Anbernic RG406V

[oak nimbus]

Hate the color scheme

[hallow portal]

Takes requests and everything, people's champion.

[whole vale]

whaaaaaaaaaaat

[rich coral]

the mock up is really nice, good dpad and matching the wii / wii u aesthetic

[lavish pelican]

He liked niluanxy (@KTR) for a while, but that didn't last long before they broke up.

[whole vale]

with nil it devolved to banter, with lao it legitimately looks like he wants to make him homeless lmao

[oak nimbus]

Can't remember the last time I hated an Anbernic color scheme so much

[last goblet]

I think it's to show off the RGB lights

[oak nimbus]

Well, I dislike most of their trans colors, but I just ignore them

Then again, Max never had the best camera on his phone, so maybe it shows the colors wrong

[frail ermine]

max saw the kendrick/drake beef and got inspired to ascend to higher levels of hater

[hallow portal]

May we witness machine translated diss tracks someday

[rich coral]

at this point we are making shit up

[oak nimbus]

I mean, this may sound like Max wants to make Zhang his bitch, but if I remember correctly, PG sounds like "ass" in Chinese

Who can forget this marvel of Google Translate though

[last goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-hate-hate-yeah-gif-9990438

[sharp bloom]

well then

they seem to have a fascination with ass holes

anyway

t820 on a 1:1? Don't know how to feel about that

[oak nimbus]

We'll see how hot it runs

Also this, but I'd take this with a metric ton of salt for now

[rich coral]

at this point I dont wanna pre order or instant buy both the unicorn and cube

[ripe oyster]

This is literally random rumors and speculation

[oak nimbus]

I guess this is actively cooled for sure

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, pretty much

[unborn sierra]

i thing at this point threy are specifically trolling me 😄

[hallow portal]

Why is Zhou so hellbent on not showing the edges

Teasing bastard

[oak nimbus]

Please not the six buttons

[rich coral]

to be fair this thing makes more sense then the rg35xx 2024 edition

anbernic will release anything at this point

[unborn sierra]

anything but 406

[frail ermine]

we still havent seen the buttons right... what if its gc layout? its called the cube after all...

[unborn sierra]

oooh

that could be cool potentially

[rich coral]

Are you sure? Then what is this?

[whole vale]

Just realized I'm not seeing a front firing speaker. Between this and the Unicorn's d-pad sitting higher up, I'm thinking I'm back on Team Unicorn.

[rich coral]

@whole vale will take any responsibility for this screenshot*

[whole vale]

Just worried about price/QC/software at this point

[fair leaf]

T820 for this seems fuckin overkill ngl but i do like the purple metallic color

[unborn sierra]

i am currently still team #rgb30

[fair leaf]

can we call this the rg doohicky because playing like god of war on this is gonna look so silly

[rich coral]

rgb30 will get gamma core soon too

[sturdy crater]

Nice

[quaint furnace]

Max Zhou to everyone else right now: https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxqb4BVk5t_82aYkpiJCVqzfB6h2wJEwKo?feature=shared

[sharp bloom]

eating Miyoo's lunch really made them euphoric huh

[hearty nebula]

Welp this may be the one for me

Top d pad would be nice but if the ergonomics are okay on this one then on bottom isn’t the end of the world

[last goblet]

So Zhou is K-dot. I can see that.

[quick fiber]

Lmaooo stop

[quick ocean]

I'd be annoyed if that was their chosen design for a new 4:3, no excuse to not increase the button sizes with all that room

[sharp bloom]

it's guaranteed photoshop by some random guy not related to Anbernic

they do this thing where they cook some photoshopped thing to go along with a rumour or a leak

[plain igloo]

so we've seen the left side of the rg cube, the screen of the rgb cube, but no back or right?

[iron oriole]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/Tu2VA2GsyD

Was this shared?

[rich coral]

#1214317939163926548 message

yeah buts its kinda far up

[iron oriole]

Oh nice

Man these fucking guys are killing it

[plain igloo]

stick top 😡

[iron oriole]

lol fair on this device. The paint job looks crazy sick

Color scheme is primo

[rich coral]

killing top placed dpads?

yeah they kill them

[iron oriole]

Good

[rich coral]

Im gonna but it anyways if its cheaper then the Unicorn

or even the same price

[muted ingot]

Oh my god, I didn’t even notice the colors. Man, the lavender works so well with that shell.

[iron oriole]

The power on this is somewhat hilarious if it is a 6 line

Though 3ds comes into play

So that makes sense

[muted ingot]

How well does the 556 handle 3DS at 2x scale?

[iron oriole]

Handles games I play at 2x, but I don’t think I play anything intensive

[rich coral]

T820 confirmed

[iron oriole]

Nice

[rich coral]

domestic price $140 confirmed too

[iron oriole]

Usd?

[muted ingot]

3x would probably be too much for vertical layout on this screen (hell, 2x is already more than what’s needed), but if it can handle 2x, that is legit gonna be uncontested as the absolute best device for 3DS.

[rich coral]

yeah 1000rmb are around 140

realistically US customers pay maybe 150

[muted ingot]

Hell, 1x would already be way better on this than most others.

[rich coral]

but get a free screen protector

[iron oriole]

Oh gotcha. Definitely gonna be niche but I imagine in this space people gonna eat it up

[muted ingot]

Ok, so they’re just going for murdering the Unicorn then?

[muted ingot]

Better performance chipset in a device made by a well established company, for a cheaper price? With the same screen that is the Unicorn’s main claim to fame?

[rich coral]

bro does not fw lao zhang

[iron oriole]

This is really fucking funny

[rich coral]

I know right

[muted ingot]

Anbernic confirmed to be the exact kind of people who would look for the only living member of a mythical species just to kill it.

[fiery stump]

Univorn? What that

Unicorn*

[lost sentinel]

lol I thought he was shooting shit again

[muted ingot]

ZPG A1 Unicorn.

[lost sentinel]

looks like he's on to something this time

[rich coral]

what lao zhang make a video called ''I created the RG Cube'' ;))

upload it on billi billi

[iron oriole]

A taki reference?

Or just in general lol

[sharp bloom]

but see this is what I don't get

[rich coral]

yes indeed

I love taki

[sharp bloom]

what do you need a t820 on a 1:1 for?

[iron oriole]

Lmao never knew the guy was a shitposter

That’s fire

[sharp bloom]

like are you really gonna be playing gc/PS2 on this

[iron oriole]

3ds

[muted ingot]

3DS.

[rich coral]

I mean if they mass order it for their whole 6 line they get reduced prices on it

[muted ingot]

And since when has “are you really gonna play PS2/GC on this screen” ever stopped people?

[rich coral]

its also easier to manage and plan your stock with it

[iron oriole]

People would definitely call gcn playable on the miyoo mini plus if they could

[muted ingot]

This as well, it’s easier to source the same chipset for multiple devices than to source multiple different chipsets for different machines.

[iron oriole]

Though I’m talking about form, as rp2s definitely has some gcn playability on a 3.5 lol

[sharp bloom]

I dunno, I'd rather take a cheap 1:1 and a good 4:3 t820

[muted ingot]

Hell, the stick on top would make this better for GC and 3DS.

[rich coral]

@lost sentinel @patent solstice but pls dont tell him

[muted ingot]

What are you gonna use a cheap 1:1 device for other than DS and vertical shooters?

[patent solstice]

How is it any better than symmetrical?

[muted ingot]

At least with the T820, they can add 3DS to the mix as well as any of the vertical games that don’t run as well on the RGB30.

[iron oriole]

Agreed, easily, and anyone else that disagrees is just wrong no contest

[sharp bloom]

basically that's it, arcade, some GB/GBC, maybe 8:7 SNES

[iron oriole]

(Jk I don’t care)

[sharp bloom]

I wouldn't know what to do with a 1:1 other than that

[iron oriole]

I mean 3ds

3ds is the next step up

That takes a lot of power

[muted ingot]

Because I don’t use the D-Pad for those games.

[patent solstice]

Ok?

[sharp bloom]

3ds sure, but I already got a surface duo lol

[iron oriole]

Yes but then you shouldn’t buy any 1:1 in any case lol

[muted ingot]

And D-Pad on bottom for a device like this makes it so that it won’t be too much trouble to use it for the games that want a D-Pad.

[sharp bloom]

is that a challenge

[iron oriole]

Buy em all

You won’t

[patent solstice]

It is tho, it makes using both worse

[iron oriole]

Never seen someone scared of a t820 till now @sharp bloom …. 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[muted ingot]

Nah, skill issue.

[sharp bloom]

it's not that, it's just that I'd rather have a proper 4:3 rg406

[iron oriole]

It would be pretty funny if anbernic decided to skip the 406 of all devices this lineup

[sharp bloom]

they could make the argument that the cube supersedes it

[plain igloo]

mame4droid

[sharp bloom]

that's my worry

[plain igloo]

if they aren't dumb they'll make a pocketable t820 with inline shoulders at some point

[patent solstice]

No, hands issue, asym joysticks are uncomfortable to use with the L buttons on anything this size, and dpad on bottom is cramped for dpad focused stuff, which is 1:1 strong suit

[plain igloo]

people want pocket ps2 and this still isn't pocket

[sick field]

Sorry just catching up on chat here, so is general consensus the 406 is a separate device then (even if not happening now)?

