Lenovo Legion Go 2

[gray wyvern]

Yeah I’ve got it on my Go S as well.

I’m glad it doesn’t break the Legion Space overlay, I was concerned about that. In my case, using Start + Select does not open the Xbox button. I had to key a back button to it

[manic rune]

So the big question here is whether this is anything but cosmetic at this point. Any observable performance benefits?

[upper halo]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-ecw-champion-gulp-gulps-nervous-gif-16766246

lol which device to guinea pig

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-21701888

I have a feeling i’m about to see a lot of xbox handheld videos 😅

[manic rune]

I might have to put this on the A1M Claw.

[upper halo]

Just something to be mindful of

[versed goblet]

Guess they must use same background processes. So you can only have one or other.

[upper halo]

This is exciting stuff though! MS finally taking a real step forward with this. I wonder if this will differ on the Xbox Ally/X. I remember reading that desktop mode would require a restart but I could be mistaken.

[latent pulsar]

how are you finding the old msi claw? ive found some quite decently priced here

[versed goblet]

Yeah it does to get fully out of it back to Windows.

[gray wyvern]

People have said there are. I haven’t played anything yet

[versed goblet]

Im guessing it loads into windows with all the “windows” processes off. Then when you reboot into windows. It turns them all back on

[gray wyvern]

The risks are:
running Windows Release Preview 25H2. On the Go S you’ll sometimes get a bug where the task manager pops up continually like a touch screen issue, but that’s 25H2 and not the tweaks to get Xbox mode working

I also cannot open the Xbox button, but binding the Win+G to the rear button works fine for that

Legion Space appears to work fine and the right menu seems to be snappier

[versed goblet]

@upper halo i would say if anyone does this for them to keep an eye on the releases area which will hopefully continue to get updates to fix bugs when flagged

[versed goblet]

Yeah i hear legions work fine and i think i saw somewhere someone say OG Ally worked

[mortal plover]

I miss doo-rag Vince

[gray wyvern]

Also, you do not have to reboot to get the desktop

[versed goblet]

Ooo you do on xbox ally x

[upper halo]

That's where I'm thinking this is still not quite the same experience.

I remember reading for the Xbox Ally X, that you had to

[gray wyvern]

It’s got everything else the same, but I can tap the Windows Desktop button in the task viewer and it launches the explorer.

[upper halo]

I know it's a preview build so it's possible they're still cooking stuff

Pretty interesting

[versed goblet]

🤔

All very cool stuff

@upper halo maybe the ally x may not need reboots when launched

Maybe this is a future build to ones shown off

[gray wyvern]

And Hollow Knight launches with the overlay in the middle of the display instead of 3/4 on the display so the windowing mode stuff is definitely working

[upper halo]

If that's the case, it's awesome. This is basically the equivalent to how SteamOS operates with its desktop mode.

[manic rune]

It would not surprise me if Microsoft has some special stuff set up for their "own" devices. We are talking Microsoft, after all.

[versed goblet]

The only thing i can see. Is asus control center (forgot what it is called) was baked into the xbox game bar

And no separate app

But they said that functionality will come to lenovo, msi etc in future

I can live without that for now tbh

[gray wyvern]

Crude A/B test. I launched Hollow Knight and sat at the main screen in Xbox mode and then launched the desktop and desktop mode had another 300MB of RAM usage listed by gamebar

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-so-exciting-tracy-kiss-thats-awesome-its-incredible-im-so-excited-gif-27409984

Glad it is actually having a meaningful impact

[gray wyvern]

It certainly feels snappier running the UI and stuff for sure. The Xbox app, the legion space overlay, it all feels more deck like in responsiveness

[versed goblet]

@upper halo a useful comment

[manic rune]

If you get an A1M Claw cheap enough, it's fine. You can get performance comparable to (usually just a bit worse) than the Z1 Extreme devices as long as you're running stuff that doesn't choke on Intel drivers. And what Stubbs and others say about the speakers is true - best audio experience without headphones on a handheld.

[gray wyvern]

Having Gamepass games launch with the overlay in the middle of the screen is worth it all though

[manic rune]

I will have to mess with this tonight. Give the Claw a makeover and maybe an Ally.

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-skipper-good-lets-get-to-work-work-lets-get-to-work-gif-22787782

[muted galleon]

Can you still launch straight to steam big picture if you want to? Or other frontends like playnite?

[haughty hatch]

gamebar and quick multitask

[versed goblet]

Under windows desktop mode i assume yeah

[versed goblet]

Stop teasing me! 🥵

[gray wyvern]

You can install “apps” to launch in Xbox

If steam is set to launch big picture by default it should work

[muted galleon]

I mean while enjoying the other benefits like less resource usage etc

[haughty hatch]

the real xbox go 2

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[upper halo]

that screen is doing things to my body

[manic rune]

All I need to be able to do is launch my Steam games, GOG games, PCSX2/Duckstation, and Firefox. If all that works from the full-screen mode, then excellent.

[gray wyvern]

Yeah you can do that

[gray wyvern]

How’d you get gamebar to open so easy?

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/go-big-red-gif-6215135281665600337

[manic rune]

If it works really well, maybe I will do Gamepass again. Microsoft can be rewarded when they do actual good stuff.

[gray wyvern]

I’m running dual boot just for Gamepass

[versed goblet]

I remember them saying xbox games stream. Unless there is a pc version available. So you should see your xbox library too

So kinda xbox handheld 🤷🏻‍♂️😅

Lol @plush acorn @gloomy meteor got a lot of reading to do above 🤣

[haughty hatch]

bind the button

[gray wyvern]

I hope Microsoft puts basic performance level controls into gamebar like MSI did.

That would really seal the deal for me

[haughty hatch]

you can edit the button map

[upper halo]

I got a Z1 Ally sitting in a box here, maybe I should test on that? 🤣

[manic rune]

It doesn't look terribly hard to install.

[manic rune]

You and me both.

I mean ... why not?

[haughty hatch]

we just need proper sleep function

no need steamos

anymore

[versed goblet]

My ally has bazzite. So will use my go for this till Go 2 arrives

[gray wyvern]

I use Hibernate and that works with most stuff so I’m fine at the moment with it

[versed goblet]

Or i could use my Win 4 😬

Mini xbox handheld

[manic rune]

Oh ... I know! WIN600 XBOX

[gray wyvern]

Do the ISO install method and not the insider preview from within the OS.

A lot better

[manic rune]

I think I'd choose the ISO just so I don't have to download it 3 or 4 times.

[gray wyvern]

Yeah, and it’s reliable

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-pretty-sick-marques-brownlee-that's-wild-so-insane-mkbhd-gif-9250963162142038158

[gray wyvern]

If you don’t have DeviceForm in the registry I have the instructions to add it too

Go to OEM like the guide tells you. Then create a new value for OEM called DeviceForm and select DWord32 as the format. Then enter the value in hexadecimal or decimal and reboot. You’ll have two entries in the OEM field now, Default and DeviceForm

My Go S didn’t have DeviceForm as an entry for some reason, it could be due to the fact that it’s the Steam model and I installed windows manually, it got tablet mode though so not totally sure

[haughty hatch]

i dont do this step

weirdly

[gray wyvern]

Your device might have it already

It might be that if you reinstall windows or install it fresh it doesn’t exist.

A few other people on Reddit have said that it isn’t there for them too

After doing the insider previews for Xbox and windows if you don’t have it, I’d check that registry key and see if it exists

[haughty hatch]

i just install windows 11 preview

and use vivotool

thats it

[spark robin]

That thing can barely run windows normally. So maybe the Xbox thing will help it more than most....

[manic rune]

That's actually what I was thinking ... every little bit might help.

[gloomy meteor]

Can you TL;DR?

[spark robin]

I recall Jelos really transformed it into a great emulation device for that reason, getting away from windows

[versed goblet]

Xbox mode for all

Not just xbox ally handhelds

Can install now

[gray wyvern]

Probably not the right channel for it

Also when I try to go back to full screen experience I do get prompted to reboot or launch full screen without rebooting or the optimizations, so at least in the prompt that aspect is working

[manic rune]

For better or worse, this is the PC handhelds discussion channel right now simply because the LeGo2 is the next mainstream PC handheld to release. 🙃

[gray wyvern]

True

[haughty hatch]

basically you can hard skip Xbox ally x

[gray wyvern]

I’m kinda tempted to try this on my dual booting Deck

[haughty hatch]

[gray wyvern]

I can’t get over how snappy the legion space overlay on the right side is in full screen mode

[manic rune]

SteamOS vs Xbox Mode would be interesting.

[gray wyvern]

None of that jank it has otherwise

[haughty hatch]

i decided not to install steam os

egpu works

hopefully proper quick resume will be there

[versed goblet]

I hope the iso gets archived. Just in case Microsoft pull it before Xbox ally launch

Seems unlikely but you never know

[manic rune]

I think that version is probably releasing October 2025 anyway.

Just in time for (maybe?) my Legion Go 2 to be ready at Best Buy.

[gray wyvern]

I don’t think there any worries about that. Microsoft probably doesn’t care tbh

More people testing it on more platforms

[haughty hatch]

why would they

they will release it anyway

[versed goblet]

This is Microsoft. They do odd things sometimes 😅

[haughty hatch]

its Asus who will suffer

microsoft wont care

their goal is pretty much steamos

[latent pulsar]

ooooh, yes im curious about this

[manic rune]

Asus probably won't suffer much unless their price point is too high. If it's the rumored $900 they will sell.

[haughty hatch]

i heard xbox ally x will cost 1k

they are in pinch now, xbox fans wont like this

[manic rune]

I will likely try it ... I have a 32GB/1TB WIN600 that I need to do something with.

[latent pulsar]

a 32gb one? huh 😄 nice

i have a 16/512gb one with steamfork

[manic rune]

(I had a compatible ram stick in my parts bin)

[plush acorn]

Heh, I preordered mine first day, but given what we're seeing in other countries, I won't be suprised if Best Buy says, jk we don't have enough for you to pick up on 10/31.

[manic rune]

Oh, I fully expect them to screw this up in the US too.

[plush acorn]

The original Z1E Steam Go S I ordered ended up shipping a week or two late, and then was lost by UPS lol. Never even saw it.

[gray wyvern]

From Bestbuy?

