information in bad faith or in possible breach of NDAs, don't DM me. I'll spill the beans

even if I wanted to be cagey about it, I'd probably end up telling the whole story and naming names on accident during a podcast

[random tulip]

Man. You're supposed to say you won't! And then do it anyway

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/straight-shooter-pointing-keep-it-real-keeping-it-real-honest-gif-26671871

[tacit gorge]

he knows why we watch his content 😉

[echo lynx]

Precisely

No reason to be hostile

Theorizing is enjoyable and there's no reason to not make a thread over speculation

[blazing burrow]

Thanks everyone for your responses to the survey! I have published the results and sent to Retroid:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cKjEFc0l4mzgT6x7YEmOEs0DPvjKiPKYerXH7Kt1YnQ/viewanalytics

AI Summary: https://chatgpt.com/canvas/shared/67a68d3777388191a859781679434f56
(thanks @strange glen )

[strange glen]

So basically a RP5 Flip

[versed vigil]

Vita/GBA SP Quiet Clicky buttons win!

[blazing burrow]

Retroid is back in office today and they are pretty stoked on what the community has come up with here

And were anxious to see the results, so we ended this a few days early

Sounds like they are cooking something, stay tuned!

[strange glen]

It's crazy to see so many responses. Hope we will see it happen. We should do more of this kind of survey. It helps the companies instead of them guessing what people want and players get what they want. Thanks for organizing everything.

[blazing burrow]

Absolutely! Let's do these more often. They find the data super valuable.

[severe ridge]

please do not give me joycon/brick buttons lol

[fluid stone]

CLICKY BUTTONS

Join the clicky button cult

[naive blade]

I am pretty suprised people ended up not really voting for sliders

[chrome cargo]

custom answers was a mistake

its so hard to read

the answers are interesting though

[jagged blade]

We only want 6GB of RAM?

[versed vigil]

Not just that, it’s the Quiet Clicky buttons from the Vita, and more importantly the RP 4/5/Mini.

[versed vigil]

I’m annoyed my “5:3 or 3:2 as long as they put the Speakers on each side of the screen, like with the DS line of consoles, and if they use the RPMini screen then do the same thing” didn’t show up.

I put it in both the screen and speaker votes, and neither showed up.

[blazing burrow]

This is my first ever google form and I agree hahaha, my first thought when I saw the results page. I went:

But also yeah, some great answers, it just takes a while to read

[strange glen]

I think you can put all inputs to chatgpt and ask it to summarize

[chrome cargo]

the main problem isnt all of the fill in answers
its the fill in answers that are the exact same but are written slightly differently so they dont combine

[blazing burrow]

If you want to see every single response, here is the CSV

[blazing burrow]

Ahh that's a great idea

If anyone is smart with that stuff, feel free to feed it the data and see if we can get something easier to digest? I would be much obliged! 😆

[strange glen]

The file contains wishlist suggestions for the “Retroid Pocket Flip 2,” with various user preferences. Key categories include:
• Color Options: Popular choices include GameCube Indigo (with seafoam green buttons) and Black.
• CPU Preferences: Snapdragon 865, Dimensity 1100, and Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.
• RAM & Storage: Options range from 6GB + 128GB to 12GB + 512GB.
• Screen: Most users prefer an OLED display.
• Joysticks: Divided between slider-style hall effect and regular recessed sticks with hall effect.
• Buttons: Preferences vary between clicky and soft but quiet clicky.
• Screen Aspect Ratio: Mostly unspecified.
• Hinge: Users want a durable hinge, with one preference for a New 3DS XL-style hinge.
• Speakers: Front-firing speakers are the popular choice.
• Other Preferences: Some users provided additional comments on battery and design.

Would you like a more detailed breakdown or any specific insights? 

The “Anything else?” section mostly contains additional preferences regarding battery life, design, and features. However, many entries are left blank. Here are some key takeaways from the available responses:
• Battery: No specific capacity mentioned, but users likely expect a long-lasting battery.
• Design Language: Some users prefer a design inspired by past handhelds, such as the New 3DS XL instead of the New 2DS XL.
• Build Quality: A strong emphasis on a hinge that “doesn’t break”, suggesting concerns over durability.
• Additional Features: No explicit mentions, but given the other responses, users might value a high-quality build with premium materials.

Would you like a more in-depth analysis or suggestions based on this feedback?

In-Depth Analysis of Additional Preferences for Retroid Pocket Flip 2

Based on the wishlist survey, users provided some insights into their preferences beyond just raw hardware specifications. Here’s a deeper dive into what the responses indicate:

1. Battery Expectations

While no one specified exact battery capacities (e.g., mAh ratings), the lack of mention suggests that users assume a significant battery upgrade compared to previous models. Given that handheld gaming devices typically face battery life concerns, a larger battery (e.g., 5000mAh–7000mAh) with fast charging support would likely be expected.

Implied Preferences:
• A longer-lasting battery that can handle extended gaming sessions.
• Support for fast charging (e.g., USB-C PD or Quick Charge).
• Possibly a replaceable/swappable battery for longevity.

2. Design Language & Form Factor

There’s a strong preference for durability and a solid hinge. One user specifically mentioned wanting a New 3DS XL-style hinge instead of the New 2DS XL hinge. This suggests:
• Users prefer sturdy clamshell designs with a high-quality hinge mechanism.
• The New 3DS XL hinge is seen as better than the New 2DS XL hinge, likely due to its smooth motion and durability.
• Concerns about hinges breaking may stem from previous handhelds (e.g., older Retroid Flip models or Nintendo DS systems).

Implied Preferences:
• Premium materials (metal or high-quality plastic) for a solid feel.
• Well-engineered hinge that doesn’t wear out quickly.
• Good weight distribution to avoid wrist strain during long gaming sessions.

3. Durability & Build Quality

The phrase “Doesn’t break” appearing multiple times under the hinge section highlights durability as a major concern. This could mean:
• Improved chassis rigidity to prevent creaking or flexing.
• Better hinge mechanisms to withstand repeated use.
• Stronger buttons and joysticks (possibly replaceable modules for longevity).

Additionally, the request for hall-effect joysticks suggests users want drift-free analog sticks, a major issue with many modern gaming devices (e.g., Nintendo Switch Joy-Cons).

Implied Preferences:
• No stick drift (hall-effect sensors).
• High-quality buttons and D-pad for a responsive feel.
• A shell resistant to scratches, scuffs, and wear.

4. Portability & Convenience Features

While not directly mentioned, portability is an implied factor in a clamshell handheld. Possible expectations include:
• A thin and lightweight design without compromising durability.
• A charging dock or stand for convenience.
• Better ventilation/cooling to prevent overheating.

5. Speakers & Audio Preferences

Users strongly favor front-firing speakers, which suggests they want clearer, louder, and more immersive sound compared to side or bottom-firing speakers. This aligns with expectations for handheld gaming devices that rely on strong audio performance.

Implied Preferences:
• Larger speaker drivers for better audio clarity.
• Possibly stereo sound with enhanced bass.
• 3.5mm headphone jack retention for wired audio options.
• Bluetooth audio support with low-latency codecs (aptX, LDAC, etc.).

Conclusion: What Users Want in the Retroid Pocket Flip 2

From this wishlist, it’s clear that users want more than just a performance boost—they want a well-built, durable, and premium-feeling device that can handle long gaming sessions.

✅ Key Priorities Identified:
1. A strong, durable hinge (preferably like the New 3DS XL).
2. A long-lasting battery with fast charging.
3. Premium build quality with no weak points.
4. Front-firing speakers for better sound.
5. Hall-effect joysticks for drift-free gaming.

Would you like me to turn this into a formal report or recommendation for Retroid?

[versed vigil]

Ok, so given the most voted speaker option was Front Firing, could you shoot the “speakers next to the screen like the DS” idea to Retroid if they’re leaning towards any screens that aren’t 16:9?

[strange glen]

This is the link of the conversation. Sorry for spaming the chat: https://chatgpt.com/share/67a67818-c720-8000-b3d5-0c61b2757b27

[blazing burrow]

HERO

thank you

[versed vigil]

Because that’s probably the outright best option for people who want front firing but not for it to be under their palms.

[strange glen]

Somehow the link is not working. Let me check

[stray dagger]

reading all this now... what are you guys even discussing, this has to match the RP5 in specs and features or they can keep even the most beautiful Flip 2

[icy bramble]

The goal should be to go even further beyond

I was going to say idk how you could fit speakers like that but I guess phones technically have front firing speakers that aren't too big

[stray dagger]

nah, SD865 is good for what we want to do with this

[rigid thicket]

Honestly, I'd give up sound quality instead of speakers by the screen to have a smaller/shorter Flip.

[icy bramble]

No secret console glare

[blazing burrow]

Works well!

[strange glen]

This is the compiled wishlist. Can you please pin this instead? @blazing burrow https://chatgpt.com/canvas/shared/67a67976005c8191a8ec11be7e25b939

[icy bramble]

I'm kidding... Or am I?

[strange glen]

Oh, the other link works for you? Somehow doesn't work for me

[blazing burrow]

Done!

Thanks

Sent over to David from Retroid

and Chris

[night vessel]

Uhh some of the chatgpt stuff seems wrong to the actual data

[blazing burrow]

Ah what's off that you can see? Maybe we can re-generate?