If so let's create a new thread I'd reckon

[muted ingot]

Games that work with top joystick work well with this (so literally all Android games and GamePass games since they use Xbox layout by default), and the whole reason why the sticks are fine on the RGB30 is because they aren’t cramped on a handheld as tall as that.

[rich coral]

It might be

But we still don’t know for sure

[sick field]

Ah ok fair! Thanks

[sharp bloom]

the consensus is we don't know but I think we should assume separate devices unless evidence of otherwise

[patent solstice]

Games that work well with joystick on top work exactly the same on the bottom, they work fine on the rgb30 because they're symmetrical

[muted ingot]

I’ve already got the RGB30, why get another device if it isn’t an objective upgrade to replace it?

[patent solstice]

Yah I'm not ditching my rgb30 for this

Well, or hotdog

[muted ingot]

And vice versa, the stick being on top does not change anything unless you just don’t like it being on top.

[patent solstice]

It's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of usability

[muted ingot]

So if you dislike it, then you’re absolutely fine to dislike it.

[muted ingot]

Try different games if you’re gonna repeat this, like 8:7 NES and 8:7 Integer overscaled SNES.

[rich coral]

Alright I’m done turning the whole trailer into a gif

[muted ingot]

Wait…Oh my god that is the whole freaking trailer!

I thought you were just spamming the same thing, I didn’t even notice.

[rich coral]

It’s a Pokémon game based on Pokémon crystal for the gbc

[muted ingot]

Yeah I know, trust me when I say the entire Gameboy modding scene noticed an MBC30 romhack that doesn’t work well with the EZ-Flash or Everdrive, but works perfectly with the MBC30 single game Flashcarts.

[rich coral]

Yeah GIPHY only allows you to do 6,5 seconds max on a gif ;((

[lavish cedar]

I just want a 406 with a 1280 x 960 4-4.5" screen, is that so much to ask for? I legitimately don't know what I'd do with a 1:1 this powerful.

[patent solstice]

I dislike being physically uncomfortable using asym devices, would have considered this or the unicorn otherwise.

Point being - for something that most are going to buy for the ability to run intensive shmups that the rgb30 can't, the d-pad should have been on top. Doesn't make sense to get one for 3ds when it's in the territory of just buying a 3ds.

[rich coral]

What is mbc30

[muted ingot]

Literally gave it a new purpose after Crystal Clear halved its size down to 2MB.

[patent solstice]

Cave shmups

[muted ingot]

The rom mapper for Japanese Crystal, which gave it the same RTC capabilities of the MBC3(used in all other pokemon gen-2 games), but with the ability to handle 4mb roms since Japanese Crystal needed that for its Mystery Gift stuff.

[rich coral]

Oh

[muted ingot]

Japanese Pokémon Crystal was literally the only game that used the MBC30 because it was the only game that needed RTC and that extra capacity stuff.

[rich coral]

Luckily I don’t use ez flash and ever drive

Also

I appreciate the info

Good to know

[muted ingot]

The Funnyplaying Flashcart actually also supports MBC30 decently well, which makes it the only flashcart you can buy prebuilt that supports Coral, alongside obviously working well with other games.

[rich coral]

u just said pokemon crystal is the only game needing it

so funnyplaying changed up zheir flash cart for a single game? :OO

[sick field]

Yeah I can dig that, ok Cube gets it's own space!

Anbernic RG406

#1237867228985294908

[oak nimbus]

Now we can just moan here about every single device Anbernic makes instead of the 406

(seems like there will be quite a few)

[plain igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-21960775

looks like 35xxSP, then cube, then probably a 28xxVM or something to murder the GKD pixel

then maybe finally 406

see you all in 4 months lol

[whole vale]

I'm sorry to be a control freak but I kinda feel like this one should be the cube channel and the new one should be the 406 channel. It doesn't matter, I know, but we did all this discussion based on a picture of a cube mockup (that some people thought might be a 406)

that's just, like, my opinion though

[oak nimbus]

And then it's going to be a 406M

[plain igloo]

406v

[keen gale]

Still hoping for a 4 inch 4:3 plastic device with sticks

[plain igloo]

yeah my ideal 406 would be just a dpad top plastic 405m (maybe a bit wider so the sticks could be inset a bit, but I want it to stay flat with inline shoulders for pocketability)

[oak nimbus]

Tbh I like the old candy bar design more than this new thing they're doing

[muted ingot]

Nah, there are actually a couple other MBC30 hacks coming out now, and the MBC30 can also handle all other games that used SRAM just fine.

So it’s basically more just them doing so because their only major competition can’t do the same.

[rich coral]

Kudos to funny playing

So what’s the price? 😅

[muted ingot]

Like, them being both cheap, as well as handling games that the multi-game flashcarts can’t handle is a great edge in their favor.

[muted ingot]

$32, but you also need a rom flasher, Funnyplaying’s Burnmaster being around $28. Keep in mind, the EZ-Flash Junior isn’t anywhere near as good as the Everdrive GB X7 despite being $45-$50, and the GB X7 is over $100.

[rich coral]

Good thing I’m on android

[muted ingot]

Yeah, if you don’t feel the need to play these hacks on hardware, better to stick with emulators.

[bright crane]

Amlogic A311D 😄

[hallow portal]

The RGB10 Max 3 Pro chip, right? Did that ever get fully sorted out?

[bright crane]

yeah, the current Rocknix runs fine on it and the OGU

[hallow portal]

Did it get Vulkan?

[bright crane]

yep

there's a vulkan branch and an opengles branch.(for what i know)

[hallow portal]

Awesome.

[bright crane]

I don't think anbernic will take a chance with either the s922x or the a311d though. too risky

[hallow portal]

I know, I'm just particular about Vulkan on Linux for the shaders, wish the cheaper stuff could use it.

[bright crane]

trimui smart pro can

[last goblet]

With sleep?

[plain igloo]

I think the last build was supposed to fix sleep but I haven’t checked - it might be the next one

[bright crane]

at this point, i'd be cool if just one company shipped an n100 handheld running a modified version of something light like BlissOS

[last goblet]

I still have my OGU

[bright crane]

just to you know... middle finger all of arm

[last goblet]

Might try tomorrow

[plain igloo]

Hrm, can’t tell from digging through the discussion on the rocknix server whether the fix one of the devs had ever got pushed to a real release

[bright crane]

ah, so it still requires a full shutdown

[plain igloo]

Dunno yet

It might’ve made it to release

But supposedly one of the devs had sleep working on it

[last goblet]

Rocknix working on the Arc makes me happy

[plain igloo]

And the 28xx!

MuOS is supposed to come to the arc sooner or later too

[supple crescent]

Murderous sodomy? Jeebus. Anbernic's design team is really getting aggressive! 😲

[fiery stump]

is this device seriously gonna use a 1:1 screen.............

[hallow portal]

No, https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1237867228985294908 will.

[merry sage]

this one is a 4:3 right?

[candid merlin]

1:1

[merry sage]

??? #1214317939163926548 message

[candid merlin]

sorry I thought I was in the https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1237867228985294908 channel

too many anbernics these days

[merry sage]

they are quite prolific lol

[quick ocean]

No more than usual for their 6's, they definitely aren't hanging about building out the XX range tho

[knotty relic]

40xx soon ™️

[unborn sierra]

tbh

wouldnt be surprised if "406" was named 40xx

[steel halo]

both could exist, depends on the chipset after all

[quick ocean]

the 6 in 406 indicates the chipset, so they wouldn't mislabel it that much

[knotty relic]

40xx with the h700 chipset

[jade hamlet]

Anbernic might have squashed the Square screen game with this one guys.

https://youtu.be/mSzjkqwnAVY?si=nKbty0KKjFHqjv0t

[plain igloo]

Worried the dpad isn’t gonna be comfy in that position

[flint gale]

What chip is the Cube?

[whole vale]

t820

same as rg556

[unborn sierra]

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1237867228985294908

[plain igloo]

For anyone not down with 1:1 them calling the 1:1 handheld the RG cube instead of the 406 means we’ll probably get at least one 4:3 t820 as well

406v sounds hilarious tbh

[sharp bloom]

I'd be down for a 406v

[merry sage]

406m imo 👀

[jade hamlet]

Most likely

[jade hamlet]

Probably, personally I think the D-pad should have been up top. I think Anbernic was trying to play it safe with the design.

One thing I'll definitely say is that this Handheld looks incredibly comfy and it's thick too. It's basically a Square Odin 2 design-wise.

[plain igloo]

yeah I'm very curious how it turns out

[unborn sierra]

or p ... iirc the originall 406 rumour said plastic

[merry sage]

I prefer metal personally 👍

[quick ocean]

406m would be a mistake really, it would push price up to nearer $200 and would generate few (if any) extra sales

Also seems unnecessary move for anbernic since they do great plastics too

[merry sage]

well that blows

I've wanted a more powerful 405m for quite a while now 😔

[unborn sierra]

yeah i am kinda waiting fot the endgame 4:3 while still pocketable

but personaly .. dont really care if metal or plastic ... or if dpad is top or bottom

[plain igloo]

what's endgame for you?