[plush acorn]

Yep. FWIW customer service was responsive and refunded me without any issues. Still was a bummer.

[gray wyvern]

I think Bestbuy has an insider theft problem

They lost a bunch of GPUs as well

[plush acorn]

I did get a $50 credit as an apology for the delay, which I ended up using on an open box z2g model.

[plush acorn]

It was lost after UPS took posession though, so - not at Best Buy's warehouse.

[manic rune]

Your Go got up and went.

[plush acorn]

It tracked up to a city about 2 hours from me, then just never updated.

[gray wyvern]

Yeah that’s what happened with the GPUs too

They just vanished in transit

[manic rune]

What GPU can brown steal for YOU?

[gray wyvern]

I wonder if someone was selling tracking data of specific purchases. Similar to the Amazon return scheme that was going on

[plush acorn]

What's interesting is a few weeks after they refunded me, I saw the UPS tracking update and that it was returned to sender.

So I think it was just misplaced by UPS. Or they "Found" it

(Secretly I was hoping it would still get delivered later, lol)

That's happened with amazon before. Ordered a stroller when my wife was pregnant, never showed up, got a refund. Like 3 months later UPS randomly drops off a stroller.

[latent pulsar]

hmm i have a loki mini pro i could try with this

[versed goblet]

You could 😉

[latent pulsar]

rather test it on my win600 first 😄

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-ten-beach-movies-tv-show-rad-gif-433318023425448706

Win600 is going to be sick!!

[haughty hatch]

task switcher

a bit finnicky you have to long press legion +rs

i wish we can bind dedicated xbox button

[versed goblet]

Can you not map it to a back button?

Think someone earlier said they did that on Go S

[haughty hatch]

no i guess

share to me

[versed goblet]

#1317213212239859733 message

@gray wyvern are you able to advise?

[haughty hatch]

yeah that is only single click

it doesnt detect long press

one press is gamebar

long press is task switcher

task switcher is not alt+tab

its new

[gray wyvern]

Yeah I bound Win+G to the back button using the keyboard binds in legion space

I hate you cannot bind long and short presses of buttons. I miss that from the Ally software

[haughty hatch]

tellem to ben

[gray wyvern]

But Legion Space + Right stick press work for Xbox button and task switcher well enough

[gray wyvern]

Ben is useless man

He’s a marketing hype man

[haughty hatch]

ben myers

he is doing AMA yesterday

[versed goblet]

https://youtu.be/8cD4krJLndY?si=oXOXUN9YzRYxiUB1

Walkthrough on Ally

https://x.com/lenovolegion/status/1968389588147200248?s=46&t=W6WfgknjfK4-AMAr6C71lA

Lenovo Legion (@LenovoLegion)

OG Go vs. Lenovo Legion Go Gen 2, which would you pick?? #lenovolegiongogen2 #gamer #gaming #lenovolegion #lenovolegiongaming

X · Sep 17, 2025, 7:00 PM

[stark ginkgo]

That’s like 2kg worth of handhelds

[manic rune]

I've found my new arm workout routine...

[mortal plover]

curls for girls 💪

[manic rune]

Also $2K worth of handhelds

[stark ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-yes-lol-animal-music-gif-5573804

[haughty hatch]

hdr toggle on

[long panther]

OG go used 400$

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

Just updated, now down to 10/10 😬

Come on lenovo. Bring it even closer

[bitter flicker]

Where were you from again mate? That ship date of yours isn't giving me my 'what half of the world they're in' hint.

[versed goblet]

UK. Was end of oct. Then updated to 10th

[bitter flicker]

Yeah, any other day this month and I wouldn't have needed to ask. Thanks

[haughty hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoM_B25MbXs

trash

[versed goblet]

Yeah his content isn’t for me. So won’t be taking his advice 😅

[high cypress]

The funny thing is this:

Trash

Meanwhile: pre-order is sold out on the manufacturer site

[haughty hatch]

him and austin evans are pal

[high cypress]

And don't forget, ASUS didn't announce yet the prices for the Xbox Rog Ally X

[versed goblet]

They work for same management agency

So their content is very similar

[haughty hatch]

report their content

[versed goblet]

Easier just not to watch and play into their click bait videos

[haughty hatch]

is retrodad like that?

[versed goblet]

Hell no. Dad is the best

[haughty hatch]

will keep in watch

[versed goblet]

Rh, Dad, teamretrogue, retrobreeze, retrogamecorps, bassderek etc are main ones i watch/trust.

Austin etc usually just take things are face value and never really tinker. So if performance isn’t good out of box. You get these “trash” videos

[haughty hatch]

poor af people will be shitting on anything based on price

[versed goblet]

I actually think its not a bad price in UK

It was what I expected

Im hoping US get open box soon after launch. Will make pill a bit easier to swallow for those holding out

[mortal plover]

That YouTube video is rage bait for views. Move along. 🤣

[versed goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegionGo/s/kKlWBdCEHt

You gotta love the drama

[latent pulsar]

handheld people being whiny and toxic twats? i am shocked 😄

[worthy edge]

I resemble this remark!

[gray wyvern]

Answer: Lenovo has long been a company that refuses to accept anything moderate or negative. If you want a review sample you’ve basically got to be payroll. A lot of Chinese phone brands back in the day were the same way like Huawei, OnePlus, Honor and others

[haughty hatch]

mine cancelled

[manic rune]

I'm not sure what most are expecting from the Legion Go 2, but what I expect from it is: (1) A bit better top-end performance over devices like the Ally X, (2) Actually good battery life running stuff that can run at lower TDP, (3) A huge motherfucking VRR OLED screen

[stable kettle]

Huh. cancelled it yourself, right? Or am I getting the wrong impression

[haughty hatch]

you cant cancel it by yourself

[stable kettle]

What hahah

[haughty hatch]

nvm i'll buy through retail

[stable kettle]

Do they not have enough to fulfill preorders or what

[gray wyvern]

Probably just the screen

[worthy edge]

I expect better controllers. Goddammit Lenovo, come on.

[manic rune]

Yeah, what's with this trackpad nonsense? Trackpoint or GTFO. 🙃

[worthy edge]

That would be amazing

I love it on my Trackpoint Keyboard II

[manic rune]

I need a Thinkpad-branded handheld with dual orange Trackpoint nipples.

[worthy edge]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/4y40x49493

It's what I actually have paired with my LeGo to use at work

[gray wyvern]

Would be better then the Go S trackpad nonsense lol

[manic rune]

I might actually have to pick up one of those.

... for when I'm not bringing my X1 Tablet for work.

[worthy edge]

The typing feel is really really good for a keyboard of its size, if you're a fan of the ThinkPad keyboard feel

Battery charge lasts a long time

[manic rune]

I don't even use that thing on my S. I agree - putting a trackpoint there would have at least made it a usable mouse control.

[manic rune]

First laptop I ever bought was a Thinkpad 385XD.

[haughty hatch]

https://www.pcguide.com/news/we-cant-ship-in-a-timely-manner-lenovo-cancels-some-pre-orders-for-legion-go-2/?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwM6S0tleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHnbuHzwuUgWErbCZ2vVVc-V9VBcvNFcY4jCGXvtnfwDx2Li64Co_GX07Oqtk_aem_9PPSMsz-xhwbxGRC8ezd0Q

[versed goblet]

Mine still going strong 💪 they moved it to earlier date. Now 10th

[latent pulsar]

inb4 it gets cancelled too

[plush acorn]

Well I guess I won't be shocked if Best Buy delays my delivery on this one just like they did with the Go S.

Lenovo really has a hard time figuring out product launches

[upper halo]

same for MSI

they just can't seem to figure this out 😅

[haughty hatch]

dont order from lenovo

[plush acorn]

Every time it's 'orders exceeded demand'

Well.. I'll give that a pass the first time. But multiple releases later?

ASUS doesn't seem to have this problem

[waxen kiln]

MSI's secret move is to just not launch anything. It just shows up on a website somewhere... sometime...

[spark robin]

Also the zotac strategy.

"strategy"

[plush acorn]

Lol yeah. Claw A8... it exists? It doesn't exist? We don't even know!

[gray wyvern]

Did they even say that? I didn’t see it in the PCWorld statement. It looks more like they don’t have enough coming in to fulfill seller obligations

[plush acorn]

I believe they said it in their reddit post, one sec

there it is

Also typo, I meant to say orders exceeded supply, or similar

They updated their AMA post from 4 days ago twice: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegionGo/comments/1nhni67/were_the_lenovo_legion_team_ask_us_anything_about/

Which is what pcguide was quoting

[gray wyvern]

Gotcha, wonder what their projections were

[plush acorn]

Yeah, would be interesting to know how many they projected vs were ordered. I know businesses won't reveal that stuff. But is it hundreds? Thousands? Tens of Thousands?

[gray wyvern]

I still don’t fully buy it tbh though

The first Go had all those issues due to higher demand but when I bought another one off Amazon a year later, the build date was a day 1 unit

[plush acorn]

I mean, I could see an artificial scarcity angle. But why cancel preorders, that's making them less money.

[gray wyvern]

It could just be an allocation issue. They most likely have a contract in place with BB to fulfill their orders

[plush acorn]

Ah, so their own site taking less priority

hmm

[gray wyvern]

Yeah

I just don’t know how you constantly fumble the bag this badly

[manic rune]

Did they just not get that people actually WANT a premium handheld device from a recognized brand?

[gray wyvern]

So that’s kind of why I don’t think the sales numbers are anything crazy. Probably lower then the OG Go

Windows handhelds with big flaws like the Claw, Go, and OG Ally have really soiled the experience. The rest of the market has the Deck or just bought a Switch 2

[versed goblet]

Yeah “very” customers (catalog type store in UK) has already sent out units to customers. So strange that their own site is delaying

[plush acorn]

I guess when you think about it it kinda makes sense. They probably have order commitments to retailers and breaking those commitments would be worse for them than cancelling direct customer orders...

[versed goblet]

I’m happy to wait. As i get my work discount via lenovo site. So 😅 can’t really order anywhere else unless i want to pay more haha

[spark robin]

There's really no rush, you'll be fine 👍

[versed goblet]

In other news, im about to look fly!

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-me-roland-roland-schitt-chris-elliot-schitts-creek-gif-20802674

[long panther]

Anybody know if you can do 4k 144hz with the legion go 1?