The only thing I didn't understand was the 2DS XL mention vs 3DS hinge style, but I haven't read every response yet

[stray dagger]

the list seems kinda pointless, just make the RP5 flip with a decent hinge, done

[rigid thicket]

If their current design has elements that are overwhelming unpopular from the wishlist they might pump the breaks a bit and adjust.

Because they must have played around with the idea, it'd be silly to assume they haven't thought about it.

[stray dagger]

they could just show us their current design, we will riot like we do in the MagicX channel if their designers fuck up

[versed vigil]

People would riot regardless.

There’s enough people for multiple different preferences that any design they show to be disappointing to at least a good chunk of the discord server.

[rigid thicket]

See: Analogs or no analogs 😂

[stray dagger]

they only need to listen to me

[night vessel]

Color options: indigo with seafoam green buttons 😬 the other popular colors are missing

Screen: 16:9 was voted the most

Joystick: recessed sticks was voted the most

Buttons: Hybrid soft clicky was voted the most

[stray dagger]

no analogue triggers would make the whole GCN/PS2 power pointless and everyone saying anything about it can go and just buy a Flip 1

[stray dagger]

as long as they do a plain black version as well

[blazing burrow]

@strange glen can we try it again or with a different prompt?

[rigid thicket]

I would if they still sold them 🥲

[stray dagger]

welp, fair, but I guess you could find one used

[strange glen]

Let me try!

[blazing burrow]

ayye ok thanks!

[versed vigil]

No, they’re talking about Analog sticks or no Analog sticks. We’ve both got people who would unironically prefer a stickless RP5 clamshell (for really weird reasons), and people who would want a digital joystick (the based arcade enjoyers who reject the sega d-pad being a “digital stick alternative”).

[blazing burrow]

At worst we will only link to the actual survey results, but having an accurate summary is easier on the eyes!

[stray dagger]

maybe... just send them straight to the asylum

I mean, I get wanting sliders on a clamshell, tho R/L3 would need to be solved with additional triggers/backpaddles to compensate, because "neutral only" R/L3 is pointless and I'm not aware of sliders that can be clicked on any position... but no sticks at all?

[night vessel]

I asked Gemini for a premium clamshell handheld just for fun.

[versed vigil]

If I had my way, literally every Sega D-Pad on any handheld would instead be a NeoGeo Thumbstick, the superior alternative for an arcade handheld to use.

[strange glen]

I reached the free limit of ChatGPT... Maybe someone else can try.

[stray dagger]

I would be cool with that

[strange glen]

Or we take what it output already and manually edit some missing points

[stray dagger]

but I doubt Retroid could magically make a great NeoGeo thumbstick

[jagged blade]

https://tenor.com/view/cashew-nutworking-popcorn-doughkins-gif-18470147

[blazing burrow]

Ah no worries, ill unlink the summary for the moment!

[strange glen]

So it seems the aspect ratio column is empty in the raw data for some reasons.

[strange glen]

The aspect ratio is missing from raw data. But the rest is there, but the report generated didn’t show the results for each question in a straigthforward way. I’ll ask it to modify the report my free limit has reset (tomorrow)

[formal latch]

Seeing the replaceable battery suggestion makes me wish I'd put that as well. I'm getting older, so a 5.5" inch screen or larger would also be preferable, but then you're getting to the limits of pocketability and I don't know if I'd be representative of the majority of retro handheld buyers/users... I don't find the sliders on the og flip terrible, but I don't know how to adjust their sensitivity or whatever to get them to the point I'd enjoy them
Really just want something clamshell and pocketable that can play as much PS2 as emulators can handle without having to live with lots of framerate drops... If it can manage Switch as well, that would be awesome, but not my highest priority
If they end up doing this, I just hope it ticks enough of my desires to make it worth buying, I'd hate to be part of the hype for all of this and then be so disappointed as to lose interest in buying it. Might make retroid or other companies disincentivized to make their products interactively with their customers again in the future

[random tulip]

The og flip has R/L3. They're clicky sliders

Pretty sure at least

I never really use them 😆

[stray dagger]

yeah but those could only be used in neutral position iirc?

[sacred valley]

Wasn't OG flip sliders hall effect too? Or was that a translation error?

[stray dagger]

that is impractical for most games

[random tulip]

Yeah

And nah. They click everywhere I'm pretty sure

[stray dagger]

hmmm welp then whatever, slide away

[formal latch]

I legitimately thought I'd been duped about them being clickable because when I tried them when I first got it, there was flexing but no 'click'... I only tried them again recently when people insisted they clicked and now they do work... What the hell is up with that

[random tulip]

They are some really fucking nice sliders honestly

Especially since they aren't mass produced in every handheld

So Retroid actually did some work

[random tulip]

Haha. That's funny. Maybe the guys before the two I owned broke them in

[sacred valley]

The way I see it, Whether a 5.5 inch clamshell device is pocketable or not is mainly driven by its thickness. I mean, even a 6" 16:9 device can be pocketable if it's thin enough.

[formal latch]

Might challenge the comfortability of it though

[versed vigil]

I mean it’s already gonna be required by the EU in I think a couple years, so all we gotta do is remind Chris about that and he might be able to convince Retroid.

[random tulip]

At some point it changes from something you rest on your fingers to something you palm

And I have a feeling if you palm this guy it's just not gonna be comfortable if slim and portable is what you're going for

Imagine an RP5 with even smaller bumps

[formal latch]

I don't find the original flip particularly uncomfortable, as long as the edges are all rounded off and the buttons aren't too close to the sides/centre, it should be comfortable for most people, no?

[rigid thicket]

The GPD Win Mini is the same size as a 3DSXL just thicker and has a 7in screen so I don't see why not.

The Retroid Flip wasn't even that crazy thick, it's just the stacked trigger bumps made it thick.

[ocean cedar]

Yeah…. Seeing how freaking thin the s25+ is… I may just have to get an mcon.

Or whatever copycat there is

[rigid thicket]

What we need is effectively a Surface Duo with detachable controllers, a set of flat back inline triggers and a set of ergo with stacked triggers. 😤

[ocean cedar]

I don’t need dual screens

[rigid thicket]

But I need brainrot youtube on one screen at all times.

Would be neat to get a use out of scraping manuals and have them on one screen though 🤔

I had Balatro and the calculator app open at the same time on my Duo and that was fun.

[strange glen]

I generated a new version that contains more straightforward summary of the survey results which top 3 choices of each question and percentage: https://chatgpt.com/canvas/shared/67a68d3777388191a859781679434f56

[scarlet furnace]

Just wishful thinking, but here are some mockups of my Flip 2 wishlist...

[sweet rune]

266 people like my hat

[urban jewel]

did the community not agree on the hinge being a huge problem on the first RP Flip? It's better for it to emulate the hinge on the New 3DS (XL) rather than the New 2DS XL where the hinge itself is on the top of the base rather than splitting the difference between the base and the screen

[scarlet furnace]

Yeah, that's why I put "more durable hinge". I'd hope Retroid's engineers could find the best solution for that outcome.

[random tulip]

Lol. Brave move

[urban jewel]

yeahhh...I'd assume that's what they tried to do the first time around 😬

[blazing burrow]

This is awesome!

[blazing burrow]

Thanks! Will let community vet it again before I share it out

[uncut knoll]

This hits pretty hard

For a possible Flip 2 looks amazing

[scarlet furnace]

Thank you! Yeah I love the Flip but it definitely has flaws - luckily they can be easily corrected.

[teal bolt]

Ergonomic humps or no buy.

[scarlet furnace]

I honestly didn't even think about that - but that's a fair observation.

[teal bolt]

I picked up my 3ds for the first time in a while the other day. Great little system. Hands were in hell though.

[blazing burrow]

Ok looks super solid to me! Unless anyone catches anything, I think good to share this around

[teal bolt]

I personally don't mind a Flip 2 being a chunky fuck so long as its pocketable. And its a clamshell, so I don't see why it wouldn't be.

And by a chunky fuck, I'm suggesting recessed analog sticks.

[scarlet furnace]

(if anyone wants pngs with no background, let me know)

[tacit gorge]

awesome!

1. yeah, keep the og flip dimensions, but put the 5.5 inch rp5 screen in there
2. mono speaker in the center, because dual speakers on each side of the lower part of the shell are likely to get covered by your hands.

[scarlet furnace]

That is exactly why I added the monospeaker! Given the ergonomics, it's best to avoid things that our palms and thumbs would cover.

[tacit gorge]

also keep the sliders. they are really good (compared to other sliders or joycons. ofc proper joysticks would be better, but that’s not an option here).

[rigid thicket]

I don't get why these companies will make stacked triggers that jut out and not just extend that all the way for ergo.

Already made it effectively thicker with the trigger humps, might as well commit and make it ergo.

[tacit latch]

boy they sure are excited for a device they had no plans for 😄

speaking of front facing speakers

the RP5 and RP Mini's are front facing but sound, uh, not great

maybe we should ask for good speakers first before we ask for front facing ones

not that any of this matters since Retroid will do whatever lol

but just saying

anyway

I have a feeling in my butt that this handheld is already done and we are less than a week away from the official unveiling

no evidence whatsoever, just a hunch

[jagged blade]

We need those JL audio speakers

[blazing burrow]

Would anyone be down to make a fan mockup for the other top 3 color variants? Famicon, Cobalt GBA and Ice blue? @fathom geyser @scarlet furnace

[gentle badge]

I dunno about a week but it’s definitely been in development since before the rp5 launch

Probably just waiting for the right timing sales/marketing strategy wise

It’s going to look really bad for them if they start hyping a new product before they’ve fixed the mini

[echo lynx]

I just want a dual screen man

Is that too much to ask for?