[quick ocean]

I'd quite like 406 to be plastic version of 405m, dpad top though and arc shoulders, plus the higher rez screen

[unborn sierra]

i mean endgame for specific "4:3 pocketable" niche 😄

[plain igloo]

yeah but what makes the 405m not already there?

everybody has a different line for 'endgame'

[unborn sierra]

ps2/gc

• inline shoulders

[plain igloo]

for me even a t610 would be endgame if it was 4" 960x720 and pocketable because personally I don't care about PS2/GC (I just want PSP and down) but I want a good screen, dpad top, and inline shoulders on a pocketable device

[supple crescent]

I'm a little lost at this point. If the RG406 isn't the Cube, then what exactly IS the 406?

[raven nexus]

I’m pretty sure the cube was originally the 406 before they decided to do something else with the device. Look at the button layout of the device and it looks exactly like the layout on the 405m.

[merry sage]

I'm pretty sure the cube is a 1:1 while the 406 is a 4:3

[wary kestrel]

Honestly having a few handhelds with the same chips as the 556 makes sense as Anbernic seems to be trying to standardize around common chips at the moment and then playing with form factors. We’ve had a bunch of examples of this in the xx line

[frail ermine]

thats always kind of been their strategy tbh. 552 is the only real time they've only used a chip once i think?

well that and win600

[supple crescent]

Speaking of which, I sure would like to see a 5.5" or 6" screen device with the D-pad on top. I pretty much only play PS1 and below unless it's for GotM so processing power isn't too much of a concern, I just want a D-pad focused device with a nice big screen.

An RG552 successor, if you will.

[last goblet]

If only they used a decent soc.

[frail ermine]

fr. apparently that screen was hard to source too tho? would have been nice to have that in something else

[last goblet]

That screen is so nice.why I keep mine.

[bright crane]

win600 was such an interesting gamble for anbernic. nice that its still selling decently. the blue 16gb/1tb units are down to 350 now in the final flash sale

[sweet jackal]

I just don't get dpad on bottom. Even the most hardened dpad on bottom supporters admit they mostly play indie/dpad centric games on their expensive handhelds. So like why give yourself early arthritis?

[last goblet]

Let me know when they are at 180

[jade hamlet]

NGL I asked Anbernic if their next PC Handheld would use AMD's Mendocino 7320U not only is that APU incredibly power efficient but the performance ceiling is just high enough to play through a fair amount of 2D and 3D Indie & AA games at lower TDP's. I'm still pretty pissed AYN discontinued the Loki Mini Pro. It was their best Budget SKU.

[quick ocean]

tough to see anbernic going near pc handhelds anytime soon with any cpu

[steel halo]

tell them to source the same sticks retroid and ayn use for anything that's over 60 bucks too

[plain igloo]

I'd be so much more into the cube if it had retroid/ayn sticks

I hope retroid does a 1:1

[flint gale]

Yeah if no one can source higher res 4:3 screens I'll take the 1:1s

[plain igloo]

No more 640x480 for anything worth more than $70

[bright crane]

Max is drunk on arm power. probably not gonna happen.
glad the win600 happened though. Between Batocera, BlissOS 15(android 12L), and Win10, it has a pretty huge library to pick from.

[oak nimbus]

You act as if 720x720 makes a huge difference for 4:3 games

[jade hamlet]

Yeah I've been definitely telling them that people want better Sticks. But Anbernic has been making the final Executive decisions. At the end of the day I've only been gathering peoples opinions and feedback and trying to incorporate that in my feedback with some criticisms of my own. At the end of the day Anbernic has the final word. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[bright crane]

they're not bad sticks. just hall-sensors soldered to proprietory, irreplaceable daughter boards.

we didn't get replacement batteries till this year. waiting on those 3rd party analog replacements to show up next

[tribal fog]

I am anxious to know which device ZPGA1 or RG406 will be ready for order 1st...

[jade hamlet]

I agree, but when I told Anbernic that people wanted a Streaming Handheld with the power of a Snapdragon 865 and Full Sized Controls like an Xbox Controller. We got the RG556 with the Unisoc T820 (Not bad) but STILL with Nintendo Switch Sticks.

[jade hamlet]

Most likely the Anbernic one based on their History.

[bright crane]

anbernic is bad at selecting soc's. either that or they just like ugly duckling soc's

[plain igloo]

since the 35xxSP is next the ZPG A1 unicorn might come out first as long as it launches on time

any further delays and anbernic will be either simultaneous or first

[jade hamlet]

To be fair there's only so many ARM Linux SoCs to take advantage of. Also for Android I think Anbernic might have a business relationship with Unisoc.

[tribal fog]

Thats what I think so too. But lets see...

[quick ocean]

bad in what sense, they have been picking the same ones as everyone else until recently, since then they have the h700 that basically deliver 3566 performance for 3266 money and the t820 that seems to skip many issues with the d900

[flint gale]

Yeah their only oddball soc lately was the original 35XX

[quick ocean]

That one was a little odd, it basically seemed to be chosen in a rush and ended up confusing this new naming scheme, presumably it must have been a dirt cheap option compared to say a 3326 as otherwise they might have just done a new shell for a stickless 351v

[flint gale]

My headcanon is that it was a response to Miyoo getting away with a random soc in the MM/MM+ lime

[plain igloo]

my understanding is that they went for an odd SoC on purpose with the 35xx to make it harder for GAMECONSOLE or datafrog or whatever to clone it

the h700 is also an odd SoC in that nobody used it before them and nobody else has used it since

[shut herald]

So is this cube or its own thing?

[plain igloo]

We don’t know

[quick ocean]

the expectation is that the 406 is a 4:3 device, but we can't be sure as the cube seems to have leapfrogged it

[plain igloo]

he may have overpromised with his trolling about 960x720 or 1280x960 4:3 screens and now is having trouble actually securing them for a release lmao

[uneven bobcat]

@unborn sierra

That was an accident idk what happened

My bad

Lol

[maiden dock]

Where is the 406 I need my pocketable GameCube

Watching some 405m reviews and it seems so close to greatness

[merry sage]

it is, it really is

that's why I want a 406m already lol

[daring moon]

Let's just hope that the 406 won't be metal, and that it gets a decent screen to improve over the 405M.

[merry sage]

why hope it won't be metal? I prefer metal lol

[daring moon]

Did you try a RG405M ? It's stupidly heavy... I won't buy another metal handheld.

[lavish cedar]

I want it to be metal, I'll hope it is twice as hard as you do.

[lavish cedar]

Yes, it's awesome.

[plain igloo]

For me if metal helps with thermals like it does on the rp2s I’m down for metal, if it adds cost and weight without a noticeable thermal advantage I’d rather plastic

[oak nimbus]

Hm, but metal shell helping with thermals means the device actually gets warmer to the touch, no?

[plain igloo]

Depends on the position of various things

I’m fine with it venting heat via the shell as long as the heat stays away from the parts you grip

[vestal dirge]

Seeing this post had me excited

Seeing it be another horizontal handheld made me want to smash something

[quick ocean]

ergonomics means that larger displays are going to tend to be horizontal more often than not, first rg405 was also horizontal too

[quick imp]

this looks a lot like the cube tbh

also that photo says the word cube in the image lol

[maiden dock]

There are no real photos also when this rumor started we confused it with the cube

[quick imp]

oh okay

[steel halo]

i still think this became the cube and there will be no 406

[plain igloo]

I think there will be a 406 or some other 4:3 t820 eventually but hopefully it is meaningfully different from the cube

Either something flat and pocketable to replace the 405m or a new fat gameboy to replace the 405v

[maiden dock]

I want a 405m that can do all PS2

[unborn sierra]

thing is its just that people confused two rumours together

and i am in no rush for the endgame 4:3

with cube being the next after 35xx SP ... there is probably gonna be one other weird one before 405m successort

[steel halo]

there's no rumors about anything right?

there might skip the weird one

[unborn sierra]

or could be just idont know metal version of old bestseeller one 😄

[steel halo]

hmm

metal xxh would be cool

[unborn sierra]

or 28xxV

there is tons of possibilities 😄

[steel halo]

i think if it was something so different there would be some rumor about it

[unborn sierra]

but metal shell version of something probably would cause rumoru already 🤔

[steel halo]

i keep thinking they could make something that destroys the gkd pixel

just a 2,8" metal vertical

[unborn sierra]

thats the 28xxV i mentioned 😄

[steel halo]

yeah ofc

[unborn sierra]

they could even make the design similar to the old 280v

[steel halo]

i would like it more gameboy like

[unborn sierra]

which was iirc dicontinued last year

[steel halo]

just make a hybrid between the nano and the pixel

[unborn sierra]

or just go weirder and do RG Tate witgh 9:16 screen 😄

[steel halo]

i think that's too risky even for anbernic

[unborn sierra]

or something like what powkiddy A13 was

[steel halo]

maybe if they made it a cheaper xx model off that

[unborn sierra]

or Arc Pro with stick

[steel halo]

but i doubt a t820 with vertical screen would be popular

[unborn sierra]

looking at reaction to Cube

people want the vertical shmups from early 00s

[steel halo]

that's a vocal minority i think

[unborn sierra]

and H700 is not strong enough for those

[steel halo]

although vertical 16:9 is perfect for ds too

maybe they should bring the t618 back to keep it cheaper

[unborn sierra]

hmm not sure how T618 handles those titles

not really all that versed in arcade library, let alone vertical one

[oak nimbus]

I mean, the general consensus seems to be that Chinese really like late (90s/00s) arcade stuff

Yet I think on Baidu it's not like people actually mention TATE mode shooters a lot under the Cube posts

Best case it's some fighting stuff like KoF or Soul Calibur

But they're not like "ooooh I'm gonna play the crap out of Ikaruga on this one"

So maybe this is really more of a DS machine to most

For comparison — when Arc was in the teasing phase, people were really talking about specific fighting games they wanna play on that

But I guess, when Anbernic will launch the promo videos, we'll see what kind of games they had in mind with this

[sweet jackal]

At this point, in waiting for a high res 4:3 or 3:2 screen before I get another in those aspect ratios. We are at the point where these devices can upscale all ps1 and most N64 and DC, and even some 6th gen to 720p and I want to be able to take advantage of that. I don't see the point of upgrading to another 480p 4:3 device when you have this much power.