[spark robin]

It's a 1600p screen

[long panther]

😐

[fossil cloud]

I’m just hoping fingers crossed in a few months we get an official steamos version and lenovo drops the price on it since they won’t have to pay for a windows license.

[gray wyvern]

It’s free money for them, I doubt a specific variant is going to come

[versed goblet]

They did say there were looking into a steam version on their reddit ama. But no solid confirmations 😅

[versed goblet]

Oooo just got a voucher from Lenovo to apologies for delays 🫠

[haughty hatch]

more drama

[gray wyvern]

NZ though

[haughty hatch]

i hope its 1399 on us

[gray wyvern]

899 or 999 are what I suspect, 899 before today’s Xbox price hikes

[haughty hatch]

hope it fails

but if it fails, xbox wont focus on FSE

damn

[gray wyvern]

It’s gonna be a home run tbh

Ally but with good ergonomics + better performance and better mid to low performance

[haughty hatch]

the screen is shit

washed out

vrr start from 48

[gray wyvern]

LOL

[haughty hatch]

i cant go back after seeing go 2

hdr

[gray wyvern]

It’s a great screen, VRR range doesn’t change any of that when LFC is still a thing.

[haughty hatch]

bright vivid saturated

[gray wyvern]

It’s good but if it’s really 899 vs 1349 the Go is dead on arrival

[coarse pulsar]

It's still sold out though. 😂

[versed goblet]

Sold out and still loads on backorder, wouldnt say its dead at all

899 not confirmed anyhow

Last i saw it was 1099 due to xbox price increases but even that is still a rumor

[gray wyvern]

With zero sales numbers lol

Sold out means nothing if you don’t know what the initial numbers were lol

[worthy edge]

Why are people fighting over which one is going to "win?" It's dumber than the console wars, because it's the same goddamn platform.

Hopefully they all "win" because we get choice

[swift quiver]

So I guess the true question you have to ask yourself to see if the LEGO 2 is worth it is:
Does the efficiency boosts of the Z2E and the VRR OLED screen in a handheld device worth it over all the other alternatives.

I know personally it isn't worth for me, but I've seen plenty of people in this hobby spend more money for technically less than what the LEGO 2 is offering.
Also Best Buy layaway plus warranty does make it a slightly safer buy than the Chinese handhelds.

[versed goblet]

Good way of looking at it! For me. This is my perfect device. But its not for everyone. I also have no qualms with other devices. I hope the xbox ally x does really well. Competition means better devices at the end of the day 😅

[worthy edge]

The LeGo 1 has been so damn good for me, especially after battery and SSD upgrade. I am salivating for the Go 2 controllers.

[worthy edge]

I finally gave in and tried out the Lossless Scaling thing after seeing people going off about it yet again...and so far it actually works pretty well. I hate 'extra' shit that I don't need that just takes up resources, but this was actually worth setting Decky up

I'm old and crotchety though, so that's just me. I don't give a crap about themes and all that. I want every single MB of RAM and all processor cycles possible devoted to what I am playing

[haughty hatch]

og is bigger

[rose pier]

And yet people complained that the Go 2 was too bulky

[cyan totem]

Go 2 is smaller and yet even heavier than the Go 1 which was widely criticized for being way too heavy.

[long panther]

It's a lap kinda handheld

.

[plush acorn]

I think go 2 is slightly taller and it’s thicker. But it’s less wide by a bit. The perspective of that picture exaggerates the difference a bit

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/perspective-pass-ball-big-small-gif-13986062

[plush acorn]

*"I was worry about people complaining about the Legion Go 2 weight. So I decided to weigh my Go1 with the comfort grips I’ve always use.

It comes to a total of a 912gr VS the estimated 920gr of the Go2. But Go2, hopefully, won’t need comfort grips due to the new controller shape. "*

From reddit. If you use the go 1 with 3d printed grips it's basically same weight as go 2...

[versed goblet]

Legion Go 2 has been removed from UK site :/

Only Go S showing now

[spark robin]

Vapourware

[versed goblet]

Still available via very though 😅

[latent pulsar]

fuck 😄

[gray wyvern]

Another price hike to the S in the US as well :/

[mortal plover]

Guess that's one way to close the price gap between the Z1E S and Lego 2 🤣

[versed goblet]

My order is still in however. Guessing they want to clear all the orders first on 10th before taking anymore 🤷🏻‍♂️ but sounds like others got the sorry vouchers too

[latent pulsar]

what kind of sorry vouchers we talking? 😄

[latent pulsar]

oof, how bad?

[manic rune]

Best Buy has it at $979 right now.

[gray wyvern]

Another $50

Actually it varies a little.

The original Go also went up $50

SteamOS base is $649 instead of $599 (remember when it was supposed to be $549???)

Really makes me wonder how long Valve can hold out on raising the price of the Deck

[mortal plover]

kidna why i went ahead and bit the bullet on getting a steam deck while we're approaching the end of 2025

[manic rune]

This is so screwed up ... old computer hardware is never supposed to go up in price.

[versed goblet]

Essentially they give you another 10% off anything voucher. Doesn’t seem to have an expiry date

[manic rune]

Seems like forever ago when I got a Z1 Extreme open box Ally for $329.

[mortal plover]

the fact that the 2TB XB Series X is now at $800 blows my mind

[latent pulsar]

sadly the reality of the new world. It's shit for us but don't buy at launch and wait for drops i guess

i hope valve gets back to me this week about my RMA, i miss my oled 😄

[mortal plover]

or that the Nintendo Switch (1) got a price hike is very weird

[latent pulsar]

im still waiting for more interesting switch 2 exclusives before i decide on buying one

[upper halo]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[mortal plover]

and for there to be a switch 2 lite, an oled edition, or combo of both

[long panther]

watch switch 2 lite not have hdmi out while being more expensive than the og switch

so it is incentifizes you to want to buy the more expensive one

like they can't get away with it

Even 50 dollar anbernic devices have hdmi out

[worthy edge]

I was a big Switch fan. 4 systems in our home, 300+ physical games. Nintendo managed to absolutely kill my interest with the decisions they made for Switch 2. Crazy price increase on the system, crazy price increase for the games, switching to key cards or whateverthefuck they're calling the stupid blank carts, all the paid upgrades to old games...they can die in a fire now.

I saw the writing on the wall and slowly migrated my family to (used) Steam Decks. If I'm going to lose physical ownership anyway, there's nothing holding me back. At least on PC I still have GOG. I buy most games 1 time and everybody can play, and I pay a small fraction of what I was paying before.

[bitter flicker]

I think the cracks are appearing with the Switch 2 and Nintendo could finally get fucked up / tarnished if they don't do something super risky with the Switch 3. They're running out of road on the 'we make gamers out of people who don't play video games' and their legal bullshit is becoming as much of their brand as Mario was back in the early days.

[worthy edge]

I'll probably be either dead or too elderly to play by the time Switch 3 comes around lol

[latent pulsar]

sadly they have that massive stockholm syndrome base. Sure some are being turned away but i'll believe it when i see it for Nintendo to really get tarnished 😄

[manic rune]

Nintendo probably has more to lose from phone games eating their base of kids than from other console manufacturers taking their customers.

[gray wyvern]

Nintendo doesn’t have much to lose outside of timeshare. Their games don’t appear on other consoles so it really doesn’t matter what the rest of the market does or doesn’t do. All they need to do is not be a crazy outlier and they really aren’t

[long panther]

Steamdeck is much better overall value

around the same power as the nintendo switch 2 and the games are much much cheaper

it can emulate FOR FREE

[mortal plover]

makes me wonder whether the snapdragon 8 gen 2 will also be able to handle switch 2 emulation.... for preseveration reasons 👀

[long panther]

I made a promise that I wont be getting a switch 2 until it gets retroarch support

soo, give it 5 years?

[plush acorn]

Holy poop $900 just for the Z1E Steam

That $670 I paid for one used a couple weeks ago is looking even better now

[mortal plover]

i've said it before, but this is no longer a mainstream hobby, portable pc gaming... it's becoming something geared towards diehards now

[gray wyvern]

That’s what I paid too

[plush acorn]

I’m even considering backing down to just a z2 legion go 2… I’m mostly after the screen and form factor rather than performance. Bummer that it’s only 16gb of ram though.

[manic rune]

If it was 32GB I'd have probably gotten that one. I want the 32GB because I'm also planning on using it for work and I could use the RAM.

[swift quiver]

Not sure what these companies are thinking, but price increases on stuff that's already expensive isn't going to increase sales.

[manic rune]

Can't justify it "just" for gaming.

[manic rune]

They're not thinking "Let's up and move our operations to the US." They'd rather just eat the lower sales.

[high cypress]

Iirc Go 2 doesn't have 16 gb version, only 32 🤔

Even for Z2 regular processor

[plush acorn]

Not in the US. It’s 16gb here on the Z2

[high cypress]

Oh, this is sad

[plush acorn]

They do different configs in different regions

[high cypress]

I see

[plush acorn]

We also don’t get the cheaper 512gb SKUs

[high cypress]

16 gb is not that much

Maybe when Lenovo will release in the US in the official website there could be the possibility to configure 32 gb of Ram and 512gb SSD packing the Z2 regular

[mortal plover]

Paying over $1K and getting 16gb of ram. Yikes.

[fossil cloud]

Don't they still sell them at a loss because of the steam store? If so they could theoretically not raise the price ever

[plush acorn]

That would be nice

I don’t think we ever got any of the uk or eu configs for the go 2 or go s though so I wouldn’t hold my breath

[gray wyvern]

All consoles are sold at a loss, but all three have taken price hikes

[plush acorn]

Consoles but not necessarily pc handhelds outside of deck? Why would Asus and Lenovo lose money on handhelds with no revenue stream like a storefront for games to profit from?

[gray wyvern]

Yeah agreed, but ASUS and Lenovo aren’t really consoles in the normal meaning of the term

At least the deck has platform lock in to an extent

[waxen kiln]

The second half of 2025 has taught me that selling my Ally X for $500 back in July was a mistake. I could've had an appreciating asset. Generated generational wealth!

[fossil cloud]

"generational" is a good pun there

[plush acorn]

lol. Tech appreciating in value is a rare phenomenon.