[gentle badge]

Unfortunately for NDS fanatics we are definitely not getting that

Personally I like the idea of an x86 handheld that’s vaguely win mini shaped but replace the keyboard with a second screen that is switchable between acting as a display, a touch keyboard, a trackpad, or customizable touch control panel (macros, hotkeys, tdp adjustment, all sorts of options)

[scarlet furnace]

I got you dude! Gimmie a minutre and I'll take care of them.

[scarlet furnace]

Apparently hah

[gentle badge]

Basically ayaneo flip but good lol

But I think in order to hit the level of software support we’re looking for it would probably have to be a valve product. Someone who would make a custom Linux OS to work with it.

[echo lynx]

I mean Magicx is doing it

But that's 4 months out

And it's this year's dimensity flagship

Not a Snapdragon

[formal latch]

Given that it's magicx, what are the odds of it being good?

[fathom geyser]

Urs look better than mine anyways lol

Only thing I’d say is they might go for less bezel if they’re gonna try going for a 5.5 screen

[blazing burrow]

Ayyee many thanks!!!

[fathom geyser]

They’d also prolly use the 2S/3/4/5 d-pad

I’d imagine

[scarlet furnace]

Incoming...

[ocean cedar]

Noooo plz no Ayaneo retro colorway. It’s hideous

[hybrid viper]

The speaker position is bad, you'll cover it with your palm. The speakers need to be either to the side of the screen on the top portion or if it's on the bottom portion it needs to be towards the top above the d-pad and abxy buttons

[scarlet furnace]

Since there were technically two different Famicom GBA SPs, I did both versions.

[blazing burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bette-midler-youremyhero-hero-wind-beneath-my-wings-beaches-gif-15957355387048651165

[scarlet furnace]

Those what you were looking for, buddy?

[blazing burrow]

Absolutely! These look awesome man

[scarlet furnace]

That is exactly why I made versions with the speaker in the center. I didn't think about speakers on the side of the screen - good idea!

[hybrid viper]

It's basically what the 3DS does

[severe ridge]

i dont mind a mono speaker, just make it a good one

[tacit gorge]

did y‘all experience the og flip backfiring speakers in person?
imho they don’t sound bad. in fact their positioning never really bothered me personally. ofc it’s not ideal, but it does work alright.

putting the speakers on both sides of the screen would mean at least one of two things i’d like to avoid:

1. smaller screen
2. larger shell

[scarlet furnace]

@tacit gorge Yeah ultimately I kept my wish list pretty conservative. I know product design enough that if I added every single bell and whistle then it would be impossible or very expensive. Everyone loves their RG35XXSP and that has a front facing mono speaker.

[tacit gorge]

those who want good sound probably play with headphones anyway.

[scarlet furnace]

I absolutely respect if people are audiophiles with handheld emulators. If I really care about the audio, I use headphones. 75% of the time I use my handhelds it's when I'm out and about and I'm not blasting the speakers in public.

[candid sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljk2SpYwgNU Lol, So i guess Flip 2 was an open secret among the content creators

I really hope they will listen to the community feedback and they don't already have it 100% designed and finished xD

(Also metal hinge could be a good idea ;))

[night vessel]

They probably just wanted to know how much demand there is for it and what colors could sell.

[candid sonnet]

I think you are right with colors, but I'm sure if they were just testing waters we wouldnt be here in this channel ;), its already part of their marketing 🙂

Retroid is suprisingly good at the marketing much better than their competitors

[night vessel]

From joeys video it sounds like the rp5 as a clamshell device and I think that's what everyone wants. So don't expect dual screens or other crazy stuff and you won't be dissapointed😅

[candid sonnet]

it also makes sense, I wonder if they do dual screens one day

[night vessel]

I'm just hoping for a bigger battery and more ergonomic design than the rp5

[candid sonnet]

From the two Moorechip subsidiaries Retroid is more likely to do it, somehow doubt we will see Ayn DS device.

[night vessel]

There's also Magicx who wants to do dual screen handhelds but I'm not quite sure about them. They need to build up some reputation first

[scarlet furnace]

From what I hear, making dual screen handhelds is pretty hard. A Retroid representative said they're gunshy about dual screens because of copyrights from Nintendo. I think if we see a proper dual screen handheld, it'll be a while.

[tacit gorge]

apart from ds/3ds a second screen would proof pretty much useless on an android handheld. in fact it might limit the experience with any other system.
it also doesn’t help with battery life.

it’s like playing gba on a 3ds. you quickly realize that while the 3ds is the best way to play 3ds games, it’s not that great for anything else.

so instead of trying to go for a one device fits all solution i’d advocate to use a separate 3ds device.

[severe steppe]

Mono speaker....

[scarlet furnace]

Oops! Looks like I missed turning a layer off.

[naive blade]

ai 🤮

[limpid ledge]

This one is sexyyyyyy

[sweet rune]

I think some of the issues with making DS style screens are software

Just getting android or Linux to recognize that both screens are essentially one screen for the purpose of DS and 3DS emulation seems like more of a headache than they want to take on

[naive blade]

Well microsoft did it with the surface duo so not impossible. Although in that case both screens were the same size.

[tacit gorge]

zu is right, it takes an awful lot of software customization.

can’t really put microsoft and retroid into the same boat here.

also remember how long it took microsoft to get the surface duo in a somewhat stable and functional state.

[naive blade]

Honestly I would still buy the flip 2 even if it isn't dual screen but it would be amazing to finally have an oled ds replacement console that is the same size as a 3ds xl. The ds still isn't able to be replaced by any emulation consoles because of how unique it is.

[sweet rune]

I may have asked the onexplayer people at CES if their dual screen device was going to be set up like the surface duo, and they didn't really give me a coherent answer

Inb4 Max at Anbernic somehow pulls it off with an H700 and stock OS

[random tulip]

Not gonna lie, I really want that device. Just don't know if I want it at +35%. Lol

[echo lynx]

magicx onesp towards july!

or super sp with rp5 screen would do a lot of stuff very well

gc ps2 switch

but mali gpu is not very good

for switch

[gentle badge]

I really think our best bet for an NDS/3DS retro handheld would be a large 3:4 portrait screen in a 2ds style slab

[echo lynx]

3:4?

5:6 is what we want

or 2:3

[gentle badge]

3:4 is roughly between those two (so a good compromise between what you want for 3ds and what you want for NDS) while also being the perfect ratio for tate arcade

[echo lynx]

5:6 is the compromise

2:3 ruins 3ds

and 3:4 does nothing well

[rigid thicket]

I think realistically for dual screen stuff it'll be DS style with 2 of the same sized screen instead of 3DS with one larger than the other.

If both screens are the same size then no extra work is needed on the software side if it's Android based (See: Surface Duo)

[naive blade]

it defeats half the purpose of a 3ds which is portability

a slab 2ds style handheld either has a really tiny screen on doesn't have pocketability

[tacit latch]

maybe with a different chip but I think in time, if no one else gets to it, this will happen

I'd probably put my money on Anbernic being the most likely to make a dual screen handheld happen eventually, but we'll probably be waiting for a while still

[rigid thicket]

To be honest, I'm excited for a dual screen device for multitasking more than DS/3DS emulation.
The same way a lot of those games were nice for even just having a map on one of the screens, it's nice having a guide or map externally for other games.

[candid sonnet]

actually I never thought about it but its a really nice use case indeed

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, like I get you can just look stuff up on your phone or PC or whatever, but it's just super nice just being able to look down.

Even stuff like having a 100% checklist spreadsheet on a screen that you can immediately check off as you clear or something.

It's like the difference between having a handheld in your pocket and a handheld in your bag. The immediate access is just nice.

[echo lynx]

top touch bottom touch

but bottom also has pen support

for 3ds and ds

[fluid stone]

Oooh a handheld with one of those specialized pen accessories would be cool, though it would also probably be hard to replace lol

[echo lynx]

if they use open source standards that would be best

saves a bit of work too

[scarlet furnace]

Okay I may have gone overboard

[tacit latch]

ergonomic bumps on a clamshell?

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-cotton-dodgeball-cotton-pepper-espn-the-ocho-jason-bateman-gif-5533366060954481945

[gentle badge]

Honestly as long as it doesn’t protrude further out than the shoulders I’m down

The touchpad isn’t gonna happen tho lol

[scarlet furnace]

Oh definitely not. However it has a higher chance of happening than a second screen.

[versed vigil]

Rip “RP Flip with Second Screen” fans, their dream will never come true.

[scarlet furnace]

Retroid has explicitly said they aren't interested because of the copyright from Nintendo. I'd imagine that's a pretty similar road block for other devs. We see some second screen devices out there, so I guess they are willing to roll the dice.

[versed vigil]

It’s not even just that but the fact that a second screen takes an insane amount of performance headroom (for the stuff unrelated to DS/3DS that people want to do with it) and also a lot of power draw (unless they’re going for 4:3 and using 2 of the Mini’s screens, since those I remember had insanely low power draw).

[scarlet furnace]

Regardless of the reason, which there are several, it's just not likely to happen on a bigger scale for a while.

[versed vigil]

So unless the company was willing to make it with a much bigger battery to account for that (which would only make it way heavier), or even to use very low power screens, a 2 screen RP5 would likely have a horrible battery life for a feature it would barely be strong enough to take advantage of (again, this is in regard to the stuff unrelated to DS/3DS, in watching YouTube or scrolling through the internet on one screen, and a game is playing on the other screen).