[plain igloo]

I think anbernic is also waiting for a high res 4:3 or 3:2 screen to replace the 405m

[quick ocean]

Nah, the cube is the weird one for the t820 range, it is simply coming out 2nd rather than 3rd like the 405v

[wary kestrel]

Still personally hoping we get a 406 sooner rather than later, the cube looks cool but isn’t for me

[bright crane]

I'm a 16x9 man. makes all the 1:1 stuff cute, but by default, a big no

[jade hamlet]

I definitely wouldn't say it's on par with the RK3566 but it still is a competent Chipset.

[jade hamlet]

16:9 has too much Black Bar for me. 5:3, 3:2, and 1:1 are the perfect ratios for me.

[magic tree]

Lol what is this abomination?

[empty veldt]

They haven't even revealed it, right?

[plain igloo]

there was some confusion early between 406 and cube

we have no idea what the 406 is gonna look like now that the early drawings/renders clearly were of the cube, just have the old max zhou posts claiming 960x720 or 1280x960

there may never be a 406 if he can't get suitable quantities of an appropriate screen

[magic tree]

who is this max zhou I keep hearing about?

[plain igloo]

Main (only?) product designer for anbernic

[magic tree]

oh, interesting...

[sweet jackal]

I think 4:3 is the best aspect for a Retrohandheld device as most things are exactly that and it is also right in between the ones that are wider or narrower (GBA and GB). But it looks like all of the high res screens are either 1:1 or 8:7, and I'll take those over another 480p screen any day of the week.

1:1 is also just fun to use lately.

[flint gale]

If I ever win the lottery I'll make a large order of 4 inch 640×960 VRR OLED displays

[last goblet]

And do what with them?

[plain igloo]

I'd rather have 960x720 personally

though honestly, 1920x1440.

that would let you integer scale all the weirder stuff that 960x720 lets you (psp, gba, etc) while also letting letting you integer scale 480p systems like PS2 etc

[flint gale]

Probably just leave them in a warehouse in Miami

[last goblet]

Ok

[flint gale]

Win your own lottery

[plain igloo]

Make me

[quaint furnace]

Not impossible
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005005480553465.html

[plain igloo]

8” lol

Gimme that in a tiny laptop with a trackball for playing ms dos games

[quaint furnace]

https://youtu.be/5klIei1dAD8?feature=shared

[lavish cedar]

There's a 5.5" 2160x1440 panel out there, that would be pretty nice.

[quaint furnace]

The pocket s is also 1440p

Will be good for scaling most things

[subtle token]

Damn

Need this in my life lol

[lavish cedar]

https://www.phanteks.com/PH-HRLCD.html

Someone should be using it IMO.

[plain igloo]

99% SRGB

curious about refresh rate and response time

[subtle token]

no clue about response time

[plain igloo]

well them I'm sold

that's even better than average brightness for a handheld

[sweet jackal]

Does it matter to have integer scaling on PS2/GC since the emulator is upping the native resolution? I'm assuming the only benefit is for the menus and static 2d art in the game.

[plain igloo]

yeah, 2d assets are the only ones that really matter for integer once you get into upscaling, but a lot of games have a lot of 2d assets

some games still used sprites etc

[sweet jackal]

Maybe pre-rendered cutscenes looking cleaner too 🤔

[plain igloo]

PSP games bother me because the res of the system is so low but the games look good at 1080p upscaled... other than the HUD/SPRITES

[lost sentinel]

good thing some of the more popular PSP games have custom textures available https://forums.ppsspp.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=36

[subtle token]

this

[subtle token]

wish P3P had a complete one

a lot of it is done but the UI isn't

so you have sharp af text and blurry ui

[worn juniper]

Do they have sound packs so I don't have to hear the same j-pop song over and over in every battle in Persona 1?

[lost sentinel]

nah you're on your own for that

[eager cypress]

there actually is a hack taking out the jpop and replacing it with the original ps1 music!

[lost sentinel]

the more you know

[plain igloo]

Who is lvl00 administrator lamb fee

[crisp sun]

An official admin of the chat group

[candid merlin]

Will it be metal?

[unborn sierra]

Q4 is nice ... that means 4+ months

I should have my yolo funds rebuilt by then

But that also means there will be like 1 or 2 devices after cube before 406

[oak nimbus]

Well, makes sense not to release it right after the Cube

[rich coral]

Im gonna be so mad if this will just be a better cube, wider, better plastic, better sticks, better WiFi and so on

This better be identical to the cube and 556 except for the screen of course

Also give it bad colorways

[daring moon]

Wish for a 960x720 screen for great scaling across most emulated sytems !

[rich coral]

I have read that message like 1000 times on this server ;))

[unborn sierra]

😄

people should post it 1000 times on anbernic server too

[oak nimbus]

We just need someone else to announce a PS2-capable 4:3 handheld. Like Retroid

Then "Q4" will magically turn into "ASAP"

[crisp sun]

Max Zhou said in a post reply that the 406's design would not be a stretched RG cube

[rich coral]

It should be though

As in it would be a good design

Meanwhile the cube should’ve been the unicorn design, flat back, linear shoulder buttons

[sharp bloom]

disagree, in a world where the RG cube already exists the RG406 should focus on being as compact and pocketable as possible, which the cube is not

[rich coral]

Yeah I would’ve liked that swapped

More ergonomic design on the device where ps2 and GameCube look better

And the compact, pocketable alarmist rgb30 like design on the cube

But yes

Not the cube already exists as it is

Maybe the 406 will be similar to the 405m

[oak nimbus]

Similar to 405M seems very likely to me

Q4 hints that they're making this for the holiday season in the West, not for the domestic market (their biggest sales are in September and early November IIRC)

And based on previous posts by Max, "a handheld for the West" = metal shell (because apparently that's what resellers are telling him)

So they'd need to shave off as much stuff as they can to keep it lighter

[quick ocean]

That was always going to be the case though, I'd guess a minimum of 2 XX models and more likely 3.

[quick ocean]

Resellers should fuck right off then, fuckall point paying an extra $40 just to make a device heavier and less comfortable to hold

[oak nimbus]

Well, seems to have enough point for them to be doing that for almost five years

But yeah, I remember someone asking Max on Baidu why the hell 353M was metal, and he said "because that's what western partners are asking us"

[unborn sierra]

lol

[rich coral]

lol

[unborn sierra]

personally i dont mind either way ... i just want pocketable 4:3 capable of ps2/gc with good device to screen ratio (its pretty much one of the last two niches i am missing , the other one is full Saturn/DC capable Arc)... layouts, materials are less important for me

speaking of ... is ther any talk of possible boosted Arc on chinese socials?

[oak nimbus]

I only remember someone asking Max to make Arc with more RAM (??) early this year. He basically came in and said "well that can be arranged"

[unborn sierra]

i think we would need at least one stick to get full Saturn/DC

[oak nimbus]

I suppose there could be some multiplayer Android games people are playing on the Arc over there, that I am not aware of

[oak nimbus]

We'd need Rockchip/Unisoc to bring a new generation of chips for full Saturn (or at least pick some pretty high-end Mediatek) lol

I really want something that can just play the entire 5th generation without issues, but so far seems like you'd need Odin 2 for that

Don't even care about PS2/GC that much, it's just the stupidly demanding Saturn emulation that makes me follow higher-end devices

[unborn sierra]

tbqh i dont need beetlecore for such device ... it would be nice .. but definitely not required

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, but some games I like simply don't run otherwise or have glitches

[unborn sierra]

for example? (not that versed in saturn library)

[oak nimbus]

Assault Suit Leynos 2
Burning Rangers
IIRC Policenauts glitches out severely
Powerslave glitches out (lots of visible artifacts), though less so

And that's just my selection (so no RPG stuff and almost no heavy 3D games)

On top of that the standalone YS emulator may just crash occasionally

Not too frequently, but I just never had that issue with anything else for up to 5th gen

[quick ocean]

They do seem to have scaled back their idiotic use of metal though, just the 405m and the nano, with the latter at least having the excuse of benefiting from the strength of it. I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed away from metal in the future due to the cost of the shells being a notable fixed cost in the BoM of a device that makes it harder to recoup their costs.