[plush acorn]

Oh you meant Xbox and ps price hikes. Misinterpreted your comment.

[manic rune]

Everyone hold on to your WIN600s ... they'll start going up in price any moment now. Aaaaaaany moment now.

[upper halo]

https://tenor.com/view/birdman-hand-rub-thinking-dance-gif-17449632

[worthy edge]

Anbernic quietly raises price by $50

[gray wyvern]

Yeah, Xbox, ps, switch

[waxen kiln]

Gonna start investing in Kun stock. That artwork box alone should be worth something... Someday.

[spark robin]

https://steamdeckhq.com/news/steam-deck-lcd-big-discount-autumn-sale/

[fossil cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-sales-wwe-entrance-gif-5206346

[spark robin]

It's a funny timeline right now. Super cheap legion go's/Ally's/steam decks, and super expensive new devices.

I'll be sticking with my OG legion go for a while

[long panther]

insane to think about the fact that the steamdeck is now cheaper than the switch 2

[latent pulsar]

im still tempted to pick up a legion go s or rog ally or something

[spark robin]

Z1E is great price to performance

[long panther]

The rog ally that I sold a while ago only costed me 350 dollars

definitely really good value

[haughty hatch]

og go with battery mod

[latent pulsar]

ive just bought a battery modded rog ally z1 extreme for £250

[haughty hatch]

go 2 might be

[versed goblet]

Thats another good deal you have managed to bag 😅 who are these people you get them off

Daylight robbery

[latent pulsar]

magic 😄 fingers crossed it arrives safely etc etc

Ive never owned a rog ally or even z1 extreme device before

[spring isle]

Honestly this is probably the best bang for you buck handheld PC

So many cheap used Allys on the market that you can easily mod with new SSD and larger battery

[latent pulsar]

yeah ive been impressed how the ally used market is. the Ally x is still a bit too high for my liking

[gray wyvern]

OG Ally is underrated and suffered greatly for the stupid SD Card failure issue. It’s a great device even today with just a handful of small flaws

The Go community hated it because it was cheaper and better in every aspect other then the screen size/resolution

[spark robin]

And no detachable controllers.

[worthy edge]

Step 1. Get this e-mail from Lenovo.

Step 2. IMMEDIATELY click the link while fumbling for debit card.

Step 3. Wait for page to load and see that it is not, in fact, in stock.

Step 4. Flip desk in uncontrollable rage.

[plush acorn]

For me it was mostly held back by those sharp corners in the palm area. That said I still owned it for more consecutive months than any other handheld besides the deck

[gray wyvern]

Yeah it’s ergonomics weren’t the greatest but compared to the Claw and Go it was the better of the three 😂

Deck has always been a step ahead but it’s also noticeably wider then the Ally

[gray wyvern]

Most handheld users consider this a positive aspect

[spark robin]

I would never go back to non-detachable. Takes away so many options 😬

[worthy edge]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tax sucks but what can ya do

[long panther]

What is this?\

[worthy edge]

Legion Go 2 controllers

The parts have been going in and out of stock on their website this morning. I posted about it just a little while ago.

[gray wyvern]

It does.

Larger battery size, usable speakers, comfortable grips

[worthy edge]

Better screenshot with part #s for reference if anybody else was waiting like me

[high cypress]

I agree 100%
with Detachable controllers, you can use the handheld as a tablet or play docked mode just like Nintendo Switch

I see this as an absolute advantage

Plus being an actual pc

[worthy edge]

I love being able to set the go on my desk at work with a keyboard and it just looks like another device rather than a gaming system.

[worthy edge]

It updated but I don't see how this delivery date is even remotely possible. It's laughable, really.

[latent pulsar]

something tells me that's slightly incorrect 😄

[spring isle]

Sd failure was a blessing as it tanked in price in the used market and including a large SSD is so easy to do even the 2280 SSD mod

[high cypress]

But hey, of the controller now are in stock, this could mean that all of the faulty controller they provided with the Go 2s could be replaced

From Lenovo themselves

[bitter flicker]

Right. Finally got a 'handheld' after the lego2 price shock.

Dark horse as I was really not considering it, but picking up a OneXPlayer G1 refurb, 64gb of ram, 4tb of storage for 1,300 USD.

Same screen as the lego 1, which is the best thing if you're not on OLED IMO and has a ton of ports to convert to a server when I'm not using it, including an occulink which I may be using for Nvme storage at full speed.

Little concerned about support on this product as OneX doesn't seem great in that area, and I'll need to get Windows Pro on there instead of the home version that is installed. Worried about drivers - if it doesn't work I'll return it, but pretty sure that is going to be a major, major PITA.

[worthy edge]

The LeGo 1 screen is definitely nice...if the G1 comes with that I think you'll be happy.

[gray wyvern]

I mean you do you and maybe you aren’t in the US, but for $50 (US price difference) having OLED and not doing a refurb is way better than a dying Occulink standard and 64GB/4TB

[bitter flicker]

Need the 64gb and the 4tb. Program wants 32GB of ram + at least 8gb of vram if not more, and when out on a shoot I can get over 2tb of video I have to move in under an hour of filming.

Occulink is dying, but it's a billion times cheaper or viable than thunderbolt 5. I can get that 2tb of video full speed via occulink it's only about 60% of that speed with thunderbolt 4 given overheads.

I may also be able to locally process my footage by using the occulink as a base for my 5090 on an Ai workflow while out on the field, but I'm not sure how cool this device is going to be with installing Ubuntu which I need to do that work.

I don't care too much about the nvme drive as I can just replace that, but the RAM is soldered in and when I retire this device it'll be my server for the next x years.

Wanted the Lego2 to do all this but not at 1,350 for 32gb of ram plus 250 to 300 USD for the storage upgrade to 4tb... Anything over 1,100 and it's 'the only purchase I can afford to make in this area for the next 3 to 5 years'

[gray wyvern]

Oh, it’s one of those wrong tool for the purpose type situations

[bitter flicker]

...that and the processor is better for my workflows

[bitter flicker]

The Lego2 would be a perfect server when you're done with it! It's just at that price point, yeah, I have to get a beast to check all the boxes for the work I do. If the lego2 was closer to 1k I'd be far less caring about that sort of thing as I'd be more apt to sell it after 2 years before stepping up to something I would want to use in my workflows

[gray wyvern]

But why not just a laptop at that point?

[bitter flicker]

A laptop will just gather dust when I'm not out at a shoot. So it'll get used at most once every couple of weeks. A handheld I can work into my daily work/play, especially if it has a great screen. I'm all about OLED, but that 1600p resolution is a great consolation prize that may have me pick it up for some streaming right before I go to bed.

[plush acorn]

The drivers for it are made available by onex and should work on any windows version. I wouldn’t be too concerned.

I have had windows 11 pro on my f1 pro before

[bitter flicker]

Sweet / that's great to hear!

Any other tips for getting on board the OneX train? What are your thoughts on them as a company?

[plush acorn]

I’ve only ever bought secondhand and never had to deal with them directly so I don’t have a whole lot to say.

[bitter flicker]

1,300 for a hx 370 with 64gb and 4 tb drive is kind of great IMO. Was / is in a US warehouse so no tarriffs and no taxes but I did have to spend 20 USD for shipping

[plush acorn]

But I have owned 3 variations of the OneXFly/f1 style handheld and haven’t had issues with them

They did have a run with thermal issues and I think they sent out repair kits. Sorta par for the course for these companies, they don’t wanna pay shipping both ways for repairs and will often hope you do the repairs yourself and will just send you parts.

[bitter flicker]

I was looking hard at the OneXFly but I think I could be relying heavily on that occulink and OneXFly was like 2,100 for the same specs - they had a great refurb deal for 1,000 for 32gb of ram and a 1tb ssd... and 32gb could theoretically work but I just dropped the extra $$$ as replacing the ssd to 4tb is still expensive and I'll pay to just never worry about RAM going forward

[plush acorn]

I don’t have a niche use case like yours so 32GB is plenty. I just have the 8840u f1 pro now as I didn’t need more power

[bitter flicker]

Yeah, 32GB is absolutely grand for everyone else IMO.

How do you like your pro? How often do you pick it up?

Instabuy if the screen was larger

[plush acorn]

Yeah it’s great outside of wanting a larger screen sometimes. Probably sell it if the legion go 2 wins me over but idk yet. It’s very comfy for my hands, better than Ally or deck personally.

The software for tdp and fan control is simple and works well.

[bitter flicker]

It has something where you can skip a battery charge too yes? Should come in handy when I convert it to a server

[proper quest]

$200 for the controllers? Jfc, I mean I guess I should've expected this given the price of go 1 controller replacements but still

[worthy edge]

Freakin $20 tax doesn't help either. The prices were gonna be slightly lower according to what I spotted before, but like everything else they got increased.

[gray wyvern]

Equates to $580ish US and the seller has the OG Ally for 899CAD or $650 which matches up with US pricing.

[versed goblet]

Argos have that model showing for £499 in UK. No price yet for Xbox Ally X

[haughty hatch]

hope its 999

[worthy edge]

Holy shit

That first one was off Lenovo's site. FedEx's site says:

So apparently I got next day shipping

[latent pulsar]

oooh

[gray wyvern]

Nice

[worthy edge]

Watch it be a box with 2 bricks in it.

[gray wyvern]

Gonna need a bunch of bricks to have the same weight

[worthy edge]

https://tenor.com/view/truffle-concrete-detroit-become-concrete-gif-25850279

[high cypress]

Please when they arrives verify the sticky triggers / bumpers issue, if Lenovo managed to resolve @worthy edge

[versed goblet]

Go 2 looks like a bargain in comparison 🤣

[manic rune]

Lenovo would love it if that were a real screen shot.

[worthy edge]

I'm not a reviewer, but I will do my best.

[high cypress]

Well, i think it's enough knowing if the issue is resolved or not hahah

[worthy edge]

I just mean I never saw the first versions so I can't compare, but I am happy to tell you if I am okay with it or not!

[high cypress]

Oh i see now, okie let us know
Fyi i'll share you the reddit sub where a user shows the sticky triggers / bumpers issue, so you can have a reference for that

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegionGo/comments/1nm97vd/lenovo_may_have_a_serious_qc_issue_with_legion_go/

[worthy edge]

Thanks for the example. I have a terrible headache but I will try to explain this the best I can.