[scarlet furnace]

@blazing burrow cursed or kinda appealing?

[blazing burrow]

What would be kind of interesting is make the face buttons the PSX og colors

[fathom geyser]

I’m team flat back, but if that were the only choice to get Gamecube in my pocket I’d suck it up

[scarlet furnace]

We can make it any color our hearts desire.

[tacit gorge]

retroid be like: can we, tho?

[wary jacinth]

A metal shell option would go far on relieving worry's on hinge durability I had a limited edition red flip and hinge busted so now I'm paranoid on buying any clamshell or flip GBA so type handheld

[scarlet furnace]

Oh absolutely the hinge is the single most important part of any Flip update.

[urban jewel]

thank you!

[polar whale]

i thought the point of these was to be somewhat pocketable. I think ergo grips kinda ruin that

[echo lynx]

Threeds/super SP!

[naive blade]

exactly

the rp flip 2 needs to have a pocketable design or else the clamshell formfactor is kinda a waste

[stray dagger]

ergo "grips" should be flat thickness akin to the ZPG A1 Unicorn and only as big as is needed for the triggers

[echo lynx]

Can have both to some extent

The bigger the ergonomicee

[naive blade]

a grip in my book is just more discomfort in a pocket

[tacit latch]

alright, hear me out

flat, but comes with an optional low profile tpu ergo grip

[echo lynx]

Keep the grip at home

Remove it when docked

[random tulip]

Personally I like grips if done right. It would need to be treated. Like actually tested. So maybe better if they don't 😆. But they can be great on something that you don't palm. I don't palm the RG cubes grip. but it allows me to position my hands in a way that make reaching all the controls comfy. First time I haven't felt like the device favors one layout over another

More of a ridge to provide better purchase

To be fair any texture on the back is beneficial

Rpf1 feels like an egg

Vita/o2m are good examples of low profile indents that provide the same

[naive blade]

Okay guys what if retroid offered an rp flip 2 dock that when connected displayed the system to the tv? This would look so cool. Like you cannot even see the screen, it would truly feel like a home console.

the smallest ps2 with hdmi

[tacit latch]

🤔

[random tulip]

Yeah. I think we were told that somewhere in here

Again, we're not getting excited about a planned device. We're manifesting one

[tacit latch]

we never heard that the flip 2 was officially in the "design/concept phase"

all we heard was "no plans, but also send us the feedback"

[random tulip]

Pretty sure that started when this thread started

Design/concept are such nebulous terms

If they drew one on a napkin it could be considered as much

Plus there's that printed prototype that some people saw prior to this

I think this is a case more of, ok there's a desire now let's actually start thinking about it rather than, we printed this proto 4 years ago but are not sure we'll do one

[echo lynx]

I've been saying this for the threeds/super sp

[naive blade]

you mean the 3:2 magicx clamshell?

[gentle badge]

so we're just pretending there was no leak now

[echo lynx]

No

The flagship dual screen

[random tulip]

A leak implies people can see the leak

All that we've been told is that there is a leak. Which I can do right now. I've seen the switch 3. It's awesome. Don't buy the switch 2

Some people have also thrown around that it was a 3d printed prototype of a flip device they may consider making at some point. Which still isn't really much considering they're leaning on us to even tell them what we think it should be

[tacit gorge]

i can see retroid putting 1 and 1 together, working on a flip 2 concept behind closed doors for a while now. they know the flip was very popular and they did put the necessary work into the otas. it really only failed because of broken hinge angst and them having to deal with refunds and rmas.

[gentle badge]

their design to production timeline is very long. If they actually weren't working on a flip 2 until this google thing 'manifested' it then it won't come out this year.

(it will come out this year tho)

(because it's already in progress)

[formal latch]

Does this channel really need another discussion on semantics, and does it really matter? Regardless, Retroid is accepting feedback, and there's nothing officially announced, so we're in the same spot as weeks or months ago... Until something is concrete and there's official marketing, it might as well not exist, no?

[tacit gorge]

wdym? this is rumor_mill. if there was any place to speculate, fever dream, manifest a handheld, it should be this one right here, no?

[formal latch]

True, I just mean specifically around what vernacular does or doesn't apply

[tacit gorge]

oh were you referring to that bit about the “leak”?

[formal latch]

Yeah. That's not the first time a similar thing has come up

[tacit gorge]

yeah, leak or not, as i said i can imagine they’ve been working on a flip 2 concept for a while.

the community handed over a cookbook with more or less reasonable ingredients. now let them cook i say 😊

[tacit latch]

no but I'm interested in how the official messaging evolves

that tells us things

[echo lynx]

Speculate and fever dream?

My favourite

Hope the flip has two screens

[night vessel]

It won't have 2 screens

[tacit latch]

...but three

[lost knoll]

Four

[scarlet furnace]

I'm always curious about seeing a device as "pocketable". How many of us actually walk around their day with a game device in their pocket? Mine are always in my bag, since having a device in my pocket isn't comfortable. If we're talking real small like the RG28XX then maybe I can see that.

[lost knoll]

Gimme a handheld that pops out like this

[tacit gorge]

i also thought pocketability was way overrated. ppl in the handheld gaming space told me i was wrong

[scarlet furnace]

I genuinely want to know how many people in this hobby walk around with their handhelds in their pocket versus in a bag if at all.

[formal latch]

🙋‍♂️

... I do

[gentle badge]

I walk around with a device in my pocket - largest I've done that with is the rgb10max3pro (vita sized but flat with fully recessed sticks), but usually my comfy size for a pocket handheld is MM+, rgb30, or 28xx

the 35xxSP is just thick enough to annoy me

[tacit gorge]

most probably mean jacket/coat pockets instead of pants pockets.

idk i wear slim fit jeans most of the time. even the tiniest of micro handhelds would bother me in my pants pockets.

[gentle badge]

and that's with straight cut costco men's jeans

There's also something nice about a handheld that's like the RP5 - where I can put it in my pocket if I need to (say I need to climb a flight of stairs with a box in two hands) but I wouldn't leave it in my pocket all day

sorta like the y700 tablet - I wouldn't walk around with it in my pocket all day but in a pinch it fits (protruding) in my rear pants pocket if I need my hands for something else in a hurry without me having to leave it laying around

unlike a full size ipad

[tacit gorge]

or put the rp5 aside for just a second 😊

[gentle badge]

the 28xx really is a gem for leaving it in my pocket full time without even really noticing it as I run errands etc

The problem is everyone’s lines are going to be different depending on their pants/jackets/bags.

for me it’s front pants pocketable all day < jacket pocketable/pants pocketable in a pinch < fits in the accessory pouch in my laptop sling < fits in my small sling < fits in the main compartment of my laptop sling

So like for me the ally X and the steam deck are actually in different size brackets because the ally x barely fits in the small sling while the deck would not

But if that edc sling was slightly smaller to not fit the X or slightly larger to fit a deck they’d be functionally the same size for me

[hybrid viper]

Retroid needs to hire you to design their handhelds

Bro went super saiyan

[gentle badge]

Move the start/select/home/back up to where the touchpad is on that design, replace the sliders with recessed sticks, make the bottom shell have a glass panel with speakers to match the top glass panel and I think you’re basically there

It’s basically gonna be two RP5s (one without the screen and with utility buttons, one that’s just screen) hinged together I think

I am just guessing for the outer bits tho

But fairly confident it’s all glass inside

I hope we get ergo bumps and not just protruding triggers on the bottom

[scarlet furnace]

I like sliders :/

[hybrid viper]

I don't really have a preference between sliders or recessed analog sticks, both are a compromise

I hope we get ergonomic bumps too, trying to keep this thing pocketable is a mistake. This isn't a micro device

I'm not a fan of glass anything, to me it's a negative just means more fingerprints

[gentle badge]

If it’s only a little thicker than the rp5 when closed I’d still pocket it

The protected screen and no protruding sticks would offset gaining some thickness and the ergonomic bumps on the 5 seem to keep it flatter so the shoulders don’t hook/press in

[scarlet furnace]

I dunno. Russ always shows his pants pockets when talking about pocketability. Personally, I think it's more helpful to say how'd someone would carry it versus saying pocketability - it feels like that leads to an unfair assumption. I'm speaking as a generalization of course.

My handhelds fall into three levels of portability: daily walking around sling (smaller so my sp goes in there), work bag (larger so that has my rp4 pro), then travel (biggest and longest trip so that has my steamdeck).

[fathom geyser]

My OG Flip is my daily driver, I play it all the time at work lol. I got myself a backup too just in case anything goes wrong with it

I gave away my RP2S and my vita because I wasn’t playing them

[random tulip]

Which is totally possibly. But we don't really know. It's not the term leak that's the issue. It's that we have nothing besides that they're taking feedback. So coming in and saying "well there's the leak" is somewhat of a nothingburger

Clearly we know they're interested now. But we have no clue when they started

So there's nothing really to support it coming out this year either

Anyway. I'll be happy whenever it does drop. I have to assume Retroid wouldn't do anything too idiotic

Like wrap it in glass

[tacit latch]

I find the story of the leak perfectly plausible

but there's no need to get worked up about it in any case; make your own mind about what you want to believe and move on

[random tulip]

I mean it's def plausible. Things leak. I believe it happened. But what we know about the leak is nothing. So whether it exists or not is kind of moot. Def the thinnest strand you could make a rumor page on 😆

The rumor is that there's a secret

It's all pointless now anyway. As clearly there is now a device in development and they're taking feedback. Which is awesome

[scarlet furnace]

There are at least several sources saying they are. Retroid has fueled the rumors by chatting with RH and others have confirmed insider information. Of course Retroid isn't going to say something until they are ready.