[oak nimbus]

I mean, they always had just one or two metal devices per line though

[wide matrix]

OH so they ARE separate units?!

[oak nimbus]

350M and 280M
351MP
353M
Nano
405M

That's it, I guess? No metal xx (yet?)

[wide matrix]

Man I wonder if someone got an ARM dualboot solution on the same flash chip

[wide matrix]

353M is kinda sorta expensive 35XXHM

[oak nimbus]

You mean, Linux+Android?

[wide matrix]

Kinda

[oak nimbus]

I mean, no one else is using this chip

[raven nexus]

You’re getting a RP4 dock from Retroid and you’re going to like it!

[plain igloo]

They may have to go metal to cram a t820 into a 405m sized device for thermal reasons - the metal shell does help the handheld stay cooler - look at the rp2s and you’ll see the metal one actually does ps2/gc a bit better than the plastic one because it doesn’t thermal throttle as hard.

[swift dove]

Please make this 3:2

[plain igloo]

why?

it would make it better for gba/psp but worse for everything else

[swift dove]

Well imo with the hardware getting more and more capable, I would ask why 4:3? It would be worst for wide screen games. And then we would ask why 16:9? Well, it wouldn't be as pocketable as the 405M. 3:2 to me is the best compromise - I wouldn't mind stretching any console as close as possible to 3:2. I'd mind it if I were trying to stretch to 4:3 or 16:9 though.

[plain igloo]

what wide screen games though? PSP and switch are the only wide screen systems that even have android emulators and the t820 isn't good for switch

[whole vale]

3:2 is pretty great for PAR Megadrive and Saturn ackshually

[plain igloo]

PAR megadrive is 10:7 (1.43), which is only barely closer to 3:2 than it is to 4:3

[swift dove]

Yes mainly PSP and switch - a lot of indie games work on the T820. And to reiterate - stretching 16:9 to 4:3 is cursed, but to 3:2 it's not that bad

[whole vale]

Typical Saturn res varies a bit more, but this is probably the most common res

on the right ofc

[swift dove]

Also, more potential for ease of use with 3DS/DS

[unborn sierra]

Nah just gimme the one final 4:3

We have enough widescreens

And not enough a droid emulators for widescreen systems

[fair leaf]

what is this site called again

i always forget the name of it

[whole vale]

https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/

[fair leaf]

thank you

[queen igloo]

PSP, Native Android, Gamestreaming, 3DS, DS, Switch, GBA, PC emulation are the systems I can think of that would benefit from 3:2 screen

[plain igloo]

All of those but gba are things the 556 would smoke this for

Like people want the 4:3 for ps2, gc, dc…

[sharp bloom]

they need better western patterns

I've been waiting for so long for a plastic 405m

if the 406 turns out to be metal that'll be such a massive disappointment

Russ seems to have some influence on Anbernic and he's been saying for a while now that he'd like the rg405m better if it was plastic

so here's hoping

[wide matrix]

Maybe it had to be metal

Cooling and stuff

405v had a fan

[oak nimbus]

How significant is the performance difference between plastic and metal RP2S?

I'm starting to think maybe I need to stop waiting already and just get one

[sharp bloom]

I don't think there's an actual performance difference? just lower temps that help with longevity

[plain igloo]

No, the 2s throttles so anything that keeps it cooler will also make it more performant on higher end emulation

[eager cypress]

can the t820 handle all of ps2?

[plain igloo]

almost all, there are some games that simply do not play nicely with android emulators

even the odin 2 can't do 100% at locked full framerate, some games like dirge of cerberus are just too damn jank

[sonic raptor]

No. And you have to be ok with many games at 1x res.

But it can play a decent chunk at 1x and maybe some at 2x

[queen igloo]

556 is not pocketable

[swift dove]

I'm not walking around or sitting with that 😅

[rich coral]

;))

[plain igloo]

Imagine trying to drive like that

But yeah if I force it similarly I can do that with my odin 2 in my every day jeans

[humble wharf]

Need the JNCO's

[simple jackal]

all they had to do was put a t820 in a slightly bigger 405m and bam perfection, wth is that

[plain igloo]

They still might

The images claiming to be a 406 months ago wound up turning into the cube

[oak nimbus]

I'd say it's the lack of competition — 405 are arguably still the best 4:3 devices on the market (and barely anyone bothered to compete)

[supple crescent]

So at this point are we anticipating that the RG406 is basically going to be a Cube with a 4:3 screen?

[plain igloo]

I don’t think that would make sense

To justify the cube and a 406 both existing they’d have to be different shapes I think - hopefully a flat pocketable candybar for the 406

[oak nimbus]

Also who knows what they'll have to do next year, the benefit from a stronger chip won't be generational, especially for the 4:3

[plain igloo]

Clamshell 406

[rich coral]

Ergonomic cube but flat 406 would be so fu ked though

[oak nimbus]

We need to get Lhao Zhang to design a fake 4:3 handheld, then put up a preorders page that will be sold out even before it goes live

[rich coral]

Like it should have been the other way around

[plain igloo]

Disagree tbh

The taller screen means the cube is inherently less pocketable than the same handheld but with a 4:3

[supple crescent]

I kinda love the design of the Cube, I just wish it had a 4:3 screen since black bars on the top and bottom for 4:3 content drives me kinda bonkers lol

[rich coral]

You know what I need to see people pocket the unicorn then I’ll decide wether I agree or not

[oak nimbus]

Same. I was strongly trying to warm up to 1:1, but seeing the games run on it killed that instantly lol

[plain igloo]

I would call the RGB30 “barely pocketable” so I don’t see how you could ever use that screen and have it be pocketable without being just as bad as the RGB30 on ergo

[rich coral]

But Russ really like the grip on the cube, should be necessary on a GameCube machine when u wanna comfortably use analog triggers and sticks at the same time

[rich coral]

Yeah it’s really borderline pocketability-wise

[supple crescent]

It looks great for square'ish games like Game Boy / Color and Neo Geo Pocket / Color, but having the analog stick on top really isn't suited to those systems. I'm pretty sure Anbernic envisioned the Cube as a 3DS machine though, thus the top analog stick.

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, it's definitely a 3DS machine, but that just looks janky to me

Dunno how to explain it, but it just feels like the second screen shouldn't be put right next to the game area

Like one screen is where this whole world of wonder is being rendered, and the other one has the map/stats/extra controls/whatever, to me they look weird crammed together

(except for those games that use both to render the game, but I dunno how many of those are there on 3DS)

[quick ocean]

You could probably make an argument that the error is in not putting the right stick up top too, have it balanced around centred dpad and buttons instead

[rich coral]

I’d play so much ds on this

[oak nimbus]

How is that not worse for everyone though? Well, except for people who just don't need the right stick

Well, okay, I could see this work if you just don't need the sticks at all, but that's a weird approach

[rich coral]

Yeah dpad on top might be better for lower end devices

Maybe someone will release a 1:1 T618 device at a cheaper price point

[rich coral]

But at least both the dpad and stick seem to be comfortable thanks to the grip on the back (according to Russ that is)

Just like he said

It really is a jack of all trades but a master of none

[fair leaf]

they dont make the T618 anymore i believe

[rich coral]

What about the T610

[fair leaf]

that not a clue

[rich coral]

Pretty sure it’s newer

DS / Gameboy machine would be neat

[unborn sierra]

clamshell cube

[rich coral]

It will be build like this :

Thick enough for ETA to put a a heatsink inside

[wary kestrel]

Honestly 406 and RPFlip2 are two things I really want.

[sweet jackal]

I hope the RG406V comes after the RG cube. RPFlip2 would be awesome though

[cedar cloud]

Flip 2 should be around the corner, retroid needs to keep up and the SP is selling really well it seems

[plain igloo]

What would you want to see on a 406v other than just an SoC update?

I love my 405v but they’d have to do more than a spec bump to sell me on an upgrade, especially if that means giving up gamma lite and going back to stock anbernic android

960x720 and better controls would be enough to sell me on it tbh

[wary kestrel]

Better screen and joysticks?

[plain igloo]

At this point we’ll get worse joysticks but with RGB lmao

The best 406v would be one made by retroid if anbernic can’t fix their sticks

[quick ocean]

the best 406 wouldn't be a v at all

[plain igloo]

they could do both

I actually really like the 405v form factor, it's comfy and the battery is huge

[quick ocean]

I think the cube killed any chance of a V unless they are aiming to get more than a year out of the t820, which might be possible.