I held down my right trigger and while holding it down, I pressed the right shoulder button 50 times. It never stuck like in the guy's video, but I kept being paranoid waiting for it to stick, psyching myself out. I haven't even played a game yet, head is killing me, but I knew you sentients wanted info. This isn't much. I can just say "Mine doesn't do that...yet."

[high cypress]

I'd say that if bumpers doesn't stick, you should be fine

[worthy edge]

Hopefully I'll feel better tomorrow and do more with it

[waxen kiln]

That's the start of your new YT channel. First video: I Tested the NEW LeGo 2's Triggers 100k Times! (You won't believe what happened!)

[manic rune]

[starts the video] One .... two ... three .... four ... five ...

[worthy edge]

"Lenovo HATES This One Simple Button Press!"

[mortal plover]

Need to do a live stream and THEN upload to YouTube.

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/very-nice-excellent-yes-meme-nod-gif-17397471

[worthy edge]

Just to make people twitch:

[waxen kiln]

Thanks... I hate it.

[subtle shoal]

I'm itching to play Hades 2 on this thing man

[worthy edge]

This is how I will use it until I wear the right controller out. Then I will have an immediate replacement in stock.

[worthy edge]

Some of us prioritize functionality and comfort...luckily my tism isn't a visual one lol

[manic rune]

Oh, it's real now.

[gray wyvern]

AMD must really be gouging the prices of that SOC

[upper halo]

Yea based on what we saw with the 370

[gray wyvern]

Some battery, some ram, some storage, an SOC - $400 please

[manic rune]

You can preorder the XAX at more than just Best Buy, at least. Not that the price would be any different.

The $600 one (the Deck equivalent) is even on Amazon for preorder. But I don't see why you'd chose it over an OLED Deck, or even a Z2G Legion Go.

[karmic crypt]

They monopolize their latest chips. It's wild

Not even next gen rdna

God wait til those drop

Gonna be asking for 1K for the upgrade

[manic rune]

Hmm ... you can get 50 bucks off either of the new Allys at ASUS's site if you're teacher/military/etc.

Couldn't get any discounts on the Legion Go over here in US because only Best Buy.

[haughty hatch]

are go 2 threatened by xax?

[karmic crypt]

Eh. I can understand getting either

[plush acorn]

Only by people that were never going to get the go 2 imo

[karmic crypt]

Clearly go 2 is top of the line specs

Xbox is $350 cheaper and still going to be a solid system

If MS offers more on top of just the hardware it could be a solid choice

I mean I think both are pretty insanely priced

For what you get at least. Legion go 1 or some of the second hand hx370 devices are probably a more sensible purchase unless you really need the vrr oled. Which is pretty cool

[haughty hatch]

autosr will be enabled next year

so it wont outbeat go 2

[karmic crypt]

I don't think anyone assumes it'll ourbeat the go 2. But it is $350 cheaper for similar performance

[haughty hatch]

https://videocardz.com/newz/onexplayer-onexfly-apex-gaming-handheld-with-amd-ryzen-ai-max-395-strix-halo-apu-announced

might sell go2 soon

[spark robin]

Yeah, Go 2 is old news now. Basically ancient tech. Time to move on.

[haughty hatch]

fomo

[waxen kiln]

A legitimiate talking point at ~2x the performance of the Z2E. My dream handheld has now become the LeGo 2's 8.8" OLED VRR screen + 385/395 🥵

[haughty hatch]

thats ayaneo next 2

with go 2 panel

[karmic crypt]

If it comes with that. Def not confirmed. All we know is it's 8 inches

Personally I'm more interested in rdna 4 handheld chips than the 395. Should be a significant performance bump but not require being plugged into a wall socket to last more than 20 min.

[waxen kiln]

Unfortunately the roadmap looks to be end of 2026 when those will be out. So most likely early 2027 when we actually get them into the mainstream.

OXP (official post on their server) wasting no time throwing shade. Gotta get those LeGo 2 bucks!

[manic rune]

"Battery: 85Wh Battery life: 20 minutes"

I really think that people who are absolutely dead set on the LeGo 2 aren't going to go for an even more expensive device with an IPS screen. Because anyone who says "I gotta have the LeGo 2" is a display whore.

[prisma hedge]

detachable liquid coolinh lol

[prisma hedge]

tbh the sole reason i am still considering an upgrade si the screen 😄 Hoping fr some good openbo deal after xmas

[manic rune]

What does that even mean? One of those thermoelectric cooler plates like you can buy for a phone?

(probably not ... since "liquid", but why would you want detachable cooling)

[prisma hedge]

to cool down the 120W of power before it burst into flames in your hands

[manic rune]

I mean I know why you'd want cooling - I'm merely confused about why you would want to take it off.

[bitter flicker]

On one hand I just spent all my money on the OneXPlayer G1 clam-shell thingie but I'm not getting any FOMO on this new one as it doesn't have OLED apparently and I won't be able to afford it.

I got the G1 at a great deal considering I'm going for 64gb of ram and 4tb of space - hard to find good deals on the top end, but am definately a little spooked on OneXPlayer support as they seem to be the worst of the bunch from what I'm hearing. I'd give the order process with them a B- at this point, to be determined whenever I finally get the unit and how 'refurb' it is.

It's amazing that the Lego2 priced itself out for me, as just being a major brand and having local stores like Best Buy have them in was a major, major win. But at 1,350 I have far bigger boxes to tick for work, and the G1 being 1,300 with a better chip, 2x ram and 4x storage makes me leave the Go2 on the table.

[waxen kiln]

I do think it'll happen eventually (not within your timetable). 2026 looks to be the year of 385/395 mainstream supply finally. Whoever RM used for the Astra would be 👌 even without VRR.

[karmic crypt]

Fuck that. I just want a z3e with rdna4

They can keep the laptop chipset

Sure it'll never hit 395 levels, but I'll the tradeoff for battery life, thermals and weight

[stable kettle]

It will hit those levels. Rdna 3 vs Rnda 5.

At least below 50W tdp 😁

And It'll cost pretty much the same as 395, maybe just a bit less

[stable kettle]

There's no mobile rdna4

[karmic crypt]

Ah. Didn't realize that

[karmic crypt]

You mean no apu right? Cause there are rdna 4 mobile dGPU

[stable kettle]

Yes, no APUs

[stable kettle]

But also, there are no rdna4 mobile dGPUs. rx 9000M is in limbo

Maybe they'll make one, maybe they won't

[karmic crypt]

Ah. I thought the 9080m did come, it was coming

But I guess they just announced and haven't released

[plush acorn]

Are there any z2 (non extreme) benchmarks yet? It's a pain in the ass to search for as I just get z2 extreme or z2 go results.

[manic rune]

Are there any devices that have the Z2 except the low-end Legion Go 2? If not, I guess that's why we're not seeing benchmarks - doesn't seem to be a popular SKU.

[waxen kiln]

Technical sheet has it a mirror copy as the Z1E, right? Aka rebadged.

If you compare the $1000 XAX... For only a $100 more you'd get OLED VRR + others 😉 (minus 10-15% perf at ~18W).

Interesting that Z1E shows lower W limit

[upper halo]

Isn't the Z2 just the Z1E

the Z2 line is all over the place

just a way for AMD to sell off old stock at new tech prices

[waxen kiln]

AMD really trying to capitalize on lower yields. YOU get a product SKU. YOU get a product SKU.

[plush acorn]

Theoretically. I'm interested to see if it has any efficiency gains or it's literally the exact same.

I'm still considering ordering the non-extreme instead. Bummer that it's only 16gb vram but probably won'tmatter much for most of my use case. Maybe I should buy both and do a shootout, return the loser.

[prisma hedge]

tbh i want to upgrade mainly for VRR oled

so powerwise rabdged z1e could be enough

[karmic crypt]

vrr oled is mad sexy

[bitter flicker]

I would have completely dismissed the 'AI' version of the Z2E, but I am very curious as to see how ROG and the Ally X employ it for their upscaling tech. Very curious.

And honestly, having just purchased a hx-370 I feel like I'm sitting pretty - packs more punch than the Z2E on non-gaming scenarios, and as good or slightly better AI performance than that AI Z2E (though without that propriatary ROG upscaling who cares).

I mean nothing really else on the horizon until 2027, right? So it's Z2E, 370, and 395+ as medium level, medium plus level, should-be-classified-as-a-desktop-level chips from here until 2027, right? Good time to invest IMO if correct. I'd go for 395+ if I could afford it as I rarely need to go battery only and can't think of more than a few times I've been caught without a power-brick on hand.

[waxen kiln]

Correct. HX400/Panther Lake is probably second half of 2026 for mass adoption like how HX 370s. There won't be a true 395 successor until 2027 and will probably see the same limited availability like this year was.

[versed goblet]

Was looking at cases and this made me rofl

[plush acorn]

Legion go 2 mini?

[versed goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/officer-doofy-salute-doofy-gilmore-scary-movie-gif-15092022832635353292

[karmic crypt]

Lol

The good news of this is getting Lego 1 for dirt cheap

Just got an open box excellent at Best buy for $410

[latent pulsar]

oooh nice pickup ❤️ legion go 1 did look really nice

[karmic crypt]

Yeah. I've always wanted to try one and compare it to the deck

Just for the bigger screen and joycon experience

Probably a good way to figure out if I want to eventually drop Lego 2 money

[latent pulsar]

that joycon/tablet versatility did tempt me

[manic rune]

Its a pretty versatile device. My Go 1 is sitting on my desk being a computer. Just looks like a small second monitor rather than a game console.

[prisma hedge]

tbh i am getting constantly mine Go tablet stolen ... caause my gf uses it as "a work tablet" aka ||to play balatro and Civ at work|| 😄

[karmic crypt]

I wish my so was obsessed so I could steal her stuff instead of her taking mine

[stark ginkgo]

THAT BOY IS HUGE

[manic rune]

A Legion Go for ants?

[karmic crypt]

Dude. His index fingers are something else

[versed goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegionGo/s/wSW8yXQIQp another go 2 review

[plush acorn]

Ugh still almost 5 more weeks

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[versed goblet]

Still 10th for us 😅 but i am not holding my breath. I’m expecting further delays

Seriously what is with these AliE pictures 😅🤣 all the accessory ads are like this. Not filling me with confidence that any of this stuff will fit

[waxen kiln]

LeGo 2 Mini. Sign me up!