[robust wedge]

Adding my energy. I shall will this into existence the same way I willed the 405v into existence.

https://tenor.com/view/send-energy-sending-healing-dragon-ball-spirit-bomb-gif-16443313

[scarlet furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/2869993-hail-gif-12594371

[robust wedge]

I feel like using the Retroid 5 screen is going to make it too big to be pocketable. Would the TrimUI's screen be a good compromise? They could probabaly pull that off in a package as small as the original Flip.

[lost knoll]

I Created This Device: The Retroid Pocket Flip 2 - Taki Udon

[random tulip]

#1336037750889250960 message

[scarlet furnace]

I had asked this above and now I'm really curious how other people carry their devices. Do you actually put yout devices in your pockets when out and about?

[robust wedge]

I can squeeze a flip, a 40XXH, a 3DS XL, or an RGB30 (before I sold it) in my left front pocket. It's a tight fit for either one, but not too noticeable. My inside coat pocket though? I can easily slide my 406v in there if I wanted to (though it's usually reserved for notebook and art supplies).

[scarlet furnace]

Can I ask why you don't use a bag?

[rigid thicket]

The GPD Win Mini with a 7in screen is the same size as a 3DSXL just thicker.

[robust wedge]

Why would I need a bag if I have pockets that can discretely smuggle backup hoagies?

[rigid thicket]

For me at least, if it's not in my pocket then I just won't use it.

[fathom geyser]

5.5 screen wouldn’t be much bigger than the OG Flip if they tried to do minimal bezel

[rigid thicket]

And if I have to bag it then I'll carry a bigger/better device.

And then I won't use it because it's in a bag 🤣

[scarlet furnace]

Oh noooooooooooooooooo

[fathom geyser]

I used to pocket my 2S all the time

[random tulip]

Yeah. There's def a sweet spot for portable

[rigid thicket]

It's a bit of an odd example, but it's kind of like checking the time with a watch vs checking on your phone.
If I wear a watch I check the time pretty often. If I don't then I just don't really check the time even if I have a phone on me.
The extra step of pulling out my phone just doesn't seem worth it to check the time.

[scarlet furnace]

If it's bigger than a Switch Lite light, then it never leaves my house unless I'm going on a trip. That and smaller is the sweet spot for me.

[rigid thicket]

Or like, doing multiple things with two monitors vs tabbing around with one monitor.

[random tulip]

Yeah. I'd agree. Switch lite is like max footprint

[rigid thicket]

The fewer obstacles in the way the more likely I'll do something.

[random tulip]

Even thicker is ok

But once it hits a certain length it just becomes cumbersome

[scarlet furnace]

That's such an interesting way to put it. Cause having things in my pockets creates an obstacle in walking.

[fathom geyser]

I’ve often mistaken my Flip for my Phone

And my wallet

[rigid thicket]

Luckily the pants I wear tend to have bigger pockets so it's not too big an issue.

Though anything phone-ish size is okay even with tighter jeans like the 353M.

[scarlet furnace]

Is this you?

[robust wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/geese-howard-king-of-fighters-kof-smash-ultimate-gif-24681930

Rock Howard should really have pants like that as an alternate skin.

[wary jacinth]

So a nds on steroids
Ds on 2 middle screens
Music left
game guide right screen

[urban jewel]

idk about a handheld but you could get a GPD Duo + asomething like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CL66GVJ5?

[echo lynx]

3ds xl could fit a 5.5 inch screen.

How big is the og flip?

[lost knoll]

4.7? I think

It's the RP3 screen

[naive blade]

Not really, tecnically with a 5.5 inch screen it could be smaller than a 3ds xl with minimal bezels and I would consider the 3ds xl to be pocketable

[tacit gorge]

no “that’s what she said” gif? wtf? chat is pretty much dead.

[candid sonnet]

I have a feeling this time Retroid will nail the design, with front firing speakers and much better hinge

[chrome kelp]

Honestly I'm just hoping they make like a retroid pocket flip 2S mini, using the same screen from their rp5 mini, but with an SoC that can perform decently but not in the same line as their RP5's, but something more cheaper but definitely more powerful than the one in the RP2S, so basically a good price to performance handheld that's easy on the wallet and pocket

[echo lynx]

We've done the overlaying in the Magicx channel

It gits

Fits

[random tulip]

Yeah. People are clearly conspiring against you

Lol

Retroid doesn't make "public statements" about device development. We've always gotten news through an intermediary

They'll make announcements once it's close to ready to hit market

Lol. Funny that you'd think they'd put a presser about working with Retro Handhelds discord. I mean we are an awesome bunch

I mean multiple people have said so. I was just giving you one example

Stubbs has mentioned it. Retro joey. Some other joey

I mean they're talking to Retroid so I don't know what to tell you

How you don't see that as more evidence than someone being like "I've seen a leak but I can't tell you" is beyond me

Clearly we have different standards

Which is fine. Can continue being salty. And come back later?

Except it's not. The leak is one dude. This is multiple people

Dunno why it would come from Anbernic team

But you said Anbernic?

Lol

[formal latch]

🤦‍♂️

[random tulip]

Do you know where you are sir?

I just don't get the point your trying to prove

Or why you even care so much

@blazing burrow is pretty influential to me

[formal latch]

I'm going to use @tacit gorge 's point from earlier, this is the rumour mill section, does it really matter?
Some people just want to argue

[random tulip]

My issue with the leak has always been that multiple people said it was an old proto mockup and not necessarily going to be produced

Personally I think Retroid saying they're working on the device and taking our feedback is more substantial and way more interesting

[formal latch]

I also have a hard time believing Stubb's would setup a fake survey and claim Retroid had asked for feedback when none of that was true

[random tulip]

Exactly

[formal latch]

Oops, you got there first, Zee

[random tulip]

Like it'd be kinda reputation, website and discord killing if they came out and were like, stubbs who?

K. Come back when it moves from rumor to product 😆

[formal latch]

I think we get your point fine, it just seems unnecessarily hostile walking into the rumour mill area and demand proof then disagree about what constitutes proof or not

[random tulip]

George Costanza was a lot nicer to say the least

[gentle badge]

This whole drama/survey/argument is very funny to me as someone who knows how long the flip 2 has been in development

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-kevin-she-goes-to-another-school-gif-11535074

[random tulip]

Well none of what you showed would be proof anyway

Apparently

He needs Retroid to drop from helicopter and hand him a flip 2

[tacit gorge]

mom come quick! your fav show is on. ppl desperately trying to be right on the internet

[gentle badge]

That will probably be an option in the next couple months, I shudder to think what that level of shipping would cost tho

[random tulip]

Lol

[formal latch]

No, that's a psyop by anbernic

[random tulip]

Apparently

[gentle badge]

Honestly with how slow retroid is to market I would not be surprised if they get scooped by a 557sp

[random tulip]

My take has always been, people saying they know secret stuff. Interesting. Retroid talking to multiple people saying they're taking feedback from this discord for product development. More interesting

Both compound to for the rumor of a future flip 2 release. Which is awesome

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/kessoku-hood-gif-16583213151155611644

[echo lynx]

But hey

[random tulip]

Personally I won't believe any timeline promises until we get more evidence tho

[echo lynx]

That's just a theory

[random tulip]

Even when companies say 2025 they mean 2026. So...

[atomic sphinx]

it's almost like companies test and prototype devices for longer than a month or two before deciding whether to go with a design or not.

just because a prototype exists, means absolutely nothing until it's announced

[random tulip]

Yeah. Doesn't even mean it's actually coming

Taking feedback is just another step down the road to release

Still think it'll be funny if it is only a month out and feedback announcements were just for funsies

"we heard you. Now buy this"

[atomic sphinx]

something can be "in development" for years, only to never see the light of day unless it's accidental or if a company wants to show off

[formal latch]

It's a good thing the Switch 2 never leaked over the last year, or we'd have people arguing it was a trick by Xbox or Sony...

[atomic sphinx]

i mean, sure

[formal latch]

Alright alright, re-holstering my sarcasm

[atomic sphinx]

that's my bad. i wasn't sure if it was sarcasm or not and didn't want to assume it was lol

[restive karma]

Proof is overrated in upcoming/rumor mill anyway. There was rock solid proof for miyoo P60 for example

[chrome kelp]

sooo, anyone wishing that this could have 6 face buttons whilst using the 3.7 screen or is it just me?

[gentle badge]

think they'd actually use it right this time or we'd just get the scaling issue again?