[plain igloo]

you could also say it killed any chance of an M/P :p

honestly I think a horizontal 406 makes a lot of sense if they can make it as pocketable as the 405m, if they can't then it would be kinda pointless compared to the cube and they may as well make a 406v instead

or they could make 4 t820 devices instead of 3, or they could make no 406 at all and make a 556SP clamshell instead thanks to the success of the 35xxSP

they have 6 months left in the year and they're running out of possible XX form factors lmao

metal 28xxV to kill the gkd pixel, maybe a XXTATE with a 3:4 portrait screen for shmups (seems pretty dang niche...), XXsq (square screen 1:1 stickless vertical that looks like an analog pocket?)

feels like they'll have a hard time sticking to 1 handheld release per month without going to an XX7, getting back into x86, making more than 3 t820 devices, or getting REAL WEIRD with the XX line.

[raven nexus]

35xxDS

[plain igloo]

unfortunately I can't see them getting a good single screen DS handheld let alone a dual screen one without android

if they wanna get freaky they can start here though

you could fit a 5" 3:4 in a shell the size of a 2ds slab and have your top and bottom 3ds screens as wide as original hardware

plus imagine a 5" portrait screen for a shmup handheld 😉

[fluid geyser]

I hope they keep the metal amf the shape but add detachable thumb caps like retroid so we can add custom sticks. Also at least a d1100 even though it'll obviously be a t820

[oak nimbus]

They actually showed that for Cube, maybe that's why

[oak nimbus]

Came across this yesterday — someone did a showcase of 100 Saturn games run using standalone Yaba Sanshiro on the 556

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6XTQj9Y1OY

I still maintain perfect Saturn emulation is not a thing without Beetle, but being able to run everything YS can run without a frameskip is definitely no small feat. T618 wasn't able do that for every game

There's not a lot of Beetle demos on 556, but there's at least one for a somewhat major game that YS can't run at all — Burning Rangers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQW8sipT-M8&t=6482s

This is where T820 doesn't cut it, unfortunately

He also runs Bug! with Beetle and that one is fine though (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQW8sipT-M8&t=6482s)

Phawx also showcased Dragon Force 2 as a game that reportedly can't run under YS, and it ran fine with Beetle https://youtu.be/2R12PTbI31g?si=F18_hr9BMy55BUBb&t=416

So maybe a lot of 2D games will be fine

I also found out yesterday, that apparently the Beetle core in RetroArch is using only the stable releases of Mednafen, which means they haven't had any updates for two and a half years. Mednafen had a stable release in April, so maybe once RA merges that, things might become a bit better

(https://github.com/libretro/beetle-saturn-libretro/issues/29)

(all of this is a roundabout way of saying if we're not getting a 406 for six months I'd really like an updated Arc please thanks)

[wide matrix]

What is the minimum hardware that can actually handle beetle saturn?

for reference

[oak nimbus]

I haven't seen anyone do proper tests for that. For me it seems like my Intel N100 is the minimum (in max TDP mode) — it runs everything full speed, but has next to 0 headroom for fast forward

Like you get maybe 70FPS instead of 60 if you try to FF

Russ recommended Odin 2 for Saturn stuff in one of his videos, I think 8gen2 is actually around 50% stronger in single thread than N100 and twice as fast in multi-thread performance (don't know if you can compare ARM and x86 using Geekbench scores)

[sweet jackal]

Well the only Anbernic vertical I own is the 35xx. But as you mentioned, I too am interested in a higher res screen as the biggest selling point.

[molten trail]

This could be a fake image. But found on reddit

[ripe oyster]

I think the blinding green color may b an indication it's fake

[plain igloo]

I would buy that colour though

[ripe oyster]

I mean I would too

[plain igloo]

but yeah that's a barely photoshopped 405m

[unborn sierra]

yup

[plain igloo]

no good green handhelds afaict

[unborn sierra]

i own green 🐸

but thats kinda the meme handheld for few bunchs i let kids play on

[worn juniper]

?

[whole vale]

yeah I was thinking that one is good. Not great though, a bit too mint green for my tastes rather than psycho neon green

[plain igloo]

oh yeah that one is good

[cedar cloud]

I'd buy the 406 if it is P and not M

[plain igloo]

I just never jumped on the 2s because I own too many 480p screens already

(MM+, 353VS, 405v, 28xx, 35xxSP...)

[cedar cloud]

I understand why some people like metal handhelds but personally...I ditched the 405m because it's metal and I like plastic lol

[sullen zealot]

All i need is a rg405 with a screen that does not sucks

[cedar cloud]

I didn't think the 405m screen was terrible, but mainly because it's a small screen. I'm not trying to watch 4k movies on that thing lol

[plain igloo]

yeah I'm fine with my 405v screen but I would want an improvement to upgrade personally

if they did a pocketable plastic 405m but with 960x720 or something I'm very down

[cedar cloud]

Oh if they released a new iteration I'd want a newer screen but I was fine with the screen that one had at the time

Being an rpg player I don't even need super high power chip. I guess it's one of the benefits of liking rpgs lol

[lavish cedar]

1280x960 wth the joystick on top, metal of course, that's the ideal

[plain igloo]

960x720 dpad top plastic, final offer

I ain't buying anything stick top from anbernic until they make better sticks

[wide matrix]

No chance this is real. They WILL put the left stick above the D-pad

[oak nimbus]

I call bullshit. No way Anbernic makes both (but huge if true)

Oh, and yeah dpad top seems unimaginable to them for a powerful device

[sharp bloom]

As a rule of thumb, if you found it on reddit before it's on discord, it's fake

[molten trail]

Yeah most likely, but now i want that green 😬

https://tenor.com/view/greenistheway-greensquadron-xwing-gif-21626768

[oak nimbus]

I‘d prefer black (or very dark grey) buttons, but also like the color

[raven nexus]

It’s be the funniest thing ever if Anbernic started exclusively “leaking” their new devices on Reddit. No one would believe them until the actual reveal

[oak nimbus]

Well, kinda what happened with the Arc

[molten trail]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[oak nimbus]

Who knows about the sticks, but a Genesis-based shape was considered

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1166766022464917574/1166796960779481240/725a3f5494eef01fd57cc5f1a6fe9925bd317df5.png?ex=66649ad9&is=66634959&hm=3d41dc9313e6ae982fce0bf4669dd20de5288791db079e4553215ac36198ebd9&

Well, not like the big 6, but still

[lavish cedar]

Why do you want a worse screen?

[plain igloo]

Scales handheld systems better (gba, psp, gameboy)

But yeah either one would be fine

[vestal dirge]

Noooo why can't I just have a GameCube compatible vertical handheld 😭 anbernic why do you hate me

[whole vale]

Nice, I was looking for this pic.

[lavish cedar]

Well if it's going to be capable of ps2/gc I'd rather it integer scale those but I get it, that wouldn't be bad either

[sweet jackal]

This. They make big and high quality dpads that are a pleasure to use but then they put the $2 AliExpress Switch replacement sticks as the primary control! Why?!?

[cedar cloud]

How they configure the sticks is an issue too, replace their shit sticks with hall sticks and there's still snapping all over

[wide matrix]

Don't use the OG Genesis 3-button bulky bottom and we're gold

I'd still stand by Neo-Geo gamepad/Pocket sticks

[wide matrix]

Their sticks might even drift so I won't take stick top, stick bottom, stick back - I won't take sticks at all

[plain igloo]

They’re using hall sticks

Just extremely poorly implemented hall sticks

(In the android devices)

[wide matrix]

History has shown that hall sticks STILL drift
Like how LFP batteries and solid state batteries will still self combust
How optical mouse didn't eliminate the grime-infested movement nightmare of the ball mouse

This message is brought to you by the certified Devil's Advocate (reg. U.S. pat. off.)

(Arguably now that we have small mousepads, if they can make them concave and round, sticks should just go the way of dodo birds)

(Actually why not just make a super powerful handheld without analog sticks...)

(Imagine, Doom Eternal, on a handheld, with one navigational pad. This should be the norm. Reject modernity - analog sticks, embrace tradition - Sanwa sticks)

[plain igloo]

Top left: neogeo style clicky stick. Bottom left: vita style dpad. Top right: ABCXYZ buttons. Bottom right: sega dpad.

Or even just three sega dpads

[lavish cedar]

You mean touch pads?

[plain igloo]

Or two sega dpads instead of sticks and one vita dpad

[wide matrix]

Isn't the PS2 d-pad pressure sensitive?

[plain igloo]

How did they do the pressure sensitive buttons anyway? Force sensing resistors?

Now I’m thinking dual sega dpads would actually be a great control scheme for boomer shooters

[wide matrix]

Tieba comments paraphrasing QQ chatrooms I don't have access to say...

RG406 for Q4 release
T820 SOC
4" 960x720 display
L/R analog riggers
No grip bump

RUMOR, ABSOLUTELY TAKE WITH A GRAIN OF SALTS OF THE EARTH

[swift dove]

Ala RP2S

[wide matrix]

Bigger

GBA 4x integer scale

Might just be the perfect thing for me if I'm certain I'll only stream PC games and not use an actual PC handheld anymore

[quick fiber]

4"960×720 is it good thing

[plain igloo]

960x720 would be 🐐

analog triggers and 556 sticks might make it not pocketable though

[rich coral]

960x720 doesn’t exist

[plain igloo]

(and if the sticks aren't improved from the 556/cube that's a huge point against)

[rich coral]

Has to be a lie

[wide matrix]

So, again, grain of salt

[oak nimbus]

Well, not the first time they've mentioned that resolution

[lavish cedar]

I understand the appeal for other handhelds but how does PS2/GC look at 1.5x?