[manic rune]

Typical Chinese photoshop job. Amazon is also rife with these. And as someone who gets some of this stuff for review through Amazon, a lot of the time these DON'T fit.

[mortal plover]

I wish there was a way to just go through all of these photo types. They crack me up on Amazon.

[karmic crypt]

There's gotta be some bangers. Could def do a reel

[fossil cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[plush acorn]

lego 2 has showed up on US lenovo site... with a shipping date suspiciously sooner than best buy

[versed goblet]

Oooo same as UK

Mine still showing as 10th

Can you utilise any offers on Lenovo site? Like 10% email sign up

[plush acorn]

Couldn’t figure out anything that worked.

Not an active student anymore and it wanted proof uploaded

Keeping my Z2E Best Buy order for now, but put an order in for a Z2 from Lenovo. That way I can test and benchmark the Z2, maybe return it and keep the Z2E.. or if the Z2 is enough I can cancel the Z2E order with best buy and not pick it up.

[subtle shoal]

Just ordered mine thru US Lenovo site, will report back when it arrives

[plush acorn]

Z2 or z2e?

[subtle shoal]

Z2E

Saw the Z2 pop up, closed my tab, 20 mins later coworker said hey go refresh, saw Z2E pop up. Hit add to cart

[plush acorn]

Yeah. It's a bit more than BB because its the 2tb model

[rose pier]

Man and we still have 0 news about Mexico

[manic rune]

Teachers and first responders, etc. get what looks to be 10% off.

SubTotal $1,479.99
Teacher Savings -$148.00

Estimated total:

Tax calculated at checkout
$1,331.99

So I can get the 2TB version slightly cheaper than the 1TB version ($1,349.99) by ordering it direct from Lenovo.

And (theoretically) get it sooner.

Jesus ... Lenovo's site is REALLY PICKY about mailing addresses.

So I'm cancelling my Best Buy preorder because why pay more money for the same thing but with a smaller SSD?

[plush acorn]

I already ahve a 2tb waiting to be put in so not a big deal, but yeah

I am adjacent to some of the people that can get discounts lol, but not quite.

[manic rune]

They actually have a lot of categories ... I'm lucky that university prof still falls under the "teacher" category because I just can't do K-12 ... not even for cheaper Legion Gos (I did K-12 once ... never again).

[versed goblet]

Do you guys have same option to config the ssd down to 512gb?

With workplace discount on top makes it pretty reasonable. Then shove own ssd inside

UK has no legion go’s at all on Lenovo site at the moment. Not even Go S’

[plush acorn]

Don’t think so

[versed goblet]

Ahhh was well hidden for us. Wasn’t until checkout screen it allowed config to change ssd pretty much

Don’t think its a sku they really want to advertise

I also picked up one of these high speed flat-ish usb c drives for when go 2 arrives

For extra storage

[grizzled trail]

Ooh that looks nice!

[versed goblet]

If interested
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGQTN0E

[grizzled trail]

Happy for you 😡 nice

[haughty hatch]

another one will come next two day

[grizzled trail]

Dual-wielding Legion Go 2s

[haughty hatch]

1 is not enough

[spark robin]

It's called the legion go 2 for a reason.

You need 2 of them or you are not a real gamer.

[manic rune]

No options. Just had two choices - Z2/16GB/1TB or Z2E/32GB/2TB.

Apparently the Z2E has disappeared now.

[versed goblet]

Ah crazy. But glad you got your orders in. Now you have to fill that 2TB 🤣

[manic rune]

Samsung also makes small high speed usb-c stuff: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D6WLY8KG

(I've had a 256GB version of this one for a while ... quick and has been reliable)

[versed goblet]

Nice! The above i am using are made for like iphones and tesla’s 😅 but work well as flat-ish usb c drives for handhelds. I use a 256gb one for when I setup a new android handheld

[versed goblet]

Those colours do pop

[mortal plover]

those grips look comfy

[haughty hatch]

xbox ?

[karmic crypt]

Yeah. I have one ordered. Will hold for a couple days and probably return

When my phone is 6.8 inches just kinda feels like a side grade to go 7

[haughty hatch]

msi claw 8ai is miles better

than xbox ally

[mortal plover]

yeah, i never got teh hate for the xbox ally x, looks comfortable

[karmic crypt]

Yeah. I'll give it a shot for sure. Thankfully best buy returns got my back

Hopefully Lego 2 comes in stock at bb as well

[mortal plover]

I'd hold out for the Lego 2 for that screen size and OLED goodness, 7 inch is hard to go back to after using a 8 inch screen handheld

[karmic crypt]

Yeah. I really think 8" is the sweet spot. Just got an open box order in for go s z1e. So gonna pick that up today and see how it is. But Lego 1 was a little big, everything else that's 7 a little small

[versed goblet]

https://youtu.be/M0Sb4GmO-0c?si=qk9pxuriGULrUC82

[grizzled trail]

Wonder if it's a beast

[versed goblet]

@north flax will be happy they added a toggle to disable trackpad. I think that was one of his gripes with the CES unit

That will be good for palms touching it

[plush acorn]

I think a US embargo just ended so we should see more vids now

[versed goblet]

Looking forward to your thoughts

[plush acorn]

I might pick up a lego 1... so i can be insane and do 4 way videos... lego 2 z2, lego 2 z2e, lego s z1e, and original legion go. I could probably do without the OG legion go since my go s is also z1e, but some people might wanna see the direct comparison so idk.

[bitter flicker]

I just got the OneXPlayer G1 clamshell delivered about 15 minutes ago; dear god I forgot how friggin' awesome the Lego1 screen is. Best IPS panel on the market IMO.

[versed goblet]

That will be quite the epic video 😄

Or videos

[bitter flicker]

I've been pacing back and forth since ordering it because I've been thinking it may not be worth it and to just wait for a better product (Lego2 is out as I need more RAM I think). If it's not a perfect fit for what I need it'll have to go back and I'm already a bit anxious about OneXPlayer's return and support in general.

...

But first glance and hold it's far better than I thought, and yeah, that lego1 screen is awesome. I want that extra resolution for work.

The question is 'will this work in Ubuntu with an eGPU' - need to figure that out before the 7 day return window ends.

[mortal plover]

Feel each of these handhelds that can easily be picked up from a retail store are missing something. Whether it's screen size or amount of ram.

[bitter flicker]

...and looking at the 8.8 screen next to a 7 inch screen I'm reminded that at least at my age, it's a minimum 8 " screen on anything I purchase. My eyes can't handle 7 inches or less. Going to sell my Retroid flip 2 as I can't read shit on that.

[mortal plover]

Feel something like the MSI Claw 8 AI or AOKZOE A1X are better picks but that comes with the inability to receive them in a day or two and even worse return policies.

[bitter flicker]

There is a lot to be said about picking up kit at a retail store though, that was a major thing going for the Lego2 IMO.

[bitter flicker]

Claw 8 Ai is off of best buy though in the US, right?

[mortal plover]

I've always seen the site report it as sold out

[mortal plover]

Lego 2 would be my top choice from picking something up at best buy or Amazon

[plush acorn]

You can maybe get a claw 8 on amazon, at least that return is easier than something to china

I think bhphotovideo has them sometimes also

[bitter flicker]

BB it says 'Drops: Limited release' Drops on Oct 7th

[plush acorn]

Idk, claw stock has been miserable since release

it comes in and out of stock all the time

[bitter flicker]

I do wonder if I could get my kit working with that Claw and an external GPU. It's got Thunderbolt 4 and I could take my 5090 out of my machine to do some local processing for move.ai which uses a transformer AI model. A.k.a. the bandwidth choke on Thunderbolt 4 may not be an issue given I need to run a transformer model on the card while games would be rather choked (right? anyone weigh in on Ai loads on external GPU?).

For the GP1 I'll be testing the eGPU on both the oculink and USB4 ports but am rather concerned I can't get it working in Ubuntu which I'm more confident the claw could handle.

[grizzled trail]

Oh man, i don't wanna watch the new review videos, i'm gonna end up regretting my cancellation so bad

[mortal plover]

Got my claw for retail MSRP off of the Walmart app, so yeah it's possible still.

[bitter flicker]

How you liking it?

[mortal plover]

the sandstorm color took time to grow on me, but ergonomics are awesome. Weird using an Intel chipset but the driver support has been reassuring, plus I'm fine sticking with Windows. But my fav thing about is the low fan noise.

[grizzled trail]

YouTube search sucks

[mortal plover]

I do fall asleep to video game essays videos, feels good man.

[grizzled trail]

I ain't tryina relax, I'm tryina wallow in FOMO!

[grizzled trail]

Same! Need some kinda noise to focus on, lest the internal thoughts manifest

[versed goblet]

All gone now

Even Go S

No Go’s on Uk site at all

[grizzled trail]

I wonder if they'd have just cancelled my order anyway

Is yours still on?

[versed goblet]

Yep 10th

So not long now

[grizzled trail]

I shoulda kept mine...

Then again I haven't spent ~£900 so that's good

[versed goblet]

https://youtu.be/qvEwxA87Scc?si=Pl02yP9KoJTYy5-H

1hr 30 min review 😄😅

[versed goblet]

Still available via very i think actually no its not

[grizzled trail]

I don't think I'd get the 10% work discount at Very anyway

I think I'll look into buying one in the new year

[versed goblet]

Keep an eye on currys ebay store. I got a grade c switch 2 from them recently, it was brand new. Only the box was bad

Might be open box by then

[grizzled trail]

Nice! I got a 5080 from them earlier in the year when they were hard to get, it was from one of their pre-builts that they'd dropped or something, and slightly damaged the pcie connecter. Was a good price for the time, and was able to use one of those max £75 off vouchers ebay do sometimes too

Terrible deal now that prices have normalised tho lol, FOMO really is a bitch

[spark robin]

I got me legion go from there. 1 year warranty and dirt cheap

[versed goblet]

Yeah. Its one of the only ebay stores i would buy from to be fair. Pretty good deals to be found.

[spark robin]

Same. 1 year warranty, easy returns, reputable brand, great prices.