[chrome kelp]

Hahah I don't think so 😅 , I guess they can go for different screen but in a similar aspect ratio

[blazing burrow]

What have I done now? 😂

We're talking Flip 2 in our podcast bonus episode today

[blazing burrow]

I dig this idea! Miyoo Flip Advance 😆

[chrome kelp]

Hahaha man If miyoo is gonna pull something like that off, we'll have to wait for another year or two of waiting

[steady osprey]

A perfect example of that being that Wonder Woman game that should really just be put to bed at this point

[steady osprey]

My concern as well, the reason I'm holding off on a Mini as much as I love that black and red colour way

[blazing burrow]

Miyoo OLED when 😂

[chrome kelp]

It should be down the line, it's either a miyoo OLED or a Miyoo DS😂

[random tulip]

Miyoo mini v8

[sweet rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742975962232258671/1338922355845627904/Screenshot_20250211-1217212.jpg?ex=67acd81d&is=67ab869d&hm=0c6f798dc698fcafc2d0c5c992b0aeb232f022c543a9070cb322e67093b4c281&

[blazing burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-cook-cook-black-clover-hollup-hold-on-gif-16423563800366538896

[naive blade]

this pic is kinda magnificent

[tacit latch]

Imagine what this channel will look like if another month goes by with no word from Retroid

[gentle badge]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-apocalypse-world-end-armageddon-gif-13863812

[naive blade]

I will blow up

[sacred valley]

I hope they have a black color. I like to customize buttons and basic black or white is usually what I prefer.

[sacred valley]

I like this design most. Idk why people are asking for a mono speaker instead of stereo next to the screen. It's one of the most advantageous things you could do with a 16:9 clamshell imo. The flip1 looked very awkward with all of that wasted space on the bottom half, this fixes it with a track pad which could be awesome

[scarlet furnace]

Thanks! Yeah I try to keep my designs semi realistic with what I would like to see. I'll probably keep farting around with it as we all keep coming up with ideas. Like the grips and track pad were 100% feedback from other people.

[sacred valley]

That's an awesome design. I doubt the final thing will be as well thought out lol. .

Imo, ergonomics bumps are never a negative if they do not extend past the triggers. If you remove them, then people would just point out how the triggers protrude and hamper pocketablilty. Either inline with a flat back or stacked with humps, no half measures 😂

[fathom geyser]

I wouldn’t say never everybody’s hands are different

[rigid thicket]

You'd have to mess up the ergo's pretty badly for that to happen, ahaha.

I'd prefer inline/flat back/single mono speaker on bottom half just for maximum small size.

I can't imagine they'd get good speakers small enough to fit next the to screen nicely so I'd rather a decent/good mono speaker than 2 cruddy stereo speakers.

Alternatively, if they can get decent speakers that small they can probably fit them above the dpad/buttons 🤔

[polar whale]

Back in gradesxhool. I used to had ds and 3ds in my pockets.

These devices now? Not really

[rigid thicket]

Most are too big or have too many things jutting out.

The 353M with a flip cover is about as big as it can comfortably be currently.

Maybe the 405M with a flip cover too.

Think the 3DSXL is hitting the limits of reasonable pocketability in size and only because being a brick clamshell means it won't snag on anything.

[blazing burrow]

We go over the community results (starts at 1:13:48).

https://youtu.be/pEKn_FWXoA8

[naive blade]

Do you guys think if the flip2 releases it'll have it's own custom dock?

or will they make it work with the standard retroid dock?

[random tulip]

I'd bank on standard. But it's only standard until they release the next standard dock XD

[rigid thicket]

"Due to design constraints we had to create a whole new dock, but don't worry, it's backwards compatible!"

[stray dagger]

just like the standard dock ain't works with the RP Mini

[random tulip]

Don't worry. It'll have an adapter

[night vessel]

I hope stubbs is right and we hear something really soon from retroid

[blazing burrow]

Let's see!

[fathom geyser]

Even if the next clamshell that comes doesn’t have sliders I really do hope we eventually get some handhelds/controllers with them. I really love the way they feel

[tacit latch]

I don't mind them but sticks are better

[fathom geyser]

It really depends. I think I like them more for certain things than most sticks

I would love to see a vertical device use a slider or two eventually

[random tulip]

I have to say Retroid really killed it with them. They work great

[gentle badge]

as someone who mostly hates sticks on verticals I would accept sliders

[fathom geyser]

Pretty much in the same boat. If the 406v was released with sliders it’d be an instant buy

[gentle badge]

the 406v is big enough I don't mind the sticks

it's not like I'd pocket it with sliders

but I'd much prefer a slider on the 40xxV

[fluid stone]

As someone who's amused at seeing burgers that are smaller than they should be, I would accept sliders

[rapid echo]

2 screens please. Even if it's 240-360p. Good enough for 3ds/ds

[echo lynx]

magicx twosp!!!!!!

[tacit latch]

so an actual 3DS

[rapid echo]

A 3ds that runs android, then yes.

[echo lynx]

magicx twosp!!!!!!!!!!!

[rapid echo]

I looked up magicx twosp even with quotes, but can't find anything. is this an inside joke/meme

[random tulip]

#1266817458417832110 message

Don't think there's a ton of info. Just that it's been mentioned by magicx

[echo lynx]

No the super SP/threeds is

Twosp is real

[polar whale]

Every time I see it I just think.

"So much wasted space"

[fathom geyser]

I get that, but I think it’s kinda charming, I’m usually paying attention to the game anyways. Do I wish the home and back buttons and speakers were on the front? Yeah, but this thing still kicks ass for me with all it’s flaws

[polar whale]

What are you playing on it?

[fathom geyser]

Super Monkey Ball on Gamecube

One of the handful of Gamecube games that runs pretty good

It requires specific/accurate stick movement and I prefer playing it on my Flip than my RP2S

[candid sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[naive blade]

240p 2nd screen? Hell nah

blurry ds gameplay

[candid sonnet]

exactly, resolution is terrible for DS and honestly low res removes the most of whats good with emulation

and would be for other system as well -_-

[naive blade]

I would honetly pay like 80 dollars more for a 2nd rp mini screen on the bottom

oled and perfect integer scale of ds and 3ds

[tacit gorge]

are you using game store dolphin or some mmjr fork?

[urban jewel]

the actual ideal 2nd screen is literally just the RP Mini resolution. 1280x960. Perfect 5x DS lower screen scaling and 3DS lower screen would be perfect 4x lmao. It's insane how perfect that would be.

[echo lynx]

What about about top screen? Does it stay as rp5

[echo lynx]

The top screen loses this advantage

Unless you make it 15:9

[naive blade]

It think that would be fine

400ppi is good enough for anything

even if you're an integer scaling freak it's still pretty big

dsi xl screen is 4.2 inches, 3ds xl is 4.8 inches

so you're basically 99% of the way there

[echo lynx]

Hmm

If you render at 5x

Can the d8400 handle violent 3ds upscalingM

[tacit latch]

it really isn't as much of a big deal in real life as photos of the thing made it out to be

it also looks pretty clean to be honest

[coral valley]

If they don't add a second screen it'd be a missed opportunity

[stray dagger]

nah, 2nd screen is not needed, just give me the RP5 as a clamshell

[coral valley]

Nah we need some dual screen handhelds

[stray dagger]

that's a can of worms Retroid certainly doesn't wants to get into

[coral valley]

Idk I feel like they definitely have the budget for it with how successful the rp5 was

[random tulip]

Probably easier to just let other companies try first and steal the things that work from them

Smaller companies that want to break into new markets

[coral valley]

I mean other than maybe MagicX, I really don't think any of the smaller companies have the means to do something like that, or the processors to make a dual screen device worth it

Retroid already has the parts to make it work

[formal latch]

Not doubting you, just curious, was there sales data released about how the RP5 sold? It DID seem like most of the reviewers who had it spoke highly of it, so I'd believe it

[coral valley]

I mean no, I don't have any data on hand, but just looking at how many people have talked about it on YouTube and reddit, it does seem to be a very popular handheld

[stray dagger]

dual screen implementation of Android is a pain in the ass, also is the SD865 even capable of that?

[coral valley]

It can run most 3ds games at 4x

Just struggles a fair bit with stuff like xenoblade and mh4u

[stray dagger]

unlike MagicX who intend to use the latest MTK SoC for their device, the SD865 is pretty ancient and not quite all SoCs can even display on two screens, regardless of how powerful they are

[coral valley]

Pretty sure the original surface duo uses an older processor than the 865

Also the LG v60 with its dual screen attachment

[stray dagger]

age isn't really the deciding factor on that either

tho it's more likely that modern SoCs support it

[coral valley]

Right but the v60 has the same processor

[versed vigil]

The Surface Duo had the benefit of having Microsoft there to make a fully custom Android image optimized for dual screen, something they never publicly shared the data on how to do it with these chipsets on the driver end (so you’d need the RnD department of a large scale company just to make it happen, or you’d need to rely on open source and use whatever custom images for the thing are available, modify them for SD865, and then also make sure it works well enough).

[coral valley]

I mean, as far as I can tell that would only really apply to the home screen. Citra and Drastic both already have dual screen functionality as far as I know. Based on some testing footage OneXplayer seems to have gotten two screens to work with the OneXSugar, and they're a much smaller company than Microsoft

[random tulip]

Eh. I could see Anbernic attempting it too at some point

Then you got that sugarx crap

I think we'll see multiple options before Retroid jumps in

All probably with a slew of issues

[versed vigil]

OneXPlayer are cracked out of their minds and should not be considered the norm, considering they’re one of the first people who are making a handheld with that new AMD Chipset (which is of course, making the whole thing cost an insane amount, like all devices with the new chipset).

[random tulip]

I'd consider paying an insane amount for a dual screen portable. I'd just also like it to last longer than 6 months

[versed vigil]

These are the same guys that invested in a Handheld PC with a high res 4:3 screen. They are on another planet.

[coral valley]

Which one was that

[coral valley]

I'm okay with a slightly less polished experience if it means we finally get some innovation

[random tulip]

Had to go look it up because only 5 people were crazy enough to buy one 😆

[versed vigil]

Huh, I can’t find it, and I actually can’t find a lot of their older handhelds as well. I guess they delisted it.