[wide matrix]

I'm actually inclined to believe the 406 is just the Cube, period

[oak nimbus]

I think it's actually the other way around. Non-integer scaling is useless for 2D games, but okay for 3D stuff

[rich coral]

I need this though

[lavish cedar]

That's true since the emulator can render at whatever resolution, but I'm speaking mostly about UI elements and such.

I meant the appeal of this screen for other handhelds.

[plain igloo]

yeah integer is better than not for any system but its less important for 3d

[rich coral]

405m sold to well to not release a 406

[plain igloo]

they need to fix their software or find a way for gamma to do his magic though

[lavish cedar]

Metal and stick top though

That's what sold

[plain igloo]

dpad top is king

[rich coral]

Nr. 2 won’t happen

T820 locked down

And anbernic won’t give gamma sht

[lavish cedar]

I don't understand why they don't

It's the easiest excuse to drop support

People seem to give them a pass whenever CFW are in play and they just make money from hardware sales.

[rich coral]

There’s a good shot it’s not the cube

[oak nimbus]

Nah, it's this

[rich coral]

It’s possible

There’s been too much information and releases for my little mind to keep track of

I said -30 💀

10-12 sounds good

[wide matrix]

what

[rich coral]

I just switched up this

[rich coral]

With some else

[wide matrix]

Yes, my method of... "flooding"... (the market in this context)

[plain igloo]

so far they're on track for 12

we're in the sixth month and they've done six releases including the cube

[oak nimbus]

Well, my conversation with their support about a replacement shell for the Arc ended in them saying "well, we can sell you this, but we're out of stock until the end of the month"

Which the wishful part of me turned into "oooh, are they gonna make an Arc replacement next"

And the non-wishful part of me, of course, interpreted as "they're out of stock for this particular part right now"

But the screen issues with the Cube are really bothering me. Feels like they're getting worse at this, not better

[quick fiber]

I forgot I send this 😭😭

[plain igloo]

The sooner we ditch switch sticks and LCDs on all 100+ dollar devices the better

[fair leaf]

switch 2 sticks

thats gonna be the next upgrade

[plain igloo]

I bet they’ll be even worse lmao

[cedar cloud]

This should be released next week. Anbernic doesn't like taking time off. 😅 Skipping the cube but I'll be all over a 406p. 405. Was so close to perfect

[plain igloo]

This is supposed to be q4, they’re doing another 4-6 devices this year, my guesses are this, either a 406v or 556SP, and a few more XX devices in between the t820 releases

[rich coral]

40XX Cube pls

[fair leaf]

40XX Cube SP

real gaming

[sweet jackal]

My favorite N64 game is paper Mario (master quest ROM hack specifically) and non integer upscaling make it look way better despite the game using a ton of 2D assets. Any upscaling on any 3D game is a positive to me.

[plain igloo]

does it actually use real 2d assets or are those flat characters sprites that are being shown at various distances etc to a 3d camera?

[sweet jackal]

I agree, the official "teaser" of whatever their next device is is coming in a few weeks.

[plain igloo]

yeah they aren't using 2d assets, they're using flat 3d models

[sweet jackal]

Yes. I think. Maybe. Idk lol

[plain igloo]

so yeah integer scaling wouldn't help but upscaling would

its not like you're dealing with 2d sprites that are always shown at the correct size relative to their resolution

they're already being non-integer scaled by the camera

[lavish cedar]

Yeah

Integer scaling in 3d gens is usually relevant for UI elements only, and the odd 2D game

[plain igloo]

which is why 960x720 would be amazing - it integer scales all the big 2d systems

[sonic raptor]

An rg406 interests me much more than the cube. I don’t play many 1:1 games

Make it a clamshell and then I’d really be interested

[lavish cedar]

Also this 960x720 would actually have integer scaling for N64 so you're covered there.

[plain igloo]

I wouldn't count on anything actually having integer scaling for n64, it's one of those systems that changes res willy nilly a lot

[lavish cedar]

Oh

To be fair there's quite a few of those

Anyway, 720p in a 4" is still decent density

[lost sentinel]

looking forward to seeing what else they got lined up

[wide matrix]

The weird phase of game consoles having many rendering resolution options and thus just as many display resolution options.

One good thing of modern gaming is them managing to disconnect these two things to work nicely with more rigid display standards

[zealous lake]

isn't this the rg cube?

[sick field]

I would be ok with that

[quick ocean]

The idea that adding extra weight and an extra $40 to the price being why it sold seems like quite a leap when talking about the 405m

[lavish cedar]

I mean, that's literally what was available and it was popular. You could argue that a hypothetical plastic version would sell better, and maybe you're right, but it's a fact that the RG405M as is, metal and all, sold well.

[quick ocean]

The idea that it sold due to the metal is the unproven part, something closer in price to the 405v coming out 6 months earlier like the 405m did could easily have sold even better

[lavish cedar]

Yeah that's certainly a theory

[oak nimbus]

I mean, Anbernic certainly could've tested that during those couple years when they would sell the same device in a plastic and metal version

Either it didn't, or (more likely) their margin was way better on the metal

[quick ocean]

The combination of t618 and 4:3 in a compact model was probably the real selling points

The near complete absence of metal outside of the nano probably says more about how much of a selling point it is

[plain igloo]

The only real good judge of metal shell sales would be retroid since they did both metal and plastic but otherwise identical models

[lavish cedar]

I guess we can only speculate as to why they never made a plastic version of such a popular device

[plain igloo]

My wild speculation is thermals

Metal shell sheds heat better

[quick ocean]

My specualtion would be that they had a stockpile of metal shells and didn't want to get stuck with them

Also, offering something like the 405v where people might doubledip on a chipset was probably a better option for them too

[lavish cedar]

So it would be more of a gamble to not do that again, if that was the case

[quick ocean]

It's probably what they are trying with the cube, that is very distinct from the 556 after all

[unborn sierra]

we need metal 405v

[sweet jackal]

Hear me out... 406PM

[rich coral]

Pro Metall?

[sweet jackal]

I meant the SNES style "P" from 353P lol

[rich coral]

Nah I’m not gonna hear you out

[sweet jackal]

Please listen

[rich coral]

Wait you might be onto something

I was thinking about their 351MP or Metall Pro

[sweet jackal]

Yeah the 353p had such big bezels they might be able to get the 4" in there if it is bezeless

Just dreaming though

[sweet jackal]

That would be a lot of power in that thing lol

[rich coral]

I’d be down

As long as they don’t over do it and make it too big like the arc

[raven nexus]

Don’t listen to the haters, be like Arthur from Ayaneo and blaze your own path of confusing design choices

[sweet jackal]

You mean like putting the strongest android CPU in the world in a Gameboy DMG style case with a 3.9" screen? Seems sensible to me.

[raven nexus]

That’s the spirit!

[oak nimbus]

It's not like P was much smaller than the Arc though

The horns, yeah, but overall footprint is kinda similar

[rich coral]

That’s the difference between pocketable and portable though

That little bit difference goes a long way

[oak nimbus]

Another ones bites the dust at the behest of the cargo pants lobby

(okay, who am I kidding, I'm not carrying my Miyoo in my pockets either, the phone's enough already)

[zealous lake]

shit I carried around my vita and 35xx+ in my pockets

they felt very pocketable to me

the triggers got a little annyoing on the 35xx, I imagine the miyoo mini was a lot better in that category

[rich coral]

I got my phone keys and wallet already in there

But something being pocketable enough to disappear in my jackets pocket without me realizing is lovely

[plain igloo]

I am fine with pocketing large devices in most of my pants as long as they’re flat

It’s the shoulder shelf or non-recessed sticks that always kill devices on that front for me

[rich coral]

So trim ui smart pro would be the biggest thing you would wanna pocket

[wary kestrel]

I carried around a trimui smart for like a year, had my keys, pocketknife, and earbuds in one pocket, then the smart in the other and it worked good.
Recently I have switched to carrying around my rgsp because it is a bit bigger, and can play more systems, has a headphone jack, and more buttons.
The ideal would be that I live somewhwere where I can wear a jacket year round (currently 90 degrees F here with like 80% humidity) but thats probably not gonna happen.

[sweet jackal]

It feels substantially smaller than the Arc when I hold it. The P being flat also helps in that regard. I still think the 353P is the most comfy retro handheld. The only downside is that the face buttons should have been way bigger but Anbernic didn't want to make custom sized buttons and membranes for it.

[plain igloo]

yeah, I currently will pocket the rgb10max3pro which I think is very similar in size

the max3proandknuckles might be a hair thinner but doesn't have rounded off corners

[wide matrix]

The 353P's screen BEZEL is exactly 4 inch in diagonal

[plain igloo]

I’d love a stickless 40xx styled after the 353p with the bigger screen and bigger buttons tbh

They could just straight up use snes controller buttons

[fair leaf]

question
why would this be called the 406 and not something else?