Got my Lego for £450 when it was still £700 new. Great times

Sold my Next Lite, and only had to add £50 to get the legion go.

I liked the Next Lite, but it's not as good

[versed goblet]

Nice. I liked next lite too. But my fan was too close to case. So when I pushed it. I would get an annoying rattle 😅

[manic rune]

I ain't watching no one's review of the LeGo 2 before I make my own. I have like, my own opinions, man. 🙃

[plush acorn]

It's missing from the US site again, and a couple people on reddit reporting their ship date pushed back

also the site now shows 10/31

So... at this point I'm expecting my direct order won't come the 9th-13th as it currently says.

Is this a lie? We'll see soon...

[manic rune]

You know, if it comes the 31st I'll be happy because I got it cheaper than Best Buy, which was also going to come the 31st.

[plush acorn]

oh dang, the claw 8 is 1149 now?

Guess the Go 2 isn't so bad after all lol

[plush acorn]

Ah, well I didn't get it any cheaper (besides it being the lower model, that is). So probably still be picking up the z2e from BB on the 31st

[manic rune]

Mine still says "Est Delivery : Get it between Thu. Oct 09 - Mon. Oct 13" as well.

[mortal plover]

What a time we live in where the longer an electronic is out and available the price continues to go up.

[jovial shell]

Picked one up too. Wasn't gonna but the price in Canada was better than expected.

[torn wigeon]

does it feel strange in your hand

im only used to the more standard handheld shape idk how quickly i could adapt but one of my biggest issues with the legion (besides the heat battery life and bad performance) was that certain basic functions were made 10x harder without a keyboard available

[karmic crypt]

I liked the G1 I had. Played several keyboard dependent PC games on it

[torn wigeon]

see thats what im thinking about right there

a lot of games need or work MUCH better with a keyboard

but that msi claw has that wonderful power efficiency and a equally strong chip

very conflicted here...a keyboard opens me up to more options but i want that game console fel

[plush acorn]

Can’t just use a compact BT keeb with legion?

[torn wigeon]

.

well

hm.

shit thats a good point...

[karmic crypt]

That's what I'm using now. Not really compact. Heh. I went with the Thinkpad one so I can use the nub when I don't have a mouse

[plush acorn]

I use a Logitech k380 for handhelds when I need key input

It’s slim so easily fits in a bag

[karmic crypt]

I think some of the tablets like the x1 or 3d one coming with an attachable keyboard are interesting too

[torn wigeon]

well the hardest part of all of this is finding someone who DOESNT want their msi claw 8

[plush acorn]

I mean a laptop is better if your primary thing is keyboard games obviously. But the legion go gives you a bit of both I guess if you need that

[torn wigeon]

most of the owners ive spoken to have been CLAIMED by that damn thing

[plush acorn]

It’s also gone up in price

[torn wigeon]

nah literally just roblox that really needs that keyboard occasionally

[plush acorn]

I owned one briefly. Shoulda held on to it and it would have appreciated in value lol

[manic rune]

I mean ... this is a handheld discord so we kinda like handhelds here. 🙃

[karmic crypt]

Honestly a device going up in price after you bought it cheaper holds a lot of sway too 😆

Your brain is like, I'd be dumb to get rid of it now

[torn wigeon]

every other device has a good couple units on sale but those claw 8's man... mythical

hopefully the win 5 and oxp apex hype brings a few my way

[manic rune]

I really think that after the ah ... issues ... with the original Claw that they just didn't make very many of the 8s.

[karmic crypt]

I had a win max 2. Keyboard was the best I've used on anything compact. Controls solid too. But it's on the bigger side

G1 touch keyboard and keyboard insert were pretty awesome tho

[torn wigeon]

ive always been one to appreciate gimmicks

main reason i got the legion go over the ally x (which i regret for other reasons)

[manic rune]

I'd vouch for the K380. Usually used that in class when I taught with my tablet PC for occasional keyboard input. Small but still actually usable.

[torn wigeon]

do NOT put expensive ssds in that bih if you game for extended periods of time

[plush acorn]

You fried an nVME in the legion go?

[torn wigeon]

6 hr ghost of tsuhima marathon fried the one microcenter put in there

the 2 tb one that was prone to failures anyway

[plush acorn]

Oh didn’t those micro center one have failure issues

[torn wigeon]

yeah

[plush acorn]

Ah beat me to it

[torn wigeon]

this new one did just fine when i left it overnight running a game tho

[plush acorn]

I never had issues in any of my prior legion gos (yes I’ve owed it 3 times now lmao)

Granted I don’t usually push tdp a lot

[bitter flicker]

It’s not that bad to hold and the controls feel good ; but dude this is the strangest device o have ever used - it does so many things right and so many things wrong I have no idea what to think of it.

Fans for example are super quality, very quiet, top notch. Until you put it down on a table and it blocks the air flow. How TF do you design a mini laptop that you can hold in your hand but not put on a fuckin table to type

[bitter flicker]

I will never touch Inland again - had 6 tb of Inland nVMme on my main rig and they all failed in a way that took me over a year to figure it out. Crystalmark was showing all green but actual performance was about 1/20th in actuality. What I think happened is that the dram or cache bits failed even though the drive worked. Didnt lose data but still lostthousands of hours of progress.

[torn wigeon]

My first ever laptop had that issue i couldnt even sit it down on a stone table lol

Acer nitro 5...

I miss that thing

My stupid ass took metal tweasers and tried to unbend a bent usb pin while it was on...i fried it

But what other cons would you like to note for someone considering this for away from home gaming

[bitter flicker]

I'm honestly not sure yet if I hate this device or love it. I think it's the latter but dear god does this thing have glaring flaws, I'm super interested if they make a G2 and address it.

When I'm done with it, I don't think I'm selling it, it'll just become my new server and replace the 9 year piece of shit that weighs 70 pounds in a closet upstairs. For that, I think it'll be perfect, got the screen in there, USB4 for 10gbe, oculink for 4x4 pcie storage (I may use the eGPU when it's not a server), plenty of ports, etc. That OneXPlayer on this device (and maybe others) allows for a power pass through that doesn't hit the battery is actually one of the biggest selling points for me on the server side

[bitter flicker]

The jury is still out with me on it. I'm definately concerned about OneXPlayer support, and their return window is pure ass at 7 days, but the machine is working just fine and is well engineered. Still, can I boot it to Ubuntu? Will it work with an eGPU in Ubuntu? I've got to get my workflow installed on Windows first which takes days, and then find the time to do all the Ubuntu testing before I know if I'm returning it or not. 7 days return window for something this expensive is bullshit IMO

But I'd look at their refurbished deals. This came in over 300 USD cheaper than new and it's basically new. No tax either on the refurbished as they are in US warehouses already

I have an allergy to plastic (it's stupid, trust me), so I have to put medical grade paper tape on bits I touch all the time, which is why the joysticks look like ass.

I'll tell you that Lego1 screen is just the best thing sans OLED. Wonderful screen. But goddamn the minimum brightness is still over 100 nits

Holding it for gaming is heavy, but not so much so that I won't use it. Definately the weirdest device I'll ever own if I end up keeping it, has a ton of character

[torn wigeon]

Are the sunken in joysticks kinda mushy like those cheap retro controllers that scrape the sides

[bitter flicker]

Not really, first touch I was like 'ew', but after playing a round of Hades 2 I was like 'feels good'. Much better than my Retroid flip 2

Definately limited range but I think they're done well enough it's a fully acceptable compromise

[torn wigeon]

Hard to choose between this hybrid or just getting a regular handheld with a portable keyboard...the cool factor tho

And this device is so uncommon that i cant go to any stores to feel it in my hand

Ima go look at more reviews of the ergonomics

I already know the specs will be elite for any game

[spring isle]

Yes i really wish I can try these handhelds somewhere in the UK

[spark robin]

You will in Currys eventually.

How the fuck is that the only Currys gif?

[grizzled trail]

I like that font on the old Currys logo tho

Cooper black i believe it's called

[spark robin]

No hate on the old logo.

It's just, of all the products they have sold over the years, the spectrum is the only one that got a gif

People loved the speccy I guess.

[grizzled trail]

Lol yeah, i tried searching for currys black, currys pc world, currys computer, currys shop - that's the only one!!

Just a load of curries and some sports people who presumably have the surname curry

Kidna want a curry now...

[spark robin]

Same. Already have the beer to go with it

[bitter flicker]

Just tucking into a pint myself

And a joint

Two joints

...and like 8 pints

[grizzled trail]

Jealous. I've been completely sober for over three years. It sucks lol

[bitter flicker]

I'm a heavy drinker but I dodged the alcoholism bullet thank god - I only go nuts a few times a month.

Weed on the other hand is another story, I've relapsed on that and it's becoming clearer (but not set in stone yet) I may have to cut it out all together as I can't control it. Shit is not your parent's weed. Or your weed when you were growing up. Shit is potent AF.

But on the drinking end, I'm pushing 50 in a few years, and my body does not tolerate hangovers anymore

[bitter flicker]

Anyways, being sober is fucking hard and 3 years is a ton. Utmost respect my friend, that makes you kind of automatically awesome in my book.

[grizzled trail]

Oh thanks for the kind words man

Weed was my thing yeah, all day every day for like 10 years, I love it. But it was fuckin my brain up.

Booze, the thing with that is, any regret I have in life, it's always something I did/said when I was drunk

I wanted to give up booze for ages but thought yknow, how do you even socialise in England without drinking

But 3 years ago I wanted to lose weight and went on that keto diet, proper low carb. Well, that rules out beer, and i didn't wanna get any munchies from bud, so yeah just went totally sober

[bitter flicker]

Right there with you brother. Yeah. I was dry for 9 months but the dispenseries in the US these days are NOT healthy if you're trying to quit. They do these sales where it's 60 dollars for an ounce of weed. 60 bucks for an ounce! Of like very high grade stuff. I'm always back on the smoke because of those damned deals, I'd buy cat-litter if it was on sale enough and I don't have a cat.

[grizzled trail]

Oh man yeah if it was legal here I would have given into temptation ages ago

Woulda been too easy to just go buy some

[bitter flicker]

Yeah I lived in Ireland for a bit and hung out in your area a lot (love the UK), it's definately in the culture no doubt.. I miss it.