[random tulip]

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1322030324435124326

Not gonna lie. This is tempting me

Horrible advertising and all

I just can't see it lasting more than a week

[versed vigil]

God, and of course the naming conventions they use are gonna make looking for it on google way more difficult than it should be if you don’t know the exact name, so this’ll take a while to find.

[coral valley]

I'm not really sure why they didn't just go with a clamshell honestly

[random tulip]

I mean I get and like the concept. It's just a lot of moving parts

I also am not one to mind something thiccc

[coral valley]

I did like it originally, but I'm pretty sure you can't use the 4:3 screen by itself, so the idea of having three handhelds in one is kind of lost

[random tulip]

I actually prefer thicc. For my hands. Love the RG cube

[random tulip]

Oh really? I thought they just hadn't shown it yet. My only concern would be that the big screen is facing outward while playing the small. Would have to just avoid setting it down or bumping into things.

[coral valley]

It's hard to know right now, but they mentioned that at CES, when asked about the 4:3 screen, the representative kind of blew it off, so I don't have high hopes. https://youtu.be/-bGERIsM4yU

[gentle badge]

https://x.com/retroid0fficial/status/1890058805179974012?s=46&t=8kw3vLNT6CHtByt67n6eKA

Retroid Pocket Official (@Retroid0fficial) on X

X · Feb 13, 2025, 3:21 PM

Boy they sure go from nothing in development to dropping teasers quick

Unless they’re trying to get people hyped over a grip lol

[random tulip]

Well that kills it for me. Haha. I'm not buying any handheld that won't at least fold into a normal rectangle

[ancient robin]

I assume this is the thing everyone has been waiting for

New sticker options

[viscid veldt]

new grip

[tacit latch]

LFG

I'm not sure I could have taken another week without news 😂

[random tulip]

Haha. RP5 grip is coming

Wouldn't overly shock me

[fathom geyser]

I kinda doubt Chris would comment that a grip is coming under the same announcement for a grip

[random tulip]

Lol. Kind of an awesome troll tho

I mean it could just be the announcement that the grip is coming. Lol

Could also be something diff altogether

A retroid vertical or something

[ancient robin]

I do doubt it's a Flip because they literally just asked for suggestions

Though I think they've done similar things before

[fluid stone]

Holy crap they're announcing it at blowjob time

[blazing burrow]

BJT intensifies

[echo lynx]

Sd 865 does 4x 3ds?

D8400 might do 6x

[twilit mulch]

As sweet as a Flip 2 would be (especially with a stronger feeling hinge), I'm going to go with expectations in check.
At least in terms of what it could deliver, there's bound to be inherent compromises with that form factor at a reasonable price range.

[random tulip]

I'm banking on not having a big reason to upgrade the flip 1s I have

Of course I don't really care if it has more power unless it comes with dual screens

Or Linux support

[cursive helm]

Hoping for the screens

@gentle badge for the record I remember the leak too but it looks like it's been scrubbed

[twilit mulch]

The only thing that I really expect from a hypothetical Flip 2 are the following:
Stronger hinges, D1100 chip or therabouts, bout the same screen as the Flip/3/4, hall effect sliders with maybe RGB lighting to make it look totally tubular, those kinds of concessions to meet a $200 price point.

[cursive helm]

I didn't have the hinge breakage issue my screen itself delaminated on the flip

Was a more unique form of breakage as far as I saw

[robust wedge]

You had my up until the screen. Love my flip but nothing scales perfectly on it and the housing could handle 5" easy.

[twilit mulch]

I'm just going in with grounded, or more cynical expectations. I think going in with super high expectations is what soured people on the RP5 after the RP4 Pro, its like they wanted an Odin 2 at a cheaper price or something.

[cursive helm]

Watch them sidestep us all and do some weird Sega style handheld like the RG arc

[twilit mulch]

Honestly that'd still be pretty sweet for Saturn emulation.

[cursive helm]

The analog controls are modeled after the PS1 negcon controller

[gentle badge]

sd865 = linux support

[night vessel]

Yeah that would make the announcement teaser kind of pointless. So I really hope it's the flip 2

[gentle badge]

it's either the flip 2 or they're going to announce a new gamecube colourway for the RP mini without fixing the screen first because they suck

[naive blade]

an iphone 6 screen would be suuuuper disapointing on a flip5

I want my oled display

go big or go home

[gentle badge]

the announcement tease thing is purple so I'm ready to be disappointed by retroid

[cursive helm]

Is that a theme

With them

[gentle badge]

the fact they still haven't done anything about the RP mini screen issue is insane

[cursive helm]

What's up with the screen

[gentle badge]

it gets interpolated weirdly so everything is blurrier than it should be

[cursive helm]

I have the mini and my smooth brain hasn't noticed

[gentle badge]

like even feeding a 960p signal to a 960p screen it's still interpolating for some reason

so you can't integer scale, shaders look terrible due to moire effect, and it's not as sharp as it should be at that res

[cursive helm]

Oh okay that makes sense

[twilit mulch]

"What's that, you want OLED you say? Not to fear, the Flip 2 will include our 3.7 inch OLED display from the RP Mini!"

• retroid

[cursive helm]

@twilit mulch I would be okay with this

[echo lynx]

D1100 you say?

[night vessel]

They probably know that they can't fix it and just hope everyone forget about it 😬

[cursive helm]

@echo lynx to shreds you say

[echo lynx]

That's called the magicx twosp

[gentle badge]

that certainly looks to be the case

[echo lynx]

Like genuinely confirmed

Magic x twosp

[gentle badge]

which is why new rp mini colours would be super dumb

[candid sonnet]

Holy shit it went faster than expected, I knew that this whole "lets see how much interest there is for Flip 2" was just marketing stunt, but I thought they will announce 1-2 months from now.

[tacit latch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1iolij1/retroid_teasing_annoucement/

reddit is so behind the curve it's not even funny

look at those comments

[gentle badge]

retroid was working on a flip 2 before the rp5 even shipped, and if they don't hurry up anbernic is gonna make a 557SP and beat them to it.

[steady osprey]

The more the merrier, let's hope 2025 is the year of the clamshell

Powkiddy needs to jump on this with a X18S Mark 2 Ultra DX UBER 1337 EDITION

[jolly kayak]

If anbernic would make a clamshell Linux based handheld in pocket flip form, I'd get that

[steady osprey]

Really hoping that Flip 2 is SD865 and we get a decent Linux build

[echo lynx]

Optimism

Optimism

Also what else would it be?

[echo lynx]

Just make it rp5 screen

[gentle badge]

flip 2 is just gonna be a clamshell rp5

just like flip 1 was a clamshell 3+

so it'll be the 5.5" 1080p oled and the sd865

[random tulip]

That's the dream

Totally fine with it

Imagine if it was ready for order and not just preorder

[fathom geyser]

I think they’re gonna drop Gamecube Mini to try to stall the fans, but I could be wrong

[random tulip]

Before we get hit with the +35% again

[echo lynx]

Dual screen please

[gentle badge]

not gonna happen

x86 is the only platform that is really designed for multiple screens at all

[robust wedge]

If they can fit that in a package the size of the 3DSXL I'll be happy, though I have doubts with the need for active cooling.

[random tulip]

Yeah. Without custom firmware

[twilit mulch]

I still think its best to be pessimistic. Retroid is the retro brand and AYN is the more "premium" brand, Retroid will cut corners somewhere with a Flip 2

[random tulip]

Maybe they took a Samsung fold screen and will just split it

[gentle badge]

retroid stuff is better built than ayaneo stuff lol

[robust wedge]

With at least one notable exception.

[random tulip]

Didn't he say ayn tho?

[gentle badge]

oh I'm dumb

I read that as ayaneo

[random tulip]

Haha. Happens all the time

[gentle badge]

nvm

[twilit mulch]

With the exception of their godawful speakers, I still find the Air line up to be pretty solid overall.
But ye, talking about AYN

[random tulip]

Ayn is solid tho

[gentle badge]

I do wish ayn used the retroid plastic formulation/texture tho

[random tulip]

But Retroid is great quality for the price point

[rigid thicket]

Most people do, I flip the two all the time 😂

[gentle badge]

the black plastic ayn uses (and forces you to buy if you don't want to buy the higher spec skus) is terrible

[fathom geyser]

Yeah when I joined this hobby I thought they were the same

[random tulip]

I personally love ayns plastic. But I don't really care that much about fingerprints

I like soft touch plastic on premium stuff

[gentle badge]

I hated the smudging on my black odin 2

[random tulip]

Yeah. I totally get why it drives people nutts

[gentle badge]

the black rp5 meanwhile gets the expected fingerprints on the glass but the plastic back is actually perfect

[fathom geyser]

Soft plastic gives me cheap vibes, it’s why I prefer the plastic on my transparent flip compared to my SNES

[random tulip]

For me cheapness is always how much it creaks when you squeeze it

Usually looser tolerances and less substantial frame

[fathom geyser]

The transparent plastic has more grip and just feels way more solid, worth more I’d say

[random tulip]

To be fair I'd take either with actual texture for grip

Smooth plastic or god forbid glass can die in a fire 🔥

[steady osprey]

SIGN.ME.UP.

[random tulip]

An all glass flip 2

[steady osprey]

Ok, less so THAT lol

[random tulip]

Remember to close it very softly

[steady osprey]

What time is that tease for those in North America?