[wide matrix]

No super edge case features like ARC's Saturn pad or Cube's square display or Nano's tiny body

[wide matrix]

I'm down for a 55xx

No sticks, but analog triggers

[sweet jackal]

Even datafrog does that lol. Cheap 3rd party incorrectly colored SNES buttons, but still the standard SNES sizing

[plain igloo]

Yeah as soon as I found out the 8bitdo sn30 does that I ordered proper US snes concave/convex buttons off Aliexpress

[quick ocean]

If there's no particular reason why they'd give it a name, they don't tend to do so, look at all the ones in the last 18 months or so with a name, the nano, arc and cube, they are all out of the ordinary for anbernic due to size, display or whatever

Assuming they don't suddenly find a 4.5" display or something, the cube probably got a name to ensure the naming scheme of 406 could be kept free since in theory both a 4" 1:1 6th gen and 4" 4:3 6th gen would technically get called a 406 with the way anbernic names them

[last goblet]

This is like the longest "rumored" anbernic handheld

[whole vale]

the 506 felt like it it was in rumor_mill purgatory for ages before it became the 556.

[lavish cedar]

They should just make the 806

Or the 1306

[sonic raptor]

We're sure the 406 wasn't just the cube?

[plain igloo]

supposedly we're gonna get both, but I assume the 406 will not look like the cube/556

either flat and pocketable like the 405m or a vertical like the 405v would be my guesses

[unborn sierra]

how about 406 sp

[plain igloo]

Honestly just give me a 556SP with dat amoled

Better controls pls though

[last goblet]

Give me the flip 2 like that.

[plain igloo]

Retroid flip 2 with the 556 OLED would smash

I don’t think I would need anything else…

[last goblet]

I just want the sliders not so much in the middle.

[cedar cloud]

Wouldn't sliders towards the outsides be harder to use?

[last goblet]

just move a little. I don't like where they are on the flip. I find the placement on the 3ds fine.

[cedar cloud]

Ah, I loved where they were on the flip, but I guess hands too big or too small for that spot makes it suck

To me they were in the perfect spot

I just want those sliders on a device that isn't a clam, perfect pocket device

[rich coral]

750p iPhone replacement screen

Leave it or take it

[plain igloo]

If it has green tint on boot and pink ghosting leave it

I’d it works as well as it did on the 3+ take it I guess

But I won’t be happy about it

-sent from my iPhone 7

[rich coral]

Didn’t Joey say they put a better screen in later rp4s

But that’s nothing confirmed

Just his feeling

[plain igloo]

We’ll see (if they use that screen again)

[quick ocean]

The display retroid were using was a 3rd party replacement one anyway, so they probably just found a different supplier of it that happens to be a better one

[rich coral]

Exactly

[last goblet]

With anbernic’s newest handheld video. Do we still believe this is happening

[dim comet]

It’s anbernic. They aren’t gonna do just ONE device

[unborn sierra]

yes given how many randimass SKUs they have with H700

they will totally do multiple ones with T820 too

[iron oriole]

Yeah no way they release just two t820s

The chip is too solid

People are willing to pay what they are asking

[plain igloo]

they are gonna do 12 skus this year, the 40xx makes 7

I think given they're gonna do like 5 more skus before the year is over one of them is gonna be a 4:3 t820

[unborn sierra]

And probably h700 1:1 too

[solid walrus]

At this rate, I don't think anything you all predict will come true. They just spin a wheel full of crazy ideas and go.

They probably take 2 handhelds and split them up and combine random parts.

[steel halo]

our suppositions are basically based on their parts, so we're basically doing the same

[unborn sierra]

gimme RG Tate

[quick fiber]

T820 clamshell

[plain igloo]

I would unironically smash that buy button so fast

[sonic lynx]

They won't upgrade the terrible analog sticks as long as people keep buying the handhelds that use them

[quick fiber]

We got them change analog triggers on the shoulders I think we can change them to better analog sticks

[quick ocean]

I reckon they do the rg406 in october or November and then round out the year with a 1:1 XX

[plain igloo]

What are the other 3 xx devices gonna be tho

[quick ocean]

I think we get a 28XX V, not sure what others

[oak nimbus]

Gonna be kinda boring if they just do H700 and T820 all year

[quick ocean]

would be a shock if that wasn't what they did, why make things more complex for themselves

[whole vale]

I'm all in favor of them spamming the T820 personally. Give me that Arc+ with one.

[oak nimbus]

Oh, they'll totally do that, but it doesn't make it less boring

[steel halo]

both are good enough to cover the whole budget and mid tier markets, so i don't see much point in having more

[ember vortex]

Boring but good for CFW

[steel halo]

maybe 3588 for a linux mid tier option

[quick ocean]

3588 would probably end up same price as t820 for them at best anyway

[oak nimbus]

I mean, yeah, on Linux side you have the CFW argument, but on the Android side — not so much

And it's not like T820 is an endgame chip, tbh

Arc+ kinda needs whatever chip will be in RP5 (yeah, that's not happening, but still)

Like T820 is close, D1100 is even closer, but the next one will be endgame for it as you should be getting proper Saturn at that point

Unless some magic happens with the Beetle core, of course, it does seem to slowly get a bit more efficient with time

[rich coral]

Anbernic don’t care if you bored

They listen to people’s wallets

Not their opinion

[oak nimbus]

Oh, my wallet is bored too, don't worry

[rich coral]

Well well

[oak nimbus]

I mean, if we're being pedantic about it, none of this conversation matters, as their customer base is largely outside of Discord (or English-speaking parts of the internet, for that matter)

[rich coral]

Exactly

Feels like they get most sales from resellers

They are like super disconnected

When they were asked about why they used metal for some shells

The said the western market likes them

Like who told you that anbernic?

You’re resellers? 🤔

[oak nimbus]

An Excel spreadsheet, I would assume

[oak nimbus]

You've said it yourself 🙂

[rich coral]

Yeah they got it comfortable rn

Having others do their software too 🙈

[steel halo]

i just wish the h700 didn't have the delayed boot

otherwise, it's an awesome chip

[quick ocean]

Cynically, the resellers know that metal shells will sell some devices and they sell from ultiple brands so have no need to worry about maximising sales from any single one

[rich coral]

Overall I’m pretty satisfied with the amount of variety we have though

A good amount of complaints here are nitpicks

It’s a niche hobby / market after all

[steel halo]

yep

in 2020 it was much worse

like the top dogs were the 351p and the retroid pocket 2+

[oak nimbus]

I mean, 351p was miles ahead of Dingoo, and people were still annoyed when the 15th RK3326 device hit the market 😄

[steel halo]

yeah, but i can't say much about that era

my first was a 351p

and yeah, the 3326 got long in the tooth, especially cause they were never that cheap

[rich coral]

Didn’t that thing have better face buttons then any xx device?

Why did anbernic decide to shrink them 😔

[steel halo]

they were terrible imo

good size but felt cheap, and they were super hard to press

between that and battery issues, i couldn't wait to get rid of it

anbernic buttons are so much better now

[rich coral]

So they were only bigger

But not better

[steel halo]

much worse

[rich coral]

Wonder if it’s the same with 405m

[steel halo]

they were exhausting to play on

[rich coral]

Haha

Sry to reawake your trauma

Lmao

My bad

[oak nimbus]

Huh, my first were 351V and MP, don't remember them having buttons issues

[steel halo]

all good, i'm happy we have better stuff now

[oak nimbus]

Shoulder buttons were crappy on my V though

[steel halo]

the 351v had much better buttons, easy to press and plush

[rich coral]

They tried really hard with the 351v huh

[steel halo]

it was a really quality one

[rich coral]

I wanna say it was their first wood grain release too

[steel halo]

although now you look at it and it looks cheap and dated

little by little the standards have improved a lot

[rich coral]

And you probably can get the plus and h for sub $45 too

[steel halo]

yeah, these weren't that cheap to buy

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, the value is crazy on these

[steel halo]

i paid 140€ for the 351v on amazon but that's cause i was dumb and didn't wanna deal with aliexpress shipping

[oak nimbus]

I mean, of course it's awesome for someone looking to buy their first handheld, that's just a different perspective

[steel halo]

i think everyone can get value out of the h700s

they're so cheap and versatile

[rich coral]

Nowadays we all fw cutesliving and anbernic direct store

[steel halo]

man i saw a 556 on cutesliving for 114€ the other day, i almost pressed buy

that value really is sick

[rich coral]

Just stay away from that one

[rich coral]

Yeah rp4p was also like $164

[rich coral]

Wait 114€

Oof

Should’ve tagged me 🙈

[steel halo]

well, between coupons and coins and stuff

i think the actual price was around 134

and only for the transparent blue

[muted ingot]

Imagine they completely ditch the regular 406 idea after the 40XX and go for an RG406 SP instead.
Just to capitalize on the 35XX SP’s success.

[unborn sierra]

Why not both

This is anvernic

[wide matrix]

I'd so like to see them do a RG408 N97 version instead

[oak nimbus]

We need a sticker that says "Intel N series chips actually draw a lot more than 5W"

Like a 4 inch device with N97 would likely have terrible battery life and probably throttle hard

[wide matrix]

I'm not saying N97 Celeron

I'm refering to THIS N97

Some folks are clamoring for PSP Go handheld, so I hope they take one step further