[grizzled trail]

I just properly read what you said. 60 dollars for an oz is insane lol wtf

[bitter flicker]

Used to smoke a fuck-ton of ciggerettes, heavy drinker, had a klonipin prescription for a minor health thing I was on for 20 years and getting off that SUCKED, etc. etc. but quitting weed has been the hardest thing I've done.

And yeah, I hate to admit it, because legalizing weed is important/good IMO, but it does not help those that have a dependency on it. And like I said, the strains these days they sell, you'll get a dependency on it.

[bitter flicker]

Right? 6 years ago that same brand and same amount was 300 dollars easy.

Those sales literally bring me back from being sober on it for 9 plus months

[bitter flicker]

So yeah, this OneXPlayer G1 is crazy weird and I think I love it. But the minimum brightness being so gosh darn bright is becoming one of the worst knocks I can put on what is the otherwise GOAT of an IPS panel, a.k.a. the same panel found in the lego1.

Did the lego1 have this minimum brightness issue? I had the lego1 for a month or so but had to return it because 16GB couldn't run my work related stuff at all. I mean I remember the lego1 screen being bright but this G1 screen at minimum brightness is eye-searing in a pitch black room.

[fossil cloud]

My $100k+ masters degree is finally paying off! 😅

[versed goblet]

Just got my UPS shipping notification

No email from Lenovo yet

Does say sender Lenovo on UPS email

Go 2 is only thing I have on order with them 😅 so must be on way now

[versed goblet]

Saying delivery Monday 💪

[grizzled trail]

Nice!!

[jovial shell]

My delivery got bumped from the 15th to the 20th

[versed goblet]

Boom!

Email finally came through

[worthy edge]

Hope you sentients enjoy it. I can definitively say the grip is waaay more comfy and dpad is waaay better

[high cypress]

DPad is way better than Lego 1

[worthy edge]

I've been using my LeGo 2 left controller on my LeGo 1 since I got it, with no regerts

[high cypress]

I feel the Ergonomics in general are better

For the Go 2

[karmic crypt]

Just one? 😆

[worthy edge]

I didn't have as much of an issue with the right controller, so I am wearing it out before swapping the new one in

[karmic crypt]

Man. That'd just melt my brain. But props for getting the longevity

[worthy edge]

I knew it would trigger people but it doesn't bother me lol

[waxen kiln]

Once again, he triggers my OCD. Each time this image is going to be re-saved and resolution lowered.

[karmic crypt]

Looks worse when you throw it on Lego 1. But it almost makes me more ok with doing that since it still sticks out on Lego 2 😆

Oh wait. That is Lego 1. Oh well

Wonder if you could just sand down the corners

Like if it was rounded it'd be less of an issue

[worthy edge]

It's not an issue at all! lol

[karmic crypt]

It's just aesthetic

But I get it

[worthy edge]

It works great

[versed goblet]

Hmmm still no movement from China. I will be shocked if I get my LeGo 2 tomorrow 🧐

[versed goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegionGo/s/sO8KptuArF

🤔 interesting it ships set to 2gb

https://youtu.be/9fm1TwxR_WE?si=ufFk-7nEKi0aF27z

[proper quest]

Did we though?

This has been in the pipeline for well over a year, this had little to nothing to do with customer feedback

[haughty hatch]

no we ask for ai 395

[karmic crypt]

Being rusty must be exhausting

Like just on a daily basis

[karmic crypt]

I dunno. Think a lot of people wanted a large OLED

[haughty hatch]

we need more people like me

[karmic crypt]

People who bash almost every handheld and fail to understand the market?

[versed goblet]

Not too many bad points

[karmic crypt]

It's a banger. Price sucks. But it sucks everywhere

Going with 395 would have been so astronomical. And def not the target audience for Lenovo

[versed goblet]

https://youtu.be/FVtwDOdmFNI?si=uqG6HZonF_PPzzuz

[karmic crypt]

About what was expected right?

[versed goblet]

Yeah tbh i think most people buying this know what they want it for and what its limitations are

That screen tho 🫠

[karmic crypt]

Eh. I'd say half might not. Lenovo is way more of a normie facing company

There might be demo units in best buys after all

It's why going with 395 would be dumb

Nobody would look at the 2K+ price in best buy and impulse buy

[versed goblet]

I don’t know some people on this discord might 😅🤣

But i agree

[karmic crypt]

Thing is there will be 395 for less

[versed goblet]

I think the xbox ally x will sell more overall. But for me personally. I love form factor and screen. So this wins

[karmic crypt]

Take a 395 and then throw on detachable controllers, large oled, etc. and even at the production quantity Lenovo could do, they'd still struggle to compete with boutique manus who go with smaller screens, IPS, and integrated controls

Like we're insane here. But we're also performance addicts

If it's $400 less I'll take an 8" IPS over a 8.8" OLED if it has the same performance

That said Lego 2 is a good price

Compared to the xax it at least makes sense, the price difference

[proper quest]

Think I would've preferred a $2000 strix halo legion go 2 ngl

[karmic crypt]

I'd argue with z2e the performance motivator is less of a thing

But they both offer somewhat unique experiences

[karmic crypt]

Which is fine. But not really Lenovo's market

At least not with these

Maybe one day if handhelds become like laptops and each major Manu is putting out 3 tiers of models at a time

[proper quest]

It's just with the current price it makes more sense to me to go all the way and get better performance, GPD win 5 for only around $200 more just seems like a better deal tbh

[karmic crypt]

If anything I'd see Lenovo taking something like the go s she'll and putting strix halo in

[karmic crypt]

But the Lego was never about just performance. You're paying for joycons, 8.8" screen, fps mouse mode, etc.

Like if you want performance in the same category, an xax is $350 cheaper

[proper quest]

The detachable controllers were a cool idea and part of what originally motivated me to buy the first one, but they feel half baked

[karmic crypt]

Maybe not as well integrated as switch. But not bad.

I love the kickstand too

But 1350 appeals to a much larger audience. Taking it to 1800+ cuts their sales into like 1/4 probably

And that's hard to do with a multi-sku product

Like each handheld is technically 3 skus

Like I said. Take the go s body. Throw in strix halo, and you'd probably bring it more in line with other strix halo products

Sell that to enthusiasts. And now your covering your bases

Leave the 3 sku large oled strix halo handhelds to boutique manus who do batch production with 6+ month preorder windows

[haughty hatch]

what i love about go 2 is customization

[karmic crypt]

Skins?

[versed goblet]

It probs wont be long before we see pop skins for Go 2

Expecting a gundam go 2 at some point 😅😄

[haughty hatch]

printed my own

[jovial shell]

They're closed 1-8th

So earliest we'll see anything from any of these companies is the 9th to my understanding, unless Lenovo works holidays.

[versed goblet]

Good point 🧐

[jovial shell]

Almost the 6th in Shenzhen though. Holiday will be up soon.

[karmic crypt]

Yeah. Skins pretty universal for major manus

There will be tons

[haughty hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfQoNWGbL4

no need to sideload

[neon rune]

Having just watched z1e vs z2e (eta prime), the difference doesn't seem very big? Seems a better deal to get a z1e device and save 400£

[karmic crypt]

Shit. Here it's like $900

Basically 3x the price

For 15% performance

[prisma hedge]

here is kinda fine

surprisingly

thx to dollar being so down compatred to when lego1 released

[grizzled trail]

You're paying for the screen here really rather than performance

[karmic crypt]

Even then comparing screens the Lego1 ain't that bad. One of the best IPS on the market

If anything I'd say the main upgrade is ergos

[long panther]

if they stuck with the go 1 screen how much cheaper could this thing have been?

[karmic crypt]

Like I get what russ meant. It's all very incremental

[karmic crypt]

Probably not that much. It's not like Lenovo didn't have it made to then throw in 8 other devices

3x price for incremental is rough

[long panther]

you can just get the new controllers for your go 1 then 🤷‍♂️

[karmic crypt]

Yeah. Plan to. I'm not like arguing against it. I just get where he's coming from

[long panther]

the new problem is.. what are u gonna do with the old ones?

I'm not sure many go 1 owners are loosing their controllers so there's not a huge market for it

[proper quest]

Probably would've been close to $1k

[karmic crypt]

Maybe 395 would have been the right move. Then you'd be paying 5x the price. But at least getting 2+x the performance

Nah. Fuck that. Oled is not $350

That's silly

[proper quest]

It's close lmao

Compare the Go 1 to the z2 go 2

[karmic crypt]

So 50% of the astra cost is oled

Cmon

Don't be silly. Look at Odin 3

There's def a markup due to world economics that's probably more impactful than any components

Thankfully Lego 1 can be found for good prices cause it came before the chaos

[proper quest]

The go 2 isn't the only handheld that's gone up in price due to tariffs, both the go 1 and the rog ally went up

[karmic crypt]

Yeah. For sure but bb still be having sweet sales

Plus open box

Not to mention second hand

Etc

[proper quest]

I dont think oled is worth $350 extra but that seems to be the going rate for lenovo 🤷‍♂️ I mean I'm not really sure what else would add that much to the cost compared to the Go 1, larger batteries are pretty cheap and the controllers are using a similar mechanism to the Go 1.

[grizzled trail]

It's not just the OLED, it's the VRR window starting at 30hz, that's way lower than the normal 48hz of most OLED panels

[karmic crypt]

AMD also gutting manus most likely

[karmic crypt]

True. But like fps lock and you're fine

[long panther]

yeah I wouldn't pay extra for that 30hz window

[karmic crypt]

Sad if can't go lower. Where's my 10hz at

I mean the fact MS couldn't subsidize the xax is clearly a sign of the times. Everyone pinching. Sure they'll still report record profits tho if people keep buying stuff

Just saying at some point smacking the dog on the nose isn't a bad thing. Glad Russ didn't just glaze it

Besides that for those who can afford it, I'm sure it'll be an awesome device. Especially if your not just upgrading from a z1e

[long panther]

Would yall integerscale to 600p on this thing to be able to to play some demanding games at 60fps? instead of like 30?

[stark ginkgo]

600p is too low imo

Which is why I was gutted to see the downgrade from 1600p to 1200p

Integer scaling 800p would actually let you match the deck res but with much better frame rates

[long panther]

yeah agreed

ps vita only gets away with 540p because it's so small

on an 8.8 inch screen it's just not gonna cut it