A couple of hours?

[twilit mulch]

I think 5:30PM PST?

Almost near dinner more or less.

[gentle badge]

pretty sure the plan is to do a glass control panel on bottom as well as the glass screen up top, but obviously plastic on the outer shells of both halves lol

[steady osprey]

Inner glass still makes me super nervous but it could be elegant af

[gentle badge]

as long as it has good bumpers/shell design so you aren't going to have glass hitting glass if you close it too hard lol

[random tulip]

My issue is when it goes right to the edge

[steady osprey]

And a hinge made of adamantium

[random tulip]

Any corner drops suddenly take on a whole new aspect

[gentle badge]

fair

I decided to order the tpu shell for my RP5 because I'm worried about cracking the edge of the glass on something

[rigid thicket]

Someone's going to snap shut the flip a little too hard and shatter both glass halves 😂

[steady osprey]

Yea I've seen some shattered RP5s and oof

[random tulip]

On clams I always appreciated a slightly inset screen. Something that has a little wiggle room

After all, your applying force daily. Slipping it in pockets. Etc.

[gentle badge]

I'm sure it will be inset up top

[random tulip]

Yeah. I'd hope so

[gentle badge]

curious how close to the edge the glass will go on bottom

[random tulip]

There will def be posts. But hopefully not me 😆

Personally I'd prefer a plastic screen protector if they plan to fold the shit out of the glass again

Plastic controller protector? 😆

[twilit mulch]

Actually it never occured to me, but what if this announcement is just
RP Mini but with a plastic front and not a terrible glass front display

[gentle badge]

my money is either on a flip 2 tease or just new colours for the RP mini with no other changes (which I would be quite mad about given the screen situation), and my completely unjustified hopium is an rp1s or whatever they call a new budget vertical

[icy bramble]

Alright, I'll do it. I'll make an Android flip design with two screens.

[random tulip]

Id buy the shit out of a retroid vertical

[icy bramble]

One is on the outside, and then you flip it open to reveal the other with gaming controls on the bottom.

[rigid thicket]

My safe bet is a revised Mini maybe with a brick/RP2S shape so they have a proper pocketable device in their lineup again.

[twilit mulch]

A retroid vertical would be good, as long as the design is sleeker than Anbernic's android offerings and doesn't cost an arm and a leg like the Ayaneo DMG

[random tulip]

If they say they're looking at our feedback, I'd be shocked if it was a flip announcement. Unless it's really just a substance less announcement

Not that they wouldn't do that. But like why even waste the effort. And I feel like multiple people have said they were

[gentle badge]

you know what I would buy from retroid tthat they have never even hinted at even being open to doing? A controller. Dualshock layout with their good vita style dpad.

[random tulip]

I could see them showing renders of a flip and be like

[gentle badge]

they aren't looking at the feedback. the flip 2 has been in design for a long time

[rigid thicket]

"Looking at our feedback" is usually just PR friendly speak and might not even refer to the survey RGH did.

[gentle badge]

the feedback thing is just marketing beyond maybe colourways

[random tulip]

True. Stubbs seemed to imply they were interested in that specifically

[rigid thicket]

Anything that happens to align with the survey results they can point to as them "totally listening to our fans"

[gentle badge]

retroid lies to RH constantly

[random tulip]

Lol

[gentle badge]

they denied the mini existed a week before announcement

to their faces

[random tulip]

They were like "oh thank God. They picked what we decided"

[rigid thicket]

And anything that doesn't "we couldn't accomplish with our current constraints"

[random tulip]

Yeah. Makes sense

[rigid thicket]

It's like when the big 3 console makers used to say "There is nothing currently planned"

Though now they lean towards "We are always looking at the future"

[random tulip]

Yeah. Difference is, at least in the modern day, stuff is leaked to hell and back

Mostly through dev devices

Retroid don't have to worry about that

[rigid thicket]

Which is why they're still doing "There is nothing currently planned" ala the Mini, ahaha.

[random tulip]

Unfortunate. Maybe fuzzy OLED could have been resolved

[echo lynx]

Loose tolerance?

Is this a reference to the mini m dpad?

[random tulip]

Hehe

[naive blade]

Funny thing is I would still buy it. (if it was the size of a gba sp)

[random tulip]

Yeah. If anything they can tighten up the design a little

Flip 1 had some def space

[naive blade]

the flip 5 could have even technically housed a 5.5 inch screen but they cheepened out

[tacit latch]

an OLED 35xxsp competitor would probably sell

can you imagine if Retroid shows up again with a big AND mini variant of the flip

flip 2 + flip mini

savings would be destroyed, families torn apart

[stray dagger]

reject anything less than 4"

[tacit gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-1888331416015157494

[naive blade]

what does BJT stand for? Blow Job Technique?

[gentle badge]

Beijing time

[fluid stone]

Blowjob time. Go give some blowjobs so we get the announcement sooner!

[steady osprey]

Yea when BJT falls on Steak and Blowjob Day, you know it's gonna be a wild time

[gentle badge]

if the announcement is flip 2, a vertical, or a controller it'll all be worth it. If it's a grip or a new colorway of jank screen rp mini it won't be

[fluid stone]

A grip or new colorway would be really funny to hype up like this

[steady osprey]

What if it's a new colour way AND a screen fix for RP Mini?

[rigid thicket]

Mentally prepare for disappointment, ahaha.

[gentle badge]

that would be nice

I already lost faith and went rp5 over here

the grip would both make me mad they would hype it like this but also get me to buy it lmao

[night vessel]

Wasn't the first flip teased around the same time of the year?

[fluid stone]

I'd hope it's something actually interesting and the grip but that's probably a lot to ask for lol

[night vessel]

I remeber alot of people were mad because they thought it would be a more powerful rp already

[steady osprey]

What if it's a Flip 2 but using the RP4 (non-Pro) internals...that'd be a womp womp

[weary lark]

very Interested to see what this announcement ends up being

I would hope they wouldn’t hype up something like a new color when they know people are wanting a flip specifically

I would say I’d be excited for their answer to the 406H (love that screen) but I think the Mini fits that niche

So it’s gotta be the flip right?

Unless they’re doing a controller

Ooh or a vertical or 1:1

[steady osprey]

Did Anbernic's controller do that well?

[weary lark]

I do not know, maybe in some markets

[naive blade]

Honestly wh, would they do this if they are not releasing a handheld? Anything else would be really boring.

[random tulip]

Maybe all the bitching about rp5 grips made them think it's what the world wants most. Wouldn't be the first time

[fathom geyser]

He already announced that in the comments and david spoke about it a few days ago

[random tulip]

True. But as far as everything everyone told me about Retroid it's just that they kinda do what they wanna do

[robust wedge]

Low-key hate how much that was focused on. Esp when the one major way the RGB30 was superior to the RGCubeXX was how damn thick Anbernic made the Cube for "eRgOnOmIcS".
The silliest part is the Cube doesn't even feel that much nicer in the hand than the RGB30.

I'll go even further, even the cheapest 3d-printed add-on grip will be inherently superior because you can also make them different sizes.

[cyan seal]

8:30pm tonight EST

Eastern Time Zone 🇺🇸 💪

The One True Timezone

That’s 9:30am BJT Feb 14

[rigid thicket]

Everything should be flat back with optional ergo attachments 😤

Like the reverse of magnetic face plates.

Magnetic ergo backs.

[jagged blade]

Has Retroid fixed the screen on the mini yet?

[severe ridge]

Nop

[sweet rune]

BJT sounds amazing tbh

[echo lynx]

Wonder what the bj stands for

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494737

[jagged blade]

took me a second to see what you did there.

[tacit latch]

we can all get behind BJT

[steady osprey]

Or in front, as it were

[steady osprey]

I am ready...to be hurt...

(in an hour)

[cyan seal]

I’m ready for the disappointment

It’s gonna be single screen, 4.7” IPS, Dimensity 900, 8GB/128

Literally the same as the Flip 1 but with the old RP4 SoC

It’ll be available in puke brown and banana yellow. No atomic purple or GameCube purple.

https://tenor.com/view/because-fuck-them-why-gif-12024919

And it’ll be $250 because inflation and tariffs. God bless America.

[pallid pilot]

Banana yellow doesn't sound that bad actually

[cyan seal]

But fr, if it was just a single 5.5” OLED Flip with SD 865 instead of dual display I’d still buy it

[echo lynx]

Yum

Dual screen please

[cyan seal]

I legit want a Zune brown

[echo lynx]

Magicx needs to know what they're up against

[noble canyon]

dual screen boutta kill the battery

[cyan seal]

Classic Zune chocolate poop brown LFG

I had a OG Zune back in the day, it was actually awesome

In brown

[pallid pilot]

Id buy something like that, it's no wood grain though

[cyan seal]

I’m about to get on a flight for 3 hours so I’m gonna be playing catch up

[steady osprey]

Also a Zune lover

[cyan seal]

I wonder if there’s still software that supports the Zune

[steady osprey]

They're probably all spicy pillows by now

[cyan seal]

I’ve been thinking of getting a Zune Hd or an iPod classic and modding it

SSD, etc

[tacit latch]

I hate to say this, but it's very possible the announcement turns out to be just new colors for the RP Mini

[sharp narwhal]

This or a grip for RP5!

[formal latch]

Yeah I'm prepared to be disappointed

[urban jewel]

I was under the impression that they were reducing colors for the RP Mini, not adding